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"Don't return evil with evil, but rather return evil with good." The real enemy is not feminists. The real enemy is hate. The cycle goes like this: Women have bad experiences with men and start hating men. They do bad things to men through their hate. Men start hating them in return. The cycle continues. The only way to stop it is to stop hating. You can have activism to bring awareness to men's problems and point out double standards, etc... But the only way to fight this is to solve the actual…
/r/MensRights21/07/25 02:39 PM
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When supererogatory actions are expected as the norm, especially from people who don't owe them anything and whom you dismiss and degrade throughout society, they are being entitled.
/r/MensRights07/02/25 03:01 PM
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People use "incel" as a word to insult male virgins even if they are voluntarily virgins and not involuntarily virgins. I believe this conflation is what he is talking about. Being a virgin is somehow seen as bad. On top of that, they are insulted about it and made to feel like they are not normal or subhuman simply because they are virgins. All he is saying is that we have to change this about our society and not look down on virgins male or female, and help them if they are suffering from soci…
/r/MensRights24/01/25 02:30 AM
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I was falsely accused of rape by a female classmate in middle school. We were just sitting together as a group on the bleachers waiting for our turn to participate in a P.E. activity in the gym. I was sitting next to her, and my shoulder brushed against hers because of how closely packed together we were. She screamed that I raped her and we got sent to the vice-principal's office. Thankfully, the vice-principal was sane, and she shut her ridiculous accusation down. Honestly, the gym teachers sh…
/r/MensRights14/01/25 03:31 AM
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I was okay with women having their villages and towns, so I am okay with men doing the same. We already have boys only schools. This would just go a step further and turn that school into a township.
/r/MensRights05/01/25 03:25 AM
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When I sat in gym class on the bleachers and a girl was next to me and because our elbows brushed, she accused me of rape. We had to go all the way to the Vice-Principal's office in order for someone (the vice-principal) to finally say that the whole situation was ridiculous and she was blowing up the whole situation. But even then, the vice principal seemed to softly make it appear as if it was both our faults; as they tend to do to be diplomatic. This disappointed me.
/r/MensRights21/09/24 12:08 AM
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Anitfeminists =/ misogynists.
/r/MensRights07/09/24 06:08 PM
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What I discern is that Feminism tried to make women have equal freedoms and opportunities to men, and in the process, decided to also quell toxic and harmful aspects of masculinity. But in the process, they quelled masculinity overall, making men as a whole weaker and more feminine. This starts in childhood for many boys in school where their boyish aspects are ignored and, as such, are not put in the right environment. They put hyperactive, boisterous boys in classrooms and tell them to behave …
/r/MensRights21/08/24 04:34 PM
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No. But this is exactly why dowry used to exist; to protect the woman by giving her financial backing just in case something happened. This was either provided to the woman by her father at the time of marriage, or the dowry was provided to her by her husband as a safety net.
/r/MensRights06/08/24 07:24 PM
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This is just unabashed misandry and sexism. The fact that they feel comfortable saying things like this to a reporter shows the state of our society and the direction its headed. I fear for my future boy children.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/24 02:01 AM
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Yes, because you said 40,000, obviously the standards changed. I did say that those were my favorite, not the only ones. They were my favored examples. But the point remains that male idols were found at those times of prehistory. Unfortunately, not much research is done on the ancient hindu dieties that I talked about that I could show pictures of. So that would remain anecdotal.
/r/MensRights28/03/24 06:21 PM
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Yes! https://www.britishmuseum.org/blog/lion-man-ice-age-masterpiece https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/found-the-mysterious-shigir-idol-may-be-11000-years-old (pre civilization) http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/sculpture/thinker-of-cernavoda.htm (not 40,000 years ago but definitely pre historic)
/r/MensRights28/03/24 12:50 PM
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Yes, very true! Pads, contraceptives, abortions, and safe deliveries are blessings for women.
/r/MensRights28/03/24 12:21 AM
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These dieties are also found in those eras. They are very ancient.
/r/MensRights27/03/24 06:20 PM
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How many statues of men being that religiously praised do we know of that time? Many! My favorite ones are Nataraj - Lord of Dance and Pashupati - Lord of Animals (or the celtic version - Horned Man). Of course, there is also Narayana or Purusha - the universal man (literally the universe in the shape of a man). While I do agree with you in feminine work being equally important; I think modern feminism wants to separate from an ability to give birth which might be something that they are used fo…
/r/MensRights27/03/24 07:30 AM
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I felt upset that I didn't cry when my dog died or felt any sorrow. I felt like I was callous and unsympathetic. I loved my dog so much.
/r/MensRights26/03/24 01:48 AM
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Yeah, that's just deceit and is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 03:56 AM
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Reinstill emotional intimacy in our culture and we might see less of a desperate hunger for sexual intimacy. We can propogate this through our behavior; smile, hug, even kiss on the cheek european style. Not in a rote manner but with the intention of expressing love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:29 PM
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Notice I said hypersexual. By that I meant the cultural imperative that men have to prove their worth by getting approval from women usually through sex, not necessarily dating or marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 01:50 PM
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Yeah, me too. Stopping the obsession doesn't mean you can't want it in a sane manner. We are just stopping participation in a hyper culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 01:01 PM
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Yeah, that's what mgtow actually means. Men going their own way. It just means men are going to stop obsessing about sex and dating and romance and enjoy their lives (unlike what the hypersexual market and culture wants us to be like). It's not about hating on women like what people seem to think just because of a few vocal people that don't represent the entire movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 10:28 PM
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This is not necessarily the case. There are men who might want to be approached by women. I have been approached by women so it is definitely not impossible. Some men might prefer that instead of making a woman uncomfortable by approaching them, they will instead become what they want to be, and the women they want and are attracted to, they will either meet in their social circles or will approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:34 PM
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It is r/MagesVsMatriarchy.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 11:21 PM
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It is the same for me too. This is not an unequal expectation. I am a virgin. I think it is fair. I am not judging or advertising, but you called me out so I responded.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 08:32 PM
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As for women having a sex life and past relationships before meeting you shouldn't bother you and if it does then you deserve to be alone. I don't think it is fair or right for you to judge a person's preference. If he prefers someone who is a total beginner to romantic relationships and sex that is his perogative. In my culture for example, that is the norm and it's totally fine and there is nothing wrong with it. Same with vice versa. I agree with everything else you said though.
/r/ExRedPill23/12/21 07:30 PM
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Check out Alexander Grace's youtube channel. He looks for the truth and interviews women, while still treating them with respect. You will most likely find your answer in one of his videos. I can't find it or I would have linked it.
/r/ExRedPill23/12/21 03:12 PM
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but not every nice looking girl has the same ambitions to think in a really Machiavellian way like "I am in my prime being 18-25 years old and very attractive I must use this time to locate the best genetic match for my offspring and not commit until I find him". I agree with everything else but I think that this is a subconscious decision for most women or a much simpler thought like - "I have a better option."
/r/ExRedPill10/12/21 10:01 AM
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I disagree. In my case it is about a fundamental respect to women. Otherwise it is dehumanizing and we point it out very clearly. Because even if the women have no relation to us, if we see guys in our group talking about or treating women without respect, we correct them very quickly.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/21 01:46 AM
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I would like to point out that there is a "don't date our brothers or ex-boyfriends without permission" clause in the girl code too. So I don't think you can claim that it is purely about possessiveness. Otherwise you would have to acknowledge that women are possessive about the men in their life too.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/21 01:42 AM
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I like your analysis. Could you please explain the tenets of girl code that have disturbing psychological implications?
/r/ExRedPill21/11/21 02:24 AM
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Stop focusing on getting a girlfriend if it isn't working. There is more to life than just sex and romance. Find something you love to do or focus all that energy on school and hobbies. Go outside, try new things. Challenge yourself. I say this because I went through a similar problem. But the joy of hiking up a trail, or learning to ice skate, or play a new instrument, helped me realize there are many different sources of happiness.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/21 12:08 AM
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Alexander Grace's channel is more sane.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/21 12:02 AM
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I am a man and I do this too.
/r/ExRedPill11/10/21 01:01 AM
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Sorry to hear the relationship didn't work out. Hope you are able to work through your struggles and find someone. Good luck!
/r/ExRedPill11/10/21 12:59 AM
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Ethnically I am South Indian, but I grew up in America from 6 years of age. I wasn't even born in India.
/r/ExRedPill21/09/21 07:24 PM
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I completely agree, it is the same in my culture.
/r/ExRedPill20/09/21 10:32 PM
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I feel your pain. Good luck, dude!
/r/ExRedPill20/08/21 08:12 AM
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