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What are some reasons why you SHOULD get married?

January 4, 2021
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I understand the idea of never getting married, I’m on board with that train. However I want to flip the scripts and ask about benefits or reasons for marriage. Why should or would a redpill Ed man get married? Is there literally zero reason a red man should get married?

Is marriage simply a bluepill decision that yields absolutely zero benefit for a redpilled man?

There’s got to be some reason or benefit as I know some of you guys are likely married despite taking the pill.

Thoughts?

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Title What are some reasons why you SHOULD get married?
Author KingGerbz
Upvotes 49
Comments 98
Date January 4, 2021 6:08 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit /r/askTRP
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[–]TrpKid2136 points137 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Stable environment for my offspring

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Until proven otherwise

[–]DOJITZ2DOJITZ1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This.. always have an exit strategy

[–]liarspoker12351 points52 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Only reason I can think of is having a family and creating a solid base for my kids to grow. If you want kids in your life, that is

[–]paint-the-world-red130 points131 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

She's extremely rich, has a heart condition and no living children

[–]NightFire4514 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You jest but the original intent was to merge power between families. Getting married should be with a wealthy woman.

[–]fromsatola2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]mywifehasabf0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]The_Invader_Kilz1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]blingbladeade1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]nightless_hunter1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Optionsmfd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

u beat me to it

[–]Snowaey0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Brooo fuuuuck

[–]jjj257676 points77 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Do what you want. Know what you want.

I want to have kids— this means getting married for me. Marriage is tough. You are around the same woman everyday who learns everything about you, becoming a Shit Testing Ninja. If you can’t pass Shit Tests, you’ll fail at any marriage.

Beyond this, living with a partner can be tough— you have to always be building attraction, and conscious of day flirting. A lot of AFCs just go from sitting on their ass, binging bullshit to initiating sex without any emotional buildup. When you don’t live with your partner, the distance creates natural desire and dread— this doesn’t happen in marriages.

I want my child to know masculine and feminine ideals— I can teach the masculine, but I can’t teach the feminine. My future wife will be able to teach the feminine, but not the masculine. I admire the differences between the two energies, and enjoy how each energy enriched the other.

I won’t tell you to get married. I’m not your daddy. Figure out what you want.

Edit: Even as someone who wants to get married, I won’t recommend doing it.

[–]ThenIJizzedInMyPants4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When you don’t live with your partner, the distance creates natural desire and dread— this doesn’t happen in marriages.

this is why i love my job which involves a good amount of international travel. natural way to maintain some distance

[–]KingGerbz[S] 2 points3 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

It seems like all the reasons you want to get married can all be accomplished without actually getting married. Why can’t you do all those things without actually getting married?

Why do you need to marry to have a woman teach your kids feminine ideals? Why can’t your not-married baby momma do that?

[–]jjj257612 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can do it without marriage.

I don’t feel like doing that, so I won’t.

[–]ThenIJizzedInMyPants5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

some women are fine not being officially married, but the real reason is that women are always comparing themselves to their friends and to society. They feel left behind if a man doesn't get down on one knee and put a ring on it while all their friends are getting locked down. they want that stupid IG post showing off their rock. plus remember men are the gatekeepers of commitment so giving your commitment to her is the holy grail for her.

[–]jjj25762 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I like the Holy Grail metaphor here. Weird thought: it’s the Holy Grail when you are the prize.

For a BP AFC, it’s less of a reward for her. The woman feels like she is rewarding the AFC of anything.

Good comment.

[–]ThenIJizzedInMyPants2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah totally agree - commitment from a low value dude means very little to her. but value is also subjective depending on what she thinks she can get or what she 'deserves'

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[–]jjj25760 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Weirdly enough this connects to “The Sex God Method.”

Too much teasing kills immersion and emotional build up for sex. The analogy? Too much Dread implodes relationships.

It depends on the Man and Woman too. Is the Man a good leader who has solid Frame? If so, he can lead a lass to not committing to marriage or committing to marriage. A Good Man can lead a woman to do anything— marriage or not— remember: a woman will crawl through a hallway of broken glass to let Chris Evans bust a nut in her anal cavity.

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[–]jjj25760 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My point? A Good Man can lead a woman to do whatever.

Yes, yes— vet well and what not.

[–]quijote30004 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not stable enviroment for children if you are not married

[–]jjj25761 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Plenty of research backs your comment up too.

[–]Mr_Badass41 points42 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

You make Mother happy.

[–]KingGerbz[S] 24 points25 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

This is the most convincing/legitimate reason I’ve heard so far

[–]ThenIJizzedInMyPants2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

seriously? that's a pretty fucking shitty reason

[–]i-am-the-prize5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

no, it's a shit covert contract whereby you enter into an actual legal agreement with one woman to get kudos and approval of another woman.

it's the worst reason on here so far, WTF are you smokin'?

[–]trinitrotolueneblast18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Mom is not just any woman but ok

[–]nebula792830 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Uh wut? Im sure ur mother would love it until she finds you got divorce raped 😂🥱

[–]amwfhunter18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Taxation issue or immigration reason that benefits you.
You have cancer and will die really soon. To get out of prison.

[–]Willed4Pill27 points28 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Small tax breaks?

No reason to get married. Don’t do it.

[–]69swagman9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mostly for the children’s benefit.

[–]Bungeeeeee5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Religion, taxes, kids. For me LTR = marriage, though. I don't see a reason for getting into an LTR other than raising kids together or perhaps some business endeavor. Also, not many guys can (and should) pull younger girls in their older years and sustain that lifestyle while living their purpose. Kids is main reason, though.

[–]NeverLace7 points8 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

My parents have been living together for 25 years, and have raised me and my younger brother, without being married, and none of them feel the need to put a ring on it. Hopefully thats how I end up in 25 years too.

[–]KingGerbz[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There are other guys in here who claim the only reason to get married is to provide a stable environment for raising children.

I guess you and your family are proof that it’s possible to do that without marriage.

[–]NeverLace0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks brother I hope it becomes the norm.

[–]daproest12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your parents are awesome.

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[–]NeverLace1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its nice that it works that way in your country but i live in sweden, and it doesnt really work that way when both your parents are working/having their own companies etc. You just gotta live with that 33% tax.

[–]holyshocker2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Imagine 25 years of saving on auto insurance, home insurance, health insurance, life insurance, taxes, better rates on loans etc. $4000-$8000 saved from a standard auto insurance claim over 300 months for instance. Add it all up and you could pay for you and your brothers college or a large chunk. If you invested the savings who knows what it could be, possibly even a house. Yet guys are afraid of losing half of a house in divorce.

[–]NeverLace1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like a great plan for ppl where you live, but in sweden collages are free of tuition, I actually got paid $1000 a month to study at a university. All in all there isnt much financial insentive to marry in sweden if your parents have roughly the same income.

[–]holyshocker0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ahh, a country that cares about it's citizens. Then as long as they have wills made then it'd just be for sentimental reasons.

[–]NeverLace0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly the case.

[–]dyomaeth2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The reason is because many good women will ask for the marriage as a prerequisite for giving you children - this is a demand they'll make to get your commitment and the benefits of it. Said benefits are entirely for her to feel safe, keep her stress levels low and keep her mentally stable, so she can give birth to and nurture the children. Some women will feel content doing it without being married and won't have that need - many women do. I know what I am saying might go against some TRP principles (such as even remotely assuming women know what they want), but that's the main reason I could think of. Because women want it, and some of us happen to want it too, as we as men have the natural proclivity to like feeling needed. It's not a rational reason, it's thoroughly emotional, we probably shouldn't do it, but it's why we still do quite often.

[–]daproest12 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The only real reason.... Best environment for offspring.

Some other reasons include the “tax benefit”.

The fact that your spouse can legally make medical decisions on your behalf. U guys also can enjoy benefits from the others job if they have an insurance plan.

If you’re religious, you’re following your religion by getting married.

The main benefit I’ve always seen (which doesn’t mean shit anymore) is.. the vows. The problem is women are more likely than men to not give a shit about the promises they once made when they were in a good mood the moment they become uNhApPy. I’m speaking in generalities for those of you stalking my Reddit Moves who aren’t in trp.

The main reason really is to just keep the girl u want a little longer. U can mitigate the risks by setting up everything beforehand. Family attorney. Setting up a trust/LLC to funnel everything thru. Etc. If I could go back to when I lost one specific girl over this ridiculous issue, I would’ve married her just to shut her up. I didn’t wanna be with anyone else anyway. That dumbass REALLY wanted the piece of paper so she could brag to friends and family about it.

[–]nebula792831 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

was she worth keeping if she wanted the paper more than you? 🥱

[–]daproest10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Logically? Absolutely not. But for me, yeah. I was more ambitious and optimistic when she was around. Male instinct (protect and provide) takes over.

[–]Shiningmesentere2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

cuddles,sex, food and a clean house in theory.

[–]psychotropy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Consistent sex (if you say on your shit), children, and a stable environment to raise them in.

[–]erottawa2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you want kids, a stable family life with both parents is the ideal and that means marriage.

If you marry your economic equal, you will live a much better life financially. Less of your income % goes towards basics and shelter, you get a nicer house since you can afford more, etc. Don't marry a woman who is an economic drain. All women understand this instinctively, men need to learn it.

[–]arakouzo4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You fit in better with all of the people who do what they're supposed to do and expect you to do what you're supposed to do. But at quite the risk.

[–]bluejedi245 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

  1. You go on a journey as two people aligned instead of alone. 2 working together is always better than 1.

  2. It’s the best situation for children and their growth to have a mother and a father in a permanent union.

  3. Marriage provides stability and makes it harder to make impulsive relationship decisions, which is a good thing.

Anyone who seriously thinks there aren’t ANY benefits or good things about marriage have been led badly astray. There are quite clearly good reasons for it and always will be. That said, you must make sure it is with the right person because if it isn’t then things can still be very bad or even worse than living the single life.

[–]daproest13 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Agree with all of this. But women sure do love filing for divorce.

[–]bluejedi242 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They do. But not every single one of them. If you are being a proper man it’s very hard for her to do that. My aunt and uncle are a good example. My uncle is alpha and brings in most of the income. My aunt knows what her roles are (raise the kids, take care of the home, and make the family happy). Even though she’s very emotional and has a roller coaster brain, and has even hit my uncle with lamps and umbrellas (many years ago), she would never do anything to leave my uncle because she is happy and would find no better situation anywhere else. But then again she was raised with pretty good values so that helps.

It’s very sad to see middle aged women leaving their husbands in attempt to “recapture” the partying lifestyle when they’re around age 45 or 50. Some of my friend’s parents have experienced this and it’s sad to watch. But in pretty much every case I think it’s aided by a husband who let himself go and became weak (got fat, stayed a loser into his 40s and 50s, didn’t do what was needed to make his wife happy). If you are properly alpha and be the best man you can be, the chances of your wife leaving you are drastically reduced I think.

[–]daproest11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree. Most women today though are NOT ok with depending on their husbands. I tried this approach because I know it works. As well learned on her, some of us the hard way, a woman’s love for a man, is often intertwined with his need for him. Briffaults law. But o remember when I tried this approach, the girl at the time said “if this was 60 years ago, I’d be ok with it. But I don’t wanna have to depend on a man in Case he leaves or something”. Ironic considering she’s the one who got miserable and left. The more independent she grew, the more unsatisfied she got. The happiest we ever were was when she was nothing. U can’t fight nature. It doesn’t work.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There are none. This subject has been covered to death, and circumstances have not changed.

[–]ShittyWars4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So you don't be alone and kill yourself when you get older.

[–]eaazzy_130 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’d argue that’s more likely to happen if you have a marriage that goes south, than if you never married in the first place.

[–]ThenIJizzedInMyPants1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can do whatever you want, but the point of the advice here on TRP is that ex-ante the risks outweigh the benefits for men in western feminized societies. Actually marriage is also pretty shitty in non-western countries... in many asian countries the husband works 90 hours a week and hands over his paycheck to his wife. And this is not even considering cheating, cucking, and asset seizure possibilities.

The only reason I can see to get married is to raise children in a stable environment. That's it. But if you do that, recognize that you will have make sacrifices and be a fundamentally weaker position as you can't simply walk away with no consequences if she fucks other dudes or divorces you. Fundamentally you lose abundance and with that mindset shift comes neediness and drop in T. That's why marriedrp calls marriage rp on hard mode. If you have good frame control and maintain a captain/FM dynamic, keep lifting, and secure resources, then maybe things will turn out OK for you. But it's never guaranteed ex-ante.

[–]MrNeurotypical1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's the deal: She gives you her best years of looks, youth, fertility and offspring in exchange for being protected, provided for, and taken care of in her worst years. I mean that's the idea, historically speaking. Nowadays she fucks hundreds of other men during her best years, gets pregnant with a few, and then when her best years are over she finds some chump that she rejected before to take care of her in her worst years and raise another man's kids.

Red pill is like a big slap in the face to women who don't marry young and keep their man happy. After guys learn the truth about women and their mentality of fucking until they're 30 and then settling down, just outright reject them. I see it on here every day. It's going to keep getting worse for them as more guys learn about it. They will just bounce from cock to cock and one day be old and ugly and no more cock and no husband and maybe a few kids to raise alone. I expect a lot of men to decide not to marry given the quality of women out there.

[–]lventox2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think there are any benefits in modern day society. Some comments make sense though, if you have a child it is imperative they have a stable environment. But I truly do not think there are any now.

[–]Snowboard185 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

None. Absolutely no benefits of marriage for a man.

Women get all the benefits.

[–]KingGerbz[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Could you say the same for an LTR then? What differentiates the two? I know my standards for an LTR and my standards for a wife are exactly the same

[–]paint-the-world-red7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Peep game tho, LTR's are more of a laissez-faire kinda situation because you're (hopefully) not tied to her in anyway besides your investment in that relationship but in a marriage, your wife has the court system on her side and you have to think about what was going on back in the day.

In like the 1950s you could beat your wife and the cops wouldn't really do shit but tell you to keep it on the DL but now? She can call and say she doesn't feel safe with you around and 5-0 will come pick you up.

Women also had to get married in order to get resources from men, because they couldn't work so they were stuck in marriages but now modern women have their own money (security) and can leave at any point in time during their marriage (they're also giving incentives to do so) and because family court still seems to think it's the 1970s the husband is the one that has to foot the bill 9/10 times.

[–]jdotw90 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

you have a legit reason to let yourself go

[–]Litenpes1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Wow, very interesting reading the replies. I find it quite ridiculous to think that 10/10 marriages are doomed to fail or that marriage is an inherent bad deal for a man. There is quite the number of marriages that work perfectly. If you're scared, get a pre-nup. I think the main reason people are splitting up in general is they haven't done their "due diligence" and base their relationship on the initial stupid love. But to answer your question, I think the most apparent reason would be that it is a sign of commitment. Also it's romantic (don't get me wrong, don't marry without serious consideration)

[–]ThenIJizzedInMyPants0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

ex ante what are the odds of your marriage succeeding? and even if it succeeds, what's your quality of life vs staying single? there is nothing beneficial about marriage for men except the possibility to have kids. but you can have kids without marriage too, even though it's not the norm

[–]daproest10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Commitment is a sign of commitment. Being exclusive with someone and planning a future together is a sign of commitment. Getting each other corny gifts that imply you’re both in it for life is a sign of commitment. NOT BREAKING UP is a sign of commitment. Marriage is a contract between you, your wife, and her bodyguard. The government.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Legal recognition by the state. Makes transferring of assets and hospital visits much easier. Only worth it if you want to start a family though.

[–]DiskKiller20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some countries like Germany give substantial tax benefits to married couples.

[–]yaboyebeatz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Y’all can get married, just don’t sign the contract. Y’all can have kids, just make sure you get a dna test. Protect you and your assets at all cost.

[–]kclanton800 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There zero benefit in Legal marriage for a man, and a laundry list of drawbacks.

On top.of that I ha e never seen a happily married man in my life, not even on their wedding day.

[–]Optionsmfd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

shes rich old and bad health with no prenup

[–]nessdawwwwg0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My husband was comfortable with marrying me because our finances at the time were more or less equal (including retirement savings) so divorce is lower-risk.

We married only because we wanted children, and wanted to provide an aura of stability to them - same last name, social status of a married couple.

I do not work so I take my role as wife and mother incredibly seriously and my husband only does what he enjoys (cooking a couple of times a week, gardening) and what gives him time to bond with our children (bath time, playing, cuddles). This was both our expectations of marriage. If we did not both agree with this lifestyle I don't believe we would have been married.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Kids. Thats it.

Source: MRP guy here.

[–]btrpb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Kids. End.

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[–]OfficerWade0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If shes a really great women - by all means get married. IF shes you're one and only. I mean what am i missing here? Its not like some apocalyptical end to your suffering.

[–]bumbandit9990 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

So you can pretend to be straight

[–]MrNeurotypical1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Worked for me :)

[–]Casanova-Quinn-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Raising children is probably the best reason. Although, you can live with a woman and raise your children without being legally married. Just make sure you don't live in an area with "common law marriage". It would also be ideal to marry a woman with a higher income or from a wealthy family, so in a divorce you're unlikely to lose a ton of money.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRPU_mike-2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

To me, the only good reason to get married is to have kids and raise a family.

[–]KingGerbz[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

That seems to be the most popular answer for good reason. So that begs the question: can you raise a quality family without marriage? Hmm

[–]Endorsed ContributorRPU_mike0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The question is, can you?

[–]KingGerbz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m not sure. Hopefully I don’t have to answer that question for many more years.

[–]daproest1-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. Duh.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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