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CMV0seagirl/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:05 PM
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Purge Week!0seagirl/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:23 PM
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CMV0seagirl/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 03:26 PM
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Question For Men0seagirl/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 01:15 PM
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Discussion0seagirl/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 08:33 AM
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CMV0seagirl/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:21 AM
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I fantasize about the unexplored Space sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 04:22 PM
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he should grow balls and rely on men for emotional connection Men who will insult him and call him a wimp? Look at the comments from men here about this post and on the thread. It seems just as hard for men to forge a genuine emotional bond (and not be insulted) with men, as it is with women tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 10:39 AM
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I don't have a Facebook group. Or fake sympathy. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 09:56 AM
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"I'm dating a man who wasn't "allowed" to be emotional with his ex wife, and it's breaking my heart how some women can do this." Depressing. The comments from men saying they've had the same too. It's miserable that this is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:27 AM
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I'm seeing a lot of this in the media recently. I remembered this article - Staggeringly high’ number of autistic people on UK Prevent scheme. I think there's a lot of truth to it, personally. I was reading a post about Autistic women the other day and this stood out: "Extreme social naivity, and therefore may be at greater risk of being recruited into a cult or extreme group OR supporting or engaging in extremism. Some individuals can be “manipulated” into supporting/engaging in extremism." I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:04 AM
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BPD is femaleness taken to its furthest extent Just a side note that BPD is commonly misdiagnosed in women who are actually autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 07:59 AM
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How can a man who opens up about his vulnerabilities and cries instead of being competitive do the protection? He can not. By "protection", what exactly do you mean? Because I'm sure men can cry and be strong at the same time. I think it takes strength for men to show vulnerability and be human, in fact. will have dry vaginas whenever their man actually cries. You're used some randoms Twitter feed as a source? Are you for real?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 02:02 PM
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They fake their beauty, fake their youth, fake their body. K-pop stars are wearing hip pads, women use filters on top of make up with best lighting possible, they wear heels, makeup, pushup bras, you name it. NAWALT. In fact, since we've established this as an amoral pursuit, I'd go as far to say that outright lying about wealth should be acceptable too, so why shouldn't men do it? https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2012/02/01/466826/18858/en/New-Study-Discovers-80-of-Men-in-Current-Econ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 01:45 PM
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Personally i wouldnt date a girl with male friends. I would date a girl who doesnt do that and is respectful to me. What would you do if she made a male friend in her life while with you? What if she met a man she could imagine you also being friends with, and wanted to introduce you to him, so you could all hang out together?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 11:25 AM
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Lol lets not make ot childish. It already is childish. Banning friends because you're afraid of them cheating is childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 11:23 AM
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This is a brilliant point. If your only experience of the opposite sex is relationships / sex, your experience is going to be limited to that, and I can see that clouding your perception of the opposite sex as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 11:02 AM
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As my statement is basically that opposite sex friends are bad for monogamous relationships. That's like saying it's bad for your partner to have eyes, because they might see someone sexier than you and cheat on you with them. So eyes are bad for monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:53 AM
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It's way too possessive and insecure. Depriving a person of friendships with other people because you're worried they'll cheat doesn't seem like a good strategy for ensuring someone stays with you anyway. They'll very likely just end up leaving you because you've made them feel trapped and restricted. Self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:51 AM
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Lol, wow, OP must have edited a huge part of their post out. I can't find any of the stuff you quoted in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:50 AM
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Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:07 AM
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Would lonely men unable to find a willing partner to sexually engage with, prefer there being no sexual outlets for them at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:02 AM
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Tbf, the whole "you need to love yourself before someone else can love you" is nonsense whether it's directed toward women or men. I've loved men who have hated themselves, and men have loved me when I've hated myself. It's just bullshit advice which only seems to make people struggling with self-hatred feel even worse. The reason why this advice is easier for women to follow is because they already have the confirmation they need through social media, their friends, and dating apps. Everyday, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:19 AM
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one of the most traumatic things that can happen to a young man is having some kind of sexual problem in a relationship, only to find out that the girl he loved was way more sexual with someone else No, it's not. That's retroactive jealousy. A psychological condition the young man should check himself into therapy for. I get feeling a little intimidated by your exes past, but... "traumatic"?! No. scar him for life, even make him suicidal. The dude needs psychological help.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:24 AM
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Young people tend to be naive due to lack of experience. and therefore vulnerable to manipulation by older people. That does not mean that "women are children", which I am quite sure you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 05:29 PM
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Great quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 12:05 PM
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Not sure if it’s just me, but everyday I noticed more and more women are just becoming unhappy. In my college campus, they always look depressed and frustrated. Even at my work (I work in a restaurant) they seem stressed and overall in a bad mood. We're in the midst of a global crisis. Of course we're miserable and our mental health is in the gutter. How you're concluding that we must be miserable because we have more equality - more of a good thing, which benefits us - is absolutely beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:47 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 03:09 PM
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Hey thank you. All of this makes absolute perfect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 01:46 PM
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labeling theory Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:47 PM
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Current thoughts on this - For as long as the popular narrative around toxic masculinity is on the attack, and aggressively dismissive of mens' experiences, nothing will change, but it will just further fan the flames of pre-existing problems by making men feel even more left out than they already do. I wonder if this is what we are seeing now, and if we will just see more and more of it until this changes. Also the thing of, "If you relentlessly paint me as a monster, even though I'm not one, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:43 PM
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I just made this post in the Daily Megathread, because this thread reminded me of the linked article from some time back (it always stuck around in my head for some reason). I really wonder what you and other men here think of it. Do you think that tradition needs a new overhaul? That we need to replace the old traditions of outdated masculinity with new ones? Do you think we need to go back to men reclaiming the old ones? Interesting topic that I kind of don't get sick of seeing around here (I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:18 PM
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This is the stupid thing: I'm not even worried he'll screw me over. This isn't even about me being worried he'll cheat or something. He's an awesome guy and I'm literally just worried I might not be that good compared to other women he's been with, when he's literally the absolute best I've ever had. Maybe I should just be thankful he's had the experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 11:19 AM
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That's a fair point. I think my own sexual history maybe had me set in a particular view - 3 of my exes were awkward aspie virgins. The man I'm with now is sociable af and was a touring musician. Basically the opposite. Yeah I need to get over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 10:41 AM
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Time to be honest. My bf's sexual history intimidates me. He's had 5 LTRs (including me), and around 26 sexual partners. I've had 5 LTRs (including him), and 6 sexual partners. He is also 10 years older than me, which of course would also count for the difference, but still, it just seems like so many women to me. What are the chances I'm magically the best he's ever had? What are the chances I bump into these women and chat with them with no idea he once fucked the daylights out of her? I wonde…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 09:58 AM
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So much hey I feel like a freaking horse. What app features women capable of conversation? Tbf men are just as bad. When I was on dating sites, the vast majority of messages I got were "hey" or "hey babe / hun". And most of their bios were txt talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:50 AM
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why are women this way Because there are plenty of men who are also engaging in casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:47 AM
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It's being shown more and more that being vaccinated doesn't necessarily stop you from spreading Covid (especially, the Delta variant), but can help keep you out of hospital and lessen the severity of your own suffering, but people are still minging on about "don't be selfish! Get the vaccine to protect others!" Vaccinated people are catching covid, and then taking to the internet to shout about how it must have been a "stupid, selfish anti-vaxxer" who "gave them" covid. ??? It's as though peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:04 AM
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Oh wow.. https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/08/milo-yiannopoulos-caught-covid-19-now-injecting-livestock-meds/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 01:57 AM
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It's possible to be lonely while in a relationship. This isn't something exclusive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 09:57 PM
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Gloria Steinem and Bell Hooks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:59 PM
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Man, that was a tough read. That poor guy. Did he dump her in the end? I wouldn't blame him. How can you carry on in the relationship after that? If I heard my bf talking about an ex like that I have no idea how I could maintain my desire for him. You know you'd always feel second best. Edit- He did leave. Good for him. It's crazy that she got angry with him over it. If anyone should feel angry in that situation, it's definitely him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:41 AM
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Motive: YouTube Demonitization. Feminism is mentioned exactly zero times in the entire article. Eroding our rights and freedoms. Are you sure feminism isn't about giving women equal power to men? Because I think that's what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:40 AM
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When was the last time a feminist went on a murderous rampage? What are feminists actually doing that could be anywhere near as bad as incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:25 AM
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So, nothing to say about the numerous (and recent) incel murder sprees and shootings, then? Interesting!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 08:26 AM
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We have incels now going on murderous rampages and shooting sprees. Discussions are being held around the world on their being classified as "terrorists" they hate women so much. Say what you want about feminists "hating men" but at least we don't go around literally murdering people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:15 AM
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This sub feels kinda dead lately. The regular topics have finally run their course maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:07 AM
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I'm guessing this is nature's way of ensuring that women don't "accidentally" breed with a genetically unfit man. Men can afford to waste sperm, women can't afford to waste eggs. Pretty much this. It's riskier for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:57 PM
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Not at all. I think there are power imbalances in a great many relationships, for many reasons, and all of those aren't always at all harmful. Also, power balances are prone to changing and shifting over time due to factors such as aging, illness / disability, career changes, unemployment, and raising children. As long as exploitation or abuse isn't occuring, it's pretty natural imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:06 PM
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There are physically ugly men in relationships. There are super mobidly obese men in relationships. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 09:01 PM
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Former sex worker here, (I wore thong underwear on and off for years), I genuinely have no idea how other women find them comfortable. The first time I tried on a thong I was just like "Oh, so it's basically a perma-wedgie..." and it never stopped feeling like that to me. I've seen so many women with obvious thong panty-lines too, lol. Unless the underwear itself is made of seamless fabric (in which case, you can just buy regular panties like this), if you're wearing an outfit with material shee…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 11:48 AM
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Excessive emphasis is usually put on appearance by incels, because the depth of their own self-perception is shallow. It simply can't go any further. Throw in some black and white thinking mixed with RP ideologies, and as far as they're concerned, if they're not Chad, women will never want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 11:19 AM
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Women like to advertise any of their single friends (though usually it's the less attractive ones that need the help) as Gods' gift to men, and will try to set them up with any guy who will listen. Do women actually do this irl? Or is this just something you've seen in movies? I don't know any women like this, and I'd never act like this myself. It's so cringey. It reminds me of the women in Despicable Me 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 07:17 AM
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Idk why you're talking about this like it's exclusive to girls. Plenty of boys also crush on unattainable famous women, actresses, models, singers, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 02:05 PM
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For example the 5’7” guy with a good job who couldn’t get any matches on dating apps and went dateless for most of his 30s marries the woman who likely had an active dating life and now is trying to find someone to take care of her children/family? Like let’s be real the guy will look at her like the best thing ever Are you sure about that? Single mothers who enjoyed an active sexual history and now "want someone to take care of her children" are possibly not only the least desired, but also the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:27 AM
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I’ve seen countless posts on social media about “icks” and women suddenly being repulsed or even hating by their partner in relationships, typically by younger women who are clearly not ready to settle down with a beta yet in a committed relationship. You see a lot of young people generally experiencing "inexplicable" feelings, which are really, feelings they don't fully understand or comprehend yet. I'm not sure how the OP is extrapolating that a woman experiencing a feeling as incredibly vague…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:54 AM
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To be fair, everyone has to deal with the fact that they're not perfect. Everyone has to deal with not being the most desirable person on Earth. Women are aware what men find the most sexually desirable (big tits, tiny waist, youth, etc, etc), and all of us will age out of that eventually, anyway. Love changes a lot about this stuff, though. I assure you, you can be a less than perfect human, and still have someone feel you're the best thing on the planet. Idk if this makes you feel any better. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 07:29 AM
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Also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:14 PM
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If you both smoke, you don't really notice it. If one partner smokes, the non-smoker is gonna have a bad time for sure though. Always best to give up smoking anyways though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 06:51 PM
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I envison incels are being unlikely to smoke. I guess because some incels have a this tendency to lean on the pious side - "I'm a good guy. I do not drink, smoke, do drugs, party, go to bars, etc. Why am I single?" "Hey, do you have a lighter I can borrow?", "Want a smoke?" - Smoking is too flirty and sociable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 06:44 PM
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Some of the men on here will be angry at your standards even if you’ve found someone who meets them or superseded them. Especially if you've found someone who meets or supersedes them. EDIT - I wrote "superseed" instead of "supersede", but I guess that also works.. MY BF SUPERSEEDS ME EVERY DAMN NIGHT, BABY!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 06:28 PM
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This is partly the reason I'm not having kids. I just don't get how people can look at this hellhole and think "ah :) ... y'know what this planet needs more of?.... CHILDREN!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 06:25 PM
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They'll emigrate to one or more of the many other camsites. I imagine many of them will already have accounts set up on other sites. Having back-up sites is pretty popular knowledge for camgirls. I honestly don't see how this will have much to do with the dating market, though. Are men hoping that women working on OF will start crying, apply to work at McDonalds and be so humbled by the experience of one site changing that they'll start sucking incel cock? I'm not sure what the expectation of da…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 03:24 PM
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You can still live your life and have fun while settled down, Debatable. Your ability to "have fun" will be significantly compromised depending on what you like to do for fun. Getting drunk or high are off the cards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 12:41 PM
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it's not predatory on the man's part if he only wants the woman for her body. If the man is giving her the impression that he does want her for more than her body, then yes, it is predatory, and it's generally the only reason a man would want to be with a woman so out of his age range in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:43 AM
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Reasons it's concerning has been stated countless times in this thread at this point: There is an obvious difference in power dynamic; the man generally having much more power over the younger woman which often leads to exploitation. Older women know this, because we've been there ourselves. It wasn't just "creepy", it was immoral. There being little reason for the match other than using her for sex. Dehumanizing the woman by way of fetishizing her for her age. If the idea of a man being used fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:42 AM
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Because it isn't healthy for a person to not mind about being reduced to their genitals. Sure, you don't have to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 12:09 AM
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I'm not arguing that every age gap relationship is creepy. However, an 18 year old with a 40 year old who is with her for "fresh pussy" is creepy whether or not the 18 year old calls herself worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 09:24 PM
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What the hell is gonna happen to the platform if its main use is curbed? It'll go under extremely fast I imagine... Wtf could they possibly replace it with that would be anywhere comparable with porn? OF became absolutely synonymous with buying women's nudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 06:57 PM
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I wonder if a lot of the content makers will flock to other established camsites.. God, I'm just imagining the amount of competition will be off the scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 06:54 PM
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Wow thanks for this link! Stunning music.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 06:53 PM
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Holy wow.. Most of the members will have to jump ship to other porn sites to sustain their earnings, then.. I can't imagine the subs wanting to pay for anything other than porn. Surely this is a death sentence for OF as a platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 06:50 PM
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I'm getting into vaporwave /retrowave art. So, so much is centered around this dreamy Californian image and palm trees. As someone who does not live in the US, I'm curious - does California have the same reputation in the US now as it did in the 80s?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 06:45 PM
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And justifying predatory actions with other hypothetical predatory actions doesn’t make a case for doing it. I'm getting quite a bit of that in my inbox.. "Women are hurtful assholes to men in x way, so that means it's okay for me to be a hurtful asshole to women in z way"... Some interesting logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 06:10 PM
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You're missing the full picture. How many 18 year old women would knowingly consent to having sex with a man who said they view them as "young, fresh pussy" and nothing more? Technically, she consented to sex with this man without having knowing the full picture, that he's exploiting her. Sometimes, (let's use the example of sex work), this transaction is completely consensual, because both parties know the bigger picture. How many 40 year old men would consent to having a relationship with a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:54 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:40 PM
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Women are perfectly fine with being used as long as it is with their consent. I don't disgaree with you. Consent is the key word here. That's why I used the word "generally". It doesn't apply 100% of the time. Men generally don't like to be viewed as walking wallets, but you also get wealthy men with sugar babies or men who have a financial domination fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:39 PM
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Get out of here, everything a man does is predatory to you women. So looking at a woman as a nothing but a walking fuckhole is somehow.. not predatory? Is that the hill you really want to die on? Seriously? You're angry because you're assuming hypocrisy. That's absolutely fine. There was a post here where I literally gave an example of a female predator, seeing a wealthy man as a walking wallet. That's bad too. I'm sick of the "Why, I'd never!!" mentality of women like you. I've never used a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:37 PM
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It was literally all you had to say about why a middle-aged man would be interested in this hypothetical young woman. So yes, it is absolutely predatory. Her value was about her genitalia, nothing else. And look, here's another perspective to help you understand how power balances can work: A young woman knows a wealthy, and recently widowed 40 year old man. The love of his life died in a car crash. He is utterly devestated and his life will never be the same again. His grief and trauma has made…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 03:25 PM
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Yes. What's your point? OP is talking about 18 year old women. Adolescence is defined (by the WHO at least) as up to age 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 03:08 PM
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You were asked why a middle aged man would be interested in a girl young enough to be his daughter, and you responded with: New, fresh pussy. That's a predatory way of looking at another person, period. You've reduced a person to a body part. I can't think of a single young woman who would be okay with being seen this way by a middle-aged man, even younger women who would potentially be interested in an older man for a sexual relationship. This is why people are concerned, and this is why people…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 03:05 PM
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"Adolescent girls with older male main partners are at greater risk for adverse sexual health outcomes than other adolescent girls. One explanation for this finding is that low relationship power occurs with partner age difference." Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3706999/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:44 PM
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But let's say "something" needs to be done. What can be done that will not encroach on basic freedoms and that can actually be done? As much as the obvious, (loving, stable family environment), awareness and educating girls and young women on how to avoid predatory men is always good. Guidance on things to watch out for is vital - things like "Is he pushing you to sexual things very early on?", "Does he seem pushy when it comes to sending nudes?", etc. I definitely could have done with guidance …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:40 PM
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Because we're taught from a young age that our worth is based on our SMV. It's pretty difficult to disentangle ourselves from that kind of social conditioning, probably the same way it is for men conflating their masculinity with their worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 09:42 AM
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I cannot help finding a physically beautiful woman attractive. Why did these women not at least give me a few years of their youth so I would have time to fall in love with them and permanently burn their image in my mind’s eye? I need something to remember when we are 50 and married. Yet she spent her 20’s parceling herself out to guys who gave her nothing and offers nothing to the guy who gives her everything. I’m expected to commit hard earned resources to raising children with what is ultima…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 07:42 PM
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Women have bad experiences with ALL their relationships. Why just single out experiences with older men? Because in this case, I'm making an observation specifically how older women are treated when it comes to speaking about their experiences in age gap relationships when they were younger. The way men will make it about perceptions of dwindling sexiness aren't made by men when it's about any other, general, "bad relationship commentary". It leads me to believe there is an alternative motive fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 06:10 PM
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This is the point I was making in my initial post. Men invalidating the experiences of older women on the basis of being unsexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 05:33 PM
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He looks like he gained weight.. Though yeah, I agree with people saying his jawline is more pronounced. (I prefer him before. I'm female.) EDIT - Just showed my bf. He says "he looks like David Hasselhoff now." Ironic really, because of the Baywatch thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 05:12 PM
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Lmfao. Any of this could literally apply to men just the same. Welfare goes to "men who fucked up" too. Tax money goes on men too. Men carry emotional baggage too. Men get therapy and go on meds too. Men get fucked up by life just the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 05:09 PM
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It's interesting then that so many older women speak out on their bad experiences then, isn't it? We all know it’s really women trying to salvage their dating pool post wall. What does that have to do with speaking about your experiences with older men as a younger woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 05:07 PM
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"No one can be exploited unless they want to be exploited" is immature, simplistic af thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 05:05 PM
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and then demand that I pay for them. Why don't you want to elaborate on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 05:02 PM
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Then why do you think age gap relationships must be "defended"? I said "predatory age gap relationships". Not "all age gap relationships". And why are you here deriding them and speaking of them as things to be avoided and in which women are getting exploited? Because the subject of my observation was specifically about predatory ones. I don't think all age gap relationships are inherently exploitative.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:57 PM
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Oh you have got to be fucking kidding me! This is absolutely ridiculous. I'm in an age gap relationship, FFS.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:52 PM
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Let's take your argument I didn't make an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:37 PM
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I'm still curious on your rant about "and they expect men to pay!" As far as I can see you never did elaborate on that...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:36 PM
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What you're essentially demanding Once again, I'm not "demanding" anything. I'm commenting on something I noticed when age gap relationships get brought up, and the responses to them. I didn't even make an argument about age relationships being wrong or unethical in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:31 PM
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If the exploitation is happening, she is choosing to be exploited. If he does not respect her, she is choosing to be disrespected. Your thinking is far, far too simplistic for this discussion. You imagine that because you state that something doesn't exist, then it doesn't exist because you said so. Did you know that people have written entire books on the subjects of exploitation, manipulation and coersion? People dedicate their lives to the study of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:21 PM
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This isn't even about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:16 PM
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Thats next level putting words in my mouth. That is very obviously not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 03:57 PM
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This topic is about predatory age gap relationships, older women's thoughts on them, and ways I've seen men respond to those women. Not "any and all gap relationships". Not "18 year old women are incapable of making decisions about sex". This is, very specifically, as directly and clearly stated, about relationships in which a younger women is being exploited by an older man for his sexual gain, when he has no respect her as anything more than a glorified sex toy. That's why it went over your he…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 03:32 PM
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demand that I pay for them Who exactly is demanding you "pay for them"? Pay for them how?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 03:18 PM
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Your thinking is so intensely black and white) that the complexity of this subject, predatory age gap relationships, is flying too high over your head and you're furious about it. It's telling that you didn't even address my original observation. You just read "predatory age gap" and leap straight to the defensive, dramatically begging for people responding to this thread to entertain your dichotomous thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 03:13 PM
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This topic isn't about women aged 18 and over having sex and whether they should or shouldn't be allowed to do this or that legally. Ironically, this topic is about how predatory men respond when predatory age gaps are discussed by older women who experienced them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 03:04 PM
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I'm not "demanding" anything at all. I simply made an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 02:51 PM
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I think you're confusing how vulnerable girls respond to older men showing interest in us, because imo it was much less "mmm, he's so hot!" and more "boys my age just want to pump and dump, whereas this older man might be more mature / love me / treat me well". Speaking for myself here, my own age gap relationship was definitely not based on healthy, regular attraction at all. Sadly, I think often - on account of the typically very overt sexual aggression of boys / young men in our own peer grou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 02:22 PM
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rest of all you said is word salad. That's an issue you might want a doctor to check out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 01:46 PM
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Men defending predatory age gap relationships with very young women will attempt to invalidate the points older women make about them, as though those same older women haven't literally had 1st hand experience of the same kinds of men when they were younger. Conclusions made via lived experience with these men aren't born from jealousy or wishing we could go back to being taken advantage of or exploited all over again. They're born from regretting we ourselves got involved with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 01:16 PM
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People still want to live their own lives for a while before settling down. It also makes sense to accumilate sufficient wisdom from having lived a life to raise a child with any amount of know-how about the world. Not to mention, how many people in their early 20s have the stability (financially and in terms of housing and relationship) to start a family with certainty that they'll be able to keep those things in check? That aside, it's not exactly impossible to be fit enough to take care of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:32 AM
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I'm not sure how men here are interpreting this "physical protection" aspect, but I think it's getting misconstrued... It's not neccersarily about men having to physically fight off men who approach women. It's the fact that when men see a woman with a man, they won't even approach. The mere presence of a man scares off other men from approaching, harassing, or intimidating a woman. A lone woman is a different story. I've been out with my boyfriend, he's left me alone for minutes, and I've been …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 12:39 PM
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I don't think you sound like a low value man. Plenty of women who play video games, smoke weed, are depressed would be attracted to their match. Obesity and porn addiction decrease your chances way more than the things you mentioned, but just my opinion I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 12:32 PM
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What makes you think we don't have to deal with female orbiters? I found my bf attractive, after all; he has ex-girlfriends who obviously found him attractive too. It's possible for more than one woman to be attracted to one man at any given time. It doesn't make me jealous or insecure though. People finding each other attractive is just life. So long as he's not actually pursuing them or leading them along, it's no big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:26 AM
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It's ironic, isn't it? These people are so terrified that they might be going out with a crazy psycho, that they become it trying to find out. You can't help but wonder how they'd feel if men did this "form of vetting" to them, and how they'd respond. The only boyfriend I had who wanted access to my personal emails, texts, etc, turned out to be extremely emotionally abusive as well. I'd go as far as to say that invasion of privacy itself can be a form of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 06:12 AM
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Because calling it "she got pumped and dumped" satisfies the revenge fantasy much more than "she had casual sex". By reframing it as "pumped and dumped", they make it sound more like she was used and dumped, (maybe in tears the next day), rather than her simply having consensual, enjoyable casual sex with a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 02:44 PM
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I got 37.8%. 2/5 - "Down To Earth". I wonder if the stats are being collected on the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:29 PM
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It's a real shame this sub has reduced to just cross-posting from women's subs and doing "the male version". Idk if this is a recent thing but it seems way too shitposty / low quality content.
/r/MensRights06/07/21 04:02 PM
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Unsure which is worse at this point: Incels, or the men who hate-fuck women and have... stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:41 AM
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Tbf, that level of "as a man, I very proudly and angrily don't want to do ANYTHING AT ALL to look even okay for my age, and I will do everything to look as haggard as possible As A Man, but plzz pwetty wimmin, never age!" is pretty classic for around these parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:42 AM
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Women aren't witholding sex from men as some kind of cruel, deceptive "game". Not only do women plain not want to fuck on the first date, (or even second, or third), but also, getting straight into sex on the first date/s could potentially negatively influence further interaction. Sex before getting to know each other "hooks" the guy into thinking he's going to be getting more, if the dates are otherwise going well, and yet you're both still in a position in your mutual understanding where you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 08:27 PM
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If that's the case, women's attraction is as ruthlessly utilitarian as men's is superficial and shallow. Women get defensive about it the same as men do when women highlight how shallow men's attraction to women is. But because the every woman doesn't ditch a man if he's unemployed, the same way every man doesn't ditch women for "hitting the wall", it seems odd to devote so much energy to it. Of course these discussions have a time and a place, but on PPD, men certainly fixate excessively on wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 05:49 PM
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I don't prefer women. I've only ever fallen in love with men. I just don't see men's and women's bodies the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:50 PM
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If anything positive has come from this thread other than sharing our feelings about the issue in a space men can see, it's been validating other women's rage. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 02:36 PM
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Absolutely. We're not only expected to accept it, we're also not allowed to feel anything negative about it even though it can lead to trauma. From some (way too many) of the comments from men here upon reading our responses to how being sexualized makes us feel, our rage just makes them hate us all the more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 02:31 PM
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I have no sources to back this up, but imo there could potentially be influenced by our culture. At least in western culture, women's bodies are extremely sexualized, far far more than are men's, which could play a role perhaps? I remember being a little girl and watching Who Framed Roger Rabbit? (damn I loved that movie) I can't remember ever seeing any male character being treated anywhere near the same way Jessica Rabbit was. There wasn't anything comparable, and there were other female chara…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 02:24 PM
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Also very convenient!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:58 AM
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When I'm angry, of course, my mind - being a female mind - drifts to fluffy kittens and dresses. My mind is merely filled with sweetness at all times. I could simply never commit the known crime of being a female harbouring an ill thought about anyone. If a second elapses wherein I am thinking of anything other than candy floss, and, heaven forbid, wanders to a sinful thought, I do so hope a man somewhere lectures me about how insane I am and puts me right!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:51 AM
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That's very convenient! You're not a man by any chance, are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:05 AM
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It’s weird because men today always complain girls don’t dress feminine and how they aren’t ladylike anymore and it’s like yeah, because you wouldn’t leave us alone. This is such a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:00 AM
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This thread has shown that women don't like being treated like pieces of meat put on earth for men to fuck. Shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 08:59 AM
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That is really evil. You edited your post to include this. You know what's really evil? Children being sexualized and girls being made to feel unsafe by men. For as long as you're crying over women's thoughts in their heads rather than the real actions those thoughts come as a result of, your morals and your priorities are absolutely and completely fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:47 PM
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We can't have women thinking things can we?! Especially anything bad about men who sexualize them! I'm shocked and appalled! So offensive!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:28 PM
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I don't think you're "rightfully mad" at all, lol. I think your anger is truly misplaced. Women can think whatever we wish about men who sexualize us and treat us like pieces of meat put on Earth for them to fuck. She enjoys the odd violent thought about men who are pieces of shit. Who cares? Instead of trying to thought police women, perhaps worry about something worth worrying about, like adult men making sexual comments at children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:25 PM
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You have nothing to say about men sexualizing girls in real life, but you're happy to demonize women for their resulting violent thoughts in their minds. Men aren't psychos for their actions which harm girls and women, but women are insane psychos for thinking things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:01 PM
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I'd say it's a perfectly normal, sane reaction to being on the receiving end of men being monsterous paedophiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 08:20 PM
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She's talking about men sexualizing her as a child, and how it makes her feel. I notice you had nothing to say about men sexualizing children, but you will pathologize our rage about that like we're absolutely crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:40 PM
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I relate to everything you said so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:03 PM
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Indeed. if you don't have faith in men, they might act weird. it works both ways It's what you fucking said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 02:21 PM
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you don't really know what you want. Knock that shit off.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 02:20 PM
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"If only you ~believed in men~, then maybe they wouldn't hurt you!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 02:15 PM
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Tons of men who stay sexless are usually of the monk archetype. They are among the most satisfied and at peace people in existence. "Tons" of men? Seriously? Are you sure they're not of the asexual archetype? I just googled "monk archetype" and stumbled across this incredibly kooky website explaining 74 archetypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 01:47 PM
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Yes this exactly. I have so much anger and hate inside of me because of it. And men just say oh why are you so angry? "Oh you're just being neurotic", "typical female overreaction", "you'll miss it when you get older", "stop being hysterical", "what were you wearing?", "just don't go out ever again then lol", and on and on and on... It's just not enough to blame women as though we somehow bring the harassment on ourselves, they then also invalidate, denigrate and mock us for the rage we feel as …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 01:24 PM
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I think being quarantined made men even more aggressive after. Definitely. I immediately remembered this news article about female runners facing increased sexual harassment in lockdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 12:49 PM
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“Male fantasies, male fantasies, is everything run by male fantasies? Up on a pedestal or down on your knees, it's all a male fantasy: that you're strong enough to take what they dish out, or else too weak to do anything about it. Even pretending you aren't catering to male fantasies is a male fantasy: pretending you're unseen, pretending you have a life of your own, that you can wash your feet and comb your hair unconscious of the ever-present watcher peering through the keyhole, peering throug…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 12:16 PM
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Or perhaps you ought to stop being so arrogant as to presume to tell women what we want. Men telling women they're wrong about their own thoughts and feelings shouldn't have any place in discussion here. How can you not see how conceited that is? The woman you responded to is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 10:58 AM
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Is a hooker an expert on men’s sexuality? That depends. Some sex workers do study sexuality. If pleasing men is your profession, it makes sense to study it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:38 AM
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the young stuff? I think this is the grossest way of referring to young women I've ever heard. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:19 AM
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The mass majority of men are of course saying we prefer no makeup, and are being downvoted, or outright having comments removed. While many of the womens comments saying that men cant tell if women are wearing make up are rising to the top. The women are right though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:17 AM
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No matter who tf you are, getting really good at lead guitar will always be impressive and sexy. I'm female and value musical skill, but I'd definitely do this still if I were a man in this situation. I'd work on being socially charming, not in an "alpha", or sexually aggressive way. I wouldn't necessarily work on being muscular either. If I were a short man, I'd work at being cute but cool. Unphased by taller alpha dudes whose appeal is a world away anyway. I'd work on my social intelligence an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 08:38 PM
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I think we've reached peak PPD with this thread. Wtf?!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:40 PM
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Shit, why don’t you check with Interpol and run his dossier, to make sure he’s not an internationally wanted terrorist while you’re at it? Wait till you hear about Clare's Law. If some woman I barely know was secretly taking pictures of my license plate and sending it to her friends I’d end things right there if I found out. It’s not okay with me and foreshadows more serious violations of privacy and or trust Hypothetical license plate photo-taking lady will be heartbroken.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:31 PM
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Oh, well thank goodness you have graced us ladies of PPD with your validation on what is a reasonable precaution.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:45 PM
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I was taught this at School too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:35 PM
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More like an excellent example of how women navigate a world inhabited by predatory men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:35 PM
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Too much true crime fandom… The difference is you see it on true crime fandoms. Women are out there irl having their drinks spiked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:32 PM
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For now I've just concluded that people who spend most of their time on these subreddits aren't the ones I would ever associate with IRL. They're hardly the well-rounded, balanced types of human beings anyway. Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:16 PM
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I don't think it'd look like a normal relationship at all. It'd likely largely be regarded as a creepy sham by others around the couple, doomed to failure. At such completely different life stages, they're not liable to have much, if anything, in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:16 PM
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You're being a deliberate sexual assault apologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 12:58 PM
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Wow, wtf? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 09:37 PM
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How do you know? You don't need to talk to people to observe their behavior. Sure they could be having an inner crisis about something or other, but the chances of them knowing about and subscribing specifically to stuff surrounding PurplePill I'd say are extremely low.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:39 PM
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They're also sexless too now? It sounds like you're just making an extremely specific, very sad hypothetical relationship situation to get upset over.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:20 PM
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Men will say "women just make other women insecure" while jerking off to the countless IG models he follows whose bodies are so heavily edited they barely resemble that of a real human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:17 PM
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So what? Men here are always banging on about how women look like shit past age 30, going on about women "hitting the wall" at 30, and obsessing over sexy 21 year old women with miraculously minimal sexual history (because how dare they have fucked any hot, tall sexy men with large penises), etc, etc, etc.. Young beautiful people primarily fuck other young beautiful people. People at the prime of their youth are more likely to have raging sex drives and less baggage than older, more experienced …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:55 PM
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By the sound of that story it sounds like she regretted the ONS with that guy so much that she felt compelled to state in her bio afterwards that she never wants to make that mistake again. No hook-ups means no hook-ups. It's not a challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:44 PM
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Only fans is no longer allowing nude photos under their site Wait, what? Really? Wow.. That seems like a bit of a bad business move for them surely? I thought the whole point of paying was based on getting access to nudes / porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:30 PM
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The more i dig into, mgtow, fds, trp, exredpill and even purple pill the more i see why traditional marriage will not work in todays society. I honestly think the more time you spend in these places the more likely you are to conclude the worst about men and women. But not every man and woman subscribes to these kind of beliefs, which, let's face it, approach extremist levels at times. Am i missing something here? Go outside, go for a walk, spend some time people-watching. Most people generally …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:22 PM
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women perceive men as being worse than they are? No, as most of them actually are, considering the average man in the US is overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:18 PM
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In my experience, the only people who want and push for this kind of thing are insecure, paranoid and untrusting, and typically are looking for things to be upset over. Inspecting your partners personal stuff just doesn't have a place in healthy relationships imo. It doesn't foster real trust. It just creates a relationship where there's no privacy or confidence, even if it only happens once or twice a year. I'd be especially wary of a man who wanted this kind of system in place to help him deal…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 04:20 PM
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Gonna go ahead with an ETA here: I already knew what the likely answers were. Thanks (/s) for reminding me that single moms are shitty humans that chose that, but single fathers are heroes for raising their own fucking kids. I'm not surprised either. I think it's getting worse here lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:30 AM
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r/rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:42 AM
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How terrible of them. Meanie feminists!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 11:24 AM
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Men here vastly underestimate the sexual appeal of musical talent. A lot of the men busting their asses with weights and all this shit will never become the Chad they're wanting to be, but have potential at fitting other types of male attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:20 AM
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Simply, all you have to do is look at the single men who are getting the “MOST” sex and look at the single men who are getting the least amount of sex in each age bracket from 18+, and boom you have your answer. It is not that hard. I hope you're also looking at the men between those two extremes. Looking only at the top and only at the bottom doesn't seem like a good way to gauge it. Chads aren't the only men getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:55 AM
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People who are below a 3 know this very well, so they don’t even bother chasing Chad and Stacy, and they know they have to go for each other. A lot of the times, they’re contempt with it too. Was that a typo or no? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:42 AM
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There is no way I would ever have fallen in love with a guy that old in my 20s. Let's say for an example a 62 year old man meets a 23 year old women and they organically form a relationship together. Is it a cause for concern at all or something you wouldn't do and why? Even if they get on terrifically and have a perfect relationship, what is their life together actually going to look like? A 62 year old man is not going to have the energy to keep up with a 23 year old and all the things she'll …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:38 AM
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It's pure misogyny. Plain and simple. "You're a hysterical, irrational woman who doesn't understand her own mind, intentions or behaviors. I'm a rational, clever man. I can tell you what you think and feel." It's very tiresome dealing with those kinds of men. The irony is, they usually argue things which will only really harm themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:23 AM
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I've been under the impression men were already living this way in their prime. Sometimes I think this sub vastly overestimates the amount of men who are undesirable enough to not have a wild phase like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:18 AM
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This was a really truthful and articulate response. Thank you. That is absolutely heartbreaking and it seems crystal clear that the way boys are raised needs to change desperately.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:41 PM
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It does. And I'm not going to be arguing with people about that thread in this one cheers. I've heard quite enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:22 PM
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You can have whichever preferences you like. No one is entitled to anyone wanting to be with them. Idk if I think they're on the same level though. For example, I think it's completely reasonable for a woman to expect her partner not to jerk off to porn while he's in a sexual relationship if he has a woman always ready to have sex. I think part of that whole issue comes down to sexual compatability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:24 PM
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So then by your logic, if someone kills a person and gets away with it, they're not a murderer. God help me this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:06 PM
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HKIYSEFOULSY SAKHD KASLBLIBLI (hello! I hope you're well!)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:31 AM
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Why use labels for anything at all? Why do words matter? Why don't we all just go around screaming gibberish at each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:27 AM
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Man that's so incredibly fucked up. I'm so sorry you went through that. This kind of shit is happening way too much still, but it's honestly frightening just how little people seem to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:22 AM
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Maybe because someone still got raped whether they go to the police or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:21 AM
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I'll be very curious to what the responses from men here will be like after my thread about children in Schools assaulting each other and them completely blowing it off. Much more offence was taken about the term "rape culture" being used, than the acts themselves. Some men brought up how "boys gets assaulted by female teachers", but I had a few whose responses amounted to "you females bring it on yourselves". I think the men who brush off men getting raped and assaulted are actually envious and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:06 AM
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I feel sorry for the mods here. They have to delete so much and must be tired of having to tell people "be civil" all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:21 AM
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Musical and artistic talent. Anything that shows a deeper curiosity and fascination about the world (e.g. space, tech, history).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 09:56 AM
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This is so damn true tbf.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:11 AM
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I was going to say, a 23 year old and an 18 year old isn't much of an age gap. The dude is still young. The power dynamic would be nothing like an 18 year old with someone in their late twenties / early 30s. Men have been lusting after young, attractive women forever. Rich/powerful men always had harems. Kings/Emperors usually had a ton of bastards. There's the stereotype of married, aging wealthy man with a hot young mistress. The mistress is almost never an old woman. That escalated quickly. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 09:26 PM
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Oh no. Not the expansion of language to describe frowny-face parts of the human experience! We can't have that now can we? :(
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:59 PM
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Learned a new word today. Exulansis n. - The tendency to give up trying to talk about an experience because people are unable to relate to it - whether through envy, pity, or simple foreignness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 02:50 PM
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Graphic / band t-shirt and jeans is all good! I'm a jeans and t-shirt girl myself, so I tend to go for men who dress similarly to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 02:25 PM
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Because the only form of pressure in existence is the threat of imminent murder!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 02:02 PM
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YES. It feels like everything now is about looking hot,"hot girl summer", posting selfies on social media. It's way too much. It also feels like vanity has stopped being regarded as a character flaw and now is actually celebrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:27 PM
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You make it sound like women who wear revealing clothes are presenting their tits and asses like they're offering around some kind of dessert tray, lol. Women are under intense pressure to self-objectify, even if we absolutely hate it and the "feedback" we get. The male incentive to self-objectify doesn't come from the same place as female self-objectification, so when men do it, it comes across as more vain / showy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:15 PM
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This is exactly my experience as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 09:44 AM
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Exactly the same here! I've always disliked the masculine/alpha thing, and in my 30s that hasn't shifted. I like men who have the strength of character to not have caved in to the pressures of toxic masculinity and are just doing their own thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:36 AM
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It's influence. Of course men and women choose how to dress themselves, we can't pick apart social influence. Even men are socially influenced how to dress and present themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:30 AM
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I feel awful for saying this, but I'm someone who is extremely attracted to long hair on men, and not attracted to bald men. If he lost all of it, yes I'd find him less physically attractive, because one of the attributes that made me so physically attracted was his hair. Even if he were balding with a huge receeding hairline I'd still prefer that over completely bald. I'd still love him if he went bald, but I would definitely find him less physically attractive. But, I'm quite sure he will also…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:24 AM
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Another grownass man up in arms over the term "rape culture" while we're discussing the wide-spread issue of children sexually assaulting each other and girls being regularly harassed for child porn. The fact that you WANT to debate the term so much shows how little you give a shit about what it describes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:09 AM
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You obviously didn't read any of the articles I provided and thus have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. It's glaringly obvious that you read nothing, because your responses are utterly oblivious to the reality of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:03 AM
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We're not talking about women, FFS. We're talking about minors.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 08:29 PM
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Girls posting naked pictures of themselves is considered completely normal. You do realise you're talking about child porn, right? You're really here justifying child pornography and asking what's wrong with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 08:28 PM
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How on Earth do you actually believe that you've just proven rape culture doesn't exist!? You've done nothing of the sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 08:24 PM
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The "it's not as bad as" argument. "We're not as bad as Saudi Arabia, therefore no rape culture here, thank you." Call it whatever you like. We live in a culture where underage girls are being pressured to send nude photos of themselves 11 times a day, being called sexist insults, upskirted and touched inappropriately at School. If you're upset and taking issue with what we're naming this, perhaps you should sit the discussion out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 08:17 PM
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Another adult man defending children pressuring girls to take nude photos of themselves. simple, tell girls to not send nudes and cut contact with them if theyre really so bothered by the request. It isn't "simple", at all, it's flimsy as hell and shows absolutely zero thought. Girls obviously cannot "cut contact" with fellow classmates they're forced to spend every School day with, can they? Just admit that you don't care about children being sexually abused. I'm sick to my stomach of these res…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 08:12 PM
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Perhaps you should write to the various news and media outlets covering this. I'm sure they'll be delighted to hear from you and take your concerns very seriously and won't be seen as at all suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:55 PM
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Kids shouldn't be sexually harassing each other and begging underage girls for child porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:36 PM
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"Because it's on the news means it isn't happening." The links I provided contain direct accounts from teachers, headteachers and pupils.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:20 PM
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What are you more bothered by? Children sexually assaulting each other? Or a phrase used to describe it? No, we're not "inventing another name". Discuss the topic or pack off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:17 PM
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Dude there's middle age women her wanting to discipline teenage boys for proclaimed sexual deviancy. Shit is degeneracy. Shit is disgusting. It really is disgusting. Kids shouldn't be sexually harassing each other and begging underage girls for child porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:14 PM
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Something does need to be done about children sexually abusing each other and harassing underage girls for nudes though, don't you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:12 PM
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imagine how many views this received because you shared it. Terrific. I think more adults deserve to know what is happening in Schools among children and contemplate the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:07 PM
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Oh you think it's girls fault that boys are sexually abusing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:06 PM
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It just seems like you want to take anything wrong boys do and put all of them in the same bag and be like "oh my god that's terrible, men are trash you know, how will it evolve knowing men are trash? How can I make a post just to say men are trash without explicitly having to say men are trash so that I don't get redacted?". Please prove me wrong. Absolutely nothing about this thread is to do with me, my personal opinions, or my feelings either way about boys or men. Stop trying to make this pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 10:33 AM
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These actions are all heavily condemned by society's laws, morals, and culture. That's nice dear. Unfortunately it isn't stopping jack shit, though. Please try to keep on-topic. The topic is: How will the current prevalence of these behaviors shape the dating world in the future?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 10:21 AM
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Rape culture is sharia law, culturally integrated laws that endorse marital rape for instance. Not some boys entering women's bathrooms and asking for nude pics online. The definition of rape culture is "a society or environment whose prevailing social attitudes have the effect of normalizing or trivializing sexual assault and abuse", which is, if you bothered to read the articles linked, what this discussion is pertaining to. I have to conclude your post is just "men are trash" type of FUD post…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 10:04 AM
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you are dehumanizing young boys by doing so. you're injecting ideology so they don't feel like human: emotional reactions to being hurt. Where did I dehumanize anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 09:53 AM
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There is a rape culture in muslim countries not in the western world. Calling unwanted attention rape is not only nefarious but also counterproductive to your cause. We currently live in a culture where girls - minors - are getting bombarded with demands for child porn of themselves from boys, upskirted, called sexist names and touched without their consent. If the term "rape culture" is too bold for your personal sensibilities in reference to the aforementioned actions, then by all means feel f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 09:50 AM
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First of all, rape culture doesn't exist It very clearly does exist. We currently live in a culture where girls - minors - are getting bombarded with demands for child porn of themselves from boys, upskirted, called sexist names and touched without their consent. If the term "rape culture" is too bold for your personal sensibilities in reference to the aforementioned actions of boys, then by all means feel free to call it something less cutting. However, rape culture and it's impact on future re…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 09:46 AM
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What on earth are you talking about? Who said I expect men to behave like angels? If you can't just respond to the discussion and stay on-topic just use the Megathread instead please.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 09:41 AM
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A woman in her 30s has many more expression lines and crow feet than a man in his 30s. And this is much worse if the woman is fair skinned. That doesn't even make any sense. Fair-skinned women who keep out of the sun / use sun-screen generally have amazing skin well into their 30s. It's the "sunworshippers" (men and women alike, with men possibly even being more guilty of neglecting sunscreen) who sit out in the sun to get a deep tan and don't give a shit about skin health who age terribly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 08:55 AM
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Yes. It's an important and highly relevant point. It's an observation on how boys ARE currently interacting with girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 03:22 PM
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Did you read the article? Do you know how little boys are treating girls? So who are all the people raising boys to sexually abuse girls? Normal parents? Clearly "normal" isn't working.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:54 PM
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Is there no middle ground with men? You either raise a rapist, or an incel? Nothing inbetween? Impossible to raise a well-adjusted man who can attract women who isn't a rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:48 PM
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How do we stop boys becoming rapists? It's a huge problem. Something needs to be done about it. Do you really feel it is toxic to not want a society full of boys who sexually abuse girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:38 PM
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I said I'd be more concerned about raising boys not to be rapists than attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:37 PM
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hatred/fear of male sexuality Why are you getting male sexuality confused with rape? I don't hate male sexuality at all. I hate how common the sexual abuse of girls is. Do you think they're one in the same? That would say a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:26 PM
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Not wanting to raise a rapist = raising an incel. Interesting logic. Do you think the only way men can get sex is rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:15 PM
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I'd be much more concerned about ensuring I don't raise a boy who sexually abuses girls than teaching him how to attract them. In fact, I think raising boys not to be hideous little rapists will help his chances of romantic and sexual success if he isn't going around sending dick pics and treating girls like shit on his shoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 11:49 AM
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men just want to deny my experience This sub in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 11:41 AM
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Men telling women what we find attractive is always extremely amusing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 11:32 AM
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People who were raised by abusive parents can grow up to develop a powerful association between abuse and love, and as a result, be primarily attracted to people whose abusive behaviors mimic those of their parents. It's extremely sad that women who were raised abusively get shamed for having "daddy issues", when all shaming should rightfully be directed toward the abusive father who caused the dysfunction in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 11:06 AM
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when I see a whale fatass women shows her big tumbling belly Lmfao you're just as bad as the women you're talking about! Bodyshaming men for being short is bad, yes, but you can't counteract that while spouting utterly hypocritical bs!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 01:25 PM
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For me, knowing that even men over 40 still find 20 year olds the most desirable, I just don't want to push myself through the strain of being with a man while constantly have to live in that knowledge. I've already seen these kinds of insecurities take a toll on my female friends over 40. I'm 34 and it's already tiring enough still bothering with shallow concerns about aging, cellulite, sagging, wrinkling, and how physically attractive I am to my boyfriend. It just takes so much out of you over…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 10:44 AM
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I'm just disputing that supermodels have never been "that thin". It's been a while since I kept up with fashion, but absolutely 2007-era fashion, most models were extremely underweight. Like it's not even up for argument imo. It's probably different now, but many models back then looked like they had a bmi of maybe 15. Severely underweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 10:10 AM
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They're not that thin. They never have been. Um.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 09:19 AM
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The old trends in VS are old-fashioned and outdated now though. Times change. Fashion doesn't stay the same. VS was never marketed towards men in the first place anyway. It's a lingerie company marketed towards women. They aren't "trying to tell men what their preferences should be", lol. It's definitely the epitome of selfishness to be upset that a woman's lingerie company doesn't get your peepee hard anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 09:16 AM
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I totally get that women are capable of sexual assault, rape, abuse, murder, etc, but women are WAY MORE GUILTY than men? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:09 PM
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That'd literally be at least an hour of work, finding and downloading images, deciding on ratings, putting them all into editing software, editing them all together.. I don't have the time to dedicate to this. It's a good point you make though about personality and voice, as they do hugely influence attraction in female-to-male attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:04 PM
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Or it is just a circlejerk for traumatised women? Pretty much, yes. I think so. I actually spent a lot of time on GenderCritical and radfem groups when I was going through the hardest time with PTSD from sexual trauma. Participating in those subs and groups wasn't good for my health at all, and I found myself fostering toxic thoughts about men and transpeople that were honestly just fucked up. FDS and subs like it can really ignore that women can be predatory and abusive. Plenty of people had ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:51 PM
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Tbf I think he looks particularly awful in the photo that was linked of him. He really doesn't exactly look his best there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:17 PM
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Reminds me of this study. Apparently the simpler the fact, the more attractive it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:04 PM
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https://dlr.tooleybucultraleggera.pw/img/801621.jpg The guy on the end of 3 is cute af. As a woman these charts are an absolutely fascinating insight into how men view each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:12 PM
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now the real question could you get those 9s?? Men really want us to worry about if we can get men we're not even into huh? We really don't care if we "can get those 9s!!", lol. A man made the chart. She's right. Women's would look different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:07 PM
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If we all went around screwing animals it technically wouldn't be a drought either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:22 PM
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Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:08 PM
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Ah! The obligatory "if wimmin lowered their standards they can get dicked down anytime by any man!" Dude, we don't want to be dicked down by any old bloke, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:07 PM
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Ironically, I fancied him so much in this movie! Both of them, tbh.. God I'm weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:36 AM
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I'd say possibly most men. But yes, this does change, and can change very drastically, as I get to know them. Exceptions to this are men with long hair, who I can find attractive right away even despite any physical flaws, or even if they also have a bald spot or drastically receeding hairline.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:17 AM
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I'm a bi woman and sexually respond to women exactly the same as you and have done since I was around 11. With men though, it's very different. I'm mostly repulsed physically, and don't feel compelled to glance at "anything" (no body part or feature, unlike how I feel with women). At most, I can see a guy and think "he looks like a nice person", but there's nothing sexual about it. Even if I can form romantic/sexual relationships with men, the attraction I feel toward them is completely differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:29 AM
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Well, women are safer than men because we are “paranoid,” and men tend to willingly put themselves in dangerous situations whether they realize the danger level or not. Women evolved more cautious for a reason (less physical strength, need to be alive to care for kids). ^ This.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 11:51 AM
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If "settling" means being with a man who describes sex as "servicing", most women would absolutely rather be alone. What exactly are we missing out on, here? Because it's not meaningful love or anything worth our time. I'll pick some men seeing me as "selfish" and "personality deficienct" if it means avoiding selfish men who they can treat me like a discardable sex object. Which is worse? A woman having high standards for who she chooses to sleep with or be with? Or a man treating women like liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 11:33 AM
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The first one easily. Height is definitely not more important than facial and body attractiveness, for me at least. I'm 5ft 5, if that matters at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:52 AM
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I put that particular lady on my "Fun to fuck" list... And, she did come back for "servicing" a few more times. But I knew trying to have a relationship with her was of no use. Yeah the reason women have such high standards today is that most of us are actively trying to avoid being treated like this. While on the subject of toddlers, how infantile is it to whinge about the standards of someone while using the word "servicing" to describe being intimate with them? If she was not 100% happy on 10…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:16 AM
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If the men you're aiming to reassure with this post see women and girls the same way you do, then I'm utterly over-joyed they're having trouble! <3 It's fantastic news!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:52 PM
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What was that thread recently about reasons women are putting off having children? This shit right here is the reason I'm not having children. Imagine giving birth to a girl and having men speak about her like this. Like all she is is a walking "supply" of vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:47 PM
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Why do our reasons even really matter to you so much? If women are enjoying the lifestyle they have as childless women and aren't bringing unwanted children into the world despite pressure on them to do so, isn't that a good thing? But also, why not believe women when they state their reasons for not having children? Why can't you just believe what women say about why they don't want to reproduce?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 12:35 PM
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"You want coffee? I have to purchase you a coffee? Okay, so you admit to being a coffee whore." VS "How are you doing today sweetheart? Can't wait for our coffee date later!" One is different to the other. The guy having an existential crisis over if buying me a coffee makes me a whore is a non-issue. We like dating men who see something such as buying us a coffee as a cute expression of interest, not something to have a fit over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:30 PM
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If anyone is crying it's the women Why do you think it has to be one or the other? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:12 PM
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Well done, the professional help IS for him. Stop backtracking. You said this: How many of these women have tried professional advice or help? I'm guessing zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:45 PM
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If a guy needs to use his partner as a fleshlight while he gets off to porn to "save the relationship", shouldn't he be the one seeking professional help? Just admit you believe that women should be responsible for babying useless, porn-addicted men or else they're meanies treating men bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:41 PM
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Abortion is the murder of a baby, and abortion is worse than abandonment. You're entitled to your opinion, but as someone who is pro-choice, I don't share your stance on any of this at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:26 PM
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No. Why on Earth should be government be involved in this? Adults are responsible for forming their own relationships. No one has to use dating apps anyway. The real world is outside and freely accessible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:24 PM
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It sounds like the sole purpose of this sci-fi hypothetical is to make abortion seem more like the heartless murder of a baby in attempt to make women who abort seem just as bad as men who abandon their children. The objective being you feeling like you can let yourself off the hook morally if you impregnate a woman and leave her, because your sci-fi hypothetical fantasy will help you sleep better at night while a woman somewhere in the world is dealing with your child.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:03 AM
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Suppose a woman is uncomfortable with lurid sexual acts, e.g. anal sex (the most common one it appears). In a relationship where porn is banned, the man will pester the women for her to give in to the sex act. I wouldn't want to satify this shitty person. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:38 AM
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How many of these women have tried professional advice or help? I'm guessing zero. Professional help to deal with what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:27 AM
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My question is, at what point does body count become an issue for women? When you keep grotty "sex chronicles" diaries lying around for the person you're in a relationship with to discover. You don't even need to be a religious person to be repulsed by that. It's just creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:04 AM
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So most women wouldn't try to save their relationships? So I can be used as a wank glove while he gets off to porn? I'd rather leave him to his laptop and tissues. Not worth saving.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:51 AM
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Obviously if a man is a completely lousy, crappy lover and a chronic masturbator, it's clearly his girlfriends fault! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:49 AM
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Tbh I think the pandemic and lockdown has impacted most people's social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:05 PM
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Bullshit. Police need to verify the facts which will lead them to ask all kinds of questions. Including questions about your behavior. That's standard. They want to see if your story is consistent so they'll repeat the questions. This isn't victim blaming, it's routine police work. You clearly didn't read any of the links I provided. Your ignorance around rape, rape victims and victim blaming, is entirely willfull, so conversing with you much further is a waste of my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:58 PM
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Not reporting does LET rapists keep raping. That doesn't mean it's your fault it means you could have stopped it but didn't. There's a difference You're still victim blaming. Victim blaming actually occurs even within the very police institutions responsible for helping victims seek justice, which is why your attempted murder victims "still manage to report" and many victims of rape don't report. Women have good reason not to trust the police to help us. Especially considering a woman here was r…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:12 PM
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You are victim blaming. You said "you'd let some other girl get raped" (let meaning to allow, permit), you also minimized the impact of trauma by saying "just so you didn't have to remember what happened", (just meaning simply, merely). Idk where you live where such a law exists, but it is mostly definitely not illegal in the UK for rape victims to not report a rape they experienced. Again. Rape victims aren't responsible for the behavior of rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:38 PM
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You'd let some other girl get raped just so you didn't have to remember what happened? You are victim blaming. It's not the responsibility of victims to stop rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:20 PM
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You don't understand the absolutely colossal impact of trauma if you expect victims all to stroll into their nearest police stations immediately after having been raped. The process can actually be retraumatizing for victims who report.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:00 PM
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Well.. no, not "tough tatty". If so many rapes go unprosecuted, why should rape victims subject themselves to such a pointless thing? For the 1.7% chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 05:43 PM
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How would you feel about it if it was for men just as much? If body positivity included things such as male baldness and shortness. Would this make a difference to how you feel about it? Edit: Lol, why the downvote?! It's just an innocent question... Was it offensive to ask this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:49 PM
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We had a CMV "Body positivity does far more harm than good", but not a broad question of how RPers feel about it. It was actually that thread which got me to think about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:38 PM
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I think its bad because it is very one sided (you never read about “body positivity” for short men etc). How would you feel about it if it included male body image problems (like shortness, baldness, penis size, etc) just as much as womens? Would the inclusion of men's issues change how you feel about it at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:59 PM
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Why do we do have to do the same with women? I think it's a backlash against the way beauty ideals have been rammed down our throats. A lot of women got really tired of being fed images of underweight models with no cellulite, perfect skin and faces like we're meant to live up to that forever and not age. To paraphrase Camille Paglia, beauty is an eternal value; It’s not cynical proposition created by men in an office on Madison Ave. We should cherish it. Lol, I don't think anyone needs encourag…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:37 PM
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I know you mean well but this really isn't a good thing to say to rape victims at all. Here in England, only 1.7% of reported rapes get prosecuted. Reporting rape is typically retraumatizing for the victim, all for no justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:18 PM
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We are speaking about emotional manipulation, not emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:29 PM
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Men are not simple at all. Actually, during my search to show you just how much content there exists on men being manipulative.... (of which here are some results you might find interesting: https://www.bolde.com/spot-manipulative-guy-destroys/ https://www.amazon.co.uk/Manipulative-Man-Identify-Behavior-Counter/dp/1593376235 ) ...I found this study, claiming that men are more likely to engage in emotional manipulation than women: https://isiarticles.com/bundles/Article/pre/pdf/167642.pdf There h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:40 PM
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As I said in another comment there's no mystique with men. This is completely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:01 PM
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What else can women look for in men? Morality? Goodness? Virtue? Most people who fall in love believe they are with someone who is good, moral and virtuous, only to - once the love goggles have worn off - be confronted with the reality that their partner is flawed, imperfect, and multi-dimensional. At a certain point in your life you realise life isn't so black and white. Some of the most manipulative abusers can present as excellent pillars of their community at first, but most people generally…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 12:59 PM
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"Look at what he does, not what he says" could not be more true when reading some of the comments attemping to prove this false. Many RP men repeatedly bang on about "young women need to go for NicE GuYs and not cling onto their cock carousel!" Their ideas are ripped straight out of an 80s romantic high school drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:21 PM
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Yet their actions demonstrate otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:19 PM
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Would it seem odd to you for a man over 28 to seek out men in their early twenties as friends? Or would that also seem a little strange given the rather large leap in maturity which occurs between those ages? What would his motive be? When you look at it this way, it seems rather obvious that such a man desires a trinket, rather than an intellectual equal to navigate the complexities of life with, which yes, is creepy, and it speaks to his level of emotional maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:00 PM
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I have always approached men I'm personally interested in, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:56 PM
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OP wasn't saying you have to want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:14 AM
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And why do cam girls and OF girls seem to date guys that are ........... .... ... . "Inexperienced" if I may ask My boyfriend is 10 years older than me and very experienced, so I'm probably not the best person to ask, lol. I have no idea honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:53 PM
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Women should worry about their fellow female peers who consume rape erotica like 50 shades first... Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:27 PM
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Because it gave him a frowny face.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:20 PM
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You, like all women who think like you, are fucking weirdos. We're fucking traumatized. I've been raped. And yes, I've been in therapy. Speaking of which, I think you should give it a whirl it for this utterly psychopathic "I must nag and insult women who fear rape" complex you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:54 PM
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Lmfao and I haven't even started arguing with anyone in this thread yet! This thread is going to be a trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:49 PM
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Those two things aren't the same. This is about men who negatively judge sex workers while still enjoying and consuming their content, making them seem hypocritical. Sex workers who are paid to have sex with men they find repulsive are not obliged to find their clients personally attractive, or want to date them, and them saying so does not make them hypocrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:46 PM
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THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS THREAD! Incredibly relevant to some of the recent discussions on this sub and I too am interested in the responses this will get. “Omg my pool of ‘wife material’ dwindles with each click of ‘next page’ but I’ll never give porn up!!! passes out in jizz coma on page 384 of PornHub as he whispers “what a bunch of whores... I’m an upstanding man” to himself” How conflicting for them. Omfg I love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:42 PM
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Doesn't take much power to speak the English language. You seem like an extremely manipulative person. You told me what I think, and then when I brought you up on it, minimized it. You can do whatever you want, just like I can be worried about God flooding the earth and live in terror over that every day. And the difference between my fears and yours, is that yours are irrational, and mine are based in reality. All this, because a woman said she feared rape... I wonder what your problem is with …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:22 PM
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Very confused as to why you're assuming you have the power to tell me what I worry about. How odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:10 PM
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I'm not denying that it's wrong or bad to do that. It's just utterly pathetic to contextualize that rant alongside "men are over-corrected now" while men are still raping women every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:25 PM
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Are you as outraged about men actually raping women, as you are about a man being called "rapey"? I think society should do more to stop men being actual rapists, but we've not even got that bloody far.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:08 PM
1

That genuinely made me feel better. I hope you are right. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:35 PM
1

Damn.. This hit me. Fair point. This is why I sometimes deeply loathe being a woman. Honestly, I can't even begin to imagine what living like that feels like. Must be nice. I hope you do retire early and get to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:22 PM
1

Tbf I think it's sad that the effort of trying to look your best is so tightly linked with how much or how little you want to "chase pussy".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:13 PM
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You should tell that to OP. It might distract him for a second from his unrelenting terror of women rejecting him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:10 PM
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66% of women are overweight. But it seems apparent that even overweight women are still much more likely to put effort into their looks with flattering outfits, etc. I think women actually groom more in effort to try to actually compensate for being fat; whereas fat men seem more likely to just let themselves go completely. A good example highlighting this imbalance between men and women, would be the huge popularity of media like this. It's a guide including 5 steps on how women carrying most o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:04 PM
1

Your OP is 80 percent of men don't take care of their appearance. They're right about that though. Like is that even debatable?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:54 PM
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I think it's this kind of "all or nothing" thinking that links in with what OP was talking about... It's as though men think unless they look like Brad Pitt, there's no point in even trying to work with what you have, so they don't bother to put any effort into their looks at all and are so much less desirable for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:48 PM
1

This is the most sane thing I've seen on this sub in a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:47 PM
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You're describing things anyone - male or female - would be attracted to. and shelving it under "AWALT" like it proves anything. Everyone wants affection, is "comforted by money", (lol), and desires physically attractive people. I don't know if this post is the missing puzzle piece of the mystery you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:43 PM
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So you're saying you've only ever fallen in love with extremely stereotypically attractive people then? lol. One of the first boys I ever fell absolutely head over heels in love with had two false teeth and acne.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:24 PM
2

It's as strange as straight men being ass men.. Why is that strange?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:21 PM
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You want the world to change to force a woman to be with you, so you don't maybe get used. But if you don't care about the male problem of not wanting to become a woman's financial backup plan don't expect for a second that men should care about women being pumped and dumped. I'm a woman. I have to worry about rape, domestic violence, assault.. I don't have time to cry over your limp-wristed obsession with being a fucking back-up plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:51 PM
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The point of my response was an observation I made. Your way of thinking does seem old-fashioned to me. Sure it's off-putting to some, but purely in my own personal experience, it's nowhere near the kind of death sentence you're making it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:43 PM
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Can I ask how long they have been married for? 5 years. The relationship itself is longer, though I'm not sure exactly when they met. They're in their twenties. The other, I'm not sure. That just proves my point even more wether you realised it or not...Im also betting my chances that your man was the one that boosted your online career/manage the money to. Can I ask if that is true? Not sure how it proves your point at all, but your assumption is false. I met him after I ended my sex work. He k…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:33 PM
4

How dare she have a sexual history with tall men. The audacity!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:25 PM
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Pumping and dumping a woman = Acceptable. Woman with you because she trusts you not to pump and dump her = UNACCEPTABLE. I WILL NOT BE A BACK-UP PLAN.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:19 PM
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The only solution I can think of is enforcing strong gender roles. Men and women both pair up when young and get married. The guy doesn't go though his youth sexless and the women doesn't go have casual sex with multiple guys. This is so ridiculous. "MAKE IT SO THAT WOMEN ARE FORCED TO BE WITH ME." No wonder you're single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:12 PM
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Wtf are less physically attractive, nerdy, quiet guys supposed to do. Oh, okay, this is about you..... Geez I don't know. Maybe get really good at guitar? Women dig guitarists.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:11 PM
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Idk about you, but I got a feeling, (going out on a limb here), that he doesn't want to marry a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:07 PM
2

As a former sex worker, I feel like your rant is kind of old-fashioned. Online sex work is incredibly normalized and accepted these days. I know at least 2 women who have an OF and are married and open about their work. I'm a former camgirl and am in a long-term relationship with a man I run a business with. It seems in recent times as though men are really wising up to the fact that all the women in all the porn they consume has to come from somewhere, so may as well treat the women in it like …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:01 PM
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With porn, strip clubs, and phone sex operators, more men are involved in the business of the woman. These men despise a woman owning her own sexual agency in a more independent fashion. A man pimping a woman is okay. But a woman pimping herself is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:52 PM
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Who is "they"? Are you talking about a specific woman here? Or is this woman hypothetical?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:42 PM
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Why do women demand equality but CHOOSE men who have higher net worth than them? Why do women virtue signal about equality but deliberately prefer men who make more money than them? Because - due to the very inequality you're referring to - we make less. Are we really supposed to deal with inequality and also not be attracted to people who have more than us? It's like you're saying, "if you really want equality, just be content with how much less you have."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:41 PM
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Whats stopping them from pursuing though? What makes you think they aren't pursuing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:33 PM
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It's so crazy that you're really here, living your life in a world where you know men prey on young women in a predatory fashion to use them for sex, and your biggest concern about women being attracted to younger men is "What if they're lying?! How immature of them! And also, they might not be lying! :O" It's like you're going out of your way to see women as though we're men - fixating on younger partners - and judging women for far, far less transgressions than the men are doing to young women…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:22 PM
1

He doesn't seem to impact me as intensely as the guys who do remember I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:47 PM
0

C'mon man.. are snakes not mega cool and interesting?! I know you're really upset and all but you have to admit...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:26 PM
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Jeremy Meeks I have to Google this guy every time men bring him up. And it is only men I ever see bring him up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:23 PM
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Men prattle on here constantly about how women must provide beauty, youth, pussy on tap, all this shallow and temporary bullshit, so we're supposed to give eternal youth and beauty while expecting nothing in return? Get out!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:21 PM
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Reddit? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:30 PM
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I've never had an issue attracting men who more or less fit the standards she's talking about. I don't think she's being unreasonable at all. It's almost like men are saying, "Her standards are unreasonable because so many of us have criminal records, shitty values, no inspirations, are financially unstable, uncaring, insensitive, hate animals..." A lot of these things are really the bog standard of how to be a decent, mature adult. Maybe it says something about the people who are saying these s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:46 PM
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I think it's similar to how it manifests in women: Being genuinely comfortable with yourself. Comfortable enough to communicate emotions, sensitivity, humor. Lack of insecurity. Secure enough in oneself to compliment other people and allow people close. Insecurity in men can result in aggression and the need to prove himself "a man", when it typically just comes across as him being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 11:31 AM
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There is no such list. If this were "What a woman has to do to STOP men being attracted to her", now that would warrant a list.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:37 AM
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It's fun how irate you're getting just putting your foot (or should I perhaps say: your own dildo?) further into your own mouth with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 04:24 PM
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Guys have their own dildos I didn't know guys had their own dildo collection. The more you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 04:01 PM
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When a woman is TRULY into you, she'll change her personality, kick up most of her ideas about "female empowerment" . This sounds more like symptoms of some kind of mental disorder rather than anything else. Certainly not "love". Also, definitely don't expect women who behave like this to stay as perpetually fawning dependents.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 03:47 PM
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That's a real shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 03:21 PM
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If I need to relearn how to fish every time I go fishing then I’m going to take up birdwatching or something else. Was this meant to be an analogy for opting to go for men instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:09 PM
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It's so depressing if you're up for sex whenever he wishes, and ....he chooses porn and his hand. :/ Not gonna lie, that shit hurts so much. Pretty impossible not to feel threatened and competitive in those cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 08:50 AM
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It's really shitty though if you're with a man and he prefers porn over having sex with you. I was with a guy like this. He ended up coming out as asexual, he preferred his fetish porn over actual sex so much. It messed me up pretty bad tbh. If you're a woman with a high sex drive and you feel like you genuinely have a lot to give a man, you can definitely feel like you're competing with porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 08:47 AM
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Why would a man get with a shorter, less educated, less rich, less pretty woman, if she isn't even willing to "compensate" by being the best possible partner she could be? Why would any man be with a woman that not only is inferior to him on the socioeconomic ladder, but also doesn't want to make herself useful? Why would a man fall in love with a woman he sees as being so undeserving and so deeply beneath him in the first place? But other than that, this completely ignores what it's like to fal…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:47 PM
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The prospect of marrying a man who is upset about my lack of youth / aging, upset I've had sexual partners in the past, and compares me to household furniture is already non-marriagable to me and I have absolutely no desire to prove my worth to him. There's more to a person, male or female, than their age or contents of their sexual history. Individual compatability is much more crucial.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:42 AM
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Girls on OF? Not weird at all. It's their job. It's also a psychological way to advertise and encourage more men to do the same. If you see a shop and it's full of people, for example, chances are it'll peak your curiosity and you'll want to see what the fuss is about. The same really applies to online sex work, it's just done in a different way. Some online sex workers also have "tiers" of fans depending on how much they've paid, and some perhaps more competitive men are happy to pay more to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:37 AM
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Silly me for not quoting an entire feminist propaganda instruction manual making my comment unreadable for anyone with a healthy attention span. Ah, right, you don't know what toxic masculinity is because you've decided to generalize all of men together to suit a narrative that makes all men victims of Meanie Bad Feminists. Gotcha. Keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:14 AM
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Any person who tries to argue that exclusively men are SOCIALLY EXPECTED to beat their wives and kids and hate gays is a dishonest piece of shit I don't think you know what toxic masculinity is. When people refer to it, they aren't generally just referring to wife / child-beating and homophobia. It can include those things, but it's much broader than that. They're speaking about men bullying each other for "being pussies" for speaking about mental healh, men encouraging each other to be misogyni…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 10:27 AM
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It's pretty common in autistic people. At least enough that I've had numerous discussions with other autistic people about this very thing! I had an autistic ex who didn't only not understand the point of these "love lies", but actively disliked them the same as any other form of dishonesty. Whether you're autistic or not, I just wanted to say you're definitely not alone in how you think and feel this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:17 PM
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I had to leave the sex work industry because the degradation and outright abuse became too severe. It was horrendous. I was highly successful and was making a lot of money so it was so hard for me to leave, but honestly, speaking from experience, the points people make about the sex industry being rife with abuse is unfortunately 100% true. Too many men want to hurt women or do all kinds of painful, fucked up or illegal shit to us, especially if they think they can treat you that way because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 06:43 PM
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In this case, I think it is, yeah. I mean, I'm saying I get that impression from your responses. People (typically non-autistic, but it can apply to autistic people too) can lie frequently about things like this, to innocently communicate the intensity of their love and desire for the person they're with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 05:49 PM
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I'm not asking this to be mean, (I'm autistic too), but are you autistic by any chance? Just I'm reading this thread and this is one of those interpersonal relationship complexities that autistic people can have a really hard time picking up on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 05:19 PM
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Men seem to body-shame women they find very sexually undesirable, women tend to body-shame women due to feelings of competition, jealousy, and notions of "modesty" to disguise the former 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 10:45 AM
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Dude it's Freud though... Very long since discredited now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 07:04 PM
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Oh wow cool sounds like a totally healthy family.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 06:44 PM
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Why do you refer to your children as "editions" and "latest version" like they're your merch?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 05:13 PM
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Imagine being the offspring of this dude and seeing he'd posted this on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 05:11 PM
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I’m pretty fit and I like physically demanding sports but I can sit at the bar and have a couple beers without whining about muh physique if necessary. The people who make their whole lives about some aesthetic competition aren’t very appealing on the whole. I completely agree. I feel also like there's a difference between being fit and healthy, and having the kind of physique that requires very significant effort to maintain. And certain styles of more extreme male physique can definitely veer …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 01:53 PM
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With that said, a man who's eating raw broccoli, boiled chicken and working out 3 hours a day isn't accepting you sitting around on Instagram all day getting fat. As a fit woman with a bmi of 19 who isn't into men who work out 3 times a day, this isn't it at all. There's a difference between fitness / health, and working out 3 hours every single day. I know I'll get a bunch of men attempt to tell me that I'm wrong about my own opinion, but nonetheless: In my experience, men who work out that muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:18 AM
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Lmfao. Oh bless you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:29 PM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:26 PM
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Is OP shitting on women for being weaker than men? Lol. Women generally DO find tall strong men more attractive than short men. Facts don't care about your feelings any more than if this were me whining about not being as strong a short man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:46 PM
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Women shitting on short men =/= Women stating that they find strong, tall men being highly sexually desirable in part for the reason OP is citing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:16 AM
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This makes me think of Christian Bale in The Machinist. Imagine if it were a woman who had changed her body weight and shape as much as him. There would be so much more attention and concern given. It's about time more attention was put on the pressures put on male actors this way - it's absolutely no more healthy than the pressure female actresses are put under.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:27 AM
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I respect all men (and women) the same way regardless of their height. The question was referring to if women underestimate the strength of short men. My answer was: We don't, and this is exactly why we mostly prefer being with tall, strong men (who are stronger than short, small men and therefore more likely to intimidate smaller men).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 08:24 AM
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Short answer: High quality genetics that children are likely to inherit and benefit from. Children can inherit height and a mesomorph body type which gains muscle easily from a father with those traits. This is generally much more desirable to women than a short, scrawny man with a gun or knife collection. If you want my own personal opinion on this, when I think of men who own guns and knives, I think of sickly, unhealthy men with a complex and possibly a criminal record / background. Those thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 03:45 PM
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See? Again, you still don't care about other men.. Keep just putting your focus on feminists though, as I'm sure one day they'll really give it up and start suddenly devoting all their time and energy onto men instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 03:08 PM
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That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and sounds very American-centric. Side-note that walking around carrying guns and knives is illegal in my country. Women are not attracted to that at all here, (perhaps it is different where you are from). A tall man in amazing shape is desired by women worldwide for the same reason: biologically it signals that this is a powerful mate who can protect us. Being a scrawny little man carrying a gun? Very different image.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 03:04 PM
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Men are doing little to nothing to address the legitimate grievances of men. As you can see from the comments here. By and large, men generally still seem to have much more energy to invest in ranting about feminists and the "woke" crowd, than caring about one another and exhibiting compassion toward each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 01:52 PM
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Why do you think women desire tall, strong men so much? A big, strong man would easily overpower a short, scrawny, little man. We feel protected, and the feeling of being protected by a strong man is extremely sexy to women for this exact reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 01:44 PM
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Thank you so, so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 10:42 AM
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I think it is necessary to teach boys not to cry because the truth is as you get older, crying doesn’t solve anything and instead, it makes you look weak and pathetic in front of your friends, families, co workers, girlfriends, and wives. If your entire concept and opinion of crying is limited to how it'll be seen and percieved by people around you, you have pretty low emotional intelligence. Crying actually serves a function in terms of healthy emotional release by releasing oxytocin and endorp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 06:38 AM
1

Bit of a sweeping statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 08:34 AM
1

Okay, it's definitely not like this in the UK. Not learning to drive a car AT ALL is completely accepted here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:52 PM
1

You genuinely come across as a sexually frustrated closeted homosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:29 PM
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Tldr post wall women can say "tee hee I was pretty wild back in my day, but now I've found my calling [knitting/volunteering/singing]" All unsuccessful post wall men can say is "I was a fucking loser and failure at dating, and I'm still single" Lmfao that was absolutely brutal and I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:05 PM
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If you can't change a tie you're not a fully functional adult regardless of gender. This seems very American-centric.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:03 PM
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Average Men today already are far more attractive in absolute terms than 200 years ago. Most men have access to dental care, don’t have growth defects due to malnutrition, and are at least literate enough to string together some coherent thoughts. Average men today are also far fatter and more sedentary, which goes quite some way in making someone unattractive imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 05:38 PM
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when men say they have it harder overall, it is the objective truth No it's not though, is it? It's only "harder" for men because they're worried about being mocked, made fun of, turned down, or rejected. It's objectively harder for women because our worst case scenario is violence, rape, murder, assault, stalking. Infinitely harder and much more devestating risk. Sure, it can happen to men too, but largely, men are bitter because they can't put their cock into a vagina as soon as they'd like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 01:17 PM
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Kindness and respect are not "sexy". Someone merely being kind and respectful to me does not arouse me sexually, and I've never pretended those traits have such a seductive effect on me. Being treated with respect is the bare minimum I'd expect of anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 11:16 AM
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Yes. Men have followed me home, kerb-crawled me in their cars, and aggressively persisted after I rejected them. All of these were failed cold approaches. At worst, my first boyfriend threatened to kill himself if I left him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:27 PM
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Yes, and in response to an attack. Doesn't only have to be physical either. "Talk shit, get hit" is a motto for a reason Holy shit you are utterly unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:14 PM
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Yeah the women who choose to purchase pricier pink shit are not the same women who complain about pink tax and the patriarchy. You're doing that thing where you're talking about 2 different people and acting like they're the same person so you can whinge about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:54 PM
1

Overwhelming preference for men with long hair here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 07:41 AM
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Okie doke, best leave the dishes to pile up and leave cum all over your sheets then, fuck it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:16 PM
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Correlation =/= Causation. Are you absolutely sure that there wasn't possibly something else going wrong in the relationship other than you *checks notes* doing the dishes and changing the sheets?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:03 PM
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Women don't get aroused by a man doing basic house chores, no, but a man who refuses to do basic house chores is basically just a large child. Pathetic, bratty and undesirable. "I refuse to perform basic household chores because it doesn't give make pussy wet" is bordering on mental illness territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:59 PM
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What kind of women do you know who can love a man so pathetic and useless that he can't even wash a dish? None of my female friends or aquaintances would be with a man like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:48 PM
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That's funny because what I'd really like is to live in a world where children aren't sexualized.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 03:21 PM
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Oh, I'm terribly sorry! Do you want a pat on the back for gawping at children?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 03:11 PM
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11 - 14 year olds are CHILDREN not "women" ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 02:55 PM
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Around 10 years old. It frightens me how many other women experienced sexual attention from men when they were so young too. It makes me think, if so many men have been overt about their interest in children, then how many men secretly sexualize children?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 01:02 PM
0

Wtf is an AMEX black card?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 03:48 PM
1

I have actually heard from many sources that most women find the male body to be ugly and less attractive then the female body. Is that true? For me, definitely yes. I find female bodies much more sexually appealing than mens. I'd go as far as to say I don't find male bodies sexually appealing or arousing at all really. At least, certainly not in isolation, without the context of his personality - I have to be attracted to the man for reasons other than just his body to want to have sex with him…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 11:57 AM
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What the actual...?? This was a trip to read. on top of that average woman starts developing PCOS, starts having body hair or facial hair after 30...break wind as often as men while sleeping.,burp..their voice becomes like that of teenage men.. What are you on?!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 12:08 PM
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Grandma for example. Objectively she is completely worthless. Her body is deteriorating to the point where none of her five senses work properly. She never got educated either (not that that would help given the education people had back in the day). She can't do anything and she doesn't know anything. But I still love her. Why? Because of the memories of what how she devoted herself to raising me when I was young. Every time I visit her, reality seemingly doesn't matter. In reality she is a wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 11:47 AM
2

This reminds me what a shithole Facebook is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 05:39 PM
1

What has that got to do with my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 04:01 PM
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I think the sexualization and beauty standards of women at some point spread so much, and became so intense, that we're at a point now where it's just kind of accepted and has integrated fully into our culture that women don't really hate on "hotter" women much anymore. Our culture has become so saturated with extremely perfect looking, unrealistic women, that if less attractive women were to be expending energy on hating more attractive women nowdays, they wouldn't have any energy to do anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 12:17 PM
3

Definitely this. Especially on reddit. I've definitely noticed a surprising amount of man-to-man venom on "before and after" / body transformation subreddits, especially if the man is posing in a way which could be seen as self-sexualizing. It kind of intrigues me just because women self-sexualizing is so common and pretty much accepted, but when a man self-sexualizes it seems to really put some mens backs up in a way I don't often really see from women-to-women at all anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 12:12 PM
5

^ The truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 11:55 AM
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Why are you talking about this like the average American man is not also overweight and women don't also have preferences for healthy, fit males?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 09:22 AM
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Her argument seems to be that you're always a male fantasy, even if you're trying to not be a male fantasy. Or, regardless of your effort, you're a male fantasy. Former fetish model here. What Atwood said is completely true. It's extremely popular for fetish models to perform various "mundane" chores and things as though there were no camera / male viewer were present. Ime, requests varied from performing activities such as hoovering; scratching my nose while reading a book; yawning; hiccupping;…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 09:06 AM
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Ahh you posted the Atwood quote! I absolutely love that quote. Absolutely spot-on!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 08:42 AM
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For women, they can be horny as fuck for a few days and then be repulsed by the thought of sex for a few weeks. This latent period is when they are pissed off that men still want to fuck them. Until they are horny again, then they're pissed off that men aren't 'objectifying' them so they go put on a bikini to get men all revved up again. Lol, I read some ridiculous things on this subreddit, but this is particularly insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 08:40 AM
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This is exactly the reaction women want. It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 08:38 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 08:36 AM
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Well that's obviously because they're having too many sexual relations with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 10:04 PM
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"d e e p l y . d e c a d e n t . c u l t u r e" I love it! This is the future baby. Femininity is a social construct. Women are not born hair-flicking, heel-wearing, housecare-obsessed beings. I think it's brilliant to see so many young women experimenting with their identities so much nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 01:08 PM
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I see general "serial monogamy" continuing for a long time in countries where people have choice. Many of us fall in love, we split up, we fall in love again. Some of us "mate for life". Some people are polyamorous. Everyone's different. I will say though that I see a lot of openly polyamorous people struggling HARD with jealousy issues. Tbh I think sometimes these relationships are actually just one person wanting a monogamous relationship, and the other person wanting to fuck other people with…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 09:14 AM
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Elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 07:59 AM
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Weird outsider is the only man on that list I find even remotely physically attractive. And it's still a stretch. They all kind of look the same to me, though I suppose that was the point of this in the first place. Men vastly, vastly overstate how much women are attracted to that kind of "alpha" look. Either that, or I really am genuinely "not like other girls".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:40 PM
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I'm like at 36/29/38 Wowza! Yeah you have nothing to worry about with those stats!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:36 PM
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game and approach are the heart of the redpill How would learning "game" help autistic incels secure the popular NT woman of their dreams? Do you think it'd work? also, AWALT. autistic women want attractive men too Autistic couples exist. And autistic men can be attractive too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 02:09 PM
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He had a high status life. You're defining "status" in terms of whether or not someone wants to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 01:52 PM
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What status? He was the son of an incredibly successful, award-winning British photographer and filmmaker who directed The Hunger Games.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 01:39 PM
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Okay we have no insight as to the beliefs of Stephen McDaniel either way, however, he was undoubtedly an incel, reeking of autism, and obsessed with an extremely popular, outgoing, neurotypical woman he could never hope to be with. Regarding Elliot Rodgers: he spoke in manosphere terms and was hopelessly fixated with "alpha/beta". He was confused af because he saw himself as an "alpha" but was baffled that women weren't approaching him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 01:34 PM
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Elliot Rodgers had looks, money and status. By Red Pill standards he should have absolutely drowning in pussy whether or not he could spell the word "game" or learn to say "hello" to a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 01:23 PM
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the dog guy is alright, all hail the dog guy Beware.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:47 PM
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Spoken like a true woman-hater.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:25 PM
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And it's your right to decide you'd rather not. I'm not disagreeing with you here really. Harrowing, horrifying shit happens every day to men, women, and children alike, every single day. Plenty of women also decide they're done with men and would rather the company of cats. And the thing about feminists - even feminists can't agree about everything, and it's true that some of the most woman-hating AND men-hating shit I've hear has come from feminists. You are totally right: the law needs to cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 03:32 PM
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I guess, at which point do you get so far into this "women complain about stupid shit while men have it harder" thing, but then go so far down this route that you're essentially now complaining about the exact same kinds of things women have endured for centuries (in this case: being portrayed in media in ways which denigrate or make fun of us, and minimize the damage from crimes against us, such as rape, by just going on about women lying)? Rape is terrible. Lying about rape is terrible. Men ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:55 AM
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I'm sorry. I don't own / watch TV, and I'm in the UK so no CNN. I don't watch sitcoms or trashy panel shows. I'm out of the loop here I guess, but everything you described sounds like an utter shitshow and I'm glad I don't engage with mainstream TV stuff. The metoo movement was / is an incredibly important movement though, and I don't see the issue with that whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 11:49 PM
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Feminism is varied af and now has absolutely no "one" way of seeing men, or women. Certainly I can agree that anti-male is a thing you can see in feminism though. I'm not going to argue with you there. Radical Feminism was toxic for me for this reason actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 07:32 PM
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Modern feminism teaches women, either overtly or covertly, that all men (or just "men as a class") are fucked up, predatory rapists either actively or - as a baseline -potentially. All men are INHERENTLY rapists, and wish to rape, torture and kill women and girls. That is what the fuck they say. I see many RP men here saying that men are these things too. There are men here who - very openly and loudly - have a "warrior" complex whereby they glamourize fighting and raping / taking possession of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 07:20 PM
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Some women like on FDS fucking haaaate when men don't wanna spend tons of money on them. They think that a restaurant is a good idea for a first date. Like... Wtf??? What is that entitlement??? People like that sound like they were spoiled as children or something? Never been told "no". Probably incapable of appreciation the value of hard work that went into making the money in the first place too. I wouldn't want to be with someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 01:22 PM
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So what lol? You asked. You got your answer babe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 02:54 PM
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why do they care so much about looks when compared to men. Man have nowhere near approaching the same amount of pressure to look beautiful as women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 06:50 AM
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There's a huge difference between putting ALL of your worth as a human being into your looks and also projecting that onto men, and being aware that your looks play a role in how society views you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 03:22 PM
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Jesus christ, again: No one said it's all the fault of men! It isn't the fault of women specifically, either. You aren't taking this information in properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 09:13 AM
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Oh dear. You need to read more. There are countless studies and books dedicated entirely to the subject of cultural pressures on women to be beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 09:08 AM
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states that its an outside influence that lied and forced this idea in her head, removing any self from the equation. We ARE heavily influenced by Western culture which dictates that we should be beautiful though. You're still operating under the false idea that she's blaming men in some way. We are culturally pressured into this from birth. Boys are raised with cartoons and media and advertising that tells them they can be astronauts, heroes, adventurers, etc. Girls are raised with cartoons, me…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 08:48 AM
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She isn't putting any blame onto men. She stated the fact that we are told from birth that we are supposed to be attractive to men. And she's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 08:35 AM
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I bet you don't give men this type of bullshit for all the shit they do to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 08:29 AM
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My theory is that they do all this because they expect men to be extremely good looking, and project that men wanted the same as well That's some crazy mental gymnastics. Men are always going on about beautiful women. People generally prize beautiful women, treat beautiful women better and warm to them more. Girls are raised with an entire culture which brainwashes us into understanding that we must be beautiful, and that a great deal of our personal worth is dependent on our appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 08:25 AM
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Happy cake day!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 09:21 PM
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No way. Absolutely not, and I don't know how someone could even really come to that conclusion realistically. It still isn't a human being no matter how realistic it looks and acts. You'd be operating under that knowledge the entire time and I don't know how you wouldn't be able to forget that. Essentially, you'd really just be communicating with yourself. you can fuck it, shit on it I imagine specific men buying them for exactly this sort of purpose. Mentally derranged men, misogynists, incels,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 04:55 PM
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Maybe to other women, not to other men. Another man with black and white thinking yammering to me about their feels on fat women? Jesus. Men shower more than women, so how you can argue that women have better hygiene or smell better is bewildering. No one even claimed that women "smell better", what the fuck are you talking about? Men do have worse hygiene than women. Countless studies back this up. Stop lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 09:52 AM
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women have innately disgusting intimate areas Sounds like you're just naturally repulsed by women and prefer men tbh. Why would anyone do that? lol. Because you're on a discussion forum and not just yammering away blindly at yourself? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 09:37 AM
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I've heard / read a lot of people say that they'd die for their loved ones. I don't think I've ever heard / read anyone say they want someone they love to die for them. And I mean, yeah.. "I want you to die for me" sounds pretty fucking bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 01:10 PM
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Yes I'd still be interested. I'll likely go for a facelift or some form of surgery as I really start to age. If he wanted it and it made him feel better about himself, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 12:26 AM
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I mean, reality is, millions of women are with men right now, where if they only knew what their man has done in the past, or vice versa, they would leave them quickly. Like if my ex-bro-in laws current wife only knew the fucked up things he did to my sister for years, I doubt she'd be with him unless she is a really sick individual herself. Are you referring to consensual / non-consensual sex acts when you refer to "fucked up stuff" men have done here? Because idk about other women here, but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 10:22 PM
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I told her that “mansplaining” doesn’t exist Why make this thread asking people if it exists if you already think it doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 05:29 PM
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Makes me think of Bert and Ernie from Sesame Street.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:28 PM
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How would a woman feel about an ugly guy wearing makeup, a balding guy wearing a hairpiece, a short guy wearing lifts etc? The more I listen to women, the more it seems like they just want a specimen of a man who looks amazing straight out of bed. This is a total strawman. No women are saying any of that stuff. Have you actually read the resposnes from women here? It's a huge deal if a man is healthy and has the ability to wash his damn face every morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 11:36 AM
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You're still engaging in "all or nothing" thinking and totally missing the point. No one is saying that fat women look like gorgeous perfect glamour models. Literally just that a fat women who puts effort into her appearance looks better than one who does not. A fat woman who maintains healthy long hair; maintains good skin; selects nice outfits; maintains good hygiene; smells good; knows which makeup compliments her face, looks better (no one is saying looks like a perfect angel) than a fat wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:20 AM
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Okay cool but more fat women look more attractive than they otherwise would for putting effort into their appearance, than do the countless fat men who mostly look like vomit and don't try at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:52 AM
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I think this kind of "all or nothing" thinking is why so many fat men look like hell. There's a difference between being fat and gross looking, and being fat and looking like you try.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:26 AM
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I think this is complete bullshit. You're happy to be honest about how men can be lying, manipulative and deceitful: Men will lie for sex, they will fake a relationship, they will tell women what they want to hear, they will invent a new persona, there is no limit to what a man is capable of when he indulges his darker nature. And then blame women for "not vetting" / basically just being dumb, shallow bitches despite all this crap men do to lie and manipulate us in the first place: I chatted wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:25 AM
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True, though I do see way more overweight women who very clearly put a lot of effort into their hair, makeup and clothing choices than overweight men who put any effort into looking good.. at all. Overweight men tend more to look like they've just given up completely and totally. They more often than not look like they put zero effort into their hair, clothes, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:13 PM
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This does not fit my narrative so let's pretend it doesn't exist at all. Fixed it for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:04 PM
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So man men literally murder their wives for their life insurance. You need to watch more That Chapter videos man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 03:52 PM
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This is a space to which many different people contribute. No one persons view typically changes back and forth every day. If you take onboard every single different thing every single different person says, then you will be confused. Everyone isn't saying something completely different every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 03:41 PM
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I didn't know that confidence / charm and taking care of your health, hygiene and appearance were mutually exclusive? Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:26 PM
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I'd be offended if he took me to McDonalds, fullstop. I'd rather he take me to some little cafe with food just as cheap or something. McDonalds is a festering shithole. To answer your question though. No I wouldn't be offended. Men learn how to date women over the years, the same way women learn how to date men over the years. It's damage control the same way women don't all fuck on the same date because she got taken advantage of in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:04 PM
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The fuck is morganfields. This was my exact thought too, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:03 PM
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You cannot compare the situation of an older man hitting on a teenage girl / child, and the girl feeling creeped out or scared for her safety, with being a grown man getting rejected by some woman he likes. I understand the latter is no doubt extremely painful, but these two situations are completely and totally incomparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 01:57 PM
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Unshaved, at least 150lbs with some belly rolls, short cropped hair and very modest clothing, dark blotchy red cheeks and lips, and smokers breath. This accurately describes most men I see, and is also the prime reason I find most men repulsive, short cropped hair and all. most women won’t end up looking like Belle Delphine, but they can land in the ball park. Most men won’t end up looking like Channing Tatum, but they never even try. Absolutely this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 01:50 PM
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The thing is, most men who are actively set up to be viewed as attractive in movies almost always look a certain way. They're well muscled, tall, chiseled jaw, typically bearded or at least some facial hair, defined brow ridge...just stereotypically masculine. Maybe if we changed commonly consumed media to have dadbod men in sexually highlighted positions, it would be easier for more women to find them attractive. I don't really agree with this. Are other womens tastes in men really affected by …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 01:38 PM
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But just saying the average woman should fuck the average guy, even when she doesn't find him attractive, shows a total lack of empathy for women and a basic lack of understanding for human psychology. There's a lot of that here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 01:29 PM
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Exact same experience here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 09:03 AM
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I don't understand why men like you don't go after women who are also massively into video games? I also don't understand why women like this try to change their male partners into something they aren't. Relationships like this sound miserable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:53 AM
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Women can not have sex without some sort of emotional connection. I'm sorry but thats the truth. No it isn't. So if a woman considers sex "casual", and she has created a lot of lifelong emotional connections Every causual blowjob or fuck a woman has does not create an emotional or "lifelong" connection. which just so happens to be the DEEPEST connection you can ever have with someone, her partner should care about her past. But every man doesn't. At least not enough to create issues. If a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:44 AM
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There is no "promiscuity issue" in the context you're referring to in the thread. Men like having sex. Women like having sex. Most men in the real world are capable of not having double standards or being hypocrities when it comes to sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 08:09 AM
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Quick, get out the witchhunting gear!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 07:50 AM
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Who even thinks up these studies? Like seriously, what is the point? This reminds me of that study a bunch of men did about the physical attractiveness levels of women with endometriosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 07:31 AM
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People with ASD are 7.55 times more likely to die by suicide. People with high-functioning ASD were at greater risk of suicide than low-functioning groups, and – unusually – women were more at risk than men. Unrelenting Depression And Suicidality In Women With Autistic Traits. I'm sorry that you feel this way about autistic men and women, but you clearly don't know much about autism in women at all. I feel like you're someone who should watch Love On The Spectrum (it's on Netflix). It shows happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:31 AM
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That's good. Most women are neurotypical. Is it good? Most people are dumb assholes. Concentrating on the masses in this way seems in many cases to backfire back onto the man, who likely is not neurotypical in the first place and so has extremely limited chances of attracting average, party-going neurotypical women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:01 AM
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Good job advertising your utterly abysmal reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 08:55 AM
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Working for men is not a choice. NEETs are all just made-up, then? Also, you should have told this to Mick Philpott.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:08 PM
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I walk a lot, eat (mostly) healthily, and maintain a bmi of around 19. My partner has stated that he would actually prefer me a little bigger, (around bmi 21), but I think I look best around this bmi. I like being lean. I don't care for working out honestly. Sure I'd like to be more toned, but my complete lack of ability to stick to it probably means I don't care that much to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 09:40 AM
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Am I not allowed to make observations to bring to the discussion? I wonder how many unfounded claims you have about women. Or how many men whose observations you invalidate on-sight and compare to jews plotting world domination for absolutely no good reason at all. Just saying. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 09:26 AM
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Your mindset is confusing. On one hand you condone a way of thinking which tells you that all women are the same, and yet you also understand that there are neurodiverse women. So what's the point in it then? Why not just make it about neurotypical women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 04:02 PM
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No, the red pill teaches men about female nature on the evolutionary psychology format on the basis that women are not unique psychologically and are the same. So there would be no reason to talk to “neuro-diversity” unless we are referring to “one” woman which we are not. Why would there be no reason to talk about neurodiversity when women are not all the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 03:53 PM
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If all women are different then what's the point in generalizing them in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 03:48 PM
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Autistic women do not have low standards No one said that autistic women have low standards. That's ...an interesting assertion. nor do they want to date other autistic men. ND+ND couplings are likely as NT+NT couplings. People tend to get on better with people of their own neurotype. [Will possibly come back edit with a source when I can dig it back up.]
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 03:47 PM
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Women do not experience this. Speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 05:56 PM
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Undesirable men who women just didn't pick in their youth, get annoyed because they get "left" with older women they find undesirable because she isn't as superfically pleasing as he'd like. At what point do you just accept that you aren't hot shit and lower your standards to a more appropriate level? Essentially you're saying men get upset that they couldn't attract physically desirable young women. And these men think they're nice people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:13 PM
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It's never a mans fault for ending up in a relationship with a woman who turns out to be an abuser, but it's always a womans fault for ending up in a relationship with a man who turns out to be an abuser. Okay, got it!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:39 PM
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You cant be both nice and abusive, even so theres no reason for anyone to not leave once someone does become abusive. This notion that everyone develops an insane level of Stockholm Syndrome and loses every single brain cell responsible for thinking just because they date an abuser is ridiculous. So where exactly did you learn this from then? Because I can tell you that you did not learn this from any serious literature on abuse. You very clearly just pulled it out of your ass. It demonstrates a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:33 PM
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This is every bit as short-sighted as saying it's easy for men to spot cheating women, lying women, golddigging women, or abusive women. "Just don't date the wrong person!" / "Just date the right person!" negates the enormous difficulty many men and women have in finding the right person or someone who isn't going to hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:19 PM
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And we can say that men chase bimbos who get breast implants and flaunt their bodies and use that to say "all men are shallow pigs". Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:01 AM
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It's absurd that someone can reply to me with "Jeremy_Meeks.exe" like it's some kind of serious intellectual response that floored me with facts and logic, while any rebuttal of mine to this absolute outlier of meme-level proportion is described as "hamstering". The facts remains that all kinds of geeks, professors, librarians, autistic men and generally "non-Chad-conforming" men do find love. Not being able to find a relationship does not in any way magically mean that you must be a "nice man".…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 10:50 AM
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He edited his reply three fucking times.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 10:41 AM
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I thought the point of marriage originated in the idea that the woman becomes the property of the man. It isn't really the main reason I don't want to get married, though. The concept of marriage I think is too pressured and expensive if it fails. The concept of weddings is extremely tacky, smug, and excessively showy. If I decide to commit my entire life to a man, I'll do it in private and with zero potential for horrific financial burden or consequences to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 10:00 AM
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You cant be both nice and abusive, even so theres no reason for anyone to not leave once someone does become abusive. This notion that everyone develops an insane level of Stockholm Syndrome and loses every single brain cell responsible for thinking just because they date an abuser is ridiculous. How many times you keep going back and editing your reply is ridiculous. I honestly don't think you know very much at all about how abusive relationships work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 09:50 AM
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When women publicly lust after a known criminal because of looks, with foreign women sending him thousands of dollars to pay for bail and ultimately for literal millionaires to bail and date him this idea seems not as nonsensical as you might think. Well you've brought up a very specific situation which is extremely rare. The fact that there are women who pen love letters to Ted Bundies or send money to bail out Jeremy Meeks' is no more representative of anything than any more than men who lust …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 09:48 AM
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What is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 09:42 AM
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She was just not supposed to reject decent men for jerks and promiscuity, become damaged in the process and then feel entitled to dump her baggage on one of those men she used to reject in the past, now that Mr. Wall has knocked on her door. And how do you know what a "decent man" is? Abusive, toxic men, domestically violent men, rapists, etc, are not all walking around looking like monsters. Such men typically have male friends who think the abusive asshole is "decent" just because he hangs out…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 09:26 AM
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I'm sorry, I don't believe that in the slightest, unless you're talking about some pot-smoking unemployed type of guy with clinical depression. There's lot between having a living room comprised of a TV with a chair in front of it, and having obsessive-compulsive disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:10 AM
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Look, there are numerous assumptions - correct and incorrect - that any of us here can make about the living situation of a person who keeps their living area like the one shown. Sure, maybe he's just moved in. Maybe he spends all his time outdoors, doing cool, fun, exciting stuff. Maybe he is a transcendental being who has achieved a nirvana-like state wherein he needs no silly, materialistic possessions, except for the.. wisdom that comes from his TV. But come on, let's not bullshit here. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 10:29 PM
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I'd imagine that would be irrelevant just being as pretty much everyones place looks like this when they first move in. I figured OP was speaking about this being about how men prefer to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 02:12 PM
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I genuinely can't tell if they're being serious or if they're joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 02:05 PM
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I don't think that's very fair. Her female friends could be very easily on the spectrum judging from how she described them. Neurotypical women can be an absolute tight-rope of social complexity if you're a neurodivergent woman, regardless of how much you may want to befriend or connect with them, and neurotypical women can generally be much less excusing of what could be percieved of as social faux-pas than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 11:30 AM
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Could your female friends be on the autistic spectrum or have traits? It's extremely common for women on the autistic spectrum to not get along with other women, have only one friend, or have mostly male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 11:25 AM
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And it would be considered sad by many men and many women alike, my friend. You say that the problem with society is that the male side tends to be demonized when it doesn't try to cater to women's needs and wants. That pitiful living room doesn't cater to most mens' needs and wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 10:35 AM
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There's only one chair. Where's she supposed to sit??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 10:15 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 10:11 AM
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You're the one who put the "sad" in it. Because dude, it DOES look sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 10:11 AM
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Not at all. I imagine many men would absolutely love a place like this or this. But also, that these kinds of very male-centric living spaces would absolutely impress women despite not being full of cosy "feminine values" or whatever. I think what really matters here is how much you look like you care about how you live, more than anything else. - There's a huge difference between a man who looks like he cares about himself, his life, his passions and how he lives, and being true to himself as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 10:02 AM
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Why do you think I inferred everything from this image that I brought as an example? Because that's the reason you posted the image in the first place. It wasn't, then why include it, and why talk about things with no relevance to your topic in the first place? Or just someone who spends his time outside? Or just he located in recently and hasn't had time to put furnitures, and his priorities are TV and gaming more than the comfort of eating on a table... None of these inferences were referenced…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 09:46 AM
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I'm confused by all you're inferring from this image. Even if you aren't interested in attracting a female partner, many people would at least want to make their home comfortable for friends and relatives who visit. Like come on, unless you're extremely poor, even if you live alone it'd be in your best interests to sit your arse in something other than a crappy camping chair? I don't interpret the image as that of being a single man without a "cosy" home. I interpret the image as being the home …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 09:33 AM
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I think that's a huge problem. I think they should. I think it should be their duty as parents to be acutely aware of how much the world has changed since they themselves were young. Otherwise they're raising their children to live in a world that doesn't really exist anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 01:04 PM
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That sounds like a matter for the parents to take up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 12:43 PM
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What kind of man voluntarily hands his cash over to a camgirl under the belief that she will become his girlfriend? I mean come on, you would have to be absolutely stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 12:38 PM
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You keep getting up in my inbox because you have a bee in your bonnet that I'm saying "all men are bad!", which I categorically did not say. I don't give a flying shit if you don't respect my opinion. I shall not be aiming to prove a single thing to you. If you don't care what I think of you, you're welcome to bug someone else about some made up crap they didn't say either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 08:31 PM
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You're butthurt over something that wasn't even said. Why care this much? Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 08:06 PM
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At the time of my writing my response, the comments with the most upvotes were all men saying underhanded, shitty things about OP and her looks, character, standards, etc. Men say shitty things to women here all the time. I don't care about what you think I implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 01:19 PM
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Even on PPD, there easily 10 good posts for 1 bad, and yet 'all men are bad'... Nobody said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 07:52 AM
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Misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:10 PM
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Don't get sucked into what men here say. They don't represent all men the same way all women on FDS don't represent all women. If you give some guys here an inch, they will take a mile, enjoying exploiting it with things like telling you that you aren't attractive, implying you have nothing to offer as a partner, questioning how much you deserve, and generally just tearing into you further. "Don't let the bastards get you down", so to speak. It's not worth the hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:06 PM
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Most threads like this and the FDS equivalent are just people bitching about crappy people. "Men are shallow assholes who just want sex", "Women are shallow bitches who just want money", etc, etc, it goes on and on. There are crappy, shallow, materialistic, selfish and entitled people of both sexes. Neither men, nor women have a monopoly on those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:53 PM
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And nobody is defending that, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:36 PM
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No, you're strawmanning this to shit. No one said in any way that emotional self-regulation is a bad thing. Emotional self-regulation and the ability to self-soothe are extremely important things. This is not about that. This is about men being able to reach out if they do want or need support from other people, and the issue with toxic masculinity is that it calls men "pussies" for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 10:05 AM
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This thread is 4 months old. Let it go.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 09:57 AM
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It's basic human psychology, and not by any means male-specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:21 PM
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I mean, sure you could teach them how to organize bits and pieces and learn to paint, but it's going to be an absolute world away from quietly dedicating yourself to a serious craft on your own, calmly concentrating and working away in your own world. The idea of including a small child in my art just sounds incredibly stressful and not fun at all. Sure there's the act of teaching a child to do all these things related to art, and that could be very rewarding, but definitely not the same thing. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:33 PM
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Sorry, your quote isn't something I said, so I'm not sure if you responded to me by accident or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 12:44 PM
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Really though? I mean, the time and financial burden of parenthood alone prevents many people from indulging those kinds of exciting and creativity-driven things when they become parents, (can you really sink hours into say, a meticulous painting with children running amok around you?), but even if you're able to, it could never possibly be the same as travelling alone or with a partner. You have so much less time. You're constantly going to be tied to your children, factoring in their needs, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 12:20 PM
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Which things?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 11:35 AM
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Idk about you but I think they may prefer bad vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 11:05 AM
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Absolutely. I get that for some people having children really is a dream come true, but I'd much rather explore the world with someone I love, make friends, go to gigs and indulge all of my creative passions. I love creating art and music, reading books, and having freedom. That is what real fulfilment looks like to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 11:00 AM
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You articulated the concept of toxic masculinity so damn well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 08:55 AM
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If you're someone who can go through life, never at all needing or wanting the emotional support of another human being, that's great. Seeking emotional support from others doesn't make a man weak, however. Given the enormous social pressure on men to be emotionally locked up, seeking emotional support actually requires more inner strength than not having the strength to risk appearing weak in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 08:43 AM
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I feel like alot of the things labelled as toxic masculinity in modern day can be better described as stuff that feminists don't like about Men. Except for misogyny/homophobia I don't see what is necessarily wrong about the rest. You seriously don't see how things like isolation and pressure to not show weakness couldn't backfire horribly onto the man himself? These reasons are contributing factors as to why suicide in men in so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 07:47 AM
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"The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." Yeah we don't need this kind of power tripping, high-on-testosterone, "warrior" crap anymore though. We've evolved well past the need for animalistic beasts of men hell-bent on power. We don't need men who fantasize about "vanquishing their enemies" and gaining ownership of women and all that bull…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 06:41 PM
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Men don't prefer thick women. I am 112lbs and 5'6 and the number of men that have complimented me on my figure are far too many for someone that doesn't fit the modern beauty standard according to your post. I'm similar height and weight to you and have the same experience. I think the abundance of overweight and obese women actually makes thin women stand out more. And the average woman is still not shaped like "thicc" celebrities who have had boob jobs and butt implants to achieve that beauty …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 08:42 AM
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Because virtue is a female responsibility, you should cover your plate. No it isn't, and no we won't. Decent men don't need to be dictated to like dogs in the first place. Every man does not behave like a disgusting animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 06:18 PM
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Just because it isn't against the law doesn't mean it's fine to do though, does it? Your sense of morality has to be seriously questionable for the only thing holding you back from behaving like some kind of rabid, uncontrollable animal is the threat of facing legal consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:54 PM
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As a woman who is sexually attracted to other women, I don't find it at all difficult to just not say sexual things to women I don't even know. I just don't get why it's so hard to for men to understand that no what a woman looks like, or is dressed like, you don't tell them "I wanna raid your tomb" or whatever? It's so uncivilized. This thread kind of reminds me of that photo that went viral of a woman with her pet dog sitting calmly next to a dinner and the caption reading - "To the people tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:39 PM
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I'm in a relationship already but if I wasn't, I wouldn't want to be with someone who had a kid (or kids). Motherhood isn't on the cards for me in any way and never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:35 AM
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Yeah definitely look into therapy. It seems like both of you need it. Your relationship sound unhealthy as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:06 AM
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we've to appear "non threatening", "respectable", "non abusive" to women to get sex from them specially If you are naturally predisposed to threatening, abusive behavior you should seek therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:04 AM
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Things I find physically attractive in men: Long hair. Much softer and more feminine in appearance than the stereotypical "rugged, attractive alpha male" look. Facially expressive. "Jeans and t-shirt" fashion style, (like me). Height has never mattered to me, and most of the men I've dated have been closer to my height of 5ft 5 than 6ft. I've found it pretty easy to find men also interested in me, who fit this profile, fortunately. I feel it's important to note that I have recently understood my…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 10:12 AM
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Honestly I can see both occurring. It isn't exactly like small, vulnerable men are simply never targets, is it? I think this really depends on which kind of asshole it is sizing you up in the first place. Some just want to get into a fight with someone and win; some have something to prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 01:07 PM
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I guarantee you that a 5'7" martial artist (or someone that exercises regularly even) can kick a 6'5" dude's ass. Of course. But 5'7" trained martial artists are typically not the ones starting fights and picking brawls, attacking random people. That guy is usually your average drunk asshole in a tracksuit, holding his cheap beer. And typically, it is also definitely not 6'5" tall men they are selecting for those fights and brawls.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 10:50 AM
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I became anti-porn after my own experience working in the industry. People pretend it's healthy but it's toxic as shit. Every guy I've been with who regularly used porn were absolutely awful lovers. It took me a while to work out that their porn use affected their performance and desensitized them to the act of sex over masturbation alone. I'm lucky in that the man I'm with now prefers and values sex way above solitary masturbation and porn use. We actually discussed all this way before we got t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:27 PM
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Homophobia is just a natural reaction men and women have. We find the gays gross and kinda ridiculous. Who is "we"? Everyone doesn't think like this. Homophobic bigots find "the gays gross".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:10 PM
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Idk but I'd like to know what kind of shit goes through this guys' mind when he's on his deathbed and he has this absolutely bizarre life and "mature woman" sob story behind him. Just weird, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 07:25 PM
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The height thing must be frustrating for men. BMI under 25 seems completely reasonable to me. Wanting a healthy partner I don't think should be frowned upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:11 PM
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Women could easily avoid this by going for a nice beta male. Men are not all on this "alpha" or "beta" binary. No wonder TRP men get pissy at women for our dating choices when they go around thinking only 2 types of men exist in the world. "Nice beta men" covers a whole range of human beings, though, and not all of them are as "nice" as they think they are. Plenty of men who categorize themselves as "nice" are anything but.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:30 AM
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The wall exists but doesn't mean a female is UNABLE to get any male. It is the fact that she is unable to attract the same QUALITY of male for relationships as she gets older. The vast majority of men I attracted as a young woman were absolutely horrific human beings. This may have something to do with the fact that I have a vulnerable "look", and always looked far younger than my actual age, and so attracted many predatory men, but certainly as I entered my 30s, it's become so much easier. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:18 AM
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Sets of standards like this could only ever be actually upsetting to someone if someone who doesn't fit into someones' specific set of standards, wishes they did. That aside, your preferences are your preferences, and people tend to have more specific preferences when it comes to weight. If you set your preferences to a clinically underweight BMI or a BMI that commonly comes with health problems (rather than good health), you'd come across pretty weird, and yeah, probably put a lot of people off…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 09:01 AM
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Disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 08:24 AM
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And it's still not okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 08:23 AM
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Well they're responsible for their own actions. AND are taking advantage of miserable, sad, lonely men. That's how it works. Well ain't that convenient?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 08:15 AM
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It's not a personal problem. Every man doesn't think that porn is great. Many men see the problems with it. I'm happy with a narrowed candidate pool. I'm also in an extremely sexually fulfilling relationship with a man who is totally compatible with me. My present view of porn has not negatively affected my life in the slightest. I will not attempt to go back to the naive and limited view I held of porn before I had lived experience in the industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 10:48 PM
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Demonizing porn is just a symptom of deeper problems. Porn is a problem. I say this as someone who worked in the industry first-hand and went into it with a completely accepting attitude. The industry is rife with horrific abuse, financial blackmail, drug addiction, trafficking, enslavement, and entrapment. You very probably need to accept porn to find a man worth having. A consumer of porn isn't a partner worth having to me. I don't need to be with a man who consumes porn. You definitely need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 10:33 PM
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This prevalent logic about "women love assholes so I'll be an asshole and that's perfectly fine" is extremely alarming and overtly predatory. It's no secret that vulnerable people tend to attract predatory people, especially women who have already been abused, or who had an abusive father growing up. Traumatized abused women getting caught in repeated cycles of abuse DOES NOT mean that these women are happy in their situations or picked abusive men consciously. It certainly doesn't mean that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:39 PM
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I'm in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:38 PM
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I don't understand this "what do I need her for?" The same things everyone else wants a relationship for? Companionship, romantic connection and reciprocation, affection, sex, a life partner, a best friend? I don't know what you, personally, would want a partner for. Trauma and hardships affect everyone. - Loss, bereavement, illness, heartbreak, all part of the human experience. No one is exempt. All of us are struggling through with ups and downs. Nobody "fixes" or "sorts out" trauma. You can b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:10 PM
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is a piss poor strategy if that's really what it's being used for. No it isn't. Our personal safety is important to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:00 PM
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Um. I really hope that men realise the whole "let's be friends" thing is very typically used to soften the blow of rejection and is not necessarily to be taken literally. A woman could say "let's just be friends" and have absolutely no intention of preserving any form of friendship. This is used solely because we are afraid of violent retaliation. "Let's be friends" is the most pragmatic approach to damage control when it comes to telling a man we don't want to be with him sexually or romantical…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 01:31 PM
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No one said that anyone should fix the trauma other people have.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 09:09 AM
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Yes. I totally agree! 30s, or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 04:47 PM
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Every woman isn't comfortable with their partner consuming porn. No woman is required to accept a partner who watches porn. Plenty of women really, really dislike it, object to it morally, and / or it's simply a complete turn-off. Imo it's pretty vile that it's become so popular to try to tell women that they "should" accept it. We don't have to accept it. That's her right as much as it's the right of each person to decide who they choose to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 04:41 PM
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They won't have that experience, no. Instead they will have different forms of pain and psychological difficulties stemming from things like loneliness, isolation, resentment, confusion, low self-esteem and insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 03:34 PM
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Kind of related question - Do you feel that social media has worsened this? Do you feel social media may have made women more shallow in this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 10:49 AM
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Men don’t want to be with loser height and wealth obsessed women either. Yes. And I don't think anyone here would deny that, or attempt to spin that men desire to be with a woman like that. I think it's decent to assume that men do not want to be with golddigging, height-obsessed women, the same way it's safe to assume that women do not want to be with youth-obsessed men. To be put off by either is reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 10:28 AM
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I can't imagine being with a woman that carried all the baggage of every single failed relationship/rejection from her youth and projected that rage on every single guy out there that had nothing to do with her history of failed/non relationships. It sounds fucking exhausting being with someone like that. People, not just women, carry various traumas and emotional baggage around with them for, and as a part of, life. It doesn't necessarily mean they will project rage at you. (I mean, this is als…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 07:45 AM
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But when men are young they want their age match. They only become youth obsessed because women reject them in their youth. Not our problem. If you can't attract women in your youth, it doesn't mean women owe you theirs. It doesn't work like that. False there is no evidence of that You're literally denying marital rape? Oh dear. Hey did you know that marital rape only became outlawed in England in the 90s? Absolutely false lmfao. Did you know that doctors used to believe that men beating their w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:23 AM
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No you just don't even take the time to consider it Oh come on, it's just so shallow and unreasonable, though. Women don't want to be with a loser, youth-obsessed man any more than a man wants to be with a money-obsessed golddigger. It's pathetic. Why is that so ridiculous to you? It used to be the norm so it's not miraculous or impossible it's simply not occurring because women are choosing not to Marital rape also used to be the norm. Beating your wife used to be the norm. Women have historica…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:57 AM
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Please you're acting like a lot of women don't spend their youth rejecting guys for being too ugly, short, boring and then becoming more accepting towards those guys after they failed to get commitment from the chads who pumped and dumped them. A lot of young people - male and female - spend their youth falling in love and having sex with the most attractive, desirable young people they can find. A lot of them hope they'll be together forvever. A lot of these relationships fail. Some were never …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:46 AM
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after being denied her youth and prime. How do you think the experiences of human life actually work? All women cannot psychically know that the men we form romantic and sexual relationships with in our youth won't work out, but rather will be a lifelong process of change, discovery and learning. Women are not plotting to deny dear men of our Sacred Youthful Tit. If you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. If you feel contempt for women for our not miraculously providing our youthful ass-ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:31 AM
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All this means is they shift because of practical realities. Many rich people who have enough money to buy the flashy car end up doing it. Middle class morality trains middle class people to clap like trained seals "I didn't want it anyway" The "flashy car" thing appeals to people and celebrities who want to project an image of opulence to others for clout. Many actual upper class people don't really care to project this image, or feel they want or need to, and instead spend money on some practi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:14 AM
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"MaTurIty" is perhaps what they call it to avoid falling into the quicksand of grappling with their declining value and ultimate mortality. I feel your entire view can be summarized by your choice here to make fun of this word as though the absolutely enormous experience of human maturation were somehow silly or ridiculous. The process of maturation from an 18 year old to a 30 year old generally encompass huge physical and psychological changes in terms of not only how we view ourselves and our …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 11:51 PM
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Lol what has banning porn got to do with anything? Nobody brought that up. And okay sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:53 PM
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That just smacks of entitlement to sexual stimulation from women for no good reason. "You shouldn't be against porn unless you become a blowjob machine for man" is entitled af.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:47 PM
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Everyone is different. What works for some doesn't for others. All women do not feel jealous about a partners porn use by any means. Some do, and I just feel that it's important that people don't shame them for that. I think it often brings with it the implication that a given woman somehow "should" be comfortable with something she just simply isn't. I think if a woman isn't comfortable with it, it should be respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:56 PM
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Everyone has different views on this. Some people think it's petty. Some people think it isn't. Some women are fine with it. Some women aren't. Some men probably DON'T much like their female partners drooling over men in romance novels. Some couples enjoy the swingers lifestyle. There are asexual couples. Everyone is different and everyone has different preferences, gripes, insecurities, etc. The real deal is communicating what those are and agreeing on what you're both comfortable with, comprom…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:53 PM
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Preface: I am former very successful, pro-sex work camgirl who left the industry voluntarily at the height of my success as a direct result of the trauma stemming from objectification and self-objectification. Those things, despite my success, were not conducive to my mental health in any way, and the industry I was a part of, I now believe, fuel the degradation and mistreatment of women and girls generally. It is not necessarily that depictions of women in a sexual way are harmful in and of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:06 PM
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Good old men!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:57 AM
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Men actively wage wars. Women do not actively antipate or encourage rape. The comparison here falls flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 01:16 PM
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Then please do explain then why men make and enjoy entertainment dedicated to the subject of war and violence - glorifying them in the process - while it's exceptionally rare for women to do the same. Women do not go around harboring a secret "love" of war, in any fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 12:46 PM
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No one asserted that more women are hurt and killed in war than are men. Men wage wars. Men kill each other. Women are raped, and women and children are killed and hurt in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 12:39 PM
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How many women are raped and killed in wars? "Women love war" is an absolutely ridiculous lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 11:21 AM
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“The warrior ethic has damaged us. As we move into the twenty-first century we need to mature beyond war and warriors. I disagree with those men’s movement writers and activists who speak so highly of the warrior. I appreciate some of his traits—like courage, teamwork, loyalty—but the archetype itself is bankrupt at this point in history. We surely need guardians, boundary-setters, husbandmen, and citizens. If we are to survive on this planet, so threatened by war and warriors, we must get beyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 09:56 AM
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It's not a rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:54 AM
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I think you missed the point. Of course every living thing experiences pain and discomfort. However, there is a very specific form of discomfort I'm referring to here. I'm referring to the everyday forms of pain and discomfort that come from performance of being a woman - the specific performance of femininity. E.g. Wearing restrictive, uncomfortable clothing; being forever conscious of our appearance and external presence. I am referring to a very female-specific type of pain here as a part of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:33 AM
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It's weird. They're undesirable people trying to become "high value", in order to attract other "high value" people, and yet in their attempt to make this happen, simply become obnoxious and even more deeply undesirable. I think thats why it's fascinating to look at those subs. It's basically "Write out a huge list detailing everything you want in a man and make it as unrealistically perfect as possible" / "Women love assholes. So be an asshole. Try to be Chad."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:02 AM
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We're used to discomfort and disappointment as a part of our everyday lives. Actually many of us are absolutely steeped in constant, low-level discomfort as a part of the performance of femininity, having been taught from a young age that that is "good", that "pain is beauty", and so on. Many things about womanhood are uncomfortable, but we learn to accept that alongside being taught to prioritize male sexual pleasure far above our own. We're so used to not getting our sexual needs met that a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 07:02 AM
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I don't think it's out of line for men to treat them with less respect than a woman who dresses modestly. Women deserve different levels of respect depending on how they dress? How fucked up. Do men deserve less respect for toplessness as well? we're talking about the difference between Megan Markle and Megan Thee Stallion Even more fucked up that you bring up a woman who has recently been fucking shot. Let me guess, she deserved it for how she dresses?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 07:01 PM
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Sure. And men will do anything to tell us we're showing off, flaunting, deliberately parading and attempting to attract to us when we aren't, so they can justify their inappropriate treatment of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 05:51 PM
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In short: You don't have to be objectively hot for someone to be physically attracted to you. I don't think I'm that attractive, but my boyfriend - being in love and being attached to me - finds me physically attractive. That's enough for me. Objectively pretty =/= Someone being physically attracted to you. It's much more complex, and a lack of physical attraction usually hints at there being some kind of issue in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:44 PM
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The issue here is that you already have an obvious bias against women. - "Will they also deny that they want to show off too?" - You're already framing this as: 1. You know what their "real" intention is (to exhibit their body). 2. They are in denial of their real intentions. And so, despite seeing the fact that you likely see men who walk around half-nude - taking it MUCH further than women in specific clothing - it makes no logical sense to exclude them from your line of questioning. Why, in g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:41 PM
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I think it's a really relevant question to this discussion. Can you not answer it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:11 PM
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I mean, okay? In some cases, sure. Some couples only stay together long enough to fuck. Some couples only stay together long enough to raise a child. Some couples stay together for far longer. Some couples stay together for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:06 PM
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Lol how many men walk around topless "because it's hot"??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:04 PM
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This subverts the important element of attachment in relationships. Attachment is the entire glue keeping couples locked together in a commitment scenario, despite external influences (e.g. other desirable people being reachable) or internal struggles, (e.g. relationship problems; dealing with and accepting the partners flaws and imperfections). If a man had absolutely no sense of attachment to the woman he's in a relationship with, I can imagine he would be more likely to be polygamous, or even…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:02 PM
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Well, in that case it wouldn't bother me as much. I've had some ugly af exes who I saw as beautiful at the time because I had a mental attraction to them. You can "see" someone as physically attractive because you desire them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:53 PM
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I don't even know why this is a question. It would devestate me and I would question the entire relationship. I want to be with someone who finds me attractive physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:49 PM
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Looks do fade but that doesn't mean physical attraction also does. When someone views another through the eyes of romantic love, that attraction can still remain despite their not looking their best. After all, every person in the world who is desired by another is not a model, regardless of their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:48 PM
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Quite a lot is better than just being like a living fleshlight...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:47 PM
2

Tbf I use the term "sex work" just because it covers everything. It wouldn't feel right to call someone who works in porn a "prostitute" in the same way it wouldn't feel right to call a stripper that. "Sex work" just feels like a convenient word to use when you want to cover the entire realm of work involving porn, sex, stripping, fetish producers, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 04:53 PM
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I love that you put "not wearing a mask" in the same sentence and context as drugs, alcohol and sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 04:47 PM
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Liberal feminists. Some men with obvious vested interest too, but mostly libfems. Newbie sex workers also, with not more than a few years under their belt max of actual experience before they nope the hell out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 04:36 PM
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Yeah you're really wrong about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 04:28 PM
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I find it bizzare that FDS A) has encounter that many shit men and B) that they would want to date that gender considering their view of them? I think the kind of extreme stuff you find on places like FDS and TRP platforms are really indicative of how people really don't choose their sexuality or which gender they're attracted to. I think if a lot of these people could stop wanting to date, they really would, hence the need for the "going their own way" places. Maybe all these places are just ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 09:57 AM
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It is "unfiltered honesty", sure, but only from the perspective of the person who wrote it. FDS is no more representative of the general female population than is any RP-style discussion board you could pick from. The idea that prospective partners ought to compile a list of 500 things of perks or whatever, is obviously absolutely ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 08:27 AM
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Almost everything. It's why I spend time here in the first place. Reading men writing with such conviction about the success of a type of man that repulses me, as well as all the terms and tricks, is genuinely fascinating to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:48 AM
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Lol only being able to achieve orgasm through clitoral stimulation has nothing to do with a womans body weight or how "hot" or whatever the man she's having sex with is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:43 AM
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I don't feel offended by it. I just feel really bad for women named Karen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:38 AM
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Exactly this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 05:03 PM
1

Okay, unless they're Harold fucking Shipman, how many people commonly lie about something in a job interview that could potentially result in people losing their lives versus your average Joe juicing up their CV in an interview simply to get some regular mundane job they need to survive and pay their bills?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 08:50 AM
5

So how many men are degenerate sluts by this logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 03:35 PM
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So best manipulate women into bed because that's just fine to do if you can't get your dick wet any other way, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 03:32 PM
5

And what's your definition of "degenerate slut"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 03:31 PM
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Even if someone lied during a job interview, how is that comparable in terms of ethics to lying in order to get sex from someone for your own selfish pleasure? If you wind up sucking at the job you lied out of your ass to get, you're going to suffer the consequences of that. You'll possibly be fired, and possibly be financially screwed with it. Even if you stay, you're still stuck in a job you're inept at. If you're a manipulative asshole happy to bullshit your way into a womans underwear knowin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 01:50 PM
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This, and your subsequent responses, is precisely the kind of thing a manipulative man who uses women for sex but whose ego is pained by integrating "manipulator" into his self-image, and thus invents a nonsensical rhetoric surrounding it to preserve his dignity would say. "I'm not a manipulator because x! because women enjoy sex! because women like compliments! and what about people presenting themselves at job interviews! People lie anyway! It's normal unless you're autustic / mentally ill!" -…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 11:40 AM
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Absolutely not under any circumstances. It isn't cute. It isn't sexy. Just offensive, belittling, degrading, infantile, stupid... I've had enough objectifiying comments and treatment from random men for it to be anything I'd at all appreciate or enjoy from my partner. All it would really do is remind me of all the unsolicited objectifying comments I've had from men in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 05:35 PM
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You might say that personality counts but c’mon, women will rather date the jerk and rich hot guy instead of the poor and nice ugly guy. Same thing for men, they rather date the disloyal and mean hot girl instead of the loyal and nice fat/ugly girl. I can honestly say I don't know a single human being who operates like this. Are you sure this isn't just you speaking for yourself? Not one person in my social group has dated or chosen partners in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:08 AM
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How many men get burned spoiling women with material goods that cost them money, and then get heartbroken? How many men in that position would continue to spoil women off-the-bat without wanting time building trust to help ensure the same thing doesn't happen again?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 03:25 PM
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We don't choose male priorities. Men themselves put a high value on female youth and beauty, and as a direct result, many women do use it to our advantage; we are rewarded enormously for doing so. Men place high value on female beauty, but we are frequently degraded for possessing it, and other meanings and associations can become attributed to us as people for having it, such as men taking it as an invitation. I think it's important to differentiate "I am naturally beautiful and that is a posit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 11:36 AM
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If your biggest concern with this person is that you find her face pretty to look at and you want to put your dick in her, you need to peel your face away from this screen, walk up to your mirror, and strongly reevaluate the kind of person you want to be. Man, this is completely deplorable, on every level.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 08:41 AM
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Utterly psychopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 08:27 AM
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The fact that there's discussion here on how to "plate" a raped, traumatized human being is inhumane. No you don't need "purple pill". You need to learn some basic fucking humanity, for fuck's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 08:27 AM
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I spent my childhood watching my sister make poor decisions with men. She was horrifically abused by a man I saw as masculine, swaggering, and promiscuous. It made me attracted to the opposite. As I got older I would go for short, shy, unmasculine, virgin men, operating under the misguided notion that they would treat me gently, that they'd be "nice guys". They were some of the biggest pieces of shit imaginable. Socially maladjusted, abusive, porn-obsessed, and selfish. The shy guy with the big …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 07:50 AM
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Stop telling women what we're attracted to. This board is for debate, not telling people you know how they think / feel, no matter what your RP philosophy about "hAmStErInG" tells you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 10:53 AM
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All sexual interaction is manipulation. Bit of a big difference between the "manipulation" of catering to your strengths and bolstering your attractiveness with makeup or whatever in attracting a partner, and the "manipulation" that comes with actual emotional abuse resulting in trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 10:50 AM
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Read it again, perhaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 09:01 AM
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Yup, seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:51 AM
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What does being on a debate sub have to do with an observation of contrarianism?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 03:14 PM
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Wow I love how this has been downvoted so much, and yet men bang on constantly here about the bloody "wall" and how women are only worth youth and beauty, but the second we express the psychological consequences we bear of this extent of objectification, there's rage and eye-rolling. This is like men expressing the mental health consequences of being over-worked, and then some women rocking up and saying "get the fuck back up that scaffolding shithead."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 02:50 PM
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Okay now I'm certain that many men here are just contrarians based on anything any woman here says. Say that men love older mature women and they'll talk about the wall. Say that men love younger exciting women and they'll fucking debate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 01:14 PM
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Haa! Whole lotta men here do not want to admit to men falling in love with excitable, carefree, cute young women. You could almost gather that they prefer downtrodden, miserable, boring husks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 01:12 PM
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Completely false, again. Plenty of "sane" men act entitled to sex. How many men do you think sexually harass, assault, stalk, and rape women every day on this planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:26 PM
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You always hear about ‘Men act entitled to Sex and its accepted!’ ...But is it? Yes. The only time a sane man acts entitled to sex is if he’s been taking the woman out on dates or doing things for her Ha! You are extremely misled. That's totally and completely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:06 PM
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She's obviously thinking this out extremely well to actually articulate her concerns in the form of a list of pros and cons. That's possibly the most mature way to handle and process a concern like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 10:06 AM
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Someones suitability for a particular job depends on their skills and experience to the potential employer. Someones suitability for a particular friendship depends on their agreeableness to the potential friend. And women don't enjoy flirtatious behavior from men we find sexually repulsive or undesirable. Shouldn't be surprising at all. Every man is not gods gift to women, and therefore won't be received by us as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 06:10 AM
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I don't really get this because I don't know a ton of men running around and being complete gentlemen to strangers. I agree with this. I know men who are just like natural gentlemen - not just gentlemen to women they want to fuck - but gentlemen to other men even. It's like some men even forget that other men can actually be geuinely lovely human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 08:31 PM
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Very unfortunately, I don't have any cats. I do have a darn awesome boyfriend, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 08:26 PM
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Blah blah blah "wimmin are inconsistent!" You, as a grown adult are responsible for learning and following the law. If you're too stupid to do that, that's entirely on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 08:47 AM
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He really, really, really does not want to face that fact. He's in complete denial of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:32 AM
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Lol yeah I thought you had no idea what you were talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 02:16 PM
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I feel unsafe as a woman therefore "transition into a man"? Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 01:59 PM
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Yes! Male sexual attention has done nothing except at least make me feel uncomfortable and at worst make me feel in serious danger. I have enough personal skills, talents and qualities to offer a partner to not rely on superficial attraction alone to get me by, and the last thing I want on earth is sexual attention from random men because they looked at my body.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 08:28 AM
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Sorry Dwayne Johnson.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 08:03 PM
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It looks hideous though. Guys like that are usually full of ego and anger issues, also.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 05:00 PM
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Anyone can pretend to be something they aren't to attract people. That isn't new at all. It fucks relationships up all the time. People pretend to be something they aren't to attract someone they like, and then the relationship inevitably falls apart because they can't keep the act up 24/7 for years. It's a stupid, immature means of finding a person, and a total waste of yours and someone else's time. Belle Delphine appeals because she is a fantasy character. I have no doubt that many men will b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 03:13 AM
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Might be time to accept that every woman doesn't have identical physical preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 11:34 AM
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Sharing romantic and sexual passion, friendship, sex, emotional connection, helping and going through life together, being there for each other through life's traumas, enjoying our hobbies and interests together, helping and supporting each other achieve one anothers' goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 08:23 AM
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...It just is? Idk how to explain subjective superficial preferences. It just looks gross and unappealing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 08:16 AM
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The "ripped" look is just aesthetically ugly to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:11 PM
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A little extra weight is absolutely not a dealbreaker. I would rather be with an overweight guy over a "ripped" guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:42 AM
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The kind of man who uses nonsense words like "hamstering" to invalidate what a woman states about herself isn't worth listening to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 10:03 AM
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Virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:39 AM
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I don't care in which order men develop attraction, to me or anyone else. But if a man cold-approaches me, I know he's just looked at my tits or ass and thought he wants a bit. I'm not interested in that. I have been cold-approached more times than I can count. 100% of them have been rejected. edit - Also men who do this are usually men with a PUA mind-set or men with a very high body count. The kind of man who chats random women up in the street could never be a man I'd be interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:28 AM
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Ha! My god, you really think you have actually have a point with this, don't you? Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:20 AM
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you think the order in which these attractions develop is only acceptable the way you do it. I do? Cool story.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 08:00 PM
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So, you only approach men you don't find physically appealing? I mean you kind of nailed it with most of your post here, but you totally fucked this part up. No, you totally fucked up your interpretation of what I said. I approach men that I'm intellectually, emotionally, and physically interested in. Totally different to when some random just walks up to me on my way to catch a train.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 07:22 PM
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I have always approached men in my life I've been interested in just fine. I'm not sure where people get this idea that women never approach men they're interested in. I'm a very shy, anxious woman, but I've never had a problem telling a man that I'm interested in him. That said, anyone approaching anyone is still an utterly nerve-wracking experience, and if you've already developed an emotional connection with someone, it adds so much more risk to the act of approaching. This is the very reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 09:58 AM
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Not news to me. Sexless men who view women only as literal breathing fuck-holes of personal betrayal don't care about us as human beings. And therefore we don't give a flying shit about catering to their sexual requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 05:20 AM
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Only a person who sees the worth and value of women as being strictly limited to how they can be used for sexual purposes would say something like this. Very deep misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 09:54 PM
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Are you forgetting that your tax money also pays for the law enforcement required to police male crime, violence, vandalism, etc? Are you also upset with how much of your tax money goes toward violent / unemployed / criminal male losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:58 PM
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Oh my god THANK YOU!! Seeing this post, on this sub, with so many upvotes and awards is absolutely awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:42 PM
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Google it. Research it. Take the time to educate yourself on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 08:42 AM
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Thought you would!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 08:36 AM
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Charities, moving to Saudi Arabia.. You enjoy repeating yourself so much it's no wonder you're a fan of cold approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:26 PM
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I appear to have struck a nerve...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:22 PM
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You don't like being cold-approached. That does not mean there's something bad about cold-approaching and it shouldn't convince anyone to stop. Just like charities are free to (and probably should) continue soliciting even if I find them annoying. I love your fondness for repeatedly comparing men cold-approaching women to people working for charities approaching people in public. Men who cold-approach random women in public really do seem like charity-cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:07 PM
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More buzzwords when you have no argument. No you just really, really don't want to accept the fact that women aren't responsible for male behavior. If some women don't mind or like it but you don't, why should I or anyone else cater to you? If you're giving us attention because of the way we're dressed then why the fuck should we cater to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:13 AM
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Women: Expected to be modestly dressed, well-behaved and accountable for causing external responses toward them for the shape of their bodies. Men: "We're animals".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:09 AM
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More blaming women's clothing and bodies for male behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:04 AM
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Tip:Nah,it’s fine to capitalise MEN Hahahaha! How completely silly!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:59 AM
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If you do something that naturally invites attention, don't be surprised when you receive it. Possessing visible breasts and a female figure is enough to garner male attention. Again: We do not "invite" that attention simply by having visible female bodies / features. There's nothing immoral about it. Stay in church if it bothers you. No. No I fucking won't. Men should stay indoors if they can't walk past a scantily-clad woman without giving her shitty unwarranted attention. If a woman doesn't l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:54 AM
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How women dress themselves is not an invitation for attention. The world does not revolve around your "feelz". The world doesn't revolve around your penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:27 AM
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I can't stop possessing breasts or a female body. Stop holding women responsible for the actions of men. Or are men really just mere beasts who lack the ability to control themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:16 AM
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I didn't miss the point. The point was absolutely ridiculous. You compared women to freshly baked cookies and now you're holding women responsible for the actions and behavior of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:15 AM
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Women aren't food ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:05 AM
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THANK YOU!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:04 AM
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Newsflash: We get it whether we actively seek it out or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:00 AM
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^ THIS! Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:59 AM
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But most are playing that game and im sick of them pretending like theyre not pushing that line all the time. No, we aren't. You're just trying to find ways of excusing shitty male behavior. I don’t know theres just something really annoying about it, it just feels like many women are trying to control men with guilt and shame as much as possible and basically decide when and where men are allowed to have feelings, sexual or otherwise thats my main beef. And acting super sexy and then calling yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:57 AM
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How we dress ourselves isn't an invitation. Why is it so hard for men to realise that women can want to look sexy or dress down and also want to be left alone? It really should not be this complex. It really gets me down in the summer months, when covering up isn't an option, and men sexually harass me just because they see the shape of my body. Fucking stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:52 AM
2

:'( Why couldn't u just be taller?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 10:44 AM
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God this is actually hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 10:33 AM
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Oh do give it a rest, you don't even know which men she goes for, christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 10:16 AM
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Yeah you're still doing the exact same thing you did before in your post that just got removed just without the slew of insults. She literally just said she doesn't want pity sex. Women are allowed to not have sex with men they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 10:06 AM
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Relieved. If I'm interested in a man, if he doesn't approach me first, I approach him. I rarely find that many men desirable, but when I do experience attraction, I experience it very strongly, so I don't find it enjoyable to wait or hold off when I'm experiencing desire for someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:25 AM
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I'm a woman and I don't want to marry. I'm 33, in a serious LTR and that hasn't changed. The whole thing seems weird to me. If I were a man it'd be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 02:32 PM
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Plenty of regular men have casual sex and hookups in their youth, and then mature as they get older and decide they want to settle down, get married and have a family. The average sexually successful guy manages not to be a raging hypocrite bent out of shape because he didn't possess a woman's youth or whatever. It seems like the only men who have an issue with women maturing and changing their sexual / romantic priorities as they age are pissed because they themselves remain immature fuckwits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:25 AM
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Men spout openly sexist shit about women here on a daily basis, and then you rock up with facts and sources about men and trigger the living fucking daylight outs of guys here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:15 AM
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Thank you so much for your presence on this sub. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:04 AM
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My thread was aimed at the 35+ year old men who barely look after their personal hygiene let alone their attractiveness, who want a beautiful 18 - 23 year old European virgin woman and expect nothing less. You definitely are NOT a part of the group of men I'm referring to, in other words.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:52 PM
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your very same left-wing politics would consider this "inhumane". But even if we had a magic witch wand to kill off every rapist who ever raped, you would still be unhappy, because we needed to use that wand to begin with. So there is nothing men can do because they were born with the original sin of potential for violence. Whole lot of wild personal assumptions going on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:42 PM
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You are probably not going to be raped, child molested, pimped, trafficked, enslaved, or murdered in a first world country Totally and utterly inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:08 PM
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Male-perpetrated violence isn't common?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:33 PM
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Men ARE a threat to women. That is not "my argument". It's a plain fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:31 PM
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I find their gossipy, condescending behavior to be denigrating to the human experience. I find the male rapist, child molesting, animal-fucking, pimping, trafficking, human enslaving, murdering, serial killing, nuclear-weapon-making, war-mongering behavior of men to be rather denigrating to the human experience too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:28 PM
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It only gets better when you stop avoiding fear and start pursuing growth. That's an incredibly empty and simplistic platitutude, again tinged with victim-blaming. No amount of "growth-pursuing" changes the threat of the thing external to the victim when it's still present. Prejudice does not always result in abuse, violence or mistreatment toward the demographic, but it can in fact lead to a very useful heightened form of vigilance. I am extremely wary of men, and I avoid them in public when an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:07 PM
0

"So what if it's hard?" "fix your shit", "doesn't mean you aren't the source of your own problems" - Why are you more focussed on PTSD-riddled victims reversing their prejudices as a result of severe, prolonged and sustained trauma, than you are focussed on the actual core issue of the prevalence of actively violent people? Victim-blaming is also a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:27 PM
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based on your other responses i'll go ahead and just pose the question here... do you think a person can harbor deep prejudice towards another group and never act against the interests/wellbeing of that group? For women, mostly (but not always), yes. For men, mostly (but not always), no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:14 PM
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No one stated what an "acceptable level" of prejudice was - just that repeated trauma can result in it. No one said that it isn't the responsibility of the victim to "fix" their trauma, just that even with dedicated work and therapies, prejudice can be extremely difficult to unpick.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:06 PM
0

"A thing happened to you a lot so that means it's all your fault" is not a logical statement based in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:48 PM
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No one claimed that victims are "infallible". No one justified abuse resulting from prejudice. No one justified trauma as any kind of excuse for then going on to abuse or otherwise mistreat others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:47 PM
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Lol, how long have you got?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:25 PM
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Hatred of an entire gender doesn't just stem from being sexually or romantically rejected by them, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:02 PM
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That makes no sense. It ignores the people who have had the misfortune of being on the recieving end of abuse and trauma from people of the same gender repeatedly and some ever since birth / childhood. Deep, lasting prejudices can be rooted in repeated trauma from persons who fit into the same demographic over a long period of time. Forms of such prejudice can be extremely difficult to pick apart even with dedicated therapies and work on part of the victim. What you're saying is the definition o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:01 PM
1

"It's all mummy's fault!" So grown men don't even want to take personal responsibility for themselves as adults. Atrocious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:03 AM
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Men are overwhelmingly and starkly responsible for the vast, vast majority of all the worlds evils, including violence, rape, child molestation, human sex trafficking, pimping, enslavement, and warmongering. It's not a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:00 AM
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Because whenever a woman tells you the truth, just say "hamster" and it'll all go away!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 01:19 PM
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Oh god I love how you talk about how much demand there is for women in porn and sex work in the same post you talk about "men do more dangerous jobs". So tell me, just how many women in the porn and sex industry are raped, pimped, trafficked, coerced, forced into prostitution by poverty?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 01:17 PM
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Women's problems: Their tits are too big in video games. They don't score as many top billings in Hollywood films as men. They have low self esteem (self-reported). Mothers have a more difficult time getting hired than fathers. (your own source states that there's 'an almost complete absence of discrimination against highly qualified women without children') You missed a few little things out: Rape Murder Child molestation Human trafficking and slavery FGM Domestic abuse Sexual harassment Men's …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 01:10 PM
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Rarely do I ever see someone of above average intelligence who is a player. Read that again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 08:46 AM
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I was always told as a girl that you shouldn't carry weapons on yourself because they could get taken away and used against you. This has been my thought process too and is why I wouldn't carry something like a knife. A man attacking me could overpower me and use it against me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 10:52 AM
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That's total strawman babble.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 01:25 PM
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Another great example of male inability to care about women as anything other than a sex object for his own desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 06:57 AM
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women knowingly decide to share the top 20% of men throughout their 20s who mistreat them Women do not knowingly enter into relationships with men who mistreat us. Men do not attract women by treating them badly, that is, unless the woman had been cruelly abused by her father as a child, subsequently imprinting on her psyche a conflation of abusive behavior with her definition of love. Of course, you don't need me to tell you how horrifically common that complex is. As men display to the letter …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 03:04 PM
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Sex is one of the biggest things a woman offers in a relationship. So if you want to exaggerate that into “disposable sex objects,” that’s on you. This is saying a lot about the kind of person you are. Men who just want to use a woman for sex can be great at adopting a bullshit facade that lasts long enough to use the woman for his intended purposes. Men who prey on the youngest women in the dating market who lack experience prefer easier game; obviously women who have already fallen prey to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 02:36 PM
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If men just want to treat women like disposable sex objects / a bunch of holes that exist solely for their pleasure, and then they have the frightful revelation that other men have left trauma and pain behind in that woman, they tend to get angry at the woman for having endured that trauma, rather than the atrocity of the man for having caused it in the first place. Unless you're privileged as shit and lead a completely boring, uneventful life totally devoid of any pain or experience, people don…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:38 PM
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Shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:14 PM
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If this doesn't perfectly explain in detail the extent of just how men are horrific and traumatizingly atrocious beings, then I don't know what does. That you're intellectually capable of enough awareness to appreciate what men leave in the wake of their destruction, while yet still being self-centered enough to go back to the needs of your own dick, is the icing on top of the cake. The day that regular men have access to realistic sexbots can't come a day too soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:06 PM
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The UK. One of my exes was chased down the street by a gang of men threatening him for no reason. Another one of my exes was beaten by a large gang and ended up with a shattered nose. Both men were under 5'8, idk if that has anything to do with it, but I assume it does. They were gentle looking men, too. The latter had lasting trauma. People get attacked all the time unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 10:34 AM
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I don't live in a place where guns are legal. Height is a deterrent to being the target of an attack in the first place. It's better to not be targetted in the first place than to end up in a fight at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 10:31 AM
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It's more about how men actually go about picking other male targets to begin with, and more men seem to judge based on height than anything else. I think the 6'2 man who doesn't lift would easily have a much lesser chance of being the chosen target of attacks in the first place, than the 5'7 guy who works out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 10:24 AM
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If I walk up to a lady and tell her she has a nice body Yeah don't do this. Thinking someone might be a rapist for propositioning you is bordering on mental illness Women being told that they're "crazy" for fearing men for their actual observable behavior and maltreatment of women is old news.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 10:04 AM
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Tell that to men, not me. The whole "size intimidation" is definitely a thing, without a doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 10:01 AM
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Oh look it's a man more concerned with telling women they're retarded for fearing rape than they are angry toward other men for being rapists. Shove it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 05:16 AM
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Congrats on the reading comprehension skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 09:12 PM
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overt sexual attention makes me think that the guy is a rapist sizing up a potential victim. Same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 08:41 PM
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Do you feel validated through social media 'likes' or 'swipes'? I think everyone does. I've always felt validated through likes to varying degrees, but the nature of it has changed enormously over the years. I feel validated by likes on my artwork and music mainly, followed by likes on any political posts, or random jokes, memes I post, and not likes on selfies. I don't even post selfies to social media anymore. Do you have sex with new men or FWBs to feel validated? Absolutely not and I never h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 08:40 PM
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Why is safety not on your list? Purely instinctive, physical attraction aside, safety is surely a sensible, logical reason. If men are happy to declare themselves the stronger sex and women the weaker sex, then surely it should just naturally follow that women benefit much more from being with a taller, more intimidating-looking man. Speaking as a woman who dated shorter men in the past, and is now with an averagely tall man, you feel a hell of a lot safer if you're walking home at night in a da…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 08:15 PM
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For the reasons I stated above.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 07:55 PM
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Younger women are less experienced, less jaded, less discerning, and more naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:21 PM
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Absolutely this. When it's a man using female objectification in his movie or TV show or whatever to attract male viewers, men just sit back and enjoy it - no issues there, and if a woman complains about it "she's just jealous". But when it's a woman raking in cash on OnlyFans, then she's a massive slut and she's "exploiting male sexuality" and then it's suddenly a bad thing. Men have been enjoying profitting from female sexual objectification and taking as much credit as they can for pimping us…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:34 PM
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My god thank you for injecting some sense into this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 09:32 AM
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This is overly dramatic and hyperbolic. In reality, most women in porn are making thousands of dollars in a consensual agreement that they agreed to. Hahahahahahahaha You sir are very, very, horribly wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 09:28 AM
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Porn prevents rape You are misinformed. Porn is filled with rape, trafficking, coersion and abuse of all kinds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 09:22 AM
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Men complaining that they're aren't getting pussy, sex, love, marriage, our undying love and youth, etc, shit they aren't entitled to in the least, and then complaining that women are entitled. Men complaining that their tax money goes toward mothers and their children because "WAAAAAAAH sHe fUcKeD ChAd!" and having the gall to talk about it like they wouldn't fling a human baby over a rainbow in a heartbeat if it meant he'd become Chad. Men speaking with the utmost hatred and venom about women …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:15 PM
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Adult women having consensual sex that results in unwanted pregnancies/abortions is just viscerally disgusting. It's a childish thing to happen to someone that claims to be an adult. Are you just as mad about all the men out there having consensual sex that results in unwanted pregnancy? In case you forgot, pregnancy requires two people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 02:50 PM
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You have an extremely strange, very black-and-white way of looking at all this, as displayed by your inability to discuss totally normal, everyday, healthy sex lives among totally average people, without resorting to these utterly bizarre comparisons and hypotheticals involving minors having sex with "a million" people (?!) and branding men with totally average sex lives as "fuckbois". If literally any totally sexually average man with some sexual experience to you makes him a "fuckboi" in your …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:48 AM
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I've already explained to you at length why it's a red flag. Your bizarre, off-topic, totally inconsequential ramble about 12 year old girls access to sex and "moist masturbation devices" was one of the most disgusting things I've had the displeasure to read in quite some time. I can only assume you're resorting to shock factor at this point, being as revoltion aside, your thoughts on child rape (let's be clear here: children do not "get laid") have nothing to do with the topic we're discussing.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:17 AM
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I mean, I'm 33 years old and if I were single, my dating age range for men is like 33 - 40+. I myself have been with 5 men, the majority of them being long term relationships. I want to be with someone who very much enjoys sex and has some experience under his belt. A man aged 33 - 40+ with no sexual experience would definitely NOT have a very promising track record there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 08:51 PM
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I wouldn't say "high" n-count in men is important. There's so much context that is currently missing in our discussion that's very important. Let's say I'm 18 and I meet an 18 year old guy who is a virgin. His virginity doesn't necessarily ring any alarm bells because we're both teenagers still. Let's say I'm 30 and I meet a guy who is still a virgin at 30. Totally different situation. How / why has he gone all of this time with zero sexual experience? Maybe it helps to compare this to jobs. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 08:38 PM
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People are born virgins, shit doesn't lead them to being virgins. People are born babies. We're obviously clearly talking about adults here. What you're communicating with your position, whether you recognize it or not, is that virginity equals bad, because there must have been a reason for being a virgin. He has no agency, he cannot possibly be desiring to keep his virginity, nope, it must be he failed mate selection. Most men don't desire to keep their virginity, though, do they? Let's be hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 08:21 PM
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Sorry. How you're extrapolating any of that from my response makes just no sense to me at all. Nobody said anything about men's value being dependent on how many women he beds. I think you may have misunderstood what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 08:02 PM
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Generally there is something else about them an that is a red flag, which then leads to him being a virgin. Absolutely this. ^ Correlation doesn't equal causation. It isn't the virginity itself which is turn-off, but rather the shit which led him to being a virgin in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:34 PM
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There are clearly roles in any situation/scenario and it varies. You can't just expect every person to multitask similar quantities of similar things to keep everything balanced just because you have an inferiority complex. All of this is weirdly irrelivant to the discussion. What does an "inferiority complex" have to do with anything in all of this? Did my post make you feel personally attacked or something? Nobody even said anything about multi-tasking chores alongside anything else, either. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:14 PM
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Please, whatever you do, don't base your view of men as a whole on what men on this sub have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 08:31 AM
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Men who "help" with chores? The wording of this is odd to me. It implies that there is a "main chore-do'er", and the man assists that person. I think I'd have to get used to seriously, tragically bottom-of-the-barrel behavior from a man to get sexually aroused by him doing chores. Chores are a given thing that every adult has a responsibility to do, no matter if a man is "high value", "low value", or whatever. Unless he's a literal vegetable, he should be doing chores. This kind of reminds me of…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 08:30 AM
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My negative view is based on numerous factors unrelated to men I have chosen as partners. I'm happy to observe and critique my own personal choices where partners have been concerned, and infer from those choices how my future choices ought to be made. My negative view of men is based on how men I don't know, who don't know me, or should even have anything to do with me, have treated me. This is my main point of contention. I am fearful of men based on decades of harassment and assault, ranging …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:28 AM
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Does it make you sad because you fear for her safety (e.g. that your daughter will be pressured into sex acts she doesn't want to be a part of, and / or be victim of assault or rape?) Does it make you sad that might simply enjoy her youth and sexuality, choosing sexual partners as she wishes? There a number of different ways to interpret what about this actually makes you sad. if you are dating a sorority girl after she's done with college, expect a partner count of 20 on average. Makes me very …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 10:46 AM
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Imagine actually thinking like this. Holy shit. If you go around justifying thought processes like this and still think you're being rejected for your looks, you are sorely mistaken!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:21 AM
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This is a projection. Oh no it bloody well isn't. She's being completely honest. No beings on Earth are more violent and vitriolic than Homo Sapiens Sapiens females being addressed directly with truths that they don’t want to hear. Holy fucking Christ. A woman was honest with you, you then have the audacity to tell her she's "projecting", and then, to top it all off, you whinge about how "Homo Sapien females" can't handle the truth! Amazing. As for men, you are more likely to incur our wrath wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:22 PM
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HAHAHAHAHA! Did you seriously just do that? It's adorable that you're lumping studies about tattooed women in with the nobility of the entirety of "Science" as though this is under the same bracket as the people studying cancer and life-or-death shit that actually matters. Sure, "science". Oh wait your thread just got deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:48 AM
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Oh no? I can't imagine what it takes to honestly care so much about something like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:29 AM
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I've never wanted kids. 33 and still absolutely no desire to reproduce.I used to fantasize about the idea of marriage, but the older I got, the more of a bad idea it all seemed. After some failed long-term relationships, I started to see marriage as basically "a very expensive way of breaking up". I don't see why people should suffer more than is necessary, for something already difficult. I'm happiest just putting all of my effort into making the relationship worthwhile and being happy together…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:14 AM
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For example, women having casual sex is now celebrated as "sex positive" and it's become socially unacceptable to criticize or shame them for doing it. This didn't used to be the case as little as 10 years ago. 10+ years ago we were being shamed for not being slutty enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:27 AM
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Fair points. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:20 PM
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Hey, I'm simply going by what men's behavior has shown here in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:18 PM
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No, women respond to emotional needs not physical needs. Money and status generally fill the same emotional need for women. I mean, as a woman it's still just funny to me that there's a sub-section of men out there who genuinely, seriously believe that they know us better than ourselves and have the capacity to speak for us. Are no women qualified to speak for themselves because some men have witnessed the behavior of some women not aligning with what they've been saying? How many women do you b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:19 PM
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Women who prefer non-muscular men generally fit into one of either two categories What are those categories? Money or status right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 04:56 PM
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How do you know I'm not? I'm entirely congruent. Everything I've said here is 100% in alignment with my behavior and the reality of my life. That hasn't stopped men trying to inform me of my own tastes and behavior. When you're on the recieving end of people you don't know and who don't know you, telling you who you are and what you like and what you want, it's really hard not to find it just hilariously nonsensical and presumptuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:41 PM
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See this is the kind of behavior I'm referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:36 PM
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Cheers. Noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:35 PM
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But if a woman is like "dude I'm literally in a relationship / having sex with a guy who doesn't conform to what you're telling me I desire", how do guys think they can tell women what they're attracted to even when their own sexual / romantic history says otherwise? It makes zero sense. I just don't get how a woman here can say "I prefer non-muscular men", and guys here will be like "NO U LIKE MUSCLES BECAUSE I SAID SO".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:35 PM
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This is all totally fair enough. Thank you. View changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:21 PM
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They absolutely factor in nuance and it becomes very complex. I have as yet seen zero nuance or complexity regarding RP beliefs, so I'll believe it when I see it. If anything, it is overt and aggressive in its simplicity and lack of deviation from its rules and terminologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:20 PM
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I’m genuinely confused by the point this post is trying to make. It feels like it’s “redpill seems to accurately explain patterns in heterosexuality but fails to account for the underlying psychology and isn’t a perfect map of reality.” Pretty much. SO many RPers here seem to believe that their RP beliefs are 100% representative and descriptive of 100% of people, especially when it comes to women's tastes in male physicality (e.g. most notably: musculature; jaw bone shapes; height). The amount o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:14 PM
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the 0.1% You think the percentage is that low?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:10 PM
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Because there's a reality outside of RP thinking that doesn't conform to RP rules and standards. Every example of sexual and / or romantic success between men and women does not conform to RP rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:07 PM
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The Wall may as well not even exist for many women just because they looks-match and marry up with other overweight, out of shape men who also let themselves go. There are masses of married, overweight women post-wall who don't look anything even close to Demi Moore. The Wall can only really be relevant if the woman wants a man who is in much better condition than she is, but at least where I live, that isn't the norm and most people are pretty well-matched.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 08:34 AM
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I'm a woman and I find the 1st pic of the bigger woman way sexier and now I'm worried I have high T.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 02:47 PM
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That got weird fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 01:40 PM
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I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:19 AM
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Yeah you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:19 AM
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Yeah I can't argue with any of that tbh. You are speaking the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:18 AM
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Kind of a side point here, but have you ever seen the show "My 600-Lb Life"? The number of morbidly obese men 600+ lbs in relationships and marriages may surprise you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 10:11 AM
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...?! I don't even know what to say to this nonsensical gibbering guff anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:08 AM
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Woman: I'm not into muscular men. Man: tHis PreTenTiOus AtTiTude! yOu ArEnt SpeCial!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 08:53 AM
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Criminalizing adultery doesn't stop adultery.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 08:16 AM
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Yes that all sounds horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 08:12 AM
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Idk ask your government? I didn't make the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 06:14 PM
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I had the misfortune of living with one and knowing quite a few personally. All of them were horrible. Sure, probably a coincidence, but they all were vain and aggressive, as though they were drunk on testosterone. It was repulsive. Everything you said is nonsense. I'm not attracted to muscular men. Stop trying to tell me what I'm attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 06:03 PM
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And sexless men shouldn't be granted tax breaks because they're bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 06:01 PM
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I was referring to taxpayers in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:56 PM
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Sexless man or not, we're all "good lil beta bux" for each other where tax paying is concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:49 PM
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You should write erotica.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:25 PM
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I'm just not attracted to it at all. Most men I have known personally who have been work-out buffs were vain, ego-driven assholes, which I guess has put me off. I'm just not a fan of the look itself really, either. Each to their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:39 PM
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I believe everyone deserves access to food and shelter, no matter whether I or you like or condone their choices or not. I don't believe that sexless men deserve special tax breaks purely because no one wants to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:23 PM
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I did say children didn't i? You said "tingle troubles". Illustrating that these children are the results of women's bad decisions doesn't have anything to do with my penis or any other. You called children - who are innocent and totally blameless in all this, whether you think well of their mothers or not - "tingle troubles", as part of the discussion we're having about sexless men getting special treatment and tax exemption, for no good reason other than they're deeply undesirable. Food and sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:06 PM
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Oh, you mean a human being, then. You're literally minimizing the value of the lives of human children to make the wants of your penis seem more important. Basic rights to food and shelter will always hold more value over whether or not some men can get sex or not. That's why our tax money will always go to struggling mothers and children, while men who can't find a willing woman on the planet to have sex won't get special allowances or tax breaks. Sex is not a basic right. Food and shelter are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 02:51 PM
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Wtf is a tingle trouble?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 02:40 PM
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Women are not perpetual victims. Neither are unwanted, undesirable men with who can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 02:38 PM
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And? Is there anything morally wrong with money going to single mothers and the children who have been abondoned, abused, and / or otherwise neglected by their fathers?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 02:21 PM
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Mothers are the ones who bear children, so yes, okay. They aren't the only ones who benefit, however. I was just giving an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 02:16 PM
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Who deserves to hoard excess wealth in the same world in which people are dying of want? Especially just because they're unwanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 02:06 PM
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Fair enough. Each to her own. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:50 PM
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How would you even be able to morally live with yourself? "Still no one wants me, so yes, I definitely deserve to treat myself to all these games and crap so that struggling family down the road who have nothing to live on slowly starve. I'm sexually frustrated, after all, so this is definitely fair and right." Why do you deserve this whole set-up again?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:44 PM
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Every man who gets sex / LTR is not muscular. Most men who get sex / LTR aren't muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:37 PM
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Even if a woman has a thing for muscular men, how attractive is to her if his face, skin and teeth are all horrible? Face, skin and teeth matter so much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:18 PM
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Muscular men turn me off completely. I see big muscles on a man and I see ego and vanity. Total turn-off. I'm confident enough that the average, healthy, fit man is still strong enough to protect me without him having to obsess over bulking up at the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:10 PM
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I've never even heard these weird, bizarre "attraction classes" you keep bringing up, and I've already made it extremely clear that I don't condone them for either gender. I'm going to stop here because we're just going around in circles at this point and it isn't leading anywhere productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:03 PM
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Plunge untold numbers of vulnerable people into abject poverty so that men who can't get laid can buy more shit to fill the void?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:51 PM
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And be specific, especially in terms of how your solution could be implemented. And whether you consider your solution to be ethical. Hoo boy this part is being missed out by a whole lot of people in this thread so far!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:48 PM
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Lol, what? No you didn't. I literally just asked a totally reasonable, logical question. Do you not want to think about how your suggestions would be realistically implemented? edit - A downvote for asking the exact same thing OP did: And be specific, especially in terms of how your solution could be implemented. And whether you consider your solution to be ethical. Seems I struck a nerve.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:36 PM
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Criminalize adultery. When this has happened historically, how has that actually panned out? Criminalizing adultery doesn't stop people fucking who they want even when people know they could be tortured and killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:31 PM
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OMG! Actually spat out my coffee at this, lmao. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 09:04 AM
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Wow you got so much shit for this, how dare you be so sexually desirable to men at THIRTY TWO years of post-WALL age! :O /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 09:02 AM
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As with any relationship issue, I would want the root cause of the issue to be looked at and a solution to be worked on. So - Why was the attraction lost? Have I changed in any way physically or in any other way to cause the loss of attraction? Unless my partner didn't know why attraction was lost at all, if the issue is fixable and they still loved me, I wouldn't really take it too badly. If the cause was something like I gained or lost weight, I'd just work on that. If they simply lost all att…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:56 AM
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The reverse isn't happening, though. Neither are happening, or ever would. But no, I don't think that should ever happen. I didn't condone YOU getting "attraction classes", and I don't think the same should happen to women, either. Attraction is a basic right, but I also don't think it'd work anyway. It's like that religious gay conversion stuff: unethical and useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:46 AM
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Trust me, if I lived in a world where actual healthy weight women were glorified (neither underweight OR overweight), I would love that. I don't agree that there should be pressure on men to be attracted to anything they aren't attracted to. You being told that you need to find a particular kind of women attractive is messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:11 AM
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Women are comparable to slave owners? I think that's going rather far.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:07 AM
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Perhaps it is because I myself am a woman, but I just really don't see the havoc women are wrecking on society at anything comparable to the rate of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:59 PM
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I had Anorexia Nervosa myself in my teens, and no I don't live under a rock. Perhaps this is a location thing? Where I live that was definitely not a thing. If anything, it was "men don't want skin and bones!" and "men like women with meat on them". The blame was put more on the media at the time for glorifying underweight models.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:58 PM
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What should we do about rates of male criminality?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:33 PM
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Women do not "choose" to be anorexic. Anorexia Nervosa is a mental illness, not a choice. And I can't recall a single time where men were blamed for the condition in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:30 PM
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How does every single women who gets pregnant know 100% that the man who impregnated her isn't going to become abusive to her or leave her? Disloyal men exist. And how can every woman who gets pregnant guaruntee the financial support of the man she bore children with? Every woman who gets pregnant does not happily aim for child support as some kind of fucked up goal to get other people to pay for her and her child. It's there to protect some of the most vulnerable women and children in society, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:29 PM
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Women and their sexuality are controlled by the government and they are punished for disobeying? Sounds very Handmaid's Tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:24 PM
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Sure. Don't forget, when women are at a disadvantage and needed to rely on men for income, there was an issue because men refused to marry women who weren't thin and attractive. Remember that? We, as a society, decided to control what boys would find attractive. Remember the "it's what's on the inside that counts" slogan, and "all women are beautiful" bullshit? That's an attempt at controlling what men found attractive . In my part of the world, I remember between 10-12, every year there was an …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:19 PM
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Men have to pay child support for children they didn't want, therefore women ought to be responsible for the character and sexual success of men who can't find sex/LTRs? Sorry, I'm not following your line of reasoning here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:16 PM
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Then there is the issue of women who choose to not get into relationships at all if those relationships aren't with a 8-10 man, and the response to that is taxation. I don't know, maybe any woman 30 and older who is not married gets a surtax or something. Punish women with high standards, okay. I'd love to see the prototype letter that would be issued out to these women. How would it read? Also how would something like that even be practically implemented and enforced? The government would need …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:08 PM
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Sorry, I'm not understanding your point. I don't think men SHOULD be held financially responsible for other womens children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:44 PM
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What about classes for young girls about what an attractive man should look like to them? Should we be trying to control who people find attractive? I don't think young women have any issue deciding for themselves who they want to be with. The classes I mentioned would obviously not be forced upon them against their will; it would be entirely voluntary. I think such an opportunity could benefit them, but I don't see what young women would get out of a class trying to "convert" their tastes into …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:42 PM
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Oh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 09:59 PM
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I think someone can be physically hot while also being unattractive, if that makes sense? Like you can acknowledge that someone is physically just factually extremely good looking, at the same time as not being at all attracted to them, or even repulsed by them, on account of their character. It doesn't change the fact they look hot, but it definitely changes how desirable they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:33 PM
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It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:01 PM
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I'm in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:00 PM
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The social skills of men who hate us for x reason aren't our responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 03:07 PM
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The way you talk about assault is giving away quite a lot about the way you personally view it. Note that also the way non-offending men joke, downplay, or otherwise minimize sexual assault also contributes toward our unfavorable view of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 03:05 PM
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What's the other side?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 03:02 PM
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Since when? Birth? Childhood? Adolesence? Their 20s+? I think ascertaining when the neglect started would be absolutely crucial.Many incels display behaviors similar to those found in people with Aspergers (and likely many actually are on the spectrum to varying degrees), but many of which seem more akin with perhaps severe neglect: some perhaps just literally never learned to socialize because they were never taught. In any case, I think classes should have variation according to life timelines…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 02:57 PM
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Then they're fucked I guess. They're done. I can't think of any other possible soltution, as social skills and / or emotional intelligence seem to generally be the no.1 things incels have in common with each other holding them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 02:22 PM
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Some guy slapped your ass in a party when you were 19 yo ? Okay, pieces of shit exist. If that counts in "being sexually assaulted in your lifetime", then there's no surprise to why 100% of women have been sexually assaulted. Then it also stands to reason that it shouldn't be surprising if a significant amount of women think men are trash either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 02:10 PM
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most women just dont make a big deal out of it Is it not a big deal to be raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 02:09 PM
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My thoughts? Those are only the ones that were reported. I think it's higher than that. Most women I know have been assaulted or raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 01:49 PM
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I don't know. I've never spoken to any women about this, it's just never come up as a thing for me in my chats with my sister or friends. I can only speak for myself and I would absolutely never lie to a guy about something like this. I expect honesty from him when speaking about sexual history (STDs included), so it's only fair to give exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 01:03 PM
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Absolutely not! If some guys I don't even know, somewhere in my very distant future, turn their noses up at me for enjoying the fruits of my youth and expects me to have sacrificed all that sexual energy of my youth for him, he's already hilariously not worth it. If someone would have said this to me when I was a blonde, thin, 21 year old getting high and drunk in the English countryside in summer while enjoying a small orgy, I think I'd have laughed so hard at the idea of this. I have been tota…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 12:56 PM
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Classes for these men on social skills and emotional intelligence are the only way, imo. A lot of incels who find it impossible to find a partner focus their attentions on the wrong things, usually the typical RP "looks/money/status/trying to become a 'Chad'" shit, awful PUA-style bootcamp bs, and their loneliness only increases (look at someone like Elliot Rodger who arguably had looks, money and status but was still incel af) alongside their resentment of women for still not being interested. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 12:01 PM
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Yeah that just makes me feel ill tbh. Specifically this There’s a dark recess of many women’s minds that requires significant male dominance to get off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 09:31 AM
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Most women want to be dominated in bed regardless of what they spew into feminist blogs. You have to factor into this how many women do things they actually don't want to do because they've been taught / pressured into behaving in ways that don't correlate with what they want to do, but to please their partners that they know have been raised on internet porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 09:18 AM
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I feel like so many people who post here never left their home and saw what I'd call "the average couple".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 09:10 AM
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I think then you would need to reframe them as both being problems rather than both strategies then perhaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 09:05 PM
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Oh look, it's a man telling me how women think and feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 08:39 PM
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The Madonna/Whore complex seem more like a personal problem led by the mans' subconscious, not at all a "strategy" of which he is consciously aware, being as such men have an inability to maintain sexual arousal within a committed, loving relationship and aren't necessarily happy with that. Some of course seek therapy for it because the disconnect makes it hard for them to value something they know to be valuable. Freud described it this way: "Where such men love they have no desire and where th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 08:24 PM
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"And yet, enough WOmen don't care, at least enough for it not to matter to enough MEN who HIRE PROSTITUTES." That's how silly you sound. What's silly about it? Enough men don't care about women having had some casual sex in the past. It's generally accepted in this day and age that young people enjoy sex and not all of it is necessarily in LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 03:07 PM
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Generally speaking, female feminsts are afraid of what men DO to them. Generally speaking, TRP men are angry about what women won't GIVE to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 02:33 PM
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Quite the strawman being as no one said that women are incapable of rape toward men or that only men are rapists. Bizarre to demonize women for simply enjoying casual sex when men are out there shoving enough stuff up their own assholes to warrant being taken to hospital to get it all pulled out. It isn't exactly as though men hold all the cards where things like "honor" and "dignity" are concerned, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 02:18 PM
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Sadly, women have worked hard to get rid of “awful” things like dignity, kindness and honor. You're saying all this like men out there aren't raping, assaulting, molesting children, raping animals, or trying to screw anything they can fit their dick into since time immemorial. But no, women are attempting to rid the earth of dignity, kindness and honor with their heathen, pleasure-seeking ways, enjoying casual sex with consenting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 02:02 PM
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What do you expect men to do? How shall we react to your increasing shallowness? Looksmax, get lean, build muscle, reject everyone, go to Asia and start visiting prostitutes? Maybe invest in sex toys?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 01:55 PM
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Secondly men are significantly less interested in committng to women who are into casual sex. And yet, enough men don't care, at least enough for it not to matter to enough women who have had casual sex. You get dick on tap without the problems with disease, dangers of being assaulted, becoming an emotionally stunted and fucking up your ability to have a happy family. Why do you believe that none of those dangers apply to committed relationships or marriages? The issues you listed aren't magical…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 01:47 PM
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Do you still love each other? And are you both prepared to work on the problem and find a solution together? The answers to those questions make the difference between staying and leaving imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 07:00 AM
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Most of the world is not PPD, the average guy doesn’t have a bias against women. Most people are biased against women. Stupid to think that history books have literally downplayed the accomplishments of women in some crazy scheme to push a narrative that most people don’t even think about. The accomplishments of women have been downplayed. That isn't an opinion. Just because "most people" don't think about a given thing, doesn't mean it isn't true. Men have either mocked, belittled, and objectif…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 06:54 AM
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I thought the same but tbf the responses from men on this thread are actually pretty surprising. A lot are saying they wouldn't like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 10:07 PM
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Would you be happy to be with a 4.5-5/10 woman? Basically would you be happy with your equivalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 02:49 PM
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Men smashing a house before it's getting demolished isn't exactly an act of "violence" though, is it? It isn't like she was in any sort of danger, or at risk of any harm like OP is implying women like. Being turned on by displays of the physical strength of men is totally different than being turned on by literal fear and being scared.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 02:14 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 01:50 PM
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Anything that innately causes fear (which they find arousing) and puts them in their place. We don't find it arousing. Take the women here for example (and especially those at ppf, fds and similar): they seem to really, really, DEEPLY despise men for their ability to dominate and scare them. We don't enjoy being scared. They often link stats on how violent men are and how easily they can hurt themselves. By all means, shouldn’t women be attracted to this fact? Nope. They often link stats on how …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 01:12 PM
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This exactly sums up my feelings too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 09:47 AM
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would you prefer being able to 1) attract some people you like and some people you dislike (so, some wanted and some unwanted attention), or 2) not being able to attract anyone (no wanted attention, nor any unwanted attention)? Oh absolutely I would prefer option 1. Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:23 PM
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I had long blue hair when I met my boyfriend 5 years ago. He really liked it. I wanted it to be waist length but it stopped growingbecause it was so damaged due to the bleach, so I went back to my natural hair colour a couple years ago. I think my boyfriend (like me) likes quite long hair, so I just focussed on getting it healthy so I could maintain a nice length.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:15 PM
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I'm 33f. He's 43m. What I bring: - Sharing and expressing active interest in his interests, passions, goals, and hobbies. - Being a shoulder to cry on, and providing comfort, compassion and reassurance when he's struggling. - Not expect him to be perfect, or hold him to unrealistic standards. - Respect his romantic / sexual past and history - value his past as a part of what made him the man I love. - Making effort with befriending his family and friends and respecting his social group. - Respec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:59 PM
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Because many men don't think like the men on this sub and actually couldn't give a flying fuck about a 30+ woman's sexual history unless it's exceptionally unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 03:51 PM
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If you see it as a bad thing, sure. I don't see fault anywhere. It's how we're built, you don't have to like it. You don't have to agree with me. Irrelevant. I don't have to subscribe to your moral compass I know you don't. Again, if you don't like my post, and how I view men, that's fine. I'm not forcing you to agree with me? You don't have to agree with everything you see on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 05:19 PM
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- Sharing and expressing active interest in his interests, passions, goals, and hobbies. - Being a shoulder to cry on, and providing comfort, compassion and reassurance when he's struggling. - Not expect him to be perfect, or hold him to unrealistic standards. - Respect his romantic / sexual past and history - value his past as a part of what made him the man I love. - Making effort with befriending his family and friends and respecting his social group. - Respect his need for space and give him…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 03:48 PM
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Sounds to me like you're living in a fantasy world! I live in a fantasy world where war, rape, crime, and murder exist? Okay. These are part of nature. *Male nature. You sound like one of those people that want to live in a perfect world according to you. I didn't even go into the kind of world I want to live in. I just answered the question. Apparently your qualms aren't with men dominating the societal hierarchy, but with mother nature making women easy to dominate by men by not giving them th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:33 PM
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There's attractive people being attractive, but if your definition of who you actually be with is limited exclusively to women under 25, I mean, that's a pretty shitty situation for the man himself to be in, let alone the poor woman who will inevitably age out of her looks in the end anyway. I know a lot of men here don't like to believe it, but beautiful young women, as well as aging, older women, can find men who love her for more than her looks, and love her well into her old age. Keeping hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:23 AM
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^ Absolutely this! Well said!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:34 AM
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There is nothing wrong with a 25 year old woman, that had sex with 5 men, over the course of (for example) 7 years of dating men. But that doesn't mean men wouldn't naturally prefer her being a virgin. FACT: Men don't like the idea of other men doing sexual acts to/with you. It's disgusting and none of us want to think about it. There's a difference between not feeling particularly great about thinking about your girlfriend having sex with other men / exes, and wanting a virgin though, isn't the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:28 AM
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It's been over 50 years now since women got equal rights and opportunities. Yet it's still men who create everything. And men are still raping, robbing, murdering, making weapons, bombs, and blowing up entire countries. It's almost as if you're making up retarded conspiracy theories to excuse your own inadequacies. Because when men lack the ability to enforce inferiority onto women, they'll come out with manipulative little gems like this built on the assumption that any women already personally…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:08 AM
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The only reason men "created everything" is because they made damn sure that women couldn't do jack shit aside from be their fucktoys, wives and child-bearers. Everything I wrote about the blight of male violence, crime, rape, and destruction still stands. Despite that, of course, we're only supposed to talk about how wonderful and great men are at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:48 AM
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For as long as they get to tell us who we are and what we want, it's all fine, but the second we start actually stating openly what we want, we're either wrong, or we're bitches / sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:36 AM
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That you're calling it an "argument" is redundant beyond question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:56 PM
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Actually, nurses would be at the lowest risk, since they operate in an environment which is constantly aware of the threat and take extra preventive measures. That's just not true now, though, is it? Plus you need to factor in mental health in this, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:24 PM
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It isn't like we have much of a choice for much of history on account of male oppression. Men have also made sure that examples of female success and brilliance have been downplayed as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:19 PM
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Imagine this guy gets really ill and wakes up in hospital with some awesome female nurse saving his life. Smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:16 PM
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The worlds biggest issues are single-handedly caused by men. War. Rape. Murder. Crime. Everything the most fucked up in this world is caused by men. Even just reading comments from men here whinging about why they hate women for reasons like oh, we lie, we're spoiled, entitled, and (the best one) we enjoy sex, oh, or we rudely withhold sex and our bodies from them, (but of course they aren't the selfish ones), fuels my dislike for them even more. While men moan about the selfishness and entitlem…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:05 PM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 11:30 AM
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Address the TOPIC. Don't rant at the poster because you have a personal problem with their former profession. I don't care about what you think about sex workers. This topic isn't about me or sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 09:54 AM
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I tell you my personal preferences as a woman do not match with what you, a man, are telling me, and you tell me I'm wrong. That alone makes this a waste of time. I then give you a study outlining in detail the variation in women's sexual preferences that you've probably not even bothered to read. So yes, this is very much pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 06:40 PM
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Read this and be quiet: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40750-017-0070-3
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 06:24 PM
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Notice how you're literally telling me I'm a liar about my own preferences. If you're trying to tell me I'm incorrect about my own personal sexual tastes, why should I entertain you any further? I don't have any documents proving my relationship and sexual history to give to you, therefore I'm done with your nonsense, thanks. If you don't want to believe me, fine. Don't. I'm not going to force you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 06:15 PM
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Sorry, I guess I'm just a filthy dirty little Chad-humping liar then! :) Thank you for helping me see that I've been wrong about my own self all my life! I have been truly blessed by an expert on Womankind! Enjoy your day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 05:51 PM
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Your entire comment can be summed up as "NUH UH!" Yes, it can be summed up that way, because again: You. Are. Wrong. You're so close to getting it. You didnt backup your claim. You want photographic evidence and a written document describing every man I've been / slept with because you can't take my word for it? What do you find attractive? Guys who are nice? No How much do you think you can actually get away with telling people that their lived experience didn't happen / is wrong? When women sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 09:04 AM
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And a lot of them aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 08:43 AM
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The idea that women are some kind of hivemind, is what's anti-science. It also goes against psychology. None of that carries with it any form of implication, direct or otherwise, that humans aren't animals, or that we are "mysterious divine beings", and that you draw that line of logic says a lot more about the way YOUR mind works than anything else. Also, you're literally talking to a woman who is telling you she doesn't find alpha / dominant men / Chad types hot at all. If you want to try to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:11 PM
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I mean if you're into it I'm not going to talk you out of it, but alpha/bad boys are definitely not to every womans taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:55 PM
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It makes more sense for women to chase men who are "rapey" dominant men, and it's a sign of trauma at a young age that a woman could prefer to go after shy men who respect women? This makes no sense at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 11:39 AM
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Who said all you care about is pleasure in the things I noted above? There are serious benefits to remaining with one romantic and sexual partner that you wouldn't get from pleasure-seeking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 11:04 AM
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Retroactive jealousy bred from insecurity and fear of inadequacy. Or it's projected - they're envious that the woman has had more sexual partners and experiences than him, a man, who feels one-upped by the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 10:20 AM
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Having kids isn't the only reason people commit to each other though, is it? You can still enjoy love, enjoy the benefits of sharing your life with a romantic partner, enjoy the sexual relationship, enjoy caring for each other and sharing interests and memories together, without everything just boiling down to having children for you as a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 10:14 AM
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Well I'm almost 33 now, and I've been through a lot since I was 16 which has changed me in significant ways. Various jobs, various relationships, living in various towns with various people, endured abject poverty, endured sexual assault, met new people, lost friends, made new friends. Also taking into account that your 30s is a totally different life stage in general, so it'd have changed regardless. I've had incredible, positive experiences, horrific, life-changing experiences, and everything …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:26 PM
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It's a flair. That's generally their purpose, bigbeatbox950. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 09:50 AM
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Completely gone. Totally and completely gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 10:34 PM
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I'm interested in everyone's definition of truth here. I see no other reason for being here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:18 PM
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Lol what? Bait for opinions? Isn't that what ever sub is about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:53 PM
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That's awesome! Really glad it worked out for you guys. Wishing you all the future success! It's nice to hear a happy thing in these crazy days.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:49 PM
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Bait for.. what? A lot of people here have raised some really interesting points. It's created some really interesting discussion, whether I agree with everything posted or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:48 PM
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Cool opinion. Again, this post has nothing to do with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:35 PM
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This is maybe the most interesting point I've read yet. Thanks for the input. That makes a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:31 PM
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More great news.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:29 PM
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What are you trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:27 PM
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"Cock carousel" sounds like a fun thing. My experience of being a sex worker, was not fun. What's the other question?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:18 PM
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Congratulations. People should be where they want to be. That's good news.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:15 PM
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Cool story bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:07 PM
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How easy is it for such women to shrug off the oppressive indoctrination they've been raised on? I imagine some of them could change drastically, and others not so much. Still. I wonder how much of a risk it may secretly feel to such men to bring women like that into a place where they have so many more rights than they had before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:07 PM
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Re-read sub rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:03 PM
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VERY much agree to disagree on this. Older, reliable, trustworthy, loyal men totally exist. Their possession of those traits doesn't mean they're flawless or perfect, but older men with those qualities absolutely exist. Disney fairytale men? Not so much!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:57 PM
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What a strange comment. This isn't even about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:39 PM
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I never considered my vagina in this light before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:09 PM
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Sorry, I think I'm not being clear enough. Girls are embedded in a culture that teaches us to prime our physical beauty as much as possible, prioritize having children and domestic chores, and on top of that, dream about marrying a "Prince Charming" - a handsome, heroic, perfect man. That isn't real, though. We have to adapt to reality. I see many men in PPD discussion who have their own opposite sex equivalent but who - despite not having grown up a shred of the pressure and expectation - have …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 05:58 PM
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Western men who can't find a willing woman deciding to migrate to countries where women have the least rights is definitely a thing, yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 05:28 PM
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What I was getting at is that so many toys were literally priming us to value ourselves for our looks and to cast ourselves in a motherly role from a very young age. It's emphasized to us so much, but we have to adapt our expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 05:12 PM
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Good thing you're engaged then!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 05:01 PM
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Sure women are valued more for our looks than are men, but enough older women are still manage to find men they find attractive and desirable enough to have casual sex / hook-ups, LTRs, marriages and families with, so why care about the men to whom our youth is so terribly important to anyway? Why should it matter to us that there are some guys struggling along with the weight of their own expectations? This issue isn't affecting us nearly as much as the reverse affects men who feel like they li…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:58 PM
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But she does have to be young as I firmly believe that if a woman refuses you in her youthful years but then wants you once she's past her prime she doesn't respect you as a man. That's still fantastically unrealistic, though, isn't it? It isn't like everyone knows everyone else who exists in the world at any given moment and is "witholding the goods" from you on purpose to make you sad. If someone has a series of serious relationships with people which all ended for various reasons, why value t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:32 PM
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Cool he's just in the kitchen at the moment making us breakfast. I'll just go and let him know. Lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:12 AM
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that's interesting, coming from someone who literally sold her body If you're steeped in an environment which values you primarily for your looks, normalizes porn as "healthy", and normalizes treating women like sex objects, then becoming a sex worker seems like a perfectly acceptable thing. Turns out - it fucks you up. maybe there's a place in heaven where spirits love each other unconditionally as spirits, you might prefer it there. I can't imagine that, being an earthly being trapped in a dyi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:03 AM
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I never wanted to be valued for my body in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:50 AM
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Let's just take what you said and apply it to women, if all those suitable good guys are no good for her and she wants to fuck all the bad boys, then what does that say about her 'love'? It says that it means nothing because she gave it away for free before she made the lady final man pay for it. So many men do the same though: they've had some failed relationships, some heartbreaks, maybe some casual sex and experimenting along the way. People grow and mature as they get older. What's at all wr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:41 AM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:30 AM
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Women aren't that interesting past being mothers and instant attraction Also I think that's a "You" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:18 AM
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Oh I thought I'd fall in love and it would be forever. Reality? My first boyfriend abused me and threatened to kill himself if I left him. So... Fertility can suck my left tit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:14 AM
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What are the useless alternative options for love then, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:11 AM
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If the weight of importance you put on love is a woman "Giving To Man The Ultimate Promise & Sacrifice of Her Beautiful Years®", it's not surprising that you say things like this. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:03 AM
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I don't see what is so bad about changing your standards to become more realistic or less fantasy-based, whether it's men or women doing this. You can have a preference for people who are not perfect or as idealised as you used to desire. "Settling" feels different to that. Settling feels more like something you're more aware of, like a darker, lingering sense in the back of your brain that you could "do better". The need to be like the most perfect, beautiful person, or the need to find someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:43 AM
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No you don't understand. The penis transmits its own unique germ, and when combined with 1+ penis germ, forms a beauty-sapping liquide in the female bod. This is The Science. RP term.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:34 AM
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Is there a "'cel" to describe men who are single because they exclusively want to be with attractive young women aged 18 - 23 despite their being much older, socially inept, emotionally labile / dysregulated, ugly, immature, etc? Because holy shit that's such a thing! It isn't even just that they fetishize and objectify young women to a degree not even seen in most men who can say sure they find 18 - 21 women physically attractive. It's that they specifically and exclusively want to be with vibr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:22 AM
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No sane Capable Man will get into a relationship with a with a 30+ woman feeling like she’s the love of his life If the ultimate, overarching priority needed to deem someone the "love of your life" is based on something as fleeting, transient and superficial as the beauty of youth, then what does that say about the worth of being "the love of his life" in the first place? What happens when the "love of his life" has her 30th birthday?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:11 AM
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Okay? That wasn't the reason I responded.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 09:21 AM
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I don't believe most men are predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:16 PM
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You're mansplaining an experience common for girls, to a woman who experienced so much sexual harassment when she was a minor that she was afraid to leave her house for minutes at a time. You don't have to trust the BBC. This is a scarily common experience for many girls. I'm just saying, if you've experienced this in your life to a degree where it's a part of your everyday life, it's hard to not draw certain conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:07 PM
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Men like boobies, women develop boobs at a young age, therefore most men are pedos? Wtf kinda logic is that. When you grow up with this being a part your life as an underage girl, how do you not conclude that at least a scarily large proportion of men are paedophiles or predators?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:55 PM
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It sounds like you're trying to conflate the relative nobility of breaking up with someone after realizing that you aren't sexually compatible, with the stupification that is "post nut clarity". No, it doesn't make it much better for us to know he wasn't deliberately planning on pumping and dumping us, than to know he was in a stupified state because he had a boner that clouded his mind. Post nut clarity is just something women don't/can't/won't understand. Men are just so damn mystical!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 05:11 PM
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Men are not meant to be beta. At all. We aren’t meant to be weak. We aren’t meant to be “nice”. We aren’t mean to to put others first. We damn sure aren’t meant to give a fuck about women’s feelings. Think about how we were like as children. How naturally it came to us to bully our peers and assert dominance. How our first instinct when we saw a girl was not to bend at her feet, but to pull her hair. Hell, if we weren’t picking on girls, we were staying far the fuck away from them because they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 10:43 AM
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Dude I literally just think it's good to ask before you do something someone might not like in terms of hair pulling, spanking, etc. If you disagree, okay. But I just think it's really poor sexual practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 08:29 PM
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No, because it's generally expected that people like vanilla sex. If you have a freaky kink, then you need to ask for consent before you start strangling someone. Because otherwise - good luck in jail!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 08:06 PM
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I'm sure it didn't work out well for you at all! I mean, you need some form of cognitive dissonance going on if you're the kind of person who openly attemps to justify closed communication about sexual boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 07:18 PM
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Absolutely. Not. If you take your relationship / sex advice from stand-up comedians, I think you need to seriously re-evaluate where you're getting your education from.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 05:26 PM
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If women decide to use their youth to ride the chad cock carousel they shouldn't be suprised at the consequences. They gave their youth away to other men. What are the consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 03:03 PM
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You're someone who really needs to know that someone can be anti-porn because they had first-hand experience working in the industry and learned how corrupt it is from the inside. This isn't as black and white as you're making it out to be. Just because someone is against the toxic heap of shit the porn industry has become doesn't make them a prude by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:52 PM
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Just want to chime in to say I completely agree with everything you're saying here. Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:49 PM
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Did her use of the term "pornsick" trigger you or something? This is a question for women. Let her reply how she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:48 PM
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That's a really terrible way to go about though, isn't it? How can you tell someones' kink by their body language? Why not just be adults and talk about sex? If people aren't doing this, they absolutely should. There ought to be absolutely no excuse not to do so. If you want to do something kinky or weird, don't just start doing it without asking if they're okay with it first because that's kind of really important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:45 PM
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I will say this- women ALWAYS have a spot for me after I either “awakened” them to wanting to be spit on, choked, pissed on, etc. What do you mean "awakened" them to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:37 PM
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It's a problem when men don't ask you what you want and do something just because porn or an ex "taught them what women want". That's the big issue I have with all this: Men being poor communicators and just trying stuff out on us like it's fine to do anything until we stop them. Kinks function the same way for women as they do men: We're all completely different, and have different kinks / fetishes / fantasies / desires / ways we want to be treated. Every woman doesn't like to be treated roughl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:31 PM
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I guess that depends on your priorities. If casual sex means more to you than a LTR, that's your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 08:10 AM
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If you can't communicate your point sufficiently without spewing out made-up phrases that lead people to vile fetish porn when it's searched for, or talking like a caveman, you need to communicate your point better. Who do you think YOU are? You're also strawmanning the shit out the whole "men like pretty women" thing, so I'm going to leave you to your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:51 PM
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Women prefer more attractive women including for their serious, mature relationships. Men value women for their attractiveness which is tied to their youth. Yes, there are plenty of other qualities that are important, but they prefer attractive women with those qualities. Everyone wants to be with someone they find attractive, of course. There's a huge difference between that, and only seeking out specifically young, inexperienced people beyond your own youth to be in a relationship with, though…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:40 PM
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It doesn't matter if it's a compliment or not. Men are going to value women for their fertility. All men are not obsessed with young, naive women, though. There do exist men (and women) whose main priority is finding love and having a serious, mature relationship. What makes you think you have better options when you're less valuable? High value men also have more options, including more bad options to weed through. Gotta watch out for gold diggers if you have money. Because my value isn't just …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:05 PM
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Yes, she has all the options the older women have, plus the options that consider the older women too old. That's not that great a deal though, is it? To have someone value you for your age isn't a good thing. I don't think this is quite the compliment men think it is. Imo it's better to be an older woman without the options of men who just want the appeals of a young woman, or are excessively caught up in the charms of very young women. I for one definitely didn't value those types of guys when…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:08 PM
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A man needs to be tall, have a full head of hair, large frame, chiseled jaw etc. A man "needs" these things the same as women need to have large, firm breasts, be slim, have healthy hair, etc. Every man in a relationship does not have a full head of hair, a large frame, chiseled jaw the same way every woman in a relationship doesn't have the things I mentioned. I don't think there's an EQUAL amount of pressure though. You can be a below average looking guy but be talented at something, charismat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 03:52 PM
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A 21 year old has more options, for sure, but I'm not sure if she has better options. There are serious amounts of men to weed out, and an inexperienced young woman is going to have a harder time spotting red flags than an older woman. I think - physical beauty aside - this is why so many older men prey on younger women: they know they're going to tolerate a lot more bs than an older, more experienced woman who has become tired of the crap men pulled on her when she was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 03:42 PM
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And basically never know what it's like to mog anyone. I don't even know what this means. But I'm okay with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:11 PM
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What was the reward of us behaving more modestly and sleeping with less men, though? Especially if you're in the 50s and the husband you married when you were 18 is now shtupping his 20 year old office secretary and then coming home and expecting you to have his dinner on the table? The wholesome virtues of marriage and modesty weren't at it cracked up to be for women, either. Women worked out that "behaving modesty" didn't actually reap us that much in the way of personal benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:03 PM
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I know for a fact that I would not make a great parent because I simply have no maternal desire. So, I use my maturity to take contraception and opt out of parenthood. If I decided to have children despite having no natural inclination or desire to have children, do you think that would be a mature decision? Do you believe that all parents are not immature, simply by virtue of reproducing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:16 PM
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Oh. Is there anything with getting a bunch of dick (or pussy) for biologically no reason? We live in a world where you can enjoy sex and use contraception, so you can enjoy it without the risk of having children. What's wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:11 PM
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since you’re getting a bunch of sick for biologically no reason I'm sorry, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:09 PM
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Why are you so emotionally invested in the reproductive decisions of people you don't know? Maybe I'd make a bad parent. Maybe I have a horrible genetic disease I don't want to pass down. Maybe I come from a line of intergenerational trauma I want to put an end to. Maybe I don't have the resources to bring up a healthy child. Maybe I don't want kids, but the woman next door to me who would make a fine parent, does. Is every human on the planet required to have more children to make you feel bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:07 PM
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I've been out with plenty of guys who were not alpha. I don't think they gave a crap about if I'd been with a guy who could be considered so, because they were secure enough in the people they were. I really think this is an insecurity thing. Every guy doesn't have to be alpha to feel secure in himself. Just like a woman doesn't have to be the physically hottest woman a guy has ever been with to feel secure in herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 11:43 AM
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I think this is way more common and easily-obtainable for women than a lot of RP men like to imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 11:27 AM
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A woman can get a higher quality life partner when she's higher quality. Why do you believe that? Sorry if I have your definition wrong here (maybe I've spent too much time on this sub), but if you're defining a "higher quality" woman as when she's a slim 21 year old, dating is an absolute minefield of sorting through trashy men who want you for casual sex, immature men with low interpersonal skills who aren't interested in self-development, men who don't want to settle down yet and decide they …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 11:15 AM
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What if you don't want babies? All women do not want to reproduce. Less now, possibly, more frequently than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 11:09 AM
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Why is appreciating the full beauty, vitality, and energy of your youth indicative of low mental acumen and symbolic of immaturity?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 11:08 AM
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When I talk about what I want in a man, if I haven't outright stated it, my finding him attractive is surely a given? Finding someone attractive, and someone being considered "conventially attractive" however, are very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 11:03 AM
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According to RP, women become unattractive and used up after 30 (especially if they dared enjoy an active sex life with more than one man), and all men without status / money / looks are undesirable garbage who will never be loved. In the RP world, everyone is shallow, materialistic, easily disposable, and concepts of love and the effects of falling in love don't exist. I think the difference is that many RP men are actually every single bit as shallow and materialistic as the young Stacy hottie…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 10:53 AM
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I just don't want to commit to a woman who views me as less alpha as her previous partners. Why do you have to be the most alpha guy a woman has ever been with? What if she dated a guy who was more alpha than you, but she gets on better with you? Maybe he had too many bad habits. Maybe he didn't care for her as much as you. Maybe they were sexually incompatible and he had a weird kink she didn't like. There are so many reasons to not get hung up on things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:09 PM
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Let me guess your a feminist. Let me guess, you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 03:52 PM
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It's just weird when men talk about stuff like this as being just oh-so-catastrophic for them, when the fact literally is that our worst-case scenario that we have to contend with is that the guy we're meeting up with could rape or murder us. Men generally do not turn up for dates with women with the background worry that she could be a rapist / murderer, so when men complain about "she wanted me to pay for everything", "her apartment was very messy", "there were clothes on her floor", "she want…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 03:35 PM
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Absolutely nobody said that men cannot be victims of abuse or domestic violence, but you decided to strawman this open wide enough to wedge that implication into it. In the process you've linked red flags of ... messiness, expecting the man to pay, and wanting to cuddle instead of have sex... ?!... with being an abuser, which is absolutely absurd and ridiculous. Abusers can come in all guises and there is no way to tell who will or will not become abusive. That you had an abuser who shared trait…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 01:51 PM
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Goodness me. If dealing with behavior like this is "I've lost faith in humanity" level for you, you're very lucky! The types of red flags we women have to contend with are more along the lines of: Is he going to rape / physically harm me? Men of the same ilk as the women you're referring to: Trashy men with poor hygiene, poor housekeeping skills and clothing strewn all over the floor is bullshit women have been expected not only to accept, but to deal with / sort out as their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 11:41 AM
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It's a good thing that all men and women aren't all exactly the same and choose exactly the same types of people to be with, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:19 AM
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Men are so at mercy of female decision-making that they aren't even responsible for their own morality? Men are responsible for nothing, while women are responsible for themselves and also men? You must bear hatred for a lot of people if this is how you see things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:44 AM
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"If their empowerment and rights aren't going to get me sex, then I don't want them to be empowered or have rights" - because their lives and rights only matter because they might they benefit you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 06:29 AM
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We aren't surprised. Men have been using these things against us for the majority of human civilization as a means of asserting control and authority over us. Women making their own decisions, making their own money to support themselves to fund their lives the way they wish, and having the abilty to make their own sexual choices, are historically not things men like because it makes us less dependent on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 06:12 AM
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And then there are the Down Syndrome and handicapped female "models" if you want to call them that. Where are the male models with obvious disabilities that are meant to be mainstream? Right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:53 AM
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It's like you're trying to justify your singular sexual interest in very young women by shunning every older woman who'd want you now not only because you don't know for absolute certain (did you know you could be wrong?) if she'd have wanted to be with you when she was younger, but because yeah - you literally just don't value older women, it seems like.. If your assumption is right, you actually have more in common with these women than you thought, then, if that's the case? - They'd shun you …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 04:53 PM
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You literally admitted to me that when you were young, you would reject a guy for going bald. I most certainly didn't. Feel free to quote where I said that. I'm 27 And how old are the women who are expressing interest in you now?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 02:20 PM
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You value guys based on the length and thickness of their hair. To the point you would, when you were young, reject based on this alone. Therefore I think you're coming across as a hypocrite here. I said absolutely nothing of the sort. My finding men with long hair attractive doesn't mean it's some kind of dealbreaker for me by any means. The majority of men I've actually fallen in love with and been in relatitonships with have not had long hair. Some of them had long hair and then cut it. My cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 02:06 PM
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I have heard of that, yes, but again I think it's a strange way of viewing relationships being as both young men AND young women behave similarly in their youth (don't get me wrong, they don't behave exactly the same, but similarly). - By and large, young, attractive people enjoy fucking other young, attractive people. Their relationships will mostly be short-lived and mostly based on sexual desire, but these experience will ultimately contribute toward their development and maturation as they g…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 01:50 PM
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That's worrying!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 12:30 PM
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It's unfortunate that you experienced premature balding. But why do you find it disrespectful that older women are interested in you? How do you know they wouldn't have been interested in you before?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 12:19 PM
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Your attitude around this is interesting to me, not only because definitions of what age a person becomes an "adult" in terms of law varies around the world and has been variable throughout history which obviously has no set-in-stone biological age, but also because obviously there's nuance to this. - We each have our own personal perception of how we each view and define adulthood in terms of how someone matures over the course of years and decades. The prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 12:16 PM
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Why does it matter? Why does it actually matter if someone's tastes or standards change as they age?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:54 AM
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Men prey on 18 year old girls because "now they're legal we can be sleazeballs to them!" If you have experience being a slim teenage girl, then around the ages of 14 - 19 you will learn A LOT about male sexual behavior, from boys as well as men much older than you, that will be absolutely overwhelming, so yeah it actually does matter. When men go out of their way to assert the "adultness" of 18 year old females, it's usually loaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:52 AM
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People's tastes aren't allowed to change and evolve over the course of their lives? The people and types of people's looks you're attracted to at 18 should be the same as when you're 50? Again, the language you use around this is odd to me - "older versions" there are no "Versions" of the same person. This isn't about "worthy", either. People's tastes naturally just change as they age. Premature baldness is unfortunate, but bald young men in relationships do exist, and baldness should not be a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:44 AM
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I don't believe age works like that. That's the justification 40 year old men use for having sex with 18 year olds and watching "barely legal" porn. No 18 year old, male or female, is a fully grown adult. In the eyes of the law they are, but speaking as a 32 year old adult, 18 year olds are children. edit - Wait, you're OP, and all you wanted to respond to in the entire post I wrote was to tell me that 18 year olds are adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:11 AM
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As I've gotten older I've become way more fussy and selective than when I was younger. My standards in my teens and early twenties were basically limited to "is he kind, nice, and do I find him cute?" In my teens, I primarily preferred men older than me because I saw most teenage boys as immature and childish. I already was looking for love but most of them were looking for any sexual experiece they could harass a girl into. And yet, men who were in the bracket I found attractive were more matur…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 09:34 AM
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It’s like drought vs flood. Having no food vs being at a buffet where you’re allergic to everything. Holy shit this is the perfect way to put it. Sums it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 07:12 AM
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I think a lot of men disagreeing with you (about how we feel... which I'm not sure how it's actually possible to disagree about the lived experiences / feelings / responses of other people) have no idea what it's actually like getting attention from men. On dating sites, from what I can rememeber, it's mostly "hi bb how r u?", "hey sexy!! wanna hook up?", "<random objectifying comment>", "hey bb wat u up 2?", "hey hunny love ur pic! how r u?". You know they aren't actually interested in you. Or …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 07:10 AM
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Fetishes are not the same as beauty standards though. There are also plenty of obese women who actually dislike being fetishized, because it doesn't feel the same as someone just appreciating your beauty for what it is. Also I disgaree that all women prefer six pack abs to potbellies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:54 AM
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No I am not telling you that. There are two strands going on currently: one churning out possibly the most unrealistic standards for female beauty yet, (highly edited / surgically modified) and the other, (the one you're referring to), in response to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:52 PM
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This is a total strawman. Who are these women crying about standards of beauty meaning being "young and slim"? Men are proudly stating they love "thicc women" while masturbating over Instamodels who have facetuned their figures into bizarre, Jessica Rabbit-style physiques that don't even exist irl without surgery and / or editing apps. When we complain about beauty standards, it's that shit we're referring to, not women are young, pretty and slim (and... y'know, real).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 05:03 PM
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Okay, you're like that, so I guess we're done here. I'm a woman so I'll leave you to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 04:23 PM
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That's nonsense. Have you ever read any of the relationship advice subs? There are women in relationships and marriages with men they find very attractive, but feel violated when they try to force sex onto them when they don't want it. This notion that women are fine with rape so long as he looks like some celebrity is a total fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 04:06 PM
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I mean, we want sex with people we want sex with. We want sexual contact with men we desire, and we don't want sexual contact with men we don't desire. Having sex with someone against their will is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 04:02 PM
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The OP said they will be similar to humans in that regard. OP said they can be as realistic as you want - so they could be anything from a sex doll to a romantic partner. Essentially you can make your perfect human, but ultimately it's still your own creation. The OP did not specify the gender. Women also would have access to robots, as I see. I was commenting more on your own statement regarding women robots. But in the case of us living in a world in which both men and women alike have access …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:35 PM
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If you're defining "a better version of a real woman" as being a robot with no free will and controlled 100% by men, then that's revealing your take on how you define the "betterment" of women. Is it still evolution if it was never a living thing in the first place? It would be the evolution of technology, not the evolution of human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:19 PM
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You imagine the two to be that easily interchangable? That's completely unrealistic. It isn't like you can just delete your web history and move on with your life. Men can already purchase realistic-looking sex dolls but not very men use them relative to men who watch porn. With OP's scenario though, you'd have to actually maintain the robot, keep it clean, store it somewhere properly, maintain it, etc. If it's super realistic you'll also need to buy clothing for it and whatnot.. There's also th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:09 PM
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All I noted is that it doesn’t matter if she gives out sex earlier or not. It matters to you that you aren't getting it when you want, though, right? If it doesn't matter, where's the issue? Actually delaying sex will push high value men away, resulting in women being unable to get the relationship they want. Where did you come up with this? High value men are thirsty af? I don't think that's correct actually. Women shouldn't "delay sex" in case it pushes high value men away? That just sounds in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:03 PM
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Yes. Absolutely. You could make it 100% indistiguishable from real humans, but those using them would know deep down that they aren't real. Shit, now I'm picturing some kind of horrible, dystopian Blade Runner-esque future with incels going around trying to seperate the Stacys from the sex robots. "So... let's talk about Chad. How do you feel about his canthal tilt?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:05 PM
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Do you think men also will? I well can see this raising the sexual value of men who don't / have not used these.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 12:48 PM
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Depending on frequency and popularity of use, I think it could result in human emotional intelligence and social skills will significantly plummeting. Many people who will be attracted to the idea of using these will of course most likely be very lonely, socially isolated, and have weak emotional intelligence and / or social skills in the first place. I can't imagine many healthy, well-adjusted people feeling the need for something like this in their lives, and I think to most people, the idea w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 12:31 PM
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I think that's fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 12:19 PM
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What's wrong with this situation even if you are right? Let's say she isn't that into you yet, so no sex for you, you haven't won her over yet. I mean, that's just too bad, right? Why are you entitled to sex from her anyway? Because she put out in the past? That makes no sense. I find this weird too because when you're first dating someone you actually care about, (assuming you do), you're surely spending more energy on trying to win their affections than getting angry with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 12:17 PM
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What if she learned from her past experiences that having sexual contact so soon too often leads to issues down the line, and so her now wishing to stop that is her modifying her behavior to simply protect herself, and add some damage limitation control to her life? Does it always negatively reflect on her character if women who had a lot of one-night-stands decides she'd like to stop? Should such women just be sexually liberal in this way forever? They can never change? In case future partners …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:45 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:22 AM
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Uh, no. I'm against the porn industry because I worked in the industry myself and ended up seeing it for what it was: rife with abuse, trafficking, rape, drug addiction and coersion. Even people who openly enjoy porn are starting to see how fucked up the industry is, especially with what's coming out about PornHub and online streaming sites lack of age verification / filmed rape, etc. Very interesting that the article emphasised Chaturbate's age verification policy. That certainly has NOT always…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:18 AM
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I'd feel more weird about the fact that he waited so long to tell me, than him just having this sexual history in the first place. The wait and the attitude around it would make it feel weirder to me. For my actual partner, we discussed our sexual histories pretty early on - he had a "wild phase", as did I, though he was in a successful band and did tours abroad, he technically had a more wild time than me, and with him being 10 years older he has more experience under his belt, but it didn't ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:27 AM
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I always thought the strength difference between men and women was the prime reason we're taught to "go for the balls" in the first place, and the same reason that men going for each others balls in fighting professions is mostly against the rules due to its largely disabling effects? Idk.. I'm confused now. I've spent most of my life hearing men speak about how utterly, debilitatingly excruciating a well-aimed kick to the balls is. I think too if you're a woman in imminent danger of physical or…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 11:26 PM
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You want to make claims about me on my own thread, and then tell me "go away" when I respond to it? Are you like this in real life? Because holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 10:00 AM
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You're projecting. Women are the ones who Again. I'm not making any claims about women's shallowness or lack thereof, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 09:57 AM
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What? I'm not even trying to make any specific claims about women. That is not the purpose of this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 09:56 AM
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I was more interested in analyzing how men would react if the genders were flipped in the case of the popular "Men are visual creatures" statement specifically, than getting into further gender generalizations but go off I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 09:55 AM
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I mean, my own personal judgments and thoughts on whether women ARE visual / as visual / etc, aside, I wanted to focus more on the fact that "men are visual creatures" is a phrase widely and commonly used by both men and women alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 09:51 AM
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Who gives a shit? Uh, me? Haha. Obviously I figured it was an interesting talking point, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered posting this in the first place. That men are visual creatures is merely a descriptive fact, save for whatever opinion you have about it being justified or not. Are you a man? Because this is precisely the attitude I'm referring to. Men age like Sean Connery. Women, also, age like Sean Connery. That’s merely biology, honey. Haha! Um, okay? I don't know what you're saying he…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 08:54 AM
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Ah okay I am understanding your perspective more now. Yes, there is a huge difference between not wanting children and having an actual disdain for them. I feel like those two should not be confused or mixed up. I've seen what can go on those childfree forums and yeah. Some of it can get pretty disturbing tbh. But then, I am glad those kinds of people aren't having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 01:56 PM
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