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Because women aren’t monogamous, they’re hypergamous. That’s the point. Broadly speaking, women choose to mate with men in relatively higher positions of status. This isn’t always the case, but it is mostly the case. Good for you, your “get out of jail free” card may serve you well. The original post has nothing to do with your independence, it has to do with why “nice guy celebrity/business dudes” cheat - and I’m saying it’s because men’s nature wants a harem (polygamy) and women’s nature wants…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:19 PM
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Yes, that’s a great point, women tend to date and marry across and up status hierarchies. If you are already highly successful in most areas, the number of men that are attractive to you will be less. Statistically, very few men would “bring enough to the table” to be attractive to you. On the flip side, your financial and career success does not make you significantly more attractive to the average man. But as always, we’re speaking in general terms - you could be a lesbian for all I know, I’m …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 03:11 PM
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Uhhh, because being with them provides exactly what women want? Status, wealth, attention, raw sexual attraction, good looks, cool friends, etc etc etc. Women love high status men because of what they bring to the table. So women fight tooth and nail to acquire and retain high status men who have many many options. Marrying a low status man doesn’t cure him of his nature, it just removes some of the competition. The other option is to marry a religious man, who fights against his own nature, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 02:42 PM
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This is a very, very common cycle among successful men. They start out low status, marry the first chick interested in them, go out and achieve greatness, then get all the female attention and status they craved when unsuccessful. They never wanted monogamy - most men don’t. They settled for it out of desperation. Same with bezos, same with gates, same with every other high profile celebrity cheating incident. Men want a harem, women want monogamy but only with the highest status man around. She…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 02:19 PM
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Mgtow is already a movement western society is moving towards. But no one calls it that. It’s called “men not taking responsibility” or “men afraid to commit” or “declining birth rates” or a million other things. The only people who actually identify as mgtow are men who have no options, who can’t get laid, and who are bitter about it. But men in general are already waking up to the fact that any relationship with women involving a contract is statistically not in their best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:30 PM
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Yes this. It’s odd OP is rating women on things that women find attractive. (Good job, interesting hobbies, affluent friends)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:17 PM
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Ok, but what if he wanted it specifically bc your vaj isn’t tight enough, and is unsatisfying to him, and he liked his previous partners better so he wants a toy that reminds him of them? That’s what OP is specifically asking in this scenario. It’s mortifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 09:01 PM
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Oh geez I just reread the post and it’s even worse. Lemme rephrase my question: Ladies, would you be upset if your partner wanted to introduce pussy sleeves, because his previous partner had a nicer vaj and yours isn’t satisfying them? I’m just some random dude on the internet, so dismiss my view if you want, but if that were the situation, and I understood why you wanted this penis sleeve added to the bedroom, I’d break up with you immediately. It’s just a simple sexual incompatibility, it’s no…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 01:51 PM
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It doesn’t matter if you say it to his face, his dick, or his mother’s pet chihuahua. The message is clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:50 PM
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Women, would you feel insecure if your man wanted to introduce “pussy sleeves” to the bedroom because your vaj isn’t tight enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 04:56 AM
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Maybe you're right from an academic perspective, but considering the target audience of the film I feel it has a more male-centric function within the narrative than a female-centric function. The bond series for decades has been a collection of stories about a badass man shooting up bad guys and sleeping with hotties. I can appreciate the writers attempts to make bond more of a human, and to at least attempt to develop female characters more in the craig films compared to its predecessors.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:56 PM
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I'd argue the Daniel Craig scene is an extension of the male gaze - not because men find him hot, but because men want to see themselves as hot - to imagine for a brief moment that they are bond. Women like to think men are only visual and don't like story or context in erotica, but this is false. Many do enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:36 PM
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Y'know, I think one force driving increased sexual inequality is the increasing amount of people like OP spouting off this stuff. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy as women learn to avoid men like that at all costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:35 AM
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Bullshit like this is what creates “nice guys” (trademark). Respect alone is NOT a way to attract women. This leads to the meme where morty holds up his card of “how many times I respected women” and expects to be rewarded with sex. To actually attract a woman, a man must be ATTRACTIVE. And exactly what constitutes attractive is somewhat unique to each woman, but certain generalities can be extracted from many many anecdotes. Things like fitness, sociability, status, wealth, talents/hobbies like…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 04:16 PM
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It’s not the muscles - at least not directly. You’re correct that men will notice the muscles more, but that’s the point: being more noticed and respected by other men raises one’s social status and that increase in status is absolutely noticed and appreciated by women. Men set up social hierarchies and women select mates from the top of that hierarchy. But sure, a social and well connected skinny fat dude will usually get laid more than an angry loner gym rat. But if everything else is equal, p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:15 PM
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From a red pill perspective the OVERWHELMING majority of men complaining here are simply seeking an outlet for their own self loathing because they are low status and they KNOW they’re low status. And so they hampster-wheel (sorry to borrow the cringe terminology) and rationalize why it’s not their fault for being hideously unattractive, it’s instead somehow women’s fault, or society’s fault, or capitalism’s fault, or the lack of capitalism, or some other shit. The immutable truth remains, women…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:34 PM
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“Women are unaffected by this”??? Im calling 100% bullshit on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:22 AM
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Hahaha too high for who exactly? Too high for those women to have casual sex? Nope. Too high for unattractive men to have casual sex? Absolutely. Women LIKE it this way. They PREFER it this way. They MADE it this way. Stop bitching and learn to play the game with the updated rules. Namely, rule 1 and rule 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:59 PM
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Literally every complaining, whining post like this could be simplified by adding the word "unattractive" before the word "men". Yes, every attempt from unattractive men to get sex is creepy. Yes, double standards exist for unattractive men. Yes, the world is biased against unattractive men. Moral of the story? Become attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:31 PM
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BOOM!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 12:38 AM
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There’s always going to be the extreme example where a woman sticks with a man through everything. But broadly speaking, yes, romantic love is conditional. Notice though, that the usual benefits a man provides a woman are considered non-conditional. Consider that police with guns will show up to enforce your duty to provide, and if you fail to do so you’ll be imprisoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 02:20 PM
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Right, while it’s true only the top XX% get action, becoming that top % is indeed attainable for most here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 06:28 PM
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Yes obviously. But I’m so sick and tired of ridiculous fantasies like this being brought up again and again. A relationship with someone highly attracted to you is attainable for most men in this sub. Get out there and make something of yourself instead of posting this shit like OP. Save the effort for serious conversations on sexual dynamics, relationship strategy, and actual RP ideas you agree or disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 03:37 PM
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lol. Men’s sexual success is not limited by the “awkwardness” of chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:48 PM
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Nah, that’s a tad too fatalistic of a view for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:47 PM
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TRP says just get out there and get a life. Problem solved. Please don’t blame the problem on chicks. Dudes need to make friends with other dudes, even if it’s other video game playing and Cheeto eating losers. The awkwardness you’re talking about is just atrophied social muscles, not an inherent or permanent condition. Also, no, people weren’t tremendously fit long ago. They often ate poorly, suffered from preventable diseases, and died early.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:28 PM
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Nah, that’s bullshit. Look at men 80 or 120 or 200 years ago. In general people look better now due to tech, hygiene, plumbing, medicine, orthodontics, leisure time to work out, etc. The men you’re referring to have existed in every society - they’re just ugly. Can’t fix that without fixing the human condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:08 PM
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No, just societal change. More suffering for the masses, more prosperity for the few. Less children, fewer families, more casual sex, less long term relationships, more immigration, lower working wages, less male college graduates. Essentially a squeezing of the distribution of things that favors those at the top. Society won’t “collapse” or whatever shit tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 11:58 AM
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1000% correct
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:24 PM
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I think the argument most would make is that women have to settle for a *realistic* vision of who they can marry or lock down in a long term relationship. Not that they have to be with "the average man." The criticism is that he could be handsome, have good economic prospects, be funny, and otherwise be a great catch, but ya'll will choose to friendzone him or swipe left because you have a completely unrealistic expectation about what's out there, and more specifically what you are able to lock …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:45 AM
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Hard disagree, but I’ll bite. Why do you think it’s a choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:09 PM
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Plenty of very sexy people aren’t desired by their spouse or long term partner. Living circumstances can significantly destroy attraction too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 11:03 AM
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It’s because “love” has so many meanings that it’s now useless. Be specific. Can feel what without commitment exactly? Admiration? Lust? Respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:18 PM
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Yeah that’s the whole “love is a choice” message I don’t agree with. commitment is a choice, attraction isn’t. We have to be very precise and stop equivocating on the word “love.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:04 PM
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Yes, I think many people feel disillusioned when they learn that feeling they label “love” is a chemical cocktail with an expiration date. But I think we’d raise healthier adults if we taught them this reality sooner and helped them prevent fallout when things end. There’s always exceptions to this rule though, and some people can feel in love for a long long time, but we shouldn’t teach people to expect they’re in this minority of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:01 PM
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It’s literally in the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:20 PM
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Well, yes about responsibility and improving your life. I’m just skeptical about “try harder” as a response for many disaffected men and poor people. It just sounds like telling a homeless person “stop being poor” when there are larger societal and political trends causing that poverty more than their own lack of effort. It’s why I’d probably sound black pilled, while simultaneously recognizing the victims aren’t primarily at fault for their suffering. This would lead into a political discussion…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:17 PM
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Male 10’s do not exist. Source: the infamous tinder data showing women’s ratings of men. None were in the “10” category
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:02 PM
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Lol, nvmd. I guess we don’t agree after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:53 PM
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True, it’s not a death spiral for some people. I’m fairly privileged due to the wonderful people who have personally invested in my character, professional prospects, and overall upbringing. Many millions of men do not have the same privileges, and will simply be left behind. It’s a cruel and arbitrary world. The point of this sub is that some are able to accept this reality and many deny it’s a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:44 PM
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At this point I’ll assume you’re trolling on purpose. Good job, you had me there for a sec.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:42 PM
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Yes! And as the likelyhood of a man meeting those standards becomes less and less (not only in your life but overall in society), the proportion of expendable males will continue to grow and grow. We agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:32 PM
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🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️Read the title of the first article please.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:30 PM
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Uhhh, basically every popular news site, feminist blog, magazine, etc. They all say the same thing: modern men failing; women most affected. It’s a hilarious look at societal misandry which sees suffering men as a problem only because it makes women less comfortable https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/09/06/broke-men-are-hurting-american-womens-marriage-prospects/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/09/28/health/american-men-less-marriageable-partner/index.html https:/…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:08 PM
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Bingo. Women simply do not crave sex enough to settle for a realistic partner. There’s no reason to. She doesn’t need his money (and often makes as much or more anyway). She doesn’t want kids. The number of men with a large enough delta in SMV to induce pussy tingles is very small. And no, this fact will not cause society to crumble as many bitter men here say. There will simply be a lot of unhappy men yankin’ their snakes at home and complaining about “muh feminismz”. Humanity is literally beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 02:59 PM
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“Money doesn’t matter” -rich people “Looks don’t matter” -hot people “Sex/hookups don’t matter” -OP
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:33 PM
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Your experience is valid, but i agree I kindof doubt most men watch extreme amounts of porn. Many people have an all-or-nothing view towards it which doesn’t allow for any nuance in their opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:06 PM
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I absolutely agree. But something changes after the wedding. The number of married men who stay attractive is vanishingly small.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:02 PM
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The difficult reality is that women select men who are in high demand. This creates the problem you’re describing. For many women, the ideal man has endless opportunity to cheat, and all the girls want to steal him, but he chooses to remain loyal. So not only does he need to be hot, high status, fun, wealthy, etc but he also has to have an outstanding personal character.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:42 PM
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This person gets it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:19 AM
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Easy, just strike early and lock him down while he’s young and naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:52 PM
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Maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:31 PM
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As an engineer, I particularly resent this comment. I resent the false cliche that engineers are soulless, safe, boring fallbacks, and that we have the charisma of soggy cereal. In the politest of ways, or maybe not, fuck you darling. ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:55 PM
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Iol, i’m tickled by the endless stupid posts like these. “OMG, men are so disgusting, they want kind, considerate women with practical skills and a strong romantic desire for them.” Men make stupid comments like this all the time too: “OMG, women want a man who can provide materially, who doesn’t look like a cave troll, who can behave in public like a normal person, and who won’t immediately cheat on the first piece of meat in sight. How entitled!” Yes, both sides want similar but slightly diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:00 PM
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OP doin' this purge thing a little too hard...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:50 PM
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Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:50 PM
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Exactly. OP is uniquely psychopathic
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:20 PM
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Ahhhh, geez I know this quote from somewhere! OP please post the original link! This is hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:16 PM
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Anyone sending rape threats should be banned. Anyone stating common sense should be upvoted. You shouldn’t pretend this is controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:56 PM
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No problem, glad to be of service. By the way, you can adjust your Reddit settings to disallow dm’s, and you can report abuse to the admins to ban offenders. Both these systems are in place to protect you from the eeeevil mens. If you’re in genuine distress I suggest you utilize these systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:51 AM
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The very first post your account made: “I’m a 16 year old and can’t seem to have a lasting relationship.” I find this unsurprising somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:42 AM
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Interestingly, men get along better with everyone whether male or female. All-female, or female-led organizations are NOTORIOUS for being petty, highly political, and toxic work environments. https://www.forbes.com/sites/drnancydoyle/2021/07/13/we-need-to-talk-about-toxic-femininity-at-work/?sh=3cbf519b2769
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:09 AM
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This is ridiculous. The only way the economics would work is if there were “robo brothels” with sex robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:38 PM
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Bingo. It’s a false correlation to assume people marry and then become wealthy. In reality, they usually were wealthy (or had potential to become so) and were thus SELECTED for by the opposite sex. Women don’t turn losers into winners. They wait at the finish line and choose to go home with the winners. The point? BECOME a winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 09:54 PM
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Lol, this post proved no matter what you believe, someone will complain about it!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:08 PM
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Lol! “Meery” Christmas to you too. Listen bud, women have a spectrum of men to choose from. At the top there is the ChadMuffinTM whose crass behavior and rampant sex drive is offset by his rugged good looks, ambition, wealth, and status. Then at the bottom of the barrel we’ve got the BetaBoiTM who’s compliance, servitude, and guaranteed loyalty makes up for his relative loser-ness. Most of these are invisible though - made from a material called “mediocrity” which makes them appear transparent t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 02:38 PM
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sniff sniff Hmmmm, anyone else smell a HUGE double standard here?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 11:45 PM
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Yes, I worry about this happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:04 PM
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Damn that’s awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 12:09 AM
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I’m always humored when people bring this up - as though unpaid labor from the man isn’t occurring when he takes care of children, or cooks for them, or transports them, or fixes the house, or fixed appliances, or makes home improvements, or manages finances, etc etc etc. The disparity is due to career advancement differed to bear children, not bc she’s some fantastically valuable cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 12:04 AM
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Dude, even with a prenup the judge can toss it out and award her 50%, PLUS a sizable alimony payment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:55 PM
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Oooofff, criiiiinge
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 02:53 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:23 AM
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Hooooly fuck I couldn’t finish the article. It confirmed every TRP stereotype. And I’m a person I’d like to think is critical of, and disagrees with some TRP concepts about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 02:56 PM
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Women have always “carried the bloodline” if they give birth. It’s not new, and it’s not noteworthy. I think the guys using that phrase mean it as more than genetics - like they think society will become matriarchal or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:54 PM
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It’s unfortunate you went through that. However, you chose to stay in this life. You decide every day that life’s joys are worth the suffering you’ve endured. Trauma or no trauma, I think each person deserves to make that choice for themselves. You don’t get to decide for them that their lives aren’t worth living.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:49 PM
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Because a child’s right to live is more important than a mother’s desire for convenience or her desire to escape responsibility for her actions. Also, abortion is “offing” them. It’s killing them. They die. Don’t gaslight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:50 AM
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Didn’t think so. So because perfectly healthy children might have a rough childhood in our sub-optimal foster care system, you’d elect to off them? Oof.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:34 AM
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Riddle me this: let’s say we give blanket approval to abortions for pregnancies with severe birth defects, or if due to rape and incest. Would you allow a ban on the overwhelming percentage of abortions that occur on-demand after 6 weeks of gestation? The point you’re making applies to a minuscule percentage of abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:50 PM
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This feels like a haiku
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:48 PM
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y'know, one of the things that ticks me off is when people (guys particularly) take this apocalyptic stance towards "society" because they can't get their dick wet. "All women will be miserable forever!" "Society will end!" "Women will take over and daughters will carry the bloodline!" Jesus, people calm down. Yes, your dick will continue to stay dry. And no, that is not a difficult thing for society at large to deal with. You're still expected to shoulder the responsibility for your own life. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:19 PM
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Well first, if you're talking about a genetic test prior to six weeks that shows high likelyhood for major diseases, I'd be fine with termination of that pregnancy. I don't see random flesh and organs as particularly valuable. However, if there's mind inside of that flesh - if a person inside a brain is in that flesh, then that person has rights. If you think it's ok to terminate a person who has diseases, then fine but be consistent in your view. How can you then justify letting any people with…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:29 PM
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Sure, journal of medical ethics: https://jme.bmj.com/content/46/1/3 The gist is, sure a fetus may not feel pain in the exact same way an adult would but the pain they do experience is morally relevant. I tend to agree. It’s an odd feeling to realize I have to argue with you that we shouldn’t cause children pain, but here I am, and here you are. It feels really reminiscent of debates where the religious apologist William Lane Craig argues hunting animals like deer for sport is morally fine, bc th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:25 AM
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What frustrates me tremendously, is when people are not self-consistent with their own arguments. Tell me, would you consider it ok to kill an autistic person, or a person with limited cerebral functionality? How about if they’re brain damaged and on life support? The answer is probably no. (But idk, maybe you truly are a psychopath to and see the murder of mentally disabled as ok) The way I see it, if it’s a human in a womb, who’s brain has developed to the point that it shows neural activity a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:00 PM
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Of course society will not "collapse". What an odd question. We'll just continue to see lower marriage rates, lower birth rates, stronger leanings towards socialism, and ultimately greatly increased wealth inequality as a few powerful men at the top enjoy more and more wealth and power. It won't be a "collapse" though, more of a slow hollowing out of the personal freedoms, agency, and real sources of joy from people's lives. We'll still enjoy some of the highest living standards humans have ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:42 PM
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She means she's having trouble finding men who look like the pristine actors in her favorite movies/shows and is disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:59 PM
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It’s possible. I don’t know exactly what’s going on in their heads, and each situation will have its own mix of incentives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 04:57 PM
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder (or rather the frame-of-reference of the beholder). For instance, we humans perceive the deep red feathers of male cardinals as more attractive than the dull-colored female cardinals, but would the birds themselves see it that way? How would an alien species view us humans? When divorced from human sexuality, how would an outside observer view humanity? Humans themselves see woman as "prettier" or "more attractive" bc we're evolutionarily programmed to think …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 04:08 PM
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For the same reason it'd be unfortunate or sad when a man gets used by a woman for his resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 04:03 PM
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It's for THIS SPECIFIC REASON that social media is so destructive. It allows people to project an air of happiness, wealth, success, social desirability, sexuality, attainment, etc that doesn't actually exist. Thus we feel compelled to waste hours upon hours over-inflating our appearances, and comparing ourselves to others to make sure we measure up to other's fake appearances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:53 PM
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It's pretty common, I think, actually, for people with no sexual experience prior to a very serious relationship, to eventually feel like they missed out on a lot of experience when they were younger, and come to feel some regret. Completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:32 PM
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Are women becoming as much of a sex addict as men? No, they aren't. And they won't be in the future either. The rest of the post has nothing to do with the question in the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:11 PM
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This is unfortunate, but I think it's probably true. These men are willing to fuck fat women, but don't want an actual relationship or a future with them. Very sad situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:06 PM
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Hmm. Again, no. You don’t seem like you’re in an mental space where you’d be willing to sincerely listen and discuss the topic in good faith. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:23 PM
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This sounds like you think TRP is about avoiding relationships and having exclusively one night stands. It’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:46 PM
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lol not me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 05:54 PM
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Her use of your resources is no indication of whether or not you’re “beta” or whatever. Are you satisfied with your sexual relationship? If not, and she remains with you, you’re being used. If you have a great sex life, and she enjoys your money as a side benefit, it’s not a big deal. Just my two cents.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:11 PM
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If the population ratio is skewed towards males (like in China) monogamy and marriage is much more common due to supply and demand. It’s a women’s market there. If the population were skewed more towards females then men would be the rarer sex and could demand more of their potential romantic partners
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:06 AM
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It solves issues for low value men, it doesn’t solve issues for women or give them the commitment they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 03:18 AM
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Some men care, but there's enough that don't care that she could find someone to support her lifestyle easily. Few would be likely to commit to her though. Many would happily "date" her, almost none would commit long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:31 PM
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I strongly disagree with the premise of "a really hot woman working at McDonald's." If she's actually hot (and not one of these 300lb chicks with "body positivity" delusions), then she will have a huuuuuge swath of opportunities to monetize her looks through modeling, instagram/tiktok influencing, OnlyFans, Porn, or prostitution. It's definitely possible for a hot girl to work at McD's, but for it to occur she would have to also be exceptionally dumb, or exceptionally morally opposed to using he…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:29 PM
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In terms of risks for women... You can hype of the risks of either side as much as you want. Each person has to adequately weigh those risks for themselves. Here, many people view those risks as unacceptable or unnecessary for men, and advise them to opt out of marriage. If you believe it's the same for women, then you can advise them to do the same. I feel sorry for anyone’s who’s world view reflects a “pill” ideology... It feels to me like it’s filled with resentment and bitterness and an unre…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:19 PM
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I’m mainly on this sub for a debate and because I find it interesting (and concerning) Yes, that's a common reaction from women here. In terms of risk - there’s huge risk for both men and women in getting married, having children etc. I don’t believe that’s gendered, it’s just different types of risk. It's gendered bc of divorce court which overwhelmingly grants child custody to women, and alimony laws which overwhelmingly benefit women (because women rarely if ever marry down the socio-economic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:32 PM
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That’s a good point. I think girls here on the PPD sub are probably wiser than the average girl. I generally don’t advocate for lying though, I’m just saying when a BB marries it’s to their detriment. Also research shows attraction fades rather quickly in marriage so men who used to be attractive to their women tend to become a BB even if they didn’t start out that way. That’s essentially the red pill - admitting this vision of a white picket fence house with a wife that loves you bc you’re good…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:38 PM
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It’s for this reason many don’t want them. The “work” required is difficult to justify for many people. For some the rewards do justify it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:54 PM
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BB pulls a specific type of women who needs to leach off him for resources. Some will trade cooch for it until they can get a ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:26 PM
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Read any feminist blog and you’ll see, they indeed don’t realize it. But they will happily complain about “where have all the good men gone” and “11 ways society suffers from toxic masculinity” and “today’s men have commitment issues.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:23 PM
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Facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:16 PM
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Correct. Also, BB men are not sexually attractive. It’s their wallets and easy low-cost devotion/loyalty that attracts women who need or want those things. Generally, a BB has to provide significant monetary value up-front in the form of dates, gifts, etc. If he doesn’t, he’ll be ghosted quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:14 PM
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Yes, but the BB situation is not what men want most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:22 PM
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Fucking based! Have my upvote!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 05:31 AM
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This is a particularly difficult question as I’m writing a book at the moment and it has female characters in it. I’m constantly wondering if I’m doing ok at portraying them believably, but also interestingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 05:15 AM
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The Matrix: “Be nice to women to earn their affection. Be decent and you’ll be rewarded.” The Red Pill: “Wake up, the world doesn’t reward male niceness, it rewards performance. Become a high performance person, and you will suffer less in life.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:18 PM
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Facts. This is actually exactly what J. Person talks about with regards to dominance hierarchies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 06:45 PM
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Mating opportunities arise from how high status we treat ourselves. Nah, I think I understood it well enough. You think mating opportunities arise when we "treat ourselves like we're high status." I mostly disagree. Delusion isn't that attractive to most women. Game does work sometimes, but it's an exceedingly short term strategy. For humans, honest signals are arbitrary based on the society you live in. In tribal societies, there are often challenging rites of passage men must go through in ord…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:53 PM
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Only to an extent. Women prefer what evolutionary biologists call “honest signals” of fitness. You can pose all you want, but women prefer men who are actually wealthy, actually charismatic, actually fit, etc. Game will sometimes work, but women can often see through cheap tactics. The best strategy is to pursue honest signals of sexual fitness, I.e. become someone she’d actually be attracted to, I.e. the top X% Plus, there's the added bonus of knowing deep down inside that you've actually earne…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:38 PM
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I don’t think it’s arbitrary, I think we’re hardwired to infer social status from mating opportunity. It’s an unfortunate evolutionary artifact but here we are - men who have more sex are likely to have more serotonin in their systems and experience less negative emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:35 PM
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TRP in its purest form recognizes all of this. It's no surprise. The solution is not to complain about it, or suggest that society should be less gynocentric. The solution is to "leave the matrix" as it were - to take "the red pill" and calmly accept what reality is, and adapt your mating strategy to that reality. The solution is to embrace that objective reality, and the benefits that that truth can intrinsically bring to you. You seem to get that part. All negative discussion of women... is ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:21 AM
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Maybe. Personally I don’t think it’s that bleak. I think society is moving towards serial monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:10 PM
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Define “effective.” The issue is, she’d probably find a husband but he’d be of such low quality she wouldn’t want to fuck him anyway. The attractive men she wants to have sex with probably don’t have to settle for such strict terms because they have options so they can influence the terms of the relationship instead of settling for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:36 PM
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Oh please, this “study” was conducted by the Mormons. That’s like asking Muslims to study whether burkas are good for women and society, and trusting them when they say “ah yes, burkas a very good. Also stoning immoral women is very praiseworthy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:30 PM
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She’s a kioshi warrior!!! 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:26 PM
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Orgasme, orgasyou, orgashim, orgasher, orgasthey, orgasthem, dontgasjews
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:36 PM
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Lol, a “social norm”?!? I’m so sorry for whoever said that, I hope they are introduced to the world of good sex sometime in their lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:35 PM
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You’re absolutely right, no one wants to be manipulated. Of course this all needs to happen under the pretext of mutual affection and generosity, not cold negotiation. But I also think every person needs to have clearly stated standards and expectations for how they’ll be treated, and be willing to leave if those conditions will not or cannot be met. Guys are learning to state their needs instead of just being “nice” and hoping for some tail later on. That’s a positive thing in my opinion. Belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 02:06 PM
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Ohhhh, gotcha. Yeah I totally forgot about that bc for me feelings are a given. A FWB situation would never work for me bc catching feelings is the best part about sex and without feelings sex is much less interesting imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 09:10 PM
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I think it’s more contextual than that. If you’re the top 20% at Tim Hortons you’ll be fine. Top 20% of plumbers or of welders that works too. But surgeon is high status automatically bc it’s very difficult and expensive. Not everyone has to be a surgeon to get laid, obviously. It was just an example of what's possible. Seriously, chicks dig surgeons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 08:27 PM
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Yes, 95%+ of the dudes in here saying "I need lots of different partners for novelty" probably rarely if ever have sex with anyone. They're sad porn addicts who get tired of jerking off to the same pornstar video after the thousandth time and think that means they need different faces. What they need, is to grow up. In my mind, "monogamous FWB" is the exact same as "girlfriend" or "boyfriend". I don't see how it's any different, but I'm open to your thoughts on that. And I agree, it's the best a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 08:15 PM
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Cool. Congrats on 12 years btw, I had no idea how long you'd been together. I can't speak for all men, I don't have hard stats on what percentage of men feel the need for frequently changing partners, but being a dude and having several friends who are dudes I can say they virtually all want LTRs not random hookups. Online dating is heavily biased towards people looking for ONS, so it may have affected your perception of men. Also this subreddit is filled with a particular subset of jaded dudes …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 05:42 PM
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Oh everyone loves sexual variety, that's why if women want a long term sexual partner, they need to put effort into the sex. They can initiate in different ways, initiate different positions, suggest trying new kinks, new toys, new anything. And it doesn't even have to be novel every time, but it can't be the same every time either. If the only novelty a woman can offer is the fact the guy hasn't seen her naked yet, then she's bad at sex. Ditto for the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:42 PM
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hahaha, so true. It's the misandric equivalent of the redpill's misogynistic subs. But they get a pass bc they're women so reddit doesn't ban them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:33 PM
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I think you're misinterpreting what she meant. She's saying the way he interacts with people seems forced or contrived. She feels he's being inauthentic, a wolf in sheep's clothing if you will. That would weird anyone out no matter who he is or what he looks like. Don't try to extrapolate that to "oh women only want natural chads, not normies who became chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:32 PM
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Hmmmm. May I suggest an alternative thesis? "Only a tiny number of guys really have the balls to take the actions which would make them an attractive option." Sure women want the top 20% of men, but the bar is realllllly not so high it cannot be met. Did you know you can become a surgeon in 7 years? It's possible. It's almost always the low-effort men complaining about hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:27 PM
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Exactly. Don't expect to find a quality meal at McDonalds, and don't expect to find an honest, trustworthy, long-term partner from online dating sites/apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:25 PM
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Don't shop at walmart for a 5-star meal. Don't seek out honest, decent, long-term men from online dating apps. Same logic. If there's any "swiping" involved, you're already scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to potential sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:24 PM
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Many will, yes. In fact, if you communicate up-front, "I'm totally down to do sexual things, but you can't be fucking other people while we fuck." I think most high value men would be totally fine with that. If I were dating, I'd much prefer it that way, bc I don't want STIs from some whacko's dick you may have banged 6 weeks ago. I'd actually prefer both get tested prior to any penetrative or oral sex, and only have sex with eachother for the duration of any sexual relationship. Yes, this requi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:22 PM
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Mmmmm, I seriously doubt this. But idk, maybe you really are Mr Chad McMuffin pants. Maybe women instantly get wet whenever you walk in the door. If so, good for you, but you need to realize your advice and lifestyle would not work for 99% of people, and a realistic sexual ROI for most people involves some investment of time, money, and charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:08 PM
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Oh she’ll have less money after divorce for sure, bc women usually marry up the socioeconomic ladder. But she won’t be destitute. I agree with you, grind away and work hard so you can have great pussy regardless of whether it’s a LTR or ONS. I’m just saying generally the best balance for men now is a series of medium term commitments bc you have an out if the sex life goes to shit. Seriously, trying to “woo” a new girl ever week or every month would be fucking EXHAUSTING. But also, being trapped…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:02 PM
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You’re absolutely free to pursue that strategy if you want, but practically speaking why not just split a check or invite her to do something free and see if there’s potential for a relationship? I just don’t see the utility in having such a strict mindset of “She’s gotta fuck me for free no matter what…” look, very few women do that. I totally get that you don’t want to feel used as an ATM, but you virtually always have to expend effort and often capital to get sex, that’s just a law of nature …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 03:55 PM
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Yes, but Coolidge didn’t account for human ingenuity. A human girl, if she is willing to put effort into your sex life, can extend the Coolidge effect duration by trying new things, new kinks, new positions, etc. If she’s unwilling to contribute to your sex life then yeah, just move on. But you can have satisfying and novel sexual experiences with the same woman for YEARS if she’s not an entitled starfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 03:50 PM
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Oof, hard disagree. I think medium term monogamy is where we’re headed bc people can change and even if you started out with your ideal person the can change in 30 years and you can be no longer compatible. Marriage as an institution and legal practice will continue to decline for this reason IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:05 PM
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Yeah, see, that’s practicality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:04 PM
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Mmmm, yeah kinda. You seem adverse to commitment but then won’t settle for anything besides absolute lifetime commitment? Dude, If you develop a relationship with a woman and she learns exactly what you like and gives it to you, thats wayyy better sex than some random sex from some person you don’t even know. The amount of “novel” sex you’d get from strangers pales in comparison to the amount of sex you can get from a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:02 PM
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Agreed, be cautious, but men here gotta stop acting like the sky has fallen and woe is me and every woman is the devil.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:00 PM
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Lol c’mon edge-lord, medium term commitment still exists, you don’t have to be 100% all or nothing, this isn’t the 1840’s, women aren’t automatically destitute without your paycheck. When the spark dies you can break up
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 12:59 PM
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Nah, you can just state your expectation for a 50/50 split up front. You don’t have to be silent bc there’s “confusion.” Grow a pair and politely say what you’d like to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 12:57 PM
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‘Scuse me while it comment on this gem of a thread. Generally speaking, the number of women willing to fuck without knowing your name is very small. If you don’t live under a rock this is somewhat evident.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 12:56 PM
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Idk, you both seem to think it has to be one or the other, but anytime there’s a lack of trust the best thing to do is break the transaction into discreet chunks and build trust that way. You can make out, but he has to pay for half the date, or you could give a handjob with the condition that it means y’all are exclusive now, etc. Thats the way most relationships start - there’s a gradual build towards what both want, it’s just not usually necessary to overtly treat it like a legal contract is …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 12:50 PM
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Yeah, maybe it should be EPALT - Enough People are Like That, which creates a valid concern and makes it worth discussing things like relationship history or preferences etc to make sure you’re on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 05:10 PM
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This is a balanced perspective and I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 05:06 PM
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You’re conceptualizing this all wrong, you need to understand the point of reference of the people who say AWALT. It’s much more true for unattractive men, the losers, the low status. In their frame of reference they’re frequently left for more valuable partners and they get jaded. It’s rarely true for the top 20-25% of men, so they’re not jaded. If given a chance, many women will upgrade to a better partner. Many are just as unattractive as their man though, or are stuck in a relationship for k…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 05:05 PM
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Lol, no nothing flipped most men are just useless now. Welcome to the modern world, adapt or suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 02:52 PM
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Hmmmm, you may wanna adjust the grammar or punctuation on that lil’ gem of a response there…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 02:50 PM
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I have a very controversial opinion on this, so ya’ll can feel free to downvote me: I think people should just be honest about their genetic biological sex - stereotypes and traditions be dammed. Wear what you want, live how you want, males have a Y chromosome, females have no Y chromosome. Yes even intersex people can neatly fit into this classification. Yes even people with androgen insensitivity syndrome and non-standard XYY or YYY or XXY chromosomes fit into this classification. All changing…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:47 AM
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I’m sorry, “necessary” was a poor choice of words. “Fine” is a better fit, so I edited it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 12:15 AM
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Lol. Literal opposite of what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 10:31 PM
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Hmmm, that sounds like envy talking, not any creepiness exhibited by women. This is the kind of bitter envy towards meritous people that gives TRP a bad name.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:53 PM
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With the greatest of respect, no. Sometimes feelings are not “valid.” For instance, if a women always fears black people, is that valid or is it just her internal bias towards black people? No, it’s just racism. If he’s armed, has saggy pants, and stares her down, THEN it’s valid. See the difference? Similarly, if a woman prematurely writes off a person, is it automatically valid or is it some internal bias/sexism/classism? I really hate to bring up RP ideology, but in the spirit of debate hear …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:49 PM
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I totally get where you’re coming from, but there’s virtually always a difference in libido (or a difference can develop over time) between partners. If we think of a “sexual relationship” as an ongoing thing, then sex can sometimes be done for the sake of the other person. If it’s always like that, it’s a problem. But occasionally using sex as an act of service for the other person is fine just like other favors like cleaning the toilet, paying the bills, buying gifts, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:42 PM
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Thank you for that, many people use men to get free shit and it shows genuine consideration that you’d at least bear part of the cost for an evening out. Props to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:38 PM
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Look, I’m a reasonable person, but I also hate dating “games” and am very glad to be married. If I were to date again, I would really really appreciate the girl splitting the check on the first date bc it shows she’s not just using me for free food - something that happens quite a lot to guys these days. If she’s interested in me and actually wants to continue dating then I’d be willing to start fulfilling the “provider role” or whatever, but if it becomes evident she’s not into me or there’s a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:35 PM
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Heh, this made me smile
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:16 AM
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Read the flair. Your input is not needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:51 AM
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Don’t apologize, it was very nice to read all that. Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:49 AM
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Simple and practical. I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:19 AM
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Cool. Props for taking initiative too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:52 PM
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Wow, very harsh. Thanks for the honesty though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:17 PM
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Sounds reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:17 PM
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Cool! Glad to hear you took initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:15 PM
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Congrats, thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:41 PM
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You're not being intellectually honest. Here's what people here mean by "liberated": If a woman masturbates on-screen in a TV show in the 60s, it's "- ew, disgusting" If a woman masturbates on-screen in a TV show today, it's "wow, hot. That's so liberating. She's beautiful and special and totally free to do that. Anyone saying otherwise is a prude" If a man masturbates on-screen in a TV show, whether 60s or now, it's still "ew, disgusting." Women have been liberated from sexual shame and expecta…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:17 PM
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Hahaha, genius
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:01 PM
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It’s so simple. Attractive women have no need for stupid dating apps. If they break up, there’s a long line of men waiting for a chance to get in her pants in the real world - zero effort needed. Dating apps mostly exist for average or below average women to get attention, validation, and ever so rarely some casual sex. Above average women are there SOLELY for the validation. Men sign up for dating apps bc they have no other option - bc they lack the network, social skills, courage, or attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:23 AM
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Lol, wtf? No one thinks of it like this. Pro-lifers want to preserve what they see as a human life. Pro-choicers want to preserve what they see as women’s reproductive rights. Wtf is all this weird noise about sexual strategy? No one thinks about it like that except weirdos in dark basements masturbating over fringe ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 10:25 PM
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Exactly. The whole “red pill” ideology started out as “look, girls want hot guys, so just become hot and stop worrying about other irrelevant details”. So all the fat male keyboard warriors took that as “ok let’s hate women bc they like hot guys, then discuss cringey inauthentic pickup tactics”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 01:47 PM
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No. Women are picky, but they’re not that picky. Any top male can have a kid at will. Yes life gets harder with a declining birth rate, but if society collapses it wouldn’t be because “women were too picky”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 01:45 PM
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Most women want commitment from men they consider attractive. And when they become attracted to another, that’s their current partner’s fault. /s They may not want rings and babies immediately, but they want the chads to be so into them they’d never look at another girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 01:57 AM
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Assets are rarely doubled. Usually, they're halved for men because women date up and across. I agree about family though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 06:16 PM
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This description seems the most sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 06:14 PM
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Careful bud, you're dangerously close to making your claim unfalsifiable with "whataboutisms"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 06:14 PM
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Because women value commitment too. Optimally, a woman locks down a good man, and sexual loyalty is the price she pays for his commitment. The loyalty you describe is not inherently desired, it's the result of mutual interest and potential consequences for breaking that trust. Humans are selfish and want what they want, when they want it, how they want it, with who they want. When they can't get it, they negotiate for how to get it, and loyalty is the associated transaction cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 06:03 PM
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Hey there, My apologies for the late reply. It has been a busy week. And thank YOU for the great conversation! A good faith debate on PPD? I thought I'd never see the day :-) Sure thing, glad you're back. ​ I would say the effect of women's liberation on the problems of being a male today are mainly their participation in the workforce - more participation from women means greater competition for that sweet corner office position. You could say the same regarding racial minorities. Greater labor…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 05:37 PM
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Bingo! We still have these odd 18th century preconceptions about lifelong monogamy that puts a stigma on when relationships inevitably change or end.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 06:28 PM
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Bc sex feels nice. To clarify, the emotional fulfillment and closeness that comes from sex feels nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 06:23 PM
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Hey first off, this is a great conversation. Thanks for being willing to discuss. The truth is, it is harder being a man today than it was 50/100 years ago. It is especially (comparatively) harder for white men who are not college educated. I 100% agree with this point. Skilled labor has been outsourced, leaving a huge number of middle aged men disaffected, broke, and alone. Suicidality is highest among that group of men. It's kinda sad, but so are the meaningless lives of most male elephant sea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 04:56 PM
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Yes, you get the concept. Women don't want the average man, nor should they. Even if the top men can't accommodate all the available women who want them, those women will not settle or "date down" now because now they don't have to. I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. It just is. The RPs and the MGTOWs want to paint this scenario as really really bad and fear monger about "the collapse of society", but the truth is, it'll only be bad for them. Life is actually gonna be awesome for the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 04:10 PM
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Edit: Reformatted to better answer the question. Even if we move towards stronger "socially enforced monogamy", women WILL NOT date down like they did in "the good ol' days" or whatever shit, because due to advances in technology, they no longer HAVE to - they're actually poised to earn MORE than average men do. The average man is fucked in every way except literally. Sexual competition will continue to increase, and the percentage of men that are bitter and disaffected will increase. We're esse…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:42 PM
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That's an interesting question. Statistically, they've tended to date minorities and immigrants, or move to second or third world economies where they are perceived as wealthier or more competent due to their nationality and may have an easier time getting laid. Philosophically, if you're asking if society should provide these men pussy because they exist, I don't think they're owed that privilege for breathing. In harsher times, the vast majority of these men would die alone at about 35-45 year…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:05 AM
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Yes, but it’s more complicated. The ratio in the dating market is determined by the birth rate of the population being measured. This is because usually men date women younger than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:21 PM
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Thanks for the numerical analysis!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:36 PM
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I think that exemplifies the attitude here. Women want to be the rarer sex, and men also want to be the rarer sex. Whoever is in highest demand can make the greatest demands and is held to the lowest standard of behavior and attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:35 PM
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Idk, I think it's interesting to leave it open-ended. I just want people's opinions. There could be many benefits to one extreme, and many benefits to the other extreme. Maybe everything works best with a perfect balance. Militaristically, technologically, socially, sexually, artistically, any skew in either directions could have alot of interesting effects in alot of different ways. I agree, there's some very interesting effects when the ratio becomes very skewed like in select colleges.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:31 PM
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Fascinating take, but difficult to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:28 PM
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Yes, the issue is ratios but skewed ratios is a product of declining birthrates. This was the big eye-opener in the video I watched. Normally, if a population is increasing, then each generation of men experiences a larger ratio of women to men. This occurs because men tend to date younger women. When a population shrinks, the opposite happens, and men of the previous generation effectively have far fewer women to date, making the ratio heavily skewed and there's more men than women. Right now, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:11 AM
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A 1-to-0 female to male ratio literally implies you want all men dead. It's not a new feminist take, just kind of passe IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:02 AM
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I disagree. There's only so many times a day that men can fuck. To an extent it's true, but even high libido men can only ejaculate 2-3 times a day comfortably.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:01 AM
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I read that article. Basically she was the average entitled western chick and didn’t want to initiate or put in any effort - then got upset and offended bc men weren’t approaching her and waiting hand and foot for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 09:41 PM
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