Why spin plates when you can set the whole table?

Game is great and all, but simple red pill philosophy has served me much better. Rather than smooth-talk my way out of commitment, I've been able to establish a literal 5-girl harem of girlfriends who are exclusive to me that are variably aware of each other. Great, right?

Gets better: this past month I've organized two of them into a hierarchical three-way with me, with each believing that they are the "real girlfriend" and competing fiercely for my validation (through competitions which are mostly NSFW and really belong on another subreddit).

All it took was steadily programming the idea into them, together as a group, that they are working for my attention every day and that their fortune is with finding me, not keeping me. Isn't that what successful ball-and-chain wives accomplish? I don't know if we're so different after all!

I'll admit my game is not stellar, though, and I only managed all this by focusing my efforts on girls from sexually neglected social spheres (autism specialist and a librarian: the amazing tits and asses underneath those thick sweaters and heavy skirts!). Their work situation is the famine and I've set the plates for the meal.

Just my two cents of success! Thanks for the advice and guidance everyone. I've only been reading about this stuff for a few months but my world is transformed.

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I don't speak for this guy, and I'll even go on record as thinking that his bragging is a little over the top - I'm a bit skeptical about him. But with that said, in my experience, regular girls that you meet in everyday life are down for this kind of purely sexual relationship if the circumstances are right for it.

The right circumstances are, first they have to really like you. So put effort into yourself to be likable. Next, you need to have fucked them - and they need to have enjoyed it a lot. And then you have to have never lied to them or led them on. If a girl even suspects that you're not honest, she'll bolt. Everybody knows about this thing called a player, and nobody wants to be played. Finally, in most cases, don't act like a freak until after you've had sex. A girl has to feel safe with you before she'll go out on a limb.

I personally don't use "game" stuff (kino, amog, whatever stuff they talk about). I'm not "programming" anybody like OP said. What I do is, I go to a lot of social activities - as many as I can find. I'm in running clubs. I do rock climbing. Trivia nights at bars are good. If anyone wants someone to hang out with, I'm ready to travel. So I have a large circle of friends. That's where I meet people.

Then I make sure I ask a girl out as soon as we've had a chance to talk. I don't hang around her for months thinking, "gee isn't she great" - I ask her out. Most of the time, they say no, or they have a boyfriend. So I don't bring it up again - if they become single and they were interested, they can contact me. Those that go out with me, I treat really well on dates. I put effort into doing something fun. And I know this probably isn't popular around here, but a girl doesn't pay for anything when she's with me.

I make a move early on. I basically keep escalating a date until I get a signal that it's as far as she wants to go. A lot of girls want to wait, or after a date they decide we're not a good match. I'm never bothered by that. I still enjoyed hanging out with them. Those few that make it to the stage of having sex, I put a lot of effort into that too - well, if possible, sometimes you just have to go with the moment, but if going back to my place to fuck, then we're having a shower and taking it slow.

After sex, some of them wont want to do it again. Hey, it happens. I'd rather stay on good terms with her than push her to give it another try if we weren't sexually connecting. But if she did like it, then she'll want to have some sort of "what are we doing" talk. At no point during any of this do I ever lead her to believe that she's the only girl I'm dating. "I really like you. I think we're developing something great here. I'm going to keep seeing other people and I'll always be honest with about that and about where I am with you and anyone else. And I want you to respect me enough to be honest with me in the same way."

This is the point where, in my experience, pretty much all women are not okay with things. They want you to say that you're "looking for the right girl" and moving the relationship to the next level. Obviously you can lie to them and keep them around for a while by telling them that you're thinking about girlfriend then marriage, but eventually lying ends badly. They'll feel led on and you wont stay friends. So it's very important that you be honest, but stick to your guns. And you also need to say that you respect that they wont want to be with a guy who says these things - and that it's more important to you that the two of you stay friends than continue to be lovers.

So, out of all the women you can meet, a percentage will actually talk to you, a percentage of those will agree to date, a percentage will sleep with you, a percentage will find you sexually compatible. Of those few that are left, hardly any are going to keep dating you after you have that talk. That's been my experience. Hardly any women are like, "yeah okay, let's keep having sex and you keep dating other people."

But that's okay too. Because see, there's no hard feelings. You didn't break up with them. You're that guy who was really fun, always polite, great in bed, but just not ready to settle down (and bonus, he didn't lead me on). Some of them are going to start calling you up when they're just frustrated with the dating scene or they just need to get laid. If they're feeling depressed, you take them out for a real date. If they're bored, they can hang out. But at this point, when you go out or when they come over, there's no pretense - it's for sex. And they know they're not the only one and they're okay with it.

This is when you can start talking about regular threesomes.

In contrast to what OP said about girls being exclusive to him, I think it's best to encourage women to keep dating. And if a girl finds a guy she really likes, I am honestly happy for her. Jealousy can't enter into this. That's my opinion.

I'm not going to brag and tell you that I've got 100 supermodels on tap. But I will say that I got divorced some years ago (and I'm lucky, I don't have kids) and the way I happened on this way of thinking is that I just honestly was too hurt to have a girlfriend, but I was still horny and wanted to date. So I was dating but not committing and one day I just realized, this is actually a lot better than having a girlfriend.

Oh also, I put a lot of effort into my appearance. I wear nice clothes. I work out. My teeth are white. That sort of thing.

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Ok, we're getting somewhere. Let me give you some quick background to understand me a bit better:

I'm ultradian bipolar. It basically means I have a very wide range of emotional states. My mind can soar into hysterical laugher and euphoria over the smallest of joys, I can also sink into extreme depths of hopelessness and depression over small let-downs. It's really intense. What does this have to do with your lack of self-esteem?

I have been in the same place! When I was younger, I grew up homeless and unwanted, I had bad acne, smelled like BO, slept in piles of garbage in people's basements! Man, I didn't have shit!

The only way I learned to get out of these negative mindstates, and build confidence, is to have a solid idea for who I did or could respect. Who is that man I could become?

I understand in these times, it's very hard to find out who the "good guy" is, especially when women almost force us to wear a black hat in the name of self-preservation. There is a quote in the beginning of my novel, "Bellum omnium contra omnes" which I believed in for a long, long time. It helped preserve my fighting spirit.

If I knew you better, I'm sure I could see some strengths in your character and your person. Often times, people who are exemplary in some area or field that people ignore, will fall depressed because they know they are gifted, but they can't understand why others can't see it.

Failing and being inadequate are parts of life. You must fail in order to get better, in order to grow. Depression is a vehicle to self-improvement.

When I say "Be yourself," it applies to people who are comfortable in their own skins. I feel comfortable in my skin because of the lifestyle I live. Constantly I have friends around me, working on art, hanging out, proofreading my next novel, drinking with, meeting people, going to art shows, I'm very social when I want to be. When I need my time alone, I can get that time alone. My company, Sicklove Studios, sells porn online and supports me while I write novels. I just put out my first novel:

http://cityofsingl.es

...and I've already slept with a bunch of the girls who read it, haha!

Anyways, enough of my own ego-stroking, you can see why I would probably enjoy my life, with or without a girlfriend!

Now, how do you envision a happy Pachan? What would you need to have? What can you reach soon?

First off, get your physical shape worked on. Right now I'm at about 13% bodyfat, and I'm on a fish and quinoa diet to get me down to about 10% so I can use my body to market books to women. I know I need to put in more effort if I want to reach my goals.

Having a good physical shape is like 90% of your confidence. You can make Walmart clothing look good if you're in shape. Even if your face is ugly, don't worry, men don't need to be handsome to get women.

Your style says so much about you. What represents Pachan? What do you want to show to the world through your clothing? These are keys to developing a style. I'm a pretty crazy sexually/socially liberal mofo, but I'm also quite conservative in other areas, oddly enough. This represents itself in the type of clothing I wear, and the general style I have.

Do you own any art at home? The books you read and the art on your walls will influence you, and those who hang out with you. Same with music!

What do you do for a living? Are you passionate about it? Being passionate about storytelling and writing draws women in like crazy. Oddly enough, the tables have turned and I feel that women see me as someone they want to just bang. I have to avoid them, otherwised I would be mired down in easy sex with skanks and never find a girl I actually respect.

Watering your garden and planting the right seeds, the plants will grow and the women will come to graze. When you are ready to reap your reward for such effort into your life, they will gladly follow you to your abattoir. This is what I mean by "being yourself."

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Title	Why spin plates when you can set the whole table?
Author	redtruthtelling
Upvotes	19
Comments	27
Date	February 23, 2013 10:04 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/193lt2/why_spin_plates_when_you_can_set_the_whole_table/
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