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"if you dont pay for rent im gone"

April 7, 2016
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i live offically by my parents but im sleeping most of my time at my girlfriends appartement. today she told me that she wants me to pay half the rent because im living there. i agree that im often there but that statement sounds weird for me.

whats your thoughts? am i wrong for not paying?

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Title "if you dont pay for rent im gone"
Author dongpal
Upvotes 21
Comments 115
Date April 7, 2016 5:46 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit /r/askTRP
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[–]RedPillProgress45 points46 points  (26 children) | Copy Link

Crazy how people are talking about "ultimatums" and "power plays" this is a fucking girl who is, at this time, essentially the man in this relationship.

Free loader OP is mooching off his girl when it should be the other way around.

advice such as "ok bye" and splitting off is the best advice. OP already showed this girl he is as beta as it gets. She's fed up with him.

[–]Trail_of_Jeers3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

How is he beta?

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Because if he left, the woman would be better off.

In fact, she basically told him this much.

[–]Trail_of_Jeers3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

And? Plenty of women say that. Technically, women would be better off in a monogamous relationship with a beta programmer instead of some RPer's plate. Does that mean everyone who spins plates is a beta?

Just trying to make sure you aren't morality trolling.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

it's not that she said it, it's that it's true, and true enough that she actually direct speak to do it.

when women talk directly, it tends to be at the end of their rope

[–]Trail_of_Jeers0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh yeah. And every woman I've been with tells me I'm the best they've ever had until we break up, and then I have a small penis.

And you ignore that if she actually cared about being better off, she'd settle down with a beta bux and treat that beta like a human being.
So what if she's at the end of her rope? Assuming she is, which is not. He'll know when he bails, based on his actions.

Finally,sexual strategy is amoral. if he is getting laid, then who cares. If he is extracting resources too, then he is black knighting.

If he were doing it on purpose he'd be a hero.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

But he's not, and he doesn't know what to do.

I agree with you on just about everything you've said. But I have a feeling neither of us are would be OP, who is just letting life decide for him, and picking the easiest path, instead of moving ahead with an actual goal

[–]mr_nate_-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn this just went in.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

when it should be the other way around.

Lol what? How on earth is this redpill whatsoever..

[–]RedPillProgress0 points1 point  (17 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry, I should have been more clear.

it should be the other way IF anything.

But we all know NOT to be beta bux providers.

Basically your more of a beta if your being a mooch as opposed to be a beta bux (both are beta)

[–]assholesfinish1st4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

No. Woman paying for you to be her live-in boyfriend is RP. She is more invested and it shows his SMV is high. Just not high enough for her to keep paying. OP should now gas-light her and go no-contact after moving out.

[–]All_Ads_Deceive1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Ya this guy is drinking the gender role propaganda

[–]assholesfinish1st1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not even that. I have no problem with gender roles. It's beta cucks that I can't abide. When you throw commitment at women liberally, expecting sex in return, you are a beta cuck.

[–]All_Ads_Deceive1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The gender role propaganda of you need to be mr. BB. A lot of women use their betas credit cards to spend money on their alphas.

[–]RedPillProgress0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Right but she just told him pay up or leave.

Aka she's fed up paying for a beta who still lives with his parents

[–]assholesfinish1st1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You're missing the point. He must have some desireable, alpha quality if she has been paying for him to live with her and not asking for rent up to now. The reason she's kicking him out now or asking for rent probably has more to do with HER lack of money to keep paying for him than anything he has done. If a bitch is ever paying for you, she is invested. She's been mate guarding by letting him live with her for free. Now that she has less money, that strategy won't work. If OP keeps his distance now, she'll think it's because she's unattractive and will attempt to mate guard another way.

[–]RedPillProgress0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

How are you assuming her money situation changed more then HE has changed / gotten lazy?

It's so common for males in LTR to get comfortable and lazy and start showing beta traits.

I mean yes ok she is invested in him, but she is still paying for his living essentially. That in of itself is going to hint, along with other beta traits, that "oh shit I'm providing for this beta"

Which no girl ever wants to think^

Maybe at first, during honeymoon phase + a little longer OP showed alpha as fuck traits. And now he's toning down and becoming lazy. So I agree that he had to have shown desirable traits AT FIRST to warrant her essentially providing for him. But that has had to have changed by now. It's way more safe to assume that then assume her money situation has degraded.

Another hint at this is just her tone. Rather then telling op "im low on money we need to split the rent, is that ok baby?" She is telling him "pay or walk"

He even said he felt "weird" after that "ultimatum". if she had done scenario #1 OP would have licked her pussy right then and there and gave her half the rent (because I'm pretty sure he's as beta as it gets atm)

That's my opinion on why she's demanding money now or he has to walk. If he walked I doubt she would even care. She might cry for a day but then sleep around literally the next day

So, IMO, mentally she has demoted him to beta bux essentially and if he doesn't pay up then she has no use for him.

Lemme know what you think about my theory man

Edit: OP just told me her parents pay her rent. This FURTHER proves my theory. She would have no reason to ask him for half the money in terms of "I'm low on cash"

I'm not 100% sure if I read OP's comment correctly, I asked him to clarify. But since I'm biased towards my theory I am pretty convinced he meant that her parents pay her rent / utilities bills.

You can read his comment also, it's in response to one of mine on the main thread, lemme know what you think.

[–]dongpal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

her money situation has degraded. her parents dont want to pay alone for her rent, they want me to pay too

[–]All_Ads_Deceive4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Think of unemployed black men who fuck their chicks cheat on them and mooch of them. Alpha as fuck

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You ARE the father!

[–]dongpal[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

she is paying for me not other way around. how am i the beta?

[–]RedPillProgress0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Dude your being provided for by her. How is that NOT beta ?

Some people might argue that "let him! She would do the same!" Or "I'm selfish I wouldn't mind someone paying rent for me"

But it's still beta as it gets.

You should stride to have your own place and pay your own expenses, then LTR and game.

[–]dongpal[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

i pay for everythign else and she doesnt pay the bills but their parents

[–]RedPillProgress0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Her parents pay her rent ?? That's even more bad news for you brother.

She would have no reason to ask for money from you if that was the case (unless the parents told her you need to pay half ??)

Regardless, sounds like you need to implement dread game. From what it sounds like, you are always at your chicks place. You should definitely A) do your own stuff for a bit and B) walk away from this LTR if dread game isn't working and your so far down the beta hole.

I might be misreading your comment btw. Can you clarify?

[–]dongpal[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

you are right. her mother (the reason why she even moved out) told her that i should pay some rent because im sleeping here everyday. if their parents hadnt fuckd up she wouldnt even need to move out. parents are forced to pay and now want me to pay too.

[–]RedPillProgress0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

So then your entire post was misleading.

It isn't weird at all that the people (parents) funding her apartment want you to pay since you live there also.

Pay the rent like a fair person or stop living there.

[–]dongpal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I earn too low money to pay the rent. I'm only an apprentice and I couldnt finance to live on my own yet. She couldnt too. But she has problems with their familiy who now have to(!) pay the rent.

[–]TheDonald2k1653 points54 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I side with the girl here. Yes you are wrong for not paying.

It's her apartment, it's her living space, and you are trying to freeload off of her.

Get your own financial life in order. Stop being a freeloader.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Fuck man, so many people saying the opposite of this. This is completely the right response to this guy.

[–]All_Ads_Deceive0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No a high value man can earn shit. Just like Melania Trump earns every penny she gets for fucking that ugly sack of shit

[–]FriendOf_TheDevil0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, but he can't do it as a result of her demanding it.

OP - If you are there that often you should contribute. Do some unsolicited handyman shit around the place, prepare a meal, maybe pay one of the utility bills as a surprise.

If she and her place are what keep your life bearable while you live with your parents and (I hope) save money and better yourself, then that is a very good thing. Just don't lose sight of the bigger picture

[–]trpdgc-4 points-3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Hahaha he didn't come here for financial advice. These trump fans, I tell ya. So what if he can take advantage of her? Shit, I take advantage of whoever I can.

All he needs to hear is GTFO.

[–]TheDonald2k1616 points17 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

TRP is about self improvement. He needs to get his own shit together first before trying to game women, IMO.

[–]trpdgc1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

He can start improving by standing up for himself. You have no idea what his financial situation is, and he didn't ask for financial advise. Is your advice good? Yes. Is it misplaced? For sure.

[–]TheDonald2k164 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I am guessing you are an alt account of the person who started this thread.

If you are living with your parents and/or having to crash at your girlfriend's place, your financial situation is shitty. I'm sorry, but there is no denying it.

Shit, I have a decent full time job and my own downtown apartment and I still don't feel like I am anywhere near the financial situation I eventually want to be in.

[–]trpdgc-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You guessed wrong.

[–]All_Ads_Deceive-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

TRP is accepting reality. Step one is nothing is fair. Use people. You beta nice guys hate freeloaders and assholes but they are the ones getting shit

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you're living there, you should pay rent.

How would you feel if she were at your place all the time despite technically living at her parents?

[–][deleted] 64 points65 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

"Bye."

[–]dongpal[S] 4 points5 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Please elaborate why you think so. I feel this but i dont know why.

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

She's dropping ultimatums on you. She's trying to take the reigns from you (or already has). Get out while you can.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

From the sound of it, it sounds like she wears the pants anyways. She's got her own place, while OP is bumming it with his parents.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

yeah, this is where red pill can get ridiculous. If you want to have the 'control' and 'power' in the relationship, you better be supporting yourself. Staying over there a few nights a week would be on thing, but if it's most every night and youre bumming around there quite a bit, I think it's fair to contribute to the cost. If you can find a dumb girl to overlook you mooching off her, then by all means go for it, but op sounds like a little bitch and I sympathize with the woman here

[–]AskTRP Endorsed Contributorbicepsblastingstud-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

but if it's most every night and youre bumming around there quite a bit, I think it's fair to contribute to the cost.

There's a huge difference between "is there any chance you can help me pay rent, since you spend so much time here?" and "I want you to pay half the rent." Both are bad, but the latter is far worse.

[–]WhyIsYosarionNaked10 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

And he's saving a shit load of money in the process. I don't get why this has to be viewed as a negative, unless doing somehow interferes with other aspects of his life.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

If he even has a job... I lived with my parents after college because I thought saving money was a good thing. It is. However, it was a terrible decision because being around your parents all the time when you're 22-30 is not healthy for your manhood. It's detrimental to your growth as a man. Moving out was the best decision I made, even though I now was having to pay rent and my own bills.

[–]IoSonCalaf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My God is this true! The emasculation , especially from my mother, was frightening. I ended up Ina friend's couch for a while just to get away from them.

[–]dongpal[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

i have a job as an apprentice. thus i dont earn much money. but i save a lot of money because i never hace to pay rent for my mother. but now im at my gf's home (and their parents are paying the bills because she still goes to school and she doesnt get along with them, shes 18)

[–]seeing-red-0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Her parents are paying her bills? Fuck that, don't give her shit. Put a dollar in your hand: "Ok here's your half of the rent since it's free to you"

I don't know what has happened to TRP lately. But if you start paying her, she will start respecting you less, and the sex will drop off, guaranteed.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

it's not negative, but if you're gonna benefit from someone else's living situation, it's only fair to contribute something. He doesnt have to stay there all the fucking time

[–]WhyIsYosarionNaked0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm referring to the "bumming it with his parents" comment.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Always be willing to walk away. You're playing into her frame. If you allow that to happen she has all the power.

[–]plenkton-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

/u/RedApathy does not necessarily want you to break up with her, but be willing to. It's likely that she will want to keep you, and is just trying to extract money from you.

Women are like children- they push and whine, but only do so to test your strength.

[–]BenjiDread27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a power play. She feels like you owe her something and is trying to strong-arm you. Clearly she feels like she is providing more value than you are.

I would simply spend less time there. If she asks you why you aren't sleeping over as often, tell her that you don't want to confuse her about where you live.

I'd love to hear her reaction.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Nothing I hate more than a fucking freeloader. Part of The Red Pill is self improvement and nothing is more lowly than not having a place you live at.

Think about that for a second due, regardless of how many of these fuckwits say this is her making a power play some bullshit like that. It's her fucking house, you don't pay rent, you got jolted out by your parents, guess what? YOU ARE A HOMELESS PERSON FREELOADING.

Man how cool do you think that will sound to girls you are trying to talk to?

[–]assholesfinish1st0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

And you're a morality troll.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It has nothing to do with morality, it's business. He's taking a resource from her and giving nothing in return.

Would you suggest her use her car, eat her food, use her shower, and washing machine, without paying for any bit of it?

If you say yes, you are a free loader, a bum, not a man who has his shit together. That is not red pill, that's a bitch beta who can't own his own situation.

[–]dongpal[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

i have no problems with my parents. i can live there with no problem. now where i want to live with my gf (and their parents are paying the rent) she wants my money. i could live way cheaper if i would stay at my moms place, but well. i love my gf and want to be around her.

[–]bornredd0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

i love my gf and want to be around her.

Oneitis.

[–]dongpal[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

maybe. but im happy as it is

[–]bornredd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's great, but then this is kind of an odd place to put this question.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

i love my gf and want to be around her.

Then pay her some money, quit being a bum, get a job and a place of your own.

[–]Trail_of_Jeers-4 points-3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

While I agree having your own place is awesome, sexing someone who pays your bills isawesome too.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

spoken like a true hamster.

You sound like a caricature of what SRS would have you think this place represents

[–]Trail_of_Jeers-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How's that? Sexual strategy is amoral. Or did you miss this?

His question boils down to "I have no control over my living space." The answer is, accept it and use it as a tool, or change it. Moralizing is silly.

[–]All_Ads_Deceive-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

womyn buy me alcohol, cook me food, and suck my dick. You might not be able to comprehend this but women are whipped by high grade D

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Doing that is just being the opposite of what Red Pill teaches to avoid in women.

[–]dabrah16 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel like your telling us half the truth to make your side sound better. The reality is you have probably been essentially living there for free. Either start paying half, get your own place, or crawl back to your parents house. If your over 24 you should be living on your own, and paying your own way.

[–]Trail_of_Jeers5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Next her, find another girl, convince her to bang you and let you crash, be better prepared when it all goes bell-end.

All these people making moral judgements - look, you are a big boy, you can ratiocinate the pros and cons of your strategy. If it works and you can live with the consequences, I say have at it. Seriously, I ain't trying to fuck you, and so I don't care how you live and lay. As long, of course, as you accept responsibility for outcomes like this.

[–]abdada22 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

"Awesome, I'll do that!"

and don't come back

[–]dongpal[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Please elaborate why you think so. I feel this but i dont know why.

[–]abdada20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't live with women you aren't actively in the process of marrying.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It is weird, but I really don't think this is about "you paying rent". Is it about her financial instability? Does she feel you're a free loader who mooches off your parents good will while she busts her ass paying bills like an adult? Address those question and do not pay rent because it is not your responsibility. It isn't your residence. Don't let her manipulate you because she has some feels or insecurities. I almost guarantee you this is not about "fairness" or anything like that, and its more about you not being a man. Do you think she'd be asking you to pay rent if you had your own apartment, a flashy new BMW, and a good job, but you still stayed over? Hell no. She'd probably want to stay with you 5 nights out of the week, and it would never even cross her mind to pay you rent, either.

[–]MeatCurtainRod5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You see, if you are dependent on her to provide your food and a place to sleep, then she is feeling negatively about this relationship. She is giving you an ultimatum to 'man up'. If you are in a position that the girl is the provider and you are a dependent, then this is a mother/son relationship, and young girls will quickly realize it isn't what they want, and that they want to be with a dude who can provide for her.

It isn't about rent. It is about traditional mens and womens roles and the expectations.

[–]pbgswd6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah, rent is money. money takes work to get. Dont use people unless you absolutely have to. Either shit or get off the pot with this girl.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

holy fuck if you guys actually side with this mooch, you've lost your fucking minds!

Bro, you need to either pull your weight or go back to mommy and daddy. You're making us look bad with this pussy ass shit.

[–]All_Ads_Deceive5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This guy is a loser for living at home but getting hoes to pay the bills is alpha as fuck. Big dick Jerome does it all the time

[–]PantsonFire12342 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

ACCEPT HER OFFER OF FREEDOM

[–]binrobinro10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

You're a leech.

[–]finitely_eclectic3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

the correct answer is: ""Peace out, girl scout"

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're fucked buddy. the time to address this problem was before. Now you have a ridiculous power play situation on your hands.

Option 1) Okay, I'll pay rent - i.e. you set the terms and I follow them

Option 2) Fuck that - you are now single.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is your shit in her place? Then split the rent. If not, then don't pay for shit.

[–]stillnoturday2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

" im sleeping most of my time at my girlfriends appartement"

Don't be a leech pay for the half then don't stay there if you don't wanna pay in future.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Anytime you receive an ultamatum from a woman, leave. You can soft next if she means a lot to you but grab your stuff. Don't argue, don't fight. Just quietly walk the fuck out and bounce.

[–]assholesfinish1st1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow. Shit tons of morality trolls here. I'm not saying I would do what he's doing, but lay off the free-loader script. Welcome to the society of modern women and the cucks in this thread jealous that a woman pays for you to live with her.

Here's my advice, OP: move out, go no-contact. She'll be begging you to come back. Ignore for a week. Come back to steamy hot make-up sex.

You're not high value enough to have this arrangement permanently, and you should have your own place.

[–]returnofthemackX 2 points2 points [recovered] | Copy Link

It's a powerplay, ultimatum style. Don't bow down or you will lose all your power in the relationship.

[–]RedPillProgress5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He has already lost all power what the fuck.

If he was alpha enough, she wouldn't mind him staying over.

But I doubt he's alpha enough AND she's providing for him essentially.

Even if OP Pays rent he's stilled fuck imo. Game over

No man should be in an LTR if you still live with your parents.

[–]SnarkyFella0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Get out. Get out now. Put aside the sex and walk.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't sleep over. call her bluff. Or move in, and 6 months later marry her. As per Rollos iron rule of moving in.

ultimatums are generally done from a position of weakness. Having said that, why are you living there?

[–]dongpal[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Because it's more comfortable than at home and because I can fuck my gf whenever I want. We dont have parents at home.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Then pay rent

[–]GainzdalfTheWhey0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is ridiculous. My gf wants me to spend more time with her and never once asked this. Though if we would officially move in then yes, she would and i should.

[–]juliusstreicher0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're not wrong for not paying; you're wrong because you are over there sponging off of her, staying in her face. She's getting tired of you. You have a home, and she's got you there all of the time? give her a fucking break. She's giving you a hint, not asking for rent. You're too clingy.

Give her some Dread, especially after this ultimatum/hint/insult.

[–]speed3_freak0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is your stuff at her place or at home? If it's at her place, you live there and should help with the bills. If your stuff is at home you have two choices; either dump her or tell her you'll pay half but you're officially moving all your shit in. If she doesn't like that, peace.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This relationship is toast.

Not because she gave you a "power play."

She had to make a power play, because you're not owning your shit as a man. What does a guy living in his parents' basement have to offer a young woman with her own place? It sounds like she made a smart move.

Keep improving, brother, and be the man women want to keep around.

[–]wtg29890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Everybody chill. He said he lives BY his parents, not with them. He has his own place but probably just enjoys banging his girl at her place. Big deal. How he responds to her bitchiness determines how strong he is.

[–]2comment-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"if you dont pay for rent im gone"

If you don't provide, she's gone. This screams beta bux.

Too many people on this thread are playing this off as a moral thing, it has nothing to do with TRP. Lots of pimps live off their hoes.

Personally, I never liked freeloading, but that's because it instills low standards and makes people lazy, soft and overly comfortable. What you should concern yourself with is if this lifestyle is making you too comfortable with a substandard arrangement.

How old are you anyway? If you're in college, make that first priority, don't worry about moving in with a chick. If you're not, start paying your parents some rent and start planning for a new place - not your GFs.

[–]gabilromariz-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some thoughts:

  • You're staying there too often/long to not be considered a resident and should pay rent (you wouldn't have asked if you agreed)
  • She's pressuring you into moving in with her because she wants the relationship to move forward (proceed with caution, she may think she's wearing the pants)
  • She sees you as a little boy and has to nag you into doing the right thing. In this scenario, moving in and paying up (unredeemable, next)

[–]LukeRhinehart34-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

shes trying to manipulate and bully you. dont give in

[–]alphabachelor-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This isn't black and white.

It depends on a few things.

OP, how long have you been with her? Are you taking showers often, eating her food, etc? And how did she deliver this? Was it like an ambush with an ultimatum or did she explain her feelings and have a discussion with you?

[–]dongpal[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

This isn't black and white.

It depends on a few things.

OP, how long have you been with her? Are you taking showers often, eating her food, etc? And how did she deliver this? Was it like an ambush with an ultimatum or did she explain her feelings and have a discussion with you?

for almost a year. yes shower often because of sex sport etc. but not food, i pay for my own. her parents pay the rent. we had a long discussion, not really an ambush it was a discussion

[–]1BrunoOh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If her parents pay the rent, why should you? She's effectively living in one of her parents' houses. Just like you.

[–]All_Ads_Deceive-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How many pimps drive their woman to work in her car. Then take her car to go fuck other hoes. Alpha as fuck

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Imagine if the situation was reversed and how much of a bad guy you would be for asking her.

Would dump instantly.

[–]AskTRP Endorsed Contributorbicepsblastingstud4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Imagine if the situation was reversed

In general, this is a very bad thought exercise when it comes to relationships and male/female dynamics. Men and women are not the same.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Please explain why this is a bad thought process for this situation and also explain how letting a woman mooch off of you is not a typical beta move.

PSA : downvoting me without any rebuttal doesn't make my statement less true.

[–]tallwheel-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

If the situation were reversed, I wouldn't blame him for asking her to pay either.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

And you are the minority.

[–]tallwheel-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Perhaps, since I am RP and I believe in holding women accountable. You're right that there are probably lots of BP people and white knights who would be jumping in to defend her if he was demanding her to pay rent for living at his place half the time. "Help her out. She's in need". Yeah, I can see people saying that.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Considering most people are not capable of analyzing their thoughts, no kidding. It's sad that so many people even on this thread can't even comprehend themselves.. What the hell has this devolved into? "Be an alpha until that doesn't work then be a provider"?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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