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The question you're not asking is what do the girls look like.... That's a fair question. Not merely looks (I feel bad reducing people to their appearance), but character. Maybe these aren't the quality of women most men should want attention from in the first place, because they have few character virtues. and also 5'7" isn't that short either. I'm 5'8". It's extremely short, in my opinion. Everybody around me is my height or taller. I can never feel like a man due to how short I am, I only fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:21 PM
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but I kinda doubt that you read multiple testimonies from girls in my city. Lol I was just joking, though I guess that wasn't much of a good joke. The image of a guy spending his days playing tic-tac-toe with tons of women and getting rejected at the end of each interaction was kind of funny to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:50 PM
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Have you ever mentioned it here before? Feel like I've read the same story at some point. Maybe this dude's played tic-tac-toe with a third of the women in your city lol Though personally that approach idea would feel too canned for my liking, but I respect the originality and fun of it nonetheless, so thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:51 AM
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That's understandable. Approaching and bantering with random women is not an essential life skill, for men who can attract women by other means.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:47 AM
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Lack of social inhibition can open many doors of opportunity in society. Too many people allow fear to hold them back from doing what they truly want to do in life, including something as small as chatting with a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:15 AM
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Instead of doing all this extra shit you coulda just minded your business: There's nothing wrong with approaching people in public, so long as they aren't in a rush to get somewhere, and you back off if they indicate disinterest. "...now I don't currently know where that kind of man is, but I can stick around and help you find him" Self-deprecating humor that shows you don't take yourself seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 11:15 PM
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Thank you, it is validating to hear that from an actual woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 11:00 PM
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It's not monkey-dancing if you're entertaining yourself at the end of the day, is how I feel. If I felt like I was putting on a show to impress someone, I wouldn't do it, it would feel too demeaning to myself. It's just conversation, with witty lines thrown in. And hopefully the witty lines will keep the girls interest, but if not then I can at least feel good knowing that I practised my ability to speak to strangers without nervousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:11 PM
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I've never approached a woman before, but I plan to soon. And when I do, I think I'll have great game. I've always strived to be funny, since I was a kid. And I had to rely on it even more once puberty hit and I was too ugly to make friends based on looks alone. But I previously had a lot of issues with social anxiety, with my voice feeling trapped inside my body and sounding quite faint when I spoke to people, and accompanied by a stutter. However, a technique I've been practising is "continuou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:49 PM
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How the heck does he do it? How handsome is his face? How rich is he? How good is his game? What kind of physique does he have? Please tell him to start a Youtube channel, I will literally subscribe today itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:09 PM
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Height isn't necessarily the "best" example of sexual dimorphism (I'm not sure what that would be, tbh), but is by default the most visible example of sexual dimorphism, simply because a person's height takes up more space than any other feature about them, therefore making height the very first attribute we notice about a person. That said, I do agree that in your example the 5'7" guy would be perceived as more masculine than the taller guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:05 PM
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no, you’ll find men who gatekeep and accuse women of not being true fans of whatever hobby it is. i would try regardless, but having attended con’s before/being part of those types of groups in school, this is how the majority behave. Well then it sucks if that's the majority of the guys in those groups, because those guys are missing out on their one chance to have a female friend or girlfriend who shares the same interests as them, and vice versa for you. I don't know why those guys are shooti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:09 PM
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But kissing is so intimate, I can't just do that with a stranger. Especially if she ghosts me later and then I just gave my kiss away to some random person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 10:04 PM
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Okay, I believe you. I'm not sure what those women see in those guys. But maybe the women lead similar lifestyles? Also isn't that meme just showing a standard way of hugging a partner lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 08:47 PM
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If it were a guy to say "I only date girls with D cups or bigger" people would say they were disgusting and go off on them This is the example I wish men would use, instead of bringing up "weight" like they usually do. If men collectively decided that nothing less than a D-cup were attractive to them, and were willing to reject 80+% of the female population on that basis alone, then we all know this would not be looked upon favorably and would definitely spark a feminist submovement which protes…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 07:06 PM
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But I see a lot of dudes, with neck tats, flat brimmed caps, with $17 cash in his pocket following around their GF at Walmart. You're saying those men aren't tall or handsome or rich, but still have girlfriends? Or are they still tall and handsome? Because a physically attractive man doesn't need money to land a woman, sometimes even the woman will be willing to pay for his needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:37 PM
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Should "traditional" men also try to kiss a woman by date 4? Because personally I think that'd be moving too fast for me. If date 5 is where things fizzle out, then I'll have given away a kiss to someone I never even got into an LTR with. And what if that keeps repeating with multiple girls? Then I'll be a guy whose had multiple kisses and no girlfriend. And that is just not the kind of guy I am, it would make me feel very "cheap" and "easy" like a manwhore. I only want to kiss someone if they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:08 PM
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look up gamergate lol Thought that was about a group of gamers who discovered some major conspiratorial plot by the world's largest gaming companies LOL, had no idea it related to misogyny. there’s literally an entire tiktok trend of girls saying they want exactly that, with hundreds of thousands of likes on their videos. I watched a ton of TikToks after those videos, to see if there really was a trend here. And you're right, there is a trend. However, I'm not sure how much of the trend is genui…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:54 PM
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That's really interesting. So do you prefer the sexual stuff without it being wrapped in a GFE? Did you ever have crushes on regular, non-escort women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:08 AM
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Do you mind answering the other questions I asked? Like whether you have ever developed feelings for any of the girls, like the college girl you mentioned? Have they ever developed feelings for you? I don't know how people can be so intimate with another human being and not develop feelings for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:00 PM
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a guy who has stereotypically nerdy interests, is a homebody and isn’t particularly extroverted or into partying/drinking. That...actually kind of sounds like me. But by "nerdy interests", do you mean things like science, computers, video games, comic-books and so on? Do you differentiate "nerdy" from "geeky"? did you truly not know what i meant, or were you trying to pull me into one of those ‘girls say they like nerdy guys but they just mean henry cavill in glasses!!’ arguments lol LOL no, tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:49 PM
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What should 25+ year olds do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:53 PM
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my type is nerdy/introverted guys though What do you mean by a "nerdy/introverted guy"? Can you post a picture of a guy who matches your type? Also do you have any friends who share that "type"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:51 PM
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What are those dynamics like? Do you ever feel truly loved by them, as if it were a real relationship? Or is the interaction transparently transactional? Have you ever developed feelings for an escort/sugar baby? Do they ever let you hang out with them without you paying for it, because they developed feelings for you? Do they let you cuddle with them, put their head on your chest, and caress their hair gently, until both of you fall asleep together? Or is that too intimate for them? How do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:13 PM
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and everyone around me is busy with their live-in best friend and sexual partner or the offspring they've created together "live-in best friend" is such a good phrase for capturing what it must be like to have a great partner. They're your best friend, and they live with you. And you phrased that succinctly. And on top of that, they're your sexual partner, which means new heights of intimacy. And for those who value children (I don't at this time), you also have some together. You've captured th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:05 PM
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They don't view the man as immoral for sleeping with so many women? They don't view him as "easy" and a libertine?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:58 PM
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I got fit and muscular How muscular? Can you show a pic of yourself or at least a similar physique? and I got "i fucking love you" "you are a real man" "fuck me right now". Who said these words, and in what context? That is what being in the 10% does to a woman. Is it possible for a man who is only 5'8" to be in the top 10%? Its random blowjobs, sex every day or close to it, acts of service, loving & caring nature, purely from desire and the anxiety of you leaving her for someone better. She giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:01 PM
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Probably you’ve heard that at certain workplaces there is a guy who slept with almost every woman. These guys belong to the 20 or some will say 10 percent. Would those women be aware they all slept with the same guy? If they did become aware, would that make them like him more or less?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:55 PM
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I can see your perspective, and think that perhaps the reality of these activities will feel stranger than how I imagined them to be. These are not the only relationship fantasies I have, most of which are fairly standard ones like cuddling together while watching a movie, but I have a strong "caretaker" instinct and these kinds of activities are what I consider to express that side of me. In general, I view romantic love as involving a parent-child dynamic. I know that personally I'd want my ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:44 PM
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Have you always been confident enough to approach women or did the confidence increase over time? How did you become confident enough to do it in the first place? What advice would you give to a man is too scared to approach women? Are you essentially immune to anxiety when you approach women now? Do you think your game was lacking too, or do you think it was mostly your looks and height which created your low success rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:37 PM
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Just to clarify, I'm also open to massages, cuddling and hair scritching. Brushing was just one example. only because hair brushing is typically a somewhat painful or annoying process especially if the other person doesn't know what they're doing which most men don't. It wouldn't be soothing in the way you're thinking. If this is really the case, then brushing can be replaced by one of the other activities. Regarding makeup, I admit that I don't know how to do it but she can teach me first for p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:38 PM
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I've been to a club maybe once or twice in my life, many years ago. It was awful - painfully loud, with no way of making conversation with anyone. So how do people even socialize at nightclubs? Is it purely a game of reading non-verbal body language, with no speech attached?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:23 PM
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Good comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:19 PM
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2000? Did you have any success?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:16 PM
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For a man she finds attractive, there is never a wrong place to approach her; for men she does not find attractive, there is never a right place to approach her. Simple as that. Damn, this is too real (I edited your comment a bit to make it more poetic).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:15 PM
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But can't it be a bonding activity between yourself and the one you love? For example, she comes back from work and then sits down on the bed in front of you, and you brush her hair while she tells you about her day. Not merely brushing to make the hair look nice, but as a tactile gesture of affection. Same thing with makeup. Imagine you're going out on a date in the evening, so she sits in front of you, and after you kiss her face multiple times you begin applying makeup on it. Spoonfeeding is …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:08 AM
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Honestly, dude. And these people don't even recognize how cynical their assumptions are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:17 AM
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Very much yes. It allows me to express my paternal instincts, which I already have inside of me and which I deeply wish to direct towards a woman. I want to kiss the top of her head, I want to spoon her at night and rub her tummy in a circular motion with my hand until she falls asleep, I want to brush her hair, do her makeup and occasionally spoon-feed her. Not in a creepy, fetishistic way, but simply because I like the idea of taking care of a human being that I love. It gives me a sense of pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:15 AM
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You are right dude, it's just a modern-day addiction that many don't want to admit having and therefore want to pushback against rather than confront, accept and change. Individuals will have to make the change on their own, and the sooner they do the sooner their lives will improve. Speaking on this as a former addict.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:17 PM
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Question For Women: 1 - If you see a man who is extremely well-dressed (not necessarily fancy clothes, but an outfit that is really well-selected in terms of color, fit, complimenting his physique, feeling like it conveys personality, etc), but the man in question is only 5'8" and also not handsome, would you feel off-put by it? Like, would you think to yourself, "Of course he has to dress well, look at his ugly face and short body. Nobody is fooled, dude - you're still hideous." Would the contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:10 PM
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Oh and they LOVE to submit sexuality too. Is this true for most women? Even the ones who claim to be feminists and/or girlbosses?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:20 PM
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Women are naturally dominant and attracted to submissive men. Are you being sarcastic here? Most observed behavior shows the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:17 PM
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Interesting take. But surely there are some good-hearted men out there to whom this trend doesn't apply?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:11 PM
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I recently came to the same theory as you: that most women want their man to double as a father-figure. But when I shared it here, I received dissent from women in the comments, just like you are now. So I'm not sure if my theory is accurate anymore. I lurk female-centric subreddits like r/Vindicta, r/Splendida, r/Diabla before it went private, r/FemaleDatingStrategy before it went off-site, and those women definitely seem like they want a "Daddy" figure like you described. A man who pays all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:23 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lELGUlqcjAw That video was wholesome. I don't know much about the "passport bro" movement, but I don't see why some people get so upset by it, and that video shows that some happy families have been created by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:34 PM
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Fucking or dating beautiful women is extremely hard for any guy to do Are you sure? This is something I've wondered. My opinion is that the top-tier of men have vastly more value than the top-tier of women do, because atttactive women are everywhere but attractive men are so rare, thus making those top men the ones who get chased by the top women rather than the other way around. After all, who else are those top women going for?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:22 AM
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Because by engaging in such acts those women have forfeited their innocence, doing things which their family would be horrified to hear about let alone witness. Knowing that a woman who looks pure on the outside may have partaken in such heinous acts fills my heart with tremendous sorrow. And to make things even worse is the idea that some good-hearted man will settle down with that woman, completely unaware of the kinds of intimate acts her past self engaged in with other men. I think most men …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:26 AM
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because Chad came on their face once. Does this really happen? Can someone please tell me that this absolute nightmare of mine doesn't actually happen in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:09 AM
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Not sure if sarcasm, but it's probably true in your case. Attractive women probably don't develop crushes on non-handsome dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:07 PM
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Yeah I know but I don't fully get why. I guess the appearance of maturity gives a man a lot more points amongst women than youthful skin and hair do. Highlights how different women see men than men see women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:02 PM
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I feel like even a 5-inch difference isn't enough for most women. They want to feel tiny, not merely smaller. They want the man to tower over her like he were a different breed of human, not merely be a bit taller than her and thus still be in the realm of relatability.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:37 AM
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Even if they loved you and treated you so caringly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:33 AM
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I don't see youth as valuable, but youth as correlating to beauty, and beauty as valuable. If older people had better skin and hair than younger people, youth would no longer be coveted. But your perspective is fair. I do agree that a man appears much more respectable once he has grown into manhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:32 AM
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Yeah, I understand these reasons since I've heard them before, but they run counter to how men perceive younger women so it's kind of difficult for me to relate with. but the “ick factor” of their age and perceived innocence But why is innocence seen by women as an unattractive quality in a man? This is another example where men feel the exact opposite - we deeply crave innocence in our female partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:25 AM
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Well played lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:21 AM
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Do you find that creepy on their part? Because I'll be honest and admit that I really deeply wish I could be looked after by a caring older woman too. But mainly for cuddling, rather than something sexual. Do any of your similar-aged friends have a fantasy of being a maternal figure to a younger man? Of making him feel so safe and loved in her arms?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:19 AM
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I was friends with a billionaire incel How the heck did you become friends with him? Is he famous? High sexual market place incels can be found because they are excommunicated from their ability to feel love because of their extremely elevated power and status. But wouldn't that make it so easy for them to find a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:14 AM
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I guess it's mostly a matter of having a high leg-to-torso ratio. Longer legs make a person appear taller. I am short but at least have the illusion of being taller on my side thanks to longer legs. Posture is another factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:07 AM
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How tall are you? You are probably tall and handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 01:18 AM
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this meme template kills me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 01:16 AM
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You are worth so much more than your looks, even though I'm sure your looks aren't as bad as yiu think they are. Female gaze versus male gaze. Men don't even notice many of the so-called "flaws" that a lot of women feel insecure over. Please don't consider yourself as an "ugly, post-wall" woman. You have more value than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 01:14 AM
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What about a 60-year-old Paul Newman - do you agree that he is extremely handsome even as a senior? How would you feel if a man like that approached you? Watch The Color of Money (1986) with him and Tom Cruise, the guy has more sex appeal than Cruise and embodies a brand of raw masculinity that could be used as a freaking playbook on how to be a high-status man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 01:10 AM
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when I was around 20-22 I was obsessed with older men. I mean well past 50. I'd look up porn of girls in my age range with men in that age range often. Why do you find 50+ men physically attractive? Their skin is wrinkled and their hair is thinner and receded, and their physiques are often less sculpted. there's no way to really even physically have sex with him unless I penetrate him with my strap. Is this a common fantasy amongst women? What do you get out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 01:01 AM
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He's probably a virgin and can't pull women even in his own age range. But it's simply because of how naive he comes across. So no women out there find these facts sweet and endearing? It doesn't make them think of him as a sweetheart, and someone they want as their sweetheart? Am I the only person here who thinks the idea of a man who is awkward and a virgin and can't get women to be endearing and adorable? I'm a straight man by the way, and the description above fits me. I think if I were a he…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:58 AM
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Black don't crack is indeed quite real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:44 AM
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Are you fully bald now? Do women ever neg you for the lack of hair? Do men losing hair need to lean into an aggressive, "Jason Statham"-like persona in order to make their lack of hair appear like a plus point?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:43 AM
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You mean that even if I'm in my 30's, I'll still be able to get with women whom I find attractive? Assuming that I'm muscular, well-dressed, have good conversational skills, and earn a decent income? I usually envisioned my 30's as equivalent to being geriatric. Also, your username makes me a bit concerned for you. You are probably more attractive to men than you realize, and can get a loving relationship with one if you put yourself out there and demonstrate your virtues to him. Assuming you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:40 AM
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If you are attractive man, and you don't have the bad luck of losing hair and you don't get fat, you will be able to keep being significantly attractive for a few decades. True in the majority of cases, but if you're in the legendary-tier of beauty that someone like Paul Newman was, you can lose most of your hair and still have more sex appeal than most handsome men in their 20's do (he's so much more attractive than even a young Tom Cruise in their film, The Color of Money).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:38 AM
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I've heard older women say that even if a man is very handsome, his youthful looks cause them to view him as a son rather than a partner - which is quite different from how most older men see young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:33 AM
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Why do you say this? Their skin and hair is likely worse at 35 than 25. The only plus point is that they might look more masculine and less boyish, is that why you consider them more attractive at 35? I find it strange that most women don't feel attracted to a handsome 20-something-year-old man solely because of how youthful he looks, despite his beauty being at its peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:24 AM
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women will line up backstage to be the 10th to suck a rockstar's dick even though he won't as much as bother asking for their name. Does this kind of debauchery truly happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:53 PM
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I've seen guys where literally almost every single one of his female friends was into him. You could tell they all wanted him because they would randomly come up to him and do flirtatious stuff. What did these guys look and act like?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:49 PM
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These things never happened to me when I was average attractiveness and only started happening when I realistically reached about the top 10% of attractiveness. How did you make such a transition?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:45 PM
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lol, good one
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:47 PM
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Most men lie about their heights. So 6 foot requirement is in fact 5 9. Are you saying that most women see a 5'9" guy and think of him as being 6 foot, and consider his height to be tall? Or that they know he's only 5'9", but list "6 foot" so that guys who are adding several inches won't swipe on her if they are less than 5'9"? Because the whole "women want a minimum of 8 inches taller" study is what I'm thinking about here. I highly doubt that most women see a 5'9" guy as being "tall".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:39 AM
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I know guys who fucked their recruiters, LOL... How does this happen? Weren't they both scared of getting fired? have a grand-aunt, she's 89 years old. She has other female friends, all in their 80s and 90s, they still laugh at short men That's pretty depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:31 AM
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A lot of it is social pressure from other women So do you believe that more women are actually attracted to or atleast not repulsed by men shorter than 6 feet, but they won't admit it out loud because then they'll get roasted by their female peers? some tall men are hot AF Only some? You don't instantly feel attracted to a man on the sole basis of him being tall? also lots of 5'7 men who look proportion and sexy as well. What does "proportionate" mean here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:24 AM
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It's pretty bad dude, nearly every guy is taller than you and many girls are near your height. As a result, you don't look or feel dominant during any part of your day. You feel like a child everywhere you are, and whenever you see your reflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:22 AM
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This is so important for us men to understand, and embodying it takes a mountain of self-work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:28 PM
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Apparently women cannot even feel uncomfortable interacting with everyday life as men do, are women really this weak? They are basically treated as royalty. Absolutely, and it's not something men should reinforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:14 PM
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To be honest, if women expect men to be the initiators (and they still mostly do), that's just something you'll have to deal with. If you want attention from attractive people, you're going to have to accept you may get attention from people you're not attracted to. Absolutely. Thank you for saying this. If women expect men to approach them, then that will include men who are not physically attractive. It comes with the territory. I'm tired of feeling like a piece of sh*t just for doing anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:55 PM
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I've spent a lot of time here. But I think I plan to leave soon. I feel like I understand enough theory to know the direction I need to travel in. This subreddit is starting to feel like a waste of time, even though I do feel like I'm part of an internet family with the users here. But I'll enjoy life much more if I spend time doing other things. I do appreciate the insights I've gained here, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:46 AM
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Questions for women: 1 - How do you feel about men who are less masculine? For example, it feels natural for me to use words like "adorable" and "sweet" and "wonderful". Whereas more masculine men would never use such words. I don't know if I can become more masculine in my personality (unlike my physique), so I want to know how women feel about it. Basically I'm more sensitive than the average guy, I think that's why ideologies like feminism appealed to me, because I empathized with women and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:57 AM
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How does one handle being alone for the rest of their life? Some do it by choice and others not by choice, but regardless how does one endure it emotionally?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:39 AM
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What do you like about him?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:24 AM
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'My job'? Lmao. Lol sorry I meant it more like, "this is the task in front of you, which will get you the outcome you desire". Wasn't trying to put blame onto you. There are plenty of weird lookin tall dudes who don't get cadres of women and nothing about their stats is off. Short men are really delusional about this stuff and have no idea how we're treated on the regular or what our experience is like. So in your opinion, is the modern-day height craze we see on social media representative of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 12:41 AM
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The point is, that so many of the things people on here say really matter, don't really seem to at all. So what do you imagine does matter, then? I really would have thought height was up there, second only to a handsome face.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 11:09 PM
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I see. Well, that is quite intriguing for me to hear. It reminds me of a top comment I once read on I think r/Splendida or r/Vindicta, about how they prefer "nerdy boys" over "gym rats". I still don't know what to make of such information. Because not every girl wants Chad 5000™ It's just really hard for me to imagine that if a masculine Chad were present, that she'd still be paying equal attention to the nerdy skinny guy. Chads are treated better by everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 11:03 PM
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'A little' interest is probably more apt than 'tons' of interest. Most of those women aren't likely giving the shorter guys any more interest either, so I think it's your job to take their "little" interest, and use your other qualities (personality, etc) to transform that into "a lot" of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:58 PM
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I haven't had a date in years. Maybe it's my face, or my game... Have you asked your friends, particularly female friends, what the issue might be? But the "just be tall and in moderately good shape" crowd is dead wrong Really? That is news to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:51 PM
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LOOOL, that is a hilarious image. You're saying that short guys should be careful about becoming too muscular? I think proportions are really important here. A short guy with long legs and a short torso won't have such an issue. Max Euceda is an example of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:49 PM
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I never said men only want bombshells...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:48 PM
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as if it's easy to change... Losing weight is not easy, in the same way that gaining muscle isn't easy. It takes knowledge, self-discipline, effort and time. Some people will have an easier time than others, due to mental and physical factors. But it nevertheless remains doable, if the right actions are taken. It's certainly harder to lose weight for people who don't have time or energy to exercise, or the means to buy/cook healthy food, or who naturally have higher appetites, so I can empathize…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:37 PM
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It's astonishing that you're equating height and weight together. Weight is a variable trait that adjusts itself each day depending on calories consumed relative to calories expended, while height is a genetic trait that is in most cases inherited from one's parents (sometimes it can come from other sources in the family tree) and is fixed following puberty, apart from the shrinkage that happens with aging. Growing bone is not possible past puberty, while losing fat is possible for most able-bod…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:18 PM
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So long as their silhouette isn't overly round or rectangular, men will find them attractive. The hourglass/pear-shaped bodies might be what are considered the "ideal" body type, but it isn't remotely the only body type men find attractive. I think Instagram and TikTok has really done a number on women's perception of men's preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:17 PM
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"Nerdy looking skinny guys" Did they elaborate further on that one? Does he have to be tall and handsome too? Why would they like a nerdy skinny guy to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:11 PM
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That is kind of brilliant. But does it differ for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:09 PM
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This was very clearly written, thank you. I've even saved this post so I won't forget this crucial fact about the mechanics underlying female attraction. A man who hits 50% of her conscious list of preferences but makes her feel smart/sexy/funny/horny/loved/cherished/wanted/safe/pretty. My question is how do us men make a women feel any of those things? I notice you later mentioned concepts like "game" and "escalation", which are examples of PUA lingo, so are you recommending PUA as the means to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:08 PM
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Exactly. We need to move away from a culture that quite literally celebrates obesity and junk food, and towards one that celebrates an active lifestyle and a nutritious diet consumed in appropriate portions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:56 PM
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I think if you obtained a slim body with a bit of muscle, and wore decent-looking clothing, that you would indeed be swimming in women. You are the ideal male height.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:31 PM
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What is your physique and dress sense like? If you get to a decent physique (which for a tall guy is simply slim with some muscle tone, doesn't have to be jacked like short guys do), and if you dress in clothes that make you look presentable, I think you'll attract a lot of female attention. My cousin is 6'3", it is difficult for me to even believe that some men get to live their lives at such a majestic height. He is handsome and broad-shouldered too, so he meets the face-height-frame trifecta …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:28 PM
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You never saw those memes women post "omg do I really like him or he is just tall ?", even they admit this is indeed sometimes all it takes. I Googled that. Saw many social media posts about it. It is truly heartbreaking just how important height is for male attractiveness. If I had only known this since I was a kid, I would have done everything possible to maximize my growth - nutrition, sleep, stretching, whatever it takes. Had I done that, I might have been 6 feet by now. But that ship has lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:20 PM
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What is sb? Probably "somebody". 14yo boys shouldn’t be watching porn. It’s illegal to expose minors to that degenerate shit. Nobody should be watching that stuff, regardless of age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:57 PM
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a casual hook up where I cared less because I wasn’t going to make any kind of emotional nor long term investment Just curious - how does one do such intimate things with a person they find very physically attractive but not develop any emotional attachment to them? And if there truly is no emotional attachment to them, don't the intimate activities feel empty and unrewarding?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:54 PM
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not too tall Did they mention what qualifies as "too tall" here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:25 PM
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Your ex sounds utterly adorable, especially the 20lbs part. I would love a clingy girlfriend, for the reasons you mentioned. It would make me feel so loved, so needed, so wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:59 AM
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Damn, I looked up more pictures of her body and it does look like two different physiques. If all of those photos are edited, I don't even know what pictures of attractive women I've seen are not edited. This is a future topic for me to research. I'm surprised at how these people are able to get away with such extensive editing, though? Why doesn't anybody call it out and de-platform these influencers? And yeah her body type in the candids is still quite attractive. Also the guy she is with in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:43 AM
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Better a guy being a virgin than bragging about getting women because he thinks it’s cool. Isn't that what women think, though? "Wow, all of those women wanted to sleep with him? He must be quite the catch. Let me find out what makes him so desirable." Now I myself have never really admired a man for getting with lots of women, simply because I'm traditional and monogamous and wouldn't want to be a playboy even if I had the ability to be. But society (including both men and women) pays a lot mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:18 AM
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but i would be surprised if most people who arent black or red pilled actually thought that reflected reality. I haven't seen the film or read the comic, but I'm personally extremely dumb and naive and am definitely prone to believing any of "good guy gets the girl" narratives that occur in media. Which is why Red Pill is so helpful to guys like me, because if I were to trust my own ideas on dating and attraction then I'd have continued believing that people love eachother regardless of their ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:13 AM
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Most men prefer a fat butt over a muscular butt. That may be so, but most men would die for either. Muscular butts are still so attractive to men, that it makes no difference if men would "prefer" a naturally fat butt. It's like saying _"Oh, but women prefer a 6'3" guy over a 6'1" guy". Yeah that's probably true for most women, but the difference is almost negligible since they'd love to have a man of either height. Muscular butts take YEARS to build and you still cant have low body fat % for it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:42 AM
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How do you know the level of curves I'm referring to? I'm talking about the level of curves of the slim women I see when I step outside. These are regular women, not IG models. The picture I linked in another comment, featuring a thick pear-shaped woman, was an example of my "ideal" body type, but such body types are so rare amongst women and such women are so unobtainable for most men that it's purely a fantasy. That is by no means the level of curviness I expect a woman to have. No offence but…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:28 AM
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Maybe within the Black community, where there are higher standards for curviness. But outside of that community, I really don't think most men expect a woman to have such a specific and rare body type in order for her to find her attractive. Sure, Slim Thicc might be considered the hottest body type out there right now, but it's by no means the only body type men find attractive. Are you basing this opinion on firsthand experience or just based on social media browsing? If the latter, then I'll …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:13 AM
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I never said that all/most women have that body shape, though. I said that a skinnyfat woman can still look amazing if she has a pear/hourglass silhouette (contradicting OP's post), but that that even women who don't have such a shape will still look attractive, though they won't have the "bombshell" factor that those two body types do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:02 AM
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I see. That is honestly nice to hear. I don't know what percentage of women share your views though. Some women literally start laughing at the idea of male virgins. No offence, but do you enjoy being an escort? Why have you chosen that particular line of work?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:57 AM
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women's skin just doesn't last as long as mens. In what sense? Also, I'm curious as to how the average married man's SMV could be higher than his wife's when their both in their 30's. Isn't it pretty much a guarantee that women have the higher SMV, since they have more men wanting to sleep with them than men do with women? By what metric are you measuring their respective SMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:50 AM
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Yup, all true. Good luck out there in future. Also no offence, but are you trying to settle down with one of them or just looking for something casual? I don't mean to sound rude or intrusive, but is it hard being in your 40's and not settled down with someone? Does it feel like there's a void in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:44 AM
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Thank you, this is how I feel as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:34 PM
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It already sounds like a bunch of nerds roleplaying, except they're trying to fight virginity instead of dragons Okay, that was a good line. I chuckled.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:30 PM
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Bluepill is thinking that women will love you for your caring personality alone, and that being "masculine" is not important whatsoever. Movies like Scott Pilgrim vs The World are an example of one that perpetuates this narrative: in the real world, there's no chance in hell a guy who looks and acts like Michael Cera is getting chosen over a guy who looks and acts like Chris Evans.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:28 PM
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Do you really believe that? When you see a man and learn that he's a virgin, you don't think to yourself something along the lines of: "he's a grown man, yet hasn't used his man parts with a woman yet? what a weirdo, that's not a man that's just a little boy"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:26 PM
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Holding frame is very important, otherwise the women won't respect us. I've experienced the latter firsthand through my sister - she sees I'm passive and have trouble standing up for myself, so she takes advantage of it and treats me badly because she knows she can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:22 PM
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It would be a society where every man realizes that women won't be attracted to you on the basis of your high levels of compassion and empathy alone (which is what the bluepill teaches), but that you have to be successful in a variety of metrics to make a women feel attracted by you: these include face, height, physique, wealth, social status and ability to speak with women. It would be a good society, because men wouldn't be deceived as to what most women are actually looking for in a man, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:05 PM
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The belly button is more of a straight vertical line than a circular shape because it was squished by the warp tool. Yes, a vast majority of women with waists like that are edited. Are you sure? I googled it, and vertical belly buttons do exist naturally. If a person were photoshopping their waist, they could do so without altering the belly button, or could simply change the size of the belly button without adjusting the shape of it. Ultimately I can't say for sure if a photo is shooped (the 4c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:17 PM
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I've been to Miami. I'm aware that DC is a wealthy city, but I wasn't aware it had the kind of fitness-centric culture that Miami and LA do. Does it? Because if not, then I still think there'd be better physiques on display in the other cities. DC is the mecca of trophy wife, and yacht girls. Wasn't aware of that. If DC wasn't a good example, then replace it with another city that is less wealthy or fitness-conscious, and the point stands. Miami and LA have extremely looks-heavy cultures, such t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:58 PM
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Good advice, thank you. I really need to work on that. And are you successful at winning the woman over the young Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:50 PM
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Same. Those physiques are a glory to behold. Takes attention away from the women for a brief moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:48 PM
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The guys I’ve played with were pretty intense characters. Very entertaining (except for goalies lol). Did they become that way by playing hockey, or were they already like that? Women were everywhere trying to join our party. Can you give examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:37 PM
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Also almost every non-married guy does very well for himself with the ladies. They also just don't give a shit in relation to women. If you have a real ‘fuck it’ confidence and find your happiness regardless of female attraction that seems to cause attraction. It really is about truly not giving a fuck and having intense passions in other areas. Want more women? Truly live a compelling life and don't give a shit about female attention. Thank you for this advice. I deeply needed to hear it. I've …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:29 PM
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probably due to women also hitting the wall hard here. I feel like that's a myth, though. I think women age roughly the same as men, maybe slightly worse since us men can pull off wrinkles better than women can (it makes us look "rugged"). I think the women you're describing simply don't exercise or monitor their diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:24 PM
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lmaooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:20 PM
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I compete with young chads for young women How do you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:19 PM
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You can tell by the belly button shape that her waist has been pulled in with editing. Can you elaborate? I'd never have guessed her eaist was edited. Do you mean to say that most pictures of women with such slim waists are edited? She almost certainly has small breast implants and a BBL I suspected her breasts were silicone, but how can you detect a BBL?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:14 PM
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Why? I'm sure a Miami or LA pool party would look quite different to a pool party in Washington, DC.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:09 PM
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Why would Chads be friends with non-Chads though? Don't they feel like that hurts their image? I guess they might be a friendly guy and not judgemental, but if a woman were near a Chad and his non-Chad friend she'd likely feel much less comfortable than if it were the Chad by himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:00 PM
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Damn, thank you for sharing this story. It was really eye-opening for me. Women really do love hot, rich, jacked men, especially if they're tall. No use in men trying to deny it and then being lonely the rest of our lives. How do the men dress? Suits or casual wear? If casual wear, what kinds of clothing do they wear that signals wealth? Was the overall male-remale ratio 50:50, or are there more women than men? You mention the women "competing" for men - what does that look like in practice?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:48 PM
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Exactly, even though my favorite body type is a thick, pear-shaped figure with big boobs and big butt (something like this), I still feel attracted to, and take notice of, women who don't have prominent curves or boobs or butt. I think some women are misled by Instagram and social media in general, whereby they see all the busty, big butt, hourglass-shaped women on there being thirsted over by men and think "that's all that men want", when really that's simply what receives the most attention on…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:38 PM
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It doesn't matter how many squats a woman does, a flat ass can't become a big ass. Why do you say this? There are plenty of booty transformation videos on Youtube, like this or this. As a man, I've seen my own glutes go from a pancake to a much more noticable size through squats in the gym. A flat ass can't become a fat ass, but it can become a big, muscular ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 03:04 PM
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Men usually only find hourglass or pear shaped bodies attractive Speaking for myself, rectangle-shaped women can be attractive too so long as the hip-to-waist ratio is above a certain threshold and the shoulder-to-waist ratio is below a certain threshold. So long as their silhouette appears closer to an hourglass or pear-shape than to a door-shape, they will be attractive in my eyes. Women need to have curves to have a "nice" body. A lot of women don't have curves. Some amount of curves yes, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:50 PM
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I see. Thanks for your honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:04 PM
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So between a virgin man, and the same man but with an n-count of 3, which would you prefer?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:26 PM
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OP, I think it's crucial to mention that women don't need a sculpted or toned physique to look good. A skinnyfat woman can still look amazing, particularly if she has an hourglass/pear shape, large breasts, and a big butt. A skinnyfat woman without those things might not look amazing, but she'll still look attractive. Woman have a much greater range of appearances in which they still look attractive. Skinny, skinnyfat, slim, curvy all look good on them. But men only look good with the physique o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:51 PM
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Would you rather be with a virginal man, a man with low n-count, or a man with high n-count? How do you feel about male virgins in general? Assuming they meet your personality preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:34 PM
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LOL no, just genuine curiosity. I see guys here frequently talk about how "girls don't want a good guy, they want the guy who makes their pussy tingle" and I ask myself: does the pussy actually tingle, or is it just a myth they've perpetuated? Or perhaps merely a figure-of-speech? I try not to believe the male narratives spread here at face-value, and to hear the female side of the story before forming my opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:55 PM
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No I don’t always notice. But sometimes you can feel it or I’ll see when I go to the washroom. Have you ever talked to someone and not found them that attractive, but realized later that talking to them had made you very wet, thus revealing that you had a strong subconscious attraction towards them? No, it’s not that extreme. Not even if you were wearing leggings, yoga pants or a bikini bottom? Yes, because they think abuse means love. Or if they felt like their abusive dad didn’t love them, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:49 PM
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Yes!!! If there’s flirting and attraction. Do you realize that you're wet as it happens, or do you only notice it afterwards? Does it ever make you self-conscious, worried if a wet spot will appear on your pants? Yes, a lot of women end up dating someone like their dad because that’s how they’re used to receiving love from a man. So even if their dad was abusive or just had a bad personality, they are more likely to go after men with similar dispositions?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:41 PM
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I have a few questions that are mainly for women, but men can also answer if they know the answer: Does a woman's p*ssy actually "tingle" when they feel sexually attracted to someone? Or is that just a manosphere myth? Does a woman become "wet" down there when she interacts with a man she finds attractive? Or is that just an exaggeration by men? I have a theory about female attraction. I believe that women are most attracted to men who serve as a father-figure to them. When heterosexual women we…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:17 PM
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Damn, that is depressing. Even a bookish girl wants the hot jock. I tend to to view tattoos as a sign of someone who is into drugs, alcohol, and casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:07 AM
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My bf has social anxiety and panic attacks… more introvert is impossible Do you ever comfort him when he is feeling anxious? Such as by holding him in your arms, kissing his head and whispering calming affirmations?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:55 AM
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I know a bookloving polyglot accountant - she still goes out to the club weekly and gets railed by tall jacked frat types. Curious as to how you know this? Also does she look "innocent" or "wholesome" on the outside, or can you tell that despite her bookish tendencies she is still an enthusiast of casual sex? I've seen some women on BookTube (book review section of Youtube) that gave off such vibes (tattoos, for example).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:53 AM
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you just listed the exact opposite of my type What is your "type"? And how do you feel about forehead kisses? And a man who gently holds your head against his chest with one or both hands, while gently kissing your forehead and hair over and over in an attempt to make you feel safe and cared for?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:45 AM
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Curious why you chose that username?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:00 AM
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I'd find it cute and endearing so long as it wasn't something she took extremely seriously. And I'd tell her I don't personally believe in it, but that I find it cute that she believes in it - not in a condescending way though, it'd be like if my girlfriend found it cute that I believe that "extraterrestrials are interfering in human affairs" (because I do) while not viewing me as stupid for holding that belief. I would kiss her on the forehead anytime she said something related to astrology, ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:39 PM
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Yeah, most men aren't the gatekeepers of anything, sadly. In most relationships, women gatekeep both sex and commitment while the man holds no power; only the top men gatekeep commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:24 PM
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Do you consider yourself straight or bisexual? If you are straight, how did you manage to go through with that? Have you ever told a woman of that "experimental" phase? What was her response?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:41 PM
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Just curious as to where you learnt this information? Is it from firsthand sources, secondhand sources, or speculation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:20 PM
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--those women won't fuck their men But why won't they? Won't it feel good for them too? --those women won't do what their men want in bed So long as it doesn't cause them discomfort or pain, why don't they want to make their spouse feel good?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:08 PM
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This video of a divorce lawyer sharing his thoughts on marriage, love, divorce and other topics was so insightful. Phenomenal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:58 PM
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Just can't imagine someone actually being interested in me, let alone "desperate to date me".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:05 AM
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The man must work on himself to become more attractive as much as possible, and then he must brush the women that good What do you mean by "brush the women that good"? There are women who are genuinely looking for good men, but before reaching them you must improve yourself as much as possible. I really hope so. I will keep improving myself so that I might have the chance of being with one of those women. But there is only so much "self-improvement" possible when you're already short, not handso…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 10:51 PM
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Have you ever read books on socializing? I'm also autistic and have seen my social skills improve after I started reading a book on the subject. This is the book I've been reading. It contains a wealth of knowledge, which has opened up a world I never knew about: the world of body language. Yeah I'm sure the bars I frequent would love to hire a 5'6 very ugly autistic man as a bartender. Bartending might not work, but try to find other venues which involve socializing but don't place an emphasis …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:04 PM
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Women are more concerned with their social status I'm having difficulty understanding the concept of "social status". Can anyone explain it better? Is it just about being as beautiful, wealthy, and popular as possible? Who decides where a given attribute or behaviors falls along the "status" spectrum? Do I just assume that beauty, wealth and social admiration constitute higher-status? Basically the traits that everyone generally wants are the traits that are considered to be status-giving? Any o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:43 PM
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Well-stated, though I also think women rationalize their own preferences in a way that they don't apply to the equivalent male preferences. For example, I used to fall for the lie that men wanting a slim woman with big boobs was "shallow" and "objectifying", but women wanting a tall, handsome, rich man was just her having "standards". I believed this because of the feminist propaganda that I was exposed to in society, whereby women's desires are typically rationalized into something virtuous whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:15 PM
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This is an extremely depressing fact of life. That guys who are attractive assholes often end up with more women than guys who are less-attractive but actually care about her. And these are not merely the trashy, dysfunctional variety of women (no offence), but sometimes good-quality women too. I've seen it in videos. Amateur videos online, featuring real couples. These guys in the videos will treat their hookup/girlfriend/wife like she were a mere object, doing things to her that obviously prio…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:18 PM
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Is it sad that I found this scenario too unrealistic to even entertain? I can't accept it could even happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:24 PM
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Your entire genetic family is blessed. Also the fact you had foster/adopted siblings is so wholesome, your family must have been really compassionate to help those kids out that way. I did date a man who is 5’8 in high school, Were you able to find him attractive? Did anyone make fun of you for it? Did you feel like you were "missing out" on the experience of being with a "real" (i.e tall) man? I feel like the height issue is an online dating thing. Shorter men flirt, no big deal. I think it has…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:52 AM
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it’s amazing how many “six foot tall men” there are who claim I must be 6’3”. That's both comical and sad. I never knew men lied about their height so much. I'm deeply insecure about my height but I'll never lie about it, honesty is such an important quality in my opinion. But the fact so many men lie about it shows you how much importance society places on being tall, such that I feel empathy for those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:46 AM
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How tall is he? Are you taller than him when you wear heels?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:33 AM
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Damn. That's a hard pill to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:32 AM
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You mean shorter guys never took you seriously? And what do you mean by "taken you seriously"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:30 AM
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6'3" is the ideal male height. Can't even believe how attractive a man becomes when he's 6'3", broad-shouldered, with a handsome face. I saw it firsthand recently with my cousin. Apart from celebrities, he can have pretty much any woman he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:23 AM
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If you were in a relationship with a guy your height or shorter, would you like it if he mentioned your height as a point of praise? Like telling you that you're a "tall Goddess" or an "Amazonian" or things like that? Or would you prefer your height never be mentioned, because maybe you don't wish to be so tall and don't care if a guy actually finds it attractive? Also, would you ever be willing to date someone who is only 5'8"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:12 AM
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The right person that you've clicked with just smells right. But surely you've met men who you clicked with, but whose scent never appealed to you? smells a lot like fresh soil, fresh sweat and yum. Can you describe the "yum" factor? Is it the person-smell you mentioned earlier? It never changes regardless of his lifestyle?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:10 PM
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If you or your friends were in a relationship with a guy your height or shorter, would you like it if he mentioned your height as a point of praise? Like telling you that you're a "tall Goddess" or an "Amazonian" or things like that? Or would you prefer your height never be mentioned, because maybe you don't wish to be so tall and don't care if a guy actually finds it attractive? Although I have friends who are taller than me with no height preference. Would they date someone who is only 5"8"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:06 PM
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That's interesting. You certainly seem to be an outlier among women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:59 PM
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I've heard the same. The world really isn't fair. Any idea what size would be the minimum acceptable threshhold for you to be able to orgasm? Can you give me a percentage ratio for the importance of length vs girth? ex. 30% length, 70% girth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:58 PM
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I really only want a wife to take care of, that's all I've ever wanted. Sex doesn't matter to me, I have no interest in it. I want to kiss my wife on her forehead every single day. And hug her closely without words. And brush her hair. And massage her body. That was my original statement. Tell me what you consider "sexist" or "outdated" about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:26 PM
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I orgasm from his penis alone. 7 inches and girthy. You are both quite lucky, for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:24 PM
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Can you describe "natural scent" more? Does every man you meet have one, but you are only attracted to certain scents? What is the type of scent you like most? Does this mean that you aren't sure whether you're attracted to a man until you've gotten close enough to sniff him? Do you know if there's anything a man can do to improve his natural scent? I never realized how smell-oriented women might be until this thread. Maybe men are visual-oriented, but women are smell-oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 05:57 PM
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Also, would do anything to be a beautiful woman but I’m not even close. It sucks, I know. It really is brutal. Not even sure what to do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 05:40 PM
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That is the way I want to treat my woman too. To take care of her. To serve her. Do you like forehead kisses or other physical gestures? Also how do you feel about a man who...you know...goes downtown?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:23 PM
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Gene editing? To reduce everyone's standards to the point that everyone finds everyone else attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:15 PM
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You don't find that lifestyle depressing and unfulfilling?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:13 PM
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What do you mean? Doesn't everybody want to take care of their partner, like giving them foot rubs and bringing them warm tea and verbally comforting them and just making them feel as good as possible? You've projected malice onto a completely innocuous statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:10 PM
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I'm astonished by how frequently "smell" has come up in these answers. It is even more frequent than height. Natural scent or perfume scent?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:03 PM
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over time almost any guy can become magnetic Really? Have you witnessed this firsthand? I have seen that my social skills are improving. And I do hope I can magnetic at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:54 PM
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I like tall, broad shouldered men with a full head of hair. Add a "handsome face" to this and you have the gold standard for male attractiveness. Would do anything to be that kind of man. It really sucks. Another thing is I have been attracted to shorter men in the past but they were very intelligent or they had nice eyes. How do you judge their level of intellect?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:53 PM
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attractive scent Natural scent or perfume scent? goes out of his way to do things for me (I like to feel like a princess 💅) Can you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:46 PM
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Dear God, I would do anything to be tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:38 PM
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Why are "simps" your type? How do you respect someone who doesn't respect themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:34 PM
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Absolute must: gotta smell good! Do you want them to have a nice natural scent or to wear a nice-smelling perfume?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:32 PM
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Why do you prefer such short men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:31 PM
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Life is hard, become harder. Saving that quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:50 PM
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Height matters more to you than facial attractiveness? That runs contrary to my model of male attractiveness, whereby Face, Height and Frame are the three biggest determinants of physical attractiveness, in that order. Also how big is his penis (so I can understand what you consider a "big" penis)? Do you orgasm just from his penis alone? Because a lot of women say that they need clitoral stimulation via hands and mouth to reach orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:48 PM
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to find their smell appealing "Smell" meaning natural scent or choice of perfume?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:44 PM
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4chan is an interesting place. I used to browse there heavily. What a different culture. Total political incorrectness. No hugboxing at all. Lots of toxicity. But also lots of sincerity, people sharing their deepest feelings to anonymous strangers. Also some people would write lengthy, detailed posts with penetrating insight into a particular topic. Those tqo types of posters made it worth it. But I left the site because I found the toxicity overwhelmed the positive sides of the place. Also the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:43 PM
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Face, Height, Frame - the trinity of male physical attractiveness, in order of importance. A person's "base value" is determined by their face, to which every other factor (including height, frame and everything else) is a multiplier.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:18 PM
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Can you post a photo of the kind of guy you're describing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:07 AM
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His natural scent or his perfume?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:02 AM
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squash spiders No need to squash them, just take them outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:04 AM
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That's usually, what substances, razorblades, video games and porn surrogate for A road to crippling depression, not a path any man should go down.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:01 AM
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Men fantasize about loving a woman and doing anything he can for her. Women fantasize about loving a man and him doing anything he can for her. Damn, I've never been in a relationship but this seems accurate. Though I did see a videos on social media once of women holding their boyfriends heads against her chest and neck, and the boyfriend was very clearly in a vulnerable, childlike frame of mind and in need of coddling, and that was really nice to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:59 AM
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Not true for all men. I really only want a wife to take care of, that's all I've ever wanted. Sex doesn't matter to me, I have no interest in it. I want to kiss my wife on her forehead every single day. And hug her closely without words. And brush her hair. And massage her body. But according to the manosphere, women today have become so high in their standards for men that they are all going for the same crop of attractive men and thus giving those men an abundance of dating options whom they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:38 AM
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Why do girls (or people) just want to hookup? Doesn't it feel empty without an emotional connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:28 AM
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pussy tingles go Does their pussy really tingle when they're attracted to a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:26 AM
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Apparently the guy was so attractive that she ended up breaking her own rule of no sex on the first date. There's nothing she could've done different because she had already made her mind that she wanted to fuck him and all he had to do was push a bit for her to fold. I really wish I could see how these guys look - how attractive must they be in order for women to throw their own rules out the window at the mere sight of them? I'm tired of reading text stories without any concrete images attache…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:23 AM
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Lots and lots of physical touch: constant cuddling, forehead kisses, Eskimo kisses, cheek kisses, nose kisses, hair caressing, massages and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:41 PM
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Feels good knowing I am at least not as bad as those autistic guys. I am constantly monitoring social cues, and constantly trying to decipher them. I'd be scanning her body language to gauge her level of interest in me, which would hopefully allow me to bypass a rejection altogether since I could recognize whether she was or wasn't interested in the first place. Though there's room for ambiguity, so I guess sometimes I wouldn't be sure of her feelings and would need to make my interest clear, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 04:08 PM
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What you're saying is valid and logical. This is really just an emotional hangup that many of us men have, it really burns us inside knowing that the woman we adore was once giving her more youthful, fertile, and innocent self to another man. We want to be the ones who possess a woman entirely - nobody else can have any piece of her. Men instinctively wish to be the sole owners of the women they love. Otherwise we just feel utterly worthless and terribly jealous inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:28 PM
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Saw an extremely handsome guy in the gym parking lot two weeks ago. He was in his car, I was in mine. I was floored. Rarely have I ever seen someone so utterly handsome in real life. It wasn't just his facial harmony, but the fact that he looked like a young Superman. He was "classically handsome", which is quite a rare archetype of male beauty today. I was eager to see more of him, but he drove off. As he did, I noticed a big ring on his ring finger. Obviously a man like that can have pretty mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:29 PM
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but still my “top few” and my friends’ “top few” do not overlap much Can you share each of these lists?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:31 PM
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How strange that they would associate "living their best life" with having men use their bodies as objects, Not merely strange, but sad. I don't know how Western society reached this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:46 PM
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This is a random and seemingly silly comment, but I just wanted to say that I am not 5'7.5" like I preciously believed, but am actually basically 5'8". The way I was measuring myself was inaccurate, and when my mom measured me I turned out to be 172.5cm which is basically 5'8" (172.72cm). So where I previously felt like I was lying by saying that I'm 5'8" despite only being 5'7.5", I now think it's more accurate to round up to 5'8". I know it's pathetic to even care this much but...yeah. Guilty …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:20 PM
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I see what you're saying, and it does make some sense. But personally it is not a lifestyle I'd want for myself or my partner to have partaken in.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:19 PM
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That's great, and motivating to hear. I do believe that some autistic people can learn some degree of social skills, and make that process second-nature moving forward. people and fine tuning my understanding since I need to understand things to make sense of it usually. Understanding body language cues or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:57 PM
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But I suppose they only wanted me sexually for my looks but not want to date me because I have autism You told them you had autism? Or they guessed correctly? Also you must be really good looking for women to ask you to be FWBs, rather than the other way around. Do you mind describing yourself? Height, face, physique, fashion. Did you ever try to make any of them change their mind about only being FWBs? By doing "boyfriend" things for them, like buying them flowers or giving them footrubs or kis…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:54 PM
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Women use men for sex all the time. I've been used for casual sex when I wanted more from the woman. Why did the women not want more from you? How can sex alone be fulfilling for them? Don't they want all the perks of a relationship? It's 2023, everybody is awful now! Is it really like this? I hear everyone say this. Is there no way to return to the days where people were more caring and treated others with dignity?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:13 AM
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I appreciate such a detailed post. The "pool water" analogy is great at describing the feeling I have had in the past when interacting with neurotypical people. This is masking too. Anything to hide, minimize, convert, etc. your autism is masking. Oh, okay. For most autistic people, this is very high-caliber masking. When the masking becomes automatic. Interesting. I will admit that I can't speak for what will happen to me down the road, I can only compare myself to what I previously experienced…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:00 AM
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I get what you're saying, and I consider myself to have formerly masked heavily within school and work settings. However, by "masking" I don't mean that I managed to emulate the behaviors of my neurotypical peers, but that I recognized I was cognitively different and tried to conceal that fact from others. This process of masking was indeed harmful to me, not only leaving me more tired than I'd have otherwise been but also leaving me increasingly confused as to what my genuine personality and in…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 09:39 PM
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😂 "He tried to teach me all about the mechanical systems used in modern locomotives!" To the original commenter (@lacuti3), I'm not making fun of you or denying the validity of your experience, just making a joke involving the idea of innocuous autistic behaviors being seen as excessively forceful by someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:18 PM
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So those people who were having sex with you would flat out tell you that they don't want a relationship with you? Not even if you asked while cuddling them and staring into their eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:00 PM
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Great job. You are a source of inspiration and hope to autistic men around the world. Honestly I became a bit teary-eyed just reading your comment, it hits close to home for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:44 PM
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I probably have autism, but my social skills are improving over time. As a result of reading books on socializing, and also reflecting on it myself. Autistic people have to become aware of the existence of social cues, and to start learning how to read them. Humans are books, and autistic people need to learn how to read a "human book". Not simply interact with them while only listening to the words they use, but to also make assumptions based on their body language primarily, and secondarily th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:38 PM
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I’ve had a lot of autistic guys try to force me to do things I didn’t want to do Can you give examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:21 PM
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Getting laid has always been easy but I struggle with relationships (which I would prefer to just casual sex). If you ask the person you're getting laid with that you want to be in a relationship with them, would they turn you down?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:19 PM
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To me, innocence is a quality all of us are born with but many of us lose over time. It is a quality that comes from a higher, transcendant, divine realm, which I believe we originate from and eventually return to. And when I see someone who still seems to possess it, it gives me pause and reminds me of that otherworldly realm I believe it comes from. Now I recognize that may sound too philosophical and ungrounded for you, but that's my view. When I see someone who appears innocent, it reaches i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:55 AM
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That is certainly true. But as an external observer, I just find it tragic to see innocence being thrown away. And I think many people might later regret entering that lifestyle to begin with, as seen by phenomena such as the "born again virgin". But I'm also biased so my perspective isn't necessarily accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:20 PM
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Have you tried casual sex and didn't like it? Or are your speculating? Speculating. Like the people who say casual sex is empowering are most likely people who enjoy casual sex. I guess you're right, though from the outside I don't see how it could be so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:37 PM
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Innocent women are losing their innocence within such a lifestyle. I consider it tragic, and it makes it harder to find an innocent wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:34 PM
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but perhaps these are the types that guys should go for if they want casual sex as well? I guess, yeah. Atleast that would leave all parties feeling like they were on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:10 AM
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What is it those women like about you, that makes them want to have sex with you if you're going to leave right after?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:23 PM
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Yeah, those are good points actually. I guess the earlier commenter was the only guy whom she liked enough to engage in sexual relations with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:27 PM
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But some women have actually told me they found it empowering so why would they say that if it's not? Well, I personally don't see how allowing one's body to be used as an instrument of pleasure by someone you hardly know, and doing the same to the other person, could be seen as "empowering". It just seems like quite a hollow activity, something that might pass the time but not be able to fulfill a person at any time. Wouldn't they rather give their body to someone who sees them as more than a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:16 PM
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Okay, I'm sorry but this comment cracked me up. Because I think the notion of something as demeaning to both genders as casual sex being "empowering" to either party was absurd from the start, and your comment highlights that absurdity. "Why are you upset? I was only trying to empower you"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 09:20 PM
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The reality was out of the few guys she was likely talking to, I happened to be her favorite at the time and she was pissed off I didn't give her what she wanted. Is this a common thing for modern women to do? Having sexual interactions with a rotation of individuals? That doesn't feel gross to them? Also no offence, but you didn't feel uncomfortable sleeping with someone who might have been sleeping around with other people, who possibly contracted diseases from them in doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 09:13 PM
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Not sure if you were being serious or sarcastic, but that sounds like an absolute dream and I genuinely think I'll attend church in the future (wasn't raised religiously) in hopes of experiencing the wholesome scenario you've describing here. So thank you for the ray of hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:23 PM
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We don't know for sure, but I think it's a possibility. For example, most of us know about the "born again virgin" phenomena that seems to predominantly consist of women in their 30's. They are most often formerly promiscuous individuals who deeply regret their past sexual history and wish to have a clean slate from which to move forward, thus converting to a religion she did not seriously follow in her youth in hopes of overcoming the overwhelming shame she feels inside and altering their self-…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:14 AM
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I have sisters, families full of women who even perfected the art of crocodile tears to get what they want. Its... startlingly effective I should say. I've been training myself not sympathize with my sister when she breaks down sobbing in conversations about her flawed behavior. Not because I know whether the tears are real or not, but because emotionally mature adults do not lose control of themselves like that when their behavior is being confronted. To break down sobbing is absolutely no diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 04:55 AM
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The short way is pretending to be an extremely liberal male feminist whose gung-ho about female promiscuity and hookup culture. Most women want to tell on themselves, but they don't ever want to be judged for it. That is brilliant. Never thought about that. And it's sad to say that I might one day have to use that tactic. I hope I never do though. Just want to find a woman who is so undeniably pure and sweet that you never feel the need to lie to her in order to extract the truth from her. But c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 04:43 AM
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But when you fill out a survey, it's anonymous, so what would motivate these women to lie? Because they are not proud of their own past choices, and might have rationalized those choices to themselves in a way that is counter to what happened in reality. For example, a woman who regrets sleeping with a particular stranger might not include it in her number because she is still in denial at the fact it happened; or perhaps decides that because she was under the influence of alcohol (and other sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 04:08 AM
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But if it's not good enough for a woman's standards, then it won't help in the dating sphere. It might help elsewhere, like the professional sphere, but not in finding a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 08:18 PM
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fat ugly woman for every gay ugly man. If that woman simply became slim, she'd probably be more attractive to men than that man would be to women if he became slim. Women are simply more attractive to men at a given level of face and body than a man of equivalent stats would be to women. The features that make men beautiful are rarer than the features which make women beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 07:17 PM
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Okay I'll read that, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 07:10 PM
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I held the naive belief that people fall in love with someone on the sole basis of how positive that individual's intentions are, rather than their looks, income, status, and various other attributes that actually matter in the real-world. I was open to self-growth, but didn't feel I needed to in order to qualify for love. It was dumb and I will never get back those lost years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 06:45 PM
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Very true, I was considering editing my post to account for that. But I do believe that women can look attractive with a much wider variety of features than men can, hence why we find so many women beautiful in general. Beauty is a quality that seems to apply to women as a demographic, whereas beauty only seems to apply to a small subset of the male population. The bottom line is that in my opinion, women are much more physically attractive than men and that most men aren't going to become notic…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 06:11 PM
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I am considering getting into PUA myself. Anyone have any advice regarding that? I previously used to be way too "nice" and anxious around women and people in general, but I'm trying to learn how to be confident and ininhibited. I plan to read books on PUA so that I can understand social interaction better, understand female psychology better, and then hopefully be able to speak to a woman without any nerves and hopefully strike up a genuine connection with her, that eventually leads to a long-t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 04:41 PM
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I disagree, it is the men whose faces and bodies are in the 1% are most attractive to women. Can't groom your way to better bone structure, facial harmony, height or any of the other traits that actually attract women. Women engaging in makeup and styling helps to enhance the beauty that they already possessed in the form of facial harmony and bodily attractiveness, whereas most men simply don't possess enough natural beauty for grooming or styling to enhance in the first place. When I trim my b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 03:44 PM
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ideology of equality that seems to permeate ethical discourse, but of course that does not apply to biology. As a former simp and "male feminist", my advice is to start ignoring these ideologies as soon as possible. They have done nothing but harm to men, because the reality is that nobody holds men to the same standards they do women and nobody ever will. So men who fall for these ideologies, like myself, do nothing besides make themselves a less attractive prospect to women and a less respecta…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 03:36 PM
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Because in general men desire women more than women desire men, and because women are on average much more physically attractive than men are. The game begins in this state of imbalance, and the majority of men unfortunately bear the burden of reducing this discrepancy through self-improvement if we want to be loved by a woman (though a few men are born so attractive that they'll never have to put in such work). It's not "fair", but that unfairness is simply due to biology rather than cultural f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 03:22 PM
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I agree with you now, after seeing this video last night. No marriage for me. Just want an LTR that has the emotional depth of a marriage, a girlfriend whom I lovingly refer to as "wifey".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 02:18 PM
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Your brain will spin out all these reasons why you are unworthy… “Cheap and wimpy car.” “Poor clothes” “Shortness” “Bad haircut” “No money.” “Not as good looking” “No confidence” “Past failures” Do you mean to say that women don't actually care about these things so long as a man is confident in himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 02:50 AM
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Why do you think it's easier? Autistic shortcomings are more neurological in nature and therefore have less capacity to be changed, whereas neurotypical men can display a greater fluidity of behavior and can change the parts of their behavior which aren't rooted in their cognitive anatomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:16 AM
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Are you suggesting that men stay in long-term relationships, without taking it to the next step via marriage? Or are you suggesting avoiding long-term relationships altogether? Because I can't imagine being single for the rest of my life. I want to have someone I love waiting for me at home. I want to experience the bliss of domestic life. I don't imagine any other lifestyle could make me happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:51 PM
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but it's not a situation where family/friends have to interfere given that a girl (or a dude) does not see it as that big of a problem. I guess you're right, though I personally wouldn't fault anyone who brought up that subject to my hypothetical partner, since I believe it they are coming from a good place even if it might not be necessary. I like it when a guy is aloof and even cold. Why? Doesn't it make you feel invisible and unloved? Just because a man is neurotypical does not mean he is a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:11 PM
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Thank you for this empathetic comment. Your words actually gave me pause and made me think that maybe real-life romantic dynamics aren't as similar to online dating dynamics as I'd previously believed. I knew they weren't identical, but I did imagine that people wouldn't date someone in real life whom they wouldn't swipe right on in an app. Several people I’ve found myself attracted to are people I would have never “swiped right” on based solely on looks. This is quite an important point. More m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 04:05 AM
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I agree, just highlighting the fact that while I think your description of a "respectable man" is a great template for men (like myself) to try and emulate, a few of those traits are not quite in our control and our lacking in of those areas shouldn't be held against us. Not saying you were doing that, but I just wanted to differentiate between the traits you listed which are more in our control, and those which are more in the hands of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 02:26 AM
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Wow, thank you. Was just trying to share my own experiences, since I see Nice Guys get maligned online a lot these days and think the criticisms directed at them largely misunderstand the psychological forces which drive their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:05 AM
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commands attention and respect back just by the way he is, with firm eye contact This is the only part that I think would be really difficult to do, since the decision is made by others. Some people don't receive much attention or respect from others, whether because of their face, clothes, height, race, body language or some other factor. I'm one of those people who seems to be invisible in public. How do I bring myself to "command attention and respect" from other people? They're the ones who …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:57 AM
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If everybody's ex was an *sshole, then basically everybody is an *sshole Great line.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:46 AM
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I would absolutely love a gym gal, but sadly they'd be way too out of my league. At the gym I go to, nearly every couple I have seen has consisted of an impressively fit man with a fairly chubby or generally unfit woman - which I interpret to indicate that in today's dating market the average man with a fairly muscular physique has roughly the same market value as a much less physically active woman than himself. The guy with one of the best physiques at my gym is with a much less fit girlfriend…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:14 PM
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Speaking as a former/recovering Nice Guy, I can say that I wasn't simply being lazy - I was living under a Just World Theory in which everyone around me shared my viewpoint that "kindness was the only important thing in life, nothing else matters". This led me to believe that so long as I am kind, a woman will fall in love with me and we'll be together for the rest of our lives. This was delusional, though I'm only starting to realize it now. I originally discovered the Red Pill back in 2016, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 09:41 PM
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The comment that stuck out is "you are so pretty, you can do better" What aspects of your husband were they critical of? I know that comment is insensitive, but from their perspective they were simply trying to help you land the best possible partner. I'm likely autistic, and would find it reasonable if my hypothetical girlfriend's close friends (or family) said the same things to her - because I recognize that I'm inferior to the average neurotypical male, and the people close to her, who want …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 01:46 AM
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Depressing if true. Just trying to find a wholesome wife, not a woman like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:43 PM
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How do you, your friends and your family feel about his autistic behaviors?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:18 PM
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Maybe the sentiment of this old tweet only resonates with a small percentage of women, but I remember feeling crushed at the sight of how many likes and retweets it got: https://img.ifunny.co/images/cde34b1df53f0df1f602c93910d4a86fd379c59f464db79be20318c1efe29814_1.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:17 PM
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Yeah, I've been invisible to women for so long that a even a simple glance like the one she gave me is enough to be memorable. I really hope it won't be the last time that happens. I'm partially to be blamed for my invisibility to women though, since I've believed since highschool that having a great physique, sense of dress, and so on, are "superficial" and that I want to make friends and find love for my character instead. Even back in 2016, I started lifting more consistently and noticed seve…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:15 PM
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Damn dude that sounds tough actually You mean the lack of female attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:33 PM
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Just sharing what may be a minor success story: I went to a movie theatre the past Friday to see Mission Impossible 7. I was going with a group of my sister's friends, since I sadly don't have any friends myself. I normally don't dress well, because I gave up on my appearance a long time ago after realizing that I was facially ugly. Also because I deemed fashion to be superficial in the sense that it is just fabric worn on the skin and I didn't want others to treat me differently based on what k…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:18 PM
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Finding love is what is most important in life. Exactly. Very little matters more than finding a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:19 PM
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Nailed it. Can't put a price tag on love.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:11 PM
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A man would be quite lucky to have someone like you as his partner. I'm not sure many other women out there have the same nurturing instincts towards men that you do - have you always been that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:09 PM
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I wish people didn’t make their profiles in a hurry. The app rates you pretty fast. So far, I've only "liked" two profiles. I was worried that if my profile is not up to par, and I "like" all of the profiles that interest me, then I'll be rejected by those women and my chances will be over. I still haven't "liked" any new profiles after updating my profile, for the same reason. Hopefully it's not too late and they haven't all written me off yet. Ask someone to take pictures of you. Preferably a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:09 PM
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So yesterday I decided to take my OLD profile more seriously and updated my pictures and bio - I previously only had like 3 bad pictures on my profile because I assumed that I wasn't going to get matches in the first place. Now that I'm treating my profile more seriously, I have 2 questions: (1) Most of my pictures are group photos (since I don't take selfies) and I'm wondering if I should "zoom in" to myself in the group photo, or just leave it zoomed out so that multiple people can be seen? Be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:38 PM
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I definitely wouldn't list height though man idk where you live but that doesn't seem short enough where some girl is gonna show up on a date and be super disappointed or smthn. The app has a height section (I'm not writing my height, I'm selecting from the available height options) in the profile details and I notice that many girls have listed theirs. So I thought I should be transparent and include mine. My body proportions (long legs, broad shoulders) make me look taller than I actually am, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:36 PM
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Hey guys random question about OLD: I decided to take my OLD profile more seriously and updated all of my pictures - I previously only had like 3 bad pictures on my profile because I assumed that I wasn't going to get matches in the first place. Most of my pictures are group photos (since I don't take selfies) and I'm wondering if I should "zoom in" to myself in the group photo, or just leave it zoomed out so that multiple people can be seen? Because when it's zoomed in, the photo becomes graini…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:34 PM
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How would you feel about a man who was feeling emotionally unwell, so he places you upright on the bed with your back against the headboard, and then sits in front of you and leans over to hug you and silently rests his head against your neck for some time until he feels better? And I feel the urge to hold him, care for him, kiss his forehead, protect him from everything bad. Dear God, just let me experience this once in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:35 PM
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I would do anything to be able to see videos of people like this, so I could try to break down what exactly it is that makes them so magnetic to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:22 PM
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What an insightful comment, thank you. I'm fascinated by people who can analyze other individuals to such a minute degree. people leave conversations with him feeling like they “uniquely” connected with him, when in reality everyone connects with him and wants to hang out with him That is really cool. I wish I could give people that feeling. So you've never seen or heard him mention becoming nervous when talking to anyone? Like, a woman he found himself really attracted to or a man he held a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:14 PM
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You know what I'd consider "masculine"? The man that can carry the heaviest load and bear it, the man who is the most reliable one to his companions, the one who you can turn to when shit hits the fan, the one who you can rely on with your life. Height is utterly irrelevant. Those are all masculine character traits, but height is a masculine physical trait and is an integral part of the complete package of being a "man". I can work on cultivating all of those character traits, because I agree th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:08 AM
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Height isn't what makes a man a man. Did you know that the pioneers who trekked across my home country from coast to coast, in states of deprivation, braving nature and natives...were...literally 5 feet tall? Even amongst those 5-feet-tall men, the taller ones would be viewed as more masculine and would receive more respect, admiration and female attraction than the others would.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:27 PM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:22 PM
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I think this is crucial. Nobody knows how well they are going to age. Some individuals (both male and female) look like completely different people in their 30's than they did in their 20's, due to how poorly they aged. On the other hand, some individuals manage to look roughly the same in both decades, while other individuals manage to look even better in their 30's not because their skin, hair, or nails improve (all of those decline with age), but rather due to them aging into an archetype of …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:20 PM
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Thanks for offering a female POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:25 PM
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But if someone has immense status without any appealing physical attributes (face, physique, height, penis size), how would a woman be attracted to him? She would just see him as a financial and networking resource to leverage, not an attractive male partner. For example, picture a really unattractive yet well-known celebrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:31 AM
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Oh, my apologies for writing the wrong word - I meant to say unwilling rather than incapable. I felt your comment was overly jaded in its assumption that a lot of men here are too arrogant to bother learning about a subject like social cues. That may be true for some of the ND men here, but I think many are open-minded to learning more about it since TRP is technically all about self-improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:17 AM
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How does he create such vibes with those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:12 AM
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Yes, though I'd argue charisma matters even more; guys with beautiful faces and limited charisma will lose women's interest quickly, but guys with incredible charisma and subpar looks can be very successful with women. My ranking: Charisma Face Height Status/Power Physique Money
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:09 AM
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I'm in the same boat as you. I never used to care about my height or see it as a flaw. And even today I would genuinely prefer a girlfriend my height or taller, because tall women are so attractive to me. But in the past several years I've realized just how deeply women care about height, and I also recognize just how much more masculine and majestic tall men are compared to short men. I am invisible to women, and my height is part of the reason why.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:03 AM
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Exactly. I just wish people could be more honest about it. Political correctness hurts rather than helps. Women should just confidently admit that tall men attract them on a primal level that short men simply do not, and that they cannot bring themselves to view a short man as being as "real" of a man as a tall one is. I'm a short man who fully recognizes how undeniably superior tall men are, so it's silly to see women lying about a simple observation that even us short men can feel at an instin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:51 AM
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5'11 What a Goddess. Also your life story is cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:44 AM
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Go to at least any major city and you'll see short dudes with girlfriends, sometimes even ones taller than them. I don't consider myself to be "terminally online", and I used to think all of these blackpill narratives were nonsense driven by male insecurities. But then I noticed that every time I walked through downtown Toronto, the only couples I saw featured a man significantly taller than their woman: a man who was a minimum of 5'11". I tried not to build a narrative, but I repeatedly observe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:43 AM
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Do you feel physically attracted to your shorter boyfriend? Do you ever find yourself wishing he were taller, or looking at taller men and wishing to be with them instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:33 AM
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I feel really sad over my height. I'm almost 5'8, but not even that. I went to my cousin's wedding in the USA back in May 2023. Haven't seen him in 15 years, back when we were kids. He was much taller than me then too, but I was extremely short as a child and I wasn't expecting the current height difference between us to be so visibly pronounced. His entire side of the family is tall: he's 6'3", his brother's 6'1", father is 6'1" and mother is 5'9". Nobody else in our family even comes close to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:28 AM
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Dear God, that anecdote is life fuel for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:18 AM
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Sounds amazing...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:07 AM
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Relationships require a lot of work and sacrifice. As someone who's never been in one before, do you mind elaborating on what this entails?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:03 PM
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Definitely. Though I assumed the other poster was talking about somewhere like the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:52 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:10 PM
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Yeah even if I weren't vegan myself that is a great example of tone-deaf behavior, regardless of what his intentions were. Was he trying to make them uncomfortable, or just trying to share his own upbringing with chickens? I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:44 PM
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I didn't really understand it either prior to reading the book. I used to invent my own ideas about how other people felt about me, rather than base my assumptions on concrete social cues that others have given me. For example, I used to walk around thinking I was friends with people who had never even spoke to me before, simply because we were in the same school environment or had mutual friends. Even when people gave me cues that showed their lack of fondness towards me, I'd subconsciously avo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:33 PM
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Being a bartender seems like quite a tough job for someone with autism, but I'm sure it provided you with a great, on-the-ground education on social skills. give away of a creepy guy was always how women reacted to them. Body language, tone of voice all are forms of communication. Could it be possible that some of those guys were just nervous and/or neurodivergent, and mistakenly framed as creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:13 PM
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I'm unsure as to which part of my earlier comment you are responding to by sharing this statistic, but I'll respond to it by saying that I personally would have imagined the percentage was even smaller, closer to 15%.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:50 PM
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All of the bodies you posted are attractive, as in my opinion the female body is attractive so long as it falls in the range of skinny-slim-curvy (and doesn't tip past either side into waif territory or chubby territory). However, I personally prefer curvy body types by a significant margin. I guess because it's sexually dimorphic to see a woman with curves in places where men cannot have any. The bottom-middle body is just wow. But since both of those body types are attractive, the type a man p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:50 AM
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I probably have autism. I've been reading this book and it has opened a new world that I previously didn't know existed: the world of non-verbal cues. I'm not sure how much better I've become at socializing, but I certainly feel like I understand social dynamics much better than before. Seriously. It discusses phenomena like the fact that we subconsciously mirror other people's body language unknowingly (ex. a person smiling at you activates your own smile muscles), that we feel the emotions emb…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:52 AM
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Good distinction. Wish I understood that earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:59 PM
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A question related to the OP: is it possible for there to be a spark/chemistry with someone who they don't find physically attractive? Or to find someone physically attractive, but feel no spark/chemistry? Because I previously thought the spark/chemistry was some kind of unspoken, intangible emotional connection that a person couldn't put their finger on yet were unable to deny the presence (or absence) of. So I believed that even if I'm not a looker, I might still have chemistry with some women…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:15 PM
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I am, personally. I want a wholesome, wifey-tier woman like Goodnight Moon ASMR. But sadly very few women out there seem to be as wholesome as she is. Or maybe I can't make that statement, since I don't meet enough women to know what kinds of women are out there and in what frequency, but at least in the online spaces that I've observed there don't seem to be many women like her. Personally, I don't feel much interest towards women who have looks without a wholesome personality, or a wholesome p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:41 AM
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if men stop being okay with the way that certain women act, then women are going to stop acting like that. The problem is that too many men are simping for sex these days and accepting behavior that they would normally not accept because of this Agreed, this is a huge issue. Men need to realize that wanting your monogamous partner to dress modestly doesn't make you controlling, in the same way that a woman wanting her partner to leave the house looking groomed rather than unkempt isn't controlli…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 06:50 PM
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The work project should be ending in a few months and I can’t wait. Hope he doesn’t change his mind, lol! The fact your crush is requited in the first place is great to hear and must be such a nice feeling. Also you could ask him out yourself if he ends up being too shy to do so. Taking good care of your physical appearance will help increase your chances a lot. My crush takes great care of his appearance and it does make me more interested in him. This might sound like common sense advice to ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:04 PM
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maybe try to find someone who has autistic family members. This makes a lot of sense, though I'm not sure how I'd specifically filter for these types of people. But it's worth keeping in mind, and treating as a positive sign for any person I do meet. You really described exactly what I love about ND men Your middle paragraph honestly warmed my heart. Seriously. I have never seen any other woman on Reddit say such glowing words about autistic men, so I'll remember those words of yours for a long …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:05 AM
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Really? I'm genuinely surprised to hear that. I see so many women on social media expressing their preference for taller men. When they're around tall guys they'll flirt by saying really obvious things like "wow, you're so tall...~". Maybe in your case there was some other kind of factor that prevented those reactions from occurring, such as an intimidating facial expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:34 PM
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Good point. So introverted people without much social success must persevere through the initial draught until they obtain some examples of social success to carry themselves forward with. Though I might be too idealistic in my belief that a truly confident person doesn't need external validation to continue behaving confidently, and that we should therefore strive to not care about how others react to us but only how confident we feel inside ourselves. I don't want my behaviors to be dictated b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:13 PM
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Wish I could be that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:09 PM
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My advice is to treat it as a friendly conversation, not an "approach". That's what I intend to do. Go into the conversation without expectations beyond having a pleasant interaction where you learn about the other person. If you were in public and saw a woman you didn't feel any attraction towards, but she happened to be wearing a shirt for a niche television show that you really liked (or reading a book you were a big fan of), wouldn't you feel some desire to chat with her about that? Yet ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:08 PM
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Yeah I never got that far with it What held you back? sounds like you've got your head on your shoulders more than I did when I was starting those endeavors. Not at all, just desperate and willing to try something radical since the alternative is continued misery. I used to fear rejection so hard, hence why I never asked any women out. But now I'm fearing a lifetime of loneliness more than I fear a moment of rejection...hence why I've become much more open to the idea of speaking to women withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:36 AM
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Is extroversion a learnable behavior? Because I do agree with you that much of how we perceive others comes from the way they carry themselves. An average-looking person who is very smooth at socializing will make themselves appear to be of equivalent social status as a good-looking person who lacks such an ability. Did those friends of yours learn how to act that way or has that always been how they acted?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:47 AM
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The well dries after you graduate college, enter your mid-late 20s, and find most of your friends have moved in w their partners and don't go out trying to meet girls anymore. This needs to be broadcast to men and women as early as possible, say middle school or earlier. Men and women need to be informed as to the sociological timelines that the population generally follows. It would really help ensure they don't waste their precious years and end up in the "leftover bin" like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:42 AM
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charismatic or at least extroverted, which average guys generally aren't. The question is: is this a learnable behavior? Because I feel like I'm becoming more extroverted with practice, and have hopes of someday being able to chat up any person I see. In particular, a desire to strike up a conversation with any woman I see and confidently ask her on a date in a manner that makes me appear cool and interesting regardless of whether she herself is interested or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:40 AM
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6'8"? 6 freaking 8? Is someone of your stature actually having difficulty in the dating market? Can you elaborate on your experiences? You should just share some stories of how women treat men of your stature in general. Most men here will never know what it is like to be in your position. Unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:32 AM
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Yeah, quite odd. These celebrities often make their own lives much harder than they need to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:23 AM
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I think a person at his level of celebrity and wealth could easily find a woman who is both physically attractive and also not interested in showing her body off to the internet; there are so many attractive, working-class civilians who would naturally be swept off their feet by a world-famous celebrity figure asking them out on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:39 AM
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I never heard about this story, but guys like Jonah Hill have so many options. He may not be a handsome leading man like his A-list buddies Pitt and DiCaprio (though when he slimmed down he revealed that he wasn't bad looking either), but he is still a famous multimillionaire (net worth of $70M) and should therefore not waste his time with women who are incompatible with his values - he could easily find a woman whose values are aligned with his.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:31 AM
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Where do I find autistic women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:07 PM
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Thank you for the empathy. Maybe I'll have to discard this criterion at some point if I want to end up with anyone at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:02 PM
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I think that may be because unorthodox sexual acts are far more commonplace amongst the population than domestic assault is, making it the more relevant example to elaborate on. I just wish that men and women could be on the same page regarding the sanctity of our bodies, and the importance of saving your body for one person only, but it sadly seems as if today's hedonism-fuelled culture of casual sexual relations has made such traditional views appear comically outdated. I cannot bear the thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:32 PM
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True, but I was describing a romantic connection between two lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:03 PM
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How? There is nothing sexual happening in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:42 PM
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Just to be clear, I'm complaining to the void rather than criticizing women's preferences. Women can pursue whatever kind of men they find attractive, and I don't think they should be faulted for it. If the hypothetical average woman was only attracted to the tallest, buffest, richest man in the room, then those are her preferences and no amount of cultural discourse can change that. Even to the extent those preferences were influenced by the media, it's the media which should be commented on ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:41 PM
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I agree with OP. So desperately do I just want a woman I find attractive to hold me in her arms and to hold her in mine, for her to look me in the eyes while I gaze back into hers, and for us both to feel deeply, wordlessly in love with eachother in that moment. Not a random woman from an app that I'll never see again afterwards, but the woman I want to spend the rest of my earthly hours with. But given all the standards for men that exist in this dating climate, most of which I don't meet, how …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:21 AM
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Spot on, I liked the way you phrased that and distinguished a "queen" (a noble woman) from a "princess" (an entitled woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:51 PM
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These guys need actual love That's all I want (well, from a person I find attractive). But how do I obtain it? That's the question I'm not able to answer. I fantasize so much about such simple things, like a woman laying on the bed against the headboard, me laying the back of my head into her lap, her placing her hands on top of my face and caressing it to show me that she's nearby and she loves me, me grabbing one of her hands and just keeping it against my face, kissing her palm. If I had that…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:48 PM
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I would personally want to hear it, just to put that out there. I scrolled through some of your comment history but wasn't able to find any comments on virgin men, can you tell me how far back you made those comments? You seem to be a very rare breed of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:22 AM
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I met a cutie recently who also seems really shy around women and I wouldn't be surprised if he's never dated before And you're saying this makes him more attractive to you? Is it because you see him as having a pure heart, and that's something you value highly in a man? You'd take an innocent sweetheart like him over those confident playboy types? Just trying to understand your perspective here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:11 AM
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Agreed with everything you said. I only mentioned Newman because I just finished The Color of Money and was floored by the sight of a 60-year-old man with better looks, charisma, and sex appeal than a young Tom Cruise (keeping in mind that Cruise was considered quite handsome in his youth), and I wanted to share that reaction with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:02 AM
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Damn straight. I'm with you all the way. To lie for a woman is just another form of simping, being so desperate for her that you'll discard your own self-respect in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:31 AM
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Dear God, the horror of it all. I just can't believe it is really this bad. Male romantics with such pure hearts get nothing at the end of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:28 AM
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I just saw the film "The Color of Money", starring Paul Newman and Tom Cruise. Newman is 60 years old at the time of filming, but he literally looks more handsome and is far more charming than a young Tom Cruise. That is probably the rarest example of a man who ages so well that even as a senior citizen he still outshines the likes of young, handsome men. Even at 60, Paul Newman could still get with the young, gorgeous women just by his looks alone. But most men, including handsome men, will not…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:33 AM
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Sorry for not responding sooner, I was quite surprised to see the first example of someone who writes Reddit comments as lengthy as my own LOL. I like how all-over-the-place this comment felt, and don't feel like I can say much beyond the fact that I will try to read those books and also will try to be less inhibited in conversations. People who are comfortable having conversations that are completely absurd and have the potential to make themselves look like buffoons are in an optimal place soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:25 PM
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This is closer to what I like, but it is my own personal preference. Personally I think he looks too skinny (essentially a "twink" build), but I appreciate your willingness to show the men here your preferred male body type. Mike Thurston would be about the maximum amount of bulk many women would "drool over" imo. I can't get over how attractive he is. He looks like an AI-generated man in pictures like the one I linked earlier. In addition to his elite bodybuilding genetics, he also has elite fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:00 PM
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This comment articulated something very important for me to hear. That the clock is ticking. Not merely a biological clock (in the sense of our declining appearance due to aging), but a sociological clock (in the sense of other people pairing up and no longer being on the market). Thank you for voicing this concept so bluntly. I cannot waste any more time (28 years old). If I want to find a wholesome woman to marry and spend my life with, I only have 2-3 years left to do it. I've never been on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:49 PM
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I think you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:39 PM
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I can't relate to that mentality personally because I want to be beautiful for its own sake, but yeah presumably he didn't care about his looks beyond what they could provide for him. Though I would really love to see a turnaround in the DiCaprio saga, whereby he suddenly starts lifting weights consistently and becomes really fit, and then has the complete package: wealth, fame, social activism, physique, height, face, accomplished career. People dunk on him so hard just because he prefers women…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:16 PM
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Interesting, I've always disliked alcohol (and most drugs) so I never really knew about those effects. Assuming that's the cause of his head expansion (I've never heard stories of him being an alcoholic or drug user, so it could be something else that caused it), maybe DiCaprio's head is more sensitive to the effects of alcohol and drugs than the average person is. my next size went down You mean "neck" size?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:44 PM
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On the other hand you have people who completely give up and turn into fat slobs Like current-year DiCaprio. Why would he let himself go like that? An absolutely beautiful face when he was younger, though his head somehow became larger out of nowhere and made him less handsome as a result, but still someone who could be a total "looker" if he just maintained a consistent weightlifting regimen. It bothers me to see people blessed with beautiful faces not complete their overall aestheticism by ach…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:42 PM
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What do you think of Jim Halpert's body at 0:37 of this "The Office" spoof video? Because I view that as an incredible physique, one that is very muscular yet still aesthetic, but I'm curious if women consider that to be "too bulky". Also, could you post a photo of your ideal male physique? “Oh he has such big muscles! So masculine! I wanna be his damsel!” That is literally exactly what I thought a lot of women felt when they see a really muscular guy. Not an unaesthetic "mass monster" type like…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:29 PM
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After re-reading your comment, I think you could actually be right. If it was just one specific fear that you couldn't overcome, it might be seen as an idiosyncrasy rather than a flaw. Though I imagine the guy would still have to show some kind of masculine character in the way he refuses to undergo the activity. If he firmly rejects the activity due to not feeling brave enough for it, then that could be seen as a personal fear of his and one that gives him character. But if he is visibly anxiou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:14 PM
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Well we're both speaking speculatively (your counter example is a hypothetical scenario, so neither of us can say definitively that it would happen) so I see no way for either of us to prove our POV to be accurate. I thought people said "agree to disagree" whenever they disagreed with someone but also didn't feel like they could prove the other person to be incorrect either. It's also not a topic I feel particularly strong about, just a simple opinion on, so I didn't feel the need to further arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:05 PM
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Not backing out, simply disagreeing. I don't feel like I can prove my POV to be correct, it's just what I imagine would be true in more cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:21 PM
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Personally I think she'd be more attracted if you never backed out in any of those circumstances, regardless of how afraid you are. But we can agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:19 AM
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Oh God, I've been searching in vain for a comment like yours for so long...you have nearly made me tear up, believing that my search for love might not be so futile after all. Quite possibly the only Reddit comment I have ever read in which a woman claims to actually find autistic men "adorable and endearing" (the exact words I'd been repeatedly asking whether any woman felt in my other comments) rather than merely tolerable and manageable. But ultimately I'm trying not to be endearing or adorab…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:54 AM
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once you learn the basics, you can build your skills very fast. How does one learn the basics of social skills? I'm reading a book called Cues: Master the Art of Charismatic Communication, is that a good start?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:40 AM
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sometimes pussying out can be cute I can't imagine this. Can you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:19 AM
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Really? Why would you want to deepen your dissociation?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:02 AM
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Aren't there at least some women (say ~20% or so) who could fall in love with an autistic man, quirks and all? Similar to the way that certain male populations dream about a "manic pixie dream girl' type of girlfriend i.e an outwardly quirky woman who thinks and acts differently from most of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:55 AM
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What should autistic guys with naturally blank faces do in this regard? Making facial expressions doesn't come naturally to me. Regardless of how I'm feeling, my face is generally blank. Smiling, for example, is usually something I do for the sake of signalling an emotion to others, but to me it often just feels like a pointless facial contortion. There are times when something prompts me to genuinely smile though, and those smiles are understandably my most charming ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:48 AM
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Does an autistic man with a good heart have any chance at finding a wife? I don't know how to be "fun", I process things slowly and feel overwhelmed by everything going on around me at most times, but I still want to be settled down with someone and take care of them. Is being caring, but nothing else, the equivalent of not having anything to offer? I'm tired of writing comments here, I just want to find an amazing wifey and be done with dating altogether. So many other, better things to be doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:04 AM
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wish more people thought like you (or were able to admit to themselves what you're saying)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:57 AM
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Can you link a picture of a celebrity or other person who has similar eyes to yours? Because I can't think of any examples of men who look beautiful with doe eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:12 PM
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Have you personally witnessed this effect with men of such short statures? Because I have a hard time believing any man under 6ft could receive stares at all, regardless of how great his physique is - but maybe I'm just jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:46 PM
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What is the minimal height required for this effect to be observed?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:49 AM
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Yeah, you hit it spot on. Women trump men in the looks department, no contest. Apart from the factors you mentioned, women's bodies don't need to have an ounce of muscle tone to look attractive, whereas men's bodies look either dumpy (in the case of excessive body fat) or malnourished (in the case of being skinny) unless they are packing significant muscle. Another example is how if women have upturned "fox" eyes she's a femme fatale while if she has large "doe" eyes she's an innocent damsel - b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:42 AM
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But do people do those things in LTR's too, or just hookup scenarios? bad personalities In what sense? Why do they allow men to treat them like that in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:09 PM
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you'll date a lot of "Chad" guys who will f*ck your face for a while Is this really what happens to most pretty women? Even the innocent-looking ones? Because I've seen videos of that in my prawns-watching past and it honestly disturbed me. I'd really prefer to imagine that most people are not engaging in such acts. I want a partner who has never partaken in such acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:55 AM
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I really enjoy reading a lot of your comments on this subreddit. You articulate yourself very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:45 AM
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Thank you for the compliment. I'm not quite sure of my bodyfat %, but doubted I was below 14% because of pictures I've seen online. But I'm bulking now so I guess my bf% will have to increase in order for me to make more significant muscle gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:11 AM
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I'm not bragging here but I have a visible six pack, doubt that I'm < 14% bodyfat, and don't consider myself to be genetically gifted. However, my six pack looks much more pronounced when under overhead lighting or above underhead lighting, as opposed to more even lighting. I'm not super muscular either, but a basic 6-pack is easy for me maintain so long as I eat healthy. Here is my physique from August 2022. I stopped working out between Nov 2022 and Apr 2023, but I remained lean throughout and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:13 AM
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Any suggestions on how I can meet those types of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:10 AM
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Aren't there some women out there who aren't so materialistic and high-maintenance? Women whose favorite activities are reading books while drinking a cup of herbal tea, for example. Wouldn't those types of women appreciate the wholesome aspects of a relationship, like cuddling on the bed together and kissing/caressing eachother's skin? I'm a very simple person, I don't need much from a woman except to be close to her physically and to show/receive affection through physical touch, so aren't the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:53 PM
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In what manner did you hit on him? Maybe he didn't realize you were expressing romantic interest in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:11 AM
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one is super quiet, may be on the spectrum. I hit on him How did you feel towards him being quiet and possibly autistic? Was it a deterrent? Did it make you more interested in getting to know him?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:33 AM
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Well, I guess I just view eating nutritious meals in appropriate caloric portions, alongside regular exercise, to be a reasonable expectation to place on people. Drug epidemics exist in certain parts of the USA, but I still consider "don't be a drug addict" to be a reasonable expectation to have for a romantic partner or member of society in general. This is not to shame you or anyone on the basis of diet or exercise habits. I just think that "staying skinny" by means of a healthy diet and regul…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 02:48 AM
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Not to sound rude, but why is staying skinny seen as a challenging standard to meet? I would consider that to be a baseline expectation for any healthy human, independent of dating considerations. Assuming by "skinny" you mean a healthy, maintainable level of body fat %, rather than something unhealthy and unsustainable. I can understand why the other standards would be seen as a burden to live up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 02:18 AM
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It's interesting. As a former bluepilled guy, I'd take whatever women said at face value. Until I started seeing some women here make the opposite claims, such as the idea that "women wear makeup to compete against other makeup-wearing-women for men", which seemed like a much more plausible explanation to me. It never previously occurred to me that some women might not have been honest about their actual motivations regarding these behaviors of theirs, even though I'm still not sure why those wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 02:13 AM
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What do men like myself do, who are unsuccessful at practically everything I attempt? I find it difficult to even hold a single coherent thought in my mind for any length of time. Like, I just feel mentally foggy at all times. I can't process much going on around me, nearly everything is a blur. I don't have any career at all and the aforementioned mental fog prevents me realizing that I need one at all. I have ADHD and all of the executive dysfunction that comes with it: time blindness: I can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 01:19 AM
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I genuinely don't believe someone with my default "stats" (height, race, face, neuroprofile) has any real potential in the dating market. It sucks to feel that way, and you're right that I'm quitting prematurely, but I simply don't think any amount of self-improvement can offset my immutable traits enough to render me attractive to the kinds of women that I find attractive. However, I still plan to self-improve simply for the enjoyment it brings me. I personally find lifting weights to be intrin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:38 AM
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All the heterosexual couples I see around me have guys at least 5'11" in height if not taller. And yes, most of them are white. I was delusional to think that I ever had a chance as a 5'8" Indian guy. Delusional. Now I'm not delusional. I'm going to live a fulfilling, solitary life cooking great food and reading great books.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:21 AM
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a lot of men really do think that just “being nice” will get them girlfriends Yeah, that was me until fairly recently. Not anymore. I originally thought the red pill was just a product of male bitterness, and I extended more solidarity towards female empowerment movements than contemporary men's issues, but that chapter of my life is closed now. I am in no place in my life to be concerned about people other than myself. The reality is those same women I felt empathy for were actually in far bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:15 AM
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Probably like a chocolate-vanilla swirl ice cream i.e open to black-white interracial relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:39 PM
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Can you provide examples of the kinds of texts those women are sending?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:29 PM
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many young girls allow themselves to be humiliated and abused Do you mean sexually or in some other sense? The idea of young, innocent-looking women allowing themselves to be sexually degraded by douchebags has historically brought me to despair, but I now feel like there's nothing I can do to stop it and that I need to just focus on advancing in my hobbies instead. And hopefully future generations of men will not partner with the women who engage in such low-class behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:06 PM
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They just didn't get any women because they were pieces of shit. In what sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 03:47 PM
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I'm also an effeminate man and only recently have I really internalized the ideas you've mentioned here. I used to feel resentful at this fact, thinking I would be the happiest if I could essentially live like a child my entire life: no responsibilities, no work ethic, just pure stimulation seeking. But I realize now how mistaken I was - being responsible and working hard feels much better than being codependent and incompetent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:39 PM
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Wow. You are honestly empowering me, with the notion that I don't have to let societal standards define my self-worth. That I can ignore those judgements and expect better for myself regardless. Even if a hot woman were to mistreat me in a relationship, and everyone else thought "well, she has all the value in the relationship, so he can't complain no matter what she does", I can pull the plug on that behavior at any time and live my life only accepting positive treatment from people. Just becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:24 AM
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Do even short, ugly, ND men have more worth and power than is assigned to them by the societal value system? Or must I become a multimillionaire to achieve such value? Asking genuinely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:41 AM
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Sound advice. Really hard to do for average or below-average men but ultimately is there any point ending up in a toxic relationship where you are as miserable, if not more miserable, than when you were single? Even if a person is happier in a toxic relationship than single, there are long-term health issues that come from dealing with that toxicity and they might therefore be healthier avoiding a relationship altogether. I know from my experience with my sibling the resentment that builds and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:27 AM
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A lot of these men are short and autistic. They can't even get their foot in the door with most women I'd imagine. At this rate, it really does feel like nobody (who I find attractive) will ever love me. My life becomes more saddening with each passing year. I never thought I'd end up here. My heart is in the right place. My skeletal structure and my brain are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:06 AM
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That's comforting to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:34 AM
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lol, true. But most guys aren't willing to go through such lengths for more leg length.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:44 PM
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I know. I misread his earlier comment, and thought he had mistakenly included height on a list of traits that can be intentionally overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:10 PM
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I wasn't offended (I am short though 😔), I just felt his comment didn't make sense logistically because I thought he was discussing guys in their early 20's "overcoming shortness" by the time they reach their 30's. But after re-reading it and seeing he mentioned "teens", I edited my comment to retract that sentiment, since it's very possible for some short teens to become tall adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:39 PM
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Did you mean to reply to me, or the user I replied to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:02 PM
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Looking back, the comment includes the words "teens" (which I either missed before, or it was edited into the comment later) so I think in that case it makes sense to include being short on that list since some short guys will become tall as they transition from teenhood to adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 12:31 PM
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I never noticed the word "teens" in his post earlier, I only saw "early 20's". Now that I see the former term there I think his comment makes sense, for the reasons you elaborated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 12:20 PM
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True, was just a bit confusing seeing it on the earlier list since the next sentence was about "overcoming their issues".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:09 AM
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Okay, that's how I interpreted your earlier comment. It was just a bit odd seeing height mentioned as the only immutable attribute within a list of traits that could be worked on, but I agree that lack of social inexperience is not the only factor which results in continued lack of dating success for men in their 30's. Edit: Just saw you mentioned "teens" in the earlier comment, which you either edited later or I simply never noticed earlier, but in either case being "short" is more fitting to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:07 AM
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Yeah, it was strange they included that on their list. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and wait for them to clarify why they did so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:22 PM
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awkward, shy, short Being "short" should not be included on that list, since it's not within the man's control. Edit: Just saw you mentioned "teens", which you either edited later or I simply never noticed earlier, but in either case being "short" is more fitting to be on that list now since it will definitely be "overcome" for at least some people as they transition from teenhood to adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 09:51 PM
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Most women also aren't these dystopic harpies that will cast you down for the smallest infraction, in fact if they like you they'll give you a LOT of leeway for your 'eccentric' behavior. But how do we make them like us if we are not socially smooth in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 09:30 PM
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One female friend even made it her own personal quest to make me admit that I was a closeted gay man and would constantly hound me about it for months. That's toxic behavior, hope she reformed her ways or you cut her out of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 09:25 PM
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she will overlook minor blunders, or even see them as cute and endearing Does this really happen? Even for men who don't look like models?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 09:13 PM
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Yeah viewing it as a spectrum seems accurate. And I wish that women would be more honest about their preferences, whether stating them online or in-person, rather than trying to manage their image or avoid hurting men's feelings with the truth. Being honest with men about their preferences might cause some hurt in the moment, but the more that reality is accepted and internalized the more peaceful a man can become towards it; on the other hand, feeding men false narratives about what women find …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:21 AM
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I previously was someone who would be described by the terminology of this place as "bluepilled", in the sense of being totally naive and thinking that "the most important thing in the world is to have a pure heart - so long as you have a pure heart then romance will come your way". I read stories here and the rest of the Manosphere about "Chad", and how he is the only man who has success with women. I didn't believe any of it, I found it all so absurd that it was actually comical to me, that re…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 11:32 PM
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Yup, men absolutely do not give their all for the ‘sweet, low-maintenance girl’, at least not the vast majority I must be an outlier then because I'd love a woman like that. I would make her feel so cherished. Whereas a materialistic or status-fixated woman is not someone that I would enjoy spending time with. Practice girlfriend is a real thing. What do you mean by a "practice girlfriend"? Men who treat a girlfriend as if she were merely there for him to practise the skills required in a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 07:28 PM
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Actually, I agree with you and revise my earlier statement: social media can only reflect the mental and emotional profiles of the individuals using it. For example, insecure people who are desperate for acceptance within in-person settings will likely continue the same behaviors in online settings (unless anonymity is present); without the cloak of anonymity, online spaces largely become extensions of in-person spaces. I imagine that insecurity is the primary driver of conformity within communi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:08 PM
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Yeah my comment was somewhat in jest - I don't think it's a more serious issue than chronic loneliness or the other mental health issues people discuss on here; but it does highlight the way that social media in general has pressured many individuals into conforming to larger trends, even within online spaces. And I hope to see that phenomenon decrease over time, even if that's just wishful thinking on my part.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:52 PM
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Great idea. Perhaps the main character has a neurodivergent friend who has very positive intentions and is only looking for a monogamous long-term relationship, but nobody gives them a chance because of the "weird" vibe they give off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:25 PM
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generic office quote wasteland A very real problem, that rarely seems to be discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:16 PM
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Do you have any tips? How do you meet women in general? Also, is your face handsome?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:08 PM
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And outside of the internet, you'd be surprised how many women don't mind short or broke, and lots like shy You've given me so much hope. Maybe the internet really does only represent a subset of the preferences found within the population at large. Is this remark based on your own firsthand experiences? As is often talked about here, look at FDS for examples of that kinda shit. In addition to the widespread racism which was normalized there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:12 PM
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I'm glad you mentioned this. Yeah, I honestly feel pretty bad when I see manosphere people dunking on single mothers and fat women. Like, those aren't my preferences in a romantic partner either, but why must they be so mean to them? What harm have they do to you? Personally, the first emotion I feel when I see or think of single moms is empathy, because I imagine that's not an easy life (especially at a younger age) and have seen Youtube videos featuring compilations of single mothers venting o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 04:26 PM
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Thanks for such a thorough response. It really helps me gain a sense of what kinds of women are out there. I believe so, yes. There are women who really get off on being adored, worshipped even. There are also "pillow princesses" (sometimes self-described as such) who don't want to put in effort in bed, they just want to lay back and be pleasured by their partner That is exactly the dynamic I'm seeking. To worship my partner, such that all the focus is on giving her maximal pleasure (which isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 01:28 PM
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Thank you for the advice. It's not every day that a resident sex gawd shares his sagely wisdom with a total newbie like me. My question for you is whether you think it would be okay to pleasure a woman exclusively through oral? I ask this because I consider myself to be on the asexual spectrum, meaning I don't feel attracted to the idea of having sex, it honestly seems like a strange act to me, one that I'd largely be doing for my partner's sake or to satisfy my curiosity. Additionally, I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:18 AM
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These are really interesting, important discussions regarding the concrete future of society. Much better than the usual "hypergamy statistics" and evopsych-related studies that are shared here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 06:32 PM
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I am so sad over not having experienced "young love". It burns a hole deep within my psyche, a hole which no other experience can likely fill. I had girls interested in me in middle school that I could have pursued, but I didn't like them back so I didn't. Then highschool happened and my autistic behaviors were no longer able to pass for "quirky child" mannerisms and made me stand out as a social oddity. Then puberty happened and my child-like appearance (which up to that point had gotten me so …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:50 AM
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Did you find being with virgins endearing or exciting in any way, or would you have much preferred to be with experienced men? backwards, prudish culture I wouldn't consider American culture to be prudish, it's inundated with sexual messaging across music, television, movies and so on. Also, any man who tried to get "*dominant" with me without my consent Can you provide examples of what you consider to be acceptable dominant behaviors from men, and unacceptable dominant behaviors from men? It ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:10 AM
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Do you think you're the exception or the norm in that regard? Do you think it can be cute if the hypothetical man in question has no experience at all (but has read books on the subject) and is shy and allows the woman to make advances onto him and guide the interaction? Like, he cares for the woman's pleasure a lot but also feels it is immoral to be dominant towards her, plus it's a new world for him so he'd rather let the woman directly teach him what she likes rather than just jump in there h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:50 AM
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I have an instinctive aversion to men dominating women. It sucks because that's what most women seem to want. But when I see a man dominating a woman, I feel like he's abusing her and is committing a crime for which he should be arrested. I have to somehow let go of these ideas, I'm not sure where I picked them up in the first place. I guess because women are so soft and delicate-looking on the outside, and men are the opposite, so when I see a man being even slightly forceful towards the women …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:31 AM
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Have you heard your female friends say the same? Does that preference extend to men leading outside of the bedroom as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:13 PM
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I guess FWB's are more understandable, since the arrangement isn't meant to mirror the dynamics of a conventional relationship. I'd be very surprised if it were to happen in relationships, on the other hand. However, do each of the guy's FWB's know about his other FWB's? And you're saying they stay with him despite that knowledge, simply because of how attractive he is? My only consolation for that knowledge would be the possibility of the women in those arrangements also having multiple male FW…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:55 PM
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Wow, I'm a virgin but this seems like such a good description of proper bedroom etiquette. I feel like I understand most bedroom techniques just from reading this comment, it really painted a mental picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:48 PM
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had to take the lead Is it a turnoff for most women if the man doesn't take the lead?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:41 PM
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Well, what I meant was that we can try to care about the other person's words as opposed to merely listening for key words or phrases that will indicate what an appropriate next reply will be. But I agree that if we truly find the topic or delivery boring then faking it is the only recourse. Making money is something I am trying to learn how to do, but these skills are important regardless (and can also help with making contacts that lead to making money).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:38 PM
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Do you mind elaborating what it is about long-term monogamy that doesn't work for you? Are you mainly interested in "physical relations" with your temporary partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:14 PM
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What is the difference between "dating casually forever" and "a serious LTR"? Do you not wish to be with one partner for the rest of your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:03 PM
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Oh I see, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:19 PM
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What was wrong with their comments? The original commenter wasn't being mean, she was being honest. Even though the reality she was highlighting is incredibly depressing to read, as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:23 PM
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How would those woman be accepting of other women having access to the man they have such strong feelings for? Most men and women are not okay with sharing their romantic partner, except for a very small percentage of people who engage in polyamorous relationships (including swingers and related lifestyles). Many people who attempt open-relationships and polyamory find that they become too jealous seeing their partner romantically involved with another person and decide such an arrangement is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:38 PM
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I have difficulty believing that modern women are actually knowingly sharing a man with one or more other women. This sounds like a narrative reflecting men's deepest fears (I'm a man so I know how much the concept of "soft harems" depresses me) but I don't see actual evidence that would make me believe it is true. Regarding the 63%-30% statistic, I think it's because women responders assume they're in a relationship while male responders don't, and also the tendency of women in their 20's to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:15 PM
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Wish I understood this back in highschool, when I was so desperate for peer acceptance that I downgraded myself into the role of a class clown for the sake of receiving it. Now I'm working on developing actual social skills, like eye contact, active listening, not interrupting people, genuine interest in their responses, body language monitoring, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:08 PM
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Just curious why you only want something casual?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:50 PM
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I feel bad for the future husbands of those women, unless those husbands end up being a former f-boy themselves, and is therefore partially accountable for making women behave that way. But presuming their husband will be a simpler guy who never slept around like that, I think he deserves much better than a wife who did.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:49 PM
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Do you mind elaborating on what the women you dated taught you regarding relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:42 PM
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guy staying at her house for 2 weeks after I left the island. She grew up with him. I said sounds nice. Then she goes "Just so you know...I will never hook up with him". But why was he staying at her house then? Just wondering.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:52 AM
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Are most men really so averse to LTR's? That's all I've wanted, from adolescence onwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:44 AM
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If a person is willing to lie about their body count (i.e their entire sexual history prior to the relationship), what else would they be willing to lie to their partner about? And if those same people claim to feel proud or neutral about their sexual past, why are they resorting to lying at all? Either because are not actually pleased with their sexual past, or because they are prepared to manipulate their partner's expectations of them at the expense of honesty. Both of which would require tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:41 AM
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I appreciate your post. I think it's a really important message. Heterosexual men want to be loved by a woman, but they shouldn't be willing to fabricate a persona in order to receive that love. If they do follow that strategy, the women they pursue will only be able to fall for the mask they wear, and not the person behind it. Also, they themselves simply won't feel happy receiving love from a woman while in their alternate persona because putting on an alternste automatically disconnects you f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:36 AM
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Yeah, I agree with you and understand your frustration. I am not one of those guys who think women must be virgins but men can do as they please. However, the unfortunate part seems to be how few women vocalize a preference for male virgins, thus encouraging men to partake in casual sex. I think hookup culture has harmed human society, and we should try and promote a model centered on monogamous romance instead. I know there are flaws in that model too, hence why we ended up with hookup culture …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:05 PM
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You wouldn't prefer them to avoid that lifestyle, and try to find a life partner earlier rather than later?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:43 PM
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Not details about it, just the number of partners. I don't consider a single number to be a lot of detail, but it would nonetheless horrify most parents of previous generations (aside from those who partook in the "free love" movement of the 60's, perhaps). Women and men alike should think about whether their pursuit of casual sex aligns with the values their parents instilled within them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:19 PM
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Why don't those women just follow the obvious strategy of not sleeping with men until months and months of a committed relationship? Why do they put themselves through such predictable cycles of disappointment and trauma?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:53 PM
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This is so heartbreaking to learn about. Do only the trashy-acting women do this, or do even the innocent-seeming women that come across as "wifey material" use their body to get into FWB arrangements with good-looking/high-status men? Have you seen any examples of this phenomena in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:47 PM
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Can anybody explain why marriage is desired by women (and men) in today's era? What are the benefits that being married offers, as opposed to just being in a long-term relationship? Is it the symbolic aspect of marriage, or are there economic incentives as well? Probably a dumb question but I genuinely don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:54 PM
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good qualities and red flags Do you mind listing some of the biggest examples of each? play the field Is it possible to "play the field" while keeping my virginity intact? You just mean going on dates with different women right? Eventually, you'll find one. You gave me optimism by stating this so directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:16 PM
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As you said, your love language is touch. What if hers isn't? Like you, I enjoy physical touch. But not everyone else does Yeah, you're right. Have to find a woman who also has physical touch as her love language. Agree with you about receiving gifts - a long cuddle would be a greater offering than most gifts for me (unless it was a particular item I was planning to buy myself at some point). abuse/trauma, reassuring hugs won't do much for her when you raise your voice out of frustration and sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:13 PM
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“body count doesn’t matter!” If they truly believe it doesn't matter, they should be comfortable sharing the news of how many men they've hooked up with to their parents or other close family members (assuming their parents wouldn't disown them or hurt them in response). I doubt they'd ever do so, because their parents likely didn't raise them to be so liberal in giving random men access to their body, and the prospect of confronting that upbringing head-on would likely trigger a lot of shame wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:04 PM
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So what should good men (i.e men who strive to be good) do? How do they find a wifey-tier woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:39 PM
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nice phrase dude
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:28 PM
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Here's a question: If you take one of those women who has difficulty feeling loved, and you sit on the bed against the wall or headboard, then ask her to come sit beside you on the bed, then gently reposition her body such that her back is facing towards you, then gently pull her body back towards yours such that she is sitting on your lap and the back of her head is against your neck, then wrap both arms around her neck like you're guarding her, then begin to plant kisses in her hair and her ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:18 PM
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My advice to fellow men is to discover a hobby that you genuinely enjoy (or feel some inkling of interest in, which can hopefully grow over time) and try to immerse yourself in that. For me, that's cooking. I used to hate cooking, viewing it as a taxing chore that interrupted my time watching movies or doing other activities. I didn't put any heart into anything I cooked, I expended the minimal effort possible to make the most bland meals imaginable. But at some point, I started focusing more wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:58 AM
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It's unrealistic in today's era, but it isn't a fetish. Men are romantics at our core, and the idea of being with someone who has never loved anyone else resonates with us deeply. I used to think I was the only man who felt this way but the internet showed me that most (or alot) of men do. Strict monogamy is the template which every traditional romance tale follows (think of any classic Disney story, for example), and in my opinion that's because monogamy resonates with the human heart more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:40 AM
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This describes me very well. I've never cared for material items (except as a kid with a fondness for toys). I had difficulty understanding the guys around me who actually care about luxury watches, cars, clothes, and so on. But reconsidering it as a tactic to impress women, it makes perfect sense. Though personally I'd rather just find myself a sweetheart who is more enriched by simple pleasures like books and cooking a nice recipe over fancy material goods. Do many women like that exist out th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:22 AM
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Having sex with tons of women won’t make a difference in your understanding of women. Agreed, whereas doing it with one or a few woman in long-term relationships might enable a man to take the time to better understand female anatomy and how it operates. However, having good observation skills, willingness to observe and learn, curiosity for human psyche, human psychology, curiosity for women’s romance : books, movies, … willingness to listen and learn from women. Willingness to learn about the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:51 PM
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LOL from my perspective I was trying to paint a picture of how cute a little pooch can be, but I'll take your feedback in stride and not use that adjective in future. I don't want to make others uncomfortable, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:16 PM
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Often said by slutty men who hope it's true. I've personally heard it primarily from women. Would you say that generally speaking a virgin woman will prefer a virgin man, while a non-virgin woman will prefer a non-virgin man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:59 AM
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Wow, do you consider yourselves outliers amongst the female population? Because the mainstream narrative that I always hear is "women want experienced men who know what they're doing", with "experienced" not meaning a "man-whore" but a guy who has been with a few women before and has become very skilled at delivering orgasms to women as a result. Can you elaborate on why you and your friends prefer virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:38 AM
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As a woman, do you have a desired N-count range for a long-term boyfriend? Also is a man who has all of the qualities you desire in a partner, but happens to be a virgin, a big turnoff for you and your female friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:27 AM
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As an ugly autist, I'm glad that you were born with "handsome" genes and were therefore able to experience the social/romantic/sexual life that most men with our affliction are not able to. I just hope you won't look down on the rest of us autists who aren't similarly handsome or successful with women. Not condoning the cheating part though, just the general success you've had with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:18 AM
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Not chubby, but she has a bit more fat on her than what people traditionally think of as "slim". In my view, it goes: waif, skinny, slim, thick, chubby, fat. I'd consider Goodnight Moon to be in the "thick" category, and I think it's a very attractive body type.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:14 PM
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This is such a common issue. Being a "people pleasure" is actually just a form of manipulation that isn't so in your face. People pleasers are trying to get you to feel the way they would like you to feel by misleading you about their own preferences You are so right. I really struggle with being considerate for others, while still being true to my own opinions and emotions. For a long time, I believed that being "considerate of others" meant that you had to completely discard all of your own th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:37 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:15 PM
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Thank you so much. I also appreciate your own efforts to try and help the men here become less jaded and more optimistic about their romantic futures.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:13 PM
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But then why are women so upset about the proliferation of Red Pill? I just saw a post on here today with a woman saying she's upset because Red Pill stuff works, and she witnessed it firsthand last night To my understanding, women don't like it when men try to reduce seduction into a formula, and women into targets for this formula to be applied on. They have issues with concepts like negging, dread game, going hot/cold, and other seduction strategies that are promoted within the Red Pill (I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:33 PM
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bump it How do I do that? If it helps, this is the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/12mq13x/how\_would\_the\_autistic\_man\_featured\_in\_this\_video/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:37 PM
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Visualization is such a powerful technique for changing our outlook. You might enjoy Neville Goddard (r/NevilleGoddard), if you haven't been exposed to him already. I already have visualized lots of scenarios with my ideal girlfriend, but I like the way that yours features chronological progression. I'll give it a try. The result of successful visualization practice is our changed mental relationship towards whatever scenario we visualized; in the case of visualizing something we desire, perform…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:34 PM
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You're right, I've edited my comment to remove the section I considered creepy. Having relationship fantasies that aren't being expressed in real-life gets lonely sometimes, hence the desire to share those fantasies online. Unless the other parts of my comment sounded creepy too...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:20 PM
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This is probably true, in general. A person who appears as valuable as possible in as many areas as possible (looks, abilities, finances, etc) will receive more admiration and adulation than if the same individual experienced any level of struggle in any of those areas. The second version of the person will be more relatable but less dateable, better friendship material but worse relationship material. We have to max out our positive traits, and minimize our negative ones, essentially. The indiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:16 PM
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This is a very important point. I'm one of the guys who are often trapped in people-pleasing, which manifests from my intense anxiety at the prospect of being rude to someone else, which then crowds out all of the other emotions and opinions that I am constituted of and drives me to putting on a performative veneer of politeness in order to feel like I'm not "hurting" the other person through being rude to them. Many of my responses to other people happen on autopilot, I'm not even thinking abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:49 PM
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Even the ones who sent me rape threats on DM which was deplorable. They were too angry to think straight. You and I aren't enemies. I commend you for having the emotional composure to be able to make a statement like this. Most people don't have such emotional self-control. Like me, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:45 PM
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I think charisma is too difficult to pin down for anyone to identify what exactly it is or to be able to bring into themselves. I've seen extremely charismatic people in my life and on-screen, like the Bollywood actor Shahrukh Khan for example, who was never conventionally handsome but became the biggest superstar of any other Indian actor/actress due to his unparalleled level of charisma. I'm not a fanboy of his, but I think he's one of the most charismatic and magnetic people I've ever seen an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:43 PM
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and had attention while young will basically never lose confidence Some of those guys are actually pretty insecure in themselves, trust me. Elite athletes are comparing themselves to even better elite athletes, and thereby not admiring themselves the way a non-athlete would. Models (male or female) might compare themselves to other models, and end up feeling more insecure about their appearance than others who are far less beautiful than them do. It's not really possible to have it if you've mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:30 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:06 PM
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That is so messed up. You should screenshot those conversations and send it to the mods here. Hopefully those users will be banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:00 PM
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I think it's unrealistic to suggest that there are "natural Chads" who have been that way all of their life and will always remain that way their whole life, and that men who aren't "natural Chads" cannot change their lifestyle such that they become a lot more productive in a way that isn't merely performative for the sake of female validation. I think pretty much every man goes through ups and downs in their lives, and that what matters to women is not whether the man has "always exhibited high…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:57 PM
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5'11" is an amazing height, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:48 PM
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Hi, when you get the chance can you please respond to my Mod Mail about why my recent PPD post was removed? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:40 PM
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Note: This post is a ramble. Just ignore it. You're right. I need to become much more focused and disciplined if I want to get my forever-girlfriend (which is used as a negative term in women's circles, referring to a woman who wants to be a wife but whose partner is not proposing to her, but in my case I just don't see the point of getting married and want her to instead remain my girlfriend for the rest of my lifetime). But I have been struggling for more than a decade with being focused. Mind…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:37 PM
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I think women's bodies look so cute regardless of whether they have abs or a small pooch. Women can look beautiful to me at different body fat percentages, whether they're slim without working out, toned from a fit lifestyle, or have a bit more fat on themselves like the ASMRtist "Goodnight Moon" in this picture. Honestly, I might even have a preference for slightly thicker builds on women just because physical touch is my love language and a girl with more fat on her has more to touch. The fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:08 PM
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Same. Add neurodivergence to the mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:31 AM
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How come nobody has responded to my post? 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:43 PM
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Yeah, I need to get back onto my workout routine. Stopped going to the gym back in October 2022, due to disliking having to drive and spend gas money to go to the gym. I've lost a lot of muscle. 8 pounds of bodyweight in total, some of it fat mass and some of it lean mass. I'll get back into the routine starting tomorrow. My face is quite ugly and I'm short, but I have somewhat broad shoulders so I can at least give myself a nice V-taper look if I work out consistently. I have no female friends,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:26 AM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:59 PM
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How come so many men like the idea of romantic relationships in which they embody a paternal role to an innocent woman (often younger than him), but women who want to take on a maternal role with an innocent boyfriend seems to be an extremely rare phenomena?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:56 PM
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Does the "caretaker niche" truly exist amongst women? Do you have firsthand experience confirming it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:50 PM
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What is the solution(s) for men like ourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:48 PM
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Good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:14 PM
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Your statements ring true. Wish I'd understood this sooner. I have a decent wit, but I fumble joke deliveries frequently and generally sound awkward whenever I speak. You've painted me a picture of the kind of person I need to work on becoming. I think I can be funny and outgoing to an extent, but reading social cues and knowing how to respond appropriately in real-time is the challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:27 AM
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I think you're right. I was previously reading a romance novel called The Madness of Lord Ian Mackenzie , which features an autistic male hero as the heroine's love interest. You should see the descriptions given of him: Beth looked past Mather at the tall man who’d entered the box behind him, and her entire world stopped. Lord Ian was a big man, his body solid muscle, the hand that reached to hers huge in a kid leather glove. His shoulders were wide, his chest broad, and the dim light touched h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:14 AM
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Men feel protective instincts towards women and children, whereas women only feel those protective instincts towards children. I think it's a case of biological wiring, rather than socialization. I know personally that I would definitely be willing to sacrifice my life to keep my sister, mother, female cousin or a hypothetical girlfriend out of harm's way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 04:39 AM
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So I'm completely delusional for carrying the fantasy that some women find neurodivergent men to be endearing, and that we bring out the inner maternal instincts within women that makes them want to care for us. Reality is hitting me now. Just earlier I took a bunch of photos of myself, and seeing my side profile in particular especially emphasizes to me just how exceptionally hideous I am. Add neurodivergence to that mix, alongside my track record of abysmal failure within the social, education…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 04:21 AM
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No decent woman wants to be with a man who is like that. Even if he's not a misogynist, and will treat her like a Goddess? Not in the sense of "simping" for her, (because simping comes from a place of lack of self-esteem) but in the sense of showing her the utmost devotion because of how much he cares for her? Just because he was born with a cognitive disability that makes his life worse in every aspect, and despite his caring personality and desire to devote himself to one woman, he'll never be…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 04:12 AM
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So you don't personally believe there's even a subset of women who find the idea of a clumsy, awkward, shy neurodivergent boy who is clearly cognitively "different" and doesn't know what to do in social situations but still tries his hardest regardless, to be extremely endearing? Someone whose behavior resembles that of a child, but in the body of an adult? Because that's the fantasy I sell to myself, that many women find my neurological differences to be very cute and it activates their materna…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:50 AM
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Do you mean to say that if I broadcast the fact that I'm only looking for a serious, long-term relationship, women will instantly perceive me as more attractive? Because I am very much only looking for a serious relationship, I can't even bring myself to fantasize about a hookup scenario because it feels so hollow and pointless. But my assumption was that only the top-tier men get to be in relationships with pretty women, in the same way that only top-tier men can casually hookup with pretty wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 12:49 PM
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The standard for men in terms of looks is indeed much higher, but that's not a reflection of women's high standards - it's a reflection of how humans in general, both men and women, only perceive men to be physically attractive when they possess traits that are either: a) rare on men For example, having a handsome face (a face whose beauty could be considered on par with the face of a beautiful woman) as a man is extremely rare - biology simply doesn't prioritize beauty when it comes to the male…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 12:31 PM
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That is truly messed up. I really hope you never have to experience those incidents again. Perhaps travelling places with friends (if you have any) will help you avoid such encounters.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:36 PM
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Do you think a man having relatively broad shoulders can ever make up for being short (5'8")? I think height is much more important than broad shoulders, and can never be replaced by it - would you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:33 PM
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Do you think men can learn this ability to some extent, especially those on the spectrum? Does reading social cues just come effortlessly to women, or was it their life experiences which caused them to hone this ability?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 11:16 PM
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I sat down at my desk quickly and didn't fully look over at the other women, but in the most recent incident I think that the woman giggling at me was sitting with a group who were also giggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 10:05 PM
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but making money is a joke. Try to be worth at least $5M by age 22 it is very very easy will take you at most a week or two. Are you joking here? How is it done?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 09:10 PM
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I posted this question in a previous thread, but received no replies, so I'm trying again: What does it mean when a woman in public that you've never spoken to before smiles and giggles at you? Because this has happened to me several times now, and I'm not sure if the women in question are either: 1) signalling some kind of interest in me 2) making fun of me I used to think it was 1), but now I think it was probably 2) all along. I'm not tall, handsome or charismatic enough for random women to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 09:08 PM
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I don't understand why neurotypical women don't find us autistic men cute. We have so much affection to give, and our lack of social fluency when attempting to deliver that affection to them only makes us cuter, in my opinion. Our hearts are in the right place. We are generally more concerned with improving the world than with acquiring social status, since status is a foreign concept to most of us. Like, why don't women think of us as being sweethearts? Don't they recognize how positive our int…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:36 PM
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Honestly seems like great advice to me. I am currently working on shifting the focus of my life from romance to spirituality. Currently reading a book on energy work called "Your Hands Can Heal You". It has been a great read so far, and I am already seeing results. One of the key principles it mentions is that negative emotions need to be felt in order for the energy body to function properly, and after reading that I realized that I had been living under a paradigm of suppressing all negative e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:15 AM
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Reflecting on questions like these makes me feel quite hopeless.
/r/AllPillDebate23/03/23 06:57 PM
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Late response here. I want to firstly clarify that my desire for a virginal women isn't born solely of insecurity (thought that is part of it), but mainly due to me being a hardcore romantic and desiring that my partner and I both be each other's first loves. That said, I think your advice regarding "moving the imagined limit" and "stretching yourself" is certainly something I should consider. I should try to work on becoming more open to being with a non-virgin, perhaps even a highly experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:42 PM
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I posted this question in a previous thread, but received no replies, so I'm trying again: What does it mean when a woman in public that you've never spoken to before smiles and giggles at you? Because this has happened to me several times now, and I'm not sure if the women in question are either: 1) signalling some kind of interest in me 2) making fun of me I used to think it was 1), but now I think it was probably 2) all along. I'm not tall, handsome or charismatic enough for random women to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 04:59 PM
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we don’t need to be ‘attractive’, to a whole bunch of women. Just one. Really accurate and overlooked advice here. As long as we can find just one woman whom we consider to be girlfriend material that also wants to be our girlfriend, then we will be set.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 04:48 PM
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What's it like being 6'5", jacked and handsome? Do women stare, smile and bat their eyelashes at you everywhere you go? Please share your stories. Most men will never know what it's like to be in your position.
/r/AllPillDebate23/03/23 04:40 PM
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That's relieving. I definitely didn't mentally or emotionally mature as fast as most of my peers, I struggled and fell way behind them and continued failing despite earnest efforts otherwise, so eventually I just gave up and withdrew myself into escapist outlets for a long time, since I felt I had no hope of being successful through any conventional career path anyway so might as well sedate the pain by endlessly watching movies and mindlessly browsing social media. But I've made progress since …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 12:14 AM
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or just never had an ounce of grit or ambition in them. Do you think it's possible to develop these qualities? Because I am the definition of a "loser" by other people's standards (no anime or videogames, though), even though I think it's not purely laziness but also cognitive shortcomings that have held me back.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 07:50 PM
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I just want to say this subreddit has recently become a favorite of mine. It's just so comfy. Like, even though the posts I've seen here tend to be created by men who lean towards red and black pill, there seems to be a lot of diversity of thought on here and I love to see users with so many different kinds of "pills" in their flair. Regardless of the particular viewpoints we hold, we're all hanging out and having a good time with eachother. I'm still here for dating advice primarily, but in gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:53 AM
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You have really cool eyes. Hooded, with a "fox" shape. But all humans, men and women, look better when their face is at a lower fat percentage, which is the advice I'm giving to you. Your cool eyes will stand out even more once your facial width has decreased.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:49 AM
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TL:DR: What does it mean if random women I've never spoken to before giggle or smile at me? I am neurodivergent, officially diagnosed with ADHD and probably also have undiagnosed autism. I desperately want to behave neurotypical but unfortunately my neurodiversity is too severe to successfully pass for one. As a result, you could probably "clock" me a few seconds after seeing me, recognizing that something was "off" about me. Throughout my adolescence, I've had moments where women would giggle o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:30 AM
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Can you describe how physically attractive your brother is? Like, you compared him to Usher but I personally wouldn't consider Usher to be handsome. Is your brother able to get away with abusive behaviors because of how astonishingly handsome he is, or is it moreso the confidence in how he carries himself and his diverse skillset that women find irresistible?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:51 AM
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Does your older brother ever share stories of what it's like to be a "Chad"? I wish I had a sibling who could tell me such stories, and also give me dating advice if possible.
/r/AllPillDebate18/03/23 03:43 AM
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I will respond to you tomorrow :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:20 AM
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Me too. Buy that's why posts like yours are invaluable: to teach those men what they presently do not recognize.
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 04:20 AM
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I really like your comment, and it's advice that definitely applies to a long-time people-pleaser like myself. So thank you for affirming the path I am trying to walk down.
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 03:18 AM
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You're right. I dislike autistic behaviors and I'm enamored by neurotypical behaviors, which means I naturally want to be with a neurotypical woman but if those women hold the same attitude as I do then they'd naturally disqualify me as a potential suitor, and I ultimately can't blame them no matter how dejected I feel. I'm open to autistic women, but the attraction will be far less than with a neurotypical women who socializes as effortlessly as she breathes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:50 AM
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I'd respectfully prefer to date people who can balance out my own shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:10 AM
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Those are the men who receive the majority of the matches. Incredibly lucky individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:15 AM
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That is heartbreaking. Do you also believe a man needs to be extroverted to be not-boring to women? I'm realizing that I feel best when I'm not talking. I just don't express myself well through speech, and mostly speak out of social obligation. I'd prefer to be quiet most of the time, but will women find that boring?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:43 PM
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What is the solution for men on the spectrum? Are there any neurotypical women out there who find guys like us to be cute, sweet, endearing and boyfriend material? Women who are willing to lead the relationship, who recognize that they are the ones who understand how to navigate the world better than we do, who feel such a strong maternal instinct towards us that makes them want to help guide us through a society that we were not equipped to be successful in? Or do they only want extroverted, ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:25 PM
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It is saddening to learn that women don't ascribe moral virtue to male virginity. I think I need to dramatically alter my worldview, before my naivety leaves me cold and alone. I don't want to become, nor am I capable of becoming, a smooth-talking, masculine man who charms the pants off of women with ease. I was hoping that women would think of me more as a "boy" than a man, and would note the different vibe my neurodivergence causes me to give off, and find it "cute" and to fancy a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:51 PM
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Do women really dislike "good guys"? Is it that bad out here? Even if he's self-respecting, doesn't view her as being above him, and doesn't tolerate bad behavior from her? With the caveat that he's not as masculine as the jocks or frat guys of the world. But even though he cares about her happiness and wants to make her feel loved, she would prefer the more masculine guys who don't care about her or treat her with respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:10 PM
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Okay, thanks for sharing your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:10 PM
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So in your mind, virginal men are not more "pure" than non-virginal men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:04 PM
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Do you find the idea of a virginal man to be "cute"? Like, if there was a man you had a crush on, and you discovered him to be a virgin, would that just make you like him even more? Have you heard any other women in your life express a preference for virginal men? I associate virginity with purity, and I value purity a lot. Many men feel the same. But I am just so confused by the seeming lack of value that women place towards male virginity, with most women's self-reported preference being a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:57 PM
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If you truly live in such a way that social currency / stigma / acceptance and praise is meaningless to you, then you are in a better place than most people. I'm really naive. Neurodivergent. My thought-process is very different to the average neurotypical person. But where I previously thought that was a good thing, I now think of myself as a fool who should've learnt the ways of human society much sooner. Unfortunately, we do not live in a bubble and your life will be immensely easier if you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 04:31 AM
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Yes, but you'd hopefully do so on the basis of preference rather than prejudice. It's your life and you can do as you like, but I wouldn't want to live in a society where the majority of people excluded entire ethnicities from their dating pool on the basis of preconceived biases against that demographic (prejudices which would naturally extend beyond the sexual marketplace, and would color their perception of that ethnic group altogether), as opposed to merely not finding the ethnic features as…
/r/AllPillDebate10/03/23 04:03 AM
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It also doesn't mean I'm gonna take the first tolerable one to come along and pigeonhole him into a boyfriend, because that's a disservice to both of us. Wise words. Comments like this, more often written by women than men, display a keen level of emotional intelligence that I use to inform my own attitude towards dating. Namely, that selecting the right partner is extremely important and something to do with extreme carefulness; which might seem obvious on paper, but is quite the opposite of ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:51 AM
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The issue is that men and women both give a huge amount of social currency to men who can consistently get laid with willing partners (the hotter the better). Do you consider me foolish for not realizing the relevance of the social hierarchy in determining one's own social status, and that people's treatment of you is directly related to your level of social status? Because I used to ignore those ideas, and optimistically believed that if I'm simply kind and honest and good-hearted then people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:41 AM
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Depends on what you mean by "aggressing against someone". Would you consider an employer being less likely (or outright refusing) to hire a particular ethnic group due to his pre-existing racial prejudices as "aggressing" against them? I would. Physical violence and verbal insults are not the only unacceptable manifestations of racial prejudices.
/r/AllPillDebate10/03/23 12:49 AM
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Racial preferences are fine, racial prejudices are not - a distinction worth highlighting.
/r/AllPillDebate09/03/23 04:53 AM
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I’m his friend but I’m also his partner and he enjoys that I’m someone that he can talk to and not have to wear a mask for. This is extremely important for me. Your relationship sounds quite nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 08:18 AM
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I so badly wish I could be 6 feet tall. 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:43 PM
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Well, different cultures have different standards and the exact height cutoff is definitely arbitrary to some extent. It's not a coincidence that the American height cutoff is the first number which starts with 6 or the European height cutoff is the first number in the 180's. If we listed height exclusively using inches, the height cutoff would probably be 70 inches (i.e 5 ft 10) rather than 72 inches (i.e 6 ft) since 70 inches is the first number in the 70-range. However, I do think the women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:39 PM
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Yes but in your original comment you said the opposite, hence my response. I understand now what you meant and that you included the "nerdy introvert" example alongside other, rarer phenomena in order to save time and comment space - but your phrasing in the original comment presents the opposite meaning of what you believe, hence the confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:29 PM
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No, men can't understand women's humor If a large percentage of women are apparently screening out sub-6-foot men on dating apps which offer height filters, doesn't that demonstrate their lack of desire to entertain any romantic suitor who is less than 6 feet tall? I don't see anything humorous about it, I think it's a major preference of theirs and a valid one for them to have. I'm not upset about contemporary women's height preferences, I'm merely commenting on it as phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:20 PM
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Wow, I really hope the number is that high (or higher). I would have thought it was closer to maybe 15%, if anything. Nerdy introverts have so much affection to give. However, I wouldn't exactly call something that is found in up to 1/3 of the population (according to the upper bound of your estimated range) to be "rare", which you described it as in your previous comment. If up between 1/4 to 1/3 of women are into nerdy introverts, then that's definitely something for men to aspire towards rath…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:12 PM
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You may be right, since I don't have many examples I could use to support my view, and only shared my opinion in passing. I could definitely be wrong on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:48 PM
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I see. I didn't need a lengthy explanation, you've given me a new data-point to consider so thank you regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:51 AM
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Adam Driver? I personally don't consider him handsome even by civilian standards, let alone celebrity standards. Care to elaborate what you find attractive about him? No judgement, just curiosity. He is tall and has broad shoulders, but his face is simply not handsome to me. I guess the fact you're into Adam Driver and I feel the opposite shows just how varied people's perceptions of physical attractiveness can be (as was your original point), which is a good thing in my opinion since more peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:45 AM
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What is her rationale behind this? Does she happen to find them handsome, or does she focus more on non-physical attributes?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:16 AM
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I have seen this in many street interviews and in popular media, so I believe you are correct. But perhaps the difference is made by how large of an audience a woman shares her opinions with, such that a woman in a larger social group or on a public social media platform is more likely to report preferences which converge to prevailing social trends than if she were just with her closest female friend. I don't view women as a hivemind, but I think that they are more socially-integrated than men …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:14 AM
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Not disputing your point, but perhaps that "sexiest man alive" poll was more of a celebrity popularity contest than an assessment of a man's physical attractiveness? I still think your point could hold true, as it does seem from the outside that women are more concerned with the social gaze than the average man is. Not a hive mind, as that implies lack of ability to think independently, but an instinct to conform to the group rather than do something that could ostracize them from it. Though to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:42 AM
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Interesting. I rarely think about this angle because, well, I'm male and the main aspects of a woman I'm attracted to are appearance, character and mannerisms. The concept of "status" or "power" never plays into it, and I have no idea what those concepts represent to a female POV. I'd need to read a woman's own description of what those attributes mean to her in order to better understand her perspective on this topic, otherwise I'll cluelessly continue going through life under the assumption th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:35 AM
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I too feel this way to some extent, since it was only around 2015 or so that I became exposed to the idea that being 6 feet tall was an extremely desirable trait to have. I'd previously gone my entire life without the perception that tall men were far more successful with women than shorter men, and I always thought it looked rather "cool" when a guy wasn't too much taller than his girlfriend because then they could look into eachother's eyes more easily and there was something intimate about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:19 AM
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some women prefer nerdy introvert, but its rare. Do you mind providing an estimate on the percentage of women you believe have "nerdy introverts" as their "type"? I used to think it was an extremely rare preference too, but then I saw the following comments on the following post and now I'm hopeful that the preference is more prevalent than popular media would have us believe: https://www.reddit.com/r/Splendida/comments/10hzbjw/how_to_attract_masculine_buff_men/j5beq32?utm_medium=android_app&utm…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:04 AM
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In your opinion, is being an average-looking man enough in today's society to enter a long-term monogamous relationship with a moderately-pretty woman? Even after social media has seemingly raised most people's standards for what is considered "beautiful", and the league of partner each individual believes they can realistically obtain? Because the internet has given me the impression that only extremely handsome men are able to land pretty girlfriends now, and my own personal anecdote is that e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:51 AM
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I guess, as someone looking for a virginal woman, we sit at opposite sides of the spectrum. I don't think your views are wrong, they make sense for someone in your circumstances even though someone like myself might not personally be able to hold them. However, while I can understand being accepting of your partner's past, I am still finding it difficult to fathom how you felt comfortable with your partner seeing other men while you were dating her, if my understanding of your earlier post is co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 09:33 PM
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But your partner had already been with under 20 people (so let's say 15 partners, just to pick somewhere inbetween 10 and 20), but you still considered that too inexperienced? I'm just surprised since I would think most people viewed 15 as a high number of past partners even for someone in their 30's. Did you have a set number you wanted her to reach or was it moreso based on behaviors of hers that showed inexperience? Also, how were you able to date her while simultaneously knowing that she was…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:33 PM
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Is this meant to be satirical, essentially presenting a parody of how an average heterosexual man feels towards this issue? Not trying to sound rude or invalidate your experiences, but your story is quite the opposite to how most men feel on this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 02:33 AM
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Oh, okay. To be honest, maybe I need to reform my views and make them more similar to yours. Perhaps I'm living according to a fairy tale ideal that will only bring me more sadness as I try and fail to find it in real life. But if I may ask, do you not feel discomfort at the idea of a woman you love having been with another man?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 02:09 AM
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If not a virgin, what were you referring to by "good girl"? I probably want those same qualities, but accompanied by virginity. You're right though regarding the rarity of virginity and it not guaranteeing positive character attributes in general, but I simply cannot bring myself to lift that requirement at this time - too painful a task.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 01:30 AM
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I would definitely read that novel, if you ever wrote it. It's extremely important to me that I find a virginal woman with a pure heart, and the idea of a woman who appears innocent and modest on the outside but has in reality been intimate with men before is genuinely heartbreaking. I'm paranoid about the possibility of falling for such a woman, especially now that I'm at an age (27) where being a virgin is extremely rare. I consider myself a feminist ally, but am sure these views of mine will …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 12:24 AM
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How does one identify a "good girl"? That's personally what I'm looking for, I'm simply not attracted to anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 11:47 PM
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That's great man, I honestly used to pedastalize romance way more than I currently do. I used to think romance was indispensible to a fulfilled life but now I think I can be happy if I immerse myself in my hobbies. I still want to try dating and have a long-term relationship, but it'll only be one part of my life rather than all of it. I've added that book to my booklist, thanks for the recommendation. Good luck to you in achieving your personal milestones. I'm still in the process of figuring o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 11:39 PM
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Yeah, great advice. I definitely used to be way more desperate than I am now. Ideally I want to have a life which revolves around interests that are unrelated to women, such as cooking, reading, programming, bodybuilding or so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 11:26 PM
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I can't remember or find your original post in this thread, though I did read it before I posted my own comment. I'm just having trouble understanding why someone who is successful with women like yourself has lost the motivation to continue pursuing them. Do you not want to have a long-term relationship with a woman? If not that's fine, but if you want it then I'm sure you could obtain it easily. Like are you more satisfied living life independently now, focusing on hobbies rather than women? T…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 11:21 PM
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Based on reading your post/comment history, you're handsome and have had success with women before - so I'm curious as to why your success stopped? Or is it moreso the derogatory racial attitudes that bothered you and turned you away from dating? That latter part is really disheartining - I know people make mean comments about Indians online, but I wasn't aware that people would literally ghost someone they found attractive after learning they happened to be Indian.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 11:03 PM
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I'll look into it further, since I admittedly don't know much about what plastic surgery entails.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 10:38 PM
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Great advice. Seriously appreciate you taking the time to write all of that out. I'll try and look into everything you said, as I'm pretty clueless on topics like surgery or eyebrow threading at the moment. I'll get back into a regular lifting routine and see if there are any DEXA machines near me. Good luck to you with your own goals in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 10:16 PM
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It's sadly quite common, at least online. https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/iygtdy/indian_women_should_not_marry_13_billion_reasons/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Apart from the obvious blunder of using India's total population in her title (which would include the female population as well, rather than only the male population which would presumably be half of 1.3 billion), the worst part about that thread is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 09:48 PM
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but I can’t tell if you have a jawline at all My sibling tells me I have a good jawline, and I do have a square chin which is apparently suitable on men, but my jaw is still very recessed and I instinctually began sticking it out at all times when I was younger. Every photo you see of me is with my jaw extended, but since my lower third is already so short it doesn't look unnatural. I will never post a photo of what my resting jaw looks like because it's simply too embarrassing. what’s your body…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 07:56 PM
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-Large, unshapely nose -Recessed jaw -Negative canthal tilt, dark-brown eyes (one lazy) -Hair thinning -Weak beard genetics -Circular skull shape -No visible cheekbones
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:36 AM
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You can want things and simultaneously learn to be content without them. Agreed. Tempering one's desire such that it never transitions into desperation is important; though it is harder to do in the case of something which you've never experienced before at all. Don't give up I won't give up on life, but I may give up on my romantic fantasies at some point. I think an unpartnered individual can be fulfilled through fully immersing themself in their hobbies, I just need to decide what those hobbi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:22 AM
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I don't want to get plastic surgery because it might result in me gaining that "plastic surgery" look, while still being ugly on top of it. I'd rather be "ugly yet natural" rather than "ugly and uncanny".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:18 AM
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I consider myself very ugly. I posted myself on r/truerateme and despite only receiving a few comments (which is already a sign of being so ugly that nobody wanted to give you attention in the first place), I received ratings of 4's and 5's. Here is a photo of me: https://imgur.com/a/WUjT5ba I'm currently in online school and not visiting any kind of external environment on a regular basis, but back when I attended the gym daily I did not receive any attention and prior to that I didn't either. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:13 AM
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I'm a short (5'8, barely), probably-autistic Indian male who is looking for love. I am 27 years old. I have so much affection to give. I fantasize about an imaginary girlfriend every single day. My love language is touch, but I am completely touch-starved - so I sometimes kiss my hands and arms while pretending that my imaginary girlfriend is the one doing it. I have many other fantasy roleplays that I enact by myself, at the comfort of my desk. "Friends-to-lovers" is a big one of these fantasie…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:12 PM
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Wow...not to sound crass but busty women are definitely my weakness...add some nurturing/maternal qualities and a soothing, gentle voice into the mix and my heart is ready to fall out of my chest. Is there anything else you can tell me about this particular woman? Like has she ever described what set of traits she is referring to when she says "cute guys"? Note: For any women reading this, don't be misled into thinking that all men desire bustier women and feel bad about yourselves - I have seve…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 03:54 PM
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Do you mind clarifying how to spot the difference between a woman who values romance vs one who values hookups? And also one who has always valued romance rather than only recently discontinuing her lifestyle of casual hookups? As for your question, I would be fine to be with that woman. As much as I may desire a woman who has never been with anyone besides me, so that we can experience all the novel sensations of a romantic relationship in sync with eachother, I have to be realistic and acknowl…
/r/AllPillDebate28/02/23 04:11 AM
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dont expect any woman to love you just because you exist This is a painful pill to swallow, but you are right. It still hurts knowing just how few virginal women are out there. My fantasies of falling in love with someone who has similarly never had any romantic experience before dwindles each passing day, just as each passing day swathes of eligible women will no longer meet that criteria. My heart aches; I am a old-school romantic living in a society that has moved on from my ideals. Society h…
/r/AllPillDebate28/02/23 02:28 AM
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...Dear God, is it really this bad? 🥺 I've never dated yet, but once I do I wonder whether I will eventually reach a point where I decide there is no hope in satisfying my traditional romantic fantasies within real-life dating and decide to spend the rest of my days immersed in idealized fictional romance stories instead?
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 11:49 PM
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nice writing, felt like i lived some of your experiences just by reading your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 10:54 PM
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Oh, I see. And yes, your elaboration both sums it up and makes me feel quite jealous LOL, but seriously that's amazing - I'm glad you're in a happy relationship. Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 09:51 PM
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Okay, thanks for sharing your experiences. I really hope that my traits, despite being "softer" or "less masculine" than the average male, can be found attractive by some women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 09:23 PM
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I think I understand what you're saying, regarding the term "cute" being synonymous with "hot" in some usages. But I was just trying to understand whether someone who could be described as "nice, innocent, somewhat young looking or sounding, a really kind person who felt like a best friend" could be sexually attractive to some women, who would in turn want those types of guys as their boyfriend? Does your own boyfriend predominantly meet the above traits, or does he moreso meet the second defini…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 09:20 PM
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This is the harsh reality, that most of us men need to accept. I won't ventpost about it here because I already did that in a recent comment of mine. Spending your whole life wanting to be beautiful, and instead having to confront an ogre every time you see your reflection...it is a painful feeling that I have not yet gotten over and one I wish were more discussed. If women really are exclusively attracted to and pursuing the top 20% of men, I don't blame them at all; men are not the fairer sex,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 08:16 PM
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Do you think those women genuinely love your exes, or are they likely in the same stage as your younger self, back when you had not yet realized the distinction between "men who would be good for friendships" and "men who would be good for relationships"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 07:50 PM
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But ignoring the word "cute" itself, and looking only at the definition provided for it: "nice, innocent, somewhat young looking or sounding. Usually a really kind person but more of a best friend than a lover" Do you think that there are women who find those qualities sexually attractive, and want to be in a romantic relationship with a man who has those traits? Or would the vast majority of women prefer a man who meets the second definition: "exciting, experienced, more “masculine” traits than…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 07:41 PM
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Do you know of any women who find themselves sexually attracted to "cute" guys, or would prefer them over the latter? Because that's definitely the category I fall into.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 03:09 PM
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Would you mind elaborating the difference between finding someone "cute" versus "sexually attractive"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 02:44 PM
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How do I come to terms with being part of the 85% of ugly men? I'm not disputing her claim, I'm agreeing with it. I was enamored by aesthetics ever since I was a child, wanting to be as beautiful as I could possibly make myself. Unlike the boys who were into athletics, I was more interested in aesthetics. I idolized figures like Sodapop from The Outsiders (played by Rob Lowe), and would spend a long time each morning styling my hair just like his. I thought that puberty would transform me into a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 09:46 PM
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But I don’t know why we can’t have a little empathy for the man who’s brain or mouth moves a little slower I feel seen. Also, after unsuccessfully adopting an "alpha male" persona for years, I didn't think it was possible to change one's personality. But I Googled it after reading your comment and some articles claim that it is possible within limits. I think that: 1) entering a subconscious state 2) imagining yourself as having a different personality 3) imagining outwardly behaving with one's …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 06:58 PM
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I don't have a problem with using online dating apps to study dating dynamics (as long as a variety of apps are used, since not everyone's preferences can be reflected by one type of dating app). However, the following are two different statements: a) 80% of women consider only 20% of men to be attractive b) 80% of women are actively and knowingly sharing 20% of men I can believe a), since I think it's a lot more difficult to be an attractive man than it is to be an attractive woman. The average…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 06:31 AM
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The first case wouldn't be "sharing" in the way I was using the term, since the women weren't even aware that their man had other partners. That example would simply be men being unfaithful, and doing so stealthily. My definition for women "sharing" a man is if the woman knew the man was seeing multiple people, but was so attracted to him that she would rather let herself be a member of his harem than leave him in hopes of finding someone who will commit to her exclusively. The second case is an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 06:30 AM
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Can anyone tell me if they have firsthand or secondhand knowledge of the phenomenon referenced in OP, whereby 80% of women "share" the top 20% of men? We can term this as the "harem hypothesis", for short. The idea of that phenomenon being true absolutely depresses me, and I'm hoping it's just a narrative fabricated by male insecurity rather than something actually occurring within society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 03:02 AM
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I know, was just pointing out a funny coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:58 PM
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Username checks out 😋
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:37 PM
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I'm not at all trying to "humblebrag" here but I genuinely always thought my unit was average or below-average (i.e "small"), and your comment made me want to see where I fall on the bellcurve so I plugged my stats into an online calculator (https://calcsd.info/) and I was genuinely surprised to see that my percentiles are almost the same as yours? I'm 2% lower for each measurement. So statistically, I'm actually above-average? And you're telling me that my stats (which are similar to yours) wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:19 PM
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Yeah, I believe those statistics but if a company explicitly told a candidate they are rejecting him on the basis of height, and height was not related to the job responsibilities, then that seems like a valid reason to sue the company. I'm not a lawyer though so I can't say much more.
/r/MensRights02/02/23 04:41 AM
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Employers explicitly told you they won't hire you because of your height? Was height related to successfully performing the actual responsibilities of the job? Because if not, I think you could file a lawsuit against them for height discrimination.
/r/MensRights02/02/23 03:51 AM
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Do you think there are any neurotypical women who find autistic boys cute? Like, they find his autistic behaviors endearing and adorable, such as seeing him become flustered in social settings when he doesn't know what to do and kind of just freezes in place while thinking of his next move. A girl in highschool seemingly gave me a warm laugh when the above happened to me while I was talking to her and her friend at school: the conversation had ended but I didn't know how to gracefully exit it, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:15 PM
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Thank you for showing such empathy here. Honestly means a lot to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 04:31 PM
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This might sound dumb, but I need to ask: are there any woman here who find autistic men cute, specifically because of their autistic traits? Like, women who specifically fantasize about being with an autistic man over a neurotypical one, or at least consider an autistic man as an equal romantic prospect to a neurotypical one? Because one of my greatest fantasies (which I guess began as a coping mechanism for my lack of romantic success) is to end up with the woman of my dreams precisely because…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:01 AM
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For me personally, I'm attracted to women with a particular "aura" (which is created by a combination of their physical appearance, style of dress, and the character vibes they give off) - namely, an aura of "purity". This outward aura ultimately determines my attraction towards a woman, more so than the concrete knowledge of her sexual history does. When I look at women I either categorize them on a spectrum, as being either a) not relationship material (NRM) b) girlfriend material c) wifey mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 08:02 PM
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That's a solid list. Committing to those standards is a reliable way of ensuring you enter a healthy relationship. Though it might take some time to determine whether or not a current dating prospect lives up to them, given how circumstantial some of them are and the need to wait until those circumstances have arisen in order to judge their corresponding response to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 08:24 PM
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Would you mind describe your personal standards for men? I'm curious as to what attributes would be included in them. I'm assuming it has more to do with emotional intelligence, sexual generosity, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 09:09 PM
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That's great to hear. I stopped going to the gym 4 months back due to falling behind in school, and sadly weigh 10-12lbs less than I did before. I also have poor beard genetics and thinning hair, which I can hopefully receive treatment for. Also looking into lasik eye surgery because glasses have never suited me. Hopefully these upgrades will make me more appealing to a potential life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 11:27 PM
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the autistic depressed dude Can you elaborate on this guy? Like, he was clearly lacking social fluency but women were still pursuing him? Was he extremely handsome or something - why would women want a man with autism and depression? I ask this because I suspect myself to have autism and am surprised to hear of an autistic guy being successful at romancing women. Also why do you believe you were unsuccessful with women? Can you think of any traits of yours which may have repelled them? It can be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:20 PM
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Thanks, that would be helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 03:31 AM
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Can you provide an example of a large-nosed man you find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 07:59 PM
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In terms of how stereotypically-masculine they appear and behave, would bi men typically fall somewhere on the spectrum between that of an average gay man and an average straight man? A lot of gay men in media or online display a greater degree of effeminate behavior than would be seen in straight men - so are bi men generally somewhat effeminate too, but perhaps less so than gay men ? Just asking because I've never seen practically any openly bi men anywhere in the media. If a bi man presented …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:48 AM
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Thank you, that's a really kind thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 08:21 PM
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Thanks and you're right, posts like this affirm that other people exist who I'd be compatible with: https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/mr9xus/new_boyfriend_is_asexual/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button But the odds of me being attracted to someone, who is also compatible in that regard, seems pretty low. Only time will tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 07:28 PM
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No problem, no need to apologize. I'm in an unconventional situation here and am unsure how to navigate it once I put myself into the dating market in future. Also to address your specific points and to revise my earlier statements, I can make myself open to being the recipient if not doing so is a dealbreaker for the other person, but I'd prefer her to be the recipient 95% of the time (because I practise "retention") and also she has to be satisfied with non-penetrative methods of stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 05:02 PM
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Does your response mean that you're open to receiving pleasure in that region through non-penetrative methods, but don't want to engage in actual intercourse? No disrespect intended, but I'd prefer to date a neurotypical woman in the hope they could balance my neurodivergent-based shortcomings. Plus I'm kind of enamored by neurotypicals, and how gracefully they can do certain things. But you're saying that since ND women are generally more sensitive to stimulation, they would be more likely to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 04:50 PM
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Oh, you were already financially well-off? So she never asked you how you were able to work so little, and still pay your half of the bills?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:35 AM
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She was able to be attracted despite earning more than you? You "barely worked", but she did not resent that or demand it to change, and still loved you? Did she pay most of the household bills, and if so, did she never feel resentful for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:14 PM
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Okay 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:10 PM
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Oh, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 06:10 PM
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Me neither. But hopefully at least the women caught up in those lifestyles can reform their ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 06:09 PM
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That's really refreshing and encouraging to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:57 PM
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Would women generally be okay with an asexual boyfriend if their boyfriend still eagerly attempted to please them in that department on a regular basis (as often as the woman wants), but delivers said pleasure by utilizing body parts other than his you-know-what? Like, he doesn't enjoy the feeling of being stimulated in that region and therefore doesn't ever want to be the recipient in those interactions, but is eager to give his partner as much pleasure as possible? And he's very affectionate i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:52 PM
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Body Language: The Definitive Book (Allan Pease, Barbara Pease)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 04:27 PM
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Your poor brother-in-law is taking care of a child that another man birthed and abandoned, and is seen by his wife as the lesser partner of the two men? What positive qualities did her ex possess, and what negative qualities does her current husband possess? I wish you could tell the husband to leave and find someone more deserving of him, but since we're talking about your own sister here it's obviously understandable that you would keep quiet to keep her family intact. I hope the poor husband …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 04:45 AM
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This may be my naïvety speaking again, but perhaps the woman from your story went on a long journey of self-discovery, realized her body had more worth than as a sexual ATM for rich married men, stopped hanging in those circles, and eventually settled down with an average-income guy who really loved her and helped restore genuine happiness to her life after decades of vacuous social-climbing made her lose sight of her deeper values? Even if none of that happened, at least as men we can try our b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 03:13 AM
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Okay, thanks 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 03:02 AM
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To what extent do you believe social skills can be learnt? I started reading a book on social skills some time last year, and while it helped me recognize a fake smile from a genuine one (the corners of the eyes lift up in a genuine smile), there's still a massive gap in social intuition that I haven't been able to fill. But maybe the rest of the book (I stopped reading it) would have more of the answers I'm searching for. I wonder if it's possible to be great at socializing by being a good list…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 11:23 PM
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Do you think face sunscreen should be worn even indoors? Even for people with darker (ex. caramel) skin? I started doing it back in summer but stopped because I thought it might be a waste of money/effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 11:13 PM
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Good analysis regarding her reaction, I think that makes sense and is probably a common mindset of women in those positions. I wonder what she's doing now. I know the bottom question probably seemed pretty dumb LOL, I still don't quite understand how they manage to somehow manage those two sides of themselves, for example, not saying something inapproriate in the workplace that could make him appear sexist or perverted (or mentioning to his wife the multiple young women he is seeing). I guess ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 10:00 PM
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Not sure what you mean, I was asking if you can describe the kind of man you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 09:46 PM
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Good point. The key would be to actually not need a relationship and be content with oneself, rather than to merely act like it. Which ironically then places oneself in the best position to attract the relationship that they weren't looking for in the first place...lol. So I guess you need to be happy single, but also willing to enter a relationship if you feel it would add even more happiness to your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 09:45 PM
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This one right? https://twitter.com/SAUCEMcGRAW/status/1538109154249818115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1538109154249818115%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url= Though technically some men showed up later on: https://twitter.com/xSalmtru/status/1538218433107615744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1538218433107615744%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 09:23 PM
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Curious as to what this is?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 09:07 PM
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So the man's social status is even more important than how the man treats her? Even if the man loves her and treats her like his queen, his relative lack of social status means that she will find it hard to feel attracted toward him?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 09:01 PM
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Do you think it's possible for a late 20's man with no relationship experience to embody the kind of "air" that you developed? Because I do agree with you that a man who is desperately seeking a partner gives off a very different vibe to a man who is utterly disinterested in that department, and women pick up on these signals far better than men do. I used to be far more desperate than I currently am, though I'm not sure if it reflects in the way I carry myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 07:14 PM
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So would a man with no social media presence, a limited real-life social network, who spends time working towards his goals in solitude, be unattractive to women? I don't need social validation to be fulfilled in life, so why would I pursue it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 07:09 PM
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Do they smile at you and reciprocate small talk even when you aren't with your wife? Apparently being married greatly increases a man's desirability in the eyes of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:59 PM
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What about the men who used to exclusively pursue casual sex with an ever-increasing number of women, until they eventually find themselves feeling empty inside and decide to renounce that lifestyle in favor of a committed, monogamous relationship? Often becoming religious in the process as well. Those men experienced the reality of having casual relations with an unending rotation of women, but ultimately found it unsatisfying and still opted for monogamy in the end. Have you ever been in love,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 05:29 PM
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Not to mention, infinite, nubile women is the male fantasy...not lifelong marriage to one. What is the appeal of this fantasy? I'm a straight man, yet all I have ever wanted is a lifelong monogamous relationship with a woman that I also consider my "best friend". But I relate to asexuality, so maybe if I had interest in sex I'd understand the appeal of the harem fantasy better. However, from where I currently stand, the idea of having a multitude of lovers seems hollow and pointless, with no pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 07:31 AM
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She pretended she didn't hear that, turned her face to the other side and stared into the nothing with the most sad face I've ever seen I'm curious as to why a self-proclaimed "sugar baby" would react this way? She was aware he was married and only viewed her as a sex object, so why become upset when he explicitly states the nature of their arrangement? Also, how do perverts like your boss even possess the discipline required to become so successful in their careers in the first place? Shouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 07:01 AM
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How do those guys make so much money? Are they self-made? Have you met them personally? What age range do they fall under?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 05:58 AM
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I would imagine that women love men who are compassionate towards animals, since it shows them that you are protective, caring and capable of looking after others. It can be used as a proxy for "paternalistic" traits, which a lot of women apparently look for in a man. My suggestion is to find some friends in your life, preferably neurotypical women, who can honestly critique your existing OLD profile. Granted, I don't have any dating experience myself so my advice might not be accurate. I probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:45 PM
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I've been planning to read the books in the future but I guess rewatching the films would be a quicker way of absorbing the story and witnessing these leadership qualities of Aragorn that you speak of. I'll read the books at a later time.
/r/RedPillWomen08/01/23 06:47 AM
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I want a monogamous, lifelong relationship so badly (it's the only thing I am looking for actually, and I would never partake in any kind of casual or temporary romance) but I am just not sure how to bring it into reality. I am very behind my peers in terms of finances, career, independance, social skills, and relationship experience. It will take many years for me to reach a position of being a desirable prospective partner to a woman whom I find attractive (which isn't a supermodel or anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 08:07 PM
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Should we speak to men and women differently? I've heard a lot of others say that the key to developing genuine platonic or romantic connections with women is to treat women just like you'd treat any other man. That seemed like good advice to me, as someone who pedastalized women to such a degree that I couldn't interact with them like I would other men. I'm now at a point where I feel like I could speak to a woman just like I'd speak to a man (unless I have romantic interest in her, in which ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:50 AM
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Do you believe it's possible for a socially awkward man who is submissive towards women to become non-awkward and dominant towards women? How exactly would that transformation occur? Practically every self-proclaimed "alpha male" guru I've seen on Youtube comes across as a man who never actually possessed any of the traits associated with so-called "alpha males", who then became dissatisfied with or traumatized as a result of not receiving the treatment they desired from others, went on a "red p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:14 PM
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Can you elaborate on Aragorn"s masculine temperament? I haven't read the LOTR books yet and haven't seen the films in ages.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/23 05:41 AM
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Can it really, though? For anyone? Like, I suspect myself to be on the spectrum (which I feel ashamed to even write, because I want to be "normal" so badly), and even at the age of 27 I behave in a manner that comes across as "abnormal" to most so-called "neurotypical" people. It's evident in even the smallest articles of body language, such as the way I twirl my wrists or crane my neck. I literally "feel" awkward, even when I'm by myself. It could partially or entirely be my own mistaken judgem…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:07 AM
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I'm definitely one of those guys who are instantly clockable by others as having "zero romantic interest from women", though I'm not sure what others would attribute to about me. If I had to judge myself, I'd chalk it down to a general social awkwardness, which prevents the possibility of forming positive interactions with women due to their instinctual classification of you as "creepy" or a "loser", regardless of what your actual personality or lifestyle may look like. Women are the more social…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:14 AM
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This is painful for me to read, because it articulates something that I deep down believe to be true but generally try to avoid confronting. On one hand, my feminist views bring me to see the idea of "getting women" as objectifying and dehumanizing, reducing adult females to mere commodities which serve to boost a man's social status, but that I would love to develop a deep friendship or serious romance with a specific woman without ever trying to go the way of the "player" and amass a harem of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 02:59 AM
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I am confused. To clarify, you're saying that if two people are already dating, they should try to establish a solid friendship with eachother before deciding to make the other a serious partner? Until that solid base of friendship is established, they should not progress the relationship (ex. moving in with eachother, etc)?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:43 PM
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"Friends to lovers" is one of my favorite tropes in romance stories, for the reasons you mentioned (alongside the additional safeness and closeness you'd feel with someone who is a good friend of yours).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:32 AM
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That is an extremely impressive salary, dude. Congratulations. I hope things turn around for you on the dating frontier.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:10 AM
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Hopefully, yeah. My insecurity might be feeding me false perceptions of other people's thought-processes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:59 AM
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I thought you were joking at first, but are you serious? Being poor would make life a lot tougher, especially going through it without a loving partner by one's side. I think it is better to aspire towards "stealth wealth", i.e being wealthy but not having any outward markers of it. Working out and building a great physique has been a really fulfilling pursuit for me though, I agree with you on that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:57 AM
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That is possible, but I also worry of being seen as "creepy" if I'm not deemed attractive enough to justify a spot within a predominantly-female group. I hope they won't consider me unwelcome within that space, and will also let me share my honest opinions during discussions rather than only the "politically correct" ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:48 AM
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Interesting. Why do you imagine those women try to belittle your dates with women who aren't them? Is it because they themselves are romantically interested in you, or perhaps because they're jealous of other women being treated by a man while they themselves have no potential suitors?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 02:20 AM
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Hopefully, yeah. I will try those settings in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 01:52 AM
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How do you recommend one finds a woman who loves him primarily because of his treatment towards her, rather than what he can treat her to? A woman who is non-materialistic and most fulfilled by simpler pleasures in life, such as reading books?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 12:30 AM
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I feel pretty bad for her boyfriend. Would you agree that she should be transparent to her boyfriend about the many men who are approaching her, and especially the ones who she chooses to go on dinner dates with? Unless it's an "open" relationship, the poor boyfriend is driving 300 miles roundtrip to visit a woman who he believes is exclusive with him, when in reality she's being wined, dined and perhaps more by multiple other men. In my opinion this constitutes cheating, and the boyfriend needs…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:57 PM
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Does the first woman's boyfriend know that other men are bringing food and gifts to his girlfriend's doorstep? How does he feel about that? Does she actually end up going out to dinner with those men, despite having a boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:12 PM
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Do you mind elaborating what you consider to be the "right" criteria to use when selecting a life partner? I'm curious to know more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:04 PM
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I will, thanks. It's a topic I'll probably do more research on. Not only for practical purposes, but also general curiosity as to how human behavior can change at different stages in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:58 PM
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Good advice, when I enter the dating scene a few years from now I hope I'll be able to find individuals who don't display the dysfunctional traits you mentioned earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:53 PM
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Understood, thanks. Do you think pursuing a partner younger than their 30's would allow someone to bypass the issue altogether? While potentially bringing its own set of drawbacks, I'd guess. Also, if you wouldn't mind elaborating on what these "broken" women look like, I'd be interested to know further. Just for my own understanding, since I don't have much knowledge on women of that age bracket. Are they often alcoholics, for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:36 PM
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Do you believe that in order to be in a happy, lifelong romantic partnership, at least one partner should be under the age of 35? I'm 27, should I set myself a "deadline" by which time I should aim to have found my life partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:04 PM
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I'd really like to thank you for sending such kind words in my direction. While I definitely don't think I deserve to be called a "very admirable" man, and consider myself to have many dysfunctional behaviors which need to be worked on, I really appreciate the words of encouragement from you as I continue walking down a new and unfamiliar path. I also wish you the best in your own life, be it in the dating sphere or any other area. Take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:05 AM
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TL;DR: Sorry for the novel. You don't have to read beyond the first three paragraphs. I wasn't attempting to contribute to this thread (I didn't even read the thread topic before I responded to the other user), was just trying to respond to the comment that other user "throwaway316stunner" wrote on a different subreddit. I therefore had no opinion on the subject of this thread when writing my earlier comment. That said, I couldn't find any other comments of yours in this current thread so I am n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:20 PM
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What do you mean? Was your response directed towards me, or the user I was replying to?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:26 PM
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Hey, I saw your recent comments on r/dating_advice and tried to reply there but the comments were locked, so I'm replying here. I just wanted to say relate to your situation a lot. I am also an "inept Aspie" who waddles when I walk, and would undoubtedly be homeless were it not for my parental support. I am able to tie my shoes without difficulty, but grasping objects is a challenge, and I am unable to carry multiple objects in one hand without feeling a tactile overload that prompts me shortly …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:24 AM
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seeming as how it's the one culture in the world that has their women under control Seriously? "The one culture in the world that has their women under control"? Are you completely mental? You mean outright oppresses them and forces them to live exactly as men want them to, while the men themselves exercise far more rights than they do? You mean a culture that routinely sees a father/brother kill their daughter/sister for displaying "unislamic" behavior by means of an honour killing, a phenomeno…
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