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The think that negging and playing hard to get will make us want them more but it's fruitless for them to play hard to get (or run hot and cold) when THEY are hard to want in the first place.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/07/20 08:51 AM
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Yes that's exactly right, we DON'T put up with them in the first place because we know TRP tactics they will always deploy. Why should we give them a chance to treat us like s#@$?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/07/20 08:49 AM
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There are definitely a lot fewer pickmeishas willing to tolerate their behavior than their manipulated statistics portray. If so many women would be actually willing to endure the plate spinning then the OLD sites wouldn't be so devoid of decent women. The fact that these sites have much more men than women indicates that not so many women want to become plates.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/07/20 01:31 AM
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Exactly, AWALT (all women are like that) precludes them from ever considering our perspective.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/07/20 01:23 AM
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A very accurate parallel.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/07/20 01:22 AM
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The funny thing is that is usually what happens. They get 3 or 4 plates spinning at once and because of this "abundance" they start to lower their effort to the bare minimum with all of their girls and all at once all of their girls ghost them. Then they're back to square one complaining about how difficult it is to meet women.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/07/20 01:08 AM
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Exactly, if a guy is showing inconsistent and flaky interest, there are other guys out there who will actually be interested in you. Why be one man's trash when you can be some other man's treasure?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/07/20 01:05 AM
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Honestly men (and maybe women for that matter) who are 6's actually have better luck finding people to date. Most people don't want to date the 10 because they fear that their 10 boyfriend or girlfriend will cheat on them or leave them because the 10 can (in theory) get anyone. But in reality, I've noticed that the most attractive people are actually the most loyal and the most 6-7ish people (both men and women) want to spin plates to make themselves feel more attractive.
/r/seduction27/05/20 05:41 AM
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You are either a man masquerading as a woman or a BDSM enabler. Just by questioning why a woman isn't naturally turned on by enduring physical pain is insulting. If a woman is fine with BDSM or any other sexual behavior she would just mind her own business, but since you have to go out of your way to justify how great BDSM is for you and ask why she (the OP) feels the she feels (like most women), that makes me believe that you have a gaslighting motive.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/05/20 11:31 PM
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I agree and honestly at this point I would rather just not have sex than to be a sexual servant who receives no pleasure in return. It's as if the entire BDSM community wants to corner the market so to speak so that the only "correct" exciting sex is what they want. Every person I've met who I've known to be into that whole BDSM swinger lifestyle (I only know because they mad it a point of telling me) is ugly and repulsive anyways.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/05/20 11:25 PM
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That's what most men on Tinder treat women on Tinder like. That's why no decent women want to be on Tinder or OLD for that matter.
/r/seduction15/05/20 08:49 AM
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Most women are not actually enthusiastic about having one-way sex (sex that is male pleasure focused). Believe it or not, most women do not want to be slapped and violently choked and made to vomit while being forcibly gagged peforming for a man. If the sex acts involved pleasure for the woman, there would be more enthusiasm, but since sex today must entail physically painful acts just to keep a man hard and then to get him to the end because it has to be just as exciting as the torture porn, go…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/05/20 10:52 PM
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These guys don't realize that women talk about situations like this and going forward it will be harder to convince us that we will be better off by settling down with them and giving our best, most fertile years to them. In other words, there is no benefit to US in following their Red Pill principles, only to them. They make the argument that women were better off when we housewives but they also don't (or can't) want to be the sole provider. They want all of the benefits of the traditional soc…
/r/ExRedPill05/05/20 04:59 AM
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It's all a mystery to us women, this "magical" hot and cold game that you speak of. It's totally always going to be secret and women will never catch on. Absolutely brilliant!
/r/seduction05/05/20 01:17 AM
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I think that I'm one of those women who have tried to prove otherwise. I don't want to come off as sounding arrogant but I have no problem (physically) attracting these supposed Chads. I'm 5'7 110 lbs, 32 24 33 and my BMI is currently 14.6 percent with waist-length hair. I have noticed that the guys I've been attracted to have been between 5'5 and 5'9 and dark hair. The girls who only want these tall guys with Caucasian features are usually short women who are over 140 lbs. I also have many conv…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 10:59 PM
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Don't buy into the myth that women prefer tall men, a myth that is perpetuated by tall men themselves. I'm 5'7 and I have definitely been very attracted to guys who are 5'5. Most women will gladly take a hot shorter guy over a plain tall guy. The plain tall guy is the male equivalent of the girl with big natural breasts- because she has that one immutable characteristic that guys like, she doesn't feel the need to improve or maintain the rest of her body (or personality) and overall is less attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 08:23 AM
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Why is it assumed that Indian or Asian guys are not or don't have the potential to be hot? Some of the hottest actors (IMO) are from Bollywood. It's almost this belief that some guys (mostly white guys) want to perpetuate that women (especially white women like myself) only want white or black men. So long as a guy is fit, hygienic, INTELLIGENT and has a good sense of style, I have seen women from all races very attracted to these men. I also take issue with this supposed preference of height. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 08:14 AM
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Girls in the 8-10 range don't have to use Tinder. If a girl is on Tinder it means that she is so desperate that she is willing to be a FREE prostitute. Why would a hot girl need to even get the online validation of guys who just want to use her for sex when she can have guys IRL who will at least pretend that they have feelings for her. OLD is the human equivalent of an all-you-can-eat buffet: plenty of options, but all of inferior quality.
/r/seduction28/04/20 10:18 AM
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But now that it's established that agreeing to go to a guy's house for a drink means that you're willing to sleep with him, a lot less women will say yes to that low/no effort date idea. If the first IRL "date" suggestion is this, a lot of women (who are not just dtf) will block and ghost a guy who pulls this. He has revealed his true intentions and the absolute maximum effort he is willing to exert (pretty much nothing because he can just stay home) and believe it or not, a lot of women don't w…
/r/seduction28/04/20 10:11 AM
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This is the best approach.
/r/seduction28/04/20 06:24 AM
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Those are two extremes that no woman wants. What if it was possible to be somewhere in between these two, or are these the only options?
/r/seduction28/04/20 06:23 AM
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Does he smoke three packs of cigarettes a day??? He doesn't look 50, he looks like he's 62 and most likely has a toupee.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/04/20 09:39 AM
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If the cost of obtaining a relationship is dealing with all of this, then THEIR juice isn't worth the tug.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/04/20 09:29 AM
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This comment itself needs to be a post, it's that spot on.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/04/20 09:25 AM
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These guys who have done this to such an extreme (they find almost any hot girl to be ugly) are actually crying wolf too many times (or rather, crying ugly) too any times) that now it's impossible to take any of their criticisms seriously . They've undermined their own veracity.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/04/20 09:13 AM
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It's very true, I've witnessed men who purposely flirted with less attractive women in front of their hot girlfriend just to make her jealous. They go out of their way to downplay and neg their girlfriend until the girlfriend dumps them for being an a#$hole. I think it's easier for the insecure guy to be dumped for being an asshole rather than dumped for not being good enough.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/04/20 09:08 AM
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Exactly, they have been brainwashed by the wish fulfillment movies to believe that they can be average or even unattractive and they still deserve no less than a 10. They believe that if they go to a lesser-developed country (Philippines, Ukraine) that they can get a girl 20 or 30 years younger than them. They are shocked when they have to spend thousands to immigrate their new wife to the US/Canada and then she divorces after the five year sentence.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/04/20 09:00 AM
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Why do these guys think that just by posing with a dog that it somehow makes them more trustworthy. The worst players always have these wholesome pictures (with their mom or kids or pets) just to dispel any skepticism.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/04/20 08:47 AM
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It's always bad one-way sex at that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/04/20 07:47 AM
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What is it with so many men just thinking that we are human fleshlights? It's like they don't even consider what might turn us on sexually; instead our bodies only exist to serve THEIR pleasure.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/04/20 07:45 AM
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Numbers (4) and (5) are my main reasons for being single. If jumping through hoops to get the attention or approval crumbs from some man who can't even show me the same affection or wants me to revolve my life's purpose around him, then I'm definitely better off alone.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/04/20 07:41 AM
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We are most definitely better off being alone than dealing with that. If the shoe was on the other foot (if the wife was the one who was impregnated by another man) you better believe that every guy would be telling the husband to leave.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/04/20 01:21 AM
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Block, delete and ghost him. There are thousands of other men out there who at least have the potential to appreciate you. Once you realize the abundance of other options, you'll see how easy it is to walk from waffely men.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/04/20 03:31 AM
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They also want that ego stroke that comes with knowing they can get a girl's attention. I almost think that they're more addicted to our attention than the sex.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/04/20 03:29 AM
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Amen!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/04/20 03:27 AM
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You should have confidence, but within reason. If you only had a five dollar bill in your pocket would you walk onto the lot of a Mercedes Benz dealership expecting to buy a brand new S 500 with that five dollar bill? Probably not. If the person you're interested in doesn't want to know more about you after you've dropped some bait, then move on asap. It's better to have a few positive experiences instead of a ton of negative experiences that will only stifle your confidence.
/r/seduction23/04/20 03:25 AM
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The advice that older men are better, more faithful and more considerate is just a myth. Honestly, in my own experience I was 32 and dated a 53 year-old who told me that I was too old for him. Most people still think I'm 26 at most but he said that he wouldn't want to settle with a girl over 24. The entitlement is real. It's like when they can get a girl who is 20 years younger, then they start to believe that it's their norm. Well if they would rather have those 21 year-old IG models, let them …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/04/20 08:04 AM
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This is very true, before you can unlearn that nasty cycle of earning love you should definitely stay single.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/04/20 07:41 AM
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I most definitely agree that there is an epidemic of bad sex that is like bad porn, only it's the male actor in the scene who can't get the moves right. We are really at a turning point sexually because everything in porn and mainstream favors the male point of view. Even female-friendly porn isn't anything that is exciting (at least to me). We have only been encouraged to explore our sexuality if it's according to the male script. There is a potentially huge industry for porn that actually exci…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/04/20 08:59 AM
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Yes, the bad sex is ironically the asset that so many of these LVMs think that they bring to the table. They can't even pretend even for 20 minutes that your body is nothing more than their personal sex doll to play with for THEIR pleasure only.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/04/20 08:45 AM
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The realization that we are independent and self-sufficient is an incredible game changer! Once you see what you are capable of yourself you absolutely will not put up with the one-sided expectations that are ever increasing in the last few years. Because of all of the above mentioned, I find myself much happier and content without completely exhausting myself to gain the approval of anyone else.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/04/20 08:40 AM
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I agree, if there is no will to try to please you, the guy will exert a perfunctory effort at best and then after he is finished, he will smile and exclaim, "wasn't that amazing." At least these replies give me some hope that I might meet someone one day who is compatible (or maybe I should start saving money for a talented sugar baby masseuse). I don't want to exploit some poor guy in a desperate situation but I REALLY am considering hiring a professional. If men can do it, why can't we do it s…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/04/20 02:50 AM
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I'm definitely not opposed to a man doing that for me;))) I don't want to get into too much personal detail but that's not really my favorite thing necessarily; of course I don't think the few men who have done that to me put very much effort into it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/04/20 02:42 AM
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Honesty I haven't found a vibrator that I particularly like but there are certain ways I want to be touched, it just seems like every time I've been with a guy he will be really rough and almost purposely go too fast. I also am a bit submissive go with flow and I definitely am learning to assert my needs or at least establish boundaries.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/04/20 02:39 AM
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Agreed, I only wish FDS was created earlier but I'm very grateful for it:)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/04/20 02:35 AM
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The funny thing is that most poly people I've met are actually reckless and unsuccessful in other parts of their lives; they are selfish lazy co-workers, irresponsible with normal obligations. These people typically know that they are unable and unwilling to reciprocate equally to their personal or even professional relationships. They keep multiple options open because they quickly exhaust each option and jump to the next. Just look at a poly person's work history and you will see a pattern.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/04/20 09:57 AM
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This is very true, there is nothing exciting or pleasurable about performing in porn, it is entirely for the money or in some cases, for the fame. Just filming the positions is uncomfortable but the worst part is that as the performer, it's ingrained in your mind that your sole purpose is not to enjoy the act but to perform according to a director. In "real life" sex a lot of men expect the woman to perform for them because that's her duty (according to the porn script narrative they believe in)…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/04/20 09:50 AM
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If you want hot female friends you need to: 1) Become a hot straight man- ie work out five days a week, put effort into your style, conduct thorough and rigorous grooming, maintain outstanding personal hygiene or, 2) Become gay, accept homosexuality and allow yourself to get sucked in;)
/r/seduction15/04/20 12:23 AM
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How does a girl avoid getting oneitis for a guy? I'm tired of getting feelings for a guy, I want to learn how to see men as generic fungible vessels. Any advice?
/r/seduction15/04/20 12:19 AM
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Oh he provides just enough crumbs to keep you on the back burner, ready to serve his every need, how sweet.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/04/20 12:11 AM
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Honestly, at the very moment that he suggests an open relationship (at least open for him), it's time to leave. He wants a female cuckhold as so many men seem to do no matter how pretty you are. He gives negative unsolicited opinions about his wife's appearance so that she doesn't dare have the self-esteem to find another man. His ideal scenario is one where he has a loyal obedient wife to care for his children and every need while he has flings with multiple women. This makes him the dominant o…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/04/20 12:10 AM
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I don't do any OLD and I don't use social media so the only guys I have a possibility of meeting are IRL. I think that I also give off that blonde bitchy I'm too good for anyone kind of vibe that scares a lot guys away. The ones who do text me fall into two categories 1) extremely hot with family money, usually Persian or Lebanese or 2) hipster nerdy guy who has never lifted, a few pounds overweight with a scraggly beard. You would think that it would be the guys in category 1 who would send ran…
/r/seduction14/04/20 06:28 AM
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Are you sure that the girl who is bad at flirting hasn't actually realized your intentions and isn't just playing dumb? Sometimes a girl might seem to be unaware of things around her is actually in fact thoroughly aware.
/r/seduction14/04/20 02:23 AM
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I'm not sure how novel and revolutionary it is to send a mass "happy holiday" text to multiple women with an emoji is. In fact I just received one such text and now that number is permanently on my block list. It's 2020, at least insert my damn name at the beginning of the text.
/r/seduction13/04/20 03:42 AM
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It's mighty difficult to form any attachment to a guy who only sends "wyd" and"hey you." Obviously not all men are like that and not all women are twerking on snap or IG, so if you want to avoid those types of people I recommend staying off of social media to find people, friends or otherwise. Social media in general turns people into having entire catfish lives, where their online life is NOTHING like their everyday real life
/r/seduction10/04/20 08:41 PM
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Oh and that can totally be achieved overnight or within two weeks? How much status needs to be attained?
/r/seduction10/04/20 08:28 PM
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I don't understand why so many men believe that the less attractive girl will be any easier to get and nicer to you in general and better in bed than the hot girl. If anything, because EVERY guy is throwing themselves at 7's (believing them to be easier) it's actually the artificially inflated 7's who believe that they're the hottest and special. There are plenty of instances of mediocre to very unattractive women who still treat guys like shit and have no sex drive yet guys still think that is …
/r/seduction09/04/20 11:41 PM
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Truly hot women 8.5s to 10s will be almost impossible to "game" because they have too many options and they don't invest that much effort, time and money to look that good to be treated like a disposable plate. If you really want to date a 8-10 you will likely have to become a total simp and actually treat her with the same respect that she gives to you, instead of negging her and calling her crazy (of course in a funny way), or attempting to triangulate her with every other accessible female.
/r/seduction09/04/20 11:25 PM
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Yes the emotional cost of having a boyfriend is far too high to justify the crumbs we get in return and what we're asked to do to maintain this one-sided arrangement (open relationships, threeways with our friends, cooking and cleaning for them).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/20 11:38 PM
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That's literally it. All they have is "game" or the belief that they will get whatever they want so long as they are just pushy and aggressive enough.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/20 11:33 PM
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It also enables LVM behavior. They can just deploy bots to message every single female profile. Remember, to them it's all a numbers game.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/20 11:28 PM
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Exactly! They want one-way monogamy, even after they've "committed" to you. Any pickmeisha who thinks that she can turn a plate spinner into a HVM is bound to be disappointed. They always want to keep an ever growing rotation but they also want to be the only one to receive your attention. Be the plate that smashed!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/20 11:26 PM
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It's a script and the actress is being paid to perform but these guys think that it's reality. They forget that the motivating factor for the actress is MONEY not true attraction to the (often) disgusting male actor.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/20 10:58 PM
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The older men are wiser, wiser at trying to control and manipulate us into being pickmeishas that is.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/20 10:49 PM
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Exactly, that is why I have no desire to get married either. If you thin about it, almost all American sitcoms in the last 20-30 years have portrayed marriage as a prison sentence for men and that all women are cruel prison guards whose only purpose in life is to control and demean men. Of course it's no surprise that the writers of these shows were all men who hoped to perpetuate this myth.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/20 10:46 PM
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Lol, they always profess how much more logical men are compared to women but as soon as they can't get their way they quickly devolve into spoiled three year-olds screaming about how unfair it is that they can't have a one-way relationship that only benefits them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/20 07:35 PM
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Thank you. I am just very grateful to have found the FDS when I did and I appreciate all of our community.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/20 07:28 PM
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The plate spinner's essential tools are the neg and the triangulation of you and other women. He uses the guise of "just being friends" or "not putting labels" on things because he wants to manipulate you into thinking that if you are just perfect pickme enough then you get to "win" the prize that is him. Yet at the same time he doesn't want to dare risk you finding a man who actually appreciates you (because that would force him to treat you humanely) so he negs your self-esteem down to the flo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/20 07:26 PM
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Ghost block delete is the only way to go. They messed up, got greedy and wanted a one-way relationship, then they want an explanation so that they can temporarily dial down this bad behavior only to have it reoccur again. Ghost block delete is the only way to break out of that cycle; no second chances no 22nd chances.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/20 02:51 AM
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Agreed, they always want to put us in a competition so that we are never entirely comfortable with ourselves and so that were vying for the "prize," their attention.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/20 10:29 PM
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I guarantee that everyone is going to receive A LOT of these "oh I miss you so much, I'm so sorry, let's hang out again" type messages during this quarantine. These guys are now without any means to pursue anyone IRL and they don't want to compete with other guys on Tinder so NOW they've had this epiphany that they have to treat us like humans. As soon as quarantine is over they'll be back to their same (low) standard of behavior. Block and never look back, you have nothing to lose except for a …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/20 10:17 PM
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Yes, this is very true. The flowers, the apologies, the actual listening, the faithfulness is not their baseline. It's only a once in a blue moon measure deployed when you're completely fed up.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/20 07:41 PM
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The worst is having to listen to some pickmeisha brag about her man's perfect dick and how lucky she is to have him. It's like they've brainwashed themselves to becoming addicted to the guy and when they profess their addiction to him they reveal just how illogical their feelings are.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/04/20 08:58 PM
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Thank you, I thought that this was just happening to me but apparently it's become all too common of a tactic too many men are using. If there is one deal breaker for me it is plate spinning. At the first whiff of plate spinning, I ghost him and never look back. Be happy to be the plate that smashed:)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/03/20 08:34 PM
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Because apparently, according to the wise and unbiased writers and directors in Hollywood, we are overly-emotional silly people who can easily switch from being incredibly sad to incredibly aroused just by immediate contact with an obviously emotionally and intellectually superior male. If we watch enough of these scenes in movies or TV, we will finally understand and accept the "truth" of a woman's silly and trivial nature.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/03/20 07:29 AM
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If your mom was dating any of the RP men today she would most definitely change her stance on cooking (or taking care) of a potential husband. Maybe her advice was relevant at a point when men actually and very willingly provided for the woman and behaved in a gentleman like manner. Today, it's remarkable if a man buys you a cup of coffee (of course you're expected to do a lot for that lavish Starbucks latte and for HIS valuable time). Too many men want all of the privileges of a "traditional" w…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/03/20 07:18 AM
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Yes, the (almost predictable by now) hot and cold routine is the most annoying part of being a spinning plate. I've endured the triangulation way too many times, especially with fairly mediocre guys who are not objectively attractive enough to warrant the attention of a harem of women. Like you said, it's all part of their estimate of how little they have to contribute to get the maximum reward and they are on the hunt for the highest ROI.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/03/20 06:29 AM
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Don't be afraid to be the plate that crashed. Always remember that a vast majority of guys want to build up their roster of plates and (at least in their mind) there are so many other plates available to them, why should they have to reciprocate the effort attention the you give them? A plate spinner is like investing in a negative yield bond-your return will always be less than what you invest.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/03/20 08:47 AM
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Yes, every married man who doesn't wear his wedding ring often ends up being in a one-way open marriage or claims that it's complicated. You know what's not complicated, my desire to be with a man who is 1000 percent unambiguously single.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/03/20 07:29 AM
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Everyone needs to read this particular thread at least once a week just to reaffirm this mindset. I personally believe in treating a man as I would like him to treat me but with habitual boundary testers I've often ended up becoming a doormat. The most savvy boundary testers are damn masters at blowing warm and lukewarm to the point where you're just their robot/pet/slave for their amusement. There are SO many men whose only objective is to extract as much out of you without ever reciprocating; …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/03/20 07:18 AM
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Yeah, it's very interesting that these guys will spend money and worship these cam models (often girls who are not prettier or even uglier than you) but will become angry and jealous if another guy actually notices the effort that you put into making yourself look attractive for your bf. Well, you don't have to keep giving him something that he doesn't appreciate and there are plenty of other guys who will appreciate you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/03/20 10:29 AM
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