How to cultivate a sense of discipline that isn’t based on motivation?

Vouch33r · 2019-08-30T05:18:22+00:00

He who has a WHY can survive almost any HOW. ~Friedrich Nitzsche, emphasis mine

beefthathasredmiddle · 2019-08-30T04:50:42+00:00

Well first off, if it’s motivation, it isn’t discipline.

You have to condition yourself to make decisions that don’t pay off right away. Force yourself consistently.

Having a mental is a great way, yet to expensive way to keep yourself motivate long enough to build productive habits.

Keep yourself organized and use a calendar and reminders.

What happens if I don’t do X?

Gotta stat oriented on the goal, and find satisfaction inching towards it.

frontiermarine · 2019-08-30T07:03:26+00:00

Motivation is never reliable, if you want to stick to good habits you make them as easy as possible e.g want to read more books? read only 1 page a day and have them right next to your bed,and for bad habits you make them difficult to do e.g want to quit gaming? after every session put away your console at a hard to reach place in your house.

You should read 'atomic habit's by James Clear ASAP, great book on how to easily build discipline and break bad habits.

noobish_senpai · 2019-08-30T10:54:12+00:00

Motivation is what gets you started, habits are what keeps you going. Develop a habit out of things.

[deleted] · 2019-08-30T12:24:54+00:00

The whole "you don't want motivation, you want discipline" sounds good but is ultimately a crock of shit.

What you really want is internal motivation instead of external motivation, and you create that through meaning.

W_O_M_B_A_T · 2019-08-30T16:08:41+00:00

Read the book "Switch" by Chip and Dan Heath.

Write down a simple daily routine including exercise, and then stick to it. Then reward yourself for sticking to it at the end of the week.

Egoistic notions like "Willpower" or "motivation" are irrelevant. What you need is a simple plan.

Note that the subconscious does most of the heavy lifting of decision making. What it likes the most is to take the path that is most routine to it. This is why people don't have a problem showing up to work in the morning, day in, day out, even if they absolutely despise their jobs.

Otherwise driving while jamming to your favorite song, would be suicidal. But the subconscious doesn't usually have a problem taking actions the ego isn't paying attention to.

MrBowlfish · 2019-08-30T04:39:46+00:00

You’ll make big changes when you are truly sick and tired of your current situation. Often, failing several times comes first.

Schhwing · 2019-08-30T04:47:52+00:00

Very broad question. What do you want to achieve?

If it’s getting fit, then make sure you workout day on day out until it feels weird if you miss a session.

TBtgoat · 2019-08-30T07:41:50+00:00

Something that I often tell myself is to help myself. I constantly think about how I can do favors for my future self. Little things. Over time, your future self will thank yourself. You'll see that it was truly worth it. That the benefit outweighs the cost. You won't do what's easy, you do what's necessary.

[deleted] · 2019-08-30T08:11:08+00:00

Habits

Jesusfeminist · 2019-08-30T08:30:14+00:00

Start small

Startlivingfornow · 2019-08-30T11:15:56+00:00

Develop systems where accountability is a factor.

If you need to make $5000 to feed your child vs $5000 for some extra pocket change, that’s a different level of emotional accountability.

The other way is to fight against the resistance until you form a habit (30 days of consistency). One you develop a habit, it’s harder not to do something.

Example, gyming 5 days a week for 3 months is actually easier than gyming 5 days a week for 4 weeks. It feels odd not to do it after a while.

Title	How to cultivate a sense of discipline that isn’t based on motivation?
Author	ArnoldT1000
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Date	August 30, 2019 4:30 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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