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A harder time, maybe, but still not a hard time. They have options — they always have options. It's just that the options they have, though of equal objective quality to those of shorter women, albeit options that are potentially of slightly smaller supply, are seen by them as being unsatisfactory due to their height.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 04:11 PM
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For women there are men that prefer short, men that prefer medium and men that prefer tall... for us there are essentially no women that prefer non-tall. Men have substantially higher variability in most traits, if I recall correctly. Men are nature's experiment, whereas women are nature's "if it ain't broke don't fix it" archetype. In any two equal-sized groups of men and women, there's likely to be far more idiots and geniuses in the group of men than in the group of women. That's the main rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 04:03 PM
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What are your views on your mothers and if applicable your daughters? My mother and sister are both stubborn and irrational, and both have anger issues. My mom is generally a good person, though, and knowledgeable about both the field she works in and many things outside of it. My sister, on the other hand, is a dreadful person to be around much of the time. Exactly the sort of woman a guy should avoid. Are your opinions consistent with all the women? I don't know all women. Hell, I don't know m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:12 AM
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I am hopeful that we can keep things amenable through the separation and inevitable divorce. She may be hopeful, but that won't stop her from fighting as though her fucking life depends on it to take as much of his stuff, and get as much alimony as possible, from the ensuing court hearing.
/r/MGTOW31/07/21 02:45 AM
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Yep. I bet she'll go on one or two dates at most with men who are shorter than her. Then, she'll make another reddit post about how empowering it is to date tall guys, and then set her height filter back to the 6'3-7'0 range.
/r/MGTOW30/07/21 04:10 AM
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^ much truth
/r/MGTOW30/07/21 04:07 AM
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Before I went MGTOW, I could never understand why guys wouldn't want to date tall women. Cases like this are definitely the exception, though. That's just too tall, even for someone who really doesn't care about height.
/r/MGTOW30/07/21 04:06 AM
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Media-kun validate my existence and sexual value Fucking lmao
/r/MGTOW29/07/21 01:45 AM
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And that's probably a generous underestimate, given the size of this sub before we got quarantined. We're reaching a wider audience, but we're still a very small minority.
/r/MGTOW28/07/21 03:58 AM
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Well to be fair, we're talking about the same sub that thinks consensual sex between a man and woman is always rape for the woman, and that watching porn is akin to actively supporting sex trafficking. It's hard to expect any meaningful amount of logic or self-awareness from that kind of crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:49 PM
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Yep, this is the best answer. I'd rather have a partner who puts down women but is faithful, kind, loyal, and sees me in high regard, than a partner who's convinced that my entire gender and I are conspiring to prevent her from being paid the same as men. Lesser of two evils.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:44 PM
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I must say you make a pretty good point, aside from the eugenics stuff at the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:37 PM
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Man, that's even more messed up than I had thought. India makes women in the west look like perfect little housewives, from the sounds of it. Must be like walking on eggshells.
/r/MGTOW25/07/21 06:17 PM
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Yep, that's how it goes. They cry about objectification, rape, and domestic abuse all day on social media. But when it comes time to choose between the sweet guy who will treat her right or the abusive, drunk ex-boyfriend with seemingly no respect for her, that sweet guy will be in for a lot of disappointment.
/r/MGTOW25/07/21 03:18 AM
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From the sounds of it, he's the sort of person who's nice enough that he'll just get tossed around by women for the rest of his life. He doesn't need to change who he is as a person if he wants a good life, but he'll have to make some serious changes if he wants a good dating life. But if he's smart, he won't bother. Why play the game if you have to alter virtually everything about who you are as a person just to have a fair chance? It's a complete waste of time for any self-respecting guy. Hope…
/r/MGTOW25/07/21 03:15 AM
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I fucking hope this bitch clogs her arteries. It'll happen any day now, from the looks of it. Good riddance.
/r/MGTOW25/07/21 03:09 AM
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Yep, I've heard that kind of shit as well. False accusations are through the roof in India, because there's so little risk of any consequences befalling them if they're found to be lying that they're effectively free to weaponize rape accusations to their heart's content. Women in India are soooo oppressed, hey guys? /s
/r/MGTOW25/07/21 03:08 AM
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With billions of women on the planet, to suggest that every single one will display a specific set of behavioral characteristics is a very flawed mindset. There will always be variance in such a large population. The important thing to remember is that variance when it comes to core instincts is incredibly rare. The key isn't that all women are like that. It's that enough women are like that that only a fool would play the game. We're talking maybe a few thousand women total at most that are ali…
/r/MGTOW24/07/21 09:40 PM
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A male journalist would be too busy actually helping to bother.
/r/MGTOW24/07/21 12:37 AM
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And I believe the next highest is "You hate women," at 13%. That one's my personal favorite.
/r/MGTOW24/07/21 12:35 AM
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They won't be resuming for a loooong while.
/r/MGTOW24/07/21 12:33 AM
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6 months ago I figured I'd sign up for a dating site. Can't remember which one. Figured it might be fun to try. Well, I filled out the basic details of my profile and chose a decent picture. Then I got to the info section. It made you choose a list of 3 questions from what must've been at least 30, then write a short little paragraph to answer the questions you chose. They were mostly just ice-breaker questions; what would you do in a zombie apocalypse (fight, run, or join them?), what's a super…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:53 AM
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Yep, I think this summarizes it pretty nicely. Most manosphere communities, as well as the incel community, largely believe in the same core ideas. Whatever response to those ideas is seen as the best or most rational in any particular one of those communities is predominantly what sets it apart from the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:46 AM
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Fellow man of culture.
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 01:18 AM
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Are men so desperate that basic decency and friendliness is interpreted as romantic/sexual interest? Eh, that's one way to interpret it. Realistically, though, it's more accurate to say that basic decency and friendliness being shown is so rare that it shouldn't come as a surprise that some of the men who are on the recieving end mistakenly interpret it as romantic/sexual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:45 AM
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Precisely. A parasite does what it needs to siphon energy/resources away from another living being, with no regard whatsoever for how it may affect that living being. It doesn't feel bad — it can't feel bad — about what it's doing. As far as it's concerned, if what it's doing benefits it, that must be the best course of action for it to take. No consideration, no remorse, no hesitation. Just unrivaled selfishness and unending greed.
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 12:19 AM
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Why do memories you've created together mean absolutely fucking nothing to women? They usually rationalize it like this: I found a better man than him. = I don't love him as much as my new man. = I don't love him at all compared to my new man. = I don't love him at all. = I didn't love him at all. Ever. And thus she convinces herself, and henceforth fully believes, that she never enjoyed any of those times. She must have been lying to herself, or putting on a show, or otherwise being manipulativ…
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 12:14 AM
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I swear there can't possibly be anyone on this sub, besides you and me, who understands this joke.
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 12:07 AM
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That's one way to do it. I tend to just avoid upvoting, since there's no way to predict which comments or posts will get you banned, but I feel bad sometimes seeing some high-quality stuff posted on this sub but not being able to show my appreciation for any of it. Maybe I'll make another account sometime soon.
/r/MGTOW20/07/21 05:21 PM
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A truth you don't know or have come to deny is no less true than one you've accepted. Might as well utilize the knowledge you have if you have it, else you'd be in the same shitty position as the millions of guys who will build their lives around a false reality, chasing unicorns until the day they die.
/r/MGTOW20/07/21 03:03 PM
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I hear you. This isn't my first account, and it won't be my last. We can't let a bit of bitter opposition talk us out of seeing the truth.
/r/MGTOW20/07/21 12:02 PM
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Chances are you're going to be spending a hell of a lot more time casually interacting with and being around her than you're going to be spending having sex with her. For that reason, personality and looks matter far more unless you're in a friends-with-benefits-style relationship. And even then, I think many guys would still choose an attractive woman who's bad or inexperienced at sex over an unattractive woman who's good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 02:44 AM
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I really feel for this guy. It's not his fault that he has an irresponsible parent with some obvious mental issues. Yet the torment that he's going through, and will go through in the future, as a result of that uncontrollable factor is so immeasurably damaging to a person's will to go on and perception of their self-worth that he'll likely walk out of it a shell of who he could've been if he had been born into a good family with a competent mother and a father who stuck around. I truly hope he …
/r/MGTOW20/07/21 02:20 AM
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I'm with you. Sick of all this BS. As a man you can wake up every day and work 8-12 hours to provide for your family, or bring about positive change in your community, or cultivate a valuable skill, or whatever you choose to do. Either way it doesn't matter, because at the end of the day you'll always be seen as obsolete, in the eyes of society, compared to a demographic that largely amounts to nothing more than a group of wretched, narcissistic, entitled parasites. Let the world burn; there's n…
/r/MGTOW20/07/21 02:15 AM
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They're like psychopaths. They have emotion and empathy, but they can choose on a moment-to-moment basis whether or not they feel it. Usually, they only choose to in situations where it benefits them, or where not doing so would bring about negative social consequences. The terrifying thing, just as with psychopaths, is that you can never see it coming — they're so impulsive and selfish that they're near-enough impossible to predict. Things might be going great, and then one day they flip the sw…
/r/MGTOW19/07/21 01:23 AM
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Yeah, they honestly don't really make much of a difference. They typically just cry sexism and misogyny, then the mods notice them and they get banned. They'd be far more impactful if they were capable of holding proper conversations and debates with people who hold opposing views.
/r/MGTOW11/07/21 04:04 AM
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A man of culture right here ^^ Thank you for saying what needed to be said.
/r/MGTOW09/07/21 02:16 AM
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If you miss the fun times, know that even if it hadn't happened now it likely would've happened eventually — that's how women like that are. If you miss her, know that it's just your brain kicking you for missing out on a potential mate. And if you miss the companionship, bring in some close friends. Do something together, hangout, anything. It'll help. Your value to her was clearly as a wallet. Not as a person, nor as a partner, nor as a man. That's a pretty shitty value system to internalize. …
/r/MGTOW08/07/21 02:22 AM
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That's true. Times are definitely changing, albeit at a pretty gradual pace.
/r/MGTOW05/07/21 04:22 PM
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That's an excellent point. It really doesn't do the real victim (the man who was falsely accused) any justice when a quick google search on his name will still bring up a story about how he's a supposed rapist, because his name was unfairly released before there was evidence to support that claim in any way. Ever notice how the accuser's name is never released? I recall reading a headline that went something along the lines of "[man's name] commits suicide after being falsely accused of rape by …
/r/MGTOW05/07/21 04:20 PM
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Men tend to be biased in favor of women, rather than hating other men due to competition. It might be the case that there's hatred involved some of the time, but generally it's just out of thirst and unwarranted admiration for women. Women do have a much stronger tendency to hate men as a whole, though. Especially in a situation where it's a man's word versus a woman's.
/r/MGTOW05/07/21 04:15 PM
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You're thinking anecdotal evidence — things you've experienced or seen. Empirical evidence typically refers to scientific literature.
/r/MGTOW05/07/21 04:08 AM
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20 and sick of them.
/r/MGTOW05/07/21 04:03 AM
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And that's how it should be. The notion that people accused of rape should be treated as guilty until proven innocent is absurdly misguided, and actively defies the very foundation upon which the justice system was built. What happens if you assume people are guilty by default? People start using false accusations as a weapon whenever someone does something they don't like. Which is exactly what women started doing with rape accusations as soon as they figured out people wouldn't give the men th…
/r/MGTOW05/07/21 04:01 AM
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For real though, attractive men have it even easier than attractive women do. They get all the benefits of being attractive, and the benefits of being a man; more rational, stronger, more independent, more capable, and their value doesn't decline anywhere near the time they turn 30.
/r/MGTOW05/07/21 03:55 AM
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That could fall apart on the off chance that she sticks around for long enough. Instead, say you got a 50% pay cut and start putting money away in an account she doesn't know about. Preferably in crypto, so she'll have a harder time stealing it if worst comes to worst and he ends up having to pay child support.
/r/MGTOW05/07/21 03:52 AM
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Plus, I wouldn't imagine the sort of friends she has would be worth bringing into your life. People who hang around good people tend to be good people. Needless to say, someone like her isn't spending much time around good people.
/r/MGTOW05/07/21 03:49 AM
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Hard work pays off, given the right opportunity. Since they can't rely on their gender to get them popularity, they're more likely to have to develop skill at their craft.
/r/MGTOW05/07/21 03:47 AM
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It's surprising how fast some of those terms have spread. Simp is probably the best example. It was a pretty esoteric term just a year or two ago, but lately it's become fairly widespread.
/r/MGTOW04/07/21 06:31 PM
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POV: You waited 3 months "until she was ready," and are about to receive your reward for being her bank account long-term provider.
/r/MGTOW04/07/21 06:24 PM
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And the same goes for face. Makeup will fix many issues easily enough. There's some component of genetics involved, but it's much smaller than it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:54 PM
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I learned years ago, NEVER help a woman in a domestic dispute (not saying that is what happened here) You were spot-on, as it turns out. It actually was a domestic dispute. Just another woman looking for attention, and the media trying to portray her as a victim of the patriarchy.
/r/MGTOW03/07/21 06:00 PM
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No remorse or concern whatsoever regarding how men are being sued into the ground for trying to help women. She doesn't even consider that taking measures to stop those men from being sued in that way might fix the problem. Why? Because she doesn't want that aspect of things to change. She only wants the consequences to change. She wants women to continue to be able to arbitrarily tear apart men's lives, while also having those very same men be perfectly willing to drop everything and risk their…
/r/MGTOW03/07/21 05:51 PM
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That too, yeah. There are endless examples of that in today's society, though the best ones are probably in the military and just about any job that requires a lot of heavy lifting. Back then, though, they most likely just outright wouldn't have been allowed. It was no mystery that women were (and still are) weaker than men, and nobody gave enough of a shit about political correctness in the 20th century, especially in those first few decades, to pretend that women would be capable of working th…
/r/MGTOW30/06/21 03:40 AM
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Women can be construction workers. No one is stopping them from being a trucker or logger or a miner, but they would rather get a humanities degree and complain that more women aren't in these jobs and yet they themselves don't want those jobs. That's just the thing. They can do all of that stuff — the so-called "patriarchy" isn't stopping them. But they think they're above those jobs, so by and large they wouldn't dream of doing them. They'll just continue to propagate the idea that rampant sex…
/r/MGTOW30/06/21 01:54 AM
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Breastfeeding from dairy cows who were raped is also not masculine. This sentence is absurdly retarded in so many different ways.
/r/MGTOW30/06/21 01:49 AM
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If she was mentally-well enough to hold a relationship down, she wouldn't be at a parade like that... Is what I like to think, but there's no saying for sure nowadays. Whatever unfortunate guy may have ended up married to her has my deepest condolences.
/r/MGTOW28/06/21 11:55 PM
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Those guys look like they're 10 years too early to catch that train. They'll get their chance after the wheels are rusted and the brakes are long-gone.
/r/MGTOW28/06/21 02:56 AM
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Lest women be held accountable in some way for their preferences. Apparently it's better to let young and foolish girls be murdered by convicts than showcase the nasty side effects of their shitty mating preferences and make some women who like that lifestyle uncomfortable. Oh well. Their problem, not ours. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
/r/MGTOW28/06/21 02:54 AM
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her sister wouldn't deserve it though. Eh, look closer. The sister doesn't give a shit about the wretched way those guys are being treated. Her only concern is with the consequences that could befall her if she does it to the wrong guy. She's smart enough not to do it herself, but not any less deserving than her sister when you look at her actual character.
/r/MGTOW28/06/21 02:51 AM
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Good sir, please refrain from bringing shame to the term "golem". Golems are endlessly hardworking, loyal creatures that will devotedly serve their masters until the end of time. This type of creature is neither loyal, nor hardworking. I believe the more appropriate term here is "tubby parasite".
/r/MGTOW27/06/21 01:59 AM
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That would be one hell of a painful fate to have. The man doesn't even get the chance to learn from his mistakes and recover after his 18 years are done. Made one shitty choice that he'll probably pay for for the rest of his life.
/r/MGTOW27/06/21 01:57 AM
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Or he's laughing at whatever guy signed up to get divorce-raped by her.
/r/MGTOW27/06/21 01:53 AM
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Regarding masculine traits that I value in women: Speaking one's mind is always good Honesty & honor Independence Some extent of stoicism, but perhaps not as much as a man may have. Regarding feminine traits that I value, or would value, in myself: I think I would be considered gentle. If I am, I suppose that would be a good thing. I'm too passive for my own good. If I had this trait to a lesser extent (but still present), it would be something I valued. Empathy is a feminine trait that I would …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 05:40 PM
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From my experience and understanding, machiavellianism tends to be more of a feminine trait than a masculine one. Is it not contradictory to put "assertiveness" and "speaking one's mind" under masculinity while simultaneously labelling "covert, behind-the-scenes manipulation" as such? I'm definitely at least a little bit biased on the matter, but I still strongly feel there must be at least somewhat of an issue with denoting this a trait that is specifically masculine. With that said, whether ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 05:33 PM
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I'm not gonna lie, that shit can get addictive. It's designed to be addictive. Anyone who values their time and sanity should stay as far away from that shit as possible.
/r/MGTOW25/06/21 05:00 PM
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*remain on the streets.
/r/MGTOW25/06/21 04:58 PM
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These cult accusations are pretty absurd, in my opinion. It wouldn't even be that accurate to call us a movement, let alone some sort of organized group designed to rope in as many guys as possible and stop them from leaving. People end up here — voluntarily, I might add — because women fucking tear their lives to pieces as if it were a sport. And they stay here, unsurprisingly, because they know that isn't about to change. We don't recruit, we don't use force or coercion to make people stay, an…
/r/MGTOW25/06/21 02:06 AM
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Thanks for the reply, I'll be sure to check those out!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:34 PM
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Compared to a woman who only offers one, a woman who can offer both is more valuable. And there's certainly not "no value" in her, even if she only provides one of those things. The point is that it costs a lot more time and money to be in a relationship with her than it typically does to make and hang around male friends. If those male friends offer you intellectual discussion already, then the difference in value between a woman who offers only sex and one who offers both will seem to be signi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:30 PM
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Ah, that makes sense, then. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:24 PM
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At least you're upfront about it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:23 PM
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Actually, it still appropriately fits with my comparison that the cost of a coffee is generally a negligible cost. Because the same applies when it comes to incrementing a person's n-count by 1 — both have mostly inconsequential effects on the aspect of their partner's value that they are concerned. Thus, if there's nothing wrong with a woman complaining about poor men, but having her man pay for her drinks, then there's also nothing wrong with a man who complains about high-n women wanting to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:21 PM
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It's infested by femcels/FDSers just as much as it has been by incels. But yeah, run while you still can. Don't say we didn't warn you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 04:24 AM
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I've been reading 1984 on my breaks at work for around a week now. Great book! Do you perchance have any recommendations for similar books that I could read when I finish it? And in response to your comment: Women are social creatures. They tend to go with the group. As such, it stands to reason that they'd be more ready to accept widespread dogma. And, just like you said, they're less confrontational so they're less likely to oppose an ideology that's become normalized. And the more time you sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 04:18 AM
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I think it mostly depends on her perception. If she's leaving the first boyfriend because she sees the second as being of higher value one way or another, then it's hypergamous. If she sees the second as being of lower value, then it doesn't make sense to call it hypergamy. It's still shitty, but it's shitty in a different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 04:14 AM
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Dating women is expensive. Most women, including those who complain about poor men, bring their men closer to being poor by dating them. In other words, women complain about men being poor while simultaneously making them poorer. By your logic, that should be equally as "fundamentally hypocritical" as men complaining about women with high n-counts while simultaneously wanting to contribute to their n-counts. But it's only bad when it's men who have standards women don't like, right? Nothing fund…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 04:09 AM
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If I have a bunch of male friends who offer intellectual discussion, then a woman who offers only intellectual discussion and sex will seem to only really be offering sex, since intellectual discussion can easily be acquired from other places. Other places that don't necessitate paying for dates to get to know someone and eventually become close enough with them that such discussions can be had on a regular basis. There are probably at least a few people around here outright arguing that women o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 04:02 AM
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They said alimony, not child support. There are some states where you can marry a someone, divorce after a certain period of time with no kids, and get stuck paying them hundreds or thousands of dollars a month in alimony for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:53 AM
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The breadwinner is to be a provider for as long as the other party takes care of their end of the deal. All bets are off after a divorce, unless she's going to continue to clean his house and cook meals for him for as long as she's receiving alimony payments.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:52 AM
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The concept makes sense, but only in cases where, for instance, one person was a stay at home parent from a young age (early adulthood) and, for that reason, didn't bother going to school or getting any qualifications for a good job (not counting experience). Then, after divorcing, they're abruptly thrust into the workforce to fend for themselves. With that said, the current state of alimony is just absurd. Notwithstanding the fact that it's just about exclusively awarded to women, it's often aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:47 AM
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Yeah, kind of takes away from it when you can't generalize everyone because you'd be making generalizations about yourself along with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:36 AM
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she will only belong to me therefore no friends, family and will stick to me with any activities we do together A common characteristic of abusers is that they tend to try to isolate their partners. Ie: cutting them off from their friends and family so that they're the only one that their partner is able to rely on. Listing someone having no friends or family as an ideal is a bit... off? With that said, I can see where you're coming from in making such a request, and I'm in no way accusing you o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:23 AM
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-1 point of appetite. Lmao, that's brilliant
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:12 AM
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This was a fun idea! Physical: She's a woman. Preferably not 2D, but at this point I'll take what I can get. 19-22 years old (I'm 20). Should be on the skinny side, with a small build. Not underweight, but closer to being underweight than overweight. Nice face, with reasonably clear skin. Some acne or scarring is fine, though. Freckles would be nice. Small breasts and butt — the smaller the better. Trimmed nails, or at the very least nails that aren't so long that they restrict what she's able t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:09 AM
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I had originally written a paragraph for each thing, but there are enough items now that I think I'll just make it a list. If you want clarification on anything, feel free to ask. She shouldn't be overweight. Shouldn't have a bigger build, either (yes, I prefer thin girls. Fight me). Excessive tattoos and/or piercings are a no-go. Her hair should be long enough that there's no confusion over her gender. Doesn't even have to be shoulder-length. If it goes down to her chin, that's fine with me. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:10 AM
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I've believed this for a long time. Not just with dating, but with everything. The more you compare what you have with other things, the easier it'll be to become discontent. Sticking with the same thing and not excessively exploring other options is the key, in my opinion, to being happy with what you have rather than always scrambling to move up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:34 AM
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I'm still searching for some semblance of proof that women are even remotely close to being capable of holding consistent values, rather than just arbitrarily adopting and discarding them based on what's most convenient for them in the moment. I don't expect the search to end anytime soon.
/r/MGTOW22/06/21 11:37 PM
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She never got off the carousel. She just waits until her husband is out with friends or has to put in some overtime at work. If women honored marriage, the divorce rate wouldn't be so absurdly high.
/r/MGTOW22/06/21 11:32 PM
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As a general rule, basing key values around what other people think is just about always a terrible idea. You can't control what others think of you, and sometimes they can think nasty things even without you doing anything wrong. People are unpredictable and inconsistent, and so, too, will be your extent of fulfilment in life if you define your worth as a person based on what others think of you or the things you do. This poor guy took it a step further, though. He cares more than anything not …
/r/MGTOW22/06/21 03:13 AM
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They couldn't function without their holes, though. The temptation of potentially getting some sort of intimacy is what makes their men to continue letting them siphon away all of their resources. Take even the physical possibility of it happening out of the equation, and there's no way that those men can continue to tell themselves "maybe she'll have sex with me this month if I surprise her with that new necklace she wanted" and actually believe any of it. The hope of maybe eventually getting t…
/r/MGTOW20/06/21 02:17 AM
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Lmao
/r/MGTOW20/06/21 02:10 AM
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This is spot-on in so many ways. Gave me a good laugh.
/r/MGTOW20/06/21 01:57 AM
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Women don't date down. They're hard-wired to look for man who can provide for her. A man who, by definition, must earn more than she does. In the age of female privilege equality, with women making up a larger and larger percentage of college graduates and being increasingly prioritized in hiring practices to fill diversity quotas, women will have more and more trouble finding men who out-earn them. Sucks to be them, I guess. Leeches get no sympathy from us.
/r/MGTOW19/06/21 02:45 AM
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Yep. It's an unpopular opinion, even among some TRP guys, but women objectively had it better even back when they were considered property. Not gonna throw a "/s" after this. This is genuinely how it is. Their whole lives, they were always looked after by the men around them who, despite what women and feminists nowadays might say, always had their best interests in mind. There were no gruelling 14-hour work days at $0.47/hour for women. No child labor in a factory starting at age 11 for women. …
/r/MGTOW18/06/21 07:23 PM
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It all depends on how you go about doing it. From the perspective of someone who's into RP stuff, you could just as easily seem conceited, rather than appearing to be someone who has their best interests in mind. Just look at how you worded the title of your post; "Is anyone else who has faired well in dating and just dabbled in RP noticing how difficult it is to try and help some of these guys?" As though they need to be saved from their own values, and you're undertaking the noble cause of try…
/r/ExRedPill18/06/21 03:40 PM
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Nice quote from u/GYOWAndy that I saw on this sub yesterday that seems quite applicable here: Pay by the hour, pay month to month, or sign that long term contract with that killer balloon payment when it fails, either way, you pay. Prostitution is taking the best part(s) of having a girlfriend, and cutting out all of the BS that, given enough time, will drive a man to the brink of insanity. You're gonna pay regardless, so you might as well pay only for the stuff you want, right?
/r/MGTOW16/06/21 04:49 AM
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I had actually forgotten that there were ads on reddit, lmao. Aside from being one step closer to being banned, I'd say we've got our fair share of luxuries here on this sub that come as a result of the quarantine.
/r/MGTOW16/06/21 04:40 AM
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. There's a damn good reason behind women having an extremely low representation in the professional gaming scene. Discrimination, oppression, and harassment have nothing to do with it.
/r/MGTOW15/06/21 03:43 AM
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There are so much place for improvements tho :) Certainly, as with anything. But I'm of the belief that it's a good enough place that they don't deserve to be bashed too much.
/r/MGTOW14/06/21 02:24 PM
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Yep, I thought the same thing when I saw it. I recall reading somewhere that other redditors can't view your IP address and other information shared with reddit when you visit a sub unless you're brought to an external page that they run. I'm not accusing OP of anything, and I think the concept is great, but I think I'll stick to hanging around here for the time being. Safety first. It'll be a while yet before they shut this sub down, and I'm not taking any chances in the mean time.
/r/MGTOW14/06/21 02:49 AM
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Absolutely, most women are only empathetic to other women. They'll cry when they see other women crying, they'll feel outrage when they see other women outraged, and they'll defend a woman who they feel is being unfairly treated. But show them an article about a man who had his d*ck cut off by his wife and they'll laugh like there's no tomorrow. Remember that talk show where a male victim of domestic violence reccounted a story of how he was locked on a balcony on the 3rd story of a building and…
/r/MGTOW14/06/21 02:41 AM
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A lot of guys here seem to be comparing it to FDS, but from what I've seen of r/redpillwomen it's not that bad a place. Just a bunch of women talking about how to please their man and be more ladylike. Hell, there's a post there right now literally asking for advice on how to improve at giving blowjobs. If that doesn't show some dedication to being a good partner, I don't know what does. Does the sub focus on gold digging and hypergamy? Yeah, it does. But we already know AWALT. At least the wome…
/r/MGTOW14/06/21 02:18 AM
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Yeah, I've observed the same thing. Nothing really wrong with the sub, to be honest. Just a bunch of women coming together to talk about how to be more feminine and attract more alpha men. At least they're honest — that's more than can be said about the rest of the female population.
/r/MGTOW14/06/21 02:12 AM
1

Dude's about to make a $132.5M+ mistake. Let's hope he has the sense to learn from it.
/r/MGTOW13/06/21 05:04 PM
3

Yep. People who say money can't buy happiness have either never had money or never been happy.
/r/MGTOW13/06/21 05:00 PM
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Now in all fairness, I'd happily take "the perfect relationship" over infinite money if it actually existed. A girl who could actually love me unconditionally, stay loyal throughout our lives, and (if the relationship was truly perfect) would be young and beautiful forever? That type of arrangement is far rarer and more valuable than infinite money in my eyes because it does not, will not, and cannot ever exist in reality due to the way that women are. The point of MGTOW is that it's foolish to …
/r/MGTOW13/06/21 04:58 PM
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Older women can sometimes understand. It takes a certain mindset that's very rare amongst women, but it happens. With that said, a 15 year old girl couldn't ever conceivably understand, nor objectively evaluate, what it is that MGTOW says about the world. Children and women both decide what to think about things primarily based on what others think about them. This is somewhat true of men, as humans are social creatures as a whole, but it holds true to a much lesser extent. In the case of childr…
/r/MGTOW12/06/21 04:03 PM
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she's just going to grow up to be a disgusting feminist now Probably already has, from the looks of it. Oh well. Yet another woman to unwittingly introduce guys to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW12/06/21 03:48 PM
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Women mature faster. Men mature further.
/r/MGTOW12/06/21 03:43 PM
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I've seen a few women post here. Like you said, they usually get banned. Most that are able to stick around are only lurkers, because we can't ban them if they don't post. With that said, they tend to act pretty indignant whenever they do end up posting. Something about MGTOW really seems to rub them the wrong way. Too bad for them!
/r/MGTOW12/06/21 03:39 PM
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They wouldn't bother even if they could. It's easier to leech off of a more welcoming host than it is to try to siphon the life force of someone who's actively trying not to let them do so.
/r/MGTOW12/06/21 02:37 PM
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Yep, especially considering the punishments women face are radically different from those that men tend to face. A man who was in that situation and came forward would probably get a few years. If she came forward, it would realistically amount to ten or twenty hours of community service max. Then, after her "punishment" was finished, she'd feel like she had faced appropriate retribution and go back to how she was before. The mental turmoil she's going through now, assuming she actually feels gu…
/r/MGTOW11/06/21 01:07 PM
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There was testing for it. But those "side effects" that she glossed over in her post include things like extremely severe depression. Ie: they stopped testing it because there was at least one instance of a suicide that was suspected to have been caused by a test subject being on the birth control prototype in question. Of course, to a woman, this isn't an excuse for a man to not take it. She'd rather a man run the risk of dying than have to take a pill herself once or twice a day with no real s…
/r/MGTOW10/06/21 02:22 AM
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Yeah, as horrendous and hateful a sub as FDS is, gotta give credit where credit is due. I'm sure they've helped countless men realize that women nowadays are a lost cause — either by those men browsing the sub, or being in the unfortunate position of trying to date a woman who frequents it.
/r/MGTOW10/06/21 02:16 AM
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I've been doing something similar, minus the limit on video games, lol. A few years ago, I realized that far too much of my time was being invested in checking social media to see if I had any sort of reply or friend request, or just mindlessly scrolling through posts by other people. It got to the point where I would check social media while waiting for food to heat up for 30 seconds in the microwave. Couldn't even go 30 seconds without trying to find something to occupy my mind. It took a dece…
/r/MGTOW09/06/21 03:27 AM
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Ironically, though not unsurprisingly, it hurts them a hell of a lot more than it hurts guys like us who've decided we've had enough. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. That goes both for women who make false accusations left and right and still expect men to give them the time of day, and for men who are naive enough to see other men's lives torn apart and still bother trying to make a difference.
/r/MGTOW09/06/21 01:54 AM
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Yeah, degrees are definitely good. Greater likelihood of financial independence and whatnot, provided the degree isn't something niche, like history, or useless, like gender studies. And, in the context of marriage, a degree may lead to a smaller gap between the earnings of both parties which would then translate to a decreased chance of one party owing alimony to the other in the event of a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:37 AM
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So what is your proposed solution? Return to female subjugation or up your game. ? Both of those options are terrible. Game only goes so far. And even if it was the be-all-end-all solution to sexlessness, I still don't think improving at it would be worth the effort. Female subjugation is neither desirable nor practical. I wouldn't be happy with a wife who's forced to love me, just as I couldn't be happy with a wife who pretends to love me. And, of course, it's not like I could just force a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 10:36 PM
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Yeah, that's definitely a fair point. Honestly, it's just pandering to what men want. If women want to attract men that they see as being of high value, it shouldn't be of any surprise that they'd try to play the part of the woman who'd be attractive to those men if their actual selves don't reflect that. It's a lot like all of those TRP guys out there who think they can get with a model just by "holding frame", because they think that that's what women are actually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 10:05 PM
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Generalizations don't become much more accurate when you add "oh but not all men, only 99%+" to the end. A ridiculous argument is still a ridiculous argument. It doesn't suddenly become correct when you acknowledge it doesn't apply in every single instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:59 PM
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InB4 men claiming to be the romantic,good gender yet the sex industry exists from the online type of porn,camgirls,onlyfans etc to the IRL type of strippers,escorts,sugarbabies etc Funny that you mention sugarbabies, even though that doesn't tend to involve sex at all. Rather, it tends to focus on affection and a relationship-like experience for the man while the woman gets money in return. indeed men try to have as much casual sex as possible and only after realising its a sausage fest in that …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:56 PM
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Ah, then that makes sense. In that case, I fully agree with you. If the homemaker persona is only a mask, the mask will slip off eventually. And when it does...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:38 PM
1

Can you briefly explain what a "pick me" is? That's an FDS term, right? My understanding was that it referred to a woman who tries to give in to as many demands as possible to a man to make herself most desirable or attractive to them. If that's the case, assuming she can keep it up, it stands to reason that a "pick me" would make a reasonably good housewife, would it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:28 PM
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Abolishing gender roles for whatever reason seems like a hated opinion on this sub. Gender roles are obviously going to be desirable when the alternative is women being extremely promiscuous throughout their 20's and then finding some poor sap she has no respect for to marry and provide for her when she turns 30. Not saying that's what the true alternative to traditional roles actually is, but upon the premise that some people here believe that to be the case, it makes perfect sense for them to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:25 PM
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would you date a woman who makes it clear that she's looking for a man with a good income so she can stay home? Not anymore, no. That arrangement simply isn't safe nowadays. She might stay with me for the rest of our lives, and work hard with me to build a lovely family and keep our household in order. That would be great. But the fact remains, especially if she doesn't have a degree or a bunch of job qualifications (though it's generally true regardless), that she could leave at any time, witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:16 PM
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Absolutely. The thing that really gets me about the whole thing, though, is the entitlement some seem to have toward being helped. The girl in the image is a perfect example. She thinks she's entitled to someone helping her, when all she does is leech off of others. She doesn't offer anything in return, and you can bet that she wouldn't even if she could. And if she doesn't get the help she's seeking, she'll inevitably complain about it. The usual "all men are trash" stuff you see plastered all …
/r/MGTOW08/06/21 09:05 PM
2

Meditation is some seriously powerful stuff. They say it can start to make physical changes to your brain after only around 6 weeks of daily practice. To any guys here who haven't tried it, I'd definitely recommend giving it a go. It might not be your cup of tea, but it's something that you'll lose very little by trying. If you hate it, at least you know. And if you like it, it can make a world of difference for your mental and physical well being.
/r/MGTOW08/06/21 08:53 PM
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If we're talking about what's preventing everyone from meditating, that would include women as well. As such, I'd attribute much of the reason to things like social media addiction. To someone who can't sit still for 5 minutes without checking Instagram, Facebook, or some sort of messenger app, meditation would be very difficult to do. And let's be real, if they had the sense and/or motivation to push through and start meditating in the first place they likely wouldn't have ended up dependent on…
/r/MGTOW08/06/21 08:50 PM
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Yep. The thought of being nice and giving someone in need a helping hand is definitely appealing, but most of that appeal dies down as soon as you recognize the sort of beating you'll take just for trying to be a good person.
/r/MGTOW08/06/21 08:42 PM
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^^
/r/MGTOW05/06/21 01:21 AM
1

That's a good point. I've seen much milder stuff about women get taken down instantly. Hell, I've seen some really bland subreddits get taken down because they were arbitrarily decided to be anti-woman.
/r/MGTOW05/06/21 12:56 AM
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I took it down and posted it again so I could hide their names. It's a satirical sub, so I didn't want them getting any hate for playing along.
/r/MGTOW04/06/21 12:44 AM
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I don't even know who I married at this point. I can't believe he could call a woman these things. Notice how she makes it sound like he just up and called an innocent, harmless woman a bunch of really nasty things? She completely ignores that she isn't just "a woman" to him. She's a woman who completely blindsided him. My god I hope she doesn't successfully sue for child support — it's plain as day that she'll try, but I really hope, for the sake of this guy, that she fails.
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 06:47 PM
1

In my experience, based on myself and the men around me, most guys are happiest when they have a purpose. Some extent of nihilism is natural following the realization that typical life goals, like having a loving wife and kids and getting a nice house with a white-picket fence to live with your family in, aren't safely achievable nowadays. But going through life without any sort of purpose or reason to be alive can be just as destructive as chasing the wrong purpose and slaving away for a woman …
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 06:39 PM
1

Maybe I'm just pessimistic but most people are dog shit. No, I think you've got the right idea. It's fine to theorize that there are honorable people, but going through life assuming the people around you will exemplify that quality would be outright foolish. Especially when it comes to believing that women, of all people, will be like that.
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 03:01 AM
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A woman doesn't feel sympathy or remose for a man, so she typically doesn't bother trying to factor in how a man might feel if she does a certain thing. Convenience, alongside a bit of consideration for any possible negative social implications, dictates best what a woman will do in any situation.
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 02:55 AM
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DO NOT... I REPEAT... DO NOT COMPARE YOURSELF TO OTHER PEOPLE. This is excellent advice. Comparing yourself to others is a quick and easy way to become forever unsatisfied with what you have in life.
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 02:51 AM
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SMV only matters if you play the game. A man who doesn't play can find happiness irrespective of how attractive he's seen to be by the opposite sex. All it takes is some good values to keep yourself in check and maybe a nice hobby or two.
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 02:48 AM
2

The sad part is, it's still too early to say whether she'll even need to find a new job after this.
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 02:39 AM
1

I wish that was actually an accurate predictor of whether a woman goes to jail, but past evidence points more to the contrary.
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 02:37 AM
1

It's nice to see some sort of consequences given to women for this kind of behavior. But then again, knowing how the world is today, it's probably too early to say whether she'll get the prison sentence she deserves, or whether it'll be the usual 20 hours of community service and a 2-week suspension of her teaching license.
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 02:35 AM
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No social media Came here to say this. Social media is a huge red flag, regardless of whether she checks instagram once a week or tinder once an hour.
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 02:29 AM
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It's a catch-22. She's either a nice woman, or she's clever enough that you won't know it's a lie until you're in far too deep. If there was a way to distinguish women who are unicorns from the majority of women that know how to act like unicorns, this sub probably wouldn't be around for you to ask for advice on. I can't say for sure whether unicorns exist or not, but trust me when I say you don't want to be stuck in a situation where you've tied your wellbeing to a woman smart enough to fool yo…
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 02:27 AM
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This is the real answer. And, far too often, the one that men dig their own graves by rejecting.
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 02:13 AM
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You got it all figured out before it was too late. Good for you! Life gets a hell of a lot easier from here, now that you've come this far.
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 02:10 AM
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Nothing wrong with a few young guys hanging around, learning from other guys' mistakes. If they're able to understand how women are, especially from such a young age, we should welcome them with open arms.
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 02:09 AM
1

The women from that sub are the lowest of the low, though. The general rule is probably too lenient in this case. I'd say scale up their self-attested n-count by at least an order of magnitude if you want an idea of the actual figure.
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 02:07 AM
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I honestly would've fully believed it was a snapshot from the real sub had you not pointed that out. Seems mostly on-par with the type of thing they talk about there, right down to the complete lack of any sort of sympathy for or attachment to the man.
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 02:04 AM
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What we know as love is a foreign concept to women. She never had any sort of attachment to him as a person — this much is guaranteed. She may stay with him, she may leave him, but she has never, will never, and can never experience genuine love for him.
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 01:53 AM
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Consent doesn't really apply to them, so there's really no point in teaching it. There are two possible sides to this coin: A woman initiates sex with a man. This isn't seen as rape or sexual assault generally, whether the man was consenting or not, so consent really doesn't play any sort of role. A man initiates sex with a woman. Whether or not it's consensual, the woman can lie about it and will always be believed by the majority of the people to whom she tells said lie. So, essentially, it re…
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 01:51 AM
2

Absolutely. I think dating is a waste of time to begin with, but there are definitely some best-practices when it comes to minimizing your chances of getting cheated on or left for some other guy. Avoiding women who use social media in the first place is a good example.
/r/MGTOW01/06/21 01:33 PM
1

That's probably the best one I've seen so far lmao
/r/MGTOW01/06/21 01:28 PM
1

The threshold for what's considered extremist content against women is significantly lower than what's considered extremist content against men. Just search #killallmen on twitter and you'll be bombarded with seemingly endless results just from the past week alone. None of those users are banned for posting that type of thing. Very few people are disagreeing with them, let alone reporting them. According to the masses, calling for a literal genocide against men is not hate speech. Meanwhile, we …
/r/MGTOW01/06/21 01:47 AM
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There's always a threshold. Most women will tell you they'd never cheat on or stray from their partner. That's what they want to think, and that's probably what anyone would think in their situation. The issue is, it's just not realistic. If you put yourself in a position where you allow yourself to be constantly pursued by tens or hundreds of other people interested in being with you, sooner or later you're gonna find someone who's so much better than your current partner that you couldn't fath…
/r/MGTOW01/06/21 01:25 AM
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The irony is that all of the mediums that she mentioned actually tend to tell women that they're perfect in every conceivable way, and that they can do no wrong. The primary ones at fault when it comes to harshly and ruthlessly criticizing women, especially online, are other women. There are some exceptions, obviously. Most of the guys here have no issue with criticizing women a fair bit — online, of course, for the sake of safety against false allegations and whatnot — but the majority of abuse…
/r/MGTOW31/05/21 01:53 AM
2

That's a good point. My argument was based on the assumption that most hiring practices nowadays are on merit, in which case (as you mentioned) hiring worse candidates would result in the business failing. The truly scary part, now that I think about it, is that we're likely moving closer and closer every day to the situation you'd described; where all companies are using these types of hiring practices, thus any additional companies that choose to start doing so won't fall below the new average…
/r/MGTOW31/05/21 01:47 AM
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Fortunately, there's usually another component that doesn't just go away if they try to ignore it in the name of diversity: finances. You run a business where people are hired by means of gender- and race-based discrimination rather than merit? Your business will run itself straight into the ground. It happened to that woman who made an all-female business, and it'll happen to anyone else who makes similar decisions. The economy doesn't give a fuck about diversity. If you make shitty hiring choi…
/r/MGTOW30/05/21 02:21 AM
1

That's terrifying, but I'm glad I read your comment. Very good to know.
/r/MGTOW30/05/21 02:12 AM
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Jeez, I hadn't thought of that. You're absolutely right, that's messed up.
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 04:16 AM
2

Ah, yep. Maybe 10-15 years ago. Fair enough!
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 02:03 AM
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Make sure to start a timer so you can see how long it takes before they ban you.
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 01:59 AM
5

Common mistake. Too bad he didn't get the chance to learn from it.
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 01:56 AM
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I believe the boy's soccer team also went on to demand equal pay to the national women's team for beating them. That headline made my day when I read it. It's a shame those boys would never in a million years be taken half as seriously as all of the women in society, who're typically doing objectively worse labor than what the men are doing, that are also demanding equal or greater pay to men. I used present-tense on "demanding" because even though those women got the equal pay they sought out, …
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 01:51 AM
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The conclusion is correct, but the predicate is slightly off. While [i] and [ii] are entirely true, she doesn't realize that they're true, therefore their truth couldn't have been a factor in her decision. She more than likely thinks women are another oppressed class, just like non-white races supposedly are. Probably just wanted some oppression sprinkles to put on her cake.
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 01:45 AM
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They truly are inferior to men. Even with a serious advantage, she still found a way to lose.
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 01:39 AM
1

It's very nice, but it's a bit unrealistic. You're telling me she left him 40% of the flowers and a nice suit? A real woman would've taken those from him too.
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 01:36 AM
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Anal is about as reliable a solution as pulling out is. There can be accidents and leakages. It only takes one mistake to chain you down for the next 18+ years of your life. Especially in situations like what the women in the article were in, where there's a strong incentive for such an accident to occur.
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 01:31 AM
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Yet the truth was, I had hatched a plan that many will doubtless find shocking... No way! You're telling me a woman thought of such a creative and wicked idea? I don't believe it! /s Vasectomies are the way to go nowadays, whether you plan to get entangled with women or not. Cover your ass so they can't up and steal the chair you sit on.
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 01:29 AM
10

That's absolutely astonishing. Doesn't surprise me to see it's a guy doing it. Whenever there's talent at such a high level in just about anything, it's almost always a guy.
/r/MGTOW28/05/21 03:15 AM
3

Well if you word it like that, they don't sound oppressed. Women love their victim status.
/r/MGTOW28/05/21 03:10 AM
5

It sort of goes without saying that a robot that could fulfill every need that a woman could would replace women without difficulty. Personally, I'm most interested in how little a robot could do while still being able to replace women. Lots of guys find affection to be a need that's notably harder to satisfy than sex, for instance. Would a robot that could cuddle while also being able to satisfy more carnal desires be sufficient for replacing women? I'd argue that, for most (honest) guys, the a…
/r/MGTOW28/05/21 03:03 AM
3

Stands to reason women are as bad at driving a country as they are at driving just about anything else.
/r/MGTOW27/05/21 04:03 AM
1

Cishet women's pandering to patriarchy is violence Is that a typo in the beginning? I can't fucking tell anymore. What a world we live in.
/r/MGTOW27/05/21 03:53 AM
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tHIs iS oPprEssIoN!
/r/MGTOW27/05/21 03:51 AM
1

There are certainly some guys that are just really nice, but I think for many it's a strings-attached type of thing. This means it's either something that a guy might do to maybe get closer to a woman, or something he might do to feel good (rather than just for the sake of helping someone). That said, I myself wouldn't bother to help a woman with anything in most situations unless I'm explicitly asked and can't reasonably turn her down. She probably wouldn't do the same for me anyway, and chance…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:45 PM
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How important are sexual compatibility, and "good bedroom skills" relative to other qualities... looks Sexual compatibility is important in relationships that are more reliant upon or based around sex. I don't really care about sexual compatibility with a girlfriend that I sleep with on a bi-weekly basis, etc.. Looks are generally at least a bit more important overall. I can be with a girl with whom I don't have sexual compatibility. I can't be with one I'm not physically attracted to. personali…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:35 PM
1

I like to see if she'll split the bill, in most cases. A girl who speaks up about it isn't a girl I want to be taking on any more dates in the future. But if she stays off her phone and is a pleasure to talk to, I'll usually pay. Seems like the right thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:17 PM
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That’s ridiculous, she had social media before the relationship, all those men giving her attention and still chose you. I think a bit of much-needed emphasis is missed here. She "chose" the guy, sure, but for what? It usually works out to be something along the lines of, "for a relationship that will last for as long as it takes for her to find a better guy." And how does she find better guys? Social media. It may not be a conscious decision on her part that she's going to leave as soon as some…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:29 AM
9

Is that common? From what I've heard, with as few matches as most guys get, they'll take whatever chance they may have at connecting with someone with whom they match.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:25 AM
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If they kill the conversation by giving shallow, one-word answers and making no attempt to facilitate any sort of real conversation and then subsequently stop responding afterwards because they're bored, then the fault lies with them. Indeed, having hundreds of messages from hundreds of different guys would definitely explain why they tend to give one-word answers. But the presence of that justification doesn't mean that they aren't still at fault for the outcome that comes as a direct result of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:22 AM
0

My bad, your comment before made it sound a lot more like you were speaking out specifically against single people, rather than people who are single because they've embraced the ideology of a group like incels or FDS or something. I think we see eye to eye on this for the most part. I'm with you that movements like that can be a detriment to the well being of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:58 AM
2

The junkie metaphor ceases to be valid when you use it like that. Many guys are hard-wired to seek female attention. The testosterone pumping through their veins will keep them asking "what if I could find a nice girl?" for a very long time, even if they find peace with a life of solitude and even if they never indulged in marriage or any relationships in the first place. It's completely different from someone who makes the shitty decision to snort cocaine at a party, and ends up getting addicte…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 10:23 PM
0

Being single, whether a person learns to be content like that or not, does not necessarily relate in any way to whether a person is anti-social or otherwise has anything wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 10:18 PM
10

100% this. It takes some tough experiences to get to that point, and it takes time afterward to fully accept and move past those tough experiences. But to a guy who reaches the summit, it's a pretty great thing to accomplish and can lead to a genuinely fulfilling life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 10:13 PM
1

Femininity: As someone else from this sub once said, "why would I want to date a woman who's already the best man in her life?" Feminists can say that being vulgar and promiscuous is empowering all they want to, but that's not gonna make any guy want to avoid them any less. Modesty: This mostly pertains to not being promiscuous or constantly out for attention on social media. Failing at either can easily be a serious red-flag for most guys with their heads screwed on properly. Rationality: Frequ…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 10:05 PM
1

*Case against her was dismissed on grounds of mental illnesses* *No steps taken to help treat her mental illnesses or put her into a psych ward to prevent herself from hurting herself or othes* Women sure are oppressed nowadays, hey guys?
/r/MGTOW25/05/21 05:23 PM
3

You are right, it makes sense, however, women are not the only ones to blame, since certain "men" participate in this, we must recognize this in order not to be labeled hypocrites. It's important to recognize that people aren't necessarily going to be likely to disclose their marital status when looking for a partner. Men may do this, because preselection would help with finding someone to cheat on their spouse with, but there isn't really much of a reason for women to do it. Especially in situa…
/r/MGTOW25/05/21 05:14 PM
3

A lot of the time, I think it's just rationalizations built around the (immoral and seriously mistaken) premise that two wrongs somehow make a right. The understanding is that she'll more than likely do the same to you sooner or later, so there's nothing wrong if you do it to her. This is a shitty mindset, of course. And, ironically, it's the same type of mindset that is commonly seen in the very same women they criticize. Petty revenge — especially preemptive revenge — won't solve anything. Lea…
/r/MGTOW25/05/21 05:03 PM
38

Too empowered to bother parking correctly. The white lines are a social construct!
/r/MGTOW25/05/21 12:06 AM
30

Too late.
/r/MGTOW25/05/21 12:05 AM
3

also them: omg the world is sooo unfair toward women! how come the top content creators are all men? twitch is sooo sexist!
/r/MGTOW25/05/21 12:04 AM
6

That's a one-way trip to getting accused of rape if ever I've seen one. I know it sucks to have to resort to underhanded means of getting out of a relationship safely nowadays, but you can't help the cards you're dealt. Times are tough.
/r/MGTOW23/05/21 06:19 PM
6

Or her long game is really good. AWALT is true, but women definitely differ on an individual level when it comes to how cold and calculating they can be. If you run into the wrong woman and try that strategy, she might see through it or anticipate that you'll recover from it quickly. Then she gets to keep draining you and makes you lower your guard.
/r/MGTOW23/05/21 06:16 PM
8

Can't take it too far. Calling someone an absurd amount of times can easily be seen as abusive or stalker-ish behavior if it's a man doing it. Just asking for money and crying in front of her should be more than enough to make her lose interest. You just have to give her a week or two to find herself a new man, just in case she doesn't already have one lined up (which is unlikely, but it happens).
/r/MGTOW23/05/21 06:12 PM
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I thought nothing could surprise me anymore. But fucking hell, this takes the cake. Women are psychotic.
/r/MGTOW23/05/21 06:10 PM
3

I like to think of this specifically as it pertains to actual chess. It's a cold, calculated, ruthless decision designed solely to benefit you in the long-run. Detached, in its entirety, from the concept that that pawn that's being thrown away might have dreams or aspirations of its own. Goals to strive toward that will never be accomplished. As a player, you don't care. The whole thing is a game, so a pawn is only as good as the utility it serves you. If sacrificing it can give you a positional…
/r/MGTOW22/05/21 02:26 AM
1

I think you make a valid point. I hadn't drawn that connection in my head yet, but I think it definitely makes a lot more sense to liken them to MGTOW than to incels. And I suppose that also does, indeed, make it quite a bit puzzling that access to prostitution hasn't seemed to satisfy that particular urge for them. There really isn't much beyond sex that you can get from a woman once you embrace a MGTOW-like perspective. But who knows. Their culture is radically different from ours, so maybe th…
/r/MGTOW22/05/21 01:05 AM
1

Incels, from what I understand, have a tendency to focus on what they can't have. That means if sex is missing, sex will "completely fix their lives". And if affection is missing, affection will "completely fix their lives". When they check one item off of the list, they just call their lives incomplete because of the next item. They've thrusted their minds into a mindset that leaves them forever unsatisfied. I can't say much for the so-called "herbivore men" of Japan, but if they're anything cl…
/r/MGTOW21/05/21 02:19 AM
2

Yep, it happens so frequently that they have a specific term for it. In Japanese, I believe it's called 過労死 ("Karoshi"). 過労, meaning excessive labor, and 死, meaning death.
/r/MGTOW20/05/21 01:33 AM
2

Sleeping too long is associated with similarly dangerous adverse effects as being sleep-deprived. That aside, duration doesn't mean nearly as much as the quality of sleep you're getting. Some things you can try that might help you sleep better: Get a schedule going. Even if it still takes a while to fall asleep, at least be in bed within 15-25 min of your goal every night. Eliminate as much light and noise as you can in your bedroom. This means either stop going to bed at a time that forces you …
/r/MGTOW20/05/21 01:25 AM
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Even with things that, to anyone in their right mind, wouldn't be considered sexist or inherently antithetical to the goals of feminism in any conceivable way. Remember that guy who landed that rover on Mars only to be brutally attacked online by feminists all across the world because they though the shirt he was wearing — which was a gift from a close female friend of his — was sexist?
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 05:26 PM
2

Best of luck to you.
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 05:19 PM
15

When you spend more, you save less. Women spend more. Economics is such a sexist field, isn't it?
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 05:15 PM
4

This was always a concern of mine pertaining to donating sperm, but your argument makes perfect sense. Thanks for clarifying, and for doing the research for us.
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 01:40 AM
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And, when it runs out they cannot turn back the clock, and they cannot make themselves more fertile. It's definitely nice that we have a good deal of control over it as men. Their SMVs will absolutely deteriorate over time, and there's nothing they can really do about it. No amount of makeup will make a 30-year-old woman look 22 again. Our SMV, on the other hand, isn't so strongly tethered to our age. It's correlated with our age because factors like a man's earnings are also correlated with age…
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 01:30 AM
2

For a demographic that's so insistent that men are wretched, violent, barbaric creatures, women sure seem to have an issue with it when we start leaving them alone.
/r/MGTOW17/05/21 03:16 AM
2

Yep, there would be no MGTOW men if MGTOW was wrong about the way things are.
/r/MGTOW17/05/21 03:13 AM
3

I always liked to think of them as matryoshka dolls. Beautiful on the outside with their painted faces and their fancy clothes. Hollow and plain on the inside.
/r/MGTOW17/05/21 03:11 AM
1

Fucking lmao
/r/MGTOW17/05/21 03:06 AM
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People notoriously have difficulties getting out of toxic or abusive relationships. Chances are if you feel you want her to stay even when you recognize the negative effects she has on your wellbeing, you feel that way because she found a way to make you feel that way. A way to manipulate you into feeling that way. And it stands to reason that if you'd have trouble getting up and leaving on your own, you'd have just as much trouble coming to terms with her leaving. To say the very least, it neve…
/r/MGTOW16/05/21 02:34 AM
1

I agree with this post as a whole, but I think most married men who eventually ended up here would still have been better off one way or another if they found this sub beforehand, even if it didn't necessarily end up leading to them avoiding their marriages. Maybe reading a few posts here would've made the difference between spotting a serious red flag a few weeks into a marriage versus not realizing it's a red flag until 5 years after they have kids. Or maybe they catch onto some behavioural pa…
/r/MGTOW16/05/21 02:13 AM
3

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Good on him for finding a better place to satisfy the urge.
/r/MGTOW15/05/21 04:44 PM
13

Looks pretty alright. I'm sure he'll find a lot more happiness playing video games and sitting on that lawn chair than he ever could've found lying on a fancy sofa, being berated by his wife.
/r/MGTOW15/05/21 02:03 AM
3

It slipped my mind for a bit that the alternative to what she calls the “fuck-zone” isn’t friendship, but being seen as a financial utility to be taken out of its box whenever she needs a new bag. You’re absolutely right. Thank you for the reminder.
/r/MGTOW13/05/21 02:51 PM
1

And in all fairness, it's perfectly reasonable that you wouldn't be an optimist based on what it sounds like you've been through. Hell, I've had a pretty good life so far and I wouldn't even call myself an optimist. Now that being said I also recognize within myself that I am doing way better than I did last year. It just feels like all of your good points in the complements and accomplishments become bittersweet after so much abuse. Give it time, if you can. Accomplishments are their own reward…
/r/ExRedPill13/05/21 03:54 AM
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A lot of it, I think, relates to maintaining the best mindset to improving your life. A lot of what's been done to you has already been done. It may very well be someone else's fault — anyone who would deny that doesn't know what they're talking about — but there's nothing you can do about the fact that it happened. Personal faults on the other hand, the type a person might discover by looking within rather than at the people around them, are usually possible to work on or at the very least acce…
/r/ExRedPill13/05/21 01:23 AM
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She would actually have a valid point if it were as hard to develop an actual personality as a lot of women make it look. Is it that hard to pick up a book from time to time? Or pick up a hobby other than "social media & the beach LOL & food"?
/r/MGTOW13/05/21 01:15 AM
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They say this shit as if men can just walk around blindfolded with $3K in cash sticking out of their back pockets and never have to worry about running into any trouble. Fucking as if. They can cry victim all they want, but it's a dangerous world out there no matter what your gender is.
/r/MGTOW12/05/21 09:00 PM
1

She's gonna be single for a loooong time.
/r/MGTOW12/05/21 08:58 PM
2

Ahh, good to know. I'll check that out.
/r/MGTOW12/05/21 08:54 PM
2

Are your traps (muscles on top of your shoulders leading up to the base of your skull) tight? When doing the movements do you feel fatigue in those muscles? Yes, they're usually quite tight when doing bicep curls. As for tricep curls, I don't think they feel too tight. I mostly just feel it in my arms and my back. From the sounds of it it seems your shoulders are rounding on the curls, and lifted when doing triceps. Keep your back slightly arched, like how a superhero puffs out his chest, for th…
/r/MGTOW12/05/21 07:53 PM
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Downward movements for bicep curls. When I've already brought the dumbells up, and am slowly bringing them down to the starting position. I think I also forgot to mention the pain tends tends to be a bit to the left of my spine when doing bicep curls. It isn't perfectly centered. As for tricep curls, it's a centered, and mostly-constant pain. It usually gets a bit worse when I'm doing the upward part of the curl. In both situations, the pain usually doesn't appear immediately. It takes a minute …
/r/MGTOW12/05/21 06:33 PM
1

Only in my mid-upper back. An inch or two below my shoulder blades.
/r/MGTOW12/05/21 05:38 PM
4

Any tips for avoiding back pain when lifting dumbells? I've been doing bicep and tricep curls with some 10 lbs at home, but my back often starts to hurt quite badly after a few minutes, particularly with the bicep curls. I keep good posture, as far as I can tell, but I still usually end up in at least a little bit of pain by the time my workout is over. I'm 19 years old, so back pain is unusual for me outside of working out.
/r/MGTOW12/05/21 03:09 PM
2

Perhaps it's just the ones I've had as friends, but I've noticed they seldom bother to start a conversation when the main mode of communication is texting. Really makes you wonder how much you mean to them when they're perfectly comfortable going months or years without talking to you if you aren't the one who starts talking to them first.
/r/MGTOW11/05/21 10:19 PM
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"So I don't see how not getting anything is fair to me." The entitlement is just absurd here. It's not like she'd be losing anything if she signed the prenup and then they split. She's angry about not receiving extra on top of keeping everything else she owns. If she actually planned to stay in the marriage, she more than likely wouldn't care. AWALT.
/r/MGTOW11/05/21 10:09 PM
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Precisely. In nature, positive feedback loops tend to have a lot of really nasty implications, and that's exactly what women have all-too-eagerly thrown themselves into. Just an endless loop of feeding their own egos, which then consequently inflate and subsequently require more feeding to be sustained. It's a wretched, hollow existence, and one that will try to corrupt any other existence that it comes into contact with.
/r/MGTOW11/05/21 08:52 PM
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Yep, it all stems back to social media. Reminds me of a comic I saw where a woman spends half an hour making a plate of pancakes and meticulously arranging every last detail. And the first thing she does after she's finished? Takes a selfie in front of the pancakes, then promptly throws them in the trash before going back to the couch and posting everything on instagram. It's a sad time for women and an even sadder time for the men who try to date them.
/r/MGTOW11/05/21 06:51 PM
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And let's not forget that those "hobbies" they like to talk so much about usually just entail eating, sleeping, and feeding their social media addictions.
/r/MGTOW11/05/21 06:29 PM
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I think we were around 200k or 300k back in January of 2020. It's been a while since we could actually see for ourselves, though, so I might be a bit off with that estimate. As for what got us quarantined, there was some lunatic who was a danger to the public and got himself arrested for conspiracy to commit a violent crime if I recall correctly. They found that he frequented this sub, and someone wrote an article about it that brought a ton of attention to the issue. So Reddit quarantined us an…
/r/MGTOW11/05/21 02:08 AM
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Yep. Happens more often than you might think. My most recent one was a 7-day suspension. The next one will be permanent. They don't even tell you what "offensive content" you upvoted, either. A safe bet if you're close to getting banned is to just stop upvoting. If you see a quality post, let the post's author know by leaving him a nice comment, or something.
/r/MGTOW11/05/21 02:04 AM
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A woman is never truly interested in a man. She's interested in his utility. And if she ever stumbles upon a chance to extract that utility from him, she'll promptly seize the opportunity to cut him off with no sign of remorse or regret, taking that utility with her as if she rightfully earned it. She never cared about Gates, most likely. She cared about his money or his potential to earn money. As soon as she was certain she could take that money for herself, suddenly he had no semblance of wor…
/r/MGTOW11/05/21 12:45 AM
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Anytime. Best of luck finding whatever it is that makes you happy.
/r/MGTOW10/05/21 10:38 PM
3

Gender is determined by genetics. Gender is determined by a tiny part of genetics, ie: whether a fertilized egg will have an X and Y chromosome or two Xs. From there, genetics are determined by gender, because the genetic information given to a fertilized egg with two X chromosomes will be different from the genetic information given to one with an X and a Y. I could be wrong, though. High school was a while ago. Please don't tell me you believe in trans identity lies. Nah, I've never bought int…
/r/MGTOW10/05/21 10:07 PM
1

I always figured they brag about that stuff because of projection. They're attracted to men who have good jobs and make good money, so they subconsciously assume that by making themselves appear that way they'll then attract the type of men who also have those traits. I was a skinny guy in high school, and I made the same mistake. Thinking that by getting skinnier, I'd somehow be entitled to a girlfriend who was also skinny. It's a pathetic and very incorrect mindset to be in. It's just that som…
/r/MGTOW210/05/21 09:53 PM
1

Yeah, anytime.
/r/MGTOW10/05/21 05:43 PM
2

It's different for every guy. For some guys, porn is enough. Some guys pay professionals for physical affection. Some guys get a sex doll or two. Some guys are fine just playing video games or watching anime. It definitely varies from person to person. Guys with a strong drive for human connection will naturally struggle a bit more, and will likely need to seek to satisfy that urge in ways that potentially make them more vulnerable to abuse by women and the system. For a guy without such a stron…
/r/MGTOW10/05/21 05:42 PM
2

This has to be satire, right?
/r/MGTOW10/05/21 04:58 PM
1

After which blaming the man becomes a new pathway, so that becomes second nature to her as well. It's a slippery slope from there.
/r/MGTOW10/05/21 02:13 PM
2

Underrated comment ^^
/r/MGTOW10/05/21 02:12 PM
1

I think that relates to an issue with their gender, rather than one with their genetics. Unless perhaps you're referring to whatever mental illnesses they ended up with, in which case you may have a valid argument.
/r/MGTOW10/05/21 02:02 PM
1

i am checking out purple pill and it seems like those dudes are still getting played. Yep, that's how it goes. Purple pill isn't a very smart strategy. It's barely any different from just staying blue-pilled, really.
/r/MGTOW10/05/21 01:55 PM
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They say some mental disorders are caused by certain normal behaviors being strongly exaggerated in a way that affects, or in some cases renders, the effective and normal functioning of the brain. If this is the case, it says a lot about which genders suffer more from which mental illnesses. Women invent and discard personalities on the fly depending on who they're around. My guess would be that BDP is more common among that demographic because even healthy women have a propensity for exhibiting…
/r/MGTOW10/05/21 02:12 AM
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I really don't get what makes women think they can monitor guys and tell them who they get to be around even after the dissolution of their relationship. The dude found someone to play chess with. That's awesome. Nothing wrong with that at all.
/r/MGTOW10/05/21 02:05 AM
2

Sure thing
/r/MGTOW10/05/21 01:44 AM
1

Glad I could help, my guy. It really isn't my wisdom, though, haha. It's really just pasting some relevant links here and there. Anyway, I saw a post on here talking about Robert Greene's Mastery earlier today. That one's also a really good read, though I'm not all the way through it yet. It focuses more on self-improvement than anything, though, so if you're looking to learn as much about TRP and MGTOW as you can, it might not be the best book to get into right away. I've also seen some talk ab…
/r/MGTOW10/05/21 01:43 AM
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Yep. They get perfect scores in all the wrong places. No way in hell they could compete with a dog. Not in the mind of any rational man.
/r/MGTOW09/05/21 11:20 PM
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Sounds like you want to go monk-mode, then. Purple pill means you know all of the fundamentals there are to know about female nature, but you choose to date and pursue women anyway. Regardless of whether you're looking to go monk, purple-pill, or anywhere in between, the best thing to do is to learn more about women. Learn about female nature, and about abuse and manipulation tactics that women ubiquitously employ. Once you learn the patterns, you'll see them everywhere. Once you see every woman…
/r/MGTOW09/05/21 11:11 PM
2

Someone else on this sub said it at some point a while back. I think it belongs here. "The best time to start something is 10 years ago. The second-best time is now."
/r/MGTOW09/05/21 10:57 PM
5

Nowadays, they can't really do either. But don't tell that to Netflix.
/r/MGTOW09/05/21 10:50 PM
7

Men have greater genetic variability than women. This means that in any given group of men, there's a very high chance that there will be more idiots and more geniuses than in an equally-sized group of women. In the case of chess, this would obviously translate to more super grandmasters and more people who can't grasp even basic opening theory. Nature does all of its experimentation with new traits on men. Women are born to be average. This is also why the Elo rating threshold for a male to be …
/r/MGTOW09/05/21 10:48 PM
12

100% this.
/r/MGTOW09/05/21 04:53 PM
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Tattoos and piercings on women are typically a sign of past trauma or abuse. More often than not, it's unresolved trauma or abuse — the type that they carry with them everywhere they go. The type that will haunt them indefinitely if they don't seek treatment and make an effort to recover. This is absolutely a huge red flag when it comes to forming any kind of relationship with them. If they have unresolved issues that are so significant they're driving them to make permanent and oftentimes hideo…
/r/MGTOW09/05/21 04:52 PM
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And let's not forget the cost he'll incur if he tries to mend that relationship instead of quitting while he's still ahead...
/r/MGTOW08/05/21 05:29 PM
5

Thanks for sharing! Proud of you :)
/r/MGTOW06/05/21 03:39 PM
3

Yep. Living in complete solitude, as nice as we often stereotype it to be, is an easy way to wreck your mental health. Gotta find some way to satisfy that urge for some kind of human connection. Even meeting from time to time with a close friend can be enough. Dogs are good companions, too.
/r/MGTOW05/05/21 07:06 PM
2

Mine as well. I actually saw an advert for it just this morning and thought it looked pretty good. Definitely going to see it sometime soon now that some guys from this sub have recommended it.
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 04:59 PM
1

When I was in my earliest year of high school, a remember a middle-aged lady walking past me and telling me to smile. So I did. She smiled back and sorta cheered me on, then we went our separate ways. I really don't see the problem. Genuinely made my day a bit better, actually. I honestly think it's the type of thing that could only ever ruin the mood of a truly stuck-up and conceited person who goes about their lives looking for ways to be offended.
/r/MGTOW01/05/21 01:36 AM
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And debt.
/r/MGTOW30/04/21 03:01 PM
5

Yep. The dude drove halfway up the mountain only to kick it into neutral and let himself roll all the way back down.
/r/MGTOW29/04/21 02:44 PM
8

I was just thinking the same thing. Seems like it would be a really useful tool for men to use to filter out hoes pretending to be perfect housewives.
/r/MGTOW29/04/21 02:38 PM
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Knowing how women are, I believe it. I'd be a hell of a lot more suspicious if it were an article about how unconditionally loving and kind those women were to their husbands.
/r/MGTOW27/04/21 11:53 PM
15

And she can't stick around to make your life a living hell afterward. You pay to have her leave, not for the sex.
/r/MGTOW27/04/21 11:46 PM
13

That's just prostitution with extra steps. I'll save myself the nagging, thank you very much.
/r/MGTOW27/04/21 11:45 PM
1

I'm interested, provided I can remain anonymous.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/21 02:26 AM
2

Yep, I've heard the same thing. Saw a few documentaries about prisons in those countries a few years back, and it seems like a really great system. I say as long as it's being dished out equally, focusing on rehabilitation has nothing but positives.
/r/MGTOW26/04/21 05:56 PM
2

With a woman like that, you usually don't need to know how she really looks to know it's best to avoid her. Might as well go easy on your eyes if the choice is up to you.
/r/MGTOW26/04/21 05:48 PM
2

The catch-22 of what she said is that no woman who demands more than 50/50 from the man for the reasons she listed is going to be the type of woman who would provide any of those things. Sure, there might be a few women like that out there, but they're inexplicably rare. The type of woman she is brings quite literally nothing of value to the table. Oftentimes not even sex, which isn't even that much to offer to begin with.
/r/MGTOW26/04/21 05:47 PM
2

They do. It's just that people tend to actually care when it happens to someone that either a) isn't white or b) isn't male. Non-white guys definitely still have it hard, though; I don't mean to imply they have it anywhere near as easy as women do.
/r/MGTOW26/04/21 01:27 AM
26

I remember that! That was brilliant. Gave me one hell of a laugh when I found out about it.
/r/MGTOW23/04/21 02:23 AM
7

I used to play a game called Town of Salem. It was a roleplaying game very similar to mafia, where you had to convince everyone else of your innocence and try to play the part as best you could. My win rate spiked as soon as I started using female-sounding aliases. People would trust me more, accuse me less, think more highly of me, and even sometimes throw the game for me. Yet women are supposedly marginalized and discriminated against in video games?
/r/AntiFeminists22/04/21 01:05 AM
1

Oh yeah, there was that post targeted specifically at you lmao. That's a fucking badge of honor if ever I've seen one. You make a fine point about their hard-wired response to social criticism. I hadn't thought of it quite like that before. That certainly paints a pretty clear picture of why they just can't seem to let us peacefully go about our lives and have these spaces to ourselves. And, of course, they fail to take into account that kicking us off of a place like this will only increase the…
/r/MGTOW18/04/21 11:00 PM
2

Theres no shortage of bad eggs here but they're really cherry picking the worst examples and then stating some outlandish takes on what MGTOW is about... Absolutely. I sometimes browse some of those anti-TRP subs and read whatever posts they have on MGTOW, and it never fails to disappoint me how much they try to misrepresent everyone here based on the very rare anomaly. Can't tell you how many posts I've seen talking about how MGTOW supports pedophilia because there have occasionally been pedoph…
/r/MGTOW18/04/21 02:46 PM
2

How many normal men actually think like this? Do normal men really think that women over 25 and 30 are “damaged goods” “old ugly hags” Normal guys don't think like this, I can assure you. Any extent of hatred for a demographic such as older women is all but guaranteed to stem from association with some sort of hate group. Most people (I hope) don't have any sort of involvement with those types of groups, so most people don't view women (or anyone) in that way just because of their age. [...] or …
/r/ExRedPill18/04/21 02:17 AM
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Sometimes I think it'd be interesting to have a conversation with someone who frequents subs like r/Feminism and r/BanFemaleHateSubs, and just ask what exactly it is that they find so appalling about the thought of a bunch of guys checking out of the game. I don't agree with every theory posted on this sub, but I think there's absolutely a lot of substance to the notion that women are obsessed with control, and it eats away at them to see would-be-hosts living fulfilling lives of solitude instea…
/r/MGTOW18/04/21 12:05 AM
1

Don't bother trying to look back at what you've said or upvoted. There's no real trend. I once upvoted every comment on a thread about deciding not to give women CPR in a time of need due to the risk of getting #MeToo'd. No consequences. Another day, I had a friendly, constructive conversation with a guy here about a game we both played. Immediate 7-day ban. You get banned for what people report, not for stuff that's necessarily wrong or offensive.
/r/MGTOW17/04/21 11:58 PM
2

Contributing to the problem lmao. I like it.
/r/MGTOW17/04/21 11:52 PM
1

Just be cautious about waiting too long before divorcing her. Depending on your state, waiting the extra 11 years could easily be the difference between paying alimony for a decade or for the rest of your life. Do your research, of course, but there's a chance you'll save in the long run for biting the bullet and going through the proceedings now (though you'd obviously suffer a lot short-term). Might not be worth it anyway, though, since getting even part-time custody can be extremely difficult…
/r/MGTOW17/04/21 05:14 PM
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I've noticed the same thing. It's for that exact reason that I really dislike it when I'm playing video games and end up on the same team as a girl who was a mic. Girls online are usually toxic, but it's made 10x worse by the way guys act when they're around. Evil breeds evil, as they say.
/r/MGTOW17/04/21 05:01 PM
5

I literally just wonder how it's so easy for people to just be like this, and not give af about what they really are involved with People believe what they want to believe. We see them as ignorant people who live in a delusion and vehemently deny the truth. They see us the same way. Our lie is their reality and vice versa. Not much you can do about it. Just live your life, and put on a nice facade so you aren't ostracized by the people you care about whose views may differ from yours.
/r/MGTOW17/04/21 04:59 PM
5

She'll reference it as the type of thing that will make a guy undesirable to her for years to come.
/r/MGTOW17/04/21 04:51 PM
2

I agree. It's a shame that they made the decision to throw their lives away, and take others' with them. If they just got a bit of help, or maybe a friend or two, they could very well have lived long and wonderful lives, as could the people that they killed.
/r/MGTOW15/04/21 08:22 PM
4

Ahh, I didn't catch onto that. You're more than likely right.
/r/MGTOW15/04/21 02:17 PM
11

Friend of mine never has never had a gf And he more than likely never will, if he keeps playing the simp card. At least he isn't missing out on much.
/r/MGTOW15/04/21 03:23 AM
4

Came here to say this. You summarized it quite well, my guy.
/r/MGTOW15/04/21 03:21 AM
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Notice how he tries to make the atrocities committed by Eliot Rodger and Alek Minassian seem like they weren't actually that bad because they "ended up killing more men than women"? This guy's an incel, sure, but he's a simp first and foremost. Absolutely pathetic.
/r/MGTOW15/04/21 03:20 AM
1

Ahh, I see. That makes sense. Thanks for clarifying! Have a good one.
/r/MGTOW09/04/21 07:04 PM
1

Apologies, it's hard to understand what you're insinuating because of the mass amount of typos you made. Wanna try again?
/r/MGTOW09/04/21 03:43 PM
3

Simps will always outnumber MGTOW men. Rejecting women and walking away from it all is the rational choice, but it's not anywhere close to being an easy one. If people can continue to convince themselves that women are worth their time, and are capable of loving and supporting them, you can bet that's what the majority will do. Anything to avoid the harsh reality that women are no different from any other animals; cruel and selfish to no end.
/r/MGTOW08/04/21 03:49 PM
2

Good in theory, but it's not a bulletproof solution. The system is designed for her; it'll find a way to benefit her one way or another. Looking at the orange text box, it says "A conjugal relationship is established when the partners cohabitate or support each other financially and emotionally or present themselves in public as a couple." A run-of-the-mill relationship nowadays just about always involves supporting the woman financially and emotionally, and you can bet she'll argue in court tha…
/r/MGTOW08/04/21 03:42 PM
2

That's a good point. I missed that. My bad.
/r/MGTOW08/04/21 12:45 AM
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...if she brings them up, you’re going bf o ignore her, change the subject or walk off. Yep, this is the way to do it. Being confrontational in any way with someone like her about her views as a feminist is just asking to be falsely accused of something.
/r/MGTOW07/04/21 04:22 PM
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Fascinating feminazi specimen. Even has her own little echo chamber. How lovely. Unfortunately for her, it doesn't look like she'll be finding a man who will stay around for long enough for her to beat him into submission anytime soon.
/r/MGTOW07/04/21 04:18 PM
2

Probably roughly half of the things in the list you gave. Face (acne scars), height (5'9), phenotype (somewhat feminine features and a rather high-pitched voice), lack of relatable hobbies (video games and studying Japanese), living in a culture that doesn't align with my desires, lack of sensual charm, and a lack of social intuition. It's reasonable to say I've come to hate people nowadays, but it doesn't show. Or if it does, the other things throw people off first. Oh well. Effort is the bigge…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 11:10 PM
25

it probably would've taken them a few days at most before they gave up and sent in an all-male crew that they would've taken all of the credit from anyway.
/r/MGTOW30/03/21 02:34 AM
3

All jokes aside, hats off to Minnesota for taking a step in the right direction. I hope this type of thing spreads to more states and countries.
/r/MGTOW29/03/21 02:55 PM
2

Do you have some examples in mind? I might agree with you but my brain hasn't woken up yet. Sure, just look at education. Women graduate from college/university quite a bit more than men do nowadays, but feminists are still pushing to get more women in the only fields (to my knowledge) where women are underrepresented; STEM fields. It's important to keep in mind, of course, that women are only underrepresented in STEM because of choice; not because of some glass ceiling or systemic sexism. Meanw…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 05:02 PM
2

I was referring to the time when feminism was still a bit outre. That makes perfect sense. That would be where the misunderstandings arose on my part, then. "Women are wonderful" might predate feminism, women have always been considered something of a civilizing influence, "the angel of the hearth" and all that, but feminism took that and ran with it. Yeah, I think it's fair to say it's been around for longer than feminism has been an influential and ubiquitous ideology. I would almost suspect i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 02:30 AM
2

Thanks for the recap; that summarizes it very effectively. That was my understanding of the dominant narrative. I was under the impression that feminism is largely what propagated most of what you described as the narrative specific to this sub. As such, I was a bit confused as to why you said there would be no feminism if we listened to mainstream society. Feminism, as far as I know, is one of the core ideologies that propagates a lot of what mainstream society tells us. Women are wonderful, me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 01:19 AM
1

I take no issue whatsoever with you criticizing the redpill. And I have no reason to, at that — I'm not actually a RPer myself. The only part of your statement I had any meaningful semblance of disagreement with was the self-righteous implication that what mainstream society says about the state of things is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 01:07 AM
1

May I ask what it is you're referring to as having being told to us by mainstream society? I suspect we're both basing our answers around two very different premises.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:04 PM
1

How much of your problem is solved? Would you be happier? I don't think any significant problems I have in life right now could be solved by sex/intimacy, but it's certainly reasonable to say that it would have a positive effect. I certainly wouldn't be any less happy from it, though I'm doubtful it would have an overwhelming effect on things. Less angry? I'm not a particularly angry person, so I don't expect that aspect would really change. Would you still hold contempt for women? I guess it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 04:56 PM
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Just because there's a narrative being pushed by mainstream society, doesn't mean that narrative is anywhere close to being correct. What's wrong with people coming to their own conclusions about things?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 04:24 PM
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Thanks for the definition. I was confused about what that meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 04:10 PM
2

I’m in it for the affection, not the sex. Abandoning my (hypothetical) current relationship for casual sex with other women doesn’t sound particularly appealing to me. And, of course, having said relationship devolve into a FWB type of arrangement sounds like an equally-undesireable outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 04:35 AM
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That's your decision, and that's perfectly fine. I respect that. But I personally couldn't justify risking my life for someone who would laugh at the thought of doing the same for me.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 03:43 PM
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Even so, I don't see FDS getting quarantined. Never heard of people on there getting banned just for lurking and upvoting occasional posts. Even upon the premise that MGTOW and FDS are but two sides of the same coin, that doesn't very well explain why nobody bats an eye at the stuff on FDS, yet MGTOW is branded as an offensive hate-group.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 12:09 AM
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That's definitely the smart thing to do in that situation. There's no telling what kind of misfortune you may incur if you were to help her directly and without any witnesses. Making others aware of the situation is the safest way to minimize the damage.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 12:03 AM
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You say that as if hashtags like #killallmen and #menaretrash aren't popular on Twitter among feminist circles. Firefighting is a dangerous job. Saving her would mean risking your life to do so. Maybe if it were as simple as "press this button to save this feminist's life", I'd save her. But if I have to put my own life on the line to save that of someone that would take great joy in hearing of my death, you can bet I'm not gonna bother. It's only fair.
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 11:56 PM
2

Yep. It's gonna be a rough 3 hours of community service for her.
/r/MGTOW04/03/21 05:36 PM
1

I was just thinking the same thing. I can't imagine the absolute horror he must've experienced seeing the same person who stabbed him and watched him bleed out show up alone and unsupervised at his hospital bed.
/r/MGTOW04/03/21 05:34 PM
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I once decided to browse around FDS for some organic redpills. Can confirm this shit is real. I've got a fairly high tolerance to people expressing morbid or hateful ideas, but that sub was too much for me.
/r/MGTOW04/03/21 05:33 PM
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/r/MGTOW02/03/21 09:36 PM
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...my interaction with him when i do see him is full of rage for what he did to me. ...I hate the person he has turned me into... The thing that really stands out to me here is the complete lack of agency for her actions. She divorced him. She chose to separate from him. This an entirely voluntary act by her, yet she blames him for every side-effect that's come about as a result of this evidently-shitty decision she made.
/r/MGTOW02/03/21 09:28 PM
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I tend to lurk here whenever it's not a purge week, but this was one I had to answer. A) Have you experienced any of the following during childhood?; parental divorce, parental substance misuse, or parental incarceration, poverty, bullying, bereavememt, or another type of trauma My parents divorced when I was very young — around 4 years old. My mom got full custody (my dad didn't fight for it). She met a really great guy when I was 6, with whom she's still together to this day. Of the other thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 12:56 AM
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Not to mention the unreal type of beating you'll take nowadays even if you manage to secure a bit of it. She'll just ditch you in a few years tops anyway, and you'll be left homeless, a few thousand dollars behind on alimony and child support payments that you're forced to make for a child that isn't even yours.
/r/MGTOW27/02/21 05:20 PM
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Pretty sure there was an international women's day a few years back where millions of women in America outright didn't show up to their jobs to demonstrate how imperative their work was to the functioning of society... only for their absence to make no difference whatsoever.
/r/MGTOW25/02/21 06:51 PM
1

She won't be dating anyone at this rate, rural or not. Time is ticking, Christmas cake.
/r/MGTOW24/02/21 07:10 PM
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Yep, there's nothing for us there. The last thing you want as a man is to get hooked on the same dopamine rush that women get addicted to.
/r/MGTOW24/02/21 07:07 PM
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"Women are suffering more…" "In October, more people died from suicide than had died from COVID-19 in Japan in all of 2020. There were 2,153 suicide deaths that month..." "…Women in Japan, in particular, have contributed to the uptick in suicides. In October, 879 women died by suicide in Japan..." Even with a drastic increase in women committing suicide, 60% of the suicides that month were men. Yet still, women most affected? The only reason there was any kind of a response of this magnitude to …
/r/MGTOW23/02/21 10:01 PM
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In the wild they are called "women" And in society, they are more appropriately referred to as "narcissists"
/r/MGTOW23/02/21 08:40 PM
2

The entitlement from this whore is utterly unbelievable. It baffles me how solipsistic women are. It's genuinely as though they think the world should cater to every essence of their being, and the preferences and rights of everyone else are irrelevant in contrast to the possibility of a woman getting her way.
/r/MGTOW23/02/21 08:37 PM
2

The "recycling" label is what really gets me. Take my upvote.
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 02:43 AM
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Women are hard-wired to never be satisfied with anything. This is why they'll always want a bigger house, a nicer car, and a more attractive man. Trying to satisfy a woman is much akin to throwing your time and hard-earned money into a black hole and hoping it'll toss something back out toward you as thanks. On an unrelated note, I really like this type of post. It was an excellent idea, and I just wanted to take a second to express my appreciation for it.
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 02:41 AM
2

I feel the same. Being raped would certainly be terrible, but it's a hell of a lot better than permanent unemployment (or a life of working minimum-wage jobs) paired with complete alienation from most friends and family.
/r/MGTOW07/01/21 03:42 AM
2

It always fascinates me how women tend to project their current feelings toward a matter or person onto their past selves, even if it makes no sense whatsoever based on their past actions. She talks about loving him so much in the past, yet she practically threw dirt in his face when he proposed? This same rationalization, without fail, happens around the time of divorce, too. Lest we forget about the classic "I never loved you" line.
/r/MGTOW07/01/21 03:24 AM
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Wow, so many "benefits"! Sounds like any man's paradise to me! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 04:35 AM
3

Obligatory "water is wet" reminder
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:40 AM
1

This is the important answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:34 AM
1

Ah, there exists one woman with slightly different standards than the rest in one specific category. We're all saved!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:32 AM
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No, not at all. I'd actually say I prefer them. I can only speak for my own personal preferences, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:30 AM
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Curiously enough, I'm 100% unattracted to boobs. Like everything else I'm totally into, but I look at boobs the same way I'd look at another guy's d*ck. I'd prefer if a girl's were small, for that reason, since they're out of the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:21 AM
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You're supposed to take calculated risks. Knowing the risks, is there anything wrong with an individual deciding marriage isn't worth it? That's still calculating the risks and making an informed decision. And that's exactly what MGTOW is. The risks to marriage are huge, so I'm not interested in marriage. Problem? That's like an idiot who buys all these stock in random shitty businesses, and when the businesses fail, he screams "THE STOCK MARKET SCREWED ME OVER". Stocks don't compare appropriate…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:23 AM
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Now this is the kind of high-quality purge-week post I like to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:50 PM
1

Yep, that's how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:32 PM
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Well yeah, everyone thinks about it. It's not an entirely insignificant factor. I've yet to meet a man for whom such a thing could ever be a deal-breaker, though, meaning it really doesn't play into the equation enough to be considered an actual criterion that men use. Not in my experience, anyway. The obvious exception to this, of course, is in the case of women who have a substantial amount of debt or are in a financial situation that would make starting a life together a significantly harder …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:24 PM
1

You're assuming these men were always unempathetic and woman-hating, and that that's the reason women don't care about them. I'd argue women not ever giving a shit about them was, in many cases, the reason for their disgruntled disposition. Flipping the logic around, why should those men care about the women who, for their entire lives, saw them as human garbage anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:37 PM
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This made my day
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:31 PM
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Don't we all?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:30 PM
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Untrustworthy, but attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:24 PM
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I wouldn't particularly care as long as they didn't expect that of me. If it goes both ways it's fine to have that type of preference, and I'm perfectly willing to respect that. I would obviously have an issue with it if she wanted me to do it to her but wasn't willing to reciprocate, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:15 PM
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Good bot
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:10 PM
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Malecels are fakecels. Fight me. None of you fake incels would date a truly horrific ugly girl. You all want Stacy. It goes both ways. Unattractive women have standards that are too high for unattractive men to be able to meet, too. Both sides tend to think (or wish) that they can do better. That's just how it goes. Just like there wouldn't be any kind of sex epidemic amongst young men nowadays if average women were willing to date average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:01 PM
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- Gaming addiction/drug/alcohol/tobacco addictions If you change "Gaming addiction" to social media addiction and flip the genders, you'll have a figure a lot higher than 90-95% being undateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:31 PM
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Sure, there are always outliers. When I said "men" in my comment, I meant men in general — the average man. I wasn't referring to whatever tiny percentage of men base attractiveness on a woman's income. If you seriously think the average man cares that much about a woman's income, just look at the proportion of men vs women who refuse to date partners that make less than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:13 PM
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Yep, I'm with you 100%. Her behavior was absolutely despicable and completely unjustified.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:05 PM
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You're right. Upon closer examination, a few of the studies I looked into actually mentioned something similar to that — maternal bonding paired with male intimidation is thought to cause the effect (not women just being "nicer"). My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:03 PM
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Ah yes, your assertion has cleverly revealed all of what I said to be unfounded. I admire your unrivaled skill at fabricating brilliant arguments to win debates rather than resorting to what I can only imagine was meant to be some sort of half-assed insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:59 PM
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That’s good advice, I’ll keep that in mind. I’m in my second year of college right now, so it’ll be quite some time before I can afford to go anywhere, though. For future reference, how long would you recommend going for?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:24 AM
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The purpose of the post is to sympathize with incels. As such, if any insight of value is to be gained, it makes sense to give the men in the examples the benefit of the doubt. If the autistic guy was genuinely just a little bit lacking in social skills and wasn't acting threatening in any conceivable manner, then I think it's safe to say that the way she treated him was awful. And I'm not even going to bother getting into what you brought up in the other example. It bears relation to the words …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:03 AM
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A few years ago, I decided I wanted to learn Japanese. After around a month or so, I ended up paying around $300 for a lifetime subscription to a certain website designed to allow people to learn as easily and efficiently as possible. I was terribly unmotivated after that, though, and kind of gave up on learning it. Until covid. Since around May 2020, I've been studying Japanese everyday. I've been mostly focusing on vocabulary and only recently starting to study up on grammar so that I can actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:51 AM
2

a weird a trick that will help you get laid on the first date And, if you're a man, one that will get you accused of rape shortly thereafter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:35 AM
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if you’re single, maybe it’s because people don’t want to date a person who hates their gender Hating the opposite gender is the result, not the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:26 AM
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I mean sure, if you want to dissect every word of my sentence, I'm perfectly fine with admitting that "likes" should perhaps be replaced with "favors" for it to be a more accurate depiction. You still haven't really disproven any of what I said, nor have you provided any semblance of a meaningful argument against my claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:24 AM
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What does that have to do with this topic? I used Russian roulette as a metaphor for marriage. Significant risks, little reward. You have to actually be informed to know if its a bad deal. I know what I risk enduring if I were to take a shot at marriage with a woman. Sure, I'll admit I didn't consider the statistics when I decided to go MGTOW. And sure, I'll admit I don't particularly care what the probability of divorce is according to those statistics. What I do know, and what you seem to real…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:21 AM
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That WOULD be fine, but MGTOW also bitch and whine when women don't want to fuck a dude by date 3. If she holds values that dictate it would be better to wait, that's perfectly fine. The issue is that all of that shit gets thrown out the window as soon as an attractive enough guy shows up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:59 AM
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Playing Russian roulette is a stupid decision whether there's 1 bullet in the chamber or 10 because dying is not a favorable outcome and there's really not much in it for you if you live. You can throw stats around all you want; a bad deal is a bad deal, and we're free to decide for ourselves what such a deal looks like. I, for one, don't need statistics to recognize a flawed system that I'd be better off avoiding.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:52 AM
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It's called the "women are wonderful effect". It's a built-in mechanism that causes men and women to automatically think more highly of women (the effect is stronger in women than in men, but is present in both genders). Your sarcastic statement does a surprisingly good job of summarizing it if you ignore the cognitive dissonance and take the words at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:37 AM
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The only reason a woman might think she's more attractive to men for having a good career is projection. They're gold diggers so they tend to assume everyone else is, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:23 AM
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This is an excellent point.
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 01:44 AM
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In all fairness, this is the sort of thinking that leads to people blindly living by the blue pill and violently rejecting any alternatives. I'm with you that all women are whores, if that's what your suggesting. I've nothing against the view you've expressed, nor is my intention to attack you in any way, shape, or form. But I can't say I agree with the way that conclusion has been reached.
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 01:43 AM
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"It's only fair, since you're going to be the one enjoying them!", she affectionately mutters before turning on her phone and reinstalling tinder.
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 01:16 AM
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This was an interesting watch
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 01:13 AM
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Why didn't he call the police and have this crazy bitch checked out. If the police showed up I can guarantee he'd be the one getting arrested unless there were undeniably clear signs of serious assault committed against him. Not just bruises or a black eye from being hit by her, either. We're talking actual stab wounds or gunshot wounds, maybe a missing finger or two (and even then it's iffy; remember Johnny Depp?). Otherwise, all it takes is her saying "he did it first" or "I felt threatened" a…
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 01:03 AM
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Or that she'd disclose anything resembling an accurate figure even if she did.
/r/MGTOW19/12/20 06:37 PM
1

Consent, or lack thereof, is whatever conveniences them the most at the time.
/r/MGTOW26/11/20 04:05 AM
1

Perks to them for making it easy to boycott lmao
/r/MGTOW22/11/20 11:58 PM
1

Thank you
/r/MGTOW18/11/20 08:08 PM
3

Anyone know what manga that's from?
/r/MGTOW15/11/20 05:29 PM
1

That sort of notion used to be engrained into the culture around 50-100 years ago. Until feminism completely killed it, of course. Now being a supportive partner (if you're a woman) is seen as a form of oppression, just like every other responsibility women don't want to own up to. "Rules for thee, but not for me".
/r/MGTOW04/11/20 08:34 PM
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Or rather, they were given freedom and they destroyed themselves.
/r/MGTOW02/11/20 10:59 PM
1

An alternate name for this post could be something along the lines of, ”Women: the starter pack”
/r/MGTOW02/11/20 05:41 AM
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I don't agree with many aspects of TRP, just like you mentioned; what kind of person chooses to continue to play the game after finding out it's rigged? That being said, I respect a lot of the choices they make beyond that. Hitting the gym, working on their careers and themselves, and allocating that success toward getting the things they want to acquire. We may not agree with the ends, but there's undeniably a lot to respect about the means. We can call them fools all we want for pursuing women…
/r/MGTOW01/11/20 08:03 PM
3

They say they want this solely because they want something to complain about. If there was actually safe and non-permanent birth control available for men you can bet that women would be outraged. They'd launch a full-scale social media campaign shaming the men taking the pill as well as the companies producing it, and parliament would eventually pass some kind of BS legislation forbidding men from taking it. Women love control. They would be livid if one of their most powerful tools was taken a…
/r/MGTOW01/11/20 07:43 PM
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Evolution probably explains it, just like with all else. Survivability was probably higher in groups with a bias in favour of their women, so that trait or tendency was passed down.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 12:38 AM
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Indeed. It's a sad truth, but it's the truth no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 12:37 AM
1

That's a strawman fallacy. I said that in situations where alimony is awarded, men pay it 97% of the time. My statistic was accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 12:35 AM
2

That was an enjoyable purge. I think I'm done with reddit for a while now. Take care, guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:09 PM
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Pay attention to their actions, not their words. They like to pretend marriage is better for men and that women are so oppressed today, but when it comes down to it they know very well marriage is nothing but downsides for men (and upsides for women).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:08 PM
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You're right for the most part, except for what you mentioned about being louder. Females get their way because both men and women tend to be significantly biased in favour of women, not because women are louder (though perhaps that may be somewhat of a contributing factor).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 09:49 PM
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According to the 2010 census, 97% of men pay alimony in situations where alimony is awarded. I don't know the stats for young men versus old, but I would imagine it would be roughly the same as the overall average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 09:41 PM
4

Yep, married men have families. And then their wives take all of it and run, leaving the guy homeless and tethered to lifetime alimony payments he can't dream of keeping up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:57 PM
1

Yep, that's how it is. They can lie all they want, but their actions never lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:39 PM
1

People are screwed up nowadays. There's always fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:35 PM
1

I'd swap out their ability to make false rape accusations and be completely believed, destroying the other person's life in the process. Not so that I could falsely accuse women of rape and ruin their lives, but so that I could live a normal life without having to be paranoid about saying the wrong thing in the presence of a woman and facing sexual assault charges shortly thereafter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:29 PM
8

It's best to be careful in this day and age. That shit feels amazing to do to some entitled whore, sure, but that's exactly the sort of thing that'll get you falsely accused of rape.
/r/MGTOW19/10/20 03:19 AM
7

The table is empty while they're there, and then they take the fucking thing with them when they leave. GYOW.
/r/MGTOW19/10/20 03:03 AM
2

Happy wife happy life? This guy won't be living a happy life for a long time unless he ditches her immediately.
/r/MGTOW19/10/20 02:55 AM
1

Learn to appreciate being on your own. If that's the way it's going to be regardless, then you might as well enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 10:54 PM
1

Aww, you beat me to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 10:24 PM
4

Yeah, they've really dropped the ball lately. In my med school, we had a system where 80% of the applications we received from women were automatically discarded. It worked wonders.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:49 PM
3

You're automatically eligible to collect patriarchy benefits when you turn 18. From then on, you should receive a membership confirmation form in the mail annually. If you missed it, don't worry; you can just visit the website online at any time if you want to register. The fees for running the site are taken out of women's wages, so browse around for as long as you please. An additional 40% will be added to your wages automatically regardless of your registration status (as long as you're a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:48 PM
1

Gotta find your own purpose, my guy. A new purpose. Women don't give a shit, and that's never going to change. They're literally hard-wired not to care about us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:40 PM
1

Yeah MGTOW and TRP diverge a lot. The foundational knowledge is similar, but there are drastic differences in just about everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:38 PM
3

I feel you, man. I totally get it. Having those urges can't be helped, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't have them as well. But I know that women will only bring me misery even if, by some miracle, I managed to get laid or find a girlfriend. As such, it's imperative that I don't let myself get into that mindset where women are all that matter. I've been there before and I fucking hated my life throughout that time period. If you don't find something other than women that you value in life then…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:33 PM
1

Ah, I completely misread that part. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:11 PM
2

Lmao. You sure proved me wrong!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:10 PM
3

MGTOW here. Do you see value in speaking with friends about your feelings? Absolutely, in situations where I've had feelings that were difficult to deal with by myself. There is certainly value to be had in stoicism and self-reliance, but humans aren't wired to handle all of life's troubles alone. Do you see value in speaking about rejection and do you support a buddy, who was in love and just got shot down? I don't bother with women, so I haven't experienced rejection firsthand in quite some ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:07 PM
2

Lmao. But in all fairness, genes matter significantly less for women than they do for men. A cat lady is still a cat lady, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:52 PM
1

What can I say? Uni life is pretty easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:51 PM
1

I'm glad to see some truth bombs being dropped by one of the most ambitious RPG projects of 2019, Raid: Shadow Legends. Friendly reminder that if you use the code in the description you can start with 50,000 silver and join the Special Launch Tournament. You better hurry because it's getting big fast! You can play for free with the link below on your smartphone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:47 PM
1

Lmao. I'm curious now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:40 PM
3

This is a fantastic idea! I think I'll try this sometime soon after purge week is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:39 PM
2

Vaccines do not cause cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:36 PM
3

This guy gets it ^^
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:35 PM
2

Similarly to how i_am_legi0n found TRP, I found MGTOW by change. I read a post and some of the comments and immediately saw strong parallels with what I'd observed up until that point in my life. The #metoo movement happened a few months later, which only bolstered the notion that women just aren't worth it and it's best to focus on self-improvement and finding peace in solitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:25 PM
3

It would be unjust to interrupt such a beautiful process of nature. I'd love to hear you say the same thing if it were you being unanimously selected against because you weren't attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:18 PM
3

This is why I support MGTOW. I might get some hate from saying this, but the way I see it it's just incels but with a supporting and self-improvement-oriented message instead of a nihilistic and self-destructive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:10 PM
5

What do you think? Were incels right? I've long-since been a believer that incels have all of the right knowledge, but they use it to destroy themselves. They know virtually all that is of any importance to know about women and female nature but they still hopelessly choose to derive their sense of self-worth from a game they know is rigged. They're "right" in that they know the right things, but they couldn't be more "wrong" about how to use those ideas to live a fulfilling life. They're the mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:05 PM
1

I don't really like women. Or more realistically, I really don't like women. But admittedly, LizardSinclair is pretty down to earth. I respect most of what she has to say to a high extent. She seems to be a rare instance of a genuinely rational woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 03:12 AM
1

It used to indicate a specific culture. A culture wherein women and sex were pedestalized by men unable to get either. Ever since women started throwing it around whenever they found a man on the internet they disagreed with, though, it's essentially just become synonymous with the term "virgin".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 03:02 AM
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Most men aren't going to be rich, most men aren't going to be pulling 9's in their 30's, past a certain point you start sounding like delusional blaxk queens or over the hill white women too into yoga. I couldn't agree more. Seeing men constantly preach that kind of shit is the aspect of TRP that I disagree with more than anything. There's always a limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 01:10 AM
2

Honestly you hit the nail pretty squarely on the head with that. Brilliantly written paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:48 AM
1

I feel you. It all seems like such a huge injustice toward well-natured guys that want nothing more than to be loved in return for the love they give. It's just the way women are wired, unfortunately. Nothing can be done to change it, so it's best to live despite it as happily and peacefully as you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:31 AM
1

RPW is mostly newbies getting terrible advice from TRP men that directly benefits RP men now. That's unfortunate. Seems like they really ruined what once was a pretty good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 07:47 PM
1

yeah but the point is nobody on any redpill page will tell him to "give up". I suppose I misinterpreted your stance on the matter. If you recognize that his SMV isn't necessarily going to change in any meaningful way, then there is indeed nothing here to debate. Instead they tell him to keep his confidence up and do his best, which is really good advice. You're absolutely right about this part here, and this is exactly the aspect of TRP that I agree with and support.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 07:34 PM
1

Lmao, just what I was looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 07:08 PM
2

But there also comes a point at which it's just delusional. You can always raise your SMV, but there's a ceiling for every man. Women's standards are absurd enough that it's all the more absurd to suggest that any man can get girls just by "lifting" and "holding frame". I'd love to debate you on this matter if you have some time to spare.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 07:03 PM
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It's like saying "If college students plan on finishing their careers, why are there so many dropouts" College students don't get absurd monthly payments from their colleges for dropping out. There's an inherent benefit (for women) to divorce, which comes in the form of alimony and, if applicable, child support. If college students got those sorts of payments, I'm sure we'd see a lot more dropouts. Just like what we see in marriages, where a wife loses interest in her husband and chooses lifetim…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 06:57 PM
1

Precisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 06:53 PM
1

That's extremely fucked up. This sort of thing is why marriage is a terrifying prospect for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 06:52 PM
2

We could also bring it together with paternity testing, wherein there could be a clause in the contract that states that if a child conceived by the wife is found to be from a different man then all financial obligations, as well as the marital contract itself, will be nullified if the husband so chooses. Sounds like a pretty sound system. It would never be implemented, though, because it wouldn't benefit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 06:49 PM
3

... they're (usually) just looking at the same facts TRP men cite and trying to use them to their best advantage to better their lives. It's largely about self-improvement, but the term Red Pill gets them in trouble a lot. I couldn't agree more with this analysis. I've seen a lot of people on this sub and others trashing RPW, especially with respect to them supposedly supporting abusive relationships. When I look at the RPW sub, all I see is a bunch of women using TRP to have better and healthie…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 06:41 PM
1

they advocate for harming others I don't mean to start an argument here — I ask because I'm genuinely curious — but what is your basis for these particular beliefs? I ask mostly with respect to TRP, as I'm sure we can all agree that there's plenty of proof that many incels advocate for violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 05:13 PM
1

Tbh I hate women I think a lot of us here feel the same way, rightfully so. I appreciate your honesty. Value your life more, though, my guy. You have more value than you might expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 05:09 PM
2

I feel you. I still find myself often thinking about the girl I liked in high school. I'm in my second year of college and it's been years since I've so much as talked to her. It's a dream that never seems to die, no matter how certain I become that any sort of involvement with her would have negatively affected me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 05:06 PM
1

I'll keep that in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 05:04 PM
2

Interesting. How would you view TRP men versus incels, then, if I may ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 04:59 PM
1

I tried to find the study, but no luck. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 03:45 AM
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I don't think they even see them as being human, let alone some sort of option for dating or a long-term relationship. It's a harsh truth, but that doesn't make it any less of a truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 03:42 AM
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Anyone else feel like they just don’t want to put in effort with women, and relationships? Definitely, my guy. It's a shitload of time and money spent chasing a demographic that will rarely show any genuine love or compassion toward you. I've long since been of the belief that there are much better things to which that time and money can be dedicated, which will bring about significantly more happiness. Is there anything wrong with my how i feel, and think? Not at all, especially given your circ…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 03:39 AM
2

It's always possible. There are plenty of studies out there showing that women with N-counts of over 20 have a roughly 70% infidelity rate. That means a whopping 30% of them are loyal. Is it possible? Absolutely. Should you bet on it happening? Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 03:31 AM
1

The shitty devs have long-since abandoned this game. We'll be stuck on this patch forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 03:18 AM
1

lmao bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 03:17 AM
1

Very interesting. Thank you for the response!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:42 AM
2

seal_connoisseur: best username I've seen in a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:39 AM
1

Interesting. Thanks for the response.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:37 AM
4

I think this is by far the most reasonable answer on this thread so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:33 AM
1

What is your perspective toward sex? Ie: how much value (if any) do you see in getting sex from women. Furthermore, how would you rank the importance of getting sex relative to the other aspects of a relationship such as non-sexual affection and love? Do you think, if looks became an irrelevant factor in relationships, that you would be significantly more likely to find a girl who liked you? Or would you expect things to remain mostly the same in that regard?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:28 AM
2

Would you "tie yourself to someone" with the way things currently are? And, if I may ask, are you a guy or a gal?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:20 AM
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I don't care if N=(0), N=(10), or N=(±∞); there are no good women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 11:55 PM
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I couldn't agree more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 11:16 PM
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Do you believe in self-defence? Like, let's say a serial killer has their eyes on you, and you have good reason to believe that the only way you're walking away from that encounter alive is if you kill them. Would you do it (or at least try)? Women manipulate men constantly and relentlessly. Upon the premise that women are all lovely angels who wouldn't hurt a fly, then you're absolutely right that it's terrible to manipulate them. But they aren't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 11:07 PM
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You mean to tell me they figured out how to turn on the stove? I call bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:57 PM
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I think that's reasonable as well. And hey, all I said was that people should be consistent. I'm with you 100% if you believe financial abortions shouldn't be allowed, and you also believe normal abortions shouldn't be allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:52 PM
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Gay men and chads, sure. But women are incapable of feeling love toward guys who aren't attractive — or at the very least, incapable of maintaining those feelings for any significant period of time. Women don't love average men --> Most men are, to women, of below-average attractiveness --> most men are not with partners who love (or will continue to love) them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:49 PM
3

Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:46 PM
1

That sounds genuinely interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:45 PM
1

Damn right! Happy circle-jerking, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:39 PM
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It isn't just women and chads. Unattractive men, by and large, deny it as well because it's a shit feeling knowing that no woman will ever love you. People would much rather look the other way than accept the cold and cruel fact that much of what they've been living for or dreaming of has been a complete lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:37 PM
1

Pro-abortion or anti-abortion, I don't really care. Just be consistent. Ie: if abortion is legal then there's no reason why financial abortion shouldn't also be. If it's legal to literally kill an unborn child, then there should be no issues whatsoever relating to a man refusing to support it financially for 20 years. But that'll never be legalized, of course, because it wouldn't benefit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:27 PM
2

The only working piece of advice ^^
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:15 PM
2

Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:13 PM
2

This is a lot closer than I had hoped it'd be. In which direction? That's for you to decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:13 PM
4

Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:02 PM
5

For real. I believe in MGTOW & TRP 100%, but never let it be said that I don't wish for a healthy relationship with a girl who loves me as much as I love her. It's just a fever dream at this point, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:00 PM
1

Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:58 PM
1

FDS is a cult ran by satanic vampires. You can just write "women". We'll know what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:56 PM
1

This is exactly why I subscribe to MGTOW instead of TRP. There's the general pragmatic consensus amongst those of both communities that women are pretty terrible most of the time. Yet despite this, TRP still advocates for chasing women in some way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:54 PM
1

Catchy song. What's it called?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:48 PM
3

And that's not even going into the shit that women claim they like. Ever see a girl genuinely crazy for a 4/10 guy over his personality? Me neither, and I don't expect I ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:41 PM
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If we're being realistic, they're probably just outright lying. Much more probable. Edit: Not gonna lie, I didn't actually read the comment lmao. I thought she was saying something about being attracted to non-chads. My bad. I'll keep this comment posted so you guys have something to downvote <3
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:39 PM
1

Presumably, though, whether or not you're trying isn't a criterion for whether you're an incel. Plenty of incels never stop trying, but no women would touch them with a 50-meter pole — an incel isn't less of an incel for trying. I mean you no disrespect in saying this, nor am I implying that you're an incel. I just don't think that's really a sensical measurement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 04:59 PM
1

I couldn’t agree more. The lack of women working in sewage and garbage can only be attributed to sYstEMiC OpPrEssiOn. I can only imagine how horrible women must feel knowing that, at this rate, they won’t ever have a future in garbage- or sewage-related occupations. Fucking /s
/r/MGTOW15/10/20 04:43 AM
1

"I consider a promiscuous woman one who..." And of course , only women fall into this category based on your definition? ... Presumably?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 01:03 AM
1

It has the same purpose now as it’s had for a long time; it’s a safety net for women, and one they can get into under the guise of a desire for “commitment“. To a lesser extent, it also serves to ensure a better life for any future children — one that, ideally, would involve both parents. Any advantages pertaining to this have taken a serious nosedive since no-fault divorce was introduced, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 03:30 PM
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I can’t believe they removed that post. Reddit truly has turned its back on free speech in favour of the “women can do no wrong” narrative.
/r/MGTOW14/10/20 03:23 PM
8

Someone had to say it lol
/r/MGTOW14/10/20 04:14 AM
4

Indeed. Time and time again, women have shown that the only thing they’ll ever be good at is disappointing us.
/r/MGTOW14/10/20 04:13 AM
1

I don’t think there is anything inherently wrong with gold diggers, because there is a market for them. There's also a market for heroin and crystal meth. Are drug dealers selling those substances also perfectly okay in your books? How about contract killers? How about child traffickers? There are markets for those, too. I recognize there's a substantial difference with respect to morality between gold-digging and selling drugs. But to say that something is justifiable or even just benign simply…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 04:01 AM
2

Just look around on this thread a bit. I can all but guarantee you'll find some people posting credible studies about a correlation between high n-count and inability to pair bond or a correlation with other issues such as infidelity. I couldn't be bothered to point toward those studies myself, because if we're being realistic you likely wouldn't be persuaded by them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 03:55 AM
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My ability to pair bond is almost as lacking as your average high-n woman. I've long since accepted that it's never going to happen. As for me, though, it's just how I am. I didn't bring this upon myself by making bad life choices and sleeping with everything that moved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 12:42 AM
1

It is
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 10:25 PM
4

What's so great about low-N women? How about the ability to pair-bond? That's always a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 10:16 PM
1

That’s a good take on it. Lines up well with female solipsism.
/r/MGTOW11/10/20 05:04 PM
1

The next day she started texting me saying that she didn’t mean any harm and she just “didn’t know” that I would get so mad at her for doing that. Notice there’s absolutely no apology for nearly killing him. No sign of remorse whatsoever that he could very well have died as a direct result of her actions. She’s sorry not for the attempted murder, but because he wasn’t alright with it.
/r/MGTOW11/10/20 04:12 PM
5

That sums it up quite nicely.
/r/MGTOW01/10/20 02:00 AM
3

My sister women date only goodlooking fuckboys that smash and dash Fixed it for you.
/r/MGTOW28/09/20 11:06 PM
1

As you said, it's obviously nothing compared to the gratitude men feel toward other people. But compared to what little "gratitude" they feel toward men, I'd say women do feel gratitude toward each other.
/r/MGTOW25/09/20 06:47 PM
7

I feel no sympathy for her or her husband or boyfriend. I'd say that's quite fitting; 9 times out of 10, she feels no sympathy for them either.
/r/MGTOW21/09/20 08:03 PM
1

I would go as far as to say that despite women not knowing what love is or how to get it, they still usually end up with it. They have issues holding onto the love they receive, though, because they don’t recognize it as such and usually end up taking it for granted.
/r/MGTOW21/09/20 04:13 PM
2

Personally, finding new friends is never something I've been very good at. I have a small but very close circle of friends, and that's about it. The pandemic certainly doesn't help things, though, in terms of getting out there any meeting new people.
/r/MGTOW20/09/20 04:32 PM
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This goes in accordance with what I've heard about the matter as well. Women tend to find attractive the things they're able to extract, like money and status. Once she feels as though her status has become equal to his, or once she's leeched enough money off of him, there's nothing left about him that she sees as special. So she hops back onto the carousel to find another host.
/r/MGTOW20/09/20 04:24 PM
1

Call me whatever names you want. Assertiveness is often good, but outright aggression and excessive competition isn’t usually so productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 11:19 PM
1

Same goes for excessively tall women Not sure how most men view excessively tall women. I don’t mind it myself, but that doesn’t mean much. breast sizes As for breast size, that I can say with confidence is a trait that men are all over the place about. Plenty of guys like smaller chests, plenty like bigger chests, and plenty don’t care. It’s not a significant game-changer in the way that jawlines are. general body shape/hips You’re not wrong, but this is essentially the same as a guy being seen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 11:17 PM
1

What advice would you give her? Be careful about who you sleep with, and don't be afraid to wait for a while to sleep with someone. Screwing up your pair-bonding ability is a very easy way to ensure you have a hell of a time finding and staying happy in a good relationship. What advice should her mother give her and not you? Vetting for guys, which was your second question, is something think her mother should likely advise her on. I, a straight guy, obviously don't know much about how to vet fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:43 PM
3

it's always "my preferences are fair but yours aren't." Sorry, what part of my reply was unreasonable with respect to preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:28 PM
1

Yeah, I think it's safe to say that's probably what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:26 PM
2

I remember once on this sub I said that 120-130 lbs was a normal weight for women and had multiple men come at me trying to spin that as overweight lmao It doesn't really make sense to provide a weight range, since whether something counts as a healthy weight is mostly determined by a person's height. If a 4" woman is 130 lbs, it's not unreasonable to say she's overweight. Since I don't know what height range you or the guys who were arguing with you were assuming these women fell under, I can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:24 PM
1

I'm personally curious as to why it is people post reworded posts in the first place. If you express the same point with more or less the same words and don't offer any new insight whatsoever, then why not just read the comments from the other 3 posts that did the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:03 PM
3

Not a thing. But you and I both know that is not what they do and it is not what they talk about. Meh, this isn't something we're going to get anywhere arguing about. Best to agree to disagree on this particular point. I'd say the same thing about slut shaming... You're right, those women are absolutely free to do whatever they want. That being said, I don't think it's justified to call someone a "slut shamer" for not wanting to go out with a girl who's slept with 40 guys by age 25 and completel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 09:59 PM
1

Curious why you have red flair if you're not RP? I'm MGTOW, which overlaps more with TRP than it does with any other pill that I'm aware of. More or less the same beliefs regarding women, just a different outlook on what the most sensible decision on how to utilize those beliefs to live a good life is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 09:52 PM
3

Why do we act like women don't have to meet insane appearance standards. Men whine about muscles or height but like... Have you seen the literally anatomically impossible images projected at women? Anatomically impossible images? You mean like not being morbidly overweight? That's the main criteria most men look for. Maybe a decent hip-waist ratio and a nice face to go along with it, but that is by no means "anatomically impossible". Why do we act like women having to meet any standards at all m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 09:47 PM
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It does no one any good to be fatalistic and hopeless in life. It's not as if people who believe this just give up and resolve to live a life of misery. The whole point is that since pursuing women is a lost cause it's best to build oneself up in other areas of life, and just have a good time with whatever amount of time we have left to live our lives. What's wrong with that? Basically men are mad that they're now being subjected to the same shit men have put women through for eons. Just because…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 09:37 PM
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I think the issue is that incel content is heavily cracked down upon on this sub, and at the same time people seem to like to equate "black pilled" to mean "incel". Since incel views are "invalid", and black pilled views are confused with incel views, black pilled views are also often dismissed as invalid without the chance to back up any decent points put forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 09:30 PM
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Yeah, I think there's usually a topic of interest that floats around for a few days. There'll be like 4 posts on it with slightly different wording before it finally dies out and then something else becomes popular. It was the same thing like two weeks ago with posts talking about the "male sexlessness epidemic".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 09:25 PM
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Now here's the thing. AF/BB may be a logical choice, but that doesn't mean it's the best choice. Mates being determined based on physical strength, a perceived ability to protect a woman, and a tendency to exert aggressive/dominating behaviour doesn't work to society's benefit the way things are right now. Those sorts of men are sometimes too competitive to work well with others and fit into a team, which is important in many aspects of modern civilization. Furthermore, traits that are actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 09:16 PM
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TRP is typically meant to help men get sex, not relationships. That stuff doesn't work for healthy long-term relationships, and a lot of the guys at the top who are promoting it all don't care about relationships anyway. I'm not a Redpiller, so I don't mean to defend gurus and PUAs and the like, but that seems like a pretty valid reason to me why they wouldn't be seen with girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 09:06 PM
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That restored my faith in humanity a tiny bit. It’s refreshing to see that some people outside of MGTOW are able to see it for what it is.
/r/MGTOW09/08/20 05:29 AM
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What's wrong about a 2/10 guy trying his luck and asks a top model out? Maybe she loves the way he laughs or how he's so knowledgeable in something she also likes, a common hobby. Maybe indeed. There’s a chance that she’ll love his personality so much that his appearance won’t matter at all. And they’ll end up in a committed relationship, they’ll both be faithful, eventually marry, and live a great life together. The odds of that happening, though? Multiple orders of magnitude lower than are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 05:15 AM
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Yeah lol. When you think about it, it's gotta be pretty baffling to feminists when they see men consistently outperforming women by substantial margins in just about every area despite being "the inferior gender". If men are terrible at everything, then why are men so much better than women at mathematics, logic, chess, business, sports, finance, reasoning, everything involving physical condition, and countless other things? Women only outperform men in negative areas, like manipulation.
/r/MGTOW09/08/20 02:42 AM
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If a man acted the way women act, he'd get nowhere in life. He'd end up with no money after a series of horrendous financial decisions, he'd lose his job for being a shit worker that does nothing but gossip and cause problems, his family would start to avoid him for his standoffish and entitled behaviour, and he'd lose all of his friends in a heartbeat. It takes a lot to work toward the standards of behaviour men set for themselves and each other. All you have to do to become more like women is …
/r/MGTOW09/08/20 02:36 AM
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This simply comes down to us having very different views regarding how women usually are, and how common those "sweet-natured girls" are in real life. On the premise that most women are sugar and spice and everything nice, you're absolutely right that RPW has nothing to offer in order to help those women have healthy relationships. I would argue that the premise is false, but it's not really something that can be proven or disproven with anything other than anecdotal or third-hand evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 01:24 AM
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Though I've probably spent an hour at most reading a few posts and comments from that sub, it didn't sound like that at all from what little I read. It seemed to me that it was all about providing the things men inherently want in a relationship while recognizing and working around the aspects of female nature that would cause them to tire of their partners. I could be wrong, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 10:53 PM
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RedPillWomen is pretty much the more altruistic version of TRP. Likely the closest thing to a "counterpart" that exists for women. Women using TRP information about their biology and urges to their advantage so as to have better and healthier relationships (by being better partners themselves, thereby increasing their value).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 06:43 PM
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The best defence.
/r/MGTOW08/08/20 05:48 AM
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Life with someone clearly better than you are must be unbearable. In all fairness, it’s not like she’s actually better than the beta husband she so viciously despises. Most women aren’t worth anything, so it’s all but guaranteed that whoever they end up with will be far better than them whether they realize it or not.
/r/MGTOW08/08/20 05:43 AM
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Well for whatever it’s worth, she didn’t always look like that. This is what she looked like before plastic surgery, or so I’ve been told.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 05:39 AM
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So he dates her (on and off, from the sounds of it) for only 2 years and claims that he’s officially found a girl who’s 100% without a doubt completely different from the rest? What a joke. 2 years is only enough to filter out the women with serious underlying issues; you aren’t going to figure out she’s a unicorn after only 2. Maybe after 20 years you could be reasonably sure, but you’re in far too deep at that point to be able to save yourself if when she turns out to be just another psychopat…
/r/MGTOW07/08/20 02:17 PM
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I believe physical attraction is a must for any good, lasting relationship. If that element of physical attraction just completely wasn’t there for her, I’d be terrified about the reason as to why she was sticking around (future divorce rape, planning to take me to the cleaners, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 03:26 PM
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I think it’s a perfectly fair question to ask your partner, but when I answered it I lied. Lmao. Not so much as an ounce of reason or accountability exists in her mind.
/r/MGTOW05/08/20 08:24 PM
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Women like to believe women are angels so they can feel good about themselves despite contributing nothing to society. Men like to believe women are angels because their biology wants to see women that way, with the thought that they might find a nice wife, pass on their genes, and live the rest of their lives in peace alongside their partner. The truth is fucking harsh. And while I don’t respect people that don’t have the balls to face reality the way it is, I sure as hell can’t blame them for …
/r/MGTOW05/08/20 05:41 PM
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This. Anime can provide great entertainment, but it can be dangerous if you allow your mind to get lost in that fantasy and start to think that the way anime girls are is at all similar to how women in real life are.
/r/MGTOW05/08/20 05:13 PM
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A DV charge would probably be more devastating than battery. It’s all up to what she feels like accusing him of anyway. If she feels like it, she might even throw a false rape accusation his way — it’s not like she needs any kind of evidence for his life to be ruined. As for her, she’d walk away without so much as a slap on the wrist no matter what kind of crime she committed.
/r/MGTOW05/08/20 03:55 PM
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A harem would always have a favourite. Whoever isn’t the favourite would only end up being hurt in the long run. I can’t speak for all guys, but if I had a harem I’d pick one girl and try to let the rest down nicely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 05:37 AM
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Yep lol
/r/MGTOW05/08/20 05:23 AM
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For real. When I was 14 I used to play a game that was sort of like an online version of the card game called “mafia”. People would hold text discussions inquiring about who had what role, and at the end of every day everyone voted to kill off one person who was suspected of being evil. Every match, you’d pick the username by which people would know you while the game was going. At first I’d pick random nicknames, but after around a year of playing the game I noticed that picking female names ga…
/r/MGTOW05/08/20 04:18 AM
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Those are some interesting studies, I suppose, but you still haven't answered the question that satanic asked. Those studies don't provide specific and concrete examples of men complaining about women having sex with men that aren't them. Also, friendly reminder that downvoting is against the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:40 PM
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But when a man lives his life knowing the cold hard reality of the world around him, he can make the best possible choices for him and the people that he cares about. 100% this. Not knowing about this stuff isn't going to do anyone any good. The assumption that one could make healthy and informed decisions about what to do with themselves without so much as a clue as to how anything works is hopelessly naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:14 PM
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Would a life of gleeful ignorance be preferable to a life of Red Pill truths? I would argue no. Maybe not knowing about female nature would be beneficial to many, but there's significant potential harm to be had from being ignorant about the state of the law, of family courts, and of the effects of social media on the present generation. These things are also talked about on TRP, though perhaps not as much as female nature. Unlike believing that women are bad and hate all men except for chads, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:07 PM
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The point is that they're presumably "interested". There are plenty of non-incels who aren't actively trying to find dates but are still very much open to the idea. Would you say those people aren't on the market?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 06:57 PM
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Go ahead and cite one concrete example of this. I really am curious. *Proceeds to link 3 subreddits (one of which doesn't exist) and 0 specific or concrete examples.*
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 06:56 PM
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People would hate it to no end, but it'd probably be doing them a favour in the long run by preventing the majority who would otherwise participate from fucking their reward systems and pair-bonding capabilities. I don't think I'd do it, simply because I don't think it's right to restrict freedoms like that, but I can definitely sympathize with the people who would want to ban it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 06:53 PM
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If someone is selling a product, that product is in the marketplace regardless of whether anyone wants or is buying said product.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 06:37 PM
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Unfortunately no, it's been so long since I read it. I tried a quick google search but couldn't find it there, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 07:17 PM
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Just stop conflating using with being attracted to. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 04:49 PM
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You said “men don’t use women for their money.” I said they aren’t “known for it”. That doesn’t mean no men do it. It simply isn’t as prevalent with men as it is with women. Indeed, you can find quite a few who do. I specifically acknowledged this in the comment you are replying to. What’s the point in making a reply at all if you aren’t going to read the comment for which you are making a reply?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 04:40 PM
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I recall reading that fetishes are strongly linked to experiences you held when first entering adolescence. As an example that I remember was given by the article, the influx of furries in the last century can be attributed to the sudden creation and popularization of anthropomorphic cartoons (like Disney movies featuring talking animals). It’s been a while, so I might be misremembering a few things about it, but that’s the general idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 03:39 PM
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In fact prenups were created to protect wealthy women from men marrying them for their money (when the law stated that a woman’s assets become the man’s assets upon marriage). This was literally in the 1850’s. It might’ve been an issue before women had any rights, but that time has long since passed. [Men using women for their money] happens every day and always has. Sure. There are a fair few terrible guys out there, nobody can deny that. But men aren’t hard-wired to become attracted to someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 03:31 PM
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Would they be wrong? Absolutely not, upwards of 99% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 06:08 AM
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Fair enough, I really can’t dispute any of that. I wasn’t aware any MGTOWs had done anything like the article in the link you posted. I don’t buy that female-hate subs are supposedly looked down upon to a lesser extent than are male-hate subs, like you’d suggested in an earlier comment in this thread, but I’ll admit you’ve clearly proven the point that I argued to be very much invalid. Thanks for taking the time to type all of that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 05:34 AM
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I care about the fact that men's groups are advocating for violence against women that has actually led to death in the real world. And primarily that no one cares. When violent content is directed at women, most people look the other way The only group like this that comes to mind is the incels subreddit. That was banned a while ago, because it advocated for violence against women, meaning you cannot claim with any extent of validity that the incels subreddit exemplifies a hate sub against wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 03:49 AM
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Men aren’t really known for using women for their money. Women, as the stereotype (and everyone on FDS) goes, are often guilty of it. Because of that stereotype (which isn’t always necessarily just a stereotype), people are more “aware” that women sometimes use men for their money. They’re more likely to make that connection in their heads that if the guy pays for everything, the girl is a gold-digger. As such, when people hear that your boyfriend pays for everything they’re more likely to assum…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 03:29 AM
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You can never know if a woman is NAWALT or AWALT until it’s far too late. The entirety of women are essentially psychopaths. And psychopaths are notoriously very talented at mimicking emotions and empathy. And it certainly doesn’t help that the government gives them every opportunity to stab you in the back. It’s russian roulette with a semi-automatic rifle.
/r/MGTOW02/08/20 04:20 AM
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Best answer
/r/MGTOW02/08/20 04:16 AM
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I’d be very cautious about having her pay to live there, if I were you. In places where common-law marriage is a thing you’re pretty much out of a house if she stays there for too long and contributes in any way to paying for the house. Having her pay rent just gives her evidence that she contributed financially later on down the road when she tries to take you to the cleaner.
/r/MGTOW02/08/20 04:08 AM
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Wow. That video genuinely makes western women look almost like girlfriend material... Almost.
/r/MGTOW02/08/20 12:24 AM
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I find it helps to specifically acknowledge the times when I’m happy being on my own. I get lonely — lots of guys do — but recognizing that that feeling is fleeting, and that I am more than capable of enjoying myself despite it, tends to help quite a lot. Another thing to remember, though, is that there isn’t really a viable alternative to being without a woman. There’s a good reason why you’re here, and why all of us are here. There’s so much to lose going into a relationship, and all you gain …
/r/MGTOW01/08/20 11:47 PM
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Just a little, yeah. As long as she plans to keep working.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 11:15 PM
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Wise words.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 08:51 PM
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Not to mention women are usually against marrying a guy who makes less than her. I wonder why that may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 08:50 PM
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Lmao
/r/MGTOW01/08/20 04:26 AM
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This made my day
/r/MGTOW01/08/20 04:25 AM
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Ah, yeah that makes sense, then, if nothing was really staying down. Seems like you got things mostly figured out. Glad to hear it.
/r/MGTOW01/08/20 01:25 AM
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Out of curiosity, what have you been eating while you’ve been under the weather? Do you have the strength to prepare a big and nutritious meal for yourself, or has it mostly been canned foods or other things that are easy to prepare? The one (and only) merit cohabitation has is that whoever you’re with can take care of you if you fall ill. For this reason alongside others related to it, people who live alone supposedly have a much higher chance of dying. Anyway, I hope you feel better soon.
/r/MGTOW31/07/20 11:49 PM
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I doubt it’s had much of an effect on my ability to resist female advances, though I’ve stayed well clear of women since going my own way so it’s a bit hard to tell. As for frequency, I do it regularly. Prevents loneliness, prevents prostate cancer, and prevents me from mistakenly thinking that a woman might be of any value to me.
/r/MGTOW31/07/20 08:21 PM
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I’ve personally never fully believed in AWALT. There are exceptions to every behavioural rule or tendency out there, and it’s preposterous to suggest that every single member of a particular population will exhibit certain behaviours. That being said, I fully believe that enough women are like that. I can guarantee that there are at least a few genuinely good women out there. The issue is that there’s no way to tell them apart from the vast majority of women that will stab you in the back withou…
/r/MGTOW31/07/20 08:07 PM
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Gender rating goes for both ways, but numerous studies have shown actually men are much much more strict when it comes to appearance. Men have significantly more testosterone than women. Testosterone is largely responsible for the sexual attraction someone feels. Thus, men find the average woman significantly more attractive than women find the average men. Men may be more strict in terms of women who are below their standards, however their standards are worlds more lenient and fair than women’…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:51 PM
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most guys are the kind that are 100% invisible to women“ -> women out of their league. Of course they won’t get noticed by a 8+/10 when they are under 8/10 themselves. You’re projecting. Most guys see the majority of women as above average in terms of appearance. A 6/10 woman is as attractive to a man as an 8/10 man is to a woman. In all fairness, they should date lower, but they are too selfish to do that so they turn down every single offer from below a 8/10. This statement doesn’t apply to mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 02:43 PM
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The mind is fantastic at remembering and mimicking responses to things. If you react calmly every time you find yourself mad about something, the mind will eventually make that calmness your default emotion for that particular thing, whenever it occurs. Looks like you’ve started on the path of rewiring your mind’s way of reacting to women. It’s a slow process, but it’s definitely something that will serve you well in life. Very nice :)
/r/MGTOW31/07/20 05:23 AM
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I find it hard to believe that the only reason women seek resources is because society tells them it's acceptable. Just like there's no patriarchy hiding in the shadows that holds monthly meetings on how to oppress women, I don't think there's some group that's out there somewhere that's managed to convince women that they need resources to such a significant extent that it overrides what women normally desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 01:10 AM
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Precisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 01:08 AM
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For, it is only through financial empowerment that women have the privilege of romantic love. Now here's the thing. Women by and large are hard-wired to want resources/status. Even if we take the aspect of society that presumably caused them to be that way out of the equation, it's not like the women that exist today will suddenly change what they're attracted to. If and only if the women who care most about personality are significantly better at having and properly raising children will caring…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 11:12 PM
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If you were a hypergamous woman who wanted to fulfill your alphafux/betabux imperative, extracting resources from orbiters while trying to get Chad to commit, do you think it is a good strategy? It seems like it would work well for betabuxxing, but falls flat on its face otherwise. Just like you said later on in your post; However, I feel that only beta doormat men would be willing to put up with all the shit tests and trials before being allowed access to the pussy. This is exactly how it goes.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 11:00 PM
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Lmao, I like the way you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 10:47 PM
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We need more heroes like her /s
/r/MGTOW30/07/20 09:06 PM
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In both cases, realistically, you’re done for in terms of sex. At least you could have relationships if you were tall and handsome, though. Women would never come even close to considering you if you were short and ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 08:14 PM
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While you make a decent point, you have to remember it’s effectively impossible to improve your height. Even those people who struggle with losing weight still theoretically could lose the weight and become significantly more attractive, even if it would take a lot of work. If you’re so short that no woman will consider you, though, it’s simply game over. It’s important not to underplay the difference between something that’s extremely difficult to change and something that is absolutely set in …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 08:09 PM
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A few of them have female friends, but I don’t think they talk to too many women aside from those few friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:24 PM
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I have no idea how women think. As a guy, though, I know plenty of guys that say sex is extremely overrated, and that they prefer the companionship they get from a relationship above all else. In all fairness, though, most of the guys I know are the kind that are 100% invisible to women. Perhaps it’s true that the kind of guy that a woman actually notices is the kind of guy who tends to only be into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:25 PM
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I feel exactly the same way about AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:53 AM
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Man, it’s really nice to see some posts like that from time to time. That may very well be the only post of it’s kind that I’ve ever seen, though I tend to avoid social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:34 AM
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Sexual monomorphism may be a factor at play in certain circumstances, but I don't think it's reasonable to just dismiss male sexlessness as being entirely (or even partially) caused by sexual monomorphism. Lots of guys are unattractive to women, ignoring matters of race. Whether it be white women, asian women, or black women, those guys will never find anyone who'll love them, and there's nothing they can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:13 AM
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I couldn’t agree more. My apologies; your comment before gave off the impression that you felt otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 12:08 AM
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I’d argue that a short and awkward incel with a terrible face, a high-pitched voice, and a very introverted/shy demeanour is always going to be invisible to women. No amount of lifting is going to change that. No amount of effort on his part is going to make any women fall for him. He’s fucked from the start, and his inability to find a life partner will be no fault of his own. Everyone can improve, whether it be their appearance or their personality, but there’s always going to be a limit somew…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 12:06 AM
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Yeah, I suppose that would be a valid solution. I’m definitely curious about whether an app like that would lead to a more relationships forming from online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:58 PM
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I can see where you’re coming from. That being said, women could be blamed just as easily by your logic for having standards that are ridiculous. Why not examine the fault in the standards of both genders, rather than only the standards of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:51 PM
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Plenty of guys know the rules of the game. That’s how they end up following TRP or MGTOW. Would you say the world would be better off if all guys were like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:46 PM
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Enforce a totalitarian state, remove 80% of the male population so the remaining 20% can have a rotating harem of women. Eh. The top 20% of guys practically already have their harems. This would just mean fewer taxpayers and fewer men to fill labour-intensive jobs that are crucial to the function of society that women tend to hate doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:43 PM
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Out of curiosity I feel inclined to ask, do you think that biology is absolutely never at play in determining when a man is left behind in the dating scene?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:39 PM
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Yep, this is the way to go. Saves us countless headaches down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:18 PM
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Unrealistic, sure, but I’d say this is genuinely one of the best suggestions on this thread so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:16 PM
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I've also thought an app like tinder but with limited matches at any given time might help. Let's say you could only have 5 matches at a time. I'm thinking that would help the issue of women getting slammed with matches/messages and guys matching/messaging anything with a vagina. This would effectively turn online dating into a way for top-percentile people to meet, while everyone else gets absolutely nothing. Any guy that isn’t in the top 5-10% in terms of appearance would probably never see a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:09 PM
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Dating is unfair for a lot of reasons; online dating and people’s behaviour both being strong factors at play. But the major stuff, and the stuff that will likely perpetuate the problem no matter how growth-oriented society becomes, all boils down to biology. Shit that can’t really be changed or worked on, and shit that isn’t going to go away for another thirty thousand years at the least — and that’s assuming it goes away at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:01 PM
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The light switch effect overrides any pleasure she got in the first place. The second she sees a better guy she’s more than capable of convincing herself that she never loved me and whatever pleasure she got was a lie. And like I said before — my main argument, which you didn’t bother to address in your rebuttal — people with high n-counts make terrible partners and are significantly more likely to cheat on their partners in a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 02:29 PM
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Absolutely. No way I’m giving half of my stuff to someone who had no part in earning or contributing to it. It’s literally the definition of theft made legal. The ultimate final straw for me, though, is no-fault divorce. I could kind of see it as being kind of reasonable to distribute assets 50/50 if a divorce occurred as a result of an obvious and significant fuck-up on my part (and if that was the only circumstance under which assets would be divided). But the fact that she could literally che…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:34 AM
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Lots of data that says 53 % of women are happier post divorce. Men were in the 30% range. Big surprise. I’m sure I’d be happier post-divorce, too, if divorce meant I’d get alimony for 20 years alongside a bunch of other shit I didn’t deserve, and would suddenly have the opportunity to take my pick out of a bunch of potential partners who I perceive to be better than the unfortunate person that I blindsided.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:08 AM
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For the type of guy a woman would monkey-branch to, he’s quite likely to have options. The “average man” wouldn’t have options, but the “average man” isn’t the man women break up with their partners to pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:04 AM
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Au contrair. Someone with basic knowledge of how pair-bonding works would be just as likely to be concerned about n-count, because a high n-count means a high chance of infidelity alongside a surplus of other undesirable qualities. Anyone, man or woman, can be concerned about n-count for perfectly justifiable reasons that are completely unrelated to self-confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:01 AM
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In a world where TRP was a very widespread ideology, perhaps encompassing upwards of 75% of men, high n-count and hypergamy would indeed be two things that could not coincide. Reality is different, though. 99% of men don’t know about what TRP preaches, and very well might not accept it even if you tried to explain it to them. To a man that doesn’t know that a woman with a high n-count is unlikely to be a good partner, she may very well seem like a perfectly fine partner. Because most men are obl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:50 AM
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Happens to the best of us lol
/r/MGTOW29/07/20 03:18 AM
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I agree with you, but I still find it hard to blame those guys. The truth is out there, but there's also a bunch of BS that denies it. If they don't specifically have a motive to want to see past it all, anyone would fall into that trap.
/r/MGTOW29/07/20 03:04 AM
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Looking at it from a logical perspective it makes sense. Someone who's desperate not to let the relationship break apart would be more inclined to change their behaviour to fit whatever their partner wants. By definition, they have less leverage. I would expect that most people would prefer to be on the more powerful end of the relationship. People tend to like security and hate having to change. Being in the more powerful position means not likely having to change much, and being more certain t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 12:10 AM
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From what I've read on the matter, it seems like both sexes are of completely equal risk of damaging their pair-bonding capabilities by sleeping around. Men, however, are able to recover from this much more easily compared to women because biology takes the possibility of male promiscuity into account. As a result of birth control being non-existent until fairly recently, though, a "fail-safe" for women didn't make much sense from an evolutionary perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 07:34 PM
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“You’ll find that by the time you’re out of high school, personality is all that people look for.” That, and the notion that there’s “someone for everyone”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 06:19 PM
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A big part of my ideology is AWALT, or “all women are like that”. I don’t buy into this statement at all — to say that every last member of any given population is 100% guaranteed to exemplify a certain quality goes directly against my more established beliefs (and actual concrete knowledge) about genetics, evolution, and the human condition. I reconcile this with the notion that EWALT — “enough women are like that” — holds true enough to justify my lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 07:13 PM
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“It was rape!”
/r/MGTOW22/07/20 04:21 PM
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The main point is to ensure a guy doesn't feel compelled to try his luck with dating. Men's rights or hobby-related subs are nice, but they don't do much in the way of encouraging caution when it comes to dating and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 05:00 PM
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I don’t think it’s really something that a person can be helped with. Acceptance is a personal journey more than anything. While I definitely agree with you that it isn’t good for men to get stuck in a loop like that, it’s not like there’s really a viable alternative to be found anywhere. I don’t think most men want to go MGTOW — not while they’re in that anger phase, anyway. But there’s a reason they put themselves through all of that inner turmoil in the first place; it’s not something they de…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:16 PM
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You know what most people do about stuff not worth the hassle? They drop it and move on. They don't keep standing around it going "see! This is the problem" and stay that way for months or years. Recovering drug addicts talk a lot about drugs. The mind doesn’t want to give up on something it’s hard-wired to value, so it’s a necessary evil that a lot of MGTOWs talk about women. Not all MGTOWs do this, of course. r/mgtow2 is more fixated on self-improvement, and I believe actually has rules agains…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:30 PM
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A young man named Madubueze Izuchuckwu has taken his own life after a certain lady accused him of sexual assault She destroyed his life and literally drove him to suicide, yet she still deserves to remain unnamed? Fucking messed up world we live in.
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 05:52 AM
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Jeez, that’s terrifying. That sort of thing is why I’m excessively cautious when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 05:17 AM
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I’d say there are many subsets of feminists within the feminist community. You have the ones that are feminists because they genuinely want equality, and just think women don’t have it yet. You have the ones that are actually egalitarians (that think “feminism” means what “egalitarianism” means) who care about men and women alike. And then you have the ones that just outright hate men, and wholeheartedly believe that women deserve more rights than them. With that said, let’s get onto the questio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:47 AM
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I think I remember hearing that it happens to both sexes, but men’s brains are wired in a way that lets them recover from it much more easily. Once it happens badly enough to a woman, though, it isn’t realistically feasible for her to overcome it (though it is technically possible). Edit: Found the article talking about it. Going off of this alone, it would appear as though it’s just as bad for both sexes. There might be evidence elsewhere that supports what I said about men recovering from it e…
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 03:24 AM
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The sad truth.
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 02:20 AM
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Any man who tried this would probably end up like that. If the police don't fuck him up, you can bet the violent mob would. But she doesn't have to worry about that because "muh vagina".
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 02:15 AM
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What happens to their brains? I'm just curious here. Severe difficulties in pair-bonding or even an outright inability to pair-bond is a pretty good example of what can happen. The mind, by default, creates feelings of attachment to the people you sleep with. When you've slept with hundreds of people, you can end up rewiring your brain in a way that makes it extremely difficult to get attached.
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 02:12 AM
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Why should the average woman with plenty of options settle for anything less than a chad in her youth and wealthy Billy beta when it comes time to settle? She doesn't. That's pretty much the basis of TRP right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:54 PM
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I guess the main thing that comes to mind is "misguided". I can't necessarily look down on them for thinking that because their perspective could be seen as somewhat reasonable if you consider the knowledge they lack on that specific topic. Their position is definitely a fair bit exaggerated, though. I don't know of any men who see women supporting feminist views as "slaveowners". Not quite sure what you mean by "wants to be served", though. Do you mean that those women see men as the ones wanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 08:16 PM
1

I personally like hydrangeas.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 05:59 PM
2

This.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 05:58 PM
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I'd say there's a massive distinction. Anti-feminism isn't being sexist against women, or sexist in favour of men. It's the recognition that women are already (beyond) equal to men, so there's no need to push for more. Furthermore, it's the recognition that gender roles have a good reason to exist because men and women are different and gender roles play to the strengths of each other. Anti-feminism is only sexist in the context of a society in which women have fewer rights than men, or are othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 05:16 PM
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Do you think anti-feminist advices can be harmful for young women? I think anti-feminist advice is a "harsh truth". It hurts to accept, but you won't do yourself any good by denying it. Feminism leads to a lot of self-destructing behaviours, and very little of it is good for women (or anyone, for that matter). Stuff like body-positivity, which often encourages obesity and discourages making positive lifestyle changes. Stuff like the male privilege myth, which makes many women think they can't su…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 04:59 PM
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This was a good question. I found it quite interesting to think about and read the responses that other people thought of.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 04:42 PM
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What do you mean by “how to smartly utilize your benefits to live a good life?” Sorry, I think I said that in a misleading way; that wasn't really what I meant. The main "challenge" wouldn't actually be how to utilize those benefits. Rather, it would come down to using knowledge of my biology and mind to avoid making decisions that would prevent me from living a good life despite those benefits. More or less like a lot of the women over on the r/RedPillWomen subreddit. These women know what they…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 04:39 PM
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Ah, it seems I misunderstood something important. I didn't realize it said, "be reborn as a woman". I was answering under the assumption that I'd be myself, except I'd suddenly have a woman's body and be attracted to men. If I had to be reborn, I wouldn't bother. Too risky. So many stillbirths and the chances are I wouldn't be born into as good a family as I have now. I believe women have it easy in life nowadays, however that won't do you any good if you don't know how to smartle utilize your b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 04:23 PM
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So if there was a magic button to be reborn as a woman, would you press it? Absolutely. Why yes and why not? Everything I have to worry about as a man, I'd practically have immunity against. No false rape claims, no fear of being discriminated against in a job interview in favour of a "diversity candidate". I could just live my life completely normally, and the world would be slightly in favour of me. What would you change? I would start streaming. It may sound weird, but I think I could have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 04:01 PM
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I think this is an excellent point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 01:07 AM
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The premise of TRP is that women are hard-wired to be hypergamous. Men, on the other hand, can supposedly go either way. If you look at your question from the perspective of someone who sees this premise as completely factual, you may find that the side backed by reason is different from what you thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 11:38 PM
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There's nothing but benefits for women; why wouldn't they want to get married? If he stays, then he stays; presumably, she would want him to stay if she was pushing him for marriage. If he leaves, he loses half of his stuff and she gets alimony for years. If she leaves, he still loses half of his stuff and she still gets alimony for years. Marriage is a promise that she can take him for all he has if/when things go downhill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 11:30 PM
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You're right, it seems I was mistaken. When I mentioned plastic surgery I was specifically thinking of breast implants, botox, and other similar procedures. My apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 08:08 PM
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In older times a heavier woman was seen as more attractive. Depending on what time period you’re talking about, being on the heavier end of the scale meant having enough wealth to support one’s family in a time where wealth was extremely scarce. It’s not that heaviness actually became attractive — it just became more desirable. In modern China they want porcelin-pale women. Asian countries like China and Japan find white skin to be very attractive. It’s a cultural preference, and one that was ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:18 PM
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It’s called “Greater male variability hypothesis”, I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:06 PM
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Mens’ attraction is more or less fixed. An attractive woman doesn’t become any less attractive if others don’t see her as attractive. Now here’s the thing about female standards: just about every one of them relates to social perception to some degree. Women are largely attracted to status and wealth. If a woman plunges herself into social media, where where people virtue signal and show off their superficial status left and right, then her perception of status is inevitably going to get fucked …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:04 PM
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Yep, that about sums it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 07:36 AM
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Lmao
/r/MGTOW19/07/20 04:12 AM
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I used to rent a small house with 3 other guys. Our living room looked almost exactly like this. Just a couch and a TV — all a guy really needs. So many good times...
/r/MGTOW19/07/20 04:06 AM
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Oh, it looks like she misspelled “I fucked 30 guys on the side and wouldn’t accept responsibility when you found out, and now I’m mad cause I didn’t get enough alimony to retire.”
/r/MGTOW19/07/20 03:37 AM
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Lmao, you're absolutely right.
/r/MGTOW18/07/20 10:33 PM
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Yep. This sort of thing is why men tend to handle breakups so much worse, and are at a significantly elevated chance of committing suicide right after the end of a relationship. Their feelings are genuine feelings of attachment to whatever pathetic extent of companionship she offered him, versus a woman’s attachment to his resources or status — stuff that’s easily replaceable.
/r/MGTOW18/07/20 03:24 PM
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I've always been fairly avoidant. Subsequently to learning about TRP's take on female nature, though, it's been exacerbated to an extreme extent. So it's better and easier to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:01 AM
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Sleeping around also impacts their ability to pair with guys they do want, though. A more precise way of putting it would be that women who sleep around can’t pair bond with anyone, but they don’t want to pair bond with 90% of guys anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 09:56 PM
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You said being basic and being feminine were different things, and I responded there’s often a relationship between the two - since “basicness” is essentially conformity. I see. Perhaps I misunderstood what “basic” means. Well I wouldn’t say I’m blunt. I try to be polite and kind to others. I am very honest though. Not in the sense of telling other people what’s wrong with them, but in the sense of being honest about myself and speaking frankly about all kinds of topics. Yeah, it doesn’t seem li…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 09:47 PM
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You'll immediately become invisible to them, and their minds will trigger instant short-term memory loss as a defence mechanism. mEn wHO aRen'T dOCtoRs doN't eXIsT
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 07:59 PM
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It's a nice idea in theory, but most of us can't really afford to tick off coworkers or management. It's fucked up that being against sexism would tick people off, but that's just how it is. I'm of the firm belief that a few of us working together won't be able to change much by ourselves. As such, I'd rather stay safe and look the other way than sacrifice my job for what's becoming more and more of a lost cause.
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 07:54 PM
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I don’t know what “man-like” mannerisms are. Fair enough. Sorry, but I don't know how to put it into words. I guess being "blunt" describes it pretty well. Keep in mind being "blunt" (masculine) is not the same as being "honest" or "straightforward" (not necessarily masculine). You asked about the relationship between femininity and conformity and I answered. I don't recall asking about the relationship between femininity and conformity. May I ask which part of what I said made it sound like I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 07:51 PM
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Yeah, I suppose you're right. That's a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 07:45 PM
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no exceptions Accidental programming pun?
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 07:37 PM
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Femininity... requires some degree of conformity to gendered social expectations... I suppose it depends on how you define femininity though? A girl who acts coldly, speaks in a vulgar manner, and has man-like mannerisms is not feminine, and is therefore unattractive in that regard to men who are attracted to feminine girls. That's about the extent of femininity that really matters as it pertains to dating and the like. Furthermore, who really cares if being feminine means conforming to social e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 07:31 PM
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Why date a woman who is already the best man in her life? Fucking brilliant way of phrasing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:14 PM
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You gotta remember, women referring to “men” are only referring to the top 20% of men — only the men that aren’t invisible to then. When she says “men won’t fall for a woman just because she’s pretty and nice and wants a relationship”, she means “chad won’t fall for a woman just because she’s pretty and nice and wants a relationship.” Most guys will easily fall for a girl who’s pretty and nice. Most guys are invisible to girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:07 PM
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It seems that men look down on femininity and dislike women acting “basic”, yet are also turned off by women with more masculine personas (even if they look feminine). Acting basic and being feminine are two completely different things. Most guys I know (myself included) find femininity very attractive. Ie: We aren’t attracted to guys, so why would we want to date someone who reminds us of one? Basic from my understanding is a term that could apply to men as well, though people don’t really use …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 04:59 PM
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Do you guys suffer from feelings of loneliness? Everyone does sooner or later. It’s a fact of life when you’re living on your own. Humans are social creatures — your brain is wired to be bothered by being alone, because a few thousand years ago being alone meant death. What can I do before this loneliness potentially consumes me? I’d recommend getting a dog if your current lifestyle is one that would be able to accommodate one. That’s probably the easiest fix. A cat will do as well, and would pr…
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 05:46 AM
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What is your perspective on the value of sex? Overrated as all hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 09:55 PM
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My point is that women suffer more in heterosexual relationships than men. (More likely to be raped, murdered, cheated on, left when ill, more unpaid labour, less leisure time, more likely to do most housework even when the breadwinner, shorter life expectancy) etc. You make a valid point. It certainly does seem like women often have the rough end of the deal when it comes to relationships. I guess things kinda suck for both sexes nowadays. That's just how it goes. But there are no really big or…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 09:14 PM
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That's a fair point. I wasn't aware people were referring to the younger age-range when I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 06:56 PM
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I have no idea whether Japanese women sleep around. What I do know, however, is that there really isn't much of a stigma around sex in Japan. Hell, even things like "love hotels" are widespread throughout the country. With that in mind, it wouldn't surprise me if they did sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 06:46 PM
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You realise there are these things called 'Prenups' right? I certainly wouldn't get married without one. Prenups unfortunately aren’t absolute. They’re meant to be, but they aren’t. If they were, then I’m sure many men would indeed be less apprehensive about marriage. Regardless, the reality is that family courts tend to favour women. And family courts will decide on whether the prenup is enforced. I mean, a man could beat me to death, unreasonable to say they 'will' but it's completely accurate…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 06:17 PM
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Become women will 'divorce rape' you because of 'hypergamy', right? lmao It’s unreasonable to say they “will”, but it’s completely accurate to say they “can”. And if they do, my life’s fucked. No relationship is worth that risk. Especially with the state of things nowadays. ‘Their behaviour' as if you can sort people into black and white 'this or that' categories. Many women do it all the time. Feminists especially. But it’s only wrong when we do it, right? I could say the same thing as men with…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 05:50 PM
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Lol literally how and where. It’s called the “women are wonderful” effect. Look it up. So despite claiming to be an ascended alpha who 'don't need no woman' you have to constantly berate, browbeat, put down, shitpost and send angry messages to women to stop yourself from trying to be with one? Sounds totally normal. You’re confusing MGTOW with TRP. I’m not claiming to be an alpha of any kind. Nobody “needs” a woman, but most (myself included) would like to have a partner. That’s not a safe or re…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:53 PM
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So why not just make a couple of posts and then 'GTOW'. Why the constant looking for women to put down...? Because men are inherently on the side of women. Everyone is. And it’s extremely difficult to just exit the game when the essence of your biology is screaming at you to try to find a nice woman to be with. It isn’t like changing your opinion or perspective toward something. If you don’t remind yourself, you’ll forget.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:36 PM
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I thought the baseline assumption is women want commitment? They do. But if commitment was a genuinely attractive prospect then women probably wouldn’t despise beta men. They want commitment, they’re attracted to men with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:26 PM
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As a MGTOW, I don’t really use the terms “stacy” and “plate”. Usually just “AWALT”. With that said, I don’t find terms like any of the above really dehumanize women to a noteworthy extent. I certainly think less of women than many guys may, but I can say with complete certainty that I still see them as people. Just... not as people that are particularly nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:12 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 02:01 AM
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That’s a pretty great way of looking at it, lmao.
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 08:55 PM
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Underrated point. 100% this.
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 05:24 PM
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This type of shit is exactly why, even if I ever turn my back on MGTOW, I would never so much as dream of pursuing a relationship until after my dog lives a full and happy life, and passes away naturally. That one in a billion chance of finding a unicorn is a pathetic prospect compared to the love and companionship offered by a dog.
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 05:23 PM
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Male here. In my circle of friends, men who are able to get together with a lot of women but choose not to are respected. They aren’t envied, though. As for men that are able to get with women and choose to get with them, they’re respected less than the guys that couldn’t get a woman no matter how hard they tried. Being able to and acting on that ability shows that someone places a significant amount of value on sex, which is pretty pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:41 AM
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I think it depends on the relationship. My ideal girlfriend would have the exact same relationship with me that I have with my best friend, with some physical and emotional intimacy thrown into the mix. If that were the case, then I think she would fill whatever position a good friend would fill. Be it a good confidant, someone who I can joke around with, or someone who shares a lot of my hobbies and interests. That’s just an ideal, though. The further from that a relationship would stray, the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:29 AM
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To some extent, definitely, but there’s a limit to how much more attractive a person can become. Because women’s standards are so high, many men may find that their maximum attractiveness is still too low to be able to attract anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 04:51 AM
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Does this seem plausible? If men were no longer bound by laws, would we see these things if they could run rampant with no legal/societal repercussions? We would see these things, sure. We’d see them more often than we do now, too. I feel like that goes without saying. That being said, the men who would indulge in this sort of behaviour would be a minority — just as they are now — the only difference is that they would be somewhat larger of a minority. Let’s forget about rape, specifically, for …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 01:06 AM
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/r/MGTOW15/07/20 12:32 AM
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Next thing would be compatibility in values or at the very least she should share my ability to "agree to disagree" and "live and let live" on sensitive matters. I think this is a really underrated point. The number of guys I know that prioritize someone who can take this approach to things is unreal. A girl who's like this is rare, though, as sad a reality to come to terms with as it may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 08:49 PM
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Loyalty is a big one. Nobody wants a partner who's going to cheat. Rationality is also pretty important. People who can't reason are a pain to be around and interact with. Needless to say, this is also true in the case of relationships. Respect is also quite crucial. Someone who sees me as a person, and will treat me as such. Shit tests/mind games are terrible, so obviously someone who doesn't pull that shit is going to be of much higher value than someone who does so routinely. Though I guess t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 08:37 PM
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What women really want is a strong, ATTRACTIVE, masculine, powerful leader. FIFY. Not everyone will ever be attractive to women. Most guys will not. Whether you work out, whether you’ve got charisma, whether you’ve got resources to spare. The only way women will genuinely like you is if you’ve got looks, and women’s criteria for men who’ve got looks involves the quintessential definition of a genetic lottery. 6 feet tall? Genetics. 6 inch d*ck? Genetics. Rigid cheek bones? Genetics. Having the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:49 PM
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That means if we assume that 100% of people who can have this much sex are going to It was meant as an example. Either way, it’s an issue that’s considerably more likely to negatively affect men than women. An additional 40% of women compared to men have access to enough sex to do some serious damage to the areas of their brains responsible for forming attachment, etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:42 PM
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But if supposedly those women are all fucking the same dudes then that's worse for women, too, I guess. I don’t think this necessarily justifies them in complaining about encountering men who are unable to form connections, though. The men who are able to are in abundance; women just aren’t interested in those specific guys for reasons usually pertaining to their appearance. Everything else you said was fairly coherent, though. You make an excellent point, and I agree with you for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 06:24 AM
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Basically everything you just went on about applies to people, going both ways. You are in no way wrong, but you're missing one detail. Yes, around 20% of men are able to effortlessly amass ridiculously-high n-counts. These men can easily get access to enough sex to seriously fuck them over in terms of the ability to form meaningful connections with people. And yes, this does make them more likely to commit infidelity, lack or quickly lose attachment to their partners, and just be terrible partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 05:19 AM
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We want real fucking deals Say what you want. That may very well be the case for you, but the stats from OP paint a vivid picture that a desire for "real fucking deals" is not the case for all women. Especially not for nearly half of high-n count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 05:02 AM
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Even so, he's done his part by helping a fellow man out in a time of need. What that older guy does with it from here is on him; he has the knowledge, it's his choice whether he follows it.
/r/MGTOW14/07/20 03:50 AM
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Typically it means a super hot guy, but it can also mean a super hot guy with an ideal personality. If he isn’t absurdly attractive to women, then he isn’t considered a chad. As for why they don’t commit, it’s because so many women are usually interested in them that they don’t see much value in a woman’s attention. Furthermore, he can only really choose one woman. With that in mind, two things are all but guaranteed. 1) Since chads can only choose one woman, but many chads will meet tens or hun…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:34 PM
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Are some of you Gen Z guys also too lazy in terms of dating? I’m a Gen Z guy. I can speak for myself and 3 of my close friends who are all of a similar age to me. I personally don’t date because I don’t think it’s a feasible outcome for me to ever meet anyone who would genuinely want to be with me without any ulterior motives. The normal MGTOW stuff. As for my friends, I suppose it’s a mixture of laziness and lack of interest. They don’t see significant merit in relationships — they’ve all had a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 04:40 PM
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Parasites aren’t known for caring much about their hosts.
/r/MGTOW13/07/20 04:08 PM
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“I was raped!” For when they meet a guy more attractive than their boyfriend and shamelessly fuck them. Except they get caught somewhere along the way and refuse to take responsibility for what was undeniably a conscious choice made by them to engage in consensual sex despite already being in a committed, monogamous relationship.
/r/MGTOW13/07/20 04:13 AM
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That thread you linked was a really good read. Thanks for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 11:42 PM
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I disagree. The love these men get is very real just not sexual. It's familial love and affection. Well on the basis that that love is real, your point is logical. I am firmly of the belief that it anything but real, but that’s on me. There’s not much of a way to argue further on this point, as love is obviously not something that can be effectively measured, proven authentic, or otherwise validated. I've already said that average women are lucky to have sex with people "out of their league" in …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 09:50 PM
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How about women who cheat on their husbands and then divorce-rape and throw false accusations at them? I don't particularly think it's reasonable to say that it's the man's fault his wife wasn't attracted enough to him to see him as a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 08:38 PM
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And we know that sexless men are miserable. Not everyone bases their self-worth on sex. And not having sex does not mean that men are automatically unhappy, or will live unfulfilling lives. Inversely, a man having sex does not mean he lives a good life, either. This is especially true in the case where the alternative to not having sex is being used for your resources. But okay, I suppose I could concede a bit if this were all there was to it. If genuine love came at the cost of sharing a man's …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 08:29 PM
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I just wanted to say this was a really interesting question compared to a lot of the rest of the stuff we see on this sub. Good job, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 05:36 PM
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Clearly every man isn't worried that getting hit by their wife would even hurt the next day. It’s not necessarily about it physically hurting for a long period of time. Getting hit is extremely painful emotionally, too, and I’d argue that pain is worse than being cheated on no matter the sex of the perpetrator/victim. Having that go on for a long period of time would be unimaginably hurtful. I agree with your point overall. I just think that small detail was overlooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:43 PM
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I’d say physical abuse implies personality issues and a lack of respect toward others that repentance and therapy could simply never fully fix. With that in mind, I’d have serious trouble maintaining any extent of romantic feelings toward any woman who would physically attack me, even if she apologized and regretted it after. Cheating, at least, could mean that she found someone else that she was extremely attracted to, and ended up making an “honest” mistake. And while certainly a terrible thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:39 PM
1

On the other, you REALLY DON'T want to show that 10yo females have the same sexual market value as 20yo males. Fucking lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:26 PM
1

The reason for the sexlessness epidemic in young men is because most young men are pathetic, feminine, moany, whining cunts with a victim mentality. I mean, yeah that’s kind of the point. All of those qualities are the opposite of what women are hard-wired to be attracted to. Just like men aren’t generally interested in relationships with women who are selfish, slutty, or overweight. It isn’t surprising that either side ends up alone at the end of the day. Just a ton of pathetic men and women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:20 PM
2

I finally went and figured out how to use this flair, and someone’s already used it to “discredit” something I said. I think I like this flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 03:59 PM
2

This is an excellent point.
/r/MGTOW12/07/20 05:21 AM
10

Whether it sounds elitist or not, he makes a damn good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 01:38 AM
1

Would society return to a traditional state? Strong traditional men with women vetting them and staying less promiscuous? If men followed TRP and women followed FDS, then society would simply collapse. Both sides would hate each other and display rampant sexism that would cripple society, and as a result there would be no compromising in any area of things. Will both genders just be in a stew of bitterness and people will segregate to either side and die alone? My guess would be a mixture of bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 10:56 PM
4

And who could forget, all women only care about a man's money?
/r/MGTOW11/07/20 08:41 PM
2

It's sad to say, but this genuinely does seem like the only outcome where the marriage ends with him on top. And you know it will end, one way or another; probably sooner, rather than later.
/r/MGTOW11/07/20 08:37 PM
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These are my thoughts exactly. There's no way I'd date a girl even if it was 100% green flags from her because there's no viable way to differentiate between a unicorn and just another sociopath who's learned to fake it. And though it's reasonable to say that there are *some* unicorns out there, the ratio of real to fake is unimaginably low so the risk simply isn't worth it.
/r/MGTOW10/07/20 06:45 PM
1

This looks really interesting. I’ll definitely give this a watch sometime in the near future.
/r/MGTOW10/07/20 03:35 PM
6

Koe no katachi (the one on the left) was an absolute masterpiece.
/r/MGTOW10/07/20 03:32 PM
1

Beautifully worded. 100% this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:23 PM
3

You’re wrong that we don’t want it to change — anyone (who’s male) with even a slight amount of self-preservation and awareness for the current state of things would have good reason to detest a law like what’s currently in place. That being said, I suppose you make a valid enough argument otherwise. As a blackpilled guy this shit isn’t worth being thrown under the bus for, especially with such a small chance that change will actually come about from it. I’ll never be interested in being with wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:12 PM
3

Your dad sounds like he was a truly wonderful person. A man among men. I’m deeply sorry for your loss. Seems like you’ve got things figured out, though. Especially moving to a different state. The future is bright, and I wish you all the best. While your dad may not be with you in person right now, he’ll live on for a long while yet in the memories you shared. Many good memories, from the sounds of it. Take care.
/r/MGTOW10/07/20 04:16 AM
0

This.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 04:00 AM
3

The way I see it, indignation is a perfectly reasonable thing to feel in today’s society. As much as it may suck, it’s kind of a necessary evil that comes alongside knowing about how half of the world will always root against you. If the outrage fades, then it’s likely that your resolve to GYOW will become more likely to fade, too. Strange as it may sound, the outrage is what prevents you from being manipulated, and from making a decision you’ll regret (like getting into an LTR). If you frequent…
/r/MGTOW04/07/20 04:19 AM
3

How quickly does your perspective change of a woman after getting to know their personality? Generally, I’d say I have a slightly good impression of most women from the start, before I’ve really talked to them or found out how they are personality wise — slightly good is like the default setting for me. If a woman is very overweight or otherwise extremely unattractive, then that impression might be neutral or slightly bad. Getting to know someone can tip the scale dramatically in most cases. An …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:19 AM
2

If they get caught, psychopaths seem unconcerned with the consequences. If apprehended or caught in a lie, committing an illegal act, horrific crime or behaving unconscionably, psychopaths don’t care about the consequences. Many psychopaths react to getting caught as the price of doing business. It’s all about the gain, taking the risk to maximize rewards. If there’s a penalty, that’s only for now, it won’t last forever, nor will any consequence deter further bad acts by the psychopath. Hmm... I…
/r/MGTOW03/07/20 03:46 PM
1

Glad to hear that! Have a good time at the park :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 02:12 AM
4

Any fragments of feelings she held for him died long before they had that conversation. If he was smart, he’d quit while he’s “ahead”, before kids and child support are thrown into the equation.
/r/MGTOW02/07/20 01:48 AM
21

The sad truth
/r/MGTOW02/07/20 01:37 AM
2

Whatever you do, avoid ever texting her or acknowledging her texts. Just like I’ve seen a few other guys say, you’d be smart to save her texts and promptly ghost her. Cut her out of your life completely — or as much as you’re able to given your circumstances. Sounds like you’re going through a really difficult time. You might eventually be in a state where you feel able to face her and properly cite the reasons for why your life is better without her in it, but for now you’ll likely get nothing …
/r/MGTOW230/06/20 09:07 PM
2

His last breath carries in a world where a woman he’s betrothed and leeched off of holds his arms. And in between he leeches off any woman’s love and nourishment he could seek. Looks like more blatant projection from the friendly neighbourhood sociopaths over at FDS.
/r/MGTOW30/06/20 04:16 PM
1

I can't tell if this is satirical or not, but I find the chess metaphor oddly amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 02:06 AM
1

That is indeed a post deserving of gold if ever I've seen one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 02:00 AM
3

The exchange rate is what we debate here endlessly. I think that's a really good take on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 01:53 AM
1

Even after all of that time since the son was born, that guy she was with probably still has another 2 years worth of child support payments to make before he’s off the hook. Serious shit.
/r/MGTOW25/06/20 07:50 PM
2

Lmao. Based!
/r/MGTOW24/06/20 04:27 PM
1

Testosterone is generally accepted as one of the primary hormones that dictates attraction and arousal to some degree. Testosterone is also men's secondary sex hormone, meaning it is present in a man's body in large amounts compared to women. The effect of this is that a perfectly average woman will be seen as more attractive to most men than a perfectly average man would be seen as by most women. Anywhere on the scale, in fact, a man of equivalent attractiveness to a woman will be seen as less …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 04:12 AM
2

I'm a guy, and I personally couldn't care less about height. That's probably one of, if not the least important factor. I guess if I had to pick something, I'd say a girl within 6 inches of my height in either direction would probably be best. Nevertheless, height wouldn't be a significant factor for me to refuse someone unless it was an extreme height difference (multiple feet, or something).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 04:03 AM
3

I misunderstood the meaning of the phrase “BanFemaleHateSubs” when I read the title, and thought it was a sub dedicated to protesting all-female subs that are dedicated to hate (like FDS). Regained and then re-lost my hope for society.
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 03:47 PM
1

I would have absolutely no quarrels about waiting as long as needed until she would be comfortable with it. Whether it’s two days, two months, or two years. The main allure of a relationship for me is not sex — not in any way, shape, or form. It would only be a problem to me (and still not necessarily a dealbreaker) if she made me wait 2-3 months for other, non-sexual forms of intimacy. The main appeal of a relationship in my eyes is to experience and express feelings of affection, as opposed to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 04:32 AM
1

This. 100% this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 03:27 AM
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They would only think that if he was visibly attractive. If he’s unattractive, or if they can’t tell, then he’s just seen as worthless.
/r/MGTOW22/06/20 10:31 PM
20

The thing is...even if he agrees to let it blow over. She will come to resent him more in the future. Precisely. Once they’ve expressed discontent even once, you know the switch has flipped and it’ll never flip back. He’d be smart if he would ignore the advice of the people telling him not to leave. When you’re in a position like that you either quit while you’re ahead or be unwillingly forced into it later at up to two to three times the cost.
/r/MGTOW22/06/20 10:23 PM
5

Not to mention a man who’s an 8 in the eyes of women is twice as rare as a woman who’s a 10 in the eyes of men. It’s not a fight you can win. The whole thing is nothing more than a sick joke that fools far too many honest men looking for worthwhile relationships.
/r/MGTOW21/06/20 05:18 AM
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The important thing to remember is that the very foundation for out biology is working against us, so frequent reminders are an absolute necessity for the majority of us. That’s how it is and, much like you said, there’s nothing wrong with it. Our brains aren’t wired to just voluntarily block out attraction to women after we figure out that it’s a long-since been a losing battle; the last thing our subconscious wants us to do is give up on reproduction. When it comes down to it, you’re pretty mu…
/r/MGTOW21/06/20 05:09 AM
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She dug her own grave. She got what she deserved. I’m happy you got custody, man. It’s all uphill from here!
/r/MGTOW21/06/20 03:16 AM
2

Solo Levelling is another really good one. I believe it’s currently only available as a webtoon, but it’s still a masterpiece as I see it.
/r/MGTOW20/06/20 02:27 PM
11

An affair is a debatable cause. I’d say it’s all but guaranteed that she has some serious mental health issues to kill her husband “over a look”. Then again, men’s lives are worthless in the eyes of most women, so it’s hard to know for sure.
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 03:13 PM
3

I get this as well. You see countless women fucking up their lives and their partners’ lives with endless selfishness and suddenly the thought of finding some kind and cute girl is neither feasible nor desirable.
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 03:01 PM
6

A post-wall woman’s guide to being alone for the rest of your life and blaming it all on “rampant male sexism and the patriarchy”.
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 02:57 PM
4

I know how you feel. Attraction to women isn't impossible to overcome, but things would sure as hell be a lot easier if that attraction wasn't there to begin with. Biology is working against us.
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 02:51 AM
2

This is a brilliantly written post! Logically consistent, excellent structure, and definitely explains a lot of what we’ve seen so far with society.
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 05:41 AM
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I think the primary issue is that they just don’t comprehend how women really are. Sure, theoretically if you found an absolutely perfect NAWALT (which you never will) then you’d stay together for the rest of your lives and would both spend negligible amounts compared to what you make. Double spending means little if you both only spend a fraction of what you make. The thing they’re misunderstanding is that finding a good woman who won’t screw things up isn’t a choice any guy has. Chances are sh…
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 03:05 AM
9

It sounds like putting a woman in a bank vault. This is actually a pretty good metaphor. You’re giving her access to everything you’ve worked so hard to obtain, and you know damn well that she’s taking all of it with her when she inevitably decides she wants to leave.
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 02:40 AM
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MGTOW isn’t being too lazy to become a man of high value. It’s about becoming a man of high value, and recognizing that pursuing women is a really shitty way to allocate that value. GYOW
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 02:37 AM
2

There’s actually some pretty nice stuff here. Masculine qualities, like feminine qualities, are neither positive nor negative in and of themselves This is genuinely probably the first time I’ve seen a resource outside of the manosphere refer to masculinity in a way that wasn’t overtly negative. It’s quite the breath of fresh air.
/r/MGTOW17/06/20 04:25 PM
1

Anything in moderation can be a forgivable flaw. For instance, a small amount of jealousy can be cute. Same goes for a bit of clinginess. Most of the non-forgivable flaws are associated with a shitty personality. Things like cynicism, sociopathic tendencies, manipulation, and nagging. That’s what I find, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 05:40 AM
1

Anytime :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 03:00 AM
2

A lot of it comes down to being in kind of an echo-chamber, rather than trying to express an emotion that we feel can't be expressed elsewhere. I come from r/MGTOW, so hearing you say divorce rape and ridiculous amounts of alimony being awarded isn't the norm was genuinely the first time I've heard that in at least the past decade. Nobody I know in person ever brings that sort of thing up, and only the supposedly-misleading facts pertaining to this topic are ever brought up on the MGTOW subreddi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:54 PM
1

I understand. I seem to have misinterpreted what you were saying before, then. Anyway, out of curiosity, how common would you say it is to find a guy who is actually incapable of properly pair-bonding? Ie: on the basis that promiscuity doesn't affect pair-bonding what percentage of men, from your viewpoint, just can't pair-bond?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:14 PM
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It appears I was mistaken to say it might not be true for men. It looks like it applies to both sexes. However, when an individual choses to engage in casual sex, breaking bond after bond with each new sexual partner, the brain forms a new synaptic map of one-night –stands. This pattern becomes the “new normal” for the individual. When and if the individual later desires to find a more permanent partner, the brain mapping will have to be overcome, making a permanent bond more difficult to achiev…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:15 PM
3

I'm not 100% sure if it's really true for men, but it is absolutely true for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 07:08 PM
3

But also the ability to pair-bonding. Promiscuous men are not able to. I've read the opposite. Men's biology accounts for them being promiscuous and allows them to pair-bond even after having meaningless flings with countless women. Women, on the other hand, aren't biologically wired to sleep around (because birth control wasn't a thing until somewhat recently). As such, a man who has been with many women can still form proper bonds to whosoever he chooses to settle down with. A woman who's been…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 07:07 PM
1

The issue is that most people don't wake up to this sort of thing. For such a radical change to occur, #metoo would've had to have happened on a scale ten thousand times bigger than what went down in reality. But you're exactly right. If women did the approaching, it would likely save both parties quite a bit of trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 09:51 PM
1

I couldn't care less about getting more sex, but I find men are significantly more trustworthy and loyal, as well as being more enjoyable to be around. With that in mind, it's not even much of a choice, really. Do I want the possibility of finding a genuine and meaningful relationship where both sides pull their weight, or do I want to be with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 09:38 PM
1

I believe I am not suited for a relationship. I feel as though I would be unable to properly contribute. I don't think many women could either, but I won't deny that I have a substantial shortcoming that is the reason behind me being single. That being said, I think a relationship where this sort of equality is expected would be one with the highest chance of succeeding for me. Knowing that my partner was there for me, and so it would only be fair for me to be there for her in the same way(s) wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 09:23 PM
1

I find men's company is of more inherent value than women's. Men seem to be much more fun to converse with, less self-motivated, and significantly more down-to-earth. On the other hand, I find that most of the value I see in being around women stems from being attracted to them, but I don't actually enjoy the company they have to offer. If I met a guy whose company was like that of a woman, I would likely grow to detest him very quickly. If I met a woman whose company was like that of a man, I'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 09:15 PM
1

I think I’d focus a lot on quality-of-life things. Like obviously intelligence and inherent athleticism is important, but I’d also wanna set them up to have a fairly convenient life. Probably things like a fairly high metabolism so that they could eat whatever they wanted to, and a healthy mix of extroversion and introversion so that they could be comfortable alone or in any social situation (assuming that’s something I could control genetically). I’d give them a height that would let them find …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 07:22 PM
2

Married men are healthier than men whose marriages ended in divorce Well that doesn’t surprise me. Of course you’re going to be healthier before she takes your house and finances and leaves you with all of her debt. Most men end up divorced because they have no choice. Either she initiates it (which happens 70% of the time), or she fucks with you so much that you’d be insane not to leave her (the rest of the time). The fact is, getting married and remaining married just isn’t a feasible outcome …
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 06:22 PM
2

Guy made the right choice. Let’s just hope he doesn’t make the mistake of going back on it.
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 05:58 PM
1

This. Definitely this. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 05:02 AM
7

Great list, although I’m not sure I understand why “redheads” are to be avoided. Can someone elaborate?
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 03:50 PM
2

Out of curiosity, what came of all of those false accusations? Did they end up taking it to court? If you had a legal job before, did that mess things up for you?
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 04:47 PM
2

Ah, my bad. Sorry about that!
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 12:12 AM
1

Hey
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 02:18 AM
1

While this is a fairly sound strategy, I’d be cautious about showing her a picture like that. If she’s the wrong type of woman — spoiler alert: every woman is the wrong type of woman — this would earn you a one-way trip to the HR department.
/r/MGTOW04/06/20 04:26 PM
3

Subtly drop hints that you’re gay, or are otherwise not sexually attracted to women. Seems like sort of a cheap trick, but it works more often than a person might expect. Especially at work, where it’s unlikely that you will have previously disclosed any information about your sexual interests to the people around you. Also makes it far less likely that she’ll try to make any false allegations against you.
/r/MGTOW04/06/20 04:24 PM
16

I doubt this would work. He’d just embrace an open marriage like a true cuck cause he thinks it’s what a “real man” would do.
/r/MGTOW03/06/20 02:46 PM
1

Glad I could help :)
/r/MGTOW03/06/20 02:39 PM
7

The things you’re feeling are normal. Being hurt over a break-up doesn’t make you any less of a man, nor does it make you any less of a MGTOW. MGTOW isn’t the rejection of all evidence that your brain has a desire for affection and/or intimacy. It’s the pragmatic recognition that pursuing either of those two things in conventional ways (ie: marriage or relationships) puts you at an extreme risk of having your life irreparably fucked up by the very women whose company you so desperately yearn for…
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 05:27 PM
1

Female Love: Does not exist FIFY
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 04:36 PM
2

She can say what she wants, but for $1500 an hour I dare say he’s entitled to some fucking “intimacy” if he wants it.
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 04:10 PM
2

Anytime, my bro
/r/MGTOW31/05/20 05:14 AM
4

It’s called “Murenase! Seton Gakuen” It’s a pretty good read, in my opinion, although it doesn’t actually centre around the sort of thing shown in this post at all. It’s just a pretty nice and light-hearted comedy.
/r/MGTOW31/05/20 05:11 AM
6

I don’t think they’re allowed phones (or any kinds of sharp objects) in the sort of hospital she belongs in.
/r/MGTOW31/05/20 04:59 AM
6

I would say it’s gotta be at least 10000:1, and probably even more than that in developing countries where appropriate gender roles still exist so women’s true nature is known about to a far-lesser degree. Though it’s a sad reality to come to terms with, MGTOW isn’t as popular as it feels like it is based on the numbers we’ve got in this sub. Inherently, people are still slaves to their biology — always have been, and always will be. At its core, the concept of AWALT is the very embodiment of th…
/r/MGTOW30/05/20 05:15 AM
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​ This sub isnt actually toxic it's just dangerous to reddit's larger subs This. MGTOW content isn't anything close to as toxic as the sorts of things posted every day on FemaleDatingStrategies, Feminism, and other similar subs. We're no worse than any other sub out there. We just happen to have the "wrong" opinions, so we face the "appropriate" consequences.
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 11:27 PM
1

Good metaphor, though I think there’s one part missing. There’s some punch waiting at the end of the race for each person who makes it to the end. That’s all you get for finishing the race you worked so hard to enter and make it through — just some water with some cheap flavouring dumped in. But to just about anyone at the end of a lengthy marathon, that sort of prize is all you’d think you need in that moment. When each contestant has reached the punch, and has taken their drink, they take a mo…
/r/MGTOW26/05/20 06:06 AM
2

I admire the amount of thought that went into this.
/r/MGTOW25/05/20 10:32 PM
9

There’s quite a few gems in the comments section for the linked post. There’s no fucking way she is actually entitled, in any way, shape, or form, to 30% of his income for 20 years because she cheated on him and ruined their relationship. Good on him for seeing a way out and taking advantage of it to the fullest extent.
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 08:38 PM
1

I respect this guy for calling her out for her bs. The unfortunate reality of it, though, is that if he goes through with this he’ll more than likely lose a massive percentage of everything he owns. Sad as it may be, the days of no-fault divorce have long since been over.
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 07:58 PM
2

My thoughts exactly. Looks like society has (hopefully) started to wake up about matters like this, but we’ve still got a long way to go before criminals like her actually face appropriate punishment for the shit that they pull.
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 07:49 PM
2

I'll believe rape claims when poor guys start getting accused. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
/r/MGTOW19/05/20 03:53 PM
3

What do you guys do about this? I saw someone else mention just trying to keep to subs where unrelated posts are removed by mods. I think that's probably about all a person can do at this point. Do you only visit reddit for this site? I myself only made this account for this particular sub. I found that while other subs are great for killing a bit of time, this one's the only sub that I feel offers anything of significant value to my life. As such, MGTOW is the only sub I can justify "killing ti…
/r/MGTOW19/05/20 12:15 AM
1

This.
/r/MGTOW18/05/20 08:33 PM
1

Ah yes, a wymyn riddled with emotional baggage, debt, psychological issues, and STIs is the ultimate prize! It's time we man up. /s
/r/MGTOW18/05/20 08:33 PM
2

This was a really good watch
/r/MGTOW18/05/20 04:30 PM
33

nothing shows a heart full of love like killing innocent human life. And doing so specifically because of gender, too. Smfh.
/r/MGTOW16/05/20 10:46 PM
4

It’s normal, yeah, but I think you sort of missed the point of what he was saying. Regardless of whether or not it’s normal, sex isn’t anything special, let alone something that you should let your happiness depend on. To me it sounds like you’ve got a great life with even greater potential, but you aren’t sure yet how to live it. Don’t worry too much about having had a bad first experience with sex. If you’re feeling down and can’t let it go, try to meet someone and have a better experience wit…
/r/MGTOW215/05/20 11:52 PM
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