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I like what you are pointing out though. Most day in the life videos of single guys tend to be those loud brash ones. I think there are lots of guys who are mgtow's but don't identify as such. I'm thinking of one bodybuilder Mike Thurston. He never or rarely mentions women and has calm thoughtful videos about his daily life sometimes. Sure he plays it up a little for the camera but there's a definite sense women are not on a pedestal for him. I think there are probably tons of examples like this…
/r/MGTOW201/08/21 02:58 PM
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The MGTOW Solution
/r/MGTOW201/08/21 02:28 PM
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I'm most likely quite a bit older than you but I feel the same about my stuff. I go outside the rooms I rent to the garage and see my paddleboards ($3000), mtn bike ($4000) and truck ($40k) all paid off and ready to go. I put every single penny I save into bitcoin since 2013 and plan to pass it down to my children when I'm gone.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 01:52 PM
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Same. I've posted it before but sold my house when my daughters moved out. Currently renting a few rooms for dirt cheap. I work remotely so can travel any time and have no debt. Before my divorce 10 years ago we were looking at buying a house double the size we were in despite it being just fine. Always upgrading appliances and cars. This way is better. :)
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 11:50 AM
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Yep. The flip side of this is what do women want? More. So enough is never enough. Set your boundaries and enforce them brutally. All roads lead to mgtow.
/r/MGTOW28/07/21 08:45 PM
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I'm considering upgrading the rooms I rent currently. I'm having a great time researching how to decorate small bedrooms and offices. How to be efficient in space usage (my rooms are small). There are tons of really cool "bachelor" type setups. All of this is done in a calm and collected fashion. No hurry. No nagging. I haven't even been to Lowes or Home Depot yet. And when I do i'll already know what I want. In and out. Because I'm a pretty extreme minimalist it's been easy to move things aroun…
/r/MGTOW226/07/21 12:13 PM
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Men create a surplus of Order. The real world runs on order not Chaos so nagging: Creates more chaos by introducing stress on you - win for her She can feed off this chaos - win for her The task still gets done because men can do it - win for her. We lose on all 3 things except possibly the 3rd.
/r/MGTOW26/07/21 11:34 AM
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That's good to know. Nothing really gets that big where I'm at. So would you prefer a rifle overall? I'm assuming a 30/30 wouldn't be large enough unless you were lucky. Maybe 30.06 or larger?
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 06:12 PM
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I very rarely date now but I have a string of long term fwb's that keep coming around every time they don't have a bf. It's unusual to go more than 2-3 weeks without one contacting me.
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 06:01 PM
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Same. The hunting rifle could certainly kill it but I think the shotgun would edge it out. 1 MAYBE 2 shotgun blasts to a bears face and it might not die but it wouldnt be back thats for sure. And it would be almost impossible to miss no matter how tired you were.
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 05:00 PM
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I sat home every night this week and read a book. Even 10 years after my divorce I still feel amazed at how easy it is to just....do what I want. It's too hot to go out where I live easily but at one time it would have been doing the yard, going out to eat, the mall, etc. Something. Anything but just stay home and enjoy a few quiet nights in a row without any nagging.
/r/MGTOW23/07/21 04:56 PM
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Air fryer was a game changer for me. I love my Instant Pot too. Between those two you can probably do about 95% of any food you'll ever want. I've cooked tons of different veggies in my air fryer also. Just make sure to chunk them up to appropriate size and check periodically. Crispy veggies like broccoli really are awesome done this way.
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 09:55 AM
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Peace is the opposite of what almost all women want. They thrive under chaos...typically emotional but not always. I've seen women just enraged because a man acted peaceful despite their best efforts. Enraged.
/r/MGTOW19/07/21 07:53 PM
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Brother I look forward to your clear and insightful post on this topic.
/r/MGTOW219/07/21 12:44 AM
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I'm most likely a lot older than you but I still use women for companionship for short periods. Younger women though....ugh that's a minefield for sure. Plus unlike me you really do run the risk of catching feels. Maybe a much older woman? She's using you as much as you are her most likely. Everybody wins.
/r/MGTOW19/07/21 12:43 AM
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Brother I look forward to your clear and insightful post on this topic.
/r/MGTOW219/07/21 12:32 AM
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I let one handed go mostly for no real reason. I guess mainly because i got some indian clubs and clubbells. If you think kbs are fun you should get a light 10-15lb clubbell. HUGE range of motion on some things. You feel like a kid with them and it sounds cliche but they will work you in ways nothing else will. Kb’s and clubs are a lifetime investment too which is cool.
/r/MGTOW218/07/21 10:10 PM
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Him trying to audit the Fed for 30 years and failing would have broken me. That was probably my first red pill political moment.
/r/MGTOW18/07/21 09:46 PM
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I have children and was married for 20 years. You know what I worked on? My job/career and NO time for myself. So now being able to do both is a blessing. Working on yourself can mean being generous in your community, volunteering, etc. It's not like it has to be 24x7 meditation and being a gymbro.
/r/MGTOW218/07/21 09:40 PM
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I think without blood ties this is hard to do and even with family bad stuff can happen. I'm sure plenty of these things work and we never hear about it though. Intentional communities seem to do better with some type of shared religious outlook. Make sure to keep updating because I'm liking all your posts so far. Yeah, bringing women like that just wouldn't be my thing. I'm older though so it's easy for me to say that. In the USA you could probably achieve almost the same level of safety with f…
/r/MGTOW218/07/21 09:34 PM
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Only on Reddit could someone agree with you in every general sense and still say your are a moron. I hereby retract eating meat (obviously we will die terribly from a few weeks of it), bodybuilding (you suggest compound exercises consistently....bodybuilding), crossfit (because adding jump roping and olympic lifting is terrible) and that I know anything after doing this and observing guys older than me for 35 years. Cheers! ​ Edited to add: I read your post on Steve from a year ago. Totally agre…
/r/MGTOW218/07/21 08:35 PM
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I probably should have been more clear. I would say only do that until you are at a good bodyfat. Your fat itself nourishes you during that phase and its short term. And thanks!
/r/MGTOW218/07/21 07:51 PM
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You didn't really take what I said into consideration on several levels. I said meat only until you aren't a fat sack of shit. You won't die or freaking hurt yourself short term eating meat. Good lord we weren't hunting mammoths and then dying of cancer. Meat is real food. The first and primary food. Most people don't eat enough quality meat. By cutting everything else out they can restore proper hormone balances, lose all the bodyfat and most of all learn to prepare it properly for a lifetime o…
/r/MGTOW218/07/21 06:06 PM
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I remember the end of one of Asimov's novels. There were hive minded people out looking for dangerous aliens in the galaxy and constantly on guard. Asimov ends the novel showing that some of the humans had (definitely scifi) energy converters built into their bodies to provide all the power for all their wants and needs. He portrayed those self sufficient humans as the true threat to the hives. Of course Asimov was a full left retard but he did correctly point out the different perspectives of t…
/r/MGTOW18/07/21 05:54 PM
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Same. Now in my 50's I essentially have no male friends. Plenty of acquaintances but not friends. Between wife isolation, being fat and going full retard on things like prepping meat all weekend every weekend they never get out.
/r/MGTOW18/07/21 05:48 PM
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My mom told me she missed the ups and downs after my father died and she was with a new man. Me: why? I thought you wanted stability you said? Her: That is stable. The ups and downs equal out. This is an ultimate biological truth that if accepted makes it easy to avoid cohabitation at least.
/r/MGTOW18/07/21 05:22 PM
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"I don't know" is the mantra and ultimate truth for 99% of the women I've ever known. On any issue. ANY ISSUE.
/r/MGTOW18/07/21 05:20 PM
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I alternate a few months in a gym doing classic bodybuilding then I get bored and switch back to kettlebells, clubbells, etc. I've also noticed once I hit my late 40's the 70+ kb's were just too much for me. So happily swinging my 52lb now. Something about swinging things just is fun in a way db's and barbells can't replicate.
/r/MGTOW218/07/21 05:09 PM
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I save about 50% of my income minimum making a little more than you. For comparison I rent half of a house from an older (woman) coworker for $500/month. No other house related bills i.e. cable, internet, etc. I eat VERY well. Grassfed meat, all organic veges, etc. I could easily cut this down if needed. Paid off truck. Phone bill @$100/month, gym@$35/month and insurance @$150/month. I still support my youngest daughter so bills will drop even further once she graduates college soon. Lots of sin…
/r/MGTOW218/07/21 01:23 PM
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I don't really get some of the hate on bitcoin by mgtows either. To me this is MGTOW MONEY. Totally portable, no one can steal it, send it anywhere. You'd think 99% of mgtows would want to see it succeed so much they'd be out banging doors praising it.
/r/MGTOW17/07/21 07:52 PM
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RemindMe! 6 years
/r/MGTOW17/07/21 05:51 PM
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I agree with all your points. Golds use in electronics has nothing to do with it sov properties however. Countries using it has a definite advantage but bitcoin is slowly being adopted also and at the same time places are cracking down on it. Both are true but you should at least consider the fact they could be cracking down because its a threat to fiat. I think having no “use” outside sov is fine. I see that as an advantage actually. Time will tell fairly quickly either way. We will go back to …
/r/MGTOW17/07/21 05:48 PM
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I've been slowly doing this more and more also. I actually like to grocery shop so that will still happen but everything else....no. I have a string of fwb's that actually do what you say although I've never really considered it that way before. It's been years since I took a woman out to eat and paid. I will split it now (or alternate paying - same thing). I like lists so in the spirit of your reply I'll list what I see as possible. Groceries - literally anywhere now after covid. Clothes - Amaz…
/r/MGTOW17/07/21 01:13 PM
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It's still shocking to me that many of the 40+ women I've had as fwb's look way better than almost all the 20-somethings locally.
/r/MGTOW17/07/21 12:26 PM
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Bitcoin is able to use renewable that can't be used elsewhere. There are tons of energy sources too far from civilization to transport but bitcoin can use this. It has no need to be transported so energy can be used onsite. It can also use leftover energy that is wasted by traditional energy creation. Literally 5 min of google searches can provide you with tons of examples of this. Coins are based on dollars? When I see euros I convert to dollars to make sense to me. Does that mean euros generat…
/r/MGTOW16/07/21 04:49 PM
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You could always do some sort of routine like Iron Wolf shows on youtube. That's all he does and hes in fantastic shape. 95% bodyweight.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 02:10 PM
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You and I are 100% in sync on this. I was just trying to make a point. I walk first thing at sunrise and honestly it's the best part of my day. I split it between interesting podcasts and thinking. Every guy I tell to walk just comes back with 50 excuses like its boring or I dont have time.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 01:49 PM
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There's definitely some room for interpretation there. I just count the water in my (black) coffee too. But yeah I probably have to go to the bathroom hourly still.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 01:47 PM
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You really think a chad body has nothing to do with eating well? Have you ever tried it? It requires tons of attention to nutrition. If by "constantly train" you mean 3-5x week for 45 min then yeah. I don't define that as constant myself. I love eating quality food and I still eat out plenty so it's not like you can't enjoy yourself too. Being fit and muscular has TONS of benefits without ever taking your shirt off. I'm not sure how old you are but hit your 50's looking like a sad sack of shit a…
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 01:27 PM
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Your whole life will be miserable just because you hit the gym and ate really well?
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 01:14 PM
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They are literally giving away service type jobs right now too. I read some places are paying people to even show up for interviews.
/r/MGTOW16/07/21 11:57 AM
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I've never understood "homeless" people that live in places like that. Isn't the cost of living there astronomical? Dumb bitch, move to the midwest or the southeast of the USA.
/r/MGTOW16/07/21 11:56 AM
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Because you are a man. Reciprocity comes easily and naturally to us. I'm the same way.
/r/MGTOW16/07/21 11:52 AM
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100% agree. After 35 years of lifting weights/being fit I've been considering a post somewhat like this. I would just put the gym about 5 or 6 down the list of priorities for true long term health and fitness (don't get me wrong im hitting the weights still 4-6x week at 51). My list which I don't think changes yours but just reorders priorities a little would be: Sleep - at least 7 hours of SLEEP. Not lying in bed time. Get a tracker. You'll be amazed that it takes at least 8+ in bed to get 7 ho…
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 11:37 AM
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Totally agree but they can't really take advantage of it. Sure they get all that and if they were like men they would be so grateful and content. However, every woman I know even into their 50's is still a bag of neurotic insecurities despite all of this. I see it up close with my daughters. My oldest is/was a model, good job, MASSIVE attention from high earners where she works and still isn't even close to happy. Can you imagine if we as men got attention like that? I'd walk around on a cloud a…
/r/MGTOW16/07/21 09:50 AM
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Since my children grew up and went out on their own I couldn't agree more. I'm envious of the young guys who found mgtow in their 20's or before. I was married for 20 years so I've seen both sides. Lots of good times during marriage but looking back they all involved my children but I can't think of any special benefit to having a woman there. In the 10 years single since then I've increased my focus on minimalism, hobbies, reading, philosophy and my income has doubled while my expenses have gon…
/r/MGTOW16/07/21 09:43 AM
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I was on the fence about this for a few years. In my opinion (back then) WESTERN marriage wasn't compatible but maybe traditional marriages outside of the West could be. I'm so glad we have mgtows from all over the world here that quickly disabused me of that idea. In some ways those marriages sound worse. And even if the laws, culture, etc are 100% completely on your side there's STILL shit testing, holding frame, constant nagging, the financial issues....the list goes on.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 09:34 AM
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That has not been my experience at all. In fact when I first started traveling I fully expected it would be but it never happened. I never really go out much at night though so that may be one difference. No bars for me. I tend to be up early and have lots of physical activities planned (kayaking, hiking, etc) in the mornings. Lunch and a nap. Then afternoon sightseeing depending on where I am. I agree with the other poster that there's a good chance the awkward looks are more your perception th…
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 09:26 AM
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We will just have to disagree on the climate change issue related to bitcoin. Hashing power is almost 50% totally from renewable energy sources now and rising quickly. That's way ahead of any other technology. Bitcoin is almost completely separated from the controlling class and becomes more every day as adoption continues. They can't stop hashing, they can't stop transactions, they can't inflate it, they can't hack it, etc etc. It's literally the only property that can't be taken from you witho…
/r/MGTOW16/07/21 09:22 AM
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I agree that gold has those properties but none of those make it a good store of value except for not corroding. Which also applies to bitcoin even moreso. I guess only the next 10 or so years will show whether people agree with me.
/r/MGTOW16/07/21 09:10 AM
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Absolutely my experience too from back then.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 10:11 PM
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I think it just needs time and more adoption to smooth out. I mean dollars are hundreds of years old and gold is thousands (maybe tens of thousands).
/r/MGTOW15/07/21 09:24 PM
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In the sense you don't need a "trusted" third party. You can't have anything in the modern world without the things you mention so yes bitcoin doesn't exist in a utopian fairy tale dimension by itself with no need for external energy or inputs.
/r/MGTOW15/07/21 09:21 PM
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Yeah, that was a good exchange for sure. I'm a diehard bitcoin maximalist but this happened over many years of thinking not overnight. I may change my mind again too so I don't rule anything out.
/r/MGTOW15/07/21 09:18 PM
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Other cryptos are not the same as Bitcoin. Supply is not infinite. It's like saying since there is infinite metal in the world that gold will go to zero.
/r/MGTOW15/07/21 09:17 PM
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What is gold's inherent value? Don't say store of value. That's circular logic. Value is assigned by people. Nothing is inherent.
/r/MGTOW15/07/21 09:14 PM
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I think every single activity I'm involved in is considered either a hate group or somehow hurts women. MGTOW, crypto, minimalism, bodybuilding/fitness, solo travel, etc etc. I'm sure at some point my black coffee (nothing added) that I drink in my insulated camo cup will be considered anti-women. I mean if I'm not addicted to sugar I can't support the healthcare system so much. Everyone knows camo probably means I'm a hateful Trumper who hates the environment and kills Bambi too.
/r/MGTOW13/07/21 01:22 PM
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I'm hoping as I age into the period where many men become single through more than divorce i.e. death of a spouse that I will be able to find more to do things with. I don't hold out much hope though. In my area of the southeastern USA most men over 50 married or not are some sad sacks of shit physically. I've went a few times to a large hiking group locally and it was 98% female. Men my age here equate being on the water with large boats, being in the woods with a cabin and recreational activit…
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 01:14 PM
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I'd rephrase slightly because happiness is usually associated with a feeling. Feelings come and go. It's an emotion. I'd say contentment is closer but that's also associated with "not trying" or "settling". The Greek word Ataraxia comes closest but of course no one has heard of it. Mini rant over. :)
/r/MGTOW13/07/21 11:41 AM
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Most of the peak experiences of my life have happened after my divorce 10 years or so ago. At 51 I feel I will have double or triple as many more this decade as I did 40-50. Hiking on a trail for hours, paddleboarding on a still lake at 6:30 AM alone, dozens of sexual experiences I could have only dreamed of when married, cooking meals that shame a 5 star restaurant, etc. etc. None of these experiences required a woman (except sex which didn't require a SPECIFIC woman) or even anyone else really…
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 09:52 AM
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I like the posts where there's some kind of woman angle. So pursuing hobbies that require lots of time, money and energy to me is valid because if you chase women or are married you can't do that. Same with careers. I was married for 20 years and it took a few years to make sure my decision to never ever marry again was real. Now I just skip over the no marriage posts because they don't really interest me. I know they are aimed at younger guys or those (foolishly) considering remarrying. I also …
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 09:42 AM
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It's funny how that happens isn't it. I was doing the majority of all that when married 10 years ago already but it was still a shock how much my workload decreased when we divorced. I can't just cook...I can cook well. I keep my place spotless. My filters and batteries for ac, appliances, etc. are always changed on a schedule. The real kicker is it's EASY. If you don't continually mess up your house like you are a spoiled child none of this is hard.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 09:31 AM
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I think the time element is the hardest. I know once my marriage crashed I wanted out asap. If a man can fight that then he's golden.
/r/MGTOW210/07/21 11:22 AM
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Absolutely. Same. Something I would have never considered when younger but now I will definitely do it. I quit drinking though because that was causing issues. Not big issues since I drink very little but even that little bit affected me. Doing a program called 75Hard now and no alcohol is part of it. That wasn't why I started it but after a couple of weeks I noticed a huge difference in general well being that I attribute mostly to no alcohol. Drugs though. Yes. In measured doses in a good envi…
/r/MGTOW10/07/21 10:13 AM
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My daughters call my insulated cup "one cup to rule them all" lol. I have one cup but my roommate has dozens and dozens plus is always buying more.
/r/MGTOW10/07/21 10:06 AM
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Kids are fairly expensive over time but when my daughters lived with me post-divorce it wasn't bad at all. They both got jobs as soon as they were old enough without any prodding from me. Now when I was married it was constant clothing upgrades, activities, etc etc. And my ex-wife wasn't nearly as bad as most (and earned a huge paycheck).
/r/MGTOW10/07/21 10:04 AM
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Outside of the work issue though seems like it dovetails nicely with the no marriage (especially) and no kids that many/most mgtow's agree with. Do you think this trend will grow there or is there just too much cultural resistance? I know China is huge so maybe that's a nonsensical question because there are so many variables.
/r/MGTOW210/07/21 10:02 AM
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Nothing would be worse than spouses family constantly undermining you.
/r/MGTOW210/07/21 09:34 AM
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I know multiple men I work with whose wives quit when they got a job at my company. The pay is extremely good and it's in high demand (IT cloud mgmt). The husbands weren't happy but the wives basically nagged and then finally just did it. I mean....how can you stop them? He should do that in this case. Or better yet start stashing assets for a couple of years and gtfo of that marriage.
/r/MGTOW210/07/21 09:31 AM
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They are but like he said he needs to "start" losing them. It might take years but withdrawing cash, buying cryptos like monero under different usernames (or bitcoin with coinjoin privacy), possibly buying assets that can be hidden can be done. Withdrawing cash and buying assets might be easiest. Gold coins comes to mind. I have one friend who I know I could give cash to and he would buy land or property for me. Then "sell" it to me post-divorce. Cryptos would be more tricky with all the KYC law…
/r/MGTOW210/07/21 09:28 AM
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Yep, agree. Plus, it's a poll like you said so at some point things have to be condensed. When I was first single I think I just naturally thought fwb's were short term but that was semi blue-pill thinking for sure. I was just hanging out for a few hours with a woman I literally met a month or two after my divorce a decade ago. She's been through one more husband and multiple bf's since then. Also, your website is great. I've already bookmarked numerous sections to return to periodically and you…
/r/MGTOW210/07/21 09:21 AM
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Major in personal finance for early retirees and minor in Peace studies :)
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 07:50 PM
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Honestly, mine were great. Better than being married for sure. I still miss being able to talk frequently to my ex FIL. He is a good old school Silent Generation type.
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 07:41 PM
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What do women want? More. Always more. I've never really found a truly content women old or young.
/r/MGTOW09/07/21 07:25 PM
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I agree and you've said it exactly. There's a depreciating asset value there whereas starting a family, business, etc grows and becomes more valuable over time.
/r/MGTOW09/07/21 07:21 PM
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Plus there are variations on what LTR even means. I've known many women off and on for multiple years now while being friendly and occasionally having sex when they are between boyfriends/husbands. Not really an LTR in the classic sense but its definitely a long term type of relationship. Some of them I expect this arrangement to continue for the next 20-30 years most likely.
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 06:55 PM
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I have never ever even remotely considered this option but I will think on it now or some variation! That's what's so great about this sub. So many men and therefore so many ideas.
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 06:52 PM
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It's interesting but almost every single woman I know has heard of mgtow somehow but not the term "red pill" nearly as much. I believe because whatever they are reading about dating or modern culture mgtow is a direct and brutal "nope not interested". For most women a man simply not being interested in carrying the weight of a relationship or wanting to get married is just unfathomable. I'm sure the women writing articles for other women bring it up.
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 08:30 AM
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I was speaking theoretically if i was to consider it. I’ve been doing as you say for 10 years now.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 07:08 PM
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Trips, things, retirement. I’m certainly not carrying most of the financial load.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 06:52 PM
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Can you just change the lock? If not, getting that key will be an issue I bet.
/r/MGTOW07/07/21 01:28 PM
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Nice, clean place to eat. Check Entertainment options provided. Check Dog? Check Cleaning? Roomba. Check ​ A little too bare for me but you could live like a king here.
/r/MGTOW07/07/21 09:37 AM
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So I meet all of those requirements. Now let's reverse it because those would be minimums for me also. Except for height. I'd prefer less than 5'8" but it's not a dealbreaker. I wonder how many women can meet them. Not obese AND earns good money...lolol. Probably .000051% of women. Add in some minimal beauty standard and you may as well play the lottery.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 09:34 AM
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He's very eclectic. You have to take the weird with the good with him lol.
/r/MGTOW06/07/21 09:31 PM
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I may be recalling it wrong but even in Diehard he was divorced (or maybe separated) simping for his ex.
/r/MGTOW06/07/21 09:24 PM
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2004-2007 would put you around my age (51). I wonder if age has something to so with it also. In the last year I've found myself just having zero patience for shit testing or any less than stellar behavior. Way less. All of the women I see periodically (no relationships) are 45+ so you would think they might improve at least some...but no they haven't. Whereas I feel my self control, knowledge and overall disposition has definitely improved over time. I'm not quite there yet but ghosting women f…
/r/MGTOW06/07/21 09:17 PM
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I will definitely be using this!!
/r/MGTOW06/07/21 05:31 PM
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If you want to see systematic, pervasive and oppressive dehumanization go look at about 90% of husbands 25-45. Anywhere, any town. All of the time. See their faces. We need a special word for this. Husbandism maybe. You don't even need to be a husband to be affected. Husbandism: Pervasive and all encompassing oppression caused by being viewed as an atm, workhorse and all around emotional punching bag by everyone you love the most around you. All roads lead to mgtow. F these people.
/r/MGTOW202/07/21 09:23 AM
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You may have done this but definitely get a professional tax accountant to look over your situation. They may easily save you 10x-100x of their fee in taxes.
/r/MGTOW30/06/21 09:05 AM
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I've been hearing what a Real Man should do for 30 years. F these people. Invariably these are some of the most cucked non "real men" you could imagine. I feel like the truly masculine "real men" are doing 1 of 2 different things. Either they are quietly raising families with the few good women out there or they are MGTOW (or trending that way fast). I don't think there are any other options out there now. Only the mgtow option allows you to truly control your life though.
/r/MGTOW30/06/21 08:39 AM
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Lol my oldest is an RN and she has an ongoing set of stories at all times about the other nurses there. Mostly late 20's to early 30's, single mothers with all the multiple baby daddy drama you'd expect. It's actually been good for her because she is absolutely terrified of going down that path now and the total misery and chaos of that lifestyle is reinforced for her daily.
/r/MGTOW30/06/21 08:35 AM
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Animal abusing Chad lololol....
/r/MGTOW29/06/21 07:24 PM
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Better let LEO and the military know this. They could save a ton on weapons since they won't stop anyone anyway.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 06:54 PM
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Exactly. Just having it helps because you know you can stop the use of force. I always wonder where these people come from quoting this stuff.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 06:54 PM
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I typically didn't carry while walking local trails but the first time I ever did a rabid dog charged me multiple times (but never too close) and without my gun and aggressive stance I have zero doubt he would have attacked fully. Now, EVERY time I do and have a similar setup to you.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 06:51 PM
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I'm fairly certain anything like that in a city here in the USA would quickly be attacked and shut down. In some rural areas you could probably do it. My brother actually lives in a small backwoods community on a remote river and it's 90% male. The females there are ok but still 90% of any problems between neighbors always somehow either involve the female or she's making it worse. You could probably get close to this with some stipulations on age (maybe 25-28+), only one person per apartment an…
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 07:27 PM
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I agree. Sure mgtow have more time to be alone if they wish but it's not some kind of requirement. I'm more solitary but easily can be social when I want (especially in clubs, groups, etc) and no one gives a shit what my relationship status is mostly. I guess the dividing line would be actual true long term friends might be harder to find but just being social shouldn't be.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 07:19 PM
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I make $120k+ and sold my house. Still cutting expenses even more now. Cheap rent. I may buy again one day but the freedom of "owning" nothing is really nice also.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 04:54 PM
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Yeah, true. So easy to do when you dont live with a woman too. Just simply…ghost. Reconnect later if you want or not.
/r/MGTOW28/06/21 02:16 PM
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I'd slightly restate that to say women are delightful if and only if you know exactly what you want and never allow your boundaries to be exceeded. I guess if you want to be married you might want to slap someone but I can't imagine wanting to live with anyone I need to physically keep in line. Nope, not even one day of that. I have fwb's and have never felt the need to slap anyone. If one gets to be too much I just ghost for a little bit and it resets things.
/r/MGTOW28/06/21 01:56 PM
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It's still difficult for me not to step in and try to help/fix situations for women I know sometimes. Not as much as it used to be but it's fighting a natural part of myself.
/r/MGTOW28/06/21 01:49 PM
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Or even better....nothing, The absolute worst thing a man can do in those peoples minds...nothing.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 01:46 PM
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In my experience women over 40 have either had a TON of dick or very little (i.e. different guys). Doesn't seem to be much in between. I've been with many who I was the second guy they had ever been with because they had been married forever. On the flip side many get divorced around 40ish and go down the path you describe.
/r/MGTOW28/06/21 12:48 AM
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Honestly, I wouldn't worry too much about it. To me true simping is about DOING things for women. What you are talking about is probably half simping and half just sensory (female) deprivation and is to be expected. At 20 it's probably going to be hard to totally beat it. It gets easier when you are older like me (51) to either ignore or say simple things like "ok" and "yes/no" that give no energy back. Lots of good suggestions from other commenters too. Just keep general contact with females to…
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 11:40 AM
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The woman I rent my half of a house from is currently entered in a major fitness magazine contest. She's #1 in the running for her age group also. So all that attention in real life (probably an easy age adjusted 8/9), the attention from the people who vote in the magazine and its still not enough. She still suffers from being "lonely" and not having enough attention. It's never enough. Ever. All roads lead to mgtow.
/r/MGTOW27/06/21 11:33 AM
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Yes, I agree some must be "cultural" between genX and zoomer/millenial outlooks. I also very much like my job doing IT Cloud work so there's that also. I'll join that subreddit. I'm always open to different approaches to mgtow and (outside of my job lol) I'm semi-NEET'ed now I guess. Pay very small rent for two rooms - bedroom and office in a house. No bills to speak of. Travel a lot. Life seems so long to me now even at my age. With medical advances and some luck I could live to 100 possibly in…
/r/MGTOW226/06/21 10:27 PM
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Maybe look at it this way. What's the point of my paddleboards and kayaks? Tons of peaceful time out on lakes and rivers in nature. What's the point of my nice 4x4 truck? I can go anywhere and love that feeling when I'm driving it. What's the point of being super fit and lean (at 51)? I can go anywhere and do anything physical within the limits of what my body is capable of. What's the point of having enough wealth to stop working? Work can be rewarding and knowing you can stop makes it even mor…
/r/MGTOW26/06/21 09:58 PM
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I don't really get the whole NEET thing still. I've read some but I don't see how its good long term. Is it living with your parents until they die and hoping they leave enough? I'm 51 now and being a NEET for the last 30 years would have meant I had nothing now. Does it involve getting some sort of govt assistance or is it like MGTOW where each NEET path is different?
/r/MGTOW226/06/21 09:50 PM
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If you want something (sex, women, etc) go do it. If not, then don't. I wouldn't wait but I also wouldn't kill myself out there pursuing something that will always be there (women) instead of something that won't (opportunities and the energy to pursue them). With that being said though I do think even mgtow's who might want short term or fb type setups sometimes don't do it because of fear. Not fear of women but fear of approaching women. I've been in all kinds of stressful and sometimes danger…
/r/MGTOW25/06/21 02:54 PM
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Oh I agree. It just gave me this idea. If it doesn't work out I'll just buy another house or possibly permanently travel next. My youngest is about to graduate college so I'm not quite ready to make the transition to traveling full time yet.
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 12:24 PM
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I actually got the idea from a guy at mgtow.com who always rents to single females. They basically can never get their shit together enough to move back out so they were good very long term tenants. Most had men in and out helping. So I thought a good variation of that would be what I'm doing. Take advantage of the fact she doesn't make great financial decisions (she doesn't) and just like you say I'm "helping" her by paying rent. The flip side is I'm totally mobile to travel for long periods wi…
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 11:38 AM
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I am experimenting with this currently. Renting half a house from a woman I worked with at one time. So far (4 months) it's been pretty smooth but I work from home and like things quiet and clean. It has definitely been interesting actually living with/near a woman for the first time in 10 years and not married. You get a real view into some of the mental chaos of their lives even if the outside looks good. We both travel a fair amount which was the whole reason I considered this arrangement. Mu…
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 10:32 AM
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Sounds like the whole country is ripe for mgtow to spread like wildfire if it ever catches on. Maybe something along the line of mgtow + the lying flat movement.
/r/MGTOW24/06/21 07:33 PM
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I think the problem here is "wife". Non-monogamous relationships can work sure but changing to that seems to wreck 99% of them. Technically, all my fwb's are non-monogamous. Like I dgaf what they do when they aren't with me. I bet the rule is this is always the wife/gf bringing this shit up. Sex for them is easy and they have already chosen someone. The solution would be no wife or gf lol. Problem solved. :) I've mentioned this before about what I do and got downvoted, called a cuck, etc. I woul…
/r/MGTOW24/06/21 07:24 PM
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Do not marry. Do not cohabitate. I think these two will let all the rest follow and account for 90% of not wasting time. Workout religiously and eat well. If you get fat now you are fucked in your 30's and 40's trying to get it all off. Much easier to just never be unhealthy. Like the other posters said live and experience all that you can. Looking back focusing too much on work was a mistake for me. Being single you can be motivated and work hard and still have time to do all the rest. Edited t…
/r/MGTOW223/06/21 01:12 PM
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I do the same now. At one time I followed a few women btc'ers but quickly realized they all were just using it as a platform to get attention. Now its all guys who hodl and guys who HATE crypto. I like following both just to see the rage from the crypto haters as it goes up and up and up.
/r/MGTOW23/06/21 12:34 PM
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I'd say hate goes too far. There is a spectrum for women family members also. I'd also say you can escape much (but not all) of the state interference by just being single. Yes, taxes suck but compared to being married and supporting a woman it's a pittance. I've been there and done that and now being single money is not an issue. Mgtow's can disagree without calling each other npc's come on dude. I think there is a wide range of opinion especially since each man is going his OWN way.
/r/MGTOW223/06/21 10:16 AM
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In the strict sense you have relationships of different types of people all the time. I've found long term fwb type "relationships" to be very beneficial to me. Sex when/if I want it, someone to hike, paddleboard etc. But long term deep relationships with women...no way. Then inevitably you get dragged into their lives and their lives are.....chaos and drama. Kid issues, ex issues, work issues. The list is long. I've never met a woman who didn't at least have one of these going on at any one tim…
/r/MGTOW23/06/21 10:05 AM
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So wait having children now means I can't be mgtow lol. What's next no job, no house, etc? Maybe just live in a barrel like Diogenes? No food just live on air? Only then can I be mgtow..... No marriage and no cohabitation. Fuck off with anything else. I have daughters and was married way back at one time. I raised my children afterward AND was mgtow at the same time. Having kids doesn't somehow mean you aren't going your own way. This is the kind of No True Scotsman shaming that has no place in …
/r/MGTOW223/06/21 09:50 AM
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One guy at work is a mgtow but absolutely rejects the name and "philosophy" of it. He's "not into woman hating". However, he makes well into 6 figures, plays video games, travels and has never had a gf. Some of this is because he is overweight but he's had lots of girls initiate but he doesn't follow up. The last girl to do this was a teacher and he spent two days at work calculating child support payments for being married to a teacher lolol. So he DOES mgtow no matter what he says. All that be…
/r/MGTOW223/06/21 09:43 AM
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Sometimes I feel like the pressure in the USA is huge to marry, have children, work...work...work but I imagine culturally it's much worse in China. Or at least that seems to be what I read all the time. I'd love if we had a huge influx of Chinese guys on here. Can you imagine the new ideas and discussion with millions of men from a completely different background? I post the saying all roads lead to mgtow all the time and I wonder if mgtow will catch on over there or will it be a very different…
/r/MGTOW23/06/21 09:29 AM
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And when he actually first showed it he looked like a kid he was so happy. He even edited out the women near him lol. https://twitter.com/michael\_saylor/status/1378423030116941830/photo/1
/r/MGTOW23/06/21 09:13 AM
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I agree. I don't think (yet) there's another killer app like btc but permissionless trustless unhackable blockchains I'm sure are the future for all kinds of things.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 05:46 PM
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Good on you for investigating these things. I'm a bitcoin maxi myself but don't hate on other projects. I just don't see the need for most of them since you can build the same types of applications at Layer 2 or Layer 3 on top of bitcoin. Especially now with Taproot and Lightning fully being integrated soon.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 05:03 PM
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I had it really bad until about 35...which coincidentally is when my marriage started plummeting downhill. My insistence on sharing kid/house duties 50/50 was a direct result of me not being so "happy" just living with a woman. I think looking back it's 100% tied into your sex drive so if I had to do it over again I'd either have multiple fwb's (like I do now at 50) or use escorts. For me since I'm a solid 8/10 I'd go with fwb's but man....younger women are just crazy these days so maybe escorts…
/r/MGTOW22/06/21 12:40 PM
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Added to my list.
/r/MGTOW21/06/21 10:01 AM
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It's a little more expensive but I only eat free range and grass fed meat. This solves some of this issue. I think vegetarian with eggs, butter, etc is doable but vegan....no way. I've known a few vegans and they look and feel like shit and periodically relapse back to animal products because of their health/cravings. I say only a "little" more expensive because if you stop eating shit food and eating out it might even turn out to be less expensive than what most people eat now. I tried pure car…
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 09:58 AM
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First marriages are down but I think the biggest change will be second, third, etc marriages. All it takes after a divorce is a little depression and rage to come across the red pill online. Once you do....you can't go back. Most likely most men will do some pua/dating like I did but mgtow was sitting there the whole time enticing me. I still date but it's different. I KNOW the boundaries now and enjoy what I need from women but that's it.
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 09:53 AM
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The thing is, he isn't even "wrong" mostly. We are biologically conditioned to do that. However, I'm also biologically conditioned to eat sugar (as much as i can get just in case a famine comes), be lazy as fuck (to conserve energy for hunting when needed) and to dominate other men (to acquire resources) and yet.....i CHOOSE to do none of those. Because none of those things are useful to me now in the present. So just because I'm conditioned or predisposed to something has no relevant bearing on…
/r/MGTOW21/06/21 09:48 AM
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We have an LGBTQ meeting/conference today. I have yet to identify any female under 300 lbs participating.
/r/MGTOW16/06/21 05:57 PM
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I think this is all true and one of the essential "jobs" for a mgtow man is to find a substitute if there is one. I think if I was 20-something again I would look much more into monk type communities or try to build something like that. At 50 now I enjoy my life but the good times with my family will likely never be replicated in any meaningful way for me.
/r/MGTOW215/06/21 05:38 PM
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Yes, I don't miss the early days at all with my two daughters. Once they hit about 2-3 years old though it was fantastic.
/r/MGTOW15/06/21 03:56 PM
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This is really similar to a technique called Muscle Spinning. After lifting for 30+ years now I realize if I just never gave a shit about strength I would have been completely fine. Especially after doing jiu-jitsu for years you realize strength is way overrated. I mean its not BAD but some guys like me with smaller joints just will never have that brute strength no matter what and my joints have suffered over the years. Eventually, every guy will end up lifting very closely to what you outline …
/r/MGTOW215/06/21 03:50 PM
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I think actual baby expenses are probably overstated too esp as they get out of the initial stages. It would be interesting to see how much single fathers spend compared to mothers on babies over the years.
/r/MGTOW15/06/21 03:42 PM
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My ex-wife always paid half too but that's an apples to oranges comparison. I did not want a pool but she did "for the kids". So being the good beta I was eventually I gave in. BUT, you can't just have a pool so you get a new enclosed back porch, stone wall around the pool, etc etc. So now it's $50k for everything. You know what....she paid half....of $50k. Which would have been $0 if it was just me. So I'm out $25k for something I rarely if ever would use. As you said there's so many little thi…
/r/MGTOW15/06/21 03:41 PM
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I'm the same way. I see and hear guys talk about their wife issues and it seems vaguely familiar. Like I was that person at one time I think... I guess...maybe. Actually I definitely was but there's no connection from the me now back to that guy. It's not like I worry or think about going back. There's literally no path between who I am now back to that guy.
/r/MGTOW15/06/21 01:39 AM
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It's VERY VERY difficult from what I've seen in churches to even bring up that Jesus was single. By choice. Like everything he did it has to mean something or all the other stuff he did means nothing. Then there is Paul. Single. By choice. Then there is the fact that the marriage advice (by todays standards) is horrific, misogynistic and just plain evil lol. I mean be a virgin....wtf. Stay loyal....no. Be submissive and raise children well....misogynistic. You can see anger in many churches to e…
/r/MGTOW11/06/21 12:29 PM
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Same when I was younger and was married with younger children. However, I noticed over the years that the "focus" in focus on the family was the guy. Which is fine but it's always the guy should try harder, be more, do better. It's fucking exhausting and I finally said f this I'm out. If it worked then tradcon-ism would be great. It doesn't work and will mentally and physically drain you and you will STILL most likely get no appreciation.
/r/MGTOW11/06/21 12:24 PM
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Same with women 40+... " i love being on the lake. I love boating" I always always ask "Where's your boat?" Silence. I mean if a guy likes boating he has a boat.
/r/MGTOW11/06/21 12:18 PM
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Started at 45 and no regrets. I lifted weights, ate well, did bjj and banged a lot of hot women (pua phase post-divorce). Still was tired and had joint pain. Got tested multiple times but mine was really low and getting on it made a world of difference. I've went through several doctors since until settling on a specialist that does remote consultations. PM me if you are interested. However, echoing others below....if you aren't hitting the weights, eating VERY well and doing interesting (outdoo…
/r/MGTOW210/06/21 10:16 AM
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Earlier this year in Ft. Lauderdale I worked out at a "gym" on the beach then walked for an hour or so. I loved it. First time ever doing it outside at a beach.
/r/MGTOW210/06/21 10:05 AM
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Forrest Gump was the first one I watched in 2013 after getting divorced where the WHOLE MOVIE seemed different. Lots of movies (almost all like you say) since then have been the same. Honestly, having raised two daughters I still like "kids" movies that are uncomplicated. Usually they have at least a decent hero's journey theme and no sjw mess in them.
/r/MGTOW210/06/21 10:01 AM
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2nd....modern women are the 1st :)
/r/MGTOW07/06/21 12:32 PM
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Lol, "just" a 15 lb'er but yes for a few seconds I was very very unhappy with myself. Even a 2 lb club could do some serious damage possibly fatal. The angle I was at made that seriously unlikely but it was a good lesson. I've just started to include them into my routine and won't be letting my attention wander again that's for sure.
/r/MGTOW05/06/21 04:09 PM
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Totally agree here. Security is where it's at. I have A+ N+,Sec+, CCNA, CCNP, F5 cert, vmware certs etc etc but if I was doing it now I would go with security over infrastructure like I've done. Infrastructure is quickly becoming a commodity that doesn't pay a premium. At 50 I'm not changing but a younger guy should stay away from it (imo).
/r/MGTOW205/06/21 10:51 AM
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Added your blog to my Feedly. I'm about 10 years younger than you but took a different path with 20 years of marriage. Last 10 have been fantastic being single though. I'm always interested in guys older than me and their ongoing experiences. With technology, drugs, etc getting more advanced we could be living single to 100+ years so having a purposeful and peaceful life the older you get is paramount.
/r/MGTOW205/06/21 10:46 AM
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Look Beta is a hierarchy thing. Betas literally built the world. Also, only women care about alphas vs. betas even if they don't know the terms. I was "beta" when I was married for 20 years but for the last 10 I am definitely more Sigma. My friends are Alpha and Beta males and I like it that way. Why do I care if they are Alpha or Beta though? I don't. I just tend to friend up Alphas more because Alphas tend not to be able to be friends with each other. Since my friends are all married or in LTR…
/r/MGTOW05/06/21 10:43 AM
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That sounds like a great plan to me. 50k in the right places is plenty to live well and 70-80+ will allow you to max 401k's, IRA's, etc easily. I got a similar training program at your age and then went back to college afterward while working. Having a 4 yr degree helped in a few places but certifications are what really propelled my career (in IT). At one time there was a mgtow named HandyManDan90 on this forum whom you could emulate somewhat. He talked about being competent and calm in his job…
/r/MGTOW05/06/21 10:32 AM
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I can't imagine the reaction of most men even these days and DEFINITELY me to being slapped awake.
/r/MGTOW05/06/21 10:04 AM
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"What's the most ridiculous thing you've been shouted at for recently?" ​ I shouted at myself just last week for not paying attention warming up with my Clubbell and it grazed my forehead. Does that count? :) ​ Another person shouting at me? Fuck no. Even my ex knew not to pull that.
/r/MGTOW05/06/21 10:03 AM
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Absolutely this. ALL I required from my ex wife years ago was to be faithful. Not happy, not content, not interested in sex, etc etc. Just one thing and she couldn't do it. And like you say it all felt natural. I can't imagine being that guy now. It makes me cringe.
/r/MGTOW05/06/21 01:50 AM
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It took me a while to get my recipes/times correct with mine. However, I agree its not like the real thing but I can consistently get really crispy veges out of mine which taste fantastic with just salt and pepper. Edit: I really only use mine for vegetables. Chopped in small chunks and crisped up. I havent found anything larger than 1 inch cubes of meat to be feasible. Maybe thats why those wings didn't turn out well.
/r/MGTOW203/06/21 02:45 PM
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Add in a simple air fryer and I think there's nothing you couldn't make that wasn't 5 star quality.
/r/MGTOW203/06/21 02:28 PM
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Yes i agree with all your points. Having been single for 10 years now the thought of me “supporting” someone just because we dated is abhorrent to me. I still do str’s but ive become even more disinterested in those so hopefully this situation never happens.
/r/MGTOW202/06/21 02:11 PM
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I've found the older I get (50 now) the easier this is. One reason is I can enjoy solitude (e.g. no shrill voices or "im bored") more and the other reason is there just aren't many men who will do this. The single ones are consumed with finding someone and the married ones lol....definitely not allowed.
/r/MGTOW02/06/21 12:40 PM
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In the past I've given serious thought to doing what you say IF the right woman ever appeared. That's never happened or even close but I guess it could. I even talked to a lawyer at one time where I live (many years ago) to make absolutely sure what that would mean plus asked about cohabitation. Luckily, none of that means shit here so I would be safe legally at least. Even with all of the above I still cant imagine living with a woman in a relationship.
/r/MGTOW202/06/21 12:33 PM
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I definitely agree with this. No need to get into some of the more esoteric differences between mgtow i.e. monk mode, pump and dump, etc. It's all good to argue between ourselves ( I love when mgtows tear apart my lifestyle) but those two major factors will avoid 99% of your trouble in life.
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 09:03 AM
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I am waiting on the wave of single dads finally getting custody if their kids are homeless......waiting....
/r/MGTOW28/05/21 11:13 PM
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Having been married for 20 years and single for 10 I can tell you any bachelor tax will be a joke compared to marriage fees. Some of this was kids sure but married I would guess 70-90% of my income was immediately earmarked away. Now 10 years later I rent a bedroom and office space in a large house. Pay 1/5th what it cost me in rent at one time. Save 50-70% of my income. A bachelor tax of even 10% (unlikely) wouldn't make me change my mind or most men I think.
/r/MGTOW24/05/21 06:41 PM
1

Definitely this. I've done various martial arts but to me bjj and boxing/mma really foster that closeness with other guys.
/r/MGTOW224/05/21 12:24 PM
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Notice that despite this horrific idea he implicitly knows women have no authority or responsibility. Children basically. The "source" of all authority is men.
/r/MGTOW24/05/21 09:16 AM
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Been involved with bjj off and on for about 7 years now (breaks for a few injuries). There are women especially at my newest gym but I actively avoid them. Martial arts in general are very masculine so I've never seen one last so far more than a few months. Bjj (at 50) has changed almost all of my other physical prep activities. I now do mobility, yoga and crossfit/tacfit type workouts that all keep me mobile and fit to do bjj. In turn I'm actually healthier because of doing all of that. I have …
/r/MGTOW224/05/21 09:11 AM
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All my hobbies can be fun with others or done alone. Over the years it's been more and more alone. Sometimes I'll bring an fwb along kayaking or similar but that's it. Getting a man in a relationship or married out to just "have fun" has proven impossible.
/r/MGTOW24/05/21 09:03 AM
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I'd say 50% of my coworkers have done this. So happy to work from home now so I don't have to hear their stories.
/r/MGTOW24/05/21 09:00 AM
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Maybe I was just unclear. Spinning plates (I just don't use that term) is exactly what I'm doing. It's just some of the plates last for years and years. Also, no marriage and no cohabitation are the basic fundamentals of mgtow. Everything else is up to the individual mgtow and totally acceptable. If I see individual women once every 2 weeks or so for an hour there's just no way I can see that somehow being mgtow incompatible unless you add some more rules that I don't agree with.
/r/MGTOW224/05/21 08:51 AM
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Yes yes yes. To me it's no relationship or open. I think a lot of guys even on here define relationship as meaning one strict definition and that's just not true. Relationships can mean lots of different things to different people. I just don't care what a woman is doing when she isn't with me. So why would I want to control (somehow magically) what she does and still claim I'm a mgtow. I just dont see the two coexisting,.
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 07:48 PM
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Yes exactly. I've been 10x more emotional over getting caught in a beginners bjj choke or missing a judo throw than sex.
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 07:44 PM
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Agree. Welcome to the incel brigade downvoting anything they don't like.
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 07:41 PM
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Denial of what? I'm the proponent of "open" relationships. I don't want to marry or cohabitate. I don't spend any money on women. I'm not sure what I'm denying. Maybe this is the incel brigade downvoting me. This is my way. I'm honestly open to what I'm denying here. Is not caring what women do when they aren't around me denying something? Are they somehow somewhere taking advantage of me?
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 07:33 PM
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Mostly. All are over 40 except one in her 20’s. I dont spend any money on them and have never really needed to. Thats why they are still around. Women your age or younger though are probably almost 100% looking for a beta to provide for them I would imagine.
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 05:38 PM
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Ok alpha chad 🙄
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 10:59 AM
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Same. Almost a utopian childhood. Mom and dad loved each other. Fought sometimes, mom sometimes was too emotional....you know...human stuff. Other than that I basically had zero worries until I was 18.
/r/MGTOW23/05/21 10:44 AM
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This is exactly what I do. I have multiple women I see semi-regularly. Some I invest more time in than others but none are in my life to the degree of influencing decisions. If I have a trip I want to take I'll ask one to go. Have fun then back to normal when I get back. It's definitely unreliable like you say but that's why I have more than one. It's pretty rare for all of them to be in "relationships" at one time. Most of these women I've known now for 5-8 years since I was first single so it'…
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 10:31 AM
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I don't agree with this at all. I'm very open with everyone I'm with at all times. It's very freeing to live this way. What do I care who she is with when not with me. Also, I'm older (50) so I'm with women typically 35+ so ymmv with younger girls. The women I know have children and jobs so their free time is usually VERY limited so once they know me they'd much rather spend some easy fun time with me than an unknown new guy. Maybe you mean more a long term relationship? Even there, I know women…
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 09:54 AM
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No brother. "cooking" and "gym" can be nothing or can be great like you describe. I swing kettlebells, clubbells, experiment with mobility, do some yoga, etc etc. I have a blast doing all of it. Cooking absolutely is a joy for me too. Marinating a piece of meat perfectly and sprinkling some herbs on it from my garden, air frying veges to perfect crisipiness, etc. is just so fulfilling. I can spend hours on a meal that takes 10 min to eat.
/r/MGTOW21/05/21 09:36 AM
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I have various ones now that I'm still developing. Physically it's kettlebells, weights etc. for general fitness. For fun it's bjj, hiking in cool weather and paddleboarding in warmer weather. Have a little garden at a friends house. If I ever buy another house (doubtful) I plan to have a massive garden again. I read a ton of scifi and closely follow bitcoin/crypto development. Honestly having female "friends" I see fairly regularly could be considered a hobby at the level I approach it. I also …
/r/MGTOW21/05/21 09:31 AM
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Same. It's always kinda sad when someone doesn't want to be alone but then I saw "remarried". 100% guarantee she was unhappppppppy and divorced him.
/r/MGTOW21/05/21 09:05 AM
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I was on the edge of changing to a lower paying job but after convincing my company to let me go remote 100% I decided to stay. I have a high paying IT job so some weeks are 60 hours and some weeks are 20 (of actual work). However, if for any reason they pushed to go back to an office I'd just say no. Then it would be their move to fire me or not.
/r/MGTOW221/05/21 09:02 AM
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Agree. I had the newest Bose ones a few years ago before working remotely full time. I was like no technology can overpower the shrill cackling. It was insane some days. On the flip side the main loud female wasn't malicious just loud. It's built in. That is one of the things I noticed immediately working from home. The silence.....so good.
/r/MGTOW21/05/21 08:56 AM
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Of course I was exaggerating but yeah I can imagine. I'm actually renting half a house from an older woman now so we are kinda roommates but there's good separation. I plan to do a post on it in 6-12 months. She has 2 cats she paid no attention to also and now they basically stay with me which im fine with but I also work from home full time so situation is different than yours.
/r/MGTOW220/05/21 01:05 PM
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Get rid of the gf and roommates....keep the cat.
/r/MGTOW220/05/21 12:12 PM
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I started trt in my early 40's. Best decision I ever made. I agree with your points but under a competent doctor I think the downsides are minimized. I would trade 10 years at the end of my life for how much better the last 10 years have been for me.
/r/MGTOW219/05/21 10:47 AM
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The partial reps is something I've been experimenting with on days where full range of motion just doesn't feel good. I do a full mobility routine daily so I'm not worried about "losing" flexibility or anything. This is a big change from 20 years ago when I was fully convinced that anything less than a full range of motion on every single exercise was the only way to do anything. Some days my elbows just arent happy so partial pullups, pushups etc allow me to exercise and get the blood flowing w…
/r/MGTOW219/05/21 10:44 AM
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That energy FUD from crypto is so idiotic. These same people support energy use everywhere else on the dumbest shit.
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 08:37 PM
1

Totally agree. Men can teach men only when they are ready. Women however will drag men thru literal hell on earth over and over and over until they are totally brutalized and.....ready for a man to teach them.
/r/MGTOW218/05/21 08:34 PM
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I told myself no just the other day to buying something. I threw a tantrum at myself but couldn't change it. So I made myself a nice dinner and a movie and that made it better. :-)
/r/MGTOW218/05/21 08:29 PM
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Well then my brother abused the fuck out of me growing up. I demand reparations!
/r/MGTOW218/05/21 08:27 PM
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"Most men in my educational/professional cohort want comfort, stability, predictability. I'm just a total aberration." Except....you are the one who will actually get that. Having been married for 20 and single for almost 10 I can tell you I have all 3 daily in whatever amount I want.
/r/MGTOW218/05/21 08:23 PM
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Yeah I agree that seems overwhelmingly likely that will happen.
/r/MGTOW218/05/21 07:52 PM
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If you want to pump and dump its gets MUCH easier the older you get. Go to walmart. That's average. After your 20's you'll be competing against slobs with no hobbies, fat and broke most likely too. By 40/50 it's over. You won. And if you don't want to date then even better. It's 100%/0% in your favor. :)
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 07:18 PM
1

You: That stove is hot and gonna burn you... Him: I think I'm good and can handle it. You then wait. Could be a month or years. All roads lead to mgtow.
/r/MGTOW218/05/21 07:15 PM
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Never ever go out to eat on a date. F that. I always just invite a woman to walk a nearby trail. If she says no then goodbye. Less/no makeup, see how fit they are, easier to talk , ZERO cost.
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 07:11 PM
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The MGTOW Solution is one I've read many times and listened to on youtube. The Unchained Man if you want a complete system although it's not strictly mgtow. The Handbook/Manual - Epictetus. The first paragraph contains more useable philosophy than most books ever written. Crypto - The Bitcoin Standard Diet - web. No books have really helped me more than reading forums. I'd say go high carb low fat or keto. I prefer keto much more but know quite a few people who make high carb work too.
/r/MGTOW218/05/21 06:53 PM
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1st "date" - walking a trail 2nd date -smash. Fuck a restaurant. And a bill.
/r/MGTOW218/05/21 06:37 PM
1

I'm willing to bet everything her weight starts with 2......
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 06:36 PM
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Otoh, some states like mine are all about 50/50 which still screws you if you earn a lot more than her but....I've seen the pain and heard the wailing from women I've been with when they had to share. Especially 50/50 custody which truly fucks up the money extraction from the man process. I love a good sob story from a woman who got "screwed" in her mind.
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 06:33 PM
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Yeah true. I guess i am talking out of my ass in that lol. It just enrages me that MEN take the chance on crypto and then have to give it up to someone who has no fucking clue.
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 06:26 PM
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Yes he does. So f off you hideous bitches. With a sufficient amount of crypto on a hardware wallet I'd risk jail time before I would reveal it. It can't be much jail since they won't know how much you have.
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 06:16 PM
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I've been thinking about a system where every part of your life is as antifragile as possible. The redpill/pua Blackdragon has a fairly well laid out plan but I feel its maybe too complicated for most guys. I've met him and he's very intelligent but also VERY INTJ and not everyone is like that. So far I have "fiat" and "antifragile" categories. Fiat being shit that sucks and is easily taken or fucked with. Antifragile. Maybe? Still working on it. Fiat - dollars, real estate (possible exceptions)…
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 12:16 PM
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I'm torn on my next step. I like semi rural places but like you said they are getting worse and worse. I'm considering just expatriating eventually too but that has it's own issues. Nomadic inside the USA is also a possibility. These exact issues are what drew me to cryptocurrencies way back. For me at my age mobility and some form of unhackable wealth storage are my 2 main issues. I recently downsized (again) and currently just rent an office (work remotely) and a bedroom/bathroom in a big hous…
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 12:00 PM
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These studies are no doubt funded by places supporting these policies. Look in the real world. Keeping your OWN money is always better than having it taken, taking a chunk for govt salaries, then giving it to someone else. This isn't even political. I'm talking real minority rights....individual rights. The smallest minority.
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 09:23 AM
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Yes. Plus as a mgtow you can voluntarily just....make less. Whatever rules they make you can get around them. Maybe not totally but enough to fuck the system. And the thing is men will do that red pill/mgtow or not. As the numbers of single men grow they will naturally adapt lifestyles that can't be taxed easily. It wouldn't be my choice but an easy example would be Big John on youtube living in an rv on a cheap piece of land. Making little but still saving 50%+ of that. I'm not sure where singl…
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 09:20 AM
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I don't think it's possible to tax single men specifically enough to make up for the massive drain a wife and kids are on you. Notice I didn't say "family". A family is where the wife is fully committed and contributes. So I fully agree with you.
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 09:14 AM
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Yes it's already a reverse bachelors tax like you say. However, as a bachelor you can still save so much and live so cheaply (and well!) that's it's worth it. I was married for 20 years and worked multiple jobs the whole time as well as my ex. I have much more disposable income now than I ever did back then. Those callously thrown around numbers about married men making more are so true. I was one of them. However, none of it is for you. It just feeds the insatiable clothes, house etc etc that y…
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 09:13 AM
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I would never have thought I would consider expatriating from the USA but it's actually on the table now. Once they decided to tax any crypto gains I make that was the last straw for me. Taking a gamble on a brand new technology along with 10k other geeks a decade ago was one of the best decisions I ever made. Now you want to tax it and give the money to anyone and everyone who can shoot out kids. No. I'll never get divorced again but I did learn some things from it. I'll treat this just like a …
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 09:03 AM
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I'll give a pass to older guys who got married maybe....pre 2000's. But esp since 2010 with the rise of social media and such a vast collection of pua, redpill and mgtow content...morons. I wish I had known any of this in the the early 90's when I got married very young. All I heard was go go do it mostly and the whole culture still revolved around it.
/r/MGTOW218/05/21 08:57 AM
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Mgtow :)
/r/MGTOW218/05/21 08:52 AM
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I would admit maybe I am "spoiled". I will only have sex with women now and little else. Even then, they have to be fit, pleasant to be around and able to have multiple orgasms easily. Is that spoiled? Maybe so. On top of that I do what I want all the time, have plenty of cash and savings to do it, peace and quiet at home and plenty of leftover time to cook for myself and stay very fit. So yeah, I am spoiled and I'm good with that. :) Are they desperate? ABSOLUTELY. They typically have none of t…
/r/MGTOW17/05/21 02:10 PM
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I wouldn't say full simp but last year I went through SEVERE withdrawals quitting caffeine and my emotions were all over the place. The fb I had at the time suddenly seemed much more important than she was to me. I had a few arguments with her (I never ever argue) and got concerned about her seeing other guys (I don't care). Even though I quickly pinpointed the issue it just showed me how far I have came since my true simp days being married for 20 years. Even the fb didn't like the change. Afte…
/r/MGTOW217/05/21 09:22 AM
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Almost every girl I've been with since I've been single (about 9 years now) has been in some type of relationship at some point and still easily having sex with me. I'd say 90% of them. Literally dozens of women. If that doesn't make you mgtow I don't know what will. It's not that women can't be trusted it's that PEOPLE can't be trusted when there is no cultural enforcement or consequences to doing this. All roads lead to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW14/05/21 02:40 PM
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I'd prefer neither. Someone like a Vention who preaches the benefits of mgtow like low stress, easy lifestyle, saving money, etc etc is more to my taste. Youtubers like that you could binge in a night and literally never watch a mgtow video again because you would have all the info you needed. Vention is even using his current horrific experience with cancer to help younger men. Find people like that is my .02.
/r/MGTOW214/05/21 12:12 AM
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My ex wife almost always out earned me but it never was an issue during most of our 20 years together. However, the other aspects of marriage....the nagging, the "im bored" conversations, the endless drudgery of suburban life, etc etc makes me say hell no even now. I know a few women who are very well off (usually widows or divorce rapers) and there is no way in hell I would MARRY them because of the above issues. Random friends with benefits sure. I've done it. Wealthy women are the easiest. Lo…
/r/MGTOW213/05/21 11:56 PM
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You are half my age so I feel its ok to do some stupid things...but....as long as you just follow general mgtow guidelines you'll be fine. Don't cohabitate and for the love of god don't get married. Everything else even stupid mistakes with women are recoverable. Stay focused on your career and keep saving. Getting to my age not married, debt free and millions in the bank is a wonderful feeling.
/r/MGTOW13/05/21 11:50 PM
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That's about walmart average here in the Southeastern USA....
/r/MGTOW213/05/21 02:43 PM
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Politely with respect and energy that exactly mirrors how she is treating me in any interaction. Just like I do with any man. Literally, for most women this is terrible. Ignoring women isn't the worst thing to do. Treating them as equals is. All roads lead to mgtow.
/r/MGTOW13/05/21 09:35 AM
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At least with btc and maybe eth/ltc or something totally new like Dfinity the train is still at the very beginning imo. Now maybe not 1000x gains like some have made in the past but 10x-100x...sure. Better than almost anything else at the moment.
/r/MGTOW08/05/21 12:06 PM
2

Yes. Always yes.
/r/MGTOW26/04/21 09:17 AM
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Probably like anyone selling a product they need to be a little over the top more than you as a normal person trying it would need to be. At the risk of incurring some backlash I see no reason mgtow's cant practice pickup ESPECIALLY if they never intend to follow thru with it. Nothing I've done has ever got my adrenaline flowing in quite the same was as walking up to a stranger and flirting. Nothing. Have I been more scared/anxious/etc? Sure. Military stuff, some high risk activities I've done, …
/r/MGTOW17/04/21 03:01 PM
2

https://saifedean.com/podcast/
/r/MGTOW16/04/21 12:17 PM
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My two favorites he ever interviewed were one man and one woman. Both in late 60's or early 70's. Just fantastic and happy seeming people. But when he interviews a morbidly obese 55 yr old woman who got divorced 20 years ago and "cant make it" on social security i just tune out now. Wtf were you doing for the last 20 years. And yep, exactly right on the the two ravens. :-)
/r/MGTOW05/04/21 08:25 PM
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Imo for trading own whatever cryptos are hot. I'm not a trader so I hold bitcoin only. To start just use an exchange until you have a decent amount (decent being whatever you feel). Then get a hardware wallet. If you TRULY want hack proof security then do this: Get a Coldcard wallet. This literally never has to be plugged into a pc. You transfer a micro SD card back and forth when needed. I dont know how much better it can get than this. Get a "seed card" like CryptoTag. Engrave your recovery ph…
/r/MGTOW205/04/21 12:35 AM
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I love Bob and he's done a real service for someone wanting to live that lifestyle. So many times he simps for women though that it's painful to see. From years of following him and others seems 95% of men end up there because they plan and want to do it. Flip that number completely for women.
/r/MGTOW05/04/21 12:13 AM
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He opened up to women. That was his mistake. I've opened up here before on many subjects. My divorce, dating again, cryptocurrencies, etc etc. Not everyone agreed and sometimes it got heated. However, no one said I should leave.... No one said I was unlovable.... No one said I was too old or too young or too broke or too white or too black or too alt-right or too sjw. All roads lead to mgtow. He will find us and be welcomed. Then there's no going back. The plantation has one more empty seat that…
/r/MGTOW29/03/21 09:04 AM
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I hadn't really thought about freedom in that sense. I think the key would be to have wealth saved. Then you could go for some time without income of any sort also. Although in your example you wouldn't even need that. Plus, from knowing some people in construction trades you could be painting within hours of showing up and saying you are a painter almost anywhere these days.
/r/MGTOW229/03/21 08:57 AM
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I know it causes anger in some people but think about crypto. Just do the above and slowly buy in such a way it never shows up in any account. It's fairly simple to research and do. Have a friend buy a cold wallet to store it offline. You just need to take a long view and realize this could take years to exit gracefully. Still better than shit blowing up one day, getting a divorce and not having shit to your name.
/r/MGTOW217/03/21 08:04 PM
1

Compared to a big city I would say yes. I go to the local medium sized city here and I get panhandled, homeless people tweaking wandering around, etc etc. That's not peaceful to me at all.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 08:01 PM
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I lived outside of a small town about the same size. Total and complete privacy in the country. The few neighbors I did have I did the same as you. Probably the best setup a mgtow could have. I've never understood the hate on small towns. Just don't live IN the small town. Problem solved. Plus big cities are rarely more than an hour or two away. You could go every single weekend to get some "culture" if you wanted. Imo, f that but I guess some people just love bigger cities.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 07:59 PM
2

But buuuuuutttt someone told me in another comment thread that marriage is a “life contract”...Surely Chad is still happy because its not about anything physical.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 07:20 PM
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Well, we will need to disagree here. I believe the consent part is just part of a bigger argument. I don't believe one is some super special category that has nothing to do with anything else. Also, "I do" means something to me. If not, it means nothing.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 09:21 AM
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Yeah, it would be so hard there. Because no wouldn't just mean no. It would mean breaking up a huge part of your life probably permanently. I still believe all roads lead to mgtow though no matter where it starts. Even in India there has to be a limit where guy says f it. Even if it's just not getting married again after divorce rape.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 09:18 AM
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This is being honest. Does a marriage partner have free access to your body? It goes both ways and isn't just about sex. Attention mgtows reading this (which is who i'm writing for). This is how the other side argues. Men (esp young men) go work all day. Boss is an asshole. Job is hard physically or intellectually. Comes home and wants sex. Wife says no. If he proceeds it's rape. In the house he produced with his body. Driving cars produced by his body. Wearing clothes produced by his body. She …
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 09:13 AM
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Of course. She will be using my money and resources DAILY which I can only acquire with my meat body and brain.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 09:04 AM
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Does the husband need to say Yes every day to someone else using his money and resources? Pretty sure I know the answer.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 09:02 AM
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Again, the simple power of no would be earth shattering to these people. No, I don't want to get married. No, I will live my own life. No, I will not submit. I can't imagine how hard it is to say no though in a society like that. It's hard enough here in the west.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 09:02 AM
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Yes, consent is affirmative...like saying "I do"....clown world.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 09:00 AM
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It's hard to predict. Honestly, all I see of the over 35-40 divorced men crowd is they run right back into another relationship and get married. So they serve as a clear warning to younger men at least. For you younger guys it seems fantastic to me. Like almost all pluses and no negatives. Better technology, healthcare etc. Crypto blockchains to escape fiat money and protect your wealth while remaining quasi-anonymous. Better information regarding low carb and intermittent fasting for basically …
/r/MGTOW217/03/21 12:35 AM
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I'll never understand this type of thinking these days. Go have the love of your life. Just dont sign a piece of paper to do it. If you have to do that....maybe it's about more than love for her...
/r/MGTOW217/03/21 12:13 AM
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It's funny but my brother and I discussed that at one time. To each other. He was like all we have to do is get a sheet of paper, no one knows and we save on taxes! If this happens then f it, I'll do it.
/r/MGTOW215/03/21 09:01 PM
2

I think many of these are happening now and some of our cultures reaction to it is getting more apparent (in the USA). I'm not into the bar scene but I hear from friends it's nothing like even 10-15 years ago. However, women I know decent looking post-40 still can easily go get pumped and dumped but are increasingly bitter about it lol. Good. Fuck all that child labor and male labor to buy that shit. My daughters and I exchange a meal. No woman gets anything on this holiday. Not sure. I'm so out…
/r/MGTOW215/03/21 09:12 AM
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\<sup>\</sup>^ This. Andreas is a great teacher. https://youtu.be/stN03wk_Wzs
/r/MGTOW207/03/21 05:47 PM
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I've been giving this a lot of thought lately. I've cut a few family connections in my life that were so draining over the years. I've realized that there's something in me that actually kinda likes when people fly off the handle. I'm great at ghosting women when this happens but I always let family get away with it. For the last 6 months or so the Nomad Capitalist mantra of "Go where you are treated best" has really resonated with me. I've been applying that in all areas of my life much more co…
/r/MGTOW207/03/21 11:53 AM
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the et al is because she's clearly overweight. Needed to add that for sure....
/r/MGTOW04/03/21 08:18 PM
1

I guess it's just different peoples experiences but I just went to Key West last week and i thought it was terrible. Tons of people, traffic was horrible and there didn't seem to be much to do except go to bars. However, I was only there for one day so maybe I just didn't get to soak up the full vibe. I enjoyed Marathon though. However, i'm not into nightlife and bars so maybe that's the difference. Riding bikes everywhere and kayaking were more my thing.
/r/MGTOW03/03/21 10:43 AM
1

Well, it's USA but I just got back from working my way down the Florida coast for 3 weeks. Daytona, West Palm beach, Ft. Lauderdale and then a week in the Keys (Marathon). I really enjoyed it and the beaches were almost deserted despite weather in the 80's daily. I worked the whole time so got up and walked the beach in the morning, worked out either in my room or at a local gym during lunch and then relaxed after work sometimes at the beach again. Airbnb's are pretty cheap esp if you don't stay…
/r/MGTOW03/03/21 10:39 AM
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I got thru periods where I cook everything 100% from scratch even sauces. Then I can go for months esp when traveling when I eat frozen meals (Lean Cuisines) and drink Michelob Ultras every night. Honestly, I don't see much difference in how I feel normally or when working out either way. However, I never overeat, always exercise and have a strict routine I follow daily. A woman's touch lol....It's easy to go without but no need to. So many single and divorced lonely women out there. I agree the…
/r/MGTOW203/03/21 02:28 AM
2

Oh I get you. I've been telling anyone and everyone since 2013 to just get some....any...the tiniest amount. Family, co-workers, friends....I've had MANY come to me now saying they wish that they had bought some. I have no mercy on them and just tell them they were stupid. My boss almost bought some at $100 and just kept putting it off and then finally was like it's too much now ($150) and proceeded to explain it was probably a scam anyway. I make sure to casually mention prices to him every tim…
/r/MGTOW216/02/21 01:07 PM
1

I guess I'm a little more forgiving of young/new investors. Buying some land, gold, etc is also a good start. Despite being a bitcoin maximalist myself there is a whole world out there with plenty of things that have value. I think the hardest part of investing is just starting. It was for me. So the easy on ramp for many guys I suspect will not be crypto. Just as all roads lead to mgtow I think investors will eventually come to bitcoin but I definitely won't be one to call someone new an idiot …
/r/MGTOW216/02/21 10:12 AM
1

I woke up at a womans house. She made coffee and told me happy vday. I told her the same thing. Later, I went to my daughters apartment and wished them both a happy vday. I think it's ok to "celebrate" it but not go overboard. Sometimes I'll even buy gifts sometimes but mostly for my kids. And not every year.
/r/MGTOW16/02/21 12:20 AM
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100% agree with you. As bitcoin keeps increasing i'm edging into almost 7 figures with it since I bought in 2012/2013. I have zero other cryptos. I love some others but for different uses - eth for apps, monero for anonymity and dfinity (one day) for a blockchain computer. For a store of value though....its bitcoin all the way. I just feel its difficult to convince beginning investors/younger guys to put all their wealth into a crypto.
/r/MGTOW216/02/21 12:02 AM
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Male friends have always been hard to come by for me also. Wealth is a little different imo. Buy some gold or land or crypto (or hell even furniture or something similar) and you have "wealth". Since I've been single wealth creation has seemed to just happen since I'm not buying stupid shit constantly just because I can.
/r/MGTOW215/02/21 11:45 AM
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Plan b,c and d are fine until you hit 70. After about 40ish you should at least store some of that energy/time as wealth. Wealth can be anything - gold, cash, land, crypto....but just something. Sounds like when you say "lost it all" you have already accumulated something so your actions tend to agree with accumulating some wealth already.
/r/MGTOW215/02/21 11:41 AM
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I agree with all of these. I eat strictly 98% of the time. I vary between 5-6x strict meals and omad but I'm never overindulging continuously. I have a kettlebell and 2 dumbbells. That's enough to achieve an unbelievably high level of (real) fitness where you can do any activity you want 24x7 and enjoy it. This one is much more important to me at 50 than it was at 30 for some reason. I travel now when I want and go where I want. It's also highly dependent on the above and the point below. So imp…
/r/MGTOW215/02/21 11:38 AM
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I've had all of that and meh....It's not good or bad. My eyes do dart towards faces/tits quite often. However, they dart just as much to beautiful cars, sunsets and a perfect ribeye on sale. I also love the way a trail smells early in the morning, the way the water ran off my kids when I gave them a bath as little babies and how a beautiful woman's flat stomach curves into her hips. It's all good. Like you imply somewhat, balance is the key. I don't want to stop appreciating women the same way I…
/r/MGTOW214/02/21 10:40 PM
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I bought bitcoin way back in 2013 and held on. However, I bought others along the way too and did ok with them. About 1 year ago I was basically dragged kicking and screaming into being a bitcoin maximalist. Listening to podcasts, rereading Satoshi's whitepaper (it's fantastic and inspiring) and just thinking deeply about what crypto/blockchain meant changed my mind eventually and now I'm 100% into bitcoin for the long term. That's not to say other blockchains don't have uses of course. I like e…
/r/MGTOW13/02/21 10:38 AM
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What's interesting is I totally agree with the best sex part.....for a fb/fwb. I've experienced that over and over. But wife....no fucking way. Never. I've had plenty of women who gave pornstar level blowjobs, threesomes any time, etc and I enjoyed every minute of it. THEN I LEFT and went home. The end.
/r/MGTOW13/02/21 10:33 AM
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If I'm the 20th person in line at the grocery store before it closes it doesn't mean the cashier thinks I'm better. It just means I'm last, she's tired and the store is about to close....
/r/MGTOW13/02/21 10:30 AM
2

Why make it an all or nothing question? You are most likely a young guy so it will be harder than an older guy like me (50) but why not have a woman. Then another. Then another. Just short term "relationships" that serve the purpose of keeping you balanced mentally until you find a purpose. This is not a popular opinion on this sub but I've been doing it for years without much issue. Set boundaries and when the woman exceeds them (and she will) stop seeing her. Find another. Repeat. If you follo…
/r/MGTOW210/02/21 10:19 AM
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Since I've been single for so long now at 50 there are more and more times when that bothers me now. Men could stop all of this instantly. Literally instantly. Just "No." That's all it would take. What's funny/not funny though is all the married guys I know ACTIVELY look down on me and my lifestyle. I'm debt free with 7 figures in savings, travel often and have str's/fb's when I want them. Yet, there are always comments about how I live. And not jealousy ones either...like they really think I'm …
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 10:21 AM
1

Having been married for 20 years and single for almost 10 I'd say there is no downside to the single lifestyle. I've moved 4 times now to different apartments and bought/sold a house during my single time. In every possible way it's better. Paying all your "own" bills sounds like a negative until you factor in how much more it costs when a woman is around. My ex-wife was actually fairly frugal and not crazy and still....it just magically somehow cost way more than double when married. I was alre…
/r/MGTOW209/02/21 12:35 AM
1

Gold is real money. Bitcoin is even moreso real money. When someone "comes after you" do you want pounds and pounds of easily accessible gold in your safe at home or a cold wallet for crypto that isn't easily found? I like the idea of gold but the physical weight and aggravation of it makes me love crypto. However, this is an argument that boils down to emotion. Some love gold and some love crypto.
/r/MGTOW208/02/21 12:30 AM
4

Without such fantastic MGTOW Recruiters we simply would not have the numbers we do. A specimen such as you had will recruit many more our way. And we will welcome every single one with open arms. You MIGHT go back to the plantation once mgtow for short periods but as I've stated many times all roads lead to mgtow now.
/r/MGTOW30/01/21 04:14 AM
3

Never married women 18-64....$210. I mean wtf. 46 years old and $210...I had that much at 15 good grief.
/r/MGTOW17/01/21 10:05 PM
1

I wonder if this is true. Not the " socialist, liberal hellhole, and plus the destruction of the economy, and jobs gone" part. That's definitely coming. The part I've been really thinking over lately is if almost any of this will affect me as a mgtow. Or I guess a better way to say it would I can minimize any effect easily. I think if big govt people are in charge one simple solution would be to get a govt job. Or contract for the govt. Work a boring half-ass job and collect dollars. Between fed…
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 05:53 PM
5

At least you talk to your friend. The main one I have can only text basically. Which is fine but I wish we could hang out. I asked about a year ago to just hang out one night and chill. He replied he would only do that if we went to a "titty bar" because if he was going to get in trouble anyway it needed to be worth it. I won't be asking again. That's a level of thinking that I can't even imagine having.
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 05:35 PM
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Almost every woman I've ever dated or been friends with wanted to "get married". Think about that statement. Not be married or have a relationship or stay married. "Get married". It's a goal that needs a man shaped space to achieve. It implies no duration. It implies no quality of life. It can be done in one day and undone at any time. All it needs is you. Or another guy. Or some other guy. Don't be that guy.
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 11:11 AM
4

I've often wondered if there is any way to make communities of men together. I've watched documentaries of monks and.... they seem so fucking happy all the time. Living simple lives, not chasing women, in community with other men. They have so much extra time by doing that they make all kinds of world class things. Beer, cheese, etc etc. I live alone and household maintenance is a joke without women. I've even added cleaning to my "yoga" routine so it's just part of my daily routine now. 5, 10 o…
/r/MGTOW209/01/21 12:32 PM
2

Easy, quick and painless. I had a female cousin in the hospital who kept coming in commenting on how small everything was (the room was freezing cold) lol. She kept me distracted which was the whole purpose but honestly I didn't need it. That was just her being family/funny.
/r/MGTOW209/01/21 12:20 PM
2

Bars and gyms are small businesses....
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 11:36 AM
3

I've noticed almost everyone supporting these measures is still getting a paycheck. It would be interesting to see if the above poster is. Almost guarantee yes.
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 11:35 AM
1

Dude no. There are millions of women who are ok with < 6 ft. There are millions of women who PREFER bald men. Don't justify being depressed about having to overcome what MAY be an obstacle or may not. Life is hard enough without making up more shit to make it harder. Move near a city. Literally so many women you could meet 10/day and never run out. Next....you are 19. Your whole life is before you. Find some cheap hobbies, get super fit at home or the gym, pick a career field with low stress and…
/r/MGTOW209/01/21 11:19 AM
2

Check out Epicureanism also. TRUE epicureanism not the way the word is used now. It's a 100% positive philosophy that's easy to implement and scale.
/r/MGTOW209/01/21 11:13 AM
2

I'm currently trying to stay as mobile and liquid as possible. I sold my house a couple of years ago and rented ever since. About to try to find a SMALL place to use as a homebase and travel. That's one way I can think of. Being tied down when they raise local property taxes for things I don't support is aggravating. I'd say use crypto but you won't escape taxes unless you truly just use it directly wallet-to-wallet. Minimalism obviously also. Not buying is even better than stealing (and i know …
/r/MGTOW08/01/21 03:58 PM
2

True but depending on where you live a lifetime purchase of hiking poles, a kayak, paddleboard and maybe skis/snowboard wouldn't set you back too much esp used.
/r/MGTOW08/01/21 03:49 PM
3

I'm always truthful but I don't reveal everything at first. Why would I? This is a stranger until I get to know her better. I don't tell strangers all my business. Women (as human beings) won't always tell you the whole truth either. It's a rare woman who will say they want to take your relationship to level 10, move in together, get married, have/support kids, etc etc. Even though this is what 99% of women want. I date/str women almost exclusively over 40 and they have ALL been like this. Once …
/r/MGTOW08/01/21 10:08 AM
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I am 50 this year and some days I can barely get up because I saved enough to retire early if I want. I'm in the best shape of my life and have all the money I need if I break something and need surgery. I have plenty of women and am happy almost all the time. Almost every women I'm attracted to is attracted back to me. From ages 35-50 women who are ok with str's are everywhere. I become more and more content almost every day because I'm so grateful I'm still here and getting older. Let me add t…
/r/MGTOW07/01/21 10:15 AM
1

I also use my Roth as my emergency fund. Never in 30 years have I had to use my emergency fund so why not let it sit and grow tax free. In a true emergency I can pull out my contributions at any time tax free.
/r/MGTOW02/01/21 01:40 PM
1

^^ Truth.
/r/MGTOW30/12/20 11:00 PM
2

The older gay guys I've known seemed to have awesome relationships. The lesbians I've known all seemed to have mental issues and terrible relationships for some reason. I have no platonic relationships with women except my daughters. Only short term romantic ones. Yes. My mom can't stand it and is still hoping I'll find a "good woman" at 50....Initially my mom and stepfather thought it was a phase. Now they think its ridiculous despite their own relationship being shit. Mtn biking, paddleboardin…
/r/MGTOW230/12/20 10:56 PM
1

2nd season to me was a total boring shitshow. A bad western with worse acting. However, that phrase is awesome and I'll use it sometimes also.
/r/MGTOW230/12/20 10:17 PM
5

I guess that would make me a freelancer. I decide when, how much and where i want employment. I decide if the prospective employers pay and benefits package is good enough. The employer has no idea if I'm also doing work for others. I can leave the employer at any time for any reason. A single man can make sweet sweet lemonade out of almost any kinds of lemons....
/r/MGTOW30/12/20 07:04 PM
2

This is a self-perpetuating cycle now I think. As there are fewer marriages going forward and more divorces mgtow becomes self-evident. The marriages get worse and the divorces more acrimonious. For young men and guys considering getting married again it's out in plain sight now. I'd say at least half of the women i've had relationships (short) over the last 8 years are bitter and have no issues telling you what pieces of shit men are. Now, I'm not looking for anything serious again so I just en…
/r/MGTOW30/12/20 04:12 PM
7

So just go write your article that we're all a bunch of fat, ugly, divorced, miserable, poor, misogynistic, incel men, living in our mom's basement, who can't get laid and can be happily mocked and disregarded. Me me me. I definitely should be disregarded. I wish I would be so disregarded I didn't even have to pay taxes.
/r/MGTOW228/12/20 11:56 PM
3

This hurts me so fucking bad....I bought mine right after my divorce was final in 2012/2013 and THANK GOD I did. I have no doubt if my ex knew about them she would have gone after them if I had bought them sooner. No woman will be getting one cent of my gains from them now.
/r/MGTOW28/12/20 11:49 PM
1

10 years from white to black typically.
/r/MGTOW228/12/20 11:23 PM
10

So men are more unhappy at work and with their spouse then women are. Shocking! We get 10x the amount of work done and get more loaded onto us in both situations.
/r/MGTOW28/12/20 01:14 PM
2

I disagree but not totally. I think you are somewhat applying male standards to the top 20%. Most women can't even understand what I do (cloud based IT stuff) and could give a shit less. Some of it is geographic/situational also. I consider myself EASILY in the top 20% for men in my age group. I'm extremely fit, financially stable, completely independent and have plenty of confidence. Where I am and probably anywhere in the USA this alone will put you in the top 10% maybe even the top 1%. These …
/r/MGTOW28/12/20 12:59 PM
9

50 and got mine at 29. I had a couple years of ball pain but it turned out i had a lingering infection. Should have just went right back and got antibiotics sooner. Cleared right up. Other than that, no issues. Best decision ever.
/r/MGTOW228/12/20 01:51 AM
3

I was raised to pay the first date and most afterward. In todays climate though...I've went on numerous first "dates" over the last 2-3 years. I paid for all of them....coffee. So I was out at most about $1.50. I'd say half I invited to a local trail for 2-3 hours of hiking. Even better. Free. I'm 50 and do short term with 40-somethings. If I can do free to $2 dates anyone can.
/r/MGTOW28/12/20 01:44 AM
1

This. Just like we know in 30 seconds.
/r/MGTOW28/12/20 01:39 AM
2

No. Going your own way will result in you being top 20% if you take really good care of yourself i.e. finances, nutrition and fitness. Then if you want women for STR they will be out there. If not, even better. You'll be top 20% either way.
/r/MGTOW28/12/20 01:37 AM
65

Dicked around and bought some stupid "bitcoin" shit in 2012 maybe lol...
/r/MGTOW28/12/20 01:30 AM
3

I know its extreme but can you just John Galt it and say no? Like literally, just stop working or doing anything. Even if it means jail or something similar. I know that's extreme but in the end you always have the option just.....stop.
/r/MGTOW25/12/20 10:47 PM
5

Hedge your bets on it. I personally bought a bunch back in 2012. Since then I've gotten a car and truck for "free" by selling some of mine. I sold some more when it hit $18k this year. I'll hold onto the rest until/if it hits $30k then sell those. Why not buy some low number like 10% of your savings (or even 1%) over time? Then if it hits $100k great. If not, you really aren't out of much if any. You are probably looking at years before it would hit $100k+ even if it does become useful as a stor…
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 12:41 PM
1

Capitalism prevents free markets? Capitalism is the only way free markets have ever existed in the history of the world. Any time one person/group FREELY exchanges time/money/value with another group....that's capitalism. Value for value. I think like the poster above said you are taking a twisted corporatist system we have and calling it "capitalism". If capitalism was truly zero sum then "capital" could not be created. That's literally what capital is. Wealth in some form that produces value t…
/r/MGTOW221/12/20 10:41 PM
1

No. Not all of them. I can guarantee you the poster below works for money. He exchanges knowledge/skills for cash. Anyone with specialized knowledge can do this. PUA is no different. Anyone who says it is will somehow claim what they do for a living is "different". It isn't. Money is exchanged for value. Now, can some PUA's be scammers? Of course. Some IT engineers are scammers, some businesses are scams, etc etc. I can guarantee my VERY specific IT cloud knowledge is out there "for free" in hel…
/r/MGTOW216/12/20 11:28 PM
5

That neck is looking THICK....that ass ain't juicy. It's fat.
/r/MGTOW216/12/20 08:44 PM
1

That's exactly the way I do it. Totally online with a doctor all the way across the country. Labwork is done locally. All shipped to my house. $200/month all-inclusive consultations and all.
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 06:52 PM
1

So if you remain Muslim are there avenues to just refuse and stay single? Or is the family/culture pressure just so much that even you would give in eventually? Mostly I'm just wondering what happens to a flat No and not getting married. It's so different here in the West I have no idea.
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 06:42 PM
1

I was for years what I would consider a pure Libertarian. I eventually had to gmow because of their stance on immigration/borders and abortion. I've also swung to considering universal healthcare/single payer a decent solution to a problem that keeps getting worse and worse. I think in a utopian world where everyone had 130+ IQ's and considered all the issues then libertarianism might work. We do not live in that world.
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 08:30 AM
3

One meal a day OMAD- add in a crockpot/instant pot like another commenter mentioned. I don't know how much easier cooking and maintaining a lean body can be. A routine along the lines of Don Wildman's The Circuit. Do it 1-3x week and you are fit enough to do any activity you could possibly want at any time. No complicated programs just effort. Permanent Portfolio for investing. Takes all the emotion out. I've been doing it for 30+ years.
/r/MGTOW209/12/20 01:25 AM
2

Yes! So much this. ​ So simple yet it will NEVER be considered.
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 12:50 AM
6

The older I've gotten the less I can keep the look of disdain off my face as a 22 yr old "trainer" puts an out of shape 50 yr old woman through workouts that are terrible. Stability balls, plyometric exercises, etc etc. Good basic strength and bodybuilding exercises are what they need. They don't even have to be hard.
/r/MGTOW07/12/20 10:58 PM
2

Examples are all pretty much men. Those bastards!! Those sweet never-ghosting women used and abused by those callous uncouth MEN!
/r/MGTOW07/12/20 10:54 PM
2

I work at a place that goes 150% out of its way to hire women for ANY IT position especially coding. Currently we have maybe 4-5 women out of 100 developers. All of them are Indian either 1st gen or 2nd. "American" women...give me a fucking break.
/r/MGTOW07/12/20 10:50 PM
1

Cooked some chili and cornbread from scratch. That's my go to omad meal when I don't want to cook. I make a ton of both and freeze it. I tried Don Wildman's "worlds hardest workout". I actually really liked it. Much more than I thought I would. 2 hours flew by. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a4737/the-circuit-workout/ That will help me a lot in the coming years (I'm 50) to keep up hiking, paddling, etc. I wish I had read about it a few years back. Good job on the fasts. 24 hours is all I'…
/r/MGTOW207/12/20 09:13 PM
1

I've varied between 4-6 meals/day and OMAD for years depending on my mood. Zero difference as far a I could tell related to muscle. Plus it seems to me logically that your body would do the exact opposite of what you state. Your body stores fat for energy and can easily convert it. Muscle is valuable (for getting more food) and hard to convert to energy. It makes sense your body would use the source it stored specifically for when calories are low.
/r/MGTOW207/12/20 09:00 PM
1

You found a real life mgtow recruiter! So lucky to have witnessed it in person.
/r/MGTOW205/12/20 09:17 PM
3

Well, I was married for 20 years with kids....so, painful and about 10 years in lol.
/r/MGTOW01/12/20 09:35 PM
6

Utter bullshit. Get a grip on yourself. Make minimal efforts to ghost and be normally polite at work and in public. There are plenty of jobs where this doesn't happen. If this IS happening all the time it's your fault.
/r/MGTOW201/12/20 09:31 PM
3

Not wanting is just as good as having. - Seneca
/r/MGTOW01/12/20 10:01 AM
2

FUUUUUCKKKK. Also, " its just a culture thing to stop having sex"....That's every culture lol.
/r/MGTOW230/11/20 11:05 PM
8

I can guarantee you that an article on Casual "acts of kindness" such as buying gifts, dinners/food or helping with manual tasks like moving furniture would be considered ok from a womans viewpoint. Even if the man understood that sex would be forthcoming but the woman didn't this would be perfectly fine. Woman didn't want the culture where casual sex was almost impossible except in highly specific circumstances. So they got EXACTLY what they wanted. Good and hard. Literally in this case. Mgtow …
/r/MGTOW30/11/20 12:23 AM
1

Good job for calling in. I'm not in agreement with the never talk about MGTOW crowd. There's a time and place for everything. And remember you weren't trying to convince him/her. You presented the lifestyle and tenets for all the guys listening/who will listen. Some number of those at some point will say fuck this culture and fuck women taking advantage of them. They will remember mgtow and come our way. We don't recruit for mgtow, women do. However, you basically put up a sign saying "Look...hi…
/r/MGTOW229/11/20 07:28 PM
11

You are venturing into mens rights fantasies....and that's what they are. Fantasies. I can guarantee that except in the most seriously fucked up repressive societies that marriage still sucks ass under all the conditions you've outlined. Hard mode: fantasize or even worse fight the powers that be to make it like you say. Easy peaceful mode: Gyow. Entirely avoid women or do like I do and engage multiple women in strictly defined terms. Ghost when necessary.
/r/MGTOW28/11/20 10:59 AM
1

Literally everything gets better. Not in a day or a week but it will happen. It takes a while to process the pain/grief of all that stress you were under. Once you do then one day the feeling of freedom will hit you. Grieve a little that something you hoped would work did not. It's natural. Don't give in to the feelings of inevitable loneliness since you were used to living with someone. That ends as well. Good luck brother.
/r/MGTOW227/11/20 11:00 PM
3

No no no. I see women who have kids. Not the other stuff though. Why would I give one fuck? I don't interact with her kids. I don't much care why she is a single mom. I have hard boundaries on the behavior I'll accept. If she exceeds those boundaries (and they do often) I simply ghost for a while. Easy, simple and supplies maximum peace in my life with very minimal effort. However, I have done what you say in the past way back when I was first single. TOTAL waste of effort. It didn't change one …
/r/MGTOW27/11/20 11:36 AM
2

I'm assuming you mean 5x week?? Either way, great results! I've always thought OMAD was very simple and so easy to incorporate into any lifestyle including travel.
/r/MGTOW26/11/20 02:25 PM
1

Yep, thats it.
/r/MGTOW224/11/20 07:00 PM
1

There's a whole short story that basically explores this from the 1800's. Bartleby. "I prefer not to" from the main character is pretty much the same as why bother...
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 10:42 PM
4

I have a love/hate relationship with feminism. For SOCIETY feminism is a terrible and nation destroying disease. It's transferring assets away from productive people (men) to non-productive people (women). Or worse to women that are actively working to make things worse. It's made men into second class citizens as a group and destroyed the family. It contributed to my divorce many years ago For ME though it has been and continues to be a massive positive. It's made me free in a way past generati…
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 09:37 AM
2

Sex is important to me only if I could never have it when I wanted it. In my 50's now that's a lot less than it used to be. I've never seen the problem with satisfying the urge weekly. In today's culture sex is everywhere and easier to get than ever. Yes, you do have to put some "effort" into it but a self respecting man should be well groomed, fit and work on charisma anyway. Not to attract women but just as an optimal human being. These same traits will allow you to get sex as much as you need…
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 09:29 AM
5

I've seen that personally happen at my job. One programmer in particular. Early 40's, super fit, DD's and extroverted. Believed (and told me) she was one of "the best coders" she'd ever knew. Within 6 weeks of 100% wfh she was let go. Turns out she was contributing basically zero and the guys at work were carrying her weight because white knights.... I actually wondered if this theme was going to be widespread.
/r/MGTOW23/11/20 09:15 AM
1

You haven't failed. Luckily, I didn't go thru this with either of my daughters since both are too introverted to consider it. Otherwise, I have little doubt my oldest (6 foot tall and beautiful) would have done it. You can only show them the path. They have to walk it and in todays culture everyone except you is telling them to do it. Also, as I always said to mine once they were 18...you can do anything you want but I don't have to finance it. At some point you might have to stop enabling the b…
/r/MGTOW20/11/20 08:17 PM
1

I'd echo another poster about making the book too diverse with too many subjects. However, short concise chapters with all your topics might work. Something along the lines of Going Your Own Way Financially Going Your Own Way with Health Going Your Own Way From Society etc etc.
/r/MGTOW220/11/20 09:05 AM
33

postdoc so....living in the most expensive city in the world and still making basically no money.
/r/MGTOW18/11/20 01:18 PM
3

Exactly my experience. I dated a redhead who was 40 and imo was still a solid 8.5. Divorced twice with 2 military 1/2 retirements from the ex-husbands (which is fucked up but that's a different story) and STILL wanted to "be taken care of". She actually became visibly upset when I told her I paid off my house because I always made her pay half of everything. She immediately got married to another retired officer after we finally stopped seeing each other. Some guys never learn.
/r/MGTOW18/11/20 09:22 AM
1

All except one who had never been married and no kids. Out of all of them she was I think the only one who legitimately earned and saved her way to independence. I still see her every few months at her place. I've known her for about 5 years now and her happiness level has went down every single year. She's my age (50) and it's interesting to see the differences between us. As I've grown more content she's grown less. I've noticed and might do a post about 50 for men and women. As a man at 50 I …
/r/MGTOW18/11/20 09:19 AM
22

I've met a few. 40+, fully financially independent, still looking good too. All were unhappy.
/r/MGTOW18/11/20 12:15 AM
3

Anything which they don't like is White Supremacy. This message of individual freedom and self determination without consulting women's needs has to be one of the most deep down terrifying things they've ever seen pop up. It must be thought controlled as much as possible. 100's of thousands of black guys caught up in the ridiculous and emasculating matriarchy shit they have to deal with must be kept in the dark. Easiest way they think to do it : WHITE SUPREMACY!!! There's only one thing that mak…
/r/MGTOW217/11/20 06:43 PM
4

There's a ton of ruin left in the USA. By that I mean massive amounts of resources, technology and smart people. So even if things go downhill you should be able to take advantage of it or at least avoid the worst. The best way to do this imo is to keep the ability to be mobile. Rent, have savings, keep pushing for a remote job (or own your own remote business), etc etc. Take care of your health by working out at home. Literally within a day you could be hundreds or thousands of miles away from …
/r/MGTOW15/11/20 10:52 AM
7

As always, we don't recruit. No need. Women do all the recruiting for us....
/r/MGTOW14/11/20 03:00 PM
4

All paths lead to mgtow. Red pill, blue pill, simp, even possibly incel eventually. No matter what they progress toward mgtow. These days younger women especially are working 110% overtime driving men to mgtow. We never need to recruit. Just be here online to receive them and logically lay out our case. Once you know the truth you can regress....a little. Maybe get a girlfriend or fml live together with one. Before you know it you'll be back and that can only happen so many times before you say …
/r/MGTOW11/11/20 10:04 PM
8

Although at the time I thought it was bad I realize now many years later that my divorce could have been so much worse. My ex cheated and didn't contest anything. Straight split down the middle (she worked a well paying job), every other week with my daughters, no alimony, etc etc. Reading stories like this and hundreds of others I'm not sure I could have taken the stress if she had REALLY wanted to make my life hell. I always make sure to remember that feeling of helplessness for a few years th…
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 09:12 PM
2

I've done almost exactly what you've outlined here in my life at 50. Divorced at 43 and lost half per usual but it didn't change anything about my basic strategy. My work life as an IT technician then consultant is VERY structured and logical so I assumed in my 20's paying down debt would be like that. Totally wrong. I failed to pay down much for the first year or so because paying my high interest but also high principal mortgage in the early 90's was just demoralizing. It would take forever. I…
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 09:43 AM
3

As a libertarian/classic liberal I'm very used to being disappointed but this election is just crazy. I'm seriously considering moving to Mexico when my youngest daughter graduates next june/july. This won't totally remove me from the USA since I'll still pay taxes, drivers license most likely here and I'll visit my kids but....it hopefully will remove me from this poisonous emotional/political climate. I can't really identify with either side now. Conservative men with their landwhale wives are…
/r/MGTOW11/11/20 08:59 AM
1

After, but sex happens within days of meeting someone. Typically the first time they are at my place. The word relationship is funny. It's frowned upon and categorized to death by us and by women too. Mentally I feel I have a relationship with almost any woman I meet....it's just that this relationship has clear boundaries that will not be exceeded.
/r/MGTOW11/11/20 08:05 AM
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We don't recruit. They just show up. Every time I see a post like this I'm reminded of that truth.
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 09:06 PM
1

This ignores the past 30-50 years totally. We are already quasi-socialist and there are orders of magnitude more guns than 50 years ago. I would definitely be willing to change my mind if I saw calls for mass turn-ins though. The more liberal a president has been the MORE guns that are sold. A total inversion from moving to no guns in 12 months.
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 02:59 PM
1

I'm 50 and about to do the same (age matters in some foreign countries). I'm torn between moving to a small town in a red state or outside the US. I'm considering Mexico mostly. I have two daughters so I'd like to be close enough for us to get together a few times a year. If not for that I think South America would be an even better choice. Southeast Asia sounds good on paper but I would never assimilate as a tall white guy whereas Central/South America seem much more laid back about that kind o…
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 08:44 AM
2

The "rich" do pay taxes. A motherfucking shitload of them but not necessarily income taxes. I've seen the charts where they are estimated to pay up to 80% of total taxes in the USA. I don't even care if they do anyway. If I pay $5k in taxes on a $100k salary and some rich fucker pays $5k on a 10 million dollar income why would I care? He's not using any more govt services than me. Probably less. Good for him. I use every single loophole I can find to pay less taxes and I expect the rich to do th…
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 08:38 AM
1

At your age it's terribly difficult to find that balance. I'd suggest doing what you need to do to keep clarity about your true goals. Also, possibly set aside 1-2 days a week for girls/interactions/sex and stick to it. Setting that hard boundary will make it easier to stick to it. At 50 I'm at the opposite end. I have to space out days in between women and even then it takes forever to nut. Ironically, this makes the women happier since they get hours of sex each time they see me. So do what yo…
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 08:31 AM
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I think almost all drama comes from either living together or honestly when both people want drama. I can't imagine living with a woman again. In the 8 years since my divorce I have never considered it. Ever.
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 08:25 AM
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I still date and engage in short term relationships. I still don't relate to other people's struggles. It seems trivially easy to just not reply when a woman gets needy or bitchy. I hear people all the time including all my neighbors arguing and I just don't get it. Wtf are you arguing about all the time? Some of this might be my age (50) or the age of most women I see (35-45ish) but this just doesn't happen for me. Having said all that....usually within just a few days of meeting someone they w…
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 08:23 AM
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I listened to it yesterday and enjoyed it but I had a hard time following it after about the halfway point I'll admit. I couldn't tell when you were quoting the study or just talking about it. Keep on producing good content!
/r/MGTOW08/11/20 09:20 AM
2

I remember in the book The Millionaire Next Door that lots of the millionaires interviewed owned businesses dealing with plumbing, trash, sewage, etc etc.
/r/MGTOW08/11/20 09:11 AM
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Lolol I know a woman in this exact situation right now. I'm like....how in the fuck do you even do that. It takes more than a couple of bad decisions to be upside down on every asset/property you have.
/r/MGTOW219/10/20 08:50 AM
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This is it exactly for me. Not bad people (although many are) just risky for anything more than short term relationships or fuckbuddy type deals. I still see women fairly regularly and enjoy it. However, getting into a serious relationship with any of them would be foolish. Moving in....fuck no. All have kids (now I don't care), most are on anti-depressants (now I don't care) and all have money issues (now I don't care). Move in or god forbid get married to one of them.....and I would have to ca…
/r/MGTOW219/10/20 08:48 AM
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I don't know when the tipping point would occur but unless small villages still have no internet access it's just a matter of time. Mgtow or some variation of it that fits culturally WILL happen. Internet access means any young man/boy is just one google search away from discovering mgtow and like with most of us it will induce deep and lasting changes. I've said in previous posts that all roads lead to mgtow. I think this is true even in mostly non-western countries like India. And once you are…
/r/MGTOW16/10/20 09:17 PM
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Yes. I do side work that's the same as my day job (vmware engineer). It's fairly rare but mainly because I don't need the money. However, I could ramp it up at a moments notice if needed. For me the key is to do something that is a) fun and b)well compensated. I don't think I could be that motivated to do a side job making very little esp since its on top of my regular work I already do.
/r/MGTOW15/10/20 09:20 AM
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Look up articles and books by Caleb Jones. Not mgtow specifically but very red pill. He spends a ton of time discussing mindset and goals. His book The Unchained Man really helped me finally nail down some of the specific things you are asking about.
/r/MGTOW15/10/20 09:11 AM
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I love him too except for his weakness for women on his channel. He does go his own way but make no mistake he is definitely weak about women. He constantly has mentioned in his videos how women are oppressed and beaten down by society. I think there probably is some truth to that for his segment of listeners who truly want to go against the societal grain. Like others mentioned he is the one who got me interested in the van/rv lifestyle so he gets props for that no doubt. In his personal life h…
/r/MGTOW215/08/20 12:09 AM
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I'll have to think through your post but I do see your point. Maybe its closer to choosing MGTOW makes you antifragile. I guess its not avoiding women that makes you antifragile since you are right that is avoiding the shocks, stressors, etc. It's the ABILITY to escape those things that does since you invariably are better afterwards than before. Or at least the next best thing - resilient.
/r/MGTOW12/08/20 09:05 AM
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Be aware the book could have been one chapter. I've seen quite a few Reddit posts that summarize it very very well. Implementing it is the hard part. MGTOW for personal life. Something like the Permanent Portfolio for investing/retirement. Stoicism (or Christianity for the religious minded) for spiritual life. Etc etc.
/r/MGTOW12/08/20 09:03 AM
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Nassim addresses this in the book. Resilient resists all the same things but stays the same afterward. Antifragile actually becomes better. However, I do agree it's a small semantic difference. Plus, like most books but especially Nassim books....it could have been one chapter long and been just as good. I think one decent example is the investment strategy I use called the Permanent Portfolio. Whereas regular stocks or stock funds are resilient and adapt to shocks the PP is actually antifragile…
/r/MGTOW12/08/20 09:00 AM
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Media writes article neutral or praising mgtow (never happens) = more mgtow Media writes article demonizing and misinterpreting everything about mgtow = more mgtow All roads lead to mgtow. Alpha, beta, PUA, single, divorced....all of them. It's one of the best real life examples of antifragility I can think of.
/r/MGTOW07/08/20 04:50 PM
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Discourses on a Sober and Temperate Life. Italian guy in the 1500/1600's lives to 100 easily by eating less (calorie restriction) for about 70 years. The way he writes is so positive and full of life you can't be unhappy after reading it.
/r/MGTOW06/08/20 09:12 PM
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I'm 50 and by myself mostly. I work from home so even more by myself these days. However, I never have to be by myself. My post history shows I've had ups and downs with women (i.e. being able to put up with them) as a single guy for many years. I agree with the other posters...get a dog, a nice place in the country, live in an RV/van, etc etc. Women will ALWAYS be around if you want some short term companionship. It's not like they get any less lonely as they get older. In fact try seeing a hot…
/r/MGTOW227/07/20 11:37 PM
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What about something like 5 Flags? https://calebjonesblog.com/overview-of-how-five-flags-works/ https://calebjonesblog.com/who-is-five-flags-for/
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 03:44 PM
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The MGTOW Solution was the hands down best book I've ever read about mgtow. His audio version on youtube is just fantastic. Probably because I am close to his age. It's laid back and good advice like your single uncle might have given you at one time.
/r/MGTOW220/07/20 10:53 PM
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https://www.bitchute.com/channel/yTkj9V6jkk60/
/r/MGTOW10/07/20 09:08 AM
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I'd almost go so far as to say Unicorns do exist....if you are dating. As the commenter up top said - dont marry and don't cohabitate. You'll get 99% of the good stuff and can avoid almost any/all of the bad stuff in a relationship by doing the above. You can actually MAKE every girl a unicorn this way. Does she do drama? Don't respond to texts, meet up for short periods and always have sex. Does she keep pushing for more? Easy. Either just say no or do the same as I just stated. Not living with…
/r/MGTOW210/07/20 09:06 AM
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Same here at 50. I have fixed FORMAT but not a fixed routine. Mobility then weights followed by meditation as a cooldown and finally Wim Hof breathing. On any given day though the mobility, weights and meditation type can change.
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 08:08 PM
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I decided to quit alcohol entirely in April so it's been about a month now. Originally I suspected it was interfering with my sleep so that was the reason. I was only drinking 2 shots a night so not much but it was consistently every night though. Some observations: It really was jacking up my sleep quality not necessarily the quantity. I wake up more rested now already. Totally unexpected. I feel emotions MUCH more strongly now. Somehow that little bit at night dulled me. This has actually caus…
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 09:50 AM
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Sleep. I read an article by Serge Faguet on Hackernoon and it really made me decide to give priority to that until I get it right. I typically can only sleep 4-6 hours/night and I think it's caused problems over the years. Got a fitbit and now an Oura ring on the way so I can track and make changes. Already I can tell a difference just getting slightly more.
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 11:50 PM
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^^^ this. I'm right there with you brother.
/r/MGTOW28/05/20 09:24 AM
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I mostly am totally past it although it does pop up sometimes. I fully focused on goals I made for myself as well as constructing a mission and code to live by. You wouldn't believe how much difference it makes to have those things. I even took (still in it) a business/life coaching seminar to help distill what my goals actually are. The biggest issue for me (at 50) is the lack of male friends or groups to do things with. I'm pretty introverted so I don't need many but all of mine are in full ma…
/r/MGTOW228/05/20 09:21 AM
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Yeah unlike my divorce many many years ago I KNOW what is happening and why now. Makes all the difference. It's just emotions running their course and I'll let them. I've really embraced being totally open and transparent lately with people and it hurts sometimes but that's part of the process of finding out who people are. I definitely will continue doing that because so far the benefits have far outweighed the negatives. I think the lack of socializing at work got to me. I don't really want to…
/r/MGTOW228/05/20 01:04 AM
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I have to admit working from home the last few months allowed me to let myself be sucked in a little to considering an ltr with a long term friend with benefits situation. What a mistake. That's a week of stress I'll never get back. My post history will show this hasn't happened before and this woman isn't even close in looks or anything to some I've had. Just goes to show you never know when onenitis will strike or with whom. 7 years mgtow and I still had some weakness.
/r/MGTOW228/05/20 12:54 AM
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I've really nailed my morning routine since working from home the last couple of months. I've been doing mobility followed by weights followed immediately by meditation 5-6x/week. At 50 I finally got rid of the last little aches and pains that had been happening from years of bjj and other things.
/r/MGTOW227/05/20 10:14 PM
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I'd use different words but it's not necessarily wrong imo. I'd say after a woman is in your life the slow boil of suggestions, nagging and problems/drama goes on and on and on. In the end almost all men succumb to this. Is that domination? Maybe. As others have already said it's just not worth it. Especially these days where I can do everything for myself easily, quickly and with minimal fuss. I even have short term relationships but more and more they end quickly once I establish FIRM boundari…
/r/MGTOW25/05/20 11:37 AM
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I bet it's still growing well too even with the quarantine.
/r/MGTOW13/05/20 09:38 PM
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And that hateful title too " Morning stroll down to the ol' fishing hole..."
/r/MGTOW13/05/20 09:35 PM
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Same. Mine was already short - #2 on the sides and #4 on top. I use a #3 guard on my beard so I said fuck it and just used it on my head too. Result: no one can tell and now I never need to take the time or money to go to a barber again.
/r/MGTOW10/05/20 10:22 PM
2

I was a biomedical tech for years in a dialysis clinic. I know what you mean. I make 4x what I made there now but I still miss that direct interaction with helping people.
/r/MGTOW03/05/20 11:54 AM
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The "market" will always be low and high. The market is just a conglomeration of companies creating products and services. Yes, it can crash sometimes. Yes, it can be manipulated (on a small scale) but it's investing in human ingenuity and the satisfying of peoples desires. No one knows if it's low or high. It just is. The short answer is yes buy low. Good lord some people will save for a year to buy some cheese at Costco on sale but will not apply the same logic to the market. Talking about dea…
/r/MGTOW03/05/20 09:51 AM
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To put it more simply and understandably - We are never so defenseless against STRESS as when we love. Looking back love involved massive stress sustained over decades for me. And all for what? Nothing in the end. I lead an almost zero stress life now. I still have women occasionally but there is no stress. Love is a killer. Love of things, love of women, love of love itself. Breaking that one thing breaks all chains.
/r/MGTOW203/05/20 01:00 AM
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I read an article that said it could be translated as "Desire is the root of all stress". That one word change made all the difference in the world to me. 20+ years of reading various Buddhist writings and nothing hit me like that. Every single stress you have stems from desire. Epicurus had it right - do not fear death, be satisfied with simple, easy to acquire things and have friends. No stress. Ataraxia.
/r/MGTOW03/05/20 12:56 AM
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I watched it a few days ago and it was fairly interesting. However, there's no way it would have gotten this kind of attention without her. She actually seems nice but youtube likes and views will certainly ruin that. It wouldn't surprise me if soon she has some kind of videos that "require" her to be in a bikini or similar.
/r/MGTOW30/04/20 09:12 AM
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Exactly. One reason stoicism resonated with me so much was it's insistence on FULLY experiencing emotions but not letting them control you. But for women and most men not sharing the emotions means you are "bottling them up" or something. No, it's nothing like that. It's pure adult control of your emotional self.
/r/MGTOW27/04/20 09:39 PM
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I don't even blame them. Men could stop all that overnight. FDS can't exist without men. Their attention, money and support. Mgtow is completely self-sufficient. 99% of the posts here "hating" on women are a warning to other men. In my life now I've done the mirror image of this post. House, cars, money and multiple women for short term relationships. Monk and dump is what I call it. If the women disappeared for me it would cause barely a blip. The same cannot be said for the fds females.
/r/MGTOW211/04/20 06:23 PM
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Exactly. Women make mgtow's not men.
/r/MGTOW10/04/20 01:33 AM
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Wtf. " "I don't know what one per cent means. I'm terrible with numbers."
/r/MGTOW04/04/20 05:58 PM
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My thoughts. Don't forget transaction fees when selling. You'll need to find someone to buy them and it may not be as easy as buying them right now. Do you have at least a month or two left in cash if you buy the silver? If not, consider maybe just buying $1500 worth. You'll still have a hedge if shtf with the dollar and some money to live on if it doesn't. Also, don't disparage "stocks". You aren't buying "stocks" you are buying shares of companies and their future proceeds. Some companies are …
/r/MGTOW30/03/20 09:31 AM
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Yes and I've lived long enough to see how almost all of them are after being married. This will make you mgtow if nothing else.
/r/MGTOW30/03/20 09:23 AM
1

streetparking.com or similar.
/r/MGTOW28/03/20 03:55 PM
1

Yeah those lips got me. I made it thru the video but had to look away so i could pay attention to anything else lol.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 09:06 AM
2

I have multiple friends with literally hundreds of guns. They all value them at full price when telling how much they are all worth. I'm like sell a couple with fees, shipping, etc etc and see how much you really made. They won't do it. Same with houses, cars, etc. Like you said what it says on paper and how much you could actually sell for in a crisis are two different things for sure.
/r/MGTOW25/03/20 09:12 PM
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Yep. I'm at Fidelity and do essentially that. It works fantastically to calm emotional buying/selling. The hardest thing is to not deviate because you are missing out on "gains" during the good years. Once you hit one bad recession and see minimal losses it makes it easier to stick to it and not time the market.
/r/MGTOW21/03/20 07:34 PM
3

^^ Yes
/r/MGTOW21/03/20 03:20 PM
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Split it into something like the Permanent Portfolio (gold, stocks, cash and bonds). My portfolio is actually up slightly ytd. The PP doesn't earn a ton maybe 5-8% during good years but during times like these it really shines. It did the same in 1999-2001 and 2008-2009.
/r/MGTOW21/03/20 03:18 PM
2

Imagine the horror " No one should be nostalgic for the “1950s ideal” of Dad returning to a freshly baked dinner and freshly washed children".
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 09:07 AM
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Both of my daughters separately have used the terms simp and incel. The youngest mentioned mgtow one day so those terms are definitely being used by females in videos more. As many women do these days 90% of the videos my kids watch are cats, makeup and youtube celebrities so that's where they would hear those terms.
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 10:07 PM
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Fuck "dating" these days. Monk and dump. Monk mode 99% of your time and 1% VERY short term fun sex. YMMV. I'm 50 and this works well although the age range for me is 35-50 so that may help. Those women are broke, confused and mostly just happy to get any fun when they can. Cut it short before drama develops. Repeat as needed.
/r/MGTOW15/03/20 10:04 PM
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I think a man can start down the path but that's about it. I was married to a relatively low key, quiet decent woman. However, after starting to implement even a mild purple pill type mindset (some Althol Kay program) my marriage went downhill so fast even today it makes me amazed. Cutting back on doing all the cooking, laundry and kids homework was seen as totally manipulative. NONE of my friends (the few I still had) supported me except for one guy. So yeah, it can be done I think but expect l…
/r/MGTOW10/03/20 06:52 PM
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Ohhhh shit. I didn't even think about that. Imagine living with 4-5 women like my brother has and 20 years later they all hit you with retroactive "child support" for kids already grown up and moved out, from another man and who don't even remember you. Fuck.
/r/MGTOW25/02/20 08:39 PM
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I don't agree at all. Describing what you earn and have bought for yourself is fine. If he said $60k/year and a nice Camry it wouldn't be any different. I earn a high income also and enjoy every single thing I have. Young men should look up to older guys doing extremely well if they want positive examples imo.
/r/MGTOW18/02/20 01:46 AM
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A few months shy of my 50th. I never really regret finding mgtow. I still date and since I'm extremely introverted this basically fills all my social needs. I have a good relationship with both of my grown daughters so that helps also. If it wasn't for them I'd be traveling or living somewhere more "interesting". So to answer your questions specifically: No. As I said i'm no monk but short term relationships have about 5% of the drama and probably 500% more of the good stuff (sex, trips etc.) th…
/r/MGTOW18/02/20 01:38 AM
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Yep, 6-9 months is exactly when the switch flips ime also. Until then though, its anything goes.
/r/MGTOW16/02/20 03:50 PM
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I think this might be a case of extrapolating 20 yr old behavior to 45 yr olds. In my experience (49 yrs old) with dozens of 40+ women I've dated most had n counts of much less than 10. I know women lie but even accounting for that it was low. Most were married or had looooong term boyfriends for their whole adult life. At least half had ONLY 1 or 2 dicks. My experience may be skewed (deep south usa) though. Now, that being said.....these 20-25 yr olds with 100+ dicks already good lord by 45 who…
/r/MGTOW16/02/20 03:46 PM
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Some in this sub might say yes to all of the above about avoiding all women. These must be naive young kids. I live in a city. There are literally hundreds of women within a few hundred yards of me all the time. I am close to women getting the mail, in line at the grocery store etc etc. Any one of these women could accuse me of rape or similar at any time. After all, maybe i was standing too close to one or I accidentally brushed one when walking by. The black and white of some mgtow is absurd. …
/r/MGTOW05/02/20 08:13 AM
1

Lololol you had me at Forex.....
/r/MGTOW21/01/20 09:26 AM
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If you are looking for more all around fitness, mobility, strength, etc try Street Parking. https://streetparking.com/ $20/month gets you unlimited access to all variations of workouts. They even have travel variations if you still end up doing that. I second 5/3/1 for size and strength. Find your max, calculate numbers and you WILL get much bigger and stronger. Wendler is a strength genius imo.
/r/MGTOW01/01/20 05:07 PM
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Someone needs to do a line of whiskey with Red Pill names.
/r/MGTOW31/12/19 01:20 AM
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8 hours should be enough or close to it. Some things take time esp. if your body is really beaten down. I second some of the comments below. Simple/easy/free things: Sleep 8+ hours a night if possible. Drink more water. Up to a 100+ oz/day but at least 64 oz/day. Pure water. Don't count other liquids. In your case and most of the western world....Eat less. Fast or just cut the quantities. Fasting is definitely simpler. ​ Those 3 things are simple, easy, free or even save you money. There are ver…
/r/MGTOW29/12/19 09:16 PM
3

I've always done black cherry bourbon and diet coke. I need to try this combo and see what I think.
/r/MGTOW25/12/19 11:32 PM
1

There is a chance that this does work in my favor, but give what I've seen over the last 18 months, they'll probably offer me like 66k and expect me to be awed by a 10k raise even with these insane circumstances. "If it doesn't pan out, take it with Grace, sharpen your CV and start the search." Yes on both of those. I put a stop to these kind of situations back in my 30's but it took it happening (or similar) for me to catch it in time. Realize that you are aggravated and overworked so your emot…
/r/MGTOW16/12/19 09:53 AM
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All roads lead to mgtow. TRP, PUA, etc it doesn't matter. TRP gives you a perspective and set of skills to recognize reality. "Red Pill" reality. I'd say most use those skills to pursue at least a quasi PUA path (I did) but eventually you come to mgtow. Horrible experiences with women = mgtow. Good/great experiences with women (mostly my experience) still = mgtow in the end.
/r/MGTOW15/12/19 11:14 PM
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That has been my experience 100%. For me it's max 1x week unless something special is going on that I would invite someone to for more than one day. It's like they reset totally in between and it's always good. However, like the hilarious photo from a reddit post yesterday (I don't date. I just foster girls until they find their forever home) it never lasts. Eventually there's a TRUE simp waiting to buy them a house and put the ring on it. The reason I say true simp is these women are all 40+.
/r/MGTOW06/12/19 09:46 AM
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Yep, I had gotten so used to 12-15 bottles in the shower when married I just thought it was normal. Now, I have one like you said.
/r/MGTOW27/11/19 04:26 PM
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Out of all the women I've ever known that were 40+ exactly 2 were on track to self fund their retirement. Both were active duty military and actually saved money also. This living alone thing for women is a boomer thing. Younger women today won't have all the man resources those women do. Maybe there will be more govt help but it still wont be enough. They still spend/shop no matter age.
/r/MGTOW27/11/19 04:22 PM
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Man, I love my Eufy (roomba knockoff). Since I don't have knickknacks and crap on the floor i just let it do it's thing 2x week. My floor is perfect all the time. The only thing i hate doing really is cleaning my shower for some reason. However, i knew a guy years back that had an outdoor shower attached to his bathroom. Summer or winter he stepped out and took a quick one there. Concrete pad with wood walls. No cleaning necessary. I live in a 1br apt maybe 1000 sq ft and could easily downsize t…
/r/MGTOW27/11/19 02:35 PM
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I work in a building full of low smv/highly paid introverts and/or incels. Clothes. Most (not all) men dress a certain way to signal to women. Attitude. Some of these guys are atrociously confident to the point of narcissism around men but let a woman come around and they immediately become little nervous laughing boys. It's cringey to watch. Weight. Let's face it if you are morbidly obese you aren't interested in attracting women. Like the poster above said I can tell almost at first glance the…
/r/MGTOW27/11/19 02:29 PM
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I'll need someone to clean my house every couple of weeks at some point. I'll pay well too. :)
/r/MGTOW27/11/19 02:22 PM
2

When a coworker found out I had a friend of his as an fb (not from me but her) he came to make sure I was going to pursue a relationship with her. I barely knew him and told him I was "just having fun" like every girl says everywhere. He did not take it well. 2 days later he comes back with a long winded talk about manning up, settling down and "settings wrongs right" in reference to taking care of her children from another man. I mean incredible stuff like a script from a blue pill hand guide. …
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 09:50 AM
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Now that retardation has been weaponized, So true.
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 12:22 AM
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Yep, 100% agree!
/r/MGTOW17/11/19 09:49 PM
2

I know I keep posting this but you see it more and more. All paths lead to MGTOW. Still plenty of married simps out there but they are all one click away from a brutal red pill awakening. I can't even recall what I first read back in 2012 when i was married but it led to Althol Kay. He is the most red pill lite guy possible but it started the inevitable end of my marriage and my simpness.
/r/MGTOW17/11/19 09:34 PM
2

Notice, there is nothing like "find a GOOD man and build something together". It's literally the opposite of that.
/r/MGTOW17/11/19 09:29 PM
2

Hmmm, I don't even really disagree with what she is saying. She can try that if she wants and it sounds good. However, we all know that hypergamy and carousel riding will override all that word vomit. Plus, you can just boil down "worthy" to them as money. Money money money. Guarantee she's under 30 and either pre-wall or just smashing into it.
/r/MGTOW17/11/19 09:26 PM
1

That is what is so great about mgtow. Imagine a slave back then being able to instantaneously change their skin to white and disappear. Even simps can only be simps so far before they get sick of it. Every guy can easily and instantly change to mgtow overnight and THERE IS NO WAY to force them to change back. In fact, it's difficult to even tell a guy is one irl. That's what terrifies women and why they don't like the tiny public manosphere groups. It's a one way street. Whiteknight/simp --> mgt…
/r/MGTOW17/11/19 04:55 PM
2

What we see here on reddit and online is the tiniest tip of the huge iceberg of mgtow sympathizers almost none of whom have any clue what mgtow is. Women actually see it more than us. If you get less attention in public, men less and less white knight you generally and at work you are expected to pull your weight because men dont actively do your work for you now....it's bad. Really bad for them. We see almost none of that. For every random conversation or remark that isn't OMG PRO WOMEN that we…
/r/MGTOW17/11/19 04:48 PM
2

ALL roads lead to mgtow. ALL. Married, divorced, single, pump and dump, pua.....They all are just waystops on the road to mgtow. You may stop at any one of them but the road only leads in one direction.
/r/MGTOW17/11/19 04:40 PM
2

Totally agree. I'm almost 50 and not a monk quite yet. There's no way I could have been in my 20's.
/r/MGTOW14/11/19 09:33 AM
2

I always think all roads lead to mgtow. Married - eventually these guys go their own way as much as possible while still being married. Its RARE to see a guy over 50 who can stand his wife Divorced - maybe it takes more than once (once was enough for me) but fuck that noise. MGTOW is the answer. Single/Young - the boys/men look around and see the enormous wreckage in their families and friends. MGTOW avoids ALL OF THAT. Easy choice.
/r/MGTOW13/11/19 10:27 PM
2

"arguing with men" tells you she was a feminazi already. Guys wouldn't listen so she "fights back" by getting fat and nasty like women sometimes do. Whereas guys just GTOW.... I wonder who is "worthy" of being her lover now that she is 250+ lbs, purple haired and with cats everywhere. WTF.
/r/MGTOW13/11/19 10:23 PM
1

To just be around at work and maybe social situations. I'd say 20-25%. To actually hang out....yeah 5% or less.
/r/MGTOW08/11/19 10:44 PM
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I have 7 people under me as a team lead. I ignore the fuck out of all of them typically. They know their jobs and do them well. I'm there mostly to provide tools and support for them to accomplish what they need to do. I've had a few cases where they asked to meet privately because they had issues with something. I've always said "hey lets grab X (another lead) so they can hear this too and maybe we can all figure something out". Never once have they complained about being ignored. Never. Or not…
/r/MGTOW08/11/19 10:37 PM
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I've actually met Aaron Clarey (who wrote Enjoy The Decline - not sure if he coined the phrase though) and although like many of us he doesn't like how society is he definitely enjoys his personal life. I'm the same way. The West is slowly collapsing but I have access to things my ancestors could only dream about. They were shackled with harsh farm work, endless kids, nagging wives and until recently not even electricity. On the flip side I got up this morning and shit in drinking quality water.…
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 07:50 PM
57

Exactly. Although I despise culturally what feminism has done to the West, individually for men it's nothing short of fantastic. No matter what shaming they try, no matter what taxes they may impose, no matter what ways they might try to #metoo me.....I can get around all of that easily. As a single guy (albeit with grown kids) I can make less money if needed (although I don't), have less sex if needed (although I don't) and have less hobbies/fun if needed (although I don't) and there's not shit…
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 03:14 PM
2

Like a commenter already said....more at peace than anything. Happiness is a fleeting feeling. That high is addictive. Now it's much more peaceful which is better. So maybe less happy but more contented and peaceful.
/r/MGTOW07/10/19 08:38 AM
2

Fried ice for all the womenzz.....
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 10:26 AM
2

Damn thats almost my story too. In Georgia also. She cheated at year 10 and year 19. My ex was fanatical about being fit so she never got fat but that MADE IT WORSE. Sleeping next to a hot woman for years and only getting sex at most every other week. Fucking sucked. These days my relationship with my daughters is solid. My ex is remarried to a true blue piller so that actually is good because he gets along with my kids well. However, the cheating and the separation and divorce almost killed me …
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 09:45 AM
1

I'd say all 3 with A being the strongest. But let's be honest, B and C are getting worse not better so I'm not sure in practice if they are any different. It's not as if (western) laws are getting more friendly to men in marriage and absolutely women aren't getting better. I have two daughters who I love but are either IN ANY WAY marriageable material.....hell no.
/r/MGTOW221/09/19 09:50 AM
5

IT is good. Lots of remote opportunities and the more you specialize the less females do those jobs.
/r/MGTOW20/09/19 11:52 PM
1

I had always knew he was big like 6'5" ish so when I heard they cast him I was like wtf. However, as always, he comes thru and makes it great. He's a professional actor in the true sense of the word.
/r/MGTOW18/09/19 12:31 AM
2

I kinda consider myself paying for it when "dating". Some coffee ($1-$2) and a little of my time every week or two. Any more than that and I cut them loose. Of course the short term hoops you jump thru for 40+ women are MUCH less than 20-30 somethings. They are still there and eventually the demands come out but it's easy to move on.
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 08:48 AM
10

I really wanted to not like that movie when they cast Tom Cruise but damn....i've watched it like 10 times now over the years.
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 08:45 AM
2

Yep, 6 years single and 6 years of 800+ for me.
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 11:16 PM
2

Something fairly straightforward and conservative like the Permanent Portfolio might work for you. https://joshkaufman.net/permanent-portfolio/ Easy, straightforward (once you understand the rationale behind it) and it takes most of your emotions out of investing. Emotions will kill your returns if you let them.
/r/MGTOW14/09/19 01:18 AM
22

"I am so free, that my very existence is act of rebellion." I am working hard on that. Already, in the corporate world where I am I see major differences between how the other guys spend their time and I spend mine. Yet, they honestly feel I am trapped by my "cheapness". They literally can't comprehend how I'm good with the shitty taco place down the road from me. Their wifey doesn't like it there because the tables are sticky sometimes so they never go. Food is amazing. Or how spending 3 hours …
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 06:35 PM
1

Well, compared to some I'm sure maybe my life still seems not that different. However, when I was married the stress was never ending. Some of that was smaller children but mostly just being married. My past post history details some of this but it's an ongoing process. ​ Work –I work remotely 1-2 days a week. My employer is resisting ft remote work and I'm not quite in a position to just leave and take a lower paying remote job. Yet. Work - I was/am much more aggressive about salary/raises etc.…
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 03:47 PM
1

I've considered it but eventually decided I have little or no control over it in my personal life so it's not something I concern myself with. I'm actually not that familiar with taxation vs. benefits/freedom of other countries. I'm mobile but it's doubtful I'll move overseas permanently so it's also not something I concern myself with much. I have made MASSIVE changes to my personal life/freedom re: taxes, women, money etc so at this point I'm content to continue living as is unless things do w…
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 01:05 PM
9

No, fuck that advice. Break up by text. There's no commandment to face someone in person. Fuck all that. If what she said was bad enough to break up then you don't owe her a face to face so she can try to manipulate her way out of it. And that is exactly what will happen. EVERY time I ever agreed to face to face it wasn't about breaking up, or a discussion of what went wrong or anything like that. It was pure pull out all the stops crying and whatever needed to be said to not break up.
/r/MGTOW11/09/19 09:49 PM
1

I think I've posted it here before but it took about 5 years for me to get back to the amount "we" had saved/invested/401k etc etc after my divorce. However, since it's just mine I'm in a much better place. In fact I recently got some coaching/advising from Mr. Free at 33 and realized two things: I can cut even more out of my spending since I've stopped even trying to date I'm only 2-3 years away from partial/full early retirement (early 50's) because of this There's absolutely no way I could ha…
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 11:20 AM
1

As I swing more and more toward classical Epicureanism in my life I see mgtow as a basic prerequisite for their goal conditions. Ataraxia - tranquility, calmness Aponia - freedom from pain (therefore a high pleasure in itself) Just by minimizing your interactions with women you can almost achieve Aponia. As a man there's just not that much else that causes pain daily i.e. mental anguish. My work stress has even lowered because my bills are like 30% of what they were when married. ​ Still working…
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 10:01 PM
11

Absolutely true. Do I wish it would change? Sure. Do I think it will? No. I still include women in a limited basis in my life. I've seen nothing in literally dozens and dozens of women that would encourage me to think they give a shit to change things. ​ Otoh, I took a shit this morning in DRINKING QUALITY water this morning, robots do almost everything for me (ac controller, truck, microwave, dishwasher etc etc) and luxury quality food is available 24x7.....LIFE IS GOOD so it is still entirely …
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 09:47 PM
1

I feel that powerlessness sometimes also with other people. Seeing someone you like slowly being circled down a drain is painful. I agree with the other posters that it's probably a lost cause though at this point.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 12:30 AM
2

Bro, you had me at touch bricks...See cool or old brick....must touch.
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 12:34 AM
2

Everyone (unless they are some kind of super monk) needs external validation to some degree. I think "PUA's" can think they don't because they always are getting hot girls and it really doesn't train you to let that external stuff go. I can also understand the not wanting to grow old alone thing. I feel it so I more and more try to keep excellent relationships with my children and even work colleagues. I plan on working in some capacity until I die if possible so some of them will always be arou…
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 10:41 AM
31

My 19 yr old daughter went to a secluded massive lake house/mansion for July 4th. She knows all about mgtow and turns out the guy who owned it is single with a hot gf and made it clear (from discussions that night) that he will NEVER get married. This is like his 4th gf in 10 years. My daughter thought it was hilarious because this guy most likely has never heard of mgtow but ALL of the younger guys there 18-23 were seriously discussing his lifestyle with him. ​ Women advertise it by their behav…
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 09:18 PM
32

This is probably one of the strangest things about mgtow. WOMEN will make it more and more common. Despite PUA's turning tradcon, despite leftists foaming about womenzz are oppressed and despite tradcons wanting young guys to MAN UP and marry them.....women just can't help but women. ​ Even my own daughters are disgusted by other women their age despite exhibiting many of the same behaviors.
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 09:10 PM
9

I've noticed the same thing. Maybe it's the red pill or possibly going mgtow but every woman i know will ABSOLUTELY tell you within a "date" or two everything you need to know about her. ​ Every guy i know though will say the equivalent to "well, I knew X about her but i thought...." They are putting the blue pill spin on what they are told despite it being crystal clear. ​ I know some women are surely deceptive but the root of the problem is dumb ass men just not listening imo.
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 11:32 PM
1

Would you consider 10 acres micro-farming? I really have no idea. I read 10 Acres Enough (written in the 1800's) and that guy diversified and sold locally and seemed to protect himself pretty well from farms going bust (common even back then). I'm sure keeping expenses super low might help but maybe not with modern farming.
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 10:45 PM
4

Where I live (southeastern USA) in some places you could get it for probably $15-50k. Maybe less if it wasn't "suitable" for some reason to lots of people.
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 10:35 PM
24

Lol, I thought the mgtow symbol was on the whiskey. Damn, that might be an idea for a special order bourbon.
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 05:45 PM
1

That's one of the greatest things about mgtow. Even in a "feminist hell" you can simply opt out of 99% of the bs. A single man is so productive and so naturally minimalist it's easy. Even the guys I know who aren't minimalist are VERY self sufficient compared to women. No stupid consumerist crap, over the top emotional needs or entitlement. I've learned over time to be circumspect about my financial situation and sounds like in a place like Rwanda you definitely need to ghost in plain sight. ​ G…
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 05:42 PM
1

How long have been doing this or something similar?
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 01:13 AM
6

23 years. 20 married. 2 kids.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 11:23 PM
50

White knights...white knights everywhere. ​ If all those men would have just stepped back it would have been over in 30 seconds.
/r/MGTOW22/06/19 09:51 AM
4

I agree with the other posters here. "big dick energy" is some of the most see-through simpish shit I've ever witnessed. It's a caricature thats so cartoonish. These women saying that are truly running out of buttons to push and knobs to turn for controlling us lol.
/r/MGTOW17/06/19 05:15 PM
1

And beaches. "My happy place". I swear I'll go postal if I have to hear that one more time at work.
/r/MGTOW17/06/19 08:52 AM
2

I see this with almost everyone I'm ever with. It's a subtle change that happens over a few months. I notice they start asking about more decisions they are making until they basically ask about everything. I actually wouldn't mind so much this IF IT MEANT things were permanent like at some points in history. Even worse if after we stop seeing each other I often hear that she says things like I was controlling or tried to make all the decisions for her lol.
/r/MGTOW17/06/19 08:51 AM
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SO HAPPY I will never have to even consider this kind of situation ever again.
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 05:34 PM
2

This is just my own experience and I've seen lots of variance: 14-19 Consumed my days. Even when I was doing other things it was almost always constantly on my mind. Normal for a teenager I think. ​ 20-30 The worst for me personally. My sex drive was sky high but I was married and SLEPT NEXT TO A NAKED WOMAN every night that rarely had sex with me. My ex-wife was and still is to some extent a beautiful woman. Looking back I'm amazed at how deprived and miserable it was. ​ 30-40 Still a high sex …
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 11:16 AM
19

The less I'm in a "relationship" the better the sex. I'm 49 and this is 100% true. FORTY FUCKING NINE. If you want sex, good sex, almost endless amounts of sex, unprompted bj's, anything you can think of eagerly given.....don't be in a relationship. It's so simple and we have feminism to thank for it. Yeah, it fucks society up but you know what...fuck society. ​ I can't even imagine doing some shit like the above now.
/r/MGTOW08/06/19 01:15 PM
1

Some of this I'm sure is age related maybe? Seems like very young girls 17-21 would be up for this. Likewise in my age category (49) there's a little more involved but not much. I actually enjoy hanging around some of my women because many have traveled either with a man paying or with work. Either way they are moderately interesting at least for a while.
/r/MGTOW08/06/19 01:03 AM
2

That's exactly what I always say now too. Who wants a "serious" relationship anyway. Even then it has about a year for me before the women change and want to "have a talk". I see it coming and now can gracefully get out of it usually by encouraging her to see other guys that will "treat her right". The last couple years I'd say every single woman I know has found a good little beta easily and there were very few hard feelings to me. How could there be when in her mind she won.
/r/MGTOW08/06/19 01:01 AM
3

This kind of shit is enraging but at the same time it can be a good thing. The acceleration toward Japanese levels of MGTOW is pushed by this kind of stuff. I expect (hot) women will continue to double down while the bottom 80% cries about where are all the good men. Every one of us they lose to mgtow isn't coming back. Even the ones (like me) who still see women occasionally will never be blue pilled to the extent this woman wants. In 6 years of being single never have I once wanted to be a "Be…
/r/MGTOW08/06/19 12:18 AM
7

"monetized dating"...hmmmm i wish there was word for that already lol.
/r/MGTOW07/06/19 10:55 PM
10

I fixed some Windows Office issues and did a Windows update on my mom's desktop about 8 years ago. Simple stuff. EVERY SINGLE TIME she has any issue now she brings up "well you know you did that "stuff" to it that one time"......drives me insane. She has a chromebook now and still says it. However, it's much less which is why I pushed her hard to get a Chromebook.
/r/MGTOW02/06/19 10:43 AM
3

I'm not a gamer really but I threw a little bit at your project just on principle.
/r/MGTOW01/06/19 05:54 PM
1

“It’s crucial that we encourage our children find a mentor — a teacher, a relative or someone who teaches them sport — someone who they can communicate with, talk honestly to and learn skills about healthy relationships,” she says. ​ Two mentors are mentioned in the article already. The brother and uncle....both of whom got fucked. So when they say "mentors" they really mean plantation approved ones. I bet those young mgtow's will have tons of healthy relationships throughout their lives SOME EV…
/r/MGTOW01/06/19 12:12 PM
9

That's a fairly accurate description of how I live now. It has natural variations over time as women come and go but usually 3-5 women I see semi-randomly. The biggie is never marry and (to me at least) NEVER COHABITATE. Married or not, every man I know living with a woman looks and is miserable. ​ I go on short trips with women. I go on trips with my daughters. I go on trips alone. Next week I'll be "at the beach" for 5 days. I've scheduled multiple fishing charters and massages. All alone. ​ M…
/r/MGTOW30/05/19 09:42 AM
2

Small print at the bottom: "Unmarried, childless women have never had it so good" which is 100% true. Objectively, women have it at LEAST 10x better than men when single. They have all of our things to enjoy PLUS free dinners, attention, tons of sex with no #metoo worries, etc etc. ​ Yet, with rare exceptions before at least 50 years old they are miserable if single. In fact, in six years of being mgtow/single I've met ONE woman who was actually single. All the rest didn't didn't have a bf but t…
/r/MGTOW28/05/19 09:24 AM
4

I've never considered doing this but I'm going to give it some thought going forward. I pay cash for some things I do and I could definitely at least do it with those activities. The things you learn on this sub. It's fantastic.
/r/MGTOW08/05/19 10:16 PM
2

I've had 4 Jeep Wranglers. I realized when I got my last one - 2013 Rubicon - that it was truly the FIRST one I owned outright also. I was recently divorced so every vehicle before that was a "sensible" purchase even the jeeps. I could only get those when I worked locally. Otherwise it was subtly and sometimes not subtly communicated that it wasn't a good thing. ​ I drove that motherfucking Jeep thousands of miles to the Keys, mountains, beaches and then would turn around and commute in it weekl…
/r/MGTOW06/05/19 09:08 AM
1

Neither unless you count dating as prostitution-lite (which it is). For the price of a cup of coffee and listening to a few stories about all her bastard ex's you can have porn star level sex these days fairly easily. Lol of course. It's always been real it's just the age is going down. At one time it was probably as high as 25-30 but these days it's around 13-14.....children. By the time they are women no it doesn't exist now. In every possible way. More freedom More money True peace and quiet …
/r/MGTOW04/05/19 09:54 AM
3

This is one of the only reasons I still sometimes do stuff with women. I split everything now. For me it's like everything is on sale 50% off but for them "omg everything costs so much!!" I remember paying THOUSANDS for a week vacation when married. So yeah....they have no clue. They can pay.
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 02:26 PM
6

There is plenty of love in the world although that one word encompasses many things. Eros - romantic love. I allow myself to feel this sometimes for women although only a little. Once you get older you can do it a little without worrying about going overboard and doing something stupid like getting married/cohabiting. IME at least. Older women can give this back for short periods of time although inevitably it ends. Rinse/repeat if needed. Storge - family love. My kids provide this for me. Witho…
/r/MGTOW01/05/19 09:37 AM
1

Ask me in 6 months. :-) ​ Seriously, I don't know yet. However, I routinely put in 5-20 hours/week of overtime currently and I'm cutting that back to zero except for emergencies so hopefully its a wash.
/r/MGTOW01/04/19 08:55 AM
2

Well, Im totally new but I'd say why not..... The consulting course I bought has you list all of your skills. It was amazing how many I had. The skills list included EVERY skill not just work related going all the way back to childhood. It should takes weeks to round out the list. ​ Also, look around at your school/work environment and see what people are bitching about. That's one of the things I did that finally persuaded me also. That interaction between agencies/companies and the confusion w…
/r/MGTOW01/04/19 08:47 AM
1

Thanks! I definitely will do that. Still in the process of creating the llc and doing basic accounting setup but hopefully within the next 2-3 weeks all that stuff will be nailed down. Still a little confused on how to "get" business but I figure it's just because that mindset is so new to me.
/r/MGTOW01/04/19 08:42 AM
5

Initially I want to take projects where a client is experiencing infrastructure issues between components i.e. firewalls, load balancers, routers/switches, etc. In my experience this is a real pain area for lots of medium sized organizations.
/r/MGTOW01/04/19 12:57 AM
1

mgtowamerican I've been meaning to buy your book and this reminded me. Just purchased on Amazon.
/r/MGTOW02/03/19 11:02 AM
4

Crossfit seminar on Saturday. Depending on how i feel after that it could be a short hike or more likely a netflix or Amazon movie. ​ Sunday is cleaning my apartment (which i actually enjoy doing) and washing my car. End the night with my weekly allowed cigar and possibly a little Wild Turkey.
/r/MGTOW01/02/19 03:34 PM
7

I'm thinking of visiting Thailand next year to scope it out for early retirement. Is Chiang Rai a good place to add to that list in your opinion? Especially compared to the bigger cities.
/r/MGTOW26/12/18 04:34 PM
1

10 years younger here and my days are similar. Exceptions would be I work an earlier shift (0730-1530) and I see women sometimes (1-2x week). I've considered going to a later shift because no one who is married or with a gf is allowed to do it so it would be in high demand. One guy took it for 3 months just to get on at our agency which is highly desirable. He said it was hell at home the whole time despite him getting a 40% raise to change jobs. Yeah, never getting married again that's for sure…
/r/MGTOW18/12/18 11:55 PM
2

Don't marry. Don't cohabitate. Seriously, everything else is minor. You could go thru your late teens and twenties with an average job spending money on gf's left and right....but as long as you don't do the two things above you'll be very very well off. The jobs will pay better and better and 10 years of gf's will assuage any doubts you ever had about marrying or cohabitating. ​
/r/MGTOW07/12/18 11:38 PM
1

MGTOW can feel empowered and at ease in the same situation. When I'm in a new city, with a pocket full of 100 dollar bills and a weeks worth of clothing, not much else, I feel like a ghost in the best of ways. No one knows where I am, where I've been, or who I am. I am the only one who can ascribe meaning or definition to my world. I don't need anything to 'show' for my life's years; as long as my net worth is in the black, and I can reminisce on adventures and experiences over a few cold beers,…
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 12:40 AM
1

About halfway in I had to give up watching because of that. The first half with the downsizing, divorce, etc. was good but it went off the rails afterward.
/r/MGTOW29/11/18 10:53 AM
3

This. Exactly this for me also.
/r/MGTOW28/11/18 11:05 PM
3

Skin https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3snj7l/how_to_do_skincare/ ​ Generalized longevity I found helpful https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/a20community/Alpha+2.0+Community+Podcast+01+-+Overall+Alpha+Male+2.0+Philosophy.mp3 ​ Fitness and health - Steve Maxwell. I've met and trained with him over an extended period and he is the real deal. https://www.maxwellsc.com/blog.cfm?blogID=95 ​ ​
/r/MGTOW228/11/18 01:35 AM
14

I finally stopped giving advice for free and converted a few guys at my gym into clients for personal training. It's not much extra money but I'm excited about the idea of it.
/r/MGTOW27/11/18 03:48 PM
1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Here_be_dragons
/r/MGTOW26/11/18 11:01 AM
3

Musashi is another good one. ​
/r/MGTOW224/11/18 01:27 PM
5

I have many times. The only thing stopping me (at least theoretically) is my two daughters. I want to wait a couple more years to get them fully grown and self-sufficient. Plus, the nagging feeling that leaving my well paying job will somehow ruin my life. The social programming gets to me when I start seriously considering it.
/r/MGTOW224/11/18 01:17 PM
3

Monday mornings are headphone days for me. I don't even have music playing but i seriously dread the "hey whats up. what did you do all weekend" questions. Headphones tend to keep that away mostly. The really sad thing is the question usually seems to be asked just so THEY can tell me what they did. And fuck....the most inane shit I've ever heard. We went shopping, we argued about where to eat but i "won" haha etc etc. The worst is the totally out of shape, broke and beta mf'ers who are actually…
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 10:56 AM
2

What you are describing is Epicurueanism in the classical sense. Hedonism will end up wrecking your body and mind for the exact reason you lay out above. However, epicureanism will forego shorter term pleasures if the TOTAL amount of pleasure is greater over the long term. ​ Read up on it. Epicurus himself basically ate bread and water with a little cheese. Rarely or never had sex. Wanted friends, good conversation and pleasant surroundings for the most part.
/r/MGTOW231/10/18 09:18 PM
2

Same here. Intense team interaction daily and usually under stressful shit is broke conditions. By the time I leave the gym and eat I'm done. An hour or two of reading and a cigar 1-2x a week and I'm good. I'm also introverted although not "shy" at all. I like one on one conversation and still date when I want to.
/r/MGTOW30/10/18 10:46 PM
6

48 here. I still occasionally see women but have slowly decided long term relationships just aren't for me. After a few months I just don't enjoy them much. I was married for 20 years and although some of those times raising a family were great I will never ever marry again. In great shape going to the gym 4x week, hiking/paddleboarding on the weekends and eat basically nothing but meat, eggs and cream. I had some stomach issues and that solved them. Could never have done that when I was married…
/r/MGTOW27/10/18 02:08 AM
1

" 'Fuck me harder' I am literally doing H.I.I.T on the bed and the frame is buckling".... ​ LOL.
/r/MGTOW20/10/18 07:23 PM
5

Worked overtime all night so tonight will be some netflix and (actually) chill movie. Going to go for hike tomorrow hopefully followed up by a short mtn bike ride. It's cooling down where I am so I'm wanting to take up mtn biking again after dropping it for a few years.
/r/MGTOW05/10/18 04:21 PM
2

I've went from slightly repulsed by "sex" dolls to neutral and now finally to slightly interested. Not necessarily in the current versions of them but in what is coming. Add in some slightly realistic movement and possibly sounds and I'd be very interested. And so will many more millions of "normal" guys who have never heard of mgtow. In fact, I could have used one when married WAY more than now. So that market at some point will explode no matter how much shaming women do.
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 10:25 AM
8

I'll never forget the gf from a few years back who became so angry when I told her I paid my house. Why angry? Because I made her pay half for all vacations and she thought it was unfair now that she knew I had all this "extra" money....
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 10:12 AM
1

"chimpanzee-tier" lol. Yes.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 04:11 PM
5

Every single one of them was terrible with money. Not just bad but TERRIBLE. Sometimes it takes two but I guarantee they were spending harder than the ex-husbands. Plus, I cringe every time I read an article like this and they mention the grown kids living at home doing nothing. It's always presented a boo hoo for the women but they won't do anything about it. Guarantee the sons in the article do nothing at her house because the father won't put up with it.
/r/MGTOW23/08/18 10:08 AM
4

Every woman and the guys over 50 basically had no clue. "Nothing has changed because im respectful"....wtf. Clueless.
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 11:45 PM
3

This is such a good analogy of the single life. Unlimited choices Huge cart (money/savings) Wide easy open lanes. Add in what you are saying about all the unintentional motivation you get there to remain single and it's perfect. Maybe all mgtow's should go weekly to the grocery store at peak time just for training lol.
/r/MGTOW13/08/18 09:40 AM
3

Speaking of movies...just watched A Quiet Place. Blown away by it's depiction of a family. Just watched it once but I didn't see a single bad depiction of the father/husband. At all. Pretty refreshing.
/r/MGTOW22/07/18 10:58 PM
2

I added it to my Netflix dvd queue. Will definitely be watching it soon.
/r/MGTOW08/07/18 09:59 PM
3

https://dvd.netflix.com/Movie/The-Quiet-Earth/70049577
/r/MGTOW08/07/18 08:40 PM
2

Well, you can take HCG to keep yourself producing if you want. I was going to do that but really the shrinkage isn't bad imo and I realized I didn't care.
/r/MGTOW08/07/18 01:10 AM
1

Why do you cycle it? I worked with my doctor to get my blood/saliva testosterone level to high normal then just keep it at that level. Is there a benefit to cycling instead?
/r/MGTOW07/07/18 11:49 AM
1

This might be possible in some countries but in the USA at least it's not cycled normally.
/r/MGTOW07/07/18 11:47 AM
1

Yes, while you are on it your own production drops to zero. You can get off/cycle on-off but there's no reason to. HRT keeps your levels nice and steady permanently.
/r/MGTOW07/07/18 11:45 AM
2

4 current ones right now on vacation. 2 sci-fi: Superluminary The Freeze Frame Revolution 2 non-fiction: Epicurus and the Pleasant Life Mastering Windows Powershell Scripting
/r/MGTOW05/07/18 08:40 PM
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Not interested in "regular fun".... I've met these chicks before. Regular fun is sex, cheap amazing travel, cooking fantastic food at home, etc. She doesn't want that though....Her kind of fun is earned sex, expensive travel and restaurants nightly. Fuck that noise.
/r/MGTOW22/06/18 10:59 AM
35

5 years in and blue belt here. I'm as proud of that blue belt as almost any other "thing" I've ever had. Congrats!
/r/MGTOW20/06/18 09:46 AM
1

Lol, this was hilarious. "Shes in the friend zone, we are bathing in friendship"
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 09:50 AM
2

I actually think it doesn't look bad except.....that godawful Higgens. Had to show a badass fight scene too where she goes thru hitmen like they arent even there. Sigh. I don't much mind Higgens as a female. Might even work if she was lowkey but yeah that will never happen.
/r/MGTOW07/06/18 07:30 PM
3

Just a year younger than you and I'm considering doing the same thing. I too worried about working out and diet but in the last 6 months have really gotten into a routine called Happy Body and some bodyweight exercises. Eating zero carb so that's easy too. Leaving my grown daughters for long periods is the only thing "holding me back" but damn....that looks fun.
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 09:00 AM
1

I had a small MGTOW symbol on my jeep. Had a coworker come in one day astounded... "You are a mgtow?!?". I was like oh fuck at first but turns out he's been on the fence. So one down and 1 million to go.
/r/MGTOW29/05/18 12:23 AM
3

Absolutely this. Everything you do alone is so cheap. After being married for 20 years I still am amazed by this.
/r/MGTOW23/05/18 12:47 AM
1

I originally looked for a 2 bedroom house in the area (USA Southeast) when I was wanting to buy something. I figured my two girls could share a decent sized bedroom and then I'd convert to an office when they moved out. I couldn't find anything close to that. It was either 60 yr old houses (from when homes were smaller) or at least 3 br. I ended up buying a 3 bedroom which is only 1100 sq ft so not too bad. I really think housing even here where its generally cheap still drives a lot of the need…
/r/MGTOW17/05/18 05:08 PM
1

How I Found Freedom In An Unfree World Your Money or Your Life Enchiridion (really the first 4 paragraphs contain a workable life philosophy) These were books I read as a teenager that made a huge impact on my life outlook in general.
/r/MGTOW11/05/18 02:06 PM
2

Sometimes when my girls mention something going on in my ex's life my first impulse is to advise and provide simple solutions. I have to catch myself and not do it. I beat myself up over it for a little while but then realized it's a virtue in myself to be that way. I just choose to only do it now to people who deserve it.
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 08:47 AM
1

I'm sure it's a common and totally not covered issue in the media. At least I've never seen it in anything mainstream. I went thru the same. 20 years of giving everything until there's nothing left and it still wasn't good enough. It took a couple of years to really start to come out of that mindset for me. Of course there were flashes before then but even now almost 5 years later something can trigger me although not that badly. I remember maybe a month or two into the separation I sat in a par…
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 08:44 AM
3

I'm always fascinated by them but how much of a "hermit" are you when your clothes are washed, room most likely cleaned and food bought, paid and cooked for you. Now, the japanese swordsmen like musashi or the taoist monks....they were what i consider real hermits. Still, it's interesting to read about these guys.
/r/MGTOW02/05/18 11:26 PM
2

Same. I "lost" half my stuff in my divorce. However, in 4 years I've hit previous 401k, savings, etc levels that I had pre-divorce and continue saving. So....20+ years to get to pre-divorce levels and 4 to get back (without sacrificing trips, cars, etc.). Clear choice.
/r/MGTOW01/05/18 07:11 PM
6

Telling someone its wonderful when they get married and a shame when they divorce is being an asshole? Living happily despite others troubles is being an asshole? Lol, enlighten us please.
/r/MGTOW27/04/18 02:15 PM
3

Same symptoms. Waited until I was 43 to go get actual bloodwork. T was 218 on a 300-1200 scale for the test. I lifted heavy, had good sex and ate/supplemented really well. Nothing I did seemed to help. First doctor wanted to do monthly injections in his office only. A small amount of research showed test injections need to be at least weekly because of half life. Dumped that doctor. 2nd doctor recommended weekly to 2x week injections and was fine with self injecting. It's not rocket science afte…
/r/MGTOW26/04/18 10:48 PM
2

As a preacher mentioned (i think paraphrasing St. Augustine) when I was younger : Preach 24x7. Speak as little as possible. I've applied that to so many areas beyond what he meant. As a single guy with plenty of money, reliable at work, peaceful.....this WILL influence people regardless of terms. I agree. Don't mention MGTOW. If someone goes down the rabbit hole because you dropped some red pills they can't help but eventually end up here. I've said before in other posts MGTOW is the Omega to th…
/r/MGTOW25/04/18 01:50 PM
1

Somewhat. He mainly focuses on the cheapness of sex for men compared to the past. He does explore women's behavior when unleashed from babies and has no kind words for it.
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 07:29 PM
4

I guess we just have two different viewpoints. Basically, at any time in history except for now (and possibly late roman republic) sex was hugely more expensive. Even 50-100 years ago getting sex meant LIFETIME subservience in marriage and always more and more kids. Now....you can GYOW and have no sex which was viewed as deviance in the past, you can date with ZERO possibility of kids (vasectomy) and no one can force you to marry. I just don't see how in any conceivable way sex is more expensive…
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 12:46 PM
12

It's bad enough to see younger guys like that but I see guys my age (47) and older that DEFINITELY validate my choices. I mean I'm divorced and my marriage wasnt horrible mostly. However, I have yet to see one single example of getting remarried from any guy at work or outside of work. Not one. In fact, most are screaming train wrecks just waiting to crash again. Probably because I don't judge (verbally) I hear it from guys I work with all the time. The worst is they aren't even complaining. The…
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 01:19 PM
1

Short answer is yes without HCG or similar. The question to ask is wtf does it matter. I opted out of HCG when I realized slightly smaller balls didn't really even bother me at all. Just my .02.
/r/MGTOW16/04/18 12:30 AM
4

Agree. Plus all the 20's ones I've known had HUGE n counts. Almost all the women I've dated that were post 40 had low as in sometimes just 1 (ex-husband) although 2-4 was most common.
/r/MGTOW14/04/18 11:07 AM
1

Late 40's here and I'm on the edge of going Galt. My daughters have about another year of college then I'm out. I consider myself a "normal" guy but somewhere along the past 20 years being debt free, content/peaceful and avoiding the news and tv made me a complete rebel. Hell, just not watching the news daily means i've complete gone Galt in the eyes of my coworkers. I plan to do something like Mobile MGTOW on youtube and try the rv thing for a while.
/r/MGTOW209/04/18 12:16 PM
9

Almost daily I see the women "having sex" with young boys in the news while any man would be "raping" a young girl. It's made me consume even less "news" over time. I would have enthusiastically consented to sex with any of my friends moms after about 13 but it would have messed me up i'm sure. My dad had a story where a woman took him behind a barn when he was about 14 and did that. She according to him was a 9/10 but yet......40-50 years later he was still bothered by it. So yeah, rape is rape…
/r/MGTOW09/04/18 09:37 AM
1

I really enjoyed the first movie and have watched it with my kids multiple times. Even though he gets a little oneitis for the girl he still has his own mission. The continuing sequels (although some are decent) just went way too much into making him as dirty/nasty as possible and playing up the love triangle thing so not nearly as good. It works for a general audience because OF COURSE a single man has terrible hygiene and is a bastard to women. Meanwhile, my house is spotless and my life is st…
/r/MGTOW209/04/18 09:30 AM
3

Shit, I had a ptsd flashback to being married just from you saying that.... :)
/r/MGTOW08/04/18 09:57 PM
3

Take away the marriage (which is dumb as hell especially in these cases) and this might work for some mgtow's. Living Apart Together Even in a pro-women go girl article like this though they can't help but highlight why we would never want to live with a woman. "If I'm lonely, I can't just slam dishes while I'm cooking and hope that someone notices.” Honestly, my kids were taught to stop that at about 10 but some never do.
/r/MGTOW07/04/18 11:09 AM
2

Today I'll hit a local mtn bike trail and walk it twice about 8-9 miles total of moderately difficult terrain. Afterward, I plan to get some bell peppers and squash in my raised beds finally. I'll spend time with both of my daughters today off and on until they leave this afternoon also. Tonight have plans for a woman who needs "support" after a breakup to come over for a couple of hours. Tomorrow I'll do a little more yardwork, do some simple shopping for the Gracie diet I follow and if I feel …
/r/MGTOW07/04/18 10:23 AM
1

YES ^ Never met a girl yet who didn't like it. If done right there is zero air constriction going on.
/r/MGTOW06/04/18 01:53 PM
2

I knew a woman years ago when still married that was describing the expense and time for ONE horse. It was like an endless hole to throw money down but the worst was the time investment. Boarding 30 min away at a "proper" stable I guess is the word and traveling there daily 7 days a week to visit. She visibly got excited talking about all of this. This woman's next provider is screwed.
/r/MGTOW05/04/18 09:37 AM
1

Yep but one year later and every year after that.... Post red-pill
/r/MGTOW05/04/18 09:27 AM
2

That was difficult for me to see also. I now realize all the I love you's and later all the I hate you's were BOTH true....at the time....because feelings. Now mine are constant. I love my children, my mom and living peacefully ala U/handymandan90. I also hate things like spending money for no reason, inane chatter and drama. I will love and hate things like that forever. Peace and contentment.
/r/MGTOW03/04/18 09:53 AM
2

I did the same thing at the same ages as you. Almost 5 years later despite dating I haven't had ONE SINGLE ARGUMENT over anything. I refuse to do it. That amount of peace I can never give up.
/r/MGTOW03/04/18 09:49 AM
2

Yes, he mentioned during the call that he had told her she could subpoena a bunch of us from the gym to show "how bad he treated her" i.e. the husband. I was like oh hell no leave me out of this shit. So yeah, I'll get my update in a month or so and post it here but that's it. Plus we all know how it's going to turn out anyway.
/r/MGTOW03/04/18 09:42 AM
1

Thats true. Never thought about it that way. Even worse, everyone around you is still in the cult.
/r/MGTOW02/04/18 12:04 AM
1

Yeah it looks like their official site was hacked in the last few days. Just do a search for Gracie food groups. Its not hard after the initial few weeks of knowing what goes with what. Basic Guidelines: Eat 3 meals only. Nothing else. Only one carb per meal. It can go with protein/fats/veges or sugar type stuff in another group. No combining sugars with proteins/fats/etc Eat until “80%” full. No idea if the science of food combining is shit or not. It works though whatever the reason. Probably …
/r/MGTOW01/04/18 08:39 PM
2

Upper 40's here. Can confirm its even worse now. From my bjj days I picked up the Gracie diet and realized it was stupid simple way to stay at my optimum weight for the rest of my life. If I mention it to any woman wanting "advice" she acts like im talking about chicken breasts/broccoli every meal for the rest of her life.
/r/MGTOW01/04/18 01:35 PM
2

I barely spend any of my extra money on alcohol, nights out, video games or new clothes. However, you are right. This is also pure projection because obviously ALL extra money must be spent. They just disagree on what it should be spent on (them).
/r/MGTOW31/03/18 10:47 AM
1

I want an rv so I've been using airbnb to stay in different ones to see what I think. Like the poster above said I can get along fine with women when I'm not living with them. RV rentals are really cheap and I just play up the "adventure" side of it and women eat it up. Plus when you are staying in rv's it really gets the point across that you are frugal/have very little money without having to say much.
/r/MGTOW29/03/18 09:42 AM
1

Probably as good an intro as any to what kind of life he leads and preaches. http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2017/12/19/typical-week-life/
/r/MGTOW28/03/18 12:49 AM
2

She "flew through my 20s, then 30s and 40s". Even she remembers it as a carousel which is hilarious.
/r/MGTOW27/03/18 09:38 AM
2

Read Blackdragon's stuff for probably the best alternative to Monk Mode. I've implemented pretty much his model and have had dozens of "relationships" lasting normally 2 months to about a year. The issue is you need to have iron discipline doing it. I don't see many guys who can do that.
/r/MGTOW27/03/18 09:06 AM
2

No. Were some things better? Yes. Women looked better but didn't act much better from what I can recall being a teenager back then. I agree with the other poster here that we live in a technological wonderland now. Muscle cars are actually BETTER now than the 70's although those are still awesome. The best part is a median salary as a mgtow means all of that is accessible to you. Nice small paid off house in a few years, technology out the ass, nice muscle car in the garage if you like that kind…
/r/MGTOW26/03/18 10:05 PM
1

Actually, I was thinking along the same lines until you cleared it up. Good job on you both. It's great you can help out like that and still get to experience the ease of life when a female doesnt live with you that is "yours"....
/r/MGTOW26/03/18 09:58 PM
4

Simply. Yes. My "relationships" now consist of doing things I want to do anyway and that are more interesting/fun with someone else.
/r/MGTOW26/03/18 04:50 PM
2

From what I've read the short answer is no. At least not without a lot of trouble. However, if the timeline is long enough 1-2 years then I think it could easily be done. I've advised two of my married friends to do this over many years. Even though both have seriously jacked up marriages they look at me like I'm crazy saying to prepare....
/r/MGTOW26/03/18 04:29 PM
1

My brother and I had a hilarious discussion a couple of years ago about how we should go to our local courthouse and get married. It would probably save us $5-10k in taxes a year. In the end it seemed like too much trouble but still.... In my mind if a simple document can save me $10k+ a year (if single taxes went up) I'd seriously consider it again.
/r/MGTOW26/03/18 09:40 AM
2

Close. Beta male --> TRP --> quasi-PUA --> MGTOW. No bad breakups because I set hard boundaries from day one. MGTOW is just....easy. I still sometimes "pump and dump" but mostly it's women coming back from my couple of years of active dating.
/r/MGTOW26/03/18 09:30 AM
2

This out of all the very good reasons not to cohabitate or marry is probably number one for me. Looking back it's clear as day that when I had a bad year (ongoing serious allergy issues, no energy, anxiety about my future) my wife "lost" her attraction. From there the end was inevitable. Why would I ever subject myself to that again when I know I'm human and will have good and bad times? What's worse is I see I'd guess about 60-80% of the guys I work with at varying stages in this process. I fee…
/r/MGTOW26/03/18 09:19 AM
7

My brother is full Ghost mode MGTOW. Seems happy. I'm not going that far but it's interesting to see it in real life and how it plays out.
/r/MGTOW25/03/18 09:58 PM
10

Being 10-15 years older than everyone in my whole area (all men) I am the same. I mock them every Monday about their "nonstop married sex" and the like and they must be so tired from all that help at home. They in turn give me hell about spending whole weekends alone (true) or trying to see how cheaply I can have fun (also true). Humor is a great way to slip nonstop red pills in.
/r/MGTOW25/03/18 09:46 PM
1

I love raw posts like this. You are doing great because you've introspected and know what's wrong and how to fix it.
/r/MGTOW25/03/18 10:54 AM
3

"Good husband material doesn't occur naturally, but is instead the product (in part) of socialization, development, and social control".... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep writing shit like this. It's like you are running a multimillion dollar marketing campaign to create more MGTOW's.
/r/MGTOW25/03/18 10:48 AM
6

Every time a woman says relationship to me I think....you truly have no idea what that means. You can't have had 10, 20 or more "relationships". Are you 120 years old? No? Then you've just had lots of sex.
/r/MGTOW25/03/18 10:19 AM
1

The other side of the story is in the 9876 posts in this subreddit detailing the risks. If my one post with generalized suggestions sets someone up to fail then good grief they can't be helped.
/r/MGTOW24/03/18 06:58 PM
2

Yeah, maybe the language I used was too much but it was early in the morning lol. However, I still think just by simply following these guidelines you can minimize the chances to really close to zero. Not zero however. Everything in life is a risk.
/r/MGTOW24/03/18 06:43 PM
4

Awesome. Lots of finance and motivational type books recommend visualizing a "perfect day" and working toward that. The problem for me is a perfect day is about 3-4 hours of work and then....whatever i feel like. A few more years and I'll be there too. I doubt I'll ever totally stop working and like you I like the fuck you money also.
/r/MGTOW24/03/18 11:28 AM
2

THIS. I am a good looking guy, own my house outright, 6 figure salary and a great relationship with my kids. Just the HINT that I might commit makes women do crazy shit.
/r/MGTOW24/03/18 10:05 AM
3

So true. I've noticed how once I have sex with a woman she will keep slipping word swaps in like this. I'm down from a year on average dating someone to 3 months and now to about 2-3 weeks because of things like this. Even pump and dump starts to be stressful when language is used against you like you are in the novel 1984.
/r/MGTOW24/03/18 12:23 AM
2

Number 2: "Maximize their income"... They need to keep hammering on this one. Now that one search tells men why this is, it will provide even more incentive to stay away from marriage.
/r/MGTOW21/03/18 05:21 PM
1

"hit her in the ribs"...fuck, it made me cringe just reading that. I would walk around terrified that any disagreement with her would have the cops showing up.
/r/MGTOW19/03/18 09:33 AM
2

At least a little daily. I still "date" periodically and I (like most men) have a giving and generous nature when my needs are being met. Therefore, I could see myself possibly slipping back into being at least a semi-regular provider unless I refocus sometimes. I've never actually found myself getting onenitis again but just in case.....I'll at least watch a few videos a week and pick a few reddit posts to read. Also, unlike many here I go on trips and/or vacations with women during the summers…
/r/MGTOW18/03/18 08:33 PM
1

I have a fair amount in cryptos but overall I'm very diversified. I would advise against going "big" in anything unless possibly you are very young (<25)....maybe. Things seem slow by diversifying but year after year of splitting between gold, stocks, bonds, 3rd party loans (like Prosper), crypto and then all of sudden you have a giant pile of wealth. Plus it's wealth that's totally insulated from market crashes, crypto crashes etc etc. Wealth is good. Wealth + peace of mind is even better.
/r/MGTOW18/03/18 10:27 AM
1

The pure amount of butthurt rage in that article was epic. It warmed me lol.
/r/MGTOW10/03/18 03:49 PM
2

Number 2 is a no go for me. I prefer the Blackdragon-ish method of spending 1-2 hours meeting someone and then having sex for months until she figures out im not "committing". Actually cheaper too. That being said I do enjoy the "chase" so it works for me. All the rest seem spot on.
/r/MGTOW06/03/18 05:00 PM
61

I figure 90%+ of The Red Pill group will migrate this way over time. Plus all the men finding us thru searches and ending up coming straight here. 500k by 2020 wouldn't surprise me at all.
/r/MGTOW06/03/18 04:51 PM
49

I give it a 95% chance he will be married in 5 years....maybe a lot less. I really hope he proves me wrong and is the black equivalent to Leonardo the rest of his life though.
/r/MGTOW19/02/18 12:02 PM
1

As much as I strive for ataraxia at all times articles like this can still get to me.
/r/MGTOW19/02/18 01:15 AM
1

Just got it and paid. Good stuff man.
/r/MGTOW08/02/18 12:43 AM
2

Looks a lot like the Ichetucknee. Tubing down all those rivers is great.
/r/MGTOW28/01/18 04:32 AM
2

Absolutely do it. I buy every book I see that is MGTOW-ish just to support the awakening. Here are some suggestions based on ones I already have. Edit edit edit. I'd say 80% of the red pill/mgtow books I have contain egregious grammar and spelling mistakes. A few I can't even get through because they are so bad. This is especially true of my books that are specifically mgtow. I guess it's to be expected since they were probably rushed out. Clear concise chapters and focus. A great example of thi…
/r/MGTOW07/01/18 12:59 PM
2

He has a 400% divorce rate lol. Wtf....
/r/MGTOW07/01/18 11:36 AM
9

The guys who marry multiple times are the worst ones. My ex's brother married 4 times. Heinous bitch from Panama who eventually left and took his daughter back to Panama for 15 years. Slightly less heinous woman who eventually divorced him and got the house which he bought back from her. SAME woman as #2. Remarried. Divorced and got HALF THE HOUSE this time.....which he bought back again. Sour faced extremely negative woman with massive family issues. Still together and he still "owns" his own h…
/r/MGTOW07/01/18 11:33 AM
4

Sandman version "and cheers"..... :)
/r/MGTOW07/01/18 11:25 AM
20

Meh. I'll give her a pass. She was hot until her mid-to-late 40's. That's probably 25 years more than most lol. Still good to be a man knowing I'll look fantastic in my mid-fifties if I continue to take care of myself.
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 11:18 PM
3

I bought back in 2012 and managed to hold on until $10k and sold. Lots of married simps at work laughing about bitcoin is a scam while they fork thousands of dollars a month to their fat ass wives. I just smile and agree with them while sitting on a mountain of cash from my "scam"....
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 11:09 PM
1

I don't how cheap you want it to be or what you consider "views" but the north Georgia/Tennessee mountains are beautiful. Hundreds of trails and waterfalls that are all free. Restaurants and groceries are super cheap too. I've stayed at numerous Airbnb places that were $20-$30/night and less. The fun to cost ratio is very high.
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 10:40 PM
2

I agree absolutely not. I bought my house in Georgia for $85k. 3BR, 2 Bath.... 1100 sq ft. Now some might not like the deep south but plenty of roads to ride your bike (pedal or motor), groceries super cheap and lots of need for trades all around. $600k.....i could retire with $600k lol.
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 10:35 PM
2

As a late 40's IT guy (SysAdmin and Network Mgmt) I totally agree with this. As an employee I also like stability in my coworkers which is something I didn't really appreciate until I had been in the field a few years. There's a synergy that happens after a team works together for a while. However, there is a team of software developers that work with us that are all 100% telework. They've worked together for years though so even though most have never met there is still that stability thing hap…
/r/MGTOW12/12/17 11:28 AM
0

I dont think we will agree on this. Your own reference shows you replace the currency with something else. If i subdivide a bitcoin into a thousand pieces, how many bitcoins are there. Still one. However, if you believe your own hype then youll make a killing shorting bitcoin when the futures market comes online soon....
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 10:24 PM
1

I don't know. Sounds like the opposite of debasement to me. Debasement is making 10 dollars have the same value as 1 dollar by printing more dollars not allowing people to trade smaller values than .01 dollars. If 4 dollars could buy a small house (like 4 bitcoins now) it would be great to allow smaller and smaller divisions of a dollar to be traded. No one could use a dollar to buy eggs/clothes/etc if not. None of this is to say Bitcoin might not crash to zero or have inherent stability issues …
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 08:54 PM
1

That's not true. If I have a dollar and can only sell it in $.10 pieces then it's worth 100 cents. If you change and say I can sell in $.01 pieces it's still worth....100 cents. Am I missing something here?
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 09:32 AM
2

I don't think I'll ever be able to go back to a gym. Home gym for 15 years now. In fact, I'm down to just using two 20 lb db's for Happy Body program and finish off every day with some bdwt exercise like pullups, pushups, ring dips, etc. I can even take that on vacations (and have). I hope I never see the inside of a commercial gym again.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 01:10 AM
2

Honestly, I did all that for a little while. It felt good too at the time to be able to sleep with lots of women. However, eventually I became "just me" again although with a little more reality based wisdom. Looking back almost all the women had kids with multiple guys, money issues etc etc. I didn't care then but now I just recoil thinking about risking what I've built again to save someone and be husband #3 or something.
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 12:16 AM
1

I feel you on the rage. It's been 4 years and sometimes out of the blue my daughters will relate a story about something my ex does for the boyfriend eagerly that she grudgingly did for me and it all comes boiling back up. Doesn't help that my ex was always fantastically attractive and still is. I keep hoping she will get fat one day lol.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 12:49 AM
1

That's when I walked away. The actual physical manifestation of MGTOW lol.
/r/MGTOW03/12/17 03:05 PM
2

We Monday morning quarterback here so hopefully some guy somewhere will read it on the Friday before his wedding...
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