Emerging Talent: An interview with Chaotic Great      
Krauser PUA | June 28, 2014 | by krauserpua
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For the last few months I’ve frequently commented on the apparent
conundrum that there are few good daygamers coming up through the
ranks. Daygame instruction is the best it’s ever been
[http://www.lulu.com/gb/en/shop/nick-krauser/daygame-mastery/hardcover/product-21441037.html]
(and about to get better with some upcoming 2014 releases), the whole
path is mapped out…. and yet few success stories.

So allow me to introduce a success story.

I first noticed @chaoticgreat when Rivelino started retweeting him.
Over the course of a few months he posts five +1s, all daygame, and
one of them an SDL. Hmmmmm….. that’ll make an old hand’s ears
prick up. So I got in touch and asked him to share his story of
daygame in Madrid. He’s asked me not to give away anything to harm
his anonymity so just visualise an early-twenties Spaniard who looks a
bit like a local footballer and you’ll get the picture.

[Blind yadstop in 3...2...1....]
[https://krauserpua.com/2014/06/28/emerging-daygame-talent-an-interview-with-chaotic-great/spain-v-south-africa-fifa-confederations-cup/]
Blind yadstop in 3…2…1….

QU.1 – CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE ABOUT HOW YOU HEARD ABOUT DAYGAME
AND WHAT PUSHED YOU FROM “INTERESTED” INTO COMMITTING TO SOME
APPROACHES?

It all started last summer when by chance I found a manosphere
community (The Red Pill subreddit) and began obsessively reading
everything I could get my hands on. Thank god I did. For 21 years I
had been unaware of how much of chump I had been and how unattractive
some of my behaviours were.

As it usually happens, the pendulum swung the other way and I became
an narcissistic asshole. I got better with time as my personality came
through the dark triad guy I was trying to project. I think this
happens to most beginners.

I fell in love with he idea of bettering and after coming back from an
study abroad program I began “working on my value”. I would
work out, eat well and try to be the alpha guy in the room. But I
wasn’t getting laid. I kept telling myself how I needed to look
better, be better to get laid. As you’ve mentioned in your blog,
this is just an excuse. Since I had always sucked at night game I
figured daygame would be more appropriate for my personality and
decided to try it out. Quoting porn and masturbation was a big
motivation to start doing approaches.

For the first few days I would walk around town weaselling out or
doing lame indirect approaches. I knew I wasn’t gonna get laid by
asking where the nearest Starbucks was and even though I could talk to
girls, I couldn’t seduce them. Everything changed when I
contacted Rivelino (@alpharivelino), who I found on Twitter and read
was also in Madrid. I met up with him and he showed me how to properly
yadstop and taught me the London Daygame Model. Having him as a wing
and game teacher was of huge help. Once I got a set of rules to follow
and was able to see him approach I felt much more comfortable.

We started daygaming several times a week and still game together. I
became obsessed with daygame, going out several times a week sometimes
for as long as 7 hours. Now I do around 30 approaches a week.

I recently started recording my sets to get better feedback and see
where I can improve. I was able to consistently hit the streets by
realising that I was using an excuse not to approach and by finding an
experienced daygamer that took me under his wing and pushed me
constantly.

[Madrid, in my mind]
[https://krauserpua.com/2014/06/28/emerging-daygame-talent-an-interview-with-chaotic-great/dsc1700_1/]
Madrid, in my mind

QU.2 – YOU TOLD ME YOU DIDN’T REALLY HAVE A “BEGINNERS HELL”
PHASE. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE ABOUT YOUR EARLY RESULTS AND WHAT YOU
BROUGHT FROM YOUR NORMAL LIFE THAT FITTED WELL TO DAYGAME?

I had always been a social and outgoing person but wasn’t
successful with girls because I kept self-sabotaging myself. I
consider myself a good conversationalist and can make people laugh.
All of this helped me in the approaches.

Rivelino made sure I wouldn’t weasel out of sets so I lost my
approach anxiety in a couple of days. I imagine this is what being on
a bootcamp is like. I was able to have fun conversations from the get
go and very soon started getting numbers. Those first sets
weren’t that good but it didn’t matter. The approach itself
was such a display of courage to the Spanish girls that even boring
conversations without clear intent would result in numbers.

I was lucky to get early validation and that pushed me to continue.
Having great logistics helped too. Mostly because I couldn’t use
it as an excuse not to escalate and felt like I had to take advantage
of my living situation. I never went through a period of absolutely
sucking and the rush of walking up to the girls and getting some
smiles was becoming extremely addictive. External validation hits, as
Riv calls them.

I feel like all the right pieces were there, I just needed to focus my
attention on approaching and following the model.

QU.3 – LET’S HAVE A STORY ABOUT THE FIRST TIME YOU REALISED YOU
COULD BANG SOME HOT GIRLS AND BECAME A DAYGAME BELIEVER. ALSO,
CONTRAST IT WITH AN EXAMPLE OF A REALLY FRUSTRATING FAILURE.

I became a believer by reading blogs like yours. Field reports of SDLs
and bathroom sex stories. I was never skeptical of the efficacy of
game and was getting numbers and good reactions from girls early on so
I knew it was possible.

It was probably after my first daygame lay that I viewed it as a very
valid and efficient way to have sex with quality girls.

The funny thing is that this first lay could also be considered one my
most frustrating failures. She was a very hot Romanian girl in her
late twenties. She had a great body and a very sexy walk. I did what
Rivelino calls a “blind yadstop” and approached her having
only seen her back. My mindset was to just talk to her to become
comfortable with the hotter girls, I expected nothing to get out of
it.

She spoke no English and knew very little Spanish. We communicated
mostly through Google Translate, which allowed me plenty of time to
come up with good responses to shit tests. Since I couldn’t say
much all I did was look intensely at her while repeating
“I’m gonna fuck you” in my head. It worked!

We met up and after some awkward moments where she kept saying I was
rude (which I now view as a good sign) and failed escalations I was
able to get her back to my place. Things seemed to be progressing
nicely but I was very nervous. I wasn’t quite sure how to make it
happen and decided to follow the advice on the book (Daygame Mastery
that is) and picked her up and threw her on the bed (I almost fell on
a coffee table with her in my arms hahah). Laying on top of her I
could hear my mind saying “what if you don’t get hard?”
and, of course, went completely limp instantly. Fuck! Not as
embarrassing as I thought because she was blaming herself for not
being able to turn me on. Fascinating how insecure every woman is
regardless of her looks. Imagine having a hot Romanian looking at you
with puppy eyes asking “me not sexy for you?”. Poor girl.

Anyways I tried doing some mediation and relaxation exercises but
couldn’t seem to get it up. I convinced her to suck on my limp
dick and see if the stars would align. I got a half decent erection
and decided to go for it mostly to make it count. To finally be able
to say I banged a girl from daygame. I wanted the reference experience
for future lays. I couldn’t feel much with the condom on and
explained and convinced her to try raw and see if it would help. It
didn’t really but showed how a turned on woman can be easily
convinced. The whole thing seemed like an awkward American Pie sex
scene and after a while I told her to leave and that we should try
some other time. Huge sexual failure but great daygame progress. It
was my first complete run of the model so I wasn’t too devastated
by the whole thing.

A couple of days passed and I noticed red spots on the head of my
dick. WTF. I’m scared shitless and go to see my urologist as soon
as I could. Turns out the bitch gave me a yeast infection. Fucking
cunt. I treated it for a month and it was gone but that month all I
could think is how much of an idiot I was for not wrapping it up.

[Artist's impression, yesterday]
[https://krauserpua.com/2014/06/28/emerging-daygame-talent-an-interview-with-chaotic-great/american/]
Artist’s impression, yesterday

A few weeks later I bumped into her walking with her mom during a
daygame session. It was a nice reminder of how crazy your life can
become once you start hitting the streets.

As for other failures, I remember getting some LMR from an American
girl (24) that had gone a year without sex with my hand rubbing her
pussy and her panties dripping. She then explained how her previous bf
had to wait a year and a half to fuck her. There is no way to know
you’re gonna fuck for sure. Getting her number means nothing,
making out with her means nothing, only fucking her makes you know for
sure. This has been a big discovery for me and it’s helped tons
to drop all expectations of what could happen.

It was also frustrating to spend time with a cute Russian teen (19)
that ended up being a complete waste of time. She was just sad and
depressed and wanted someone to hang out with. She had no personality,
no opinions on anything and was a complete downer. What bothered me
wasn’t not fucking her it was thinking of the opportunity cost of
spending time with her. I could have been day gaming getting more
leads!

 

_Thanks ChaoticGreat for the insight. Part two to follow soon……_
 
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