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Debate401kisfun/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:18 PM
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-1

He shouldn’t have slept with some rando. You never how someone is going to be after the deed.
/r/MensRights11/07/26 02:33 PM
2

Texting too much isn’t good. It’s a parasocial relationship.
/r/MensRights28/05/26 11:56 PM
1

Correction - don’t have to TALK about doing it.
/r/MensRights14/05/26 01:45 PM
14

That may be all true. However, I couldn’t picture sucking dick.
/r/MensRights14/05/26 01:27 PM
8

Remote work
/r/MensRights11/04/26 07:17 AM
-8

I loved manchild. She isn’t really bashing men at all. It’s one of my fav songs ever.
/r/MensRights18/03/26 12:56 AM
1

It doesn’t bother me at all. Its just the selective equality (equal HERE, but NOT HERE) tickles me pink :)
/r/MensRights06/03/26 09:30 PM
3

Tarred and feathered, literally, and marched through public. And 6 months hard time, at a minimum.
/r/MensRights03/03/26 07:46 AM
16

The rationale was, you need men to combat a formidable foreign enemy. Women cannot do it
/r/MensRights02/03/26 09:38 AM
84

The most hilarious thing is watching a feminist argue why females shouldn’t be part of the military draft
/r/MensRights02/03/26 09:06 AM
-12

Diary of a mad black woman actually showed the dark side of a prenup on a very traditional woman
/r/MensRights02/03/26 12:23 AM
1

if I went up to a complete Stranger girl and commented her relationship (i never would), there is a strong chance I will get the shit beat out of me, or arrested. Why do women get a pass? It is insane behavior. At a bare minium, I would to the establishment where you’re at and say: ask these people to leave
/r/MensRights11/10/25 10:36 PM
2

I would snap a picture of these women and report them to their employer, the police, their investors, their partners for going up to complete strangers in public and harassing them
/r/MensRights11/10/25 07:52 PM
3

This was my favorite thing about him. He never squelched debate. He had back and forth dialogue with ppl, no edited clips, just unscripted exchanges with college kids. Mainstream media and politicians HATED him for it. But it is SO american. Could you actually go into an interview with Gavin newsom and ask whatever you want? Fuck no. He will pre-script the shit out of everything. Charlie Kirk was down to answer very uncomfortable questions. He also gave you the floor too. Has anyone noticed the …
/r/MensRights11/09/25 04:59 AM
1

If you read about any super good looking guys who do not have any issue getting girls it’s never called a date formally
/r/MensRights01/09/25 04:36 PM
-5

Go to sharks and shut up
/r/MensRights24/08/25 02:38 AM
2

This would be such an awesome lawsuit when you see how rudimentary and arbitrary ‘human trafficking’ training is at united airlines with their underpaid, under credentialed employees. It is probably some cheesy 10 hour video
/r/MensRights10/07/25 04:49 AM
-4

The reason I never got married is because even a hot girls change. A girl whose shape never changes is blessed genetically. A girl like that would never marry an ugly fuck like me.
/r/MensRights17/06/25 07:53 AM
-5

Hi DM-ed you please respond
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:09 AM
-2

I can’t imagine sucking dick
/r/MensRights26/05/25 02:45 AM
1

You ghosted me, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:42 PM
4

This isn’t gender discrimination?
/r/MensRights24/11/24 11:52 PM
-5

This is really really low self esteem. Killing yourself over some woman who doesn’t want you. And leaving your child fatherless.
/r/MensRights21/11/24 06:56 AM
5

Equality EXCEPT for the draft, making the first move, and paying for the first date
/r/MensRights30/08/24 02:52 PM
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/r/MensRights02/08/24 07:02 AM
5

I don’t know just saying influencer girls are rarely a girl’s girl (feminine, bubbly, likes wearing dresses, etc) - even if they are pretty. Usually they have a bad attitude and psychological and sexual issues. The craziest thing about the article is that some of these women probably decried man paying all the bills as oppression just a few years ago. And the same probably banged their fists on the table for women in the office. And got sick of soul less corporations so now they want husband pro…
/r/MensRights16/06/24 07:18 AM
6

Influencers can be hot. They can SOMETIMES be an ok fuck, but usually not. And they are never ever fun to kick it with.
/r/MensRights16/06/24 07:02 AM
5

The blind man one was a total ADA lawsuit
/r/MensRights12/06/24 06:35 AM
4

What is real scary is DA’s, detectives, and police are TOTALLY OK with sending innocent people to jail and ruining their life when the police do not properly investigate the charges upfront. Ask them point blank about that. At MOST, they will act indifferent about it.
/r/MensRights22/05/24 09:59 PM
5

Its about fucking time. This is digital kiss and tell. Not about safety.
/r/MensRights25/03/24 08:23 AM
1

Digital kiss and tell
/r/MensRights07/03/24 10:59 PM
12

‘Mainly’ give me a break 😆
/r/MensRights03/03/24 08:26 AM
9

The key difference between men and women highlighted in this article is that women are ok with permanent, irreversible guilt by accusation in the name of this unchecked movement. They openly state they don’t give a shit about due process. It cannot be undone later through the news, or through any legal proceeding. Even the founder says this by saying ‘mainly truthful’ warnings as opposed to ‘all truthful’ warnings.
/r/MensRights03/03/24 08:22 AM
5

Remote work, no phone calls, emails only
/r/MensRights05/02/24 07:15 AM
1

Shouldn’t he be in federal prison for putting patient’s lives at risk?
/r/MensRights23/01/24 01:28 AM
-18

When is the last time you fucked a hottie?
/r/MensRights10/12/23 03:46 PM
4

Fucking great post 😆
/r/MensRights27/11/23 02:13 AM
3

The stupidest thing about bumble is alot of women don’t realize they have to make the first move. You CANNOT send the first message!!!
/r/MensRights23/11/23 03:50 PM
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Every woman needs to try OLD as a man, ie guy friend’s account who is decent looking, sending messages to women also decent looking, to see if they can get a reply and an agreement to meet in person, since they should know what women want to head. And then post about it on youtube. It is totally harmless And then come back and tell us how easy men have it. Even female dating coaches have refused to do this when i proposed it, saying it would skyrocket their client base (because you demonstrate r…
/r/MensRights23/11/23 03:40 PM
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Equality no need to step in, she can handle it!
/r/MensRights08/11/23 04:09 PM
1

Look man. I work from home. Rarely interact with anyone in general. Its not that hard.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 06:27 AM
6

Your emails and your IP address. You are supposed to be working.
/r/MensRights07/11/23 08:43 AM
7

Remote work
/r/MensRights07/11/23 08:07 AM
4

This is partially why I work remotely
/r/MensRights12/10/23 12:29 AM
2

A has been that can’t act and is an idiot who will wants to know and will judge you on your body count as a guy. You don’t need to know more.
/r/MensRights04/10/23 07:36 PM
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This girl is a walking train wreck, and her acting sucks
/r/MensRights04/10/23 07:08 AM
2

I do just saying some can be extremely misleading up until the point they get the money
/r/MensRights29/09/23 10:57 AM
2

I’ve met girls who pretend they want to date and like older guys but they always insist on cash upfront, and that is all they want. They don’t advertise upfront that they just want to be paid, and nothing else. I am not at all jealous of a woman who wants get paid to exist, maybe at most text, but is clear about that from the get go
/r/MensRights29/09/23 10:35 AM
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I’m not jealous, its just ALOT of girls are popping up who HIDE that, and try to get cash from Guys looking to meet in purpose
/r/MensRights28/09/23 11:03 PM
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No they don’t, not in 2023. The terms have been re-defined.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 09:10 PM
3

This is the key reason why women are popping up, describing themselves as sugar babies/escorts, and this is what it is.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 03:48 PM
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Women do not bat an eye at going to a celebrity’s house on sight
/r/MensRights27/09/23 04:58 AM
11

The beauty of women this particular is that you know they never look that good naked, don’t perform well in the sack, nor are giving, nurturing when in a relationship, just off them opening their mouth
/r/MensRights02/09/23 03:28 PM
8

How come this isn’t the case with inflation on living costs and other costs versus salaries?!?
/r/MensRights02/09/23 02:26 PM
4

The key to those suits is that everyone had or should have had the exculpatory evidence - and still accused/prosecuted anyway.
/r/MensRights30/07/23 08:03 PM
1

Unless your watch flashed, I am totally in the wrong, and I apologize.
/r/MensRights22/07/23 08:55 PM
2

Sorry not siding with you. Minus an emergency, like a shooter in the theater, or an earthquake, why do people insist on going into a film, and cannot shut off their devices during the entire film? It is so so so rude and considerate. Your device flashes, and it takes everyone else around you out of the movie. Also, why can’t you go into the lobby to take the call? Or why can’t you watch it in your house, where you can check your phone all you want? I know why. Too inconsiderate to those around y…
/r/MensRights22/07/23 08:44 PM
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This would have been such an easy discrimination lawsuit.
/r/MensRights21/06/23 08:33 PM
9

Yeah totally. I see zero issue with it. People shouldn’t bother each other
/r/MensRights21/06/23 06:31 AM
-5

I read way too many stories of women getting hit on at gyms. Also women who videotape it and sometimes lie about being hit on, or just film their social media channels which bothers others. It’s really best for both sides.
/r/MensRights21/06/23 06:10 AM
-11

I 💯 agree with women only gyms
/r/MensRights21/06/23 04:45 AM
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What is so fucking weird is how women STILL want to work with men in person, and don’t want remote work, despite these complaints. Some people need to mandate your in person presence, otherwise how else Do they initiate conflict? Which they live for.
/r/MensRights19/06/23 06:07 PM
9

Why would you even interact with such a person?!!
/r/MensRights21/05/23 06:06 PM
1

Whether its women or men, it’s toxic overthinking weird shit. Ok? The rest of my comment stands. Fuck the training. That’s a cloak for justifying an accusation without a real basis, with a shock and awe verbal bomb - human trafficking. How many hours was the training? What is the level of education for a flight attendant? Do you have to take a test when you pass? How long is the test? What is the format? How many times EXACTLY have you been wrong? Just like it takes years for a highly regulated …
/r/MensRights17/05/23 06:51 AM
2

Flight attendants usually are female, though not always. With that said, I never said anything about feminism. I am saying that saying you were trained to spot something in response to being totally wrong when you spotted something, and it LOOKs like the only sign was it was a MALE, and not anything else, that is crazy. You could just inaccurately accuse every father out in public with his daughter, detain both of them, then try to defend yourself saying ‘oh i’m well trained in human trafficking…
/r/MensRights16/05/23 10:13 PM
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This is an epidemic of women’s toxic overthinking. Young woman and older man can only mean the absolute, worst creepiest thing. Fathers have daughters, but they can’t take them out in public without WOMEN having creepy thoughts about it, leading to illegal detention? How draconian is that? Do women get questioned with their sons in public like this? This is such clear gender discrimination. The real question for the airline is, rather than hiding behind a shocking inflammatory word to conceal th…
/r/MensRights16/05/23 03:18 AM
22

Guilt by accusation
/r/MensRights09/05/23 01:31 AM
9

Explain to them how racist, misogynistic, and sexist their silent feelings on exclusion are. Totally sarcastic post.
/r/MensRights12/03/23 08:56 PM
3

What’s dumb is that she doesn’t see herself as a troll. I don’t give a shit about other people’s consensual, legal preferences, both in dating and sexual. The WOMEN themselves in the relationships aren’t decrying them after the fact. Katherine also is not saying women are too young to vote, join the military, rent or own property, take out student loans, buy cigarettes, own a firearm, get tried as an adult for felony or misdemeanor after 18!! Its selective infantilizing.
/r/MensRights09/03/23 01:29 AM
10

Remote work is the solution!!
/r/MensRights21/02/23 02:31 AM
1

They literally think in their mind higher taxes for rich people means more money directly into the POCKET of middle and lower income citizens, indirectly at the very least. The lack of a true underground subway system in the entire state of CA, is the best example of government not using taxes to the best interests of the average taxpayer.
/r/MensRights16/02/23 01:29 AM
0

Local city governments have, Throughout many states. Few if any state governors have stopped them in anyway. LA, NY, and so forth.
/r/MensRights15/02/23 11:06 PM
2

Neither governor of CA or NY is a social democrat?
/r/MensRights15/02/23 11:05 PM
-4

Like defunding the police, and keeping in office progressive (pro violent crime) prosecutors?
/r/MensRights15/02/23 10:58 PM
2

This is why i hate the arguments for high taxes. People incorrectly think if the nameless and faceless government taxes the wealthy at a higher rate, that the tax revenue will go back to the middle and lower class and programs and community that benefit middle and lower class. People incorrectly think the nameless and faceless government is REQUIRED to do this.
/r/MensRights15/02/23 10:56 PM
-2

Untrue. Higher taxes rarely is reinvested into programs for the lower and middle class programs, and infrastructure. Look at California and New York.
/r/MensRights15/02/23 10:51 PM
1

These witch hunts are stopping short of saying outloud they want innocent men to go to prison and if they are wrong it’s ok. That is the underlying sentiment. It’s time to start openly calling them out on it.
/r/MensRights03/12/22 07:10 AM
1

One the problems is schools, authorities, everyone needs to be labelled properly ‘we WANT to send the innocent to jail, we don’t give a —- about evidence. If you are accused, then you’re not innocent.’ That’s not the headlines in mainstream media.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 03:46 AM
1

Why didn’t they sue the girls and their families directly and subpoena the girls for a deposition?
/r/MensRights27/11/22 04:29 PM
-2

Amber heard’s case was very much ‘you get to call me a druggie, an alcoholic, but call me a woman-abuser, you’ve just slapped a shark in open water’.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 04:21 AM
1

I never ever hear the naysayers answer this: ‘if its so creepy then why is there a revolving door of women willing and ready to do it? Assuming that they KNOW his dating history?!? Is it possible they don’t find it creepy like you do?!?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/10/22 08:06 AM
22

This is on the nose, and why employers love it. You get to keep everyone at the same pay, in the name of equality. They will literally say some day ‘we cannot give you a raise, that will be gender discrimination/racial discrimination’
/r/MensRights21/09/22 09:54 PM
1

I honestly think most guys lose testosterone as you get closer to 40, so that’s why sexlessness doesn’t matter as much. And if both parents really got into the marriage to be parents, that was the whole point, then its really about raising the children, and not so much the sex. My parents said that is exactly why most marriages fail, because the young couple gets married just thinking about sex. I am myself, a self confessed shallow guy, am kind of ambivalent as to whether or not I would be supe…
/r/MensRights15/09/22 02:13 PM
1

This is such a spot in and authentic post, but this cannot be EVERY woman, can it? None want to be in a fairytale romance with husband forever, through thick and thin?!?
/r/MensRights15/09/22 05:39 AM
1

Does your husband find you attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:49 AM
1

Just text back ‘and so could you lol! meet in public 4 1st date’ and leave all the extra shit out.
/r/MensRights28/08/22 02:35 AM
1

Failure by design at its finest
/r/MensRights26/08/22 02:06 AM
1

I don’t have a problem at all. You are saying men did not find you attractive. I read that as you’re still single, not that you did find someone so that issue/search/struggle/part of your life is now over. I guess you can still feel bad about being unnoticed in your past.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:24 PM
1

Did you go out with your husband? Yes. Did you marry your husband? Yes Was going out with him a pre-requisite to finding the one? Yes. And were you able to go out with him? Yes I hope i am making myself clear, i never said you were out begging for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:20 PM
1

Feminism against men is what it should be called
/r/MensRights19/08/22 08:53 PM
1

OMG you have a husband? So someone DID find you attractive enough to be with you forever? And you’re stuck on other people who never found you attractive? Why? Also my analogy about 100 messages is a huge divide between guys on here versus women. Women say if they get a date easily that only means someone will fuck them, which is true, but isn’t also true that getting a date the first step to a relationship, then marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 06:32 PM
1

I honestly don’t think any woman cannot be cute. It takes work, but its possible. Your teeth, hair, outfit, physique, etc. if all of that was maxed out after 3 months, and then followed by 100 messages online sent out to guys you think are cute, i’m sure one would say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:20 PM
1

Cute woman making the first move = guaranteed success
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:37 AM
7

The problem with this article is that it Is not showing women’s instant reaction, when such behavior is expressed by the man.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 05:26 AM
8

How does she feel about asking guys out on the first date and paying for the first date?
/r/MensRights31/07/22 07:51 PM
1

I would have taken legal action against both the gym and gym member. At least in small claims at a minimum. Or make them go viral, fast, let them explain their discriminatory actions to the world
/r/MensRights30/07/22 05:39 PM
1

That’s a total blatant ADA discriminatory violation. This cannot be real.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 02:44 PM
1

I noticed she said ‘and THAT’s a good thing!’ Without explaining how or why several times. She would not even consider how an non feminist-minded society benefitted women. The Titanic, going down, ‘women and children on the lifeboats first’
/r/MensRights22/07/22 04:12 AM
1

The mental gymnastics this writer makes is astounding. She keeps confusing a ‘you’ problem, for ‘we’ problem.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 04:05 AM
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A) she thinks your ugly that’s clear, and B) yes do not compliment strangers. They are hostile time bombs looking for an argument, to twist things, as you said.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 04:00 AM
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Didn’t coach corey wayne say NOT to think that way when you are in front of a woman? With zero game, i’ve been on a date with an attractive woman, taking a walk, with her smiling, saying ‘what are you thinking?’ I couldn’t answer because i was outside my head. THAT’s where you need to be, outside your head, not inside. When you do that, YOU disappear. You’re just a generic person, not an individual.
/r/ExRedPill21/05/22 01:54 AM
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K whatever floats your boat but i am just a DM away
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:49 AM
2

Why talk to these people? I don’t think that of you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:08 PM
-1

If some hot girl rejected me then wanted me i would Totally go 4 drinks. I wouldn’t care
/r/MensRights11/03/22 05:59 AM
0

I disagree i would get drinks with her
/r/MensRights11/03/22 05:13 AM
1

Sydney sweeney, jennifer connelly, eva green, alicia vikander
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:07 PM
2

The thing i hated growing up was working out to sculpt and inherent shape you have are not the same. For example, emily rata is NOT athletic, she said so in her book. She is blessed with elite genetics. So some girl wanting to be em rata can’t emulate that shape with constant workout and diet. She would have to do both and possibly go under the knife. That’s what men might have to do too if to they want that Greek God look
/r/MensRights21/01/22 04:03 PM
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Sarcasm alert: Masculinity is toxic
/r/MensRights20/01/22 04:59 AM
1

Touche
/r/MensRights12/01/22 10:28 PM
1

Primal - you are born. You love your parents unconditionally. Then you find your partner, you love unconditionally. Then you have your kids, you love unconditonally. Then grandkids. Then death. You cannot get to the 3rd or 4th stage of unconditional love without a woman and we all came from a woman.
/r/MensRights12/01/22 08:04 AM
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It boggles my mind that this supposedly independent, strong minded CEO, got manipulated by an old ugly guy into sex, dieting, adopting habits, etc. she never once says it wasn’t consensual.
/r/MensRights05/01/22 08:59 AM
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That’s always been my comeback when i am told about some ‘superior past’ bf or fuckbuddy. ‘Wow, why did it end?’
/r/MensRights04/01/22 05:26 AM
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I would never show my feelings to a girl. That’s asking for her to bounce.
/r/MensRights19/12/21 06:27 PM
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Funny thing is i did this for over a year with a super abusive boss who was a woman. I literally said ‘yes’ and made shit happen regardless of how unreasonable the request. It is a recipe for disaster. People do not respect that at all, subconsciously or consciously. I would never, ever do that for a woman because its not my job to make her happy. She needs to do that.
/r/MensRights19/12/21 05:46 PM
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Was she super hot?
/r/MensRights18/12/21 05:43 PM
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Having your reassurance constantly swatted away would be annoying AF to me. That’s one reason i would never want to be married. EVERY guy i knows goes through this. Its sweet how much they love their wife and family but it aint for me
/r/MensRights11/12/21 06:34 PM
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These rat fucks never admit fault. I’m not kidding. A drop in their voice is all you’re going to get.
/r/MensRights27/11/21 01:55 AM
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The scorn for older men dating younger woman, consensually, borders on bigotry.
/r/MensRights30/10/21 05:57 AM
1

There are scary ass places in the world to be a woman. US is not the worst by far.
/r/MensRights29/10/21 11:01 PM
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The lack of awareness in how good anyone has it in America versus other countries is astounding
/r/MensRights29/10/21 08:28 AM
5

Moving things to a more simple route - you could just treat a guy friend who you think is a good guy but gets overlooked to a nice meal (platonically), or anything thoughtful really. But only if you want to.
/r/MensRights31/08/21 05:33 AM
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Oh got it!! Pardon my incorrect assumption
/r/MensRights31/08/21 05:29 AM
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Reassure a guy ONCE in a relationship ‘you are important and you matter and I don’t want anyone else’ if he keeps asking for it after that’s not good then you may need to leave him
/r/MensRights31/08/21 05:17 AM
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😆
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 09:47 PM
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Not a big deal gentlemen. There is a wide spectrum of women who have given it up for cash, that are not hookers/call girls per se, they don’t advertise online or anything. But HOLY moly the price these guys spent on HER?!?
/r/MensRights27/07/21 06:29 AM
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Haha not me. I only slept with 10/10 escorts. That was it. Now I am good 😆
/r/MensRights19/07/21 05:44 AM
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Keanu Reeves doesn’t ‘think’ that way. All the girls in my junior high were in love with him when Speed came out, but I don’t know that he ever cared about that. I have never heard of him drowning in girls or anything like that. He is aloof AF. Even Sandra Bullock crushed on him, and he just said he did too, but they never did anything because they were ‘working’. I thought they looked fantastic together, young movie stars, they made out at the end too!!! How could they not date, and have beauti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:55 AM
1

😝
/r/MensRights29/06/21 06:35 PM
1

I am a guy and this is exactly how i think. Weird
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 09:58 PM
1

Have empathy and consideration for how much more difficult men have it in simply getting a date, and what can flow from that. If even one woman goes hey THAT guy didn’t do all the things i complain about or the last 10 guys did, I’ll call him and make myself available for a date, THAT is making things better between men and women. Just like a guy thinking ‘hey don’t ask a girl out in an elevator she cannot get away from you in there’
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 07:53 PM
1

Its because its a circumstantial problem that sometimes is beyond most men’s control. You can look your best, be your funniest, be everything on paper, don’t do any of the things women say they hate that men do, and that doesn’t change you are just one of many on a woman’s cell phone. You can and still will be met with no’s, harsh rejections, and a wall of silence. When you are always struggling with GETTING and KEEPING dates, it is much harder to gain. experience socializing with women. Most yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:25 PM
1

Its not just looks they don’t like guys who behave in chivalrous and romantic ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:37 PM
1

I never got dates my whole life. Single and zero dating/relationship experience at 40. I am a guy. Average looking. Girls who got lots of dates around me ended up on a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 07:01 AM
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Probably. They havent been greeted by a wall of silence and knows their whole life
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 06:21 AM
1

Oh yeah!! Thats Exactly how I see women act online in bars and in real life lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 06:20 AM
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The milestones are harder for men. Back then cost of living was lower. They also weren’t competing with women for jobs. And people don’t think of it this way, but letting women into the workforce created a huge supply of eager employees. Combined with rising taxes and high property costs, everyone now works more for less. And you cannot disagree with me women have equal or BETTER opportunities in every area of life but REFUSE to say hey i should be approaching and spending $$ on dates and sendin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:30 PM
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Cost of living and education Has exploded in the united states by 500%. Wages have stayed largely the same. The milestones are significantly harder to hit. My parents rented a 2 bedroom apartment in CA and their combined minimum wage paychecks from one week covered rent. That is mind boggling to imagine now. That is NOT men’s fault, that’s circumstance. Also before you didn’t have to swipe 700 times to get 5 likes, 2 dates, and one shows up if you are lucky. Young women are drowning in options s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:15 PM
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You say they aren’t relationship material, and I am saying that’s because women have ALL the advantages now in work and in dating BUT still want to be a ‘woman’ in courtship. Women want equality everywhere except making the first move and courtship. Even if they are way better off the men financially and professionally. Those are extremely high standards. THAT’s why they are opting out. Not because guys aren’t up to snuff. The standards, options, and circumstances for women have changed for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:54 PM
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Then why do you disagree with me on prior posts that women have it so so so so so so much easier in getting dates and getting relationships? Your own post right now seems to have discomfort at admitting girls don’t have any barriers like before but still want all the perks of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:12 PM
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If this were true, then men who sent nice messages online, commenting on a girl’s profile, offering to take her to dinner on Friday night, open doors, take separate cars, basically do everything women say they want, guys like that would be at the TOP of a woman’s dance card on Friday night. All those actions indicate the guy is seeking a long term relationship. Those guys would be the ones who get 2nd, 3rd, 4th dates, a serious relationship, then marriage. That’s not reality though is it? Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:54 PM
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Completely untrue. Women need to go OLD as a guy more often. And get used to hearing ‘no’ or total silence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:32 PM
1

Even before that women are not that approachable they’re on their phones and headphones all the time they don’t like to be approached. That’s also a fact whether you like it or not so you have to go online
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:10 PM
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You can’t approach girls with a mask. Don’t bullshit that is scary for them. So you HAVE to do online. Women are not approachable. That’s a FACT whether or not you wish to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:06 PM
1

Post-pandemic? Every article every advice coach overlooks the sheer harsh rejections men go through to get one yes which never comes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:19 AM
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Your article is bullshit. You want to approach a girl with a mask on and see what happens?!? All the articles are bullshit. Us GUYS are on the front lines approaching, getting rejected, ghosted, and flaked on in record numbers, both online and IRL. That is direct first hand experience of most men in the dating world. Women are NOT open to being approached except by super attractive guys online because you are going around the ‘approved channels’. That is IT. If you go outside of that it is met w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:32 PM
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Oh please there you go with a broad brush. You can’t cold approach women today on their cell phones, head phones, going about their day! That’s now borderline harrassment. It is a FACT that you send out witty, nice messages, offering to take a woman out for dinner, the exact stuff women say they want and society says how men ought to act, to 500 women, 4 might reply and 2 might go on a date with you. And those remaining 494 women may have never even SEEN the message. For guys trying to do the ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:52 PM
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I am just saying guys who don’t send shitty messages and swipe reasonably selectively get treated the exact same way, consciously or not, and that in itself is a problem, when that is the ONLY way to meet women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:53 PM
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It is so against men because they can ONLY present based on photos. Women have openly stated they go straight to the best looking photos and discard the rest. Women have openly stated that they are so picky for online dating that those guys they swipe left on that would’ve gotten a shot in real life, but they cannot present face, tone, body language, etc, online. Women have not just risen in their standards, they have become arbitrary and cruel in their power of choice. It’s not as if only guy t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:10 AM
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Its so inherently against guys its astounding, just like a rigged system. Most girls never see your photo or your message. They see a thumbnail of both on their phone, not their laptop.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:07 PM
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Does it result in more dates? Matches and likes don’t mean shit. Its like getting phone numbers. I don’t consider anything besides the girl showing up in person as counting for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 07:47 PM
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Girls will go to a celebrity’s house the first night like NOTHING.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:08 AM
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This is classic double-speak. Be a gentleman! Open doors! Don’t just want me for sex! But btw i’ll flake on the date or bang someone else right before I show up!!! 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:46 AM
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Yeah COURTSHIP has been totally devalued by women. Times 100. That’s exactly why i don’t care anymore. I never had an issue with paying for dates and the girl not putting out. I was happy to go on a date Not even showing up or cancelling after saying hell yes or vanishing? While she has 100s of other guys doing the same? Do guys who comment on a girl’s profile and love to take them out for dinner end up at the top of her itinerary on a Friday night? Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:23 PM
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I’d agree with the logic of going on a date because that’s a chance at something real if girls didn’t devalue the meeting so much by constantly agreeing then not meeting up without an ounce of remorse or second thought
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:12 AM
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Paying a hooker is a guarantee of something. Making plans with a girl to go in public where you pay for her food and try to be the best you is not guaranteed, because girls flake and ghost all time. A girl’s presence is far from guaranteed. Even if she DOES show up. You are still just one of many. That’s the difference. Flaking/ghosting/lack of importance given to men who WANT to do courtship has ruined dating
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:04 AM
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I DON’T care about notch count and it renders men as total hypocrites. Even if i didn’t like how promiscuous a women is i won’t shame/judge or externalize it in anyway. Things that irritate me about women have nothing, and i mean NOTHING to do with how many guys they have slept with. I really really don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 04:55 PM
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In my head, perfect trajectory is fuck around in your early 20s, casually date, then seriously date someone from 24-27, propose, married, kids by 29. That is literally perfect. Mid-late 30s is way too late. All the excitement and wonder is gone
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 05:22 AM
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💯percent. The ONLY time i got a girlfriend that was crazy about me that’s How it happened. Just fuck her really good and be fun to come around. When you ask that shit it comes off as boring, needy, and that you worry about the state of the relationship. Let her worry about that. I don’t like seduction advice but this is one point i feel very confident in saying
/r/seduction10/05/21 09:53 PM
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NO. Anything about what are we, bf/gf, how do YOU feel about me, you ask and externalize that shit you are dead in the water
/r/seduction10/05/21 09:39 PM
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I did read it. He did something totally altruistic. And i’m fine with what i said to you. He did a good thing and it ends there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 09:56 PM
1

Bam margera
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 05:23 AM
1

Totally fine that you shared it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 04:47 AM
1

Wtf who are you to judge what he is sharing? He was there you weren’t and sharing his thoughts and internal motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 04:47 AM
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Just curious not judging at all. I always see short hot girls go for really tall guys. It’s like a carnal turn on for some. Like tits for a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 04:52 PM
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I’m asking the 5’4 girl, not you. I always noticed 5’0 to 5’4 girls love 6’1 guys, but as a 5’7 guy i have lined up perfectly with these girls intercourse wise, standing doggystyle
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:09 PM
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Shortest guy you have dated. Go!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:10 PM
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No its a system. Girl has million options and you have none because OLD doesn’t ensure an equal number of guys and girls. This causes girls to be hyper picky and arbitrary despite your best efforts. That’s a system that shits all over guys and favors women. Just like divorce. That system is inherently detrimental to men.
/r/seduction03/05/21 06:45 PM
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Damn straight. People shouldn’t do systems that are stacked against them
/r/seduction03/05/21 05:18 PM
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No i agree. Girls here are openly saying sorry its unfair and we know its more fair for us so deal with it 🤷‍♂️. That is a rigged game. I refuse to play it. Messaging 100s of girls for 3-4 sub-par dates where I pay and initiate everything? Fuck that
/r/seduction02/05/21 06:09 AM
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I am actually not a fan of saying hot women need to accept an average looking guy like myself. I would go as far as to say if a girl fucked me or wanted to back out right when we got naked i’d be fine with that. Because i need to fit someone’s sexual preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 06:01 AM
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Men want this too. I wanted for YEARS just to go on dates and have conversation. I didn’t care about sex. But after years of ghosts, flakes, rejection, girls telling ME i would LOVE to go on a date with you then vanishing, i stopped caring and took a different road. I rarely if ever believe a girl when she complains about her dating woes now. It was and is extremely to hard to shake the idea that girls were going on so many dates, having fun, getting experience, and I was getting zero, despite m…
/r/seduction01/05/21 11:25 PM
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I’ve confided in a woman 3 months in. That was too soon too. Need to be stoic at all times, even after kids and marriage otherwise she will leave at the drop of a hat. Welcome to 2021 gentleman.
/r/seduction01/05/21 11:16 PM
1

Equal except for making the first move and paying for the first date
/r/seduction01/05/21 11:09 PM
1

And therefore women have an advantage.
/r/seduction01/05/21 10:59 PM
1

So women objectively do have an advantage in OLD
/r/seduction01/05/21 09:18 PM
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I don’t get emotional all it means is as a guy if you aren’t a Chad girls are not going to give a fuck what you do, say, think, or feel online. At all. Rigged game.
/r/seduction01/05/21 09:09 PM
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Can’t she just message those guys herself?!? Like 100 of them? I guArantee at least 10 will meet up in person. Those are phenomenal odds for either gender making the first move!! That’s why i can’t take OP seriously about see we women have it hard too!
/r/seduction01/05/21 09:07 PM
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Or don’t play a bullshit game that is rigged against you
/r/seduction01/05/21 09:05 PM
1

Why don’t more women just openly state what looks they want and how no matter well written your msg is she will ignore it if you aren’t above average in looks? I get so tired of this patently false narrative men just want me for sex! Wah! When its ‘ugly/average/slightly average’ men just want me for sex! I know because i sent messages to girls with pics of my Chad friend, whose profiles specifically said ‘comment on my profile, not here to hook up!’, in the crudest way possible and they were DOW…
/r/seduction01/05/21 08:59 PM
1

Have you looked at my reply?
/r/seduction01/05/21 08:57 PM
1

This is a false narrative. This girl has laughed at, harshly rejected, or overlooked guys who asked her out in a way that wasn’t about sex. Guaranteed. I will bet money on it. The question I have: Exactly what type of message verbatim could a guy send to show he’s just not about sex that would make a girl say yes let’s definitely go out and meet up in person? I can answer my own question: the type of messages that girls ignore or read and delete or read and then move on from. Basically do anythi…
/r/seduction01/05/21 08:50 PM
1

Doe SHE message guys on her own that fits all the criteria? How many reply and meet in person? THAT’s where a woman has the real advantage IMO
/r/seduction01/05/21 06:58 PM
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I only slept with sex workers for years for this reason. How else can you line up a girl who fits all of your physical preferences ready to fuck exactly how you want to fuck?
/r/seduction01/05/21 05:50 PM
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Yeah guy here, totally support your preference for someone you are really physically attracted to. That said I LOVE meeting hot girls who don’t care that I’m not a marvel superhero, it’s like I have struck sexual gold 😆
/r/seduction01/05/21 05:07 PM
1

Familiarity. Coming home alone at 40 can suck. If it’s an apartment that really fucking sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 12:04 AM
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It is utter bullshit when guys complain about that. Why the fuck would you not want money for yourself to pick and choose where you want to go? Independent of a woman? And I disagree that women GO for high-income earners as a requirement. Maybe like Amber Heard but you are a total dumbass if you want her anyway. I like $$ for MYSELF, even if I never fucked or talked to a woman again. Money buys you FREEDOM.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 01:04 AM
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Lol yeah i got excited and started geeking out when I saw his critique of you based on nothing but his gut and subjective opinions
/r/TheRedPill28/04/21 03:49 PM
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His ‘report’ would not be considered substantial medical evidence. No MMPI test, etc.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/21 06:57 AM
1

Spot on reply. I did not at all read your post as tooting your horn, or flexing. Very real shit and authentic.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/21 06:49 AM
1

Better turn up the planks, burpees, squats, jump roping, jogging, and wii fit for some fun workouts
/r/TheRedPill28/04/21 06:30 AM
2

I really liked your write up and did not find it offensive in anyway at all. You also sound like you lead an amazing life. Respect!
/r/TheRedPill28/04/21 05:58 AM
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Untrue i know a bunch who banged and married hot white girls
/r/TheRedPill27/04/21 10:37 PM
2

This is from an era come and already gone but i used to go to strip clubs during the daytime for years. I was looking for an extremely hot girl. Day shifts are never busy and i assumed the girl was likely to be nicer and give better dances. As you can tell I got a lot more than that. Generally speaking I find it insane to obsess over a girl that you’ve never fucked. I have obsessed over girls I’ve fucked, but obsessing over a girl you’ve never fucked is pretty pathetic. This is actually not a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:08 AM
2

I’ve gotten a stripper to come fuck me at my pad for years. It was nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:45 PM
2

Death from overwork is called karoshi
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 08:42 PM
2

Improve your teeth, skin, fashion, make up, and try to get ‘tight’ ie bikini shape. Then go online and start approaching guys in person, ONLY guys you think are physically attractive. Watch the attention, dates, and relationships come flooding in
/r/seduction25/04/21 01:15 AM
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I have zero attraction to girls I cannot have a deep conversation with. Usually about happy stuff.
/r/seduction24/04/21 04:07 PM
1

This is so so off the mark from what I said, you don’t read or listen very well. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 02:39 PM
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I know it’s idiotic. I had a married friend, BRILLIANT guy. He was a legit genius. His wife shouted and cajoled so much when i came over we don’t hang out anymore. And it made no sense to me. I don’t like bitchy girls i like sweethearts. Even girls who aren’t a ‘“10”’ are just amazing to be around for any reason if they are sweet. It is so rare to see a hot girl who is also really chill down to earth, so some guys just accept a bitchy girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 06:06 PM
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The problem ALOT of guys get wrong is don’t get with a girl who is a bitch. Regardless of her looks. Some guys will retort if she is a bitch and she is hot and gives it up then it’s fine. No, no, no. Not fine. Recipe for total disaster. It never ends well. I personally never understood why guys or anyone likes a girl with attitude/dominant vibe. It’s a total turn off. Stuck up, conceited girls are a genuine cancer on society. Not just good looking ones. In general. Johnny Depp got exactly what h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 03:43 PM
3

Once the girl comes back to you oneitis goes away
/r/seduction17/04/21 08:01 AM
1

Biggest downside is women change a lot from 20 to 35 in personality, so the long-term likelihood of such a marriage is questionable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 09:54 PM
1

I think that’s speaking more to their insecurity than anything else. That’s not even a realistic expectation. I don’t care about a girl’s sexual history unless she goes around fucking guys w/o a condom and i am Next on the list, that’s about it. If you’re hot like you and you want to fuck me i’m getting lucky. Or if you fuck someone else then that guy is really lucky and I’m not. That’s how i see it. It’s funny how the more negative shit you say and think the less positive interactions you have
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 10:14 PM
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Some terms are really offensive and negative!! I never call girls sluts, guys betabux, etc. i don’t agree with you on the point of this post but it doesn’t mean we can’t be civil about it. Nothing wrong with a career i say. I came from a family where Dad worked and Mom was at home. But dual-income partners is very common now, to support one household. It may have been an unintentional advantage to employers and not for employees though, that coincided with cost of living exploding and income sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 09:10 PM
1

You are kind of messed up though. I came to this thread to express my disdain for dating and feeling disadvantaged in dating and ended up talking to a woman who volunteered every physical attribute that i find ideal in a woman!! I don’t feel bitter at all now, just somewhat envious of your partner. Are you some spy deployed to eradicate bitterness in dating on PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:51 PM
1

I am 39, and am extremely familiar directly with lusting after younger women. I tend to like shorter women with your attributes but that is very subjective as to the looks score. Your age does not change your score really because you acknowledged it and worked harder to stay fit. Fine you are a 9/10. Whatever. Slim girls with big boobs are MEGA hot. It sounds like in your case reduction helped make you look even hotter. If we had dated and we had mutual physical attraction and sexual chemistry, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:31 PM
1

I don’t see guys lying about a relationship to fuck. I see guys acting the total opposite of what woman such as yourself preach and getting a relationship. And outside of marriage, all you are promised for fucking IS the moment. Don’t kid yourself, and that goes both ways. If a girl fucked me then didn’t like the way i fuck or how i look naked and thus wanted no further contact, perfectly valid reasons to ghost me after fucking, I wouldn’t care at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:01 PM
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Based on your reply, which I acknowledge, is extremely thorough and attentive to detail, you are basically a unicorn looks wise. A legit 10/10. I am not looking at a photo (nor am i requesting one), but that’s what I am Inferring based on your stated physical attributes. And that’s not the standard that I meant girls have to strive to be. Think the movie crazy stupid love, the transformation of Cal Weaver. He doesn’t become Ryan Gosling. He becomes much better than before. My point is woman can …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:00 PM
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There are tons and tons of guys like me out there. And if that same woman who got ghosted after sex dates a guy, makes him wait for sex, and he TRIES to show real interest, totally fine waiting for sex, and she is cold, non emotional, or unresponsive about it in response, then she does not have my sympathy, sorry. And why do girls get all been out of shape anyway I want to get ghosted after sex? There is no contract or rule that says the guy in a relationship with you if he has consensual sex wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 05:54 PM
2

No you are uncouth, don’t read shit don’t listen and put words in my mouth. I am GLAD you are blocking me. Thanks!!! 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 05:03 PM
1

I was her age. 36 and she was 35. I am 39 now. I made $160k a year and did 200 push ups a day, flawless form, with an hour of jump roping, 3-4 times week with intermittent fasting at that time. I just took a boxing lesson the other day btw, first time ever, i wasn’t even sore after, and I know I could seriously damage someone with a punch. I dressed well. Not some pansy. I always paid for our dates. I didn’t like to drive so she picked me up. I did EVERYTHING i thought i was supposed to do as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:54 PM
1

Like yourself. I’d argue also not just attractive, but decent looking too. Or even average. If a woman is none of those things she can make herself attractive in 2 months. It is super easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:43 PM
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and I am saying i disagree. Who are we talking about? Women in their 20s? 30s? 40s? I dated a girl in her 30s, HOT, who wanted to fuck btw. She slept in my bed on our first two dates. I didn’t want to right away, i really wanted something long term and thought waiting would make sense. We made out in public more than once totally sober. After I told her my feelings, she vanished. There is a guy up in this post, self described as attractive, NEVER got a relationship with a woman. Also who initiat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:33 PM
1

Roflmao. You now change it to -some- men, and admit you are married to one but he doesn’t count!!! What about your Dad? Your uncle? Male cousins, brothers, teachers? Men who serve you meals, wash your car, guards? Do you male bash in front of your man with your lady friends? Does he nod and agree? Attractive men, normal, men genuinely want relationships. Ever went inside a male friend’s dating inbox and seen how many send perfectly friendly messages to women, commenting on their profile, and get…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:18 PM
1

Why are you so fast to assume men don’t want a relationship? You dismiss the notion outright. Probably have overlooked many.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:14 PM
1

You have been in a loving relationship for 15 years. And you are an attractive woman, from the way you describe yourself. You are are living proof of the OP’s theory, that a loving relationships come by easier for women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:07 PM
1

OMFG will people already paired off stop commenting on this shit! You are done looking if you paired off. Good grief. You have nothing to contribute to this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:25 AM
1

Nope bullshit. Tons of men who want to court a women properly never get that chance because women like you lump us in with them on sight. Generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:23 AM
2

This is really about men’s social power relative to women’s, or lack thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:20 AM
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the mental gymnastics women do to say yeahhh that’s not an advantage never fails to astound me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:17 AM
1

Yeah but you found a partner 15 years ago. Your words. How can you meaningfully contribute to the topic of this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:10 AM
1

I’m 39 lol. Over the hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 05:35 AM
1

I mean i think skinny girls with big boobs are hot. I’ve always thought that. I wouldn’t refer to girls with a certain body type as slutty cuz that’s weird. And no touching girls anywhere is really wrong for any reason at all. I wasn’t surprised to read you have a partner either. I wouldn’t call it lucky either I’d call it inevitable. So why are you on this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 05:35 AM
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Completely incorrect. My relative dated his wife off tinder for 3 years, moved in, got married. Found the one. She openly told me getting a date is so, so, so easy offline that it was like shopping. That she picked him, the one, out of hundreds of guys, and if he could do it so could I. You think i had 100s of girls in my inbox? Or real life? More dates lead to more relationships. Women have tons of dates in spades, so a natural consequence is more opportunity for relationship. And btw where did…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:45 AM
1

That is not slutty. You sound extremely physically attractive and the guys you date are so idiotic, so So stupid that they resort to actually turning that into a negative thing. Seriously. Morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:36 AM
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I’m backpedalling on nothing. I don’t even CARE that girls take separate cars i’m fine with it. I pointed it out to demonstrate a safety variable that makes dating more comfortable, one less thing to worry about. I have NEVER insisted on it. In fact, the last girl i dated picked ME up because i hate driving. You don’t know a fucking thing about me. I don’t expect any girls to do anything i say i barely talk to any. I call out bullshit though which is women who interact well with you guys, give o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:54 AM
1

What’s your body type out of curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:18 AM
1

Its fucking ridiculous women won’t shame this type of behavior cuz it contradicts their narrative of men only wanting sex!! Men’s feelings mean jack shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:17 AM
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Its so fucking weird right? Its just because it would admit an area of privilege for women that doesn’t exist for men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:15 AM
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I’ve drawn it from many studies on ok cupid, many lady friends who exactly fit into dating how i have posted. It boggles my mind that people here don’t admit girls find dates and relationships easily if they are just decent looking and up. A guy, alexander grace, did a youtube experiment on a girl trying OLD as a guy. Very happy to show you a link.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:08 AM
1

Nice point and nicely stated
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:06 AM
1

I am referring to the western world not those places. If some western women saw those places first hand they may not complain so much. Or maybe they still would
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:06 AM
2

No you imbecile. I don’t ever want ride with me Nor did i say that. I am saying most girls just meet up guys the way outlined, scores of them, for free meals, free drinks, a privilege very few guys ever experience, and actually have the gall to complain about that shit like its a greek tragedy. Nice try on straw manning my post though. I never dated much ever. Women never showed up. I never cared about getting a blowjob. I wanted to meet and pay for dinner and laugh and talk. Never did that. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:03 AM
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Untrue. Women flake and ghost on dates all the time. 99 percent of dates are meet in public, the guy has to pay, take separate cars, and the guy has to sell himself. For the opportunity to explore the possibility of a romantic relationship. Laughable to state that is not a good position to be in. Oh also far, far more divorces are initiated by women than men. Number’s Don’t lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:11 PM
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Flaking and ghosting by women to me is the ultimate ultimate hypocrisy by women. Don’t just want me for sex! Get to know me for me! Start a family with me! You can’t do any of these things if the woman never shows up on the first date after enthusiastically handing you her number and high-fiving you. Flaking is the very reason there is nothing wrong with a guy pursuing just sex from a girl and nothing else. She is signaling that she will leave you anyway, so why not get off if you will get no co…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 07:13 AM
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Naw you are harping on it and that is clear. He said specifically it’s more about women responding to the best looking guy in the room than anything else. And in addition, speaking from anecdotal and statistical studies from OK cupid, women DO fawn over good looking white guys. That is not in dispute. White guys have a statistically higher response rate online. Just like black women have the lowest response rate per ok cupid. White guys with asian girls in SF phenomenon goes back to the early 90…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 01:18 PM
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He said later it doesn’t have to be white. He was giving an example. It’s also not even racist to say lots of hot girls are nicer to tall white guys. That is a fact proven by lots of data.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 05:41 AM
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Nope you are harping on that. He specifically said in his response the distinction is between good looking and average looking, regardless of race. And said the best looking guy in his situation happened to be white. You are ignoring that part entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:10 PM
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No he is NOT he that you are getting away from The point of his posts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:36 PM
2

I get exactly what you are saying amigo. Exactly why i checked out years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:35 PM
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My $$$ is on women. Women rarely agree to these type of experiments. It exposes their BS for what it is. Ask women to go OLD as a guy THEN really watch them get astonished.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:41 PM
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I never ever shame women for that. I know girls who have slept with over 100 guys. I didn’t care. It didn’t mean shit to me. I’ve made it clear what I hate About the dating game, their high notch count is not it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 12:05 PM
1

Have you seen Friday night lights. You are kind of like Jason Street’s character.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 02:49 PM
2

Online dating/being at a bar, a social event. A cute woman absolutely has the upper hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:51 AM
1

The bags under your eyes. And low sleep. That’s really bad. You need 7-8 minimum. And a skinny face. You need to eat really really slow for that for a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 12:05 AM
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I have a fat face. The closest i ever got to Chad face was eat all my meals super super slow, IE never stuff my face. It was hard but it totally worked. You sound like your skin care regimen needs a total reassessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 11:47 PM
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I think you can still LOOK your best at 5’6 with a shaved head. How is your teeth, skin regimen, do you have a fat face, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 11:25 PM
1

I am the total opposite end of the spectrum from you. Can i DM you for a potential critique?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 11:06 PM
1

Are you serious? Are you like a ripped chad and you still can’t get matches from hotties?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 10:53 PM
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I don’t even think of it as seduction its like basic interesting convo 101.
/r/seduction31/03/21 08:57 PM
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David De’Angelo shit is so funny that’s why I liked it. Acting like the girl is chasing you is ALWAYS funny irrespective of the outcome, and you reverse from insecure, doubtful, to comfortable in your skin right away. I’ve done it just for funny conversation, I had my friend’s girlfriend and her lady friend in tears over dinner, when they asked if i was going to exchange numbers with her lady friend. I said ‘ahh i get asked for my number by so many different girls each day, i just can’t say yes …
/r/seduction31/03/21 05:22 PM
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Spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:02 PM
1

This!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:02 PM
1

They overlook genuine men ALL the time. That is total garbage. They could do their part, read every message for that one genuine guy, and/or message guys on their own. They balk at both ideas and shoot themselves in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:17 AM
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You know whats crazy? Women on youtube when they talk about MGTOW - they are totally silent on how much easier dating is for them, and how alimony and child support courts disfavor men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:15 PM
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No not true at all women ignore friendly messages commenting on their profile ALL the time. In fact, i just used in my profile pic a picture of me, messaged a girl, polite, short, not creepy not sexual, read and deleted. Then i sent her a message from a different profile, with a Chad pic. Asked ‘hey want to hook up 2nite?’ She replied instantly ‘sure when are you free :)’ girls go straight to the best looking photos in their inbox and ignore the rest. The most full of shit a woman can be online …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:00 PM
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I HATE OLD. I thought i would find a gf, get married, have kids. Never went on a single date. Ghosted and flaked on countless times. All while i saw blogs and real women get dates and relationships like candy. And complaining about it. Now i just bang escorts. Much better 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:58 PM
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I DO NOT care about notch count at all. If you are petite, pretty, and sexually submissive, i WILL fuck you. The single thing i don’t like is girls having unprotected sex then coming to fuck me. That I can’t/won’t do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:36 PM
3

Women assess size almost instantly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:14 PM
4

John Goodman is a huge guy. I’d reckon there is a tiny sex kitten out there who found him attractive in his younger days
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:02 PM
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Oh yeah totally. I haven’t chased girls for a good decade, but when i did, a girl getting up and leaving her friends with you to get the drink was to me an indicator of interest. I also sometimes threw in right after she said yes to the friends ‘may i steal your friend for a minute? I’ll have her back in a flash, I promise’ it was less about pussy and showing i wasn’t being serious about anything
/r/seduction19/03/21 10:30 PM
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It gets really funny if you run into her she comes looking for you and brings it up. And then you smile and say ‘what kind of guy brings a drink TO a girl? And all her friends? You didn’t think i was serious did you?’
/r/seduction19/03/21 09:47 PM
1

I used to say come with me to the bar, lets get it together. It was my test to see if she’d get up from her friends. If she said no, then I would say ‘may i bring it to you? Your friends too? What are y’all drinking?’ Then I’d leave and never come back.
/r/seduction19/03/21 09:30 PM
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Its dumb i dont care THAT much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 05:14 AM
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To want to hang out with me. Make plans and meet up. No expecs or desires beyond thAt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 08:28 PM
1

My cousin found his girlfriend off tinder. They dated for 3 years, moved in together, then got married. They are that lovey-dovey happy couple you see on social media. His now wife told me she didn’t believe in soulmates until she met him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 03:38 PM
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This is straight up a legalized, and enforced version of saving the damsel in distress. But she isn’t in distress.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 11:57 PM
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You are just sheltered and cannot picture these things to be reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 11:56 PM
1

Exactly. I got the best of everything. But its temporary not forever.
/r/seduction04/03/21 09:09 PM
1

That is rare as fuck. I wouldn’t go to any city for that. I had a sugar baby once who was like that. It was the perfect, perfect arrangement. No PUA, no alpha male could have done better than I did in that regard. My first girlfriend was like that too. The rule for such girls is hot, sane, and single - pick two. And the premise of your question is wrong, you have to REALLY look for one and come up with your own approach for that. They aren’t around everywhere.
/r/seduction04/03/21 03:12 PM
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Girls that are down to earth, small town-ish, but happen to be hot, are the only type of girls that pique my curiosity. I literally don’t care about the rest. Once you have connected with one, it is very hard to forget.
/r/seduction04/03/21 08:55 AM
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Not frosh parties no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 08:20 PM
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Even hot guys don’t bang hot girls consistently. That is RARE among RARE. Like an NFL player
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:10 PM
0

Jealousy plain and simple. OF is taking the world by storm right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 03:09 PM
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I don’t see how that is sufficiently analogous at all. And you don’t read very well. I gave clear examples and sources. You skipped over all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:13 AM
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🤷‍♂️ it happened
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 03:55 AM
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If she made more $$ than you at divorce that didn’t factor into the child support payments?
/r/MGTOW223/02/21 02:35 AM
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A thin girl with big boobs that aren’t fake is so rare, at a strip every guy will want a dance with her provided she isn’t a snobby bitch. If she does pay for play, it’s unreal how many guys will want her services. The same is true of OF. I would say ANY girl who really puts effort into her looks can make a good living off OF
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 11:51 PM
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I have never in my entire life seen a thin girl with big boobs not make bank, online or offline. At strip clubs they dominated the customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 11:25 PM
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The girls i like, thin girls with big boobs, ALWAYS make bank. Quite a few are buying houses in their early 20s. You might call that a niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:27 PM
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I am envious man it sounds like you got the whole package
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:45 PM
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No i know quite a few. An girl i used to bang made $18K on one month and just tried it out. She is hot but she isn’t ‘the hottest’. Any girl who is a 7 and up can make a very real, consistent income from OF with the right lighting and photos, and branding. And they never have to show their face. That sounds 100 times better than some highly taxed location dependent office job for half the pay and twice the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:46 PM
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I think escorting is going out of style. Only fans is taking the world by storm. And two why the hell would you go into an office where you make $70K when you can make $10K in one month off only fans, directly paid to you or your company formed by you that you own
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:38 PM
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Wow! When you guys get married her student loans will be your debt too. I am always touched by how seriously people commit to their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:13 PM
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Disgusting to YOU subjectively
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 01:49 AM
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Nope never seen it. I can’t say all prostituting isn’t trafficking, but a ton isn’t, and prostitutes aren’t going to come out and say it because they prefer to remain anonymous. The SJW groups pick a target least likely to defend themselves. There are two examples that come to mind - Reason did an article on K-girl bust in seattle that made a very convincing case the women were never trafficked - they had access to their own cell phones and the entire property, none offered to testify for the pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 01:40 AM
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Thats why some slept with me for free and forgot The money twice and bought me lunch in public. And left me their personal cell number when they told me they would be quitting for awhile. To show their dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 01:22 AM
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Ive had sober girls drive in their own car to my pad to bang regularly. And they initiated it. They didn’t have a bodyguard or pimp, some i knew their real name. Never had any issues except some kept cancelling right b4 the meet. They made twice the $$$ i did in my job in 1/2 the time. And they screened clients aggressively. You do something slightly off not only would they leave but you would be blacklisted from seeing other girls as well. Some Also told me that older men would give them $$ jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 01:21 AM
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How does this work when you are married?
/r/seduction18/02/21 03:04 PM
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I believe women have zero empathy or any sense of men’s dating struggles, particularly online. However. I agree and get really disgusted by some guys who respond to women’s posts in the way you said. Its totally fucked up. I don’t get happy when women get hurt in relationships or dating. I don’t get happy when that happens to anyone actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:30 AM
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What rights dont women have right now? I think cat calling, sexual harrasment are fucking awful and NEED to be addressed, the latter definitely is being addressed, but those aren’t rights.
/r/MGTOW216/02/21 12:23 AM
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I think the radical feminists, the ones true feminists don’t like, have the biggest voice right now and are controlling the airwaves. And that’s the problem. The Gillette superbowl commercial is a glaring example. I dont ANY true MGTOW would say cat calling, sexual harrassment, women cant vote, women should get paid less for the same job as a man (which is not actually true at all its way more complicated than that),etc is ok. I certainly don’t believe in it. But i come from a very pro feminist …
/r/MGTOW216/02/21 12:19 AM
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Hey dont be rude to her. No one should be rude on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:20 PM
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That is so fucked up. Sorry guys treated you that way. Asking Q’s, paying for the first date is a must.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:53 PM
1

I have never banged a girl In my life that wasn’t slender. Both p4p and non p4p. I am mad attracted to short petite girls for life. If they are hot that’s a bonus. I even saw a woman at work the other day, 55, I instantly could tell she was really hot in her younger years. I found her attractive right then and there. Not just physically but demeanor. I don’t really crave sex that much anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:39 PM
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Around 29, I had been alone for 6 years. I just started making $$ then got dumped by a girl. I got online and tried to meet girls, and it was a total, total Shit show. As years went on I made more money and got more fit, but it had zero impact on my dating life. I became very angry at the notion that all men were just after sex. I just wanted to date and talk, get to know a girl, I wasn’t worried about getting laid at all. But 99 percent of girls didn’t want to meet up. And even if they did, the…
/r/MGTOW213/02/21 03:17 AM
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Open doors. Share food and drinks with my girl Roommate. Smile and try to be warm when I meet women for the first time, in any context. Take photos when girls ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 05:28 PM
1

I am actually going to write one really soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 11:23 PM
0

Maybe after you fucked 3 times
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 11:27 PM
2

I’ve known this for years and have preached it for years. A woman can be a 6 or up and she WILL find someone attractive! Easily. I’ve told all of my lady friends but they balk at making the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 10:22 AM
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I’d take casual sex with attractive girls and loneliness over no casual sex with attractive girls and loneliness
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 10:16 AM
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I put out a link showing a girl going Online dating as a guy. None of the women on Reddit wanted to respond To it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 10:12 AM
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Shut up man don’t be so negative. Get married without a prenup, love conquers all
/r/MGTOW209/02/21 08:23 AM
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Never, ever, ever was that my thought process about sex any what led to me to red pill. It was purely not getting dates. And then after years realizing how different getting dates and relationships was for men versus women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 05:34 PM
2

Shut up he is guilty! Her tears say more than real evidence ever could
/r/MGTOW205/02/21 05:58 AM
1

I value them a lot but sometimes too much. Hanging with friends with families cannot be a real source of happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 06:23 AM
1

I mostly feel it when I see young hot married couples on Instagram. Or my friends who fit that profile 20 years ago. Not ugly people.
/r/MGTOW203/02/21 11:15 PM
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The OP makes some extremely powerful assumptions. 99% of the girls who flaked on me/ghosted me after acting really interested to go on a date were girls I were excited to see purely just to go on a date. It’s so weird and I bet $1 million she has stood up guys who acted exactly the way she is preaching. I never reall thought about getting dates to fuck, but go on a real date, possibly her into a relationship. Pick her up maybe, meet her there, dress Good, talk etc. I never did that because I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 07:55 AM
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It’s so weird How I know this but I feel so so so shitty when I see happy couples that I am convinced have it all. Like a history together, a rock to lean on, etc. I am 40 and never had that. I guess that is freedom.
/r/MGTOW203/02/21 07:46 AM
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Yeah this is exactly exactly what I have done in sex. I’m not sure if I am inclined toward it because that first girl I fucked got me into it. I literally need to it get turned on so I’m not a match for girls who like vanilla sex or are dominant. I’ve requested to be slapped In the face pretty hard too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 11:49 PM
1

Love this. I am always worried about being shamed for approaching
/r/seduction29/01/21 05:17 AM
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It terrifies the shit out of women because it reveals a disparity that’s not in the favor of men, including the women here to say it’s possible to find someone from OLD if we try hard enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 03:57 AM
1

How old are you? Are you in a relationship? How many times have you been rejected for a relationship and/or date? It sounds like it’s easy for YOU to get a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 04:49 AM
1

Well said!!!
/r/MGTOW225/01/21 04:41 AM
1

I thought he meant red light district therapy
/r/MGTOW225/01/21 03:08 AM
3

Great post guys
/r/MGTOW225/01/21 02:07 AM
1

Yeah I’ve done it politely and gotten a LASH out in response. It’s one of the most unspoken parts about approaching. You do not have to be crass, overtly sexual, or anything like that to get a rejection that is totally disproportionate to your approach
/r/seduction24/01/21 05:50 AM
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It’s one of the very rare easy ways for a girl to step inside a guys shoes. I had a female online dating coach go into my profile and do the same. She was beyond shocked and slammed her laptop shut for a few days after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 05:45 AM
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Hahahaaaa OMG so you think she was in on it? Like she was lying about even trying? OMG either your lying or you are in dential. Idea, why don’t YOU try it and see how it goes? The video is totally real by the way. This guy has no reason to lie it’s free. And to be fair and objective, I think his profile, pics, and message guidance (but still her responsibility) could have been way better, to give her a better chance
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:55 AM
1

I’ve said ‘wow someone ate their bitch flakes this morning’ or ‘oh my bad I was looking for a classy girl! You must be the other girl!’ Then turn around as walk away
/r/seduction24/01/21 12:49 AM
0

Not frowned. Intruding. Sexual harassment. Girls are angry as fuck when you approach them. That is what feminists and pro women guys will not dare say outloud. She doesn’t need your approach. She already has her friends and her entire social life on her cell phone. When you cold approach it’s like waltzing in a boss’s office for an interview without an appointment
/r/seduction24/01/21 12:48 AM
1

No OLD is online dating. And you can click on my link it’s safe I swear. I don’t hurt Anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:39 AM
1

Who cares watch it and see a girl is doing the very thing you claim is easy and can’t get a single reply
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:38 AM
1

Ok. I welcome you to try this experiment out yourself. EVERY woman who believes OLD is easy for men or we are just lazy should try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:34 AM
1

Alexander Grace OLD dating experiment on YouTube. I just posted the link to it. A girl goes on his OLD account to try and get him dates. Since you say stupid shit like it’s easy for men to get dates OLD and they are lazy if they don’t figured I’d toss some real life examples of a woman seeing first hand how much harder it is to do it as a a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:33 AM
1

Or you could stop trolling and say getting dates OLD is easy. Here is proof https://youtu.be/DZTIbHIsIYw my guess is you will not watch it because this video flies in the face of women saying dating is not hard for women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:26 AM
1

Are you kidding me? He will get zero replies, two ghosts, and a girl vanished mid convo after sending out 100 messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:05 AM
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It’s ok you talked and listened and you weren’t dismissive. I am not super lonely anymore I fucked lots of really hot escorts throughout my 30s and did a lot of drugs but I have actually stopped that entirely for the time being (contrary to what I originally thought, a lots of pleasure seeking didn’t make me any happier) and I’m loving trying to keep a schedule and have hobbies. It is exciting!! On occasion I get sad when I see my friends with wives and children and think that they are so so far…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:25 PM
1

That’s ok. For what it’s worth I am appreciative of our exchange. I gave up around 8 years ago, sometimes I came back in, tried to get dates, failed, reinforced my beliefs, because all my women friends were enjoying dating like candy. It felt horrible and awful to try so so hard at self improvement and it have zero impact on your dating life, whereas all girls had to do was look pretty and had lots of dates lined up. Now I’m so much older I just feel like you find the one in your early 20s or la…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:34 PM
1

OLD is online dating in general. All the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:24 PM
1

20?!?? OMG. OLD was a new thing I think in 2011. Supposedly it wasn’t the shit show it is now!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:03 PM
1

Yea no I wouldn’t know that at all. For someone you don’t know I completely understand and empathize with that. It must suck. But there are lots of methods to protect yourself against that and yes they take some fun out of dating but so what. You come first!!! Fuck going back to a guys house, drunk or not. He has to EARN your feelings of comfort and safety! Honestly, the only 3 dates I went on in 3 years, every girl came back to my house or I went to theirs pretty soon but I have zero qualms abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 06:34 PM
1

How old are you? And OLD or not it’s harder for guys. Are you going to seriously tell me more women aren’t on OLD than ever? There are people who found love from OLD. I gave examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 06:24 PM
1

Getting ghosted after getting a girlfriend? Holy shit that sucks!! That girl must have tons of options
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 06:06 PM
1

I actually just told you examples of where my life was threatened. I was bullied and assaulted in high school (physically) to the point I wanted to kill my self. I have been threatened by drunk guys 2 to 3 times in my life where they meant to do me physical harm. I’ve been punched probably three or four times throughout my life very hard. I got in a fistfight where I got bloodied real good when I was younger. And I noticed over time I started being very careful about who I associate with, partic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 06:00 PM
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https://youtu.be/DZTIbHIsIYw watch it and tell me your thoughts. THIS is what happened every time. And cold approaching fucking sucks. I have not mentioned I will concede is I was losing hair since my late 20s. That is an instant turn off for a lot of women. As to you talking about knowing how hard it is and you have a boyfriend? Not surprised. Seems like every women here has a partner, so it happened for you. It didn’t for me. You say my it’s personal responsibility, I say it’s technology and C…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:44 PM
1

I am saying they block to instantly cut that person off their life. I support that. I support anyone who treats you like shit you just cut them off and ghost them fast. The more you do that the less likely it’s going to seem like a problem in your life When you enforce boundaries. I also know girls who will not get drunk with guys on dates it’s out of the question. And I’m not talking about the scenario where a woman walking down the alley and gets raped out of nowhere. I’m talking about acquain…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:29 PM
1

I am not incompetent, haha. I was making $160K a year when I was 35. I don’t make that now but I certainly could. And was great at working out. And have a sick place. I did traveling too. It’s just you don’t understand what it’s like to be a man and totally ignored at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:23 PM
1

How old are you? And why don’t you answer my questions? This exchange feels very one-sided
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:18 PM
1

Yes. Too old now to find love. Or a date where I can go and a girl is excited and so am I. Missed the boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:15 PM
1

I haven’t been on a date in 3 years. Before that it was 6 years. And I really hate the way you don’t actually read what I am saying happened. As if I didn’t try or didn’t care. You just ignore it. Why? Is it because you have never had to think about these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:11 PM
1

Notice how you skipped over EVERYTHING I said. Typical dismissive woman!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:11 PM
1

Rapes happen most commonly in bedrooms, campus dorms, and sometimes there is lots of alcohol involved (but not always). Not at Starbucks. Any guys who double texted my lady friends got ghosted and blocked instantly. They had so many guys on their roster only the most trustworthy and safe would get farther than a second date. I don’t know what your screening process is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:09 PM
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I tried for seven years. I was at work out King. Made a shit ton of money. Dressed well. Was kind to women. I hired online dating coaches to change my profile and photos. Messaged women never never in a sexual way. Never dick pics. Approached countless women at bars. I did EVERYTHING. Do not lecture me about trying and shit you did that worked because you are a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:08 PM
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Why am I not surprised. Watch the link. Are you scared? Scared to see a world where everything you tried to say or do doesn’t matter when it comes to getting dates? It’s easy as fuck to talk the way you do when all you have to do is be reactive in dating 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:00 PM
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I didn’t name call you. I just showed you a link that shows in practice what actually happens. I didn’t lash out at you. Trying many solutions only to run into the same wall got me to where I am today.Are you a girl by the way?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:58 PM
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I dated a girl who was raped almost two decades ago. And I have lady friends who were sexually assaulted. I do know. It’s sad. I told them to always meet guys in public and never ever go to a guys house or have a guy over unless you were absolutely sure he was safe, i.e. make them jump through hoops through a few dates first. I also encouraged pepper spray. Some had me over at their house for five hours alone and told me openly they trusted me in terms of safety. I cannot picture what it would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:56 PM
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Keep being dismissive of the reality and circumstances men actually face. Did you even care to watch the link? Or is it too real for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:52 PM
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https://youtu.be/DZTIbHIsIYw here is how hard. Here is the biggest problem you don’t understand. Online dating has taken over so much that women themselves only wanted me to go through online and not in person. Cellphone dependency is a very real thing. If you approach a girl while she’s on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, with her friends, while also on OLD apps, you’ve literally intruded her digital bubble and social circle. It’s like short-circuiting her brain. Cold approaching is more discourag…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:49 PM
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In case you can’t tell I’m joking. An app that is DESIGNED for women to make the first move. And guess what bumble hired less than two years ago? And anti-ghost Consultant. Because ghosting on Bumble with epidemic. Girls would match, and never make the first move. Feminism does not promote the girls making the first move or paying for the first date. I have yet to have a girl who did that in my life for past 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:47 PM
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See how hard Mrs. Degree https://youtu.be/DZTIbHIsIYw does that look fun to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:45 PM
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All of my bosses have been women, many of whom determined my raises. In my line of work. Many made $200K plus. On the low end $150k. And not saying it’s because they are women just saying women working and making bank is not a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:44 PM
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https://youtu.be/DZTIbHIsIYw here it what it is like to be a guy in OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:41 PM
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YouTube the match.com girl. Case in point
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:40 PM
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Here https://youtu.be/DZTIbHIsIYw
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:39 PM
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Get on bumble man! I have sooo many matches and messages, I can only say yes so many times out of this ocean of women wanting to date me 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:37 PM
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https://youtu.be/DZTIbHIsIYw see HOW hard
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:36 PM
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https://youtu.be/DZTIbHIsIYw watch how difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:29 PM
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Wow business insider!!! What an great source!! Ok Cupid is a total total shitshow, and it’s listed as #3? Even professional OLD men say ok Cupid is hard (100 messages for 3 replies ). And here YOU go https://youtu.be/DZTIbHIsIYw
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:25 PM
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No older woman in shape too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:23 PM
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It’s not that hard. If you aren’t at least a cute girl. Work on skin care, diet, sleep, water fashion, and exercise for 3 months straight. Then take good selfies. Watch your attention skyrocket online.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:22 PM
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I just gave you clear counter examples. Two were in California, one was overseas. I know plenty more. One of the girls in the relationship told me OLD before she met her guys was so so so easy it was literally like shopping. Her words of encouragement were ‘I never believed in soulmates before I met him, and he found me out of 100s of other guys after me, so it’s possible for any guy to do it!’ I lie about nothing. And I don’t cold approach girls because That in itself is becoming frowned about.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:13 PM
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Not true. I know girls who moved closer and closer to the one and finally found him that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 03:59 PM
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Pre covid in an affluent neighborhood in public around lots of People, you do not have to think about it. You know what I saw at work? Co-worker Girls comparing online dating profiles, laughing and giggling about how many dates they were getting. And strategy and how many options they had. It sure looked fun to me. They were experiencing the good and the bad in dating. While I was getting zero replies and experiencing nothing. Try going on OLD as a guy friend, message girls and your will see fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 03:57 PM
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Those men were jerks. Men don’t get approached as often and are far nicer about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:19 AM
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You are dumb. OLD is a nightmare for a guy. Put up good pics and send out a million messages? Silence. Send out well written messages? Silence. A girl replies and you replies back? Silence. A girl replies and agrees to a date and you confirm the day of? Silence. You honestly think that is a fun experience? Go log in OLD as a guy for 5 days, then thank your lucky Stars you are a woman with a husband!!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:18 AM
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Terrible example. You are with your husband!! Dating worked for you. Get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:15 AM
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OLD eliminated a lot of disadvantages women had. A lot a lot a lot. And made it 200000 times harder for men to the point where it’s totally arbitrary to even try OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:12 AM
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Naw man attractive women can screen like crazy, require meeting up in public only with lots of people around, etc. she has 100s of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:10 AM
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Women ghost betas who literally would have been appreciative to buy them dinner, and talk about the week. All. The. Time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:09 AM
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You are fucking wrong. My relative met his wife on Tinder. They dates for 3 years, moved in together, then got married. I’ve been to okcupid and Instagram weddings too. A date can and DOES lead to a long term relationship. Happily married couples super in love. Even if there are lots of shitty dates out there. The ability to get dates and go on them all the time, even if many are shitty, give you experience, and the chance that you go on that one date where you just click.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:07 AM
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You get way way more dating practice and feel for what you like versus you don’t like. Unlike dateless average looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:02 AM
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Shut up liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:59 AM
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One of my two Tinder dates in my whole did that to me. Got me to pay for an expensive meal then dipped!!! It’s so hilarious what girls can get away with
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:50 AM
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Ever heard of the match.com girl who kept spreadsheets to eat out in NY? Then got a bf who DIDNT wine and dine her 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:46 AM
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Really?!? I think that’s the one area of ‘equality’ women are super silent about. Check out bumble. How many women message after getting a match versus ghost?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:37 AM
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It should be ken
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:34 AM
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Lol have you read the looksmaxing article?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:33 AM
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A hard time finding ‘dates’
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:31 AM
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See my reply above, getting dates easier alone makes it not 50/50. Go try OLD as a guy and see how far you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:44 AM
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Getting dates signify initial interest. Initial interest is a pre-requisite to sustained interest, which in turn leads to a relationship, love, and marriage. Women trivialize this aspect because they have it in spades and don’t really think about what it would be like to be totally alone and ignored for dates the way guys get ignored on Tinder and also IRL approaches which are more than ever, harshly discouraged. Despite all this talk on the internet about Women wanting to be cold approached, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:43 AM
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If a girl accuses you of rape, that’s the end of your life in college and in the real world. Whether it’s true or not.
/r/MGTOW222/01/21 12:14 AM
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Not true I know some 4-5, 10 years later, marriage kids and house
/r/seduction08/01/21 03:10 PM
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How the fuck do you not do these things? People in a real relationship do all of these things on social media.
/r/seduction07/01/21 02:40 AM
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Not just sexually deprived. Deprived from going on dates and relationships with women. Saying it’s just sex is extremely dismissive of men, and typically a way to ignore the very real loneliness men go through that women could never understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 12:56 AM
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your husband must have a difficult time with you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:31 PM
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Gracefully courting versus repetitively asking is a very fine line to walk though many shouldn’t pursue it. Me included 😂
/r/seduction05/01/21 06:34 AM
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At a nightclub I saw a crew of Mexican guys trying to get some girls to come to an after party. The girls said no more than once. The guys left, came back, each guy holding a rose, handed to to the girls, asked again, politely but confidently. The girls said yes and got in their truck. It’s not at all my style but it was pretty smooth.
/r/seduction04/01/21 09:40 PM
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Anything but a yes and where am I meeting you is a no. Plain and simple. It is a complete waste of time to interpret a response any other way than that. Guys should not chase women at all. Even ONE follow up is kissing ass. Why give someone that much attention who clearly doesn’t care about you? I am shocked that either girls or guys, in this current climate, would want to encourage any type of behavior besides ask once.
/r/seduction04/01/21 08:28 PM
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Make yourself hotter. Work your ASS off In that department and the attention will come
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:16 AM
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I’m going to have to disagree with you there. I’ve been rejected, sometimes by hot girls, and sometimes by girls I didn’t consider hot at all. There are better looking guys than this guy who would date your or at least hook up with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:14 AM
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Compare a woman putting up a selfie on Facebook versus women silently rating a guy’s dating profile photos from their phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:50 AM
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I think one of the key differences is most doctors and psychologists will tell you that 50 percent of your happiness comes from your relationships with women, ie it is vital. From a tribal standpoint, this makes perfect sense. No one back then thought about this shit we discuss. But we all know it is extremely easy as a guy to go months, if not years, and never have any interactions with women. Because the ones we do initiate, and we usually shot down. The rise of OLD and social media has magnif…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:24 AM
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Sorry that happened to you. FWIW I am sure not all girls lap up Social media. Not the ones looking for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 11:05 PM
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I’ve done everything I wanted to do with escorts. It is an awesome awesome feeling, I wouldn’t change it, but it is a fleeting, hollow pursuit, and that became apparent as time goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 08:41 PM
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Oh not you brother it’s just I feel kind of lame that’s all. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 06:46 AM
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Lol are you being sarcastic?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 05:43 AM
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Around 26-27, I got dropped by a girl I was dating, really hard. After serious making out on a few dates she said you have no qualities I like and now I find myself unattracted to you. B4 that I got dumped by a girl who asked me out on a date. B4 that I chased a girl for 3 months, got exactly one date with her, too dumb to see I had no shot. She was extremely flirty and touchy feely but always had issues meeting up. After all of this I went to jail around 29. Drying out in a jail cell, I’d been …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 02:54 AM
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I’ve banged so many hot girls I am kind of burnt out, like I don’t have carnal lust anymore, so just focusing on work now. I preferred online stuff with smoke shows but only fans girls are really really stuck up they want more cash than some guys pay IRL for girls just as hot as they are. Starting to take oyster supplements, considering TRT, and HGH as well to reinvigorate my libido, I spent about $40-ish on only fans. I have a hardcore body fetish so it was nice but not ultimately worth it.
/r/MGTOW224/12/20 05:52 PM
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Yeah I did. I like chatting with smoke shows and sending $$ to for custom nudes to get off, but these girls do NEITHER!! Having seen strippers (banged), escorts, and only fans, onlyfans girls are officially the most stuck up girls I have ever seen in my entire life. I paid but disconnected my membership pretty fast and I am never going back.
/r/MGTOW224/12/20 03:42 PM
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Only fans sucks!!! I tried it and i am done!!!!
/r/MGTOW224/12/20 04:00 AM
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I have about 3 years in savings. But fuck that next time around I’ll be dependent on other income streams, not just one.
/r/MGTOW224/12/20 03:14 AM
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Sleep well, eat well, and exercise as a starting point. I ran with that shit for awhile, had zero seduction concerns
/r/seduction22/12/20 04:10 AM
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I don’t really care I care about unprotected sex with multiple past partners
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 02:51 AM
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I love making out with random hot girls. Never gets old. And yes I get zero attention from girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 08:30 PM
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I wasn’t messed up by porn, but strippers, escorts, Reddit, and only fans, has totally shifted me irreversibly away from dating. Basically the same Effect as porn does on other guys There is literally no benefit for me as a guy to try and find a relationship. It would be temporary, and come crashing down at my expense, assuming that I could even find one, which in itself is a Herculean task. It’s sad but what I do is so much better than this dispute OLD any cold approaching that is usually a los…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 06:47 PM
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Sorry. Why are you asexual? Are you the female version of jughead?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 03:49 AM
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I have banged a very hot girl high on genetics and it feels very very good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 03:48 AM
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Some women WANT to escort or do only fans. Consensually. Who went and made you the sex police?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 03:46 AM
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It’s mutual if you aren’t a complete doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 12:15 AM
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Thanks man needed to read this. I felt lonely AF today.
/r/MGTOW215/12/20 06:08 AM
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I don’t mean to fault you in anyway, it’s just human nature. The way I see it is, you did have a good experience with the guy, it’s sad it ended, but I’m sure there’s good things you remember and carry in your heart to this day. And even if the bad things are only what you remember, even that tells you what you don’t want in a relationship, which is useful going forward. Overall, I think it’s great when you go out with someone and make a real connection. None of that would’ve happened if you jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 02:55 AM
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Again it’s because you are a lot more critical online than you are in person. Of photos, of the profile, of his first message, or all of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 01:35 AM
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It’s because you are More critical online
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 10:33 PM
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I’ve gotten shamed for asking a girl out ONCE! And being totally fine with getting a no. It was the act of asking her out that pissed her off.
/r/MensRights11/12/20 03:57 PM
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OLD very very rarely do women reply at all. That’s why it’s not real. You don’t even get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:53 PM
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Male space is oppressive and proof of patriarchy. Examples - guys night out at a bar, fantasy football league, going to lift weights, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 08:28 PM
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How insightful!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:22 PM
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I always encourage women to do this to really see things from a guy’s perspective. That’s when shit gets real.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:31 PM
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No MANY want to date and not just fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:27 PM
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and how often does that happen? Ever heard girls swear up and down they won’t do that? I have countless times
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:53 PM
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Spot on observation
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 08:53 PM
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Going to give it another shot
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:48 PM
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Some but not all. The good news is ones who I have seen that require all of that? You aren’t missing out on anything cuz they scrutinize those guys closely too. They do not get some loving relationship that you can only dream about 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 09:54 PM
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Do the most at work, gym, diet, physique , fashion, teeth, skin, water, sleep, socializing, sense of humor, business, hobbies, your job, managing business, family, and friend relationships, and say the least about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 02:49 PM
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Lol I have a friend like this. She is cute, I mean just that, and not above that, but her standards for a guy are through the roof. Reminds me of Tomi Lahren.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 02:45 PM
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I totally disagree. Being good with women consistently does not just signal you get sex - it’s a very honest signal of social currency. Guys with very high social currency don’t feel slighted as deeply as some newbie, cuz there is plenty around the corner. Not an absolute rule though, and the truth is stranger than fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:04 AM
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Best comment ever
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:42 PM
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It’s weird but I have been friends with guys who never had any issues dating at all. zero red pill. As much as I envied them, I did notice they were beyond excitement. I went crazy when I got a date, they could care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:41 PM
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I can give a few. Women earn just as much as men do now. BUT they still initiate the vast majority of divorces. And statistically, insist on dating someone at a same or higher income level. This has coincided with the explosion of OLD, Tinder, bumble, prostitution, etc, where women do not even need to leave their house to line up dates. Trust me I have -ok- looking female friends, and they are never, ever struggling meet new guys. Do you know that the vast majority of women in online dating aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:02 PM
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I think this is the perception guys get who really don’t go on dates. It feels that way. Go online, make one wrong move, your history, before getting a reply. Go up to girls in a bar or cold approach, same exact feeling. Watch girls around you not only get dates, but complain about how exhausted they are. And by these statements, I don’t mean that women don’t have problems or difficulty. But if we are talking dating, it’s just not as hard if you are a women, to go on dates. It’s a fact. And Once…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 09:26 PM
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You are right though, when two people open up to each other, there is real potential there. But understand it doesn’t happen to a lot of us, no matter how along we are in dating someone. That’s why we prefer not be open with emotion. I would say men opening up and being emotional is in practice, very discouraged. So while for you and your husband, it seemed like you fell into each other’s arms so long ago it’s an afterthought, maybe you are far along now and onto other phases of your relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 05:55 PM
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It’s cool thanks a lot for saying that. I truly hope that didn’t come off as woe is me, I’m just really conditioned not to be emotional with new girls or new people I meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 05:39 PM
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I’m not denying What happened with you personally but that’s not the vast majority of most of our experiences. If that were the case, I put that in all that in my OLD profile, send messages out that way, I would be at the top of a woman’s dance card on Friday night. Do you ever see an online dating profile where a girl says I just want a guy who is totally emotional and open and doesn’t act sexy all the time!In the alternative, suppose I just act like your husband in public when I meet women. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 05:31 PM
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But you are there already!! The stuff you say about your husband, that’s not going to get ME any dates with women I like. Single-dom as a man is unlike anything you will ever realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 05:19 PM
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Great problem to have
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:38 PM
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I’m just saying if I was looking to line up dates with attractive people very quickly and I was a girl that’s how I would do it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:38 PM
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Are you a guy or a girl? If you are girl I’d send out 500 messages to 500 Guys I deem to be good looking, where there is mutual physical attraction. I guarantee your calendar would be full. Not true the other way around. And I don’t do OLD I gave that up years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 06:37 AM
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I’m okie. I just don’t like how flaky girls are. I love making and keeping plans, sex or no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 05:02 AM
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Not For me. I would love the attention from hot girls. And I will try hard to find a girlfriend through OLD. Almost every guy in my family is seriously dating a hot girl off OLD. Where the girl is totally into them after years. That’s what I would try to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 03:21 PM
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I would go on tons of dates. Tons. I’d be fine if they didn’t all end in sex. It would be fun as fuck!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:06 AM
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I’m the guy version of you. I jerk off to really really hot girl photos and I love it, in my mind that’s better than sex with someone I don’t find attractive. But trying to stop that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 07:33 AM
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I would say it’s not necessarily looks, it’s attitude. Every older woman I’ve ever dated is rude AF. I like really girly girls who are into romance, get excited over little things. Older women I’ve dated -expected- everything. One of my friends was with an older woman at a wedding who said in front of everyone ‘he had me meet him at his office, I think he wanted to impress me with the view’ in this condescending way. I don’t speak for all guys but I want nothing to do with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 07:32 AM
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Yes I’ll admit if I meet a fat girl whose got an attitude, I’m really assuming she kicks ass with making, saving, and investing money from her job and gives phenomenal head because I think she may a hard time finding a partner otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 06:14 AM
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I wouldn’t say one way or another. I am pretty shallow, I was all about fucking petite girls my entire life, but I’ve met a big girl or two, one I worked with, and I developed a mild crush on her after spending time With her. She was married so I never acted on it, but it kind of surprised me in a way, like why is this happening?!? But she has amazing skin, was extremely well spoken, and I found that sexy I guess. I would say I’m the most shallow guy that’s ever existed on the planet, I’ve never…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 06:11 AM
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Good advice
/r/seduction06/11/20 12:58 AM
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I went online as a buddy, total ‘Chad’. Messaging the exact same girls that turned me down when I sent nice messages. I sent blatantly sexual messages. How do you think the girls responded? Concerns about safety? That I didn’t comment on their profile? Hopefully I don’t have to spell it out for you 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 08:36 PM
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Really not a fan of this term, more rationalization to shit on genuinely nice guys
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 08:20 PM
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Just replied to your DM
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:48 PM
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No offense taken. At my BEST I have made the attractive cut off, if you read my other post the single time a girl that was really cute, gave me a shot, cleared her schedule a few times on Friday night for me. she eventually faded away after a few weeks (we didn’t fuck but I totally could have, made out sober in public a few times, had her in bed twice, I just wanted to take it slow), and I did notice a direct correlation with how kind I was. I imagine she viewed it the exact same way you do. Doo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 05:10 PM
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Your response proves my point. A knee jerk reaction to paint these types of non-sexual gestures the way you are saying. Or just hyper-scrutinize them in a way I think means the guy isn’t that good looking, and/or isn’t asshole-ish enough. It’s a rationalization more than fact. Look at my other example - messaging women and commenting on their profile. That’s not at all doormatting, it’s just being normal polite. You know what I did as an experiment? I used my super good looking guy friends pic, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 04:53 PM
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But see you make a leap - where in my post does it say anything of those things you are saying? I’m saying even at initial impression women are repelled by kindness
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:24 PM
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You know what’s interesting? Women don’t put nice guys, who take an interest in getting to know them as a person, at the top of their social calendar. Like EVER. If they did, you would see a direct correlation, IE message a girl about her profile, non sexual, approach a girl in a bar, compliment her shoes and offer to buy her dinner, provided you aren’t totally ugly, would have you swimming in dates. But that’s not what happens in reality does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 05:52 AM
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Yeah I’m looking into it. Big law I saw as very prestigious but those hours are disgusting and the lifestyle is too. 70 hour work weeks mean you aren’t rich, you are time poor. The best legal jobs are in-house, or private practice with low billables, low Inventory (file count), and SpeakWrite dictation. And a way to dictate your billing on your phone, those things go a very long way in making life manageable. The other POS invention is emails. It’s super abused and I don’t think humans are meant…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 04:48 AM
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I just want a 9-5, that’s all I care about. Cannot STAND salary culture that actually thinks 40 hour work weeks are for pussies, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 04:35 AM
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They bill like animals and encourage 17 hour work days
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 04:08 AM
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Sex is a mutually consensual thing. I don’t look down on girls who fuck guys. At all. I was so ingrained by this mentality of girls ‘losing’ something that I apologized to a girl after sex and she said I wanted it too that’s why we did it so stop apologizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 01:06 AM
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I’m not telling you the verbatim exchange but it was not one sided, and not me firing off one way Q’s after another. And I have had girls pull the same crap with a ‘connection’. And it’s another reason guys want to meet up right away- girls being hypercritical over messages presented in written form, where they wouldn’t be so critical where the same thing was said in person. And I’m not -selling- myself over writing to -earn- a meet up. You honestly sound like one of those people who would criti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 12:14 AM
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She said I’d feel a lot more comfortable if we chatted first online for safety reasons. I said sure. We exchanged about 3-4 messages total about her job and how her week was going. She vanished after that. And by the way I’ve heard girls say the safety thing a million times. What I learned was when that’s thrown out, we are never going to meet. There is nothing I can say that will alleviate her concerns, at all. It’s a futile enterprise. Like there is no real ‘assessment’ as you put it, it’s jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 10:20 PM
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what do you think actually happened when a girl suggested we do that and I agreed? Promise if I do that we can continue chatting and she won’t forget about me in her ocean of messages? Nawww. Vanished mid-conversation. I didn’t ask for sex, no dick pics, didn’t push for a meet up, it was very normal convo. That’s what happens 99 percent of the time. Getting to know you is what you do in person. I’ve always been of the school of thought the first few meet ups in a safe public place in daytime wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 10:05 PM
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One thing I disagree with is the initial ‘don’t approach me look’ shouldn’t deter you from one attempt to flirt/initiate a fun conversation and see where it goes. If it stays cold then yes stop by all means. I totally thought a girl wasn’t into me based on her expression and we were making out the next night.
/r/seduction26/10/20 07:35 AM
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I don’t think there is anything wrong with a girl dismissing a guy outright. Technically, in a free society, anyone can talk to anyone how they want. And unfortunately, if I go up to someone else, they can respond however they want. I can’t go up to someone I’ve never met, but then also dictate how they’re going to respond. Or expect how they are going to respond. I can make myself as presentable as possible, read the situation, try to be funny, and make it a good attempt - but bottom line, they…
/r/seduction26/10/20 07:19 AM
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If girls wanted guys who want to get to know them For them, IE send a few messages about their profile, do chivalrous fancy first date dinners with zero expectation of a kiss, ie asexual guy friends that pay for everything and only exist to listen, then those are the guys who would be at the top of a girl’s dance Card on a Friday night. By and large, they are not.
/r/seduction26/10/20 07:16 AM
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I think you did just fine and I don’t agree with this other poster
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 06:59 AM
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Yeah and I’m not saying girls have to say yes to ugly guys or anything. But to not understand that dynamic and how that cuts differently for men and women is ridiculous. Total lack of empathy actually.
/r/seduction26/10/20 06:57 AM
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This is the one instance I think doxxing, and blasting these guys in the internet. Specifically when a guy chastises a girl for politely rejecting him, and in response, sends dick pics and threatening messages. The egregious examples where there was never any real conversation, no agreement to a date, those instances the guy should be exposed. That’s the one thing I think I could serve as a real deterrent to guys doing in the first place. I mean shit I’m a guy and I barely, barely date, I got my…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 06:53 AM
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No I 💯percent agree with you here, that shit is unacceptable. I have always thought guys who send those types of messages OLD, social media, or text, need to be outed. Their name, everything. And I’m talking egregious one-sided examples, where the guy just starts doing that the second the girl communicates her disinterest. Guys would think twice if they knew their profile pic and name was going to Circulate through twitter when they decide to tell a girl off for some arbitrary reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 06:50 AM
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FWIW I am a guy and I HATE, HATE guys that do cat calling, dick pics, or ask a girl out after she says no, let alone send threatening or harassing messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 06:45 AM
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Ok I’ll bite. Caring - not being indignant about guys wanting to meet up upon the very first message exchange from OLD - if we don’t move fast, another guy will. The longer you chat online and try to get to know a girl, the greater chances she will forget about you in an ocean of messages. Recognizing that reality, and that the vast majority of people meet up after a quick-exchange would be fantastic. -Don’t vanish in the middle a good conversation. mid-text, mid-OLD exchange, in advance of date…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 06:37 AM
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This is why I don’t understand women not understanding why guys want to meet up right away and do not want to chat too long online. If we don’t some other guy gets it them first.
/r/seduction26/10/20 06:22 AM
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I agree no judgment I just totally don’t care!! Hot and happy, and into you are so, so, so hard to find IMO so that’s why I value them so much
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:42 PM
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I agree with you this is totally true. And bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 08:45 PM
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If I married a girl who was hot AND happy most Of the time I would not care at all about how many guys she fucked before me. It’s irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:52 AM
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I like this I’m so bad at hot and cold I know What you are saying I just can’t do it
/r/seduction20/10/20 06:01 AM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:11 PM
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You sound like an amazing, supportive wife. Lol I agree get out of this thread! We are all weirdos here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 09:30 AM
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I do not at all care about how many partners a woman has had. It iRRiTATES the fuck out of me that it gets brought up so much. Past is the fucking past.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:53 AM
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I am not necessarily disagreeing, but I’m saying it’s was a very atypical form of prostitution. You may not have a frame of reference unless you’ve been with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 06:45 AM
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No I did I’m not denying that at all. I’m just saying it was atypical arrangement. Notice up there I said ‘it didn’t count because I paid her’. And apparently you don’t read threads very well before you comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 06:30 AM
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Prostitutes charge by the hour. I never paid this girl by the hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:12 PM
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No it was sort of weird I first met her at a showgirl club and paid her to bang. She offered, not me. Then after a year of exchanging emails, knowing her real name, she agreed to come to my house instead, typically 5-6 hours, and we would fuck exactly how I wanted, twice. I won’t say the amount, but it was not at all by the hour, it was based on how much I gave her at the club, we just tried to simulate what we did there, ie music, fucking, and talking. She wasn’t at all my gf. She also wasn’t t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 07:25 PM
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Because I paid her. Not by the hour, and wow was it cheap for such a hot, nice, sexually submissive girl (my friends who knew said I technically spent less than guys do on dating), but it wasn’t free. And she ended up with someone else anyway, she didn’t love me or anything like that. Was a highly sexually charged situation that came to an end.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 02:53 PM
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For me it’s true. No girl has ever wanted to be around me longer than 3 dates for 15 years now. I had a pseudo relationship for 5 years with an ex stripper which was the peak of my life, but that doesn’t count. and there are other reasons. Suppose I look my best, get in the best shape, get the best job, I’m still almost 40, and there is still fierce competition that never dwindles on her phone. That level of choice can be arbitrary, it can be cruel, it kicks you in the teeth, over and over. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:08 AM
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Not making out in of itself. Initiating it with an hot girl you just met like 15 minutes ago and both of you are is a challenge and commendable IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 07:54 PM
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I grabbed their ass
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 06:22 AM
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Ok sure buddy I’ve only done it 7-8 times in my life and it was always with really cute girls I just met and it’s amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 04:17 AM
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It takes mad skill to make out with a girl totally sober. I haven’t done it to the point where I’d call it game but man it is amazing when it goes down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 01:56 AM
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My first time ever was totally sober and consensual. So glad that’s how it went down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 01:55 AM
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Yea bad idea. What if everyone replies and then they have to go on FIVE dates a week!? What a Greek tragedy!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 05:33 AM
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1 good relationship in my early 20s. 2 years. The only relationship I ever had. 38. I don’t know I think every relationship is good and bad, the really good is where you know without a doubt you are a team and it’s you and her against the world. That’s when things start to feel good. Consistency: when you need to go out with your friends, or break up just because you want to play the field and have fun, instead of staying at home with your gf, it dooms the relationship. In fact, every friend I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 11:44 PM
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It’s the primary and most prevalent example of how women meet men today. And the most effective. Look around at the beach, bars, clubs. How many women, 20s and 30s, are on their cellphones on dating apps? You can’t overlook or dismiss it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 05:13 PM
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Go online, tinder, bumble, ok Cupid, looks are absolutely all that matter
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 09:46 PM
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I’ve always been extremely vocal about the idea that only women should msg guys they like online since the response and meetup rate is way higher
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 02:06 PM
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I honestly think criticizing women for their sexual history is really sad and fucked up. I have lady friends who told me about their count. I honestly didn’t care, I didn’t think more or less of them. It was just whatever. If they told me they go around fucking without a condom, don’t get tested etc that’s splendid I’m not cool with, iE safety/risk issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 12:46 AM
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Men need to be more open with their feelings and emotions is the biggest, biggest BS I have ever heard espoused in my entire life. Do that and watch a woman you date lose all respect for you. Or a woman instantly put you in the friend zone. It DOESN’T work! Don’t do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 05:55 AM
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I got tired of getting dumped on dates for a better prospect and realized that’s all that was ever going to happen, not fierce and permanent love for one another
/r/MGTOW213/09/20 08:44 PM
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The other half of your friends
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:37 AM
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I don’t buy all the MGTOW stuff. Or at least take it with a grain of salt. Young Christian women in their 20s who get married are very happy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 11:35 PM
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I don’t care because no girl I banged in recent memory wanted to marry me. Us getting married was out of the question. How many married friends do you have? None I know want to get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 11:31 PM
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I disagree I don’t care about that. I wanted to marry a girl who had lots of partners. She was extremely sweet, easy to talk to, and had a nice body. The first two elements are something I pay very close attention to. I have friends who are legit millionaires, are brilliant, and have bitchy wives. I am not a fan of non easy going people so that’s what shaped my preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 11:21 PM
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Why the cringe? Hot girls that like to have sex, and aren’t monogamous, lead VERY different lives. Or ones that go through a series of hook ups in their 20s. Most told me they stop counting how many hook ups after 39.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 11:11 PM
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The ONLY time I feel envious is when I see a girl who is REALLY into her guy and isn’t self-conscious about showing it due to all the bullshit societal programming that encourages negative interactions between women and men. But most of my attractive lady friends do not act that way in relationships so I really don’t care that they don’t see me that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:57 PM
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It makes me actually happy I don’t date these girls
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:29 PM
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Total myth mainly based around failure of rejection. I never care if a girl comes up to me, like IE be offended. Girls can be rude AF when you approach, EVEN IF YOU ARE totally polite about it and turn around leave the moment you are rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:06 PM
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I mean I don’t care I wasn’t hurt, it’s totally fine, it is just not a narrative I have experienced. One girl friend zoned me and years later we met up and made out in public like at 3 am one night in a coffee shop. And she asked me lots of Qs about marriage and expectations. But that is really it. I am one of the few guys that actually am ok (not going out of my way) with staying friends after being rejected and letting go of all romantic notions entirely, I don’t mind just chatting, and none o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 07:42 PM
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Most guys dont know they are dating a hooker. I banged one for years. She is married with kids now I DOUBT her guy knew she was getting fucked by me for $$ while they got all lovey dovey on social media. Or after they got married. Anytime you see a hot girl with a handsome guy she might do this on the side and he doesn’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 04:12 PM
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Is this really a thing? I’ve NEVER, ok once, had a girl friend zone me then make out with me later, and she was looking to get married. But other than that girls who friend zoned me did not actually like me anymore after I became successful. I feel like this is a fake narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:15 AM
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Nudes and strip clubs totally conditioned me to think only skinny girls with big boobs are hot. In my early 20s I didn’t care but I’m really particular about that now. Trying to get away from that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 01:57 AM
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Thanks man I’m sorry that happened to you. I kicked it with two hot girls yesterday, one friend zoned me, but we did everything Chill. Had some wine, chatted, went to a restaurant, and split the bill. I got my fuck on earlier in the weekend with a top notch personal trainer if you know what I mean. I don’t mind girls as friends but I’m totally fine not dating them, it wouldn’t be just us being nice to each other and fucking each other. The girls I meet just complain about the guys they date and …
/r/MGTOW08/09/20 12:18 AM
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I guarantee someone in that 100 is. Or the next 100. Put I am only interested in a committed relationship in your profile. How do committed relationships start? From a date. I also guarantee you can restrict every guy to meeting up in a safe public place and set the the terms of how Far the interaction will go. Don’t like what the guy says? Ghost him and say yes to another guy. AND also message Guys whose profile and pics you like, you will get whopping 50 percent response rate. Will every singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 04:15 PM
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You just pick one out of them online. Go straight to the best looking pics and say yes to a date. Keep doing it until you find the one. You are telling me That isn’t any type of advantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 08:09 AM
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It’s a known fact that guys do more approaching than women, and asking out, and sending the first message and setting up the first date online. You are seriously disputing that? You miss the point entirely - 100 men, always changing in your Phone gives you 100 opportunities, only 1 has to click. Most guys try 100 times just meet up with a girl just ONCE who makes plans and follows through. Thats nearly zero opportunity on our end. Don’t believe me? Go online as a guy friend. Change his profile a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 08:04 AM
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You have a failure to see things from our perspective. Go online as one of your guy friends, that looks just how you claim. Send out 100 personalized messages. Compare the response to your inbox without having to do anything at all. That’s the difference between how we see dating and how you see it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 07:21 AM
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A hot girl with an online dating account is more than likely a serial monogamist, dances in and out of serious relationships fast. There are so many options for a girl in that position. And she is claiming some average looking guy will actually overcome that level of choice. If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 07:17 AM
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But not anywhere near the level as the other way around. Men do the vast bulk of the approaching, the asking, the scheduling, and they get the most ghosting as a result. 100 guys in your phone at all times plus who knows how many more, always avails am to meet you up for a date gives you more than a glimpse of confidence you can do better doesn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 06:46 AM
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I’ve seen couples who only socialize with other couples and families. It’s just a thing that happens. As a single person, it doesn’t matter how understanding you are, how flexible you are, they will find a way to make time for others but not for you. I’ve tried to make plans With a friend a million times who has a family. Got a no because they were really busy with the kids, then they came by my city and didn’t reach out to me once. It finally came out one day in an argument, I saw it as they to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 06:28 AM
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Women get to go on so many dates it’s like shopping. Men get so few girls they like saying yes back when they get that one date it’s like scoring an interview. That cancels two hours prior. It’s really shitty tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 06:50 AM
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This is the thing I’ve never understood where men get zero, zero empathy or sympathy from women. You go on a date with a girl, or you get a number. Great interaction! Get ghosted. Why? You were just one of many on her phone. It doesn’t matter how well you present, how you tried your best - because there is always someone better on the phone. I could picture being insecure in a relationship because of powerful dynamic that never goes away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 06:47 AM
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Yes I just think of people whose weddings I’ve gone to, they seriously date someone at 25 for 3 years, then propose, and I see tears in their eyes at their wedding. It’s like the perfect trajectory for love, because now they have roots and a history to fall back on, and young enough to go on a journey together and experience new things. I’m like 39, zero history with any girl, zero roots. Tried many times but failed. Sorry that post from that guy about his fiancé brought out a moment of weakness…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 03:51 PM
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Ugh I get so sad when I think about this. Without a history with someone else who can one love or be loved 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 05:56 AM
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A taken younger woman has an affair of sorts with me for 5 years. We were 10 years apart. We had fantastic conversations. Sometimes we would chat for 2 hours then fuck. We really clicked. Just talked about happy things. She was accepting, friendly, happy, and happened to be smoking hot. A young woman with an old soul I guess. I’ve met older, attractive woman too, but a bubbly GND type is typically married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:22 PM
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I assure you if I was him I’d be cleaning the fuck up on tinder and bumble. All the girls would have zero issue meeting up, and I’d just line up coffee or beach sunset dates (low budget, low pressure, clean food is my motto).
/r/MGTOW24/08/20 06:37 AM
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Like a hot girl on tinder isn’t exactly what she is describing
/r/MGTOW24/08/20 05:48 AM
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Can a sex robot ride you (woman on top) or do it standing doggystyle?
/r/MGTOW24/08/20 05:44 AM
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I wouldn’t give a girl more than $400-$800 a month max!!!!
/r/MGTOW24/08/20 05:36 AM
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What’s crazy is he is a top 1%-er looks, reasonable movie career, etc. a lot of younger girls would date this guy
/r/MGTOW24/08/20 05:18 AM
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Not true. I lived alone and did it successfully for 6 years. On rare occasion I did a day or overnight. It’s is fine as long as she is fully screened and fully screened you. I never liked going to them because it’s much higher risk. Even when I went to them I got my own place and they came to me.
/r/MGTOW24/08/20 05:12 AM
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This sounds awesome! I’ll make sure to ghost my wife when she tells me what to get from the grocery store, don’t want to seem too eager now!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 11:56 PM
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Ummm I like affection
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:58 PM
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This is true. It can be very hard as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 04:07 PM
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Interesting!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 01:42 PM
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This is the difference between people who find true love and people who don’t. The former KNOWS that will happen and accepts it. It actually makes the love grow deeper and stronger. The latter just keeps dating keeps finding fault with potential suitors, and then wonders why they haven’t found the one. Or becomes ok with it and realizes they aren’t meant to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 09:33 PM
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Not me 💕
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:41 AM
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Girl says OLD ‘not looking for a hook up so don’t bother if that’s what you are looking for’. Ignores, deletes, vanished mid way through an exchange with guys messaging her about her profile, trying to get to know her, patient to wait to meet up. She never meets any of them up. They want to do it old school. In between that time she gets messaged by an attractive guy who specifically wants To hook up, she hooks up, and he never calls her back.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 03:19 PM
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This is exactly what happened to me in dating. Girls I TOTALLY could have fucked (physical attraction was there) got all weirded out when I told them I liked them and wanted a relationship. Do you think girls RUN to a first date when a guy message them online, commenting on their profile, and not mentioning sex? Please. “He messaged me, commented on my profile, didn’t mention sex or my looks, wants to meet for coffee on Friday night in a very public place. I am SO excited I am going to clear my …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 05:50 PM
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Romantic men/chivalrous men who do everything they are supposed to do get nowhere. That’s why we have hook up culture. It reminds me of girls in college complaining about frat and sorority parties encouraging hook up culture. It’d like the choice not to go didn’t register in their Brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 05:46 PM
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You might not like to hear this, but it’s normalized because you allowed it. No one made you hook up with anyone. You can set rules with any guy who wants to date you how Long you need to date before you hook up. That’s entirely your choice. The other issue is, maybe not you, by romantic/chivalrous guys/guys who will wait forever to get laid, aren’t at the top of most girls rosters either. Waiting for sex isn’t a trait that women value to the point those are the ONLY guys that will get a date wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 05:38 PM
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This has been a great exchange! Haha we should get a beer sometime
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:55 PM
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About the same for me. I quantify the body, the face is less quantifiable. I always wanted skinny girls with big boobs (not fake). White, Latina, or asian. Love boobs.Sometimes I got picky and they had a pretty face too. But I would like to hook up with a girl with small boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:35 PM
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That was what tripped me out about this guy. He had that look you wanted to have, the swag, the hot wife, but he would fuck ANYONE. He didn’t target hot girls. He did tell me some knew their worth so he’d have to take them out on a date or two before they put out, and since he had 3 kids and worked, had no time For that. What is your type physically when you talk about appearance? Or is it just any hot girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:05 PM
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You sound like a friend of mine. This guy could have been on the CW network. Everyone liked him in hs. A pornstar gave him her number. So did a hot milf. Him and his now wife were homecoming king and queen. The guy fucked easily more than anyone I know. He openly told me he smashes it with anyone, even though his wife is hot, he’ll smash a chubby girl because he wants what he can’t have. Told me zero girls gave him their number but didn’t pick up (that sounded amazing). I recall him saying he sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:00 PM
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You have no way of knowing- girls aren’t going to advertise it. Do you of course I don’t mean to lecture. But if you are intelligent enough to do what you are claiming, you are intelligent enough to know that. I’ll admit maybe cuz I’m burnt out on sex the social currency aspect of getting girls is what I loved. A girl has zero issue meeting up in a public place to chill with you is amazing. It’s like the ultimate high
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 04:54 AM
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I’m thinking if a girl fucks you raw and just met you then it’d unlikely that you are the first. That’s pretty much how ever person who got a serious STD got one
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 03:05 AM
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Think doctors would disagree with you there but to each his own
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:32 AM
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You aren’t worried about accidental kids/STDs? I did what you did like 15 years ago with a gf in the pill. Otherwise I never go raw. Escorts for me was just sleeping with girls I was extremely physically attracted to fuck exactly how I want when I want, do whatever I say Ie role playing etc. But I’m older now and less horny I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 09:45 PM
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Yeah I’m not sad about not having enough casual sex, i banged so many hot escorts I got burned out, but the non-physical aspects of dating I always loved, and hate I have so little experience there. The validation of girls WANTINg to put you at the top of their itinerary. Meeting up, getting ready, etc. I still get excited about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 09:30 PM
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If I could go back in time and switch places with you, I would!!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 08:08 PM
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Yeah that happened to me like 3 times in 10 years. Turned it into dates but couldn’t close 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:05 PM
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I’ve never done a one night stand but how good could it be if the girl never wants to see you again after you fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 08:34 AM
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I’ve never liked how a woman’s confusion or challenge to get her is shown on TV as this special hidden road, to her elusive heart. I know what it’s like for a girl to say yes! I like you! Yes! I love you! Yes! I want to be your girlfriend! Yes! I’ll marry you, with little or no vagueness. Anything but a yes is a no is a fantastic approach, so it’s never, ever asking a girl out twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 08:25 AM
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Imagine how different the world would be if actual gentlemen were at the top of women’s dating roster
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:30 AM
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That is amazing. Your skills I mean. I totally gave up on dating years ago right along the time online dating exploded in popularity. Sometimes I felt so left out of the dating game when I heard how much fun my lady friends had but at peace with it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:29 AM
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I learned from your post your can hit it off but it won’t always work out. Soooooooooo much truth in that statement. For guys especially. Got to get a yes, then hit it off, then go through that a few times, and hopefully one sticks around.
/r/seduction13/08/20 12:26 AM
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99 perfect of girls, even the ‘hot’ ones, take a wet wipe to their face and they are just like anyone else. Nothing special. No need to look up to them and down on yourself
/r/seduction13/08/20 12:19 AM
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It’s almost like you are signalling ‘HERE are all my flaws upfront!!! Do you like them too?!? Are you ok with them?!!’ I know that’s not what you mean but that’s the effect of saying it
/r/seduction13/08/20 12:14 AM
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I’m average looking I’m not some model. This may sound kind of messed up, take from it whatever you want, but if a girl or anyone for that matter made a wise crack about my looks, I can give it right back to them with a smile on my face. It’s cuz they aren’t better than me. Everyone’s shit stinks. Remember that.
/r/seduction13/08/20 12:12 AM
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You kind of did saying this 4 and 8 talk. Don’t say stuff like that or internalize it
/r/seduction13/08/20 12:06 AM
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I’m sure she does. But I am saying don’t look -up- to her, or idealize her, etc. it’s easy to do that.
/r/seduction13/08/20 12:03 AM
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Yeah don’t hold this girl up that high she is just a person. Show that you are comfortable in your own skin, there are extremely non physical traits that are attractive.
/r/seduction12/08/20 11:59 PM
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That’s awful I’m so so sorry that happened to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 03:16 PM
1

Interesting reply. I suck with girls but one thing I was great at was making them feel safe. That’s what I’ve been told anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:49 PM
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I’ve seen wives trip on their husbands for playing video games on their day off. Husbands who made like $500k a year and did very well at work. If I get to that point I’m sorry I have earned the right to do that and not be bothered about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 05:14 AM
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It’d just dumb if YOU like someone and they like you back then past really doesn’t matter. It is a new day and age. Girls tell me about their sex lives all the time as a friend, I have told them vice versa, it’s not a fucking big deal. How can you talk about these things openly if everyone is ready to pounce on it and judge like their holier than thou. Even then, if I was a virgin and I wanted a Virgin. I would make that known. There is no need to even meet someone who’s had other partners and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:16 PM
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None. I am a man and I am super appalled by this sexual history shaming BS to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:04 PM
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I’ll tell you, an escort 99% of the time shows up for sure. Granted it’s for one thing. But girls don’t show up for sure on dates. It’d 50/50. They make them then break them at a pretty high rate. And the only thing guaranteed is the guy is showing up and likely paying for the meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:02 AM
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See but what do you base that on? The one I was with for years was Very normal. She came from two parent family was educated, etc. she just happened to get down for $$. She wasn’t a man hater, didn’t have daddy issues, didn’t do drugs. She loved sex. She was sober all the time when we met and drove to my house in her own car. No one made her do anything. I met a few when I was younger just like this. They were super private people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 10:40 PM
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I’ve had girls come to my house stone cold sober and we got down. I saw the car they showed up in too. No signs of coercion. Some told me openly I was a guy they would do it with but other guys would pay them just to have dinner in public and nothing more. The goal was to work in early 20s and have all the money in investments by late 20s. In a few instances, I cancelled, and the girl got upset with me about it. Or they canceled on me then made definite plans that they kept the second time aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 10:33 PM
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This is based on observation. You can’t just focus on one thing. Everything should be thought of just like brushing your teeth. In terms of excelling. Job, career, physique, attire, good conversation. Not thinking any of these things give you a superior position in a conversation with anyone.
/r/seduction09/08/20 12:58 AM
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It’s jealousy plain and simple. And challenging a group she knows that won’t come out and defend themselves because of the stigma, not because they agree with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:32 PM
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That is a completely false statement. And many sex workers would completely disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 08:13 PM
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Now I’ve heard it all. Go tell that to sex workers. Many have always done it very consensually. I know many who had zero $$ issues, dated guys, they just liked escorting. And they had tons of rules before you could meet with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 08:02 PM
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Not exactly true. The ones I met (HOT) screened very very thoroughly before we ever met. And sometimes looks did play a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 07:30 PM
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Sex workers get a bad wrap. I’ve had AWESOMe experiences with them. One I totally wanted to marry, anyone would want her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 07:26 PM
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That’d just one thing. That, fashion, tone of voice; rolling with cool friends, fantastic conversation, then yes I’ve seen a slight uptick.
/r/seduction07/08/20 07:25 PM
1

Female animals don’t say ‘I would LOVE to meet you to consider mating with you!’ Then ghost. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:46 AM
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I don’t like judging girls for their sexual history, young or old. It’s fucked up. Female friends have told me they slept around and threw out ‘ I am not a slut’ right away like they were terrified I was going to look at them different. Honestly I did NOT care. How I feel about it is irrelevant anyway. If anything I felt glad they felt comfortable to share it with me. If you fuck around w/o a condom and have a bunch of kids from different Dads yeah I might raise an eyebrow. And that has to do mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:23 AM
1

Finding a younger woman with an old soul - therein lies the promise
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:19 AM
1

Getting attention and dick from two different places!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:17 AM
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These punkAss guys need to go to jail and need their face plastered all over the internet. Totally not ok in any way shape or form.
/r/seduction07/08/20 06:01 AM
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How the fuck are you supposed or have a relationship and/or family with someone who can’t keep a first date 😆 hypocrisy of women on full display
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 03:40 AM
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I’m not -upset- at women for the advantage, it’s just so obvious I get upset when it’s dismissed as an advantage or not acknowledged at all like it’s not an advantage, when it totally is. I started OLD back in 2009. Two dates in public, after about 7 years of messaging. Put up good photos, I’m average looking, above average if I’m religious about workout and diet. I put LOTS of effort in both the profile and then pics and the messages. I never once sent a crude message, or even talking about loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 03:38 AM
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Incorrect women want looks, Job, finances, act perfect socially, etc. OLD is the best example Women are just as much about looks if not more
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 01:42 AM
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Pre-nups in CA are barely enforceable. It’s almost like what’s the point just marry someone who never wants to divorce ever for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 10:21 PM
1

Yass
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 09:43 PM
1

I’m super obsessed with ultra hot girls. Or was at least for awhile. I just Fapped to their photos, not even porn
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 08:14 PM
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Cheating shows you have options. Blind faithfulness and loyalty do not equate with sexually attractive. Imagine how different dating, relationships, and marriage would be if that were in fact the case 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 07:55 PM
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If you are at least cute, then you don’t go on 5 dates a week by choice. I have plenty of woman friends who do. They also told me it made them extremely particular and selective, ie the sheer volume of attention they got. The biggest strawman I’ve seen women throw out is ‘yes we get more dates but we just don’t want to get pumped and dumped’. If that was true as a whole, then chivalrous gentlemen who take girls out to dinner wouldn’t not only be getting that first dates, but second dates, and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:01 PM
2

Let’s not confuse oversimplifying with you being dismissive. I tried to get good photos to present well, be super fit, I was making good money, I wasn’t sending crude hey baby want to fuck messages, in person or online. Two dates in 7 years. I was gracious to every girl I met. Even when I got the harshest rejections in person (you have no idea how disgusting women can be to polite cold approaches) and sometimes online. My lady friends, on the other hand were EXHAUSTED from all the dates they wen…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:58 PM
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Completely untrue and a strawman. Women don’t agree to sex by agreeing to a date. They can accept 5 dates and not fuck a single guy, and say up front I don’t do that. One guy will keep powering through, And if they don’t like them, they can exercise and line up 10 more over and over again. The guy is stupid enough to buy what you’re saying, about girls worried About getting used for sex, it’s going to turn them off by being a total gentleman. Because I’ve been that guy trying to get to know girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:25 AM
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Yeah but you overlook something. You get to go on dates. Men can’t even get dates. Forget about sex for one second. Men get rejected 99/100 times they ask for a date, while you go on 5 a week. You don’t have to fuck any, you can take the free meal and go home, and laugh about it with your girlfriends. And get practice conversating, a feel for what you like, some like, ie experience. And you can ghost on planned dates too. Until the right date comes along that you would consider a relationship wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:22 AM
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I’ve done every single self improvement thing someone can do and it never translated into a date. Girls’ didn’t have to do half the work I’d do and for twice as many dates. It was bullshit and I got sick of it. Women and you dismiss the awesome power of options because you have it. I’d love if everyone ignored all women for a few days. No matter what women said, did, think, or feel. That would show what it’s like to be a man. It’d so easy to say be positive with zero options don’t worry having o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:13 AM
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OLD is super duper easy for women. Respond And.Message the best looking guys. Insist on meeting up in public near their house. Just line up dates that way, super fast, and bam! Instant fairy tale relationship. Don’t make me laugh and say young women have it hard in online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:57 AM
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I’ve went out with younger women. It’s not the norm but they are absolutely out there, totally consensual. It’s the only dating match up where society gets super pissed off, even if the younger woman totally chose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:05 PM
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I’d be more interested in pick up if everyone wasn’t so disposable and things were more continuous. But it’s like (from the outside), you lower a girl’s guard down enough just to get it in that one time.
/r/seduction28/07/20 07:01 AM
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A girl rejected me twice (asking me out the first time, then pulling back after our date), then years later, was surprised when I invited her out as a friend to a party. That time passed, and I KNEW if I said yes it would always bother me than I’m not the first choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:25 PM
2

Something isn’t complicated! Let’s disparage it!!!
/r/seduction25/07/20 11:21 PM
1

Yes I do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 05:04 AM
1

they probably laugh at all the loser followers with their SO
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 04:47 AM
2

It’d on media versus reality. Looks maxing. It’s a super real thing. Not AS real as a lot of us guys have had no success with dating on OLD say, but some truth for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 09:56 PM
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I like your posts because you speak a very real truth. I showed looksmaxing articles to a girl and while shocked, she admitted it was very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:38 PM
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Suppose it’s not porn, but addicted to looking at nudes of women with a certain body type, just posing? Would that be porn addiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 06:03 PM
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I’ve fucked a girl totally sober who never drank alcohol. People have sober sex due to mutual physical attraction in a variety of settings.
/r/seduction19/07/20 06:14 AM
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Believe or not, guys get one night standed too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:20 PM
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I think coffee at any time is fine. Whose to say she can’t ask want to go back to my place/hers during said coffee date?
/r/seduction06/07/20 11:30 PM
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And maybe that’s a good thing. Being easy to go out with JUST to coffee and see what’s what is never a bad thing. People who bristle at that are too uptight or too particular about the form of the invite, like it needs certain protocol.
/r/seduction06/07/20 11:04 PM
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Yes yes then I hope no one asks you to go to coffee!!! You sound picky AF
/r/seduction06/07/20 11:02 PM
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A girl asking me for my number and coffee would be fantastic. EDIT - it’s fine for sex, casual Dating, or ANYTHING. Guys who actually care about how you are asked? Don’t worry about them, there are people who always find fault in the kindest and most flattering gestures.
/r/seduction06/07/20 05:20 PM
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Combine that with remembering everyone’s name the first time it’s said to you and then you are good
/r/seduction29/06/20 06:25 AM
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It would be awesome if girls could mark something that shows they have went out on dates
/r/seduction21/06/20 04:25 PM
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I don’t think you really get it. Of course it means be yourself. But if yourself cannot incorporate what other people say in your responses to them, which is actually a very basic thing, or view it as work, it tells me that you don’t listen very well. This isn’t even game, it’s human compassion. I don’t even know what you mean by ‘keep it in check’, again I never said be snarky be arrogant or anything remotely like that. That’s 100 percent in your replies and not mine.
/r/seduction05/06/20 09:01 PM
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Snarky? Try too hard? I don’t think you read my post right at all. Do that with ANYONE not just girls and it shows you are an active listener. Snarky means Saying biting things to people. Nowhere in my post did I say that. Nor did I say try too hard I said the opposite. Any good conversationalist can do what I have just said. And the 3 celebs examples I gave are the best at it. Watch a conversation with them. It’s really fun.
/r/seduction05/06/20 07:54 PM
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Can you incorporate what people say in your replies in a short and funny way without making it seem like you are trying? IE speed of thought is great. Think Chelsea Handler, Russell Brand, Craig Ferguson. If you can open not like a total creep then use what they say and do, at the very least, you’ll come off very cool.
/r/seduction05/06/20 03:38 PM
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When I took a year off to travel it was amazing the reactions I got. From a wide spectrum of people. Bosses, friend’s wives, friend’s casual friends, girls I met at clubs. So many people get rich with strings attached.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/20 05:39 AM
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I don’t know that I agree with this. My mom nags my dad, but I’d say it’s about 50/50 ie he gets on her nerves too. They would NEVER divorce nor even be separate even for a night. They definitely are in it together
/r/TheRedPill03/06/20 11:21 PM
1

I think it shouldn’t be so obvious
/r/seduction03/06/20 05:34 AM
1

Where beautiful women flock and it’s ok to talk to them. The EXACT place is something you’ll need to figure out.
/r/seduction03/06/20 05:17 AM
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Yeah that’s also a very weak mentality. I know 60 year olds who do it everyday. They are way past seduction.
/r/seduction31/05/20 06:12 PM
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LOVED this one cuz it’s exactly what I’m about. Consensual dominant/submissive arrangements. Man/woman. On/off. Binary. And yes I have been with girls who are more dominant and God Bless them more power to them but it’s not my thing.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/20 04:17 PM
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No need for an apology. It’s kind of Like me bragging I would beat a woman in a fight calling her ‘weak!’ While conveniently ignoring that I am a guy and have inherent advantage. That is exactly what it sounds like reading you say you would never date a guy who is easy.
/r/seduction19/05/20 04:08 AM
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Hella easy to say that when you got 100s of options in real life and online just by being available and cute
/r/seduction18/05/20 04:26 AM
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Face, teeth, excessive skin care, clean cut hair, and eating extremely slow AND clean for months will do wonders for your face
/r/seduction16/05/20 08:54 PM
2

She is not sweating you, I guarantee that!!
/r/seduction16/05/20 06:30 PM
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Not true. I notice a girl’s looks right away. But just as fast I notice how sweet she is/isn’t. How she acts to other people in the room. I’ve seen it all. Well credentialed girls, really conservative, and a bit cold. Hot girls who are stuck up, girls I didn’t find hot stuck up, etc. there are trends but they aren’t absolute. Maybe when I was young I attributed personality to looks. But ultimately, personality never goes away, when the looks do. Stupid guys put up with a hot girl acting incorrec…
/r/seduction14/05/20 01:20 AM
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This guy and Russell brand are exactly how I want to be in conversation, not just game. Quick, sharp-witted, funny.
/r/seduction09/05/20 03:32 PM
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‘You going introduce yourself or just stare?’ Followed by another quick smile, and by the ‘come over’ hand motion
/r/seduction07/05/20 11:26 PM
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You sound really gorgeous looks wise
/r/seduction02/05/20 07:45 AM
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This is exactly, exactly why I quit OLD. It’s arbitrary and unforgiving.
/r/seduction27/04/20 04:17 PM
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I like this post because I go up and down on self improvement. And people I admire, they really just like own it. No bragging, no announcing, they check off all the boxes and don’t really react to criticism or praise.
/r/seduction24/04/20 09:39 AM
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This is easily one of the best threads ever
/r/seduction21/04/20 03:12 PM
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The point of my reply is not advocating for hot/cold, it is more about how many times should a guy follow up with a girl and she either yes says then flakes/doesn’t respond before he gives up, iE because being overeager can scare a girl off too but we don’t know because every girl is different. I honestly don’t know the answer to it myself. My friend’s wife cancelled on him 3 times before they went on a date. In between one of Those times she posted going out on FB with her friends even though s…
/r/seduction20/04/20 06:29 PM
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I meant your 2nd and 3rd responses.
/r/seduction20/04/20 06:01 PM
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do you reciprocate/make your self available when a Man shows interest and tried to make plans with you?
/r/seduction20/04/20 08:38 AM
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Poor Sandra bullock in speed
/r/seduction20/04/20 02:41 AM
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Dating too much can stunt maturity? LOL I dated a girl once who told me she responded to every single invitation for a date in online dating. She went on 30 dates in like three months. She told me it was really difficult. Must have been so tough, what a Greek tragedy! I sent out hundreds of messages and got two dates in seven years. Who do you think feels a little more comfortable with dating?
/r/seduction10/04/20 06:39 AM
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Apps have been around for 10 years. The post was about the average woman. Maybe above average but that is subjective.
/r/seduction10/04/20 06:31 AM
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I think what you are saying is not inconsistent with my post at all. Nothing you are saying can overcome the awesome choice women have today in dating. It means if you aren’t in the top 10%, you are screwed. Lots of guys did the stuff you said and came up short. Notice my post never said average guy is frustrated to get laid, he is not even getting a date.
/r/seduction10/04/20 06:30 AM
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I’ve directly spoken to women who openly admitted to me there is always interest somewhere. The gym, the online, the bars. They get to be reactive in the dating process. So my post was based on that. It doesn’t surprise me that you are dismissive about it. Many women are very dismissive about it as well, because they live in a bubble. It’s extremely different being alone by choice and because you have to go through countless rejections not to be.
/r/seduction10/04/20 06:29 AM
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What anger? Lol there was zero anger in my post. I didn’t post anything mean or derogatory toward women. I went to bars a lot in my 30s. Of course anyone can make out with or a date a girl at least once if they do that. When I did I just remember being really confident and being in top shape of my life and dressing well. Guess what my female friend did? Ate out every single day, dated model guys all the time. Asked a guy out and got a date. Patted herself on the back for making The first move. I…
/r/seduction10/04/20 06:24 AM
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Average guy goes online, reasonably fit, good job, decent pics, send out tons of messages, all clean content, either making jokes, and/or commenting on the girl’s profile, get zero replies. Eventually gets three replies after sending out 100 messages. Two of those girls vanish mid conversation, and one agrees to a date, then vanishes before the date. He is judged very harshly by his photos, and doesn’t realize that posting a picture with a bunch of his lady friends is a red flag in a woman’s min…
/r/seduction26/03/20 03:41 PM
1

It’s not that it’s someone who liked you enough to love you, date you, spend time with you, and yes, fuck you too
/r/seduction10/03/20 09:17 AM
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The problem isn’t always guys being bitter about being rejected or friend-zoned (they do a lot which is stupid), it’s also girls having so many guy friends, and being friends with members of the opposite sex, purely because they crave attention. I’ve seen this firsthand, girls who intentionally want to be surrounded by guys they aren’t fucking, or they LOVE the attention and nothing else. I find that to be extremely fake and a horrible quality to have in a person. Some girls I’ve know have drive…
/r/seduction08/03/20 09:39 PM
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The girls who do Keep the interest become faithful wives and mothers
/r/seduction08/03/20 09:27 PM
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When girls replied and met face to face with me and made out with me, I felt like maybe they liked me. When they ghosted me then I felt like they didn’t. It’s pretty accurate.
/r/seduction07/03/20 05:10 AM
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If you look like you were factory built (tall, square jaw, strong hairline, lean and/or muscular) it will be cake to get a date, no question. Sex I don’t know about
/r/seduction23/02/20 03:35 AM
2

I disagree autism is extremely off putting to normal women in a romantic context. This is probably where both parties don’t realize the guy is autistic.
/r/seduction15/02/20 06:37 PM
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I don’t like it when anyone does that, guys too. Just don’t ask if you aren’t sure. It goes beyond dates it’s about accepting invites, making invites or mutual plans, And following through.
/r/seduction14/02/20 09:34 PM
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True story - the only, single relationship I’ve been in, the GIRL basically did exactly what you said. I’ve never ever got it work the other way around.
/r/seduction14/02/20 06:34 PM
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Yeah but a girl enthusiastically suggesting a date then bailing is really thoughtless and rude. Try to look at it from a guy’s perspective.
/r/seduction14/02/20 03:05 PM
1

Can I flirt with you a bit, or should I be talking to some ugly girl instead?
/r/seduction30/01/20 06:15 PM
2

You get attached quick - try something different - not -liking- a girl romantically or at all until you have fucked her at least 3 times. Not kissed, not cuddled, but fucked!!
/r/seduction26/01/20 07:48 AM
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Going out with a guy who is good with women is really really fucking beneficial, because you see how they act and can absorb that, it’s not 100 percent looks. One single time in my life I got a girl I was trying to hook him up with because I assumed that’s how it would go. No two people think alike, so don’t assume girls are always thinking what you are, let them show that before you assume. I think by going out with someone who has experience who can meet and interact with new girls with ease i…
/r/seduction20/01/20 01:00 AM
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My hot is my fantasy. It’s subjective but it’s what I classify as hot - skinny, big boobs, pretty face. And no it’s not validation or me telling myself anything, if a girl has certain features and we fuck that’s awesome and my dick responds to it very well and I explode with an orgasm. That’s why I do it. I think I’m a body more than face guy myself. If I could fuck anyone I would, but I can’t even get it up that way. I’ve had my fantasy many times over. Have you?
/r/seduction17/01/20 01:23 AM
1

Ever fucked a hot girl your whole life? It’s the greatest feeling in the world - probably right behind finding the One
/r/seduction16/01/20 10:39 PM
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I dunno I get rock hard instantly with young, in shape girls, and my orgasms are better. Always been that way.
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:42 PM
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Dood never sleep with girls you aren’t attracted to. Never!!
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:40 PM
1

If this helps at all - I don’t really care about the outcome, I care about getting a laugh; presenting myself in the best light possible, and NOT getting intimidated when I ask, and having a very brief, friendly response if I am rejected to show it didn’t bother me at all. I really wanted to impact girls by what I did as how I acted in the extreme short timeframe I had to make my pitch, regardless of if they went out with me or not. You’d be surprised how receptive the women were when I did thes…
/r/seduction10/01/20 06:49 PM
1

Openers, in my experience, should be really short, engaging, context specific, and done with a confident voice and a little smile (not doing so is a tell-tale sign of anxiety). They can be a question, or an observation, and they should be genuine, not too focused on the reply, whatever that reply may be. You are exactly right - a girl might like ‘thanks’ and that’s a helluva a lot more likely if you don’t know shit about her bracelet and have no context behind why you are complimenting it beside…
/r/seduction06/01/20 01:13 AM
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A hot girl gets way, way, way more requests for her time then you or I ever will. And that’s not just guys, it’s coworkers, bosses, family, friends, people who want to network, guys who approach in real life, and OLD is like a buffet. I’ve only seen a few girls admit it, but OLD can be amazing if you are a hot girl. I am absolutely not saying hot girls don’t have problems, they do, I just don’t think getting attention, dates, friends, or an active social life is one of them.
/r/seduction03/01/20 10:04 AM
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It’s a super waste of time if you are a balding guy that’s not at least a 7.
/r/seduction03/01/20 12:08 AM
1

I think girls 5’4 and under are the real 10s.
/r/seduction02/01/20 04:24 AM
1

Has anyone here seen BOTH? Because i feel like hot gets lumped with bratty, selfish, and while rare, I’ve seen both in a woman.
/r/seduction27/12/19 07:21 AM
3

Anything but an enthusiastic yes is a no. Agree/disagree?
/r/seduction14/12/19 01:27 AM
1

I think the problem is there aren’t lots of women that you would be interested in from OLD, ready to make themselves available in a safe public place (coffee etc) with lots of people around, to see if there is a connection, with no expectation. I think that should be the golden standard of meet ups, and they should not even be called dates, because neither side should show up with any real expectation besides coffee, talk, then leaving. The problem is the hypercritical (and yes, totally arbitrar…
/r/seduction13/12/19 08:01 PM
3

I found this so funny I screenshotted it
/r/seduction12/12/19 04:47 AM
3

You got to Knock it out of the park with the mom.
/r/seduction12/12/19 03:50 AM
1

-shrug- ok man whatever you say!
/r/seduction10/12/19 12:45 AM
1

It’s funny but I think everything that’s a disqualifier and a qualifier should be considered a disqualifier by you and done just because with zero expectation of how a woman will feel about it. Better way to be in life I suppose.
/r/seduction09/12/19 11:34 PM
1

Well I’m ugly and this was b4 we fucked so I’d say I’m right. Or go to Walmart and scan yourself for couples with a hot girl and not so hot guy. Not Saying it is the norm, but you would be surprised.
/r/seduction09/12/19 08:28 PM
0

Be sarcastic and exaggerate when you speak. The less serious the better.
/r/seduction08/12/19 12:39 AM
1

You’d have to be really masculine - and also not every girl thinks that way - many do, but many don’t. I actually asked a super hot girl I fucked if she instantly scans for the hottest guy at a bar and she said no. Based on her overall demeanor, i knew she was being truthful.
/r/seduction07/12/19 04:17 AM
1

I’m not saying he didn’t - he just didn’t delve into things, and why would you at work? Hope you take away the real point of this reply to your OP
/r/seduction04/12/19 04:53 PM
1

well two things - he did talk and have opinions, they were about sports, and just general things. He never verbalized negative opinions, feeling stressed out about work or our workload, he went out of his way to avoid saying anything negative or criticize anyone in general. On occasion he discussed his wife, his family, but also, we were busy at work, we weren't there to make friends, many of us took lunch at our desks, not with each other. I would say he was extremely humble, and friendly to ot…
/r/seduction04/12/19 04:14 AM
3

I’ll give you an example - I used to think my workouts were the shit. And I lived next to my job, walking distance, figured it gave me an edge workout wise, because I didn’t waste 2 hours everyday on a commute - and I am single, which gave me an edge at work, because I didn’t have kids or a wife to worry about. If I worked out 4 times in one week at some point I’d brag about it to my friends, mom, or girl. However, I met someone at work who was married, and commuted 1 hour each day. He never vol…
/r/seduction03/12/19 07:16 PM
1

Maybe you should think of things in the same vein you think of brushing your teeth or wiping your ass - they aren’t anything special, they are just expected.
/r/seduction03/12/19 05:23 AM
1

Well you might be attracted to me cuz friends tell me I am a really “masculine” guy on the 5/6/7 scale. Jk - but yeah I’ve definitely seen it too. Tiffani Amber Thiessen, arguably one of the cutest girls of the 90s, said she digs Mike Rowe. Exactly twice in my life I’ve gotten the pretty girl over the classically handsome taller guy, and I’m average/below average in looks, and a 3rd girl cheated on her serious, good looking bf with me for many years. Another guy I used to work with, all the girl…
/r/seduction19/11/19 10:54 AM
1

I wouldn’t say this is true 100 percent of the time, though it’s true in most places (clubs and online for sure). I asked a pretty damn hot girl when she went to bars did she scan the room for the hottest guy instantly and I genuinely believed her when she said no (I’m a 5). Some people think in very pure terms and don’t instantly think about looks, even if they are ‘classically’ good looking themselves.
/r/seduction19/11/19 03:56 AM
1

It’s ok no sense in getting mad about it. It takes a very socially gifted person, guy or girl, to constantly put themselves in someone else’s shoes, and approach the interaction that way. I don’t do it nearly as often as I should. And if you aren’t doing it all the time it won’t be natural, even if you come across some people who don’t appreciate or respond in kind.
/r/seduction19/11/19 02:58 AM
1

Keep it extremely brief, accurate observations, do it in the right place and see how she responds. Example Of the right place - waiting in line at a bar, or at the bar itself, or a house party, or a networking event, is the place where it is ok to say 1-2 things to a complete stranger. Think anywhere you have to be next to someone else for a few minutes, not just passing them By, provided that you aren’t a weirdo who goes on and on. What I’ve always done, and when it works, it fucking works like…
/r/seduction19/11/19 01:29 AM
2

Yeah just having the mentality of being the best at everything ‘just cuz’, not to brag, not to be noticed, but do it for myself, like brushing your teeth, is what I would have done differently. I’m 38 btw.
/r/seduction15/11/19 01:26 AM
1

I’m not one to learn from at all - my friends and family always did fantastic though. One cousin explicitly told me ‘bar is the easiest place to meet a woman’ that’s how easy it was for him. The one thing I would have done differently was when I was younger - I was really, really physique looks driven (for myself and thought I was the shit), and had zero, zero real game - awkward AF. Conversationally I was terrible. I’m much, much better now. If I could change anything, I would have focused on e…
/r/seduction14/11/19 05:22 PM
2

I stopped going out and cold approaching (too old now), but I never would have had random make outs or cool experiences had I not tried.
/r/seduction14/11/19 09:09 AM
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22 likes. You don’t have to read it.
/r/seduction14/11/19 09:08 AM
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I think we have reached a point in society where women should be the only ones doing approaching. Guys won’t be nearly as fickle or particular about how, why, when, or the context behind the approach. And that way there will be zero Unwanted approaches from guys. I don’t see why gender equality comes to a screeching halt at making the first move and paying for the first date.
/r/seduction14/11/19 08:11 AM
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Girls have zero idea as to what OLD or a bar is like for man trying to meet women. lol imagine if the roles were reversed and women had to go through constant rejection and flakes, for 1 possible yes or never date. Find it remarkable as to the lack of empathy or awareness with this dynamic.
/r/seduction14/11/19 06:57 AM
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Good for you. There is NOTHING wrong with that. Nor would there be if you disliked the approach or found it unwelcome, especially if someone persists after a clear or soft no. But no one knows of a girl will be receptive to an approach until one is made.
/r/seduction14/11/19 06:27 AM
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I’ve kissed girls, sober that I’ve just met 15 minute ago, more than 3 times in my life. Girls have left a bar with me, more than 3 times in my life and came back to my house. i am a self described total loser with women and I’ve done those things. I’ve had friends who have done it countless times. Sometimes girls don’t judge you by the very act of cold approaching itself (which is what the OP is sort of suggesting - which is fine that’s her deal), but what you say and what you do in those first…
/r/seduction14/11/19 06:24 AM
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And women don’t have it easier in online dating? Please. Edit: why the downvotes? It’s not true?
/r/seduction07/11/19 06:44 PM
2

Love this!!!
/r/seduction06/11/19 08:17 PM
1

I met up with a girl once who cancelled 3 times before we met up. When we were at my place, she was apologizing, surprised how chill I was about it, how some guys told her off over text. I replied ‘you’re worth the flaking. Care for a drink?’ Definitely made her laugh.
/r/seduction30/10/19 05:17 PM
5

See answers below. Remember too, you can’t script a conversation. I never forced my way into talking to a girl (wasn’t good looking enough for that). If I was next to a girl at bar, I’d throw out one line, gauge their reaction, and respond appropriately. Example - saw some girls at a bar sitting near a pool Me: you jumping in ? (I TRY to go for 3-4 word statements MAX at first) Girls - (smiling), no you jump in Me - I would, but I’m not wearing underwear Girls - laughed Me and my friend sat down…
/r/seduction20/10/19 05:57 PM
1

What are some of your struggles? What is the most important thing your parents taught you? What is your favorite memory? And then what happened? If you could travel anywhere where would you go? When did you know you first loved X (hobby) Observations are also really important. A decade ago, I was in a Vegas bar. A real cute girl sat down by herself (also key, girls alone at the bar are rare, always try to strike up a conversation there) - I first talked for to the bartender, and 2 people next to…
/r/seduction20/10/19 05:53 PM
1

Yeah nothing is fool proof, and it’s all good anyway.
/r/seduction19/10/19 01:53 AM
2

I’ve always held hands and been pretty touchy feely leading up to the kiss. I used to always stroke the girls hair too - if she didn’t stop me, in my mind that was my green light. Only one single time in my life this method failed me.
/r/seduction18/10/19 08:26 AM
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I have noticed - ANDDD this is subjective - it might not be right for you. I come off way better with new people when I don’t say as much, speak very soft spoken (my natural pitch is loud and pierces the air), don’t volunteer too much information about myself, and make reactive jokes (joke and ask questions only about the topic or what people are telling me about the themself). And people say always ask questions about others - I found myself asking too many as if I was interrogating them, so I …
/r/seduction16/10/19 06:40 PM
2

Hit or miss. Surprisingly yes I have met cute girls, hung out all night, made out or took them on a date the next day. It was by no means the norm.
/r/seduction10/10/19 10:47 PM
3

HELL NO
/r/seduction10/10/19 05:53 AM
1

I read and watched about this guy on YouTube. He had kind of a messed up home life, but he perceived everything in a very negative way. Every event, every interaction. He had zero ability to have fun for himself. I say this from having the perspective of being unlovable, unwanted, and unliked. People can and often are dicks/self-centered/inconsiderate/unappreciative, socially and in dating. But even then one should be positive even alone, to find some joy and laughter in the world.
/r/seduction30/09/19 08:50 AM
2

This isn’t really advice on how to be more attractive, but I was in your boat, and I just started saying shit back and then walking away. Not like to stay to bother them but if they were a jerk I had no issue giving it back. I just wanted to have the better comeback and see the shell shocked look on their face. DON’t confuse this with bitterness or lingering, that’s very easy to do.
/r/seduction18/09/19 08:02 PM
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I wasn’t!!!! The follow ups matched my sentiment, which I also said above, and the first two didn’t, and I was saying in general statements like the first two, by themself, can signal the perception that there is a lack of interest, that’s all!!!
/r/seduction27/08/19 03:57 AM
1

I wasn’t referring to those further comments and said so multiple times.
/r/seduction26/08/19 08:17 PM
1

And I’m just as surprised at your interpretation from her first two posts without edits and nothing else. But we can certainly agree to disagree at this point.
/r/seduction17/08/19 01:46 AM
1

My comments and interpretation was only based on her first reply, NOTHING that followed after that, including making the date.
/r/seduction15/08/19 11:51 PM
2

You can infer ‘my acceptance of your invite is contingent on whether you are patient enough to wait’ from ‘maybe’?
/r/seduction15/08/19 08:01 PM
1

And again I was speaking from the guys point of view, not our inside track. If all you heard after ‘awesome game’ was ‘if my schedule opens up in a few weeks, then maybe!’, isn’t there a chance you’d interpret that as not interested? The ‘patient enough to wait part’ was not explicitly said.
/r/seduction15/08/19 04:02 PM
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And I’ve said more than once I am not saying what she thinks or feels, I am just speaking on perception, based on her initial follow up statement (I’m busy for a few weeks, if my schedule opens up, maybe - ie not verbatim but the real trigger for this whole thread), and nothing else. That is all. I know they have set a date. That came in Edit #2. I wish them well!
/r/seduction15/08/19 08:08 AM
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Her initial response was she is really busy for the next few weeks, and if her schedule opens up, then maybe. By itself, disregarding the edits, coupled with the initial post, meeting up didn’t seem to have the same enthusiasm the OP carried as for the initial interaction. I’ve had lots and lots of extremely pleasant social interactions that never resulted in an ongoing friendship, relationship, fuckship, or business relationship. They just aren’t that big a deal - they are life. When a girl agr…
/r/seduction15/08/19 04:18 AM
1

No I don’t think it is. I’m saying a good interaction with anyone is fantastic and should not be understated, but for dating and seduction, a girl that you fancy meeting you up following the interaction is everything. It shows your interaction left a lasting impression, and now is going farther.
/r/seduction14/08/19 05:07 PM
1

I was talking to Princess Lavandar, not you.
/r/seduction14/08/19 04:03 PM
2

Love this comment because it’s sooooooooo true. If you had just said or done the right thing then would the girl of your dreams said yes and entered into a relationship with you? Not if she didn’t like you already on some level
/r/seduction14/08/19 04:46 AM
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I agree it’s the attention more than anything else. Meeting up is not that hard at all. There are girls who will swear up and down and defend their rationale like the OP, that it’s hard to meet up even if they actually liked the guys approach (which takes incredible effort and skill and risks humiliation), but it can be as simple as asking a guy to meet you for coffee near your job/house/university, or at least say ‘i definitely want to go out with you, and I’ll have a better idea of when in a c…
/r/seduction14/08/19 01:10 AM
2

Really bad example. I’m downvoting this one.
/r/seduction13/08/19 09:27 PM
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I think I’m looking for examples where the girl meets with the guy alone in public for a date. I don’t care if it ends in sex or any physical contact, but anything less than that is not game. It just isn’t.
/r/seduction13/08/19 09:26 PM
3

Have a good chaser handy with a bottle of ketel one, Tito’s, or Grey goose. Good chasers are all over and aren’t too pricey- any cold pressed cherry juice from Whole Foods, straight up cold pressed, non-pasteurized if you want to get fancy, simply cranberry, etc. also very important, have a bunch of frozen giant ice cubes in your freezer, have whiskey glasses on hand, preferably in the freezer for 20 minutes before the drinks are served. Also have a steel measuring shot glass, and offer a small …
/r/seduction03/08/19 05:53 AM
7

Act like she is hitting on you
/r/seduction30/07/19 02:57 PM
1

Humor is awesome for the sake of itself. Do it to make yourself laugh. Yesterday I was out at a friend’s birthday, with his wife and kids at a restaurant. There were women walking around in giant stilts, making animal balloons for the kids at each table. I said in a very serious way ‘I’m sure you get this from every single guy you talk to - is it lonely at the top?’ Everyone’s reaction was priceless. I could care less if it’s seduction or not. Go enjoy life!
/r/seduction22/07/19 07:35 AM
1

Yeah it’s ok to get rejected, even harshly, but you always should present yourself in the best light possible, outcome be damned.
/r/seduction20/07/19 12:42 AM
0

There are girls who just think that’s causing unnecessary drama too.
/r/seduction17/07/19 07:02 PM
1

Well the good thing is it’s a very soft way to find out. If she doesn’t commit you still play it cool, and quietly focus your attention elsewhere. You don’t have to announce anything. Plus what I’m saying isn’t gospel. I know one guy who got flaked on 3 times when he matched a girl on Tinder for the first date. He played it mad cool and tried again. After that they instantly became couple, dated for years, moved in together, and got married. They are inseparable now. Conventional advice would ha…
/r/seduction15/07/19 11:14 PM
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The biggest thing I’ve seen get guys wrong, and this is totally subjective, is once you ask and get a yes, follow up right away with ‘ok cool! What’s your schedule like?’ Then if she actually gives a day she is free, suggest a time, then if she agrees, THEN say cool I’ll text you the deets, and text her a place on the day in time in Question, near her work or her house. It doesn’t have to be fancy, if she likes you it won’t matter at all. If she hems and haws, then just say ‘cool! Just lmk when …
/r/seduction15/07/19 10:07 PM
4

Not just that, but that you MADE it happen. I wouldn’t have motioned the other girl to come join. Amazing.
/r/seduction14/07/19 12:02 AM
13

Holy shit you went out alone and ended the night with a 3-way
/r/seduction13/07/19 10:36 PM
2

It’s not as bad as you make it out to be. You’ve fucked Tinder lays, and fucked escorts, which I’m assuming are hot. So you have gotten some pussy, just maybe want better lays and better relationships. I wouldn’t say that’s horrible. You aren’t in a labor camp in North Korea. But yeah just do those 3 things for now, get lean and shredded as fuck. If you can actually get through 3 entire months doing what I say, then you can focus on other stuff- attire, social skills, putting yourself in more si…
/r/seduction10/07/19 01:50 AM
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The problem with too much socializing is that you aren’t doing anything to improve yourself physically, financially, emotionally, professionally, from an attire standpoint, being well read, etc. Do way more of that, for a long time, and you will become more confident of yourself in the process. People can sense when they talk to other people if they are trying to hard too hang out, too hard to get a date, as opposed to sharing a common interest through conversation. I know myself when I’m ‘tryin…
/r/seduction10/07/19 01:39 AM
2

Yeah, don’t compare yourself to others. Stop thinking about them entirely. Stop thinking about girls and sex. Focus on the 3 things I’m talking about, pick 1-2 hobbies to develop, that you PERSONALLY like, and run with that for a 3-ish months. Could be hiking, yoga, photography, meditation, whatever you like. I’m done now, but I truly hope this helps.
/r/seduction10/07/19 01:35 AM
1

Sometimes you need to have fun FOR yourself, not compare yourself to others. Hobbies that don’t involve anyone else else. There’s nothing wrong with you, think that way. Sometimes I make playlists all night or only post on social media when I take an awesome, awesome photo. I don’t do those things for anyone else. Do things for yourself, whether it’s fun or self improvement.
/r/seduction10/07/19 01:30 AM
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Because you have a horrible mindset. You need to change it. Change starts with you and from within. If you do these 3 things faithfully, without question or expectation, it becomes your thing, your thoughts will start to change too. It will show you have some self respect. But change is glacial. Its like filling a bucket with an eye dropper. Some people realize and have a healthy respect for the preparation process, they know things will be difficult, and confront it head on. Btw every guy I’ve …
/r/seduction10/07/19 01:23 AM
1

Again, you don’t listen very well. 2-3 a week is fine. Anymore than that, probably need to quit.
/r/seduction10/07/19 01:14 AM
1

Beer gets you fat around the midsection, and unless it’s like 2 beers after an entire week of killing yourself in gym and diet, it’s keeping you from better things in life.
/r/seduction10/07/19 12:41 AM
3

Ok man I’m not any Casanova, by any means, nor am I that good looking. I’ve made out with a good number of cute girls, fucked a couple, and dated 1. If I can do it so can you. First of all, you need to listen properly, which you don’t do very well. Nowhere did I say you need to be sexless for 10 years. I said you need to seriously commit to gym, diet, and sleep for 3 months straight, 4-6 times a week, rain or shine. That’s like step 1. Can you even do that, without turning it into a negative thi…
/r/seduction10/07/19 12:38 AM
1

Beer isn’t going to help you score. Why in the world would you say it’s part of your personality? Who says stuff like that. Man the fuck up. Beer and bars will always be there for the rest of your life, so will friends. Start working on yourself, 24 7. Don’t worry about anyone else. You yourself said you have no SMV. So you need to develop those traits. And not for women, but for yourself. It all starts with diet, exercise, and good sleep. That’s the basics. Can’t do that, then lots of luck to y…
/r/seduction10/07/19 12:28 AM
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Look at my other post. Start figuring it out. And not for girls that is some straight up pussy shit. Start lifting weights, start eating tons of cooked veggies, cooked chicken with a sliced avocado everyday, sleep on time etc. You have so much work to do on yourself before anything else.
/r/seduction10/07/19 12:25 AM
1

You need to be really tough and fit, and start taking off in your career. Some women LIKE older guys. Who gives a fuck what other people think? I didn’t think about it when I was fucking a girl 10 years younger than me.
/r/seduction10/07/19 12:17 AM
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The first thing I would recommend, zero to do with girls, is become very cognizant of your diet, sleep, rigorous exercise, and water intake. You should be doing all of the above perfectly at least 4-6 days a week. That means no eating processed food, no fast food, no bars, no restaurants, no alcohol. Say no to invites because that’s where 99 percent of them are. Do that for at least 8 -10 straight weeks. And don’t brag about it or talk about it. Think of it as brushing your teeth.
/r/seduction10/07/19 12:16 AM
2

She said to set a time and place. In my experience, when the girl does that, and actually shows up, she is definitely thinking about fucking, dating, and/or a relationship, definitely doesn’t see you as just a friend. Girls don’t meet up in person unless there is some level of non platonic interest. Again just my experience, not generalizing. On some occasions a girl will show up and pull out the friend card but I think usually they won’t even show up or bother to text back if that’s the case.
/r/seduction02/07/19 08:42 AM
4

Getting the bird in response to sending a round of shots to a group of women. Honestly it wasn’t even to hit on them, it was just to be nice. I got the bird when I popped over to just say hi, and had no intention of sticking around. Kind of stung a bit.
/r/seduction02/07/19 08:21 AM
1

Someone in my family met a girl off Tinder, seriously dated her for 3 years, moved in together, then got married. They are inseparable and look great together.
/r/seduction27/06/19 09:10 PM
1

Fair enough
/r/seduction26/06/19 03:11 AM
1

They have to be EXCEPTIONAL approaches. Don’t ask for a date or number unless the both of you have had a genuinely good conversation.
/r/seduction25/06/19 09:22 PM
8

I’ve seen many good long term relationships. They get boring and predictable. It’s how life works. Couples acknowledge it and decide TOGETHER how to fix it, not ‘you’re boring, step up your game or I’m out’. The solutions usually are date night, more freaky sex, new hobbies and vacations together, marriage or more kids, etc.
/r/seduction25/06/19 09:19 PM
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Relationship game is such a stupid term. People need to accept that life gets predictable and boring. Being with someone and constantly wondering if they will break up with you if you get boring for 1 minute seems horrible.
/r/seduction25/06/19 06:58 PM
5

One thing I have never understood, men using women for sex is shouted from the rooftops, online, in social circles, on YouTube, by women who have bad dates, and flaking/ghosting doesn’t generate anywhere near the level of scorn. If you want an honorable guy, but can’t say yes, commit to a day and time in a safe public place, and actually show up, THEN decide how you feel about meeting up again? It’s really that difficult? If not and it’s just spur of the moment of course you are only going to ge…
/r/seduction24/06/19 02:51 AM
2

This is exactly why I don’t give a fuck about videos where guys get numbers. That is totally distinct from the girl actually showing up on a date. I don’t even care if you don’t get laid or kiss or whatever, but that really shows she is interested.
/r/seduction12/06/19 08:19 PM
4

Who cares about rejection. It’s ghosts and flakes who vanish after asking YOU out that need to be stopped!!!
/r/seduction05/06/19 05:35 AM
1

How about you start taking everything except a yes as a no? How good would the actual relationship be? She isn’t crazy about you. She’s already assessed you and you aren’t good enough for her to go all in. Girls who don’t make it thus complicated and just go straight from dating to exclusive early on are the ones who are marriage material. It’s clear she is not that from your own post. Girls saying be patient maybe in the first 2-3 months of dating with sex for first time sure that is fine. But …
/r/seduction29/05/19 09:57 PM
2

Why the fuck would you bother with someone who cuts you out after you hook up a bunch of times? If it didn’t go straight to exclusive relationship, then marriage, this girl is messed up in the head. Be thankful she is not the mother of your children.
/r/seduction29/05/19 09:47 PM
2

You did everything you good, and that’s commendable. If you did everything, talk right, be good looking, act right, then you just aren’t a match. Keep trying to improve but eventually you will find someone who is crazy about you.
/r/seduction26/05/19 08:19 PM
2

Would you say this is true of want and intent itself? People can sense when you WANT more from them than vice versa, meaning anything as little as a conversation or to hang out?
/r/seduction23/05/19 07:56 PM
1

It’s way easier cuz you are good looking. Waaaay easier. After a really genuinely good conversation, just ask the girl out, nail Down a time and place (enthusiastically say ‘hey you are awesome, we gotta hang! What is your schedule like this week?), or if you prefer to be more bold, just make an excuse to go back to her place or yours ‘hey you are really fun to talk to. I got this awesome drink/movie/X at my place I’d love to show you. Should I call us an Uber?’ In both instances, be bold as fuc…
/r/seduction22/05/19 12:26 AM
2

Umm from an average looking guy, I just try to have fun with the conversation. Exaggeration is key. Example - someone tells you they are sick, you say ‘I hear if you run 5 miles under 20 minutes, it can help’ you see the look of shock on their face turn to laughter when they realize you are exaggerating. My friends were discussing hooking up at a bar and I said ‘I don’t have enough dick for how much pussy gets thrown my way’, etc. if you can catch on really quickly to what the girl is talking ab…
/r/seduction22/05/19 12:14 AM
1

Whatever, I’m so anti marriage and kids, and her beauty, acting and direction of her scenes totally sold me on the dream!!!
/r/seduction20/05/19 05:33 PM
1

Did anyone see the movie ‘about time’? Fuck, Rachel McAdams nails the too perfect to be real role. Lol makes me want to marry and have kids 😂
/r/seduction20/05/19 02:35 PM
1

Yeah that’s the perfect woman in my opinion. I would marry someone like that and do everything in my power to make a good life for the both of us. I hate bitchy, unappreciative people, and keep as far away from them as possible.
/r/seduction18/05/19 10:11 PM
1

Yeah I honestly don’t care if a girl is hot and nothing else at all, unless I have a very good chance of fucking her. Kind of like girls who don’t instantly ghost , block and ban a guy who is a bully and/or abuser, I loathe guys who give bitchy, stuck-up girls an ounce of attention.
/r/seduction16/05/19 07:04 PM
2

It doesn’t sound that way to me. She sounds rude and stuck up. Just me, but I’m looking for a sweetheart, that really my point for approaching, to find out if she is or she isn’t.
/r/seduction16/05/19 05:55 PM
3

I think approaching cannot be seen as trying to impress, or convincing them to date you. The girl has to reciprocate fairly early in the interaction, and you have to pick up on that instantly.
/r/seduction16/05/19 05:46 PM
1

I’ve had condom sex for years, it gets boring if you have too much. Raw dog (a faithful gf and the pill combined, where you check it everyday with her, is a man’s ultimate dream come true)
/r/seduction15/05/19 03:23 AM
1

Anything but a yes to a date and accepting an invite to hang out at time and place of your choosing and not cancelling is a big, fat, NO!!! Start telling yourself that any time you hear ANY thing besides my definition of a yes, and don’t waste your time chasing a dragon like heroin users.
/r/seduction08/05/19 03:26 AM
1

Well IMO it’s vastly overstated how into money women are when it comes to dating. And there are guys who I’ve seen do very well with women consistently, so it’s not unheard of.
/r/seduction05/05/19 08:40 PM
2

Lol pardon my direct Q but I don’t see your looks being an issue. Guess we all struggle!
/r/seduction05/05/19 08:28 PM
2

Yeah and let’s not even use such strong language like undeserving - just don’t need or want it from us. Girls who do WILL reciprocate and WILL make themselves available. Anything but a yes AND accepting a definite invite (time, day, and place), is a no. Try to think along those lines and I think you’ll find yourself wasting less time on people in general.
/r/seduction04/05/19 01:05 AM
3

I mean typically (there are always exceptions), but after you have had sex with a girl 3 times, no matter how hot she is, your infatuation dissolves. Sure maybe you still want to see her and fuck her again, but you don’t need to anymore, which is a key difference. My friend told me once never develop any feelings or attachment to a woman until you have fucked her at least 3 times. Before that feel nothing, no matter how great your conversations go. It’s important to remember all of us fall for s…
/r/seduction03/05/19 10:02 PM
1

I think if you fuck anyone more than 3 times, you kind of lose all attachment. Even really pretty girls. Try not to like or envy anyone until you have done that. Lots of heartache comes from liking people too soon.
/r/seduction03/05/19 07:50 AM
2

It happens but nowhere near as much as TV and media would have you believe. How it goes down is also very different.
/r/seduction27/04/19 03:59 AM
2

I can chime in on this one and actually know what works because I did it myself - but this is more relating to losing facial fat, but it will to an extent shape your jawline. Over 7-8 months, in addition to working out and eating clean and sleeping on time and drinking tons of water all the time, this is the key - eat slow as fuck. Meaning you don’t take actual meals with people, you take them at your desk while working and you take 30 minutes - 2 hour to finish any real meal. You chew each bite…
/r/seduction26/04/19 05:40 AM
1

Shit lol I’m replying out of compassion- look I am not good looking at all. I also have zero game. But I’ve been with women or have been in situations with women where I could have fucked them really easily or I have. I was picked over the better looking guy twice in my life. I’ve hooked up friends with girls who didn’t really care because they have done it so many times on their own. If I have done it once, so can anyone else, I am NOT an expert or guru , and so can you. And I appreciate the se…
/r/seduction25/04/19 11:26 PM
1

You are getting very wound up in a bad mindset. This above post confirms it. First of all, yeah sure maybe you aren’t #1 in looks. But you need to try a lot harder in other areas of life, actually your hardest. Being number one in the gym, work, having GENUINE laughs with family and friends, hobbies, being well-spoken, learning how to properly talk shit, etc, how to sexualize conversations and how to flirt. Good luck trying to master these things when you spend all this time internalizing your p…
/r/seduction24/04/19 09:09 PM
2

The fact that you out loud refer to yourself as a 1 or 2 speaks volumes about your mental attitude and self confidence. Let’s say the girls you want, only want an ‘objectively’ handsome guy, I.e. chad - the thing is, girls who require that specifically aren’t the majority, not by a long shot. From my experiences, the ones who have these stringent requirements aren’t fun to talk to or fuck, even with the guys who get them. I don’t feel sad or like I’m missing out because they didn’t pick me, and …
/r/seduction24/04/19 07:31 PM
1

Simple is the way to go!
/r/seduction21/04/19 06:40 PM
1

Want to get out of here?
/r/seduction20/04/19 10:02 PM
1

I think the girl following through is everything. Not necessarily to fuck, but that she makes herself available at an agreed upon time and place after the approach and doesn’t cancel. Nothing happens otherwise.
/r/seduction20/04/19 08:19 PM
3

I suffer sometimes from social anxiety, so here is what helps me out to feel less nervous and more relaxed 1. Be extremely articulate and short about simple things and situations. If you can describe things in a funny and interesting way, it helps a lot. When I’m with my friends and it’s awkward silence, that is what i do to break the ice. 2. Use whatever she says in a playful manner to move the conversation forward. 3. Don’t be too invested in the outcome, that’s when you stop being in the mome…
/r/seduction20/04/19 06:41 AM
1

I think assigning numbers to a person is dumb and one dimensional.
/r/seduction19/04/19 01:28 AM
1

The only guys I know who regularly date and hook up with beautiful women have literally every box in their life checked off. Physique, profession, balance, mental attitude, etc. And they don’t even think it’s a big deal. Getting with a pretty girl is not a big deal compared to the rest of their life.
/r/seduction17/04/19 06:10 PM
4

Good watch and effort but the one thing all these in-fielders need to show is which girls actually did come through after the number exchange. I suck with women and I’ve had interactions this good or better (sometimes kiss sober, not drunk), and STILL got ghosted after when I reached out to meet up after. don’t need to be convinced by a pick up guy that they have fucked whose number they got, but I am very impressed if the girl accepts and actually shows up to a concrete invite after the day of …
/r/seduction16/04/19 02:03 AM
1

Can we start a subreddit, purely just cooking and no other topics?!?
/r/MGTOW17/03/19 03:33 AM
1

Yeah but everything you are saying is the worst case scenario and it assumes you just a statistic. I’ve gotten the good looking girl over the better looking guy more than once. It wasn’t easy, but I did it anyway. Or you can just sell yourself short. You can also end up with lots of egg on your face if you assume that right off the bat with people who you have met for the first time, and have no idea about what they are like.
/r/askTRP04/01/19 01:00 AM
1

And I think that was the case before the metoo movement. I wouldn’t say it’s really changed anything for me overall. I agree, appreciate, and empathize with your sentiment. But its too negative and it takes the focus off your own efforts. When I busted my ass to be attractive, and constantly focused on my looks and behavior and having extremely positive interaction with women, THEN asked them out, sometimes I got a yes, and even if I got a no, it was super kind and a big thank you for asking (I …
/r/askTRP03/01/19 05:22 PM
2

Anything but a yes is no. Hard and fast rule. Lately my rejections have been remarkably polite. Gotten a big hug and a thankyouinsoflattered from the girl. I think the most unsaid thing about the metoo movement was that dating was already hard as fuck for guys in October 2017 (not that the pro-woman media ever noticed) when all the shit hit the fan. Guys are going to check out eventually.
/r/askTRP03/01/19 09:37 AM
1

Slut shaming is the most irritating shit ever. I’ve made out with a girl in France, and her friend bought us shots right after and we all took photos. It was NO BIG DEAL. Girls friends in the US go apeshit if their friend is hitting it off with a guy and they are not. This is true no matter how well the interaction is going. I have no issues with girls fucking whoever they like as long as they are safe about it, but women always need to chime in. Women like policing other women’s consensual beha…
/r/MGTOW31/12/18 05:46 AM
1

In a perfect week I pull that off 4 times. On a typically week it’s more like 2-3 times, and I order postmates. But being aware of it is a step in the right direction.
/r/MGTOW20/11/18 08:59 AM
1

Yeah I never thought I’d get less shallow but I care much, much, much less about hotties than I did when I was younger. I don’t hate all women, I’ve just had very limited experience with most, including those I dated for a little while. I’m not 100 percent MGTOW and actually unsubscribes because I got sick of all the women bashing I read. I think it’s very unhealthy to have zero positive interactions with women. And even if that’s not going on all the time, I’d rather focus on personal hobbies o…
/r/MGTOW20/11/18 08:24 AM
2

Stretched, Worked out, went to the sauna, showered and shaved. 3 hours gone. Time for work around 9am-ish. First meal at 2-3 pm - I am into intermittent fasting, so I only eat 2-ish meals later in the day. I have also hired a personal chef, he preps meals during the week just the way o like - clean protein, clean veggies, clean carbs. Late night cereal helps stave off the appetite after that. After I get off work, just go home and play videogames, sometimes talk to my roommate over a glass of wi…
/r/MGTOW14/11/18 06:35 AM
1

It’s also because they don’t want to give away their youth to someone who is not in it for the long haul. It makes perfect sense from a biological standpoint.
/r/MGTOW13/11/18 05:27 PM
2

In all fairness, girls do want long term commitment, so marriage is a sign of that. They don’t realize that a marriage may not last and it’s not on their mind when they get married.
/r/MGTOW13/11/18 05:51 AM
1

Did she EMAIL that to you? Or did she SAY that to you?
/r/MGTOW13/11/18 04:25 AM
3

People, not just women, do not really give a shit about your desperate gestures made in hopes of validation.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 06:42 AM
7

She should talk to Brian Banks or the Duke Lacrosse team and say ‘false accusations are rare!’
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 04:16 AM
17

When sex robots are indistinguishable AND you can request a replica based on a celebrity. That will be something.
/r/MGTOW06/11/18 04:24 AM
0

Yeah but attractive women make your dick hard. That’s also a cold, hard truth. Are nice hot girls plentiful? No. Are they out there? Yes. Are they online all day wailing about the awful men in the world? Probably not.
/r/MGTOW04/11/18 11:40 PM
2

I actually saw someone go to jail. Who knows if they actually got charged, but it would be a shitty position to be in.
/r/MGTOW04/11/18 08:49 PM
2

I don’t know what you are saying has to do with attractive vs. unattractive so much as ‘you don’t know anyone (guy or girl, ugly or attractor’ until you have dated anyone for 6 months.’ Everyone seems great in the beginning, because we are supposed to put our best foot forward. Familiarity with someone takes away that magic. You spend too much time with anyone, and that’s what will happen. It’s very rare that someone maintains the great first impression at all times. From my experience, I’ve met…
/r/MGTOW04/11/18 08:47 PM
1

I agree with most of your post, but the thing I always watched out for is I never go to the chick. Strip Clubs have gotten raided for this sort of thing many times, if they don’t pay off the local LE. If a girl comes to my house it’s a lot more private and safe. Just a thought though, to each his own.
/r/MGTOW04/11/18 10:51 AM
2

You are confusing MGTOW with woman-hater. I don’t believe in marriage, I don’t despise women. And no, not all attractive women are bitches. Are there bitchy attractive women? Of course there are. And have you and I had different experiences? Yes. But there are many situations where I have seen, unattractive women be just as bitchy, if not more so. And I’m speaking from direct experience. I also don’t know what you meant by unattractive. Do you facially, body (fat), or both? I think most women ca…
/r/MGTOW04/11/18 10:46 AM
1

One time, long time ago, I went to a club and got rejected by some girls who were dancing. No problem. I then went up to some other girl, and she said yes to me dancing. We were dancing near the girls who had first rejected me. Those girls began bumping into me and the girl I was dancing with, noticeably hard. I eventually spun around and said Back the F—- up. The bouncer got involved and threw me out of the club right away. I snuck back an hour later because I came with my friend who was still …
/r/MGTOW04/11/18 09:35 AM
1

Yeah get back on it. The guys who do it very consistently, and try hard in all other areas of life, usually get girls
/r/MGTOW04/11/18 08:23 AM
1

Hopefully friends that fuck
/r/MGTOW04/11/18 08:19 AM
2

Really stupid generalization. I have met really chill, very attractive women. I have met bitchy, unattractive women who I hated spending my time with. And vice versa in both instances. I think where a girl comes from, her upbringing, hobbies, and looks can play a part in how chill she is.
/r/MGTOW04/11/18 08:18 AM
5

In a community property state you wouldn’t be entitled to inheritance even during marriage, as long as it isn’t commingled with the community estate.
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 04:33 PM
1

There is something wrong with it. I don’t even want a hot chick right after I rub one out.
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 04:32 PM
1

Whose looking at him? She is cute!!!
/r/MGTOW31/10/18 07:41 AM
1

30 days is the longest i went sober and was really productive. Like anything, felt tough during, but great afterwards.
/r/MGTOW26/10/18 07:20 AM
3

Yes rage is stupid! Toughness is hard to exhibit, but a tough man doesn’t get rattled by drama.
/r/MGTOW25/10/18 05:38 AM
3

Welcome to the club
/r/MGTOW25/10/18 05:37 AM
1

When girls say that out of nowhere, they are absolutely considering it. Particularly if you didn’t bring sex into the conversation. It is the ultimate statement not to take literally, and you need to not respond literally. Her body language is the telling card here, and would determine if you give a playful response like ‘fair enough, I’ll settle for a kiss’ or riskier, a ‘blowjob’. But don’t get all weird and offended. This is a classic line to test your response.
/r/MGTOW25/10/18 01:50 AM
2

Super difficult and I don’t do it all the time. Work out, sleep on time, and eat clean the entire day - no processed food, all meals per-prepped, i.e. fruits, veggies, lots of healthy fats, clean protein, Greek yogurt. And be totally sober. If you really want to go all out work out twice in one day. The ultimate goal is to fall asleep.
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 04:06 PM
1

Now that it has been proven false, why does that apply
/r/MGTOW21/10/18 05:37 PM
1

I used to think that way, but it’s pretty extreme mentality and can do lots of damage to your psyche.
/r/MGTOW20/10/18 06:37 PM
1

Not sure. I just think it is important to have positive interactions with women, in some form or another. Monk mode and total isolation I don’t agree with.
/r/MGTOW20/10/18 04:15 PM
1

I think you could be an MGTOW and be married with kids. Just as long as you are the head of the household and it’s recognized.
/r/MGTOW20/10/18 06:16 AM
2

Can’t their names be posted online
/r/MGTOW20/10/18 05:41 AM
2

Are they drunk?
/r/MGTOW18/10/18 05:48 AM
1

It’s crazy right? I’m not denying that lots of girls text/email/flirt with guys at bars that they will never meet up with. Hell I’ve had my friends openly tell me a girl who flirted with me at a bar was more into me than anyone they had ever seen at a bar. The next day she pulled the ‘I am just not dating now’ card. I wasn’t surprised or disappointed because I knew nothing counts until she shows up alone in public on a Friday night at a place I choose. Which the OP clearly didn’t do. You know wh…
/r/MGTOW13/10/18 05:00 PM
1

You should have just IGNORED her and talked to some other girl you fancy, who actually wants to meet up.
/r/MGTOW13/10/18 04:55 PM
1

No you are stupid and immature. It’s going to show in your interactions that shit like this doesn’t roll off your back. To put so much energy in someone who is not a friend, family member, or anything at all is insane. Consider a different perspective.
/r/MGTOW13/10/18 04:53 PM
1

It’s rude, psycho, and creepy to do what this guy did. I’ve fucked girls who turned out to have a bf all along or got engaged right after they dropped me (and we ACTUALLY met up cuz I got asked out by some of these girls made out, and made plans to go out again). Some girls have gotten married right me (we were on the down low all along)I was disappointed, as anyone would be, but it has never crossed my mind ‘call them out’ over social media and notify their bf. It’s not simp to feel happy or no…
/r/MGTOW13/10/18 04:50 PM
5

Yeah but it doesn’t matter, she NEVER met up with him once alone anywhere, planned or spontaneous. Ever single girl I fucked or dated had zero issue with that, I didn’t even think about it. And you learn not to get affected by girls who suggest meeting up, then don’t, because if you aren’t clueless, you’ll make plans around your schedule, so there is no inconvenience to you if they don’t show up. Guys should hold all girls to this standard. Think about what the OP did - this girl drained so much…
/r/MGTOW13/10/18 09:24 AM
34

I’m a big time MGTOW but I gotta be real with you. Nothing was there - all that shit is in your mind, made up. You know what the strongest indicator is that a girl wants to fuck you? That she meets you alone on a Friday or Saturday night at a place that you choose. Girls get sooo many more requests for their time than you could imagine, so a girl really has to have a lot of interest to clear her itinerary one weekend for you. If she likes you, that WILL happen. If it doesn’t, no matter what the …
/r/MGTOW13/10/18 09:16 AM
11

What a loser
/r/MGTOW09/10/18 07:07 AM
1

This is so easy. Get her to role play in the bedroom. Write out a whole script, something to act out right before you fuck -should be really short and to the point, but go all the way with it. Teacher/student, psychologist/patient. That way, you stand out no matter what happens after that.
/r/seduction09/10/18 06:52 AM
1

He ever get lap dances at a strip Club???
/r/MGTOW07/10/18 06:42 PM
1

And sorry for your divorce and your loss. I’ll concede I cannot relate to how you may be feeling right now. But my prior arguments remains, you have some form of responsibility to your children, every dad does.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 11:45 PM
1

I’ll never agree with someone who says their kid isn’t their responsibility. Unless the courts SAY you have zero financial obligation and BAR you from being with your child, there is some form of responsibility.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 11:42 PM
1

Nope nope you are wrong and I hope you are not a dad or ever become one.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 03:54 PM
1

You all are a bunch of pussies. You want to do weakness?
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 07:32 AM
1

And no, it is not true to an extent, it is the only truth. The idea of ‘maybe’ suggests no sense of responsibility. You don’t get to snuff out young children or abandon them entirely because of a divorce. It’s not understandable. At all. That’s what some of us call a monstrous, or a cop out. Because if you take the position your kid is not your responsibility, your kid will at heart, feel like half of him/her is not there. A kid is to an extent, helpless and innocent. How many kids grow up think…
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 07:19 AM
1

You are missing something. The divorce is not the fault of children, whether or not the courts do change, and whether or not the system is broken. They need love and support, and whether or not your wife divorces you. Divorce can also be a good thing in one regard - people who don’t love each other can focus all of their energy on loving their child, who needs it. It’s not understandable that a father snuffs out his kid just because of a divorce, that is reprehensible, regardless of whether or n…
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 07:12 AM
2

It’s so funny how religious groups and feminists try to police men’s personal, non illegal behavior. It’s in the vein of getting angry at older men and younger women hooking up, or men hooking up with escorts who are doing it with total free will and no coercion. I never comment on other people’s relationships because it’s none of my business. But I see sooo many women snarl or snark at others consensual relationships, as if their right to do so.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 02:18 PM
1

Saying it’s ok to kill your kids signals a lack of perspective on your part, or even saying it’s understandable. It’s a bit crazy to tell you the truth. Don’t get married if you aren’t ready for that. Marriage doesn’t guarantee divorce. There are plenty of divorced men who don’t go on killing sprees. Some divorced dads make so much money that a divorce won’t ruin them and drive them to despair.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 02:11 PM
1

That’s IF your wife divorces you. They aren’t changing the rules anytime soon. So don’t take the plunge and get into the system. One thing I have to say is, do you know any married couples at all that haven’t gotten divorced? Because I know plenty, older and my own age. I don’t want to get married or have kids, but I know lots of happy married couples. But whether or not you get divorced, your kids are your responsibility. That’s just a fact of life.
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 02:05 PM
1

I’m sensing sarcasm, but if you are serious, got to see people as they are, not who you want them to be. That goes double or triple for wife and kids. Your kid could come out autistic, crippled, or have a learning disability. Either way, the law says you take care of a kid until 18. Or give them up for adoption. This guy shouldn’t have had kids. No one puts a gun to your head and forces you to knock up a chick. That is his own fault. Saying or implying otherwise just deflects responsibility. In …
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 02:01 PM
2

Those rules aren’t going to change anytime soon so act accordingly.
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 03:59 PM
2

Then don’t get married. Don’t have kids. Killing your own kids is inexcusable.
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 03:58 PM
3

Pull out Tinder, OkCupid, bumble, Facebook, on the phone of a guy and girl side by side and see who has more invites to meet up for free drinks and dinner. Have each guy and girl message who they like on any of those apps, and see who gets more replies. Then come back and tell me who has more options.
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 06:57 AM
1

Completely disagree. I have had great conversations with strippers and fucked some extremely hot ones. The diamonds in the rough are the hotties who work in the daytime. Come there looking your absolute best, after months of working out and diet, and you may have a shot. Not all of them give it up, but at the very least you will get an awesome lap dance. The one things lots of strip club and escort haters overlook is that you REALLY stand out if you are really in shape and are really nice and fu…
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 06:21 AM
2

Posting stuff this undermines the MGTOW movement. You have kids, they are your responsibility up until 18.
/r/MGTOW24/09/18 06:18 AM
2

His wife allows for an open marriage if you read between the lines
/r/MGTOW18/08/18 11:32 PM
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