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Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
43	How can I escalate on girls at a college party?	Fundamentals	20Humble5050	/r/seduction	30/01/22 04:16 PM

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
1	What are some places that are meant for hooking up? The plastic surgeon's office. If you don't meet the women's minimum standards for looks and height you're going to be considered a creep no matter how much game you have.	/r/seduction	28/02/22 11:40 AM
1	I finally found out one of my biggest problems with women Don’t get too excited; women only care about looks and height and using this sort of tactic as a sub-Chad will only creep the girls out.	/r/seduction	09/02/22 02:12 PM
-1	Met hot chick, but she is married The only boyfriends and husbands you should even consider worrying about the ones that are strong enough to knock you out in a fight. Otherwise, the girl is fair game. Remember that modern women have no concept of loyalty and would not hesitate to do the same thing with you once a bigger, better Chad comes along.	/r/seduction	07/02/22 08:43 PM
1	Meeting new people feels impossible Yup, it’s really that bad.	/r/seduction	06/02/22 05:41 PM
4	Fun night, kiss close That explains it then; you are a Chad and your success is down to looks and not game.	/r/seduction	05/02/22 11:42 PM
2	Fun night, kiss close For reference, what is your height and how would you rate your face out of 10? I am sure that this only worked because you are very attractive.	/r/seduction	05/02/22 10:18 PM
1	What’s wrong with people on the sub? sounds like maybe you struggle Of course I struggle; I am 21 years old and haven’t even come close to going on a first date, because I am too short and ugly to meet the extraordinarily high standards of women these days. My low opinion of modern women is independent of that fact. I would have given up on trying to get a girl already but I made an online bet to approach 1,000 before I allowed myself to do so.	/r/seduction	05/02/22 06:59 PM
-2	Meeting new people feels impossible Go abroad. The American dating market is fucked and people who could have gotten a girlfriend only a few years ago now no longer pass the minimum looks and height threshold.	/r/seduction	05/02/22 03:33 PM
1	What’s wrong with people on the sub? How tall are you, and how would you rate your face out of 10? If you're a Chad, it's not your game that made it work.	/r/seduction	05/02/22 03:30 PM
2	How should you ask her if she has a boyfriend? Ask not whether she has a boyfriend, but whether you're strong enough to KO him in a fight. If so, she's fair game.	/r/seduction	05/02/22 03:29 PM
0	What’s wrong with people on the sub? just trying to sleep with girls. That's exactly what I mean; very few modern girls are worth having a relationship with.	/r/seduction	05/02/22 03:28 PM
1	What’s wrong with people on the sub? Do you think that MAYBE the disappearance of that generation is due to the fact that... well... game no longer really works? Since the rise of online dating, the Tinder Chad Buffet giving women limitless options has made having top-tier looks and height totally non-negotiable.	/r/seduction	04/02/22 03:28 AM
-1	How should you behave around girl(s) to make them laugh, smile, chase, wonder, feel safe, feel comfortable around you? Be at least 6'2" with a 7/10 or hotter face.	/r/seduction	04/02/22 03:23 AM
2	Self improving but still no results with women, now what? Looks and height are basically all that matters in 2022. What country do you live in, how tall are you and how would you rate your face out of 10? If you live in America, make plans to spend long periods abroad - get a job there if you can - and do what an increasing number of men are doing, which is to fill all of your sexual needs in foreign countries. Our dating market is buggered beyond belief and female standards are totally out of touch.	/r/seduction	04/02/22 03:13 AM
2	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? No, it was totally incoherent.	/r/seduction	01/02/22 09:04 AM
2	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? I want the best for you too; I am not a doctor, but what you are writing has the hallmarks of schizophrenia.	/r/seduction	01/02/22 06:32 AM
1	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? Please seek psychiatric help.	/r/seduction	31/01/22 03:39 PM
1	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? SHIT. I cannot explain that. You should have the looks and height to get at least something!	/r/seduction	31/01/22 03:38 PM
1	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? To clarify, the challenge ends when I lose my virginity. 1,000 approaches is the point at which I am allowed to completely give up and start finding ways to just cope with the sexlessness long-term if I still get nothing after all that.	/r/seduction	31/01/22 04:48 AM
1	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? Oh, what the hell; I'll be a winner and act! I made an online bet that I would have to approach 1,000 women before giving up on trying to lose my virginity, and I want to complete it by 2030. I can't wait to go back there again and run game properly this time.	/r/seduction	31/01/22 04:12 AM
1	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? We get it; you are a Chad blessed with natural looks and height. Most guys cannot get away with half of the stuff that girls tolerate if it comes from you.	/r/seduction	31/01/22 03:58 AM
2	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? Once again, donate to my sexual harrassment court case fund and I'm all game.	/r/seduction	31/01/22 03:53 AM
1	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? Have you missed a chance to go anywhere with a girl before, or have you not even gotten signs of interest? My advice is to cut your losses and go to any foreign country except Canada, Japan and the Nordic nations, which have dating markets that are just as screwy as America's; you should have no problem ascending abroad. I still can't understand why you cannot do so in America, though, and I'm about as Blackpilled as they come in terms of emphasising the importance of looks and height. How many …	/r/seduction	31/01/22 03:33 AM
1	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? I will have to be bolder next time. I'd appreciate if this subreddit could set up a fund to cover my court fees, though.	/r/seduction	31/01/22 01:48 AM
2	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? Oh dear, that's not encouraging... although you do mog some of the guys that I saw getting action. I'm not sure why you apparently fall short of the 2022 minimum looks and height threshold but those guys didn't.	/r/seduction	31/01/22 12:54 AM
2	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? People notice me (tall) and tend to want to chat with me at events. I have no problems socially and can walk up to any group and fit right in. Wow, how ugly is your face for you to get that lack of results?	/r/seduction	31/01/22 12:38 AM
0	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? ur problem is, ur either ugly or antisocial. Both. And short. plus girls will give u eye contact which is an invitation to approach. It is? Dang.	/r/seduction	31/01/22 12:35 AM
0	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? Her friends' reaction was priceless. They looked at her like a freak for daring to give affection to a sub-Chad, and then when she asked me to sit down on the couch with her and I called her cute, that was when they called time and practically hauled her off to the other room. I will be a lot more forward next time I meet her so as not to be flummoxed by that tactic.	/r/seduction	30/01/22 11:20 PM
4	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? I don't think I've ever gotten any indications of interest from a girl until a couple of months ago, when I got my first two. One of them was at the first party I went to where this cute blonde girl stood close to me and started rubbing my hands whilst talking to me, but then her friends gave her a concerned look and pulled her away. The last time around I didn't get any blatant indications of interest but girls were happy to sit next to me on the couch when I asked and they were dancing in sync…	/r/seduction	30/01/22 06:26 PM
7	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? I suppose so. I was bold with a girl once at the insistence of some other guys who were egging me on, but that didn't get me anywhere with her as she made excuses when I asked her out. Later, I got called a creep by one girl I wasn't even hitting on and another group of girls that I didn't even speak to, so that was the end of that. It isn't the fear of rejection that is stopping me from using very bold tactics like asking her to makeout, but the fear of my reputation being ruined if the girl co…	/r/seduction	30/01/22 06:07 PM
5	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? Well, I really haven't had any experience with girls at all, and that's not because I missed any chances. And do you realise how many personality red flags girls "miss" when the potential partner is a Chad? I'm pretty sure it isn't any "Incel vibes" that is making dating for me extremely hard - it is a lack of looks and height.	/r/seduction	30/01/22 06:02 PM
13	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? literally ask her “do you wanna make out for fun?” I’m above average looking That's the only reason that technique worked. I am short and ugly, so I need to be a lot more subtle in order to stay out of trouble. I suppose the only thing I can do is lightly touch her hand and see how she reacts.	/r/seduction	30/01/22 05:58 PM
2	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? Are you speaking from experience here?	/r/seduction	30/01/22 04:28 PM
2	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? I don't think any guys there said anything like that; they just barged in.	/r/seduction	30/01/22 04:26 PM
3	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? I am just being realistic about my chances in an environment where I get constantly mogged by Chads. My life is going well now compared to a year ago and I no longer have nothing to lose if a creeped-out girl ruins my reputation.	/r/seduction	30/01/22 04:25 PM
24	How can I escalate on girls at a college party? “Your ass is driving me wild right now” “Your lips are so sexy” “I want to kiss you right now” That is the sort of thing that will get me MeTooed, considering I do not have Chad-tier looks and height.	/r/seduction	30/01/22 04:22 PM
1	CMV: The push for feminism from beta men backfired. Surprised? You must be new here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/21 09:09 PM
1	Number of partners Oh, I forgot to ask - what is your net worth (in millions)?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/21 09:07 PM
1	Number of partners I’m going to ask a very blunt question here - how many easy opportunities to lose your virginity have you actually spotted? If it’s none, you can’t really claim that it is solely because you want to wait for marriage, as much as you genuinely may want to do so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/21 05:28 PM
1	Number of partners How tall are you, and how would you rate your face out of 10?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/21 05:26 PM
0	Women want a man with an edge and some balls. Looks and status aren’t enough Obviously I could be lying but you have a couple people here directly contradicting your narrative with lived experiences, obviously it's all just anecdotes but I'd ask you, do you even have anecdotes? what real evidence do you have of these pretty massive claims you are making? I do have anecdotes; I have yet to see one couple at my university where the boyfriend is under 6 feet tall and less attractive than me facially, and I am not hideous-looking. Also, until four weeks ago I would have said…	/r/seduction	05/12/21 01:16 PM
1	Approach Us!!! Unfortunately and fortunately at the same time, I made a promise online to somebody whilst not thinking straight that I would approach one thousand women before giving up on dating. Because I have a policy of not telling lies and pride myself on being honest to a fault, I cannot go back on that. Otherwise, I would have "gone my own way" as soon as I swallowed the Blackpill. I'm on rejection number 16 so far and still going; only 984 left.	/r/seduction	05/12/21 05:05 AM
-1	Women want a man with an edge and some balls. Looks and status aren’t enough Working out and buying nice clothes can't lengthen your legs and reshape your facial bone structure. I will just look like a pushy tryhard next to the natural Chads, whom the girls will of course choose every time.	/r/seduction	05/12/21 05:02 AM
-3	Women want a man with an edge and some balls. Looks and status aren’t enough You didn't answer the question, so I'll assume the answer isn't reassuring.	/r/seduction	05/12/21 05:01 AM
-2	Women want a man with an edge and some balls. Looks and status aren’t enough So about 15 years ago; got it. You would be lucky to get half those lays in the post-Tinderpocalypse era.	/r/seduction	05/12/21 05:00 AM
0	Women want a man with an edge and some balls. Looks and status aren’t enough When did these lays happen and what country do you live in?	/r/seduction	05/12/21 04:26 AM
-2	Women want a man with an edge and some balls. Looks and status aren’t enough And what results did that game get them? How long ago was this? Things were drastically different even ten years ago. Remember that online dating affects real life in a big way by taking girls that would otherwise be looking in bars, clubs and such.	/r/seduction	05/12/21 04:25 AM
2	Approach Us!!! The only thing you did wrong was being born under six feet tall and without a 7/10 or above face.	/r/seduction	05/12/21 12:11 AM
53	Women want a man with an edge and some balls. Looks and status aren’t enough The problem is that looks and height are a threshhold only beyond which the other stuff starts to matter. Status, confidence and edginess can't boost your value if you don't have the physical attractiveness, because in the minds of most girls, you had no value to begin with.	/r/seduction	05/12/21 12:08 AM
1	How is seduction different in Europe than North America? He's clearly a Chad; the girls wouldn't even acknowledge our existence anyway.	/r/seduction	04/12/21 11:59 PM
3	How is seduction different in Europe than North America? I've heard of people who are absolute Incels in America getting attention from girls on Tinder in Europe, and not from obese harpies either. The only firsthand experience that I have is a study-abroad camp I attended when I was 17; on our day off I went out to a bar with the other people there, and girls were teasing me in a way that I now think might have had flirtatious undertones. In America, being treated like an equal human being and not a space alien was a privilege for me. That would seem…	/r/seduction	04/12/21 11:57 PM
1	How is seduction different in Europe than North America? Outside of Scandinavia, Europe seems to be significantly easier from what I’ve heard, even the wealthy Western European countries where the women aren’t looking for a green card. Women’s requirements for looks and height are not totally disconnected from reality and sub-Chads are still in the game over there.	/r/seduction	04/12/21 11:16 PM
2	High school and cold approach Have you gotten any signals of interest from girls before?	/r/seduction	04/12/21 11:11 PM
2	Approach Us!!! Did he say he was nervous? It's entirely likely that he approached confidently or was at least able to make normal conversation and the girl still walked out wordlessly like he was a threat. I've had it happen before, and I've been called a creep by a girl I wasn't even trying to hit on.	/r/seduction	04/12/21 03:48 AM
2	What are unwritten rules in dating or hookups in college? I had given up on "game" a long time ago and swallowed the Blackpill. Back when I started puberty I had genuinely accepted the fact that as a short, ugly, autistic boy, I would likely never have a girlfriend, but then reading sites about pickup artistry fooled me into thinking I had a chance, and when I found out that wasn't the case I became bitter. However, I subsequently stupidly made a promise to someone on the Internet that I would approach 1,000 women before throwing in the towel, and beca…	/r/seduction	04/12/21 03:38 AM
2	What are unwritten rules in dating or hookups in college? I went to one college party with a very confident attitude and got told off in the middle of the dance floor for "creeping out" a group of girls, whom I wasn't even talking to, let alone touching. I then realised that the other ugly males knew their place and were sitting in the Penalty Zone on the edge of the dance floor nursing their drinks instead of daring to join in the action. I say "looks are everything in 2021" because I have proof of it.	/r/seduction	04/12/21 12:16 AM
18	Approach Us!!! Anyways, if a girl ruins your reputation and you’re being a “normal” person with an innocent approach then you were better off without them anyways. Her word against mine in the MeToo era. Who's going to fucking win? I still approach, but I don't do it a lot because I feel like I'm putting everything on the line, and unlike a year ago, I am no longer badly depressed and now have things at stake. Rejection isn't what hurts; what hurts is when she thinks, for some reason, that rejecting me isn't g…	/r/seduction	03/12/21 09:37 PM
18	Approach Us!!! Yeah, like insulting them in front of everybody will somehow salvage my reputation...	/r/seduction	03/12/21 09:29 PM
2	Wait what? It was THAT easy all along?! Also I have met a lot of ugly guys with beautiful girls I ₩o₦d£₹ ho₩ tho$€ gu¥$ ma₦ag£d it…	/r/seduction	03/12/21 07:52 PM
5	What's the state of PUA community/companies in 2022? (Been out of the game for 10 years) Online dating presenting the hottest guys around to women at the touch of a button has completely ruined game, if it ever worked to begin with, and the coronavirus was the final blow. Now, physical appearance is all that matters and there is no way to cheat that if you don’t make the cut in that department.	/r/seduction	03/12/21 07:48 PM
3	Cold Approaching a 100 Women How many dates did you actually get out of those hundred, and how many of those escalated to the next level?	/r/seduction	03/12/21 07:45 PM
789	Approach Us!!! As an ugly man, for every girl like you that wants to be approached more, there are ten who would label me a creep for doing a perfectly innocent approach and potentially ruin my social reputation.	/r/seduction	03/12/21 07:44 PM
1	Wait what? It was THAT easy all along?! Just as I thought; all "game" did was stop you from sabotaging the attractiveness you already had. This simply does not work for less attractive guys, so don't claim it was "easy all along". Any guys that have never gotten female attention do not meet today's absurdly high thresholds for looks and height and game cannot change that.	/r/seduction	03/12/21 06:33 PM
-1	What are unwritten rules in dating or hookups in college? don't do what they need to do to elevate themselves to become actual men. Because the standards are related to looks and height, this isn't even physically possible unless you have five figures to spend on leg-lengthening and extreme plastic surgery, both of which involve having bones broken and reset.	/r/seduction	03/12/21 06:33 PM
-6	What are unwritten rules in dating or hookups in college? Unless you are a sports superstar, being in the top ten percent of men in terms of looks and height is absolutely non-negotiable if you want to hook up at all.	/r/seduction	03/12/21 05:10 PM
1	Wait what? It was THAT easy all along?! If you’re not lying, your success must be because you’re a Chad, and not the result of “game”. What is your height, and how would you rate your face out of 10?	/r/seduction	03/12/21 05:07 PM
1	Finally managed to kiss a girl at the club What is your height, and how would you rate your face out of 10?	/r/seduction	01/12/21 01:21 AM
2	High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hot Correlation does not equal cause - I think that a woman being clever and intellectually stimulating is far more important to a smart or otherwise high-value man than her actual career or credentials, i.e. working a low-ranking job would not be a dealbreaker. The thing is that women that check those boxes don’t tend to end up in such positions beyond temporary summer jobs and such.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/21 09:16 PM
1	Do extremely loyal men exist or are they only acting? Yes, it is often true that men are opportunistic and will take the best option available to them, putting face and figure before personality. However, in the dating market of contemporary America, you would be the best - or most likely, only - option available to at least a third, more depending on how attractive you are, of all young unmarried men. If you think based on experience that loyal men don’t exist, you have probably been dating out of your league in terms of looks and height.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/21 09:11 PM
1	Do you believe that only a small percentage of men are having the majority of sexual encounters with women? Does this signal polygamy incoming? Every guy can get laid realistically if he doesn’t care about cheating? I think that this only applies to marriage, and the guy better have a big bank account and be willing to spend it on the girl if his looks and height weren’t good enough to earn him premarital sex. Plus, this sort of relationship is obviously unsatisfying and I know a lot of Incels would rather remain Incels than “betabuxx”. Outside of marriage, I haven’t heard of people sharing a girl to get laid, because two or more low-ti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/21 09:07 PM
2	Do you believe that only a small percentage of men are having the majority of sexual encounters with women? Does this signal polygamy incoming? Where do you live? All I see is my loner, weirdo, nerdy female counterparts dating basic bro Chads who are always taller and more handsome than me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/21 09:02 PM
1	The modern west is the best sexual culture for young men. In my personal experience, there wasn't very much sex going on back in high school (it was an international school, but the Hong Kong culture definitely wore off on the expatriate kids and they behaved very differently to those in the UK/USA) but that seemed to be because people genuinely weren't interested. Now, past the age of 18, everyone I knew from there who stayed in Hong Kong seems to have gotten into some sort of relationship, but it seems that my classmates were disproportionately thin …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/21 02:58 PM
0	The narrative that young women not ‘settling down’ is the sole thing causing young men to be sexless/single is not true Yes, because my personal experiences entirely confirm this mentality. To everyone who says that personality and "game" can make a difference, I'll believe it when I finally experience that first-hand. I'm not holding my breath.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/21 02:09 PM
1	What exactly is the end game for red-pillers,mgtow, mra, etc? how do you expect any self-respecting woman to be okay with that? You mean like the women who swiped right on the Chad who claimed to be a pedophile in the famous Tinder experiment? Yeah, no. How will they know what sort of misogyny I post online? My end-game is to finally lose my virginity (having never even been on a date at age 21) and I will approach 1,000 women before giving up, because statistically, that is the best way to find the few girls who have low enough looks and height thresholds…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/21 02:07 PM
0	The narrative that young women not ‘settling down’ is the sole thing causing young men to be sexless/single is not true Feeling good about yourself can't add ten centimetres of height and reshape your facial bones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/21 01:57 PM
2	Western in-group vs Foreign out-group I think that the women who shame foreign women dating American men (I assume this is the in-group you mean) bring up the idea of the men being meal tickets because they don’t understand that we have one of the worst dating markets in the world (due to their resulting inflated SMV only benefitting them) and the excuse of money simply isn’t needed in order to explain why our men do better abroad. I’ve heard multiple anecdotes of guys who were basically Incels here getting lots of attention from wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/21 01:35 PM
1	How do you explain the apparent lack of women? Your last point is so true. We don’t even have a physical shortage of women here in America, yet my dating prospects as a low-tier man look no different from those of a peasant in China, where female infanticide is a big problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/21 01:26 PM
2	The modern west is the best sexual culture for young men. It is weird that you mention the Nordic countries, because whilst they may have an open attitude towards sexuality, Scandinavia is one of the worst “Incel Hells” in the world where young men find it the hardest to actually fill their sexual needs due to how competitive the dating market is and how high women’s standards are - in more conservative countries, there is less openness about pornography and such, but at least the vast majority of men can expect to get married and therefore have sex in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/21 01:19 PM
1	What’s the fastest way to loose your virginity What country do you live in? Are you an adult virgin because you missed chances with girls, or have you gotten no interest at all?	/r/seduction	05/11/21 03:35 AM
4	What do sexually unsuccessful people want/expect from others when they air their grievances? When I complain about my total lack of success (as a guy of average looks and height), my goal is to turn other low-value men away from porn and simping and make them take stock of their own situation. Hopefully, they will subsequently realise that no, it shouldn’t be this bad, and they likely would have had a girlfriend just 15 years ago but are now cut out of the dating market by very recent standards escalation. I honestly don’t think there’s any way we can return to the pre-Tinder paradigm, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/21 03:31 AM
2	Is there really a "sex recession"? The obesity epidemic is a chiefly American problem; in much of Europe and almost all of Asia, merely being thin doesn’t make a girl very high value.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/21 05:18 PM
3	Is this low birth rate something that should be concerning? Isn't it hilarious how I can't really respond to a nonsensical sentence?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/21 12:42 PM
1	Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to) get better at banging 3-4s This implies you have to be on the sexual market to begin with and have non-negligible SMV. What really surprises me is that I haven't even missed any opportunities with girls - not one single girl has given me an indication of interest in real life. Also, I can only completely get rid of my standards when a girl is seeking easy sex, and even the lowest-tier girls can do better than me for casual hookups; I cannot pretend to be romantically attracted to some obese harp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/21 02:32 PM
2	Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to) Pro-Tip: Women will date a Chad who claims to be a literal pedophile, as the famous Tinder experiment showed. This is nonsense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/21 02:28 PM
3	Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to) I'm impressed that you have the success you claim at that height, but it sounds like you have a Chad face, taking into account the internet humility bias. A common theme is that guys who say "Game works!" are above-average in looks, and I have yet to see a successful pickup artist who looks as bad as I do. It seems that all "game" does is stop people from sabotaging the attractiveness that they already have through antisocial and offputting behaviors, and not make them any more attractive to wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/21 12:37 AM
3	Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to) What height are you, and how would you rate your face out of 10?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/21 10:35 PM
6	Is this low birth rate something that should be concerning? I’m concerned that it isn’t even lower. The population of Earth ideally needs to drop below one billion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/21 09:58 PM
5	Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to) Yeah, I know full well how to become more attractive. The problem is that I don’t have the thousands of dollars of cash needed to get double-bone-break leg lengthening and plastic surgery. “Game” doesn’t work now that online dating has given women a buffet of Chads to choose from, if it ever did to begin with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/21 09:56 PM
2	What is the perfect ratio of males to females? Because a man’s sex drive is so much higher than a woman’s, there would indeed need to be an extreme gender imbalance (likely on the order of 6 or more women to one man) before high-tier men are so sexually worn out that women start to actively approach guys who are currently incels. However, in the current dating market, the top-tier Chads already have nearly infinite SMV and are saturated with opportunities to get sex, meaning that a small increase in the number of women for every man should p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/21 04:32 PM
1	What is the perfect ratio of males to females? The natural sex ratio is about 105 men for every 100 women, but because men have serious congenital disorders and exclusive homosexual attraction at a higher rate than women, in a hypothetical perfect dating market where everyone dated their looksmatch, the bottom few percent of men left out due to gender ratios would likely consist of few or no relatively healthy and well-adjusted males.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/21 04:25 PM
1	Seduction and being short - my personal experience and advice How am I acting as if I don't know what confirmation bias is? And I know full well now that girls who look at me like a space alien should be kicked to the curb; the girl that was apparently flirting with me whom I unsuccessfully asked out three times was in high school.	/r/seduction	20/10/21 03:37 PM
1	[deleted by user] Because this is the best a large proportion of American men (27 percent at the very least) can do in a country where the rise of online dating and women getting nearly infinite attention has caused insane inflation of looks and height standards, and the Religious Right will never allow prostitution to be legalised.	/r/seduction	20/10/21 03:34 PM
1	Seduction and being short - my personal experience and advice Who are you to say so? And what is your height, and how would you rate your face on a scale of one to ten? I have seriously racked my brains thinking of times girls have shown interest in me and couldn't find one single time, except for this one instance where a girl seemed to be obviously flirting with me (to the point of other guys commenting on it), but I asked her out three different times and she made an excuse each time, so she was just messing with me.	/r/seduction	20/10/21 03:25 PM
2	[Help] I'm 29 and never had a woman consider me attractive before. What country do you live in? If it’s America, your options are to save up enough money for leg-lengthening surgery and craniofacial osteotomy, or try dating abroad. If you have done self-improvement to the extent you imply, and aren’t hideously ugly or a dwarf, it might not only be posssible, but easy to get a girlfriend there despite being totally out of luck in the USA, as our dating market is one of the worst in the world with insanely high looks and height thresholds.	/r/seduction	20/10/21 03:08 PM
1	Seduction and being short - my personal experience and advice I know what that is and have already accounted for it. I know what girls’ signals of interest look like from reading here, and can never say I’ve seen one IRL.	/r/seduction	20/10/21 02:58 PM
2	VR Porn - "Some experts believe it makes sex so satisfying, men who find it hard to connect with women in real life, might give up completely and happily settle for VR porn as a substitute for real life experiences." It depends on the person. The people that are "opting" out of the dating market are likely starting from square zero and do not have the looks, height and status to be even close to the threshhold required to get a girlfriend as they currently are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/21 08:31 PM
2	VR Porn - "Some experts believe it makes sex so satisfying, men who find it hard to connect with women in real life, might give up completely and happily settle for VR porn as a substitute for real life experiences." If the only way you could get sex was to spend virtually every hour of your spare time on self-improvement and/or taking extra work hours to earn more, for six months to well over a year, and at the end of that process the best you could get was a very fat girl with a bad personality who STILL doesn't see you as a prize and wants to jump ship, would you do it? Doesn't sound like much of a fair choice to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/21 08:24 PM
1	VR Porn - "Some experts believe it makes sex so satisfying, men who find it hard to connect with women in real life, might give up completely and happily settle for VR porn as a substitute for real life experiences." I think a lot of those Japanese men aren’t “truecels” who have no hope of getting a girl, but would need to make such a Herculean effort to get a girl of such a low value that they don’t deem it worthwhile.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/21 03:55 PM
1	How does this Sub apply to people with autism? Good for you; keep on scaring people. Society treats us like literal zoo animals and then acts surprised when we decide we'd rather be the lion than the squirrel.	/r/seduction	14/10/21 01:19 AM
2	VR Porn - "Some experts believe it makes sex so satisfying, men who find it hard to connect with women in real life, might give up completely and happily settle for VR porn as a substitute for real life experiences." Japanese men "don't really seem too pressed over not having someone in their life" partially due to cultural reasons (grinning and bearing it is the order of the day and complaining is frowned upon) and partially because Japan went straight from a pre-medieval dating market dynamic to a high-tech one at the end of the 20th century, without the thousand-plus years of Christian monogamy that was sandwiched in between those two paradigms in the western world; western men grew up being told that mar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/21 12:08 AM
20	VR Porn - "Some experts believe it makes sex so satisfying, men who find it hard to connect with women in real life, might give up completely and happily settle for VR porn as a substitute for real life experiences." checking out of the dating scene Not checking out so much as getting locked out. You had to be on the dating market in the first place to "check out".	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/21 11:58 PM
2	How does this Sub apply to people with autism? In that case, you do have potential and the advice on this subreddit will be useful. If you hadn't gotten signals of interest I would have suggested surgery or going abroad to a different country with a better dating market before putting any game into practice. I also have Aspergers, but I don't have any advice for you because I'm not attractive enough to "make the cut" and have never had a girl give me a signal of interest before.	/r/seduction	13/10/21 11:53 PM
4	How does this Sub apply to people with autism? I can totally believe his story. Honestly, relationship success as an aspie is predicated solely on being tall and attractive enough that your physical attraction outweighs the girl's discomfort. Have any girls even flirted with you or given you signals of interest?	/r/seduction	13/10/21 02:54 PM
1	Watching Spring Break Videos: Maybe a few things have changed... I’ve heard multiple stories of dateless adult virgin men starting a steroid cycle just to get their FIRST taste of romantic success, and one of a man who flew to Switzerland and spent over 50,000 dollars on surgery that involved breaking and resetting multiple face and leg bones to do the same. If that doesn’t tell you that our dating market is completely screwed, I don’t know what will.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/21 12:44 AM
5	Most guys aren't really trying that hard Okay, that's good to hear, but could you have gotten either of them without taking steroids? That is something I've decided isn't worth it, and I'd rather remain a virgin if that is really what it takes for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/21 06:05 PM
12	Most guys aren't really trying that hard You've hit the nail on the head. u/Aliens90 never mentioned what these women he's dated are like; are they close to his own value or not? If I have to develop a highly masculine, outgoing personality and a top 10 percent physique to get a girlfriend, I am going to demand that she has a sweet, feminine personality and a slim figure. If all I can get are girls that have bigger waists and less interesting personalities than I ever did before I worked my ass off over months or years of self-improvem…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/21 05:43 PM
2	In last two years, I spent more than $25000 on hookers. That’s what the politically correct mainstream media wants you to think. In reality, the “herbivore men” are no different from American Incels; they start finding ways to cope after trying, failing and realising that they don’t make the cut and probably never will. Also, virtually any man here can escape our modern sexlessness crisis by traveling to a poor country and luring a destitute girl into marriage with the promise of three square meals a day and a roof over her head, but if there’s no pr…	/r/seduction	07/10/21 11:21 AM
1	[deleted by user] And what would your height and facial attractiveness happen to be like?	/r/seduction	06/10/21 10:07 PM
1	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? I will almost certainly not approach 1,000 in that time, but I will reply with the results I do get. !RemindMe 30 days	/r/seduction	06/10/21 05:44 PM
1	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? When did I say I was using this as excuse to not approach? What I said was that I am not expecting to have the same level of success as you, per unit of effort put in. If I go a day without approaching 30 women that's my own choice and I am not making any excuses to justify it.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 05:42 PM
1	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? Yes, I know I theoretically could. But how tall and attractive are you? If you don’t respond I will assume you are a Chad and that this, not your game, is the reason for your success, therefore I have little reason to hope to replicate it.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 05:34 PM
5	In last two years, I spent more than $25000 on hookers. The UAE is a rich Islamic country and Japan is one of the worst Incel Hells in the world with absurdly high female standards; those two are definitely to be avoided. Vietnamese women are conservative, but if you are willing to play the “long game” and pursuing marriage, they might be worthwhile. Hungary, the Czech Republic and South Korea are developed countries that require you to have some level of looks and height, but are still easier than America from what I understand.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 05:33 PM
1	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? So over 1,000 lays from 10,000 approaches? That’s a TEN PERCENT CONVERSION RATE. Do you realise how insanely good that is? This all but confirms that you are a Chad, so your advice will not work for me.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 05:29 PM
1	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? Yeah, I know. That’s why it’s hilarious.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 05:26 PM
1	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? Hilarious.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 05:24 PM
2	[deleted by user] So, by being a six-foot-plus handsome Chad? Are you implying that a guy who never gets any interest elsewhere won’t find it easier in Vegas?	/r/seduction	06/10/21 05:23 PM
1	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? Are you saying I should or shouldn’t finish all 1000 approaches in college? And I haven’t approached 600, I’ve approached only 13 so far.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 05:20 PM
2	In last two years, I spent more than $25000 on hookers. How short? And you would need to learn the local language if you are going to live there long-term, not so much pursue a mail-order bride.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 05:19 PM
1	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? I am not giving up until I have asked out 1,000 women. I am just giving myself multiple years to reach this goal rather than speedrunning it.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 04:54 PM
1	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? Dude, I have a life outside of trying to get laid and can’t afford to ruin it. I am already struggling to justify approaching again after one girl whom I wasn’t even trying to hit on was creeped out by me. And if I approach a girl whom I know full well has a next to zero chance of wanting me back, I am just giving her free validation. What have modern women done to deserve that?	/r/seduction	06/10/21 04:51 PM
1	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? Bad bot	/r/seduction	06/10/21 04:45 PM
0	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? Approach off-campus? Where the hell am I supposed to find single women of my own age? The times I’ve been off-campus I haven’t even SEEN twenty of those girls that I could have approached. To be clear, I’m not completely giving up until I have approached one thousand women, but twenty a day is only going to get me into trouble. Again, what is your height, and what does your face look like? This is the most important part of the equation.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 04:45 PM
2	In last two years, I spent more than $25000 on hookers. Apart from conservative nations without a casual dating culture (such as Pakistan), the only places that arguably have a dating market as bad as or worse than America are Canada, Japan and Scandinavia. Anywhere else should be easier.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 04:42 PM
0	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? Have YOU ever asked out twenty or more girls in one day? And did you even address the problem that doing so will give me a bad reputation on my college campus? Making time is no issue, but what you suggest is spam-approaching which doesn’t seem like a recipe for success. It takes time to flirt with the girl before asking her out.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 04:39 PM
57	In last two years, I spent more than $25000 on hookers. Not just him. At least two thirds of men who are lonely, sexless adult virgins in America would probably be considered high-value men in many other countries. Hell, some of them only need to go as far as Western Europe, not even a poor country, in order to succeed because our dating market sucks that badly.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 12:02 PM
4	Why is the “height requirement” such a common/widespread preference? Well, what are you going to say if I come back here after approaching a hundred or more women and am still a dateless adult virgin? Approach ten thousand? At some point it’s time to call it quits and take the loss.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 11:59 AM
2	Why is the “height requirement” such a common/widespread preference? I cannot grow three inches and reshape my facial bone structure. Going abroad to a country with a non-fucked dating market is probably my best hope.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 11:33 AM
2	Why is the “height requirement” such a common/widespread preference? I am not lying about what I saw. I never said that a guy under 6ft can’t theoretically get a girlfriend here, but what I have seen does not make me confident about my chances. Because I have creeped out a girl whom I wasn’t even trying to hit on, I realised I am too ugly and short to use cold approach and the first 13 approaches that went relatively well were just a fluke.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 11:31 AM
4	Why is the “height requirement” such a common/widespread preference? It means that this ONE guy under six feet who appeared to have a girlfriend may not have even had a girlfriend. All I am saying is that women have completely ridiculous standards nowadays and are content to share the top-tier men, loyalty be damned, and leave the rest of us in the dust.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 11:20 AM
2	Why is the “height requirement” such a common/widespread preference? Bad bot	/r/seduction	06/10/21 11:16 AM
3	Why is the “height requirement” such a common/widespread preference? I am 180cm and in one year of college, I’ve seen ONE couple on campus with a boyfriend shorter than me, and for all I know the girl could have just been a close friend. The 6 feet minimum requirement is very real and very brutal.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 11:15 AM
1	Why is the “height requirement” such a common/widespread preference? Go abroad to where women still have reasonable standards. America is fucked.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 11:13 AM
0	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? Twenty girls in one day? You must be kidding me; I have a life. And I am totally invisible to girls and any approach is just intruding into their life, which probably already features a Chad boyfriend, and they won’t like that. Because I’m short and ugly, they will see it as creepy, and on a college campus the consequences of getting a bad reputation or even reported to security could be severe. I have already creeped out one girl that I wasn’t even trying to hit on, so that’s probably the end o…	/r/seduction	06/10/21 11:11 AM
3	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? How much commission are you being paid to say this? Either that, or those men are total Chads with a face to make up for the lack of height. That said, I am still trying and due to a promise I made a while back, I cannot completely give up on dating until I’ve asked out one thousand women.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 02:17 AM
3	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? DM me a picture and state your height if you insist this is true. Every guy I’ve seen who says “GAME WORKS FOR EVERYONE” is objectively attractive and was underrating himself.	/r/seduction	06/10/21 02:05 AM
3	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? “Game” is cope, and looks and height are all that matters; my personal experiences seem to totally confirm this. I personally have given up and swallowed the Blackpill, because I am a 21-year-old kissless dateless virgin and my patience has ran out. I’m not that surprised that this is the case because I’ve only ever asked out 13 women, but what really weighs on me and made me lose hope in the end is the fact that not ONE single girl has ever given me a signal of interest, meaning I am not even o…	/r/seduction	06/10/21 01:57 AM
3	Apart from paying for the services of an escort, what's a good plan of action for an average looking guy to lose his virginity? Very few men who are of interest to women are sexless due to being distracted by video games. Men cope with stuff like that after they find out that they stand no chance on the modern dating market. And being afraid of approaching women is a legitimate fear nowadays in environments like college campuses when many women have no qualms about escalating anything they see as creepy to authorities or ruining a man’s reputation rather than giving him the benefit of the doubt and trusting him to move o…	/r/seduction	06/10/21 01:43 AM
1	"You're an incel 'cause you're an obese neckbeard." Meanwhile at the incel meetup: No, the opposite; I said I think the percentage of sexless unmarried young men has increased from 27% to at least 50%.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/21 12:53 AM
2	To all men in this subreddit Of course; still better than most bluepilled women who doublespeak in real life AND virtue-signal on the Internet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/21 11:40 PM
1	"You're an incel 'cause you're an obese neckbeard." Meanwhile at the incel meetup: I'm talking about people who were teenagers in the early 2000s, not today.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/21 04:21 PM
1	Seduction and being short - my personal experience and advice I don't doubt it at all, but I was saying it's not common for women to settle for short guys at least in my area; those images would by nature be handpicked, meaning that women who aren't so choosy about height aren't necessarily common enough for me to realistically meet one.	/r/seduction	04/10/21 02:15 AM
1	Seduction and being short - my personal experience and advice Once again, I’ll believe it when I experience it firsthand. I ain’t holding my breath.	/r/seduction	04/10/21 01:59 AM
3	"You're an incel 'cause you're an obese neckbeard." Meanwhile at the incel meetup: You can’t categorise women like this much of the time. The same “traditional” girl who wears nice dresses and puts on a whole song and dance for her beta-provider LTR prospect about how she is worth waiting for started sucking Chad off within two minutes of meeting him at a college party.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/21 01:56 AM
1	Seduction and being short - my personal experience and advice My height obviously plays a role, but the latter wouldn’t be untrue anywhere else in the USA; what the actual average height is doesn’t matter one bit when lots of girls demand a higher “average”. If I am traveling hundreds of kilometres to “ascend”, I won’t go elsewhere in Americuck; I will do the whole enchilada and go someplace like Eastern Europe where the dating market isn’t gigascrewed and average men still make the cut.	/r/seduction	04/10/21 01:54 AM
1	Seduction and being short - my personal experience and advice I am not intimidated by the tall men; I am just losing patience at the sheer lack of dating success I have had.	/r/seduction	04/10/21 01:26 AM
1	Seduction and being short - my personal experience and advice That's the second time today that someone suggested moving a long way away from my current area, all so that I can go on my first date as an adult. What a brilliant dating market we have...	/r/seduction	04/10/21 01:01 AM
1	Seduction and being short - my personal experience and advice Okay, I will pay more attention to that. For what it's worth, I did see two guys shorter than me who said they had casual sex, but this could easily just be bluffing. Don't guess the university, but it is in one of the tallest and whitest states in the country and has a lot of Chads.	/r/seduction	04/10/21 12:47 AM
1	Higher SMP gini coefficient correlated with rise in rape. See the graph spike in 2012? You know what came out in 2012? Tinder. But are we happier, all things considered?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/21 12:41 AM
1	Seduction and being short - my personal experience and advice I won't say which one, but the average height is probably 182 to 185cm. There are plenty of guys shorter than me, though, and you'd think I would have seen more than one couple with a boyfriend shorter than 6ft by now.	/r/seduction	04/10/21 12:40 AM
1	"You're an incel 'cause you're an obese neckbeard." Meanwhile at the incel meetup: If you don't mind me asking, have you had sex at all in America since the early 2010s? If not, that just reinforces how much dating apps have ruined the market. I also once saw an American guy on Reddit who had a double-digit lay count, including with some pretty hot girls, but only outside of the USA and not for lack of trying back home. He could have been making that up, but I have absolutely no reason to doubt the veracity of his story based on my own experience (or lack thereof). Anyway, I h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/21 12:36 AM
1	Seduction and being short - my personal experience and advice I'd say I take note of couples more than most people because of my interest in relationship dynamics, and I am really racking my brains to find a single example of a guy shorter than me in a relationship. One other guy I met commented on the apparent six-foot minimum requirement at my university too, so I'm not the only one who noticed girls' high standards with regards to height. I have not given up yet, though, and will believe what you say when I see some success firsthand.	/r/seduction	04/10/21 12:33 AM
1	Seduction and being short - my personal experience and advice No, it's almost entirely white.	/r/seduction	04/10/21 12:28 AM
1	"You're an incel 'cause you're an obese neckbeard." Meanwhile at the incel meetup: Have you considered moving abroad after college? Well ain't that hilarious? Somebody as objectively average as me flying halfway across the globe just to go on my first ever date as an adult? CLOWN WORLD. But yes, my family lives in Korea currently and might be moving to Russia. I was suffering from depression and under pandemic rules when I visited Korea, but from the way the girls there treated me like equals and gave me (platonic) attention rather than seeing me as completely invisible, I mig…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/21 11:46 PM
0	"You're an incel 'cause you're an obese neckbeard." Meanwhile at the incel meetup: were you expecting something different? To be honest, yes, I was. I knew I wasn't going to become a Chad when I set foot on campus like in the movies, but I DID think the dating market would be easier than in my small boarding high school, which was 60% male - I was wrong on that count; it's noticeably worse. Instead I'm still a 21-year-old kissless dateless virgin and don't see that changing any time soon, despite being average height and having a face that has been rated from slightly below av…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/21 11:07 PM
1	Higher SMP gini coefficient correlated with rise in rape. See the graph spike in 2012? You know what came out in 2012? Tinder. Yes, civilized enough that we strip felons of all rights after they’ve supposedly finished their sentence in a supposedly rehabilitative prison environment and are condemned to working in fast food for the rest of their lives, because the court ain’t going to hear one iota about how they’ve genuinely changed their ways and wouldn’t hurt a fly now. I would happily send our judicial system back to the bullwhip and breaking wheel if we could give felons all of their rights back and seal their crimi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/21 10:37 PM
2	Simple way to evaluate if men's or women's physical preferences are more unrealistic: What would be required to reach them for the majority of people? Sure you can, in a society that expects women to settle down and commit with an average but comfortably well-off man, overriding her biological urge to sleep with Chads regardless of wealth or personality. That is the key, and that is no longer a description of modern American society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/21 10:32 PM
0	"You're an incel 'cause you're an obese neckbeard." Meanwhile at the incel meetup: I have attended university in America for over a year now, and out of all the couples I saw on campus, ONE of them had a boyfriend shorter than me. ONE. And I’m 180cm (5’11”), which is technically average height for a young white man in my part of the country.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/21 10:25 PM
1	"You're an incel 'cause you're an obese neckbeard." Meanwhile at the incel meetup: And that 1/3rd figure is probably highly outdated and quite skewed, because it was determined in the year 2016 and the cohort sampled included unmarried men up to 30 years old. If you were 30 years old in 2016 you turned 18 in 2004 and had several years of teenage dating before that, so you entered the market long before cultural trends like TikTok and swipe apps came onto the scene. If you were to repeat the survey post-pandemic with only 21 to 25-year-old men, I would be surprised if less than…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/21 10:21 PM
7	"You're an incel 'cause you're an obese neckbeard." Meanwhile at the incel meetup: I don’t think it’s that bad yet for regular and neurotypical guys who have the confidence to approach women (which increasingly few do). I say this as someone who has talked to many people in the Incel community; many of the guys that showed their faces were average or even hot, but all of them either had some kind of social problem that they didn’t see as a problem (like never approaching any girls) or were very picky and turned down matches with girls that I would go for in a heartbeat. I have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/21 10:08 PM
7	To all men in this subreddit I find the so-called “bad apples” quite refreshing, to be honest. If you are an FDS acolyte who sees nothing wrong with making a high-value man jump through all sorts of hoops and wait three months for sex whilst you get railed by Chad on the side, in my mind it is better to be open about that than pretend to be chaste for religious reasons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/21 09:52 PM
1	just about as funny as the other things posted here. also slightly true in a way They are, from New England northwards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/21 09:47 PM
3	"You're an incel 'cause you're an obese neckbeard." Meanwhile at the incel meetup: Yeah, but would lower-tier girls have even given him a chance? The only one out of ten face woman I’ve ever met was married to a 6.5/10 man. An outlier, yes, but it proves that even the lowest of girls can often do better than someone like Elliot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/21 07:21 PM
2	Which group was the biggest winner and biggest loser when dating switched to online? That’s what happened with low-tier men in the 20th century, but women now have no trouble earning their keep, are increasingly child free and have no qualms about staying single or continuing to hook up into their 40s if they can’t bag a top-tier male.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/21 11:14 PM
2	Which group was the biggest winner and biggest loser when dating switched to online? Because they aren’t choosing not to get into relationships, of course; they’re single because no woman gives them the time of day. The average Incel would bend over backwards for any old harpy, let alone a woman actually worth her salt.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/21 11:24 AM
1	Seduction and being short - my personal experience and advice Keep in mind that a LOT of things have changed since you left the dating market ten years ago, and even more since you were in your early twenties, with regards to online dating, and it has sent standards way up. At my university in the USA, which I’ve attended for one academic year now, I’ve seen ONE couple with a man shorter than me - and I’m 180cm. I’ve also never had a single girl flirt with me or give me signs of interest in real life, despite not being considered very ugly.	/r/seduction	29/09/21 11:30 AM
1	How do you rank yourself in terms of attractiveness? Definitely ugly, but at the same time, definitely not so ugly that most people wouldn’t be very surprised if I showed them a picture of me and told them I was a 21-year-old kissless dateless virgin who has never even gotten signals of interest in real life.	/r/seduction	29/09/21 11:02 AM
1	Would you rather stay lonely or date somebody who doesn’t necessarily pass all your dealbreakers? I am trying - I will not give up on dating until I have approached one thousand women - but this is because I stupidly made this promise to some other people, and can't revoke it now because I am a pathological truth-teller and pride myself on never lying. Otherwise, I'd be MGTOW already and finding ways to just cope with the loneliness. I've still only asked out 13 girls so far (not even a date to show for it), so I've got a ways to go. The issue with standards is that I just can't completely d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/21 08:41 PM
2	Would you rather stay lonely or date somebody who doesn’t necessarily pass all your dealbreakers? And autists who are ALSO short and ugly don’t even get that privilege - if dating was a game, mine just crashes to desktop before the start screen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/21 08:31 PM
9	Should men chase women? I think a proportion of women are more submissive when it comes to relationships and don’t like to do any chasing or to take the next step (at least I’ve spoken to one that was like this), so I’m prepared to chase and escalate quite far. The key is that the girl still needs to do her part by making the juice worth the squeeze and showing that she appreciated what I did on some romantic or sexual level; if she responds like a female friend or is utterly deferential (making excuses without suggest…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/21 08:24 PM
3	Average men in long term relationships critiquing people who are single. Men also usually have different standards for one-night-stands and LTRs. I know I am no exception; I only have “no standards” if a girl was hypothetically offering me easy sex. If I need to bait her with commitment for weeks, months or years first I could not bring myself to lie about being romantically attracted to a revolting obese girl with an incompatible personality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/21 07:53 PM
8	Either die a virgin or live long enough to be labeled a predator Another ridiculous thing is how the only acceptable form of male sexual success is the success which just happens, as a result of the seamless fusion of attractive traits that the man was either born with or (for social skills) learned through osmosis without thinking twice as a young teenager, and any conscious effort put towards improving one’s success in the dating market is seen as an aberration. Are you born with autism and didn’t learn those social skills naturally? “Sorry boyo, here are s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/21 11:05 PM
16	Women tend to downplay their dating advantage And back in the old days, women’s advantages in the dating market were further obscured by the fact that plain or underprivileged women would be expected to settle for their low-value male counterpart whether they liked it or not, keeping him happy (at least in many cases) when he was young and horny and saving the agony of marital sexlessness, nagging, cheating and possible divorce for later, by which time many men didn’t suffer all that much due to their sexual urges having cooled and them hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/21 10:26 PM
0	Even though women are valued more for their looks in society, being ugly affects your dating prospects more as a man than a woman Are you sure that is caused by gender ratio moreso than any cultural differences? I thought that outside of specific sausagefests like Frisco, the gender ratio has been roughly even since the closing of the Wild West era.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/21 11:15 PM
10	We are living in a sexual dystopia Are most of these porn-using men really not going after girls because porn distracts them, or are they trying to cope with sexual frustration because they know full well where they stand and are basically locked out of the modern dating market due to standards escalation? And this includes not only the “Truecels” but also the men who could get a girl way below their own value after a year or more of hard work and don’t consider it worth it at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/21 11:26 PM
1	Men DO chase "all types of women" it's just people(who won't be named) who make the assumption that these women would even like them back when they do not…. Then why do Chads get bombarded with matches on Tinder whilst many guys get literally none? And I’m not just talking about losers here; I have heard of several objectively average men using Tinder for a year or more without a match. I know that Chad will always win, but if women had preferences that were narrow but not alike, these guys would get at least a few right swipes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/21 10:46 PM
1	At what point in human history was sex frequency per capita the highest? Is it today? Girls seem or outright asexual around you and me, yes. When Chad comes into the room, it may as well be the free-loving 60s again. You have a point about low confidence among men and them not approaching women, but we know female standards are very high now as well; how many of them would get laid even if they suddenly did gain a lot of confidence? Not very many, I’m afraid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/21 12:28 AM
1	What will be the effects of the present dating market 10 years from now? By that I mean they’ve seen things which would disprove the “bluepill narrative”, but not necessarily noticed it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/21 10:11 PM
1	At what point in human history was sex frequency per capita the highest? Is it today? I’m guessing my GF isn’t/wouldn’t be good enough for you. My only two standards are “don’t be so revolting that I can’t physically get hard, because I’m not forcing it in flaccid” and “be female”… and that second one is even negotiable. Still, I am a dateless adult virgin who has not gotten a tiny bit of attention from a girl, and have not turned down any opportunities to have sex in spite of my nonexistent requirements. I am far from the only guy in this situation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/21 09:56 PM
2	At what point in human history was sex frequency per capita the highest? Is it today? Yeah, sure, there are guys who have the mistaken idea that women should flock to any average guy and don’t take action… but there are also guys who hit the gym, learn Redpilled seduction techniques, put themselves out there as much as possible and are still adult virgins. There was a guy I spoke to online who approached over TWO HUNDRED women, some of whom looked like ogres, and got rejected by every single one of them. How do you explain that other than female standards being at an all-time hig…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/21 09:16 PM
–	Is obesity more of a problem for male attractiveness than for female? I have been thinking this for a while and my take on it is that it shows just how fucking bad our hypergamy problem has gotten. Think about it; since far more men are willing to date an overweight woman than the other way around, any thin man with passable looks and a willingness to date bigger girls should not only not be an adult virgin, but have a very easy time getting girls. Instead, the USA is one of the worst Incel Hells in the world and many fit men complain about even the fat girls not …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/21 09:10 PM
1	What will be the effects of the present dating market 10 years from now? it’s almost insulting to assume most Russian women are so desperate to settle for any guy from abroad even if he’s a broke ugly loser. But what if he was a high-value man instead? You’ve been living under a rock if you think men who date abroad are all broke ugly losers; American women are so choosy that a significant proportion of men they reject wholesale and who end up as Incels would be desirable almost anywhere else in the world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/21 09:05 PM
2	What will be the effects of the present dating market 10 years from now? Virtually every mass shooter in the USA was an Incel, even though few have identified with that label. Dylann Roof, for instance, said some nonsense about a “race war” as justification, but he was an adult dateless virgin, and the Columbine Shooters were also treated like zoo animals at their school. The same goes for the vast majority of those who embrace radical political views, whether they be Islamic or Alt-Right - they are just a front for anger at basic needs not being met. There would hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/21 08:53 PM
1	What will be the effects of the present dating market 10 years from now? You think women will do anything but continue to share the top 20 percent of men? The post-COVID hedonism isn’t for us.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/21 08:44 PM
1	What will be the effects of the present dating market 10 years from now? Most of Gen Z (barring the Chads) has been Blackpilled to some extent; whether or not you choose to stop smoking copium and actually take the Blackpill is a different matter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/21 08:41 PM
3	The cost of a beautiful woman When I don’t have a real chance at getting either woman, why the heck not follow the hottest ones?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/21 02:05 AM
2	Men should have a hoe phase before committing to anyone. I really haven’t gotten any attention except from one underaged girl, one girl online who lived over a thousand kilometres away, and one girl who was obviously just messing with me as she got out of a date with excuses three times when I asked her out; I don’t count these as I could not take things to the next level for various reasons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/21 03:52 AM
2	Men should have a hoe phase before committing to anyone. Cause and effect. Lazy it may be, but can you really blame men who have checked out of society for doing so when they will never realistically be able to afford a house, car, wife or anything else men traditionally saved money for? Western society is decadent beyond belief.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/21 02:35 AM
3	Men should have a hoe phase before committing to anyone. “Lift, dress well, become the best version of yourself…” …and completely reshape your facial bone structure and add ten centimetres to your height. You missed that part. You are telling me, somebody who has never gotten positive attention or flirtation from any girl, that having casual sex with a bunch of women is not only possible but good? Hell no, men find out pretty goddamn quickly where they stand in the sexual hierarchy; I know my place and it isn’t a good one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/21 02:30 AM
3	How can women get a man to commit to her? Easy - just stop being so choosy about looks and height and date a guy who is your looksmatch, rather than a Chad wanting to have casual sex in between LTRs with Stacies. So many men are willing to bend over backwards for a woman that she doesn’t even need to try to treat him well or add value of her own to the relationship if she dates within her league.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/21 02:22 AM
2	Women do think physical attractiveness is important. It's just not impossibly high standards. Just don't be a neckbeard. I define “neckbeard status” as having a nerdy personality that actively repels women or serious social interaction issues in addition to non-Chad looks. An average to below average fat guy with a literal neckbeard isn’t “a neckbeard” if he is socially well-adjusted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/21 10:07 PM
–	Its easier for women to settle than men If only it was that fair in the end. “Their men will leave” for whom? They ain’t got no options!	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/21 08:58 PM
–	How is playing video games and watching porn holding modern men back? This just reinforces my theory of choosing on looks alone. Average guys take what they can get, including social media addicts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/21 05:02 PM
–	Its easier for women to settle than men Women just want men to pay for them Of course I’ll pay the full bill on a date and would financially support a woman who decides to be a stay-at-home housewife. But she shouldn’t expect lobsters and caviar on a date or to return to a mansion afterwards. Also, you’ve been living under a rock if you haven’t heard about, at least on the Internet, some girl financially supporting her weed-huffing loser boyfriend with Chad looks. (I’m not bitter that I can’t get this myself; I wouldn’t want to smoke …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/21 04:56 PM
–	Its easier for women to settle than men I already do “have money”, albeit in the form of assets, and could be splashing cash on girls right now if I wanted to, but I’m continuing to save and invest it all and I don’t intend to act any differently once I have more liquid cash from job income. “Just wait until you get some money” implies that you also think that I’ll never be able to experience the ideal relationship dynamic due to lack of looks and height; a girl who only wants me for money is betabuxxing, and I want no part in that. I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/21 04:20 PM
–	Its easier for women to settle than men Nothing I’ve seen or experienced personally would suggest this is true; in my mind women are the gatekeepers to both sex and relationships and men struggle exponentially more to get either. And also, you’re talking about this like all men were even given the CHANCE to settle for a plain girl and are instead chasing Stacies in vain - I haven’t gotten female attention once in my entire life, not even from a very low-tier girl. I think a lot of average and below guys don’t have hard requirements or…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/21 02:32 PM
–	How is playing video games and watching porn holding modern men back? And the Venn diagram of “gamer dudes who obliviously choose video games over their living breathing girlfriend when she’s right there in the room” and Chads… I’m thinking that’s pretty much a circle. Do you know how thrilled any guy who isn’t inundated with options, especially a gamer, would be to have a girlfriend these days?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/21 02:17 PM
–	How is playing video games and watching porn holding modern men back? No, not in the adult sense; by “lives put together” I meant the social skills needed to not ignore your girlfriend when she’s right there on the bed and choose video games over her… the ungrateful sods…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/21 02:12 PM
–	How is playing video games and watching porn holding modern men back? Chad status is based on looks and height alone, although fat Chads aren’t really Chads. Going back to my original question, what did these guys you were complaining about actually look like and how tall were they?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/21 02:07 PM
–	How is playing video games and watching porn holding modern men back? Firstly, I don’t think that’s always true. Secondly, if you think it is, stop for a minute and consider what that means - if gamers are disproportionately ugly, that would indicate that many heavy gamers are that way because they are coping with sexual frustration and a society that has no real place for them in terms of economic opportunity, not the other way around i.e. men not flirting with girls or working hard on their lives because they are distracted by games.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/21 02:05 PM
–	How is playing video games and watching porn holding modern men back? I don’t want to sound hateful, but if what you described is really a “typical high school experience”, like so many other complaints I hear from girls, it sounds an awful lot like they were choosing partners on looks and height alone and had to find out the hard way that the men with Chad looks AND their lives put together were out of their league.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/21 01:51 PM
–	How is playing video games and watching porn holding modern men back? I’d say that’s fine as long as she doesn’t use it herself. And I’d have less sympathy for a girl who mandated that if she didn’t sleep with her boyfriend/husband regularly enough to satisfy him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/21 01:46 PM
2	THE REASON VIRGINITY IS A BAD THING FOR MEN IS BECAUSE IT RELATES TO OVERALL VALUE Screening, that’s why. Adult virgins are virgins for a reason, and that reason could turn out to be a deal-breaker for her; why would a woman even consider taking that chance, not to mention dealing with the lack of experience, when she has SO MANY other options?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/21 06:57 PM
3	Men must change their own behaviour if they want women to change. Not expect women to change on their own. Except “these men” now make up 27 percent of the American male population at the very minimum. That is going to be noticed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/21 11:56 AM
1	Men must change their own behaviour if they want women to change. Not expect women to change on their own. With porn, but I think I might not actually be addicted to it; the only "urge" I get is the urge to masturbate in order to dispel sexual frustration. I don't feel compulsion to look at porn on its own.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/21 01:44 AM
1	Men must change their own behaviour if they want women to change. Not expect women to change on their own. If you go to r/NoFap right now you can find many stories of men admitting that porn addiction has caused them to literally see women as objects and to those who gave porn after a while they started seeing women as normal people again. Funnily enough, for me it was the opposite; I did not masturbate regularly until I was 19 years old (I'd actually never done it before then), and I was viewing my female platonic friends as pieces of meat due to sexual frustration, and was on the verge of simping f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/21 12:56 AM
9	Men must change their own behaviour if they want women to change. Not expect women to change on their own. I am not advocating what I'm about to say by any means, but I think that men wanting to check out of society or commit suicide should realise that nobody will give a shit about them doing so, and instead think hard about the few ways in which they are actually relied upon by the elite of society, so that they can commit (legal and safe) acts of civil disobedience whenever possible. Come to think of it, I think a slow burn is by no means inevitable, and we have already seen the first outbursts of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/21 12:40 AM
9	I don’t think FDS is that bad and I don’t understand why they get so much hate A lot of it is due to their statements that are (or at least seem to me) hypocritical. For instance, one piece of advice they give out is to make a guy wait multiple months for sex, whilst at the same time encouraging the woman to keep a FWB on hand to stave off sexual frustration. Aside from the fact that it is extremely hard for men to get casual FWBs compared to women, I somehow sense that the FDS ideology isn't too hot on the idea of the man doing the same thing! Secondly, to many observers,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/21 12:37 AM
7	Men must change their own behaviour if they want women to change. Not expect women to change on their own. So there is no workable plan for solving the current male loneliness epidemic. I'm honestly excited in a perverse way to see what sort of societal shitstorm transpires in the end... in fact, please for the love of God let there BE a shitstorm if nothing improves, because the alternative of a slow burn towards societal degradation can't possibly spur on any meaningful change.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/21 12:16 AM
1	Q4RP&FDS: do you really want an equal? Sorry for the late reply, I misread "wouldn't" as "would" at first and was confused. Yeah, that's true, but there's a big difference between "wouldn't happily date" and "don't need to date" - men are far more willing to lower their standards and date a fat woman when that is all they can get, whereas the concept of lowering one's standards is totally alien to all but the lowest value women since even Becky McBloatface has a huge number of options and can pretty much get what she ideally wants.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/21 12:12 AM
3	Which is more of a penalty when it comes to a man having dating options: being "boring", or being "criminal"/"sociopathic"? If you're not a Chad, being criminal/sociopathic has the higher penalty in my opinion. If you are a Chad, being boring would theoretically have the higher penalty, but it's all about looks in 2021 so you win the game no matter what.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/21 11:34 PM
5	Men must change their own behaviour if they want women to change. Not expect women to change on their own. The problem with the Redpill and MGTOW is that men have to actually be IN the sexual market to "check out" of it, or to implement demand-side economic policy. The kinds of men that "go" their "own" way (at least the never-married ones, arguably not those who got divorce-screwed) are akin to unemployed people striking for better pay.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/21 11:22 PM
–	When did you experience key sexual and relationship events? 1) When I was 11 I had my first crush, but for the longest time all I desired was romance with a girl, and I was a very late bloomer sexually and did not feel lust until I was 18. 2) LOL. 3) I sought it out for the first time (I had chanced across images earlier) when I was 13, but didn’t watch it regularly until I was 20. 4) Nope. 5) Not a chance in 2021. Chad-only.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/21 04:15 PM
1	Q4RP&FDS: do you really want an equal? That’s exactly what I said, but I think the majority of men would date fat women regardless of anything else whereas fat men need significant redeeming characteristics. Therefore, being fat has a greater SMV hit for men than for women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/21 03:46 AM
1	Modern women and modern men are not compatible That’s gonna be 98 percent male. Aspie girls, for instance, can get neurotypical men and in most cases won’t even consider dating men with autism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/21 10:41 PM
1	Q4RP&FDS: do you really want an equal? You’ve just proven my point about how screwed-up the dating market is. Being thin shouldn’t automatically be high-value - if I’m thin myself, that should be enough to get a thin girl. And far more thin men are willing to date fat women than the other way around; the fact that muscular guys STILL find it hard in America rather than having no problem with dating shows just how bad hypergamy has gotten.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/21 10:40 PM
1	Q4RP&FDS: do you really want an equal? I don’t speak for everyone, but as a blackpilled man, my dream is to marry a woman who is roughly equal in value to myself, but in a different way. If I have a full-time job and she doesn’t, I would expect her to take care of the home, if not, we can divide labor. My only height preference is that she’s not taller than me; one centimetre shorter is perfectly fine, and this is not a big ask as I’m not THAT short objectively and rarely meet taller women. I would like a girl who is my looksmatch an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/21 06:12 PM
8	Are there gender differences in how sexually a product is marketed? Yeah, I was just thinking this. Women being seductive and feminine, at least around average men, was all along largely a charade that societal expectations made them take part in. Now women have figured out that men will go through hell and high water for a crumb of mediocre sex and are under no pressure to pretend otherwise by putting in effort on their end.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/21 05:50 PM
0	Why do we push for legalizing prostitution yet denigrate the men who patronize prostitutes? Very enlightening response. Care to elaborate?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/21 05:02 PM
1	Why do we push for legalizing prostitution yet denigrate the men who patronize prostitutes? it’s mostly women who are against prostitution I think the female stigma against dating a man who had used sex workers has little to do with politics and is really just another form of screening, much like with adult virgins. Women want a guy who was desirable enough to sleep with a girl for free in his teenage years; if he had to wait for her (him now being an adult) or pay for sex, he must be lacking in some way and is therefore passed over.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/21 04:54 PM
14	Modern women and modern men are not compatible Yeah, “sluts” are slutty around Chad only. And with what we know about men’s sex drives, it will take an impossibly high amount of female promiscuity for “Chad saturation” to be reached and the sex to start trickling down to us.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/21 03:50 PM
6	Modern women and modern men are not compatible I'd say that only a small minority of women have actually "priced themselves out" of the dating market (have standards so high that no attainable man is good enough), but a huge number have increased their "price" thanks to the efficiency of online dating which connects them with the "buyer" who is the most metaphorically wealthy they can possibly get, putting them out of reach of ordinary men. Previously, they "priced" themselves within reach of the men that came to them in person. It's exactly…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/21 03:45 PM
1	Why does this sub massively exaggerate male sexlessness and the plight of the average male? That there are no actual “pickup artists” who bed tons of women anymore on those subreddits, only Incels who want to know how to get their first dates. I suspect that if any of that crap ever worked for non-Chads, Tinder completely wrecked its effectiveness, and the changes to those subreddits would indicate that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/21 10:22 PM
3	Why does this sub massively exaggerate male sexlessness and the plight of the average male? I have seen girls swipe on Tinder in clubs DAMN, this subreddit is depressing as hell. Here I was still secretly holding onto a fantasy that I’d someday get to take a girl home after a night out. “PurplePillDebate” is unironically more Blackpilled than any Incel community I’ve ever seen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/21 10:20 PM
2	Why does this sub massively exaggerate male sexlessness and the plight of the average male? LOL, not at my school. People treated me like such shit socially that I was basically quarantined before the pandemic even began.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/21 10:17 PM
1	Why does this sub massively exaggerate male sexlessness and the plight of the average male? But what about the situation with /r/seduction and /r/askseddit? Where have the “pickup artists” gone? I suspect that Tinder stopped seduction techniques from working, hence the community dying out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/21 10:16 PM
3	Why does this sub massively exaggerate male sexlessness and the plight of the average male? What about my post made it look like I was hating on women? I was just saying that it seems like a growing proportion of men are afraid to flirt with women nowadays, but a far smaller proportion of women have started making the first move themselves. Since average-looking guys very rarely get attention from girls, it is therefore very easy for a guy to end up as an adult virgin if he doesn’t take initiative.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/21 10:10 PM
1	Why does this sub massively exaggerate male sexlessness and the plight of the average male? A decline in communication skills over the space of five years singlehandedly tanked men's chances in the dating market? I don't doubt that this has contributed to the problem, but it cannot in my mind explain the whole rise in sexlessness. One figure I would REALLY like to know is what proportion of sexless young men are "soyboys" who can't approach a woman and what proportion are still having no luck despite being well-adjusted and trying all the time to get a date - it seems that in America a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/21 06:47 PM
1	Why does this sub massively exaggerate male sexlessness and the plight of the average male? Oh yeah, I've seen that. I'd like to think it's just the existing Incels spreading out after being deplatformed, but there's a chance it REALLY HAS gotten THAT bad for men in just a couple of years. Case in point - the forums /r/seduction and /r/askseddit (redpilled PUA discussion) are now essentially Incel communities, full of guys trying to get their first kiss, with the hardcore pickup artists long gone. Was that stuff always bunk, or - as I suspect - did the advent of online dating apps comp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/21 06:30 PM
2	“Stop withholding sex if you want a relationship” is not advice that is geared toward helping you find a relationship. something tells me most men wouldn’t mind a small wait if they could tell the girl was really crazy about them. In my opinion, both you and the poster you replied to are absolutely right. I WILL theoretically wait for sex if the girl is interested in me (and I see her as girlfriend material too), but her pretending to be interested in me whilst not putting out just won't cut it if I know I am being charged a higher metaphorical "price" for sex than most of her previous partners. If I have reason…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/21 06:13 PM
6	Why does this sub massively exaggerate male sexlessness and the plight of the average male? I don't doubt you, but for context, what year and country was this? Online dating has changed a LOT of social dynamics in a VERY short period of time, and even if you only want to approach girls in real life, you're now competing with Tinder Chads.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/21 05:46 PM
1	Seems like men are wanting a woman with a low N count who will sleep with him on the second date...wait, what? I don't want to end up waiting for a girl who isn't low n count tho. That is the worst of both worlds and the least desirable combination/outcome. This exactly. I think most men who are bitter about this and make paradoxical demands are low-value males struggling to come to terms with how screwed they are. What they really want is for a hypothetical woman who actually shows interest in them to be a slut with a high N-count who puts out fast (and they wouldn't judge her for that), but if they don…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/21 05:25 PM
3	CMV: The future of dating is casual and direct pay/sugar There’s so much coping going on when people ALWAYS try to explain away complaints about dating instead of thinking that, yes, maybe it REALLY IS that hard. I am not trying to stymie debate, but I think people should not dismiss the worst-case scenario out of hand. I am not sure if this is too personal for this sub, but I am 180cm tall, have not been rated as ugly-looking online, have a good personality and would consider myself confident, and I am an adult virgin. I know I am not a Chad and I am…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/21 04:29 AM
1	CMV: The future of dating is casual and direct pay/sugar I probably won’t turn to foreign dating for the reasons you mentioned, but you’ve been living under a rock if you think that only the stereotypical overweight over-40 “sexpat” is “not a catch” in America. I have heard of some objectively high-value men (though not Chads) who have gotten diddly squat in the American dating market.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/21 03:48 AM
7	Who here is generally happy with their life? I would not call myself “happy” by any stretch of the imagination, and I can’t even remember the last time I actually was. However, my life is looking up now and I definitely got happier when I took the hardcore Blackpill, due to the sudden clarity of it all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/21 03:27 AM
3	CMV: The future of dating is casual and direct pay/sugar Like they aren’t being normalised here? Japan just got a head-start due to not having “Christian morality” in the first place; it’s definitely on its way out in America.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/21 03:20 AM
1	I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable? Really? Do you live in the USA? I don’t think I’ve ever met a guy dating a more attractive girl, at least not since high school when girls couldn’t use online dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/21 07:23 PM
1	I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable? I wasn't saying that I am angry at the couples, but that the men in such relationships are often settling for what they could get because of a lack of options. I think that at least in countries with a roughly equal obesity rate by gender, a slim or muscular man wanting a slim woman shouldn't be too much to ask and isn't exactly like chasing models. The fact that quite a few guys seemingly have to settle for bigger girls indicates a skewed dating market.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/21 08:41 PM
2	I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable? I think most men don’t really consider it unreasonable for a woman to have requirements that are in line with her own value, like a slim woman not wanting overweight men. Fundamentally, men are just bitter about this (maybe rightfully so) because the dating market’s fucked. A woman who makes reasonable requests of a potential partner can actually get them, close to 100 percent of the time, whereas I’ve seen many, many slim and even muscular men dating tubby women - and they can’t all be fat-feti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/21 02:40 PM