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1	Does The "Patriarchy" Truly Exist? I'd argue that patriarchy is more social than legal, but that's completely pointless. Plus all our evidence can only go back as recent as 1800s, most written records existing today are. If I want to argue history dating back 500-1000 years I'd have to get a degree in history. So I'll just admit my loss because there's no reason to argue this or that patriarchy, especially since men today does have less legal and social rights (on important matters) compare to women today.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	09/11/23 06:10 PM
1	Gender roles & gender inequality existed, but was it really due to patriarchy? Was patriarchy theory a thing in the way feminists have described it in history? (Timeline of British/US History) Seems like the only translated version is in dutch. Which I still cannot read. But I did find papers on updated Darwin's theory on human reproduction, which will suffice: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4251269/ https://www.icr.org/article/darwins-teaching-womens-inferiority/ Why would you say Darwin's reproductive theory wasn't accepted? I'm pretty sure he was well-renowned. Most of his work basically make up the 19th century evolutionary theory, he was the start of everything.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	25/10/23 05:16 AM
1	Gender roles & gender inequality existed, but was it really due to patriarchy? Was patriarchy theory a thing in the way feminists have described it in history? (Timeline of British/US History) German book about the sexuality of animals. Is there any link to this book I can read into, maybe a small translation?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/10/23 11:45 PM
1	Does The "Patriarchy" Truly Exist? If you're willing to discuss this at all. Reading the post you link it is true that America is a young country and that feminism started since the dusk America achieved independence. But like that timeline discussed, most of the rights we have as women today are periodically fought for in the past. Women didn't gain the right to vote until another 150 years. Yes, the first queen of England dated back 1000 years ago, but that's one aspect of woman in power. And it took marrying William the conque…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/10/23 11:44 PM
1	Does The "Patriarchy" Truly Exist? When someone speaks about "historical patriarchy," just remember that for every 1 men who passed on his genes 17 women reproduced. Women are forced to reproduced in the past. That isn't exactly privilege, especially considering how many bastard children makes up impoverished population in the past. Saying that historical patriarchy doesn't exist is like saying Lions and Gorillas aren't patriarchal, or Hyenas aren't matriarchal. Male lions mortality rates are still higher than female lioness, tha…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/10/23 11:30 PM
1	Does The "Patriarchy" Truly Exist? Patriarchy does not exist in western countries today. In non-progressive country? Probably. But most countries are slowly moving out of their old ideals; women are working outside, being SAHM isn't always sustainable, and materialistically people aren't going to practice old gender roles to a strict extent.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/10/23 11:11 PM
1	"NoT lIkE oThEr GiRlS": Circling the wagons of feminism. I personally think the issue with modern progressive is that they use moral righteousness as a petty power fights. Like you're forced to choose between BLM and how white people get targeted racially as well. They force you to fight morals with morals - "this moral standard is more important than yours, so change your opinion or you're a terrible person!" Which leads to a bunch of moral righteous idiots who can't understand there are human flaws in human politics.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/10/23 11:00 PM
1	"NoT lIkE oThEr GiRlS": Circling the wagons of feminism. I wish people could moderate themselves just as they conduct in the outside world on the internet sometimes. I've never once heard people use "simps," "incels," or "pick mes" irl, only when I drove pass some middle school kids here or there. But somehow these insults are still overplayed on the internet, derailing what could've been an interesting conversation, into a dog and cat fight because of offense. At this point, anyone who throw around the words like "incels" or "karen" at someone should…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/10/23 10:52 PM
1	Men's actions have been criminalised but women's aren't So far the interaction has been: "women lie about high rape cases." "Tourists dont actually get harassed, they came to India to make up lies about our men" "You're a hater and a racist for saying otherwise." What a profound discussion we've had.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/10/23 05:14 AM
1	Men's actions have been criminalised but women's aren't Feminism got popular in India and Iran and other countries BECAUSE of women's safety issues. That's one tourist out of many. That does not justify how India is still considered rape capital of the world.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/10/23 04:13 PM
0	Honest question: why are people in this group not just conservative? This is very well written and food for thoughts. This however: "Communities helping those in need is quintessentially collectivism and a left wing ideal." I don't agree entirely with. The lack of community is just modern burden, it's not necessarily the fault of conservatism, but a product of it. Because we can no longer function happily as a society with traditional values, these structure falls apart leading to problems with gender roles today. In fact, people used to value communities more. C…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/10/23 01:20 AM
1	Men's actions have been criminalised but women's aren't Everyone is objects. Way to strawman. Yes, more conservative and poorer coountries tend to objectify their people. But isn't the point of law to humanize and protect the people. Men in conservative countries have more rights and freedom than women. Thus, rape goes underreported and women's right are seen lesser. You wanna advocate for men's rape victim? Conservative countries takes rape even less seriously?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/10/23 12:54 AM
1	Men's actions have been criminalised but women's aren't Which is why precautions is still necessary. Criminalizing rape isn't bad feminists agenda. Think of it this way, there is always warning hazard toys for children under 2 to play with. And that should remain so. Those warning isn't to say all company who make small toys are bad, but choking hazard can be hazardous. Precautions are precautions. Point is, everyone on lwma wants to pin cultural issues like why men's issues isn't taken seriously onto feminism. When in truth, these are ignorance pass…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/10/23 12:37 AM
1	Men's actions have been criminalised but women's aren't Rape cases is specifically particular to women. As you said, men gets targeted on the street for variety of reasons, whether it's road rage, fights, small inconvenience, men gets picked on a lot. But rape cases in the US, India, China, everywhere in the world are specific towards women. So many women who went to India have stories of being SA and rape, by men they never met before. This can't be made up. Plus they can't even report it. Rape cases in recent years in India have skyrocketed because…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/10/23 10:23 PM
1	Men's actions have been criminalised but women's aren't Yes because there's a risk particular to one group. It's predictable and preventable by warnings and cautions. You act like these precautions are bad.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	15/10/23 10:08 PM
1	Men's actions have been criminalised but women's aren't I'm not a feminist. But that's besides the point. India being more dangerous for regular people, especially for women, is not an indication of people calling all Indian criminals. Just higher population of people whom are ignorant to women's safety. Female tourists in India are kidnapped and raped but never killed, they are let go to live their normal lives after the deed is done. Because men and women are not given standard sex education on why this is morally wrong. I don't see how saying Indi…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	15/10/23 01:18 AM
1	Who has it harder in dating? Men or Women and Why? That's not always true on a general sense but an individual basis. Yes some men basically have no opportunities at all, but those men are the exceptions to the rules. Most men are capable of improving themselves and becoming a valuable partner to any women, the only setback is the compatibility. It doesn't necessarily prove my point otherwise. Exception is not the norm in this sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/23 01:11 AM
-1	Men's actions have been criminalised but women's aren't Seriously? You can't exaggerate danger. While it's men to not travel alone anywhere, there are plenty of save lone male traveler. Why do guys like you find the need to be dishonest about this?? Things like this aren't even political, straight up safety measures.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	14/10/23 04:33 PM
1	Those who have/had trouble relating to the opposite sex, what do you think caused this? Were you able to fix it? We can walk with our eyes close. Decisions base around whether we go this or that direction is entirely different thinking process. We're not thinking about the walking. We're making decisions about where to go. Different brain activity. I know what you're trying to say but muscle memory is it's own separate brain activity. The cerebellum controls that and you can basically sleepwalk dreaming outta your ass and jump out the window with that non-conscious muscle memory.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/23 11:03 AM
2	Those who have/had trouble relating to the opposite sex, what do you think caused this? Were you able to fix it? Nope. You don't know what it is Muscle memory are repetition repetition where you eventually don't need to think about the movements you've practiced. Best example of muscle memory is walking. Toddlers learned to walk. Adults don't think to walk unless they lost that muscle and have to regain them back. Muscle memory is like typing on your keyboard without thinking which letter is where anymore, you let your muscle remember for you. These are not conscious thoughts. They're muscles that you taug…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/23 10:46 AM
2	Those who have/had trouble relating to the opposite sex, what do you think caused this? Were you able to fix it? It's clear you don't have any understanding what awareness actually is. What even is the point of discussion when you're making false correlation between two unrelated things. Motor control can be trained by muscle memory. Men have better motor control because biologically they can learn to control their body much more efficiently. Muscles don't require a brain to think. 2 + 2 = 4 is muscle memory. Nobody actually thinks before knowing 2 and 2 is 4. Unless they skipped first grade math. Muscle m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/23 10:09 AM
2	Those who have/had trouble relating to the opposite sex, what do you think caused this? Were you able to fix it? There's no such thing as being naturally more aware. That is incorrect, awareness comes from noticing small details and being able to pick up observations. Men are less capable of having that type of awareness. Been proven for ages that women are capable of picking up small details, better memory, and multitask far better than men. And being consciously observant doesn't make someone take less risk and play social games, there's different social merit women has in society than men. Having emotio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/23 09:44 AM
1	Those who have/had trouble relating to the opposite sex, what do you think caused this? Were you able to fix it? Oh, when you said situational awareness I was thinking of social awareness and emotional intelligence, which women do score higher on. Women being more cautious in general is usually a sign of them paying extra attention to their surroundings. Men gets into fight more, drunk drive an pay less attention to their well-being, which I can argue makes them less situational aware than you make them out to be. Just as some guy said to me before, "young men spend their teens to age 25 finding ways to ki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/23 09:19 PM
0	Men's actions have been criminalised but women's aren't India is one of those countries that women are warned to not be alone as tourists. I doubt it's as exaggerated as you said. Rape cases has went up since pandemic.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/10/23 08:16 PM
2	Those who have/had trouble relating to the opposite sex, what do you think caused this? Were you able to fix it? Funny. It's always said that women has more situational awareness than men. Women has more instinctive intuition that tells them what is dangerous and get out of certain situations, they're more keen on protective their children as mother, and generally think ahead before doing reckless things. Men also put themselves into dangers far more often, which you can say help them develops stronger motivations after success, but it doesn't always come out as success. Men being inherently more logical i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/23 08:00 PM
1	Women don’t want men to have success in dating That's like saying men only goes for one type of women. For the longest time, the stereotype has always been men going after women who are sexually ambitious and put themselves out there. And from those women's success it's been true. Women who enjoys nerding out and about their romance novels and shows are the one that keeps to themselves. They don't always have stories about guys chasing them as much as the former. This just isn't true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/23 07:50 PM
1	I Hate The Stigma The idea that feminism is the cause of the left failing is a myth. The left today consists of upper middle class white folks living and thriving in the big city with no clue about how their trivial politics will never help the actual working class. Like you said, their identity politics bullshit and surface level protest will never help us resolve the cusps of why our country is failing to aid our own people. Far-left politics is the current western politics of creating make-believe solutions to…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/10/23 07:44 PM
1	Who has it harder in dating? Men or Women and Why? You misread my comment. I'm saying men has it harder finding partners finding dates, however its not that much easier in dating for either men or women. Relationship is difficult for both sex. Even men who found a date, doesn't mean they have a good partner. Same with women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/23 12:31 AM
0	Who has it harder in dating? Men or Women and Why? IN dating or finding dates? I don't think women has it that much easier finding a good partner and keeping partners. I'd say it's pretty equal in that aspect. Incompatibility is incompatibility But men do have a hard times finding anyone at all, which is why I said it's harder for men but does not necessarily means one or the other has it easier in dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/23 11:40 PM
1	I Hate The Stigma The left-wing have went far left 6 years ago. Their idea of progress is literally backward. I think it's much better to lean left without being left-wing like some people on reddit.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	12/10/23 09:25 PM
13	Who has it harder in dating? Men or Women and Why? Men definitely has it harder. But I wouldn't say women has it easier; in relationship, all is hard. But entering one has become immensely difficult for men these days. Speaking as a woman, most women can go with or without relationship so rejecting others comes easy. Men rejecting one woman one time in his 20s could mean losing half a lifetime worth of opportunity - and that's for majority of men it seems. I've never heard women regret rejecting another guy before. But most guys have thought abo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/23 08:43 PM
2	Most college aged women do not want 30+ year old men Fair enough. I guess you can say this is the aspect the male sex are privilege in. Personally speaking, people saying that younger men are less mature aren't completely honest. There are plenty of mature men my age I've met, they just go unnoticed because they keep to themselves. Because of that there is almost no real reason to date older.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/23 03:26 AM
1	Most college aged women do not want 30+ year old men Men are also less attractive and less fertile as they are, time takes a hit on them as well. I've rarely heard a single women my age that doesn't find older men hitting on our age attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/23 02:47 AM
-1	Most college aged women do not want 30+ year old men Probably because women knows women regardless of age. Every women has been a girl before, so by experience they probably understand young women more than men of any age. If older women are wary of men their age, then it's telling what intentions certain men has.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 11:05 PM
3	Most college aged women do not want 30+ year old men The reason why there are women in their 20s that have dated older men is because dating older men is easy but they rarely rarely are long-term choices. Older men likes younger women, but it's not always true that women likes men that are older. Plus, older men who chases younger women are never looking for long-term relationship either, hence all the bad reputation. But most women chooses men their own age for date seriously. That's always been my speculation. Another thing is, men thinks it's d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 10:47 PM
1	What this sub has taught you about dating and the other sex in general ? I wouldn't say it's feminism. There's a huge rich and poor gap rn, and social media have been lying to young men about what it means to be an accomplished person. And all those rp ideology boils down to: you gotta step on others to get where you want to go. Which isn't untrue, but the economic climb is unrealistic and shallow. I don't think rp men is well-read on politics enough to understand why those social media tricks are just there to make money out of them in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 07:13 PM
1	What this sub has taught you about dating and the other sex in general ? Oh men and women are definitely different. We different because we play a different biological role. Reddit believes in constructivism at its core and kick aside evolutionary traits like we haven't dedicated decades of studying into human biology to get there. But for most to people, they believe they are conservative. Which is the real problem to me. They have no idea what having actual values and principles means. While I'm not conservative, I can at least tell the difference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 09:14 AM
1	What this sub has taught you about dating and the other sex in general ? Who you like or end up loving is completely emotional. You never know what you get until you meet the right person, no one in the world is capable of expecting the real ups and downs of relationships until they're in one. The issue with blackpiller is that they take ones person's opinion at complete face value, even though there are several factors you wouldn't be able to consider before getting into a relationship. There's no one way to talk about preferences and expectations, if that's the que…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 08:50 AM
3	What this sub has taught you about dating and the other sex in general ? Negative impressions came from all my bad interaction on purplepill and the things some guys here says about women. And as far as I know rp has never been consistent about what their principles are. Some men believe they should fuck all women and be the horrible alpha guy dickhead, and some guys thinks women will never ever like them even though they haven't met all the women in the world. But do explain your point. Are you saying women never have a type or know who they're compatible with? Beca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 08:27 AM
1	What this sub has taught you about dating and the other sex in general ? Men think about women waaaayyy more than women thinks about men. And some men actually go crazy and conspiratorial over thinking about what we women do, live and exist sometimes. Basing their whole motivation around us and then falling short, even though they really don't have to at all. Men going suicidal over not having sex. Sometimes it seems like the opposite gender/sex is a whole different animal on the internet. But that's just the internet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 01:01 AM
1	What this sub has taught you about dating and the other sex in general ? That sounds like plain bullying, not even a rejection at that point. I've known women who are like that, but ngl, men are really bad at knowing which women they should be attracted to. Notice how the meanest women also has the most popularity, it's not a coincidence. But really, some women are young, they'll learn to be nicer as they mature and stop thinking like they're in a highschool clique in college.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 12:39 AM
1	What this sub has taught you about dating and the other sex in general ? Us humans have fought long and hard to create our own natural habitats, with our own moral standards and what's wrong and right. Which is why most men and women are monogamous, even if they can be poly. There's thousand years of social politics that necessitates this way of life. In fact, if you looked at nature, the reason most animals use poly tactic is done to save their offsprings, not the way the pseudoscience redpill makes it out to be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 12:34 AM
6	What this sub has taught you about dating and the other sex in general ? Women aren’t one entity but their attraction triggers and preferences are modeled the same way. Is there something wrong with appealing to the structure underneath that commonly guides how women make romantic decisions? I want to hear it then. As far as I heard from a couple of deranged rp dudes and incels online, according to them women only like men who beat them and break their jaws, "pump and dump" and etc,... If that was true, most women would be in domestic violence shelters, and living at…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 12:30 AM
5	When women talk about “compromise”, they are only speaking about it in one direction- as in coming from men It seems like you've been dating someone you're incompatible to. If she does not bring you happiness, and does not put in work to ensure your time and hers means something, it might just be that she's not all that interested in you in the first place? Just a thought. I've always attempted to participate in things my partner is into because otherwise our conversation and time spent together becomes straight up meaningless and nothingness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 12:16 AM
1	I don't think average men get laid that much actually I live a state away from y'all, it's a thing but I wouldn't say it's common at all. I'd be very disappointed if men regularly visits them. Then again, I shouldn't have expectations in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/23 03:03 AM
1	I don't think average men get laid that much actually Thats obviously not true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/23 02:58 AM
1	I don't think average men get laid that much actually Freedom of choice is encouraged, no women will shit on other women for the same freedom men and women should equally possess. But when it comes to sex work, most women I know go back and forth on that. Some thinks it's bad, some thinks it's fine. I personally believe prostitution is so easy to abuse you should illegalize it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 06:22 PM
6	Q4M: how would you go about dating if you were a women? What you're claiming to be "biology" is just culture. And most average women only dates average men they meet face to face and have befriend through the years. Most married couples were previously friends, and most first dates don't lead to success. If every women are aiming for the top men you'll never see any couples out there in real life? This to me doesn't reflect the actual reality at hand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 01:28 PM
1	45% of men age 18-25 have never approached a woman in person I would assume most report of harassments comes from densely populated cities like New York or San Fran, and I can assure you harassment have been common, but it died down after COVID. I'd say the rate of harassment has decreased for us women, doesn't mean it hardly happen anymore. Walk down the wrong street, wrong neighborhood, or if you live in a bad street you will face the wrong types of people. Lots of these dudes are much older men anyway. Using 18-25 years old men today as proof is the wr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 01:20 PM
1	Ladies. How would you feel in this situation? I think the issue is the OP believe a billionaire douche with only Disney and money to offer is the only reasons women would date that guy, but the dude doesn't have anything else but demands to offer. None of this seems realistic to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 01:13 PM
–	Ladies. How would you feel in this situation? I think it's strange to go a total 180 in lifestyle and treatment. It's strange to demand something that either of us is financially incapable of accomplishing. I should be free to choose whether I work outside and if he demands chores he better pick up the broom and fold the damn laundry. And seeing his history, I don't trust him at all. It's obvious that big tits and sex matters a lot to him since he treats his ex-wives so much better than me despite what he says. An obvious pass. If he mainta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 01:08 PM
4	I don't think average men get laid that much actually Isn't escorts prostitution? Isn't that illegal in this country?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 12:32 PM
–	What blue pill advice do you think people choose to misinterpret? Most men date one woman at a time? And it's also normal for men to have more than one partners. Women don't share their partner smdh. That's something you guys made up in your head.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 12:28 PM
8	I don't think average men get laid that much actually THANK YOU. So sick of obviously not-so-average guy claiming that apparently 80% of men are in the same position. Which is crazy, cause I didn't realize going to a regular ass college implies meeting the top 20% of guys who are apparently the only functional men in existence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 12:11 PM
3	I don't think average men get laid that much actually Jesus...how many guys find escorts? Where do you even find escorts?? I'm shocked, didn't realize this was a common thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 12:03 PM
0	"Men have abused women for eons" Bro. That's just how society was. What other words can we use. That's the official term. You can't overwrite a huge part of what made human society. Like you said, what other foundation of society could there be, humanity was patriarchal out of necessity and that's the best they could do with the resources they have. Which is why people are and will always be amoral, so they built a system sadly to exploit the lower class. It was what it was. Even if you changed the word the circumstances is the…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/08/23 06:53 PM
0	"Men have abused women for eons" I'm guessing we're talking mostly about ancient chinese history at this point. I'll try to discuss this to the limits of what I do know - although a good chunk of past social history were erased and rewritten by the ccp. Swords are too valuable to just hand out to useless soldiers who can't wield them. In fact, because people who joined the military in the past, soldiers are basically confined to said career for life - in exchange for foods and other necessities. While harsh, some who made it ou…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/08/23 03:28 AM
1	"Men have abused women for eons" I'm sorry, I didn't realize medieval Europe had a different history. In most of east asia, most military professions were easy to get into and was one of the lowest profession that allows for quick success and acknowledgment. Male heir receives compensations for their success, and family gets rewarded by the emperor. In Japan, the military were so barbaric they basically does whatever the hell they wanted to regular people. After some research, I did not realize how much of European history reli…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	14/08/23 02:11 AM
1	"Men have abused women for eons" I've always said this to people in some form or another. Life was simply hard back then, it's almost impossible and unfair to judge people in the past with our modern moral standards. When you are poor, you were so easily dispensable that your death is forgettable. There were no laws holding the royalty or people of higher positions from killing the poors who remotely offended them. They treated both men and women like this. However, because of how class system works and their economy, there are…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	12/08/23 08:32 PM
1	(question) Did men build this system that men suffer in it thousands of years ago? Can you please explain the post agrarian misinformation? I want to understand with better context.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	04/08/23 06:08 AM
1	What is this subreddit's opinion on a land value tax? It's not the tax that's the problem but terrible regulation and irresponsible spending that's the problem. Tax is our only source of public funding for schools, the district, the streets and etc anyway. Without land tax most road would be dirt roads.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	04/08/23 06:01 AM
1	(question) Did men build this system that men suffer in it thousands of years ago? Historians have never deny that there were lower classes, class warfare and even men enslaved, and death were high amongst everyone indiscriminately. Historians also never used patriarchy to define a perfect fair social hierarchy where 100% of the men have no hardship at all and somehow live in a utopia. Human were patriarchal in the past, it was our culture for thousands of years and that is acknowledged universally. Lion fought other lions for the pride, male gorilla kill each other to be silv…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	04/08/23 05:53 AM
-1	(question) Did men build this system that men suffer in it thousands of years ago? You're talking about England right now. It's a different culture after protestant church, it was a reformation period after 1500. And even then the first queen in Europe happened only 500 years ago. About the same time Columbus settle in America. Gender problems occured since the abrahamic religion, and even before that, the Greek hated women. This is a very dishonest observation of history. Some women, depending on her status, are lower than slaves in Ancient Greek. Only a very minority of wome…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	31/07/23 04:05 PM
-4	(question) Did men build this system that men suffer in it thousands of years ago? Patriarchy is not a fallacy. It is true that there is hierarchy positions in the past where men are given the right to seize power. Women can only marry to a man of power, that or she was arranged to. Women do not have equal power to men in the past. Denying patriarchy exist is like denying the entire social structure that humanity used to create a society. And England is just one of the many country in the past, the world wasn't England back then, and even back in medieval times the English wer…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	30/07/23 03:52 PM