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why the hate for PUAs?

November 3, 2013

What's the difference between a PUA and a Red Piller? What's wrong if one follows both? I can't understand the hate.

I started off with seduction and then discovered TRP. They're freaking unreal. I just found a gf (or lover, as some of you prefer) and shit's going great now.

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Title why the hate for PUAs?
Author Spiritualpha
Upvotes 0
Comments 8
Date November 3, 2013 11:07 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit /r/askTRP
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/askTRP/why-the-hate-for-puas.138441
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/1pu5i7/why_the_hate_for_puas/
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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

PUAs are only concerned with pumping and dumping. Red pill is about making a man the best man he can be which attracts women...kind of like how nice muscles are a pleasant side effect of being fit.

PUAs are street corner magicians. Red pill is Chris Angel.

PUAs are script kiddies. Red pill is seasoned hacker.

PUAs are circuit training. Red pill is Olympic power lifting.

PUAs are a prius. Red pill is Indy.

Are you smoking what I'm rolling?

[–]Spiritualpha[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Eye-opening, thanks. So by what your saying a Red Piller should smoke a PUA in no time if they both wanted to get with a woman, right? The way I got it is that a Red Piller makes for a better lover, husband or whatever than just a PUA, who may bang and then be needy as fuck when dating.

But that's just my 2 cents.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're still not getting it. PUA is about getting laid. Red pill is about making you better as a man, which makes you attractive. This raises your SMV which brings in higher quality women.

[–]steadymotion2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What hate?

I have no hate for PUAs.

[–]EleriumAvenger1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think it is pity. All a man thinks about is what he lacks, I will wager that most betas spend a large about of their time obsessing about sex because it is a rarity in their life and they have to expend a lot of effort to obtain it. The beta envy to the PUA's because in their mind they are living in heaven. The red pill man pities both because they mold their life around obtaining sex. Once The need for sex, intimacy and companionship is met most red pillers can focus their attention on other things. ironically enough the things that they focus their attention on hobbies, career, self improvement and friends make them higher value males and make obtaining sex that much easier.

[–]yoursisterlovedick0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That makes it sound more like jealousy than pity. PUA can get laid without effort, red pill have to work hard to increase their value. PUAs can steal girls from high status men, because they have realized the basic fact that attraction is short sighted and PUAs know exactly how to trigger it.

[–]kudosxv0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because what you may get by listening to them is not what your RP poster is looking for. Their advice gives you something else.

[–]Exactly_what_I_think0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No hate. IMO PUA is faking RedPill attitude/life/game. RedPill is also interested in the why and some in LTRs.

Fake it until you make it. I prefer to live it and understand it.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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