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He has the wrong face.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/18 06:11 AM
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Wow, men shit talk women all the time for all kinds of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 11:27 AM
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Women should also assume that they will be judged negatively for sexual experience by men interested in romance and to date with that in mind. No matter how sex-positive he is. Sexual history is a delicate matter and she is allowed to keep her to herself, unless she truly feels that she can trust this man. Trust takes time to build, and a woman shouldn't volunteer this information just because... he's cute and asked?... and what kind of a man dares ask such questions in the beginning of dating a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 08:18 AM
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Women have the option to work on their looks and social skills and approach men. Naturally, her chances are bigger if she takes initiative - even just by virtue of meeting more men. She doesn't have to come off as needy or desperate, women constantly make quasi-believable excuses to meet men. However, if she chooses to sometimes approach men, she will have to be willing to face rejection. It is her business if she is willing to take the risk. In every aspect of life being assertive comes with hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 08:12 AM
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Yes, of course. IME, the best lovers are men who are "relationship" guys, looking for the one. Two reasons for this: They have a lot of real experience - sleeping with 2 new women a month is not experience, sleeping with the same woman for 2+ years is real experience. So if a woman wants to get good sex she is better off looking for someone who has had a lot of sex and is experienced with it - even if he is not the most attractive. Looks matter a lot too, so I am always hunting for the best of b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 06:46 AM
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Yes. Repeatedly, by me. I like more mannish men too, but I love "effeminate" (I don't like the word and would use refined or british-looking) men, as long as they can grow a beard and are not little bitches. (Some of the manliest looking dudes are little bitches too, for clarification.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 05:21 AM
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It surely doesn't hurt. The secret is to go for hot men that don't really know how hot they are, or don't know how much it matters, I think. And to always increase your own attractiveness and perceived value. After this is done, it's a numbers game, I reckon. But you can't win as a bottom barrel woman either, so some are fucked anyway (not in the good sense).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 11:49 AM
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"hot feminists date hot men" "hot syndicalists date hot men" "hot red khmers date hot men" "hot wiccans date hot men" WOMEN DATE THE HOTTEST MAN THEY CAN GET in other news water is still wet and the sky appears to be blue most of the time women do like sensitive men, effeminate, but handsome men, men who read and write poetry, men who play guitar, etc., as long as they are HANDSOME. Hot, effeminate british-type guys = fuck/ ugly, but masculine hairy truck driver = stay away from me creep omg SOM…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 11:42 AM
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Yes, I would be very suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 09:17 AM
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Some have been brainwashed by insecure men that it does. It doesn't. But if you believe it does, it can damage your confidence and you devalue yourself. Buying into male propaganda and trying hard to please men is self-destructive. They fall for sluts and actual known prostitutes all the time. Girls biting their nails over what men think get fucked over.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 09:09 AM
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"hot women date hot men omg how unfair"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 06:47 PM
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She is both using some men, and treating others based on potential for LTRs if she wants to eventually settle down. There are short term investments and long term investments. But ultimately, there are no guarantees and a woman is better off investing in herself first and foremost. Relying on men for your happiness is a dumb mistake. All other dealings with men are a matter of preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 03:51 PM
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Men lie like crazy when it comes to how much they get laid, lol. As if I don't know men. Accept it, sex happens when the woman decides that she is DTF. When not in a relationship, she has no reason to try to please him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 03:48 PM
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I am not talking about stats, but personal experience. Even for attractive men, getting laid requires luck, meaning, finding a woman who is DTF. Given that most people work/study/go to the gym, etc. they have 1 or two evenings per week to try their luck. Even attractive guys have ONS once, twice per month tops. Longer Term Relationships mean daily sex. If a woman isn't sexing her man (without a medical or other good reason) in a relationship, he needs to leave her, because this relationship isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 03:46 PM
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Perhaps we are talking for different things, because I also pick my boyfriends (by boyfriend I mean someone I consider for marriage) based on attraction, values and potential. All women I associate with, (after highschool) select their men based on these things (and in that order - attraction always wins, values close second). Then they strive to support these men in developing this potential and receiving increasing comittment - this is how it works for real relationships. There are also men yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 10:24 PM
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Women avoid being seen as sluts with the men they consider boyfriend material, therefore, they present themselves in the best positive light - which often includes, not getting blackout drunk and fucking whatever leftover you find. For casual sex, its much easier - you scrap the bar for the best you can pull, fuck, then contact again if fuckable for an ongoing arrangement (not LTR). I've seen ONSs turn into FWBs turn into LTRs, so things vary a lot. But when you meet a man you like both emotiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 10:05 PM
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What is it that you don't buy exactly? Sex happens when the woman feels like it - for casual, the man is more than easy. Women choose from a larger pool of men. If a man wants regular sex, he gets a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 09:58 PM
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LOL, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 09:57 PM
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Oh, and I know how "casual" sex is for men. ALL of them have better sex lives in relationships - in terms of frequency, quality and variety of the acts. Women face abundance when they choose to go the casual way, and we still use a dual strategy. RP's only mistake is that women sleep faster with the higher quality males - we often don't, because we want to stretch our time and try and work emotionally on the guy first. But the best strategy is not universal and improvisation is always needed. Av…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 04:16 PM
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It is in a woman's best interest to secure herself financially by becoming (truly) competent and competitive in a field and use men as they specificaly WISH or say that they wish to be used - i.e. vibrators and entertainers. Boyfriend material exists and when I have encountered one, I always tried to turn it into a relationship - so far with about a 50% success rate, which is not perfect, but good. However, I don't consider it my job or any other woman's job to reeducate a man. They are responsi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 04:10 PM
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Women spend vast amounts of time on improving appearance. Fat slobs will complain about not being able do date skinny models, lol OK :P . Women both have money and know how to clean a house, I have smashed dudes that are in their 30s and their houses look like a 10 years old lives there. Lotta dudes need mommies, not girlfriends, though. I have fucked men 3-4 points lower than me when drunk and horny and they genuinely try to make these ONSs into relationships, they are this delusional. Like, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 10:05 AM
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There is no issue. Some (mostly men) punch way above they league and get bitter that they get rejected. The trouble is, and I sort of agree with red/black/whatever pillers, is that men are really taught that stuff besides looks matters more for men. It doesn't. The ugly dork doesn't get the hot girl, not usually, at least. Some grooming and training does the job, as does, in some cases, lowering your standards a bit. And of course personality matters, but in the long run, not for initial attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 03:39 PM
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ALL nice guys would be massive douchebags if they had the looks to afford it. "waaaaaaah women like assholes" No, women like hot men and are willing to forgive them calling the waitress a cunt, because they are in lust. It's not smart, but natural. There are hot guys that behave, but they are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 02:43 PM
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You said that women have sex with more attractive men faster than with less attractive men. I am saying that at least somewhat intelligent women do the opposite. A woman waiting for sex a reasonable amount of time takes discipline. Keeping a man interested without fucking him, or blowing him, is hard if the man has options. However, in our culture, it is a generally sensible idea for women. Now, all of this is very basic and everybody knows it, so it doesn't matter that much. Waiting alone doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 02:40 PM
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Because she wants to see if there is something else in the relationship and because waiting gives her a better chance to be seen as higher quality or whatever. Waiting and teasing the ones you like the most is the best strategy for women, obviously some of them will move on, but overall its a good strategy. The man assumes you are disciplined and not easy, and therefore values you more. How you act around him helps him determine how you act around men, so you should act like a woman who has dirt…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 02:16 PM
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Almost all men who are not too old or young, or sick or disabled, have sexual value. They just don't know it, so women can get with much hotter guys. Pussy is not a commodity. And ofc that a commodity can be BOTH abundant and valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 02:03 PM
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They would rather share the hot woman, alright, but if it isn't explicitly obvious. They still need the illusion of exclusivity. This is why you are getting these replies that are obviously divorced from reality. No man will openly admit to rather being a cuckold than bored, except the most self-aware ones. How many self-aware men do you know? That's what I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 11:47 AM
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LOL! Yeah, and lot's of women are giving it for free, because the boy is cute and sold her some bullshit she doesn't even believe. There are lovesick women out there that buy male bullshit like its fucking black friday. Pussy IS abundant and all pussy is pussy, but some women sell it better and get money, relationships, presents, compliments, drinks, whatever they want. Other women get dick, which is still a fair price, but not the best price or the one they were hoping to get. Pussy IS abundant…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 11:42 AM
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Not really. There is value and there is marketing. Good marketing vastly improves a woman's chances. The good news for women is that there is rarely such a thing as an ugly woman - if you can get a dick hard, you can get a man hypnotized. The first one is nature, the second one marketing. Its one thing to have a pussy and another thing to sell it. Pussy is abundant and nothing special, but with good marketing it becomes a reason to go to war.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 10:52 AM
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A woman that is noncommittal and doesn't play by his rules is a hotter/better woman than he is a man. Men will also chase the better women and get infatuated with them. These women in turn lust after hotter men. Some men rationalize that she is not fucking him, because she is ... a good girl.. or something... ? But that's because she is hot/interesting/cool/whatever. Almost no woman is about not fucking, this is stupid. And almost no man is really about not committing. I've been fucking ugly dud…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 10:22 AM
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And they are amusingly incorrect. TRP advice may work to filter women who were uninterested anyway and to discourage men to invest in them, as well as encourage men to seek multiple women and thus have more and better options. These two alone guarantee an improved success . The rest is essentially not seeming desperate. A lot of the mainstream dating advice for women is based on the same things (abundance mentality, don't bend backwards for a guy, improve yourself and your options, etc.). This w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 06:13 AM
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A man has to prove himself worthy of a woman's commitment, then she may commit. It is men who want and need loyalty, thus it must be earned. If a man wants a woman, he goes the extra mile. If he doesn't, he never did and never will. Women should stop expecting relationships and attaching fake value to being in a LTR. But if a man proves himself, then a relationship is not such a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:18 AM
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OK, clarification. When it comes to attracting men, confidence is not that important - what you need is good looks, dressing well (although confidence plays a part in this too - non confident people don't dress to impress), and an open and confident body language (which is related to confidence). So in the attraction phase confidence is secondary and related to things that can be easily faked. Also note that shyness is not exactly the opposite of confidence. Feelings of worthlessness and hopeles…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 04:50 PM
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These gods are dead now, and we killed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 07:16 PM
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I was not talking about ONSs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 06:57 PM
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Yes? Of course. I won't CYV, your view is "water is wet"...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 03:00 PM
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And if she's attracted to him she's not gonna help him get laid with other women either, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 02:58 PM
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Not telling your man about infidelity is better advice than telling him. Seriously, if you are going to be moral, break up with him, but don't tell him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 09:25 AM
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People like hot people to sleep with People like nice and compatible people to form relationships with Romantic relationship = relationship + sexuality (1+2) ONS, NSA sex, etc = mostly sexual (1) Romantic relationships are great for/with reasonably attractive, mentally healthy people of good character Romantic relationships are hell with abusive, mentally unstable people, addicts, thieves, serial killers, emotionally manipulative people and people who won't shut up about their political views on…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 05:32 PM
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The thing is that men are more sweet and caring and loving to women they perceive as higher value anyway - even if they are attractive. Usually the lesser value partner tries to compensate by being extra sweet. When a man fails he rationalizes that being nice made the woman go away. Because admitting to himself that he is not sufficiently attractive hurts. Women do a lot of rationalization too. I am guilty of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:59 PM
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Of course, it was a generalisation and indeed I painted it a little black and white. But I am trying to communicate that women are more or less frustrated by similar things. Telling them to lower their physical expectations beyond a certain point is a recipe for disaster. Most people want relationships based on mutual attraction, love and trust and while this is hard to find, pursuing it is worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:49 PM
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It's not all you need, but it is a need and trying to satisfy it is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:05 PM
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I spent a decade being chubby, not even overweight, and I can tell you, as a woman, you lose 20 lbs and buy nice clothes, you get a nice haircut and all that matters much more than any exciting interests and a good and nurturing personality and how much you adore puppies and how supportive you are towards his ambition and how ready you are to satisfy his sexual appetites and make him feel like a real man and tell him he's strong and sexy and better than the rest and all the important books you'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 01:21 PM
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Men always take the hot one vs. the nice one. They take so much shit from hot bitches that I can't even. Even hot men with options do. It's not men or women, it's biology that's the shallow one. Women think with their pussies? No, we fuck with them. This is why when it comes to love and sex we base our decisions on whatever makes our pussies wet. Sorry, but I don't want to have to get very drunk every time i want to sleep with my ltr/husband. Do you want to be the husband who is not not attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 10:03 AM
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These are all nice things to practice and solid recommendations, however I am looking for ways to achieve a positive internal shift. Some women I observe just ARE feminine: they look and feel feminine whether they are dancing sensually, studying or playing poker. Because they do it with grace: this is what I am looking for.
/r/RedPillWomen30/05/17 12:42 PM
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Hating is not, but contempt can be very fun if used properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:20 PM
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Ok. But the truth was out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 10:00 PM
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No. EDIT: But my point is that men need to be lied to be happy. They don't want or accept the nature of women, whereas women do accept the nature of men and love them as such. So men need to be lied for the happiness of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 09:56 PM
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One of you lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 09:52 PM
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Yeah, but in the long term we're all dead, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 03:55 PM
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wow lut mate?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 01:53 PM
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Won't there be male sex bots?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 01:00 PM
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Yes, looks are the most important thing. Nobody wants to admit it and you make bullshit rationalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 01:21 PM
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I've fit both in different situations. Depends on whether I am romantically involved/oriented or not at the moment. Never cheated. Can't say that it can NEVER happen, but I don't find it that hard NOT to fuck people if I've promised so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 01:11 PM
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Because they don't want their men to sleep with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 04:41 PM
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Women can't fuck someone they doesn't respect. First-class bullshit here. Of course they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 04:38 PM
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I've been saying this for years. Not limited to marriage, though - alcohol is the secret to happy everything, alongside with other drugs of course. Sobriety is the secret to misery and foolish fears.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 04:32 PM
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Stronger - no. Being attracted to a man is very important to me. If he is significantly weaker than me this means he is very weak and couldn't be attractive as a man. I am not into VERY muscular men, but he has to be athletic. And a fit man is always significantly stronger than a fit woman (if she is not a pro athlete, and I am not). Intelligent - no problem, as long as we share some values and interests. Values being more important to me. It is important to me my man to fit my definition of "go…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 03:29 PM
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What? I have replied to what you have said. Homeless guys are unkempt, smelly and gross, which is not handsome. Tall and good posture and physique is handsome. The opposite is ugly. These are factors to looks, but not the only ones. Quasimodo is ugly, Prince Charming is Hot. etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 11:21 PM
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Shopping is third best after orgies and narcotics IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 11:16 PM
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Perhaps being unemployed does not really alter the perception of status. A homeless man is less attractive because he's filthy. A clean, well groomed man without abscesses that is homeless is OK. I've never seen one. As I have never seen such a homeless woman. Most I know are filthy, aged and addicted. So in my imagination a homeless man is probably not going to be good-looking. But I am still talking about looks here. And smells too. being tall and having good posture Being tall and having a go…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 10:36 PM
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Nigga she's not passed around, she's enjoying herself with rando loverboys with the consent and enjoyment of her husband. Nothing better than that for a woman, you are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 10:22 PM
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Homeless handsome men are obviously people with very poor grooming and hygiene. Try an unemployed handsome man?... Yes, hordes of girls. Most actors are very good looking. Which actor is so desired by women that there are hordes of women chasing him? Moreso than men are chasing average actresses. Looks matter the most by a great margin is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 01:27 PM
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Of course she can?... otherwise she would leave him. The question seems retarded. (not the person asking the question, just the question). She can love him even if she cheats on him, but then she has a poor character in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 12:55 PM
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How is it degrading to the woman? I sincerely see it as the most status-elevating thing when it comes to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 12:53 PM
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But men have evolved similar aesthetic features, it's just that they are different. A man is attractive if he has a strong jaw, a woman not so much. Straight men have very poor judgement of male aesthetics IME. Anyway, women are willing to compromise on looks when it comes to a committed relationship, because women derive a lot of their status from being in a relationship and/or other perks such as money. Or because of other reasons, but as a woman I am betting on the status thing. When it comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 12:36 PM
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Not BP nor RP, but I like MDMA. Women often have such fantasies, not all of them, but quite a lot. Doesn't mean that rape is justified, though. I've fantasied about murdering people, but never actually acted on them yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 07:31 PM
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I am just saying that hypothetically I would. But the thing is that I love my profession, but it is not very stable. Right now I am making quite a lot of money, but it's not guaranteed to last forever. If I had to sacrifice it to support a hot guy, no thank you. Would not like to be an accountant. So there's that. Many men make this sacrifice in order to provide for their families. They pick up a secure, draining profession. I acknowledge that. I wouldn't like to change roles because of that. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 11:02 AM
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I would be gladly busting my ass for a handsome, tall and loyal man, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 07:15 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 05:56 PM
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It is not what I meant, but since I like this interpretation better, I hereby change the meaning behind my words. Didn't see it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 05:52 PM
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Yes. I hope not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 12:35 PM
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Because it's ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 01:24 PM
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Im a slut and I like sluts. They are generally more interesting and witty women. Some dumb hoes too, but I mean generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:41 PM
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Forgot to mention, sex in love or at least in i-like-you-very-much relationship is awesome and much more rewarding than handcraft. But it requires sacrifices and actually finding the right person. When this happens I want to fuck till my vagina catches fire, then have it extinguished with saliva. Rubbing your own mousepad or casual sex is a quick release and has it's place in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:17 PM
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I think it has to do much more with dopamine than testosterone. As a woman, I masturbate twice daily. It helps manage stress at midday and go to sleep at night. The more you do it, the more you want it, and as a woman you can get yourself off like 70 times a day or more. After 5-6 times it gets unpleasant. But you can still do it. I limit myself to two times a day, but at certain periods I have done it upwards of 10 times a day. The whole process becomes physically unpleasant, but the mental rew…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:07 PM
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Well if he has a pleasant personality I don't care. Major red flags are bitching about mens rights issues and the evils of feminism, as well as female promiscuity, standards or whatever. Doesn't have to be RP to do that, I just won't go out with men like that. If he's not empathetic towards women it shows quickly. Usually they have mythologized and very complex ideas about how women "work" and ridiculous theories about how to counteract. Much like conspiracy weirdos. Not only RP men are like tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 12:52 PM
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All male staff, so I can be around men all day, every day (If I'm running the business). Otherwise, depends on the type of the venture. If it's about mining or construction, all male. If it's a brothel, female. If it's something intellectual that doesn't require certain physical characteristics, all male. Women's private lives (childrearing and so forth) require a lot, in general, and I find men to be more motivated as a group. I find that some women that want to make it in the world can be 10 t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 01:26 PM
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21yrs. Ideal - 0 (but attractive and at least 18 yrs old so - doesn't exist). Dealbreaker - Depends on age group, but generally 7+. General Rule Number of partners : (Attractiveness + Decade he's in) = 1 or less. So. He has had 3 partners and is a solid 7 and is in his 20s: 3 : (7 + 2) = 3 : 9 = 0.3, much less than 1, perfect. This is if I know. I generally don't ask and don't tell. If he has a womanizer reputation, I am not interested in a LTR with him. If he is the perpetuator of this reputati…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 12:52 PM
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What is hot about the sprinter in my example, is the amazing physique. I don't understand your point? Care to elaborate?... The complete package in my case is a hot body+ nice face+blue eyes, please+good personality, if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 09:49 PM
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Is it that prominent for women to deny attraction to attractive features in men? Because I think that it is obvious that good looking guys have vastly better options than their less attractive competition. Tall, muscular... Women don't like guys that are unnaturally muscular and that's why some may say that muscles are gross. But IRL too muscular guys are the exception. Would you rather date a sprinter or a marathon runner? I choose the sprinter. The "be a jerk" advice I cant understand: it's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 08:59 PM
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Is he handsome? If so - Yes, I think being nerdy is hot. The man has his own hobbies! Look, I'm a huge nerd too! We can talk about nerdy stuff after we have hawt sex. Is he ugly? If so - No! I don't like him, he is weird and I don't share his interests. We have nothing to talk about! See? There is what is said and done, and also there is subtext.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 06:21 PM
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I'm a woman. "You are so innocent..." is def a mild flirting attempt in this case. If I was in such a situation, and the man in question was unnattractive, I wouldn't be surprised that he is a virgin. I wouldn't make any comment, not a negative, nor a positive one (and I consider innocence a positive way to frame it, and undesirability a negative way, for an example). Because I wouldn't want to enter any kind of sexual conversation, even a playful and joking one, with a male I have no interest a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 06:04 PM
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Nope. A woman won't love someone who she doesn't respect. If she even thinks of lying to you, you're a chump to her. Completely untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:17 PM
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Pretending to be someone you're not is lying. Yes, and it can't be maintained in the long term. But, as I said: It is not a fake personality, it is just a different aspect of the woman's personality, so it doesn't really require her to fake it. Also, A woman won't truly love someone who she must lie to. Are you a woman? Because this is bollocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 06:12 PM
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Lying is almost always unnecessary. Women employ different strategies when it comes to ONS and LTRs. If she is looking for a LTR, she will try to present herself as girlfriend-material and try to get him invested before having sex, while making an emotional and time investment herself and presenting her best personal qualities. He is likely to never ask for her number if she pulls that, and if he does, she might not agree to reply. If he insists, then she will say something vague, like "not a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 10:35 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 09:47 PM
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Well, one and three are necessary, but 2 is not: I think you are overestimating the difficulty of keeping such things secret. A combination of the three is not rare at all, I think. I think it is the primary strategy among young women nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 05:50 PM
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Why not fuck while she wants, then hide & lie? Seems like the smartest strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 01:44 PM
3

Okay, do you consider a woman with a high sex drive, who choses to stay celibate (because...?) to be more intelligent than a woman of similar sex drive, who fucks around?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 12:59 PM
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Do you consider being promiscuous to be stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 12:26 PM
2

How about if Rose was 40lb overweight and had crooked teeth and messy hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 09:59 PM
1

Physically attracted is what I meant. "Attracted to her as a person" is a different topic. I'm attracted to my friends as persons - both male and female. I'm attracted physically, and must be, to all of my sexual partners - both casual and ltr - only male. Is what I am saying. A must for all women, and men, otherwise leads to a dead bedroom. Not saying it doesn't happen, I'm saying it's not the primary strategy. Not only it isn't the primary strategy, but it's also a huge mistake, because intima…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 09:47 PM
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Alex is a broke DJ, tall, dark, and handsome type with a six pack. He splits a party house with his 4 bros and most of his cash goes to partying. I think that Alex is likely to be single, although I'm picturing two men in completely different age groups - Alex being early 20s, Bob being late 30s. I'd say that Alex is too likely to have a LTR at some point, and Alex and Bob's girlfriends/wives will be of different backgrounds, which is more important. Maybe you are assuming that having a party li…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 04:52 PM
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I don't know, never had sex without being attracted, seems wrong. Have you? Would you do it regularly? I get emotional support from friends and family - wouldn't prostitute myself to get it from a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 10:32 AM
1

Yeah, but that sounds awful in the long term. Also, what are the other benefits?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 07:21 AM
5

/s?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:29 PM
2

She should have ONS or FWBs or whatever she needs to satisfy her libido, while being discreet and careful. If she finds a good relationship prospect, she should switch strategies and pull a good girl act. If the prospect insists on knowing her number, she should lie shamelessly. But if she pulls the act well, it won't be necessary, because he won't ask. That is, of course, if she wants a relationship sometime in the future. This is the most intelligent course of action.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:23 PM
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I don't think you know how the attractiveness scale, or scoring in general, works. Also, I think you are heavily exaggerating her lack of attractiveness or the attractiveness of the men willing to date her. I have never once seen anything like that. I have once or twice seen ugly men with good-looking partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 02:05 PM
2

What? My cousin has epilepsy, I know what it is. Do you seriously think that it is a great flaw? I know that men are not attracted to unattractive women, yes. Because that's the definition of an unattractive woman - a woman that doesn't attract men (or lesbians, if she's homo). If these men are attracted to her, then she has attractive qualities or does some tricks. A 1/10 woman can't get a man's dick hard, let alone have multiple. 5-7/10boys pursuing her. Most likely she was a 3-4 with qualitie…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 01:42 PM
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Of course, true. Women also like lumberjack men if they are good-looking, goth men if they're good looking, and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 10:44 AM
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I told you, I have no idea what her game is. Either this, or she is more attractive than you give her credit for. Fat, but with a feminine face, big boobs, good skin? Maybe your problem is that you are bitter and angry, and consider a neurological disorder like epilepsy to be some kind of a fatal flaw? I would never consider epilepsy in a partner as a flaw, It has nothing to do with attractiveness, nor does it affect life that much, nor does the person have any fault for being epileptic. What th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:49 AM
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Where? In your particular high school? Perhaps, I don't know. But I'm willing to bet any amount of money that there were boys interested in you who you rejected and/or that you were still not willing to take a proactive role. Everywhere. I get it. You're angry at all men, because attractive men didn't ask you out when you refused to take care of your body and unattractive men are not men. Why are you even telling me this? Just FYI - that's what I expected to hear, that is what's TYPICAL. Wrong. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:41 AM
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Nope. Not moving to Russia. But Russian women, as well as Polish and Ukranian women, are in my experience rather assertive. They don't waste time and are leading a partisan war for men. For attractive men, that is. If your ugly and beyond improvement, I can't do anything to you. Let me tell you a story: when I was in puberty and fat - not obese, not even overweight, just on the higher end of the BMI scale, and generally unattractive due to acne and what not, I dealt with so much shit I don't wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:27 AM
2

What country is this? I'm moving there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:03 AM
3

Women do like metrosexual men, don't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 08:53 AM
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Yes. Very handsome guys are either dicks or in ltrs. Sex and conversations are unpleasant with egomaniacs. They don't eat pussy or make friends with Ms. Clit. There are free, very good looking guys, who are sweethearts and are interested in me.it's the one in a lifetime kind. I don't expect to meet them in bars, I don't want them to see me drunk (in the beginning) and I'd pursue them for a ltr if I thought it's possible. But many women in my looks league share similar feelings. It's one thing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 08:44 AM
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They do. A fat ugly epileptic girl has fit, good looking boyfriends - not one, but many, and you say they approached her? Either you're lying or she's doing black magic. 4/10 and 5/10 girls dating, and not just casually, 8/10 and 9/10 boys and that just happens? Wrong. Ugly girls do struggle in general. I am single because of choice, but I have standards. I was not comparing women to men, but I was saying that women have lower standards for ONS than they do for ltrs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 07:25 AM
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Yes, shouldn't be disclosed, although I too feel that I'm complimenting a guy when I want him for a ltr. I'm not saying such things out loud, but in the beginning I was inclined to. An ex of mine told me "I really wanted to cheat on you, but didn't, this is how much I love you." Didn't register as a compliment either. So both genders mix things up, some things are better left unsaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 12:45 AM
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Yes. How would you advise me to change? Men much above my attractiveness level are often assholes due to higher tolerance to their bullshit and it's a turnoff. Those who are not are in relationships. Men of similar or lower attractiveness are polite, would eat me out for 20 minutes with enthusiasm - and I don't come without that, I just can't, are altruistic lovers and act decent in general. Better experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 12:40 AM
5

This is true and I thought sort of common knowledge , women apply different strategies for different purposes. Radically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 12:25 AM
4

Any idea what "more" and other stuff consists of and do women experience sexual attraction towards those things? See, the "more" stuff consists of things that have no relation to sexual attraction, and can't make up for it, they are additional requirements for a relationship. That's why it's called "the whole package" and not "a different package". In a room full of college aged men, 80% are bangable, while 10% are real ltr prospects, because of personalities and whatnot. Rough estimates. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 12:18 AM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 12:00 AM
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I don't buy into alphas and betas, nor bad boys and nice guys. Just attractive and unattractive men. Was your roommates boyfriend attractive? Maybe he wasn't the type to frequent bars, but he was good looking regardless (of equal attractiveness to her, I mean) and she was sufficiently attracted to him to have frequent sex with him, which is why she was his girlfriend? Maybe? Also did this guy turn to relationships as a last chance to have sex, after failing to obtain it without obligations? Was …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 11:26 PM
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Not god-tier, but attractive. Very feminine body and face, not fat and with great hair. But I'm not in America, so few women are fat, and there are truly god-tier women. Men too, but they groom themselves less. Have fucked one fugly man, the rest were OK - just some of them lower than I'd consider for a LTR, none of them that much higher that i'd consider out of reach for a LTR. Say I am a 7/10, 8/10 if I put excessive effort in grooming, but that's only when there's an official occasion. 6/10 i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 11:15 PM
2

Are you really suggesting that a large number of women (and men) are not attracted to their partners? "It is not men who give women tingles, it is nature that gives them to her, and then she seeks a great man to scratch the itch - if she can't find a great man... the average joe/fugly ben takes her home, they fuck, ". You forget about the shots of vodka :). You forget about the order of preference. Also I specifically mentioned that it's one think to have sex with a man once and to have sex with…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 10:15 PM
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what do you think about the advice that a guy who has trouble getting laid or getting casual sex should, instead, try to get a girlfriend? I have never heard that advice and I would advice anybody to get into a relationship if he only wants sex. It is unfair to the other party and will lead to unhappiness. I will suggest that he improves his appearance, get fit and groom himself more. If his appearance is beyond improvement, a LTR is also out of reach and the only option is a prostitute. Also, L…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 09:22 PM
2

I personally don't view males' aversion to "sluts" as a result of feelings of inadequacy due to her comparing him to others. Well that might be a factor, but I have been left with the impression that it's something visceral, it's just gross to men, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:52 PM
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It makes sense, but it my demographic the picture is a little bit different. But that way, I understand. Granted, with more options, women are pickier.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:40 PM
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My question doesn't address the problem men have with former promiscuity. It questions RP's statement that women have a higher standard for casual sex than for LTRs, while with men it's the opposite. Everyone has higher standards for LTRs, at least if they have some options. I don't care about men's reasons to not want promiscuous women, it's a fact and lying is the easy solution. I don't even know why it's debated. It's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:38 PM
1

Such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:27 PM
2

Only preconditions 1 and 4 are necessary. Of course she'll pick the most attractive willing option. But the most attractive men are generally occupied by the most attractive women. Contrary to what TRP dictates, most women don't share.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:12 PM
1

I would not have sex if he acts like an asshole to me personally or if I think that he will certainly murder me if I am alone with him. Why would I care for his political views when it comes to casual sex, is his penis shaped like a swastika or something? What does being a nazi have to do with sex? Does he shout "Sieg Heil" when coming? This will put me off. Food for thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:05 PM
2

With an absolutely gorgeous nazi, you mean? I think yes. Would you not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:44 PM
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I'm surprised that this is your experience, but I have no other argument except my personal experience. Other's input might be useful. EDIT: Once again, sometimes a woman has sex in attempt to get a relationship, but is unsuccessful. These cases count as casual sex, but her intentions were different: she doesn't view the partner as an ONS, but rather as a failed LTR attempt. The result is the same, her motivations are different. But it is him who rejected her for a LTR, not the otherway around, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:36 PM
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Will try and report.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:33 PM
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No, I am expressing the opinion that the standard for attractiveness for casual sex is lower. For the following reasons: The man she has sex with ONCE can be uglier than the man she has sex with ALL THE TIME. During casual sex she is likely to be drunk or at least tipsy, but during a LTR she can't be drunk all the time, obviously. A casual sex partner doesn't close all your options, he doesn't demand faithfulness. A LTR partner does limit all your other options. A new man is more attractive if o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:23 PM
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I'm refining your view by pointing out that there are women who rarely or never practice casual sex who indeed are more picky about ONS/casual. In this case, she is not interested in casual sex, she is interested in a LTR with the said man, but she couldn't get one. Isn't that the case or am I missing something. Otherwise, there is this man that is better than her other prospects, she sleeps with him and disqualifies him as a boyfriend, because... why? My point is that she doesn't view this as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:01 PM
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"Most women have lower standards for ONS than they have for boyfriends?" This is my view, and the only thing I am debating. I agree that women have more options for ONS, but the disparity is not that great as you make it out to be, at least not in my urban setting and age group. On the other hand, I do know that some women have a very low opinion of men in general. In that case, women might be "lowering their standards" to get a ONS, but "lowering her standards" means that she thinks poorly of 8…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:55 PM
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My view is that (almost) every woman that practices casual sex has lower standards for casual sex than for LTRs, how do you change my view with your post? I am obviously not talking about women not interested in casual, so their preferences are not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:46 PM
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Well, the standards that get lowered for a one night stand aren't standards of attractiveness, they are moral and emotional standards. I was specifically referring to standards of attractiveness in my post, mentioning that the standards for personality are lowered even more, because they don't matter that much, but that's not the point. My view is that the same woman, if she's into ONS, has always lower standards for attractiveness for casual sex than for LTRs. For example, lets say there is thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:42 PM
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Send pics and I'll give an opinion. She dated fit, normal-looking men, meaning they were attracted to her. I know a couple of girls who are fat, ugly and slutty that always end up with very attractive men, shower in male attention and I have no idea how they do it. They have some kind of a strategy or game to which I am oblivious. I have some idea, but don't know their whole game. Most women I know, me including, struggle to find equal success with men. Some just have the right approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:15 PM
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Not any old dick. Lower standards, not no standards. But yes, depending on how horny and drunk, the standards may be low as hell. I can't speak for all women - no woman can. But judging from the way I experience desire, I would go home with a man I perceive as significantly less attractive than me and my previous LTR partners. When it comes to LTRs I aim for guys that are of similar attractiveness, or a little bit higher - a little bit. With the top guys I stand no chance, but I can get a good-l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:08 PM
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Yes. If you don't have the desire to be in a committed relationship with a woman, you can still find other ways to satisfy these sexual and non-sexual needs. The thing is, people enter relationships with someone who they are sexually attracted to and someone who can be their good friend AT THE SAME TIME. Get it, they want the full package from a single person, whom they make their life partner to fight and enjoy life together. They offer each other partnership, help, companionship and sexual sat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 01:38 PM
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Well. Attractiveness. The ability to attract me. It is different every time. Sometimes it's the eyes, which are so blue and kind. Sometimes are the gestures, which are so sweet and gentle. Sometimes it's the way they carry themselves. And all the times it's combined with the fact that they're tall and handsome (sorry if that's being shallow, but nature you know). But many boys are tall and handsome - much more than the 20% announced by the red pill. Young men are mostly attractive. That special …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 09:58 PM
1

Yes (and I have) but being jobless often is a symptom of traits I dislike. Being lazy, ambitionless and unwilling to contribute to the relationship. Some people who are permanently unemployed have personality issues - somehow every boss is an ass, every ex is a bitch, basically everything in their life is against them and they never seek the problem in themselves. I know such people and I would never pursue a relationship with such a man. For the record, there are women like this and I wouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 10:32 AM
1

I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 06:22 PM
1

Thank you!
/r/askTRP17/07/15 12:55 PM
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Ok. Thank you for the answer. A follow up question: how does hypergamy differ from an innate desire to sleep with a variety of men that are attractive? I understand the concept of afbb as a (quite sociopathic, but) effective way to ensure both nice genes and nice jeans for your offspring. But I don't understand the concept of being attracted only to the top of the top and not being attracted to the rest (as in, not attracted at all). And another: does the TRP find that a woman being attracted to…
/r/askTRP16/07/15 11:25 PM
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She doesn't. She knows her man is better by her standards. But the new one is new. He's another, after she has spent some time being with her man only. And he's still attractive, not gross.
/r/askTRP16/07/15 08:24 PM
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Agreed completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 01:39 PM
1

It was sarcasm, man. Do I need to put a /s if I say something like, women fap to Gerard Butler because he's a great singer as we can see from his role in the Phantom of the Opera, and that and his high social status is what makes him attractive to women? Alright, alright. I just have the impression that some men believe that looks don't matter to women. In a world of extremely diverse opinions, it can be hard to distinguish between genuine opinions and sarcasm sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 01:26 PM
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The only people who believe that women are drawn to status, personality and whatnot are ugly males and their mothers. Looks attract females sexually. Personality and other factors determine if they would be interested in pursuing a LTR with a man. BUT! Women are less likely to be interested in casual sex, because the risks and costs for them are higher, while the chance for reward (female orgasm) is smaller. Some girls have a IDGAF attitude. That gets them called "cock-sucking-carousel-riding-wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 12:36 PM
1

Women are fapping to Danny Devito or Woody Allen? Do you really believe that or was it sarcasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 12:15 PM
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