I think TRP strategy consists of a plateau straight TRPers naturally work past where we gay men fail
13 upvotes | January 2, 2017 | by aThrowawayathrowa
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If by percentage alone you work on the fact that predominant amount of
gay guys are effeminate, and also consider the flip side where
predominant amount of lesbians are tomboyish, even if you assume large
amount of them have "seen the light" and work towards an exterior
congruent to their biological gender, I think it's safe to say that at
the end of the day the core essence of homosexual people remains trans
to their biological gender, where gay guys have the _natural
inclination_ to be feminine and indulge in being desired by an
initiator (vice versa for lesbians in desiring others, though as with
what research tells us there's more leeway and malleability of their
core).

I've been looking around this sub and in particular user _should__
raises some good points. this post here
[https://www.reddit.com/r/altTRP/comments/2ixf8p/a_gay_mans_guide_to_taking_the_red_pill_10/]
talks about the "ultimate desire of a gay man is to submit, but should
aim to be masculine". It seems to me that the ceiling here is that
being "alpha" is in line with the natural inclination of straight guys
but not that of gay guys. The masculine exterior we put on can be
convincing, and with years even form a thickened shell around the core
personality, but the feminine side is forever something we have to
wrestle with. When looking around psychology forums, kink forums, and
even by listening around straight guys, you can tell that when the
topic of sexual polarity is raised, the majority of straight guys
completely enjoy being the aggressor, the ravisher, the impregnator,
the chaser, or whatever term the active side you choose. A minority
have dominatrix fantasies, but it seems to me more of a fetish than a
predominant thing.

For straight guys, their ceiling is then simply confidence and game.
They may exhibit feminine behaviour, but when it comes to sexuality,
they the indulgence is completely in being the initiator, like this
"flame"
[https://www.reddit.com/r/altTRP/comments/30gv8s/how_to_fuck_a_guy_like_a_man_or_every_moment_is/]
mentioned again by another of should_'s post. For gay guys however,
you have both of those to work past, but it remains that as long as
you can find someone more "alpha" than you would would be willing to
submit to them. I don't think straight men ever have to struggle with
this. Even if they meet an assertive women who rides them
aggressively, the "enjoyment (or fantasy) that the guy derives from"
is ultimately still that he is "pleasing his woman", instead of "being
a receptacle by which his woman derives pleasure from", which seems to
be is the preferred fantasy of the gay guy.

From what I'm reading about bisexuals, versatiles and tops, both the
"masculine" and "feminine" side is accessible to them, but if given
the chance to be with a man, they would prefer choosing to be feminine
to their idealized alpha. Where we are forever seeking possibility of
the archetype of man in bed, that straight men don't with women,
speaks to me of a tragic existence, where there is no true inner
peace.

The four routes of trying to resolve this aren’t ideal. We resign
ourselves to be an anomaly and commit suicide, which hurt our family
members, we resign to ourselves to a life of solitude, keeping sane
with other aspects of humanity like educating the next generation,
giving to society or raising adopted young, fully accepting that the
feminine core is going to be a part of all of us gay guys and
accepting femininity in another partner, or, the TRP method, which may
work for straight men, but ultimately is still the construction of a
persona (a skilful persona with time and experience, but still a
persona) and seek a relatively more feminine guy, trying to take upon
the mantle of being the ideal man, but forever hoping someone else
comes along to relieve you of this role so you can be the beta to
their alpha. It feels to me to be the same kind of compromise
unattractive people make with life, that sounds horribly tricky to
resolve and makes hermits of us all.

I think at some level, all gay guys recognise this subconcsciously or
consciously and adapt in the above four ways. That's why you get
people saying "masc for masc" which seems like the ultimate chicken
race to see who cracks their masculine exterior first and if it's
enough of a dealbreaker for their partner. The two philosophies that
gay guys seem to have is the same as the struggle of many others in
society- do you recognise the rules and game it well, or do you try to
be a trailblazer and forge your own path. The "masc for masc" guys are
the gamers and the feminists deriding this approach try to break the
game for a different one. Neither side seem to be one that will bring
happiness to a person.

Perhaps actual gay tops will have a different opinion- i don't think
they'd ever enter this sub though, as I think only people who struggle
with this would seek the sub out in the first place. I do know that
masculine sexual indulgences are fully locked out for me- I can read
about it and perhaps process what it is logically, but would never be
able to feel it as acutely as similar to sensations of discover what
orgasm feels like upon reaching puberty, or being unable to imagine
the pains that labour bring about until it has happened to you.
 
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