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Does being RedPill attracts deceiving people?

ForeverInYou
July 25, 2020
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I'm know I'm hamstering, but I want some light in this issue.

I'm trying to get with many girls as possible to take my own conclusions, but so far with my little experience, I'm being able to attract more damaged girls. Ex GF since the day I met was lying about how of a saint she were. I believed in the words (not the behavior) and at the end of the relationship I discovered she was a total whore before me (she was also a prostitute some months before). Also discovered some lies that she told me to make me not want to break up with her ("I don't delete whatsapp convos", later found out she deleted an ex hookup comment on her picture and her response with loving emojis).

Thing is, she did everything "right". Most of the times she initiated sex, she always prioritized me, she cooked for me if it would make me happy, she demonstrated mate guarding hugging me at parties, she suggested relationship status, had lots of pictures with me on her insta, even her profile picture on Whatsapp, didn't had or ignored orbiters (except that one case I discovered the deleted convo with her ex hookup), and so much more.

For me it seems that I was the perfect alpha in her mind, but the lies also suggest that I was SO good to her that she wanted me so much that she would deceive me in order to gain my commitment. I made very specific comments about how I liked honesty on her behalf, and even then, she lied to her "alpha".

Is this true to all girls? The ones that like to please you SO MUCH will also lie to keep you? The only way of knowing is analyzing behavior?

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Title Does being RedPill attracts deceiving people?
Author ForeverInYou
Upvotes 17
Comments 30
Date July 25, 2020 1:06 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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Comments

[–]2SirKolbath28 points29 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Women and little kids lie. Men value integrity. I've written about this before.

It is conceivable that she was lying out of fear of losing you. However, if you are:

I’m being able to attract more damaged girls.

... I would say the issue lies in your vetting process.

The only way of knowing is analyzing behavior?

The only thing you should be analyzing is her behavior. Her words mean nothing. A woman will tell a man she's been married to for twenty years how much she loves him on Monday and that she wants a divorce on Wednesday because she's "not happy." Analyze her behavior constantly. Give or remove attention to calibrate it to the behavior you want. Do not change your own behavior for her!

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I definitely not mastered enough game. I'm usually very 'redpilled' when gaming, so the only girls that stick around are the ones that don't mind being treated with too much indifference.

[–][deleted]  (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]ForeverInYou[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I really did that to most of the extent, but I guess maybe she did a cold read like the other guy said, since from the very start I was being the most player I could be. This is also why I think I only attracted 'bad' girls, I'm not calibrated enough.

This is why you have to come across as a non judgmental

But yeah I'll keep in mind this

She's not even reaching the wall, was just somewhat desperate I think.

[–]aFida951 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The wall isn't when you reach the 30's for all women. Many of them smarten up by their mid 20's and start looking for Alpha fucks to settle down with

I guess maybe she did a cold read like the other guy said

Yeah women are masters at this, that's how they survive. This shit happens to me too, I've had women telling me about threesomes and shit one day and literally flip the script the next day saying they don't go to bars because they're not hoes(her exact words). Saying all that, women are emotional and there's only this much you can control, on to the next is our motto to deal with this.

Also are you really well to do? That could also be one of the reason

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, her wall is definitely inside her head.

Also are you really well to do? That could also be one of the reason

Sorry, didn't understand the question mate.

If you're asking if I was well with life at the time, well, I was. I thought everything was paying off you know, got a "RP" girl, beautiful, loyal, don't fuck around, etc

[–]skyrunner2214 points15 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

She played the game well! Thats where the name "game" comes from. Its mainly from pimp/ho culture from back in the day. A good ho would run game on a trick and make him feel like he was the only one. She wouldnt even tell him she had a pimp but pimp would be in her ear to see how much money they could get up out of a trick.

Alot of that stuff has been lost but a girl running good game is supposed to be a mirror, its like poker. She finds out what you like and just give a reflection to get what she wants. Old school players used to do the same, hence running game. In Pick up parlance I guess that would fall under cold reading.

Oh and yes I think one of your questions is does game work better on dawg ass hoes. Yea its a short term mating strategy to attract a certain type of women more than others. Only thing is majority of society is full of those types now.

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

She played the game well!

It makes A LOT of sense. She even believed that she was the one that seduced/conquered me, I thought she was tripping with some fempower, but it seems she really made effort to 'game' me.

She finds out what you like and just give a reflection to get what she wants.

Damn, this is kinda scary. She fucked with so many guys that she knows what a man really want. In RP I read a lot about girls inheriting the mate behaviors with time, but this is different, she really did some cold reading on me. Thanks a lot man

[–]skyrunner228 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

No problem. There is offense and defense in learning game. Alot of the defense is understanding female nature and then being able to identify when you have someone who is on a whole other level and knowing when not to play. Unless you play on that level fairly often you wouldnt be able to imagine how cold they can be. (I would think only way you could get high volume is like a strip club or something)

Someone else mentioned but a big thing of womens game is guys staying very naive. A womens game cant work if you know she is trying to manipulate you, thats why they hate these spaces. Lol.

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I'm certainly very naive, I want to get lots of experience now.

A womens game cant work if you know she is trying to manipulate you

I always heard about it and thought I was above all of this, but certainly indeed have different levels of game, now it finally clicked. The same way a guy can game a girl without her even realizing, there's the opposite.

[–]skyrunner222 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Have you ever read illimitablemen blog before? He has a few really good blog post that can help you. I cant link directly but I will drop a archive link and you can go to site from there.

http://archive.is/rDXbJ

http://archive.is/E2nJ3

Also books obviously are more investment in time but can also help. Some I would recommend just on this subject.

The Manipulated Man/The polygamous sex

The Predatory Female

The Great Female Con

My Secret Garden

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, it's a very good blog. Thanks a lot for the info man, I'll dive into it

[–]Throwawayboss111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This scene highlights some of the coldness well:

https://youtu.be/oOavwvGUDTM

This scene from gone girl too explains it: https://youtu.be/PaoQNDIf6pY

A worthwhile movie since the husband and wife play against each other but both are quite smart. It’s funny I spoke to a lesbian who said she was one of the biggest “misogynists” she knew. Do you have any tips for running game at the pimp level or higher ?

[–]TheBadGoy7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Every woman has the potential to be a femme fatale

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It was incredible how much she made me believe she was perfect. Awesome blowjobs, always prioritized my pleasure in bed, and always said things like 'well I never kissed guys on work (she is a DJ), but you were so damn hot', etc etc.

[–]TheBadGoy8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You'll get used to it, just treat it like a game.

[–]halleluiaiaia92924 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its called mirroring

[–]trppr2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

For sure it can, to answer the title of your post.

Think about how feminism and online dating has conditioned such strong responses from men, which in the end actually work against what the women want - guys who aren't playing them. Women want to be the sole players of game, because keeping men from even knowing there is a game is a massive advantage. But due to the extreme signaling from women, enough men have caught on to fuck up the women's strategy.

If you are doing TRP right, then you will catch a lot more fish because you are sending out pussy wetting signals. So its a more extreme signal than pre-TRP you, and as a result you'll attract both girls who would have pre-TRP not been attracted to you, and who would have been attracted to you pre-trp. The latter group is obviously quite small, but even average guys can get 'lucky'. Getting lucky is a mix of timing and finding a girl who you are their brand of guy.

In doing TRP right you have different problems than pre-trp because you are getting all sorts of girls who have a greater variance level in terms of fit and quality. The answer to this is issue is vetting, and slow upgrades. Of course, easier said than done.

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Very insightful, thanks man

[–]jm512 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm being able to attract more damaged girls.

We all attract damaged girls.

I'm a crazy magnet. Not because I give off some kind of aura that draws them to me, it's because I don't fuck them off when they approach or give an IOI. Don't ever think that crazy girl hasn't hit on Chad before giving me an IOI. Chad blanked her so I'll do.

Her turning tricks is not a red flag to me as what she did before meeting me is none of my business. (Different story if I were looking for a wife and mother of my children.)

What is a red flag to me and might not be for Chad is the slightest sign of bad behaviour towards others. Disrespect to retail staff, not valuing another persons time etc. Fuck that, I'd rather spend time with a pleasant crazy.

btw, if she has talked about being in abusive relationships, I can just about guarantee that she was every bit as loving and willing to please those 'abusers' as she is currently being to you.

If you don't take up the role of being her abuser, she will see you as the victim and she will become your abuser. Look for signs of her changing and be ready to bail.

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, her previous BF beated her, almost raped her, lied a lot to her, had an actual GF and died from an OD. Sometimes I wonder if the best girl is the more damaged ones... I don't know, I did not dated many girls.

Anyways, I was not abusive, but I certainly wasn't a nice guy at all with her. The very few times I tried to be nice, I regretted the same second. I could instantly see in her eyes she seeing me as clingy/boring you know? Can you share any experience like that man? Thanks

[–]jm510 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Easier said than done but be who you want to be. The girls that like who you really are stick around and the girls that don't move on to other lovers.

[–]cunningcaring4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

She does not sound that bad to me. Not easy to find perfection. She's at least a great plate.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She does not sound that bad to me

Lol she was hooking

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, you're right. On one side she is very good, but in the other I'm far too afraid of being cucked. Plate status for sure

[–]aFida95-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Other than being a hooker, yeah..

But at least she's smarter than the hoes giving it away raw for free so who knows

[–]thestructuralguy1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

That's why you plate and don't give out commitment unless you've been sexually involved for atleast a year. This article pretty much sums it up

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

lol, this is me man, this article is actually one of the best I've ever read.

I have to say, she asked for commitment in the fourth month, I was a pussy and accepted. She later said she would never see me again if I really rejected commitment with her that time. May she would still pursue me, but is also a tell that she was looking for commitment, not for ME

[–]thestructuralguy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Go monk mode and internalize the red pill. I'm using the covid lockdowns as an opportunity to do the same. Learn from your mistakes.

[–]94redstealth0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fake redpoll does. Real redpoll doesn't. Actually, it attracts better people.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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