If what everything TRP/MRP says is true. How aren't 100% of married women cheating on their husbands who don't have this information?

zeteomegaleio · 2017-08-31T23:39:27+00:00

I think TRP is mostly full of younger guys who are in their 20s and enjoy banging chicks left and right (god bless them). I don't think many of them have the kinds of life experience people here do. Around here I see business owners, successful men, fathers - people who have done some real living and went through the real pain that comes along with it. So I wouldn't take the TRP guys' word as the gospel.

Things are more complex than a bunch of bros parroting how every woman will cheat given the chance.

Hypergamy IS real. However, women are also human beings with the ability to think. They aren't all mindless idiots who constantly do nothing but look for the man with the biggest muscles and most money and immediately spread their legs. Most of them who also have any kind of life experience beyond the college/20s slut also has goals and the ability to forecast and think about the future based on present actions. They make the same kinds of choices that men do about giving in for short-term satisfaction vs. having discipline to achieve bigger goals. Men are better at that, but that's not the argument here. Simply that women CAN make choices and rationalize in their own ways about what to do or not.

So will 100% of women cheat if given the opportunity? They COULD. Let's say you're a fucking awesome alpha. She runs into another awesome alpha at the store who has slightly bigger muscles than you, but everything else the same. Does she drop her entire life with you to fuck this guy? No - there is nothing to be gained in the long term from this. But she COULD.

Now, if you're a fucking beta loser who she doesn't respect, have been a loser for 8 years, and suddenly Chad gets hired to be in the same division as she is at her office job? Just watch how often she starts going out after work 'with the work gang', or, damnit, she just has to work late again because that mean old boss is so unfair and makes her do everything!

That goes beyond hypergamy - I would say it is human, because a man sure as shit wouldn't put up with that if the roles were reversed either. The main difference boils down to women being the hunted, and so they have their pick, whereas men are the hunters.

Hypergamy is based on long-term goals for the woman: I need safety, security, and a man who can provide me with strong genes for our babies. But morals, values, pledges, a person's history, mental illness, and the fact that every situation is different all play into whether a woman will cheat or not. Not everyone does or will cheat. But women are built to scan for the best available mate and THEY do the choosing in that regard thanks to hypergamy, and therefore they are effectively built to constantly be on the lookout for a great opportunity TO cheat unless you give them enough reason not to.

matrixtospartanatLV · 2017-09-01T00:30:54+00:00

I think you're looking for more than a challenge to this praxeology.

I think you are worried you might do ALL THIS WORK, and then she might cheat on you anyway.

I think you are looking for a guarantee, or at least a more than reasonable expectation that IF you do THIS, THEN she won't do THAT.

I think your frame is weak, your hamster is strong, and you are fearful of your wife cheating on you.

I think you need to embrace and INTERNALIZE the sidebar, continue to develop your frame as a result, and come to the knowledge that if your wife leaves you, you WILL do better.

I think you need to read more, and study this shit like your future depends on it, because it does.

But then, that's just what I think.

screechhater · 2017-08-31T23:10:52+00:00

ya, I don't see every single woman cheating, but......

I do see how my wife's co worker, that weighs 300 + pounds, wife getting frustrated that he just won't take care of himself and she hits on me every time I am at their house. I am getting the "fuck me vibes" and so is another friend (both of us a re fit and take care of ourselves)

We are seeing a n uptick in shitty habits and attitudes with fat assed cheat oh eating, game playing fucks telling us, their wives love them for how they are with their "man buns" and skinny jeans with fat rolls hanging over. Not to mention some of these women are having kids with these man/boys and now have the children and the man/boy to raise.

You tell me the odds of women stating they have had enough and falling for a man and cheating or moving on......

simbarlion · 2017-08-31T23:51:20+00:00

maybe factor in that this is the internet where you tend to get the best and worst...

MRP is mostly about the man you should be. I agree the concept of it requiring 'constant work' is hard to comprehend. Why the fuck shouldn't she work hard so men don't cheat.... oh yeah, they do.... if they value you enough

chachaChad · 2017-08-31T23:34:11+00:00

It’s not that they all do it all the but that they all have the potential to do it. Act like weak little beta and you increase the chances. Be a chad and decease the chances.

Westernhagen · 2017-08-31T23:59:44+00:00

Very religious women, women who were raised better, where cheated on and really hurt from it etc. that won't cheat no matter what.

Oh yes they will.

askmeanything2 · 2017-09-01T00:52:44+00:00

Ask yourself this question: why aren't 100% of single women aged 18-30 not banging almost every night? Since with tinder, clubs etc. they could. Yet millenial sex rates are down.

Well who is the #1 expert on the red pill? What might he think?

https://therationalmale.com/2011/10/04/women-sex/

A healthy male produces between 12 to 17 times the amount of testosterone a woman does. It is a biological impossibility for a woman to want sex as much as, or as often as men. Trust me, when a woman says, “I don’t understand why sex is so important to guys” she’s speaking the literal truth.

So if everything TRP/MRP says is true, then women are not the same as men

Rian_Stone · 2017-09-01T12:44:06+00:00

My girl doesn't cheat because I keep her locked in the basement with a chastity belt on.

Thomaskingo · 2017-09-01T21:37:48+00:00

Why should 100 % be cheating in ordet for MRP-knowledge to be true?

straius · 2017-09-01T16:25:12+00:00

These are all generalities and if you take it literally you're just gonna fuck yourself up in a different way.

Yes AWALT. But AWALT is always in the form of degrees whenever you're talking about a specific aspect or specific person.

Just like personality science, you have to separate the theory which works at the macro level of populations and the individual.

Just because at some level a person (or a woman) is capable of something, doesn't mean that they WILL.

The specific context of your woman's personality, history and health of the relationship among a number of other factors supersede any generalized theory or rule and if you lose sight of that, you will just be confused in other ways.

The theory is all accurate and it provides an excellent frame to analyze behaviors, but you have to figure out which areas your woman fits to a T and in which ways she deviates from the standard theory because people are far more complex and dynamic than the praxeology itself.

alphabeta49 · 2017-09-01T17:20:42+00:00

Jagged pill scratching your throat going down?

We say AWALT because all women have the capacity to cheat. Through life experiences or morals or whatever, some decide not to, but that doesn't mean they aren't women and aren't seduced by the same traits that other women are. Namely, alpha traits.

Let this mindfuck you even more: I've got a handful of examples from girls I've known who have cheated on their alpha boyfriends because beta billy offered his care and concern. You can never lock someone down. Even with your wife, it's just your turn. You want your turn to last all your life, but there's no promise of that.

I think u/matrixblahblahblah nailed it. This isn't a theoretical post. You've got some deep insecurity.

I promise you: the less you care about her cheating and instead just focus on improving yourself, the less likely she is to cheat. But you shouldn't improve so that she won't cheat. You see how your entire world revolves around her still? That must stop.

BluepillProfessor · 2017-09-02T15:58:00+00:00

over at TRP sub it seems they all believe that every women WILL cheat given the chance of a better option.

I don't see this. I see example after example of women who have cheated and fucked over men but nobody (who knew what they were talking about) ever said "all."

MRP is life on hard mode how aren't 100% of women cheating on men who don't have this information.

The majority of marriages end in divorce. Nothing is ever 100%. Our objection to marriage is not that you are 100% guaranteed to be fucked over but that the percentage is WAY to high to justify the risk.

OF COURSE there are happy marriages. OF COURSE there are women who turn down Chad and return to their Beta husbands.

AWALT doesn't mean that all women are EXACTLY like that. Only that they are LIKE that. Women are hypergamous. They ALWAYS look for a better deal but that doesn't mean they jump ship at the first opportunity.

jcrpta · 2017-09-02T17:15:30+00:00

Most RP works paint a very black and white picture of the world.

As you've worked out, the world isn't quite like that. There are shades of grey everywhere; in reality, life is a statistics game. Work on your body and personality, your chances of keeping a woman interested go up. Neglect it, and those chances go back down. Regardless of what you're doing, there are always other men out there who don't care whether or not a woman is married or in a relationship, if she's prepared to offer a hole he's prepared to fill it - so you've also got probabilities going on there. Likelihood of her meeting another man, likelihood of that man being interested, likelihood of her reciprocating.

This is why you're warned that despite your best efforts, they may yet come to nothing. All the working out and all the re-thinking how you approach life in all the world can only tilt things in your favour, it cannot give you a guarantee. You want a guarantee, buy a toaster.

So, why the black and white picture? Simple. When putting these ideas in writing - and keeping it approachable for the noobs - it is necessary to simplify things to get the message across.

Sepean · 2017-09-01T05:08:32+00:00

RP doesn't say every woman with a beta cheats. RP doesn't say every man without RP knowledge is a beta.

If you're here to make straw man arguments, concern troll, or question our praxeology, just leave. You're not welcome. This place is about men helping men refind their masculinity, and that's all we'll help you with.

Title	If what everything TRP/MRP says is true. How aren't 100% of married women cheating on their husbands who don't have this information?
Author	beta-to-boss
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Date	August 31, 2017 11:02 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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