Physically handsome guys. Do you notice girls are more friendly/assertive to your less attractive friends than you? Or do they throw themselves at you like people would think?

jackandjill22 · 2019-02-10T12:46:30+00:00

they're just too intimidated by me to approach

Idk man, I might be completely wrong but I have a feeling you might not have a good idea of who is actually the most attractive in your group.

TheGoldenLeprechaun · 2019-02-10T15:26:39+00:00

How to know;

They will:

eye fuck you while having bullshit conversations with your uglier friends.
try and shit test you to get your attention during group conversations.
attempt to play match maker and get your info.
conveniently find themselves in isolated one on one situations with you.

Alternatives. You are actually delusional and ugly af, maybe average at best. Or you look like a super model in which case, yeah most will be intimidated and it's best to approach the one u want first so your friends don't feel like shit when the game is on.

FuckboyAWALT · 2019-02-10T08:31:23+00:00

Start smiling more.

But yeah sometimes girls are too intimidated by your presence. However once they sense you are interesting and not dangerous, they will leave your less attractive friends and throw themselves at you.

asdffdsa90 · 2019-02-10T11:36:18+00:00

I went from slightly fat but looking well to 8% jacked with 8 pack (yes steroids) and I can tell you it doesn't matter if you don't show confidence. Nothing will change if you do not approach girls. If you are still shy and have a hard time making strong eye contact girls wills sense there is something wrong

TheTastelessBatman · 2019-02-10T11:31:47+00:00

Yup. I get ignored all the time lol. Even my balding mate gets more attention than me. Apparently, even my employees say that I look very scary to approach since I naturally have a "serious, don't fuck with me" face.

The only time when girls hit on me is when we are in a group hangout and I tend to crack jokes, tease and smile. Or when I am smiling at a joke my mate cracked and am just looking about the club while smiling. I guess we need to smile more often?

jbpostv · 2019-02-10T14:16:58+00:00

I notice that most girls are actually rather nervous to talk to me and I think it comes from this place of not being sure I would approve of them because of my looks. I also have testing hard ass face which girls consider hot but unapproachable and unfriendly. I fix it by being more friendly in conversations than I assume is necessary because if not I’d be rude af. I feel like they’re more friendly to my less attractive friends because they definitely do not see me as a friend, just like you’d blush and be intimidated by a hot girl.

OfficerWade · 2019-02-10T09:39:37+00:00

They call me the better looking one. But I’ve heard from women it makes them less likely to approach me because I’m probably doing pretty well for myself without their help. Go figure.

ChadTheWaiter100 · 2019-02-10T09:49:04+00:00

I'm good looking and smile a lot, as I've aged my confidence is rock solid, women never give me any trouble now.

Except sometimes when I'm hanging out with my super low SMV friends, then I have a pretty hard time aha

trp369 · 2019-02-10T09:16:16+00:00

No not really. The only consistent time a girl isn’t very nice to me is when they are pretty ugly. For some reason ugly girls have started full on hating me since I improved my attractiveness.

Other than that if I go out in my group not to sound full of myself but if we’re all walking through a club the girls will be making eye contact with me, every hour or so in the club a girl will just stare at me and come imitate conversation or just grab me. This wouldn’t happen to guys less attractive even in their dreams

Auphor_Phaksache · 2019-02-10T09:37:03+00:00

Yes I get ignored. Whats more annoying are people who think because I'm in their vicinity I should automatically speak to them. I'll take the ignores.

Whisper · 2019-02-10T19:54:26+00:00

Good looks are only a force multiplier on game. If you have no game, then zero times anything is zero.

thechadyouwannabe · 2019-02-10T12:02:38+00:00

Nah that doesn’t happen to me, maybe your friends aren’t as “low SMV” as you think they are, or you need to be better at socializing.

AshyLarry27 · 2019-02-10T15:54:26+00:00

Just because women tend to want to "aim higher" when dating/fucking, doesn't mean they just throw themselves at your because you look like Ryan Reynolds or Gosling. I've noticed when I am more social, but reserved in my "approval" of girls, they will talk to me.

Part of it is indeed how you are perceived. If you have good looks, but you look serious or just socially awkward, you're nothing to them. You have to realize looks are not your SMV, the WHOLE PACKAGE of you is your SMV. Revisit a lot of these moments in your head. Did you ever START a conversation, or did you feel entitled to their attention because "look at me, I am hot meat."? Do you hold frame? Are you natural in your conversations or overthinking ways to "be and sound alpha."? Good looks won't overcome any of these issues unless you want to take home 2's and 3's

Sphairos · 2019-02-10T16:58:19+00:00

When I'm out with the guys, there are usually 1 or 2 who are better looking than me and are physically better developed, better dressed, etc.. I'm kinda reserved and go about my fun quietly. They've noticed I get all the "I really like you" *grabs arm* business. I don't think they get it. They work hard to be attractive, grind all night to keep a girl. I just go have a laugh and don't really care about the rest. I think it pays off for me.

It probably isn't your intimidation factor because far too often I get comments about being scary or intimidating through not expressing much. Maybe you're too conscious of status and they can feel it which makes it all kind of awkward.

One thing I do notice is the girls who do this with me I've usually already let into my world by taking them for a dance or saying something short in the smoking area. They won't just open up unless I let them know it's okay

jbpostv · 2019-02-10T12:47:53+00:00

Happens to me too, I ended up thinking that some of these girls are using this to get to me. I caught one gawking at me the other day, yet I had always noticed that she completely ignores my presence. I think some of them do this intentionally to give an impression that they have higher SMV and are not intimidated by you, but they kinda come off as assholes when they do this.

JSuma · 2019-02-10T14:08:58+00:00

Yes people are very intimidated, including other guys. If you catch girls glancing at you for even a split second youre in but only the boldest or horniest will hold eye contact, it's on you to approach everybody. Assume everyone's attracted and wants you to like them. You can escalate ridiculously fast and tease hard.

Everyone has really high expectations for you, rationalizing you already have all the pussy and attention you need. Your mannerism needs to live up to this hype. Smile and hold eye contact. Invite people in. You'll get shit tested a lot especially from guys, frame is everything.

SenorSwole · 2019-02-10T17:29:08+00:00

Girls throw themselves at attractive men

hot_soup19 · 2019-02-10T14:54:46+00:00

Women need the greenlight. If they think they have the greenlight and like you they're borderline unbearable

MrFiles · 2019-02-10T17:48:20+00:00

This is alot of guessing. A veteran would need to actually see the situation to tell. Multiple things the first one I said is maybe your buddies are just more fun and loose than you are. Relax and don't be uptight. If you're honest with yourself and that's not it.

Another reason is women like to be covert and hard to get so they are triangulation you. By getting with your buddy they get your attention and try to make you jealous so that you will chase.

Another reason you're looks don't really matter to be honest. If your buddies got more game but don't look as good. 9/10 they bring home the girl.

Watch rsd and go out and field test

ReturnsOver · 2019-02-10T19:01:43+00:00

You're not completely wrong

I used to get approached by girls more than I do now when I was 125lbs at 5'8 soaking wet. I had girls being more upfront with me and making the moves and telling me they like me etc

Then I cleaned my shit up, now weight 175 @ 5'8 @ ~12% body fat. Changed my wardrobe, my hairstyle, have a nice styled beard going, deeper voice, not a bitch anymore and yet, I was getting less action than when I was basically anorexic.

Took me a while to make the conclusion that I was acting like a girl, looked less like a man and so... I was attracting more masculine energized girls. They looked like girls don't get me wrong, no pixie cuts or butch girls, but their personalities were in hindsight more boy-ish

It's a catch-22 where now that I looked basically as manly and masculine as I can, girls NEVER make it obvious.

I get 20x more side glances walking around, and in retrospect girls have made very subtle but obvious hints implying I should make a move, and made it very obvious for me to make a move but are not the ones doing the work anymore.

These girls are extremely girly and feminine now however.

So it's a trade off, they could very well be intimidated.

The only thing a person can be sure of is their own actions, so in a way it's a blessing in disguise to now be forced to be the one to make the move. Forces the taking of ownership of one's life

Sonny_Luna · 2019-02-10T19:39:28+00:00

girls throw themselves at guys I’m with rather than me

I think you're probably incorrect in your estimation of the SMV of you and your friends. If girl would rather fuck your friends, their SMV is higher than yours.

I feel like they’re just too intimidated by me to approach

I really doubt that's the case. You seem to not have a very accurate perception of what women are attracted to or your level of attractiveness. It's reminiscent of the way nice guys see themselves as a catch just because they're nice.

resnine · 2019-02-11T06:02:37+00:00

Might have more to do with the energy/aura you are projected than their appearance. That's at least part of it.

Administrative_Worth · 2019-04-12T06:15:07+00:00

This is going to be brutal, but worth it. Most guys over value their looks. I used to too. I used to to a major degree. By definition most guys are average looking, or a bit above average or a bit below average. It's not a sliding scale of 10% of people are 1/10, 10% of people are 10/10. it's more like 40% of people are average looking. 25% of people are above average or below average either way to get a final result of about 90%. Then the remaining 10%. 5% are very bad looking, 5% are great looking. Remember genetic and primal nature, loo up anthropology. Women throughout history before enforced monogamy mated with the top 8% of guys exclusively. That means you have to be on that top end of male attractiveness for sex just to be easy. Male attractiveness, is Face, face is king. Ask any girl. You preferably ant to be in the 10-13% body fat range to highlight your face while maintaining your T levels. And hair is a part of face. So logn as it makes the face look good. It frames it. Frame matters, but maybe half as much as face. Yu can have excellent broad shoulders, large rib cage, you can admire it in the mirror, but if you avoid looking at your face, you're in trouble unless she's drunk and is only processing general information vs scrutinising facial looks which are more complex. Heigh is a multiplier of it all. if you're under 5'10 your multiplier starts decreasing from 1. say you're 5'8, your multiplier would be 0.8 or so. Say your 6'0 your multiplier would be maybe 1.2-1.25. If you're under 5'5 as a guy, your multiplier is 0. Women are brutal and it's hard to find any who want a guy under that height.

You have to be brutally honest with yourself about how you look. Are you an 8, which is pretty damn high. Women will smile at you when walking past, eye fuck you etc from this or above. Most guys over value themselves. You could go up to 100 guys on the street, and most would say they are 2 abvoe ehat they actually are. Most would say they are 6, 7, 8. You sound like you actively go out to pursue women, dress up etc. WHat's your success with them. What would you honestly rate them out of looks. Remember girls typically fuck guys who are at least 1, usually 2 points above them. If you're a legit 6 of a guy, you can fuck 4's you meet out. maybe a 5, maybe rarely a 6. But 7's and above will typically steer clear. Most sex studies confirm this. That women go for the top 10-15% of men. That those guys can sleep with in the triple digits. It's not their redpill "game" it's their looks. There are probably a few pick up artist psychopaths who are very good at reading body language who know how to spot a vulnerable woman, someone unstable, or weak, who they can use to fuck for their own ego. Some of them then try to sell this idea to weak guys, ironically these psychopaths prey on both weak men and women for their own ends.

The fact you mentioned clothing. Suggests you are fashonmaxxing, peacocking. I'm going to get rpped to shreds for this, called an incel, despite my track record. But watch some blackpill videos on facial looks. Watch some of "Face&LMs"'s videos for a beginner but in depth look at objective male attractive qualities. Facial symmetry, lower third maxilla, teeth protrusion etc) Canthal tile and eyes, hair line, cheekbones, nose. You'll see a lot of comments from guys saying "fuck" how they thought they were better looking than they were. Good news though, there are ways to improve those looks. But you have to, like an addict look at the problem first.

Look you might be really good looking, but from my perspective from both sides of the fence, if girls aren't giving you looks and warm body language invitations to interact with them. It's your looks.

machiavellianlaws · 2019-02-10T12:24:33+00:00

I would consider myself an attractive guy with a great sense of fashion. I got visible cheekbones, a great jawline and very aesthetic facial features + my hair is always freshly cut. (Before you blame my narcissism and tendency to humblebrag, this is how I see it). When we’re at the club or in a bar, I’m always the friend sitting at the table and making my friends laugh. Some of my less attractive friends usually go talk to girls (and show desperation). My friends will introduce the girls to me, and they usually find me more interesting than my friends. By this time I’ve put on the facade of the strong silent type who don’t approach, but gets approached. I think they find me mysterious, and I’ll let them dominate the conversation with questions about me (I love the attention). I’s like an interview with Jimmy Kimmel lol. This is usually the case for me and a couple of others in my group of friends. One of my friends is also an npd, and we’re both pretty attractive and share the same redpilled view.

Mickusey · 2019-02-10T15:36:33+00:00

If girls are attracted to you, it will be very obvious. If they are actually intimidated in addition to attracted it will be obvious but subtle. If they aren’t attracted, you will question if they even notice your presence much of the time.

donkeydodo · 2019-02-10T16:04:50+00:00

If I enjoy myself and act extrovertly, women are piller to me. If I am a bit witty, and smile, women throw themselves at me; when I’m not, they only look at me. I think the majority of women are too afraid of being rejected, so when I don’t show interest, they only hope and imagine.that I will

red_matrix · 2019-02-10T18:35:53+00:00

Your game could be weaker than your friends. Are you approaching at all? Looks matter, but only take you so far.

In real life: Looks + Game = God Mode

Honestly, on a scale of 1-10, where is your game?

JuanContrerasRangel · 2019-02-10T19:03:36+00:00

Happens to me a lot. I get the notion that they believe that I'm already in a relationship due to my high SMV. (I bodybuild and consider myself a 9) I get the looks, but I'm mostly the one that has to approach, then I see them approach lower SMV men with ease. How we see cute women is probably how they see us when it comes to availability, but from experience I know I just have to take the initiative and the better looking, the easier it is. It wasn't till I started to hit the gym hard when I noticed I can get away with saying certain things in a flirtatious kind of way.

69odin420 · 2019-02-10T19:09:24+00:00

Girls there days need looks and game. If u don’t have both ur screwed

latinasonly · 2019-02-10T19:55:35+00:00

I have a large ammount of exposure to the world.. and i often make unsmiling eye contact with people, esp. when i am not cool with them yet ,, , when i look girls in the eye , i often just stare with a straight face .. as this is my natural reaction .... they almost always look away and often i catch a little smile under their breath

some girls in my school dont make eye contact with me , even after we know each other.... get some of these girls drunk at the party ...and suddenly they get real friendly...

I think peoples facial expression plays a good part in being attractive... i sometimes see large dudes who have an almost scared facial expression... and i say they aint competition ....however some regular sized guys have a look on their face that you dont wanna challenge ...

watch for the slight smile when a girl breaks gaze with you .

Startlivingfornow · 2019-02-10T19:57:05+00:00

Do you have plates?

[deleted] · 2019-02-10T20:21:01+00:00

I'd consider myself a solid 7, maybe an 8 and the only girls that are somewhat intimidated by / afraid to talk to me are those with SMVs I'd consider under 6. They're generally friendly to me but it's not like getting with them is a piece of cake.

AnalyticsEnthusiast · 2019-02-10T20:27:21+00:00

This can honestly go either way. If you really are a physically attractive guy, some women will love to hate you because they could be insecure, think you’re a player or might just not be attracted to your look.

For example, I’ve met women who think I’m a 9/10 and I’ve met women who aren’t in the slightest interested, at least from a glance. That’s just how attraction works.

In the end, if you really are an “attractive guy”, you aren’t left guessing. Random people will let you know that when you’re on the streets, in the club or at your local coffee shop.

Throwawayed0101 · 2019-02-10T23:04:30+00:00

I’ve been both. The skinny loser and the jacked confident guy. Idk how much about the TRP u actually understand according to your post. I hope the following helps..

Women are generally never too “intimidated” to approach. I’m aware there are a few exceptions, Fat vs. skinny. An 8 vs. a 4. But I doubt this applies to ur situations. They just don’t b/c society has dictated that that is the man’s job. Even if they see you as the most attractive guy there.

The simple fact your post describes women approaching u and ur bros is confusing. U could be a stacked dude and look like drake, but if ur sitting in a bar eye fucking the room, waiting for an approach, then ur doing it wrong man. Go approach women urself OP. Then report back after a few dozen. Regardless of how I’ve looked, then and now, I’ve never had success with females approaching me. They’re game is terribly weak and that makes them appear as the “interested” ones which is a game in and of itself to them. Also puts them a step below u for any future interactions and they somehow understand this.

Hope this helps. Good luck. Also none of this applies if they are narcissists hahaha

Camp_KillYourself · 2019-02-10T23:16:56+00:00

Idk i've seen some weird hamstering going on if the guy is too good looking and doesn't approach them...

They're insecure and they feel this guy will just cheat on them or use them for sex
They think he is a playboy and get defensive that you don't validate them
You're really not that good looking as you think.

I can't find the video but they took this male bodybuilder, perfect physique named Sergei Ogorodnikov and horse-faced women shat on him saying his eyebrows were too perfect...

h0ndaboy · 2019-02-11T08:39:14+00:00

When you are the "best" man in the room, girls will stick to you like flies on a turd

zaze12 · 2019-02-11T12:50:37+00:00

My experience from both side,since I'm not ugly but I spent some years overweight. It's a huge change if you become fit,and have also a waterfall effect. I passed from being not invisible but I had to put a lot of work in, to girls touching me everytime and they want also to take pictures with me. It's amazing.

addwater · 2019-02-11T15:58:04+00:00

The former.

But you still have to act alpha.

Kind of like how they still treat their good looking gay male friends like a beta bitch. Looks are irrelevant in these cases.

Omario6 · 2019-02-10T15:06:13+00:00

reading comment section makes me feel bad that i'm ugly :c

SeasonedRP · 2019-02-10T16:01:07+00:00

You are overestimating your SMV. They aren't too intimidated to approach. I have never heard of or experienced such a thing. Are women too intimidated to approach rock stars?

Title	Physically handsome guys. Do you notice girls are more friendly/assertive to your less attractive friends than you? Or do they throw themselves at you like people would think?
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Date	February 10, 2019 8:29 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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