Counterpoint: Incel is a useful term, tons of people are celebate who don't want to be
109 upvotes | June 4, 2014 | by redpillschool
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/u/drrrrrr posted a topic today Incel is a retarded term. Celibate or
not, it is completely voluntary.
[http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/279ugz/incel_is_a_retarded_term_celibate_or_not_it_is/]
And while he's not entirely wrong, it misses the point of the term
_completely_. His post is littered with platitudes and misses what it
means to be involuntarily celibate. And it misses why we're here.

While this advice- "_you have the power! You hold the keys to
change!_" - Sounds nice and self-helpy, it actually just digs a deeper
hole for those who are actually involuntarily celibate.

Let's first visit the term involuntarily celibate. At first glance,
you'd think on a subreddit dedicated to learning how to attract women,
we'd be of the belief that, indeed, nobody needs to be celibate, if
they just do a little work, anybody can have sex.

But the word "involuntary" indicates that this celibacy isn't by
choice. That doesn't preclude that solving celibacy isn't a choice- it
just means that the path isn't clear.

drrr's post reads like somebody trying to solve depression by saying
"being depressed is a choice, just be happy instead!"

The fact is, if it were entirely voluntary, incels _would_ have sex.
So there's another component to it that can't be ignored. Women have
to _want_ to have sex with you for you to stop being an incel. You
can't just walk out your door one day and say "I've decided not to be
an incel. Time for sex!"

Yes, indeed, people do hold the keys to getting out of the rut-
/r/theredpill [https://old.reddit.com/r/theredpill] is a good place to
start. You do have the power to get yourself out of it. BUT that
doesn't mean it's easy, and it doesn't mean most people know how.

And there is one final point I want to make- sometimes, no matter how
hard you try, no matter how much work you put in, you are going to
have dry spells.

Some regions truly do suck.

So don't go into hating yourself when that happens. Instead, consider
the variables that you _can_ change. Can you go to the gym more? Can
you travel to other areas? Perhaps for just a weekend? Have you tried
different game (day game instead of night game?)

Be pragmatic. Approach this like you would any other problem. It can
sometimes take a long time before you break through to the other side,
but once you're there, things get a lot easier. The confidence of
getting laid can turn into a hundred lays very quickly.
 
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