Crosspost from PPD: CMV - Every attractive young woman will have an OnlyFans account by 2030 and be entirely undateable

max_peenor · 2020-09-09T15:23:19+00:00

The women responding in that post are so predictable: 'fault', 'hate' and ad hominem. They go nuts when you restrict their options, even if the option is spreading their legs for cash. These are the same women that support 'sex work' but find any man that patronize it repulsive, even if they say it should be legal through their grinding teeth. Too funny.

There was a time on PPD where you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a thread talking about prostitution. The real interesting ones relevant to this conversation were those that asked women if they could 'date' (what a retarded word) men that had seen prostitution. The overwhelming majority said no.

And then these cupcakes get offended when men would reject ex-hookers.

It is an interesting conversation, but ultimately it comes down to one thing: intersexual dynamics are not about promoting and optimizing equity between the sexes. It's about who gains advantage and uses it. You can pretend you don't want to play this game, but you have no choice.

Shieldless_One · 2020-09-09T17:17:09+00:00

On a side note I think the growth of onlythots and thot culture is redpilling a lot of men, either online or naturally.

GayLubeOil · 2020-09-09T18:13:07+00:00

I'd be careful of taking a trend and extrapolating it out way too much. Things have a way of counterbalancing themselves. Only Fans is already a meme and as such it's generating a reactionary counter push.

I think over time only fans is going to morph into something completely different if it survives at all. Reddit started off as one thing and now it's a completely different dynamic.

UEMcGill · 2020-09-09T17:45:52+00:00

Interesting thought experiment but to me it seems to miss out on a some fundamental economics. No business segment survives with essentially no barrier to entry and unlimited supply. Commoditization will make it a buyers market eventually and you'll end up seeing subscription based service etc. Hell they have an all you can fuck Brothel in Germany. Supply will push market prices down, make no mistake. That'll also serve as a barrier to entry to many potential "suppliers" as the opportunity cost will out weight any benefits of side hustling titty-cams.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Men with low skill sets and low economic value sell their bodies doing hard manual labor. They work in coal mines, or slinging shingles on roofs or any myriad of low skill back braking work. Women sold their soul to the devil of "diversity and equality" and now they're seeing the rewards. Prostitution was always their option to sell their bodies. Now you're seeing market diversification. It's just another way for a low skill, low value woman to sell her body.

It used to be a woman's value was mostly related to her ability to provide children. Feminism has changed the outlook on that and here we are. So women whose best bet would have been to produce some crotch fruit are out of a viable place to market their assets.

The upside should be pretty clear. It will continue to be a buyers market if you are a high value man. Feminism was always a response about price control. Feminists wanted 'deregulation' of the market so that they could set the prices according to their best interests. Instead what's happened is like any deregulated market you're seeing a proliferation of options and different market conditions. And just like airlines chase high value customers like business travelers with perks and benefits you'll see high value women attempt to differentiate themselves to keep attracting high value men.

No worries gents. Enjoy the decline. If you know what you are doing it makes no difference whether it's a bull market or a bear market. People like the op from PPD are crying about a market bubble or maybe we should be Marxists with pussy. Meanwhile those that have swallowed the Redpill are Hedge fund managers who profit in any market.

redpillschool · 2020-09-09T15:07:48+00:00

I think this is an interesting topic- mainly because I am highly interested in sexual economic factors and futures.

It's clear that the internet, and the advent of the iPhone has changed the sexual landscape forever.

Online dating has had an effect as well, but not nearly as much as the validation machine of Facebook and Instagram.

So what does our future look like in the world of Onlyfans?

I am aware of a growing number of sexless 20-somethings that would have normally had at least one or two girlfriends but are instead virgins with no hope.

Women's attitudes in public have gotten visibly worse from what I've seen. Is the validation machine separating women from reality? What will men's options be? What is the future for men?

I think the poster gets it wrong. They don't become un-datable because they're "used" goods. They become undatable because the alpha widow principle.

No man competes with all men. Being exposed to the fact that her skin flaps can bring in $3k a week, there's little to no reason she's going to have her head below the clouds. She will believe the golden vagina can demand not only top dollar, but top talent.

CraziDiamond · 2020-09-09T17:03:51+00:00

I think every woman flicking her bean on cam is bit of a stretch. Let's use the same template for sugar babies. It is easy and rewarding but you don't see every woman wanting a sugar daddy. But some of the entitlement will seep into their mindset.

This will definitely usher in new and improved version of IAMASTRONGWOMAN

Domebeers · 2020-09-09T17:25:59+00:00

my dudes, they all have them now. Try 2021, not 2030, LMAO.

I have a smoke show 18 year old on staff. She tells me her friends have these sights, and that's what they do for work.

What's sad about it, besides everything, is that the more girls pour in to these sights, the less desirable they will be, as there will be more competition. The hottest girls globally will get all the attention and money, and local chicks will be forced to rely on people they know in real life to sponsor them. Fucking whores lol.

_do_not_read_this_ · 2020-09-09T15:17:15+00:00

Executive summary for us oldsters who don't know what "onlyfans" is used for and why I should care.

apjfqw · 2020-09-09T18:22:53+00:00

I cant believe are paying for this, when there is already so much free porn on the internet.

Nihilisticmdphdstdnt · 2020-09-09T17:23:32+00:00

Pimps used to take 80% and give their hoe 20%.

OF gives their hoe 80% and the pimp keeps 20%. And the hoes don't even need to put out.

I'm not sure what the solution to the problem is.

Woujo · 2020-09-10T03:38:15+00:00

> My prediction is that by 2030, practically every attractive young Western woman will have an OnlyFans and be completely undateable as a result.

This is wrong for many reasons, but a main reason is that it is not economically viable. Sex work has historically been financially lucrative because the social costs were so high. In return for making higher than average money, hookers would endure humiliation, ostracism, and the foreclosure of other economic opportunities in the mainstream world. As the social costs decrease and more girls get into sex work, the financial opportunities dwindle: it is simple supply and demand. A lot of guys are willing to pay money for OF, but the demand is not infinite; at some point when the supply gets too great the financial rewards will drop dramatically. My guess is that only a small percentage of girls on OF are making real money and even that is inconsistent and requires lots of hard work to keep up.

The same thing happened in porn. The vast majority of "porn stars" cannot support themselves doing porn: there just isn't enough work, partly because demand is limited. The rest of the girls have to escort on the side or get real jobs like bartending and waitressing.

Here is an interesting twist that nobody wants to talk about: One of the social costs to being a hooker in the past was the fact that you would lose the opportunity to date a decent guy because decent guys would not date hookers. That social cost is almost gone now not because decent guys want to date hookers, but because there are almost no decent guys left in society. In modern society, a small percentage of "alpha males" fucks like 90% of the women, and the rest of the men slip deeper and deeper into being unattractive, needy, betas. It has become so bad that most attractive women in modern society have an almost 0% chance of finding a reliable, attractive "alpha" male who will commit to them, so why NOT become a hooker?

Groundbreaking-Owl94 · 2020-09-09T15:15:25+00:00

Dont date these women or women with a kid from another man.

https://youtu.be/Fa-UP9PpJqw

YogiTy1988 · 2020-09-09T17:28:38+00:00

When the simps out number red pilled men along with nofappers and semen retention guys, they’ll make money. Simple as that.

muff_marauder · 2020-09-09T17:40:17+00:00

I'm an economist and supporter of free-markets. Due to the fact that free-market capitalism in the West has largely dissolved into crony capitalism, there are fewer jobs for all, and you've got to get your money where you can now.

As long as these young women are aware of the short-term risks (rape by stalker, doxxing, immediate firing from work upon discovery, family issues) and the long-term risks (eventual firing from work, becoming a pariah, dating issues)... who cares?

Sex work is work too and can be a good choice for large income, even when all risks are counted. For example, is OF soft-prostitution really any more devastating to young American women than joining the Army or Marines is to a young American man? Even if he doesn't go to war, that young military man is going to have horrible knee problems for life starting around 35.

As the USA burdens its economy further and further with relatively high minimum wage and regulations, good jobs will continue to disappear. The sex industry should be broadened and optimally regulated so more people (women and men) can make a decent living.

Appex1 · 2020-09-09T16:59:05+00:00

If I were a woman, I would be doing the same thing.

Merica911 · 2020-09-10T02:15:39+00:00

And if they do, they're only playing Checkers not Chess.

Onlyfans account. OK yeah they'll get their $4.99 per month months per subscriber and I'm sure we fees it's less than that. And let's say they are making $3k to $7k a month for your avg thot, why won't she rather get married to alpha Chad living in half million house etc?

Onlyfans is just Bypassing pornhub pay wall. Don't get it twisted

whatsthisgarg · 2020-09-09T21:02:16+00:00

Women are already undateable

xeq937 · 2020-09-09T19:43:20+00:00

No, it will reach a saturation point where the fan base wears out and the whole thing quits. People talk, it'll get old and unfashionable overnight at some point. Attractive young women are already nearly 100% undateable, we're already there.

RealJoeDee · 2020-09-10T00:58:27+00:00

I see two reasons that won't occur:

There is a growing undercurrent of conservative values starting to take root in the younger generation as that's the new rebelling against (leftist) authority. This is starting to cause the pendulum to swing back to the right making "good girls" fashionable again.

Remember, people are stupid and we see women jumping on bandwagons when guys are the trailblazers making something safe and comfortable mainstream. Gaming is a good example of this. For decades guys who gamed were denigrated as losers, but eventually it became mainstream and suddenly women flocked to it (and now dominate it, not in skill, but in attention and validation). Mark my words we're going to see the same thing with conservative values & politics. Hell, we already have a term for the ones who do: ConservaThots.

Okay, I lied. I only have the one reason we won't see 100% of them with an Onlyfans.

scissor_me_timbers00 · 2020-09-10T05:37:36+00:00

PURE WEIMAR

At some point the origins of patriarchy will have to be reinvented where you get stoned or some Old Testament shit if you go out thotting.

2020-09-20T11:57:00+00:00

Western society in 2020 makes me wonder if Islamic societies are onto something by restricting social mixing between the genders.

2020-09-09T22:53:52+00:00

Onlyfans suffers from the same problems we all do - competition and variety.

Female Competition is extremely fierce in that space and humans have a funny way of growing bored with what was once novelty. Only those at the top will be able to make great money.

Computer screens will further dehumanize and commoditized sex workers, so they will feel mistreated and disrespected constantly, and they will be cast aside in favor of newer content or when customers look for whoever is the hottest and newest product on the market.

Hottest product on the market...Good god...and that last line is what women nowadays are fighting for.

pig_tickler · 2020-09-13T15:40:17+00:00

But what happens when the market becomes flooded with supply?

In the late nineties, you would have to pay $10-20 per month for access to non-pixelated pictures of naked women. One DVD would cost a similar amount. Then PornHub came along and put them all out of business.

If there are half a billion “amateur” porn stars in the market at any time, many of them would surely have to resort to catering to obscure or extreme tastes in order to remain competitive. I think the days of earning $3k a week are probably numbered for all but a select few.

I wonder, if women had any self awareness, at what point they would ask themselves if a life of lying in front of a webcam with a 12 inch vibrator stuck up their pussy (whilst making occasional trips outside the home to allow middle aged men to ejaculate on their feet) is really a better alternative to being a stay at home mom and raising a family.

Unfortunately for women, their myopia doesn’t allow them to see beyond the promise of a new luxury handbag TODAY instead of a lifetime of comfort and dignity.

The other big question to arise is what happens when they hit the wall? Where’s their retirement plan? Ain’t no pension or 401k for masturbating on camera.

2020-09-17T02:52:56+00:00

Cant see it, the women in my community that are known to operate on only fans are shunned.

They all share the common trend that were already known to be sexually promiscuous before the app was around.

Maybe its different in the US where all of the elements regarding this are in a more progressed state.

Kuroslav007 · 2020-09-18T09:46:25+00:00

Ok. Why would any man support the degenerated whores? And their online channels? If you need sex, just prostitutionmaxx. Do not date them, do not marry them.

Amon35 · 2020-09-09T17:27:12+00:00

Every attractive chick opening an onlyfans account seems realistic. However the problem with this theory is the dudes that pays this chicks has no discipline therefore majority of them will be jobless by that time. We can say fresh blood will take their place but when I look at the new generation of men I have doubts about it.

Top tier chicks can get some stuff or become sugar babies but every attractive chick making bank seems unrealistic. At that time most of them might realize the fact that "once on the internet, always on the internet" and back pedal on onlyfans.

In order to secure a provider they might avoid it. Considering the fact that we have betas that fear the idea of marriage might become a deterrant too. Time will tell I guess :/

arakouzo · 2020-09-09T19:31:28+00:00

Making money on the internet is hard. Most women, even hot ones, don't just get lots of money and free shit for posting pics and chatting on the internet.

If a whole bunch of women did this, a tiny fraction of them would make any money, and the other 99 percent would be like those 50 year old former housewives who play at being a realtor and selling makeup or nutritional supplement ponzi schemes but don't actually make any money or have a job.

Beej67 · 2020-09-09T20:23:06+00:00

I'm of the impression that sugar baby websites are much more highly trafficked, and are probably on net much more damaging to the traditional relationship model, than onlyfans.

I'd like to see some traffic and user comparison statistics on that.

The other thing that we'll likely see that will crater onlyfans, is an influx of third world onlyfans accounts. If an American white woman can make $20k at it in a year, that's not much. If a Filipino lady in Manila can make the same, she can buy a house. And they're less likely to be fat. Virtual sex is infinitely more outsource-able than even most other tech related jobs.

derpitaway · 2020-09-10T04:00:28+00:00

I think we’ll see a major pull back. When the first girls start hitting the wall and the internet has kept record. High value dudes won’t settle for that shit and it will be a pendulum swing of over conservatives high females. The rest a whore fest.

Liesymmetrymanifold · 2020-09-10T04:06:25+00:00

Onlyfans is the new McDonalds job.

George_Rockwell · 2020-09-10T05:11:44+00:00

The most recent historical example of women turning to prostitution en mass is Weimar Germany. Surely this will end well for us, right?

assa_ssin · 2020-09-10T12:33:38+00:00

Free market is always true. Let the hustlers hustle.

Mgtow_troaway · 2020-09-10T16:03:30+00:00

undateable? You mean there's gonna be a spike in blue pillers posting "my wife of 10 years revealed to me she had an onlyfans as a teenager, and I don't know how to feel about it" posts on relationship_advice. Theyll get shamed into submission, move on, and mask the pain with beekeeping or some other stupid cope.

theredsperg · 2020-09-14T13:46:11+00:00

imo, women have always sold sex, this is just another evolution

TricksterOfFate · 2020-09-15T03:36:16+00:00

By 2030 most girls will be escort. They will charge their simps 5000 the hour, while also making cash on onlyfans for the simps that cannot pay. Just imagine if bell Delphine was an escort, she could charge her simps 100000 the hour.

vulgar_display_ · 2020-09-09T22:29:43+00:00

Let’s hope it doesn’t go so far. The girls with large OF followings are only fucking those guys though — that’s for certain.

To elaborate on my earlier comment, I still think a larger majority of females will not be on OF, even in 2030. There’s a lot of girls who are 7+’s who aren’t that outwardly sexual. They might dress hot, they might have great bodies, etc. They might even have high sex drives. But they do have high enough self-esteem to not expose themselves to any slovering male on the internet for money. For a career.

I’ve been with a lot of them myself. You know, those cute girls with nice figures and clothes that flatter them, but who maintain a somewhat “innocent” front — they won’t sleep with a guy consistently till he cuffs her, etc.

Granted, it is 2020, and I think by the year 2030 OF will become main strain enough as to where a solid 35 percent of hot girls will have made or considered making an OF. And that’s no small number. BP guys are pretty fucked.

Cptn_Jib · 2020-09-09T16:57:41+00:00

Such a dumb post, women who wouldn't go into porn wont make an only fans, and there are plenty of women who wouldn't. It's free to make an only fans, why haven't all the women I know made one already? Because they won't, ever.

jojojijo333 · 2020-09-09T17:08:19+00:00

I call bullshit.

First of all -- if there will be a decline in population growth or a huge risk factor for "rapidly aging population" government forces will intervene. They found a way to ban tic-tok, they "banned" porn in Russia (still highly accessible, but a bit more taboo) and they will ban onlyfans if needed. No government wants a population filled with old folks, thots and betas.

Second of all -- the rapid depression growth. We are already noticing a huge amount of folks who are battling with the internet addiction. Communities like NoFap, RedPill etc are gathering together to fight "with Evil". It is well known that where there is demand there will always be supply, but what if there IS NO DEMAND? I, for one, have an optimistic view of men getting there shit together and not paying thots on the internet. OnlyFans blew up quickly, it's going to shut down even faster.

Point three -- increase in competition. When youtube first started it was quite easy to become a blogger. All you had to do is have a camera and film some interesting shit. No editing, no back ground music, not even talent was needed. It was new, it was empty, it was easy to succeed. However, as time went by, more and more people became bloggers and the amount of content is just ridiculous. There is no way in hell you can become a successful youtuber with out having a nice set of equipment ($$$), a GREAT new idea/ or an OUTSTANDING personality, and a good manager (yup, random youtubers don't blow up randomly). Same thing awaits onlyfans. ATM its quite easy to become a highly paid thot, by the time 2030 arrives -- it will be nearly impossible for an HB 8/10 and lower to get a place at the onlyfans money well.

As all things -- onlyfans will rise and it will fall. Its just a matter of time. But for now, enjoy the decline, while these dumb fucks pay up for nudes (i mean lmao idiots the internet is filled with porn why you paying for this shit plz explain somebody) you have an opportunity to save up money, invest it, and bang some hot ass milfs when they are done gathering money from their young age.

One more thing -- keep in mind that times change. A few hundred years ago it was unthinkable for a respected woman to show her naked legs to a man that is not her husband. Now -- we think of muslims covering their wifes as "barbaric". As time goes, people will indulge in the sexual stuff and it will be normalized. Is it bad? Idk. My grand father would never marry a non-virgin woman. Today -- we are okay with a girl having less than 3 partners and think its kinda weird to be a virgin at 21+. Humanity standards will change. Don't be dramatic. Enjoy life right now -- there is only one of it

Overkillengine · 2020-09-10T00:10:29+00:00

Nothing changed except there be evidence of it online to find out in advance instead of having to find it out other ways.

Illoyonex · 2020-09-10T02:45:00+00:00

It doesn't matter if they're undatable, because I'll only be having sex with them and dispose of them after that, and look for the next pretty one. That's the kinda life I want to lead.

Attract, seduce, fuck, dump, next.

BlackFire68 · 2020-09-10T03:00:48+00:00

Good. I mean, they are pretty much undateable now

HorvathRed · 2020-09-11T00:57:48+00:00

So, what is the point of this post? Speculating about the future seems really counter to this sub's purpose. When and if this time really comes, we'll start debating the most adequate, red-pilled sexual strategy to get this over-validated poon. There's plenty to focus on the now.

throwaway69764 · 2020-09-09T17:29:22+00:00

This is honestly the thing I struggle with the most. The entire world is going to shit morally, and with the decay of moral values, instability and violent crisis will likely follow (we can already see it with the ~~anarchist riots~~ mostly peaceful protests). I know I'm not supposed to care how other people live their lives, but if I suddenly were appointed dictator of the world I would prohibit all of this degeneracy at once. It's starting to take a toll on my mental health seeing the world's moral standards fall into flames. How can I train myself to give less fucks about this?

2020-09-09T23:27:46+00:00

Only the undateable ones will have OnlyFans.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2020-09-25T03:16:05+00:00

All the more reason to stay in your own frame and fuck all this bullshit.

Does a guy fall into 'how does this affect the SMP?' and 'women be doing this that the other, so now I need to redevelop my strategy to account for all of this'?

Or does he say 'I literally don't give a shit'?

Who cares? Seriously, if you're a high value male with his head on straight, who gives a shit what the masses of thots are doing? Shit like OF is playground, retardo retarded shit for the morons on both sides.

Better shit to do and focus on if you're a man of value with anything of importance in his life.

the_zipline_champion · 2020-09-09T17:29:02+00:00

Soon women will be turned on by the sound of a cash register going 'kerching'

Title	Crosspost from PPD: CMV - Every attractive young woman will have an OnlyFans account by 2030 and be entirely undateable
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Date	September 9, 2020 3:04 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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