Stay clear of female bosses?

VasiliyZaitzev · 2020-03-15T22:00:40+00:00

Good female bosses are a rarity. I have had 3 in my career, and only 1 would I voluntarily work for again - she was ex-military and was as good as a man. The other ones were moody bitches who played favorites. I actually got along with them fine, but I didn't admire their leadership skills.

Fun Fact: Women prefer to work for male bosses by a wider margin than men do. Men are more predictable, i.e. "One mood, all the time."

trematar · 2020-03-15T21:29:50+00:00

If your SMV is high, its great having a female boss because you can manipulate them. If your SMV is low, they won't respect you for shit, no matter how good your work is. That is the reality of female bosses.

redlurker9 · 2020-03-15T20:42:01+00:00

I had a few female therapists. Two of them really helped me deal with a lot of my struggles. I didn't know about the red pill back then, and now I'd never go see a female therapist anymore. But nothing is ever black or white. You should be cautious around a female boss, but she won't necessarily be able to bring you good things.

longjeep2005 · 2020-03-15T23:09:06+00:00

I had a woman manager for a while, and she was great. She got really stressed out, but she always looked after the needs of her employees and her organization. I think it really depends on the person, not so much the gender. I absolutely would NOT dismiss a career opportunity because of a woman boss.

RedPillAlphaBigCock · 2020-03-16T00:09:07+00:00

I had amazing female therapists and Bosses and managers. I’m from Ireland so maybe there is a culture difference - I can not relate to some of these negative comments at all.

watchguy45 · 2020-03-15T20:29:57+00:00

Yes avoid at all costs.

If you work in a big corporation understand that middle managers are usually very weak and feminine even if they are male. Getting a good one is an exception, not the rule. Female bosses are the worst.

This is why you must always be building skills, on your grind and smart. Right now I have a good male boss. I’m prepared to leave tomorrow if he gets replaced with a woman.

Always be nimble.

God bless.

boy_named_su · 2020-03-15T21:01:22+00:00

Yes, absolutely. They are biased against men (except very handsome men, but then they'll just sexually harass you), and don't have a justice system similar to men's

jsphere256 · 2020-03-15T20:34:16+00:00

I had an amazing female boss for about two months. I think a longer professional relationship might have resulted in some of these issues, but she didn't have enough time to get tired of me so it was great.

Longevity seems to be a significant hurdle in any relationship with women, professional or otherwise.

SpicyYeetJuice · 2020-03-15T20:32:09+00:00

Don’t work retail get a trade unless youre in college

I’ve only heard bad stories about female bosses but it’s not a reason to quit a good job over

leftajar · 2020-03-16T05:42:31+00:00

Yes. Female bosses:

Typically have fragile egos (as virtually all women do), which interferes with their ability to take direct feedback. This makes work wildly less efficient overall, because you always have to worry about how they're going to take something. You can't just "git r dun."
Are often underqualified due to quotas. My buddy works for a major tech company, and he just told me that they for sure are using quotas to pump female boss numbers.

There are many worse aspects to female bosses than that, but those are the two main factors.

TruthonPower · 2020-03-16T06:13:14+00:00

Female bosses are shit basically?

mikkeldaman · 2020-03-16T08:03:44+00:00

To be honest with you, from a professional stand point I think that some of my greatest mentors were in fact women. I think that women tend to be quite empathetic with people that are younger and less experienced if they are willing to learn because it appeals to their motherly nature (I guess?). When I told them that I wanted to be pushed out of my comfort zone and lead external meetings, for example, they were happy to take a step back and push me to do it.

While with male superiors, it feels like they always want to be the stars of the show and when, at least in my experience, you go to them for advice - technical or otherwise - they always act really important and aloof and busy and basically have to beg for their attention. That's not to say that they are not great guys, but I feel like with them I learn from watching them, while women would be more proactive and make me learn through practice.

So I think in the end it depends from person to person, but my experience overall with female superiors has been generally good.

UEMcGill · 2020-03-16T11:18:02+00:00

I've had a few women bosses, but I've also worked in a predominantly female environment as an engineer from an all-male department. What I failed early in my career to recognize was that even in work, women communicate vastly different than men. If I stated a simple fact, "Your product failed because a and b" it was perceived as a personal attack. I had to become very good at bringing them to a consensus when it was obvious. Strangely enough, one of my best work relationships was with a Russian woman, she was blunt and didn't mind direct criticism, as she saw it as just business.

I never much cared for the 'don't shit where you eat' rule and the company I was with didn't care either as there were several married and long term couples in the building. I was young and adventurous so I made the rounds and had my fill of the young ladies in the company. This definitely had its ups and downs but the biggest was probably when I eventually started dating the woman who would become my wife it added massive social proof. Sudden;y I could do no wrong.

Very early in my career, I stumbled upon my then female boss coming out of another VP's room during a business trip, I absolutely implied to her that my review needed to be stellar that year.

The thing is with all of this? Learn to play games of power. The biggest take away for dealing with female bosses and coworkers? Think as you want, but behave like others. I once read how one of the winningest women's NCAA soccer coach built his teams so well, he basically said with women in groups, you have to build camaraderie first, then team skills. Approach having a woman boss as such.

DrGandu · 2020-03-16T03:03:40+00:00

Male bosses won't hate you for your gender, unless they're a simp, in which case that company is already on the way to the gutter. A boss needs to be practicing some Dark Triad RP stuff to be handling a company well. One boss I work under over my Summer and Winter breaks is like that, and we have a brother-to-brother relationship despite him being 37 and me being 19.

I'd suggest you learn working under female bosses to learn to apply RP principles and practice DT in the long run. Look up the post that advises against feeling bad about manipulating women, because they honestly don't.

What I can say is, I don't really have experience working under women, but I'd choose to simply as a learning curve to prepare me for the increasingly feminized world and its workforce.

Kasra12439 · 2020-03-16T03:50:13+00:00

Lemme guess, she's a feminist too

throwawaycunt1997 · 2020-03-15T20:16:05+00:00

Worked with both. Keep your head down and avoid being alone with them. They usually get moved. Try to make friends with male supervisors etc. Have some good back up.

Title	Stay clear of female bosses?
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Date	March 15, 2020 8:10 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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