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I mean, my wife and I totally banged on our first date and every time we saw each other for the first... year or so? Still going strong 11 years in. I don't think your beliefs affect anyone else's any more than they affect yours. If you wanna wait, wait, but just as many people that wait find they aren't compatible sexually or grow apart in other ways as people who don't wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 08:09 PM
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I think polarity is good in a few, maybe less important areas of the relationship. Like if 1 person is adventurous and spontaneous, the other is reserved and plans ahead. You can make that work, but if one person is a 2A ultraconservative who loves football, MMA, and BBQ and the other is a pro-choice liberal vegan who teaches yoga and writes feminist poetry, you may have trouble agreeing on how to raise your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:21 PM
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I think it makes most sense to split it equally based on income. My wife and I always took certain bills and they usually came out even. Like I pay rent, internet, electric, she'd pay insurance, groceries, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:16 PM
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Do I personally care? No, not necessarily. It would be outright hypocritical for me too. I could see someone being jealous if their partners looking at porn completely different from what they expect from them, but if that's the case and they can't accept it then they shouldn't be with that person, right? I think a lot of men are insecure around sex, whether that's performance or size or whatever and take it out on their partners. Whether it's porn or prior relationships or friendships I think a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:23 AM
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I remember in a law class learning about men being held responsible for children when they were being used as a sperm donor by lesbian partners. It may not be "fair", but it's how it is. The problem I see is the burden of proof, unless you record every communication, it's just not going to hold up. Your best bet is to wrap that shit up, get on that male birth control when it's ready, or get a vasectomy..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:24 PM
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This, so much of this. Another experiment, go to a gay bar. Don't worry, you won't suddenly turn gay I promise. But you'll be probably approached by multiple men all night. You'll get some free drinks and hopefully an ego boost, but man it does not stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:17 PM
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How many posts like this are going to be out before we just leave these dudes to wallow in their own misery? It seems there's a lot of men out there who are doing just fine getting dates. Great looking men, average men, alpha bros, beta dudes. The question isn't what other ways are there, but what are you doing that isn't working. When you approach women what do you say? What's your body language, when do you do it, where do you do it? If asking out a mutual friend, do you guys have chemistry at…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:54 PM
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I don't care about your concerns. There's something wrong if the first thing you think is it will become the same as a 4chan board full of resentful, hateful rhetoric. Not everyone is out to get you. If anything, I'd worry about Men (probably some eternally single edgelord 19 yo) pretending to be women to gain access and either post misleading and derogatory information or selectively leak posts and people to make the groups look bad a la "libs of tiktok".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:39 PM
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Completely different situations. It's only libel if it's false and damaging. If that is what they do, then that's bad. But to jump directly to that vs the idea that women are wanting to have some comfort that they're not dating a serial cheater, abuser, or married guy, sounds to me like: A) these guys are insecure, they have something to worry about and don't want it out there or, B) are likely to engage in the negative actions they're critical of. Kind of like when people who constantly cheat (…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:21 PM
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No. There isn't a positive way to call someone abusive, and that's okay. I think your problem is you don't know what's being said and feel attacked or threatened by it. No need if you're a decent man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:50 PM
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Depends on the criticism. Don't be daft.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:46 AM
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Facebook > groups > search > "dating the same girl"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:44 AM
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I read the article and didn't get that at all. From the sound of it the mods try to keep it pretty positive. I could see why if someone had bad experience as they would look into a group like this. I just think you and other guys that are negative about it are putting their insecurities onto it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:35 AM
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No I'd call comments in this post and other similar posts in this sub attacks. WaPo does one article and these dudes lose their minds. I'm surprised it hasn't had its cycle on Fox News yet (or maybe it has, wouldn't know).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:07 AM
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I think most men don't care, it's largely dependent on lifestyle and economic needs. Child care is so damn high and pay so shitty that it might make sense for a lot of people. It seems like a very small percentage want it for some sort of traditional reason, maybe overly religious types?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:05 AM
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I think that LP is under something. Even under the guys of religion, It's really because most men get jealous and hung up over the idea that their partner has had prior sexual experiences. We worry if they were better, bigger, more pleasurable. Did they do freakier stuff? Somebody would get insane about it. Women do too of course, but I don't think it's at the same level. Who knows, maybe it's instinctual or deeply cultural but it's certainly true from what I've seen. I think it largely has to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:58 AM
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Don't go all victim on this. It's pretty common that women are held to a different standard. A man can have that preference, but I think OP is very accurate in why. Even if under the cover of "religion". It's largely an ego thing, and mostly because of their insecurity. I've seen men get insanely jealous about their partner's prior experiences. Worrying if they were bigger, lasted longer, more enjoyable, more adventurous. Some guys (and women) are really hung up on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:52 AM
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It's not necessarily bad, but it's obviously a patriarchal standard. Women didn't have many, if any, rights prior to modern time, mostly 20th century. Still don't in many countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:29 AM
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Most women I know look out for each other pretty well, even strangers. There's going to be bad actors in any group. Sounds like you had some bad experiences but I don't think that's representative of most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:22 AM
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Like the women's groups being mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:10 AM
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I was more referring to sites like 4chan, telegram groups, is anyone up. I've seen some pretty misogynistic shit in Facebook groups, I can't imagine it's not out there. Even if it's not "porn". Actually I searched ex-girlfriend and found many public groups. And there countless "are we dating the same girl" groups for nearly every municipal area. Imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:07 AM
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Men have created groups like this full of revenge porn. It was a pretty big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:33 AM
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Or she could just be afraid of dating some abusive asshole or a guy who's cheating on his wife or something. And just curious, at what point is a woman "putting up LeBron numbers". Games played? Points scored? So if a girl has been with one guy 1000 times does that count?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:24 AM
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Well I can only speak from personal experience and those around me. Let me clear it up for you. It seems like OP and a lot of the commenters here see it very black and white. It's either showing no emotion or showing full emotion and opening up completely without boundaries. It's probably because we feel we can't be vulnerable with our male friends. We are also pretty bad at expressing feelings and healthy way, For example getting angry and jumping straight to punching a wall or yelling or getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 07:31 PM
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N U A N C E
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:19 AM
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Another commenter hit it on the head when they said men can't see nuance. I think it's absolutely true a lot of the commenters and posters on this sub have a complete lack of understanding nuance. There's a difference between telling your partner about what's going on and opening up to them and dumping all of your insecurities on them, especially early in a relationship. If your idea of being vulnerable is dumping a life's worth of trauma on your second date, you're probably not going to have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 12:07 AM
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I agree. If you feel this way, leave women alone until you are mature enough to handle something as complex and challenging as a real, adult, romantic relationship. Or any relationship really.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 09:57 PM
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Body Positivity isn't about making you think overweight women are sexy. It's about society (mainly women themselves) accepting that they can be. Positive Self image is key to a person's health, men and women. If you don't like it no one is forcing you. And the "hot felon" trope? Sure, nothing is absolute, but MOST women will run away from men like that so fast. Thing is, people like that learn how to manipulate and take advantage of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 09:50 PM
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I didn't say Danny DeVito is a sex symbol, although I'm sure he slayed when he was younger. Women seem to be more willing to let stereotypically unattractive traits slide than men are. In other words, a woman is more likely to find a bald or overweight guy attractive, but less likely for men to find an overweight woman attractive. I would say the opposite when it comes to personality traits, a guy will date a hot but dumb or abusive chick, whereas a woman would rather have an ugly nice guy than …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:24 PM
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Indeed, male subjects (super)liked 61.9% of the female evaluated profiles, while female subjects (super)liked only 4.5% of the male evaluated profiles. These findings are in line with previous research on online dating in general (Fiore et al., 2010, January, Todd et al., 2007) and on Tinder in particular (Tyson, Perta, Haddadi & Seto, 2016). Indeed, Tyson et al. (2016), p. 1) argue that this is due to a feedback loop: ‘men are driven to be less selective in the hope of attaining a match, whilst…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:44 AM
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I dunno, I have known women attracted to all sorts of men. I can't imagine ALL women have the same "type". if someone is extremely attractive, they're going to get attention, duh, that's life. It's no different for men or women. But I think women are more likely to let certain physical traits slide (weight, bald, height) than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:37 AM
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It's funny because the "as long as they're hot" comment is more in line with what they're saying. You would date a hot girl if she's "lonely, emotionally starved" but probably not an average girl with a great sense of humor and future. These less attractive men would do fine with less attractive women. That's the way it's always been. That doesn't have mean someone who is repulsive. But if you're a 5 and only going after Betty's or whatever, you're going to be disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:32 AM
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Yes, men can absolutely be interested in sex without a relationship. Don't give any of the "you better be rich or hot" comments much thought. Sure, that would help, but it's not a deal breaker. Do this: Put yourself around women. Not In a creepy stalker way, but if you're going to catch fish, you need to be near water. Focus on what women like about you specifically. If you're average looking but a good dresser, dress nice. If you're funny, make them laugh. Be patient and accept rejection. If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 10:36 PM
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It's almost like the manosphere guys' ideas are illogical. I think a lot of men like the idea of a "traditional" relationship. Whether due to nostalgia or religion or whatever self-help ideology du jour it is, the idea sounds nice to them. But in reality, even this patriarchal style relationship takes a lot of work. I think a lot of men might realize this too late. And the red pill sense, the woman now has all the power because she can leave and find someone else, but the man is probably going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 09:19 PM
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I'm going to say you're imagining it. Or more so you're seeing what you're looking for. Men put themselves out there constantly, women are inundated with men coming on to them everywhere. At work, school, online, wherever. There's always been a fear of rejection, shy guys, unconfident guys. I think modern society is leaving a certain type of man behind, hyper-competitiveness squeezes them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:39 AM
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I've seen some really, really unattractive men in relationships, getting married, having kids. It's absolutely true they are probably with someone of equal attractiveness, that's just life. Aside from being horribly disfigured or having some defect, it's pretty unlikely that no one would be attracted to them. In my experience, it really becomes based on personality or attitude in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:33 AM
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Yeah, I don't think is remotely accurate. Men absolutely make assumptions about a woman's personality based on appearances. You did in the following sentence "unless she's wearing something obviously revealing". What is"obviously revealing"? Showing some ankle? Spaghetti straps and a bare midriff? We all do it, men and women. Mostly unconsciously. When people. Meet my wife, with dyed hair and tattoos, they immediately think she likes to party or do crazy things, but she's shy and quiet and would…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:15 AM
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Right. Even if a woman was looking for that type of traditional 1950s leave it to beaver imaginary relationship, if a guy couldn't take care of himself in the most basic ways I'd expect her to look for more. This is where the saying "the bar is literally the floor" comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:09 AM
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I think you're confused. No one outside of super-fundamental religious zealots think this way. In most of the US and western world, a family requires 2 incomes or 1 very good one. It's not about a man deciding to make more money, that takes a lot of hard work, time, and luck. There are plenty of incentives for someone to make more money. It's called money and all the cool shit it buys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:06 AM
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Cooking, laundry, and cleaning are not feminine. If anything, expecting someone else to do it for you is very immasculine. Also, making money isn't masculine. What you're describing is maturity. If any of my friends, or male family members honestly believed this I would lose all respect for them. If anything, being able to take care of yourself, not just financially but physically (domestically?) is respectable and what I would expect a man to do before he was mature enough to be in a real relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:00 AM
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This sounds like a 1964 police response to a stalker.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:34 AM
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I think the "reactor" is the person who gets to decide, no? I mean, aside from someone being completely out of touch, the person who feels like they're being creeped on gets the say. Until we're looking for some sort of legal definition at least. Saying otherwise is like saying someone who is suffering abuse is "overreacting", or sexually harassed (the "I barely even touched you" defense). You may not "intend" to be creepy, but most creeps don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:32 AM
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I feel like it's a similar answer to "what is porn" or "what is obscene". It's hard to quantify, but you know I know it when I see it. So there's probably a gray area depending on the creepee.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:23 AM
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I thought this and had an exhausting back and forth with someone claiming women rejecting unattractive men was akin to eugenics... He was in his 50s. I kinda felt bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 05:30 PM
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Damn, OP is sick of bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 01:14 AM
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Always use the formula, you can't go wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:28 AM
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Oh my bad, I didn't see your opinions specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:07 AM
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Freedom to do something or not do something doesn't mean you are entitled to your expected conclusion. It might not be fair, but that's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 11:39 PM
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Then prove it incorrect. It seems as though the view is women are either only interested in rich, profoundly good looking men and therefore rejecting 90% of the population or they are used up, unworthy single mothers depending on government cheese and settling for a man that'll raise their kids. Most of these guys seem to expect a supermodel virgin housewife who will become a submissive little sex kitten from the wedding night on. The focus on their prior sex lives is bizarre, toxic, almost path…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 11:21 PM
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RP men really don't concern themselves with women's happiness or choice. It's about protecting their damaged self-esteem and projecting their insecurities on more successful people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 11:06 PM
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Imagine being forced to marry someone and then them not willing to have sex with you. Not that is the ultimate rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:58 PM
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How are people not free to have sex because they're being rejected? They're still free to decide. I'm free to be an NFL player or world-renowned neurosurgeon, unfortunately I just can't convince anyone to pay me to do those things. I think it's total bullshit, but I don't think that means it's not my choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:57 PM
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I'm totally against choice as well. I like my sex life and relationships to be forced as much as possible. I think we should do this with everything, houses, cars, jobs. We all get paid the same as well too. This is ridiculous. Who decides? And what if we're not happy with our arrangement? How do you stop someone from going outside of their assigned relationship? And most importantly, how do I ensure I get someone super hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:55 PM
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When I was single I was VERY concerned about getting a girl pregnant. Like performance anxiety level at times.... But yeah, I went raw sometimes. Every time I'd lay there in a panic after and worry about it constantly until I knew. Had a few scares too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 07:03 PM
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I can't imagine trying to conceive for months, possibly years, finally getting that blue line or whatever and being like, "oh honey, I'm so excited! I hope it's a boy! Just, one sec real quick let's get a paternity test."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 03:41 PM
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Sounds like a very negative outlook on life to me. Your belief system is very bleak and black and white, this belief that helping any woman is going to somehow impact you negatively, but helping a man will probably be good for you somehow. The language of your post and comments makes it sound like you're very bitter about it and will always look at women whether they need help or not as taking advantage of you. Helping people feels good, it's too bad whatever experiences you've had in the past w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 03:27 AM
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I will always support heart failure at 45. I love when people jump to "obesity is a health crisis" like they are worried about someone's health and not to justify judging or putting someone down. Let her doctor worry about her health, you're just trying to be an asshole. But to quote the great Sir Mix-a-Lot "even white boys got to shout". I'll stand by the fact I think she's hot, Peterson wouldn't have a chance with her if he did think she was beautiful, and she's way hotter than his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 03:20 AM
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Whatever her weight is it's more cushion for the pushing to me. But I'm sure a lot of the guys on this sub have better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 02:51 AM
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It sounds like a one-way road to a miserable life to me. But no you are not obligated to help anybody regardless of their chromosomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 02:44 AM
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Why are we debating a model's weight? And I love that no one is contradicting the fact that Peterson is a liar and hypocrite. And if we're attacking people's looks, google Peterson's wife....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 02:12 AM
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Do they not? Half of the comments I read on the sub are complaining how women put down men who don't meet their six rule, how they put down or discriminate against everything from weight to height to hairline to jawline to bank account to car... need I keep going? It's almost like there are 4 billion women out there and there might be some variation in their personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 01:51 AM
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I searched Yumi nu bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 01:48 AM
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So only help them if the ask, but don't help them under any circumstances, including being physically attacked? You sound like a peach How about just treat her the same as you would a guy. Do they need help? Offer help. Or Don't. Just don't expect anything in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 01:45 AM
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I'm going to go out on a limb here, you're a red pill guy and don't do too great with women?. I looked it up, she's 5'11 160. You?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 01:38 AM
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Sure. The difference is he is a popular public figure with millions of people holding his opinion to high regard. He didn't say "I don't find this woman attractive, to each their own", and when asked about it he doubled down about the body positivity and clearly fat shaming her. How is that not toxic if not misogynistic. He's a child
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 12:29 AM
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I think that's the point. There's no a manual to being a man. It's more of looking up to the idea of what a man is and finding who fits that mold. Then emulate them. A little Keanu, a little Rock, sprinkle in some Mr Rogers. Maybe a little Dave Bautista and Steve McQueen?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 11:41 PM
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How about when Sports Illustrated Swim Suit came out and he said "Sorry, not beautiful..." About the model on the cover that was Gasp not a size 0. C'mon, she was hot.curvy, sure, but hot. Normally I wouldn't judge this but just search for his spouse. His attacks on trans people are widely known as well, maybe not misogynistic, but still toxic. The problem with Petersen isn't just his misogynistic views. They're troubling, but not near as dangerous as someone like Tate. I'm sure there is good in…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 10:55 PM
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Yeah, but if OP is asking who to look up to, these are 1) Men who 2) have good morals/masculine identities that 3) are widely known and easily identifiable (famous). For most of history men weren't looking up to cartoonish he-villains that say shocking things to get rich off of unconfident young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 10:35 PM
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Am I... am I taking crazy pills? Edit: I think you mean prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 11:10 PM
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I still have to disagree with almost everything you've said. This idea that women are intuitive but also should be punished for their bad mate selection is completely contradictory. It still takes two people to reproduce. Just because women carry the burden of pregnancy and childbirth doesn't mean the father doesn't hold the same responsibility in the pregnancy and to the child. It's not like we don't know the consequences of having sex. So whether a woman has the right to keep or terminate a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:49 PM
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But what if Dahmer looked like Evan Peters like in the Ryan Murphy show? And the woman was a 5 (or a Milwaukee 7), but the woman's father owned a local gas station chain and so money wasn't a concern, but also... Gacey, Ridgeway, BTK... They were all married and hid their murders from their wives. BTK had a family, church member... In other words your question is nonsense. Edit: again: 1) How has nature given only women this control? 2) Where are the fathers in this case?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 05:43 PM
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Yes because punishing people for having sex outside of marriage has always worked so well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 03:40 AM
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In RP world, the men never, ever, are required nor should they be required to pay child support. It goes hoe: used up hoe: govt check
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 03:15 AM
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1) How has nature given only women this control? 2) Where are the fathers in this case?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 03:13 AM
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"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 03:10 AM
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This would make no sense. If anything I could see the opposite as true. It used to be that doctors couldn't (or wouldn't) prescribe birth control to married couples. The only results I foresee is forcing people to get married just so they don't have to face the responsibilities of a child. Forcing women who are unable or unwilling to care for a child is a Prison sentence for the child. Then, as RP guys are all afraid of, many of these mothers and children end up needing welfare to survive. (Queu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 03:05 AM
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The problem is women are subsidized for their mistakes. For example, a woman that tries to get a high value male, but then ends up as used up single mom will go on to live an artificially subsidized life. This is really sexist, "Used up single mom"? She's going to collect welfare paid for by taxpayers, send her child to a school where she pays little or no taxes supporting, feed herself and her children with food stamps given by the government. If he were truly a high value man he'd take care of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:41 AM
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That's such a disingenuous comment. What a woman does with your own body is all for her. You don't have to like it, but you shouldn't be an asshole at it. On the other hand a lot of the red pill comments and ideology is really sexist and negative towards women. If it was just helping men be more confident there would be fine. But beliefs like all women lose their worth after a certain age and their only redeeming qualities are sex and procreation are toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 10:16 PM
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They were all fired But the fact she was married doesn't matter, except to her husband and her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 04:31 PM
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Of yourself. Is it that abstract? Have you not heard "give 100%"? Maybe if you play a sport, or at your job?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:20 AM
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100% to raising kids, supporting your family, housekeeping, and your career. So that your wife could invest the same amount of time and energy into taking care of herself while raising kids, having a career, taking care of the house, etc. If it's easy I'm sure you could do that. A lot of men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:19 AM
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Relevance: People's tax dollars were paying the salaries of these officers. Police actions are police actions, they're paid for by your tax dollars. But you've just said who gets to decide what is degenerate, and then said the country doesn't have free reign to pile on judgement. Who are you to decide who is free reign gets free reign to say what? This is circular logic. I'm doing the same as you. Who am I to decide? I don't get to decide. The difference? I'm defending someone's private, persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 06:42 AM
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Yes we're really doing it because that's the point of the post, correct? The father comment is so weird, are you her father? If not then you don't get to speak for him. Would a father be embarrassed, sure, but that's not free reign for the country to pile on judgement and I'd hope he'd be there to defend her too. The fact they were at work is up to their bosses. Okay, so they're police officers and should be held to higher standards. They were fired, as they should be. But we see stories of poli…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 06:09 AM
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It really depends. Pregnancy and birth are extremely stressful on a woman's body. We all change as we age, it gets harder to lose weight, and some people have other health issues. Then, keeping up with kids and family, housework and or career, etc etc. If you marry a woman and aren't giving 100% to help with all of this, I don't think you get to nitpick about putting on some weight, especially if you aren't in equal shape as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 05:53 AM
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I mean, 5 dudes can have an orgy. Some people pay extra for that kind of action.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 05:40 AM
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The fact that this is a story at all is ridiculous. These were consenting adults, who are any of us to judge, especially more severe judgement on her. The men involved are just as much to blame, if not more since some.were married. The only people who should have any opinion are the people directly involved. If she is your partner, if one of the guys were your husband, then you can be upset. Otherwise, we've all been there (or wish we could be). Anyone here can spend 5 minutes on this site and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 05:38 AM
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Who are you or who is anybody to judge her and decide whether or not she has respect for herself? As long as it was consensual and they were all adults it's nobody's business but those who were directly impacted. So who decides what's considered degeneracy in society? Is it you or me? Should we make a law governing who can have sex with who, how many people at one time? It's her body and her life, if she wants to bang five dudes then good for her. The fact that this is the story at all blows my …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 05:31 AM
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I got to get off this sub man, how can you guys be so dumb. I've tutored pre-algebra to f students with better comprehension than these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 05:09 AM
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I'd love to see where that comes from. In my experience, women are way hornier mid 30s+. Ready to settle down, sure, but horny. And by saying "experiencing adulthood", I don't mean having sex. I mean being an adult. OP asked when to "pick" a wife, not how to marry a virgin, unadulterated from the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 03:23 AM
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I really don't get the hate some guys give makeup and the women that wear it. Whether it looks great or terrible, who cares? It makes women feel good, confident, even sexy. It's been done for millennia. I feel like men who feel this way are insecure and petty. It's done for our benefit as well. Tell me you've really met a girl, dated, slept together or whatever then one day woke up, saw them without makeup, hair a mess, and we're just blown away by their ugliness. If you like the natural look, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 01:45 AM
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How is 24 not young for women? I could see someone thinking this if they are 12, at 24 you're finally experiencing adulthood and have an idea of what you want for yourself. I think I grew the most emotionally between 24 and 30, if not later. I don't think it has anything to do with sex education, knowing how your body works or the consequences of sex (ie pregnancy, STIs) isn't going to change that. I feel like you're alluding to teaching women to remain chaste a la 1950s or so called abstinence …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 12:11 AM
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Are you asking at what age men should get married? Or how old their wives should be? Even your description seems a little ambiguous. That's for when they should get married, I think when they're mature enough to handle the responsibilities that come with it. I've known folks to get married right after high school and do well and man in their 30s who still act like children and skirt responsibility. As for the age of the wives, your question sounds a little pedophilic. Yes we biologically equate …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 12:02 AM
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Then you better learn to lay that pipe!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:49 AM
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Go to church? Edit: I mean even if you're not religious they're probably going to have similar views as you. Go sing some songs, go to brunch, meet some nice people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 10:30 PM
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I'm not interested in debating statistics around abortion. I'm just curious, in regards to OP's statement and becoming above, where those lines are drawn and why and what so-called pro-lifers expectations are when these complicated cases arise. We've already heard numerous horror stories in the last year no matter what happens there's going to be undesirable outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 10:06 PM
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Question then, taking these rare exceptions into account, when is it "okay" for a woman to get an abortion (rape, life of mother, birth defects, etc)? And what should be done to ensure they are able to access it only when necessary? And what is the policy to help the women and children in a post Roe time to ensure support through and post pregnancy? Most pregnancy support centers seem to be underfunded/resources and stop support neonataly. Considering most conservative Americans (and redpillers)…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 08:46 PM
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LMAO, you have never talked to a pro-life person either. We often hear statements from anti-abortion leaders claiming rape is partially a woman's fault, that rape shouldn't be a exemption for abortion, etc. It may not be the majority but it's a very loud minority. Statistics may say late term are more prevalent than by rape, but (without seeing source) we can't infer anything except the numbers. Most reported victims are given emergency BC, and most late term abortions are due to medical necessi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 08:23 PM
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Men are still needed by society for heavy labor (be it mental or physical, in many areas men are vastly superior to women) Please tell me what heavy labor women can't do. Women can perform "mentally" heavy labor just as well as men, and studies have shown they make better business leaders. We've invented machines to do 99% of our heavy labor. The role of men is assumed by the state (provider, protector), Protector, okay if you mean law enforcement or police and the justice system. But I really n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:30 AM
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I know Australia has socialized medicine so I can't speak to that, but in the US IVF is generally not covered by private insurance or Medicaid/Medicare. It's a very expensive procedure so the type of women (like the movie star in the article) to do it will probably be pretty well off financially. Therefore I can't imagine the number of women having IVF being significant. To me it's more likely a single mother got pregnant the good old-fashioned way. This weird obsession with red pill guys about …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:06 PM
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Because they don't want to have sex with the homeless, the addicts, the poor, the handicapped, the mentally ill, the abused, the unhappy mothers and the children without families.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 05:30 AM
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As a preference based on this info alone, A. She's seen the rest and knows what she wants. The other isn't bad though. But in my experience woman B is going to need to let off some steam. Like Stella Got Her Groove Back steam.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:22 AM
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Lol. Eugenics. You know how I know you and your movement are a joke, you compared women having particular taste in men to eugenics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 03:42 AM
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Try 50. 15th amendment 1870 19th amendment 1920 And I understand the complaint about the draft, but do you know what I hate about it? It has nothing to do with slavery or woman's suffrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 03:30 AM
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Aside from all the painting, the purpose is to point out the fact that in the past ~100 years, a TON of advancements have been made to raise women to society as equals. Prior to 1960s, women couldn't have a bank account without a man's cosigner. Go back further they couldn't vote, own property, get higher education. It was even more lopsided if they were poor, which most people were. So being able to provide for a woman and your family of highest importance. And most able-bodied men could fill t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:06 PM
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But if this is true then who can these red pill guys blame when they can't get a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:30 PM
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I think a lot of dudes overlook the fact that women are generally approached by men constantly. Not just bars and clubs, the grocery store, the gym, the gas station, how's it going there, at work, at school, coffee shop.... So if you're not approaching a girl that you're interested in somebody else is. And if they are willing to approach you that they must really like you. I really don't think it's a left first right thing, at least not in my experience. If anything I would say they're more cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:28 PM
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If you constantly give your best to your partner, your love becomes expected. It also discourages your partner from investing in you because they will get your best effort regardless of how they treat you. I think you're on the right track but going the wrong direction. I agree that if you give your best it will become expected, but you are completely ignoring the other partner's actions. If it's a one sided relationship and your partner takes advantage of your giving then yes, you are correct. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:16 AM
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I feel like you're really trying to divide a lot of different men into 2 camps. And the the non-masculine are suddenly soyboys, gay or nonbinary. There's a lot more variability than you posit. But let's go with your grouping. Of course a gay man is going to see it much differently, they have a ton of challenges from society directly because of their sexual identity. Up until recently, their existence was criminal, and despite changes they still face discrimination. Even more so for trans or non-…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:21 PM
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I think you're missing the satire, it's completely a rip-off of PUA with a little (or a lot of) sociopathy thrown in. Would it work with some women? Sure. Is it creepy as hell, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:29 PM
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I think you're on the right track. I've commented and even posted similar, but I think it goes hand in hand with these types of guys never having to work hard towards something. So many young men grow up without ever having to try hard at something. When they do face a challenge, be it school or sports or any other activity, they quit. An example is a majority of these guys seem to be gamers. Nothing wrong with that at all, but games aren't meant to be difficult. You slog along, get power ups, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:11 PM
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1 there's the old saying fake it till you make it. You know like the superhero pose, the psychological trick where if you stand hands on hips in a wide stance you can sort of trick yourself into confidence. But you got to start somewhere, you say you have a job you're not super proud of, be the best one you can be. Then gun for the supervisor position. If it's that unfulfilling is it out of your realm to find something else? Look at trade school, or night classes. In my experience in times of my…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 10:31 PM
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Always follow the equation. It's gender neutral but usually men are older. Your minimum is no younger than half your age +7. Older person (usually the man) = X Younger (usually woman) = Y Y = (X/2)+7 X = (Y-7)*2
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 07:56 PM
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Slaves don't try to escape either, I can't imagine it's because they enjoyed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:51 PM
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Like most social media, it was probably a decent idea at first. Make sure the guy isn't married or a psycho. But yeah, internet groups become echo chambers really quickly. I feel like if it was men doing the same about women it would become real ugly real fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:29 PM
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Go ahead and ask any woman you know. History? You're thinking of a time when women were subjugated, basically property of their husbands/fathers. They were kept away from other men in isolation. I hate to break it to you, but women weren't in harems by choice. They were either their property or slaves. So, slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:01 AM
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I mean, look at the posts and comments to this sub. There are some completely ignorant suggestions, and to challenge anyone's beliefs is like you're spitting in their face. The fact that multiple subreddits have been banned is a huge red flag. As for some "leaders" of the movement or whatever, I've seen pretty misogynistic tweets from guys like Tomassi and Ryan Stone, though looking at recent posts they seem to be chilled out a bit (or I didn't go far enough back, dude retweets himself like craz…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:48 AM
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I remember in college knowing a number of girls that did it. One in particular had a boob job and lipo she wasn't fat by any means, but not slim. After she got it her confidence was sky high. It didn't change her beyond that, but she seemed happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:40 AM
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Do they? And are women in general okay with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:37 AM
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So help me then understand how you go from one to either depression and suicidal thoughts or this redpill ideology that still seems to have a lot of angry, resentful young men (unlike you, of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:36 AM
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I'll bite, I agree slightly. There is certainly undue criticism. But I've seen so many really bad takes and really sexist views that are well deserving of the criticism. Despite the common beliefs that dude Bros and Chad's or whatever get any woman and all the women, these dudes get turned down also. Maybe not as often, maybe only by supermodels and the daughters of Rich Russian oligarchs, but I think just about everyone struggles finding or keeping a relationship at some point. I've been there,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:19 PM
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Question about "natural beauty" I get disliking plastic surgery, but we all age over time and that beauty fades. Would doing skin care, chemical peels, etc count? Hair dying, waxing, etc? Also, what if it was due to a medical necessity or fixing something like crooked nose, etc? I knew a woman who had a breast reduction surgery and she got a lot of shit for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:07 PM
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Nope. It wouldn't bother me in the least. I'd like to know just to maybe understand them as a person. Was it medically necessary? Purely cosmetic? The idea of someone being naturally beautiful is great, but unrealistic, especially in the long run. It reminds me of a post on either r/relationships or AITA, where a woman told her bf she had a boob job after he ranted about how he didn't like fake breasts. He could even tell she had them done. He was super offended and hurt, like she had personally…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:55 PM
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That's a real paradox, right? Not every person is influenced the same maybe. I see black Ariel and it's not even a thought. A young black girl sees a hero. A racist sees woke culture. It's not just what we see but how we identify and internalize it. Society's influence isn't an excuse, it's a driver. I just think, in these men's situations, they haven't been taught to compete or solve problems or work hard, and that's been okay until it's not. It's not necessarily their "fault" but now, as adult…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:43 PM
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Sounds like my ex wife, ayoooooo! Just tried to pick an unappreciated job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:37 PM
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I get the thought, the idea that in an ideal situation you should be all your partner needs sexually. If you can every time then hell yeah. But I I think it's pretty common knowledge that many women don't orgasm from straight vaginal sex, or it can take much longer than for us. It might only happen some of the time, but I'm guessing if she's breaking out the auxiliary power that's not the case. They might in a certain position, or need to be emotionally comfortable or whatever. It's not the idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:35 PM
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That's a great point. Maybe I was simplistic in my view. We certainly have fewer and fewer healthy masculine role models. And the Internet has done a great disservice to men (and women) in how the loudest and most controversial often get the most attention, and end up on top of our feeds. Not just with men and the manosphere, but with religious, political, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:20 PM
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Bravo, and I agree. I know drillers who make good 6-figure salaries. I'm the opposite where I have a better education than most of my colleagues and managers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:47 PM
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There are, there's an entire industry. But I've probably been proven wrong somewhat. It's not the adversity directly, it's learning how to deal with it in a healthy way. Less so traumatic adversity so that was probably the wrong word. More like challenges, big or small.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:44 PM
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And I'd say you can accept that and stay miserable, or maybe talk to a therapist and change. If you're the type of guy I'm referring to, I'd bet on the accept it and stay miserable part. That part is not anyone else's fault though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:27 PM
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I'm saying if she thought that you wanting a BJ meant sex wasn't good enough for you, would you be as understanding? You don't have to accept toys in the bedroom, but I just don't understand the jealousy or insecurity. Maybe try one of those his and hers vibrating 2 way things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:25 PM
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And I would say you're not the guy I'm talking about. Good on you for not accepting defeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:22 PM
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Well, it's not shipbuilding or installing HVAC. Decent paying careers that have a lot of need but no one wants to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:20 PM
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Right. It's not their fault, it's women's fault. If only women had to depend on men for survival then they'd settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:16 PM
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Reread for comprehension. Or maybe I just wasn't clear enough because I've gotten that on another comment. These men haven't learned to overcome adversity in a healthy manner. Abuse and neglect can screw a kid up. Likely in that situation, they weren't taught healthy ways to deal with their problems. Maybe it's not coddling and apathy, either way I feel for them. But it doesn't excuse the misogyny I see. As for the rest, explain? I appreciate the bravo, but I can't imagine you don't comprehend t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:15 PM
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Reread for comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:04 PM
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Love this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:03 PM
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Well, I think your cohorts are missing the point then, because all I see is misogyny and finger pointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:02 PM
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You're doing it. Being a man isn't "working on a cow ranch". It's realizing that if you've tried and failed, you need to change your approach. Its not my fault if I have found a way to learn and grow and overcome a challenge and you haven't. It is your fault if you fail and don't find a way to overcome it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:00 PM
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I see people talking about "looks-maxxing" and the like but all I seem to read is whining and complaining. If it does preach that, nobody is getting to that chapter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:54 PM
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Bro. Preaching to the choir, just trying to use their words to connect and understand. I think it's all extremely sexist and dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:52 PM
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Totally agree, I just think those real world activities are where it's learned, especially in a middle or upper class environment where they'll never face real, existential crises. It doesn't have to be sports and in school, those are just examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:50 PM
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Which is? Because they all seem miserable, alone, and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:47 PM
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No one HAS to build a roof or hunt to survive these days (unless you're in a 3rd world country or something). You're right in that (hopefully)a woman won't have to rely on a man to have safety, shelter, and food. Think back to intro psych, Maslow's hierarchy. Those are the basics of life, you're saying since women don't have to settle for basic survival it's their fault and don't contribute to society? Neither do men, so doubt you've ever done any of that. So work, education, economic activity, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:46 PM
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No, cod doesn't teach you to lose with dignity. You lose, cuss out your team or controller and a new match starts in 60 seconds. Why does everyone expect the hot girl? Because society told us to. Every underdog, boy gets the girl movie, book, TV show ends with the lovable loser getting the girl over the jock. In the real world we don't always get the dream girl, or any girl. But these guys don't know how to accept that. Back to the video game analogy, they went through the motions, bought the ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:33 PM
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Don't get me started on our obsession with higher education here. It's necessary for a lot of careers, but there are a lot of other factors and a lot of really great paying careers out there that don't need it. I think that's why we hear about people with degrees working retail or Starbucks, oversaturation of the labor market. Plus many companies expect years of experience for an entry level position. We were all sold that having a degree meant life would be easy and we'd be wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:26 PM
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So why don't men have to improve themselves? It's not the point of the post at all. Just pointing out a common trait I see with RP men not knowing what that means or how to do it. They were never given the life skills to overcome their own shortcomings. It's probably not even a modern problem, just exacerbated by modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:23 PM
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I agree with 90% of that. I don't mean to defend or normalize their beliefs. There's an established link between b/w thinking and I think borderline personality disorder. I just wonder why. It makes sense going back to parents not parenting. Maybe it's less about not facing adversity or challenges, less being taught how to manage them in a healthy manner. Either way, it seems as though it's a lot of finger pointing. I see that a lot with other groups that tend to blame external rather than inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:20 PM
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Nah, I'd say you've seen all the adversity. I'm sorry my examples weren't more inclusive. I'm pointing out these men have 0 adversity. Middle class kids who glide through life. I don't know anything about your romantic life, but I'm going to assume you don't have trouble finding a way to get what you need. I have nothing but respect for someone in your situation who goes through hell and comes out the other side alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:19 AM
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Woah buddy, throwing out the hard R there. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Bs at a state school and ending up in middle management. Shit, that's my life. And I realize school is hard, I nearly failed out and had to change majors to finish in 5 years. What I'm saying isn't that men have to hustle 21 hours a day with 3 jobs to get a woman, that's projection. I'm saying men don't know how to overcome when going gets tough because it never has. So when it comes time to work to get a mate…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:09 AM
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I love the weird emphasis on government intervention to help average Joe's get laid. But since you guys love the economic-esque comparisons let's do that also, I hate the "value" language you all use, but I'll do my best to not be condescending. If high-value men (hvm) supply goes down, the price of hvm goes up. So women (consumers) will need to pay more for the men. So, in your scenario their currency is their value. Once the market hits equilibrium, all the hvm are taken by highest vw, any oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:25 AM
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I get that, and if you're uncomfortable with it then don't do it, but switch it around. Imagine she says if you want something other than missionary or want oral or anal sex that she feels like she's not enough for you, despite you're willingness to go downtown for as long as it takes?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:08 AM
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I find this so confusing. Why be jealous of an intimate object? If your partner whips out a womanizer 3000 or 14" double sider, she's saying she wants you to participate in her pleasure. She could be using it without you and probably is. Or going elsewhere. Or live life as sexually unfulfilled as an incel at an all-boys online school. Let's be honest boys, even if you're hung like Tommy Lee and rock her all night long, there are days when she doesn't get there. We do 99.9% of the time. And belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:50 AM
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Absolutely. I mean, there are always going to be outliers, but in general I absolutely agree. We live in an age where there's VERY little you can't change about yourself. Physically, socially, mentally. It's not always easy, and much easier for someone with more resources , but it's there. I believe 100% that the last 30 years of giving everyone a ribbon, not keeping score, etc has been detrimental to sooooo many young people, especially men. So many of us never had to work hard. A lot of the me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:37 AM
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It seems like women are turned on by it (at least most are, or all at some point) but I don't think that means you have to walk through the world like an 80s wrestling villain. It has a time and a place. You're thinking in absolutism and that is where being confident turns to being an asshole. As for the sexual side, I'll defer to the women. I assume it too has its time and place, and would get exhausting or even scare some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:13 AM
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You linked a 12 year old article about a divorce in France. This can't be worse than allowing someone to rape their spouse or murder someone. If a woman has been able to use that as a murder defense (and I know of cases where women kill their abusive husbands and still serve prison time) then I'd say it's at worst, equal. Whether it's a legal loophole or intentional, I'd guess the law was written to ensure married men weren't charged for forcing themselves on their wives unless it was egregious.…
/r/MensRights17/01/23 11:21 PM
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By definition, its a miner who doesn't work down in the mine. The behavior isn't something that should be respected or valued. Someone "valuable" should take care of his and his own. And it sounds like a gay sex preference (respect to LGBT+, just saying). Edit: the whole redpill vocabulary is really misogynistic and degrading to both men and women. You guys should get together somewhere now that Tate is in prison and rethink that part. That's probably part of the reason no one takes you seriousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:19 PM
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This is all anecdotal but: I've known a lot of both and it's like 50/50. Some of the craziest nights I've had were with conservative Christian girls. Affairs. Divorces. Kids, lots of kids. But some are in life long relationships, good families and all. I think I know 3 or 4 couples that were very conservative, married young and are still together. 1 of them are a gay couple. I'd say the nonreligious/liberal people were more likely to have good relationships for longer, but took their time to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:22 AM
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As individuals, men often depend on women for emotional support, sex, help in the house, rising children, etc. Women depend on the collective of men for infrastructure, protection, most welfare, and safe environment from natural disasters. First, wtf? This is preposterous. We depend on each other pretty equally for this. Wo do depend on women for childbirth, but raising children is a pretty equal job (or should be), especially when women are 47% of the workforce. So what men tend to contribute t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:20 AM
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Maybe I was being a bit hyperbolic. Top 10 though, might even get on the podium.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 08:35 PM
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I don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:44 PM
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"I'm tired of all of these assumptions going unchallenged" Just look it up, stop being deliberately obtuse. (Edit: these 3 are from the US and I did 0 deep dives. In some countries esp India Marital rape is a huge problem currently being reviewed by their supreme court.) https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2022/06/21/michigan-house-marital-rape-loophole-vote/7691148001/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/nyregion/gay-panic-ny.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.c…
/r/MensRights16/01/23 06:34 PM
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Sorry that specific skit doesn't exist, I'm wrong and therefore this joke is terribly biased and should be censored. #CancelSNL
/r/MensRights16/01/23 03:18 AM
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Yeah, because SNL has NEVER done a skit poking fun at women, black culture, Jewish culture, liberals, conservatives, overweight, gay, etc etc etc. The key is not WHAT the topic is, but HOW you do it. I thought this was hilarious.
/r/MensRights16/01/23 02:55 AM
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It sounds a lot like the defense given in marital rape cases. That men have needs and a wife has given de facto consent. And I think it's related but "gay panic" has been used in assault and murder cases when a man finds out his date is Trans or was hit on by a gay man.
/r/MensRights16/01/23 02:43 AM
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The thing is, most people don't get this. Unless they are exceptional or in the public eye, the best you'll get is a "hi handsome" from a sweet old lady. This is where the whole "internal motivation/self-love" stuff comes in. When I was young and fit the only people I ever got that sort of positive support was guy friends talking about my muscles or whatever. You will most certainly not get it from a woman because a lot of men will immediately assume that's an invitation for them to hit on or ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:52 AM
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You at least you have the capacity for more nuanced reflection and more abstract thought than OP. My point is 90% of this value discussion is based on the idea is that women's value is entirely based upon their beauty and willingness to carry children. If economic theory, it turns women to depreciating commodities. Or worse yet a negative externality, while men get to enjoy being the rational consumer, devoid of any fault for their actions. The argument isn't that attraction doesn't exist, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:41 AM
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What about increasing tax for men who do the same? I think men are the ones wired for hypergamy considering we can impregnate multiple people at one time and generally the strongest of us are the ones who have more partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:01 AM
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As long as they don't get divorced right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:00 AM
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This might be the most misogynistic, illogical, ill conceived, unprocessed, just bizarre line of thinking read on this sub. And I feel like that saying a lot. Like I would laugh if I didn't think you were serious. I hope you're never in charge of anybody ever, I half hope you're not in charge of your own decisions. This is insulting to women, this is insulting to men. Men of this sub, just do better. All I am seeing is a bunch of self-pitying, blame passing, anti woman rhetoric. I really feel so…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:50 AM
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Yeah that doesn't sound normal at all. You should probably see a doctor. I'm 41, had plenty energy in my 30s for going out, working hard, taking care of a family. I have plenty of friends my age with young children. There are plenty of 20 somethings for a great parents, but I know I would not have been one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:27 PM
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Okay. Argument: this type of thinking is bad because it's shallow, misogynistic, and self-loathing. It creates unobtainable standards for young men. They will either a) strive for these goals and never get there or b) not and resent anyone they perceive as "higher-value" for having a fulfilling relationship. These men focus so much on looks and money, completely ignoring their own personal strengths and shortcomings. Strengths that are probably very attractive to some one. And shortcomings that …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:06 AM
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You said you don't compare yourself to other men but consider yourself high value? Anyways, if humanity was so easily predicted things would be a lot easier on us all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:08 AM
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This reeks of immaturity and dichotomous thinking. Anytime I see "high-value/low value" I cringe for the young generation. Relationships are not an economic theory. Men's "worth" is more than their bank account and jawline. Women's "worth" is not vaginocentric. Until you move past these weird middle-ages based, sabermetric style caste systems for relationships, you're always going to view yourself as the low value man constantly comparing yourself to other men and blaming women for being miserab…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:12 AM
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I was referencing the man in this situation. In my experience, insecure guys who have been hard up for a relationship for a long time end up being really controlling and jealous. I'm sure it's the same for women though. Constantly worried if they're good enough or if their partner is going to leave them so they do everything they can to stop that from happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 01:16 AM
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This is exactly why so many of the guys on this sub get so worked up about women only going for hot guys or guys with money. Whether he could get someone hotter isn't the point. If you're that interested in other people and think so little of your partner you really should just move on and let them do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 11:38 PM
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That's absolutely cheating. I think a lot of people, myself included, we feel more betrayed by this than meaningless sex. What you are describing is openly looking for a new relationship while holding on to the old one and leading your partner on that there's nothing wrong. You can't help meeting new people out in the world and be attracted to them, but you have to have respect for your partner and yourself to either not pursue someone else or end it with your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 11:31 PM
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Work on yourself doesn't necessarily just mean take a shower and go for a jog. It means work on your self-esteem, work on your worldview. Talk to a therapist or a life coach or something maybe. No, building model ships in a bottle isn't going to replace the need for a relationship. But a miserable person outside of a relationship is probably going to be a miserable person in a relationship. These are the same guys that end up being super needy and controlling, jealous of everything their partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 07:17 PM
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No, misogynistic is a term for a man being generally shitty. Like your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 02:12 AM
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This. My experience is that women (and society in general) appreciates hard work and trying to better yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 02:11 AM
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Sure, but attractiveness is such a spectrum, and there is so much you can do to be more attractive. And it doesn't have to be all cosmetic surgery and steroids. A LOT of being attractive is how you present yourself. Ask any woman and confidence is attractive. Look at Pete Davidson. Dude is not attractive in the traditional sense... Look at his history. Your hypothetical men are just that. Sure being unattractive is going to make it harder, it sucks and societal pressure to look good makes it wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 02:09 AM
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Excellent point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 01:57 AM
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I really hate the terms alpha and beta, I think most so-called alphas are just making excuse to be an asshole, the rest of them are covering up insecurities. I think people confuse that with confidence, but women are approached by men constantly, especially on social media and stuff. And most women, or just people in general can spot authenticity and real confidence a mile away. Confidence is hard, you have to build it in yourself, having the most beautiful woman in the world on your arms won't …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 01:54 AM
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Right it's all their fault, if they'd only just give up the pee a little bit easier. But not too easy, just the right amount of easy. But really just have no standards, but have some standards. Just the right amount of standards. But not expecting anything in return, well expect a little bit of return, just the right amount in return. Not so much that I have to work for it or try, as long as I show up that should be enough. If I don't show up they should come looking for me, but not too much. Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 10:08 PM
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Yes, men are 100% responsible for their actions, even if they use protection. I understand the biological urge, it's really hard to say no in that situation, but no one is forcing them to have sex 99.99% of the time. We all know condoms and birth control are not 100% effective (I mean, it's never failed me and I've put a lot of faith in them over my lifetime). But yes, if you know there's an even remote possibility of pregnancy, then you are responsible for that. My dad had that talk with me whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 08:53 PM
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Doesn't require to be good looking to have confidence. It's really sad that society puts so much emphasis on our looks, but tell me what have you done to change it? I I'm really sorry if that's true, if you're dealing with a disability or disfigurement in some way, but I've had plenty of unattractive male friends and acquaintances have fulfilling relationships with women including being married and having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 08:10 PM
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Fairpoint, I think it's because these guys that claim they are in cells are generally lacking any sort of real personal responsibility. They have an entire vocabulary of how they describe other people in usually very negative ways. I haven't seen any sort of self-reflection, and there is a lot of hate. It's like somebody complaining about their health but refusing to change their diet or stop smoking or drinking, then blaming fit people. It becomes a circle jerk of whose life is worse rather tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 07:57 PM
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Using this logic man do get a say, we choose whether to have sex or not. We choose who to have sex with, whether or not to wear a condom. Or is it the lack of control over someone else's body the problem? You can only control yourself in your own body, so get a vasectomy or practice your pull-out game. But you don't get to skirt the responsibilities of a child when you know that could be the outcome. You could choose to drink and drive, it's your body but if you hurt someone you go to prison, ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 07:40 PM
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Ding ding ding ding. These aren't "women" behaviors, they're toxic behaviors I've seen men do just as much if not more. Also, to add, of course you should stand by your partner (or friend, family, etc) when someone badmouths them, but tell them. Just shutting down doesn't fix anything. Unless its egregious, tell them what they did that hurt you and why. Everyone has their nonnegotiables, but if your partner doesn't know that, they can't fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 05:55 AM
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No. She didn't "find a better mate" like she's car shopping. You just weren't it. Don't be mad at women because one, or even ten, didn't fall head over heels because you paid for dinner and held a door open. It's not because the next guy was better looking, richer, funnier, blah blah. It's because you just didn't spark her fire. Keep looking. There are so many more women out there. Join a club, go volunteer. Go to church. Ask your auntie to set you up. It's not your bank account. Plenty of poor …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 05:45 AM
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Because incels have a tendency to praise other incels for their violence against women. They're creating a subculture of hating women, normalizing hate and violence because they refuse to hold themselves accountable for shitty behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 04:22 AM
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You're saying that as "punishment" the father should not be held responsible? And that is going to "teach" women a lesson not to get involved with "assholes" or something. I'm sure women swoon to you. They're not absolved of their responsibilities. They have to raise a fucking child.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 03:53 AM
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Why shouldn't men be held to that same standard? So if a man gets someone pregnant and doesn't hold himself responsible for his choices it's the woman's fault somehow? Why not make good decisions? Sounds like someone doesn't want to be held responsible for their actions, then comes with the nice guy act "lots of guys would gladly marry them but they don't want them". Take responsibility for yourself first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:34 AM
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You do realize child support is paid by the father (absent parent), only forced by the govt via wage garnishment if they don't pay. Are you suggesting that if a woman gets pregnant the father shouldn't be held responsible? Only the mother? And if she can't or won't for whatever reason, the kids should what? Start working in the mines? We went through this, it was the pre-1900s and it doesn't work out well for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:27 AM
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You're saying that the high rates of poverty, high crime, high emigration, etc is because there are too many single mothers? I think you're blaming the effect on the cause. I would venture a guess that it has more to do with lack of jobs and poverty, low economic stability and the influence of drug/gang gang violence thanks to 60 years of a failing drug war. Not to mention anytime a non-capitalist movement started, we in the US would destabilize the area immediately. Poverty in Latin America is …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:18 AM
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There's more attention brought on it in the last decade but old habits die hard. Kind of related there's a huge civil case related to medical equipment like O2 sensors misreading black people leading to misdiagnosis and improper care for covid-19. Here are just two articles, top of the list when I Google "medical biases women" and "medical gaslighting women" medical gaslighting women medical biases women I've seen it happened first hand with my wife, it's like to unnecessary surgeries including …
/r/MensRights12/01/23 06:08 PM
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I don't think women are any more attracted to hot guys and men are hot gals. I think men, the average schlub, the men you're focusing on are just clueless to it. I think society has handed us a lot to where we don't have to work hard at anything. Like actually put in effort. In reality, there's so much more to attracting women than being hot. Sure, abs and big arms catch their eye, but it takes more than that to go beyond a look. And in my experience, "looks-maxxing" only ever got me compliments…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:05 AM
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I think that's mostly going to be due to their environment. You meet people in your social circle, and are going to be attracted to people with similar interests. A tow truck driver probably isn't going to meet someone at a formal gala. An engineer probably won't find love at the stock show. Nothing against anyone or their education/career.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 05:38 AM
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Hell yes. It's just as easy to fall in love with a rich girl as it is a poor one. But I like my career so stay at home would depend on just how much we're talking. Upper middle class living? Yeah, I'm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 05:07 AM
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And I said that's because they have options now and aren't reliant on men to provide for them. Things that weren't nearly as realistic a couple generations ago. But I would have to see real data to believe that men are trying harder to stay in relationships in general. Anecdotally, I've seen just as many men be flippant about relationships as women if not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 04:55 AM
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I'm sure there are a lot of reasons, they do less drug test on women due to possible impacts on a baby if they were to be pregnant. But there's always been medical biases that women are tougher to pain or hysterical, more emotional. Many are misdiagnosed, or told their symptoms are psychosomatic, due to stress, etc. I watched an emergency room doc diagnose my wife's severe carpal tunnel related pain to having "paint on her hands". Normal, latex interior paint from painting a room. Not, you know,…
/r/MensRights12/01/23 04:50 AM
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No, but men love sex. And if a man has money and wants sex he's going to have it. I would say a lot of the men you're talking about also really loved the power. There's a certain amount of power and prestige being able to use money to have sex with beautiful women. And if someone's buying then someone is going to be selling. The fact that some of these guys were married and willing to risk so much goes to show the biological drive that sex has. Trust me it's not just rich men who are willing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:04 AM
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I think it's more the fact that women don't have to be in a relationship with a man to make it. 50 or 60 years ago a woman couldn't even get a bank account, men dominated almost every high paying profession (still doing a lot of them), and society shunt women who didn't get married and have babies at the young age. Now there's little stopping them from fulfilling their personal needs without a man. I've known women who were single and had a lot of sex, and women who are single and don't. And wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:37 AM
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Women aren't staying in relationships because they don't have to. Why should anyone, man or woman, stay in a relationship that isn't fulfilling. Just 60 years ago they couldn't even have a bank account without a man's cosigning, now they control they're own destiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:21 AM
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Every woman (not really, but your words)has a story of a POS ex because if they weren't, they wouldn't be an ex. Or they would and she'd have no reason to bad mouth him. But as anyone (man or woman) who's been in a bad relationship knows, the shitty ones are the most impactful. No one breaks up amicably and then complains how it ruined their life. Or maybe you just can't attract a "high quality woman" and blame all women rather than looking inward, because 2 comments on a reddit thread say every…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:08 AM
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Historically a lot of drugs haven't been tested on women. Dosages and side effects etc were based on male subjects in the studies. Also historically women I'm more likely to be misdiagnosed or diagnosis take so much longer. Women are much more likely to have a symptom diagnosed as being psychosomatic, especially in regards to chronic pain or autoimmune diseases. . on top of that, due to women needing to leave the workforce more often for family care they're more likely to have insufficient Healt…
/r/MensRights12/01/23 12:34 AM
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