Perpetual red pill rage: are some men better off MGTOW forever?

abomba24 · 2019-11-20T18:38:02+00:00

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FereallyRed · 2019-11-20T18:52:34+00:00

If you don't want to fuck women, then that's ok.

What's not ok is using your "rage" to overlay your desires as an ego protecting coping mechanism shifting blame from yourself to "women".

That's what you need to figure out.

Have you ever had abundance?

PhaedrusHunt · 2019-11-20T18:41:24+00:00

Are you angry at reality?

Or are you angry at your inability to deal with it?

2019-11-20T18:23:24+00:00

Would you be living a happier and more fulfilled life if you were fucking women?

Are you uninterested in gaming women because you're too preoccupied with other worthwhile shit, or are you uninterested because you know you'll be bad at it and it will hurt your fragile ego?

PhaedrusHunt · 2019-11-21T00:35:23+00:00

After reading some of the other comments here and discussing things with other people a little bit I think you might have a similar attitude to one of my best friends. Interesting guy. Israeli that served in the IDF and is a US citizen now and got divorced a few years ago after like 7 years.

I've seen pics of his ex who is an absolute babe and a yoga instructor that can do all sorts of stuff, and it still wasn't enough for him to want to work it out even though he had oneitis for her.

He's about 34. He owns his own company. He runs works out does kickboxing so his SMV keeps going up.

He has absolutely zero interest in dating anyone right now. He goes out and picks up a chick about once a month, bangs hee a couple times and ghosts.

His attitude for women is dismissive and blasé, But it's not that it's women in general it's just more that he doesn't like the way they are behaving these days and kind of thinks they're on a high horse. In other words he thinks he's better than they are and he's pretty much correct.

He doesn't spin plates, isn't even interested. He does however have a desire to have children one day, and when I asked him about that he says that his wife is currently age 15 at the most. Fucking hilarious. I guess this comes from his background where growing up in Israel when he was a teenager his mom used to tell him stuff along the lines of his wife hasn't even been born yet.

I can't argue with the guy's logic. He says whenever he turns 45 he's going to start dating girls that are 25 at the oldest and keep it like that for the rest of his life if possible.

One thing about the guy though is it's gotten to the point where I can't invite him to parties and stuff like that anymore. He's had an argument with pretty much every one of my wife's girlfriends, couple guys and our friends group, and my wife too. So the one thing is it's like he hasn't completely convinced himself of where he stands yet, he still questions it and it manifests in these arguments with people over political and social issues that he's trying to work out in his head for himself. The thing is it makes for a terrible atmosphere to have a party. You can't just sit around and tell the truth to women you can't engage them on that level but he engages them as if they are men.

and although he says he doesn't have residual anger toward women I think he still does a little bit because we all have our BP dreams that are the male equivalent of girls wanting to be a Disney fairy princess bride. You just have to get to that point where you're not angry about reality anymore you just accept it.

Ass-a-holic · 2019-11-20T18:58:07+00:00

I feel you brother, look at the top comments to your post, basic bitches whos only argument is that you must have a fragile ego or are self loathing.
Brother I lifted myself into someone that had dreams and went out to make something of myself. I was confident, gamed several women at a time and became more popular than I had ever been before. And in the end my restlessness came full circle. I found instead of finding some meaning and happiness I found that the world was full of shallow narrow minded crabs who wanted nothing more than to be validated and propped up on your failures.

We are taught to accept women for what they are, I found more and more that I was happier in my naivety, I cant love something I dont respect and I am hard pressed to find a woman I both respect and can be attracted to. And I know what it takes to go out there and try to find one, for what? I dont find any satisfaction fucking a bunch of human fleshlights, there is quite literally nothing substantiating involved in that effort. Its animal, its basic and fundamentally shallow.

I dont have an answer for you, all I can say is that there are others out there sick of it all as well. Dont listen to the frogs spouting their snake oil of fucking dopey broads. There is nothing honorable about gluttony or hedonism.

gsp9511 · 2019-11-20T22:18:41+00:00

The sexes are complementary. Women need the masculine in their lives just as much men need the feminine. I believe you're coming from a mindset of scarcity, because if you had abundance in your life you would be enjoying the female psyche for what it brings of good to your life. Remember, a Man with options is a powerful man. It seems your forgot the lessons, so reread The Rational Male.

liquorbaron · 2019-11-20T23:12:12+00:00

It's not a black or white issue. IF you feel as though you don't need or want women in your life at the moment or in the future, it doesn't mean that it will forever or has to forever be that way. Women are a side quest if you choose it. That's all it is. They're NEVER your main quest. Your main quest is improving yourself and doing shit in your own life that makes your own life better and makes you happy. If you choose to allow women to be a part of your life or not is on you. Some guys have decided that women can bring more fulfillment in their own lives. Some guys don't see it that way. Every guy is different.

GayLubeOil · 2019-11-20T18:36:46+00:00

Hai Red Pill I really wanna give up and be a faggot. Can one of y'all please tell me that I should be a forever alone faggot cuz that's what I wanna hear. I'm the kind of faggot who's indecisive in his faggotry and needs other faggots to tell me to fag before I can fag confidently

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Dilduo · 2019-11-20T18:23:03+00:00

U don't have to date when you can plate.

Accepting is part of dealing as its life man.

If you choose to ignore women and go full mgtow you will just become bitter and angry and women and the world.

The hermit always thinks about the other.

Accept women for what they are and use it to your advantage. Don't date, just plate. Only start dating of you feel like you may want to reproduce at some point soon.

Whisper · 2019-11-21T01:50:28+00:00

Whether the juice is worth the squeeze depends not only on the juice, but on how good you are at squeezing.

Madhatter747 · 2019-11-20T18:53:34+00:00

Low SMV: MGTOW middle SMV: REDPILL High SMV: EITHER REDPILL OR NEVER HEARD OF ANY OF THIS STUFF

DubbleFUPAwitCheez · 2019-11-20T20:04:06+00:00

I think you could use a different approach. You probably visualize it all as going up to girls at a bar or day gaming or some other such shit. That sounds and feels like a chore for many guys. Go out and do stuff. Lately most of my opportunities have come from just doing things out in the world. No day game, no night game, just living and doing interesting and fun stuff. I plan on taking a dance class when the next enrollment comes and after that I plan on taking a music class, haven't decided what kind though. Point is, I'm going to interact with people naturally, I'm not going out with the purpose of it.

vandaalen · 2019-11-20T22:07:38+00:00

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morescoobysnacks · 2019-11-21T04:01:38+00:00

most men are better off not circle jerking about theory in this faggot ass forum. no body told u to to get married dawg.

smgtn · 2019-11-21T12:08:23+00:00

I went MGTOW or monk mode, whatever you call it, for a while in my late 20s, but I did it for different reasons than most do though. I did that because at some point I realized 2 things: fucking chicks became boring and it is having a major negative impact in terms of time, energy and resources it requires.

In the end you should ask yourself what do you have to show for in your life? Do you want your biggest achievement to be fucking hundreds of chicks or do you have something else in mind?

EDIT: Just wanted to add this obvious bit of irony - eventually even the most hardcore redpillers will MGTOW. Why? How many 70 somethings do you know who are still spinning plates? Yeah, time will come when you can no longer get it up and then the end game is always MGTOW.

WolfofAllStreetz · 2019-11-21T13:12:44+00:00

No, we’re just better than them.

AlmostWardCunningham · 2019-11-20T22:57:30+00:00

I make too much money to casually date. One bad move and it could be all over with, and I've worked way too hard to throw it all away.

I'll get married when Kurt Russell gets married.

MagnumBurrito · 2019-11-20T21:34:22+00:00

Do some LSD. Kill your ego. You'll see you're the problem. Not society or women.

2019-11-20T21:43:56+00:00

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Spaghetti1776 · 2019-11-20T22:49:22+00:00

Some men have shit genes and mental illnesses than will never go away. Red pill is for men with natural desirable traits who should reproduce, mgtow is for men who no matter how hard they try, could never be a high value mate.

Both are needed to put women back in their place and bring about the age of polygyny.

2019-11-20T21:13:38+00:00

It depends. If you can't meet women's standards then yeah you better stay MGTOW.

You can work to meet their standards but your effort will get you so far.

This red pill shit is really for attractive men.

Over60_FireTempered3 · 2019-11-20T20:36:19+00:00

Yes.

Title	Perpetual red pill rage: are some men better off MGTOW forever?
Author	E46M54
Upvotes	89
Comments	98
Date	November 20, 2019 5:57 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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Amen brother