I have been investigating about this lots of red pill PUAs if they’re legit or not and I believe a lot of them are are misogynistic cucks and scammers. Listen I know that using the word “misogynistic” might be controversial in the red pill subreddit. I am not a feminist because feminism this days is toxic and just women that want privileges. However I also don’t hate women I’m pretty sure most men here just want to learn how to be successful with women most don’t really have hatred for women like incels.

First of all when I was a virgin I was very into MGTOW especially coach red pill, and toxic anti leftist. I only talked to women I wanted to have sex, and I always had an agenda. Listen I learned something about women. Girls are not stupid. Women can tell when you’re faking it or not unless they’re like 18 or 19 but even girls my age are not stupid especially the popular girls. I am 18 years old, the popular girls my age in high school are not stupid the ones that look like they could be models. Girls in their 20s or mid 20s already have enough experience. Most of the time getting girls is about the vibe that you give, your body language, your confidence, this cannot be faked. Even if you fake to be confident there will always be something about you that women will figure out unless you’re very good looking.

What I am trying to say is that some red pill guys don’t really fine good advice, they tell you things that aren’t really healthy for your self esteem, mentality, vibe and overall view on women. For example Coach Red Pill, this fat guy that claims to have slept with supermodels is fake as fuck I have videos that prove it.

https://youtu.be/kfXViT7mEqU

When you click on this link got to the minute 28:50 That is the exact minute that you should go and you will see that he is a scam and after you click on that then, restart the video and watch all of it. There dozens of proof that he is fake and a compulsive liar.

Another example is 33secrets. His real name is Matt Cross this guy is always composing about women I though he was a MGTOW, and it just makes me cringe every time he uploads a video I just unsubscribe by how toxic he was. You need to understand that this type of guys make you feel bitter about women and make you resent them. When they talk about “a woman can never love a man like a man loves a woman” that’s is fake as shit. I swear ON MY LIFE that I know guys that have beautiful girlfriends, and by beautiful I mean women that have supermodel bodies not lying I watch porn so I am very lucky in women’s looks. I’ve personally know men that are dimes and are dating men that don’t do anything that most “red pill”dating coaches do.

I know a guys that kills with women. He would be considered a natural I guess I’ve asked him about PUAs and dating coaches and he agreed with lots of them however he told me. “Pickup artist are cool but never listen to a dating coach that complains about women or say that women can’t fall in love because that’s a lie.” See here’s the thing women are picker than men that’s a fact and it has nothing to do with feminism for thousands of years women have been like this WOMEN NEVER CHANGED. Feminism didn’t change women it just revealed who they truly where, and I have no problem with that a lot of red pill men act like women have no morals or loyalty and they hate all men. That is just a lie. When I was a desperate virgin I used to believe in that but when I started hanging out with women more and with players not all things that red pill says are true, some things but not all. At least from MY experience.

I mean let’s be serious here if a man is a socialist and he wants government to give them money, and everybody money and hates the rich that man is obviously poor or has bad experiences at finding good jobs so he complains about capitalism. Well guess what same thing goes with women, if a man is constantly comparing about women it obviously means they are not getting some, or they get ugly women. That’s just obvious I’ve never met a player that hates women they all just are indifferent or love them. Never a misogynistic player at least from what I have seen. Even now that I am not a virgin anymore I am less bitter and cynical about women than before when I was a virgin.

The point is the red pill definitely helps men but too much red pill can lead to toxic behaviors and not good advice on women. I’ve noticed some red pill guys might attract women with daddy issues. Think about it, if a woman is abused by her dad, she will chase men that are just as equally abusive, and if you emotionally abuse a woman with daddy issues she will chase you however women with daddy issues cannot be trusted so they will manipulate you and after dating that woman with daddy issues and she turns out to be toxic you will assume “all women are like that”. It’s like a cycle of hypocrisy, using toxic tactics that attract toxic women and those toxic women make these toxic red pill guys bitter because they are toxic. Just TWO toxic people in a relationship. Using manipulation tactics because they don’t trust each other.

I’m not here able bragging about being alpha or anything I think that’s all bullshit we men are more complex than that. But I have attracted lots of and I am recently getting more and more successful plus I personally know lots of players personally. And they are not bitter or cynical. Like 33secrets or coach red pill. For example coach red pill once said in a video “of a woman wants space it’s because she wants to break up with you or she’s testing you” that is just stupid as fuck if a woman wants space it’s just because she WANTS space, maybe she’s feelings sad or you’re being needy, just let her do what she wants, you keep focusing on your purpose or bang other girls. Why would a player that can get all the girls that he wants be angry about his one girlfriend wanting some space😂 that would be dumb. Men with actual abundance don’t really complain about women at all or try to mate guard their girlfriends. Just like I said before the more I started being successful with women and getting laid, the more I started to “respect women” and I don’t put women on a pedestal I am not a doormat but the more I started treating women like actual human beings, just the same way I treat men. When I am other my friends I like to tease them we make fun of each other it’s just male banter. Same thing with women, I’ve made some female friends not because I want to have sex with them but because I ENJOY THEIR COMPANY. I am not trying to get my pussy inside of them, I already have a FWB so if I am already getting sex why would I be against having female friends? I am not needy so I don’t care. By the way when I am platonic friends with a woman I don’t seek her approval I don’t buy her stuff or compliment her all the time, I just treat her like abnormal human being the same way I treat my male friends. And like I said before I already am friends with benefits with another woman if I want to have sex I just call her, my other female friend is just for conversation and company.

Absolutely nothing wrong with having female friends as long as you are not trying to have sex with them and manipulate them. Plus female friends if they’re attractive they give you validation, one of my best friends is a player, he has lots of female friends, when he goes to a bad or club women give him attention and he gets laid, and he also has sex with some of his female friends, not because he seeks their approval but because his confident and he has game.

That’s the problem that I have with some red pill advice it’s just one sided. Many of this stuff can be misogynistic and not really healthy for our self esteem. I don’t like negging women or seeing women as just objects. I mean I like to have casual sex, but without lying or manipulating like Roosh V. Also Roosh V is an incel now because he hit the wall, he literally said that women don’t have sex with him like before. He is what I like to call an age-cell just an old man that used to be successful (Which I doubt it) and now he is a Alt Right Incel Conservative. I have no respect for him, plus the pictures that he has posted showing the girls he slept with are ugly as fuck seriously I would rather jerk off than date those girls, that is why I am against nofap because they made me attracted to ugly women. Roosh V used to have sex with low hanging fruits, and they are even interviews where these women in those pictures don’t even know who he is, so even Roosh V was lying according to these girls.

Also 33secrets is a hypocrite he says that “women that have sex with lots of guys are damaged goods” but if a man does the same it’s fine. And I know lots of you guys will probably say “oh yeah it’s true women’s biology is different than men blah blah” honestly if you say that you are a nerd and you probably where a loser in high school I don’t care. My uncle is a player and he can’t settle down because he has slept with too much women, he even told me this personally that it’s so easy for him to get sex that it has become almost like an addiction and he can’t be loyal, he can’t connect with women. So yeah if you honestly think “all men are perfect and we can do things without losing our ability to connect but not women cause more than 2 dicks will damage her” if you truly believe this then you are not getting laid enough maybe once or twice a week but in my expletive that is not how real players think. Just a fact.

The truth is women can be just as loyal, romantic, confident and empathetic just as much as men. How do I know this? Because I have seen it with my very own eyes, I have a very open mind, I like to see both perspectives if women are truly as evil as some red pill guys like to say then I want to experience it. Have you ever hears a woman complain about fuckboys? You know type of women that say “all men are shit”. This women are either sexless or they have been cheated on and manipulated by men. People that are bitter about the other gender can’t be experienced enough with the other gender therefore they aren’t players or sluts. I’ve met lots of sluts, they don’t hate men, they’re just promiscuous that’s it. The red pill dating coaches that are fake are: 33secrets(Matt Cross), Coach red pill, Entrepreneur in cars(this guy got cucked by his wife), Roosh V, and I think Neil Strauss the game is fake. He even wrote a book called “The truth” and he admitted that his original PUA advice is cringy and fake.

The dating coaches that I personally like and aren’t toxic are: Alpha male strategies, MJ Getright, Locario, RSD Tyler, Julian Blanc, Fixitfearless, RSD Max, Alan Roger Currie, Rom Willis and finally the best PUA book in my opinion is “Models” by Mark Manson. It’s not about being a douchebag like Neil Strauss or like Roosh V. Or lying like Mystery it’s just improving your self esteem loving yourself and being vulnerable and by vulnerable I don’t mean being a bitch just vulnerable in a confident way, not being afraid of who you are and being emotional(without being a bitch).