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It’s possible, but it’ll take some time.
/r/RedPillWomen19/09/23 03:08 AM
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You let it go and find friends who are more in line with your values, or ones who don’t care at all. This is what happens when you “level up”, the people who no longer resonate with you will naturally become distant.
/r/RedPillWomen23/06/23 01:35 AM
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A lot of women aren’t taught about feminine sexuality. It’s assumed that the male perspective of sexuality is the “correct” way, so when women don’t want to have sex like men, we’re called crazy or treated like something is wrong with us. Birth control and antidepressants certainly have an effect on libido, but there’s often more issues at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 10:43 PM
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A lot of men assume that a traditional/submissive woman is the same as a doormat. In reality, it’s assuming that both parties have a role in the relationship. I’m in a traditional relationship and identify as submissive in the relationship. Im the woman of the house, my job is to keep the vibe up and make it fun and comfortable. His job is to take away everything standing in the way of me doing my job. I go to him first when I encounter a problem or a want, and he fixes it. It’s possible with le…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 09:41 PM
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Society includes men, women, children, pets, etc. Some men (likely the younger crowd) are entirely focused on sex, but other men are focused on building families and supporting society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 01:53 AM
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Some women get angry because sex workers are getting paid while they are giving it away for free. Men better themselves to get sex from women, no doubt about it. But at the end of the day, men bettering themselves also betters society, and if men don’t have to do all the things you describe, then we don’t get a better society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:16 AM
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Not really. I am a fully functioning adult and am capable of earning money if shit hits the fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 02:24 PM
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I’m in a completely traditional relationship and don’t feel like I’m completely dependent on my husband for… anything, really. He lives here, so the bills will always get paid, cause he’s a functional adult. So long as I live with him, I know that I won’t have to worry about it. My only “job” is to have fun and bring in the magic! He doesn’t care about what I spend “his” money on, because what’s his is mine, and he will reap the benefits of whatever it is I purchase.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 08:50 PM
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This is what I would do in your situation… I would cook dinner at whatever time you think is reasonable, and leave a plate for him. Eat alone, and then continue on your evening as normal. Play some nice music and light candles, take a wonderful bath, study, read, whatever! He will get the message and start telling you what his schedule is. It might take a few tries, but he will miss you and get with the program. I don’t ever ask what my husbands plans are, he will end up telling me if he wants m…
/r/RedPillWomen03/11/22 03:25 PM
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I get that, it’s the energy of constantly worrying about him and what he is doing. You’re telling him to take you out on dates and where to go and what to do, and then taking it personally and crying when he doesn’t do it. Complaining about how he never takes you out and he never does anything right. That’s being controlling, babe. That’s throwing a tantrum like a child. Men don’t want to parent grown women, no more than women want to parent grown men.
/r/RedPillWomen02/11/22 10:32 PM
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If my new wife cried every time I came home, I would lie about where I was too. If my wife was tracking my every move and treating me like I was doing something wrong, I would never want to be around her either. OP, take a chill pill. Seriously. He’s your husband, not your entire life. He will come around when you stop chasing him down.
/r/RedPillWomen02/11/22 08:52 PM
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Here’s some advice: Focus on YOU. Pretend that he’s not your husband anymore, but your roommate. Do this for a few weeks and then see how things are going. Leave him alone and let him come to you.
/r/RedPillWomen02/11/22 07:18 PM
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I would let him buy the one that you love. That way you both get what you want!
/r/RedPillWomen02/11/22 12:15 AM
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Hire help and stop doing things that you don’t want to do. I’m sure he would be more understanding if you told him with love in your eyes that you’re exhausted and need to sit this one out.
/r/RedPillWomen30/10/22 06:29 PM
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I had to literally stop reading because of how level 10 insane this is. He’s being abusive to you. Healthy men don’t dole out punishments and behave this way. They just don’t. My advice to you is to agree with everything he’s saying, and when he’s not around, make your plans to leave. He’s pushing you away for a reason, so give him the ultimate gift of submission and get the hell out.
/r/RedPillWomen27/10/22 07:26 PM
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That depends. I think 4 years is a good amount of time between kids, so 3? Maybe 4 with less time between each.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:02 AM
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It would have to be structured like personal injury payments. Cover all the hospital bills, minimum, and postpartum care, and then payments for any long term health complications as a result of pregnancy and birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:41 AM
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That’s one of the joys of being a modern woman, you get to have both. My best advice is to drop the boss babe mentality when around men, and even around other people. Play dumb when you need to. Date someone older than you.
/r/RedPillWomen20/10/22 11:28 PM
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I get that. He doesn’t go without. He’s a simple guy and is happier looking at me in the fancy clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:07 PM
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Well, we’re married, and he likes everything that I bring home, whether it’s home decor or clothing or planning excellent vacations for our family. It’s one less thing for him to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:33 PM
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All depends on the woman and the man, the nature of the relationship, and the stage of life you’re in. My husband is frugal with himself, so that I can have the freedom to spend his money how I want to. There is always enough for me to not worry and to do what I want to do. A lot of men who have good financial sense can get controlling about where the money goes, or let the desire to save money/be frugal take over, and that’s unattractive to most women. I’m talking about the men who drive a bust…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:44 PM
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Income is important, but good financial sense is even more important. I know plenty of men who have a 6 figure income but spend it all on stupid shit. No savings, no emergency fund, no investment portfolio. They have nice cars. I don’t find that attractive, I find safety and security attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:23 AM
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I’ve never paid for anything while on a date with a man. It’s just assumed that he will be paying. It’s different for each person and each couple, but I still think that the man should be the one paying for dates. It’s chivalrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:32 PM
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Not all older men are actively looking for 20 year olds to date and marry. It’s very uncommon for such things to actually pan out. Younger women are more attractive than older women, but women are still women. A 40 year old woman is still going to be attractive to a 50 year old man, and that’s often all that it takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:27 AM
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Can you think of one man who you don’t hate? One singular man in history who hasn’t hurt you or who you don’t think could? Mr. Rogers. Bob Ross. Could even be a fictional character, like the dad from Finding Nemo or Bob from bob’s burgers. Gandalf. Doesn’t really matter. The truth is, only a very small percentage of men are rotten to the core with no redeeming qualities, like a tiny tiny percent. Most people are a mixture of good and bad, with more good than bad. Most men are dying for the oppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:52 AM
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That’s what complimentary means. Men give, women receive. Women give men a container in which to give. You can’t have one without the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 12:06 AM
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And what you’re doing is the fallacy fallacy, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 09:49 PM
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Logically, sure. But that’s assuming that relationships must be equal in every way and that the people who are in the relationship must be exactly the same. Truthfully, relationships aren’t equal, and men and women aren’t equal. They’re meant to be complimentary and harmonious. It’s not fair, but it’s better when it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:05 PM
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Still married and still very much in love lol. I just had to tell him that I enjoyed those things a lot, but got caught up in other things and wasn’t as appreciative as I should have been. He got the message and started doing them again, and all is well!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:26 AM
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Not really, not in general. I love men and I know that most men are good. I’m very happy to live in a day and age that is so safe, and men are always so happy and willing to help me when I ask. It’s something that happens subconsciously, like a computer program. I’m generally really open and like making eye contact and talking to strangers, but sometimes the program takes over.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:43 PM
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You’re right. There are times/places that I feel really uncomfortable, and want to come off as invisible as possible. It’s a “me” thing and has nothing to do with men. I just get flustered and think that if I make eye contact, then the man is going to see me, and I’ll somehow be in danger. More often than not, I’m just feeling weird, or have some other issue that is bothering me and taking up mental space. Uncomfortable shoes, trying a new lipstick and not used to it, worried about where I’m goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 05:23 AM
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Lots. Cooking for me. He’d ask if I wanted dinner, and I would say no, because I thought that he was going to ask me a bunch of follow up questions (what do you want to eat, do you want salmon, do you want me to go to the store, etc etc etc) and I found that annoying. I didn’t want to have to plan out everything, especially when I figured I could just do it myself. I didn’t realize that he would do exactly what I told him to do, from “I don’t care, surprise me!” to “I want A5 steak served on a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 11:21 PM
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Certainly. I was doing more or less what you said in your last sentence to him. I would be peeved about how he did something, like not putting things in the fridge the way I liked them after grocery shopping. Or that I liked x brand more than what he got. I would then try to convince him that my process is better, and teach him how to do it my way. I would do that for about 3 minutes, and then just ended up fixing it and doing it myself. Eventually, he would put away only his beer and left the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:54 PM
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I totally feel for men in that way. It took a lot of work for me to own up to my shit and change both my behavior AND the words AND the tone that I was using. I didn’t realize it at the time, but now that I have, it’s changed the dynamics with ALL the males in my circle. Our home is soft and squishy and light and playful now, with lots of warmth and comfort and niceness! Women need to chill out and relax lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:36 PM
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Women are really confusing men about what we want from them. We have forgotten that MOST men are good, and they just want us to be happy and feel comfortable, so they will act in the way that they think we want them to. I accidentally “trained” my husband into doing things that made me unhappy, and “trained” him out of the behaviors and actions that I actually liked. Poor guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 01:30 AM
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I feel like only fans is slightly better than the general porn industry, because it allows the “actor” to maintain control of the content. It’s easier to say no to doing something that makes the actor uncomfortable when the exchange is just between two random people. It’s a lot harder to say no to a room full of people with contracts, and saying no could lead to bigger problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:24 PM
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There’s different types of attraction and different levels of admiration. The “bad boy” is a fun character to explore and play around with, but I wouldn’t want my man to be in that character ALL the time. For example, my husband is working from home, and every once in a while he will drag me to the bedroom, have his way with me, and then get dressed and then get on a call. It’s fun and sexy, but it’s balanced by all the sweet and romantic things he does. Like yeah, he will drag me to the bedroom…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:08 PM
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Woman here. Mens horniness and womens sexuality have been used as a profit generator since the dawn of time. I have no problem with a woman using what God gave her to make a living. I don’t see a problem with men using the platform, either. You’re only young and attractive for so long, so you might as well use it while you have it. My problem is with the companies and corporations that take advantage of the people using their platform, but I can’t be too mad, because it’s a business after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:38 PM
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Life gets a lot harder when you have to acknowledge your own shortcomings, make changes, and stop shifting the blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:03 PM
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He’s a feminist in the truest political sense of the word. He believes that women deserve equal rights and representation, and should have the option to choose any life path that makes them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 08:55 PM
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All the guys made it clear to me about their financial situation within the first couple of dates. One guy “casually” left his multi-page tax return on the table at the restaurant. Guys love to be impressive and show off, at least in my experience. I let them be the one who does the impressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:35 PM
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I didn’t care about how much money they made until they proposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:32 PM
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This is why I kept my financial life private from the men I was dating, before I got married. I didn’t want to deal with any of the drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:54 AM
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There are plenty of YouTube videos and “influencers” who’s primary focus is addressing womens dating troubles, and choosing the right partner. The current buzzword for this online is feminine energy. Shera7 is one of the original gold digging channels, and one of my favorites for entertainment. She’s hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 12:12 AM
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Don’t be yourself, be who you want to be. Don’t wait for the other person to decide who you are going to be. If you want to be the provider in your eventual future relationship, then be the provider when on dates. If you want your future relationship to be within the confines of marriage, then be the type of person who is looking for a spouse. Be upfront and considerate of what the other person is looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 01:29 AM
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Oh, totally!! Young women aren’t using their brains when dating and getting into relationships, it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:16 AM
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They put up with it for a time, and then they stop. Most divorces are initiated by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:47 AM
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Are you genuinely asking, or just complaining? Some things come easily to some people. Other people have to work hard for the same thing. Life isn’t fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:48 PM
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Ok… but that’s completely idiotic. Why put forth all the time, effort, energy, attention, and money to have sex with a singular woman once? One time, and then start all over again with a different woman. Especially if he’s unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:15 AM
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Right, but how does the man benefit more from doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:08 AM
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I mean… no? Why would doing that be beneficial in any capacity?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:32 AM
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Unattractive guys don’t have many options, so when they are able to get a woman, they tend to want to keep her. This is true of most men, imo. Guys know how much time/effort/energy goes into wooing a woman so when they have one, they tend to treat them pretty well. This is talking about relationships and not just hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:46 PM
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Relationships are about building things together, however little or much you decide to build. We are compliments, not opposites. I think men on here forget that, or haven’t been taught yet. A beautiful woman with a terrible heart and no brains is going to give you nice looking kids, but that’s about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 06:19 PM
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You’re obsessing and ruminating over a perceived slight, and obsessing over how you can mentally “win”. It’s like OCD.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 06:26 PM
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You’re in “fight or flight” mode, aka having a stress response. You are clearly in need of some deep breaths, maybe punching a pillow, or doing a few squats to get the adrenaline out of your system.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 06:13 PM
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It shouldn’t be that big of an issue, depending on what you’re looking for. Frankly, you should really focus on work and school, and maybe save serious dating for later on. Us girls have a magic way of becoming a guy’s obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:24 PM
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Rape, domestic violence, and sexual harassment are only 3 of the many ways that women are at risk while dating or in relationships with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:56 PM
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Totally! It varies from woman to woman, as we all have things that we hate doing but feel like we have to do. I could literally write a book about the ways my husband provides for me, outside of just the money, but just to give you more examples: Makes sure I have cash at all times, literally checks my wallet every couple days and puts money in there. Puts cash in my car for parking/tips. Doesn’t just assume that I’ve got it or can figure it out, he makes sure. Handles my appointments for doctor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:48 PM
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I describe the positive domination/positive masculinity as caretaking. It can easily slip over into subjugation and “toxic masculinity” when put into the wrong hands, and with the wrong person. But that’s SO rare, you know? A lot of the American/western culture says that women are better caretakers, but I actually think men are better suited for it. The problem is that most single men don’t have someone to take care of, so that energy ends up directed at random things. And they’re told it’s bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:11 PM
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It’s a hard thing to describe, because dominance has a good side and a bad side. It’s a dance, just like everything else. My husband is very masculine and very much a provider and protector. He steps up when he’s needed, that’s all I can say. Let me give you some examples, which “sound” like controlling behavior, but are actually quite caring and show gentle dominance. He prefers to be the one to pick out shows and movies, because he has “pre-screened” them and knows that they are good enough fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:28 AM
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No. Life will find a way. There will always be a man available to do whatever a woman needs him to do, or wants him to do, or some other solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:51 PM
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Not the highest value man, but the founder of a certain sugar dating website searched me out. I’ve been on dates with professional athletes, restaurant heirs, founders of large tech companies, crypto billionaires, “family money” guys, neurosurgeons, and then some. At the end of the day, all of these men wanted the same thing: to live a normal life and have a good woman to come home to. They’d push for sex quickly and I would decline, they would get mad and not talk to me, but always ended up com…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 06:37 PM
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There’s an expectation in some eastern/older cultures that you build love over time. Each gender does their assigned role, with the man being the provider and the woman has children. Everything else is built upon over time, with the expectation that marriage is for life and that love will come. Yes, the woman may not be attracted to you IN THE BEGINNING, but over the course of a 60 year marriage, a couple years of weirdness isn’t going to matter much. You may not have a lot in common, but you di…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:28 PM
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Basic level, meaning that no human has the protected right to hit or kill another without just cause, no one has the protected right to steal from another, just basic things that we have collectively decided that we won’t do to each other. Totally equal and protected rights would mean that women and men would be treated the exact same way, and given the exact same rights across the board. It makes sense from a logical/experimental perspective, right? But it wouldn’t work in practice. Let’s say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:09 PM
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I think most people can agree that all people, man or woman, should be granted the same basic level human rights. Are we ever going to see total equal rights? No, never. It’s just not possible. Equal rights in relation and complimentary to each other? That’s possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:48 AM
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When you mean “held to the same standard”, do you mean that women should be held to the same standard that men create for men, and vice versa? Because that doesn’t really make sense, since we are so different, and have such different values.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:30 AM
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Honestly, this is the perfect answer. One of the core tenants of financial literacy and financial freedom is to LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS. Base your budget on what you have, and make adjustments when needed. Even and especially in situations where there are dual incomes, you make big lifestyle decisions based on one income. It just makes sense. My parents did that, where my dad paid for everything, and my moms income went towards the “extras”, like vacations, college funds, and investments. He hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:17 PM
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There’s a lot more than just paying rent when it comes to providing… giving her shelter is just a small piece. Can you pay for all of HER bills, too? Food, clothing, transportation, insurance, gifts, little expenses, school if she wants it? If your ability to provide stops at 80% of the rent, well, that’s just not enough, not yet. You might be able to find a girl who is happy with that, but it’ll be easier when you have more to offer. Let me give you an example of real leadership. My husband jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:02 PM
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20% of the bills is only a few dollars? Where do you live? It depends on the girl, but if you’re wanting to have total respect and submission, you would be better off not asking her for anything, or to do anything. You have to pay the cost to be the boss. You would have to share the credit and treat her as another provider, in public and in private, otherwise she will be pissed off and emasculate you. I can’t respect a man, listen to his advice, and allow him to lead if he can’t figure out how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:35 AM
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It wouldn’t work out for me. There’s only enough room in a relationship for one provider, otherwise there’s going to be competition for appreciation, and screwy dynamics. My husband is the full provider, financially and otherwise. He handles pretty much everything. It’s easy and so simple to respect and be submissive to him, because I know he has my back. He doesn’t want anything from me, really, he just wants me to be relaxed and happy. That makes him happy and feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:34 AM
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I understand that feeling, it’s gotta be tough. I’ve failed at enough things to know that struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 07:09 PM
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Being a beauty queen has it’s perks. Yes, it’s a lot of effort, but it’s offset by how little you have to do for yourself otherwise. It also feels good that MOST of my energy, time, and effort is spent on MYSELF and not on others. I spend the time to make myself look good, and the people just flock to me. I get my gas pumped for me, free coffee and free meals, discounts, perks, and people just generally want to help me and take care of me. I’m blessed with natural beauty. I have good skin, thick…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:36 PM
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Think about it this way. You’re confident that you are competent enough to run an 8 minute mile or to catch a ball. I’m not confident enough in my ball-catching skills to catch 100% of the ones I throw, but I’m confident that I have enough competence (practice and success) to catch 3 out of 10. I know that I can catch 3. Because I have the confidence to catch 3, and knowing that practice will lead to progress, I can feel OK with failing. My world isn’t going to end because I didn’t catch enough.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:11 PM
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Confidence comes before competence. It’s the part of you that gives you the courage to just try to do something, which is different than actually doing it. Fall down 7 times, get up 8 type of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:44 PM
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Exactly! It’s all about working with your partner and not letting the stupid shit get in the way. I do the whole makeup and pretty dresses feminine thing, but I also do all the car maintenance and home repairs myself. I have more tools and knowledge, and do it better than him. It’s just how it is. He grew up in the city and I grew up in the mountains. He likes it, cause he gets to play out a “my cousin Vinny” fantasy, and thinks it’s hot. He can show off to his friends. He does 80% of the cookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:16 PM
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Easy, for the most part. For example, I like to drive myself and park in the garage at the airport when going on a trip. It’s expensive, but it gets me closer to the entrance and my car is protected from the elements. Easier to manage my luggage, too. He parks in the economy lot, or will even take the bus. It’s cheaper. He’s not worried about his car or anything that I typically worry about. We are on a trip right now, and he parked us in the economy lot. He said he knows I hate it, but he can’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:04 PM
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I consider myself to be a fully self-actualized and very feminine woman. I’m in a marriage with a self-actualized and very masculine man. We both have our competencies and things that we are better at, and take the lead when we need to. That’s where the egalitarian part of society comes in. He’s a full provider, he pays for everything. It’s important for him to do that, and to feel accomplished, and like everything is under control. My feminine side comes in by making things just a little bit be…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:21 PM
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True love is something that is built upon over time, and it takes effort from both parties. Not just to build, but to not take away, either. My husband and I married after a short dating period. We don’t have the expectation that we know each other. We have the expectation that we are still getting to know each other, so there’s a lot of grace given when one of us messes something up. That’s love right there, in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:59 PM
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This skill can be obtained by other means than sex. It’s not exclusive to sex. Irrelevant Less likely, but still possible. Porn addiction has little to do with how much sex one gets, and more to do with addictive behaviors. Also irrelevant. Sex is a small part of a marriage, it’s not the only thing that matters. Igniting and maintaining sexual attraction is a tiny piece of the puzzle. Consider the context and context of a lifelong marriage. It includes the burial of friends, parents, family memb…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:28 AM
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All that is true, and has nothing to do with promiscuous men, which is the point of my response. I’ve already covered having experience with women. Experience with women is another independent variable, outside of having sex with them. Incels are independent from older virgin men, too. Experience with dating women doesn’t imply safety, it implies the opposite, especially when it comes to marriage. Shows that the guy doesn’t have the ability, desire, or competence to marry, or that something else…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:18 PM
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Tons of romantic experience with the opposite sex does nothing for the individual woman in question. He may have been able to make one woman happy by doing x, y, and z, but it’s pointless if the woman prefers a, b, and c. Sexually or romantic gestures, or even in conversation. Either way, the woman is going to have to train the guy to communicate love in the way that she receives it. With the guy who has less experience, there is less deconditioning required. Also, porn addiction is an independe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:05 PM
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This isn’t a debate over whether or not it’s a good thing to be competent with lots of different women. In a marriage, which is for life, what matters to a woman is whether or not the man is competent with THEM. How well he can attune to HER wants and desires. Having lots of sex with lots of different women does nothing to prove how well the man is able to be competent with HER. All it says is that he can get women to sleep with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:37 PM
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Ok, but this isn’t about whether or not a promiscuous man is able to get married or have a long term relationship. Obviously, there are men who are able. This is about whether or not a promiscuous man is a good option for marriage from a woman’s perspective, and considering her best interests. You proved that I am correct, so thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:20 PM
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Those are all different independent variables. Being able to connect with women on some level is different than sexual experience. Having a lot of sexual experience may imply that a guy can be trusted, and that he might be able to connect with women, but it also can imply that the man ONLY knows exactly what to say to get a woman to sleep with him, and when she starts needing more, he drops her to move onto the next conquest. A man who has good relationships with women outside of sexual experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:08 PM
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A man looking for love knows better than to sleep with a whole bunch of women. To me, your example says that the man is too controlled by lust/desire and is unable to think about things rationally. He doesn’t have his own set of brakes, can’t learn from his mistakes or takes several tries to learn the lesson, so to speak. Learning lessons quickly and then moving on is so important for growth and change.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:46 PM
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Right, but a promiscuous man who gets married is (hopefully) no longer promiscuous and not chasing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:40 PM
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I’m married, but I have been on dates with promiscuous guys in the past. I can just tell when first meeting the guy whether or not he’s that kind of guy or not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:03 PM
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I’m married, but I have been on dates with promiscuous guys in the past. I can just tell when first meeting the guy whether or not he’s that kind of guy or not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:03 PM
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I’m married, but I have been on dates with promiscuous guys in the past. I can just tell when first meeting the guy whether or not he’s that kind of guy or not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:03 PM
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My husband is a mutant-lite, over time I have taught him to be somewhat normal. He still rocks the long socks/cargo shorts on the reg and buys his shoes in bulk, but he’s an amazing husband. His only other sex partner was his first wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:34 AM
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Society vs men in your inner circle? Because society doesn’t care about someone’s success in the bedroom. I’m not going to base whether my male doctor is competent based on the notches on his bedpost, or elect a male government official to represent me because he looks like the kind of guy who gets around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:26 AM
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Not for HPV, not for men. This is the one that causes cervical cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:19 AM
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I’m married to one of them, and I made the right choice!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:18 AM
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That’s possible, but risk is still there for me as a woman. STDs can lay dormant or go unnoticed, a random child can show up in the picture in the future, and it’s just gross to me. I don’t want to let a diseased dick inside of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:53 PM
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They might get more attention, but they’re not getting married. The OP was asking about marriage. Most people looking to get married are considering their partners value to THEM vs their value to society. Some women will put a big emphasis on high sexual experience, and that’s fine, but it’s backwards thinking to me. I’d rather have a guy learn to pleasure ME and how I like it over time vs a man who knows how to pleasure other women, and who will need a lot of deconditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:46 PM
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Trust me, I’m thinking of the mutants. They would make good husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:34 PM
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When it comes to marriage, values and actions matter a lot more than looks and personality. Looks fade, personalities change. A promiscuous guy signals low value, at least to me. I don’t want to marry and spend my life with someone who prefers short term pleasure to long term reward. Too much risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:27 PM
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I can’t speak for all women, but I definitely look down on promiscuous men and would rather marry an older virgin than a guy who spent his young years having sex with many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:37 PM
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Think about it this way. When someone is acting crazy, you have the option to keep your cool, remain rational, and wait for the moment to pass. The other option is to get triggered in return and cause the encounter to escalate. This is basic emotional control. For the record, I was never emotionally abusive. I never called him names or said anything bad about his character. To give you an example, I got upset because we went on a trip and he didn’t make dinner reservations. It was New Year’s Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:09 PM
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I give him lots of credit for being so patient. He never got triggered in return, never took what I said personally, and didn’t fight back. He kept his head on straight and remained totally calm. Eventually, I noticed that I was the only one having problems and behaving poorly. I was a massive brat, and that’s not the kind of person I want to be. I calmed down and things dramatically changed! Honestly, if he had gotten angry/emotional in return, things would not have turned out the way they did …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 08:14 PM
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This is very true, I was a few months out of a bad relationship when I met my husband. My guard was up and I was basically screaming “PROVE TO ME YOURE NOT A BAD GUY” for the first several weeks. It was level 10 crazy looking back, but luckily he is patient and understanding. I was getting mad over stupid stuff and misunderstanding his intentions and acting like a frightened baby chick. I don’t have any deep history of being mistreated by men, either. I was just scared.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:36 PM
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How about this: my husbands first wife was, in his words, totally natural. She never wore makeup or did different hairstyles or put together fashionable outfits. She wore lululemon and sneakers. He thought that was what he liked. I’m not that type of woman, I spend a lot of time and money on putting myself together. Makeup and hair and jewelry and the whole nine yards. He recently came out and told me that he prefers my look to hers, and actually enjoys seeing what I put together and even sugges…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:20 PM
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When I was younger, I preferred the musician/creative/artist types. When I got older, I had enough experience to know that I prefer to be the creative/artsy one in the relationship and was more attracted to rational and level headed types. I wanted to stay home and work on my projects, be imaginative and playful, and live in my own desires rather than being productive. It can work with two creatives, but it wasn’t working out for me. I wanted my energy and money to support my creativity, and so …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:20 PM
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My husband needs me to need him, he’s just that kind of guy. Not in a childlike/codependent way, in a hero/playful kind of way. It’s an invitation for flirting and intimacy and playing around, and for him to actually talk some sense into me when I need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:26 AM
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It goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:16 PM
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Nothing wrong with that either!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:14 PM
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I agree with what you said in that last bit. Divorces can be nasty business, and those are usually what people talk about. Most divorces are settled out of court so a lot of the problems that people face are for the benefit of the lawyers checkbook and not for the benefit of the individual parties. There are ways to choose which tangible benefits you are willing to part with and which ones you aren’t. That’s where negotiations come in. Trading spousal support for the house, for example, or tradi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:00 PM
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When you talk about alimony, or spousal support, it’s assumed that you’re talking about a monthly payment. Are you talking more broadly about any asset that would hold/appreciate in value that the other party wouldn’t reap the benefits of? I agree it’s a problem, but women are people, and you can’t control them. The value that women bring to relationships is mostly intangible vs what the man brings, and that’s why our court system is the way that it is. Men carry the seed, and it’s their respons…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:31 PM
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I have found that it takes about 3-4 “tries” or discussions for my husband and I to come to a clear consensus about a problem and a solution that we can both agree on. That’s where the communication comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:43 PM
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Most people aren’t clear about what they want when they are complaining about something. When you talk about male dating struggles, what exactly are you wanting from women on here, or in person? Do you want a solution, to be heard, or some other kind of action? Sympathy, a “there there” coo like a mother does to a baby? If there’s no call to action, then you’re just screaming into the void. It’s pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:40 PM
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Welcome to the US legal system, where the law is interpreted based on the facts… as it should be. Every case is different and should be treated as such. Alimony is rarely ordered these days, mostly in cases where the couple was married for a long time and one party earned significantly more than the other. It’s also limited to a few years, as rehabilitation, so the lesser earning party can get skills or schooling to enter the job force. No judge would order that a woman with children and no job …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:51 PM
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I’m not a man so I’m not sure, so this is just based on my observations among the single men in my life (friends, family, coworkers). They live their lives and go on dates whenever they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:53 PM
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I don’t think the standards are too high, I think that modern men consider the successful men to be the rule and not the exception. They’re not struggling, they’re doing average. Since men are so competitive, they consider average/normal to be a struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:41 PM
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Exactly! I feel like it creates too much pressure, and doesn’t leave much (if any) room if/when when you actually DO need them. I’m talking about the big stuff, like serious illness or injury, the early child rearing years, significant loss of property, death in the family. Even still, with a good enough mindset and resilient nature, these things can be no big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:20 PM
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That just means the couple isn’t a match, and not for each other. Too many people try to make the other person fit and that’s too much struggle for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:44 PM
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Total equality is pretty much impossible to achieve, when both sexes bring completely different things to the table. That’s why being a compliment is so important! We are equal in potential value, but unequal when it comes to pretty much everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:50 PM
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I wouldn’t say it’s as simple as a man wanting someone lesser or a woman wanting someone greater. Men have a need to be helpful, to fill in a spot in a person’s life. It’s echoed in our biology and reproduction. If a woman can do things by herself, and has no space for the man to fit in to, he’s not going to feel useful and like he’s needed. Likewise for women. Our need isn’t as strong, but it’s still there. We finally have the laws and societal support to actually fulfill roles in society outsi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:50 PM
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I prefer to be the invitation as the woman, rather than the pursuer. I’ll never ask a man out, but I will put myself right in front of him, strike up a conversation, and see where things go. I figure if he wants to see me again, he will ask for my number or want to set up a date. I’m more cautious when approached by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:01 AM
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I have never been a man and had male/male friendships, so I’m just trying to get some insight into the differences. I typically put male friends into the “brother” or “brother in law” category, where we can hang out and shoot the shit, discuss mutual categories of interest, and have playful banter. We will do things together instead of just talking, like ride motorcycles or something public. However, the difference is I have to keep a very close eye on them getting too romantic. If I get the sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:19 PM
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This is what is so confusing to me about men these days… why would you be upset about a woman asking you for help? Is it because you’re not getting something in return, or something else? If so, why blame the woman when you’re the one who helped without discussing expectations first?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:37 PM
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Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t call people unless I need something from them… whether it’s an opinion, a solution, company for an event or meal, to borrow something, or for emotional connection through conversation. All my friends contact me for the same reason. It’s no biggie. That’s what relationships are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:16 AM
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I’d see that as a good thing, honestly. Means that they trust you to help them, or that you have a solution to their problem. That’s very masculine!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:49 PM
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Exactly. High earning men are smart people (typically) and like recognizes like. In statistics, things will trend towards the mean. Smart people know this. If a man has a high IQ, say 160, why the FUCK would he risk the potential IQ of his future children on a woman who is beautiful but dumb as a box of rocks? That’s not smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:46 AM
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Think about it this way. Men are efficient, objective, focused, and logical. It’s why we love you. Is it illogical and irrational to have a separate pillow for sleeping and for displaying on the bed? Yes, and yet, throw pillows exist. Because some woman years ago wanted to have 2 different styles of pillows, and a man who loved her wanted her to be happy, so he made her another one. Happy wife, happy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:12 AM
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I’m a woman and have dated multiple men who have all said the same thing. There are some men out there who want the type of woman KS describes, but NOT ALL MEN. And not all provider men. And not all HVM. I have never dated a man who made less than 6 figures, and only dated men with useful degrees. They have all stated that my looks drew them in, but my brain kept them coming back. My dad, brothers, uncles, and male cousins are ALL mid-high 6 figure earners with degrees and accounts and retiremen…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:54 AM
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Of course, heterosexual men are mostly attracted to feminine women. However, submissiveness means different things to men than to women, and explaining how it is interpreted and why it pisses women off is the point of my post. Submissive to a woman means lay down and play dead to a woman. It means that you are not allowed to have an independent life or opinions or to disagree in any way. Many men have used this to abuse women, so we don’t like to be told to do this. Provider men don’t want to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:37 AM
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The reason women get angry at Kevin Samuels is that he asserts that ALL (or even most) masculine/protector/provider men will ONLY accept feminine, fit, and submissive women. It’s just simply not true out in the real world. There are some men who do, but a LOT of these masculine/“HVM” are too busy to care about what the woman brings to the table. It’s not worth the mental energy to do these types of mental gymnastics and calculate ROI when you could use that energy to make money instead. In fact,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:19 AM
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Right, I’m agreeing with you that what he said is ridiculous, and only crazy wealth would make not having all my emotional and intimate needs met be worth it. A guy who sucks in bed, is terrible, and doesn’t meet my emotional needs BUT has a little coin is a big hell no. Financially stable, good provider, attentive, and meets my needs sexually (or is at least willing to learn) is a bare minimum. Good dick is only good until the light bill is due. But… If a mega billionaire happened to be shitty …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:30 AM
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I’ll be honest, if the guy was filthy rich, like he could buy me a private jet and a house with staff and everything I could ever possibly want, and my next 7 generations would be completely taken care of… Yeah, I could give up good sex and give him blowjobs. I think many people would. It’s the ethical thing to do, right? For some idiot with a little bit of money and financial skills? Hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 01:08 AM
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It depends on what the relationship IS, or is leading to. If it’s marriage, then I can let some stuff go, knowing that we have 50+ years to hone our skills in bed. Most healthy minded men enjoy seeing their partners happy and satisfied. Myron is pretty much saying that he prefers his partner to be a dead fish in bed, which is what he will get if he doesn’t put in the work lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:21 PM
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This is just me, I like always having a mutual project going on with my partner. People can easily get stuck in a routine and it’s important to have something different to do every night to switch things up. In my case, my husband is the breadwinner and works a crazy amount, so 90% of the creative fun stuff falls to me. Because he respects the work I do to put the stuff together, he will put his phone away, give me his full attention for 2-3 hours, and play along with whatever I want to do. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:52 PM
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I’m happily married, and we have the mutual understanding that we can have things go our way so long as the other person is getting their needs met. Like I said, a casual game on weekends when all the other tasks are done is fine with me. Video games are entertainment, and there is room for that in a well-functioning household. I get my time to do selfish things and entertainment, too. But I don’t do that when there’s a laundry list of things that need to be done or when he’s overburdened. But m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:11 PM
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Yes, I used to be a gamer, and some of my favorite memories from childhood were watching my older brother play video games. As teens, he would play the games while I read the strategy guides online and gave tips. I don’t have a problem with video games, but I can’t have fun and enjoy it when there isn’t a balance. It’s also not very fun for me to watch violent shooting games or online games, I just don’t like it. My husband plays Pokémon go, but he does it on his own time, and it doesn’t interfe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 06:48 PM
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When I’m in a relationship with a man, I should be the only woman he is investing in romantically. That’s part of the deal. Like I said, a video game session on the weekend for a couple hours is no big deal. We all have our hobbies and things to do outside of each other. If he’s investing more of his time and energy into a video game than he is investing in me, then there is no relationship, and no reason for me to allow access to me. He can have his video games, and I can have the attention tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:52 PM
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It’s one thing to sit down and play a game for an hour or two on the weekends. That’s fine and I don’t think many women would have a problem with that. It’s another to play for an hour or two every night after work, or for hours on weekends. When people are working, you only have a few hours in the evenings to spend time together. Its hard for me to feel connected when a video game is being prioritized over me… I’m a woman for hells sake, I could easily go to any bar or coffee shop and be the ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:31 PM
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I think it’s because men are competitive in both directions… being both the best, and having it the worst. I see it as competing for comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:50 AM
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Because I’m a feminine woman, and attracted to masculine men. I like to be the pretty one. It’s not a double standard… do whatever you want, wear makeup if you want, but it’s just not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:06 AM
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I think you’re misinterpreting what she said about every child being born into a loving home that can support them. It doesn’t mean that forced abortions for the unprepared are the next logical step.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:52 PM
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I would be weirded out if my guy wore as much makeup as me. I wear makeup every day, not Instagram style, but enough to notice “this woman is wearing makeup”. I do admit to playfully forcing my husband into some of my grooming habits, like trimming his eyebrows and using a body scrub, but I wouldn’t like it if his routine was anywhere closer to mine. Sometimes he will use my mascara to fill in his beard “where it doesn’t connect” (whatever that means lol) but I don’t notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:08 PM
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You wait for him to bring up the opportunity to make it known. If he asks what you’re looking for, you tell him that you’re looking for marriage. If he asks you to go back to his place, or to be his girlfriend, you say thank you but you’re not looking to be any man’s girlfriend, you want to be a wife. And then you hold to that, and don’t let up.
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/22 06:47 PM
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Well, we live in a first world country, and not out in the bushes. People have human rights, and we have structures in place to support their rights. I could be wrong, but my understanding of your problem is that robbing people is immoral, whether it’s taxes or withholding money from fathers who don’t support their kids. If morality is the problem here, I would argue that it’s worse to let children go hungry and suffer than it is to rob someone. When you are robbed, or have money taken from you,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:38 PM
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It’s not money going to the woman, though. It’s money going to the children. It gets paid to the woman, because children can’t make those decisions, and it requires an adult. The kids have to have their basic needs met, and since it takes 2 people to make them, it takes 2 people to support them. That’s the general idea that the law is based on. If dad doesn’t want to pay for his kids to live, then the burden falls on the government and the people to pay for his half, because we live in a civiliz…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:16 PM
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Beautifully written and I agree with so much of what you said. There has always been a battle between 2 opposing forces to find harmony, and there always will be. I think that’s just one of the universal laws of this reality. Battles of the sexes, men vs women. Nature vs nurture. Industry vs entropy. Man vs machine. Country vs country. Flexion vs extension, inhalation vs exhalation. The hope for harmony, happiness, and mutual sacrifice is supremely feminine and imo, the most powerful aspect of t…
/r/RedPillWomen02/05/22 07:57 PM
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Not at all, just explaining how the number line works!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:11 AM
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I didn’t misspeak, I know what I meant when I wrote what I did. You’re trying to get me to narrowly define something that was written non-specifically, and it was written that way on purpose, lol. I included both the upper limits and lower limits, and considered the different variables that might be in play, and with the knowledge that I have available to me, I gave a range lmao Let’s say I define the lower limit to when a male begins building his nest (my terminology, after all) to be when he i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:14 AM
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What you call a few years and what I call a decade is just a matter of personal opinion, semantics, and context. I tried to be as specific as I could when defining how I’m using the word decade in this context, so that you’d have a better shot of understanding. My definition (in the context of describing the very distant past, as a layperson and not under strict scrutiny) would be a period of time between ~7 years and ~13 years, and to further provide context, from age 6 or 7. Multiple decades i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:29 AM
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Finding harmony is key. I don’t believe that you can really compare a woman’s value to a man’s from a purely empirical or rational perspective, because what we bring to the table is so different and people desire different things. I believe that men, above all else, just want to be helpful and be thought of as good guys. That they met the objective and did it well… Even better if it’s coming from a woman, and even better if she’s beautiful. I know that this type of “fuel” is extremely powerful a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:49 PM
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It’s so true… and it doesn’t just end after the first time. Before I was married, I was actively dating a pool of men and they tried so hard to negotiate with me to get me to have sex with them. I heard it all, all the lies and promises and counter-arguments and everything else, and the more firmly I resisted, the stronger and more persistent they became. A couple guys said that they wouldn’t date me anymore unless I gave it up, and that lasted all of 2 weeks before they were calling me again. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:46 PM
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As a younger, hotter, and higher value trophy wife… I’ve never had to do anything like that. I give him a list of the things that I want, and he does all the work. 90% of the time, I don’t even have time to tell him what I want… he lives to make me happy. That’s why I said in my original reply that men shouldn’t marry until they are ready to meet the demands of women. A lot of young guys just don’t have the experience to be leaders and handle the responsibility of a submissive and subservient wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:28 PM
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Sometimes I forget that people take things literally… no, they didn’t spend decades building a literal nest, but they spent years and, if that amount of time came within +/- ~3 years (due to rounding and simplifying language) a decade or two, honing their skills and “building a nest” before becoming an alpha or leader of a tribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:26 PM
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Because women are wonderful, duh! Thank you for removing yourself from the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:39 PM
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Initiation into manhood doesn’t equate to being able to marry and father children, though. That’s usually the initiation into “man training”, where the kid is separated from the women and brought over to the men, to learn how to be a leader and provider and how to share. The Spartan men didn’t marry and settle down until they were much older, after 30 in a lot of cases. In most cultures, if the man was still in training and had yet to build the nest, then the man’s father would be expected to pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:48 AM
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Optimal human survival meant having a strong and intelligent and healthy man, who was capable of providing and protecting, and who had proven himself to be able to do so. It also meant a younger and healthy woman who could bear lots of children. A 13 year old male may have had the capacity to reproduce, but would not have the skills to build adequate shelter that would keep the woman safe while he spent days hunting. He couldn’t fight off predators or stronger men. If he could not provide or pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:39 AM
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I totally get you, and I think being religious has a big part to play with that. There’s usually a strong sense of community and being held to a higher power that supports that, like you said. A lot of people weren’t raised that way, and weren’t built with relationships and marriage in mind. I think marriage is the key to success and solves a huge chunk of the relationship problems we are seeing today.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:38 AM
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Our brains are just wired differently, in addition to being gatherers. Women like comfort and are more creative. I know that a lot of men would be happy and content if he could still be in the cave with a remote control and maybe a beer fridge. I see this in the men in my life and especially my husband… conserve energy, make do, utilitarian, meet the basic needs and no more. Nothing wrong with that, but the cave needs curtains and I need a door and a bathtub and some things to sit on… so go buil…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:30 AM
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Sounds like my husband LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:12 AM
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Not sure where you gathered that conclusion, but ok. I’m saying that the idea of “not enough” and wanting more (either of what you have, or don’t have) is simply a human trait. Men have it too. We want the sun to rise in the morning, we want more air to breathe, more money, more free time, more sex, more health, more more more. Picking a man who is able to provide you with the things you are wanting him to give you, both now and in the future, is the easiest solution to the problem… is it not? T…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 11:31 PM
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“Not enough” is one of the biggest hurdles that men and women have to overcome, as well as the feeling of time. Of course women want it all, and more, and more and more and more. That’s a trait of the feminine. We want the shoes in every color, and every style, and a size up and a size down… just in case. We have purses to carry shit just in case we need it, and we overpack, and we want to be the best in our field and the best wife and the best mom and sister and friend. We want the man who give…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:31 PM
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It’s incredibly rare that two people are exactly perfect for each other and perfect in the same way. It all comes down to values. Over the course of a 60 or 70 year marriage, looks will fade, you will go through childbearing and raising children and grandchildren, riches, poverty, death of family members, sickness, happiness, depression, moving, job changes, the list goes on. Having good sex is just a piece of the puzzle, and some people put a huge value on that and are willing to overlook other…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:16 PM
1

Withholding implies that the other party is somehow entitled to whatever the thing is. No man is entitled to a woman’s love, affection, sex, or access to her body. It’s not his, it doesn’t belong to him, and he doesn’t get to choose when and how often he receives it. Are people on this sub really that stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:10 PM
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There’s a huge difference between the discourse found online, and how people actually feel and behave in real life. Feminism is about giving women more options and more choices. Now, a woman can literally decide whether or not she wants to do a career or stay at home, and she has the ability to also CHANGE HER MIND when it’s not working for her anymore. She can work and raise a family, too. She can work part time or own her own business, or stay at home and never work outside the home. She can g…
/r/RedPillWomen23/04/22 08:02 AM
1

I guess if you’re dealing with someone who is actively involved with multiple sex parters, and you have absolute certainty that she is doing something different with you than with others, that would make sense. Even still, it’s not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 07:30 AM
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I’ve always wondered about the mentality around #2. It seems pretty childish and self-centered to me. It’s not that personal, you know? Maybe the girl tried it out with an ex, and then realized that she doesn’t like it, and doesn’t want to do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:25 PM
4

Women are confused, just like men are. Especially in America. We have both forgotten about the millions of years of evolution and things from childhood that are backing up most of our decisions, and then trying to figure out what is going wrong and blaming the other person. We’ve both forgotten about the differences in men and women and what actually makes us happy and feel fulfilled. Truth is, men and women are wired completely differently. One is not better than the other. That said, men AND w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:18 PM
10

Yes, but Judaism (his religion) is very woman centric and borderline feminist. Not in a man-hating way, but in a woman’s empowerment way. Women are placed on a huge pedestal, and even considered to be closer to God in human form. It’s said that when god designed the universe, he gave everything and all the gifts and magic to women, and the only thing that was left for men was physical strength. For that reason, women get to do pretty much whatever we want. We don’t have near as many obligations …
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/22 06:34 AM
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He’s also Jewish, and despite being a very traditional religion, it’s VERY women-centric and almost bordering on feminist. Men have gender specific rules and obligations, and women have gender specific rules and obligations, and the main focus is on being great parents. Being a doctor is going to set up your kids for a terrific future, and high value men will recognize that. A smart and high-achieving mom is going to be nothing but a positive influence. OP… If a man is put out by you being a doc…
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/22 03:15 AM
2

I’m sorry to hear about that, I can’t imagine how difficult that must have been! I reached out to literally EVERYONE I could, if someone didn’t answer my call or text, I moved onto the next one. I joined Facebook groups for battered women and military wives, traded services and bartered for legal assistance and represented myself in court, got grants for school, and even found help on Reddit. It was hard AF but I got it done. I’m lucky to live in a good community.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 04:23 AM
2

Not true, but alright. Community college, free classes, boot camps, scholarships, grants, sponsors, and barter are all options that are out there, just not many people are aware of them. There’s a private or government program for just about anyone, if you’re willing to find help. I’m divorced, and left my first husband with my phone and a backpack. No money. I stayed in shelters and reached out to anyone and everyone who might have known someone or something that could help me. I was able to ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 01:15 AM
1

That’s… not true. You can find work in pretty much any field that is interesting to you. My mother went back to school at 50 for computer science and does software development on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 01:06 PM
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You don’t lose your ability to earn or a chance for independence by staying home. You can go back to school or the workforce at pretty much any age. You can’t get the years back with your children, however. You only get one shot at that, and then it’s gone. I’m a stay at home wife, and I’d argue that I have more of a capacity to earn and more independence than working women. My husband pays for everything, so I can spend my days doing whatever the hell I want to, and the only person I’m beholden…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:05 AM
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It’s definitely hard, especially if the husband doesn’t love his kids. She won’t want to divorce and be left penniless and desperate, and the only “power” she has is if he loves his kids and wants to be in their lives. A lot of these professions take a huge chunk of the man’s life, so he may not be bonded to his kids or care for them. She would have lived a life as a single mom, but at least she had financial support. With divorce, she loses the one benefit of being married. Very sad indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:50 PM
5

There’s other aspects to a relationship aside from sex and companionship. Having children is a big one, and having someone around to take care of those children. We’re now getting to the stage where women don’t need a man for reproduction, we can science our way through needing sperm. We’re not at a stage where we can science our way out of needing a woman/womb, so women are still at the advantage there. Men can elect to not have or participate in children, but women still can. It’ll place women…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 03:27 PM
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Crazy women are often extremely unpredictable, which can be fun. Like working with explosives. You never know what to expect. My husband likes to poke me into acting crazy. I’m pretty well regulated, so it’s just something different. Nothing huge, more pranky than anything. It’s like a game. He’ll bring up a topic that he knows will get me going and disagree just to watch me get mad, or hide my phone, or mess with my stuff. I have a friend with BPD and she’s a lot of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 04:59 AM
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It’s just a trap of the human condition. If only I looked better, if I had more money, if I drove a nicer car, if I hadn’t given up rock climbing, if my mother was nicer, if I hadn’t eaten that first potato chip… Then I would be happy. Then I would get what I want. It’s just not true, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 09:52 PM
2

Yeah that sounds about right, lol! People forget about the sephardic/mizrahi people… they’re MUCH more fun and imo, their food is much better 😜
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/22 04:20 AM
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Be exactly who you are and who you want to be, and add in different flavors as you see fit. These men are reacting to a picture, a moment caught in time and on film. It’s not actually HER that they’re reacting to. They can’t see how she moves, smiles, the glint in her eyes, how she smells and breathes. That is our feminine essence and what is so intoxicating to men. We all have our moments of looking like shit, just as we have our moments of looking insanely beautiful. It can happen in the same …
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/22 12:28 AM
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Jewish/Judaism is both a religion and an ethnicity. There are Jews who come from Northern Africa, for example. They would not be considered white. Israeli Jews would not be considered white. Majority of the Jewish population in America are Ashkenaz, and they tended to come from Eastern Europe and might be considered white. Generations of inter-marriage resulted in their own special genetic anomalies and a look/coloring that is independent from the typical white WASPy characteristics. Genetic cou…
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/22 06:29 PM
2

Remain 21 forever, always. That means that you keep work talk for work, and play dumb and stupid and naïve, and helpless and the damsel in distress. Don’t actually be dumb, but play it when you’re around him. About making him feel like you’re worth providing for: Most guys don’t think that hard about it. And you shouldn’t either. Men fall in love by doing things for you, so the more you LET him do for you, the more he will love you and keep doing it. Paying for things, fixing things, solving pro…
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/22 04:25 AM
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If you’re around the same age, it’s likely. He sees you more as a peer than someone to needs him, someone worth providing for completely. Especially if he knows how much you make. You’re not even married yet. I wouldn’t give him a single penny or pay for anything, if I were in your shoes. If you’re not his wife, anything you give him or not make him pay for will eventually be given to his future wife. Instead, keep it for YOU and YOUR FUTURE FAMILY. It might be with him, it might not, but either…
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/22 02:57 AM
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You might consider looking at your life 10, 15, or 20 years down the line. Think about having kids and grandkids, too. If you live off his income and his income alone, and save yours or put it into wealth building, you can retire early with him. You can have the lifestyle of your dreams in 20 years. You can have more money to leave your kids and grandkids. My husband did what you’re trying to do with his first wife, she wanted to be the higher earning spouse so he kept his money. She burned hers…
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/22 01:07 AM
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Make sure that he is providing the basics for you. The bills should be covered by his salary. House, clothing, transportation, food, medical care. Whether it’s coming from his paycheck or yours, it should be able to be sustained from what he is bringing in. That’ll help with him feeling masculine and like he’s doing a job. If it were me, I would be living off his income and using mine to build wealth. My husband pays for everything, and I live an extremely comfortable life. My money goes to me a…
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/22 11:08 PM
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I’m not a fan, unless he is paying all your bills or doing/paying for big things for you, like large car repairs. Also not a fan of letting him spend time in your house and enjoying your hospitality without being married. I’m married, and have cooked for my husband once. He watched me and learned the recipe, and I’ve never made it again.
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/22 02:19 AM
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It’s very strange and scary to wake up one day, go out in the world, and realize that you are a sex object. It’s startling, to go from playing as a kid to being worried about predators. The first time I remember it happening was in 4th grade. I was at the mall with my grandma in the food court. She suddenly got up and said we needed to leave, because there was a gross old man staring at me and licking his lips. When we left, he rushed to the mens room. I assume it was so he could touch himself. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:27 AM
1

Free spirited, extroverted, and fun. Dead wrong. I much prefer to be the more fun and spontaneous person in the relationship. I take a long time to warm up to a situation, so a surprise trip or an unplanned date or really any uncertainty makes me want to throw up. I’m fussy and particular about the details, so it’s better for me if I do all of the ideas and planning. In return, I always know what I want and what is acceptable for my approval. I’m not wishy-washy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:16 AM
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He sounds like a provider, and a lot of these types get a large amount of personal satisfaction in being the hero. It’s not that he doesn’t want you to work or to be accomplished, it’s that he doesn’t want you to feel like you’re on your own. Like you don’t have support. Remember, guys take things quite literally. You said that you wanted something to fall back on to feel safe, and since he wants to be that “thing”, he took what you said to mean that you don’t trust him to be there for you. That…
/r/RedPillWomen01/04/22 04:32 AM
3

It’s not meant to be taken literally. If you don’t make yourself available, you won’t find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:17 AM
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So so so true. Women do our work in the shadows. Manipulation is our brand.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:01 PM
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You can have a 7 figure income, be 6 feet tall, devilishly handsome and charming and always say the right thing… But absolutely none of that matters if you never leave the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:48 PM
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What I mean by that is to not fight about it, and to not take it personally. I see many women fall into the “communication” hell spiral, where they are obviously at their breaking point and the damage and resentment have already taken over, and they try to convince the other person to see their side. It’s different when it’s your husband, and not a boyfriend. You have to let things go. When it’s a boyfriend, it’s just not worth the energy. That’s just me though
/r/RedPillWomen31/03/22 05:29 AM
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Boundaries aren’t talked about, discussed, explained, or defended. Boundaries are boundaries, and if someone violates yours, then you leave. I will agree that it’s unattractive and annoying, and if I were in your shoes, I would leave him too. It’s gross and brings in a weird dudebro vibe that has no place in a grown up relationship. Poking and playing is a fundamental element to relationships, but we all have our lines that shouldn’t be crossed. My husband and I are allowed to have celebrity/pub…
/r/RedPillWomen30/03/22 07:30 PM
1

Here’s some practical advice, not just for this situation but generally when people say stuff that annoys you. He’s doing it because it gives you an emotional reaction, and then he gets to laugh at you, comfort you, win the argument, or poke more fun at you. It’s triggering his male competition vibe, and he gets to “play” with you. This is pretty normal for men, so it’s nothing personal and imo, not something to make a big deal about. My husband will do it to me all the time… it’s (to the male b…
/r/RedPillWomen30/03/22 06:40 PM
1

I believe that “healing” an attachment wound is an ongoing and forever long process. It gets easier with time, especially when you actually have an attachment with a partner. I was mildly insecure when I met my husband and it took actually getting married to make me feel better. When I start feeling triggered, I am able to calm myself down pretty quickly.
/r/RedPillWomen30/03/22 01:39 PM
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Sure, there’s a possibility of it working out with someone younger. I’m happy for you and don’t think there’s anything wrong with doing things in a way that’s different to me. I’m all about making things as easy as possible, and since OP is 30, she may have more options if she ups the age bracket.
/r/RedPillWomen30/03/22 03:39 AM
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He’s a high risk/high reward type of guy. Loves competing and winning and playing the game. Luckily, I know how to play, so our relationship is extremely fun and mutually satisfying.
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/22 09:38 PM
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This is where finding someone with similar values is important, and where one’s own discretion comes in. I can’t say what is OK for her to do, only she can determine that. You do it through using your feminine wiles and girly magic, that’s it. And it’s supported by having excellent boundaries. If the man asks you for something, you tell him what you need in order to do it. That’s the reciprocity that men understand, and something that a lot of women don’t. If a date asks you to be exclusive, you…
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/22 09:07 PM
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Relationships are an art, not just a science or an algorithm that can be easily followed. As far as I can tell from your post, you haven’t failed at securing a husband. You’ve succeeded at being a girlfriend. That’s good, but you’ve done it in the wrong order. You want to secure the husband first, and then become his girlfriend, and then literally never stop. Don’t settle for being a girlfriend anymore. Don’t do the girlfriend things until you have a proposal and wedding invitations in the mail.…
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/22 07:51 PM
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Talk to yourself, and take your time. Acknowledge that things happened in your past that lead to you having attachment issues, and then remember that you are a grown woman now, and you don’t need to react that way anymore. You have the option to do it differently. Whenever you get the urge to run away or send a nasty text, or go down a spiral of feeling bad and needing to take it out on your friends, family, or partner, write in a journal. Open up the notes app and talk to that. Let out all of y…
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/22 03:45 PM
1

Needy/clingy aren’t the same as being insecure, especially when it comes to self-esteem. Relationships work far better when the man is slightly more clingy than the woman, and when the man loves the woman more. Most relationship complaints center around “the man isn’t doing ENOUGH”, so when a guy puts you on a pedestal and moves mountains to make you happy, that already eliminates most of the problems. You can actually move to a feeling of safety. I make about 97% of the household/relationship d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 09:00 PM
1

Whatever helps you sleep at night
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:03 PM
1

Which part, exactly? Do you not believe in science and empirical facts? Biology? Sociology, psychology?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:51 PM
1

There’s truth to it. Women are the light of the world, and feminine energy is incredibly powerful. When women in the group aren’t happy, it makes everyone else feel uncomfortable. When we do feel happy, it totally changes the dynamic and brings the vibes up. Women getting special treatment and worshipped is a good thing, and society and the human race depends on that. Not just for young women who are fertile, but older women too. Men are supposed to compete for women. Men are supposed to serve a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 01:15 PM
2

Totally makes sense. I stopped dating men around my age when I was in my early 20s, I felt like I was constantly pulling them along and forced into a mothering type of role. Not a good loving role, but like I had a little toddler who wouldn’t listen to me and needed help. It was constant anxiety. My husband is 13 years older than me, I’m in my 20s and he’s in his 40s, and the dynamic is totally different. I can actually relax now and not feel like I need to take the reins. I seem to have made it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:24 AM
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The wall is a made up concept IMO. I know plenty of women in their 30s, 40s, and even 50s and 60s who are full of vibrancy and extremely sexy. Some women will stop caring about their looks and their overall health, and they may encounter more problems in the dating market, but at the end of the day… a woman is a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:55 AM
1

100% of people on this planet were created by and brought into this world by a woman. Our first bond and connection is with the woman who birthed us. Our very survival depended upon making mother happy. Safety, comfort, warmth, security, food, shelter, protection. Of course women are worshipped, and it’s how it should be! Unhappy women don’t have babies, and we need babies to further the human race. Men worship women, women worship women, society worships women. That’s just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 11:49 PM
1

I get that, he’s aware of the social climate and has developed some pretty good boundaries around that. When I see him slipping into that territory, I’ll check him on it, and he will course correct. We have a lot of discussions about how women feel when navigating through the world, so he generally leads with compassion, and we will go over certain scenarios and talk about what went wrong or what could have gone better. He does the same for me. We are watching love is blind, and we will pause an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 08:29 PM
1

Totally get that, but it’s very different coming from a group of grown adults who have established lives and something substantial to offer as help. One of my married girlfriends was trying to rent a car to drive out of town for a race, but couldn’t find one that was big enough. He let her drive his car and even got it set up for a long drive. Put in a car cooler and shit to make the dog comfortable. He’s constantly going out to do handyman work for friends, neighbors, family, friends of friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:20 PM
1

Not really. He’s a good guy. He’ll be the first one to offer help to my friends and family, neighbors, etc. He does everything that I need him to, so it’s not like it’s taking anything away from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 04:00 PM
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I find a well timed dark joke to be very attractive. Doing it all the time is exhausting and uncomfortable for me. My husband took a 20 out of my wallet and I asked what he was doing, and he said that he was going for a run, and needed cash in case he got raped. Then he paused and then said it was to pay for the pleasure. I started laughing because I was picturing him getting raped by another man, and then handing over money and saying thank you. I asked him if it was a man raping him, and of co…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:44 AM
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I wanted to add to this… he will try to take up as much of the emotional “space” in the relationship as he can. Will compete for empathy and comfort, and want an endless supply of praise and admiration. They need to be coddled and protected, and need everything to be done for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 04:53 AM
2

Yes, that’s implied through the words I chose to employ ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:47 PM
2

They also like it when women are clear about what the problem is, so they have a better shot at fixing it. Maybe that’s what they mean by solution-oriented as well. My husband quite good at reading the emotions of the women in his life, and I believe that most men ARE, but they bypass the niceness and warmth and just go straight to the solution. It can come off almost like an attack sometimes, or even worse if it doesn’t land right. I had been talking about how annoying it is to wash my very lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:14 PM
4

Men, or at least the ones I know, aren’t good at providing emotional comfort to women. When they do try, it can come off as cold and heartless or extremely clunky… the “fix it” part of their brain will eventually kick in and solutions come out. Nothing wrong with that, but it takes two VERY conscious people to make that work. They want a woman who can do both the emotional comfort AND have a solution mindset. They want a woman who will give them hugs, and then also give them a pep talk to motiva…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 07:43 PM
1

Sure, but once again… what he chooses to do with his body is not my problem or responsibility. I’m in favor of marriage and maintaining the health of a long term relationship, so if I’m not doing something that my husband wants me to do, it’s his responsibility to come up with a solution. Not mine. If he decides to cheat, or use porn, or otherwise move outside of the marriage, then he is choosing whatever natural consequences come with that. If he chooses to ask me what is bothering me and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:01 PM
1

I hope you feel better soon!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 07:46 PM
1

If people don’t place a “cost of entry” to the things that they do, then they don’t value them, and freely give and take. Whether conscious or subconscious, the need to earn things is part of our DNA. There’s nothing wrong with that, people can get whatever personal/spiritual satisfaction they need by freely giving and taking, but it doesn’t work for me. He didn’t get to have sex with me until we were married. He doesn’t get to have sex with me if I’m unhappy or stressed about something or busy.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 07:09 PM
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You seem to be over intellectualizing what I said. We are a married couple, a functioning family unit. We have weekly meetings to go over our schedules for the next week, plan meals, appointments, projects, and to address problems with the family unit. He knows that I hate pumping gas and I hate cooking and grocery shopping. He decided those are his jobs, and since it’s something that I absolutely hate doing, HE IS DOING ME A FAVOR. He is taking on extra responsibilities to make my life easier. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:15 PM
0

You seem to be missing the algorithm or something like that. If a man is approaching a woman for sex, it’s implied that he wants something from her. Her time, for one. Her attention, for two. Access to her body, for three. That means that he is at her mercy to give him what he wants. He is not entitled to her body, time, attention, and energy. That is rape. If she makes the first move, then she is also in that same position. If she wants to have sex, then he has the right to say no, or say not n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 06:10 AM
1

It’s just as bad, if not worse, when a man is single. It’s the time when he has the most freedom to pursue his dreams, work hard, and better himself. Why risk your own sexual and reproductive health (death grip, ED, compulsive behavior, addiction, etc) for such little reward? Sex used as a transaction is a tale as old as time. If the woman says “I won’t have sex with you until you do x”, it’s well within her right to say so, and an inherent trait of the female species. It’s difficult to have fun…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 04:37 AM
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I agree with what you said, and the moral stance of FDS. It’s gross on many levels. When I picture a man watching porn, it immediately reminds me of a “peeping Tom” energy. It’s creepy. It takes away from the fun and playfulness of what sexy relationships are like. Porns not real, it’s not how things actually go. It’s manufactured and fake, like eating McDonald’s when you have the option to cook from home. Watching a baseball game on your phone while sitting at Yankee stadium. I know that with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 07:39 PM
3

Any kind of hobby is attractive, it shows me that they have something to occupy their mind and a general interest in something “more”. I have a personal rule that I don’t date musicians, artists, or other creative types. I’m very creative myself, and I’ve found that it brings forward a lot of competitive energy. I want to be the whimsical, emotional, and sensitive one. I want to do the designing and the translation and the transformations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 08:05 PM
1

Totally. I’m not resentful because of it, but there were many instances where kids would be dumped on my lap and I couldn’t get my own things done. I’m sure the boys had similar situations, where they had to drop everything to help rake leaves or do a project, but the stakes are a little higher when you have a little life to take care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 07:55 PM
2

I have brothers, and things were pretty equitable. I was never asked to do physical things, but was always volunteered to babysit. They never had to clean, but always had to do yard work. They had a LOT more leniency around curfew, getting good grades, going out with friends, not going to family functions, and attending parties. one of them got a DUI at 16 and almost killed his girlfriend, but no one seemed to be all that upset at his actions. I didn’t have that, but I got more focused attention…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:50 AM
0

Yes, it is possible. If that’s the only thing on your list, you can find a woman who wants you in a strictly sexual way. That’s like, the bare minimum. You will be fighting with each other about everything, have no common goals, no common values, and she will not be there for you. But you’ll have someone who thinks you’re good looking enough to use your penis to get off on. Don’t have an orgasm? Not her problem. Tired? Not her problem. Stressed out because your parents just died? Who cares. If t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:15 PM
3

Exactly. This is my theory… they are still putting women on a pedestal, and they know it, and are pissed about it. “Women aren’t traditional, and therefore I’m not traditional” is 100% being submissive to the woman!! They’re waiting for the feminine to tell them what to do, and who to be, and how to exist in the world. This gets into energy dynamics and is very nuanced, but I think it’s a great insight into the male psyche. They’re pissed because they came into the world because of women, and ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 03:32 PM
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Probably not. I’m 1000% serious. He’s an engineer and a total dork. I love him, he’s my hero and a rockstar in my eyes, but absolutely eccentric and so so so dorky. He had a full on Bob Ross fro as a youth and literally has conjoined toes. I’ve seen him on the dance floor, and it’s a sight to behold. But he loves us, his family, and works so hard for us. Nothing but respect for the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:02 AM
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Well, let me explain. Traditional men and traditional women go together. They get married, have children, and do the white picket fence. They usually have similar values, generally discussed in the dating period, or they meet in common circles. Sunday dinner with mutual friends, or a church group, or maybe a parent has a friend with a kid around the same age. They meet in high value locations, like farmers markets or a volunteer event, personal development seminars, local events, etc. You’re not…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:43 AM
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Yes, he did. He chose his degree and career based on the salary, and spent his high school and college years actually studying to get good grades, and then went to work and did the grind. He spent his best years building for his future wife and family, and it paid off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:28 AM
3

Strength, generosity, kindness, and decisiveness. I love men and I love masculinity. When I’m around a man who is fully in his masculine energy, I feel so relaxed! My hubby can sense when I’m getting worked up about something and knows exactly what I need to diffuse it. It’s wonderful. He is a wonderful caretaker. Makes sure that I’m eating, drinking water, have money in my pocket for whatever I want or need. I mean literally, he will go to the ATM and fill up my wallet every week. It’s so great…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 03:49 AM
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Traditionalism isn’t gone, not by a long shot. Majority of the red pill people I have encountered aren’t victims of modernity when they wanted traditionalism. They were never candidates for a traditional relationship or woman in the first place. How many of these fools actually put themselves in the position to be a full provider? Went to college, got the degree, bought the house, and set up a nest that a traditional woman would be impressed by? How many had something substantial to offer up or …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 03:33 AM
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Men seem to not know the difference between drag makeup and normal makeup, lol. Normal makeup = no makeup Drag makeup = wearing makeup Blue eyeshadow = too much makeup No makeup = sickly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:29 AM
2

Lol, that’s a funny idea. Sadly, a lot of makeup is full of ingredients that make it difficult to remove with just water. I can shower with fake eyelashes on, and they will still look great when I’m done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:25 AM
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Women have worn makeup for thousands of years. Adorning, beautifying, and preening/grooming our bodies has been a human trait for even longer. If you look at a woman and assume that she has purple and gold eyelids NATURALLY…. That’s your own problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:25 PM
1

Sure, it’s different, but comparing the two is like comparing apples to oranges. Women thrive on being praised. Men thrive on filling a space.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 11:21 PM
1

Variety is a need for both men AND women. It’s a fundamental human need. Same goes for validation. We are social creatures, after all, and rely on relationships and emotional intimacy in order to feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 11:05 PM
2

It sends a message of lightness and playfulness in a buttoned-up world. Dancing is also incredibly sensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 03:40 AM
6

Most don’t, but one of the sad “side effects” of a woman who cheats is that the other men get even more protective, borderline controlling. Also adds to the loneliness and isolation that girls have to go through. For instance, I couldn’t have any type of cordial relationships or friendships with any of his friends or coworkers. Everything was kept at a distance, either by my ex or by the men themselves. At our last base, I literally never met a single one of his friends or coworkers, and by defa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:59 AM
4

Former military wife: most of these girls have been taken care of their whole adult lives. The military takes care of pretty much everything, especially if they live on base. Never had to worry about “worldly” problems, like medical bills or not having enough money for things. The men are ultra masculine and protective, so naturally they go for ultra feminine and sweet women. I can only speak for myself, but I can say that 80-90% of the other married men I knew were absolute “simps” for their wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:06 AM
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A lot of people have forgotten about basic politeness and treating people with kindness… especially their partners. There’s a HUGE difference between “this house is fucking disgusting and it’s all YOUR FAULT” vs “Hey honey, I’ve noticed that the house is getting out of control. What can we can do about it?” He gets to take the lead on a project, I get to have my needs met, win/win.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:24 AM
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I’m not anti man, and you’ll find that most women don’t hate men or think that all men are bad. Read through my response one more time, and you’ll find that you pretty much said what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:04 PM
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Women are having children, AND they are acting like the cool aunt to other women, who will also be treated in a certain way, and then teach their children to be treated a certain way. Change takes time, and it’s weird and uncomfortable and awkward, but that’s just how it goes. We only have 3, maybe 4 generations of women who actually had rights… and in that time, women went from secretaries to CEOs. From receptionists to scientists. And they had children while doing it! A lot of women are waitin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 10:45 PM
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Tbh, one woman can light the fire of 1000 women, and each of those women can light the fire of another 1000 women, and so on. We not only upgrade the beliefs of our children, but we upgrade the beliefs of our peers, friends, grandmothers, aunts, neighbors, and even women we meet out in the world. Of course, the most powerful impact is on our own children… but even then, they will grow up to have their own beliefs challenged by others. Continuously.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:54 PM
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If people are allowed to get married for any reason, they should be allowed to divorce for any reason. Is it a good idea, or the right thing to do? Not always… but in my opinion, people are able to grow and change and things will turn out alright in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:39 PM
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Absolutely true!! Masculinity is strength, femininity is power. Women have forgotten that we are the undertow, the deep ocean, the cosmos, and that our girl magic is so incredibly potent and should not be given out for free. It drives men absolutely crazy. My husband steals my hair scrunchies to sniff, I found his secret stash by his desk lol. My scrunchies. I stole them back, of course, cause even he doesn’t get that for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:14 AM
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Like I said, it’s two sides of the same coin. I’m a woman and have actually dated men who identified as red pill, and I’m simply commenting on my experience. One guy had a massive complex about how he needed to be the “alpha”, and it lead to some very interesting encounters. I had just gotten home from a monthlong stint in the hospital after a terrible motorcycle accident, and he visited me, which was very nice… but then he demanded that I cook him dinner, because I needed to provide something i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:47 PM
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The question wasn’t “what are women doing to perpetuate and/or contribute to this disaster”, that’s a discussion for a whole different thread. The thing is… men are great, exactly the way they are. So sweet and so romantic and funny and awesome. Amazing caregivers and fathers. And then it gets messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:21 AM
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I hear you! Women have forgotten that our biggest job in society is to simply be pleasant to be around. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:58 AM
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I completely agree with you there… but if you want certain things from your partner, you have to make sure that you are doing your job as well. I see men saying that they want a submissive and feminine woman, without being the kind of man that a feminine woman would be willing to submit to. Submission requires courage and trust, and a whole lot of work on the man’s side. I can’t imagine a feminine woman who would accept a relationship with a man who wasn’t a provider. If we think about it logica…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:36 AM
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People are shitty and can be shitty no matter what… Trust me, I’m very aware of the shitty treatment of men by women, society, the media, and everything else. I’m not blaming men for doing things wrong or being “bad”, I’m all about inspiring men to be better. Cause I’m a woman, and I’m using my power for good. I have brothers and a father and a husband with sons, and I KNOW that 99.999% of men just want to do the right thing and win and make us happy. To be the good guy, the hero, as so much of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:43 AM
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I agree with some, but not all. I believe that men and women are different, but it gets super complicated and nuanced when it goes deeper than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:25 AM
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Of course! I definitely agree with you there. So many things are done online now, and people are too busy with their own stuff to actually be present when they do go out. I’m the type of woman who will talk to and flirt with anyone and everyone, and it drives my husband crazy! Just tonight we were on a flight, and there was a young man sitting next to me. I offered him a freaking chicken tender and told him we’re a family now, and we’re having family dinner. He laughed of course. It’s all about …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:15 AM
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It’s never been easy. The most successful marriages all started the same way, you know? Two broken people, not really knowing what their place is in the world, full of wishful thinking and bitter disappointment when those dreams don’t play out. But you just carry on. We all want the same thing, after all! Even Elon Musk hates sleeping alone, and wants a woman to be a companion against the loneliness. My guy was on paid dating sites and seeing professional matchmakers for 6-7 years, and then we m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:13 AM
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Sure, all of that is true… and we’re still the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:15 AM
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Trust me, I feel for men. It’s a joke the way men are treated in society and the media. I was talking to my hubby about this last night, about the portrayal of the bumbling idiot dad trope, the dad that needs mommy to save the day lol. It’s ridiculous! Women aren’t being taught to look for the right things anymore, I agree with you there. My guy gets his clothes on Amazon prime and I shave his bald head. I’m the feminine pole and he’s the masculine pole. He gets all the credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:15 AM
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Who am I? Someone who can see the effects of this happening in real life. In my culture, men aren’t allowed to touch a woman he is not married to. Not even to shake hands. In fact, if a man catcalls a woman or eyes her up and down, he’s likely to get his ass kicked by her father and brothers. If he is to marry a woman, he must be able to provide for her and a family completely. We check documents, transcripts, tax returns, deeds. We talk to family members and check the family history. He’s expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:49 AM
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So so so true. Our bodies are designed to be serviced, pleasured, adored, and taken care of. That’s just how it is. The male body is designed to do all of that, at their expense. The sperm chases the egg. She just sits there. I wish I could tell these idiots that they’re doing it all wrong, but whatever lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:55 PM
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So you are certainly being a productive member of society, good for you! That’s what being a protector and provider IS. You’re not protecting me, you’re doing that for society at large. I’m talking specifically about the men who aren’t doing any of that, and spend their days chasing after women and trying to “be” the kind of man that women want to sleep with, and absolutely nothing more. The message that I got from your reply is “thanks Red pill for giving me the permission to be a lazy person”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:35 PM
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No one is owed anything, or deserves anything in this life. Nature and society is cruel and to be human is to be ruthless. Society depends on men to be protectors and providers, otherwise it’s chaos. Society can either be nice and civilized, and we can have wonderful advancement in technology and whatever else, or we can have people behaving as animals and beating each other in the streets. I’m in favor of civility.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:27 PM
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“Not all men” is implied. There’s the RP that sends the message to be better and do better, and there’s the RP that sends the message to fuck as many women as possible and YOLO because women are trash. The first message is good, I’m talking about the second message here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:17 PM
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If you’re not a protector or a provider, then who are you? What are you contributing to society? What is your life’s mission? No goals, no ambition, no drive, nothing to leave for future generations… that is a beta man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:06 PM
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Study relationship dynamics, and use your RP knowledge to be in service to women. Do things that will not only benefit men, but women, and the future generations. Spinning plates is fine, so long as it is dating, and not mating. You’re shooting yourselves in the foot by sleeping around, because when you do encounter a woman of spectacular value, she won’t want anything to do with you. My husband did not want to sleep with me until we were married, because he knows that women will overlook certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:03 PM
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It’s given men weird complexes, and put them into their heads way more than they need to be. Men who would “naturally” be good guys and do the right thing are now becoming predatory towards women, rather than using those instincts to be protectors and providers. That is damaging to women, and further perpetuates the “problem” that these men are trying to “correct”. If you’re not doing your job to be a man, then you can’t expect to have a submissive and feminine woman as your partner. You can’t e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:02 PM
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Exactly. So many women assume that men are just stupid, and need to be taught. They forget about what’s actually going on, and 9/10 times he simply doesn’t care. It’s not worth investing the time to learn, when he’s just using your body as a masturbation tool. Like duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 08:57 PM
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I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:17 PM
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I don’t go to nightclubs looking for men. Men in nightclubs are low value, at least in my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:06 PM
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The algorithm is still the same. If a woman is interested or curious about you in a nightclub setting, she will let that be known. She will put herself in front of you, or present some kind of invitation for you to approach. From there, if you find her attractive, approach her. Ask if you can buy her a drink, or whatever. I’ve never been to a nightclub or done hookups so I don’t know. Then you strike up a conversation, find out things about her, and then you wait for the invitation. You can ask …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:38 PM
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The general algorithm is simple. I tell him what I want, and he will come up with a solution. I said I was getting kind of bored with our usual coffee routine, and let it be. He came back later on in the day with a new coffee machine and coffee flavors. He didn’t ask me for advice or to explain more or to help… he just did it, and surprised me. I asked if he wanted to watch the tinder swindler on Netflix, he said yes, and then he researched more con artist shows and downloaded them. We watched t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:04 PM
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Totally true. We have conversations about this all the time, especially when we notice that one of us is stuck on a particular problem or pattern of thinking. How much of this is real, and how much of it is petty suffering, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:01 AM
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How sweet!! It’s truly the little things that count.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:14 AM
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I will agree that his ultimate happiness is not my responsibility, nor is it anyones. I have firm boundaries and very little tolerance for nonsense, and I don’t put up with complaining. In the situation you described, I would just continue on my life as normal and do things that support his desires to lose weight… ie, not buying junk food, cooking healthy meals when I cook, being considerate when around him (not eating treats or whatever), and just continue on living my life. If he comes to me f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:11 AM
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It’s not as simple as doing x, y, and z to make your partner happy. It’s doing all those things, plus more, sometimes dropping the x, sometimes changing them up, and doing those consistently every single day. For the rest of your life. It’s beyond a job. It’s an obligation, a non-negotiable. He’s a grown man and totally capable of handling his own coffee in the morning, but I still get up and make it for him, and then go the fuck back to sleep. It makes his day better to have a nice sweet thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:18 PM
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I totally get you. There’s a lot of layers to it, and I feel that the majority of flack that I get actually comes from women, much more than men. My dad is delighted that I’m well taken care of. My brothers are happy that their little baby sister is going to be safe. Women on the other hand… we’ve lived in fear for a long, long time. Fear of men, fear of society, fear of making the wrong move. Now that I’m actually in a position of true safety, I can look around and see that most women are in to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:28 PM
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Totally agree. I’m happy to live in a society with good men!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 05:59 PM
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It’s not nice or pleasant or PC to talk about it. I’m a woman and in a hypergamous relationship, and I get tons of flack from friends and family and people out in the world. I went the way of biology. He’s older, well established, preselected (divorced, with children), and I still get shit. Whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 05:57 PM
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If you are to only consider the animal aspect of our species, then yes. The ability to reproduce is a characteristic that all living things have. It’s what makes humans no different than a dog, or a fly, or a virus, even. But dogs don’t lead global change. Flies don’t explore space. Viruses don’t come together to rescue a young viral cell who fell into a well. We have our consciousness and sentience and sense of self.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 05:52 PM
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Biology is a large factor in the way we humans operate, but we are also conscious beings. We have an awareness about our lizard brains, and therefore have the ability to override them. Women are expected to do this, therefore men should be as well. It’s what makes society function.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:46 PM
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It can sound like that, but he’s the one who brought it up. He gets pretty uncomfortable when I do things for him, and feels like I’m taking away his opportunity to provide. Like I said before, his job is pretty mental focused and he likes doing stuff with his hands. Right now, it’s 20 degrees out and I’m enjoying the heat from inside while he is chopping down a tree. He told me to sleep in and relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 06:38 PM
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It can sound like that, but he’s the one who brought it up. He likes being in control and having things done his way, so I let him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 06:06 PM
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He is a man and has more energy than me. He is physically and emotionally stronger than I am. We have distinct biological differences between the two of us, and it just makes logical sense for it to be this way. We believe in science and biology and recognize that from an evolutionary standpoint, he is meant to WORK and PROVIDE, and he gets a great amount of his personal pride and feeling success.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 10:07 PM
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I’m not really FDS minded, but I’m in a relationship that you describe. He does the breadwinning and pays for everything, including my shopping and self care and whatever else. He does 70-80% of the cooking and the cleaning. His job is very mental focused, so he needs to do something with his hands every day. We don’t make a ton of messes, so cleaning is very straightforward and only takes a few minutes each day. Our house is kept at a good 95% clean. He’s learned that when I’m stressed out or t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 09:19 PM
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A lot of the laws and rituals and practices closely follow what science is now discovering to be “true”. When women feel comfortable and safe, they are happier and less likely to be terrible. When men have clearly defined obligations to their wife, family, and community, they are happier and less likely to be terrible too. Who would have thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:09 PM
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Love to see yet another man who can’t read.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 12:04 AM
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Men and women are fundamentally different. What a man brings to the table (if he’s a provider, and the sole breadwinner) is tangible. Money. What a woman brings (if she’s not bringing in her own income) is intangible. Those cases of alimony are largely because the couple has been married for 20+ years, and the woman stayed at home to raise children and support his career. If the man is the primary breadwinner, that means he is working most of the day. Children require 24/7 care, from getting sic…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 11:49 PM
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For one, people usually enter into business contracts with another person/entity because they need what the other person has to offer. Business A has the IP, business B has the manufacturing capabilities. Who contributed more… the idea, or the product? Can’t have one without the other. Most business ventures have contracts that are extremely similar to divorce, lol. You pay up front for the other person’s contribution, you give them royalties or a percentage of sales, you give them equity in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 10:37 PM
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Definitely! There’s weird stuff in every culture, and it’s not always as it seems. What some see as oppressive is seen as empowering, and vice versa. Women wear dresses and cover our hair, but honestly… pants seem so restrictive and uncomfortable. I don’t want other men to be creeping on me, or even looking at me unless I am benefiting from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:55 PM
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Orthodox Judaism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:48 PM
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Orthodox Judaism. It’s encoded since infancy, really. Men and boys have to earn everything, and women are taken care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:39 PM
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The perks for men aren’t taught to women, not as a way to control, but because it’s just not our problem to worry about. It’s taught that you shouldn’t take on additional obligations until you’re able to perform your own obligations perfectly… so regarding sex, it’s the man’s obligation to satisfy his wife, and sex is considered “her” benefit, and all about her. The men and boys are taught to treat women like queens and goddesses, so they don’t often have sex with prostitutes or have a woman on …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:14 PM
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Well… the men are obligated to pay and provide for her, and she does whatever she wants. She is under no obligations to have children, and maintaining the house is the obligation of both men and women. It’s taught that men are benefiting from even being in the same room as a woman. So they must pay and take care of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:17 PM
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It’s interesting to me, I come from a culture where it’s known and expected that women and men have different needs in a relationship. The man pretty much pays the woman to marry him, presents her with a contract of the things he will do for her, and doesn’t get anything in return. The woman is the only one who receives, even as far as the wedding ring. If she wants to work, her salary is hers alone. The divorce rates are minute, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:36 AM
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So true, at least from what I’ve noticed. Can’t blame them for wanting the best of all worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:00 AM
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Whatever works for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:07 AM
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If the only women you’re dating are women who have 20+ bodies and are less financially stable, then once again, this is a you problem. I know more high-achieving and chaste women than the women you describe, women who are ready and excited to get married and have a family. I’m an old hag at 26, however, and college educated. Where are you looking for women? Clubs, bars, online? You know the old saying that birds of a feather flock together… high quality women aren’t hanging out at those spots. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:34 AM
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What age range are you looking at? How old are you, and are you ready for marriage? Like actually ready? Do you have a good job, a house, car, and are you actively paying down any debt that you have? Those things are attractive to women who are wanting to get married and have children. If you’re in your early-mid 20s and still building your nest, the problem might actually be with you, and not them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 12:16 AM
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What woman lol The wife and mother type, the prostitute, which one?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:08 PM
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It all depends on what you are looking for. When you make what you want overly complicated, obviously it’s not going to work! If you’re looking for a woman to have sex with, the obvious choice is to hire a prostitute. She will have sex with you. If you want a cheap one, you’ll find her. Hot one, it’ll cost you more. If you’re looking for a wife and mother to your children, obviously you will have to look for different things. You can’t look for her at the club. Women will have different criteria…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:21 PM
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Love is so so so real! Sex may be a large component, especially at the beginning of some relationships, but it changes over time. Love is taking care of your partner when they are sick, helping them through death and illness among family members, coping through a pandemic and job loss. Even little things, like giving your partner the last bite of your favorite dessert. I love love, haha. It’s just so sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:34 PM
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Totally. I’m a chick, and literally hate texting more than anything. Huge turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:31 PM
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Totally right - I hated that when I used the apps. If you’re a busy person, or coming up on a busy period… deactivate your profile, you know? Or say “I’m going through a busy period, I won’t be available for a date until x day” Ugh, so sorry that this dating culture is something that we both have to be apart of.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:27 PM
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Being married to a man easily becomes more stress than it’s worth. It has to come with significant benefits, especially when a woman has been single for a while. There are things that women are fussy about, that men have never even considered and don’t even care about lol. It’s a ton of work to get him trained to do things my way, you know? He wants to be helpful and do my laundry for me, for instance. I’m incredibly fussy about my clothes, I check the labels for things, hand-wash, line dry, iro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 12:14 AM
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Texting isn’t a way to show or receive interest. Texting is a communication tool, and should be used as minimally as possible. Spend actual time together, go on dates, be around each other in person, and use that as your guide for whether or not she is interested. If you’re going to be apart for a while but still want to connect, FaceTime or call her to chat for a bit. Let her hear your voice and see your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 11:51 PM
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Well, one of the absolute CORNERSTONES of human beings, and especially men, is that we conserve energy whenever we can. Some call it laziness. Life was not easy for us, lol. And men had to use a ton of energy to go out and fight or hunt… so, when a problem presented itself, the men would wait until the last possible second before taking action. This is still evident today, I’m dating a healthy masculine guy and he waits until I’m in the car and we’re DRIVING to ask me where I want to go for dinn…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:49 AM
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Edit: I didn’t read your comment all the way lol oops
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:21 AM
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Everyone has a totally different definition of what equality means. Most people don’t have the language or capability to express their feelings/opinions in an articulate way. To a lot of men, the concept that a woman would be equal to them is insulting. They think that being a man is better, and women are to be subservient to them. It’s wounding to their ego when a woman (who is in their mind, weak and stupid) is to walk into work and be able to perform at or near their level. They can use their…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:13 PM
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Men have never had power in the dating world. Women have always had multiple options, and chose the best one. It’s not as if 20, 30, or 50 years ago (before social media, online dating, makeup, onlyfans, feminism, whatever) there were women chasing after men. A woman could be engaged within a day and married in a week, all she had to do was to show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:04 PM
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When all is said and done, we only have a couple hours each day to “couple” and be romantic. He works, we have to cook and do chores and handle householding stuff, and whatever else we have on the schedule. Then we have to have our respective introvert time, and then go to bed. It’s his job to respond to my feminine wiles and seduction, to keep the romance alive, and to keep things alive. It’s my job, too, but it’s just DIFFERENT as a woman and the feminine pole of the relationship. I open up op…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:00 PM
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Women are smaller than men. Less muscle. Higher body fat. Less white matter in the brain, so slower reflexes. More estrogen, so softer skin. Physically weaker, less able to hunt and defend against large predators. Less able to hunt large game. It’s amplified 100 fold while pregnant, as we are even weaker than before, all while needing more resources like food and water to sustain ourselves and the growing life inside of us. This continues on during later stages of pregnancy, where we have even l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:42 PM
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It’s important to remember that men and women are not the same, but reciprocals. Compliments. Our biological imperative is not the same. It’s not in the best interests of the woman to have sex and breed with a man who cannot protect and provide for her. It’s a deadly decision. Strong and healthy “alpha” men have better ingredients to keep us safe. It’s better to attract him while ovulating, when we are more attractive. It’s a bad idea to reproduce with him, or anyone else, as it puts us into an …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:15 PM
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More and more studies are showing the opposite of what you said about ovulation… the suggestion that women have higher libido around ovulation and are more attracted to men might be false. Women are more attractive TO men during this time, for obvious reasons. Higher estrogen = glowing skin, shiny hair, and fertile pheromones. This has somehow been translated into women being more interested in sex, when it’s really the time where she’s most interested in selecting a mate. Testosterone is highes…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:14 AM
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There’s mother aspects to being a wife, sure. Being a caretaker has it’s place in a marriage. Not mommy mode, where you do everything for him like he was a child, but the sweet and kind and gentle mode. When my guy is having an emotional problem, all I need to do is hold him and gently stroke his back or head for a few minutes and then he’s good. Just like I would do for a girlfriend or a toddler or a puppy or a plant lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:35 PM
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Makes sense, and I think you’re right. I wasn’t disagreeing with you, just adding to and agreeing!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:54 PM
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The makeup thing is more of a ritual than a routine/seeking an objective for a lot of women. This concept of “doing for the enjoyment of the experience” is often foreign to men. It’s truly the realm of the feminine, in my opinion. I drink coffee for the caffeine boost, but I go to Starbucks and get my special drink for the experience. I brush my teeth and shower to maintain personal hygiene, but I use special lotion and products that smell good because it makes the mundane act more fun. I fight …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:27 PM
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It’s a simple problem, and it’s got nothing to do with men, women, society, or anything. It’s just statistics, and people lie with statistics all they want in order to meet their own agenda. You can math yourself into a corner, and you can still be surprised by the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:10 AM
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Female relationships can be both the most fulfilling and the most terrifying experiences, and I say that as a woman. We see each other as the reflection of our own personal wounds, and I feel like that is where the “competition” and “adversity” comes in to play. To act or make choices that are outside of the status quo are interpreted as a massive betrayal, to the relationship or the community or to the feminine at large. We are ALL trying to protect each other, and protect ourselves too. It’s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:49 PM
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A prenup isn’t a legal contract though. It’s simply an agreement between two people, filed at the courthouse. One could say it has just slightly more legal power than a pinkie promise. You don’t need a judge to sign off on a prenup and order that it shall be done when you file it. Even marriage licenses are just that… a license. There are no legal orders put in place when you sign the document. Divorce decrees are a different matter, because it is an actual legal contract and actual judgments ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:03 PM
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Binding contracts are overturned every day… that’s literally what a divorce IS. Courts have the opinion that men and women are equal in the eyes of the law, and it’s assumed that both parties are reasonable, entered into the marriage with the intention of staying married, and therefore any and all contributions were made for the benefit of both parties. It’s literally as non-discriminatory as it gets lol. I suppose we are more or less in agreement that men who are afraid of relationships and mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 08:01 PM
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Just curious, how exactly is it discriminatory? Divorce court and judges are there to be the decision makers about the things that the couple don’t agree on. 90% of divorces are settled out of court, and most of those don’t involve any sort of big legal enterprise. There are arbiters and mediators and like 8 opportunities to keep things out of the courtroom. Splitting everything that was built together down the middle is literally as logistically fair as you can get, especially in an unfair worl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:19 AM
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These posts are so hilarious to me. Y’all don’t understand divorce laws. Separate property remains separate property after divorce. That means assets and liabilities, so if you purchase a house, car, stock portfolio, boat, business, or any other major purchase before getting married, it remains yours after you divorce. Credit card debt, student loan debt, and medical debt follow the same rules. If you use funds that were earned during marriage to, say, remodel the house you purchased and pay the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:51 AM
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It depends on your idea of improvement and how you define it. Men can improve a woman’s life by providing tangible solutions to her problems. Good men will do their best to give her what she desires, too. If she needs a house, he can buy it for her. Stuck jars, changing lightbulbs, cooking a meal, fixing the broken shit. Paying for her to go to therapy or school if she needs it. Standing up for her when her voice isn’t being heard. Men enjoy being helpful and it’s a genuine need in order for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:46 AM
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Improving for the sake of improving is a concept that doesn’t make sense to men, imo. It’s a foreign concept and goes against the millions of years of evolution that made men be outcome oriented. Men have been, and will be, obsessed with women and obsessed with attracting women, from dusk till dawn. It’s a feminine characteristic and feminine energy concept, that men are trying to embody, and failing at… for good reason, imo. Men were not designed to put themselves first, and the few men in our …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:08 AM
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Wow, that’s amazing!! The human body is seriously incredible! I worked with a woman who waited until she was in her mid-30s to have kids, and she had 4 kids in 4 years. Kinda makes sense when you think about it… get all of the pregnancy stuff done and out of the way, assembly line of sorts lol. Deal with the baby weight and nursing bras and weird hormones for a few years and then close the chapter. I was talking more along the lines of what the eggplant OP said re: IVF/fertility. It can take lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 06:47 PM
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Women are fertile every month, so long as they have a period, and no other underlying health condition. It’s not like once a woman hits 35 she only ovulates 3x in a year. There’s a percentage of women (I think 15%?) who are just infertile, and don’t find out until they are trying to get pregnant, and happen to be over 35. I suppose the only problem here is less time, but it’s not like the old days where you needed lots of children to help support the family and to adjust for infant mortality. 2 …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 06:40 AM
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It’s a feeling, after all. One woman can feel sexy and attractive in a short skirt, and another can feel the same way when she’s covered from head to toe. Some women feel empowered by the “mystery” of dressing modestly, that their skin and hair and outline of their figure is SO private that only the man they marry gets to see. Some feel empowered by letting it all be seen. Cultural norms also exist, and can dictate what is considered appropriate and not appropriate. It would look a little strang…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 07:36 PM
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If you look at it solely from carefully chosen statistics, then sure, there is no hope. You get to choose your struggle and also what you have to offer. You get to choose how big your pool of options are. If you decide that you are ugly, uninteresting, broke, and mean… and you want a good virgin girl who is a 10, comes with money, and will give you abundant sex without any of the bad shit that comes with relationships… you will be alone, until she comes along. Unrealistic expectations go both wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 07:45 AM
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Sure, sometimes he will ask me to do stuff and I’m happy to do it. I pick out his clothes and make sure they’re clean and ironed and sometimes I pack lunch. I took his car in to get fixed. Little stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:45 AM
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Yeah. Happy wife, happy life. Edit: I’m not terrible, like I’m not going to ask for ridiculous things. When I want money to go shopping, I will go ask him for money to go shopping. I have my favorite restaurants and things I like to do for dates. If I need help fixing my robot vacuum, I’ll ask for help. He has a list of things that will 100% make me happy when I’m sad or mad or upset or having a bad day, like a dozen pink roses or my favorite drink from Starbucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:02 AM
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I put myself up on a little pedestal, and most people out in the world take notice. Especially men. It’s a vibe. I walk with my head held high, I take excellent care of myself, and I don’t do things that I don’t want to do. Only the best for me, thank you very much. The men in the world have no choice but to worship me, and honestly, it makes it so incredibly easy for both of us. I’m blunt and honest about what I want and what I expect and what I will and won’t tolerate. I’m not up in my guy’s b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:09 AM
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I don’t participate in hookup culture or anything close to that. It’s my responsibility as the woman to train my guy so he knows what I like. If I’m really turned on, I’ll throw him signals, and 98% of the time he gets it. All I need to do is give him “the look” and he will be all over me. If he’s the one initiating, my job is to put the brakes on and make sure he’s doing his job right. Sex is about me, it’s for me, and my enjoyment first.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 12:48 AM
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As you can imagine, there’s more to the story. At the end of the day, neither of us were willing to compromise and we were just incompatible. Life is too short and I’m too lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:53 PM
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Totally makes sense. I was taught by my dad (who went through a similar thing, he went to college at 17 and picked his major from a list of salaries) that we all have to be a cog in the machine for 40 hours a week for the rest of our lives. It’s just like that. We live in a society that requires some type of energetic exchange in order to get our needs met, whether it’s with time, money, our bodies, favors, manipulation, whatever it is. The only choice we have is how much we get to charge for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:00 PM
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Exactly. The money/resources/houses/etc are a great way to figure out what a person’s values are. The man I’m dating picked his career when he was 8 years old, he saw a pamphlet with jobs and their salaries and picked the highest one… then he just fucking did the thing. Went to an Ivy League. Got the job. Bought a house, paid it off. Bought another one, paid it off. Shows that he is trustworthy and won’t be hanging off my leg like a toddler. Keeps me from getting worked up and naggy when he’s no…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 07:55 AM
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That’s literally the point of my post, and why the people mentioned in OP says it is leading the women on. Look at the title of the post… you see how it’s a question, right? Look at my original reply. You see how it’s an answer to the question? And how even the flair is “question for women”?! The behavior of the guy is NOT congruent with a casual/fwb situation. Taking these women out on dates and helping them out is romantic, boyfriend, and relationship behavior. This is why he is leading them o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 11:55 PM
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In what way? The random guy at the gas station can call me his wife, tell all his friends and family about me, and navigate through his life with the belief that I’m his wife. Doesn’t make me his wife. There are actions that one must take in order to earn the right to call me his wife… proposing, buying a ring, going to the courthouse and getting a license, having a ceremony, signing the paperwork, and filing it with the court. Simply saying that I am his wife is not enough. There are actions th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 07:13 PM
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You more or less just repeated what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 07:07 PM
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Well, the same thing can be applied to men. To me, a poor man is in the same category as an obese woman. Most men don’t want an obese woman. It’s not attractive. A poor man is not attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 03:38 PM
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For most women, it’s simply a matter of “letting off the brakes” and realizing that yes, in this universe of infinite possibilities, I am entitled to have x, y, and z in a man. That there is nothing in the rule book that says “I am forced to accept less than what I want”. Most women know that we will have to “settle” with the best that we have available, but that won’t stop us from wanting more. What we have to do to get it is just overcome our own mental blocks, if that makes sense. A year ago,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 12:34 AM
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Because a man’s actions are what dictates the relationship, not his words. FWB means different things to each person, ranging anywhere from “people who use each other for sexual gratification only” to “everything except claiming you as my girlfriend” even to “we have children together, sleep with each other occasionally, but don’t live together” Unless the man is explicitly clear about what his intentions are with each of these women, he is leading them on. There will eventually be a point where…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 12:14 AM
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Girl same. My ex husband tried to get me to chase/compete for him by going out with random women when our marriage was on the rocks. I told him to have fun, cut him off from everything (sex, being nice, talking to him, giving a shit about him lol) and waited for him to file for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:43 AM
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It’s hard to describe exactly what I mean, but I’ll give it my best shot. I don’t want to date an unemotional robot. It’s uncomfortable for me. I want to see that you are a human being, too. I’m VERY playful, happy, flirty, and fun. I love to giggle and tease and just play with people… I’m also emotionally stable, so like you, I deal with emotions on my own. If I’m pissed off at something, I’ll figure out what I need to do to fix it. If I’m sad, I’ll be sad, and cry and whatever else I need to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:19 PM
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Not exactly, but close. Child support payments are determined by actual parenting time after the divorce, and how much each parent is able to contribute. It’s aimed at the best interests of the children in courts, so they can still have the same or similar quality of life. Let’s say a high earning man can take care of the kids only on weekends, and mom didn’t work while married and may only get a job paying $10 an hour. it’s pretty unreasonable for the kids to spend a week with mom living in a 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:58 PM
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He’s a fully grown man, so he doesn’t need someone else’s help lol. He has the whole table, chairs, tablecloth, and plates… just needs someone to enjoy it with. I’m highly educated actually, previously working a 6 figure job, and he begged me to quit because it was so stressful. I appreciate your concern, but I’m not worried about him leaving me LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:43 PM
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That all makes sense. I can’t speak for all traditional women, but over the course of a 50 or 60 year marriage, there is more than enough time to grow and be adventurous in the bedroom. It doesn’t need to all happen right away. As for what I bring to the table, I’d have to say nothing but myself. He’s never asked me for anything or to do anything, he does 90% of the cooking and housework, planning, arranging, and he prefers that I use his money to pay for things. Even bought me a new car, lasik …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:12 PM
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I’m kind of traditional I guess, what’s mine becomes ours after marriage. It sets a weird precedent. The man I’m dating is very financially savvy, owns multiple houses outright, and has a high enough salary where a prenup would make sense… but we’ve had this discussion before, he says that he can lose it all and make it all up again, so it’s not even an issue lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:10 PM
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What’s the point of entangling one’s legal assets if not to benefit from it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:48 AM
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Lol, right? Gold diggers (like myself) aren’t at all concerned with the little milk money they bring in. If money is so hard for these guys to come by, then I don’t want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:04 PM
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It varies from state to state. If he’s offering me a prenup, he probably doesn’t have money to go through a legal battle to get it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:52 PM
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It’s known that what a woman brings to a marriage is intangible, and it’s the job of the man to bring the tangible. Ancient history, cultures, and religions all know this and it’s part of the marriage customs. Most men don’t even make enough money or have enough assets for a prenup to make sense. So yeah, if a man presented me with a prenup alongside an engagement ring, I would keep the ring and toss out the prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 06:34 PM
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It’s just like any other relationship or interaction with something… Everyone has a role to play. I don’t go to the grocery store and start stocking shelves or running the cash register, for I am the shopper and not the clerk. I’m a woman, so I take on the feminine role of any relationship. My role, or job, is to be the receiver about 80-90% of the time. I say what I want, and it is the job of the male or masculine role to give me whatever it is I want or need. I will flit around and do whatever…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:23 PM
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The reason women can’t get men to commit is very simple… they don’t give the man any reason to commit. There are women in the world, and especially in the west, who will move in and have children with a man and stay with him for 10 years without a ring. Humans are creatures of habit, so it’s going to be an uphill battle to get him to propose. He would only do it if she left, and threatened child support, or common law divorce, lol. There’s also women in the world who wouldn’t be alone in the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:00 PM
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This is a concept that is known and practiced among most religions and ancient cultures. The man will provide, full stop, no questions about it. He will be the breadwinner, or else he won’t get married. The woman just has to be sexually attractive to him. From the wedding day forward, the couple must work together to build a working relationship, and then grow in love. There’s no 3-5 year “trial period” like we have in the states, it’s a full investment of both parties from the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:17 AM
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Oh, delusional?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 06:03 AM
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I hope you feel better soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:34 AM
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That’s where you’re wrong, kiddo. I can get just about any man to do any thing for me, and I don’t even have to lift a finger… let alone let a superficial cock into my cunt. Women bring life in to the world, believe it or not. We are more protected and have far more privileges than men do, because the human race will not continue without us. Men are stronger, sure, but women are more powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 03:00 AM
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Not sure what you’re looking for, lol. Figure out what you want, whether it’s a hookup or a wife and mother, and then don’t settle for anything less. Find out what your values are. Do you believe in providing for your woman and your family, or do you believe in splitting things 50/50? Do you value education above street smarts? Do you see yourself going to parties and staying out all night, or relaxing at home? Do you believe in saving sex for commitment, like marriage, or do you believe in sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 01:21 AM
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There is no simple “do this and you’ll get a woman”, because all women are different and have different values and desires. Stop dating until you are ready for marriage, because even if the woman you want doesn’t desire marriage, accidents happen. She could end up pregnant, and then you’re responsible to provide for your child.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:45 PM
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If he’s wealthy and pays for everything, sure. Everything else can be worked out down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:05 PM
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Women will always end up doing whatever we want, and then society will follow. We are more powerful in that regard. We hold the keys to the future, and if women want it to be a certain way, then it shall be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:09 PM
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Well, the US is only a couple hundred years old, and was never perfect to begin with. I can’t blame liberals or feminism for destroying something that was in its infancy to begin with, lol. I’m more focused on solutions and making things better. Women are the gene police and choose which genes are to be passed down, so it’s my opinion that modern women should only marry and mate with high achieving and successful men. We can’t have men running around thinking that they don’t have to be providers…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 09:38 PM
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This is hilarious. All the old cultures and religions of the world know this, and it’s why marriage traditions are the way they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:09 AM
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The best: marriage and relationships take work. Yes, in this day and age we want everything to be easy. Humans are exceptionally lazy and actually doing the work is a daunting task. Really, if you just make a list of things that are legitimate deal breakers, you can make it work with anyone. Violence in the home, cheating, allowing family to move in, not treating medical issues, whatever they are. You don’t need to fall in love with someone to make a relationship work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:28 PM
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There’s a huge difference between being emotionally vulnerable and being emotionally unhealthy. My dad is a very strong, healthy, alpha and masculine man. He doesn’t have quick access to his emotions, so if he is feeling anxious or angry or upset about something, he will go DO something. Chop wood, paint, whatever. He will rarely talk about whatever it is. Except with me. His only daughter. He can cry with me, tell me what’s going on, be vulnerable when he’s scared. In terms of romantic relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 07:27 PM
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Certainly a good idea. Wealth and success don’t bring happiness and joy and a life full of love… you just get to be upset about other things, lol. I was at dinner with the man I’m dating and his married friends… they’re both highly successful, and the wife’s company just sold for 60 million dollars… And they spent a good portion of the evening complaining that they couldn’t find a good nanny (despite offering a 6 figure salary) and their new chef sucks. I had a hard time keeping it together lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:46 AM
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This is all absolutely true. High society men/men in upper level corporate jobs have a reputation to uphold, and their woman needs to have a certain level of decorum in order to “fit in”. Pretty but not too pretty, dressed appropriately, has wit and feminine mystery, smartly educated, and knows how to turn off the “power boss” mode when at home. This means shutting the fuck up, wearing dresses, and shutting the fuck up. It’s that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:57 AM
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Another way to say valuing his comfort
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 03:06 AM
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Absolutely. Men are allowed to (and should) have an upper limit to set aside their wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:15 AM
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High value men place the comfort of his feminine counterpart above all else. If he’s interested in her, and doesn’t just see her as a sexual conquest, he will wait until she is comfortable. High-value men aren’t messing around with a bunch of girls, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 11:15 PM
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I agree, and I’d even add to it. Date multiple men. Don’t commit to any of them until they do what you want, whether it’s marriage or engagement or whatever. I put myself out on the dating market a year ago, and went on 5-10 dates each week with different guys. I got 2 proposals and each one of the guys considered me their girlfriend, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:40 PM
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I mean, depends on the situation. I don’t get offended if a man offers me help with something physical, or offers me a solution, or tells me that I shouldn’t do something. I assume that he has my best interests in mind, and is trying to be helpful or protective in some way. I DO get offended when I have stated that I don’t need help, and he does it anyway. Perhaps this is just my own inner 2 year old that wants to be a big girl, lol…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 07:03 AM
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Beautifully said. The less pressure you put on a person or experience, the more fun you get to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:42 AM
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Well duh, it’s putting female needs first lol. I don’t have a problem with that concept. I have a problem with women getting mad and hateful when the guy they’re seeing disagrees. Just leave it be. I had to have this conversation with the man I’m dating. He had just about had enough, and was ready for some husband benefits. I heard him out and agreed that I was being bratty. He bought a car for me, so yeah, I made him a nice dinner. All is well now lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:22 AM
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If the dude wants to do that, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 08:36 PM
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Sure, it all depends on the context of the relationship and what makes sense. I’m talking about girls working, paying half of the bills, and then taking care of the cooking and then cleaning and laundry. For a boyfriend. Not even a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:02 PM
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Women shouldn’t be doing wife things for boyfriends. If the boyfriend is paying 100% of the bills and providing completely, then it might make sense for her to do that. But for a boyfriend, no engagement ring, no plans? Absolutely not. As far as deserving, I agree, no one deserves anything… but there’s a number of women who are being abused by men, and just aren’t aware of it. No one deserves to be abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:57 PM
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No, I love men and I love masculinity. Men were/are the hunters and warriors who kept the species alive. I don’t need to help men or support them financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:51 PM
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Men who are financially stable and ready to step up into the role of a provider won’t have a problem with paying, nor will they expect an equivalent exchange. These men get a great sense of satisfaction by being a provider. It’s not a transaction or quid pro quo out in the real world. Relationships don’t work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:48 PM
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It’s a boyfriend, not a husband. Husbands get wife benefits, not boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:44 PM
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It has it’s place, and can be super helpful depending on your perspective. I’m a woman and not a strict follower of FDS. I love that woman are waking up and realizing that they are being taken advantage of or getting less than they deserve. The byproduct of that is usually higher standards for themselves, getting better boundaries, and learning from their mistakes. IMO, a girlfriend shouldn’t be cooking and cleaning and taking care of her boyfriend. That’s damaging to her AND him. Treating him l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:33 PM
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You’re right! That’s why we (or I, at least) play with the subconscious mind. All I gotta do is give a man the “my hero” eyes, smile, and he’s hooked for life. Don’t even have to worry about my pussy at that point, or mind games.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 01:56 PM
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To answer your question about psychological traits: yes, we have. Men are more logical and aren’t able to access their emotional/feeling bodies as readily as women are. We are able to play with your subconscious mind and use that to get you hooked, or any man who we set our eyes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 04:32 AM
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Yup. The beta males usually make exceptional husbands and fathers. Women who are seeking a family man know what to look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:08 PM
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It’s not easy, not at all. But if there is no support system for mothers, then women will stop having babies. It’s not just easy and playtime with kids, it’s the entire process from becoming pregnant, being pregnant, labor, delivery, and then keeping the thing alive until it’s done breastfeeding. Literally a 24/7 job. And healing from pregnancy/delivery takes a long time. We need healthy babies and healthy mothers to support the older generation, that’s just a non-negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:32 AM
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I totally have! Sometimes it really is easier to ask a man for help. Just today I was trying to put on my license plates but needed either man strength or a tool. Like, yeah, I’m a fully functioning human being and I can drive myself to Home Depot (or autozone, right? They have tools?) and spend an hour trying to find the right thing… but a man happened to be walking by, so I asked him, and he helped me. It’s a wonderful thing, cause I have really been in some sticky situations and honestly, a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 12:09 AM
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I think it’s so interesting that you say that! From my perspective as a woman, men are more attentive when I use words like help, advice, need, fix, problem, want, like. Even more when I’m coming from a place of a “fixable” emotion, like overwhelmed or helpless or whatever. Like a laser pointer! And I can physically SEE him come to life, lol! Even when I don’t use that specific language, whenever I talk to guys, I’m offered a solution to whatever problem they think I’m having. It’s awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 11:02 PM
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To actually answer your question, gender roles have been totally confused by the modern world. For me to be in my feminine energy and perform the role of the receiver, and do nice things that are supportive, the man must step up into the complimentary masculine role. That means providing for me entirely, paying all the bills, fixing all the broken stuff, providing REAL solutions instead of critiquing or giving ideas, planning ahead, etc. It doesn’t happen overnight, but it’s the consistency that…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:01 PM
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Because I don’t get approached by broke dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:02 PM
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I’m in a traditional relationship with a traditional guy, who happens to be very rich. I’m in it because of both factors, he has figured out how to both make money AND turn it into wealth. He knows how to share it, too. I asked him to invest some money for me, and he declined, because he doesn’t want anything to do with my money. It’s mine. He offered to teach me, which totally encompasses a protector and provider and one who shares. I offered to iron his shirts for him before work, and he decli…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 01:21 AM
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If you’re ok with banging an old rich lady and doing whatever she tells you to, sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:18 AM
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Nicely done! Yes, it’s easier to pick up older women. I advocate for women to be lazy and go with the option that lets them be the laziest. Use your youth to get an old rich guy, and then use his money to bag the pool boy or a sexy little 20-something with mommy issues lol Vice versa for men haha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 09:56 PM
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Exactly! They are still obsessed with women, how to get them, how to “outsmart” the uncomfortable truths about us, how to get what they want from women. Not saying it’s a bad thing. Males and masculinity are wonderful, and seeing all the stuff online is helpful for women to know what kind of tactics men are sometimes using. They are the predators, we are the prey. I dated a guy who was using these tactics on me, trying to use feminine seduction to get me. It was cute lol, but it didn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 07:59 PM
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It’s not a matter of enjoyment, or preferences, it’s about value. Men place value in things that they had to work for and earn. Think about it like this: is a participation trophy going to have the same value as a trophy won after a long and strenuous season? Our evolutionary history is in support of OPs claim. Men didn’t get to have a woman unless he could provide. That meant he had to learn how to make weapons, how to hunt, how to problem solve, how to protect, and how to put his emotions asid…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 03:28 AM
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Totally agree. I’m all for women having rights and the ability to work, and for the privileges I now have and the sacrifices made to get us here, don’t get me wrong, but it’s also incredibly backwards. Femininity is nature, the cosmos, the deep ocean, quiet, the undertow and muse to the masculine. We don’t require the same things that men do in order to feel good. Men need appreciation, adulation, and to be the “winner” far more than women do, so I can only imagine how it feels to be constantly …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:11 AM
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Aww, that’s sweet!! I’ve always wondered if you guys could tell when we’re putting you under the spell or not haha. I left a catalog about the motorcycle I wanted in his work bag once, sprayed it with perfume and everything lol. I got the motorcycle. I agree with you, it’s definitely a weird cultural shift happening. Women have forgotten how to be women, men aren’t taught how to be men, everyone is blaming each other. I’m curious to see how it all turns out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:03 PM
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There’s a difference between acting confident and acting like you have high self esteem, and actually being confident and having high self esteem. A man can pretend to be confident just long enough to pull some tail.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:32 PM
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So… women will be happy with what they have, but always want more? Is that not true for everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:33 AM
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I totally agree with you. I believe, in addition to what you said, that men with high body counts are deeply insecure and lack a sense of self worth. Instead of building themselves up with admirable qualities that add value, being self-validating, and BEING a fully functioning male… they use women and sex to get JUST enough validation to continue living. If they are able to tap into multiple women, even better. Like seriously. Go chop some wood or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:27 AM
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I definitely agree, the art of feminine power and it’s teachings have been lost over the years. It’s so much more fun, romantic, and sensual to ask for (or demand, really) things in a feminine way. For example: I want a specific thing. Shoes, with the red bottoms. I can buy them myself, of course, with either my money or with his, it doesn’t matter. I can order them today and have them delivered tomorrow… but It’s more fun to let him treat me to it. I start dropping hints, show pictures of the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:57 PM
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Its not really a conscious choice, but I’ve found that men do not like it when I communicate my needs directly, which is quite funny imo. If I say, “I need you to do x, y, and z”, most men will take that as a personal criticism and feel attacked. If I say “I love it when you do x, y, and z, it makes me feel so much better and blah blah blah”, they’ll keep doing it. Men have adapted to listen, interpret, and attune to what their woman says. It’s one of the amazing things about men that I love. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:33 PM
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Not at all, because we have a good relationship outside of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 02:20 PM
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Use your imagination
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 05:19 AM
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Why not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:45 AM
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This is wonderful to read and echoes a lot of the conversations I’ve had with male family members, friends, and the men I date. They have figured out that investment in one “good” woman has a better return than chasing after (and investing as little as possible) into many.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:28 PM
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All depends on your perspective. I’m a woman, and have seen a few porn flicks in my day. I learned a lot of things and tricks and special moves. Thanks to that knowledge (and other things like my good looks and sparkly personality) the man I’m dating and sleeping with bought me two cars, a motorcycle, lasik eye surgery, and everything else I’ve ever asked for. Perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:11 PM
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Feminism, at it’s core, is to give women more options and to free us from the oppressive roles that were forced on us. Key words being options and oppressive. Not all homemakers are/were oppressed, but there were lots of women who did not fit into that role. Me? I can run a household, and I’m much better at that then I ever was in the career world. I’m a beautiful woman and dealt with sexual harassment at every job I ever worked at, and would come home exhausted and miserable, mean, and full of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 01:13 AM
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I’m with you on the height thing. I’m tallish for a woman at 5’7, and I wear heels/platforms every day. I don’t like to crane my neck to kiss someone, and it definitely feels a little scarier than with someone my own size.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:15 PM
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That’s one way to look at it, the modern human design still has a bit more consciousness than our lizard brains. Both parties look at the other as a way to meet their subconscious needs, not just limited to the primal need to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:51 AM
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I think that most of the rhetoric doesn’t include the fact that women are conscious beings, meaning that women don’t operate using only our lizard brains. We also don’t think the same way that men do, and we have had an entirely different experience living and existing out in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 09:53 PM
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Totally agree. It makes me a little sad tbh, cause I feel like (most) men are so sweet and caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 09:42 PM
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Maybe it’s just me, but I think that men are certainly more romantic to women than vice versa. There’s just a trope that women are the romantic ones currently. It’s expressed differently, too. The man I’m dating doesn’t have time to buy me gifts very often, but he will buy me anything that I ask for or give me the money to. Every couple of months he will go all out and get me something that I need. Last month he bought me a car, today I am going to get lasik eye surgery. He is paying for both an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:53 PM
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I don’t believe abortion is murder, because we as a society have not decided or determined when a life begins. Some say it’s conception, some say it’s first breath. Different spiritual and religious groups have come to their own determination. I can’t say when life begins within the womb, therefore I don’t think that ending a pregnancy is murder. Murder is willfully taking action that directly result in the ending of another person’s life. You can’t take life insurance out on a fetus, it doesn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:38 PM
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Yup, power of the P.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:18 PM
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I’ve had to think about that very hard, and it’s still a grey area for me. I don’t think it’s murder, simply because murder is a moral issue, and morality is hard to define. I keep a relatively zoomed out perspective on things, in an effort to maintain my own sanity and personal peace, so that I may live a life in service to others. To say it’s murder of a human life erases all of the potential positive consequences, like keeping an unwanted, unsupported, and unloved child from psychological or …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:49 PM
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I believe that it’s not my place to make legal or moral judgments about what people do with their bodies. I tend to follow science and/or the professionals in areas that I’m not familiar with, since the lines are still blurry about when a life begins scientifically, legally, socially, and morally. Since the pregnant woman IS scientifically, legally, socially, and morally defined as being a life, then she should have ultimate authority over what she does with her body. She will be responsible for…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:25 PM
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Lol, you might be surprised… I agree with most, if not all of the leftist platform, at least how I interpret it. Abortion rights? Hell yeah. Let anyone who wants an abortion have the right to get an abortion, and any provider who wants to perform it should have the right to practice their craft as they see fit. Universal healthcare coverage? Absolutely. One shouldn’t go into debt or avoid doctors because of the cost. Gun laws? Pretty wack, most people aren’t capable of operating their vehicles i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:51 PM
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Values are more important to me than anything. People fall on a spectrum when it comes to political beliefs… I’ve dated 2A red-blooded traditional republicans, PC liberal SJW cucks, and all in between. I don’t tend to have political discussions with anyone. I write myself in if I vote. I’d say I’m an anarchist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:19 PM
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I’m currently blonde so Elsa lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 06:58 AM
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Never said I was the among the most beautiful women in the world, lol. Beautiful enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 06:56 AM
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Women who are very much in their feminine energy date and choose with logic first, and then feelings second. To these types of women, how a potential partner LOOKS and how attractive they are physically is maybe 4th or 5th down the list. Men are more visual, obviously, and they tend to date and choose with their eyes first, feelings second, and logic as the very last thing. I’m very beautiful physically, and I take great care of myself. I’m asked out on dates on a daily basis. I’m stopped by kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:53 PM
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Eh, we had been on a few dates by that point so I was getting more comfortable with him… first date hair sniffing? Yeah that’s not acceptable, at least not as obvious lol A common thing I hear from men in my life is that women don’t “let” them do things, like let him pay on dates, let him hold her hand, let him be the hero. It’s easy to forget that you’re on our side (meaning that you’re trying to just make us happy lol) and not all men are bad, so I’m sorry for the way the media, etc portray me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:35 AM
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Thank you for saying this, as a woman it’s a good reminder. I imagine that most healthy men are walking on absolute eggshells around women, so I try my best to be open, accepting, and understanding when I am around men. I was on a date with a guy and he was doing some stereotypical “creepy” things, like sniffing my hair and my hat lol. He told me I was intoxicating. Like, duh, I’m a beautiful woman, of course he wants to sniff me. We’re on a date, he’s not doing it at the grocery store. No need …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:30 AM
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There are things that can be generalized, like men are more likely to be attracted to a thinner woman than an obese woman, but it’s hard to be objective about looks alone. Just like everything, human beings are complex and have a lot of nuances. Psychology has a part to play, too. I’ve dated men who weren’t my type in the beginning, but as time went on and we spent more time together, I started to think he was more attractive. Same goes the other way, the more time I spent with a particular some…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:19 AM
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Absolutely true. Men are providers, period. If I’m going to be the feminine part of the relationship, he’s going to be the masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 02:04 AM
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They think we like it. They think that we are doing it to get their attention and to get validated. They know we don’t want it or like it, but want to get our attention, so they can get validated. Positive or negative. There’s a difference between a compliment and a catcall, and while one may seem like the other, they’re not. I was stopped by a man at the grocery store today, who was old, fat, and ugly… but he was nice and genuine in his personality. He stopped, complimented me, and said that he…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 01:01 AM
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That may be true for you! In most cases, biology and human design will take over. Men have spent millions of years doing shit to impress women, get our attention, and to make us happy, so this “code” is deeply ingrained in both DNA and the subconscious mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:46 AM
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Eh, accepting general dating advice from women is counter productive. Here’s a little known secret from a woman’s perspective: men will do/say/be anything in order to impress women and make us happy. It’s part of the magic of being in a relationship. Men need to attune to the woman they like specifically, and simply try different things to impress her. Look at her, listen to her, and put the pieces together from there. Does she wear jewelry? That means she probably likes jewelry, so buy her some…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:22 AM
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Interesting! It’s usually men who are the ones with the Madonna-whore complexes, but I understand what you mean. Just something to think about, of course. I think most men’s greatest fear about their wives is that they will eventually become sexually unattractive or stop having sex with them. At the end of the day, it’s supposed to be a nice thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 12:55 AM
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What does it mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 12:07 AM
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It’s supposed to be a compliment… it means that you have your shit together and are a quality partner, worth investing in, are reliable and trustworthy, and someone they can see a future with. In addition to all that, it means that you are the only one who she would want to fuck forever. If a woman says this to you, you should be thinking whether or not she is wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 11:44 PM
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There’s a few things that come into play, imo. They don’t have the guts to leave/break up with him, either because they are tied together financially, have children already, or think that this is the best they can do. They figure if they are good enough girlfriends, they will eventually get the ring. Put all your cards on the table, and then hope for the best. I’m not a girlfriend and I won’t ever be… I’m actively dating and every single man has asked me to be his girlfriend or referred to me as…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 09:51 PM
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Women should be both, or use both aspects of themselves. You can be feminine while doing very masculine things, and that’s the beauty of it all. I’m a motorcyclist, which is a primarily male-dominated hobby, but I’m still a woman and still very feminine while doing it. My gear is all matching and cute, I listen to music and dance around, and just have fun while doing it. I’m feminine and flirty with the men in my life, and playful, and sweet… but if something doesn’t work for me, I’ll make it kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:06 PM
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What you said is more or less true… for men. All a woman has to do is pass a threshold of attractiveness and then everything is more or less a bonus. Thinking that men and women operate the same way isn’t going to get you very far. Men like to chase and win over a woman, women like to be chased and won over.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 08:23 PM
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Men would not exist without a woman bringing him into the world, so it’s near impossible to say whether one is better or not. A mans ability to DO is contingent upon women being appreciative, you just said so yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:21 AM
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That’s where the problem is. It’s yin and yang, after all. Women don’t trust men enough to be vulnerable, men don’t trust women to be appreciative.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:50 PM
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We’re not equal. We are meant to be complimentary. Men suck at things that women naturally excel at, women suck at things that men naturally excel at. Neither’s natural affinity is better or worse than the others. You need both in order to function as a person, within a relationship, and as a community at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:44 PM
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It’s always been normalized… even in tribal days, women would be taught by other women (elders and aunties) how to seduce and talk to men to get what they want Shoot, even in modern Judaism (orthodox, but not always) engaged women will have a “bride teacher” before they get married. Even girls as young as toddlers know this. Using the sweet voice with daddy and he will do whatever you want, lol. Our weakness is our strength, but it’s a delicate balance, too. Being sweet and soft requires trust, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:16 PM
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There is a time and a place for men to be emotional, and get help from their woman in processing them. That’s usually after therapy, cause most women are not trained and certified therapists. Timing is important, and having a larger/zoomed out perspective about it. If you’re emotionally unstable, it shows. It’s a giant red flag to people and women who are more emotionally stable than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:55 PM
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Right, I understand that much. I don’t have a problem with a man looking after himself. I don’t like men who are obsessed with their looks… I’m talking about a man who spends an hour blow drying his hair every morning, spends time preening and taking 100 bathroom selfies, etc. There’s enough room for one of us to be the pretty one, and it’s gotta be me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:05 AM
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Congrats, that takes a lot of hard work and determination! I’m not saying that a man shouldn’t be concerned with how he looks, not at all. Healthy is attractive, and that’s mostly basic grooming skills. Shower, maintain haircuts and facial hair, take care of calloused areas and nails so they aren’t scratchy, work towards skin problems, dress appropriately, etc. Kinda like how guys are with women, like it doesn’t matter if she’s making 6 figures like him or can change a tire… cause he’s got that …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:35 AM
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It’s entirely dependent on what each person wants. Some people are just too scared to stand in what they desire, and figure that whatever dynamic they have is working good enough to continue it. Or, worse, that they can convince the other person to change. Some women are just horny, or think that sex will secure a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:24 AM
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I’m lucky to have me an alpha bucks!! Woo hoo!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:19 AM
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To be quite honest, a lot. It’s a red flag for me if a man is too invested or involved with his looks. Why are you focused on being pretty, instead of being masculine, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:13 AM
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Men typically experience the emotion of love through sex with a woman. It affirms that they are desirable, worthy, special, wanted, and loved. Our evolutionary history has something to do with this too. Men did not get to have sex with a woman, or a mate, without doing a significant amount of work beforehand. You had to go through training, rites of passage, and EARN the title of being a man. You had to prove yourself to the fellow men and the tribe that you were capable of protecting and provid…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 02:16 AM
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Absolutely! I think we all like to be reminded that we are human beings. We like something different than us, too. I was having a discussion with a man I’m dating about this. He has olive skin, dark hair, and dark eyes. He said he was initially attracted to me because I’m different, with pale skin, blonde hair, and blue eyes. The flaws/imperfections/differences can carry a story, too. It makes things more interesting, and can reveal important things about ones character. I have a giant scar on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 07:56 PM
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Significant age gaps (like 9+ years) seem to only work when the couple is in the same stage of life, or close to it, and both are working towards the same goals. A small age gap would work best, in theory, because men age and mature slower than women. 8-10 years, I’d say. Men want to feel successful and be respected, but it’s hard for a woman to respect and admire a man who isn’t done growing up yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 04:11 AM
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I see your argument, and as it stands right now, without this option to opt out… we must be assuming that ALL men are paying child support 100% as ordered, on time, and without issue. They are present for their (unwanted) children and providing a substantial improvement to the lives of the (scorned) mother and the (unwanted) children. That’s a lot of assumptions. Men already can, and do, opt out of parenting in any substantial way. Child support ordered through the courts is often a last ditch e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 10:45 PM
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A man can opt out by not jizzing in women he doesn’t want to have kids with, lol. Men know the risks of pregnancy when having sex… so much for being the more logical of the two sexes, lmao Life isn’t fair, reproduction isn’t fair, not until men can carry and deliver and feed babies from their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 09:11 PM
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Not necessarily. From a strictly biological perspective, women do not control when we are fertile. We can not choose when to ovulate, when the egg travels out, where it gets fertilized or whether it will be fertilized, when/if it implants, or even if it will result in a healthy pregnancy and baby. We don’t get to decide when we hit puberty or when we go through menopause. Individually, we don’t really have any true, empirical, evidence-based data as to when our “fertile period” is, outside of gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 08:49 PM
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They have no choice as to whether the child will be born after sex, but they have the absolute choice over whether or not the child will be CREATED in the first place. Men choose from a myriad of options in order to create or not create a child. They can then choose from a myriad of options to play the role of father figure as they see fit. Abstinence until marriage (or whatever level of commitment), condoms, withdrawal, spermicide, alternative forms of sex, vasectomy. Choosing women who hold si…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:23 PM
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I think monogamy makes the most sense on a sexual level. Less risk with that. There are different components to a relationship, aside from just sex, as we all know. I think it’s important to have different and multiple sources to meet those needs. I feel like it’s a TON of pressure to require that ALL of your emotional, psychological, and spiritual needs be met by another individual. Not saying that it’s impossible, but it’s a lot of work and a lot of pressure. It’s often a misuse of the other p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:03 PM
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It’s due to conditioning, whether it’s from parents, society, community, TV/media, whatever. Masculinity is a concept, and then a series of attributes, and then behaviors/actions, and then finally a reflection. I see little boys and boy toddlers every day who are very masculine already, at least how I define it. They want to help out, show off, problem solve, and figure things out on their own. There was a viral video recently of a little boy and his toddler sister on the nanny cam. The sister w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:29 PM
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I’m sorry you didn’t have someone else to teach this to you, but generally yes, women like when their potential life partner has their life together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 11:50 PM
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I’m totally with you about dressing for women! It’s like a fun little secret language between us. Getting a specific compliment about a particular fashion/makeup/design piece from another woman just hits different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:57 PM
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Once you reach a certain tax bracket, whatever little income your wife brings in makes 0 difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 05:27 AM
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What’s the problem? My paycheck goes directly to the stock market and investing, so I have something to live on in case my husband randomly dies or is unable to work, and if all goes well, something to leave my children and grandchildren. His check pays for the necessities, food, shelter, clothing, transportation, medical.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 03:24 AM
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Idk man, hypergamy is a very “online” term, most people would simply call the above scenario just… marriage lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:26 AM
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Men are and always have been protectors and providers, and whether or not they got a woman to have a family with was the variable. You had to go to work, hunt, and build, whether you had a woman to come home to or not. If it wasn’t for your mate, it was for the tribe. Women got to do pretty much whatever we wanted to, barring the last few centuries under patriarchal regime. Shoot, even Eve wouldn’t be subservient to Adam OR God and did what she wanted to anyway. There wasn’t anything in this arr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:58 PM
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I understand, I suppose I define hypergamy slightly different. MOST men of every age are MOST sexually attracted to young women in their 20s, that’s likely due to fertility and the traits I listed above. Protection of innocence, sweetness, softness, are wonderful masculine/man traits. I’m sure that most men would prefer to have a top model, gorgeous, healthy, sweet, gentle, nurturing, and all the top % of feminine traits if given the chance. Bonus if she’s rich, cooks, cleans, and generally supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:54 PM
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I understand, I don’t define it as that, though. I define it as opposite, because I don’t personally attach value to those particular things, so I can’t relate to it. I think having a broader definition allows for more freedom when picking a partner. I keep my “list” relatively simple, I have enough social status, education, and net worth that I don’t consciously seek out those things when it comes to a life partner. My money is to invest for myself and for the kids future, his money is to pay t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:39 PM
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So… why do men desire to fuck as many WOMEN as possible, as opposed to simply fucking each other? Is that not because women possess things that men do not have? Wombs, perhaps? I pretty much agree with you on your last point, society would not have been built were it not for women’s hypergamy. Men had to come up with a solution to gain access to sex, and giving individual women exclusive provision and protection in exchange for easier access to sex was it. It still required a man to prove himsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:31 PM
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Men are hypergamous, just as women are. Men are attracted to women for the things that they do not have themselves, ie femininity, beauty, softness, youth, playfulness. Same as women, we are attracted to men who have the things that we don’t have… masculinity, strength, ambition. Opposites attract, after all. One thing that you haven’t considered is that the human race has evolved to be more than just the basic, survivalist, and lizard parts of the brain. That part is still there, and often dict…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:49 PM
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Totally. We have an easier time overriding these emotions, if we feel that we must do it to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:45 PM
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Um, you’re making a lot of snap judgments about what I’m talking about and what platform I’m speaking from… I’m neither a feminist nor a man-hater, just a human being observing and commenting on what I perceive to be a thought process, lol I generally take the perspective that women generally coming into power and “leaving the home” is a threat to some men’s masculinity. That doesn’t mean every man, or every woman, or every situation, or that I am making a declaration that is 100% true. I take t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:23 PM
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…we have a female VP in US for the first time ever. Also, I thought it was an apex fallacy? That a tiny fraction of a percentage of men are at the top? What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:56 AM
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Make more money, or pursue women who make less than you lol Get you a chick who works at the dollar tree or a gas station or something idk
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:06 AM
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So you can’t keep up with what the women you are attracted to want, and that’s somehow our fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:41 AM
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I shouldn’t have to state the obvious here, but apparently I have to. I clearly said that I see SOME MEN. Some. Not all. Not every single man on the planet on which we mutually reside. Just some of them. That means a select group of men outside of the rest of the non-selected group. These select men, the some men I’m speaking about, entirely outside of the group of other men who also have thoughts, think that women gaining power will lead to subjugation of the entire male population. These men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:53 AM
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Exactly. The men who could not or chose not to provide for a woman didn’t get to have a mate or a family, and if he only brought back enough food for himself and not enough to share, he would get kicked out of the tribe. It’s always been this way, and will probably always be this way, as evolution takes millions of years to undo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:39 AM
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Even in arranged marriages, the man had to provide for the woman and family completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:27 AM
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Uh… nothing, now that we have the right to work? Maybe she doesn’t want to do that? What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:16 AM
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Leave behind? The low tier and lonely men didn’t survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:14 AM
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I’m not denying that any of that is real and causes problems. You just further proved my point about how women gaining rights doesn’t mean yours are being taken away… False accusations and false positives have been a part of the justice system since it’s inception, and has absolutely nothing to do with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:12 AM
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By top I don’t just mean politically. Companies and businesses, banks, churches, hospitals… even within communities and families.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:01 AM
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Men have always been at the top, regardless of what/who they had to step on in order to get there. As women gain more independence, rights, votes, and voices, I believe it’s only natural that some men feel like they are “losing power”. Perhaps it’s just the male brain at work, and maybe gone into overdrive at times. I see that some men think that women gaining power will lead to subjugation of the entire male population, but from a woman’s perspective, that’s just because it’s what men interpret…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 11:54 PM

Absolutely. Just today I was at the hair salon, and my stylist spent the whole 5 hours gushing about her boyfriend. He picked up a second construction job to help her pay for a surprise dentist visit… they’re both like 22. A provider is a provider, no matter what. She’s free to do hair and work and whatever else she wants, and she has his help too. It’s almost so sweet that I want to cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 02:40 AM

My point is that a woman who is traditional minded is (most likely) NOT going to be having sex with YOU outside of marriage. You said you aren’t interested in commitment because this feminine woman isn’t on offer, and yet you are only looking for hookups. It’s the same argument as “women want traditional men but don’t want to be traditional women”… you want a traditional woman but aren’t behaving as a traditional man. Men lead relationships, so if you’re leading a woman to just your bed, you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 02:20 AM

More often than not, women seeking marriage are also comfortable with and expecting traditional roles. If you’re pursuing women who aren’t exclusively seeking marriage, then it’s no wonder that you think we don’t exist. You do you, obviously, I’m not suggesting otherwise. Just offering a piece from the other side. I’m a very attractive woman and with that comes being more attractive to EVERYONE, broke feminine men and highly masculine men alike. If you have the money to take care of a family, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 01:57 AM

Perhaps you’re looking in the wrong places, or you simply don’t have enough money or other things to offer. Just something to consider, but if you’re only interested in hookups then why would you care whether a woman is traditional or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 01:26 AM
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Sure, and in order for the “higher standard” of clean to feel and live in a comfortable home, it needs to meet their standards. Unless the standards are absolutely unreasonable, like the floor must be cleaned 6x a day with a Barbie toothbrush, the “lower standard” person must move up. There is room for compromise within a relationship, like watching a show you don’t care about or going to a different restaurant than you originally wanted… but maintaining a joint living space is not one of them. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 01:19 AM
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Living in a clean, comfortable, and tidy home is a non-negotiable, and doing whatever work to achieve that is the duty of both parties. That’s it, end of story. Make a list of all the chores and divide them up into categories, chores you like doing, chores you dislike, and neutral. Each person gets to do the chores they like and the chores they are neutral about. Outsource the chores you dislike doing, or take turns. It doesn’t make sense to do a chore that you hate doing when the other person e…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:46 PM

Most men don’t make enough money to fully support and provide for themselves, their wives, and an entire family. It’s traditional for traditional, after all. If you want a woman who is feminine, beautiful, young, chaste, and will cook and clean, and turn the house into a home, you’ve got to pay for it. Do you make enough to pay all the house bills for a 3-4 bedroom house in your area? Mortgage, utilities, food, transportation for 2 safe and functioning vehicles? How about for her clothes, shoes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 10:56 PM
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Aww, that’s sweet! It’s funny how little things like that can make you feel. His attitude with me has changed since I stopped with the heels, he’s much softer and more protective than before. To hell with it, wear skates all the time my man! So much quicker and more fun!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 06:38 AM
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I’m 5’7, maybe 5’7.5 when I stand up straight. I wear heels most days and on dates, so I’m fake tall, lol. I’ve never been rejected because of my height, and I’ve never rejected a man because he was shorter than me. I did have a guy (around 5’10) tell me in a very sweet and indirect way that he likes to see me when I’m more comfortable and less glamorous. I don’t wear heels when I go out with him, and he hasn’t brought it up since, lol. There are far more important things to have in a partner, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:11 AM
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I can definitely see your perspective. A lot of women have disowned their abilities to trust in a mans capabilities, like you said. There’s a difference between letting a man impress you and win you over, and flat out being emasculating and a nightmare. Unfortunately, that can come from a history of trauma. Not saying that it’s your fault or your job to fix, or that the bad behavior is justified in anyway… but it’s often a reason. It’s hard to know what a mans love looks like when you didn’t gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 10:48 PM
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No, because I don’t think men are cute and curious. It’s not my job to think men are adorable and need me to protect them or provide for them. I have a healthy respect for men, and what they do, and they don’t need me to cherish them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 08:48 PM
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Hahaha, yup. I went on a few dates with a guy who claimed to be a red pill man, one of which was a motorcycle date. Big mistake on my part, for multiple reasons. I was just being me, and when I would go in front of him, he would make a huge deal out of getting back in front. It was an instant indication to me that he felt threatened by me, and had to reassert that he was the man. I completely understood how and why he would feel that way, but it doesn’t work for me. We all know that he’s the man…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 08:39 PM
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Thank you for saying that, I appreciate it! I’m in total agreement with you. We do need both. I can be feminine and submissive and sweet and nurturing, just as I can problem solve and take action and do good things, and I can do them both at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 08:27 PM
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Different strokes for different folks. I’m not having any trouble finding men who provide for me, protect me, adore me, and cherish me. One man drives expensive sports cars and motorcycles as well, and thinks it’s adorable that I enjoy it too. When I’m out in the garage tinkering around and trying to change my oil, he’s delighted to see me figure things out. He’s there if I need him, and of course offers to do it for me, but it’s not an attack on his masculinity. I show him my appreciation for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 08:17 PM
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I consider myself to be a feminine woman with a wonderfully developed masculine side. It’s a turn off for some guys, because they see it as an invitation to compete… however, I’m still a woman, and I don’t compete with men. I’ve come to learn that I need a very masculine man as my partner in order to make it work. He must be very secure in his own masculinity and alphaness. I don’t want to disown or downplay this part of myself, because no matter what, it’s still a part of who I am. My strength …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 06:51 AM
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I’m 100% with you on this. Automate or outsource what you can and what is reasonable. I’m a single lady, and keep my home tidy, but I still have a housekeeper come in every week. Less time/energy spent cleaning = more time for fun, sex, play, pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 08:47 AM
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I can’t speak for all women or for your experience, but I get what you’re saying. We are meant to be intuitive, the undertow of sorts, the glue that holds society together. Our emotions are easier to access than for men. It’s by design, of course, cause the male needs to be both an apex predator AND be able to be soft when at home, so that you don’t scare the shit out of us. You are our protectors, but also predators, and sometimes that line gets blurry. You protect me from the lions and starvat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:46 AM
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I’m following you 100%. I’m also a member of the alien race and pop in occasionally to test the waters, my usual response is “damn that’s crazy”, lol. I don’t think anyone anticipated that we would have advanced so quickly as a race, or as a nation, or whatever. Too many options tend to overwhelm people, and depending on the person’s age, there aren’t many examples to look towards. Just for me, in my family, I am the youngest and struggle with relating to MY OWN SIBLINGS! We grew up in completel…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 01:12 AM
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Hahaha, that definitely makes a lot of sense too! That’s one of the things that I absolutely love about men and masculinity… speaking from experience here, lol. Outcome oriented vs. let’s create chaos and see what happens. Men keep the ship afloat so that women can decorate the bridge, paint the deck pink, write our names on the sails, and mess around with the cannons and possibly start a war. I try to be a good steward of my femininity and consider the best interests of both parties, especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 11:51 PM
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Very interesting!! I suppose there are always natural checks and balances for these types of things. I hadn’t considered that proposition, but it makes a lot of sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 10:30 PM
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Just like every other thing in nature, we are designed to find harmony and some degree of balance. Monogamy is advantageous for both sexes, generally. I’d argue that it benefited men far more than women, actually. Men get regular access to sex, as it wasn’t “economically viable” to have a harem of women. He would have had to provide for each of them fully, and that was a HUGE risk. Back in the day, it was a struggle to hunt, so to do that for yourself AND your harem? Only the best of the best co…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 08:00 AM
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I didn’t know there were other… subtypes? Flavors? Groups? Like I said, think red pill is generally good, pua is shady, and I don’t know what mgtow or incel is, so I guess that’s that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 07:24 AM
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Lol, that’s the point… you don’t get rich quick, you get rich slowly, using the information available to you, and applying it… …just like everything else in life lol, and relationships and TRP and whatever. TRP seems (at least to me) to be a get rich quick scheme to get women, rather than teaching how to be the best possible man IN GENERAL with what you have available to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 10:45 PM
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I think you’re missing my point. When you figure out how to make money, that’s a skill that no one can ever take away from you. It’s a skill, not a degree, or a job, or an MLM, or a promise. The money is simply a byproduct of your skill. Some people choose their career based on how much money they can bring in from their salary, but your salary isn’t the only way to have money. People who have figured THAT out don’t care about divorce rape. Their exes can take half or all the money and possessio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:03 PM
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I’m more or less with you on this, I think it’s important that men are aware of certain things that aren’t taught by parents or other male figures. Perhaps I just have a different mindset… my heart breaks for the men that fall in love and end up losing everything, of course. It makes me laugh (as a woman of course) to read about all the tactics/games/near-manipulation that these RP men use to get women to do what they want. It’s a massive case of overthinking and problem solving in overdrive. Li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 07:52 PM
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It makes it easier, that’s for sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 08:03 PM
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I’m not a strong independent feminist lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 07:24 PM
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Eh, it’s not a manipulation when the man tells me to let him know if I need anything. I have to put myself and my needs first. If I need to pay an electric bill, change my oil, fix my broken vacuum, get groceries, or whatever, then I really shouldn’t be going out and having fun on a date. It’s quite simple, not manipulation lol. I can’t play with you until my chores are done.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 12:32 AM
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It’s fun in practice too lol. 99% of the time, they will do whatever it is I ask. One guy researched how to do a gel nail manicure and did my nails for me. It’s very sweet lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:39 PM
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Well, that’s more or less it... I’ll give you an example. Man: I had a wonderful time with you, and I would love to see you again. Me: thank you, I look forward to it as well. (Narrator): he said he wants to see me, but didn’t ask me on a date, so he must not want to. 3 days later Man: I want to take you to dinner. Are you free tonight? Me: I would love to go, it would be so nice to see you again. I’m kind of having an emergency, my light bill was $500, and I don’t know what to do. (Narrator: th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:32 PM
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I like to see physical proof that what a man SAYS matches what he DOES. I believe it is my duty as the feminine side to give the man that opportunity, the invitation to be the hero. I know that a man in love will DO anything to make his woman happy. I am also acutely aware that men will often SAY that they will do x, y, and z in order to get the happy face, lol. It’s not a manipulative thing or a way to steal from them. It’s just training, lol. I am quite honest about my circumstances and allow …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:08 PM
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This is really quite fun, thank you for sharing!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:49 PM
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This is more or less what I do. No shame here, not at all. No shame for me and no shame for the men who don’t agree, we’re just simply not a match. The men I date take good care of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:48 PM

I have no way of knowing what a man wants from me, until he tells me, lol. What do men want from a woman? Depends, lol. 9 times out of 10, he wants to feel good, and he wants her to do something that makes him feel good, whether that’s smiling at him or touching his head or listening to him talk about Star Wars or whatever. He might want to leave a legacy, so he wants a woman to have children with. He might want to feel like he’s making a difference in the world, so he would therefore want a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 07:51 AM

Like I said, it entirely depends on the man. Men value women for different things. The men in my life value me for different things. There’s physical things, values, traits, aspects, whatever. One man that I’m dating says he likes skinny blondes. That’s his physical type. He likes that I know about his religion and can talk about crypto. He laughs at my jokes. He says I’m playful and fun to be around. He’s a self-professed sucker for pretty girls and likes that I make him think about things diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 07:30 AM
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Hahaha, I can definitely see how it would come off that way! That’s too much work for me… I’ll exclusively date my husband, we can be boyfriend and girlfriend forever lol Edit: whoops responded to the wrong thing 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:51 AM
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I’m meeting people with the intention to see if our values are aligned and whether we are a good match, as I want to be married and have a family. I use the term dating because it’s exactly what we are doing… going on dates, and seeing if we are a good match.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:42 AM

I’m a 10. Shoot, I’m an 11. What do men want? Depends on the man, but most can agree that a healthy looking woman is an attractive woman. I’m healthy, well groomed, polished. I walk like a woman and move like a woman. When I walk into a room, men and women look up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 04:23 AM
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I’m 27, 5’7, fit, blonde, and beautiful. I live in a fairly wealthy area with a fairly high cost of living. The men I’m dating are within the upper limits of income. Top earner is in the mid 7 figure range, just off salary alone. Lowest earner is high 6 figures. None are over 6’, have 6 packs, or whatever else it is that people think is valuable, as far as a mans looks. One is bald. They’re all very handsome and attractive to me. Very sweet, caring, funny, protective, reasonable, intelligent, op…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 03:59 AM
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I can see what you mean, but can you see what I mean? Women are more vulnerable. We have more at stake, more to lose or have taken from us. So we have to be selfish and say me before you. We’ve had to put up with a lot of bad things for a very, very long time. No rights, no voice, no options, no choice. It’s wonderful to live in a world and a time where we have so many options. This gives men more options as well, if you’re willing to look at it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 10:53 PM
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Boring. I’m the ridiculous one, with just enough boring qualities that we can have something to relate to. We can stay in on the weekends and watch Netflix and play scrabble, but when he’s at work, and maybe one weekend a month, I’m going to be out in the fields looking for aliens and practicing my fencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 06:17 AM
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Once a woman has closed herself off to you, it’s pretty hard for her to open back up. Especially if you don’t have a role to play in her life… I imagine it’s got something to do with our history. for the first time ever, women don’t have to be nice to men in order to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:30 AM
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Girl good for you!! It takes a lot of courage to do that, and I’m happy that you got to make that choice! I was in a similar relationship, except we were the same age, and he was broke. I jumped ship real quick after I got a taste of what my life was going to look like. What advice would you give your younger self, if you could?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 01:13 AM
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I believe that getting into ANY relationship without knowing what you want, having a plan, and making sure that the other person is going to be walking WITH you on that journey, is going to end up bad. Let’s say young woman enters into a relationship with an older man. He has had more time on the planet to figure out what he wants out of a partner, he has more experience with women (so he knows what to say and when to say it lol), and is in a better position in life than she is. House, job, car,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:43 PM
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The things that I bring to the table and offer to him are mostly intangible, based on how I make him feel, and vary from person to person. One man values me because I am playful and a soft place to fall when he gets done with work. I make him belly laugh. One values my wit and ability to banter back and forth, and when he takes me shopping I pick out stuff for him too. One values that I have a touch of crazy, just like him. I ride motorcycles and he drives fast cars and does helicopter skiing. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:40 AM
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I prefer directness, just cause I feel like it’s easier when both of us know what is going on. I’m not in the business of breaking hearts, ie if a man is just looking for a hookup vs looking for a long term relationship vs marriage. If we are talking about this as an approach method, a little conversation must happen beforehand, like if you see me walking around the grocery store. Chat me up for a little bit and then ask me on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:48 AM
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Honestly, it is very sweet and it probably did make them feel good about themselves. It’s a pretty powerful statement and definitely a huge compliment. I’m pretty sentimental about stuff like that, I can only speak for myself but I definitely hold on to moments that made me feel super special. One time, I casually texted a man I was seeing that my favorite kind of notebooks were sold out and was sad about it. He dropped everything, went to a bunch of stores, and delivered them to me as a surpris…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:11 AM
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I’m a woman and proponent for age gap relationships, given that both people are healed, stable, have the other’s best interests in mind, and absolutely aware of what it is that they desire. However, not many people are like that. I know that I have been viewed as a sexual object since I was about 11, and most of the harassment was from gross older men, men who should know better. There are older men who will promise the world to a young woman, promising that he will support and take care of her …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:30 AM
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Eh, I suppose everyone has a different definition of a high value man. I’ve only met and encountered a handful of men that DIDNT claim to be HVM, when in fact, they are the ones who actually are. I’d argue that 90% of the men who comment on here are not HVM, perhaps average value or above average. The “real” HVM, the ones with a significant net worth, don’t look to women to fulfill a job… that’s a sign that he’s not a man. A trophy wife is a trophy for a reason… he can afford to have a useless w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 10:05 PM
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Most real life HVM look to women for their femininity and softness, not for the “traditional” jobs that a woman took on. Men of actual high value, with a large net worth, don’t WANT their woman to be fussing around with housecleaning lmao Why would a real life HVM care if his wife can cook or clean, if they have catering and maid services now? He could expect her to manage the household… make the house beautiful, hire the nannies, dress him, hire and manage the household staff. That puts her on …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 11:46 PM
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The thing about modern/equality based relationships for me is how unclear they are, about gender/partner roles specifically. I’ve found it extremely difficult to feel romanced when everything is on a scoreboard, if that makes sense. I’d rather be 100% on my own than put in 50% and hope that the other person will put in the other 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:47 PM
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Ok, yeah that makes sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 11:47 PM
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You’re assuming men and women have the exact same brain wiring, which we don’t. We are designed to be complimentary to each other. I do absolutely agree that active vs passive sexuality will fall on a range. There are some male celebrities & men I encounter out in the world who I immediately think are sexually attractive, but that’s not the end of the line for me… just because I find you sexually attractive doesn’t mean that I want to have sex with you, or that I would if given the chance. I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 11:11 PM
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That’s a great mentality!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:39 AM
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Not necessarily, a household is a household with one person or with two. It’s about finding your compliment. Some men would rather be single than take a woman’s money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:02 AM
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I believe it is reasonable, both people are needed in order to have a functioning household. Marriage, or at least cohabitation, means that two people become one… I have your back, and you have mine type of thing. Like I said before, there are things that need to be done. If the man has his shit together, maintaining a house should already be a part of his daily routine. My idea of “equal” is based on those principles… for example, If he hates doing dishes but enjoys laundry, and she hates doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:26 AM
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I don’t think it’s really reasonable, but it depends on how you define all of this. Femininity has a few different flavors, that’s the magic of women. In any relationship, someone has to take the lead, otherwise nothing will get done. The bills need to be paid, the house needs to be looked after, the yard needs to be mowed, we need to eat, the laundry needs doing, and someone needs to be financially literate in order to have a functioning household. Vacations need to be planned, birthdays rememb…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:27 AM
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Go buy it for her!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:42 AM
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This is a key piece that TRP has missed out on… The alpha men, in a tribe setting, based on evolutionary psychology etc, WERE the best providers. They were the hunters AND the protectors and providers. The best of the best… which is why they were the alphas. You can be attractive, but if you can’t provide, then you’re not an alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:42 PM
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Cash app her the money. Don’t convince, just do it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:29 PM
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You’re absolutely right!! They want seem like they have it all together and have figured out the puzzle, or cracked the code, or whatever. I mean, whatever works for them. It’s just funny that even in these men dominated forums, women are the only thing that they talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:59 AM
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You’re absolutely right - whatever helps them get through the day. I don’t judge anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:30 AM
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I’ll take a crack at it… because the people on this sub are too reliant on facts/studies/data/information and haven’t spent enough time outside to see what all that information MEANS. They use weird logic in order to affirm their own belief system, which usually boils down to “I am not enough”… ie women are biologically programmed to be attracted to men who would be good protectors and providers, and that means that he must be tall, which means he has to be over 6’ because women will put “I only…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:13 AM
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Exactly. An older man/woman who has more experience in the game can run laps around the younger person. If both people are looking for the same thing, and have clearly defined what that means, and what it looks like, and take actions that are congruent with that, then I can see it working out perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:41 AM
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I don’t, people are entitled their beliefs and whatever logical argument led them to reach that conclusion. What does abortion have to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:03 AM
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Please, pay for a hooker and leave the rest of us women alone. We’d all be grateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:46 AM
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I’m seeing a lot of splitting hairs here, but I’m willing to hear you out. If the problem here is that the man does not want to have to pay child support, then you are right, the only two options are to abstain from having sex with fertile women and/or sterilization. How is that in any way unfair? Children (and child support) are one of the risks that we take on when we have sex. We take calculated risks with each and every decision we make during our lifetimes. What you’re asking for is just an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:36 AM
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A. For both: be intentional and honest with yourself and with the other person. Figure out what you want and let those desires be known within the first 1-2 dates. For the ladies: shut up. Don’t talk about your relationship woes or childhood trauma. Ask fun and playful questions rather than interviewing him. You want to know HOW he thinks, rather than WHAT he thinks. For the men: be impressive, talk about the cool things you like to do and show off. Be a man, handle the situations, but be playfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 03:59 AM
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No. Very masculine women can and do birth children on a daily basis. Some very feminine women never have children. Having children is a trait of females, and has nothing to do with femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:58 AM
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I’m not shaming anyone or saying that their belief system is wrong. The premise is that Keanu is making a mistake because she’s older and not a supermodel, which is the type of woman that a high value men/celebrity should be going after according to RP philosophy. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that… everyone does it. What I mean by shallow thinking is that the thought process is not going any deeper, not that the people themselves are shallow. Their belief system says that HVM only go fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:29 PM
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It’s shallow thinking at it’s finest. They can’t consider the idea that a man could be interested in a relationship for any other reason aside from her being hot. High value men have more options. That’s it. He has more women available to him. Someone like Keanu has been through a lot and has likely moved beyond the primary reproductive aims/lizard brain parts of himself, and has determined that whatever it is about this woman is of value to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:25 PM
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IG stories/social media is carefully curated by the creator, lol. There are 24 hours in a day, not every single moment is streamed for the world to see. If all the woman wants to do is work, study, and hang out with friends, then more power to her. Life is short so we should spend it doing the things we enjoy. Have you tried to date someone with similar interests to you? Met them at a particular hobby shop or online group? Cause it seems to me like you want a girlfriend who has more of an advent…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:42 AM
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Lol, did you read anything I said? You’re proving my point. 9/10 times, these women that you are speaking to have a very full life outside of you. It’s just full of things that don’t interest you. Just, as I’m sure, you have hobbies that are supremely uninteresting to women. You’re absolutely right that women don’t need to do anything in order to get attention and get what we want, that’s part of what being a woman is. Things are just given to us. We are meant to be mysterious, men prefer it tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:42 PM
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Historically, men have always been the ones to impress. I don’t think there is a single animal species on earth where the female has to do anything in order to get a mate. Social media has little to do with this. I think your comment on girls not having interesting hobbies is a bit silly, lol. Since men are biologically programmed to try to impress US, and are naturally more competitive, just about any attempt to talk about “our” stuff is met either with deaf ears or a competition. I was out to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:53 PM

Yeah, the vibe I get from TRP is they want someone to order around and to do whatever they tell them to do. They forget, or just ignore the other side of the coin… you have to earn a woman’s trust, and prove time and time again that you’ve got it handled.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:53 AM
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Classic definition, meaning male definition? Because both parties are looking for the best that they can get, whether that is money, looks, status, how they make them feel, chemistry, family history, whatever. If men weren’t hypergamous, you would all marry men. Women have things that you don’t have, so that in itself is hypergamy. I don’t argue that women don’t typically marry down, as far as financial resources go. To me, it’s like arguing that young men don’t typically marry older/elderly wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:43 AM

I want to first define submissive, as it applies to me. I am a very submissive woman by my own definition. It means that you will do whatever it is that you are going to do, and I will accept it, because I don’t control you. If it doesn’t work for me, then I don’t want it. It also means that once you prove that you can handle it, I’ll trust your judgment. Some people take submissive to mean spineless, which doesn’t align with how I define it. In application, it’s quite the opposite. The submissi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:35 PM
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Men are hypergamous, women are hypergamous. Just for different things. I don’t understand this new obsession with women’s hypergamy, as if it is a new and foreign concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:13 PM
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Oh yeah, I have a story about this. I married a man after dating in person for about 4 months, and going LDR for a year. We got married, I quit my job, and we moved across the country within a week of his coming home. He was a dream man when we were dating in person, absolutely amazing. LDR was hard, as the time difference only allowed us to FaceTime for 1 hour a week. I blew it off cause he was in the military and probably too tired/stressed out to give me what I needed, and things would go bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:07 PM
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Very very true. Humans are highly emotional beings, and masculinity is very loving. I love masculinity and think that men are just great! I think that the whole “men are rational, women are emotional” idea that has been pushed out has been misconstrued. It’s just different, you know? Men are logical out in the world, but with the right woman, it’s 1000% emotional. I can’t think of anything MORE romantic, MORE loving, and MORE irrational than a man putting his own needs aside for the greater good…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 05:38 AM
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Lol, so so so true. Men, or males, have always been the romantic, impressive, and the ones to fall in love. I grew up with brothers and saw the lengths they went through for girls they liked, and even for me, it’s quite sweet. This has 0 to do with sex but more so on the emotional side of men, and how the presence of femininity changes things, lol. My dad recently had surgery and I visited him in the hospital. When I walked in, he immediately lit up and was SO happy, he called room service and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 02:21 AM
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What male interests does waiting serve? Not getting a woman pregnant, and tying yourself and your legacy to someone who may not be the best choice. Now you’re on the hook for life. The man himself contracting an incurable STD, or other STD. The woman herself might be crazy too, like stealing the fridge on her way out or something else. Hell she might be a long lost cousin, too. It takes two to tango, but only one to say no. Men don’t have to wait if they don’t want to, you can walk away…but you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 10:04 PM
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I get hit on almost every day. Leave the house, be present, look people in the eye, and talk to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:41 PM

I believe that the best seduction starts 24 hours in advance, but if you’re on a date I can see how that would be difficult. I like touching, so touching me on the date is a good way to start. Grabbing my hand when walking, gently touching my lower back, playing with my fingers, stroking my wrists and arms, putting your arm around me. I love it when a man smooches my hands and fingers, kinda like gomez addams does to morticia lol Massage is also very good, like grabbing my calf under the table a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 01:47 AM
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The feminine side of the relationship is largely intangible and therefore seen as something without value, especially in the western world and in this day and age. The men I date and consider eligible partners are looking for a homemaker, not just a SAHM. He provides the house, I turn it into a home.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 11:02 PM
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Very interesting! Men have definitely tried to do that, lol. Pushing for more information than I’m comfortable with disclosing, almost relentlessly. Asking about past trauma, my childhood, whether I have daddy issues… on a first date lmao!! Always leads to a fun and strange little power struggle, I’m dating a man who is an attorney and our conversations get very seductive lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:58 PM
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Nope, he ordered for me and did all the cutting and chasing down the waiter LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:05 PM
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Lol no, I have a different definition of what HVM means, and physical attractiveness is pretty low on the list. I don’t sit there like a dodo bird lol, I’m an active listener. “oh that’s SO interesting, please tell me more about that!” vs what you said. The conversation was flowing like crazy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:04 PM
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Absolutely - I’m not going to verbally vomit all over someone on a first date, we can get to know each other over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:59 PM
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I totally agree! Being beautiful gets us in the door and on the first date, but so many women kill the attraction the second we open our mouths. If only more women learned to literally just shut the f up and listen on dates. I was on a first date tonight with (what appears to be a “HVM”), and I probably said a grand total of 8 sentences LOL. He was begging to see me again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 08:24 AM
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You know it!! Why should I have to struggle lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:35 AM
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Absolutely - he makes more than enough to provide a good life for me, and for his family. There’s no competition when money is more than abundant…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:30 AM
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It’s a value that is important to me, being a provider and taking care of one’s family. Fortunately the men I date, and this man in particular, have more than enough to share. He’s buying her a house soon, so his children can live in comfort and safety. That means that mom needs to be safe and comfortable too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:26 AM
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Posts like these seriously trigger something in me and I can’t help myself, lol. Yes, it sucks that you run the risk of losing half your shit when you get divorced. My heart breaks for the men who lose everything and their kids after a divorce. But seriously, get a grip on reality and empower yourself as a man. I’m dating a man who went through a divorce, his wife got half and full custody of the kids. Guess what? He is still providing for her completely. He pays all of the bills. He wants his k…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:47 AM
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I don’t think most women are able to allow themselves to be competed for. In our dating culture, we go on 1-2 dates, take ourselves “off the market” by entering into a relationship, and then figure it out from there. Are we going to get married? Who knows, let’s move in together first and have a couple kids first. I practice rotational dating, so I am dating multiple men. I am asked out on dates on a near daily basis. N/A I am dating for the purpose of marriage and a family, so whether the men I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 05:46 PM
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Just like with everything else in the world, there’s a sliding scale and various levels to each relationship. Men have been providing for women since the dawn of time. There are some men who don’t have a woman to provide for, but the drive is still there. Or they just love spoiling women, whatever it is. Just yesterday I was asked out on a date by an older man in his 60s lol, we chatted in DMV line and he ended up paying for my registration. Just swooped over and put his credit card in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:14 AM
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I plan on keeping my last name when I get married! It’s a ton of paperwork, and I’m at the point in life where I have a lot of records and documents that would need to be changed, and it’s just not worth it. I’m incredibly lazy. I have a unique last name, and it’s quite cool, and I like it a lot. If I’m gonna go through all the pain and work to change it, I’d want it to be something cool and that evokes a good feeling, like Christmastime or something I’m not against going by the same last name s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:44 PM
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Why do people eat terrible food, even though we know it’s not good for us? Why do people smoke when we all know it leads to cancer? Addiction is a powerful thing, and the chemical cocktail that’s produced in abusive relationships is very addictive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 09:56 PM
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That’s my plan, so it wouldn’t be fair for me to expect anything else from the men, lol. If that’s not their jam, they can stop dating other women, or stop dating me. I have no control lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 03:45 AM
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You still have yet to give me a reason 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 02:02 AM
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Why I should care about who a man who I’m not married to is dating
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 12:08 AM
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Why should I care, again? You haven’t answered that yet
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 10:34 PM
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You still haven’t told me why I should care about what he does in his own time… My attitude vs reality? I’m living in this reality, where I don’t care about his dating life outside of my own. I have seen men out with other women, and I didn’t care then and I still don’t care lol. Is that how it is? That’s very interesting, as I have a rotation of men who take me out on dates, and we spend the majority of the time getting to know each other, and being friendly. I haven’t slept with any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 08:48 PM
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Would I?? I saw a man I’m dating on a date with another woman. I waved, lol. Why would I care what he’s doing? It’s like getting angry at a friend for hanging out with another friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:39 PM
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Absolutely! I feel that everyone should be free to do whatever they want, and if that includes seeing 100 women outside of me. It would actually raise a question in my mind if he wasn’t, in fact. I see these dates as interviews, if you will. We are seeing if our values line up and whether there is chemistry. Rather than vetting whether they are second date material or relationship material, I’m seeing if they are true husband, father, and life partner material. I would hope that he is doing the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 08:02 AM
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Is it really such a foreign concept to go on dates with several people before committing to one… for life? How do you propose we do matchmaking and choosing a partner for marriage, then? Edit: these men are free to date/sleep with/marry whoever they choose and in whatever way they feel most comfortable. Not my place to tell them what to do, especially when we are not married.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 07:10 AM
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I did have a fwb, once, and we ended up married.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:43 AM
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Sure, whatever it is. Sometimes they want a dinner companion, or someone to go to a concert with, or to go sightseeing, or they like being around me, whatever. What I’m giving to them isn’t made aware to me, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:11 PM
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It’s a little bit more nuanced than that. I always clearly communicate my desires and feelings when he’s coming towards me, or when he asks. When he does something that makes me happy, I show him that I’m happy. When he asks me where I want to go for dinner, I will either tell him (if I had something in mind) or ask him to give me options and pick from there. After my accident, the men were all asking how they could help, so I told them what I needed help with (hiring attorneys, bringing me stuf…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 09:57 PM
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I don’t follow the strategies to the letter, but I’ve been actively dating with the serious intention to get married. Allow for the space to let him step up and provide. Not just paying on dates, but all the amazing and wonderful ways that men provide for and protect us. I like traditionally gentlemanly behavior, so for example, I will stand by the door until he opens it for me, or stay seated until he comes over to open it up. Last night, I was on a date, and the man I was with jumped out of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 09:10 PM
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Definitely true! Every solution appears to produce more problems, haha. I’m dating multiple men with the intention of getting married, and the first time we have sex will be on our wedding night. Show interest by putting a ring on my finger, lol. Otherwise we are just playing pretend. That’s how it is for me, at least lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 11:06 PM
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Very little. I’m a pretty reasonable woman, so I can work with just about anything. As tall as me, 5’8. I wear heels almost every day so it’s more about how HE can handle having a taller woman. I think he was 5’7. We were either the same height on flat foot or I was slightly taller. 6’6. I didn’t like it because I had to crank my neck to kiss him, and he was scary when he got mad. 5’10. He was a male model.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:43 PM
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I’m inclined to agree with a lot of what you said! As a young and very attractive woman, I have had to do a lot of work to come to terms with the fact that 90% of the men in my field want to fuck me, lol. I’ve accepted it, and yes, it is flattering. But the problem comes in when I’m not looking for just sex, and they are. There has always been a tipping point where he’s ready to “cash in”, and I’m stuck in a weird position that’s super uncomfortable. I’m looking for marriage, so if a man feels l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:21 PM
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If you want to, sure!!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:12 PM
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No one said that men can’t be romanced, lol! I don’t see this kind of stuff as simping, I think simping is when a man is being ultra romantic and chasing after a woman who will ultimately never reciprocate. Like a chick online or a stripper or something. I’ve given this man the invitation to pursue, and I’m interested in seeing what he has to offer. I’m a living, breathing single woman, and I’m available, so like… let’s have some fun
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:31 PM
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No need to feel entitled, lol. It really IS nice!! There are people all around you that protect and provide for you, you just have to look for it. How cute is it that the garbage man comes by and takes out your garbage? Or the city workers that make sure you have water that comes to your house? Or that the freaking sun comes out every day to give you yummy nutrients and helps grow your food? That your mailman wakes up every day and puts his little boots on and brings your stuff to you? It’s cute…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:23 AM
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Quite the opposite - it encourages him to do it MORE! The male brain and the masculine energy place a higher value on something that they have invested in, and it’s how they fall in love. Providing is so much more than giving gifts, or paying bills. It’s helping, fixing, providing solutions, doing. It’s being the hero. When a man gets to fix the problem, AND be impressive, he feels like he’s on top of the world. They are constantly trying to find problems to fix, to provide, to be helpful. It’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:02 AM
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I totally understand and have been in your shoes before. I had to work on being a good recipient, and one of the fundamental things that I overcame was that by receiving from a man, I have completed the loop. He gives, I receive, and the transaction is over. This SOUNDS like I’m one of those entitled brats who accepts favors and does nothing in return, right? That all the men would resent me? Not at all. I go over the top when a man opens the door for me, lol. I act like he just gave me a check …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:16 AM
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There’s good and bad stuff from each, and can give good insight or solutions to problems. The big problem comes in when what/who you want and what you are a match for are in conflict. Want a sweet and submissive woman? You gotta have your shit together and be someone worth trusting. The sweet, beautiful, young, and chaste woman you desire won’t be interested in a manipulative man who spent years having casual sex with whoever. Want a man who is a great provider? You gotta be an amazing recipient…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:37 PM
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I believe it’s hard-wired into every man. Every little toddler boy I know wants to be helpful and be involved, all the little boys love to open doors for me and help me carry stuff, and share. It’s great to see. I believe that social conditioning actually removes this important gene, whether it’s mom not appreciating the bugs and leaves that the little guy brings in, or feminism, or a bad experience of rejection in junior high. I embody the loving/nurturing/healing role as best as I can out in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:17 PM
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All states have separate property. Separate property is anything owned or purchased prior to the marriage. Separate property is not subject to division. A prenup doesn’t protect assets from your spouse taking it, it simply declares them as separate property… so let’s say that a married man gets sued by someone and doesn’t have the insurance to pay for the settlement. The woman has a house that she bought before the marriage and uses it as a rental property. If they have a prenup in place that st…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 08:37 AM
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You don’t lose half of what you’ve earned in your lifetime, unless you get married at 18 when you have nothing. The only stuff that is subject to division are the assets that are acquired during the marriage. Anything acquired before the marriage belongs to the person who bought it, so if you buy a house at 22 and get married at 30, and then divorce at 45, you get to keep that house. Now, if you buy a house at 22, marry at 28, and do a ton of renovations and increase the value of the house by 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 09:00 PM
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Of course!! Men are great!!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 07:27 PM
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I’m accomplished, and surrounded by men who provide for me… so idk what you’re on about lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:36 PM
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Human beings are inherently capable of solving our own problems, we are highly intelligent beings and live in a world that is full of information and opportunities. My point is that he simply provides solutions to her problems. My biggest problem is that I get stressed out about things… a man can’t fix the emotional side, but he can fix the physical side. He can do the grocery shopping, handle the car repairs, give me a massage, carry heavy stuff, build the furniture, whatever it is that will ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 08:26 AM
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This is just my experience, so take it as you will. I love men and masculinity. I think it’s super important. Masculinity is the light, femininity is the dark. Men are so loving, caring, gentle, tender, funny, protective, sweet, romantic. Men can run up a mountain on 0 sleep and be just fine. It’s wonderful and so much fun. I believe that men can still be providers with an accomplished woman, because providing is more than just money… it’s helping to solve problems. If he makes enough money to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 07:52 AM
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You’re onto something… :p
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:07 PM
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Exactly! Most, if not all, men want to be with someone who has some kind of ambition. That’s just normal. I don’t see any reason why he wouldn’t, but that could just be my own limiting belief. High standards are relative, so I could list them all out, and you could say that they are unrealistic or say they’re low. Ultimately, I want someone trustworthy, intelligent, with a providers mindset. I’m tall so it would be cool if he was taller than me, and I like bald heads. There are other things, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:06 PM
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Why? Because he wants to?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:58 PM
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I’m banned from FDS but I did sorta follow it a couple years ago, before things got toxic and weird. I’ll happily show physique and put my money where my mouth is. The pre-weird FDS was helpful to me, and I get a kick out of the memes. However, I don’t think it’s appropriate or helpful to label someone as high value or low value as everyone wants different things. My (terrible and toxic and abusive to ME) ex is probably someone’s dream partner, so I’m not going to put him in a box… and I do my b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:19 PM
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That’s soju for ya
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:54 PM
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It entirely depends on what you want, your willingness to adapt to the situation, and overcoming whatever mental programming you have. Marriage can be devastating to both men and women. It can be the absolute best decision and benefit both people. It can be devastating for one and beneficial for the other. Same goes for divorce. Same goes for long term relationships, hookups, friends with benefits, friendships, whatever. A woman can divorce her husband, keep all the children, house, money, cars,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:20 PM
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Preliminary injunctions (the law that makes her have to stay in place, the freeze as you called it) go into IMMEDIATE effect ONLY for the party that filed the petition. The injunctions go into effect for the other party AFTER they have been served. If mom hasn’t been served, the law doesn’t apply to her. It’s surprisingly easy to avoid service. It’s the job of the person who filed to keep track of the other person’s whereabouts, and if she disappears without a trace… well, tough shit. I know thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:44 AM
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Eh, I feel like I could go either way on this issue, but I mostly fall on the opposing side. Reproduction is unfair, and there is simply no way to make it fair. women only produce 1 egg per month, our window of fertility is shorter, and we have to grow and labor and birth the kid. From the moment of conception, our bodies undergo substantial changes and it can take years to completely heal from the whole enterprise. Sometimes the changes last a lifetime, and there is always a risk of dying durin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:19 AM
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That’s awesome! A good suit is well worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:31 AM
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I don’t, but I have yet to encounter a man who has gone out and bought a suit for a first date. I’m sure they’re out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:59 AM
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Frankly it’s up to him to decide whether or not he feels like the investment is of equal or lesser value, not me. Everyone has a different definition of their own investment. For one of the men I’m dating, time is his most valuable resource. He’s happy to pay for whatever I want to do, cause he has plenty of money and paying for dinner is like nothing. It’s more important that the time we spend together is fun, playful, and a break from work. I’m dating another man who doesn’t have a ton of mone…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:55 AM
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I can guarantee that I’m spending more if I’m on a date with a man lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:43 AM
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I’ve been on the dating market since November of 2020, and was in a terrible motorcycle accident earlier this year that had me hospitalized! I’m finally cleared to walk and I’m feeling better, so I’m able to go on dates again, yay! I have a roster of men that I go on dates with. One bought me the motorcycle that I ended up crashing on, lol. I had daily visits from my various male suitors while in the hospital, and since coming home, these men had to do SOMETHING to help me out in order to see me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:21 AM
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I can see how you would get that impression, but it’s not correct. I look good, that’s enough to get my meal paid for. I invested in him by taking the time to look amazing. If all else fails and we don’t click romantically, we end up breaking even. If the meal is $100, I spent at least that by just getting ready. Fortunately, I have enough social skills that no matter what, the date will be fun. Terrible food? We can talk about the weirdest food we’ve ever eaten, or share travel stories, or talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:52 PM
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If that’s what you’re looking for, then go for it! I love a man who stands in his truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:25 PM
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Definitely!! Work within your budget.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:37 PM
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Note: I never pay on dates, and 99% of the time, I don’t pay for ANYTHING if I’m with a man. My investment on a first date is myself. Before you get triggered, let me explain. If a man asks me on a dinner date, I assume that he wants to impress me, so I give him every possible opportunity to be impressive. I put a lot of my own money and time into looking good. Men are visual creatures, so I impress him by looking amazing. Two squirts of my perfume costs the same as my half of the dinner, not to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:53 PM
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I think that everyone is allowed to have whatever standards and preferences they like. Standards are unwavering, like “must not be racist” or “must not be obese”, something that if discovered down the line would lead to a break up or divorce. “Must be faithful and not cheat”, “must not drink alcohol”, honestly it could be anything. Must have long hair. No ugly toenails. Must make 100k. Whatever. Preferences are things that are changeable given the circumstances. I prefer men who are taller than …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:34 AM
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I think there are different types of nagging and different ways that women (me especially) consider mommy mode. There’s good mommy mode and bad mommy mode. Good mommy is nurturing, a soft place to lay your head, and unconditional love. Feeling like home. Good mommy. Bad mommy is trying to fix problems and finish raising up someone else’s kid. It’s when our loving and nurturing characteristics are being misappropriated, when we get turned into the mans only and sole source of emotional management…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:55 AM
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They can have sex with whoever they want, lol. Not every woman wants to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:52 PM
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Ah, this is wonderful to read! I’m the type of woman that puts effort into looking great every day. Hair, makeup, outfit, shoes, the whole thing. Even if I have 0 plans to leave my house. Hell, I was hospitalized after a motorcycle accident and still put makeup on. I appreciate a man who does the same! You wouldn’t catch me wearing workout clothes to anywhere besides the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:43 AM
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Definitely! I don’t think that women should seriously date for marriage until after 24-25, in most cases. We have the most options when we’re young, but I feel like you need a little more life experience before settling down into marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:32 AM
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Definitely definitely true!! I know a lot youngish men who meet all of my criteria for a life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:00 AM

I believe that everyone should do what they want, and I don’t judge anyone who has a different belief system than I do. For me, I like being feminine and girly. I see a lot of benefits in my daily life experience that come from appearing in a certain way. The world at large prefers feminine energy and feminine women to independent women. They prefer beautiful and feminine women. When I’m in a dress and looking good, I can get just about anything I want from people. I have come to learn that the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:05 AM
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I’ll just jump in here as a woman who dates older and give my thoughts. I’m 27, and date 10 years older minimum. The men I date are actually more active and adventurous than I am, one is 44 and goes helicopter skiing every weekend, lol. It’s nice because all these men have been there and done that, and are now settling down. Two men I see were rock stars and toured the world with their bands. They’ve done a lot of adventures, jumping out of planes and open water scuba diving and shit like that. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:46 AM

Exactly!! So long as you look after whatever facial hair you have, you’ll be fine. My only preference is that you don’t scratch me or give me a rash from smoochin. I run a delicate ecosystem over here… so if it’s scratchy, it’s gotta go, either grow it more or shave it off or whatever you do with beards lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:22 AM
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I’m applying this situation to reality, so ALL the men I date have been married before. Only one has kids. I don’t expect most men to have 0 dating experience by 35, but I’m sure there are some out there. Life is one big experiment, so what works for one won’t work for others. I decided to eliminate the biggest obstacles and problems, and have found that dating is easier this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:07 PM
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I believe that you make it as hard as you want to be. Both men and women have problems with dating, and it’s almost impossible to compare the two of them and see who has it worse. So many problems would be solved if people just figure out what they want, and only date people who want the same thing. Want to ultimately get married and have a family? Become a good future husband/wife yourself, and then go out and date with the intention to get married. Put yourself in the arena of eligible bachelo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:00 PM
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I absolutely agree. Women mature faster than men, we age faster, and our window of fertility is shorter. Careers take a while to build, and it takes a while to get established and ready to support a family. I’m in my 20s and only date men who are 10 years older. I’ve tried to seriously date men in my own age group and I end up losing respect pretty quickly. I don’t want to feel like I’m further along in life than the man I’m with, that puts me in the position of mommy and I’m not into that. I st…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:02 PM
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If that’s what you believe then who am I to tell you otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 09:48 PM
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It’s the first profession, no? Every woman has a price, imo. For some it’s dinner at Applebee’s, others it’s a marriage license. $10 on OF, or after he spends x number of hours getting to know her. He may just be attractive enough and she might be lonely enough. I get the frustration from dudes because they think it’s not fair, but honestly, that’s just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 05:55 AM
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It’s less than 10% of divorce cases… majority of those are after a long term marriage where the wife is uneducated, older, disabled, and unemployable. The courts don’t care who was the earning spouse and who wasn’t, because the money belongs to both people equally. It is assumed that the non-earning spouse is contributing to the household in some capacity that is equally valuable to earning money. Men who are willing to provide for a woman and family recognize that contribution, otherwise they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 08:12 PM
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This whole thing about not putting women on a pedestal is so bizarre to me as a woman, lol. In my experience with dating very masculine and “alpha” men, they LOVE it when I’m in the one-up position, when I’m up on my pretty princess pedestal. They go crazy for it. It makes the hunt and chase that much more fun. It’s not that I’m better than them, it’s the energy of “I’m open to seeing what you can do, so show me” and that I put myself first, so they gotta work to keep my attention. If I step off…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:55 AM
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I barely even consider it a marriage, but I was legally married for 4 months and separated/divorcing for 10. I can blame it on any number of things. He was bad news from our first date, and I saw the red flags, but I guess I was either codependent or just curious. We were fundamentally incompatible with each other, on almost every level. Different and opposing political views, sense of humor, goals, aspirations, dreams, and expectations for marriage. Both extremely stubborn and absolutely unwill…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 12:51 AM
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The average man would not be paying alimony, though. The facts of the case would come in to play, as well as the judges discretion. Been married for less than 10 years? Not gonna happen. Married for 50? Yeah, it’s likely. The average dude making 100k isn’t going to have to pay, and if by some miracle he does, judges are favoring a temporary/short term alimony while the divorce proceedings are going on, maybe a couple months after. Once again, do you not understand how marriage and divorce works?…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 10:43 PM
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I’m hearing what you’re saying, it makes a lot of sense… if a woman loses sexual attraction, then obviously the marriage is going to go downhill. I’m just challenging the premise that the lack of desire is due to a propensity for serial monogamy, and it’s relation to divorce laws. How familiar are you with how divorce laws are actually used and applied in modern divorce? It’s very difficult for a woman to be awarded (it’s a legal term, once a court takes on jurisdiction of a lawsuit) alimony in …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 06:25 PM
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Sure, men can pay a whore. He has to pay her, though… which is literally appeasing the woman. She wouldn’t have sex with you unless you were paying her… I believe you are missing the point here. Also, lol @ a small percentage of men causing violent upsets and economic collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 06:44 AM
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I suppose we are talking strictly in theory here, but a lot of what you said does make some sense. I tend to think that we go beyond our most basic instincts, and hopefully choose partners who will remain open minded about future problems. Divorce laws don’t encourage serial monogamy, I’m going to need an example of that because I simply don’t understand. Divorce laws are in place for maximum benefit of the community (marriage) and the children while dissolving the legal community itself. There’…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 06:36 AM
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It’s 2021, women can go to a sperm bank and pick out the donor from a binder. We don’t need to have a marriage, relationship, or do anything besides get some $ and go to the sperm bank. We get the pick of the men, too. Speaking of $, we are now able to work and provide for ourselves fully. So much so that men are asking us to pay half of the bills. We don’t even need you for sexual pleasure, we have been given clitorises and hitachi magic wands. Relationships? We have emotional support from othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:37 AM
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I don’t know if divorce laws are the cause, I’d argue that relationship dynamics have changed… In the old days, two people got married based on picking the best available option, had children, and that was it. Now we have more people to choose from, and we put a ton of responsibility on the other person. We now have to be best friends, confidants, entertainment, validation, therapists, sexually compatible, business partners, etc. In one person. For life. It’s just more work. The man must continu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:26 AM
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Very true! And within this dynamic lies one of the great paradoxes… the submissive one holds all the power! Men/male/dom very much wants to earn the trust of the woman/female/submissive, so they pick up on the things that they like, and then do the things that make them happy… and then take the credit by being the leader. Example: He picks the restaurants when we can’t decide. 10 times out of 10, he picks my favorite restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:45 PM
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I think there is a HUGE disconnect between actual submission and the weird red pill submission. I’d agree that MOST men like submissive women, and I personally define that as a trusting woman with a trustworthy man. She’s submissive in that she will LET you do things for her, and she trusts you to take the lead, cause she knows you’ve got it. Not a woman without a backbone who will do whatever they say. They say they like that, but they actually don’t. They feel like women should be submissive w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 06:44 PM
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I do, because I like flirting and I think it’s fun. I flirt with men, women, kids, old people. Just this morning I was at brunch and the table next to me had a little baby, maybe 18 months old, and he kept staring at me so I’d coo and make funny faces. He tried to share his food with me, it was cute. So I flirted with the baby, the mom, and the dad. It’s just fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 06:37 PM
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Nature has a way of balancing itself out. Life isn’t fair, reproduction isn’t fair, but there’s harmony. The special treatment is balanced by bad treatment, too. For every free meal, I’ve also gotten a not so free meal - I’ve been given opportunities just for my looks, and nothing more. My intellectual contributions to projects are unheard, because I’m just there to be a pretty face… sounds like a dream, but it’s painful to be valuable for just one thing and ignored for all my other great qualit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:58 PM
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That’s fine! I’ve been told by every man I date that they really appreciate that I let them handle stuff, and do stuff for me. I’ve only had one man ask to split the bill, and when I declined, he blew out a sigh of relief. He said he likes paying for dates, but feels like he has to ask because of feminism. I don’t show up on dates looking for a free meal, I show up to have fun and be impressed, and I always show a ton of appreciation for the date. Regardless, I think it’s awesome that you like b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 06:20 AM
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I don’t pay on dates, or for anything, if I’m with a man. Dinner, Starbucks drive through, tickets, etc. If he asks if I want to split the bill, I say that I’m old school. If he puts up a stink, I’ll pay, and not see him again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:23 AM
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I’m the same age as this lady and I’ve certainly experienced all those things. Married, separated, recently separated, filing the papers soon, still living together cause it’s complicated… I’ve had guys want to move in together, after 3 dates, before even kissing with tongue lol Now I just sit back and observe on dates, ask questions and see what they say. I wait for actions, too, cause I’ve learned that men will say ANYTHING if they think it’ll get them closer to their goal, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:46 AM
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I think we are confusing the issue here. Building wealth has 0 to do with providing income, lol. You dont have to work in order to build wealth, it has to do with making everyday decisions that benefit you in the long run. As far as your example of Russia, the large majority of the world has a traditional view of marriage. The man provides and the woman receives. And yeah, that’s a thing that happens, which is why it’s important to build wealth outside of what the man brings in, and marry using …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:00 AM
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That’s definitely true, I think that the jobs should be divided based on who is better at it and who enjoys it more. I don’t think that gender has anything to do with it either, like men aren’t automatically smarter or better than women at certain things, but I’ve found that utilizing and understanding the male brain has been helpful in my endeavors lol. Just for fun’s sake, like peeking behind the curtain. Example: your husband does that because he’s “hunting” for the best thing and the best pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 05:11 AM
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I totally get what you’re saying. I’m dating a man who provides for me entirely, he’s a high earning man and has more than enough to take care of me, and he likes to share his hard work with those that he cares about. The simple way to explain this is that he, and most men who are in the providing roles, doesn’t care about how much I spend on the little stuff. He would rather be left out of it, tbh. He doesn’t want to be bothered with the minute details and have to think about whether buying a P…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 04:06 AM
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We have no history of dating, it’s a really new concept to humanity. Women would pick partners using logic, men would pick who to pursue using emotions. They would get married, and grow in love. This still occurs in some circles, but a lot of people are picking based on chemistry and then hoping for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 03:23 AM
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Sure, you could say that it’s a more modern variant, I’m responding to all the things you pointed out as potential downsides. Traditional gender roles are not set in just one way - the 50s housewife was still expected to take care of the home, but to take care of herself too. I stated that if she chooses not to work, she still needs to build wealth. That is what the “traditional woman” did by taking care of herself, her home, and the children. The husband wouldn’t go out and buy diamond rings fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:04 AM
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That’s why we love provider men!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:05 AM
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Absolutely. I’ve gotten special treatment since I hit puberty, even before then, cause I was a beautiful kid. Free food, free service, people falling over themselves to help me. I get away with a lot of tomfoolery as well, and most of the negative qualities are seen as endearing. I look a lot younger than I am, so everyone thinks I’m naive and innocent. People think I’m dumb. Some may call it mansplainy or sexist, but I just use it to my advantage, so any/all bratty behavior is seen as cute. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:02 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 08:12 PM
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Those are all possibilities. In an ideal situation, the man would choose a career that he enjoys that can pay the bills, and make smart financial decisions prior to getting married and having a family. Living below his means, etc. The career pays the bills, so there is room for fun. That way, the problems you presented for the man are mitigated. I define a provider as one who provides the essentials, food shelter clothing transportation and medical. He provides the nest, the cave, the physical p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 06:33 PM
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I totally agree. I believe that everyone should be free to do what they want, so to each their own, but I think there are huge benefits to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:47 PM
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This seems very focused on one woman in particular, not women in general. Everyone has attractive and unattractive qualities and aspects. A beautiful woman can get away with more unattractive qualities, of course. And lol @ women not having personalities. If that’s your perception, then you probably haven’t been close enough to a woman for her to open up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 03:06 AM
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I can definitely see that working, too! There are so many variations on the bills/chore matrix and as long as both people are happy, I’m happy for them. There is so much more to life than bills and chores that it shouldn’t be a big deal, you know? I’m dating a man who is a provider and a very high earner, and he just simply pays for everything. I do all the idea work, and he handles the rest. God, isn’t that the dream? I state my desires, he says no at first, and then does it anyway. I wish that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:05 AM
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I think the thing that people forget is that masculine/feminine energy is a moment by moment thing. We all have masculine energy and we all have feminine energy. What’s feminine about me right now: I am a woman. I am wearing a skirt. I am wearing makeup. I have long, painted nails. I look very much like a woman. I have a cutely decorated house. But right now, I’m also in my masculine. I’m wearing tennis shoes. I’m using a box cutter to break down boxes, but I’m organizing the pieces, and making …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 11:08 PM
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Ooo!! That sounds awesome!! I don’t understand how any of it works, but it’s super cool nonetheless!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 10:18 PM
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I just realized that this was a question for men. Whoops!! You’re absolutely right, all of that and more… plus, I have a natural affinity for trains and construction equipment, not many people are willing to stop and stare along with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 09:14 PM
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IMO a relationship like this where everything is split 50/50 is more of a roommate situation than a real relationship, with romance and passion. I have had successful relationships with men when we both have clear and defined roles. There’s no guesswork, no hard feelings, and we both feel good about it. Of course, we have to have a functioning household, and I believe that people should do what they like to do and not do things that they hate doing. I hate working for others. I hate when the thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 09:11 PM
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I get along well with engineers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:12 PM
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I’m just being coy… :p A man I’m dating bought a brand new motorcycle for me as a Valentine’s Day gift. I gave him a full frontal hug, even pushed my boobs onto him. Let him kiss me for longer than 5 seconds, too. Men love a chase and a challenge, that’s my gift and how I’m nice, lmao 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 06:41 PM
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Nah I get you, I absolutely hate working and being able to quit and be free from the 9-5 would be considered the greatest gift. If a man can do that for me AND not be a total nightmare to be around? I’m in heaven. Take my biggest problem and solve it, and I’ll be nice. Appreciative, pleasant, I might even do nice things here and there. We’re meant to work together after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 09:08 AM
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It’s irrational to live in a home surrounded with moldy dishes, when the problem would be solved by throwing them all away. Trust me, it wasn’t my proudest moment, but I had to put a stop to the power struggle real quick or I may have lost my mind entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 09:00 AM
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Oh no, you have to pay for drinks AND the bills? Poor thing. You have to protect and provide? Make some little baby sperm... and work? If only you had some evolutionary advantage hardwired in your DNA to be hunters, more muscle mass, and superior problem solving skills. I’m sure that would make it easier for you. Trust me, I’ll love and be affectionate with my partner, but the second a man wants to complain about having to go to work is the second I lose interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 08:54 AM
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You seem to be skimming over the details here in favor of calling me abusive, which is fine. Do you think I didn’t try out the range of “stable behaviors” before tossing all the dishes? What’s more stable: Asking him to clean up after himself like I’m his mommy, and Treating a grown man like a 3 year old who needs to be taught how to put his food in the trash, and how to put a dirty dish in the sink Living in squalor with disgusting food covered dishes strewn about the house for weeks until he d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 06:38 AM
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I don’t think this necessarily is a love language problem as it is a male brain vs female brain problem. Women require consistency, and men are natural problem solvers and try to find the best and most efficient way. I will have the same reaction to a single rose as I do with 50 roses, same goes with purses... and acts of service, quality time, physical touch, and words of affirmation... so what matters is the FREQUENCY. I’ve known SO many men who will do one action, and then check the box, thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:52 AM
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Why does it matter who did it first? And women being the only benefactors of this modern culture? Lol As far as women abandoning our gender roles... LOL. We still have to bear the children 100% of the time, men can’t ever do that... there’s no rule anywhere that says the female sex has to do anything besides being the ones who literally bring life into the world. If you didn’t protect and provide for women, you didn’t get to have women. If you didn’t bring back enough food for us, we would be in…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:21 AM
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You’re free to call me abusive, lol. I’m not a little slave girl, at the beck and call of my husband. He had many opportunities to be nice to me... he could clean his own dishes, or even put it in the sink for one of us to do later, but instead he decided to leave them around the house covered and caked in food. And expected me to be the one to clean up after him. So I did! No more dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 02:26 AM
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You’re welcome!! It sounds like you have done a ton of inner work, just like me, and it seems like we are both coming at this from a healed state. It’s amazing how two people can come together with completely different experiences and still come to the same conclusion!! I was trapped in the mindset of “this situation keeps happening, and I don’t know how to make it stop”, so I was focused on remedying the SITUATION. I already had the foundational skills of “zooming out”, understanding that other…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:31 PM
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This is absolutely true!! Men are designed to conserve energy just in case the problem goes away. It’s the hunter, warrior aspect, I think. Procrastination is an inherent masculine/male trait. A woman can say “I need you to take out the garbage, it would help me so much if you took care of the dishes, etc” a hundred times over, but he’s not going to care until there is a deadline or something else at stake. Men love and respond well to natural consequences, and they have to SEE what the result o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:54 PM
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I understand your position and I can see how it makes sense. It’s not PC and it goes against the current ideas about victim hood and abuse, etc etc. I have found a huge amount of peace with my own traumas by taking personal responsibility for them. Once you discover that it was you all along, you have the power to change it. It’s hard, almost impossible, to relay this message to kids and young people because they really don’t have enough knowledge or experience to understand it. No, it’s not a 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:22 PM
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I totally understand your position and it makes a lot of sense! For me at least, and for some other women I’m sure, I tend to treat dates as a time to impress each other. I always get up and get ready, put time into my outfits and hair and makeup, just as a rule. When I go on dates, I always take a little extra time to get ready and make sure I look my best. Nice perfume, great outfit, might get my nails done, go get a blowout. That’s my investment. It costs money for me to do all those extra th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:55 PM
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I’ve read about both tradcon and RP, just for informations sake. I subscribe to a “modern traditional” philosophy, pulling from different cultures, evolutionary theories, biology, etc etc. I mainly want a relationship that is free of as many obstacles as possible, and reducing the suffering of both parties so that we may live and grow together. The most basic of which is polarity. Man is the provider and protector. He can provide me with shelter, food, clothing, wisdom, and make sure that I am s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 11:27 PM
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Ugh, I really don’t like this self-defeating mindset. Just today, I was approached by 3 different men, and I was simply out running errands. None of them were creepy, I didn’t have a mental breakdown, I didn’t call the police. It’s just friendly talking. That’s the first step. Gas station. I was pumping gas, no one else was around, he asked me what happened to my leg (I’m in a walking boot, motorcycle accident lol) and we chatted for a while. Cost Plus World Market. We were standing in line, he …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 11:10 PM
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Thank you!! Life is a gift and I want to be appreciative and take advantage of what I’ve been given! I’m focused on my own objective, so while I have dated in my own bracket and have had these discussions, we have not been a match for one reason or another. I have a lot of goals and ambitions outside of getting married and having a family, I’m really looking for a life partner so it’s just putting together all the pieces. I know that men are men and not babies, I don’t need to spoon feed you. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 11:21 PM
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Dating older men? Yes and no. I’m not going to date a dude in his 50s, 60s, or 70s, the costs outweigh the benefits. But I’m not going to date men my own age, mid 20s, or even into the early 30s, unless they are ready for what I’m looking for. I’m very attractive, fit, juicy, healthy, happy, youthful, secure, and yummy, so I get a lot of attention from ALL ages (I got asked out by a 17 year old yesterday, lol!!) so I get to choose the best from what is available. Better to just remove myself fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 10:15 PM
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I date with the intention for marriage and with my future children in mind, so no. I don’t date men so they can buy me shit, there’s no transaction happening. In this case, he asked me out on a date, I said I was too busy and stressed cause I needed to buy stuff because I’m moving. He offered to meet me at Target cause he wanted to see me still. I like provider minded men, it bodes well for a future family. I want to have kids with a man who wants to be a father, and can prove to me that he is g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 08:27 PM
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I completely understand your position! I’m not going to try to convince you to change it, though. I’m in my 20s and dating men around your age and in your similar position. That’s the caveat, I’m in my prime, you/they are in their prime, let’s make some magic happen. I imagine it’s different for men once they have seen me, smelled me, spent time with me. The age gap and accomplishment gap just adds to the magic... I’m not their equal, lol. They get to be the leader. Each of the men I have on my …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 02:59 PM
1

No, I’d have to refuse receiving anything from the homeless, I feel. I don’t take from the poor!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 07:50 AM
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I don’t want to fuck anybody, tbh. Maybe Bill Gates but I’m undecided
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 06:51 AM
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Idk, greencard? Tax benefits? Insurance discount? Family unit? Religion? Joint Costco membership? Someone to come home to? BAH increase if he’s military? To convince his family that he’s not gay? Because he’s dating a woman who desires to get married? Because she’s got a gorilla grip pussy? He desires someone to provide for so he can stop spending his money on stupid stuff like xbox and shitty gifts for his mom? Who knows
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:46 AM
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...because he wants to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:29 AM
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I offer food or drink to anyone who enters my home, it’s just basic courtesy. If you’re not offering to at least feed the woman who you plan on fucking, that says more about your own misogyny than anything I could say. I even offer to feed the homeless people in my town when I can, no one should go hungry. There’s no transaction here, either. The only way a man is going to get to see any of my value is with a ring and a marriage license, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:26 AM
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Very true! I have put in a lot of work to get myself sorted, spent time asking friends and family members for information about things to look for in a good provider and husband, got my yearly check ups. I even talk to my little eggs to get em all pumped up. Like, listen here ladies, keep being amazing and juicy. We’ve got a job to do and I’m not going to let you down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:25 AM
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Hahaha! So true!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:08 AM
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It could be any number of things, really. Every woman is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:01 AM
2

That’s very true!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 11:37 PM
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Do I? Or do I think that men should be considerate of their sex partner, make sure there’s nothing catastrophic going on, and at minimum offer her some food?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 11:36 PM
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I don’t know if worthy is the right word, but I get the message! I don’t see many men my age building for their future wives, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 11:17 PM
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A girl can dream, right? A guy I’m dating tried to make a move on me while I was hospitalized after a motorcycle accident. IV tubes sticking out. Beeping heart monitor. Literally on the hospital bed with the remote control uppy-downy thing. Not to mention the BROKEN PELVIS. I get that he’s man, and I was vulnerable and whatnot, but come on LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 09:09 PM
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Sure, i get what you’re saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 09:01 PM
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I agree! I believe that most, if not all men are capable of being great husbands, providers, protectors, and fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 08:54 PM
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Safety and comfort go hand in hand. It’s difficult to verbalize a feeling... If the relationship at large is unsafe or uncomfortable, if he’s putting me in a dangerous position or situation, not considering my best interests, if I feel that I am trapped or that I have no escape from the thing that is making me unsafe, if I voice my desires and they fall on deaf ears, etc etc etc. I have to feel comfortable (as in, I know the all the risks, they are open and on the table) that I can be safe (as i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 08:50 PM
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Definitely! I want to have children, and I wouldn’t consider having a child with a man who doesn’t have fatherly qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:57 PM
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To women who are looking for that, sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:55 PM
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Because he wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:54 PM
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You’re free to interpret whatever I said however you want. I don’t like being around men who make me feel unsafe, so I don’t have sex with them. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:50 PM
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That’s the exact purpose of masculinity. To figure things out. There’s no conditioning involved if a man is naturally masculine and enjoys problem solving. Isn’t this the problem that men are complaining about? Masculine women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:47 PM
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I think very few people marry strictly as a transaction, but I’m sure it does happen. You date them, listen to what they are saying, watch their actions. If a man just wants me for my looks, and is willing to bind himself to me in a legal contract in order to have access to them, then he is a fool. Relationships are more than that, so you figure out what you want, assess for compatibility, and then see what happens. If a woman is rejecting everything about you aside from your money, that’s how y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:44 PM
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Depends on the woman! Some women can feel safe after knowing someone for 5 minutes going purely off initial attraction, some women can be attracted but don’t feel safe and comfortable until after marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:33 PM
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I can’t speak for her, but sexuality for women is generally more complicated than that. If I’m available to have sex any time the man wants to, at the drop of the hat, then I’m not doing enough in my life. Men get horny and I have a life. I’m not going to have sex with just any old guy who makes me feel safe and secure. That’s literally the bare minimum for men, don’t make me feel unsafe, lol. Men are like microwaves, women are like ovens. I’m down for a fun quickie or a nooner every so often, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 06:09 PM
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A mans financial status says a lot more about him than just being able to buy expensive shit and purses. I’m a relationship minded woman, and have been building myself up to become a woman and a wife. Investing time, money, and energy into healing my trauma, making sure I’m healthy, all that stuff. It’s attractive when a man has been doing the same thing. Building up his own life to take care of his family. Getting the degree, the job, the house, the car. The good insurance, the retirement, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 05:35 PM
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I think that’s a valid concern! Hopefully the woman can trust that the man is going to be a man, and figure something out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 05:20 PM
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It’s damn near impossible to get wet and juicy when you’re worried about whether you’ll be able to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 05:12 PM
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I understand your position as well! I would argue that some of us genuinely do it for ourselves, to make us FEEL sexier and more desirable to US. This might be woo-woo, but putting on makeup is my most favorite part of my day. It’s using my womanly energy to create and transform, an act of true audacious vanity, narcissistic self love. But not in a bad way. Like, yeah, my life is literally SO easy that I have the time and audacity to put on blush to make my sweet juicy cheeks even MORE blushy. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 04:58 PM
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Eh, as one of those women (minus the fake boobies), I can honestly say that I do those things because I like doing them. I get more dressed up to go out to lunch with my girlfriends than I do when I go out on dates, women appreciate the looks I put together way more than men do! Y’all don’t notice when I have fancy eyeliner on, but girls do, and it’s fun to show off my skills! Hell, I was hospitalized for a couple weeks from a motorcycle accident and I still put makeup on every day, and tried to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:19 AM
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That’s very true! Both/all genders, sexes, identities, and expressions are capable of masculine and feminine traits and energies. It’s an energy and an embodiment. Masculine doesn’t mean male, feminine doesn’t mean female. Masculine is action, doing, giving... feminine is being, receiving, flowing. However, you are free to use whatever language you prefer and like I said, it’s all open to interpretation. I’ve dealt with men who have feminine energy as I define it, who want APPEAR to be macho rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 07:37 PM
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I think that my message didn’t land correctly... I don’t mean YOU singlehandedly take care of the collective US, I mean the collective masculinity takes care of the collective us. I understand that position as well! Some women are being absolute brats, lol. I’m hearing what you’re saying, it makes a lot of sense. I was one of those alpha and competitive women, once. Once. I felt like I was giving up control when men were doing their natural things, and consistently rejected their attempts to pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:39 PM
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That’s exactly how it should be and it absolutely makes sense! Sharing is good, we depend on you to help take care of the collective “us”. But you should absolutely take care of yourself, a woman who appreciates you, and your own FIRST and with the majority of your energy. That’s just how the flow works, right? You do these wonderful things, like imagine if we were in a tribe... you go out hunting and bring back some meat. Of course you’d share some with the people who either don’t have a man ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:10 PM
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I believe that every person has inherent worth, so worthless isn’t even a question in my mind!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:47 PM
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I totally understand your position and can definitely see where you’re coming from! I believe that everyone should be totally free to change or not change if they desire to. Healthy and healed masculinity is a wonderful thing that should be praised. The world needs more of it. I have had many men trade plates with me, give me their jacket when I’m cold, open up my jars for me, take out my garbage, build the roads that we drive on, protect the weak, and so much more. It’ll be a sad day if women h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 05:33 AM
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That’s totally fine, I understand your point! I think it’s just crazy how two people can have a totally different perspective on things. It’s very nuanced and these dynamics can get quite complicated, but I suppose that’s just the human condition. I’m explaining the philosophy of the thing, just going to a different level. Like... is the greenery in front of my house technically considered a bush, or is it a shrub? Does it matter? Not really, but it’s something to think about. Sex is sex, no mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 05:19 AM
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I think you’re misplacing all of this as a power dynamic issue, when it’s not. That’s what polarity is all about, that there are two sides to every coin. There is power in being dominant, but there is also no power without a submissive. The submissive one holds the power, because without it, the dominant one cannot dominate. That’s where the magic of polarity comes in, because you can’t have attraction without polarity. Two positive magnets repel each other, right? If two people are both trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:58 AM
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Ok, let me change my analogy here. Action is dominant, passive is submission. Doing is dominant, being is submissive. You riding a man is a dominant act, but the mere fact that you are the one being penetrated in the first place makes the entire sexual encounter submissive. A person can stab you, or you can push yourself onto the blade, either way... an outside knife is entering into your body, and whether you say “yes please stab me” or not, it requires the action of another thing, which puts y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:49 AM
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I’m dating a man who is shorter than me, 20 years older, bald, and looks like he’s from the lord of the rings. But Jesus Christ does he make me laugh, and I know that without a shadow of a doubt, he’d make a killer husband and father. Your flowers bloom where you plant them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:34 AM
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Eh, it’s all open to interpretation, but those are all traditionally masculine traits. Healthy masculine traits. Healthy masculine is the light, pleasing, caring, loving, protective, fixing, and doing energy. It’s the romantic energy, the “you don’t like the food you ordered, so I’ll trade plates with you” energy. Feminine energy in a man shows up as one who lies, cheats, steals, and abuses the ones he loves. He’s lazy, complacent, transactional, and wants other people to do things for him. Uses…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:29 AM
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I can see that you are genuinely trying to understand what submission is. I had a hard time grappling this term as well, so I’ll try to define it. It’s not an action, it’s an embodiment. You can use the term surrender if it helps you picture it. It’s the act of giving someone else permission to access your vulnerability, because you trust that they can take care of it. The actual act of sex is not submissive for women in the way you’re thinking. It does not make you weaker. It’s like letting som…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:52 AM
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Healthy masculine men are wonderful, imo. I am repulsed by feminine men myself, and I have found them to be even more dangerous than masculine men. They have all the bitchy and passive aggressive traits of women, coupled with a bigger and stronger body. Worst of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:33 AM
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Good for you! Some people start the game at 16 but don’t ever end up winning, if you get what I’m saying. Some people start at 28 and win with the first girl they meet. Whatever you decide is a win, is a win. Some dudes only want to have casual sex with women and never fall in love, some men want to get married and start a family, some men want a girlfriend to have fun and go on dates with. Some men very much desire to marry and have a partnership, but they don’t think that’s possible, so they j…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:17 AM
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Sounds great!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 09:56 PM
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Absolutely!! I love hearing from the other side, it’s allowed me to update a lot of the misinformation and programming that we all deal with. I’m the kind of gal who needs to know ALL the available perspectives before making my decision and being happy with it. Your girl loves options. I was one of those women who was terrified to let a man pay for me on a date, cause I thought if I did, he would think that I owed him sex. Or that I was a freeloader. Or that I was betraying all the hard work tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 09:31 PM
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Oh honey he’s not even my spouse! And he’s not the only man that is bankrolling my life, either. The incentive? Like what’s in it for them? Well, I’m sure that each of them will tell you something different. One thing I’m constantly told is that I’m a good listener, I’m pretty, and I leave space for them to be my hero. Haha If life isn’t about being happy to you, then go off and suffer in your suffering. That’s your choice!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 09:02 PM
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It’ll happen, I’m sure! Until then, I feel like the best thing we can do is work with what we’ve got right in front of us. Keep doing the things that you love to do and figure out what’s best for the current situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 08:56 PM
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If he dies, I can get another one, lol. If you lose your job, you can go get another one, right? Same thing. I do what I want, and that makes him happy, so I don’t see the problem. I get to spend my time doing things that make me happy, rather than going to work, which would make me unhappy. Life is too short to spend time suffering. I’d rather go get my nails done.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 06:02 PM
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Do you grow your own food? Do you grow the cotton to spin the thread to make your own clothes? Did you mine the ores to create the metal to build your car? Who built your house, or the phone/computer you’re replying with? Who brings water to your house so you can brush your teeth? Like it or not, you are dependent on others. Depending on a man to pay my bills is no different than depending on a man, a boss, to sign my paycheck so I can pay my bills. You sell your time and life energy to get what…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 05:20 PM
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I totally get what you’re saying. There’s a big problem with mistaking good and healthy masculine qualities for the toxic ones, too. I’ve done some significant work and research into the male brain, cause I was stuck in a pattern where every man I encountered was a potential abuser. I didn’t realize that healthy masculine men ARE controlling, if that makes sense. But it’s a protective thing, a leader thing. If a man you’re dating is constantly asking what you’re doing and who you’re with, we say…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 05:03 PM
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Sounds great! You can choose which men you want to depend on, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 04:30 PM
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I totally get that perspective! I have these non-PC discussions with the men I’m dating, it’s opened up my eyes to a lot of the male problems. One man said something very interesting that might resonate with you, I’m not sure. It’s something that I heard about in the media and was offended by, but listening to him explain it made sense. He said he hates working with women, it makes it 300x harder to focus and it’s exhausting. He has to constantly fight his natural urges to protect, provide, prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 04:28 PM
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I’m glad you can see that perspective... no matter what you do or where you go, a woman is going to be dependent on a man in some form or fashion. Whether you like it or not, men have been doing things to impress women throughout history, and the main way they do it is by DOING THINGS FOR US. I learned this the hard way, by being an independent queen, and rejecting every single thing that a man wanted to do for me. No thanks, I can do it myself. How heartbreaking is that? To look at the man who …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 04:09 PM
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I totally see what you’re saying. I want to give an alternative perspective, it’s simply my thoughts so take it as you will. Hypergamy itself just means choosing a mate that is above you, imo. Since men and women bring different things to the table, being that we are different sides of the same coin, you want someone/are attracted to someone who brings the BEST of the complimentary characteristics. Does that make sense? Are you following? I’m sure you know, but I grew up with an engineer dad, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 05:22 AM
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Entirely up to you. You can choose who you want to pay your bills. You can be dependent on one man who will give you everything you desire, just to see you happy... or you can be dependent on a male CEO who doesn’t know your name. I’d rather be sexually harassed by my husband than by male coworkers. I chose to let a man take care of my bills so I could quit my job and start my own business, but I guess that’s just pathetic, isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:56 AM
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I do see the problem! I’m not a man hater personally, I have a rudimentary understanding of the male brain and I know that the current climate is damaging. Men respond to female energy, so when we say we are independent and reject your acts of providing, you feel like you don’t have a job to do or a space to fill, and like you can’t do anything right. That turns into passivity, and then we get mad because we don’t want a man child, which makes you feel even worse. And then we criticize, compare,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:48 AM
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I’m a woman lol I like being at home, but I like a whole lot of things, and competing at work is at the bottom of my list. I’d rather go shopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:26 AM
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You are free to have that perception, but you’re just shooting yourself in the foot, imo. In all the possibilities of the universe, sure, men can do the same things that women can and vice versa. If we put our best trained woman up against our best trained man in a first fight, she will lose. A woman’s power is not what she can do by herself, it’s what she can get others to do for her. I don’t look down on career women, but I would rather be vulnerable to one man who will go to work FOR ME than …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:20 AM
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Oh totally. Those men are crazy. This is just a communication technique that I have found to be helpful, as well as sticking your ground and avoiding a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:11 AM
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No one SHOULD, but it’s just like that. I don’t know what to tell you. Men and women are different, have different roles in society, different reproductive and biological processes, different psychological aspects, we even perceive colors differently. We are supposed to work together, and use our best qualities to build each other up. I hate doing the dishes cause it wrecks my nails, but I don’t mind sweeping... you hate sweeping cause you’re tall and bending over is annoying, but don’t mind dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:03 AM
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Eh, when you decide to play the “who gets to suffer more” game, no one wins. We both have our problems with the other gender. I can recognize the bad things that women do, but I’ll always sympathize with women more, simply because I’m a woman. There are shitty men, just as there are shitty women, and nobody likes to be lumped in with the shitty ones. It’s up to the good ones to set a good example and to teach the shitty ones to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:51 AM
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Totally agree! I would say that 90% of the first dates I’ve been on, especially if it’s dinner, end with the man presuming that sex is going to follow. It’s not their fault, I’m a hottie, and you gotta shoot your shot. If a dude offered to buy me a car in exchange for just dinner, I’d probably take it. I don’t ever bring up the notion of sex until he’s practically begging for it, and then I let them know that I’m flattered but I don’t have sex outside of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:06 AM
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Women aren’t built to handle rejection like men are. Throughout our evolutionary history, men have been the chasers and women have been the choosers, so being rejected is totally new to us. Sorry that happened, freaking yikes!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:30 PM
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Women have the upper hand in dating, men have the upper hand in other things. We are meant to work together to bring balance and harmony. Beauty and the beast. The Incredible Hulk. Brains and braun. Yin and yang.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:25 PM
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Totally makes sense! I love the idea of separate houses!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:17 PM
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I agree that people who don’t know themselves and what they desire, and it’s important to figure out those things before becoming entangled with someone. To each their own, though. I can’t predict who I will marry, I don’t know their name or what they look like, but I know that I won’t marry someone who doesn’t fit my basic criteria. Marriage is a tool, not a goal, imo. Dating for marriage sets a standard that neither party is investing more of themselves up until the marriage license is signed.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 06:40 PM
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Desperation, social pressure, and the fear of commitment are all huge. I did marriage the American way and filed for divorce after 90 days. It was a constant battle of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole throughout the entire relationship, and we both thought that marriage would fix all of it. Nope, not even close. I’m incredibly lazy, love taking naps and delicious baths, spending time doing quiet and solitary activities, and continued to do so. My ex had the biggest meltdown because I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 08:34 AM
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I think a lot of it has to do with the western/American relationship progression... it doesn’t make a lot of sense, to me at least. You meet someone, go on 2-3 dates, become exclusive, then bf/gf, fall in love, move in, maybe have a kid or two, and then get married as the final step. People don’t date with the intention to get married in the US. They don’t position themselves to be the best spouse, either. It’s like everyone here avoids having the important discussions until you’ve already inves…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 05:56 AM
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Isn’t that the truth? Step 1: go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 05:22 AM
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Geeks and nerds who are exclusively geeks and nerds don’t get women because they are weird as hell, no other reason. You can be into nerdy things, but if you have absolutely nothing to offer besides lotr facts, then you won’t get women. Easy as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 12:29 AM
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I’m totally with you! I think my main point is that there is always a second side to the story, and you (we) get to decide how much of a victim we are. I feel for women in other countries who are supremely oppressed and treated terribly... wake up, get beat, brush your teeth, get beat, you know? We are so fortunate that only a small percent of women go through this in America. I count myself lucky that getting catcalls and the occasional gross person is all I have to deal with, you know? I’m wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 11:41 PM
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I’m always going to sympathize with women problems more, simply because I’m a woman and I’ve experienced the things that women claim as their problems. I’m focused on finding solutions, so my feelings can only go so far. Yeah, it freaking sucks to be catcalled, especially when it’s done in a way that makes us feel unsafe. I’m not talking about a whistle or “hey beautiful”, I’m talking about the “hey sexy thing why don’t you come over here and I’ll do X, Y, Z to you” while walking alone. That’s g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:52 PM
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Men generally do like makeup! They don’t like it when it’s too much, or if you look absolutely different without it. This is just in general, though. Men are simple creatures, so they’re not able to use the words women do to describe makeup. They aren’t as detail oriented as women are, so they look at a woman and say “that’s too much makeup” instead of “that’s too much blush, and her contour is too intense, and her eyebrows are too filled in” A well-groomed woman is a sign of a healthy woman. A …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 10:20 PM
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That’s amazing!! What’s your start up? I’m a tall skinny blonde. I have pictures on this account if you look hard enough 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:16 PM
1

How much money do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 02:22 AM
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I’ll accept an application 😘😜
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 08:35 PM
1

Only when it’s turned into “well what about me? What about my problems?” when we talk about our problems. It’s not a competition to see who has it worse, and really, there will never be a resolution that makes both people feel good when you’re competing for comfort. It’ll just be two people attacking each other back and forth. I can acknowledge and understand the male emotional problems, because I have empathy, but I can’t do anything to fix them. All I can do is be supportive, encouraging, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 05:04 PM
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To me it means listening, without turning it into an opportunity to say “well what about me?”, and then taking an inspired action. Rudimentary empathy, that’s a given. I’m sure it hurts to hear that a woman doesn’t trust that you are safe, I can totally see how that would be painful and even annoying. But there’s only so much that you can do. You can’t control other people. You could take some kind of inspired action to show and demonstrate that you ARE safe and trustworthy, using the informatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 04:07 PM
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Ok 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 03:45 PM
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Definitely - he’s a keeper!! I totally agree with your OP, let people be who they are. It would make dating, relationships, and life itself so much easier if we just LET GO of trying to control others. No one likes being told what to do, that’s just a given, and I think that men really like to figure it out on their own. I feel like MOST men are absolutely DYING to be the hero and save the day, I honestly can’t think of a more “manly/masculine/alpha” feeling, so I show a huge amount of appreciat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 03:45 PM
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Eh, it means different things to different people. People, and men especially, show their true colors when in the presence of someone who is vulnerable. I was in a terrible motorcycle accident a month ago. I’m literally at my worst. I’m in pain, grumpy, sad, angry, hurting, stressed out, struggling, and not very much fun to be around. I can’t walk, I hurt, and I have a gigantic amount of stress. This is THE prime opportunity for the men who are interested in me to step up, show me what they’ve g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 01:08 AM
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Right, but why does it matter?? Why is this so triggering for you? You can DM me if you want to talk about my divorce, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 11:20 PM
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Why are you asking me this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 10:04 PM
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That’s why I suggest dating multiple men, especially if you want to get married! I have learned to keep what I want a mystery until the man asks to be exclusive, then I tell them. I’ll date you, but I want to get married and have a family, so I’ll continue to date until I am married.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 09:58 PM
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I think the problem has little to do with men and little to know with women. People don’t date intentionally, they date with an idea of what they want and hope that the other person wants it too. Almost every single man I talk to say the same thing: they ultimately want to have a partner in life, to be in love, and to have a family. Yet they are continuing to invest in, date, sleep with, and hang out with women who they would never marry. Women do the same thing. Find out what you want, and be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 07:12 PM
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Fortunately, it was a very very short marriage. He was on his best behavior up to the wedding day, we went to sleep, and he woke up as a completely different person. Pulled out his secret stash of nazi memorabilia to decorate our marital home, and worse. I was like... yeah, you fooled me, but we’re not going to be doing this. I got out. Re: your second paragraph. That’s why I encourage people to only give from their overflow, so whether or not the kindness is reciprocated doesn’t matter. I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 05:16 AM
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I think it really depends on what you want. If you’re nice and give from your overflow just for the sake of being nice, terrific. Strategically doling out kindness in order to get something from someone else? Feels weird, but I can see it happening. If you’re trying to impress a woman, and while on a date you have the opportunity to be a hero for a stranger, you better take that chance lol. If you’re not a genuinely nice person in every day life, it might come back to bite you, though. Anecdotal…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:30 AM
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I like bald men, or shortly cropped hair. Keep that in mind. I’d rather have a confident bald man than an insecure man with a full head of hair. It speaks to the entire package, imo. Bald? Make sure it’s the best and most well taken care of bald head and you’ll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 05:15 PM
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No one leaves a happy, perfect relationship. Any “monkey branching” that happens is because of a deficiency in the relationship, and it only takes one to end it. I’ve been in relationships where it’s just simply easier and more efficient to break things off than try to make it work. I know plenty of men who cheat (however you define it) because it’s easier to have a fling on the side and get those needs met, and still have a wife to come home to, than try to work it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 12:33 AM
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Definitely makes sense. I can see how men have a hard time finding the space to let it all out. I’m a chick, and have found it helpful to keep a journal. It has helped me to decide whether I’m attaching an emotion to something appropriately or not. This isn’t just for you, but for anyone reading this comment. Just as an example, and something that I’m actually currently working through. I’m pissed off. why am I pissed off? Because the guy I’m seeing was disrespectful of my time. Why? Because he …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 12:06 AM
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There’s a difference between toxic masculinity and normal, healthy masculinity. I think people and the media have taken the term and decided that toxic masculinity means all masculinity is toxic. Like, when describing waste vs toxic waste, the toxic part is what differentiates the two of them. Healthy masculinity is loving, full of light... the provider, protector, leader, solution and objective based, outcome orientated. This needs to be done, so I’m going to go do it type of thing. I’m confide…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 09:01 PM
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I love me a bald man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 02:43 PM
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LOL, that sucks. She doesn’t speak for all women, though. Men fall in love (or are initially attracted) with their eyes. A woman who falls in love with her eyes or chases after a good looking man is working from the masculine parts of her brain. Women fall in love with our ears. A man who leads with his looks rather than his accomplishments is working from the feminine parts of his brain. Feminine and masculine go together. Masculine and masculine repel each other, and feminine and feminine comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 04:04 AM
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No amount of body positivity will help anyone, ever. You have to find the love within yourself, or find a kind of workaround to get what you want from someone else. An ugly woman is only ugly to those who think she is ugly. Even the ugliest, most deformed, and obese woman can find love with someone. Same goes for men. In fact, as Ive gotten into my mid-20s, I find that how a man looks is so low on my list that it almost doesn’t matter. How he treats me, his family, strangers, and himself is far …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 02:35 AM
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A man can be the most “alpha” and masculine man and have soft features. It’s an energy and embodiment, has very little to do with looks. Same for women. She can wear makeup and flirty dresses and have long hair, yet is very masculine energied.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 11:42 PM
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Who says they’re old, socially awkward, and desperate men, lol! Earlier today I was with a man who is a top 1% attorney... he joined me on a call with my personal injury attorney because he had questions. Man to man, I guess. He did this BETWEEN his own personal work calls and zoom meetings because he wants to look out for me! If he was just in it for my looks, he wouldn’t have wasted his precious time. You’re assuming a lot of things without knowing enough information, and passing a lot of judg…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 03:40 AM
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5 months ago? It was a year ago, actually! And I wasn’t ever homeless - I was living in a women’s shelter for a time, and once I started working I was able to move to transitional housing (too afraid to live by myself!) and continued leveling up from there. I got enough money together to build a wardrobe, purchase a car, transfer my licenses so I’m able to work, and on and on from there. I’m a very open, genuine, and positive minded person. I’m not afraid to ask for help when I need it and I hol…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 02:31 AM
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I got a wonderful job and invested in crypto! That’s called “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps”, dear one. That’s how it works. I put in the work to get myself out of a terrible position and it definitely paid off! I fell on extremely hard times after leaving my husband due to abuse, I didn’t have the time to adequately prepare myself before leaving him and we were living across the country from my friends and family. I turned to Reddit as a way to get help and support during the pandemic, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 01:31 AM
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There are definitely some days where I am absolutely exhausted and don’t want anything to do with anyone, lol. I find dating to be really quite fun, so that’s why I do it this way. I’m not maintaining a deep relationship with any of these men, we may have a phone call between dates... but for the most part it’s just two people catching up and having fun and learning about each other along the way. I think you’re right about that! People are itching to get out and play!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 07:41 AM
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It seems that way, right? It actually works, and makes it easier. When a job posting goes up, does the boss hire someone for the job, start paying them, and THEN see if they are qualified, a match, and the best person for the role? No way! It’s the same thing for dating. You simply date them, ask questions to see if you’re a good match, don’t get emotionally attached, and move forward with the best one. Obviously, you don’t waste your time going on dates with guys that you could never possibly s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 05:48 AM
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Date several men at once. Don’t have sex with any of them until they are committed to you, however you define it. The ones who are only looking for sex will stop calling you to ask you out, and the ones interested in being in a relationship with you will keep calling. You keep dating the men in your rotation, adding more and dropping the ones who aren’t a good match for you, until you get someone on your same wavelength. The men your age aren’t looking to settle down, for the most part. Some are…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 05:26 AM
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Women’s lives aren’t easier and we don’t live on god mode - if you’re unable to sympathize with the problems women face, then you can’t expect us to sympathize with men’s. We’re not equal, simple as that. If you want an equal, get with a man. You’re free to date and marry and be with whoever you want, or be single forever! That’s the beauty of relationships, or lack thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 06:03 PM
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Men and women are not equal, so there will never be an equal exchange. XX ≠ XY and it never will. Salt will never be the same as sugar, and apples will never be oranges. The value that he brings by being further along in life is a compliment to my not being further along in life. The value that I bring is a compliment to what he brings. To each their own, though. The men I date and attract aren’t looking for me to “do” anything for them, they are looking at me as someone to share their bounty wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 07:08 AM
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LOL what are you talking about? This guy has the right idea, just talking to people is the right way to go. You can study the theory for years but it’s not going to do any good until you get out and do it. When you first learned to drive a car, how scared were you? How many hours did you pour in to studying how to drive and how the engine worked and what the laws were and what you need to do to drive in the snow? Did you go from the books straight to stunt driving? NO. You do the driveway, and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 12:39 AM
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Depends on what you want. If you’re looking for a serious relationship, a good place to start is somewhere or doing something that you like. Friends have friends outside of the social circle, or coworkers, family members, etc who may be looking for the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 12:19 AM
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I’m talking specifically about me and my relationships, not about women and men at large. I’m dating a few divorced men (I typically date older, in their 30s and 40s) and they unanimously say that they got married too young, and divorced amicably. What happens in real life is very different than what happens online, I’ve found. I wouldn’t date a man who is afraid of marriage because of the potential divorce, both in principle (I don’t dramatize or worry about the “what ifs”) and because marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:02 PM
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That makes sense!! My dad is an engineer and has tried explaining explaining what he does to me for the past 20 years. I still don’t get it, I determined that at one point it had something to do with hard drives, but I’m still not sure. He might drive trains for all I know. I know enough to know that there are different types, and some engineers go to school for one thing and end up doing another, and some CS people are software engineers SORT OF but also different because they do coding? Whatev…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:51 AM
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This is absolutely true! I ride a motorcycle and have had guys follow me across town to chat me up, too. It may seem endearing but I didn’t know whether I was about to be mugged, have my bike stolen, or worse. That’s the worst part for me... the not knowing. I had a guy chat me up in a grocery store and he followed me out of the store and to my bike. It was a pleasant conversation (for a grocery store line) so I wasn’t immediately frightened, in fact I thought it was sort of sweet that he wanted…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 06:45 AM
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Most men I know would rather live in acute physical pain or actually die before going to the doctor. Getting them to go to a doctor to get birth control?? LOL not gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 11:31 PM
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A prostitute is cheaper than a wife, and yet men still propose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:44 PM
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Eh, I offer more than that, and these guys know it... otherwise they wouldn’t pursue relationships with me. Companionship, someone to come home to, someone who will listen. Netflix nights, someone to step in and say OK it’s time for the Christmas decorations to come down or no honey you can’t wear your jersey to a fancy restaurant. I’m friends with a couple, he’s a doctor and she’s a housewife... she makes all of his work shirts, like hand sewing them. He doesn’t care what he wears so she does c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:56 PM
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LOL that’s why I’m going after the oldies, that way the only upgrade they’re gonna get is to another life :p
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:45 PM
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Hahaha! My dad is an engineer so I learned how to talk to you guys from an early age... and I can accept that you guys are absolutely weird, but with the best intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:44 PM
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I’ve dated plenty of late bloomers, and more recently, men who got married young and are relatively new to the dating scene. Not necessarily late bloomers, but they were with one woman for a really long time and haven’t played the field for a while. A lot of these guys were STEM or computer scientists, I’ll add. I like engineering types and “nerds”, I think you guys have crazy brains and so much of what you do and how you think is endearing to me. I went out with a software engineer and we were …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 03:35 AM
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I am openly hypergamous on this sub (and in real life) and get a lot of hate for it... I think it boils down to a few key issues and a lot of misunderstandings. My definition of hypergamy is marrying and dating someone who is further along in life than me. So, this is simply the perspective of a woman who is dating with the intention of marriage, a life partner, and someone to grow with. I didn’t even know what this word meant because it was simply what marriage and dating is supposed to be, acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 11:55 PM
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And that’s a problem because...? These men DESIRE a woman to spend money on lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:52 PM
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I think when people hear gold digger they think I’m going for the million dollar man lol it’s simply not true. I know plenty of men who make 60k a year and are wonderful and husband material... it’s the mentality and ambition that are more important. I’m a lifelong learner and ambitious myself, I pay for classes and coaching and workshops. I love fancy restaurants and travel. I make 6 figures in my career and have other streams of passive income. I believe in buying what you love and what makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 05:11 PM
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A man in his late 30s, 40s, and 50s doesn’t need me to bring anything to the table LOL Where’s the hypocrisy?? I don’t drink, smoke, use drugs, spend frivolously, and am on track to retire early... why would I go for someone who would be dragging me down?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 04:07 PM
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I’ll forgive you for that incredibly long run on sentence. Am I a gold digger? Sure. Is that morally wrong? No. You don’t have to date me. Men have their standards, too! Some don’t date or marry divorcees, single moms, blondes, women over 5’8 tall, women with a BMI over 21, educated women, uneducated women, women who make more or less in salary, women outside of their race, atheists, women with tattoos, etc. It’s not a moral problem. You date who you want to date and marry who you want to marry.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 08:16 AM
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Please see the original reply that I made on this post... by all means, go your own way! Build a life for yourself and make the best of it LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 05:05 AM
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Soooo... What is your point here, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 05:00 AM
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Uh, what’s the problem here? After marriage, the two of us are bound together in a legal contract. I’d want to know what I’m getting into. Men lie. I had a guy tell me that he’s financially free and worked as a software engineer. Come to find out, he’s 100k in credit card debt and actually works at the dollar store. And still married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:30 PM
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Exactly! Realistic and HUMAN expectations, along with a general understanding of the opposite sex, and unwavering boundaries are the keys to success and ending your own suffering. I don’t want to be a building block, so I date men who are done building. So I date older men. That’s it. Any additional building will be done as a couple, with his hard work as the foundation! It’s dumb and struggle-y to start a business when you can’t pay the bills. I want to be married some day, so I only date men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:17 PM
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Ok! I’m not all women, and this is simply my view and my perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:51 PM
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I don’t know where you’re getting that I have a problem, lol. I am happily “playing the field”, right now my only goal is to go on dates with men and have fun while doing it! Dating is fun, I enjoy getting to know people, learning new things, and having new experiences. The only man that I want to retain is my husband. They get to build trust with me and respect me by going on dates with me...? Asking questions? Seeing whether or not our lifestyles go together? Asking me what I want for the futu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:23 PM
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Thank you! I try to have a greater perspective on things, I find it to be very freeing. I would rather have a man be indifferent to women and focus on himself until he decides what he wants, whether it be marriage or a girlfriend or an easy lay or nothing at all. Same goes for women. The problem comes when you decide you want something from another person, who wants something different, right? I’d never react poorly to a man that just wants me for sex, he’s allowed to want what he wants... we ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:23 PM
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I have a problem retaining men because I don’t commit to them until I’m married to them? I’m not following. Tell me... how is it cheating if the only relationship I recognize is marriage? Dating is just that... dating. Going on dates. Dinner dates, coffee dates, sight seeing dates, dates to Costco, lunch dates. These men are all auditioning for the role of husbands, and they know that when they ask to advance the relationship and I lay down my standards. If they’re not cool with that, we simply …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:12 PM
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You think it’s a me problem?? Lol. I’m single until I’m married, and all the men I’m currently dating know this. I don’t do boyfriends, the only relationship I recognize is marriage. I tell them when they ask to be exclusive or to advance the relationship. I have one man paying all my bills and he gave me a credit card to use whenever I want. I have one man who just asked me to live with him last night, lol. One man bought me a motorcycle. One just paid for me to replace all the furniture in my …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 07:43 PM
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I’m not a representative of all women, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 04:50 PM
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It seems like we are in agreement about what I said! I choose to stay away from men my own age, even 10 years older than me. I’d rather wait at the finish line than be used as a building block. The men I date have their lives together and the only thing they need is a happy and juicy woman to complete the picture, so it’s never a question or a problem. I don’t go for the most attractive or flashy guys, average and boring is what I like. I want to be the attractive and flashy one, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 04:48 PM
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Eh, the men I date like to take care of me. I’m sure that part of it is to be impressive and show off, but there’s also a part that makes them feel more like a man. Imo a true “alpha male” is one that takes care of his woman, and his “tribe”. If he’s the alpha, the boss, and the one in charge, then he’s gotta make sure that what’s his is taken care of. I can’t submit or surrender to a man unless I know he’s got it handled.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:27 AM
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I’m happy they are going their own way. Nothing is more repulsive to me (as a semi-traditional, gender role conforming, young, and attractive) woman than a man who hates women. I can see the faults in men, no doubt about it, and especially when dating men in my same generation. However, I don’t hate them. I’m not mad at them. I simply adjusted myself and changed my own standards. I would prefer if men spent their 20s and 30s focused on their careers and building themselves, to be honest. Use tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 12:15 AM
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Doesn’t matter - the risk is still there, and if the man is going to have sex with someone other than me when we agreed on monogamy, then I’ll get me a roster of men to take me on dates and buy me gifts and give me money!!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 12:44 AM
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No, because the only way to ensure that he doesn’t bring home any STDs or get another woman pregnant is to only have sex with me. The situation you describe is an open relationship. If the relationship is open, then it’s open on both sides. That’s what’s fair and makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 11:30 PM
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Because I expect monogamy from my husband. I don’t want to risk contracting an STD from my husband. I don’t want my husband to get another woman pregnant by accident, and have to deal with that mess. STDs and pregnancy only come from having sex, so I don’t want my husband to have sex with anyone else. Condoms break, birth control fails. No thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 11:22 PM
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It’s a matter of principle, my dude. I enter relationships under the guise of monogamy. If a man asks me to marry him, he’s taking me off the market completely. That means I don’t date or have sex with or get taken care of by anyone else, because he’s doing it. I expect the same thing in return. If I’m taking myself off the market and entering into a legal contract and full commitment, then I would have to be getting exactly what I want from my life partner. That includes monogamy. I don’t want …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:58 PM
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We can still be married, no one says I’m leaving lol. He can love me all he wants and still have sex with whoever he wants... but I’m not a doormat, so he won’t be getting it from me, and he’s still going to have to take care of me fully. If he’s stepping out for some sex, then I’m gonna be stepping out for some dates and get some good gifts from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:58 PM
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Where did you get that from lol If I’m married to a dude and I have proof he’s been cheating, then of course I’m going to start dating other men too!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:44 PM
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In my opinion, relationships are not (or should not be) and either/or type of thing. Like... Either you are fully independent and you don’t need anything from anyone, or you are full on incapable of living without someone else. I think it should be a both/and situation. You’re fully capable of being on your own and being happy AND you get the joy of sharing your life with another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:29 PM
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I have a roster of men already, lol. Men have a need for casual sex, I have a need for lots of money. If he gets to have his cake and eat it too, then so do I!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:14 PM
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Hypergamy just means marriage, to me at least. There’s no taboo or anything weird like that, and it’s not something I openly discuss with my friends or the men I’m dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:03 PM
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Dating is the funnest part of relationships IMO. It’s not exhausting and it gets to be fun, for me at least! I date several men at a time and keep it simple and fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:01 PM
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I personally don’t care, so long as I don’t have to hear about it. Someone else can do all the dirty work for me. I’d either get myself a boyfriend and/or another roster of men to take care of me!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:58 PM
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Did you read what I wrote above? Simple, cut and dry 50/50 custody would mean that the kids are with babysitters and in daycare on dad’s days, cause he has to work. What’s the point of doing that when the kids can be with mom during the day, and then with both mom and dad in the evenings? Or whenever dad is able to? 50/50 split of the joint marital assets is already what they are doing... he kept the marital home and bought her another one. Rather than split the savings/retirement/stock portfoli…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:59 AM
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I have a rotation of men who I go on dates with, and have varying levels of emotional intimacy with each. These relationships are all non-committed and they are all aware that I am dating other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:26 AM
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Lol, it’s not as sinister as that. No matter what, he’s going to be working 80+ hours a week, because that’s what his career requires. 2 hours of his time pays the entire mortgage for his house and his ex’s combined. What would the alternative be, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:50 AM
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Nope, no alimony required - that’s what this whole agreement is about. They wanted to avoid a nasty court battle. They went to the judge with their agreement and he signed off on it. The money that goes to his ex isn’t a significant chunk of change lol. He’s very wealthy so a couple grand every month to pay for her credit card isn’t a lot. He’s not under her thumb, that’s the point. He works like crazy so if he didn’t have her staying home, the kids would be with a babysitter or in daycare. Bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:04 PM
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You agreed with me previously, like 4 replies up. Do we live in a world without choice? No. We get to choose things. Some things are outside of our control, I can’t make the sun shine when I want it to. I cant make or force a person to not call me a bitch, that’s entirely their own decision. But I can choose to respond and escalate and call them a bitch or worse, or punch them right in the face, or remove myself from that situation, or whatever. I can also choose whether or not that person calli…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 04:04 AM
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Definitely - I’m not saying that anyone deserves to be abused. Everyone deserves to be treated with basic standards and with dignity. I prefer to take the position that you choose what you are willing to accept. Taking personal responsibility is a relief, or it should at least. If you are the one in control of yourself and your life, that means that you have the power to change circumstances that you don’t like. If you float around in life believing that you don’t have a choice and have to do wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:25 AM
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There’s no transaction here, it’s simply what makes sense for them. His older kids are school aged and his youngest isn’t yet, so the “family unit” needs someone at home to take care of the youngest and handle the school run in order to function. Especially with covid and the kids doing school from home. He works 80+ hour weeks and earns easily 100x more than what his ex could possibly make. She stayed at home with the kids and put her career to the side while they were married, so she’s been ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 12:35 AM
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An abuser is going to abuse. A molten hot piece of pizza is going to be molten hot. A person who doesn’t want to get burned by a piece of pizza will not bite into the piece of pizza that is fresh from the oven. A person who doesn’t want to be abused will not continue to interact with a person who is abusing them. You can’t be something while also being the opposite. The abuser is going to be abusive. The victim will continue to be the victim so long as they allow themselves to be victimized. Don…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 12:07 AM
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I’m not saying that the fault lies with the abuse victims, not at all. Abusers abuse. It’s not a woman’s fault if a man chooses to hit her or talk crazy to her or anything like that. If I take a bite of pizza and end up burning the shit out of my mouth, well, shit happens. If I then turn around and do it again knowing that I’m going to burn the shit out of my mouth, and I do it over and over again, who is to blame? Do I blame the pizza for being too hot, knowing that I just pulled it out of a 45…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 11:10 PM
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I think we are coming at this from different angles... and keep in mind, I was in an abusive relationship before. I understand fully the struggles of being a woman in this position. I lived through it, and came out the other side with this perspective. Women need to take accountability in order to PROTECT THEMSELVES from it happening again in the future. Rather than walking away from my ex after our first date when I got the first sniff of a red flag, I decided to give him another chance. There …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 10:08 PM
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Absolutely. I don’t want to come off as victim blaming, but women need to take SOME accountability for being in bad relationships. Not saying that they pushed the man into being abusive, not at all. But when a man does something that is offensive to your sensibilities, or makes you feel scared or bad or unworthy, and you decide to brush it off... well, that means you have some deficiency in your own sense of self worth, and you need to step out and do some inner work. Sure, give him a chance. A …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 09:11 PM
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I’m totally with you there! I assume the best of everyone, but draw the line when it’s not the best for ME. People, and men, will only take from whatever you give. A man won’t take my money unless I make it available to him, he won’t have control unless I give it, and he can’t hurt my feelings unless I let him. I play dumb as much as I can, it makes them show their true colors REAL quick. When a dude thinks I’m too stupid to see through his manipulations, and I don’t fall for it, he changes his …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 08:52 PM
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I have actually! It saved me from a highly toxic and abusive relationship. I keep it on my shelf and refer to it often. I have learned the difference between “abusive control” and “masculine control”, and how to manage myself with each. Absolute dependence = target to be abused. Strategic dependence = maximum benefit. I let the men in my life control the things that I don’t want to control or have any opinion on. I strategically submit, now, if that makes sense. I was with a man my own age who w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 08:16 PM
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I was raised by a single dad and lots of brothers - I was brought up and taught to go to men when I have a physical problem, and they will fix it, because men like to solve things. When this doesn’t happen, I feel like the man hates me lol. 98% of the time, when I go to a man with a problem, they fix it. Just today, I bought a phone cord from a gas station, and there was a piece of plastic holding it together. I don’t have a pocket knife or scissors, so I walked over to a dude in a work truck an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 06:54 PM
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I get what you’re saying! The gender role thing is only a part of what I need in a relationship, but it’s an important one. I have my standards that go along with gender roles, so even if the man is traditionally masculine, we may not be a good fit. I made a list of my standards and a list of my preferences when I decided to start dating seriously. I sat down and thought hard about what I wanted in a partner, and how that would fit in my current mindset. I wanted someone funny, so that meant I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 06:42 PM
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I’ll define coddling. If I’m hurt, or sick, or had a horrible day, I expect to be coddled. I want my problems to be solved. Blew a tire while out? I would hope that he steps in and handles that problem for me - either come and put the donut on and take it to have my tire replaced, or handle the tow, or whatever. Water heater stops working? Air filter needs replacing? Car is throwing a code? Can’t get out of my driveway because of snow/construction/whatever? Come fix the problem. Nothing breaks m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 05:52 PM
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Good for you! That’s the beauty of dating - we can choose who we want to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 05:16 PM
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I’m inclined to agree with you about a lot of things you wrote about here. Men and women were not designed to be inseparable, we were designed to work together to bring forward the maximum benefit to each party. I’ve come to learn that men around my own age won’t likely “coddle” me, protect me, stand up for me, and provide for me. For that reason, among others, I only date older men, and I don’t ever come to them with big emotional problems. I go to my girlfriends with that. I also don’t date me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 05:33 AM
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It takes 2 people to make a relationship and 2 people to have sex. If the wife doesn’t want to have sex with her husband, there’s probably a reason why (after the excuses end) What would I tell him? Get a girlfriend or get a divorce if sex is so important to you. If neither is an option, try to come up with some other compromise within yourself. You can’t force your wife to have sex with you, and (as a woman I can say this is true) once we close our hearts to a man, it’s extremely difficult to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:48 AM
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You don’t tell her. If she finds out, oh well, get another one? Or say you want an open relationship from the beginning. How much crazy are you willing to invite into your life? Really think about that. It might be easier to just be upfront and say that you are only interested in having multiple partners and monogamy isn’t for you.
/r/askTRP08/04/21 11:13 PM
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You’re absolutely right!! Like a high-pressure sales technique, BUY NOW! LIMITED SUPPLY! I think SOME elements of TRP are beneficial and true, like focus on getting yourself in a great position in life, go to the gym, focus on making money, self-confidence, etc. That kind of stuff is attractive to everybody. Same with FDS, avoid predators and have boundaries, have a backup plan, love yourself first. It gets crazy when you don’t understand your “target”. The game/pick up tactics/tricks will most …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 06:13 PM
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I’ll give you a few examples from the red pill guy... He asked me out for Valentine’s Day, and said if I didn’t say yes right then, he would invite another girl. I was like OK, go ahead and invite her. I don’t know what my schedule looks like so I can’t say yes right now. He used this trick multiple times to try and get me to go on dates and weekend trips. “If you don’t go, I’ll invite someone else!” Constantly trying to get me to go to his house, planning dates that were in close proximity to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:49 PM
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Sure. If I want/need something from another person and they are unable/unwilling to do it, I accept it and then figure out another way to get it. Why try and change someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:41 PM
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Submission doesn’t mean following blindly and doing everything a man tells us to do... It’s saying “ok, sounds good” if we agree, and saying “ok sounds good” and doing what we were going to do anyway if we don’t agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 02:26 PM
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I can only speak from my perspective, so take this as you will... I see right through the red pill BS. I can instantly tell when someone is being genuine or phony lol. I went on a few dates with a RP man and I knew what he was trying to do and was prepared 3 steps in advance. The real “alpha male” doesn’t need to use manipulation and tricks to get what he wants, he simply knows what he wants and positions himself to get it... I think the big problem is that men and women don’t know what the fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 08:43 AM
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The best sex I ever had was with an older Brazilian man. So affectionate, wild, and free. I’ll never forget it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/03/21 05:40 AM
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It’s a strange phenomenon. I don’t really seem to understand it... I’m a woman, no children, and I don’t have a problem with single dads. We can go out on dates and spend time together when he doesn’t have his kids, and if something comes up, it’s fine. Kids need their parents and I don’t want to be in the way of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 11:08 PM
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I was going to comment and say that this is probably what she’s doing! I’m a woman and have done this before. We usually have a better eye for style and “fitting in” than men do. If she’s going to be bringing you around friends then she wants you to look the part. I don’t end up paying for it, but I will pick out stuff for my man to wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 10:59 PM
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I am in total agreement with everything you said! I just wanted to touch on the guy who wouldn’t fix your bike and perhaps offer a different perspective... You came to him with a problem, and he offered a solution. That’s a provider trait. He didn’t say “damn that sucks, sorry to hear that”, he actually did try to help you. It’s all a matter of perspective, men will provide what they can and when they can. One man will look at you and be willing to give from his front pocket but not his back... …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 08:01 PM

I think the problem can be boiled down to simply leaving the house lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 10:58 PM
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You’re absolutely right! I think of it like taking her off the market. No one else gets her. Haha. Motorcycle guy was an amazing man in so many ways. He was a true mans man, I’m grateful to have known him! I was in a marriage where he wanted so desperately to be the woman/feminine energy and have me protect and provide for him, but I’m just not that way. Then he wanted to also be the “man” and have the final say on things. It was not a good energetic match, and he got violent. Since then, I deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:41 PM
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Hahaha, I don’t send pictures to randos from the internet! When we break through that wall, it’s no longer fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:01 PM
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I think it depends on the energy of the woman, too. I believe that most men yearn for opportunities to be the hero, but are just not given the chance very often. Women have to be receptive to it, lean back, and let it happen. I love men and masculinity, and men love women and femininity. I’m not a wimp, but if I see an opportunity out in the world to let a man be a man, I’ll let him, and give him a huge burst of happy and appreciative energy. 99.9% of the time, they take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 09:04 AM
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Exactly. People talk all kinds of stuff online, but when they actually leave the house and interact with humans, it’s a different story. In his defense, I do have a hard time tying my shoes sometimes... long nails, big doe eyes, glossy lips, oozing feminine charm and asking for help... 😉🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:05 AM
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That is but a small subset of women and doesn’t account for all relationships over the past 20-30 years. It’s also a subset of women posting things online, which doesn’t account for the whole, and we don’t know whether they are actually practicing what they preach. I went on a few dates with a self professed red piller/mgtow man... he told me all about how he would never chase after or do anything for a woman. while on his knees lacing up my shoes for me. After driving 50 minutes to see me. For …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:52 AM
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It depends on what you want. Do you want to be the sole provider? Then do it! Pay all the bills in the relationship. If she insists on paying half, take the money she gives you and put it away in an account for a rainy day, or to spoil her with a spa weekend, or whatever. You can still feel like a provider even if she’s also working. Give the girl you’re dating a couple hundred bucks every now and then and tell her it’s to go get her hair done, to go shopping, Costco run, or whatever. I dated a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:05 AM
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I mean, it’s all around you, if you think about it! A mans protection can feel like controlling behavior. It all depends on how you feel about it and whether you internalize it or not. They are incredibly possessive about THEIR woman, whether they are even aware, I don’t know. For example, I ride a motorcycle and was dating a guy who also rode. He would refuse to ride with me, cause he was constantly worried about me crashing or getting hit. He couldn’t focus on himself and me at the same time. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:38 PM
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I can totally see where you are coming from, and I do agree that men’s role in society has stayed the same, whereas women’s has changed. When we move from the bigger picture to the smaller, it’s easy to see that women’s role in society has stayed the same as well. We still have to bear children and be the primary caregiver to them, while also remaining good looking for our husbands, and taking care of the “home”. Now we have to also be providers and compete in the workforce. IMO, modern feminism…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 10:54 PM
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Hahah, did you notice how much peace it brought you to just to know that you are heard? That the world can be saved and made a better place? Just imagine what it’s like to be in a relationship with me, lol. I did a lot of research into masculine and feminine dynamics, so I actually know when men are protecting and providing for me and what that looks like, and I know how to be appreciative. That’s why I charge a premium haha. I want the maximum benefit, to bring out as much healthy masculine ene…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 07:13 PM
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I’m not a man, but I grew up with brothers and a single dad. They are all “””alpha””” men who show up and fix things. I understand both sides of the relationship pretty well, and I know my role, and what I bring to the table, and my standards. If someone doesn’t fit in that, I say thank you, I love you, next. Life is too short to suffer and make up problems! Masculine romance is so much more than what they show in the movies, you know? I don’t need all the gifts and flowers and whatever else, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 02:59 PM
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Men and women have different experiences of the world. Biology/evolution take heed here, I think. Men and women have 0 history of competing with each other... men were providers, women were receivers. I’m not competitive with men, and I try not to argue, cause it’s just draining to my energy. Our gender roles/sexes are just not made equally. XX ≠ XY and it just never will. In my “ideal” scenario, the man would cover the household bills, at minimum. Food, house, transportation, phones. Everything…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 03:09 AM
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I’m a self-professed gold digger and can honestly say that the power and influence isn’t a turn on for me. I’m not an alpha woman by any means, so take that into consideration. Wealth simply means freedom. It’s more options. It’s the difference between ONLY shopping the clearance rack and being able to CHOOSE to shop the clearance rack. I can choose where I want my time to go, you know? If all my essential bills are paid up for the next 20 years, I’m free... If I get pregnant, I’m not going to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 07:43 AM
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Eh, I’m all for letting people vent, but there comes a point where it’s like... ok, do you want a solution or do you just want to be mad and blame others? Nothing is stopping you from getting sex besides yourself. There are an infinite number of ways to get what you want, and you are ultimately the one who decides what limitations you choose to have. Ugly? Get some money and hire a prostitute. Broke? Find a way to make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 07:15 AM
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Eh, I think men are wonderful and impressive creatures and I know they have more to offer than just pp and laughs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 04:55 AM
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Sounds fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 04:35 AM
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Depends on what you’re offering and whether we want it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 04:18 AM
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Hahahahaha. Attraction is easy, keeping you around while getting what we want is where things get tricky.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 12:53 AM
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Ah yeah that’s what will do it, lol. Even the most “beautiful” Instagram models use photoshop... in my age it was reality TV and billboards, models and actresses... before that it was movie stars and newspaper advertising... I’m sure they dealt with this kind of stuff during the freaking caveman times. Stick figure drawings on the walls haha. Comparing yourself to the top .000000001% of chicks is a waste of time. It’s like being born a table and wishing you were born a chair. A better thing to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 12:33 AM
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You’re so welcome!! I have struggled with my own issues with how I look so I totally understand where you’re coming from. I know what it’s like to not feel pretty, and then have the all the shit from the media and everything else that just makes it worse. If you want to appeal to men, you have to look just generally good and healthy. But even then... the man who you are interacting with may not like your look. He might like redheads or tall or fat or gap teeth. Or you may have an attitude that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 11:28 PM
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It’s all relative, I think. There’s the modern standard of beauty (Instagram model) but this “look” is different from the “look” in previous decades, so I wouldn’t use that as a basis for comparison. Beauty means healthy to both men and women, but what men see as beautiful is different than for women. The makeup I wear when I go out with my girlfriends is too much for the guy I’m dating, for example. He says it is overwhelming lol. If you’re looking to appeal to men, you’ll want to look soft, he…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 10:21 AM
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I’m a woman, so I’ll give you my best advice. On a macro level, regarding looks: men fall in love with their eyes, first, so be something nice to look at. Men like healthy women. Stay fit and not fat. Be clean and hygienic. Clear skin, smell nice, address any health concerns. Men value youth, so protect your youth and beauty. Don’t be stressed out and angry because it ages you. Get Botox and filler if you need it, use good skincare, get facials and beauty treatments. Men like our softness. Exfol…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 08:21 AM
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Insecurity in one’s body, especially as a woman, can usually be traced back to insecurity within herself. There’s a wound somewhere in her being that is telling her she’s not good enough or not worthy. Dealing with all the inner bullshit is really, really hard. Even identifying where the wound is coming from is hard. Like you said, it’s so large and all encompassing. Is it the media? Did someone say something to her that made her feel unworthy 20 years ago? Did someone happen to look at her stom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:18 AM
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Isn’t it interesting how people can interpret the same 4 words in completely different ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 02:44 AM
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Our backgrounds are very similar! 5 older brothers, very protective, had to force him into teaching me “boy stuff”. I’m absolutely grateful for all that, too. They taught me how to use my feminine charm on men and how to show my gratitude/appreciation in a way that resonates. On the flip side, I know how to handle my own self and make sure I don’t die lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 09:21 PM
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She meant “I don’t think that” in the context of how the question was asked, not that she doesn’t think men aren’t being preyed on by other men. Does that make sense? The question was “what makes you think x” and she responded “I don’t think x”. A better phrasing of the question would be “do you think men are preyed on by other men”, and her response would be “yes”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 09:13 PM
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Very true lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 04:11 AM
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There’s a difference between an actual replacement mommy and daddy, and the kind of love that they give. You can’t nurture, coddle, and baby the man that is supposed to be protecting you. A man can’t protect and provide for a woman who thinks he’s the one who needs protection. It just doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 02:06 AM
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It’s not. Not in the real world, if you’re comparing yourself to others rather than comparing against yourself. I’m consider myself a 10/10 woman. When I have make up on and a cute outfit, I’m a 12. I could very well be a 2/10 in your eyes, or a -6000 to someone else. I could be considered wife material to one and a creature from the black lagoon to another. Cute and fun and sexy enough for a night, or enough for a 6 month relationship. I don’t care one bit, cause I’m a 10, and I know what I wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 01:38 AM
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I anticipate getting a lot of nerd rage for this, but whatever. Marriage is not submissive for the man. It was created by men, because of women. In the tribal times, multiple men would be pursuing one woman, and then she would pick the best one. There was a huge amount of competition, so men would invest a lot of time and resources in order to impress her and stand out. Asking for marriage means that the woman would have to take herself off the market for other men. We had many men pursuing us, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 12:50 AM
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I wouldn’t call it submission, I prefer to use the term surrender. I don’t want to control or change anyone, or argue, or try to convince someone to do or be anything. Things and people and situations simply are. I don’t want to carry that kind of mental load, you know? It’s imperative that I know that he has my best interests at heart, otherwise I can’t surrender to him. That’s not safe. That comes with time and him proving over and over that he is safe and wants me to be happy. I’m not passive…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 11:52 PM
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What makes you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 05:08 PM
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There wouldn’t be a human race if women didn’t pick the most powerful IN ADDITION TO the ones that had good character. Our ancestors selectively bred the best and most “alpha”/desirable traits into our bloodlines. They only had children with the best quality men. You have generations upon generations of alpha traits... being the best possible provider, the best protector, the best hunter, the strongest. After a few generations we had a strong enough “supply” of men with these traits that we were…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 08:45 AM
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LMFAO, sorta. I’ll hug the poor guy, at least 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 06:23 AM
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LMFAO go to therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 05:08 AM
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Forming human bonds vs chasing after a woman that is driving you to suicide... hmm, the jury is still out on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 04:29 AM
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Ok I agree with your first part, for the most part. Unconditional love means something very different to me. I don’t expect him to be absolutely perfect in every way, that would bore the heck out of me. But if he is an overall compliment to me and my life, then yeah, I can be his undercurrent and cheerleader. Regarding his biological need to fuck all the time... I honestly don’t care if he fucks other women, we can have an open relationship. He still must provide for me and pay all the bills (wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 04:11 AM
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The man I am with has savings, titles, properties, investments, dividends, generational wealth, disability insurance, and life insurance policies. If he got in an accident, I would be fine, with enough money to hire the best kind of care for as long as it takes. And yes, I would stick by his side, because if I’m taken care of, I have no reason to leave. That comes with picking the best of the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 03:25 AM
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That’s incredibly unhealthy and a sign that you need to do work on your self esteem. Suffering for the sake of love is not an admirable quality... Life is supposed to be fun, not painful. I don’t want a man without a backbone, I’m sure I’m not the only woman out here who thinks that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 03:09 AM
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Men will hang around women to enjoy the perks and then take off when the perks are gone, too. How many men cheat on their wives, again? How many men stick around and do the right thing when their one night stand calls up and says she’s pregnant? How about the men who divorce to go chase tail when they’re 50? Will you unconditionally love your wife and stick by her side if she gets morbidly obese, or has an accident that leaves her absolutely paralyzed and bedridden? Really think about that one a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 02:54 AM
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I said men and women love differently. Unconditional love only exists between a parent and child, and occasionally with a man and his car. I don’t want to be a mans mommy. I could never respect a grown man who looks to me as a mommy... what the hell kind of sense does that make? Am I supposed to treat him like a child while also having sex with him? What kind of crazy ass pseudo-incestuous relationship is that? When we have children, is he going to nuzzle up to nurse too? I’ll be sure to set som…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 02:38 AM
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Go to work, focus on making money, and getting your own self together. Take all this energy and focus it on putting yourself in the best possible position for the future. Don’t worry about what women are doing. Don’t compete with them. They can sleep with whoever they want and party and drink, and still... it has nothing to do with you. Get off dating apps. Delete them and never look back. If you’re looking for a woman without a significant amount of baggage, you’re going to have to either date …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 01:52 AM
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Fragility can mean many things. Generally speaking, it’s not evolutionary preferable to choose a mate that would die during childbirth because they are small and sickly. Masculinity and men has 3 components... protection, provision, and predator. I’d say in a mentally healthy man it’s about 80% protector/provider and 20% predator. You need all 3 of them to work in harmony, and the predator instinct works to supplement the other 2. It is beneficial for a woman to choose a mate that can protect an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 01:34 AM
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Women are not incapable of love, lol. We just don’t love men the same as they love us. I feel like men who say this are looking for the kind of love that mommy gave them, unconditional and nurturing and self sacrificial. A mans love is totally different than a woman’s love. A man can love his car... he will take amazing care of it, make sure it is clean and waxed and given the best gas and never without a cover. He will protect it from the elements and defend his car against criticism and everyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 01:05 AM
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I have no personal problems with only being valued for my beauty. I have inherent value as a human being, and that is 100% enough for me. My job is NOT to be impressive or smart or successful when it comes to relationships with men, my job is to be a reflection of my partner. It’s to be appreciative of the things he does for me, by being happy and beautiful. We were not designed to be able to handle stress, it ages us, makes us gain weight, causes infertility, and makes us masculine. To answer y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 08:46 PM
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I’m very beautiful and very attractive, I can’t leave my house without being approached. I take excellent care of myself and my body, I’m 5’8 and wear a size 0-2. Clear skin, soft hair, and I’m youthful and full of joy. I’m feminine, soft spoken, wear dresses & heels, always smell pretty. I take my time when I move and smile and flirt with everyone. I’m an excellent conversationalist but I prefer to take a backseat and observe. I ask for help when I need it and let him be my hero. I don’t feel e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 05:46 PM
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Traditionally feminine roles, like cooking and cleaning? Here’s the thing... wealthy men don’t want or need their women to cook or clean. They can hire someone to do that. I’m currently dating someone who meets most of my above standards. He thinks it’s cute that I don’t do any of that traditional stuff... he jokes that “I’m not domesticated” haha What do I bring to the table? Myself, that’s it. I don’t want a man who needs me to bring anything, he should be complete on his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 04:56 PM
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10-15 years older than me. I’d even go up to 20 for the right man. Wealthy, generous, and a provider. Must bring in enough money to take care of me and a family comfortably, and allow me to work at my own discretion. Understanding of both his role in the relationship as well as my own. I’m a woman, not a cook, maid, mommy, roommate, “buddy”/“bro”, or sex slave. I must have absolute freedom to do and be whatever I want, and it is his job to give that freedom to me. Masculine minded. Happy to take…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 08:09 AM
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