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I mean "casual erotica" to be getting sexual with little other attachment. And women tend to want LTR with someone they're seriously interested in than men will. E.g. We'll tend to wait longer for compatibility to be tested first.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:05 AM
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??? Wrong comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:36 PM
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It's quite likely the case among either your SMV is much higher than theirs, or your guys tend to be heart-over-head "just go for it" types. There's exceptions to almost anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:34 AM
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The big difference is that women are way less interested in casual erotica than men, the interest in serious romance is about the same or women slightly more, and women will prod for LTR with a serious prospect often much earlier than the man is ready to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:57 AM
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Okay, I suspected that you were arguing in bad faith, that you don't actually care about evidence and just don't want to admit you're wrong about anything, and this last comment of yours proves it. This paragraph of mine alone, with its corresponding chart data, proves both my original claims correct: There's actually two points in the chart that strongly support my original claim I missed when writing my second comment: "being dominant" as colored as the absolute far end for men preferring it v…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:43 PM
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The simplest takeaway is if you generally agree with my illustration that there are easily more submissive-coded kinks in that chart that have more male interest than dominance-coded kinks that have more female interest, then the study supports my original claim. If you disagree with my opinion on almost all of the bullet points being submission-coded, or that there's more female-preferred kinks that are dom-coded, I can make a thread with those kinks asking the community how they code them. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:59 PM
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I'm not sure which part of my second post you're referring to, but I reread my first and I'm not seeing any part of my second post that contradicts anything in the first. Btw, if it wasn't clear, the bullet point illustration was to show that there are submissive kinks that more men are into than women, but barely any for women where the woman is dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:13 PM
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This is a good one. Just focusing on the colors (gender ratio, not how popular a kink is overall), notables that are more popular with men than women: Cunnilingus Enthusiastic consent Facesitting (in practice is almost always woman dom-ing) Sissification (see above) Cuckoldry (see above) SPH Hotwifing For women, the only point I'm seeing that's unambiguously coded as the woman being dominant is pegging. Yeah, most men being dominant agrees with my OP; I was attesting to the orders of magnitude d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:09 PM
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The proportion of men who strongly want their partner to be submissive is lower than that of women who strongly want their partner to be dominant, based on every study I've seen into the subject. For more clarity, there are more dominant-leaning men than submissive-leaning men, but the latter is a significant minority; where as the vast majority of women specifically prefer being the submissive partner, at least when it comes to erotic activity. {Edit} I've turned off notices for this comment ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:58 AM
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It's not gross if it's generally giving those developing nation people a better life. I know that's not always the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 05:31 PM
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How would you possibly legislate that, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:02 AM
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That whole thing was debunked which is why it's not available anymore. I'm curious about the citation for this. Thanks in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 11:44 PM
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I mean supporting Trump is worse, yet there's plenty like that. I've gotten to be less judgmental over time, or I'd think that most people were trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:10 PM
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I could make a joke, but body language meaning differs by culture, sometimes wildly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:41 PM
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I'm just finding out about the abuse allegations by Emiru about Mizkif. At skim, there are a number of YT videos already about it. If anyone has a source that provides the main points, ideally including Mizkif's response, LMK, as some of the videos are over an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:40 PM
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I think I partly misread your comment. In any case I meant to implicate that a woman being able to quickly jump into a sexual fling isn't that comparable to what men want and can do. I'm also generally disagreeing with the majority takes here that this is a big deal, as depending on the missing details, there probably wasn't an assumption of exclusivity after one date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:03 PM
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After seeing a few clips of animals reacting to someone playing music, I want to see deep studies on how different music and related aesthetics affect animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:57 PM
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How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:51 PM
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Yeah, the missing information here is important, but I would tend not to assume exclusivity after one date if no additional significant context. {Edit} It's a red flag that she initially lied about it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:50 PM
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Apples and oranges to compare like that, b/c women want less sex (much less if comparing average young adults) and have it more freely available to them. {Edit} The bigger red flag to me is that she initially lied about what happened, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:41 PM
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Put these in dating profile and SS replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:30 PM
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Could be that testosterone increases incidence of balding.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:27 PM
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Who said they're giving no effort? You're coming off like you have some bitterness toward autistics; did you get mugged by or have a bad breakup with one?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:56 AM
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You replied to the wrong person :-p
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:00 PM
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Autism's a genetic condition, so they literally can't rewire themselves, unless you're talking about something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:56 PM
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I've heard/read multiple counts that autistic women have a lot of problems with NT women, to the extent that they usually have more male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:19 AM
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What I'm most interested in ATM is if he'll take her last name. Could you imagine? XD
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:58 PM
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This one time, I read about some stereotype about bisexuals liking lemon squares.... this with me being bisexual and having bought lemon squares for the first time roughly a week prior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:57 PM
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I hope my daughter dates guys like you 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:50 PM
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Oh em jee, Taylor Swift is engaged... <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:49 PM
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Democrats at the politician level are resistant to reform the economy due to corrupt super wealthy donors. The problem's even worse on the Republican side. At the voter level, many Republicans and most (possibly vast majority) of Democrats want to reform the economy. Occupy Wall Street went about contesting the matter in an anti-intellectual, short-sighted way. We can be way more sophisticated about it this time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/25 06:28 AM
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Dems can win more with no changes on social issues by focusing on fiscal populism, but significantly remaking feminism would further help. About third party viability, by far the reason they aren't is first past the post, or simple plurality voting. I am a big proponent of changing it. Here's a great short video explaining why: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo&t=125s&pp=ygUTZmlyc3QgcGFzdCB0aGUgcG9zdNIHCQnHCQGHKiGM7w%3D%3D
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/25 06:19 AM
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In my formative years, I inferred that boys of all kinds were criticized for their behavior by peers and authority figures alike. Where is this male utopia that you speak of? ;-p I skimmed some of your post history on a whim; what interests you to regularly post on r/transpassing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 10:32 PM
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"Autists" tend to be feminine in particular ways too, like higher sensitivity, and you could argue that higher incidence of gender dysphoria and sexual flexibility is feminine. Probably more masculine overall though, yeah, and the face bit is interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:15 PM
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There's a more simple reason: as autistic people are more gender-ambiguous (there's another term for this that escapes me), autistic women relate to men more and take up more masculine interests than neurotypical women, putting them in more regular contact with men. Conversely, autistic-leaning women have much more trouble establishing friendships with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:57 PM
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61% of women said they fantasize about being forced to have sex. 31% to 57% of women report having raep fantasies. According to Joseph W Critelli et al. in the Journal of Sex Research. ^ The OP verbatim. "CNC" is literally nowhere in her post. Here's from the abstract of one her alluded-to studies, the full abstract discussing nothing about role-playing: This article is the first systematic review of the research literature on women's rape fantasies. Current research indicates that between 31% a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 02:17 AM
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I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 02:12 AM
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Btw, I think what'd be an interesting experiment for you is to go to r/dirtypenpals, sort "new," then compare the general nature of female 'f4' versus male 'm4' solicitations. Among them should be that women implicate being submissive more than men implicate being dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:56 AM
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Women don't fantasize about actual rape either, jesus christ, is that what you guys think women think about? actual rape? It's literally what OP's study asked subjects about, not "do you like your partner being dominant in the bedroom" or some sort. Are you suggesting that women broadly don't give answers that they mean? Though I do recognize that people often have erotic fantasies they wouldn't actually want to live out, or only partially, which I discussed in another comment. The percent of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:51 AM
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I was able to Google one study that you referenced, which included that women for who it is "a frequent or favorite fantasy experience" was only 9-17%. Based on what I've read and dating experience, most of that sort of ideation is either kept to fantasy alone, or would only wanted under highly specific circumstances. What's the study you had in mind finding men fantasized about it much less? That didn't show in the abstract of the aforementioned study.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:41 AM
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From a few studies I've read over time, if you place the attraction preferences on a dominant-submissive spectrum by gender; men generally somewhat lean toward dominant, while women on average significantly lean toward submissive. E.g. A significant minority of men prefer to be the submissive partner, but barely any women prefer being the dominant partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:45 AM
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OOP also asked why men don't fantasize about engaging in rape as much as women, which is not consensual. Then RPing that is CNC. OP's reply here legitimately retorts that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:37 AM
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Men and women are not the same. Most men like routine. They like stability and boredom. I'm not sure this is true, that men might just tend to seek drama in different ways. Quote from a blog post: "Yes, women pay rapt attention to books and shows and movies where the protagonists are other women embroiled in highly dramatic affairs. But the same can be said for men – our drama just changes a bit. We like books and shows and movies about highly dramatic action sequences. Women like highly dramati…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:30 AM
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I'll add that anyone who's romance advice leads with some iteration of, "just put yourself out there," should be ignored on the topic. My TLDR advice would be around making yourself more broadly attractive, and putting yourself in situations where you'll naturally encounter favorable gender ratios and the type of people you want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:04 AM
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then identifies him and goes to his workplace and complains to his supervisor. I didn't see this claimed in the video? Somewhere else?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:41 PM
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I was going to make a somewhat critical response, but I found this from your post history: Why am I [M44] more sexually attracted to Ron DeSantis (5'9") than Trump (6'3") or Biden (6'0")? Is it because I'm (5'10) taller than him so he seems effeminate but I'm shorter than Trump or Biden and feel like the bitch? Or are they just too old? If it's because DeSantis seems effeminate am I LGBTQ+ free and spiritually pure? Pretty funny, so I'll let you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:37 PM
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It's more like a small percentage of femme misandrists, and other women who disagree don't push back.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:19 PM
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She's quite pretty to me. My first guess to what's going on is that she's not "sirening" with her body language and demeanor, or at least not well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:18 PM
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Overlapping with the others, I'm curious about the background of this oddly specific post? Like a person with dominance proclivities in romance will tend to want to continue those with other partners, generally?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:23 AM
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I mean broadly across the social spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:25 PM
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As I understood it, u/drunkonramen was friendly to them, while they were unprovoked a-holes to him. And personality's at least as important to men; maybe he would've liked theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:37 AM
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I agree with u/aleknovy that men attracted to someone often won't approach, and I say this as someone on the aggressively flirtatious side.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:51 AM
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u/Flashy-Discussion-57 Mind giving some demographic data about yourself? Also for the sorts of men you're buddying up with outside of work. And how have you met most of these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:39 AM
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pics or it didn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:20 AM
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Yes they were?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:01 AM
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OP answered this a bit in a follow-up: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1hvfkuu/all_longterm_relationships_require_the_man_to_do/m5surw2/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:29 AM
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I'm suspecting that most of these guys have the lower RMV, and you tend to most associate with these type of men who like to punch up; or you're speaking to us from a femdom alternate universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:59 AM
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Half-true. With the help of modern technology, couples can be in contact frequently and intensely over a few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:57 AM
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This is a fantastic reply considering not just the face value, but that a woman authored it, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:28 PM
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OP should've elaborated that she's low SMV relative to anyone in royalty. So it's that the prince's is so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 11:18 AM
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How different are your backgrounds, and why did you fall in love with him anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 11:17 AM
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there are millions of younger men fixated on older women. It’s likely a gross side effect of fetish porn Good ole unhinged bigotry, lol. It's usually women who are attracted to older people, but when a man does it, it's because of "fetish porn." Come on, sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:19 AM
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I believe OP's implication that you're okay as long as you're not complaining about the sorts of perceived negative partner traits that you never asked that they have before courtship gets serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:08 AM
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Not OP, but an addiction like that would show evidence in a serious LTR; OP at least didn't have reason to suspect such.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:01 PM
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According to this study,their%20partner%20earning%20considerably%20less), the vast majority of both genders are okay with a partner making much more money. A moderate majority of each was okay with a partner making much less money, men slightly more than women (I suspect there's some dishonesty in the answers). I could see how these might be significant changes from decades ago. Generally agreed with your second paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:21 PM
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I'm not OP, but searching through others' post history on Reddit is routine, so don't take it seriously. Also, in the US, $175k/year would put someone over the 90th percentile: https://www.unbiased.com/discover/banking/how-much-income-puts-you-in-the-top-1-5-or-10 And that's excluding those who are unemployed, retired, or disabled.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:15 AM
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TBF, it's less manosphere-dominated than it was a couple years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:35 AM
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instead of falling for the divisive anti-white male/male propaganda from the left. You can argue this for many lay-citizens on the left, but Kamala/Walz themselves ran a very centrist platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:34 AM
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In talking about the percentage-gaps that's more common in this sort of analysis, the for-against for men in your numbers is +2% Kamala over Trump, for women +26%.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:31 AM
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They're a private public publication that needs money to exist. I turned off my ad blocker to confirm that the page didn't have any ads. No appearance of a scam. The bottom of the article claims they're non-profit. And you didn't counter my claim. That was just one of many similar articles Google showed on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:00 AM
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After Win, Trump Fans Admit “Project 2025 Is the Agenda”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:20 AM
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He's such a paragon of depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:54 AM
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TBF, she ended up with a man way too attractive for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:37 AM
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If women gave more attention to men in general, men would be more picky in general. TBF, the crap structure of certain dating aps has a lot to do with the super-low match rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:01 AM
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soft girl I had to Google this; I'm into this aesthetic, nice to know a way to look it up or discuss it, thanks! I date with a purpose As the rest of your post implicates that you're not solely looking for hookups, why's this bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:59 AM
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Almost every state in the US has had a significant demographic shift from it. Citation please. To be clear, it must cite illegal immigrants =only=.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:22 PM
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So men want to find someone to corrupt and women want to find someone to reform? I think it's more accurate for most men (I'm not monogamous, an exception) that it's more, "she'll be the whore only for me." I haven't inferred that more than a small percentage of men intentionally set to screw a woman up. Also to u/bubbly_pension4020, u/icytrapezium
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:11 PM
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So I have turned down many who probably wondered why I did. But were not aware that I could already see that they were selfish and I would not entertain that. No other problem with what you said, but want to add that you should politely tell them why you don't want to associate with them anymore. Depending on how you've turned them down, perceived hostile methods, including ghosting, will often result in them becoming slightly more misogynist, seeing you as the villain, and take it out on the ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:52 PM
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Uhh, citing "grooming" of women by men as a counter to women supporting certain male leaders as much as men only makes any sense if you meant that women are more predisposed to it than men. As you're now suggesting that men are equally groomable, you've contradicted your own argument. So you just said that in bad faith and hoped you wouldn't be pushed for a line of logic you don't actually believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:43 PM
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Part of your implication was that women are more prone to "grooming" than men; I don't disagree with this, but if anything this makes them more prone to side with people similar to themselves, like other women. Thus, the other part of your implication must be that women are impressionable in such a masochistic way as to make them too stupid to make informed decisions... that's misogyny. And we weren't arguing about the merits of pro- or anti-choice, but while on the topic, to me it's less about …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:03 PM
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You're using "shoot the messenger" logic. The leaders in developed nations are mostly men due to a combination that men are usually better leaders, men pursue leadership more often, and women support this paradigm as much as men do. Politicians in representative democracies predominantly serve the interests of their supports, and on the topic of abortion their female followers support or oppose abortion rights at about equal rates as men. If someone is groomed to follow a man's guidance, then it…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:58 PM
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Legal immigration is just about unequivocally good, considering the law's pickiness on what foreigners can obtain citizenship. Illegal immigration's effects are more ambiguous, but its effects are strongly concentrated near the US-Mexican border. It's worth noting that many Republican-leaners are making the two to be similar, like Trump's lying about certain predominantly-legal immigrants kidnapping and eating dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:50 PM
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That's overwhelmingly because most of the people who want to be politicians or religious leaders are men. They predominantly answer to their followers, among which men and women support them in similar numbers. It's no longer the case that disproportionately more men are broadly and unfairly pushing women out of leadership positions, at least not in developed nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:22 PM
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Pro-life women's explanation is typically believing that the right to life should begin at conception. Anti-abortion men's explanation is typically "well she shouldn't have spread her legs" I follow politics fairly closely and never inferred this distinction. I've cited similar studies as OP before to inform fellow liberals that making men the villain on abortion when they are pro-choice in virtually equal numbers is chasing swing-voting men into the arms of the GOP for no good reason. Don't do …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:17 PM
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It's a woman's issue in the way of who's primarily affected by it, but there has been a lot of blame-assigning by the left toward men as if men are the decidedly dominant force for abortion restrictions -- not the case based on the statistics OP cited (I've seen other studies on the topic which all come to the same conclusion that support for or against abortion by gender is overwhelmingly identical).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:14 PM
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Most politicians are men. That's probably all you're seeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:11 PM
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“men controlling women’s bodies” is just standard feminist hate speech against men, and them trying to move that needle a percentage point so you vote for Hillary or Harris or whoever they puppet up there. While I do think trying to demonize men over abortion is misguided for the reasons OOP cited, Hillary and Kamala are both better leaders than Trump, and the average liberal position on abortion is way more popular nationally than the average conservative position. The left is currently the pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:10 PM
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TBF, most guys in the incel camp have few, if any, women attracted to them. But I do agree to the extent that the concept of RMV leagues should be more taught and understood. Aside from helping people not chase people who have little chance of being into them, for instance, some beautiful and mentally healthy women I'll be less prone to anxiety around b/c I figure there's no chance they'll be romantically attracted to me no matter what I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:15 PM
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u/thisaccountaintrea1 Autistic Tyrone-in-Training lols
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:05 PM
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The girls however... Okay, so this was an experiment on empathy, and yes, their reactions were empathetic. Yay, I guess, they win on "empathy" I just imagined these girls being given a championship banner with text that goes like: large font, "Empathetic," small font, "Didn't speak against someone who gave me shitty lemonade."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:01 PM
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Has it been long enough time that you have a good feel for how it's affected your romance prospects? Do you live in California (lol)?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:51 PM
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u/lillthofbabylon What you're probably seeing is that men are much less discriminate than women who they will get sexual / casually romantic with, but women are perhaps much more prone to initiate serious romance with dark triad partners. What I've inferred is that being really attracted to someone is often enough justification to women to want an LTR with someone, while men tend to have more discretion for that step. In women's defense, though, the claim that women get way more solicitations fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:50 PM
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Narcissists also make up less than 5% of the population TBF, people who have a few narcissistic tendencies but not enough for some formal diagnosis are much higher than 5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:44 PM
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Who kills men the most? Men. Who kills women the most? Men. Women are more prone to propagate violent genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:43 PM
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How did you facilitate plastic surgery making you more attractive in a presumably masculine way?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:20 PM
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If you believe men and woman should have equal rights, choices and freedoms then you are a feminist In practice, feminism doesn't have that much of a central ideology, but I've inferred a fairly strong correlation between feminist fervency and misandry (and neuroticism). I say this as one who otherwise politically leans left.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 02:00 PM
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Happiness surveys going back over half a century suggest women were at least as happy then as now. Current international happiness surveys suggest the same. An upside to this fact for women is that "modern women" aren't as privileged as most people believe, in some sense a victim of feminism's shortfalls.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:03 AM
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A few dudes in the comments implicated that picking better photos and editing did eventually make a big difference to their OLD matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:06 AM
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Globally most people are more liberal than an average American. The US is conservative compared to the rest of the First World, but is liberal compared to most of the rest in the Second and Third World. Liberalism predominantly corresponds with prosperity, conservativism with scarcity. Quirks in the US Constitution help conservatives to more political power than they otherwise would.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:01 AM
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Considering the transactional, low-soul aspect of sex work, I'm pretty curious what improvements you saw in clients, that you implicate? And how probable do you think their benefits were because you established more emotional connection than other SWs?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:42 AM
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You could be joking, but there's a fairly strong correlation between a society's morality and how successful they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:17 AM
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IMO, the intellectual discourse here is better than the good majority of other subs. That might be more of a condemnation of most of Reddit than high marks for this sub, though. The moderation is also especially good here. + u/locomotive-man-1987
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:15 AM
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There's a high ASPD bend here, which includes a lot of hypocrisy / double-standards and low self-awareness. Also, this community's maybe the stingiest of upvotes of any of similar size I've been a part of.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:05 AM
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The community's easily more intelligent than most subreddits I've partaken in. There are many nuanced opinions given, and I occasionally see a comment about being in a job that requires high education. The community's also unfortunately also low in morality, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:37 AM
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The average poster here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:23 AM
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its fucking weird men dump life savings on people they dont know [...] did I type anything related to attaching? Your OP said nothing about money. And yes, your OP revolved around accusing many men of attaching themselves to people they don't know ("simpery"). If you're still unclear, go on Google and type, "define:attach." make up an entire reality in their head that isn't real and not "forming attachments" women get attached to fictional characters but they are quite self-aware I've seen and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:21 AM
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Take a cat nap. A study found naps to give more energy than caffeine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:06 AM
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Other factors here are: * Accrued car damage (a couple dollars if short trip). * The risk of car accident (an inverse lottery ticket). * Your time. That said, if you have the time and energy, it can be worth those things, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:05 AM
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Hello, low key sociopaths with above average intelligence. How goes PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:01 AM
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Aside from that I disagree that "online sympery" is a "massive problem," I'm inferring from this comment alone that you're probably high on the psychopathy spectrum. Psychopaths tend to form flimsy to no genuine attachments to people. Also, I've read and heard a lot about women getting attached to men who don't know them, including fictional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:00 AM
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I've known three different men who were accused, all of which ended up with the accuser admitting/being caught admitting to making it all up. If you don't mind, I'm pretty curious about the socioeconomic/background characteristics of you and them where you happened to know such a high number of men who were not only accused of rape (or a mix of sexual assault?), but where a full three of their accusers later admitted to making it up? I should also ask here how you're certain that the accusations…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:54 PM
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You should've sued her. Otherwise, sorry about that experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:44 PM
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Unless lawyer fees would've been projected to be some huge amount (even then you could shop cheaper lawyers), I would've done it anyway, because you could then cite the civil record that anyone could look up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:30 PM
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You should've sued her. Civil trials are just a matter of who the jury believes more, or evidence of which side has more weight. You also get to cite a civil trial victory to people she slandered you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:32 PM
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All people have sexual desires, even the Pope. The difference is men as opposed to women are more likely to act upon them. Men average higher libidos, particularly among teens and young adults. And men using self as a way to objectify women and perform this power play dance because of a wounded ego and unhealed trauma in regards to the opposite sex. Can you elaborate what you mean here? It’s not progress if you hop from body to body no matter what gender you are. On the one end I'll say that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:36 AM
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(Looking forward to responses!) I appreciate the open-mindedness. Here's a study concluding that women cheat a little more often than men, which I have a lot of anecdotes suggesting to me this is probably the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:16 AM
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Asian women make good wives. It's not a secret. Probably, the best wives. It still mostly depends on preferences. They tend to be the least curvy, lowest libido, and most neurotic. OTOH, I'm in an LTR with an Asian and it's the best one I've ever had XD
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:39 AM
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How long were you seriously dating before marriage? Why do you think she changed so abruptly? Why was it you who broke it off instead of her, when she was clearly checked out?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:22 AM
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It's your programming, you can't fight it. It's important to realize with these stats that they're averages, not applying to everyone of the demographic studied.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:23 AM
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I'm fascinated by this strategy, going to look into it. Thanks for the write-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:48 AM
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Negative numbers would imply the opposite is true, and a 1 presumably is there's no difference b/w the genders on the comparison at all. There's a little bit of truth, a middling number for each? Btw u/leosandlattes, how are you both "feminist" and "red pill"? And where are you on your own question?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:48 AM
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Women probably complain about men more. I just looked at 2XC, the top 12 threads that fit in my window at the time sorted by 'hot'; a whopping 9 of them were complaining about a man or men. The general male-focused subs are only anywhere near this bad when the focus of the community is mocking some type of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:04 PM
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Fictional media that's geared toward one gender typically features especially attractive romance interests relative to the gender matching the target audience. I was just arguing against the notion that men want hott men playing male protagonists generally. Men don’t seem to actually want media that shows them as they are, they want aspirational media and stories. Re-citing to add that fiction targeting women isn't any better, IME. Female protagonists are almost always more wholesome than IRL wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:27 AM
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Comedies and sitcoms is a huge amount of media. But okay, Girl Next Door (04)). Plenty of films and TV shows that don't target women as the primary audience have a far less beautiful man than the female romance interest. Maybe it's much less common in recent history? IDK. + u/Ok_Landscape_592
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:24 AM
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Russia produces more artillery shells by itself compared to the entirety of NATO combined including the US. When you add north Korean, and Chinese production, it's a losing equation for the west. I don't care how much of your GDP you're spending if your productive output is still lower. Assuming that's even true, it's because the US and NATO aren't investing that much, as I partly suggested. ​ America holding back on aid is also cope. The US's Ukraine war-spending in 2 years and a few months is …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:17 AM
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The US is spending 5-10% per year more than their standard military budget in support of Ukraine. They've held back on donating some major military toys. If they at least keep that up, and Ukraine's will to fight stays, Russia is guaranteed to lose conventional fighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:10 AM
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never work for a company that says "we're like family". Could you elaborate why this specifically is a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:47 PM
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I can't think of how a misandrist would not be a feminist, in practice. But one can be feminist without misandry, yes. I've observed feminism to be pretty decentralized, that it's not strongly defined beyond primarily being about women's concerns. Though, in my experience, someone who calls themself a feminist in recent history is usually also high on the misandrist spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:16 AM
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Lol, I would be into that if they were a bit older. I'm openly bi-leaning-straight (male).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:03 AM
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I once read of a study finding that the greatest predictor of relationship longevity among variables studies was mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:01 AM
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good looks alone will bring you more success than any other positive trait in isolation. It'll bring you way more people who want to date you if you're a woman, or man in a First World country. It's less true for men attracting women, particularly in developing nations. It becomes less true over time for older people of both genders. ​ How dating really works is people date people they're attracted to It's a major factor, possibly the highest, but other considerations are often at play, particul…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:58 AM
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The equalizer is that good looks is studied to have a flimsy correlation with happiness and relationship satisfaction. You attract a lot more incompatible prospects and jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:59 PM
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I read of similar results on a test of intellect. Broken into I believe quartiles, the lowest most overestimated what they thought they scored, then the second lowest, then the second highest got it about right, and the highest slightly underestimated themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:57 PM
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There's lots of fiction where the man's way less attractive than the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:56 PM
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I don't think where at a point anymore where anyone is denying that looks are the single most important factor. Personality's important for relationship satisfaction and longevity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:49 PM
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Oh I'm referring to full on femboys Like this? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:47 PM
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Your job is probably highly coloring your perception, as the customers who lean toward the lower socioeconomic end will tend to be more aggressive and degenerate than the norm. Also, women in those Second and Third World patriarchal societies contribute to it just as much as the men, usually. E.g. I saw a study of some group of Arab countries that women agreed that their husbands should be allowed to hit them at a slightly higher % than the men answered (it was like 90 to 88%). You could go to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:13 PM
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She always had a boyfriend doesn’t really strengthen your argument. Relationship instability tends to negatively correlate with happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:07 PM
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All of her rules go out the window if you're attractive. They will tend to break up quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:58 PM
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their children 5 times more successful. I'm pretty curious of the citation for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:23 PM
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ELI5?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:17 PM
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If those are your only major adult relationships, it's just two, and only one that had to do with intimacy issues? If you're not leaving a whole lot out, it might just be a tiny sample size than anything. How old are you? Why do you meet so few women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:38 PM
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Oh. OOP said in a follow-up, "they [his checklist] work perfectly well." And considering his points aggregate to a woman traditionally conservative and from a successful family, I deduced that OP came from similar. Someone down the page had a very picky list, albeit of very different criteria to this guy; upon someone else questioning, he said he's been told he's a 10/10 boyfriend, and a comment of his in a different thread indicated that he's rich. Though I agree with you to the extent that peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:27 PM
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I mostly agree. I don't agree with men who take the other extreme of making it out that gunning for university-age women is a good idea regardless of age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:10 PM
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I'm confused by your comment, since mine was making a criticism of hyper-pickiness. Did you reply to wrong comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:07 PM
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As someone with a fairly similar background and now a happy multi-year LTR, I'd recommend bringing up those points pretty early on, and don't end it at simply one violation. Also, having one be a friend for a long time before agreeing to an LTR isn't a bad idea either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:04 PM
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Honestly it must hang on every men's wall. Then like 90% of hetero men would never get into an LTR. I presume OP is from a well-to-do background where he has the cache to be this picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 12:25 PM
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What have you determined so far, in your analysis, on what's contributing to you repeatedly running into this issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 12:19 PM
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He meant to say, "fee male women," as in M2F trans who sell their services.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:08 AM
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Your story through your string of comments reminds me of this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rsdGjNWiIw
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:59 AM
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What do you want to change marriage laws to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:58 PM
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Speaking of women in the close friend zone, I normally engage in some combination of just conversation, hanging out with them, and casual flirting. I try to avoid enticing overt cheating or other forms of sabotaging their relationship, unless I'm under the impression their partner's abusive. ✨Ambiguously wholesome🌟
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:58 PM
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I mean out of all women after college age, basically mid-20s upward. ​ It's not like rocket science is needed to suck a dick and make a sandwich. Lol. So charming and wholesome fellow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 10:35 AM
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I think family units should be promoted and supplemented. What are your ideas for that? Why did you suggest to the other guy that marrying is a bad idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 10:02 AM
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This is why I believe we as a society should encourage this as opposed to what is being promoted now. Elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 09:52 AM
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Marriage is absolutely the route if children are planned. Society tends to benefit this. Marriage increases social status. Most women post-college won't want an LTR with a partner who doesn't want marriage. I would argue instead that prenups should be way more employed, as opposed to broad avoidance of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:54 AM
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I disagree with, "Dating for personality isn't really a thing" to the extent that it isn't a significant factor in LTRs, and that looks are an all-dominant factor in attraction for all people. Perhaps it's better to qualify that I'm primarily thinking of people firmly into adulthood; I know that looks play more significantly for teens and uni-age adults. I kind of agree with the last para of your last comment. It's a bad idea for someone to court someone without serious consideration of their pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:15 AM
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I read through almost all the replies to this. A significant factor for me in judging the morality of the situation is if, and to what extent, the beta orbiters are being lied to / tricked? And the guys themselves could be operating under misleading pretenses. Have any extra information on this? + u/TrickFox5, u/Sharp_Engineering379, u/Fantastic_Welder_348
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:27 AM
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I agree. I think the bigger issue are people who conflate sexual desire with LTR desire. So I got a vision of the future... I saw that your goth dommy mommy is trans, and takes a liking to making you wear a raver getup and tote you around on a leash. Warning you so you can prepare.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:00 AM
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I know. :-D
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:13 AM
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Hey, you can be attracted to people who do a certain aesthetic without wanting to adopt it yourself. I place a curse on you! You will fall in love with an OTT goth woman who will slowly make you her bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:11 AM
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fat chick's, Gothic chick's and hoodrats. Putting goths in the same category as the other two = 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:36 AM
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Dating for personality isn't really a thing. Everyone who shows interest in anyone is doing so because they're physically attracted to them first and foremost. My experience is that good looks attract a lot more opportunities for casual romance, and really anything where surface level relationships are concerned such as sales work, but personality and how it synergizes with that of the other is very important for LTR success.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:02 AM
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a majority of detransitioners are FTMs I'm pretty curious about a source for this, if you have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 03:40 AM
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Thanks for the share. It's interesting that the percentages are exact, and across the aggregate of numerous countries. I would guess that the lonely people are weighted toward younger men and older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 03:39 AM
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Interesting comment; I'd be curious about an expanded post about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:41 PM
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Trying to have prospective dating partners who look good "on paper" in your social circle for months before getting into an LTR is something that needs to be normalized, IMO, and this is at least part of the problem with OP. But I did get that vibe myself, that she's maybe just antisocial in general; u/dsg1695 what's your history of managing your inner circle of friends? Also, your fear of intimacy that you admit to is probably something to talk about with a counselor.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:42 AM
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He's implicating that most of either most of the FB accounts are fake, or lying in coordination with others. There's the matter if what these apparent women/accounts said if it's worth investigating at face value; if yes, I would think the investigation would look at if these alleged women have the digital trail to support that they did in fact know him, that he generally did the perceived sins they claim, and they weren't engaged in a harassment campaign involving people the guy knows. There's …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:03 PM
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Reading the freely-available portion of the article, what quite likely happened if the guy is telling the truth in a basic sense is one or a few women made some coordinated libel and harassment campaign against him (his claim includes over 200 Facebook accounts were involved). I would hope he'd deserve some sort of compensation if that's what happened, but whether he's telling the truth is a huge 'if.' I'd need to see a lot more information on the case to form a strong opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:48 PM
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This comment, along with someone else claiming citing you talking in another post of getting many Bumble matches (I verified) strongly suggests you're a broadly attractive dude. That's not bad, but you're not going to have the perspective for all those with blackpill dispositions here. his is significant because trying serial romance and experiencing rejection in almost every instance isn't without consequence. There's blown self-esteem, burning through money, and women gossiping to other women …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 04:16 AM
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Kind of piggybacking u/bottleblank's reply, it'd probably be a good idea for you to talk about what you consider to be good and bad ways for men to go about pining for a woman who rejected them, considering the numerous instances of women complaining about this. Possibly an original thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 04:07 AM
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"Me and my friends don't do this thing, so I'm going to assume no one anywhere does it." Where did you make that up from? Or do you explicitly try to date high schoolers? In answering this, I'm going to include more broad alleged actions by men that had some sort of romantic implication, including in the context of an LTR, as gossiped by women: all my life, up through 20s and 30s, partly me, mostly heard anecdotes and observations through other people, coming to know of things that shouldn't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 04:00 AM
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Some men are just fucked dude. Imagine being a 5'5 bald guy with no chin. Edit: Some of you are getting confused. I'm not a 5'5 chinless bald guy. It's just an example. 😂😂 @ this sequence
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:10 AM
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I have never understood the fear of being told no. Like.. she’s just done you a favor. You’ve now narrowed down the pool of potentials. And if she’s really shitty about it.. Many, possibly most, women will talk shit about a guy who just asked them out even if the guy did nothing wrong, particularly to other women. This damages his reputation with other potential romance prospects for him. To you and other ladies reading this, if you reject a guy who attempted to court you, but you don't think he…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:05 AM
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Men are both good and bad. But bad men are worse than bad women. I would agree with that, with the important stipulations that (1) the really bad, typically violent stuff is relatively rare; and (2) the vast majority of the really good acts by humans are also done by men, such that if you go deep enough on both ends of the spectrum of the best and worst things done by humankind, the lists will be dominated by men. Also to u/Cablepussy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:45 AM
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Yes, and why would you want to reason with or get to the same level as someone who says “all men bad” or similar nonsense? I've found it's at least sometimes the case that a person who's giving ill thought out analysis at face value doesn't mean they won't listen to reason, that they might just be impressionable to the wrong forces without questioning them enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 01:25 AM
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The "men built the world" argument is good against the case that men are broadly bad... which I've seen some people do, so u/WanabeInflatable's argument is partially wrong. Some people are literally this bigoted, and it's not necessarily all that rare. It doesn't apply to someone just not wanting to date men, mirroring men not wanting to date women for individual circumstances that don't apply to a gender's historical contribution to society. That part of OP's argument's correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 09:04 PM
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I’m in public I see tons of highly attractive men holding hands and coupled up with ONE woman and being happy. Most non-monogamy is done behind the scenes. ​ Some men regardless of their looks will have a desire for multiple women due to porn addiction or usually some underlying trauma I believe that historical records of powerful men suggest that it's more usual than not that they had some version of a harem. There's a lot of evidence that gay men are way more promiscuous than lesbians, are mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 01:24 AM
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I'd really like to see feminism move toward, among other things, working out most women's apparent aversion to men showing vulnerability. I appreciate your sympathy, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:57 AM
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Jesus 😕
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:43 AM
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but I'll fuck the next strong man I see in nail polish just to prove you wrong. There's a porn plot in here somewhere...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:54 AM
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I think you're looking too deeply into it. It's artistic expression (that's come to be associated with femininity). I'm a fan of nicely colored (and shaped) nails.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:53 AM
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Most of the best chefs in the world are men… I suspect that's predominantly due to the leadership needed as a restaurant chef, that doesn't apply to home cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:16 AM
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Men see women as objects. I've not seen evidence that this is more true for one gender or the other. This study found that people tended to see images of men as a whole and women as parts, with no difference by gender of the viewer. OTOH, being more indifferent to a person who's not doing something important for you if they're male than female is objectifying/dehumanizing to men, though I'm not sure which gender does it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 10:45 PM
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Many men who struggle with women aren't mysogonists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 10:29 PM
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Serious question: is this a joke? One could rattle off personal experiences of one experiencing vengeance from a woman via a Google search. E.g. Casually ignoring or being verbally frosty to someone in response to a perceived slight is vengeance. Though men and women go about vengeance in pretty different ways, typically.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:27 AM
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It's closest to original red pill before it got hijacked by alt-right grifters and bitter misogynists This comment inspired me to do some deep-diving into TRP's origins, and I found that at least TRP subreddit was started by a pretty manosphere right wing politician over a decade ago. Do you have some frame of reference that goes back further than that? Though aside from that, looking at the sub's sources, it doesn't seem TRP is a tightly-defined ideology generally. ​ it's about pragmatically le…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:33 AM
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TRP is a complete scam in every way It has some upside, at least more than FDS or MGTOW, as shown by having a significant following for longer. After carousing their sub a couple times, I got a sense that they're strong on men not making excuses, not expecting help, just get better; I've found over time that self-reliance is very important for men, considering how societies tend to be set up. TRP tends to take this too far, and has other toxic elements, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:31 PM
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I'm actually cooking up a lengthy post for that which I'll link to for future inquiries, but the basic gist is that long-term monetary gain is more important than short-term sexual gain, and we should reframe dating for that context. While TRP is often skeptical of marriage, the gold pill counters this by pointing out how marriage is a source of status and a cultural advantage. There's a reason that single men almost never become President (looking at you, Grover Cleveland). Therefore, the centr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:22 PM
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But after multiple conversations about when he has the kids while I'm at work he can wash some pots etc, instead of waiting for me to do them when I get home. So what went wrong? Depending on your finances at the time, did the idea of hiring a part-time maid come up? ​ I mean, there was obviously other problems but a big part was that I was physically, mentally and emotionally exhausted with no real support or breaks. aww taht sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:06 AM
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"Nice! My friend wants to show you this picture of his beautiful cock:" ​ ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:55 AM
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Lol @ "n count" getting a devoted pinned thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:49 AM
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What did the discussions over house work allocation go like?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:44 AM
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If you don't mind me asking, what city/metro was this where the the behavior in questioned was so accepted?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:51 PM
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until the red pill got stupid I've partially frowned on TRP since I read part of a PDF about their ideology, but how's it gotten worse since? My impression from what's gotten onto social media is that it's gotten at least more palatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:11 PM
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Men are more emotional, on average, in anger and erotica; women are more emotional everywhere else. What often happens, though, is women will get way more support/acceptance for those myriad of other emotions (the other way around for anger and erotica).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:05 PM
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I'm craving cheeseburgers atm; is there a sign-up for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 08:43 PM
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Lectured for grades at 21? In university?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 08:41 PM
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You forgot the 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 08:30 PM
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My girlfriend's mostly like this. DM me for rental rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:55 PM
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Believe it or not, most crossdressing MAABs (trans-identifying or otherwise) are straight or bi-leaning-straight. Source: I'm gender dysphoric (don't identify as trans), have interacted with many of these people, and read some related studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:19 PM
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POV4W: you're about to go on a first date with a dude who's previously said he has a "strong feminine side," he shows up like this: ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:58 PM
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And it turns out women have no interest in physique, all they care about is height. There are women who are into that... though not as many as TRP thinks. And my memory of Jacob is vague, but an issue with him could be that he wasn't written as dominant in personality enough? Just speculating, but it reminds me of a comment from a woman talking about romance novels that if a reader wants to avoid stories where the male romance interest isn't an alpha-hole to avoid the novels with covers where th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:56 PM
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The cultural differences within the US are way more vast than the average country. I think the US is #1 in cultural diversity to an extent that I'm not sure #2 would be close. E.g. Australia and Russia have similar geographical spreads, but their socioeconomic centers are overwhelmingly concentrated in a small area; India and China have a lot more people but are more culturally homogenous. There are stereotypes that I agree apply to Americans more than most countries, but a lot of people get it …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:44 PM
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Oh, if new country, then the body language cues might be pretty different than what you're used to. I'd personally be pretty iffy about cold approaches and really focusing on making new friends and learning the culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:25 PM
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It amused me the extent that Jacob was so often shirtless, and was never questioned about it even during circumstances it'd make no sense for someone to be topless. He was written as the "romance interest for women who like muscle bros" with the subtlety of a freight train. This is a 5 movie series with lots of wilderness scenes where one of the female main characters is in a bikini the vast majority of the time and no one ever questions it. Oh wait, I think some video games do this 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:17 PM
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"Want a side piece?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:04 PM
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I'd strongly suggest to get good at reading body language. This has worked well for me to where I feel it should be emphasized to straight men learning to better chat up women way more than it currently is. This includes during conversation, and signs that a person does or doesn't want to be cold-approached, like OP discussed. That said, it's probably better to focus more on getting into the right groups of people than cold-approaching, as studies suggest that married people were more prone to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:03 PM
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The latter is more unusual, though men tend to have fewer friends generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:39 PM
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I've experienced plenty of emotional bonding moments with women I've very recently met, deep commitment not required. On the other side, men tend to be more serious when they do commit in a less passionate but firmer foundation sense; e.g. a study found gay male LTRs break up at half the rate of gay female LTRs (despite gay men being much more promiscuous, which I find fascinating).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:14 AM
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If that's true, it apparently doesn't reach to where sex is the same bonding experience as women considering the numerous anecdotes suggesting that men in LTRs having sex outside their core partner doing less damage to their commitment compared to women. I feel like I also recall that men and women's testosterone come closer to center early in a relationship (men's drops, women's rise), but then rebound to status quo. Somewhat related: gay men tend to have way more sex and sexual partners than g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:35 AM
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My other comment that I @'d you partly addresses your sentiment here, and I'll add that I've read a study finding evidence of both monogamy and polyamory going back deep in human history. Both men and women exhibit romantic jealousy, often in strong degrees, so I figure that must have evolved from somewhere, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:55 AM
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I've found from both research and personal experience that men and women tend to get fairly different experiences out of sex. If I recall correctly, men release much less oxytocin than women do. In any case, sex for women is usually closely tied to how much they like and respect someone; where for men it's mostly tantamount to a drug hit. It makes sense to me when I've conceptualized evolutionary forces over humanity's entire history, such as male promiscuity while his lady's pregnant and while …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:42 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:04 AM
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Disagree. This is a good place to complain about gender issues from both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:53 PM
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being an autistic / introverted man hurts your dating prospects significantly more than an autistic woman. On the flipside, autistic women struggle much with the performative arts in socializing with other women. They quite typically have more male than female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:42 PM
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Maybe it's the whole talk about toxic masculinity that's been going on? [...] Women hear it from someone that men should be vulnerable, repeat it without examining if they actually want that, and when they actually experience it, they don't like it. These statements contrast a bit; clarify? Also, do you have an opinion on what could be done about dealing better with men feeling and showing vulnerable emotions, as it pertains to women as a group?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:02 AM
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The second bit of OP's post was asking, at least as I understand it, why do women who don't actually like men showing vulnerability suggest that men show it? IME there are many like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:42 AM
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I wonder what they could've possibly been fighting about. My impression was lots of shit. They're both predominantly alpha people, which I touched on as what I see as what one of their core problems. ​ Also yeah a good chunk of people actually have this personality trait where they will do the opposite of what's good for them at the time to prove both their own doubt and doubters wrong and restore faith in thier own belief system. I agree, but don't have the impression this was the case with Des…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:11 PM
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I think trad con gets parts right. I'd say its Overton window of pragmatism is about as accurate as feminism's.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:06 PM
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I think trad cons are better framed as, "this old way of doing this is better, we should force it even with significantly changing times" rather than defeatist per se.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:04 PM
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How did TRP significantly change since Covid, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:50 PM
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lasted 5 years, it ended. That is not a successful marriage You don't start the clock from marriage, you start it from the beginning of their relationship. One study found ~75% of hetero non-married couples (the vast majority of couples that early in) broke up within a year. Only a small percentage of couples ever marry at all. ​ Meline quite literally was given an ultimatum and chose the other guy. Not initially. She was already having close relations with this other guy for I believe it was a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:41 PM
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They didnt want to be wrong that open relationships are pointless or doomed to fail. They had everything going for them to be right. What's your evidence of these two statements? ​ As soon as destiny added expectation she replaced him. [...] All the emotions and time spent bonding didn't mean fuck all when she found someone prettier than him. Destiny was the one to end the marriage. Melina was pretty and high profile enough that she would've had countless beautiful men attempting to talk to her.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:03 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:12 AM
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I feel like a lot of these tests can just be actual conversations. But then you couldn't make funny TikToks out of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:08 AM
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It tracks because about 15-20% of all people are cheaters That's only what people are admitting on a survey. In my experience, it's wayyyyy higher than that, if we're talking about if someone has ever gotten sexual with someone else while they were in an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 10:04 PM
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Most "STEM dorks" are men, where looks are less important, and they're smart with a fairly high status job.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:55 PM
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Oh okay, I presumed you were doing some sort of Reddit reboot. My account was similarly created under pretty similar pretense: I was really argumentative on my last main, eventually decided to abstain from Reddit entirely for a few months, the effect that I was noticeably happier. I still burn too much time on Reddit, and social media more generally, but at least I don't have this near-perpetual drag on my happiness since taking a lighter approach. You seem you're going harder into being Princes…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 10:41 PM
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Lol, sis who are you? 2 day old account.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:54 AM
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TBF, there's little-to-no pragmatic advantage to marriage for couples who don't intend to have kids and one partner isn't significantly sacrificing for the other's career. But it's a big social status thing for most of those remaining women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:45 PM
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Why would a RP man care about marriage? A recent thread here had the vast majority of (alleged) female posters attesting that they wouldn't want an LTR with a man who never wanted to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:06 AM
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it looks cooler to your buddies if you're a bachelor and men think its emasculating to be loving and stable I haven't heard that said or implied among men-only groups (though I haven't generally hung with 'hood' or playboy-type cliques). LTRs are riskier for men, STRs for women; each particularly concerning bad relationship fallout. Since we're focusing on the former: Women are much more prone to portray their ex in a bad light with little-to-no nuance, and be vindictive generally. Women are muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:44 AM
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I think you meant this to u/apresonly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:26 AM
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a man who was either so dumb or actually DID have reasons for fearing marriage. Elaborate? Since there are good reasons for anyone not to want to marry someone. I feel that marriage is something to be pushed for either if children are planned, or if there's a plan of one partner significantly sacrificing for the other's growth. There can be certain legal benefits, depending on the circumstance. I feel a better inquisition would be not about marriage but prenups.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:00 AM
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Gosh get out of your para-social relationship with that guy, he is not your best friend that tells you everything... You don't talk badly about my Destiny! She, I mean he, is the greatest streamer ever. Hmph! ​ There is a strong correlation with him doing this and his marriage failing They've been poly their entire half-decade relationship, so no. ​ your from him cherry picked statements that he could lie, try to frame things in a certain way I've thought about that, but the extent that he's bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:57 PM
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For Melina, yes, b/c she's a woman. Not for Destiny (despite the memes). With that said, based on Destiny's recent characterizations of her, I don't think her dating prognosis is good.... she looks pretty bad, ATM, like to the point where I'd be surprised if someone with clout comparable to Destiny dates her again. {Edit} I think I misunderstood a little bit, that you meant Melina's looking for a beautiful person above all else. Maybe, we're left the speculate. What I was speaking to was who's g…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 08:10 PM
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I mostly agree with that. I know little about Melina's backstory, but Destiny says he liked her independence disposition from early on. I think he should look for a liiiiiiiiittle bit more traditionally fem, just because of the type of person he is. Or, I just had the thought, date a M2F trans... just for the lulzy reactions it'd induce from the manosphere 😂 He seems like the type who would do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 08:08 PM
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I'm in my 30s and I don't think they've changed much at all from my 20s. The comparison would be more mid-late teens, then. ​ Yes but a sufficiently attractive man could pull weight in a sense; like "I want to still fuck other women. You can do it as well but you'll lose my respect if you do" or maybe even just demand a 1-sided poly relationship. I don't believe people who are non-monogamous are immune to normal human dating behaviors and toxicity and other stuff, they like to pretend they are b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:36 PM
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The OP is more than somewhat misrepresenting what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:15 PM
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Aside from that I don't think Melina is especially pretty, Destiny always had the higher SMV due to being a moderately-famous multi-millionaire. I skimmed your post history and am surprised that you've demonstrated intellectual depth in your high variance of opinions, but give this shallow of a take here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:13 PM
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This is redpilled imo. I believe women say this when they're not 100% confident in the guy they're with, it's not about age at all. Disagree. I don't know how old you are, but recall when you were about half your age; I'm pretty certain your values and motivations have changed a lot since, yes? Including the type of romantic situations you'd prefer and how you'd manage them. I've watched most episodes of Millionaire Matchmaker, and paid particular close attention to what common threads might exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:44 PM
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Thanks for the detailed write-up. I don't historically follow Destiny, but I've particularly followed his recent material about his ex-relationship, and have spouted a much more abridged version of what you said to a handful of the surface-level takes here. Their relationship problems ran so deep that it's a point FOR open relationships that they lasted as long as they did. Studies show that more than half of LTRs end before 2 months, and something like 80-90% end before 5 years. Btw, what attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:22 PM
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You can prove Red Pill in as little as 30 minutes making a fake account as a Chad and inviting women over for sex. TBF, more beautiful people being seen as more sexually attractive isn't anything-pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:05 PM
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In watching a lot of Destiny talking about relationship issues with Melina, it being an OR had nothing to do with why they ended, there were deep-seated incompatibility and toxicity (both sides) problems going back years. I mostly agree about age gap being an issue, both with their relationship and it being a point against red pill. I'll add that big age gaps, aside from physical attraction issues it often creates, usually includes broader incompatibility issues with people usually being at diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:02 PM
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She was with him because she knew she could do anything she wanted and he wasn't going to do a thing because she was way out of his league. It wasn't an age gap issue, but a women only being with a guy(Destiny) because she knew he couldn't do better. No. Destiny's a fairly famous multi-millionaire; cite me a single example of such an adult man who struggles attracting women. Someone here alleged that he alleges to have had sex with over 200 partners, mostly women. Going to copy part of another o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:59 PM
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This is one example of a semi famous and very wealthy man who had issues in his relationship that he couldn’t resolve. This is indicative of his relationship not relationships in general. I'll add to this that I've done a deep dive into videos of him talking about the relationship and poly, and concluded that their relationship problems ran deep and it was amazing they stayed together as long as they did. It's a point that open relationships can work, if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:50 PM
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I don't even think this qualifies as redpilled because the guy she left him for is just a standard dark triad dorky dweeb looking mofo. I appreciate that you can be red pill and recognize that. I would say how Destina (lol) played out mostly works against red pill, for the reasons you've mentioned, with the partial exception that she eventually asked for some money from him after he thought she wouldn't. {Edit} There's also the age gap, which Destiny said was by far the biggest of any of his LTR…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:44 PM
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She clearly only wanted to be with him for the money. I do not have a good opinion of her after things Destiny has recently said about her, but TBF, Destiny has mostly debunked this. He spoke about that there are ways she could've clout-farmed him or his celebrity friends that he didn't, and she basically left him for a much poorer man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:32 PM
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Let this be a lesson to all of you that open marriage is a shitshow. He made his bed. OP is writing in bad faith. I've watched a few hours of Destiny speaking of his relationship and polyamory across multiple videos; if you did this, and in good faith, you would not conclude that their relationship being predominantly open (there were boundaries) had any meaningful role in their break-up. In fact, their lasting 5 years, married for I believe 2, is evidence that a predominantly open relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:29 PM
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He was basically calling monogamous couples immature for not being able to live his lifestyle lol I've watched now at least a few hours of Destiny focusing on his relationship and polyamory, and don't remember him ever saying this. I remember him saying, almost verbatim, that he's not just suggesting polyamory for everyone, but for himself (not that he's immune to hypocrisy). + u/velvetalocasia
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:23 PM
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She was 5x as attractive as he was so he had very little power in the relationship. Lol no: (1) I wouldn't consider her especially pretty; (2) the OR was Destiny/Steve's idea from the outset; (3) Destiny's the "higher value" one, considering his wealth and fame (this trumps looks for men). He's been sexual with numerous women, someone cited 200, so attracting women is clearly not an issue for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:13 PM
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I appreciate that despite you advertise yourself as 'red pill' that you're not giving the sheep pill / bad faith take on Destiny and Melina's former relationship. I did a deep dive watching hours of his videos talking about it, and came away with the idea that it's amazing they lasted as long as they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:09 PM
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When you get to the age where you can legally drink alcohol in the US is about the time where a man's looks stop being a dominant factor in his capacity to attract women, and it only becomes less of a factor over time. Red pillers broadly seem to underestimate the role of a man's finances and prestige in attracting women. Tell me a single super rich man who broadly has problems attracting women. An exercise: go to r/dirtypenpals, sort by 'new,' keyword "F4M," and notice both how often the women …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:42 AM
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Women ask for open relationship more than men. Citation? My impression was the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:29 AM
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Destiny has said he would only do an open/poly relationship, or none at all (though this disposition could change, some day).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:28 AM
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It's still generally good to tell someone like that, even if they get hostile at the outset, as it might reshape their behavior later. I feel like we need more of this group-cooperative effort. In any case, sucks about the narcissistic partner. I've had a bunch, I believe b/c my parents were in that direction, leading me to seek or be tolerant of the wrong type of people. Sweet girlfriend now, though :-D
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:35 AM
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This guy sounds broadly terrible, if you're not really misrepresenting him. I hope you told him most of this, so he at least has a data point for learning. Also, when talking about this with others, probably good to lead with calling the person a narcissist, as opposed to just "high maintenance"; mostly so red piller-types don't think that dudes being narcissistic with women is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:00 AM
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Many women are literally more physically attracted to men who have more money. Their ancestors evolved to be so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:01 AM
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I also don’t get how money makes you more attractive. You could say that about a number of typical physical attraction triggers for both genders. Financial resources has been studied to be one of the most common physical attraction points of focus for women toward men around the world, so I've found it easier to accept it, at least up to a certain point. At least with financial resources, it has evolutionary merit: the basic needs and social status it boosts was often a big deal, and sometimes n…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:06 PM
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I think, generally, cutting someone down for a trait the latter has no control over deserves an order of magnitude more judgment than something that they can control. And a few of those it's easy to lie about, very easy for someone inquiring about them to make a serious relationship decision based on false information.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:45 AM
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I mean men are much more prone to have casual relationships with partners they don't see as serious LTR potential.
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