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Men are services
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:46 AM
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I'm not clicking the link but there was no good way to phrase that sentence and I applaud you for trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 08:26 PM
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They want me to perform violence on behalf of their defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:51 PM
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I lost my virginity at your age, OP. I'd say honesty is the best policy here. The real challenge would be to not come off as desperate, but that has more to do with how you phrase it once the subject comes up. It's a date, you're gonna be nervous, anxious, whether you were experienced or not. Like, the air or desperation comes more from how you're framing the interaction in your head. You'll do better if you tell yourself you're not nervous because you're inexperienced, you're nervous because yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:43 PM
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So once they understood this problem men face, they adjusted their behavior and stopped dating across and up?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:44 PM
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Men should know, instinctively, that not all of them are worthy to procreate with. How many women have you met that empathize with this experience men should be instinctively having?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:29 PM
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If the situation were that specific and dire, the answer is easy for men. Ignore the weirdos like you did in middle school until they grow up and realize dreams don't come true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:14 PM
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Lmao you hate yourself and they're not gonna like you more for it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:10 PM
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I really think it's something to do with the societal expectation of competition between men, like women are competitive as well, but they can drop it if they see they can work together for compromise and mutual benefit, and no one will judge them for it. Men banding up to share work or resources, however, get emasculated, whether internally or externally. Society sees sharing the weight of a mutual goal as effeminate. Even when men are on a team we (are expected to) compete to be the MVP. The m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 08:46 PM
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It takes effort to go out, meet people, be likeable enough that people want to keep hanging out with you, have people over or organize get-togethers etc. Money. Not effort. Money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 08:35 PM
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Women are not exactly happier single. Make a post asking the other women on this sub, I don't think they'd agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 07:34 PM
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If this is true, we have to give incels the benefit of the doubt every single time. You can't say your online interactions are a valid lens through which to judge the opposite gender, while incels can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:02 PM
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Just to chime in on that other dude's opinion, yeah, absolutely! Especially if you have some kind of social anxiety. It's always good practice to second-guess or double-check your first instinct and even more so when dealing with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:51 PM
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I want to be part of a family that I don't have to "prove" myself to. I also don't want my lineage to end with the stories of several deadbeats in a row concluding with me as an antisocial, broke loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:49 PM
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Her: Ow, my eye! Why is it so thick? Me: Sorry it's my time of the month.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:23 AM
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Been there. It's better than nothing, but worse than almost anything else aside from outright abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:59 PM
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Lmao OP somehow got a 50-year-old commenting on every thread
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:03 PM
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You mean like women who equate an increasingly finite resource earned through time and physical effort with a mutually enjoyable bodily function?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:47 PM
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Which basically comes down to him paying for sex and companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:22 PM
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Then he should be free at that point to not spend money on anyone he's in a relationship with
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:14 PM
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Ok, let him cheat then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:11 PM
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Finances. I think the desire that women put out easily and often is the male equivalent of women expecting men to buy them things easily and often. A man is gonna run out of money far earlier than you run out of pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:04 PM
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I swear half the good questions on this sub are ruined because the OPs don't know English well enough to get their point across.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:13 PM
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I stay single and watch porn because I don't have the resources to sustain a relationship with another human being. I'm not striking out, I'm refusing to play until I get a bat somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 10:36 PM
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How emotionally mature can I be that my sexual imagination is active and vivid enough to masturbate to completion on impulse?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:09 AM
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Emotional maturity means you shall never be horny again
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:42 AM
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And in that case I'm dating a woman I'm mutually attracted to and I can feel like I "got it". I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing for my partner to get an ego boost from dating me, more flattering than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:23 PM
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I'm exceedingly skinny so I tend not to ask my partners to compare me with larger men. It depends on the reason too. There's a difference between not liking the aesthetic vs. making a moral judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:17 PM
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What was the argument, specifically? That being fat can be caused by genetics or illness or inaccessible nutrition just as much as it can be laziness or gluttony, and given the way obesity is discouraged, it's probably not gonna be a conscious choice in most cases. As someone who has always struggled to gain weight, I sympathize. And what did your preferences change from and to? I was afraid of being seen with a fat girl before loosening my preferences, as being physically smaller than your part…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:49 AM
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I changed my preferences as a teenager when I heard the whole 'fatphobia' argument and got an objective look at myself. That's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:06 AM
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Most of my exes could be described as ugly or fat, I was head over heels for the biggest one and still have trouble getting over her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:34 PM
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Your dad was a vet with combat experience and military benefits. You could've followed in his footsteps exactly and would still have had a harder time than him, because they're literally in the process of cutting those benefits further than they already have been. Anybody looking you as a prospect in this case would be factoring in the diminishing value of a military career.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:14 PM
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Oh fuck lmao well at least you got the 'h' in there
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:08 AM
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Phychopaths* homie. Your autocorrect is betraying you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:05 PM
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Because academic feminists do nothing to disavow the grifters and wave-riders using the label as a shield to hide their bigotry behind. 10 years ago feminism was about dismantling the mandate and hierarchy of gender roles and identity. A year ago it was about proving males were inherently predatory and dangerous to women. Feminism has been steadily becoming the Femishpere as yall continue to let the clowns run the circus.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:08 PM
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So start asking men out then
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 06:07 PM
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You could identify the most powerful 3 million people in the country, and that wouldn't be 1% of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:08 PM
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He's misattributing it. It's not femcels, it's radfems, there are 3 or 4 regulars on this sub alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:07 PM
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So what is?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:57 PM
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Why do yall not believe men can get crushes? It's always immediately, "You want absolutely nothing to do with this person other than feeling your penis in them." Like yes, there are women who I'll want to fuck the first time I see them. That feeling lasts 5 seconds and then starts to wane. Then I go through all the other stages of developing infatuation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:19 PM
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Luckily we aren't trying to date each other bro
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:22 AM
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I lost my voice yesterday and "chatgpt, hate women for me" got me squeaking
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:23 AM
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Low number of total sexual partners
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:43 AM
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If I'm being honest, I want to settle down with someone that matches my experience level as closely as possible so I don't feel self-conscious about what I bring to the table, sex or otherwise. If I'm having tons of sex, and she's having tons of sex, then there's no difference between us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:41 AM
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She gives him $5, he gives her back $6
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:50 PM
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Partially a joke. I've never felt more confident and good-looking and carefree than in the afterglow of psychedelics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 05:13 PM
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The male version of this is taking acid and shaving because seeing the hair on your face moving is starting to freak you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:56 PM
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OP, you have an unhealthy pedestalization of women going on if you truly are a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:56 PM
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As a premie myself, I'd say the biggest thing to pay attention to is his diet, make sure he's eating enough and getting the supplements he needs. I'm hitting 30 soon and I've been eating one large meal a day for most of my life, mostly because my appetite just doesn't go very far. But it's really hard trying to build muscle mass now, and I likely could've been taller/stockier with better posture if my dad was around to comment on what a growing boy needs, and maybe force me to eat or lift even w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:08 PM
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Cracking a cold one with the boys
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:11 PM
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This sounds like either white-knighting or a fetish. Some women are vile as individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:38 PM
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if youre making less than 250k a year, im sorry honey, but thats poor. Are you saying poor men are entitled to women? This is one of the most silver-spooned statements I've seen on this site and I'm hoping you're being facetious or I'm missing context. Poor people been fucking and marrying for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:51 PM
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It's like going to college to find a job. Will I be able to use this skillset in situations outside my career? Yes, but spending the time, money, and effort isn't worth it if I ultimately end up unemployed. I can be a better person to help my immediate family or community, but those people don't live with me, they aren't my partner, I didn't choose to commit my life to these specific people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:10 PM
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Yeah but the point is they can't look like the Rock without this very crucial piece. Single men don't want to "get closer" to being in a relationship. We want to know whether it's worth trying for in the first place. I don't wanna risk the damage from steroids, so I can decide to abandon that goal once I have the proper framing for what I'd need to do to achieve it. If I spend 5 years in the gym to look like a slightly fitter version of myself, I've failed the goal. I was trying to look like The…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:55 PM
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It's good advice the same way telling someone that wants to look like The Rock that they should get a gym membership, lift weights, and watch their diet, is good advice. You're leaving out the steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:33 PM
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Exactly. I was raised by a single mom and my dad didn't start figuring out how to be a responsible adult until my late 20s. I feel sorry for both of them being incompatible with each other, but I also blame both of them for ignoring each other's flaws until a kid was fully in the picture. My dad knew my mom was paranoid and neurotic when they started dating. My mom knew my dad was a reckless player who'd just left his first wife and kid when they started dating. They still got married and had me…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:12 PM
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Idk man, reading from this exchange, it sounds like you have a lot of shame built up around sex and attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 10:16 PM
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I already have to accept the assumption of criminality on the basis of my skin color and ethnicity. I already have to go out of my way to make yall feel comfortable and unintimidated. I'm not doing that for my gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:01 AM
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firing me because a certain amount of people find something I said distasteful is absolutely discrimination. Dude, you've had a job before, I know you know that's very much a part of the deal. I can't think of a job where this wouldn't apply, unless you're contractually obligated to be kept onboard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:41 PM
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I guess it just circles back to OP's question for me, because, say, choking alone, has become more locally prevalent in recent years by women requesting it, at least from what I've heard from average, run-of-the-mill guys I hang around. The other point I completely forgot to add is, I also have to wonder how popular Male/Female intercourse actually is in men's porn watching habits nowadays. The rise of uncensored social media, OnlyFans, and now some US states seeing the banning of porn streaming…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:22 PM
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Difference is we pay the consequences of the bad positions (painful), of the too large dick (painful), the aggressive choking (can be scary when done wrong and painful)… Is this exclusively a porn thing though? Like yes, obviously most people get exposed to the ideas for those positions and actions through porn, and I can definitely see the whole "uncomfortable position" problem still being common. But I don't know very many men who want to choke their partner during sex unless it's requested be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:00 PM
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Break it down further, which group of men commits the most violent crimes. Can you tell on sight?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:16 PM
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Almost everyone eventually does end up with a partner that they want Is it that, or that the people who die alone don't get their stories told?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 08:23 PM
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Sex tourism is unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:10 PM
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It's unhealthy for someone in a non-abusive relationship to keep divorce as a backburner option if they stand to gain more from their former partner than they entered the relationship with or earned on their own. Rich women don't often date poor men, but if men had a high rate of initiating divorces, it would be pragmatic for her to consider a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 10:18 PM
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The video's long but Contrapoints describes it as a negative aspect of American Puritan culture around sex, from what I can remember. Not as a diagnosis of men, but as a descriptor of how men and our sexuality are forced to be seen in the evolution of religious purity culture in the modern day. She's saying we're educated and socialized to accept it as a framework to shape and act out our respective gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:25 PM
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I've had the cops called on me for staying in my parked car for 10 minutes at the park. I've had cops question me for talking in my friend's parked car for 10 minutes. Some people look suspicious in areas where they look like they "don't belong", compared to others. You may look like a model or you may just blend in with the crowd in the places you go. Or your local culture may just be more trusting. But you also might be one of those people who calls the cops because someone else looks suspicio…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:09 PM
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not that they are somehow creeping others out. Looking a certain way can creep people out. People being creeped out doesn't mean they're justified in feeling that way. My skin color creeps some people out, doesn't mean they're right to call the cops on me for being there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:21 PM
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Funnily enough, shitty feminists blame men for everything
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:52 PM
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I do wonder if everybody involved in these studies identifies as straight, because I know a lot of gen Z women who went through a "phase" of dating other women as a break from men. That probably pumps their numbers up just because most straight guys would never experiment that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:47 PM
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Not sure I can argue much in good faith with someone who considers themselves above the use of common language and grammar. You Typing With Unnecessary Spaces Gives The Impression Of Haughty Self- Seriousness
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:41 AM
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It's harder to focus on the discussion and topic when you type out a statement that can fit in two lines as if they're stanzas in a badly written poem. mY sTaTEMeNTs ArE COmPlEteLy leGIBlE iF yOU wORk hArDEr tO rEaD tHEm
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:25 AM
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Goddamn dude, you know sentences go next to each other right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:28 AM
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Intelligence and decisiveness. I gotta trust she can make good choices without my input.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:19 PM
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Damn, that's an extremely concise explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 09:19 AM
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Man v. Bear with the genders switched
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 09:23 AM
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Sure, I wouldn't see any appeal in casual sex if I could reliably find commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:04 PM
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Honestly you're better off making a Tumblr or BlueSky account than trying to find these communities on more general social media. Most sites are set up to be engagement farms for the general public so you're going to find way more layman, uneducated takes on here, Instagram, YouTube, X, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:34 PM
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Again, I'd rather not go into your post history to check, don't really have any interest in trying to put you on blast. I'm just kinda vouching for what the other guy said, you're one of the most consistent names you can find arguing on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:26 PM
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Not gonna go through your post history, but I've read enough of your posts in passing to see you generalize men, like all men, several times
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:04 PM
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You don't deserve racist comments but you totally make inflammatory, generalizing posts on the regular here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 06:37 PM
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But Simon Cowell played up the shtick for attention/ratings and was publicly perceived as the quintessential asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:33 PM
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Reading this made me realize I haven't heard anything about Sugar Babies like all year.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:55 PM
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I've met maybe 5 people irl from age 20-28 who would know what the redpill is, and less than half would agree with its premise. College kids at 18-22 are definitely gonna be more immersed in those kinds of online topics. I'll bet you'll find more peers at 40 who know what Skibidi Toilet is than know what RP is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:45 PM
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That's 45% so yes, nearly half, but less than half. And they may be outdated in established married couples, but not in the expectations of unmarried and single women. I'm sure those standards soften once you have experience sharing a life with your chosen partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:24 PM
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You might wanna ask some women then. Hell, ask this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 08:08 PM
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Where do you live that you only know women who are earning for themselves ?! The South. The majority of single women I know are studying and/or working to survive, or working for financial independence when they do enter a relationship. The more conservative ones work to contribute to their parent's households. What physical harm are men routinely protecting their families from? What physical dangers do single women and children face in public?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 08:05 PM
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Only if you choose a woman with those values On one side, a feminist will work and earn money for herself while single. On the other a tradwife will stay unemployed so that I'm the sole breadwinner. The only reliable group of women I've seen that will consistently earn to provide for the relationship are masc. lesbians. Protect from what? Physical harm that can be mitigated by the timely intervention of the largest and most intimidating or combat effective member of the group, up to and includin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:37 PM
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Traditionally, family is a privelege for men. You have to earn it to get it, and you have to earn it to keep it. If I want to start a family, I am expected to become the kind of man who can fully support and protect one. I'm not a viable option if I'm not independent and then some. Women historically were made dependent and incompetent by the patriarchal family unit, they're expressing their relatively young liberation by becoming independent and competent for themselves, that includes financial…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:21 PM
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Whether she has a job doesn't change my responsibilities within the relationship. I still need to have a job and to use the majority of my income to support us as a couple. Whether I have a job does change her responsibilities within the relationship because she is not expected to use the majority of her income to support me. If she has the option to pick a wealthy partner, she may never have to work again. If I had the option to pick a wealthy partner, I'm working till I'm 70 regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:58 PM
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Ma'am you're literally saying we made up the concept of love as a labor scam. That's dehumanizing rhetoric. It's the opposite of pedestalizing, you're saying half the population that's ever existed are incapable of experiencing and processing emotion the way your half does. Like, where does this assumption leave gay couples?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:49 PM
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Oh we not taking our meds this Christmas, no sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:28 AM
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This is also a haves vs have-nots kind of thing. When I was a virgin, sex was my main motivation because I wanted to prove to myself and others that I was normal. Now that I've had it, I can focus on commitment without worrying that my inexperience would be a dealbreaker with someone who was otherwise compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:49 AM
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I mean, their point also doesn't count for the fact many of these guys are virgins or minimally experienced themselves. Like most straight guys wanted a virgin GF in high school, because who wants to get compared to your partner's ex when you're in the same building as them 5 days a week?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:45 AM
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You are working and being exploited by capitalists not by women as a collective. Why is it that you expect women as a collective to give you something when all else being equal they're in the same or worse position than you. Most of us are in the same boat as you I made an edit that partially addresses this crack in the logic but I'll explain in more detail here because yeah, I totally forgot to address that. I, in my own personal view am not sure exactly what it is that causes it, might be capi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:56 PM
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Ah a man-created problem where women still get blamed anyways. I don't see these RP/BP be upset at (mostly male) capitalists unless it's time to make a dumb comparison between them and women. Women would be class-traitors in this scenario. They partner up with the top percentage of men, representing the bourgeoisie, in order to secure personal wealth and security at the expense of everyone else, or share said benefits with other women only. Like if I were a red piller, my worldview would be that…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:18 PM
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Not the same guy but that there is a complex system upheld by capitalist which perpetuates his poverty. There's no equivalent ""subjective""" realization for men who can't get dates. That's basically what the redpill is for those that follow it. They believe there's a societal system in place, a consensus in strategy between women, to only give certain men the right to a life partnership, a family and a legacy, in exchange for the resources those men gained through exploiting everybody else's la…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:47 PM
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What if a black woman rejected you for being black?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:45 PM
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Male libration movements don't work because it's only a moral crime to kill the vulnerable. We start marching and making demands as a group, we will be mowed down unceremoniously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:31 AM
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How can men "dismantle" this system? Violence. They expect violence from us. Women can dismantle the patriarchy by supporting each other, working hard, and ignoring men. But the end result has to be a violent revolution to bring down current power structures and enforce gender equality, and women will refuse to put themselves in harm's way if that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:49 PM
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My ex told me I was the best thing that ever happened to her, after we broke up. Sometimes circumstances just keep people from getting what or who they want, regardless of intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:00 PM
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50 sit ups is what most men should be able to do minimum. We established I'm lazy dawg, I'm saying my frame is easily maintained if I want it to be. Like rn I'm trying to bulk on what I told you was a limited budget, but I could do the minimum and get visible abs, because I'm not fat myself as you suggested. I really don't want to "to each his own" this but I can't describe the benefits of sex with a fat/chubby/big/thick woman in detail without getting awkward and pornographic, so to be short, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 09:54 PM
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My dude, I literally have a flat stomach, like I could do 50 sit ups every day this week if I wanted visible abs next week. Lazy, yes, I don't go to the gym because my job is a lot of walking and some lifting, plus doesn't pay well enough to justify subscribing to a membership. Idk what skinny girls you're fucking whose pelvis bones aren't knucklebumping the insides of your thigh joints when you up in there, but it happened enough when I was younger that it's almost too much work to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 09:27 PM
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Slowly and methodically to avoid a hairline fracture in the hip?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 09:13 PM
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It's both reasons, dude. As someone who left more progressive online spaces due to to being shut down, I still know these grandstanding manosphere idiots have nothing of substance to contribute. Because I listened to the people in the progressive spaces while I was still in them. I internalized what was being taught, to the point that I can recognize when someone's trying to misrepresent it to gain a sympathetic audience. A lot of these young guys can't handle being called out by women or gay fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:55 PM
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You must enjoy a bruised pelvis.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:40 PM
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I envy guys who find obese woman attractive, seems like they are living on easy mode. As a part of the "Gotta be 2-Something to do something" crowd, it's harder than you think. You still gotta be physically bigger than them in many cases, sometimes it's even more important to them because of their size. And it's pretty much not worth the trouble if her social circle is hot and/or skinny, she'll inflate her standards to match theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:35 PM
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I get confused on this sub when men make it seem like women can't physically be attracted to a guy's earning potential. It's objectification. Fat women don't appreciate being reduced to the sum of their circumstances and what they can provide sexually. Broke men don't like being reduced to the sum of their circumstances and what they can provide monetarily. Same way there's a fully realized person in an overweight body, there's a fully realized person wearing those empty pockets. As your anecdot…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:18 PM
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I think the 6-6-6 thing is a simplified version of a bunch of problems compounding on each other. It's a better rule of thumb than it is a solid diagnosis of one's personal issues. But generally, visibly embodying these cultural masculine Ideals will give you way more opportunities to recognize and get out of, a situation where you don't get dates or sex. A lot of redpillers used to bring up Just-be-white or JBW, and I feel like it's kind of the same here. It's not describing the exact situation…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:36 PM
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If you don't trust strange men, don't date
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:29 PM
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I haven't been "officially" friendzoned since my teen years but it did happen a couple times at least. I would find out a girl liked me, as in wanted to pursue a romantic relationship but recognized it was out of social norms to ask me out, we'd get in contact, start talking, she might even directly confirm she was attracted to me but wanted to continue getting to know me before committing to labels, we would continue talking, I would escalate or outright ask her out, she'd ask if we could remai…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:16 AM
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I don't agree with the guy you're replying to but I get what he's saying. Feminists, as a general group, refuse on principle to help men with problems that only affect men. They might privately oppose a policy or gendered norm but they won't speak against it publicly until it's starting to affect them negatively. One example is the expectation and weaponization of male's capacity for violence. They want to curb rates of male violence because everyone else is vulnerable, whereas male-on-male viol…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:23 PM
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It's basically someone that helps you put some order in your life. Not to pry but can you explain a little more about this aspect? I've actually been looking for something like this and figured I'd have to try one of those "life-coach" scams or something. You telling me that's what therapy's been this whole time?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:50 PM
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Nah she'd had way more experience with men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:12 AM
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Women should pick the bear over any human if those are the underlying fears. But that wasn't the question that was asked nor the answer women gave. Humans are inherently the most dangerous living thing on the planet (to our knowledge), by virtue of our intellect alone. It's like that comic book debate about which superhero could beat Batman, and whether or not he has prep time. Realistically, he's just a normal dude who would get offed in seconds compared to an invulnerable god-alien, but "prep …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:48 AM
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A bear does not rape, coerce, drug, pressure, blame, black mail, kidnap, or torture their victims. Cardi B admitted to doing most of this stuff in one night.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:01 PM
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Lmfao well looking at it that way certainly does lighten it up a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:28 PM
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I been there and I'll do you one worse, she ends up being polyromantic and cheats on you with a butch woman that looks manlier than you, also turns out she's only asexual towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:26 PM
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Having negative self esteem is sometimes the only way to be objective. I can't just like myself, I'm objectively a failure, I am years behind the milestones that my peers are hitting, there are reasons I'm romantically unsuccessful. Whether or not I can fix those problems, refusing to acknowledge them for the sake of my self esteem doesn't help me. Liking myself as a failure would make me a douchebag.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:05 PM
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That's because men are fine laying out the reasons for all our collective behaviors. You already have hacks and rules-of-thumb to apply to a vast majority of men when you're looking to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:42 PM
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I'm sorry this is some of the wildest mental gymnastics I've read on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:50 PM
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She helped torture Time Drake Batman has never overcome the loss of his beloved pet time-traveling dragon
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:48 PM
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Lmfao she could be a bodybuilding lesbian granny, if somebody's audibly desperate to get a weight off them, and I'm in a position to do so without endangering myself, I'm probably gonna freeze for 5 seconds and then go help. Especially if no one else is around, and I'd honestly be encouraged by cctv, if anything. Whether it's some kind of setup would be recorded by a third party.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 02:40 AM
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If you've spent your whole life being attractive we're gonna look at people and attention very differently. That's part of being out of someone's "league." If she's getting asked out or flirted with everyday in situations I have no influence over, eventually a better offer than me will come along.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:50 PM
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If the opinions of others factor in at all, it's actually whether she's too hot for me, or if my friends would be as interested in her, or if she gets so much sexual/romantic attention that I can't trust her to stay exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:57 PM
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Some of us are mentally ill, some even severely so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 10:40 PM
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... Uh yeah... It's a pretty typical response to feel insecure about how you compare to the unattainable (and in this case dangerous and predatory) preferences held by people in your dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 10:37 PM
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I'm wondering if he's saying Brotherhood=Manosphere, Sisterhood=Female In-Group Bias
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:59 PM
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You've completely lost me, please elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:42 PM
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Bruh, I used to watch this guy's lectures semi-religiously. According to him, performing the traditional male gender role is being ready to fight to the death when entering any conversation with another male. The only objectively kind thing I remember him pushing is "smile at children."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:19 PM
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I don't think addressing a toxic societal ideal is the same as being intent on changing your partner, and are you willing to stick to that logic? You can only truly love someone if you want nothing about them to change ever at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 07:29 PM
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If this post were just about fucking, the obvious solution is to just lie to women until you nut, then leave
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 04:48 PM
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No, the exaggeration of TRP's popularity makes your statement false. Whether I like it or not is mostly irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:56 PM
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Most people, even dumb men, know Tate is a mentally ill liar. Most men have never heard of TRP. You know this is a false equivalence with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:25 PM
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FUCK, NO. Not even for a night. It's like they cover you in a tarp and decorated it with all the things they really want. You can be staring them point blank in the face, making eye contact. They're not looking at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:55 AM
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Because tearing down the gender role requires physical violence. When all other options are exhausted, the men who were given crumbs by those in power will physically put their lives on the line to protect those crumbs than join the people who have been forced to eat garbage. We can't enforce tolerance toward those who can't fulfill the gender role, without being somewhat engaged in the gender role we're trying to escape. Men reenforce societal norms through violence or the threat of it, it's wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:26 AM
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There aren't any accepted avenues to get empathy for men during the time they are facing a problem, other than pity, that was my original point. Men are required by the gender role to suffer in silence until they do something about the problem themselves, good or bad. You don't ask for help as a man, it's an admission of failure to perform the gender role and compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:26 PM
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The intention of pity is to create acceptance through awkwardness The intention of pity is to draw attention. Homeless people, amputee veterans, abandoned children, these people are pitiful, but not because they're awkward. They need help that you don't have the capacity to give, but now you know they're suffering and you're not (in the same way). Empathy is mentally putting yourself in their shoes, pity is that gut feeling before that if the problem is bad enough, it's looking down from the hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:42 PM
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The only way to compel others to empathize with men's mental health struggles as they happen is through pity. You can do something positive about it and be admired after the fact, or do something negative and be demonized after the fact. Until then, you're expected to do your part to keep the world turning, more resources are dedicated to replacing you when you break than fixing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 09:59 PM
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The only way to compel others to empathize with men's mental health struggles as they happen is through pity. You can do something positive about it and be admired after the fact, or do something negative and be demonized after the fact. Until then, you're expected to do your part to keep the world turning, more resources are dedicated to replacing you when you break than fixing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 09:58 PM
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Men here say they would never rape. Oh really, so if you were part of the Red Army in the 1940s and war rape was not only accepted but actually encouraged, can you say with 100% certainty that you wouldn't do it? I'm sorry, this made me pinch the bridge of my nose and laugh irl. "You wouldn't rape? Oh really, so if you were a completely different person in a completely different time, society, and circumstance, can you say with 100% certainty" Like, dawg, ma'am, please, be fr.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:50 PM
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Please don't pretend like black women don't have a list of physical requirements just as, if not more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:32 PM
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Not really, picking on someone with no support is a pretty common tactic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:02 PM
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don't care about women's hobbies, careers, education, etc. We don't care because they're not prerequisites to romantic or sexual attraction. I care about those things after I am initially attracted to a woman, and establish chemistry. Anything shallower than that is a crush or lust or infatuation. When you make friends, do they have to share a hobby, or have a career you approve of, or be educated, or can you just vibe with some people without knowing much about them? For me, it depends on the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 10:39 PM
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This kinda feels like a parallel between incels/femcels, and Tradwifves/"High Value Males". Like one is an inability to perform a gender role and the other is being absolutely adherent to it, but they're both insecure in a lot of the same ways, and can get taken advantage of by a lot of the same strategies. The bar is on the floor for Femcels because they believe no man can reach it, but it's also on the floor for Tradwives because they believe that's as high as it can go.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:40 PM
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Lol OP's title describes my dad spot on. Dude starts at least two arguments a day with his wife, but she's the same way so they hit an equilibrium where neither one feels attacked. It weirdly works out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:31 PM
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Bro, you can name Future, he's not sending anybody after you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:55 PM
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I think part of the point is women as a group don't have to deal with approaching or being rejected, and forcing them into that role would change their expectations around it. It's like how lesbians will attest to a lot of the shitty behavior from women that straight men have to deal with, because they go through it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:32 PM
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"Sex is a need" is a bad argument because it devolves into semantics. Sexless and "undesirable" men should be entitled to the same amount of social respect as men who have sex or are "desirable". That's really the whole argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:11 PM
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Lmfao not even if I could afford it regularly, it'd be delusional to consider myself so special and elite that I require those specific parameters for a fulfilling relationship, especially in a pool of men that ticked all the same boxes i did.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:14 PM
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I'm sorry what? Please break down your argument for me, I'm a bit slow today.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:36 PM
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I'm not considering dating any single fathers, friend. And if I was in the market for deadbeat men, taxes are nowhere near the front of my priority list.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:04 PM
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I'd also consider the fact that tons of the current younger generations are children to single mothers themselves. If I was with a single mom, I'd be constantly putting myself in the shoes of this kid who's taking an obvious backseat to mom's dating life and personal fulfillment, because I have personal experience with a parent doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:16 AM
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I feel like it has way more to do with location and local culture than the general argument likes to acknowledge. I've only seen this as a "mass social issue" in places where money talks for the average civilian. Atlanta, LA, Vegas, Houston, all have an atmosphere where you feel like you can't walk down to the corner store without looking like you're heading to the club. Women are more likely to objectify themselves as a luxury to be bought, guys are more likely to front as luxury consumers. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:57 AM
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Not that I don't believe you but you see 19 year olds financially supporting 28 year old dudes? That math ain't really mathing for me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:19 AM
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You must have a very kind and progressive community around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:01 AM
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Sure, whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:17 PM
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It is pathological, that's kind of the point. Anger and contentment are the only emotional states we can express without others losing respect for us. So sadness turns to frustration, turns to anger. Loneliness, confusion, disappointment, betrayal, grief, all turn to frustration, then anger. It's more acceptable/normalized for me to say I'd like to kick the shit out of my boss, than wishing out loud that he wouldn't be so mean to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:05 PM
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I'd see no problem with it as long as I find her attractive. Been in that situation before and it was good while it lasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:24 AM
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So feminism is to benefit women only, not to dismantle patriarchy to benefit society as a whole?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:50 PM
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Thought the whole point was the removal of gender-based oppression. That's like black folks fighting to exclude Asians and Latinos from assistance programs because they didn't get it as bad as we did.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:22 PM
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Not the same guy, but most of us learn after puberty that our boners can't be trusted to accurately judge a situation or person. "Tingles" and "icks" just sound like a mystified version of thinking with your genitalia.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:39 PM
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I don't really find the life experience of sex all that valuable. Intimacy, yes, but just the sex itself, no, that doesn't really impart all that much wisdom. As someone else pointed out, everyone wants to be desirable, but triple-digit body-counts? How much are you learning about people in the 1-2 months you're fucking them before you leave and find someone else to start fresh with? I wouldn't look up to a man with triple digit body-counts for the same reasons. It demonstrates a lack of self aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:56 PM
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Where's the /s at bro, don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 09:37 PM
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So most people are NPC's making you, a Player Character. Now when most people are one thing, and you are another, that generally makes you the unusual one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:52 PM
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"More pleasant and feminine" how? Most of the 20 year olds I know are self absorbed and immature, as college aged people tend to be before they gain experience around their peers as adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:50 PM
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I'm also not talking about pedophiles, I'm talking about taking advantage of someone else's naivety and lack of experience in adult relationships. Older guys go for inexperienced girls so they don't have a point of comparison to other adult partners when they enter the relationship. Cougars get side eyed by other women, for the same reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:42 PM
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Most people don't think of other people as NPC's
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:37 PM
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You're right bro, I just made it a jailable offense for you to pursue women too young to have a reliably informed opinion of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:35 PM
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Shit, I don't know anyone over 40 who would even know what the red pill is, I know like 2 guys over 30 who know and think it's stupid. I really feel like they're a very loud minority, just hypervisible because of the constant discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:31 PM
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First girl I ever had sex with was 21, her weight is more evenly distributed now several years later and her face is more womanly and less childlike. She was pretty then, she's pretty now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:28 PM
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👍 Not even gonna say you're wrong considering where you're coming from, but just keep in mind there's tons and tons of kids, teens, and chronically online adults drowning out the voices and opinions of men IRL just to be edgy and provocative for some attention. It's a phase most of us go through and most of us grow out of, I don't know any man irl over 30 who wouldn't get at least a side eye from other guys for admitting he only pursues 20 year olds, we know exactly what that says about them whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:25 PM
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Lol I can tell you right now, unequivocally, that OP does not represent most men. This is one of the most confident fringe takes I've seen on this sub, but he don't speak for the rest of us. A 20-year-olds body isn't even fully developed in a lot of cases, that's a dealbreaker for a ton of us right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:17 PM
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It wouldn't have been that bad if she wasn't the 3rd girl to start dating other women after breaking up with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:12 AM
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Lmfao I did that, she cheated on me with a butch chick
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:55 AM
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Do me next
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:45 AM
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Bars, raves and clubs all have muddy boundaries of consent because most people in there are under the influence. Plus women have been saying for years how they go to bars, raves and clubs to have fun, not to get hit on by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:39 AM
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... Did you just make up, and then judge, a scenario for a dude in someone else's anecdote?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:29 AM
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Just commenting so I can read this later
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:54 PM
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It wasn't until I reached around 18 when i started to realize a lot of my peers were losing their virginities. Core memory unlocked. My classmates were lying about losing their virginities by the end of elementary school. I definitely joined in. They also had "boyfriends" and "girlfriends" by 1st or 2nd grade so yeah, the expectation kinda started early.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:42 PM
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Admitting you have a skewed perception of a large group of people usually isn't a good thing by itself in egalitarian social justice circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:23 PM
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Bruh I can't believe you can't see how much cooler "Scouts" sounds than "Boy Scouts." Kid gets back to school and has to deny accusations of scouting for boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:13 AM
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You really couldn't just take the W could you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:37 PM
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Part of it is that predators look for targets, part of it is that some men (I'd guess most) will also have low self esteem, part of it is that arrogance can be read as confidence, and you might get stuck with someone who's selfish and egotistic as opposed to competent and dependable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:35 PM
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You want my ex's number?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:49 PM
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Not the same guy, not sure I agree with everything OP is saying, but women will give "he didn't make me feel protected" as a valid reason for a rejection or breakup.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:51 AM
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Big, internationally significant and largely preventable disaster will pop up, men will have to put our own issues aside again to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:58 PM
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How did you get here without reading the original post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:32 PM
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If feminism is about dismantling forced gender roles and expectations, then basing the premise of an exercise in empathy on gender essentialism is, well, bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:02 AM
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Which is why I later compared it to a stabbing, because fault doesn't lie with the victim, but the biological imperative of survival does. Your personal sexual autonomy isn't mine to guard. If my role is to help secure the tools you need to protect your autonomy, you need to use the tools, not because the fault lies with you if you fail, but because your sexual autonomy is violated when you fail. As I stated before, the failure to secure your own safety isn't a moral failing or an admission of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:49 AM
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Not sure who you're agreeing with here, I'm objectivizing the crime, not the victim, or the perpetrator, to show innocence of blame doesn't guarantee safety as a marginalized person. (Or at least that was my ending point)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:43 AM
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If I'm not wearing my seatbelt and I get killed by a drunk driver, the knowledge that wearing my seatbelt would've made me safer is not blaming me for the actions of the drunk driver. The driver already made their decision, they're still at fault, but I could've taken steps to further secure my life, it's a statement of fact, it doesn't assign blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:16 AM
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So if I'm in a place or situation where I know people are already likely to have made the prior decision to rob somebody, I tuck my jewelry, or don't get into the situation without making my jewelry secure. Because presenting them with an opportunity to act on the decision they already made, will lead to them targeting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:57 AM
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Wearing expensive jewelry in public without tucking it may "lead" to me getting robbed, so I don't wear expensive jewelry. Getting robbed doesn't mean I was intending to get robbed, it means someone else decided to rob me, and took the advantages they saw. I can mitigate my own disadvantage by tucking my chain, thus making myself less of a target to the person deciding on who to rob.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:38 AM
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Man. There might be enough physical capability and survival knowledge between us to at least form a survival/escape plan. Might as well give up hope with the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:30 PM
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Women in stilettos: Cute heels! You: Fucking impale me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:27 PM
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Didn't do much approaching in my teens or early 20s, then that Gillette commercial came out, there were thinkpieces on the topic a year, that basically convinced me it was better for my reputation to stop approaching than trial-and-error my way into being competent at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:24 PM
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I have no idea what you're describing, because OP hasn't posted an unbiased source, but over half my family are active or retired teachers, you're not gonna get very far describing policy decisions made by Betsy DeVos in a positive light to me. Feminists could be wrong about everything else, but if they're opposing Betsy DeVos making decisions of behalf of all US public schools, I'm with them. Kinda prefer my education secretaries to have experience attending or working at a public school.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:50 PM
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That remains to be seen until OP posts a second source
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:39 PM
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"To summarize, the most pervasive effects of the new regulations are as follows: 1.Critical truth-seeking procedures are no longer required, and schools are incentivized to abandon them 2.Definitions of misconduct are broader, vaguer, and misconduct determinations are more subjective" This is not an objective reading. If OP wants to educate us before he makes his point then his source can't form the reader's opinion for them. I can't take a biased source on good faith as my first exposure to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:03 AM
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The majority of them are 17-23, they have 2 or less voting cycles to their names. They won't be involved in regular civic duty because they're still trying to figure their lives out. The word "Title 9" means next to nothing to the average male teen, it's like Terms and Conditions. As long as I don't do anything obviously fucked up, it won't affect me in the time I have to spend under these rules. With all the shit I had to figure out in college, avoiding a false rape accusation on campus was pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:56 AM
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How old are you that you feel this personally affected by this? I'm not trying to make you look bad, but I can't relate to the dread you seem to feel for this new law. Maybe post a less biased source so we know what you're actually talking about? I'm not going to inform myself with an opinion piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:43 AM
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Why doesn't anyone care? Lmao yeah that's a great look, a ton of college students mass protesting an anti-rape law. Totally makes college aged dudes seem harmless in that light, at their college, where the women are. Definitely will help them make a good impression on the women they'll be living around for 4 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:34 AM
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There's no healthy safe spaces for non-GBTQ men. This isn't coming from an anti-gay perspective, but they're literally the only protected class of cis men right now. No one else really has a space for us to shed the expectations of traditional masculinity, and performing said masculinity forbids us from helping each other. We have to dive headfirst past a pool of TERFS, Trauma victims, and clout chasers to even find a community that acknowledges some of our problems as external. And it's made cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 05:53 AM
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I can't believe you made one comment and dude went immediately racial with it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:42 AM
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An especially aggressive dog, by itself, excluding the largest outlier breeds, pretty much can't kill a fully abled grown man who's fighting back. If it's a fight to the death, adult human's gonna win. If you're desensitized to violence, theoretically you could kill a dog before it does any real damage to you. You're lasting about 10 seconds fighting a bear empty-handed no matter who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:47 PM
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For some of the dudes I've met that are into this, it's about control, like they'd pretty much be considered abusive if their partner wasn't into it or even explicitly asking for it. For other dudes, it's because they're sheltered and think they'll have an extremely committed and loyal relationship with someone who's just as naive because their parents did it. They don't see the struggle and compromise and judgement their parents went through when they made the decision to stay committed to each…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:02 AM
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You ever seen those cringe videos of couples baby-talking to each other? Sometimes it's a DDLG fetish, which like... Ok, to each their own. But sometimes that's the entire dynamic of their relationship. You'll almost never hear the woman use her neutral speaking voice, it'll always have that pitched-up vocal fry like she's imitating a toddler, and she's completely dependent on her partner to regulate her emotional state. If she comes home frustrated, he has to calm her down and validate her. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:53 PM
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Self-infantilization as a response to problems or stress. If it's a fetish I usually won't judge, but if your actual response to real life problems is "I'm baby!", then I really don't like you as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:38 PM
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Nah actually, for a little more than half of them, excluding children, I'd say it'd be a fair fight
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:25 AM
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Idk man, I know some (trained) women my size who can demonstrably beat my ass
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:16 AM
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I'm barely stronger than a woman, the intimidation comes from the fact that I'm black, so idk if this would even make my situation any better
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:07 AM
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Who are we talking about here? You friends with a lot of single men over 30? Edit: In East Texas?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:48 PM
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Oh you must not live in the south
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:37 PM
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Late 20s, like 80% of the single men I know care very little if at all about race and very little about shade when it comes to who they're trying to fuck or spend time with. That number might dip 10-15% in her region, but we're in the same state. I'm talking to OP specifically with that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:36 PM
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It's a preference partially informed and reenforced by the people around you. Tons of guys don't date fat girls, buff girls, tall girls, etc. not because each of those individual women are unattractive to him, but because he doesn't want to be seen with someone of that group, let alone marry or have kids with them. Tons of those same guys abandon or grow out of those hardline preferences when they find someone mutually attractive in that group who meets every preference except for that one dealb…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:27 PM
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And while I don’t deny that women obviously get more matches/likes— this take is literally only centering a specific group of women. Women with light skin. I’m a 20 year old black woman and I learned early in life that I don’t fit the beauty standard. I used to think I was average but now I’m just pretty convinced that I’m ugly. By the time you're 30, most men will have matured enough to examine their own biases around colorism and race. In the meantime, ask your homegirls how they feel about li…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:49 PM
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This. I've been waiting over a decade now for the Gen X and older millennial Feminists to challenge other women's expectation of performative masculinity from men, but they only seem to care about changing the standards men are held to when they put women in danger. Once women are out of harms way, most Feminists won't concern themselves with improving men's QOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:05 PM
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The manosphere itself can't really be compared directly to feminism, they're not in the same class. The manosphere is an ideological pipeline with a very wide mouth, it's meant to lead you into a more concrete authoritarian belief system. Saying it's the catalyst for violent action is like saying makeup tutorials will make you a TERF, there are steps in between that are important factors in where you end up ideologically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:59 AM
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Better comparison is probably historical military leaders. Everyone knows a guy who can recall every detail of Alexander The Great's or Caesar's or Hitler's personal life and thoughts outside of conquest. And those guys usually aren't even effective leaders, much like celebrity-obsessed people are rarely charming or charismatic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:11 PM
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People would seek knowledge for the sake of raising their score for about a decade before the scammers and grifters find a way to fake it, putting us back where we are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:05 AM
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Not worth sorting through them to find someone compatible enough to spend my entire life and raise children with. I can make friends with a conservative, they're not making any direct decisions about my family. A partner/spouse is gonna have a lot more influence and I don't need us disagreeing on things like basic decency and respect for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 12:33 AM
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Conservatives in my state don't like either of the cultures I belong to. Conservatives outside of my state dislike us slightly less.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:58 PM
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Seeing a lot of dudes prefer conservative women because they're afraid of a man-hating mindset. I prefer liberals because I'd have to abandon my values, deny my family and reject my culture to date a conservative
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:14 PM
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You've never had a breakup due to circumstance?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:50 AM
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Lmao I wouldn't frame it that way, but a mutually consensual short-term fling or two can be very enlightening in terms of what you want in a long-term, more serious relationship, so you have less chance of fucking up when you do find someone that meets those criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 12:33 AM
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Lol Saffinated and Irish teacher, assemble!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 04:19 AM
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did listening to those voices affirm what you were experiencing in real life? Every girl/woman I've dated has either been emotionally, physically, or sexually abused by a former male partner or male authority figure. My own mom has told me she'd rather stay single the rest of her life than try and find someone else compatible were there any meaningful women in your life that you could ask “hey is this true?” is there any such thing as a “universal” truth that applies to a whole group of people a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:47 PM
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I'm genuinely curious what would cause some men to believe otherwise (other than what I assume is a lack of meaningful male-female socialization and relationship building, ideally stemming from early childhood). Most men haven't been exposed to intersectional feminism, we learn from the fringes and loudest voices in the room, try to lurk in relevant conversations. For my age group that was Tumblr. At least once a day I was seeing a post about how men need to leave women alone, men are statistica…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:16 AM
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Weirdly enough I would vote for that, or at least sign up for it or whatever, but I wouldn't want any woman I'm with doing the same thing because, like OP, I also prefer voluptuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:42 PM
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Fashion maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:07 PM
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Jeeeezus I've never seen the male experience broken down so accurately on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:10 PM
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In the same way, I myself would never engage in MMA competitively though I enjoy watching it. I also wouldn't really like to be a pornstar.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:06 PM
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Might not be just therapy, but some people don't learn emotional maturity and empathy, or how to decenter themselves and their wants, and they need to be taught these things or have experiences that shake them out of an entitled mindset. Their standards for other people in all of their relationships might reflect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 08:15 PM
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I kind of aim to settle, I figure it's the healthiest way for me to look at it. I have an ideal in mind that I know I can't get because I'm not at my ideal point. If peak me is a 10, I'm like a 5 or 6. Having a woman with me who's also a 10 is unrealistic, I have to look for other 5's and 6's, with the goal that we can build each other up to 7's or 8's, for ourselves, each other, and hopefully children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 07:51 PM
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Some of us like cellulite brother
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:35 AM
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You can call out Saffinated by name, it's not illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:35 PM
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"my father... Was a drinker... And a fiend..."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 12:20 AM
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Gain 30 pounds, try to find a slightly better job
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 10:34 PM
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On the individual level, you just need to be the top 20%. This is achievable for any individual man, Big dawg, I can't see how your math is mathing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 11:35 AM
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Both confirm and disprove. The women in my immediate, smaller family are generally more stoic, introspective and self-aware. The women from my grandparents' siblings' families are generally more vapid and status-oriented. The women in my immediate family are more Nancy Drew or Professor McGonagall, the others are more Mean Girls, Golden Girls, or Sex and the City.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 07:28 AM
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There's no strategy, you're overthinking it. They don't have to develop a vetting process when they can always find someone they want, and fall back on someone they have if they can't get who they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:20 PM
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I don't know how to even paint a picture of it for someone who has always lived like that, but we're so sheltered from violence. I've been punched once in elementary school and even that is probably the exception for girls. I'd like to add that there's this concept that only women can be "victims" of violence in a sense, because there's no expectation for effective self-defense in yall's case. The first time I got punched in school, I got put in kickboxing classes. If someone robbed me or assaul…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:53 AM
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Don't be surprised if you get a notification in the middle of the night. Decompressing on GT7 right now but I wanna respond to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:46 AM
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Aight, I'm back. Work was a mf so I'm glad I didn't stress myself thinking of examples right before bed. I'll try to give some that I see a lot on this sub. Women being put on a societal pedestal. Tons of guys think this pedestal was built somewhere in the last 200 years by feminism. But trad wives are on that same pedestal, in fact it's higher up and narrower. By and large, women don't want to be put on a pedestal because they can't step off of it even when it makes them uncomfortable. Men's ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:16 AM
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It's 12:11 right now, I have work in the morning. No dude, I'm not gonna go through the whole "debate me" thing. Move on if you don't agree with me, I have no interest in changing your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:12 AM
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A fuck ton of problems could be solved by guys accepting that we live in a patriarchally skewed society, but a lot of guys only ever engage with feminism or gender criticism in a surface level attempt to defeat their arguments. As self-critical as we're taught to be, some dudes refuse to recognize they're part of the problem, even a little bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 12:13 AM
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Fuck, this is a good post op. I don't think self worth is fake but I'm starting to think it can't exist in relation to other people without becoming something other than self worth. I can see it as looking at yourself in abstract, as if you were another person, and making a judgment on that based on your own opinions and preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:15 AM
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This is the real answer. Thinking the people running the system are the ones you can see and reach, shit happens in anti-racist circles all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:30 PM
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Men will knowingly rush past red flags because the light at the end of the tunnel changes from "long term relationship" to "temporary sex". If we get hurt at any point along that tunnel we blame ourselves for seeing the warning signs before we made the commitment forward. She may have been a terrible person, but it's my fault for getting invested with the knowledge she had the potential to be this terrible. Women will see the light at the end of the tunnel, and spray paint over every red flag an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:32 AM
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I've had this done to me when I was younger and I felt the same way. Comes down to: they know you'll be there when they find time, their relationship isn't secure enough for them to depend on her in the same way. It's bro code you come to understand over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:01 AM
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Men, collectively, are not going to stop pursuing women, unless you expect us to start fucking each other. There has to be some middle era that comes before your utopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:00 PM
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I think the stat obsession is part of finding what is actionable though. Going into a situation that you're inexperienced in completely blind, even repeatedly, might not give you solid perspective on what to change and what to keep.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 12:22 PM
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See, you think it's a troll name, then you hit up dude's profile...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:55 AM
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Most don't have the money to pay for one apartment, especially in the example I just gave, which makes me wonder if they're out of touch or I am
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:00 AM
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Oh nah women from my neighborhood have called me broke or told me to grow up for living with my family past 20, we're all poor, that's why the expectation confuses me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:55 PM
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Not to pick an argument but does that not seem counterproductive to you? Just coming from a CRT perspective, the whole "fight fire with fire" approach has never really worked to change behaviors or force empathy because the priveleged group can't see the context behind the attack, it just feels to them like "reverse oppression".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:39 PM
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So in the bleakest of terms, get an office job or die alone lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:23 AM
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Living with parents isn't uncommon where I'm from but it's certainly looked down upon, a lot of the answers I get from single women I know when I ask about their rent in their own place, is that their parents either pay it fully or help them out. No one 30 or over has given me that answer but they're usually not single or already have some means to fully support themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:19 AM
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I guess it's simpler for you to figure out since you both have jobs, my confusion is still on what would happen if you didn't have a job in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:07 AM
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I guess because I've worked all service or physical labor so far it's just kind of weird envisioning putting in over 3 times as much effort, and then that being somehow easier than raising my own child as a SAHP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:57 AM
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At the point where the child wouldn't need constant supervision and is generally independent enough to get around on their own and get or ask for the things they need, would you be comfortable with your husband taking a less active role in the necessary upkeep stuff since you would also be doing less work taking care of the kid? (weird hypothetical I know)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:51 AM
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RP? This is from Tinder, coworkers, and Twitter, men aren't the ones telling me this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:33 AM
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So, again not a gotcha just trying to be clear, parenting is more effort than what is required to completely take care of more than 2 people financially?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:28 AM
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I mean, being a workaholic parent isn't something I aspire to, I'd love to be as involved a father as possible, just feels to me like the split would still be even because everything's scaling up, yet I see it as a common opinion that that setup is unfair and I wonder where my math isn't mathing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:20 AM
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Ok so, in the case of a married couple with children, is that split still even if one does all the necessary housework and child-rearing while the other (somehow) provides completely monetarily for the entire family?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:05 AM
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This post is partially me doombraining about the housing market now that I'm in my late 20's when there's so much other shit I have to spend money fixing. But also wondering how out-of-touch the people around me might be, or if I'm the dumb one for not spending $1000 a month to live in my same shitty neighborhood in worse conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:57 AM
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If the woman can't provide for themselves, is that expectation still fair? I'm not trying to do a gotcha here, I've genuinely come across women who have looked at me crazy for being in the same or even sightly better position than they were
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:49 AM
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I left the age range wide on purpose. I feel like if you don't have a house at 40 in 2023 you're not gonna get a house, but the expectation is something I've come across pretty consistently since about 20. And a large amount of the time it came from women who were in the same boat I was. I do know the most successful, or least tense relationships I've seen and been in, were 50/50, but I've also seen it as a consistent 'ick' in women in my age group, online and off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:37 AM
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The social consequences of 'coming out' are more likely to be immediately physically violent with men, along with the social ostracization. You tell your homeboy you have a crush on him and his worst-case reaction is beating the shit out of you to avoid damage to his own reputation. A woman coming out to another woman will have a 99% chance of walking away from that interaction regardless of the outcome, if it gets humiliating or even violent, she'll make it home that night.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:05 AM
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I've seen people mention Sexxy Red a lot this past month and it's kinda hilarious to me because, I was born around the time her namesake, Foxy Brown was active. I grew up on her and Lil Kim and all the rest. "Na-na so sick, make ya toes twitch, get up in yo ass and, ride that shit" was 25 years ago. And don't get me started on Prince.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 12:37 AM
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Meat is my favorite kind of food and I enjoy cooking, I also don't have any ethical hangups about the things that were bred and killed to get me fed. Living and sharing meals with a person who feels the opposite way would make every meal an argument or at least a silent judgment. I'm not down to live with that kind of tension.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:33 AM
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Bieber is a good direct comparison but 1. his fanbase is also primarily women, and 2. He's actually one of the more skilled vocalists of our generation though the genre never let him show it off, and as much as I don't like his music he can sing circles around Taylor, or could before his illness
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:50 AM
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I really don't know what to tell you if that's the conclusion you're going with
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:43 AM
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Nah but it is your fault for illustrating the point you were trying to make with examples that almost universally garner disdain from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:37 AM
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Kinda your fault for putting two of the most polarizing pop culture topics right there front and center
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:32 AM
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There's nothing immoral about being basic but going along with the crowd for every one of your interests makes you, as much as I hate the term, an NPC. It gives the impression that you value social approval over self realization.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:26 AM
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Oh you one of them animal likers huh, go to the forest and talk to your deer friends, leave me and my jerky alone. You want me to wither away, like a leaf in the autumn, to lie to my own digestive system? Back, druid! Your emerald incantations will not help you in my desert hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:46 AM
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Immature outlook, Not understanding money or value, or credit, Inflated self-worth without the actual skill or experience to back it up, Addiction to any social media that primarily consists of pictures and clips, Really, really bad BO, like the type that keeps other people away from you, Obsession with any celebrity whose skill they aren't trying to emulate, especially if it's a man, for more than one reason, Sex positivity to justify a high body count, stand on your own bad decisions and I'll …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:09 AM
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This is a reddit dating sub, most of the GUYS here don't have normal lives. The types of women we can get invested in us are usually going to be dysfunctional in one way or another. I think the problem a lot of guys have with that is our dysfunctions don't correlate. Tons of guys with no or little dating experience are somehow exclusively only able to attract women with above-average or worse-than-average experience with men. It's like trying to find someone in the same boat as you, knowing your…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:27 PM
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As a guy who's had it happen no you don't. All the time you're spending while not having sex, you aren't being treated like a person, your likes, interests, wants, goals, comfort, consent, autonomy do not matter if they don't fit the fantasy, and they won't fit the fantasy because the fantasy is inhuman. Being fetishized is not "I'm obsessed with this small aspect of the whole that is you" it's "The whole of you is this small aspect that I'm obsessed with." It's like emotional slavery, you don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:09 AM
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Hey, to be fair I don't want any of my close female family to be with any rich guys either unless he proves himself to be an exceedingly good person. Seen way to many examples of relationships becoming transactional when they don't see eye-to-eye
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:04 AM
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As a kid my favorite movies included 50 First Dates and Hitch, explicitly because of the romance lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:39 PM
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I'm a musician so this is actually one of the first things I ask a girl I'm interested in. I get a lot of Billie Eilish and Amy Winehouse, some Gorillaz, Drake and J Cole, some Eminem, Chainsmokers, and generally all the Emo anthems of the 2000s. Some of the standouts were Justin Timberlake, Lana Del Rey and Jordan Rakei
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 06:45 AM
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Can't drop it completely when my ultimate life goals involve being a husband and father
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:16 AM
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Put the frame on the ground and stand on it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:33 PM
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I don't know about any earlier, but Gen X was inundated with media about how their teens and 20's would be the best, most free, and most fulfilling time of their lives. I'm not that old but I haven't seen that trend let up in any way in my lifetime. I turn 27 tomorrow and I keep wondering if this was really the best it was ever going to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 12:14 AM
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How many guys are pursuing any of the women you mentioned? None of my friends, hell I'd venture not one active member of this sub is pursuing Margot Robbie. You can't act like media darlings are elected by the Council of Penis. And the answer to your question is Choice 1. It's not advertised by Margot Robbie, or Angelina Jolie's PR that they've had work done. According to entertainment journalism, they're "natural beauties". We don't question that because we don't care about their personal lives…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:52 PM
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Ma'am you are the Spiders Georg of this situation, you're on every post I've seen on this sub this month and you might be part of the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:42 AM
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I've actually become that guy at work over the years, it's nice in some ways and frustrating in others. Everyone trusts me and I can generally talk to any of my coworkers honestly, but I've also become this kind of sexless support character, like the magical janitor in a workplace sitcom. I've had crushes for years that I can't ever express my feelings about because we wouldn't be able to work together, I don't want to creep anyone out on the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:47 PM
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I'm just saying that's why men lurk those subs so often. If someone says "men are trash" on PPD they're going to get argued into the ground. On 2X I can at least get some context to the statements I don't agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:27 AM
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There's no female equivalent to the male-dominated dating, gender, and relationship subs. Outside PPD, FDS and 2X there aren't really many spaces to see women's opinions unfiltered or unchallenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:08 AM
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This lady, the tssquared lady and the Irish teacher are like the Powerpuff girls of this sub, I'm noticing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:09 AM
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I mean, making a promise to maintain exclusivity with your partner in front of your closest family and friends is gonna have some influence on most people. It's recognized as morally wrong to cheat on your spouse, there's a lot more wiggle room in that regard if you're dating, not engaged, or non-exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:53 PM
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Marriage is like the only social guarantee for exclusivity nowadays. You really wanna compete for the rest of your life to keep the woman you landed?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 06:45 PM
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Oh fuck that was actually hilarious lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:06 PM
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You think Twitter's gonna learn how to spell disagreeableness
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 09:34 PM
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They're talking about sex trafficking I'm pretty sure
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:00 PM
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I don't...have the money to get divorced multiple times... and getting settled for is kind of already a thing I hope for
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:17 PM
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Bruh. I'm partially talking about myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:17 PM
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Skinny men will date fat women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:43 AM
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Money/security, respect/admiration in one's community or circle, leaving a positive legacy, finding purpose in a world that has you running all the rides for the 3 people that just bought the amusement park, forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:28 AM
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I think we're treated as peers with our "average" counterparts in most situations except for dating. Or the discrepancy is easiest to notice in a dating/courting situation. Like, the women I work with respect me on the job and would never belittle me or shame me for working in the same position they do, but a stranger with the same job would totally shame or belittle me for having that job, directly or indirectly, if I asked them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:36 PM
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I think everyone's responding to the recent reevaluation of gender roles in different ways, but we are all responding to it. Most of the guys I know who grew up when Hillary was campaigning fell into the whole "male feminist" trend as teens or young adults. A lot of us are realizing now that women are even more varied in their opinions and life experiences than men are, and they seriously can't come to an agreement on the things they need. I'm not any more resentful of women than I was as a kid,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:53 AM
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We can argue healthy weights but that's not my point, my point is I like phat ass and big tiddies, and small stomachs with tiny waists combined with those attributes do not equate to healthy in my eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:23 PM
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That's gotta at least partially be because women audibly pine after older men with more resources from like, the moment they hit adolescence
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:18 PM
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Bro that's like a fit high schooler
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:15 PM
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I like softness dawg. If I wanted to feel bone and muscle I'd just grab my wrists all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:59 PM
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I'm both black and Latino. Skinny girls feel like fragile children to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:52 PM
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That's a misrepresentation of the data and you know it. Are all rich people in danger at all times because poor people are more likely to commit crimes? Edit:wait, you're op, now I'm confused
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:57 AM
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I have a very low bodyfat %, unhealthily so, even. It doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:00 PM
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Hey, no. I hit on my boys because they gotta know they look fly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:03 PM
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You'll find the specifics matter when you're the one doing the approaching
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 05:51 AM
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Call it what you want to when I literally can't tell one from the other
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 05:49 AM
2

If desperation is the only option I've ever had, what's the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 05:47 AM
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So you wanna get approached by strange men in a craft store who are trying to befriend you in order to hit on the other women you know
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 05:45 AM
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Did you not just imply the last guy could meet more women shopping at a craft store
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 05:41 AM
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Bold of you to assume I don't already date girls with trust issues
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 05:23 AM
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Oh so I'm not allowed to give someone a chance and develop feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:50 AM
1

Wait til I tell you about the economy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:28 AM
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If someone likes me, that's attractive enough for me to try finding something else to like about them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:54 AM
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So who do you hit on? Dogs? Horses? Elements? Photons? Abstract concepts? Me, I mostly ask out people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:58 AM
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Guys date women we're not attracted to all the time, that's the only option for some of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:13 AM
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Ah yes, the foolproof way to find a romantic partner, include them in your social group and do nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:11 AM
18

The post is about guys needing to expand their social circle to have more dating success. Post above the one I replied to said guys who expand their social circle can still end up with an all-male circle, such as card enthusiasts or hobbyist. The woman I replied to suggested hobbyists try shopping at craft stores, where there are presumably more women. You know where you're at dawg?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 11:17 PM
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You want guys hitting on you while you're shopping for craft supplies?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:40 PM
2

If we do, we have to include Sexxy Red's brown bootyhole in the category of female empowerment. Or we can recognize hype club party anthems as just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:21 PM
2

Being afraid of rejecting a man due to not knowing his reaction isn't being assaulted. Fight or fight response from being approached by a stranger on the street is not being assaulted. Being shy, being a people pleaser, freezing in an interaction, are not being assaulted. Where did the original post even mention rape or sexual assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:59 PM
1

False equivalence. Women generally see larger size as more attractive, and smaller size as unattractive. You'll find a woman with height requirements for every man you find with a weight requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:53 PM
2

A reward or a right? I don't think that's the same thing. "Nice guys" don't think they deserve more sex or female attention than the "bad boys", they think they deserve as much. It's not "I'm better than him so I deserve more access to women" it's "I'm at least as good as he is and I have absolutely no access to women."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:47 PM
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Lol aight, imma ignore it, but if I get called creepy at the club I'm DMing you on the spot
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:37 PM
2

Guys get told all the time to avoid approaching women at bars or parties or other group recreation because, "She's there to have fun with her friends, she's not there to get hit on!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:33 PM
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Literally all those could be responses to being asked out on the street by a stranger. No violence or implication of violence at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:28 PM
1

You're very standoffish with the other commenters here but I really like this point. Why put in the effort to turn yourself into someone you don't know, when no one can say if they'll even like the person that comes out the other end?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:06 AM
2

Do you run this sub? I've been on reddit more than usual in the past week and I've seen you comment on what feels like every PPD post
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:58 AM
2

I'm still talking to lil homie down below, keep up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:13 AM
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Ok before I reply to anything else, I need to get your age out of the way because you don't seem to get where I'm coming from with that, and I don't want to lil-bro you if you aren't actually a teenager. About how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:38 AM
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Immutable traits like being short, average or below average wealth, skin shade/complexion, hair density, vocal pitch, metabolism. Stuff that's impossible or unhealthy to change but get judged as dealbreakers regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:47 AM
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Unsuccessful, getting to the point where you like everything about yourself except for the things you can't change, and being ruled out based on those immutable traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:20 AM
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This reads like you're too young to have reached the point where you've changed everything about yourself that you can and still end up unsuccessful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:05 AM
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You gotta be 13 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:49 AM
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I like this point but I wanna add it's not just being ostracized by men, it's being ostracized by a heteronormative culture. Women enforce the status quo in different ways than men do in general, but they do enforce it. Preselectivity is one of those methods. Like, what a "feminine" height is for a man differs between cultures. Hair length, color, skin shade, skin texture, all can be seen as masculinizing or feminizing traits depending on your social conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 09:59 PM
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Dude you should make a post on here with just that paragraph, that's a really concise description of like half the stuff on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 08:50 PM
3

I made this same analogy about the same thing like a week ago lol. Something about a vegan living in a house made of hot dogs while the crowd outside eats each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:23 AM
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Yo, idk if you've ever been to the majority-Latino parts of Texas but she is truly average out here. It's not an insult. Half the women I know that age are prettier than SG with less effort and money. She's like, the same rating as the Kylo Ren actor would be if he were 5'7. Dude looks normal but the height and star power kicks him up a point or two. I'd say the same with Selena and her babyface.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:59 PM
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If a male friend said you were acting like the "angry black woman" stereotype or that all black women were cranky with bad attitudes, you would feel disrespected, even if you knew it didn't apply personally. I could say I don't date black women because white women aren't gold diggers, or white women are smarter. That's an insult to you, regardless of whether you saw me as a potential romantic partner, even if it's just my valid perspective, it's still disrespectful to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:48 PM
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Gotta be above average height for that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:15 AM
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Ok, hold up because I think you're arguing past my point, the big man thing is an example. You didn't give a stated reason at first, there was no implication. I'm saying when the stated reason is "larger men just make me feel protected, wealthy men can take care of me" the implication is that small men cannot make their partner feel protected, lower-class men cannot make their partner feel taken care of. If you're a hairy woman, and two guys in the room agree that there's just something just so.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:29 AM
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There's a difference between liking the look of bigger men, and wanting to be with one because he makes you feel protected. That's the implication I'm talking about. There's no implication in the preference, there's implication in the reasoning behind it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:41 AM
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Yeah I'm not entertaining the opinion of people who reduce male attraction and sexuality to animalistic lust, you can go head and get on with all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:24 PM
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You get how that's a requirement that men don't put on women though right? Like yes, we're a lot more visual and shallow when describing our preferences, but even if the majority of men said they preferred skinny women, you will, without a shadow of a doubt, find someone that prefers thick, fat, or obese women, and is very vocal about it. I've never seen any woman state a preference or even tolerance of poor men, a few women like lanky dudes but you have to be above average height to make her fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:12 PM
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That's seriously how it feels a lot of the time. I think it's partially the common threads that women generally vocalize finding attractive, are lofty goals for certain men to attain. Many women, what feels like the majority, want someone physically larger than them enough to make them feel protected. A guy who doesn't fit that criteria is basically being called weak. Same for men who are well-off financially. You don't meet that criteria, you're basically getting called poor and useless. Add to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:51 PM
1

So many women here saying the only appropriate context to approach them is when you're in a room full of loud, sweaty, drunk people. Because it's safer. Lmao imma die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:47 AM
1

See, I'm not the kind of person that can marry someone knowing I'm not "enough" for them sexually, or really in any area. If I have a relationship with you, I have the relationship with you, not with you and this person one or both of us uses to do what the other can't. To me, that's not a marriage, or rather that's not a relationship worth making a marriage out of. But I also only date one person at a time, like, the 2-person exclusivity thing is kind of a big deal for me. I don't appreciate th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:02 AM
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I know an autistic guy who fucks all the time, but he's not picky and neither are the girls he's with. Plus he's extremely straightforward. Can't stop himself from saying exactly what he thinks with no filter or rethinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:39 PM
1

All the other animals are doing it, maybe my kids can help delay the apocalypse, or make it less agonizing for someone, or write the world's greatest song before the sun pierces our ozone like a hair dryer and we all turn ass-first into space dust. Anything is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:30 AM
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Oh nah first of all its not solely to teach them, I elaborated somewhere else I grew up without a father, my kids will be better than me by virtue of the experience I can impart to them once I actually become a father. I'm my own person, I don't live for my hypothetical kids, but I'm also trying to become the kind of person that can raise kids into positive members of a community without mistreating or misguiding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:16 AM
1

Uh... How...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:14 PM
1

I don't think I understand the question. Can you rephrase?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:52 PM
3

I mean I don't really see it as them fillling out my flaws. I grew up without a father, I didn't have someone to teach me how to be a man, deal with difficult situations, be smart about my decisions. I had to learn all that through trial and error. So, my logic goes, if I teach my future kids everything i know, including my various talents and expertise not mentioned in this thread, they'll end up better, more capable people than I'm able to be. I have my own dreams and career goals but money ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:52 PM
2

I, uh... I don't know how to respond to that but I hope you have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:27 AM
0

Ah, General...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:16 AM
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I guess my gripe was more with "boyfriend material" being presented as a bad thing. I'd much rather be boyfriend material by women's standards than hookup material. What's the point in making myself that vulnerable to another person that I know is gonna leave as soon as possible. I'd rather buy the world's best sex toy and wait to get intimate with someone I actually feel more than a fleeting connection with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:49 AM
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Idk bro. I don't have șex often, I have a high sex drive, but i have hardcore trust and abandonment issues. Eventually being a husband and father is actually like a major thing to me. There's no security in being a bachelor, I want to find someone who I want to be around most of my life, and have a kid that I can spend the rest of my life teaching how to be better than me. Hookups have never really been enticing to me, not that I've ever been surrounded by offers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:18 AM
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Idk man, I'm on antidepressants and that's pretty much how orgasms work for me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:16 AM
1

C'moooon, I'm having a drunk crisis, here
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 10:28 AM
2

Hmm, that's probably a better question than the one I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 07:13 AM
1

See but I feel like sex workers fall within the category of "spending time out of obligation". I don't serve customers pizza because I love spending time with them, I'm getting paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 07:05 AM
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I know a girl that sucked off half the basketball team in high school and she models now. It happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:30 AM
7

Don't you dare call me out like this. I can make her love me!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 12:24 PM
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Yeah, it feels kinda selfish, but I can't help thinking these guys are helping normal-yet-unnatractive dudes like me in the long run. Gets them out of the dating pool where they're more likely to leave girls jaded and undatable. Plus, I think they know they can't ever actually get the attention of the women they're pining after. So it's really a lifestyle choice on their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 04:55 AM
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Aaaye very well put. Mpdg, e-girl, nlog kinda chicks are my type, but I'm tryna give off that Jack Sparrow chaotic-good type energy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 12:06 AM
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I started learning piano at 6 years old because someone told me girls like musicians. It's been 18 years. I'm a producer now. I'm still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:57 AM
8

Wow, so I technically have a pornstar dick... This knowledge would've helped any time before my early 20's
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:53 AM
12

Got confused, instructions unclear. Dumped all my points into lockpicking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 06:14 PM
2

There are also women on here who scoff at the idea that one bad experience with a man will kill his chances with any other woman she talks to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 01:00 AM
2

Ask your friend if they've ever successfully tried that move. Asking for a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 01:32 PM
2

I agree, if you're uncomfortable, say you're uncomfortable and leave. Fucking take his fingers out of your mouth. Literally just say the words "Quit that shit." That being said, who the fuck pulls that weird ass move without her verbally asking for it? I've never even seen porn where the dude opens the encounter by shoving his hand in her mouth before fingering her. Like where'd he get the idea that anyone would be into that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 01:21 PM
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Lol I wish I was brave enough to make a whole post out of your comment. I find it hilarious how most of red pill methodology syncs up exactly with the PUA ads that popped up before porn videos in 2004.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 01:06 PM
1

Idk man, from the article it seems like he went for way too much, way too fast. I don't fuck on the first date for precisely this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 01:01 PM
0

Omg what?? You got a link or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 11:17 AM
1

See that's what I figured. Most other dudes I know who can pick up that many trades don't really have the time, interest, or need to really do anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 04:05 PM
0

Do you have many hobbies outside of work with your hands?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 03:57 PM
5

Yeah I'm not fucking up my car on my own time. I'm paying someone else to not fuck it up or fix it if they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 03:55 PM
2

Ah, see I've gotten all that advice before. Unfortunately there are no black women in my social circle, and few black men. Matter of fact there's very few black folks where I live in general, we aren't even close to the largest minority group. But of the few that are here, they're usually on the arm of some big athletic black dude, or any other descriptor of any other dude with the exception of fat men. Usually the common denominator of a black couple around here is that the dude is physically i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 03:15 AM
1

Wow, so who should I be aiming at then, in your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 02:39 AM
1

Short, thick/chubby girls with average faces?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 01:41 AM
5

Aside from the "pilled" talk, I've agreed with damn near everything you've commented on this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 01:23 AM
2

Uh, hi, early 20's black dude here. Can't date outside my race because I hate the feeling of being fetishized. Can't date within my race because I'm 5'8 and scrawny. Yall look down on us too, you just tend to not be as vocal about the reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 01:21 AM
5

This is like a weird political compass. Pretty Woman= people do whatever you want for sex Rich man=you do whatever you want for money
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 08:15 AM
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But like, women's opinions don't matter when you're asking about a specific male experience? That's like asking cis women how low their balls dangle, you're never gonna get a real answer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:20 AM
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You gotta recognize that some of them don't try though, or have unrealistic standards, same as dudes. Hell, below average WOC are my type and it's even harder to get a match with them than some of the Jungle fevered white girls in my area, and most of them would be considered average or above. Can't have a LTR if I can't get a text back. Can't get a date if introducing myself to a girl makes her think I'm a predator. As much as I hate being fetishized, I don't have many other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 06:27 AM
0

OK but I'm buying a used wrangler later this week. This an accurate review?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 03:58 AM
5

Cool, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 04:15 PM
11

Nonono my bad, I didn't mean to come off condecending at all, I'm actually interested! Drugs have the opposite effect for me, including my prescriptions, that's why I asked
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 04:10 PM
3

Lmao ok I'll bite, what'd you learn/improve on in your practice sessions?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 03:45 PM
1

Bruh I've been dealing with the term pick-me's since the Tumblr days. Still no solid clue what it means
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 03:43 PM
1

Once dated a girl that told me she was polyamourous like a month into the relationship, and a few days later I found out there was someone else. Then they blew up her phone while we were at a movie, causing her to have a panic attack. Haven't seen her since. I mean, I feel like she cheated, but I know she doesn't feel like she cheated, so idk how to feel
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 10:14 PM
1

I'm a pianist, producer, and soon-to-be SoundCloud rapper. I haven't gotten laid in a year. Sometimes uglys just ugly my man
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 12:13 PM
2

Shit, physical/emotional intimacy is a need if it keeps you from killing yourself out of loneliness
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:58 AM
1

Avoidance and distrust of the opposite sex would become a phase to age out of. People would probably settle at much older ages. Constant culture war.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:06 AM
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Some girls I've dated could be independent and make up their own minds about what they wanted to do or talk about, others just always put the onus on me to entertain the both of us. Literally just sitting shotgun, looking at her phone with dead eyes until I suggested something to do. It's mentally exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:14 PM
0

Does the thought cross your mind sometimes though? I find it incredibly hard to make female friends because I tend to start considering romantic relationships with them, unless there's a hard deal breaker in the picture like age difference or sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 10:57 PM
1

Agree completely. I was fascinated with PUA as a kid. I missed the mass shift to trp but a lot of it feels like background explanations to PUA tactics that were pseudo science in the first place. Most of the successes just come from the fact that these guys put themselves out there until they hooked somebody. There's a lot of ways to make an omlette. Trp/PUA just gets you in the kitchen with the stove on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 08:21 AM
1

Lmao that sounds terrible. I mean I have long dreads and earrings, and I like drugs. I guess I'm already thugmaxxing but I'll be dammed if I ever call it that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:24 AM
0

Unless he's black and the societal expectation is for him to be taller
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 04:07 AM
4

Man, I just lurked on that sub for a good hour and my self esteem dropped like 10 points. Some of what they're saying is reasonable if you know a lot of fuckboys but I still came away feeling like a creep... This is the kind of shit I left Tumblr for and it still comes back to punch me in the gut...
/r/PussyPass22/10/19 06:33 PM
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The PUA stuff is nothing to worry about. Boys and men largely don't have access to resources telling them how to treat women outside of PUA and anti - PUA forums/articles/videos. You should only be worried if you think he's using these resources to cheat on you. Otherwise, he's using them the same way women use magazines and other women's media for tips on maintaining a relationship. Instead of going on reddit and asking why his gf never wants to have sex with him, he went on PUA sites to try to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 09:58 PM
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