What is a "high number"? At what point would you say "She's slept around too much for an LTR"?

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Aldovar · 2014-04-25T17:15:28+00:00

I'm a fan of the cock tower theory - Number of dicks x 6 inches. If she fell from that height and gets seriously injured, then that's too much dick.

You could also try summing up the length of every dick she's had. That would be what I'd say in mixed company. Or you exaggerate and say 8 inches or feet, depends on what you want to filter for.

Wolfwoodd · 2014-04-23T16:08:43+00:00

I've said it once and I'll say it again. Learn to screen for relationship potential.. number of partners is not always an exceptionally good indicator of long-term relationship happiness.

Good Girls - Girls who are happy in relationships when their significant other is happy. These girls will tend to go out of their way to do nice things for their guys: cook, clean, give them gifts, play out their sexual fantasies, etc. They are the easiest type to maintain a long term relationship with because they make it fairly easy for the guy.

Freaks - Girls who are happy in relationships when they receive attention and strong emotional states. This is the type guys fall for the quickest, because they generally come off as very vulnerable. This type thrives on validation, both positive and negative. They cause a lot of drama, are more likely to cheat on you (sex is a form of validation), and usually have some form of daddy issues. These are also the type of women who tend to stay in abusive relationships. Guys, don’t get into serious relationships with these types of girls unless you really know what you’re doing. The way to make this work is for the guy to be able to inject a steady amount of drama into the relationship (or find some way to give her strong emotional states).

Hoes - Kind of self-explanatory. These girls are happiest when they are receiving material resources (money, gifts, etc) from guys. They are only interested in dating high-status guys or guys who show a willingness to buy them things. When you meet them, they will probably ask you about your job, what car you drive and/or where you live. They will relentlessly tool a guy over to get what they want. They’ll try to get you to pay for everything. The best way to have a long term relationship with a girl like this is to play the “pimp”. Don’t put up with any of that stuff.. Be clear that she’s going to have to pay for her crap if she wants any chance of seeing you. Be fine with her tooling over her orbiters or get her to tool over her orbiters for your benefit (I.e. send her up to the bar to get you free drinks from AFC‘s).

RED FLAGS (I HAVE PERSONALLY ENCOUNTERED)

History of drug abuse and or alcoholism
history of poor decision making (like a long line of douche bag ex-boyfriends)
seems to be in a constant state of crisis
history of depression (un-medicated or not good at keeping up with the medication) or has a mother who’s mentally ill
works as a stripper
unwillingness to give and/or receive oral sex (I.e. has sexual hang-ups)
history of past sexual abuse
thinks masturbation is gross (opinions may vary on this one)
Assumes you will pay for everything and/or disappears to the bathroom every time a check arrives.
No friends
Some form of obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD)
Bad relationship with her parents, especially her father
History of eating disorder (anorexia/bulimia)

FortunateBum · 2014-04-23T17:46:46+00:00

Every chick has fucked way too many guys than you will ever be comfortable with. Just accept it, don't talk about, move on with your life.

Cyralea · 2014-04-23T16:44:24+00:00

5-7. The flexibility is there in case they were all from committed relationships. If a chick can't get a relationship to last more than a few months, then why the fuck do you think you'll work out?

If her number is higher than that, then she's craving strange cock, and always will. Her desire for commitment in no way detracts from that. In North America, once she has obtained the resources from her partner she can walk away from the arrangement and keep half of the resources. This allows her to go back to her desire for more cock.

Recall the dualism of female mating strategy.

Invalidity · 2014-04-23T18:11:00+00:00

Instead of asking her for her count, ask her for her views on sex. What does she consider a sexual act? What are her limitations? What would be interesting places to have sex (instead of asking where she has had sex)?

Gauge her responses and see how they compare with each other. You can figure out a prude from a party girl.

Sleep-less · 2014-04-23T18:14:01+00:00

5 and over is too much. 4 is eh. 2-3 is the sweet spot. 0-1 is mythical status. BTW, I'm talking about women ages 18-25. Since those are the only ones that are relevant to me.

Tarnsman4Life · 2014-04-23T16:46:04+00:00

Age divided by 5, rounded down. +2 if they are under 30, +3 if they are under 25. Women never tell the truth about it though; I judges a womans number of likly partners based on 3 key factors. How attractive is she, how old is she and what were the circumstances leading up to me banging her. If she is 29, on the wall side of being an 8 and fucking me after I just met her in a Taco bell..odds are she has taken a lot of dick.

If she is 21 , a hard 9 and it was the third date before we fucked then odds are her count is lower. Also pay attention to how messed up she gets at the bar.

Air4ce1 · 2014-04-23T20:59:14+00:00

Haraklus · 2014-04-23T17:43:39+00:00

For a genuine LTR, I probably wouldn't accept anything above 4 or so. Preferably 2 or less.

About 1/4 of the women I've been with were virgins, and maybe another 1/4 had less than 4 partners. So these women aren't particularly scarce.

NeoBushi · 2014-04-23T17:05:38+00:00

You mean including the ones that "didn't count"?

GaiusScaevolus · 2014-04-23T19:58:57+00:00

2 for girls under 20. 5 for 20-22. After that they 'get' 1 for every 2 years until 30, at which point I don't care if she's a virgin, she's aged out of LTR territory.

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_Fony_ · 2014-04-23T16:22:38+00:00

at age 18-22 i'd say over 6 is out of the question. if she is 25 then 10. i don't mess with women older than that so whatever count an aging spinster has i don't care.

henry589 · 2014-04-23T18:02:55+00:00

If you have fucked more guys than the fingers on my hand through non relationships that is too much.

windycityman · 2014-04-23T19:40:11+00:00

Well for a 25 year old woman I can see 1 from high school, 2-3, 5 max from college. 2-3 post college. So that's 9 as the absolute max. I don't find it that unreasonable that you could have 5-6 longer term boyfriends in a 10 year span and I'll give her a couple rebound guys in between.

Obviously I'd like the number to be lower. But do you really have any confidence that an attractive woman you would want for a LTR would have really banged any less when every guy they know has been trying to fuck them their entire adult life?

Most girls will fail and have banged many more than 9 by age 25.

migukin · 2014-04-24T08:59:20+00:00

I agree with almost everything I read in this sub, but this post and all the responses are completely ridiculous to me. First and foremost, don't obsess over the number. Don't even ask. Let it go. It's either not what you want to hear, or you'll assume it's a lie.

Second, most of your responses are not only kidding yourselves, but utterly hypocritical. I get that men and women are different, but just because a girl has had some fun at some points (assuming she was single) doesn't make her an undatable whore. If asked, most of you more promiscuous guys would lie about your number. I know I do. So don't get your panties in a twist about the reciprocation. There's a line between being RedPill and blindly sexist.

Don't ask, don't tell, just let it go.

c00kme · 2014-04-23T16:57:28+00:00

max_num = age - 18;

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squarehead93 · 2014-04-23T16:06:26+00:00

I would say that anything above 10 is starting to push it. 20 is where I draw the line. For me it's not necessarily how many people she's slept with, but the nature of her sexual encounters. If most of her partners were one night stands, threesomes, etc, then I'm probably not interested. However if most of her partners were long-term boyfriends, then I really don't care about sexual history nearly as much.

Although people who prefer casual sex tend to rack up higher counts, I'd rather date someone with a higher partner count who has mostly had sex within a relationship (assuming they're not the serially monogamous type who's constantly dumping one guy to hop on another's dick), instead of someone with a lower count that consisted mostly of one night stands.

mr_throwz · 2014-04-23T20:21:06+00:00

Science says that more than 5 pre-marital partners dramatically (30%) increases the chance that she'll file for divorce or have an extramarital affair. So I would say more than 1 partner for every 3 years she'd older than 20 would be too much.

So for a 30 year old woman, anything above 3-4 partners.

Note that with the exception of my current lady, I don't date women over 25 anymore.

boredinclass2 · 2014-04-23T18:46:34+00:00

Related question: Does anybody have the feeling that sluts are better in bed? Or does it not make a difference?

Imupnthis · 2014-04-23T19:31:48+00:00

First question, are you taking her word for her number? Because women are always truthful and will tell you the truth about anything.

Almost_legit · 2014-04-23T19:45:31+00:00

10 is a high number for me.

[deleted] · 2014-04-23T20:36:48+00:00

It depends more on the recent pattern than the number i.e length of relationships, any cheating, etc. Best way to predict future behavior is using recent past behavior.

waynebradysworld · 2014-04-24T07:11:48+00:00

Gotta say, most of what I've seen her is good info. This thread seems a bit unrealistic.

Most hot girls that went to college have fucked alot more dudes than you are thinking. Under 10 after 4 years in college? Thats 2-3 per year.

Imagine if everytime you went out, you could take home mostly anyone you want. You only go out once per week. You try not to be slooty so when you meet someone you are curious about, you might put off sex for a month.

Even if it takes you 8 trips out to meet ONE person you would fuck, that still puts you at one guy per 3 months. 2 months to meet, 1 month to court. That makes 4 partners per year, 3 while in school and one summer fling.

All it would take is a crazy freshman and sophomore year or a somewhat conservative college career for a hot girl to EASILY get her number over 10.

The rule of three is correct. ya'll seem to think you are ok with around 5-7. that means you are really ok with 15-21..... think about it.

frequentnapper · 2014-04-24T08:56:24+00:00

doesn't matter. Just be STI and HIV free, and we're good.

[deleted] · 2014-04-24T09:00:20+00:00

There are so many delusional guys in this thread. Good fucking luck finding a girl who has fucked less than 4 guys. Better be marrying an 18 year old prude.

UrsusG · 2014-04-23T16:15:32+00:00

sheriffbigbywolf · 2014-04-23T20:36:20+00:00

slcjosh · 2014-04-23T20:50:18+00:00

Depends on her age, and how many of those partners were real relationships. If she sleeps with lots of men and none of them pan out to relationships, shes probably trash. If she has a partner count similar to how many relationships shes had, she could turn out to be ok.

duckducklandwhale · 2014-04-24T01:02:19+00:00

Depends on age but 20+ is personally high to me for a mid 20s chick. I feel like if she didnt start really fucking til like college or late highschool to be already in the 20s by 25 is a bit too fast even though we live in much more liberal society. This includes not only fucking but even if she just gave head. Im mad lenient though because I realize Im a whore myself if I wasnt and had more insecurity I'd prolly cap at 10

Teeth_of_Lions · 2014-04-24T01:09:24+00:00

Would I qualify a woman who I slept with on the first date for a LTR?

No.

Would I qualify a woman who made me wait for sex for three months, and after revealed that she slept with 40 men?

No.

Whatever retarded formula you are currently using to calculate her relationship worthiness to cock ratio, there are two things to keep in mind. One, do not trust what she tells you. And two, her past relationship behavior, sexual outlook, and the way she treats you will give her away.

edited for clarification

[deleted] · 2014-04-24T03:05:37+00:00

Here's my formula:

current age-18 = acceptable number of dicks for an LTR.

Edit: As always, add at least 10 to the N count she gives you if she has 0-few slut flags.

tallwheel · 2014-04-24T03:35:40+00:00

No more than the number of LTR's she's had - all of which should have lasted for at least 3 months, and should not total more than 5 or 6, regardless of age.

LaRazaBlanca · 2014-04-24T03:53:31+00:00

For me, i feel its relative, so i use percentages instead of absolute numbers, if she's put out for more than 10% of my number, I pretty much discount her for LTR... But women lie far too well, so triple anything she tells you..

[deleted] · 2014-04-24T06:27:41+00:00

I know pre-selection probably works in my favor, but my number is triple digits, the leading digit being a 2 (I'm 30) so not sure I can quite so quickly rule out a girl for an LTR based purely on a number.

That being said, I do subscribe to the neurochemistry of pair-bonding, sex and sluts -

The "honeymoon period" literally referred to newlyweds newly fucking and having that pair-bonding neurochemistry chemical firing across their neurons.

A chick who has ridden the carousel a lot has had her brain flooded with oxytocin with a lot of different guys, diminishing the strength of those patterns over time. In fact, from an LTR perspective you're far better off to date a woman who's taken cock 100 times from 5 different guys, than one who's had 50 one night stands.

That being said if shes a solid 8+, date her. But you're going to need game, frame and alpha fucking all the more so to keep her.

TL;DR: As a chicks number goes up, you can still LTR her, but your game needs to be tighter to keep her.

UrNameIsToby · 2014-04-24T06:51:02+00:00

Don't care. All I care about is whether she's clean or has kids.

[deleted] · 2014-04-24T07:52:29+00:00

That's a simple answer, as many as you think is unacceptable. It could be 2 it could be 200. It Really depends on what you're willing to tolerate as a number. Keep in mind however, there is no vagifax, you have no way of verifying reliably the actual count. What you should be more concerned about is their personality and behavior. Remember also, past performance predicts future behavior.

herewegoaga1n · 2014-04-24T10:18:52+00:00

herewegoaga1n · 2014-04-24T10:30:27+00:00

(Age - 18) +2= x. Anything less than that is preferable to more which increases the likelihood of STD/Is.

Beardsman2 · 2014-04-24T12:47:10+00:00

I'd consider 3 and under. Age doesn't matter.

4 or over I'd just fuck and chuck.

emotionalgoldmine · 2014-04-23T19:23:27+00:00

One. I'm only marrying a virgin. I wouldn't marry a girl who's been with other guys because she will subconsciously compare me to them, even if she doesn't want to. What if she starts missing one of her ex boyfriends? Not good for our relationship. Virgins won't have emotional baggage.

lokibali · 2014-04-24T01:26:27+00:00

More than 0 and I am out

PlusGoody · 2014-04-23T23:32:02+00:00

Zero to four. Five or more is a slut or someone with no LTR relationship skills, each of which is a killer.

Aerobus · 2014-04-23T23:37:53+00:00

Double digits is too high. I'd say <5

I'm an anomaly though. I'd only actually marriage a virgin.

Title	What is a "high number"? At what point would you say "She's slept around too much for an LTR"?
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Date	April 23, 2014 3:56 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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