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mail that she is being oppressed by the color red, whatever something prods her to test the situation. You get angry because you though is "why are you doing this, we are past this I though." But you have to realize: THIS GAME DOES NOT END UNTIL YOU ARE 6 FEET IN THE G Wow dude this is really refreshing frame to view the situation. I'm surprised this is not upvoted more.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/21 12:48 PM
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Amazing, thank you for the great post
/r/TheRedPill18/03/20 02:55 PM
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Try to join a fraternity. The value of being a brother is massive. Ive seen really try hard frat guys get girls. Being in a fraternity also connects you to a lot of other college girls, so a bulk of the work has been done for you. If you for some reason can't make it through the pledging for the fraternity (like I did), I'd advise you to befriend the fraternity brothers. Showing up to a party being able to greet the frat Bros like you know them looks very good in eyes of the onlooker. Socialize …
/r/seduction05/09/16 08:54 AM
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I started out my journey on this sub like 3ish years ago. It gave me insane amounts of knowledge that I've never come across. Not sure if the quality of posts of this sub has gone down, or I've gotten better throughout the years, but about a year or so ago I've realized I'm not learning anything here. However since I am still subscribed to this sub I occasionally stumble on posts like this, and I do feel like I learn from it and can implement a thing or two into my game. Your snatch away move is…
/r/seduction21/04/16 11:16 PM
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I like it too! Care to share any more interesting stories? I think the greatest sticking point in the story is initiating the playfulness. I personally have a hard time starting it unless it happens naturally. And once it gets going its easy to snowball it.
/r/seduction21/04/16 06:48 PM
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I like this story. Nowadays I have to remind myself to pay attention to the girl instead of flipping through what seduction technique I have to use next.
/r/seduction29/03/16 01:33 AM
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I might be wrong, but usually when girls call you a player or fuckboy she's already pretty attracted. She has the idea you're with many women (you may or may not, but it doesn't matter). However at the same time, she doesn't want to feel played, like used just for sex. I'd probably keep the game stuff on the down low, and focus on really building a connection and do some escalation.
/r/seduction18/11/15 04:15 AM
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Trust her Honest Signals as Vadim likes to say. Pay attention to her actions and not take what she says literally. Also if you've been talking to her for a while now, ask her out. It's always so much easier gauging what people mean when you talk to them in person.
/r/seduction18/11/15 03:42 AM
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DO NOT SPILL YOUR GUTS WHATEVER YOU DO. It's going to be an attraction killer!! You can probably downplay what a fuckboy means. Be like "I'll take that as a compliment".
/r/seduction18/11/15 03:33 AM
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I have spent a limited time rushing for a frat. I did not make it as a brother. However during my time there, it was really easy for me to open girls and have massive social proof. I opened most girls who come in with "welcome to our frat house" and if they indicate anytime that they haven't been here before let them know that you can show them where things are, and to come find them. This creates HUGE social proof because first of all girls dig frat boys period. Welcoming them this way will let…
/r/seduction31/10/15 11:51 PM
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Hey, thanks for the detailed reply. I really appreciate it. I think for most guys its just something that you want to try at least once before you die. Its kinda like back when you were a virgin and you just really really want to feel what's it like to have sex.
/r/seduction21/10/15 04:05 AM
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What about with a girl that I'm sleeping with + her friend who I haven't met yet?
/r/seduction19/10/15 11:02 PM
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Hey, great post here! I just wanted to ask: when a girl tells you that she may be into girls, how do we get from that to talking about setting up with a threesome? Especially if its a shy girl.
/r/seduction19/10/15 02:16 AM
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I really like your point about visualizing. I noticed that I do it myself after reading this, but now I'm going to do it more. Thanks for the tips!
/r/seduction21/08/15 03:58 PM
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I also find the attraction part to be the toughest to understand. For me it just happens, and I know it when there is. However it's just hard to create it.
/r/seduction19/08/15 09:54 PM
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It's safe to say the girl isn't interested in you anymore. You still have 13 days! Go back on tinder, go out and do whatever. You still have time!
/r/seduction19/08/15 07:02 PM
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It's over. Rookie mistake to open about vulnerabilities. It's ok, I've done that before. Not saying to lie to the girl, but remember to not say things that make yourself look unattractive.
/r/seduction19/08/15 06:52 PM
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Bro no homo, but you're a good looking dude. I've seen not so good looking guys do well with women. You just need to start approaching more
/r/seduction14/08/15 02:27 AM
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People need to learn to read before seducing girls.
/r/seduction27/05/15 12:19 PM
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Your example seems fine to me. The way you say it is also very important. The mindset you should have is being unaffected by it, or even taking it as joke, where you genuinely think its funny.
/r/seduction29/04/15 02:21 PM
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Just continue whatever you're doing. Obviously you're doing something right. You can pretty much ask her out on a date already. Usually I'll do the following for my first text: Continue the conversation from Tinder and end it with my name, just so she knows its me. Depending on her reaction I may ask her out now, or after a few messages.
/r/seduction29/04/15 02:17 PM
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She added his number in her phone, and also they talked for an hour. No way she's going to not know its him. Its probably a flake. Perhaps OP can try texting something flirty or interesting that happened to strike up conversation. If she doesn't respond, next.
/r/seduction31/03/15 11:22 PM
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It also depends on your tonality. The difference between being smooth and not smooth when complimenting her, is that you want full confidence, 100% commitment to what you're saying in order for it to be smooth.
/r/seduction04/03/15 06:47 AM
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I'm currently in a shithole where I either get fake numbers or the girl won't respond to my first texts even though I thought the interaction went super well. I'm just curious of those 7 numbers, how many of them actually responded to your first text?
/r/seduction01/02/15 05:36 PM
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I'm no expert but it seems like you understand the concepts from reading all the material, but you don't really believe it deep down since you haven't experienced success with it. For myself I think the journey of being beat down real good, and physically see myself climb back up and be able to hold my ground gave me a true sense of confidence. And I got this feeling from doing Brazilian Jiujitsu. It's a hard martial art to get started on and get good at because you do get your ass kicked by guy…
/r/seduction01/02/15 07:47 AM
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If you started at 21, how old are you now?
/r/seduction27/01/15 10:59 PM
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Truth is even if you're going out alone, you aren't really alone... Start talking to people and you'll realize that some people will actually reciprocate and you'll find yourself with somebody to hang out with. Of course you won't meet that person every single time you go out alone, but the important thing is to keep socializing!
/r/seduction09/01/15 10:41 PM
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Thanks for posting this FR. This sub is full of useless information recently, but I've definitely learned something from this post. One question though, how long was the wait between the date and you texting her again?
/r/seduction08/12/14 02:01 AM
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I have to disagree on this one. I think the highest quality men wouldn't be influenced by the stuff women throw at them. Since the girl is interested, why not try to pursue? If you eject because you thought she was rude in the beginning, you're being influenced by her. I think OP should have gave it a try, figure out her personality. If she really is a bitch and not a person worth knowing, then eject asap.
/r/seduction30/11/14 05:28 AM
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There's also a surgery that you can do. Doctor basically deactivates a nerve in your armpits and it really reduces sweat production
/r/seduction28/11/14 05:38 PM
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You could agree and amplify: "Oh yeah for sure I'm totally trying to pick you up. winks at the guy" Edit: I re-read this and I realized that wasn't exactly what you were asking, but the key is to not take these social situations too seriously. That way you can agree and amplify naturally, and make the interaction fun for yourself
/r/seduction22/11/14 08:23 PM
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I can confirm. I used to behave this way in high school, basically I did it because that's what I thought would attract girls. If I show them I care this much about them, they would reciprocate.
/r/askTRP22/11/14 08:18 PM
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Hey I've actually read all points you posted, and I've definitely been following them already. Like you I'm a quiet guy. But right now I'm having trouble with dates. I don't feel the chemistry with the girls I go on dates with. Throughout the date the girls would talk a lot about themselves and it'll end up being a friendly interaction. I can't seem to transition from friendly to being sexual. Do you have any pointers for this? Also, I think its important to note that I am a bit nervous during d…
/r/seduction08/11/14 08:42 PM
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Hey I'd go with the flow on this one. I've been on a date with a girl who brought a friend. Basically during the second half of the date, the friend excused herself and left. And we were left alone. Just be chill and engage the friend as well. it should work out well.
/r/seduction04/11/14 02:26 AM
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That was beautiful
/r/askTRP03/11/14 11:09 PM
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What did you say to qualify the bi chick?
/r/seduction03/11/14 02:10 AM
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I doubt it. Yad is a pretty well known coach. Could be possible though, but I've experienced girls who reacted very positively from my direct approach.
/r/seduction22/10/14 02:02 AM
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I think your best approach right now is to approach as much as you can. You don't want to put all your eggs in one basket. What if she rejects you? You'll be devastated. Approach random girls you see, you'll realize that talking to girls won't kill you, AND you'll feel good after the approach. This will also build up your confidence so that when you do see her again, you will hesitate less to approach. Last but not least, if you start approaching now, you'll realize you have so many other opport…
/r/seduction16/10/14 03:31 AM
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You can probably start by improving how you interact with females. Cuz I know I can make my female friends laugh and feel comfortable by being myself.
/r/seduction15/10/14 01:13 PM
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How are your relationships with female friends that you're not trying to hit on?
/r/seduction15/10/14 04:16 AM
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You get to know her on a personal level after you've said hi to her. That's basically how basic relationships work.
/r/seduction15/10/14 03:44 AM
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There is no way a chick would flip out on you after she was that receptive. You've messed up somewhere after the compliment. Maybe you had a needy vibe going on (girls are really sensitive to that, and its a very unattractive trait) So if you don't have the mentality that you can walk away anytime, she won't be attractive to you. Once she senses that you're needy, and you keep on persisting after that, she'd get annoyed. That's just my opinion. Edit: You might want to find yourself a friend or w…
/r/seduction15/10/14 03:41 AM
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I'm no pro (I've been doing daygame less than you) but maybe you're being too nice? Tonality is very important, make sure you let her know that you find her attractive, and say it like you mean it. Teasing or challenging what she says also ramps up the attraction quite a bit. And finish strong by make a connection (proceed to more personal topics) I always analyze myself if a girl flakes. I'll walk through the general steps I took in the interaction and make a mental note of where I could have d…
/r/seduction15/10/14 03:34 AM
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It's really hit and miss. A lot of times i'll feel like the interaction was solid, but it'll still end up in a flake. Try approaching girls you don't find attractive, if they're receptive then you'll know you're doing something wrong
/r/seduction15/10/14 02:24 AM
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Don't call! Texting is way better. Makes you seem to invest less in her, which means less pressure on her
/r/seduction15/10/14 01:16 AM
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Vadim, I've not a complete newbie when it comes to seducing women. I sometimes manage to get girls to go on dates with me on another day after I get their numbers. I've frequently run into trouble on the first date. Here's some of my problems. I lose the momentum I have with the girl. The vibe and excitement I got from meeting her doesn't translate properly to the first date. I can't seem to build deep rapport and feel a deep connection with the girl. Should I feel like I'm talking to a best fri…
/r/seduction30/09/14 09:29 PM
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AH! I think that's it the sexual vibe. I was just really going with the conversation I didn't really say anything sexual. She did say she was hesitant when she gave me her number, saying that she just broke up with her boyfriend, which makes me think that your analysis is spot on. Thank you so much!!!
/r/seduction16/09/14 12:33 PM
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Thanks for your reply. I did notice I was really relaxed in the whole interaction. Whenever there's a silence, I'd look away a bit, and she'll come up with another topic to talk about. However I'm beginning to think that I might have gave her too much power, and she ended up leading the interaction? I was leading a lot in terms of kino, I initiated holding hands and kissing. Maybe she just wasn't that into me because it was a really quick number close I did on her (less than 2 min)
/r/seduction15/09/14 08:31 PM
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How can I be more of a challenge for her?
/r/seduction15/09/14 12:39 AM
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Ill give that a try!
/r/seduction14/09/14 06:55 PM
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That's a good point, I'll give that a try
/r/seduction14/09/14 05:14 PM
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You're misunderstanding, she's actually ignoring my texts. I don't know if I should ask her on another date (to show my interest, but I mean I already have by kissing/ holding hands on the date) or I should establish some solid conversation first before asking her on another date (to not sound needy). Right now I'm waiting it out to see if we can have an actual conversation over text because she's only sent me one text over the span of 4 days.
/r/seduction14/09/14 04:01 PM
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Haha, I'm guessing you kinda feel like you're at the point of just starting to understand game. There's still so much to uncover and learn
/r/seduction14/09/14 03:49 PM
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You first need to build an image of yourself this is the most important. Here's how you do it: Arrive early and start talking to everybody. Guys, girls everybody. I've found that talking to guys are easier when you're trying to warm up. Do this until it starts to get busy. If there's a dancefloor, dance like nobody's watching you. You'll become the fun party guy that girls like to hang out with Take risks. Make eye contact with a girl, lead by grabbing her hand and start dancing with her. This t…
/r/seduction13/09/14 12:39 AM
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I also really like this line from models: "If I can't, I must".
/r/seduction09/09/14 04:13 PM
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Do not feed the troll
/r/seduction05/09/14 05:05 AM
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Thanks!
/r/seduction04/09/14 01:31 AM
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Its hard to identify what the problem is without knowing the whole story. I think you should post a detailed description of what happened if you want some solid advice.
/r/seduction31/08/14 05:22 AM
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I've saved this for future references.
/r/seduction08/08/14 06:03 PM
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For me I read a ton of theory about seduction but I had trouble applying it in real life. It was just too much pressure for me to express myself in person. Tinder was the solution. I started experimenting on the way I was talking to the girls I was interested in. You really want to push yourself from one extreme to another (i.e going from just "Hey nice to meet you" to "Hey want to fuck?") and for me I kind of found the balance between softness and aggression doing it enough times. I think once …
/r/seduction03/08/14 12:57 PM
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Covert contracts is a term used in the book No more mr nice guy. I suggest you read it. Anyways that basically means that you're doing something for a girl you really like and expect her to reciprocate and like you back (i.e. buying her stuff, taking her out on expensive dates).
/r/askTRP02/08/14 09:21 PM
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Are you any good socializing with females purely friendship based? I'm asking this because throughout highschool I was actually good with talking to girls and had tons of female friends. The problem was, I never expressed my feelings which held me back a lot.
/r/seduction02/08/14 01:20 PM
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I think you should tell a good friend that you trust about your situation. Tell him/her to stop you when you are about to cheat.
/r/seduction25/07/14 02:13 PM
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This makes total sense. I guess I relied too much on her to reject him herself. I guess I learned my lesson. Anyway, do you have any advice in terms of logistics? Assuming I did not get AMOG'ed, would I just flat out invite her to my place?
/r/seduction13/07/14 11:00 PM
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The only girl there had a boyfriend and he was standing right next to her. Would that still have worked?
/r/seduction13/07/14 10:32 PM
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That was exactly what I was thinking of doing. But there were no girls nearby
/r/seduction13/07/14 06:40 PM
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Thanks for your input. Reflecting back on it, I believe that I felt that most people were really closed off or stuck up that night, which caused me to become very defensive. After reading all these comments, it really helped the following night because I started being very calm and unaffected by other people.
/r/askTRP13/07/14 05:15 PM
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Yeah that makes sense, I did feel a disconnect. I knew I should be socializing, but the thought of needing to do that put additional pressure to it, and I'm not good at it to begin with.
/r/seduction13/07/14 04:00 PM
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Okay so I just did this once in my life, and the girl wasn't interested in my as I found out later. But we still had a decent conversation. She was on an exercise bike, and I went to the one right beside hers and started working out. Right away I turned to her and said "hows it going?" and everything works out pretty smoothly from there
/r/seduction13/07/14 02:36 PM
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Gameplan was trying to get some attention onto myself, make eyecontact and approach
/r/askTRP13/07/14 02:29 PM
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I guess in this case, I didn't even need to say anything and just walk away.
/r/askTRP12/07/14 11:57 PM
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That actually so true. I needed that dose of reality.
/r/askTRP12/07/14 11:56 PM
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Okay cool what you mean is that I messed up. Why are you giving me useless passive aggressiveness? It's not going to help me or anyone who sees this post. If you don't have any advice on how I should deal with this situation, you don't have to comment.
/r/askTRP12/07/14 11:49 PM
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In rare cases, you could get a makeout with girls at a nightclub without talking.
/r/seduction21/06/14 03:54 PM
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The first video is probably fake, because I've seen it. I haven't seen the second one. I'll recommend this video. You will see a difference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8omK5D18j0
/r/seduction21/06/14 12:46 PM
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YOU'RE MY HERO! seriously I can just imagine myself doing that. I'd stumble in between and then just falling into the never ending hole of awkwardness
/r/seduction04/06/14 04:09 PM
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how old are you guys?
/r/seduction02/06/14 05:11 AM
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HAHA! I love the dinosaur line!
/r/seduction01/06/14 08:36 PM
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Hey, first of all that's a great FR. I just have a couple of questions. What are some of the things you said when they brought up the age? Also what did you say when your girl was called a slut?
/r/seduction01/06/14 08:02 PM
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Man I feel you. I felt that zombie like life a couple years ago because I was depressed. You should go get some help/ talk to somebody if it doesn't clear up soon. In terms of being mediocre, I think a lot of us are mediocre. I'd consider myself mediocre. I was just at a friend's party a couple of weeks ago and I was pretty much a wall flower while my friend was the life of the party. But that doesn't affect me that much. I have goals in life that I want to achieve, and I urge you to do the same…
/r/askTRP24/05/14 06:25 AM
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I like to smirk after or during my joke to really ensure that what I'm communicating is a joke.
/r/seduction23/05/14 06:01 AM
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haha I don't think she's trying to get back at you. You can't be vulnerable if you don't become needy to her
/r/seduction22/05/14 02:52 AM
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I think that once she started validating herself, you already have the upper hand.. Just go do you.
/r/seduction21/05/14 05:24 PM
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Hey there, I may have a bit of the same problem here. I wouldn't really get hard dancing with a girl and making out. Have you tried actually escalating until clothes are off? Because for myself, this is the time I usually get it, when it gets really sexual. Also you want to stop thinking of disappointing your partner. I know this is difficult to do, but physiologically, when you get nervous like that you activate your body's "fight or flight response". So instead of having blood go into your pen…
/r/seduction16/05/14 04:01 PM
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Thank you for your detailed reply. Could you elaborate on how woman is more valuable in society? When you say love does not exist, do you that mean that if I were to be in a long term relationship, the emotions I experience with a girl is generated from a "give and take" type of relationship? "Always improve yourself. every day till you die." This is a point that really stands out to me. I am already doing it and I don't plan on stopping soon. Right now I do not stand out to females. I guess the…
/r/askTRP15/05/14 03:21 PM
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I've been reading /r/seduction for a while now. I've realized most of the stuff on there is really repetitive. whereas trp gives me a different perspective, but it is also difficult to digest. But thanks for your reply. I'll definitely give those books a read
/r/askTRP14/05/14 09:04 PM
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I'm still new to trp, so the way I understand it is when you told the girl you're hitting off well with that you're in chemical engineering, she changed her perception of you to a provider role?
/r/TheRedPill14/05/14 04:27 PM
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I don't understand when Tyler says that the guy is shamed if he tried to venture out of his "provider role". My question is, how can the dentist bypass that first impression that he's a provider? I mean Tyler used the same pole dancer joke and it worked for him. Is it all in confidence/ tonality?
/r/TheRedPill14/05/14 03:52 AM
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Here's an example. When I did my first approach a was a nervous wreck, sweaty hands, fidgety, almost shaking. Fifth approach: still have sweaty hands but i've stopped fidgeting and no visible signs of nervousness. 10th approach: I'm still nervous but no more sweaty hands Future approaches: Meh she's just a girl, if i fuck this up, there's plenty of other opportunities (ABUNDANCE MENTALITY)
/r/seduction11/05/14 09:14 PM
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that was beautiful!
/r/seduction10/05/14 12:45 AM
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This is what I've been missing from daygame. Hope it helps!
/r/seduction09/05/14 04:07 PM
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Personally I've learned a lot from Tinder. The main thing I learned is that you can say almost anything to a girl. The crude jokes I'd crack with my buddies can work on girls. I think it really lets you test seduction theory to test without being scared of failure since you keep matching with people. Also I set up several dates with girls from Tinder. For beginners like me its so easy to set up dates with girls that don't make you nervous and its good to experience going on dates so that you won…
/r/seduction02/05/14 01:46 AM
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Well I'm halfway through my biomedical engineering degree and I'm already hearing stories of graduates not being able to find a job without doing their masters degree. The job market is very competitive nowadays. You need a stellar education to get a decent job. You need a stable income in order to live comfortably. While your game wouldn't really be affected once you come out of highschool, you need to look at the long term: once your financial support is cut down, you're on your own. So if you…
/r/seduction21/04/14 03:36 PM
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Hmm I don't think I have the symptoms outlined in the article, but I do find that I sometimes have trouble vocalizing a thought in my mind, or have trouble finding the right words to use when I'm explaining or describing a lengthy topic. I'm guessing your treatment isn't medication based, but more like speech exercises? I'm curious because if I start to find my problem is starting to really deter me, I will have to seek some professional help.
/r/seduction20/04/14 08:29 PM
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Care to elaborate a bit on how ADHD caused your introverted personality, and how the treatment made you extroverted?
/r/seduction20/04/14 04:00 PM
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I don't think this is a good example. Sure there's one or two girls who are bisexual or lesbian and quickly gives her their numbers. But if you look at the reactions of the rest of the girls often they're really confused and awkward even when giving out their number. Second thing is, the girl asking for numbers did so without being 100% confident. There is a doubt in her voice that really makes it seem that she's unsure of herself.
/r/seduction13/04/14 03:16 AM
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I'm 20 as well and I'd like to give this a try
/r/seduction10/03/14 05:32 AM
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You may have been a douche in that situation, but having the balls to admit you were wrong makes up for it. All of us had our share of embarrassing situations, that's what makes us better
/r/seduction25/01/14 11:23 PM
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I knew gingers don't have souls
/r/TheRedPill24/01/14 01:58 AM
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I'll admit, I've been using facebook growing up, mainly for lurking. Recently I've posted a new profile picture, and to my surprise, I'm getting likes from random people that I haven't been talking to for years. That lead me to think: why would they want to do me a favour, when we aren't really friends (just people that know each other)? It is simply a "help you, help me" mindset. They liked my picture, in hopes of me liking back theirs in the future when they post a new picture. I've noticed th…
/r/TheRedPill24/12/13 05:28 PM
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I'm no pro, but here are my suggestions: I've read somewhere that crossing arms is sort of a negative body language, meaning the person doesn't really feel open/ willing to talk. I'm sure girls at that age are still very, very insecure about themselves, so I would suggest building some comfort like smiling. I think she's just shy. I think its perfect that you have a mutual friend, so when all 3 of you are talking, and she's not participating, you should directly put her into the conversation. Fo…
/r/seduction18/12/13 01:14 PM
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At 14:15, she talks about shit testing her boyfriend at the movie theater. How would one pass the shit test in that scenario?
/r/seduction13/12/13 02:35 PM
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I'm no expert, but the K-close idea seems amazing. You should definitely try it! Edit: I did not read the last paragraph before posting, but I knew it'd work well!
/r/seduction29/11/13 11:44 PM
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How would gaming ugly girls work? Wouldn't it come across very fake to hit on a girl that you don't find attractive? What's your approach?
/r/seduction27/11/13 04:59 AM
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Oh man I'm glad that you posted this. Makes me think of that time where I had a girl tell me I was cute and hugged me from behind. I was too chicken to make a move even when she gave me all the signals.
/r/seduction27/11/13 12:20 AM
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Rapid Escalation by Liam Mcrae http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Z4Nq0OrrM&list=WLB3E893DBBA166FAC
/r/seduction05/11/13 04:04 AM
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I cannot agree more, I've recently watched a video on rapid escalation which involved a kino really quickly once an interaction starts. Although I found the video quite interesting, it was hard to imagine that I could pull that off. Fast forward to a couple of weeks later, I was asking for a girl for directions when I was walking home from a party. I was quite drunk, but that rapid escalation mindset subconsciously kicked in, and I was able to k-close after a few minutes of interaction.
/r/seduction03/11/13 10:46 PM
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I chose to post the bonus footage because I thought it gives a bit more insight to the girls' reaction. You can view the original clip by searching it on his channel
/r/seduction03/11/13 04:42 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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