It literally always boils down to this:
Them: Patriarchy!
Me: Where?
Them: It's everywhere it holds us down!
Me: But I don't feel like a victim. I've never feel like I was getting the worse off deal by being a woman. I've never been treated badly because I was a woman.
... And then the conversation devolves really quickly because it just turns into one woman telling another woman why she should feel like a victim for just being a woman. These conversations are so ridiculous between two women.
Since this is a men's advocates group I would really like to hear from other women who have experienced this
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The point is to not have an end goal, the point is to be perpetually oppressed so that you never have to stop demanding more and more. That is their concept of equity, it's not a balance that eventually evens out, it's just an engine that only ever goes more and more to one direction and if you completely refuse to acknowledge how the other side is affected, then you never have to pull the breaks, you just keep going.
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You can acknowledge institutional racism and the validity of critical race theory without resorting to basically what amounts to just ethnonationalism. Although I haven't really encountered these people I know that there are people out there that unironically support black separatism lol. Ethnonationalism is ethnonationalism no matter how you cut it or who's doing it and it is pretty much never appropriate. Tweeting "white men are evil", "kill all men" is just prejudice, and a lot of these people are white women who claim to not be racist.
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How? Black people are discriminated against in almost all levels of the legal system for their race alone, just like men are compared to women. That's all it aims to point out, not to view every human interaction as a fundamentally racist one or anything like that.
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The Wikipedia definition is "an academic movement of civil-rights scholars and activists in the United States who seek to critically examine U.S. law as it intersects with issues of race in the U.S. and to challenge mainstream American liberal approaches to racial justice."
I'm fine with that definition, how it gets implemented is an entirely different story. I mean the definition of feminism is "the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.", but the movement itself most definitely contradicts that. Personally I think with blm the good outweighs the bad, and with feminism the bad outweighs the good.
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