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Red pill “knowledge” is just “common sense”, with an extra frisson of misogyny and edgelordism so you have to hide it in polite company lest you embarrass yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 09:34 PM
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If you treat every women like the village bicycle, you’re going to end up with women who are ok being treated like the village bicycle. Well, it’s your self-fulfilling prophecy, carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 09:30 PM
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If women wanted to send their n counts into the stratosphere and fuck 24/7/365, I assure you we could. Strangely, that does not seem to happen. In fact, men are always complaining about not getting enough sex, both in and out of relationships. Hmmm, I wonder why that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 09:15 PM
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If you really think we’re thirsty to ride 100 mediocre dicks, I believe you may be projecting just a tad
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 08:55 PM
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Watching the crabs can be amusing though
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 05:51 PM
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I agree, but you’re in the wrong sub for encouraging people to enjoy life. See how people fight you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 05:12 PM
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It is, but people love excuses
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:45 PM
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“If it doesn’t guarantee success, I ain’t doin it!!” Inertia is powerful
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:28 PM
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I thought you were a winner with an awesome life? You sure enjoy telling us about it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:27 PM
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Google exists
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:23 PM
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If you’re determined to be miserable and live in the past, no one can stop you But, psa, from mid 30s on, looks matter way less in all areas of life. If you don’t develop other things and skills, you are going to miss out
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:12 PM
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Your “looks” last 15 years, 20 if you’re lucky, out of 70. Why wouldn’t that be a bad investment?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:05 PM
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“He’s an asshole, but not to me” is one of the most common tropes out there. See also, “beauty and the beast”, “I can change him!” and “the transformative power of love” The “but not to me” is the important part, btw
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:03 PM
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“Give a man a mask”, etc., etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:00 PM
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They do it to “own the SJWs”, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:00 PM
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I don’t like fucking children, ok? Jesus I’m sure there are men who don’t as well
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 03:56 PM
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I’d like to find much younger guys attractive, but no. Ew. The body is fine; their minds are too young. Now you’ve ruined my night, yuck
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 05:17 AM
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Are you minimizing the sexual assault of minor males? Misandry!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 05:14 AM
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Men realized that policing, fighting and oppressing everyone was a grind. Carrots are cheaper, less effort, and more enjoyable than sticks. Most of these benefits were extended to women because keeping women down is also a chore
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 02:47 AM
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Amazingly, men, like women, can talk objectively about a person of the same gender and not have it be gay. Mindblowing, I know !
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 02:32 AM
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Are the men in your life that you look up to and admire defined by how many chicks they have banged...or for some other reason? I’m thinking, leaders, athletes, innovators and thinkers. Or is Hugh Hefner and Dan Bilzarian the pinnacle of manly success to men here?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:24 PM
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“If you’re not the best she’s ever had, you’re beta bux”, is how red pillers think of it, aka, “if she won’t let you put it in her poophole, you’re not attractive enough”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:20 AM
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Again, every woman could rack up an n count of 500 if she wanted to. Do you think we want to ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:14 AM
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That’s still your attitude towards contraception, regardless of whether you actually need it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 09:54 PM
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No. People’s beliefs and convictions can be easily swayed by bribes and reality, that’s all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 09:50 PM
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Fair enough, change “women suck” to “being a man sucks”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 09:44 PM
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Socialism sucks!...until I get sick and can’t pay out of pocket costs Capitalism sucks!...until I can’t get any denim jeans and milk Feminism sucks!...until all those internet trolls come after me on Twitter Women suck!...until I get a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 09:30 PM
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“Fine for thee, but not for me” Even though you want sex more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 09:15 PM
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Still hypocrisy. “Good for me, bad for you” Similar to “sex workers are beneath me, even though we have participated in the exact same act, at my behest”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:02 PM
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Which red pill truths? Most of these “truths” are basically “common sense”, simply repackaged to seem more interesting ——- You can’t control other people, only yourself Be attractive; don’t be unattractive Winners are more attractive than losers If you want a catch, be a catch Doormats aren’t respected If you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one Nobody likes a faker or “try hard” Desperation is not attractive When people show you who they are, believe them ——-Amazingly, these truth…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:00 PM
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Sure, but if you’re being a hypocrite about it, you’re gonna get called out
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:57 PM
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TIL women don’t get raped/murdered/pregnant/assaulted. Nor do we get blamed for wearing the wrong thing, being too friendly, being too unfriendly, being in a dangerous place at the wrong time, talking to men, not talking to men, interacting with men, being alone with men, and basically not expecting men to rape/kill/assault/use us for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 04:04 PM
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You’re assuming that men’s and women’s “fun” isn’t antagonistic. Men want to have fun but don’t want women to have fun, because sluts. It’s selfish hypocrisy, but they argue they are in the right because “biotruths”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 03:49 PM
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You should want that though. Those are good genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 03:08 PM
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The answer, none. Guess they really aren’t as concerned about sperm jacking as they said they were; it was just something to whine about and blame women for. Surprise, surprise. It’s totally ok for women to fuck their up bodies for an activity that men want to do so very much, but ask men to endure a little discomfort....oh no!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 03:04 PM
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Who do you think is putting titties in these shows, games, ads, movies, etc? Hint: not women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 04:18 AM
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Yes, several times Why would it affect my philosophy? My feelings are my responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 03:48 AM
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So, all teachers are men, and child care has no effect on children? Very interesting! Be sure to tell nurses, techs, CNAs and doctors that when you roll into the ER
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 02:26 AM
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Why are other men not as worthy as you? You do realize that there are roughly equivalent numbers of men and women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 02:22 AM
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If we are such terrible people, then why are we allowed to do the majority of the rearing of the precious, precious male children?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 02:21 AM
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American popular culture and entertainment is pretty dominant world wide. We can’t do much about that. Most people on this sub are American, and it would be pretty arrogant of them to comment on the dating culture of countries they know nothing about, don’t you think ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 06:30 PM
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I said I wasn’t going to reply but: I’m pretty sure blue pill men know that women cheat and aren’t perfect I mean, blue pill means “the status quo/current accepted reality” and not “willful blindness”, doesn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 06:13 PM
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This is male privilege, dudes. Women have to develop awareness of male nature and desires early, or we get raped, killed, abused and pregnant. Or ignored, if we aren’t hot. Men expect to be spoon fed reality and then soothed when it isn’t to their liking
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 06:10 PM
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So then why does this delusion in particular require concern?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 06:05 PM
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Like I said, I’m sorry to bring this up, but most men here would consider you to be a “blue pilled simp” or whatever the kids are calling it nowadays. I’m pretty sure your relationship, as satisfying as it is to you personally, is not appealing to most men. Anyways, you can reply, but I feel bad enough about this thread so I am going to stop here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 06:00 PM
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I don’t believe that. Guys here say they wish people told them to be an asshole. Do you think most of them are attractive or socially skilled enough for that to be a good strategy? You appreciate detailed instruction, but not everyone does. And if it doesn’t result in success? And again, I’m really sorry to harp on this, but you are not a good example of Joe Average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 05:49 PM
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Then the only thing I could realistically and responsibly say to a guy is, “No, I don’t want to fuck the person you are right now.” No advice, no suggestions, no direction, no preserving of feelings or ego. Because I can’t guarantee success. As long as that provokes violence and resentment in guys (and it does), women will not do that. Sorry, not risking life and limb for that. We protect businesses and other interpersonal relationships from absolute guarantees, but sexual/romantic relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 05:36 PM
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Here’s the truth — it doesn’t matter what you tell guys. If it fails to get them what they want, be it sex or relationships, with the person they want, they will blame you for saying it. Or heck, it works with any gender, for any thing. Didn’t get the job? Blame the immigrants/university/economy! People know this. That’s why they spit out generalized platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 05:27 PM
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Ok. You want a woman, but you sure don’t seem to care if they want you. That’s kind of what people are picking up on in your comments, the one-sided objectification. Humanity and universality sure are a bother sometimes! That better?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 05:22 PM
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Of course. That’s exactly what “women are too picky/don’t go for their looksmatch” is all about. And it’s complained about endlessly here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 05:14 PM
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Nice deflection of my point/deliberate misdirection. I’m sure no one will notice!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 05:00 PM
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You want a woman unit, but you sure don’t seem to care if they want you. That’s kind of what people are picking up on in your comments, the one-sided objectification. Humanity and universality sure are a bother sometimes!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 04:44 PM
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Men demand sex from women. In fact, that’s pretty much all they want. Women oblige, for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 04:41 PM
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Men too have to decide to have sex. Or are you saying all men are raped when they have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 04:38 PM
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Probably the single most important part of “civilized” society is containing, redirecting, and repressing male violence. As opposed to anarchy, which is characterized by, yes, chaos and violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 04:36 PM
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Well, men would be lazy too...if they could get away with it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 04:25 PM
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Or part-time. Or after work hours. You think kids don’t need care from 6 pm to 7 am? Or after they start going to school?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 04:22 PM
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Most women work, ya know. Are they all manly brutes? Is employment “masculine”?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 03:40 PM
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That’s a fair complaint, as long as hubby hasn’t shoved the majority of childcare and housework onto her and let himself go physically, sexually, and romantically as well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:13 AM
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Trust me, I am no more fond of groupies than you are. I find that behavior sad and parasitic...but understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:10 AM
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Then there are a lot of people with no self control, both here and in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 12:51 AM
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Either way, should “love” enable and support these dysfunctional and harmful behaviors? Women aren’t the ones complaining about a lack of “unconditional” support for their shit; they usually complain about infidelity and emotional abandonment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 08:51 PM
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If I was assuming a relationship was going to result from sex, no orgasm is ok. If this is just sex, then yes, I expect to orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:48 PM
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Let’s think of it from a sociological viewpoint. Fundamentalist Mormons. One dude marries 20 women. Another dude marries 25 women. And so on. What do they do with the teen boys who would have liked to marry those women in the community? They dump them on the side of the road near Vegas and declare them excommunicated sinners. Those boys are “disposable males” in their community
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:28 PM
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It’s a protection racket, is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:21 PM
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That’s sad I guess my upbringing was heavily male. There was a lot of masculine shaming, but thankfully most was not directed at me, obviously. Most of my male relatives seem normal, but who knows. They didn’t grow up into men I want to be around
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:35 PM
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Of course we don’t all cheat! Some of us are actually totally satisfied; some of us are really lazy or indifferent, just like men!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:17 PM
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The complete sentence is “A woman gets used for sex because what she really wanted was a long term relationship and marriage”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:15 PM
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We’re heading into a recession early thanks to the virus. So... whatever happens during that, in the long run?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:09 PM
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The only person I’ve ever heard say “man up”...were men. Now, I’m not at all saying women don’t use this against men, but I’ve only ever seen this done as intergender behavioral policing. Like my dad, commanding my 2 year old nephew to “be a man!” and stop crying. That was a rude wake up call
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:43 PM
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Yeah well, lots of men think “love me unconditionally” means “love me no matter what I do — hit you, hit the kids, cheat, drink, lie, be a leech, play video games all day, disregard your feelings” (not, “love me no matter what happens that is out of my control, which is totally different) Should all those behaviors be rewarded and enabled? Unconditional love is great for kids who don’t know better. Adults who won’t be responsible for their behavior, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:30 PM
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Yah, seriously. A mother will still Iove a loser, a criminal, or a drug addict — but it doesn’t mean she will be happy or won’t be disappointed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:28 PM
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It’s not my fault it if you’re dissatisfied with your situation. Stop blaming other people for your weird issues, it’s sad and immature. It’s not other people’s job to live your life and find happiness for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:15 PM
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We already had our autonomy curtailed for hundreds of thousands of years, so I will kindly decline that generous option to get back in the cage. I still don’t consider us equal and free, as I personally cannot travel or move around my own environment without exception. As I’ve said before, I’m confident that VR/tech will get us over the hump.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:02 PM
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Again, you can just say “let’s take away women’s rights”. I, like most people, prefer short, concise, and to the point in favor of verbose, hypothetical pontificating. This is part of the reason women prefer assholes to niceguys: both want to use you to ejaculate, but only one of them is lying about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:43 PM
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If a woman reminding you she doesn’t have to fuck you and that other men exist is so traumatizing, you might want to get some therapy. ‘Cause that’s just called life
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:38 PM
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So, sacrifice our rights to make it equal? Fuck men we don’t want to and have babies we don’t want to, so the next generation can also fuck men they don’t want to and have babies they don’t want to? You have gone on and on in your many comments, and all you had to say was, “we should take away women’s rights!” So easy! Doesn’t it feel good to finally spit it out!? I can also see you don’t care if the woman you fuck wants to fuck you, so why not get a hooker? It’s pretty much the same thing at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:24 PM
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I’m not. Please explain how me controlling who I fuck is not equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:10 PM
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How do I register men as not my level? I consider our rights equal. You control your body, I control my body.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:08 PM
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Unfortunately, sex is an act between consenting humans, not of a human on a thing. So, my right to not fuck you is equivalent to your right to fuck me. Life, liberty and the right to not get raped! It is obvious why lots of people try very hard to argue that men and women are different, so as to separate women’s humanity and therefore justify why our rights are lesser and should be subsumed to men’s. “Separate but equal” was wrong then, and it’s wrong now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 09:33 PM
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As far as I’m concerned, the only power I have is the power to say “no, please leave me alone”. Since you consider that inhumane and excessive, I have nothing more to say to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 09:30 PM
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Sigh, I guess I confused you. My point was that gender policing (of which emotional suppression is a part) occurs in the family first, and by men, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 09:27 PM
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Well, I’m already fucking someone, so it would be rather rude and hypergamous of me to lie back and think of England while you plug away at me, isn’t that right? So, sorry, I can’t help you. Guess I’m all used up!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 09:01 PM
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Are women the ones calling men “faggots” and threatening to “pound the pink” out of them? In my experience, it’s the dads who have the problem with deviations from masculinity and admonish their sons to “man up” and “be a man”, and who never talk to their boys. I witnessed this in my family and many others. I even got a mild taste of it as a tomboy. Now, granted these fathers are just trying to be good dads and prepare boys for adulthood, it still seems to start from there. It wasn’t my cousin’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 08:47 PM
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Not true, in this weird apocalyptic math scenario. A single woman can probably have 10-20 healthy kids in her lifetime, with 10-20 different men as fathers, for maximum genetic diversity. So all other men become superfluous. However, the number of women a single man can impregnate is pretty much infinite, even though they will all be half-siblings
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 08:38 PM
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Yes, 1 man and 100 women can make more babies than 100 men and 1 women, at its core, ok? But really, is this applicable in situations other than dire “survival of the species/group”? The ideal situation is diversity, to provide options in harsher scenarios. Modern humans are kind of...not subject to these limits, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 08:22 PM
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How do men not know this about other men? Do they have to be taught this? Boys have friends, do they not? And where did this idea that one person should be anyone’s sole source of support and vulnerability come from? Doesn’t seem healthy for either gender Here’s the thing about male weakness and emotions in front of female partners. Often, the woman is already doing a lot of emotional management already - doing the bulk of the childcare and managing relationships with family and friends, and of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 08:05 PM
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If men are so understanding and supportive of male weakness, then why is there this problem of male loneliness, isolation, and emotional dependence on female partners ? I’m not saying it, men are
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 07:42 PM
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“Disposability” is a weird argument based on strict biological terms and shouldn’t be extrapolated to other areas. All it means is that, technically, the differing capacities of the two genders means that women are the limiting factor in reproduction, and that the number of men is not important in determining the reproductive success of a population in total. If you need more, Wikipedia has an article. This is macro theory, and doesn’t really affect daily life — unless you’re living in a war zon…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 07:18 PM
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I don’t like it either but accept why it exists Just like male thirst in general. The tendency to inflate ones ego/self also tends to make men less satisfying as partners, but probably better leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:45 PM
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Women don’t kill or injure strange women or female family members anywhere near the amount that men injure male strangers or family.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:44 PM
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Dominance and “taking care of your own shit like a fucking adult” are not the same thing, ok? That includes being submissive and other sexual fetishes. Don’t whine about it, educate if you must, communicate, and don’t be selfish. It’s not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:33 PM
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I believe the violence caused by men is what tips the balance. And yes, I believe men will be violent even in the absence of women. And if we can use tech to basically make men into women, why is it then necessary to genocide women? I think a Matrix-like VR outcome is way more likely than the misogynist fantasy you have put forth
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 05:36 PM
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Interestingly, in the study about the effect of brain function in space, women did come out better — but I am not interested in that aspect of the study, since I assume we will not be actually living in space. What was interesting is that the male mice they took with them into space had to be separated to prevent them from killing and injuring each other. https://qz.com/644344/for-the-success-of-space-exploration-we-need-more-female-astronauts/ https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/0…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 04:23 PM
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Men derive no benefit from underestimating themselves. You don’t try, you don’t fuck. If you overestimate yourself, you might get lucky even if you shouldn’t. Unfortunately, this tendency of course results in greater disappointment and frustration
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 04:07 PM
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If you want to get cost/benefit-y about it, women are way cheaper then men. How much do you think we would have to spend on the military, law enforcement and prisons without men? On security and weapons? And if we can eliminate women, surely we could eliminate women’s menstrual/childbirth costs first. Why are men’s insurance premiums higher than women’s? Because men incur more costs. Ruthless companies don’t care about sensibilities after all, just profit. NASA and the military already know that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:52 PM
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Words have meaning — I know English is not your first language, but the definition of eliminate is “to completely remove or get rid of”. It doesn’t define how that is done. Of course your fantasy sounds inhumane, because it is. Believe it or not, women are, in fact, humans. You can cloak it in the guise of economics, but most of us can see your intent. You kind of sound like a certain leader from the recent past, who wanted to “eliminate” a certain ethno-religious group who were, in his mind, “d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:20 PM
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That’s fine with me. If eliminating half of humanity because we won’t fuck you in the manner you want to is what men want, have at it. Please, do show us the moral superiority of maledom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:52 PM
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Do you think any of us are actually doing something active out in the real world? You’re not talking to the movers and shakers of society here —— those people aren’t on Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:40 PM
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Interesting. Would your wife agree with your version of the ultimatum?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:39 AM
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No, I don’t believe it’s true. I don’t believe I am a mental child incapable of love, therefore intrinsically inferior and undeserving of humanity and humane treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 10:19 PM
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Of course the complex isn’t a significant cause of ED, but it surely indicates that sex isn’t a nice, positive and respectful thing to do to someone, no? Why else is sex talked about in terms of winning and taking? It’s seen as defiling, animalistic, uncivilized, sinful, etc. To do that to another person takes a kind of hatred, don’t you think? Getting “fucked” is not a good thing, is it? Let’s not even get into the discussion around anal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 10:06 PM
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I am not fond of any philosophy that demeans me, no. Why would any woman? Red pill is for men, at the cost of women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:52 PM
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Of course it is — “the pure and holy mother of my precious innocent children can’t also be the whore that I fuck and want to do nasty things to like an animal....whoops, there goes my boner!” Please, the second a woman doesn’t want to fuck a man as often or in the manner he wants, is the second he starts to resent and hate her. Because that’s all they want from the relationship. I didn’t say it, the men here did. I got a collection of comments on my post history if you need proof. Wanna see?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:44 PM
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I admit women’s lack of thirst causes problems for men. I don’t think that increasing women’s thirst will make men happy, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:41 PM
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Ok, whatever you say, man who knows my life better than me. But men don’t disregard women, oh no! They just explain — manfully
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:34 PM
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And how do you know your standards are accurate? Remember, desires are relative!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:24 PM
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I guess you’ve built your identity on your definition, but “nice” in the English language means “polite, kind, virtuous, respectable, agreeable, fitting, and appropriate”. Are you saying those things repulse women? They like rude, mean, evil, dishonest, harsh, inappropriate, and malicious men? Society would probably be in a pretty sorry state if this were true. You don’t have to take a woman’s word for it — I’m pretty sure a man wrote the Merriam-Webster definition. Maybe you’ll believe him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:22 PM
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I don’t. The surfacing of the selfish laziness (I believe it’s called “the end of the honeymoon period”) was what ended it, not what started it. You can bet they were on their best behavior initially
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:15 PM
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Yes, the point is, they like the stuff, not the behavior. But guys here are claiming the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:14 PM
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What do you think the Madonna-Whore complex is about? That’s totally what it is, and very common
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:13 PM
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Again — all those hideous Disney princes, homecoming kings, class presidents, movie stars, amirite? How crazy that life is so different! Your attraction is not based on utility? Pray, what “use” would a woman have to you if she couldn’t make your dick hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:43 PM
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Right, because productive assholes have leeches, all women are attracted to productive assholes? What if he hadn’t been a movie producer but a contractor? Think he would have had orbiters then ? Same asshole, different products — what do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:40 PM
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Or, perhaps the women who don’t mind/like aggression and selfishness stick around, and the ones who don’t...don’t? I’ve left dudes for being selfish, aggressive, and callous, and no other reason than that. Their looks hadn’t changed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:37 PM
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So, the popular guys at your school were ugly, unathletic, kind and meek? And the prince in all those girlie fantasies and romance novels — they looked like actual Hapsburg descendants, right? Also, they are poor and powerless, correct? Movies stars in teen movies — hideous, right? Same for tv I guess. Successful people around you were quiet, unassuming and unambitious? You must have grown up on the other side of the looking glass
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:33 PM
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Why do guys think “nice” means “suppressing your personality, obeying, and not having any desires”? That’s not what it means. It just means, “not a selfish, self-centered asshole.” Do you think you are a “selfish, self-centered asshole” now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:20 PM
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It’s seems pretty consistent with reality, no? Men don’t care about a woman’s brain, just her body and what it can do for them. I mean, just look at porn. So respectful! So positive! So caring and affectionate!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:17 PM
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I meant male friends. Barely-moral said that doormats are good and he prefers them, regardless of gender or relationship. Everyone can see why a guy would like a relationship doormat, since men only care about sex and service, but would the same hold true for friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:15 PM
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And what would your wife say if we asked her about the new you? I left dudes in the past for being lazy and unhelpful. I would have ceded some say if they had just given a fuck and gotten off their ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:08 PM
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No man respects anything he nuts in, is what I’ve heard on this very sub. A Kleenex, a sock, a woman, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:03 PM
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Yeah, but you’re not doormats prioritizing harmony and civility, right? That was the original point of contention
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:01 PM
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I thought men were competitive and constantly jockeying for status and position within their social groups; thus, all the crude jokes, insults, and shit talking that women don’t like — while women are always trying to be nice, placating, and harmonious with platitudes and praise that men find boring
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:26 PM
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Servility never inspires respect or interest. Would you really like to be around someone who has no opinions and personality? Who bows and scrapes and bends over backwards to the will of others ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:45 PM
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The pill causes decreased libido in women too, and I believe the effects of the male pill are not permanent. Condoms for everyone it is then ! God botherers everywhere have made abortion harder to access, so abortion in general are unfortunately not used as a solution any more. You can take that up with the Catholic Church, the Mormon Church, Sunni and Shia Islam, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:42 PM
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Sadly, society believes that humans raised in poverty and dysfunction are more expensive in the long run. Since people live 70-80 years, that is probably the correct conclusion. An ounce of prevention, etc etc Cry me a river about the side effects. I have lived with them for 20 years. And unlike penis pills, they weren’t covered by insurance. No woman is going to feel a drop of sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:08 PM
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Their argument was that women controlled fertility because only condoms and vasectomies were available to men; women could lie about being on the pill. Well, they made a pill. I suppose if men weren’t willing to wear condoms, we shouldn’t be surprised they aren’t willing to take a pill either. Unwanted children and wage garnishing it is, then! Sorry guys, but laziness and indifference has consequences! If it was so important to you, we thought you might actually do something about it. On the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 05:59 PM
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That was the main complaint about contraception. “Sperm jacking”, I believe was the term. Men: Women can trick/entrap you into being on the hook for child support for 18 years! Quelle horror! If only there was a way for us to take back control of fertility from deceptive, scheming women that doesn’t decrease sexual pleasure! Also men: This pill makes me feel icky. Don’t want it. Putting up with discomfort for sex is the woman’s job, not mine. Guess I’ll go back to complaining about being powerle…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 05:47 PM
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Women aren’t the ones complaining about being “divorce raped” and tricked/coerced into parenthood by their sexual partners on this sub. There’s so much moaning about having no say in pregnancy, and now, well, you could have had your say...but it was too inconvenient I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:02 AM
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People want guarantees, because we have so many in modern life. Unfortunately, you cannot litigate fidelity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 01:07 AM
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Because I’m straight. And I have cared for elderly people and felt affection for them. Unfortunately, 90 year olds don’t live very long
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 12:35 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/feby10/sex_as_the_be_all_end_all_of_male_needs_in_a/fjn1z4o/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/feby10/sex_as_the_be_all_end_all_of_male_needs_in_a/fjnbsv4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/feby10/sex_as_the_be_all_end_all_of_male_needs_in_a/fjnclic/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 12:33 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/feby10/sex_as_the_be_all_end_all_of_male_needs_in_a/fjnfmq4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/feby10/sex_as_the_be_all_end_all_of_male_needs_in_a/fjnu5s9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/feby10/sex_as_the_be_all_end_all_of_male_needs_in_a/fjn41vx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 12:31 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/f9tbf3/men_dont_really_believe_sex_comes_before/fitnylm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/f9tbf3/men_dont_really_believe_sex_comes_before/fito31w/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/f9tbf3/men_dont_really_believe_sex_comes_before/fiyhqrx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 12:28 AM
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If paying child support and the red pill favorite, “divorce rape”, was such a concern for men, I would expect men to jump at the opportunity to take reproduction into their own hands. The fact that a little discomfort is enough to dissuade them makes me think that perhaps they are protesting a bit too much. I bring up deaths as an indicator because bodies don’t lie. When half of all women murdered are killed by someone who supposedly “loves” them, that is an unfortunately very quantifiable amoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 12:15 AM
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I would still love the guys I loved if they never railed me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 11:06 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/fl94ju/men_do_you_really_believe_that_sexual_frustration/fkx7k3x/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf I can find more if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 11:05 PM
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I didn’t say love and sex are the same thing — I just can feel what I consider love without sex. Whereas men say the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:07 PM
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Yes, I agree with all those! I’m glad that househusbands are increasing in number; there’s a good number in my social circle and they are all doing great. And, strangely, the male pill was close to being released — but was unfortunately discontinued because it had similar effects to the female pill. I guess discomfort is okay for women but not for men. I’m afraid the male domestic violence shelters are probably on the back burner for now, because not enough men get killed by their violent partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:02 PM
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Well, then, can we have life, culture and art without sex? Just platonic, non sexual affection ? I know I could
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:52 PM
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Men here say that if you don’t fuck a man, you don’t love him. So yes, it is all about sex. Love is just that bullshit that comes after, and men are also perfectly fine with sticking their dick in another woman while claiming to “love” their primary partner. There have been discussions about compliments, friendship, and companionship here as well. The conclusion — if you don’t fuck them, companionship, friendship, and compliments are just leading men on. What they really want is sex; and not jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:26 PM
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Men used to powder their faces, wear frilly clothes, makeup and heels, and spend tons of money on elaborate wigs. Just like women of the day. Anything can become acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:21 PM
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Consumption loves gender segregation, because twice as much gets sold. It’s both push (“eww, pink!”) and pull (“oooo, pink!”)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:19 PM
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Is this about “war brides”? I kind of...don’t care? This is a libertarian pulling the classic “okay, I guess the government is good after all, whoops” — and she happens to get misogynistic backlash because of her gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:10 PM
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I know you found a woman with no better options. Which is fine, but I’d say the vast majority of people are a little more, uh, discerning in their tastes. Hence all the hand wringing about “settling” in this sub. If you’re only talking about your not-very-typical situation, it would help if you clarified that in a debate/discussion sub. Or people might, you know, answer more generally and in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:52 PM
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If you want someone to put up with your shit after ejaculation, you might want to care about that. Or find a woman who’s into being treated like dirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:42 PM
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And getting better jobs and higher pay unprompted (please see the CV/resume study, also confirmed by hiring managers; also, the blind audition orchestra study) Or not being expected to be primary caretakers for children/disabled/elderly. That’s the flip side of more emotional freedom — more emotional burden And not getting blamed for being raped or assaulted because they dressed, acted or were present in a certain way (“why did you expect men to not rape or hurt you?”) And having incorrect medic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:36 PM
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Our right to say “no thanks”? Such power! Such oppression of mens! Does that seriously sound reasonable to you?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:09 PM
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And yet, they can extrapolate enough to know that women aren’t crazed hornballs and don’t want the same thing. Men are totally capable of discerning another person’s motives and feelings, if they give a sufficient shit about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 07:57 PM
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As long as we want to fuck less than you (or not at all), yes, we will have an advantage in the fuck market. We also have an advantage of requiring less food than you, is that also a pressing issue? Well, how will we solve this, without bypassing consent? Remember, economic coercion is still coercion! Threats, violence and desperation don’t make women wet! Most importantly, we are perfectly happy to not fuck at all rather than fuck someone we don’t want to. Please, I am all ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 07:47 PM
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People want a guarantee that they won’t get cheated on if they settle — that’s the price for them, and they feel betrayed when it doesn’t work out that way. Nothing is guaranteed, ok, children? Not even a long, happy life! Holding your breath and turning purple won’t change reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 07:32 PM
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Amen. I lived in Asia for a few years, and this is basically what happens. It is heaven
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 07:28 PM
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Well, keep on keeping on, then. Disregarding and minimizing the threat men pose to us is very attractive to women, after all! I suppose this is where you will say something along the lines of, “men will rape and kill you if you’re not properly grateful for us not raping and killing you”. That’s not a really persuasive argument either. Most people, including men, like living in civilized society, with minimal death, violence, and rape. Apocalyptic fantasies are usually a way of escaping the chall…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 07:12 PM
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We don’t think of it as power, just living our own lives. If you want to persist in thinking that, most women, who rearrange our lives and mobility to avoid attracting male attention, will not be sympathetic. To us, it’s like the lion asking sympathy from the lamb, and calling the lamb powerful and cruel because it won’t let the lion eat it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 07:06 PM
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Because that’s what the men here say it is? We fucking believe you, ya know You have heard “men will fuck anything” and “men can’t love without sex”? It ain’t the women claiming that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 06:56 PM
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I would love it if men stopped with that bullshit. I don’t need your attention and freebies that come with strings. It pretty much has stopped for me and I don’t miss it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 06:55 PM
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Not for us. In and of itself The average women could get laid 24/7/365 But the average woman doesn’t do that, because she doesn’t want to
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 03:32 PM
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“In an equal society, men could just ask "hey girl whana get laid", and actually do get laid. This would be an equal society because women woudnt have leverage over men to force them to pretend and what not. Men today are basically dancing monkeys.” Nope. Because when you ask us if we want to get laid, and we say “no” — we aren’t lying. We don’t want to get laid. Because we don’t want it as much, and when we do, it’s usually not worth it. Unless you add some “incentives”, we don’t wanna fuck as …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 03:39 AM
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He just wants to do nothing. Read his other replies in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 03:36 AM
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lol, exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 01:46 AM
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They didn’t mention anything about the man being attractive. How often do you think hot 18-25 year old women are viscerally aroused solely by the appearance of men over 35?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 01:00 AM
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Yes, and raping whoever you wanted in your tribe was not a good strategy at all. Nor would raping other tribes’ women, cuz, you know, costly wars n stuff. There was never an “abundance” of rapeable women, aside from the ones in your own nuclear family
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 11:49 PM
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We’re adults. We like dating/marrying other adults
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 11:38 PM
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If you choose a hot young leech, don’t be surprised when she drains you dry. And not in a good way
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 11:37 PM
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If he denies your point, he doesn’t have to try and be better. What do you think he will choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 11:34 PM
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Anyone is praised for taking care of people — especially if you’re not immediately benefiting from it. Military, fire/police, medical, caregiving, charity work, adoption, it’s all under the umbrella of behavior that is benevolent and beneficial to the whole of society. I feel like...you’re kinda of talking about your specific situation in this scenario here? If you don’t wanna take care of the kid, just don’t, okay? Kids really don’t need to feel unwanted or resented
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 11:30 PM
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Just like some men want pump n dump, some women want attention and stuff. People suck
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:14 PM
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Friends of friends? Coworker acquaintances? Family acquaintances? It is kinda like getting a job....no one wants to risk the true unknown, especially with the safety aspect thrown in Some women are content to “settle” (not date strictly on looks) every time. I am one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 05:58 PM
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We did not date as an initial point of contact? No dating apps, etc. I knew them first, and then they extended their dick to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 05:37 PM
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Why sugar coat it? I have told dudes nicely. Do you think they accepted it and were reasonable about it? No, they acted like I was being deliberately malicious and mean, at the very least. Other reactions included bad-mouthing me, stalking me, sabotaging my attempts to get a boyfriend, and yelling at/threatening me. And that’s just in real life! It’s gets even better over text
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 04:42 PM
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You know, I’m not unsympathetic to guys, what with their unquenchable libidos and emotional constipation. But short of fucking someone I don’t want to, which men claim they don’t want, what am I personally supposed to do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 04:10 PM
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It inconveniences my life greatly, so yes, I think about it a lot. And I have eyes and and a heart, so I feel bad about what happens to the women/girls in my life too. Lots of them are permanently fucked up from it, and I’m the one who gets to deal with it. “I wish gay dudes would hit on me” is a way to disregard and diminish our experiences and unhappiness
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 03:59 PM
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I just said I didn’t like the attention back then either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 03:58 PM
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Don’t move the goalposts. You asked, and I answered —- “ever again”, right? And yes, I would have been happy never being harassed, threatened, stalked, molested, and assaulted. I don’t care about dick-based attention and compliments, cuz I don’t want to fuck the person who makes them. Every relationship I’ve ever had was based on compatibility, not pure lust
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 03:55 PM
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Whether the motivation is internal or external, the fact remains that dick sucking is work and often a slog — and is often treated as a degrading act. If the guy I’m with wasn’t that happy with cunnilingus, I wouldn’t expect it as long as he tried other things. I would not be able to enjoy an activity he found unappealing. It is sad that the reverse is often not true. Fortunately, that has not really happened to me yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 03:50 PM
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Again, if half the men in the world were gay, and almost all of them were stronger and more aggressive than you, would you still feel that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 03:45 PM
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I am over 30 and thus almost invisible. It is awesome to not have to dodge the dicks anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 03:44 PM
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If half of men were gay and almost all of them were stronger and more violent than you....I’m pretty sure you’d change your tune
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 03:43 PM
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Hmmm, no one has challenged you either time. Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 03:42 PM
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Yes, well, I don’t want to fuck you, ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:41 AM
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Don’t use your mom as an excuse. I didn’t know how to cook, clean, handle my finances, or take care of myself when I left for college. I learned, like pretty much everyone else did.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:38 AM
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I don’t think mars can support a billion people. And how on earth are we supposed to transport them all there ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 01:21 AM
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That he doesn’t expect her to be his servant? I’ve seen this more than I’d like to, and man child boyfriends is probably the most common complaint out there ? Why is this even a question?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 08:32 PM
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Yeah, especially if his mom babies and does everything for him. That’s going to be the expectation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 08:24 PM
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Empathy mean “fuck me”. This is not my opinion; it’s what the men here say
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 07:16 PM
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Well, if we do things your way, we’d have to fuck every man we said “hi” to. Maybe dudes could pull back a bit and then we won’t be so standoffish
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 07:15 PM
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I want to see what he expects me to be
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 06:08 PM
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Sure men can get sex anytime they want, in most countries. It’s called “prostitution”. There is also porn, strippers, sugar babies, escorts, camgirls, booth babes and other eye candy, and the entire entertainment industry catering to boner raising and ejaculation. But, no, I guess no one really cares about your dick, right? Even though there are entire gigantic industries devoted to it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 05:10 PM
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With 7 billion people on the planet, is it really that important?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 05:06 PM
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“Just wait until the collapse of society! Then you’ll be sorry for denying us sex!”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 05:04 PM
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I said “nice things” include love. Is that “prostitution”? The guy above said the following: “men can only experience [love] through a relationship that contains sex”, which pretty much supports the guy side of the equation. I agree that it’s a generalization, but it doesn’t have to be interpreted as a bad thing, just clarifying motivations
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:58 PM
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You’re the ones killing and raping us. Why shouldn’t we believe what is actually done to us? “Believe actions, not words”, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:52 PM
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What does “shitty abuse and trauma” mean? Does that mean, “people being afraid/wary of you”? Women aren’t responsible for the threat of male violence. Does it mean, “not being acknowledged/ignored”? Well, women quickly learn that if you are at all nice or friendly or helpful to a guy, he will try and stick his dick in you. Is that our fault? Does it mean, “punished for showing emotion/vulnerability”? Now this one I agree with, as long as it doesn’t spill over into violence or extreme self pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:50 PM
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Of course. Dudes do nice things to get sex Chicks do sex to get nice things “Nice things” can mean love, attention, companionship, affection, entertainment, as well material goods
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:44 PM
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There’s a lot of men complaining about picky women riding the cock carousel with dudes that aren’t them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:41 PM
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There’s lots of handwringing over lonely, suicidal men. Should we just have sex workers fix that problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:40 PM
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Men are the ones who say they have no standards and will fuck anything, so...congratulations, you played yourselves ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:38 PM
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“men can only experience [love] through a relationship that contains sex” Is it trolling if you actually said it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:36 PM
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We know when we want to have sex with a guy from appearance, but his behavior will determine whether we actually go through with it. Brad Pitt could come up to me, and all he would have to say is “I wanna put it in your asshole” and POOF!, attraction and desire to fuck is gone!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:33 PM
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Have you read the responses from men here? They cannot love without sex. I’ve seen at least two comments saying exactly that. You know why most women are polite and distant to men? Cuz if we aren’t, we’re “leading you on”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 03:18 PM
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I’m sure you’re jerking off to plain women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 03:16 PM
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We’re not the ones trying to get some in every conversation/interaction. Don’t guys here claim that sex is a bodily function, and they can easily fuck women they don’t give a shit about? Pump n dump Smash her pussy Ruin her ass Destroy her throat So loving!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 03:15 PM
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That was a lot of words to say that “sex is the only thing that that matters” And guess what, most women know this. That’s why we don’t interact with you, because we don’t want to fuck you, and that’s all, deep down, that matters to men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 03:09 PM
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Exactly. No matter how much they talk about loneliness, it’s all about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 03:08 PM
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We’re physically weaker to begin with, so we get shit on by all the opportunists and cowards who would never want an equal conflict. Hence, all those dudes saying, “So and so would never do/say that!”. Yeah, not to you, cuz you’d punch his face in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:57 PM
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I am already. It’s great Maybe, just maybe, if dudes didn’t pounce on every chick that expresses non sexual attention, we would be more willing to be kind and open. I can’t tell you how many times I have heard dudes rant about women “leading them on” by expressing normal friendliness and human interaction. Message received; if I don’t want to fuck you, I should stay the hell away Also, no one likes attention/kindness that comes with strings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:54 PM
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Well, you can become Mormon; you can’t become Amish. They are both tradcon groups though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 09:19 PM
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If you lie and leave evidence, be prepared to get called out. I don’t know why people on Reddit are so shocked by this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:20 PM
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You, too, can become a Mormon, if manual labor skills, religious financial/community support and a tradcon lifestyle is what you want!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:59 PM
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The vitriol with which a lot of married men talk about their wives, across all income levels, countries and ethnicities, was always shocking to me. Like....this isn’t the 18th century, dudes. No one put a musket to your throat and forced you to marry this “ugly, useless cow” And yes, I believe them! I don’t think they are lying!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:53 PM
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The super alpha, ruthless, ambitious leader types are not normal people. It would make sense that a good chunk of them would have, uh, not normal sexual tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:31 PM
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Really? I guess they are just making up that sexual abuse? And child abuse. And animal abuse I’m sure all those former Amish, of both genders, who complained of rigid thinking and decried the lack of education they grew up with are just, uh, delusional?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:25 PM
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If this pisses you off, you can go find a platform in/aimed towards your nation of choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:24 PM
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I’m pretty sure most overweight people fucking know it. Again, I guess presuming people are self aware is too much, I guess. Prior to Reddit, I had no idea people were so clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:02 PM
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Well, we don’t want to be harsh when it’s not called for, you know? I may not want to fuck you but I wouldn’t be arrogant enough to presume to speak for all other women. We should be crueler and harsher, I guess, but most of us, you know, don’t like doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 03:45 PM
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We don’t mention the specifics of physical appearance because that’s damn rude and also hard to quantify. Most people can’t really change their fundamental facial features, and it’s crass to hate on weight/body type, ok? I hate being interrogated on this stuff. Just don’t be a pushy, rude, selfish asshole, ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:57 AM
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That is the manosphere in a nutshell. “We can treat you differently, because biology” Funny how it always works out in their favor? Some animals are more equal than others, doncha know?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:33 AM
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Then stop calling it a “reproductive drive”. It’s a sex drive, and that’s it. People here seem to think tying it to babies makes it more serious and respected
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 11:52 PM
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R/arethestraightsokay
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 11:28 PM
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Again, you want to fuck because you want babies, is that right? See, no large words! Last I heard, reproduction involved babies
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:34 PM
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Hmm, you ok there?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:32 PM
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Really, you want to fuck because you love babies and want children? Or, the thought of DNA replicating makes you hard? Color me dubious about this logic I frankly don’t care about genetic lineage or any of that garbage. Whether I have 0 descendants or a thousand, I won’t care. Cuz I’ll be dead
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:29 PM
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I’ve been told repeatedly, by men, that they are indeed dogs and won’t be satisfied by one woman unless punished (“men are as faithful as their options” is how it was put to me) They are also made terribly distressed by any sexual rejection at all. They also want young, attractive women They are terrified of being cheated on and will do anything to avoid it They prefer virgins So, since there are roughly equal numbers of men and women, this dream of endless, enthusiastic virgin pussy is impossib…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:25 PM
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They might also be nagged to take care of themselves better and socialize more
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:19 PM
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For you, maybe. Be considerate of others who aren’t so obsessed with dick
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:17 PM
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Easy. Male sexuality can’t be satisfied, so they look for a scapegoat. Well, I concede it could be satisfied if a lot of men died. But I, and I assume most men, don’t want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:04 PM
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“How can I make this about my penis?”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:02 PM
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Is this really an accepted truth on PPD? I doubt it. Men would be whining about it non stop I just see a lot of bitching about abusive Chads and the single mothers they leave behind
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:48 PM
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— You mean the violent porn, which is mostly consumed by women? —- Citation please. This is a pretty strong claim
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:44 PM
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So you agree with the OP — average dudes aren’t happy with average women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:25 PM
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A bit arrogant of you to judge people’s relationships and happiness based on appearance, hmmm? Picky, picky. “That relationship isn’t good enough, I want a better one! I wants it!!!l” O wait, only women can be picky, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:05 PM
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I did not see the word “relationship” in your comment above? All you used were the words “attraction” and “fuck” So you might give me a pass for misunderstanding
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:00 PM
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They won’t. Because then they wouldn’t be able to say anything if we did it too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:58 PM
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Guess so? I was always told I have to bend over and accept misogyny because otherwise civilization will collapse. I have obviously rejected the mindset of my upbringing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:56 PM
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Men feel disgust for male sexuality. What else do you think “post nut clarity” and “coyote ugly” are describing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:55 PM
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LTR = long term relationship You know, like not just a fuck? Even the men here concede a lay and a relationship are not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:51 PM
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Yes, sorry, I will delete my last statement, although I was looking more for studies instead of anecdotes. Thanks for answering
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:37 PM
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“Men have no trouble staying attracted to their AGING wives.” Proof: a study that says that men don’t lose as much attraction within the first 4 years of marriage as women That’s still a rather questionable statement, considering the evidence. Unless you think that women age incredibly fast. We’re used up in 5 years, who knew? And your additional concession is that statement is only true if the wife doesn’t change AT ALL in the meantime. Sounds like kind of an impossible standard to me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:06 PM
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They are invested in denying reality. To all teenage doubters of this comment, please go to Walmart and take a look. Or just outside, even. Ugly and average people fuck ALL THE TIME. Too much, even, according to the sub eugenicists! Or, for Reddit proof, visit r/trashy. It’s fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:56 PM
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TIL men are sexually attracted to livestock, raw meat, holes in objects, dead bodies and trees You should notify r/dontputyourdickinthat
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:45 PM
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A single study of newlyweds, over 1 and 4 years of marriage. Sure doesn’t sound like a comprehensive study of long term marriages to me. It didn’t even mention the number of subjects Of course, all that complaining about “the ball and chain” and being forced to stay with their “fat wives” or else getting “divorce raped” is “not a thing”, right? Anyone else want to chime in? Bueller?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:35 PM
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“Men have no trouble staying attracted to their aging wives.” Any other men on here want to support this ludicrous statement? I want to see who actually will try to defend this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:10 PM
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They know reality, but conceding that point is too much. “We neeeed sex and validation! Way more than women! It’s agony for us to not get it, you picky, picky females! It’s biology and we must be sperm cannons. We can’t help it! Sex is a bodily function and it turns us into mindless performing monkeys dancing to your whims! We’re POWERLESS before the PUSSY!!! .....but of course, we would never ever ever settle for a woman or cheat on her. NEVER. Such self control. Much fidelity”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:05 PM
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Oh please. No one respects a servant. That’s one of the biggest cons women pull on themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:59 PM
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“What’s good for me isn’t good for thee”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:56 PM
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The way men talk about their feelings and desires certainly doesn’t make me want to be a man. It sounds horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:55 PM
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“Women say they have sexual thoughts too. They have no idea. It's the difference between shooting a bullet and throwing it. If they knew what we were really thinking, they'd never stop slapping us.” — Larry Miller
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:53 PM
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Porn and real world violence seems to, uh, refute that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:51 PM
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Call me when at least 4 female incels shoot up public places or ram trucks into a crowd
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:48 PM
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thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:30 AM
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This is awesome! So much evidence!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:58 AM
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Yes thank you Saving this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:57 AM
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I’m saving this and all the other comments for those “but women do it too” whiners
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:56 AM
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Are you for or against such relationships? Spit it out
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:55 AM
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All I’m saying is the effort of abortion =/= putting on a condom Similarly, actually filing/successfully pursuing a false rape accusation is not as easy and quick as dudes make it out to be. Verbally accusing a guy of rape with no legal backing, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 02:10 AM
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If men can’t be arsed to throw on a condom, then why should a woman have to take a bunch of vacation days, drive 8 hours, pay for a hotel for x days, wait for 2 appointments minimum, have an uninsured medical procedure, drive 8 hours back, and then be vilified for said procedure? If you live in the US, this is very very large inconvenience
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 01:29 AM
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I’m sure a lot of women wish they found pussy and tits attractive. I sure do
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 12:37 AM
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I’m pretty sure that most adult women know that men will fuck anything and that it isn’t a compliment
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 12:33 AM
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Sure, there’s a ton of literature involving “scoundrels” who would misrepresent their wealth or background in order to marry a rich female sucker. It was definitely a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 09:58 PM
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We would take more dudes up on casual sex if it were actually worth the risk and effort. Or, as you put it, “walk down to the street and spread em.” So we, like, don’t do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:56 PM
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Just think about how much sex the average woman could have, if she wanted to. Could she find a dozen men to fuck her a day? Could she cheat in every relationship with little effort? Just ask a gay dude how much male lust is out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:55 PM
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As I’ve said before, if men weren’t such dangerous and lousy sex toys, they’d be used as sex toys
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:51 PM
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If men weren’t so dangerous and lousy as sex toys, more men would get used as sex toys
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:50 PM
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Yup, bring on the sex bots, save the women! I think VR is the more likely outcome, however. Cheaper, easier, less stress on the environment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:48 PM
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That’s never been a problem for any society (see: most post-war societies). The reverse, unfortunately, is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:46 PM
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Yes, but not as often. Because most of us aren’t looking for casual, no matter what the pillosphere believes. The female equivalent of “thinking with the little head”? “But I love him!”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:41 PM
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—- a women who can’t get laid within her marriage can literally walk to the nearest public street, spread her legs and get it “That sounds awesome!” — no woman ever
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:33 PM
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Men: Women’s interests are stupid and shallow, and women are boring. Women: K, then don’t to talk to me or interact with me, and don’t whine about being lonely Men: shocked Pikachu face
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 06:50 PM
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Of course. Male moochers have existed forever, just like female ones. Why do you think arranged marriages existed? To prevent male mooching of the dad’s estate
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 06:23 PM
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Blue pill is normalcy. So, whatever normal people do?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 06:22 PM
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Most men would like to continue to fuck 18-25 year olds regardless of their own age. Should older women also not fuck/marry these over-25 men because they are secretly lusting after younger women? Settling: ok for men, but not for women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 05:33 PM
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Have you ever browsed the DeadBedrooms sub? There are a surprising number of women on it. I was surprised, in any case. Porn/porn addiction seems to be a pretty large factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 05:29 PM
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Women are not horny in the way men are
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 05:26 PM
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Men are as faithful as their options. The more attractive, the more options
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 05:26 PM
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Well they are the ones doing it to themselves; women aren’t the ones violenting it up. There may be indifference, but at least you aren’t blamed for inviting the rape/assault/robbery/murder. No one asks “why did he exist there/at that time/wearing that outfit/not fight back more?”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 03:58 AM
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He means that abusive assholes aren’t tied down to one woman their whole lives — now, women can divorce them and they go on to abuse a series of women instead
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:25 PM
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If your “insane little world” is so awesome, why are you one of the most frequent posters on this rather marginal sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:39 PM
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It sure pisses a lot of people off, though, doesn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:25 PM
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Well then your problem is with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 05:20 PM
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“Men have relationships to get sex; women have sex to get relationships” Sure, we can drag a man into a relationship. Doesn’t mean it will be good. Most men would be fine with a relationship that a woman would not, as long as he was getting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:06 PM
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Men don’t like women for their personalities unless we provide sex, so it seems pretty equal to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 07:21 PM
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Do you mean dating only or long term relationships as well? Because I would say yes, we have it easier in dating but not in actual long term relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 07:14 PM
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Women don’t pursue because men are lazy, sorry. If I wanted a man to treat me like a flesh light or pornhub, I would pursue, because almost no man would turn down free poon or attention. If a man can’t be arsed to ask, he’s not gonna give a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:55 PM
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I suppose I was arguing against larger, general attitudes while you are strictly applying them to yourself. Sorry for the misunderstanding
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:08 PM
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“Why does it have to change the world?” It doesn’t, that’s my point. Yet, it’s considered way more worthy and practical, at least by the men here, than the “shallow” stuff women talk about. I’ve never derived any practical benefit from the deep philosophical discussions you love and are proud of, but I have met boyfriends, gotten jobs and volunteer positions, met new friends, and found activity groups, restaurants, travel destinations, classes, stores, products and interests that I otherwise wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 05:41 PM
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Men don’t do nice shit for random women, okay? Unless she’s supermodel hot. Most of us average Annies have watched dudes fawn over hot chicks and been highly amused when they totally deny that they’re doing it for pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 05:10 PM
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I’m talking generally, not personally. Just like you were speaking generally in your initial comment. Tired of men going on and on about being lonely while hating on the very people they are starved for contact from. It’s like guys who use porn and prostitutes and then viciously blame and insult them for providing the very service they asked for
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 03:33 PM
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Men have been complaining about marriage as a prison and shackle FOREVER. The “old ball and chain” right? “Shotgun weddings”, anyone? It’s boring to hear YET AGAIN.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 03:30 PM
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People will always complain. How else did we get sanitation, medicine, modernity? “Death, boredom, and discomfort are awesome!” said no one ever. I very much hope these robots will become a thing, but VR is probably way more likely, and more convenient/less damaging to the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 03:25 PM
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My liver and lungs did not. But I guess those aren’t the important parts of me, at least to you, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 03:12 PM
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No one is forcing you to participate in them, last I heard. Unless you live in India or some other traditional culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 03:08 PM
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I’m pretty sure all of these pearl clutching marriage posts are by tradcons anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 03:07 PM
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So tired of these. Can they be banned? Or can we make a “sellmeonmarriage” or “marriagesucksandnooneshoulddoit” sub and exile these people there?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 03:03 PM
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Alimony is only paid when one partner, regardless of gender, makes significantly more money. This works out to about 10% of divorces in the US. Did you really not know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 03:00 PM
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Then don’t complain when people don’t care or give a shit about you back. Go caress your “things” and get love from them if they are more important
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 11:15 PM
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The belief that the lives and thoughts of people they interact with are less worthy and interesting than abstract concepts and institutions has been brought up repeatedly by men here. While many of these same men complain that men are isolated and lonely. Yet, they see no connection between these two things. And when you talk about politics or economics, does it in fact affect or change politics or economics in the real world? Or just use up some oxygen?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:56 PM
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Wow, how awesome Men will fuck trees, holes in the wall and dead animals so that’s not really an achievement
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:41 PM
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Sure, TRP doesn’t hate women. They just call us childish, infantile creatures incapable of love, responsibility, and selflessness. Sounds very respectful and positive!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:34 PM
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I don’t understand why talking and informing oneself about the people in your own life is boring. Do you not give a shit about them? Why do you interact with them if their lives are so lame to you? How does pontificating about economics, religion and politics affect your life concretely? These people must just love the sound of their own voices a whole lot And men wonder why they are lonely, disconnected, and isolated...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 08:41 PM
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If men’s tastes stay the same, as you said, they would continue to pursue the same 18-25 year olds throughout their lives. Which dating app studies confirm and which is why general creepy old man stereotypes exist If you’re talking about boredom within a marriage, well I’m pretty sure all the dudes complaining about fat lazy wives who don’t put out enough are not exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 08:26 PM
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Well unfortunately for you, society sees the wealth-based practice of polygamy/trading up as more objectionable than the very common phenomenon of settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 08:09 PM
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We all get old and less appealing, you know. Both genders even
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 07:50 PM
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Those girls are being “nice”; i.e., displaying social prowess and acuity. Those conversations are not about physical appearance but skills like social interaction and presentation. Do you really not get that ? Even I know that when dudes brag about sex and banging, it’s not as much about sex itself as it is verbal dexterity, storytelling/entertainment, charisma and image projection
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 06:42 PM
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Of course they are punished. That’s what “looking/acting gay” is all about. This also carries over into any feminine tendency like nurturing, self care and environmentalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 06:35 PM
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We’ve suppressed violence/lust in men pretty well. How else could we live in cities of millions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 06:31 PM
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We’re supposed to die at 35 after being eaten by wolves, contracting measles, or killed in war, after having interacted with a few hundred other humans at most. Most people exist in defiance of biology and seem happy to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 06:23 PM
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I used to drink tequila like water, smoke like a chimney and eat like a pig. I obviously don’t do any of that anymore. Is my life a lie now, or was it a lie then? Or...people can change? We all used to shit in our pants after all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 06:13 PM
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The comment was about effort and why men need to exert more of it. I didn’t say a thing about commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:42 PM
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No believes this “hot dude, plain jane” idea. Chad has pussy thrown at him all the time, and they aren’t average chicks. That’s why dudes here get mad at him for taking all the good ones
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:34 PM
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You guys are thirstier. Ain’t our fault you dumpster dive. Also, calling us sluts for fucking...doesn’t make us want to fuck you more, ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:30 PM
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There is lots of resistance to that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:39 PM
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Lots of dudes here think that women wake up in the morning eager to crush male souls by not fucking them, using them for companionship, and demanding material goods
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:38 PM
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Give him a chance Don’t be shallow Don’t be a bitch Feminazi Don’t be picky You’ll end up alone with cats Don’t be slutty
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 09:57 PM
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Oh ho. Feminazis Man haters Misandrists SJWs How many times do we get asked “why do you hate men?” for objecting to sexist/hateful shit? I don’t hate men. I just want them to leave me alone the way I leave them alone
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 09:54 PM
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Predatory family members for the win!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 09:53 PM
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Sure, but I think his point was that the deluge of dicks is pretty overwhelming. Does it really matter if the ratio is 4:1 or twice that? Your wang is getting drowned out, and that ain’t women’s fault
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 09:50 PM
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Ok well thank you for arguing in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 09:47 PM
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Divorcing for a hotter product or adding another wife doesn’t require cheating. Your comment also asserted that men don’t lose attraction. That’s a pretty bold and sweeping statement
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 09:08 PM
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I invite you, like I would most men, to make an average female profile and see what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 09:07 PM
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“Because men maintain attraction to wifey.He wants to fuck other women but as long as he doesn't cheat everything is fine.” You did
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 08:49 PM
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FDS is not the real world. It’s a basic course in how not to be a desperate doormat for women who don’t know how to deal with being alone. Lots of women know this already
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 08:27 PM
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So, second wives, trophy wives, mistresses and side chicks are a myth? All infidelity is done by women, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 08:26 PM
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So you don’t believe there are more men than women on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 08:25 PM
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No, you just don’t care about entitled men because you don’t wanna fuck em. This is understandable, but only half the equation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 06:54 PM
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It is a lot like the red pill, I must admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 05:46 PM
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Nope. I believe men put up barriers against women doing such jobs through physical, sociological and sexual threats that they wouldn’t direct at fellow men. You know — sexism ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 05:04 PM
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Ahahaha, does he really believe that? He must also believe that women can smell high quality sperm or something
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 04:04 PM
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I’d be a preachers wife. Aaaaa!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:59 PM
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I think they have to find it hard. Otherwise, how would they be motivated to do anything if they had to take responsibility for it? Same thing for male optimism. They have to be optimistic or they would never want to try It’s annoying and dangerous for women, but not surprising
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:43 PM
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No, FDS was meant to help “pickmeshas” identify and combat their desperate and doormat behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:37 PM
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The woman you are describing comprises a small minority of abusive relationships. Seriously. I used to think like you did, and then I started reading the subs here. Financial dependence and children were prevalent/in the majority, and of the remainder, the following characteristics popped up again and again, to the point where you could play “Abusive relationship bingo” Mental illness (by far the largest) Abusive childhood Age gap/grooming Physical disability The women in these relationships are…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:17 PM
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There you guys go again, dismissing our concerns. Way to convince me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:11 PM
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I’m tired of hearing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:09 PM
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Rape and assault is a pretty big problem in the current military, so much so that I would never recommend a women joining. And that’s with only 15% women. What would happen with a 50-50 split in the lower ranks, in wartime, with a large majority of commanding officers being male? “Serve your country and get raped by your comrades, ladies!” Doesn’t that sound like a great deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:08 PM
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Is it more important to have an experimental draft population riven with rapes, assaults and resentments, or an effective military system? What would be better for a modern country in the long run?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 02:58 PM
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Yes, if you ever read about women who try to get into these industries it’s no wonder there aren’t any there. Sorry we don’t wanna get raped n murdered for trying to work a dangerous job
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 02:55 PM
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Just keep giving, women! So we don’t rape n murder!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 05:58 PM
3

But they also claim the red pill is amoral and only about individual sexual gratification! Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 05:56 PM
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I really think the draft issue is telling. There’s a lot of whining about how it’s unfair that only one gender is drafted, and then in the same breath many of these people will then bitch about what horrible soldiers women would be. Pick a lane, assholes!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 04:05 PM
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This post should be removed. You need to go to dating or datingadvice You are misleading people into thinking you want broader discussion. It’s obvious from your responses that you just want to talk about your individual experience with a single person
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 12:06 AM
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Not interested in being argued with or insulted
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 10:06 PM
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I wasn’t attracted at first, but they acted like my presence was a positive thing so I hung around. I became emotionally and then physically attached over time and proximity. You know, the way red pillers claim never happens. Unfortunately, just like being an orbiter never works for nice guys, being a nice girl didn’t inspire desire in these dudes either. They were happy to take what I offered without putting any effort in themselves. It was a good lesson for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 10:05 PM
1

We do care. It’s called polygamy/bigamy is illegal, at least in non-Muslim countries
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 09:57 PM
2

Polygamy is way more disruptive for society than hypergamy, I mean serial monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 09:30 PM
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These weren’t hookups. They were relationships or long term flirtations. Sometimes people can grow on you. Like lichens
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 09:00 PM
1

So basically any man who can attract a woman is an alpha? The term is practically meaningless then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 08:52 PM
1

Sure. Women can get tons of sex and lewd attention they don’t want. Whoopeeee, awesome I am obvs a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 04:46 PM
1

You can be poor but not trashy. There is a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 04:46 PM
2

No woman here, that’s for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 04:45 PM
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The real problem is that men treat attraction like a math problem or a video game. And it’s not like that at all, sadly. I’ve woken up from the lust fog and been gobsmacked more than once, because they were not my type and not attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 04:44 PM
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Please. The whining around here about hypergamy is omnipresent. To women, hypergamy just means we don’t have to stay with the selfish loser we had to marry at 20 any more, like in the 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 04:38 PM
2

Don’t play games if you don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 04:35 PM
9

Oh, here comes the “it’s just a joke” line. So mature. Words mean nothing! I shouldn’t be held responsible for anything I say or do! Then don’t foam at the mouth when women talk about men being pigs, men only want one thing, men are children, men are dangerous, men are useless, etc. Its just words, right? It doesn’t affect anyone in real life!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 03:33 PM
3

It’s not the number, it’s the behavior and attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 03:04 PM
8

Luckily, now you know the truth and don’t have to put up the facade of being a selfless, caring, decent person any longer! Win-win!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 03:03 PM
7

O really? “Women can’t love” (yes, like those selfless men who only look at her “heart” and don’t care about her appearance AT ALL). “Women, the oldest teenager in the house”. Message: women are different and immoral compared to you, you caring, unselfish man, so it’s okay to treat them on a different moral scale
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 03:01 PM
1

Which do you think is easier for women to get from dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 12:15 AM
1

Yes, Reddit still has the reputation of a haven for edgy nerds who prefer screens to people I come here to feel better about my antisocial, nerd tendencies
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 04:44 PM
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Reddit normal is not real world normal
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 03:30 AM
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I learned all I needed to know about what men think of me from porn and “guy/locker room” talk. We are listening, ya know. I find it more honest than all the salesman, romantic bs we are fed to get sex out of us
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 09:48 PM
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My pussy and tits are who I truly am? News to me; I thought my personality and cognition was in my brain. I should tell the guys who holler at me on the street that they need anatomy lessons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 09:35 PM
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Pumping and dumping Smash her pussy Use her face Destroy her ass This is common sex terminology So uplifting, intimate and caring!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 09:32 PM
2

Yup, I saw that comment too. I think it’s accurate. Look at porn, ffs, is that full of affection and caring ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 09:26 PM
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I am confused by your definition of “respect”, as well as your obsession with it. I don’t think that word means what you think it does
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 04:05 AM
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Sure, as long as he pulls his own weight around the house and so on
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 03:51 AM
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I certainly don’t believe that. However, I have two exceptions to not blaming a dude for wanting more and leaving because he can’t get it: You wanted to get with me from the beginning and used friendship as a tool. If you developed feelings organically, no harm no foul Or You developed feelings and then blame me for inciting them in you and not reciprocating
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 11:05 PM
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Would you respect someone who acted depressed and suicidal? Or someone who was jobless and lazy? There’s tons of women who stay with men they don’t respect, either due to low self esteem/abuse or because they like having someone sad and dependent on them. Peruse the following subs, if you will: relationships relationshipadvice JustNoSo CPTSD NarcissisticAbuse They are filled with people who either love or can’t bring themselves to end relationships with losers. Add them all together and you get …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 10:37 PM
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There’s lots of women who get off on mommying and fixing broken and immature men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 10:05 PM
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Well, you know, people can compromise. I think most people in healthy relationships, platonic and non-platonic, are capable of adjusting their expectations and such if they value the connection sufficiently. I have male friends and I adjust my interactions with them, as I suspect they do with me. I don’t talk about fashion with them, and they don’t ogle women in front of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:49 PM
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Men have requested it from me; I did say “both genders” above. How would you know what men are asking/doing to women if you aren’t a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:46 PM
1

This is not a male only affliction
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:37 PM
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It’s not, but if you’re not having sex at some point, you’re just roommates How much sex is enough is the point of contention and will vary depending on the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:36 PM
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Porn is not exactly a goldmine of expressions of affection and caring. I believe that drives a lot of it, from both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:32 PM
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I mean, do you not want to share your lives with your friends? I don’t know why emotional openness with friends is bad, but you just said women shouldn’t do that with platonic male friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:30 PM
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“emotionally open” = the way women treat their friends. You know, “hey, how are you, how are the people in your life, what have you been doing?” If you want women to grunt, scratch, make offensive jokes, trade insults, and not talk to you like men, you should let them know
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:26 PM
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Not really. Attraction can be and is often one sided. The second paragraph seems to imply that it’s the woman’s fault for treating you cordially, thereby causing attraction from you, I.e., we should not be friends/friendly to men we don’t want to fuck. If I am wrong, please correct me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:11 PM
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Should we just remove ourselves from your lives either way if we would never sleep with you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:47 PM
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Your first paragraph implies that it’s not the woman’s fault, but your second one does. So which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:45 PM
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Well, according to some guys here, ALL women want to be abused. Kinky/abusive people have incentive to inflate numbers, vanilla people to minimize. It’s all in the motivation. That would add to the obfuscation of the truth. I don’t even know what the “official” numbers of people who claim to be into physically violent sex is. Anyone got em?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:39 PM
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I find this an interesting topic, but sadly I believe there is little chance we can get an accurate idea of just what proportion of the female population is into rough sex/physical abuse during sex. It’s too touchy, even with anonymity. Personally, any dude that tries to choke or slap me during sex (something I would never ask for) is getting a knee to the balls. That’s assault to me, and to the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:35 PM
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Yes, there’s already concept of it around but red pill had to pretend that it’s novel
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 05:59 PM
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Well, here we go back to this belief of yours that you can force women to want men. It’s hard to see the male situation as oppression when that’s your solution. Men are free to reject or accept the way the world works and also to think of their own solutions, just like women. They are free to build relationships with other people, including other men, just like women. They can troll for or buy sex, just like women. If they really want children, they can adopt or use a surrogate, just like women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:34 PM
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It is. Discussions always devolve to, “hey women, we can kill and rape you, so give up more pussy, k?” over here. It’s similar to the “hey liberals, we have all the guns, ya know?” comments you sometimes see
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 03:48 PM
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You’re claiming that men are looking to settle down with one partner between the ages of 14-22. I say that typical social dynamics and behaviors of that age group do not seem to support that assertion in the US. But, as you have pointed out, this is not true in other parts of the world
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 03:20 AM
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Are frats not a thing? Sports teams? There was an ungodly amount of fucking going on in high school and college among friend groups as far as I remember. Maybe I’m too old
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 01:06 AM
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Again, like with anything else, respect and caring trumps selfishness and disrespect Porn use? Mental illness? Racial preferences? It’s all the same answer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:36 PM
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Do people really think dudes don’t do the same thing? “Playing the field” and “sowing the wild oats” are a myth, eh? Are men dying to get married or into LTRs in high school and college? Cuz I sure don’t see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:29 PM
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Do you mean “incels”? How are nice guys treated horribly? If you mean, “ignored” that’s different? I’m ignored by society — I love it!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:09 PM
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Ok then. Resentment and revenge don’t sound like happy strategies, though. Why not try a clean slate and take life going forward?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 09:20 PM
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They just want a guarantee they won’t get hurt No one gets that, not even women Similar to how men want a formula/cheat code for sex —> x + 7y - 6 = pussy! Why doesn’t it work!? Why???!!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 09:17 PM
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It’s also why “nice” guys aren’t actually any better than Chad. They are often full of bitterness, resentment and revenge fantasies. Not fun to be around
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 09:14 PM
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So you’re just bitter because you can’t/didn’t sleep around and you wanted to. That sounds like a you problem, not a world problem. Perhaps some therapy and success in other areas will help ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 09:11 PM
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Do you mean the friend zone? If not, wouldn’t that later relationship include sex? So what’s the problem — you had fun, she had fun; now it’s time to get serious. I have cut down a lot on my drinking, drugging and stupid shit because I got older, it’s kind of normal? Were you looking to get married or into LTR when you were in high school/college? If not, why condemn girls for doing the same thing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 09:03 PM
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That’s the point; that’s your and most men’s view. Women tend to believe/value the opposite. So we don’t see the failure to get laid as a terrible thing, nor do we see success in getting sex as a great and desirable achievement
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 08:48 PM
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So? You can get platonic relationships so easily! I’m so jealous! Do you feel sorry for me that I can’t get the friendships I want? I bet you don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:55 PM
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I already told you a solution, or rather, the continuation of current trends. There’s not much else if we want to continue to have sexual/personal autonomy — which, I remind you, most present-day humans seem to like — and enjoy our unprecedented material prosperity. Why is what I described objectionable? Considering the fundamental antagonism of male/female drives, I’m sure a good number of people would prefer lives more or less free of the opposite sex, to be replaced by media driven pleasure, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:17 AM
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There’s some leeway/grace period in a relationship as opposed to a ONS. But if I’m not getting sexual pleasure out of a sexual relationship, then why am I doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 12:27 AM
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All I know is that the lack of orgasm and general selfishness/ineptitude makes casual sex not worth it for me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 12:12 AM
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Right, because sexual terminology always portrays sex as something women win or extract from unwilling men, right? And all that porn that women watch, all that groping and catcalling they do? Male models, cam boys, porn stars, strippers are constantly ogled and lusted over openly by chicks, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 10:51 PM
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Exactly. I don’t like porn, but I have watched it. It told me everything I need to know about men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 10:47 PM
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It appears to be the only thing they listen to their moms about. How convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 10:46 PM
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They pay attention to the stuff they like and ignore that stuff they don’t. This is human nature. Laziness rules all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 10:45 PM
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Women compete too, so it’s not a male-only cross to bear. The cosmetic, fashion and social media industries prove it. And as many people have pointed out, you want sexual communism. Nobody, not even a majority of incels, want to be assigned a grudging mate/government girlfriend. That goes for men and women, by the way. So, this system you are selling, no one’s buying
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 10:29 PM
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When I no longer need to carry a weapon for my protection from men, no longer need to stay at home at night because of men, no longer need to stifle my personality and mobility because of men, no longer have to hear about all the rape, murder and mayhem caused by men, then I might have some sympathy. When men cease to be the greatest physical threat to women’s lives and bodily integrity, then we might sympathize with them. As it is, it sure seems like the jailer is asking for sympathy from the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 07:01 PM
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This insistence that women are being malicious is probably the worst part of incel/mgtow philosophy. No, women just want to be free of male violence and lust; I seriously hope you don’t believe that we wake up every morning cackling at the prospect of hurting men or something. Who has the energy for that? Get over yourselves. Personally, the trends currently in place seem fine to me — fewer relationships, more distractions (VR and sexbots will help) and fewer children. Earth is overrun by humans…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 05:01 PM
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Asia is a perfect example of wealthy, modern societies that restrict women’s choices without religion. Guess what: it doesn’t make sex or relationships any more palatable to women, or even men for that matter. There are a lot of incels in Japan, Korea, China, Singapore, etc., almost certainly more than in Europe and the US by relative population. Their suicide rates are definitely worse than the US/Europe. I find it weird that you insist that restricting freedom will engender a sort of Stockholm…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 06:46 PM
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Because arguing against reality is restrictive and difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 06:41 PM
1

Good companionship plus decent sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 06:39 PM
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If there was no free will we would still be crouched around fires in caves, dying of dysentery or warfare at age 35
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 06:38 PM
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Wow. This is very educational for me, and not in a good way. Every time I start to think this place is Reddit normal I get proved wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 01:59 AM
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Limiting women’s choices has not made men more desirable —> please see Asia for the result of that irl And you will constantly have to monitor yer womenfolk lest they get ideas. Sounds like an exhausting waste of energy and resources
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:38 AM
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Shit rolls downhill, doncha know?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:36 PM
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90% of these posts can be reasonably answered with “people are diverse and not everyone likes the same things”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 05:05 PM
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Oh ho ho, a new version of “you need to fuck me because biology” Tell me, do you even care if the woman wants to sleep with you, or are her feelings/enjoyment/pleasure irrelevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 05:11 AM
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I have left dudes for being selfish and lazy. In fact, come to think of it, that’s the only reason I’ve ever left. Not marriage material if I have to be your mommy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 08:40 PM
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That’s right, we can’t tell from outside. What I have done is read all those r/relationships posts where the woman is 10 years younger and asking Reddit strangers if it’s normal for her boyfriend to forbid her from talking to men, pressure her for sex she doesn’t want, and belittle her job, education and interests. She’s asking, of course, because it’s her first serious relationship and she doesn’t know any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 08:32 PM
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Hypergamy just means “she can leave your unsatisfying ass”. Not surprising that dudes don’t like that. You might actually have to give a shit and wash a dish once in a while!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 08:13 PM
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The objectionable aspect of age gap relationships is the older partner using the younger one’s ignorance to keep them dependent and to normalize their own desires as pre-eminent. This is also not exclusive to one gender or sexual orientation. I can’t believe you don’t understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 08:10 PM
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It’s not the perving that’s objectionable, it’s the selfishness
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 07:32 PM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 07:08 PM
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Not true. Attraction for women is just a complex stew of looks/personality/circumstances/etc. You might let something go in exchange for another characteristic Dudes are just frustrated that things aren’t predictable and formulaic. I sympathize, but I have no clue how it could be changed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 06:42 PM
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Men Is More Thirsty Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 06:41 PM
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It’s not the desire, that’s annoying, it’s the hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 06:40 PM
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Who wouldnt want a mommy wife? I’m a woman and I want one! Cook, clean, manage my relationships, prioritize my mental and physical health, research options and opportunities, maximize my output, upgrade my living space, the list goes on and on...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 06:36 PM
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I invite every dude who complains about standards to make a profile in any platform and experience the dick tsunami for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 07:51 PM
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I have never seen that, other than swapping tips on women and game. Nothing about how to make friends, network, take care of themselves mentally, where to socialize — it all “field reports” and “help me with this chick”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 07:50 PM
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Isn’t the implication of gold digging that she doesn’t have to work anymore, i.e., being taken care of? Who can support an expensive trophy wife on a slightly above average salary ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 07:46 PM
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I don’t get this “special” concept; if you don’t wanna be around me, then don’t be around me, dude
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 07:44 PM
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Between the two, polygyny has definitely driven more societal instability and conflict. Hoarding women is never a good idea, except in the aftermath of mass male death
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 12:06 AM
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Hypocrisy, duh. You personally are not, but don’t pretend lots of dudes are. That’s the whole Madonna/whore dichotomy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:56 PM
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It’s the fastest way to get used for mediocre/bad sex by someone who doesn’t give a single shit about you. Sounds awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:48 PM
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Because biological determinism, of course. Can’t argue with nature, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:42 PM
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Sorry, deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:38 PM
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More special than a pump and dump. Is that unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 05:59 PM
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We don’t and people are diverse and contain multitudes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 01:48 AM
2

Yes, we would all like no poverty. Who argued otherwise; the criticism was that it was unrealistic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 12:51 AM
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Oh, come on, PPD sees hypergamy/sexual autonomy as the ultimate injustice; they complain about it constantly. Are you arguing in good faith or are you new here?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 12:50 AM
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The shire was diverse? Were humans, dwarves, orcs, trolls, and elves living there? I thought one of the criticisms of LOTR is that its societies were highly homogenous and segregated — i.e., no poverty and no mixing of the races Also, magic n stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 12:41 AM
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Whew, thank goodness. But, you know, we did already have isolated, agrarian societies ruled by a distant government. That was called...the Middle Ages. Please also note the word “fantasy”, as both the genre of literature and in the critique of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 12:36 AM
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Yes, but women with their standards are the unreasonable ones, ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 12:34 AM
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And men really think that’s less socially destabilizing than serial monogamy? History would tend to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 12:04 AM
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Ah, you are trolling, hmm? Shame on me for taking you in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 12:03 AM
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Sure they are. “She got old and fat, so I traded up”, I.e., trophy wives, second wives and mistresses. That’s a superior partner, just by male standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 11:35 PM
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Ok, so, what is an ideal society to you? Do you just want a puritan modern society? Arranged marriages? Repression has a price, you know
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 11:33 PM
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They have birth control, which was a big part of the sexual revolution, and women can own property, seek higher education, and work. Social mobility means they aren’t marrying men out of necessity, or tied to the first person they have sex with I also wouldn’t think of ‘revolutionary China’ as traditional, by definition. Chinese society is one of the most ruthlessly pragmatic and materialistic, so I don’t know why you are pointing to them as some sort of kinder, gentler society. Not to mention t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 11:04 PM
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Pre sexual revolution society was characterized by lack of choices, opportunity and mobility, and social repression. That is why traditional societies will always lose, unless propped up by oil
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 10:59 PM
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They do get paid for their time and can choose where and how they work Let us also consider that men: Don’t practice self care, including medical and psychological, as much as women Engage in riskier behavior, such as reckless driving, drinking and drugging, and dumb stunts, way more than women Voluntarily isolate themselves socially more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 08:45 PM
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I’m pretty sure most people would prefer a single parent that loves them to an indifferent system environment. Why don’t you ask some former group home residents?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 08:17 PM
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Again, where are these thousands and thousands (millions?) of functional adoptive parents going to come from? Lots of countries can’t even incentivize people to have their own biological kids Are people going to be forced to adopt? I don’t believe offering money will make people into good parents — just greedy ones
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 08:08 PM
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That would only be worth it if the vast majority of those kids turn out to be functional and productive members of society. The track record so far does not support this result
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 08:02 PM
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They seem fine and prosperous. Fewer children is also better in my opinion. I will call out your veiled (and not so veiled; good thing you deleted your comment about “taking out everyone in a blaze of glory”, eh?) threats and revenge fantasies when you make them. You seem to think frustration and loneliness justifies psychopathy, but I assure you that excuse doesn’t fly in normal society. Just ask the incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 07:27 PM
2

U gonna shoot up a school, bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 04:55 PM
1

Literal slaves, eh? Like being bought and sold for money, being whipped and beaten by their owners, worked to death without compensation, etc? I would love you to put this statement to non-white redditors and see how that does
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 04:48 PM
2

They are obsessed here!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 04:28 PM
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Also, “I need sex to feel love” BUT “I can easily separate sex and love”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 04:26 PM
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Hypergamy is just a fancy way of saying “women can end a relationship”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 03:15 PM
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I don’t think you understand just how many kids you are talking about. And how would you incentivize the mass adoption of potentially unwilling children? I don’t think monetizing parenthood is going to attract selfless and functional adoptive parents — just look at the current US foster system for how well that works out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 11:02 PM
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I’ve been to places with no social welfare They are not nice places You can go live there if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 08:15 PM
3

Pump n dump is a thing that exists. I don’t think the whole situation is great, but it is what it is. People suck; men want sex; women want commitment; life is unfair
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 05:29 PM
1

You go on telling yourself that if it makes you feel better
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 04:43 PM
2

Flaky people exist; film at eleven. Divorce is legal, so I fail to see why this is a problem. Whaddaya want to do, stone slutty people like we did in the old days ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 04:35 PM
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The OP specifically referenced physical violence so I don’t think I was wrong to address it. Modern society has outsourced violence and disagreements to the police and court system, as impartial arbiters. It has been effective at preventing feuds and community-based conflict. That is why we don’t take it into our own hands anymore. And society also doesn’t dole out sex based on a propensity for conflict any longer. You’re free to move to a war zone or slum if you require that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 04:30 PM
2

The poor will always be the majority of single parents; eliminate poverty and most will go away
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 04:14 PM
1

Lots of average guys are fine being with average women. It’s the ones who want to shoot for the moon who will be unsatisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 04:10 PM
1

There’s more people in the world. Violence must be repressed to make living in concentrations of millions feasible. Most people have bought into this logic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 04:09 PM
1

You misspelled “unappealing”. Hooking up has no use.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 04:07 PM
0

American culture is different. I think it’s the increased industrialization/modernization after ww2 and spurred by the Cold War — we were wealthier and not rebuilding a shattered continent, so more women were out there, and the dating procedure became fixed. Plus, prohibition created the cocktail/bar culture
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 04:02 PM
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As long as men put up the facade of commitment when they really just want a lay, women will want compensation/mitigation for that risk
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 03:58 PM
4

Sometimes it seems reasonable here, but then there will be posts like this that really brings home the weirdness. Thankfully. Can you imagine if this was the norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 05:46 AM
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No, they won’t improve Just tune out and wait for sex robots, I think. Seems to be the current trend started by video games and social media
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 05:43 AM
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PPD is definitely not the real world. Most people in my world are fine. I don’t know anyone who is catastrophically single. Childless, maybe, but not single, or at least not for very long.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 05:35 AM
1

They are not a threat. Is that what a “real” man is?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 05:33 AM
1

Every other week I see a post here along the lines of “women, what do you have to offer us besides pussy?”, so evidently men see us as tools also. Orgasm tools
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 05:29 AM
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The OP basically stated that “a man can never be too tall or have a jaw that is too strong”. Or be “too dominant”, whatever the hell that means. Do you think that a chick with boobs the size of bean bag chairs would be sexay?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 12:01 AM
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Gigantism is not sexy. Acromegaly is also not very sexy. Both come with terrible health effects. So I disagree. I believe even a woman can have boobs that are “too big”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 11:47 PM
1

How old are you? That is relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 10:58 PM
1

Well, the dudes here certainly believe it. They even had a couple of posts vociferously arguing such a few months ago. They state that they would lie down and die if it weren’t for sex with hawt chicks as a goad. It’s sad, but who am I to call them liars?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:46 PM
2

Half of the women murdered in the uk are killed by the men that supposedly “love” them. This trend continues through most of humanity. Are half of all murdered men killed by women they are in relationships with ? Wanna play the oppression olympics? Hint: women are gonna win that one because men have an interest in controlling us and limiting our autonomy because they want to use our bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 05:34 PM
2

So you wouldn’t date yourself, ya hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 05:26 PM
3

I hate the height issue. Hate it hate it hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 07:36 PM
1

Well, luckily I’m not pregnant, so I don’t have to worry about women ripping babies out of my stomach. Do you even hear how ridiculous that sounds ? Is that your stunning argument about how women are dangerous?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 02:49 PM
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People don’t follow reproductive strategies, ya nerds. They follow their genitals and feelings; not cold, logical genetic equations
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:47 AM
1

I don’t get why men can’t grasp that women get aroused by physical features, exactly like men do. Doesn’t “oh yeah, I wanna fuck the shit out of his nicenesss!” sound absurd?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:19 AM
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No, they all talk about how women should be more grateful because of all those reasons. Are you new here? Lurk around and all those scenarios will come up again and again
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:15 AM
1

Blue pill is “the norm” It’s not an ideology, simply the thing that red pill is “against”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:06 AM
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It’s a revenge fantasy. Other male revenge fantasies: Sexbots/VR The end of civilized society
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:04 AM
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In other words, men sowing their wild oats is ok but women riding the cock carousel is not ok — because biology. Is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:01 AM
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I would be fine dying alone if the options aren’t good. And I think a good number of women feel the same
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 10:35 PM
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That‘s what you look for in a ONS/casual sex partner that you will never see again ? What if this artsy person was fat? Had small tits/no ass? Had an ugly face?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 10:31 PM
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Male thirst isn’t my fault. I don’t get pissed that you’d rather have a stable of sex robot maids then give a shit about a partners’ needs or orgasm. Have at it! Just don’t make it illegal for us to refuse that awesome deal and we cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 10:13 PM
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Of course they are. Whenever a dude makes a female profile as an “experiment”, or walks behind their girlfriend on the street, they are always shocked (shocked!) at the tsunami of thirst directed at them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 10:04 PM
3

Please, list some NON-appearance based qualities in a woman that make your dick hard
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:51 PM
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It’s because they want guarantees. No one has that, but I guess these dudes want to be the exception That’s why no one feels sorry for them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:42 PM
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Yeah, so those 80% of men are fighting over 15% of women at best. Why are they surprised it’s hard and usually not successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:41 PM
3

It’s only bad if both people are unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:30 PM
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Cake, eat it too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:17 PM
3

You guys are the ones constantly “no true Scotsman”-ing yourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 08:17 PM
3

They mean, “stop whining, ya housebound loser”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 08:15 PM
2

That’s why we will have caretaker robots. Even if you have a dozen kids, you can still end up warehoused in a nursing home. Family doesn’t guarantee shit. They are as likely to be a source of stress and unhappiness as the reverse The only thing that’s guaranteed to support you is money
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 08:05 PM
2

So homo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 08:04 PM
4

Sure you do. Women are super desperate for relationships “Where are all da gude men, hurr durr?” You just have to put in the minimum once they’re hooked. Again, I concede the “getting them hooked” is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 07:57 PM
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I don’t worry about women. You can deny it all you want, but most women spend a lot of our day keeping ourselves safe from men. But keep telling us we’re dumb to do so. It’s great that you can show us your contempt for our safety right away
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 07:13 PM
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Of course it is. But as women have stated over and over, we give an order of magnitude less than men about SEX. You’re mad we don’t want something we don’t want. Sorry gents, your dick is not a draw. Luckily, in the relationship market, men have a total advantage. Go read all the dear Abby/advice columns and relationship subs to see it! You can get away with all sorts of shit in relationships and the women will just put up with it, and even defend your ass. You just have to find that one sucker.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 06:12 PM
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I was talking about strangers. I choose to interact with people in my relationships, I don’t have a choice with strangers. That’s the point, dude I didn’t think it was that hard to grasp, but I guess not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 06:07 PM
2

Lesbians are attacking/hassling random women on the street? Lesbians are pulling up to teen girls on the street and threatening them with violence if they don’t get in the van? Lesbians are killing and raping strangers? Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 06:01 PM
5

Money Doesn’t Make Women Horny Your Face And Body Does (Or doesn’t)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 03:54 AM
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No, it’s cuz we have more distractions and less money
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 11:39 PM
8

If anyone would know who is more evil it would be them, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 11:29 PM
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Go into a police station. Ask them who’s worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 11:13 PM
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No one is saying otherwise. But you want to fuck that girl’s pussy, not her character. And we want to fuck that guy because he has abs, not because he’s got an MD. I mean, you have seen the covers of romance novels, aka porn for women, right? Does the guy on the cover look like Fabio or Bill Gates?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 10:57 PM
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I appreciate the thoughtful answer, but my point is that material goods and social status inspire a sort of transactional affection, not lust. Men don’t get turned on by maternal skills, no matter how practical they are for a marriage. And women don’t get wet for piles of money, no matter how necessary they are for building a family. We are attracted to body parts and facial features. And that’s what reluctantlyred said men are mad about — the fact that resources don’t equal vagina tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 10:45 PM
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So —- we’re all unhappy together! Yay!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 09:15 PM
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Men cheat too, yanno. There’s tons of dumb, loyal, loving wives whose husbands go off and bang cocktail waitresses and hookers. Just look in the news. But those men are excused because “she got fat and mommy-like, lol” and “men are biologically polygamous”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 09:10 PM
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Money or Status =/= Looks I can understand this. Why can’t dudes? Do you want to fuck a pile of cash or a sports car? Do the words “business class seating” or “VIP section” make your dick hard? So why would that be true for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 09:01 PM
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Oop, everything got deleted. Serves me right for responding too early
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:40 PM
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Then you guys need a better term. The “-gamy” suffix means “marriage/relationships” The words “attraction/desire” seems to fit, but I guess it isn’t “cool” enough to fit into your super secret language
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:37 PM
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If we hated each other as much as this sub makes out, society wouldn’t function. I like coming here to watch the clueless slug it out
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:32 PM
2

Hypergamy just means “she left your lazy, useless ass”. What woman would disagree with that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:27 PM
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Yah. Go read posts on r/relationships. It’s sad. “My bf doesn’t brush his teeth. Is this normal?”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:26 PM
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I know that, duh; that’s why it’s a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:04 PM
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I’m an adult. If I don’t respect my own brain, skills, and rights, why should anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:58 PM
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Then it is doubly sad that they can’t muster a few calories to consider how their actions are viewed If sex means so much to them you would think they would give a shit, but nooooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:52 PM
2

Well thank you for explaining
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:39 PM
8

This is so low effort. Please tell me you’re trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:57 AM
1

The bathtub!? So uncomfortable and dangerous! I mean, once in a while is fine. But fetishes are, like, a regular thing, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:16 AM
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Nope. Why force someone to do something they don’t want, even as role play? Go be a beast or whatever if that’s your dream? In all fairness, women have some fantasies that are equally baffling to me. Play hard to get! Have men fight over you!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:13 AM
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Yeah, it seems like the minimum (wash your body/ass, be a functional adult, put down the controller once in a while, plan/go out occasionally, give a shit about my orgasm) is actually quite a tall order.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:10 AM
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Again, so much work! Why? That’s a huge amount of physical effort for me; violence is not my forte! I wanna come home, eat dinner with a glass of wine and watch tv, man. Not have an all night slap and scream fest!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:06 AM
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No, it’s that men will fucking leave them alone. That’s my fantasy, at any rate. I’d love to be able to walk down a street alone and not get hassled for having a vag. If you ain’t fuckin’ with me I have no problem with your existence. Oh wait! I know what my personal revenge fantasy would be! I would wake up tomorrow....and half of humanity would be gay. That would be awesome! In fact, that’s not even revenge — the world would definitely be a better place!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:46 AM
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Nope, but I am lazy...so it wouldn’t be my most favorite thing to do. All that cleanup and upper body exertion, gods! Same goes for bdsm. So much money, time and cardio/lifting. It’s like having another gym to go to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:41 AM
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Yes, yes, we aaaaaallll know about male revenge fantasies — “the wall”, “going your own way”, “sex bots”, “regressing to anarchy and rape”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:21 AM
3

Again, if women really were as koo koo for sociopaths as you guys believe, the entire world would be a war zone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:52 AM
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Hint: lovebombing and courtship behavior works, especially on women from abusive backgrounds. Also: savior/fixer complexes Do those sound healthy? I know sex is good, dudes, but there are a lot of damaged women out there
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 01:01 AM
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That’s what they tell themselves to salve their egos
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 12:50 AM
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Ah, the only ones who count
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 11:00 PM
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All women, eh? Every one?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 10:39 PM
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I get it. Low expectations are the best expectations. Don’t expect any sympathy, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 10:35 PM
3

Worse. More ads. Increased monetization. Why would it change ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 10:32 PM
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They have nothing to offer except PUA gimmicks. Red pill “knowledge” is neither original nor clever
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 10:01 PM
3

Legally? As in having no autonomy and independence? WTF do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 10:00 PM
3

Yeah We know you have a dick just like every other dude. It isn’t special, and it’s not why we swiped on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:58 PM
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You ok there, bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:57 PM
3

Then whats the problem? Seems fair to me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:42 PM
5

And the guys pursuing her are 35-year-old winners too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:56 PM
3

All those nice, decent guys my friends, family members, coworkers, acquaintances and I dated must be in sexless relationships then. So many sexless relationships, considering that majority of men aren’t assholes! Doesn’t that sound absurd? I assure you, it sounds absurd to normal people. We worry about bills, health, politics, kids, safety and other shit, not our genitalia and our egos
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:29 PM
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Maybe the parents aren’t lying — they actually do think their son can succeed? Good parents would also, you know, help their kids by encouraging them to diversify, adapt, persevere and pursue other things. Blaming parents and society also seems a bit weak and whiny, no? Are you not an adult with agency ? Can’t be bitter forever; no one admires that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:02 PM
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Women who actually love their men do exist. It’s not abusive for parents to encourage their sons to find one. Would they be good parents to say, son, you’re only good enough to work at McDonald’s/find a gold-digger?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:53 PM
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Really? Most of the relationships in your life involve men with bad personalities who are selfish assholes? Even I have a higher opinion of dudes than that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:48 PM
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That is totally fair and I agree completely. choice for the win!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:46 PM
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I see. Please point out all these average leading men in movies (comedies don’t count, sorry). As well as all those mediocre looking Disney princes, heroes, and leaders. Of course parents tell their sons that. They want them to marry someone who loves them, same as for their daughters. Different gender motivations (sex vs relationships), different advice. Is this novel information?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:39 PM
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Because they ducking complain about being lied to all the goddam time? Or at least in the manosphere. Normies don’t whine about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:28 PM
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And you have realized, over the years and all by yourself, that men are thirstier and less discriminating than women, yes? Or do you believe that male and female libidos are identical?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:25 PM
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A little empathy (putting oneself in another’s shoes) would clear up men’s confusion right away. Is that too much to ask? Apparently so. All men have to do is realize that when you ask a woman what is desirable in a man, she means in a relationship, not just sex. She is not lying, you are just talking past each other. Looks/attraction is a given. This especially makes us annoyed. Are movies stars, popular kids, musicians, and leaders UGLY? Or even AVERAGE!? Use your eyes, men, we are humans, not…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:13 PM
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I am not sure how you quantify that, but ok. It is irrelevant because the stakes are higher for women. Women who don’t savvy up to reality get raped, killed, abused, etc. And then blamed for “not knowing how men are”. To use that quote you all hate, “men are afraid women will laugh at them; women are afraid men will kill them”.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:07 PM
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[deleted cuz I’m not a dude. Sorry]
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:44 PM
2

That’s your own personal opinion. Law enforcement, society and myself think very differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:34 PM
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Self defense =/= slap her around. Your attempt to justify your own choice to do violence is disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:31 PM
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That either. I’ve had children and teens initiate violence with me. That does not justify me lowering my shoulder to teach them a lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:26 PM
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I will never agree that physical violence is equal or justified due to provocation, particularly male vs female violence. Modern society doesn’t condone or support it either. Do not use my comments as support of your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:24 PM
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No what they mean is they want to go back to the courtship phase when the dude was romantic and on his best behavior. I don’t blame the dudes, unless they are straight up abusive. They are showing the women who they are, and the women don’t want to see it. That’s on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:13 PM
1

Ooooh, it’s “genghis khan” dude! I knew you sounded familiar!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:51 PM
1

I only hate sluts if they’re assholes too. Or, I should just say, I hate assholes, not sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:36 PM
3

Take away the oil, how stable and prosperous would a lot of patriarchal countries be?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:28 PM
3

Sex workers exist. And soon, so will VR and robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:26 PM
3

Please. The reason lots of men never reproduced was that they were killed by other dudes, not because of evil women. I believe the widely accepted statistic for pre-agricultural societies is 20-25% of men killed by interspecies violence. “Kill all the men (and sometimes children) and take the women for yourselves” is pretty much the oldest war strategy in the book. Women had no reproductive agency until modern times.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:23 PM
3

This is why I support sex workers in theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:19 PM
2

This certainly seems to be true. I lurk the relationship/abuse subs, and a good chunk of the women there are just tying themselves in knots to justify their terrible situations because they “want it to go back to the way it was”. Lots of sunk cost fallacy too. Love bombing appears to be a good investment, as does appealing to women’s “fixer” impulses
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:15 PM
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Let’s be real, for all the angsting about validation and desire, most men would have no qualms about having a captive wife. It was the norm for most of human society, and still is for a good chunk of present humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:10 PM
1

K
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:31 AM
3

Yes, they must be lying, such things cannot be real
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:18 AM
2

And immigrants
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:47 AM
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“In any group of girl friends, there’s the smart one, the pretty one, the nice one...and then there’s the hoe. Check amongst yourselves; which one are you?” — Margaret Cho
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:35 AM
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Again, all those women are free to bang other dudes as well, and are not off the market for life. True “harems” of women fucking only one man their entire lives are rare and not societally significant or promoted. Even Hefner’s bunnies came and went in his mansion and had other partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:36 AM
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“You have a few men with a bunch of women... this is poligamy in action”. Uh, where? Those fundamentalist Mormons? Muslims? Not significant numbers of them by societal standards. I don’t see where these large groups of hoarded women are; I’ve never met any. Divorced people/people whose spouses have died — are they off limits for some reason? Do you just mean infidelity? Even that tends to be a two-person activity, not a gang bang. And murder as a punishment for said “illegal polygamy/woman hoard…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:18 AM
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Splitting the women up already happens, ya know. It’s called “polygamy is illegal”. The gender ratio is 1:1. Unless dating divorcees/widows/widowers is also made illegal, I don’t see significant numbers of women being taken out of the dating/relationship market or otherwise “hoarded”. There should theoretically be roughly equivalent numbers of available men and women, and thus, equivalent opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 03:58 AM
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If sex felt as good for women as it did for men, “lie back and think of England”, “duty sex”, “starfish sex” and “headaches” wouldn’t be a thing. Historically, do you think Mrs. Peasant (the most common type of woman in the world) in her arranged marriage was having multiple screaming orgasms in her straw bed on the floor ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 03:54 AM
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You seemed pretty adamant about “all” (bolded AND emphasized, no less) women in the previous comment. But 60% is quite different from 100%; just ask a cancer patient if you don’t believe me. Words do have meanings. Amazingly, I do have a job and do not expect my partner to “provide” for me, now or in the future. Approaching/propositioning is men’s strategy because they want sex more. Dating/courtship is women’s strategy because they want relationships more. This seems fair and reasonable to most…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 03:47 AM
1

No one’s forcing you on that wheel! Seems preferable to a lifetime of sex you don’t want. And sex workers exist!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 03:06 AM
1

All women divorce for better men? Or all women cheat with better men? These are two different things, you know I am still not clear on this hypergamy thing, but either claim seems a little far-fetched
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 03:00 AM
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What is shitty? Divorcing or being a stay at home parent? My point is that men are not excluded from the vast riches of alimony/child support. All you have to do is the same thing women do — give up your job and/or take on the majority of childcare. Equality!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 02:08 AM
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Of course the sex drive is biological; but people have sex because it feels good, not because it makes babies. Remove the feeling good part, and they will not want to have sex, thus explaining women’s lower enthusiasm for the act. And evolution doesn’t exclusively inform what we find attractive. Otherwise interracial relationships would be extremely rare, older women with loads of kids would be considered super hot, and so would people with smaller heads. If you agree with those 2 points (it see…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 12:42 AM
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Sex is divorced from reproduction now. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 12:02 AM
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Adopted kid; female. I don’t understand why it’s so hard for people to understand that we don’t fuck DNA, we fuck people. We don’t have relationships with DNA, we have them with people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 11:53 PM
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If a hot chick was infertile, you would refuse to fuck her, right? Cuz it’s all about the reproductions and chromasomies!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 11:50 PM
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No, the reason is that you are making an incorrect statement. Women have it so much easier getting CASUAL SEX. That is a correct statement. And the second part of it is: Women have it so much easier getting casual sex, AND WE DON’T WANT IT Then, no one would have a problem with what you are saying, I promise
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 11:41 PM
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Well, that’s probably why you are concerned about it being “good”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 10:37 PM
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But you’ll still come even if it’s not good, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:46 PM
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“Genetics” Snort. Yup, when I gaze lustily at that dude in the gym, I’m not thinking “nice abs”, or, “what an awesome butt”, nope! I’m really thinking, “I wanna blow up like a hippo and destroy my vagina so I can birth a baby with his genes 9 months after fucking him once”. I get totally wet thinking about sperm and dna! Ooooooookay!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:15 PM
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Why do you think I’m not?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:11 PM
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If your wife makes considerably more than you and/or you’re not working, she will pay alimony to you. If you took on the majority of child care before, and will continue to take on the majority of child care and physical custody after the divorce, your ex-wife will pay you child support. So — be a full-time, stay-at-home dad, or at least a househusband, divorce, and watch the dollars roll in! Ch-ching!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:07 PM
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“unequal” penalties = illegal Wow, words have new meanings! Is this definition in the OED too? “Honey, I just made an unequally penalized left turn! Why am I getting a ticket?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:02 PM
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These are the same people that use the term “divorce rape” so you shouldn’t be surprised. I would wonder if they too would like to experience both. A bad divorce or a violent rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 07:43 PM
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Why you wanna take away men’s powers, man? And why you wanna call OP a liar? You saying most of these married dudes (and there are quite a few on this sub) are weak-minded, weak-resolved males who were bullied into meekly spending thousands and thousands of dollars on rings, food, music, venues, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:56 PM
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I am just doing her the courtesy of taking her at her word. In the OP of the post we are all responding to. In a debate/discussion sub. Where words have meanings. Which I have also courteously reproduced for you to clarify my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:49 PM
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The final line of the OP claims, “It is women, not men, who decide if lifetime commitment via marriage happens” Since divorce is not illegal for men, this is patently untrue. Also, please DO correct me if I’m wrong, it is mostly men who do the proposing of marriage, yes? And to do so at gunpojnt is no longer a tradition, yes? So, amazingly, men also have the agency to not only end a marriage, but also to initiate it. What freedom!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:42 PM
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“Not super made up” is still make up. It still takes time to learn and perfect, and products need to be bought. If men picked plain faces in burlap sacks to hit on over AshleyMcInstagrammer the lifestyle maven, then they would not be hypocrites Similarly, if a woman complained about wanting a “nice” ride while still bitching about the time/money spent on making said ride “nice”, then we would have equivalent hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:41 PM
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This is a variant on the “we were too blind to see that the hot guys were popular, that leaders are usually tall and good looking, and that athletic ability and charisma are attractive! WE WAS TOTALLY DECEIVED!” argument. You know, poor menz couldn’t pick up on the basic values of humanity on their own, unlike womens, waaaaaaaaah!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:17 PM
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Both genders can and do divorce. Thus, women do not have a monopoly on commitment. And, amazingly, both genders can consent to sex. So no monopoly there either. Sorry I had to spell it out so explicitly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:06 PM
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It’s been touched on, but it’s the hypocrisy that’s the problem Men: Make up is so boring! Also men: Ew, look at that plain faced uggo! Men: Cooking is lame and for girls Also men: Wolfs down all the baked goods and square meals Now, if I complained about my bfs gaming habit but ALSO spent the money he got from his twitch stream, that would be equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:04 PM
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Q4All: do the things you like make you happy? Next Q: is water wet?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:57 PM
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Even middle schoolers know this. Do you think teen boys are good at hiding their raging boners and crude, hormonal brains?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:55 PM
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If it’s good, yes. But you usually have to train a dude to make it good
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:54 PM
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It’s the hypocrisy that’s the point, dude. “Women’s interest in cosmetics/fashion are boring and stupid!” —-> jerks it to shaved chicks in makeup, heels, short skirts, etc; ignores plain women in dumpy clothes for curated instagrammers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:43 PM
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We’re all so deceptive and evil!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:32 PM
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I guess I actually don’t know how to play the piano and ukulele, and my vegetable garden and botanical drawings are totally imaginary! Who knew? I must be a delusional women with hysteria!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:14 PM
3

Again, what are these magical vagina powers? Are gay men therefore unable to raise kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:13 PM
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Men can’t mother like a woman? What mean? Do single fathers not exist? What magical thing can a woman do in child rearing that a man cannot?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:22 PM
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But video games are?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:02 PM
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So what are dumb boring female hobbies? If you say makeup/fashion/social media, then I guess you want all your women plain faced, unshaven and wearing a burhka because, you know, its what’s on the inside that counts
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:01 PM
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No one dies anymore, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:53 PM
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Thank goodness
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:44 PM
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Hey it’s the thought that counts. At least they threw in some terms and made a minimal effort, unlike a lot of posts recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:42 PM
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Of course. Blue pill is the standard; why would the majority argue against itself? Red pill is the thing arguing against the norm — if there was no red pill this sub wouldn’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:49 AM
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Cock carousel, blah blah, where are all the good men, blah blah blah, hitting the wall oh noes! Got anything original? You know, something that hasn’t been hashed to death a million times? This is boring. I’m bored
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:33 AM
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The comment history is even better: “You can’t groom a teenage girl” (I invite you to try, OP, I’m sure her parents and the police would disagree) “I get laid a lot/had sex with over 200 women” —> posts in incel subs “Silly young women/girl” many times “I used to be a schoolteacher” —- holy shit Iranian quds = “monkeys” Israel = “pretty much the worst country on earth” “Bi-men are confused gays” That’s just the last month
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:41 AM
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Oooooo, why didn’t I check it? What a rodeo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:30 AM
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I’m way past the wall, but was once young and wished someone told me how naive and stupid I was. It was truly cringy No one at all blames old dudes for pursuing young hotties for their bodies — it’s the taking advantage of their soft and undeveloped brains that’s the problem. If women couldn’t reproduce before, say, 27, that would eliminate most of those terrible decisions due to pride and immaturity
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:28 AM
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Humblebragging and attention-seeking is disrespectful on a debate sub; so are boring topics There’s been so many generic and low effort posts lately; what is going on? Are the regulars all dead?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:11 PM
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Then they will mine the comments for more post topics. The vicious cycle will continue!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:09 PM
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If our bodies were perfectly efficient we could photosynthesize! If jealousy and pain didn’t exist we could all be happy! If unicorns were magic I could have endless fat free ice cream!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:05 PM
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Red pill and its associated movements wish to circumvent the Golden Rule by arguing that women and men are “equal but different”. We all know where stuff like that goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:02 PM
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You’re awesome, you Sexy Silver Fox! You’re soooo right! You deserve all the young ladies! And so should all men!! Ok, we validated you; will you go away now?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 10:59 PM
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BTW OP, thank you for an actual PPD question. I am so over these generic askreddit/askmen/askwomen posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 10:19 PM
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Was PPD referenced in r/agegap or r/dating? Where are all these people coming from?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 10:18 PM
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Oh ho, it’s another sexual socialism post! Thanks for clarifying!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 10:04 PM
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It’s preferable to subsistence farming, a rigid class system, or a war zone, as my grandparents would attest
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 10:02 PM
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Yes, I have a suspicion that’s why there is so much mental illness and drug abuse in modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 09:56 PM
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I feel bad for dumb young women desperate to prove how grown up they are. It’s as embarrassing as an edgelord phase. But the predatory aspect bothers me most. Too many unhealthy dynamics in a good chunk of these relationships — boundary pushing, isolation, financial dependence. Older pursuers can be like sickos who groom children to accept terrible behavior as normal. Also, the kids born of such unions, yikes. A 20-plus age gap doesn’t bother me when the younger partner is over 30
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 09:49 PM
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Ok, if you say so. It must be true then!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 09:46 PM
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You underestimate how boring, lazy and conservative most of humanity is. You see what safe, well-fed zoo animals do all day? Nothing, that’s what. I love it, personally, although I believe apathy over climate change, not gender wars, will get us in the end. There will be sex bots, VR distractions, etc, before there is a sex war
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 09:41 PM
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If women were as in love with the dark triad as you and the rest of red pill/incels/mgtow/etc claim, the earth would be a smoking cinder
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 09:38 PM
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See OP? This reply above is why it keeps going on. Please note that is men, not women, saying these things
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 09:35 PM
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Yup. He can kiss that “50 years of bliss” marriage goodbye. And me nursing him and giving a shit when he’s old. But I will put up an amiable face
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 09:30 PM
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Um....the misogyny and crossover into alt-rightism?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 09:15 PM
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Red pill is just common sense/self help with gendered packaging. Like “dude wipes” or pink tool belts. This is why normal people think it’s absurd. Painting racing stripes on it doesn’t make it a new thing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:39 PM
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Are we buzzfeed now?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 07:45 PM
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—— Men seek casual sex because (many of us) are slaves to constant sexual impulse, not to "feel special". ——One of my good friends is a Ryan Gosling-ish traveling cinematographer who makes 100+k a year and can fuck anyone he wants. Do you think after he fucks some rando chick he'll never see again in Vienna, or Brussels, or Glasgow, or wherever, that he's like, "oh my god, I did it because I wanted to feel special! She made me feel so special!" I’m not the only one who took issue with this, sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 06:06 PM
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You also said that dudes don’t brag about casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 05:18 PM
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Your argument is that casual sex is like taking a dump to men — a bodily function that everyone does. Tons of male posters here, and entire male subs, would argue that is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 05:07 PM
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You wish
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:54 PM
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Not being a selfish asshole in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:54 PM
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Yeah, isn’t that what incels constantly moan about—-Sex is validation?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:49 PM
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What is male ambition for then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:48 PM
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A guy who bangs lots of chicks is looked down on by dudes? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:44 PM
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She gets ALL the benefits of male violence and wealth and none of the downsides. Who wouldn’t want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:41 PM
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Yeah, we’re not talking about the drug dealing equivalent of the McD’s counter worker. They’re talking about the good looking slacker who seems to have no job but a ton of money and free time. And is constantly on the phone supplying his clients
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:28 PM
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Don’t men want to feel special too? Like, she actually wants to be around you, likes the things you do, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:25 PM
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Nope. You do that, a guy will think “it’s pussy time!” And that’s all their brains can handle The reaction I wanted was “she seems cool, I’d like to get to know her/have her around” Do people really not know this? I thought this was normal behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:18 PM
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Of course it did. If a dude is interested, they will let you know. And if they’re not, you won’t be too humiliated or taken advantage of
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:45 AM
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Nope. My aim wasn’t to get them interested in a fuck. It was to see if they would bother to interact with me as a human, not a fleshlight
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 04:35 AM
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Made myself physically available (not sex, just proximity) all the time. If I wasn’t interested, I’d be elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 03:53 AM
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Other responders already covered specifics, but it’s actually the general behaviors associated with porn sex that annoy me: —the constant nagging to perform it regularly or exclusively —the insistence that there’s something wrong with me for not liking it —the emotional detachment/box checking off behavior that makes it obvious that they need sex to be a particular way to get off (i.e., a porn trained dick) and that they are not mentally there with me In other words, they are re-living porn (whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 03:06 AM
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FDS is totally in their heads I can see how much they totes don’t care about it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 02:27 AM
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Why are you guys so obsessed with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 01:47 AM
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All these women are describing their experiences, and your response? “You’re lying, it’s a myth”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:58 AM
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Do you find porn a good representation of fulfilling sex? If so, do you understand why some (a lot?) of women would not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:51 AM
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Also, please note that almost no dudes are backing you up on this either. They all agree that no one is obligated to humor you or your penis feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:48 AM
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The answer is no, he doesn’t. It’s hypocrisy. He expects women to do what he wants and is offended when they don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:46 AM
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That’s exactly what “How is it taking a mile to not end a conversation if at least one person is enjoying it” means and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:32 AM
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Objective = “agree completely with me”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:31 AM
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“You should do what I want! Just my wants, not yours! I wants it! I wants it!”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:27 AM
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Why shouldn’t our opinions matter? We’re the ones you’re hitting on, bro dude!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:23 AM
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Have you actually watched a sample size of porn, TradMetalWife? Are you asking in good faith? I have doubts
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:13 AM
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Uhhhhhh....wtf is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 11:30 PM
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Simple Woman/pussy is thing. A “thing” that can be “owned”, “used” or “given” This explains all the virgin/n count obsession as well — i.e., a new, unblemished “thing”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 11:22 PM
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Not a whole lot. You have been to Wal-Mart, yes? Unless you mean, “attractive to hot, sought after, mentally stable women”? Because that’s a different kettle of fish
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 11:18 PM
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Yes, I think so too. Just lovebomb the shit out of her Seems to work on those with low self esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 10:38 PM
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This is classic — and not the first time I’ve see this attitude Minding one’s own lady business/not wanting dick = dehumanization Like, worse than slavery, man!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 10:00 PM
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Retribution and violence, obvs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 09:58 PM
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OP, I hope a large number of cool, nice gay dudes move into your neighborhood. And want to become your friend. A lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 09:48 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 06:13 PM
5

You really think they’re not masturbating?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 06:13 PM
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Most people only interact with people who are worth their time. You’re only interacting with those women because they make your pee pee hard, so it’s hard to see what you’re doing as “altruistic” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 05:57 PM
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Me me me, my needs, my wants, my desire to talk to/fuck/relationship someone, me me me.....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 05:49 PM
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Not for me But for how society treats me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 05:48 PM
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So why are women specifically from your neighborhood obligated to talk to and give you a chance more than other people? Why does proximity override their autonomy? Is it because you “know where they live” and can threaten/retaliate if you wanted? Because I promise, those women have thought about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 05:46 PM
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Everyone is asking you WTH your neighborhood has to do with it? So yeah, your OP is weirdly specific
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 05:31 PM
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r/oddlyspecific
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 04:19 PM
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Is this not a pill debate sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 06:45 AM
2

The red pill stance is that women lie or are in denial about what they are attracted to (hotness and the so-called “dark triad” traits)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 06:03 AM
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The vast majority of us give up childish views and are totally fine, but “adulting” will always elude an unfortunate minority
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 09:33 PM
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The majority of everybody figures it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 09:31 PM
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If you took away the little testosterone that women have, we would never want to have sex with anyone ever. Is that your goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 08:22 PM
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No, she just argued that poverty causes single motherhood, not vice versa. Even my dumb brain could understand that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 06:29 PM
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Here’s a single article detailing 14 women who were killed/hurt for rejecting dudes https://www.mic.com/articles/135394/14-women-were-brutally-attacked-for-rejecting-men-why-arent-we-talking-about-it I’m sure I could paste, oh, a LOT more if I felt like it Or, you could just look at https://whenwomenrefuse.tumblr.com
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 07:00 AM
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I’d prefer to be valued based on what’s inside my skull and what I can physically/mentally do rather than as a vagina host. Would you like it if people only cared about you if they could stick their fingers up your ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 06:53 AM
3

Why does not getting laid whenever/with whoever you want make you nothing? Are you just a penis life support system?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 06:50 AM
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We’re valued for pussy. Wow, so amazing and fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 06:49 AM
2

Guess what? No one is stopping you or any other man from pursuing this dream of a relationship, I promise! So...I don’t see what the problem is?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 12:57 AM
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Well, personally, I use the equation: 2y + 1/2x - 3z = pussy time Then, I spread, lie back, and think about how to spend his money and jack him for his sperm and 18 plus years of child support and a hefty retirement plan. It is very logical and involves no feelings at all. Doesn’t that sound appealing, men? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 12:45 AM
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If you had a different username, I would answer in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 12:42 AM
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What “responsibility”? Are we supposed to have some sort of equation that we plug income + height + niceness + whatever into, in order to decide which dude we will let into the holy pussy cave? Fuck your feelings, copulate based on math!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 12:35 AM
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We don’t orgasm as much as/with men. Thus, it is not as enjoyable to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 11:54 PM
2

You have heard one of their basic beliefs, right? It’s referred to all the time on this sub: “Women: the oldest teenager in the house” This is not a minority view either. Female intellectual inferiority is dragged up all the time, especially by evopsychs
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 09:43 PM
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“That is the only reason I limited my words so they apply to what women can say to young men.” Yeah. “Ducking use your brain like we did” I thought men were supposed to be more intelligent, more logical, less solipstic, and less emotional than women, so they should be able to grasp the truth much more quickly and easily than our feeble lady brains. At least that’s what the Red Pill says.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 09:22 PM
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Girls are lied to also. But no one gives us a pass for not knowing better. Why ya want special treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:28 PM
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You expect teen boys and young twentysomethings to listen to their elders? To have forethought, planning, and rationality? The truth is in plain view; they just don’t want to see it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:22 PM
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You should see how well “I’m not attracted to you/your personality is annoying/you’re lazy and selfish” goes down in real life. Hint: men are more likely to double down (let’s take away their right to vote! Sex bots! Let’s import 3rd world women!) or whine than take the truth on board and do something with it. You can see it all the time on this very sub
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:10 PM
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Hear, hear!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 07:44 PM
4

Most people (a slim majority?) are not assholes so yes. Or maybe “tolerate” would be a better word
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 04:12 PM
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Yes. And also to weed out assholes, losers, the lazy and the selfish. In short, you’re trying to find someone you can spend 20+ years with without strangling them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 03:08 PM
3

Anyone in LA? How much do those goddam roadside cellophane wrapped bears cost?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 05:47 AM
3

Don’t be a selfish asshole. Don’t become a selfish, complacent asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 01:41 AM
3

FDS to TRP/PPD: “Why are you so obsessed with me?”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 09:28 PM
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Almost every major news outlet covered it. That’s silence?!?! What a privileged point of view. “We’re not having town hall meetings, protests, marches and rallies because both sides in a dysfunctional, celebrity relationship are batshjt crazy! It’s a conspiracy against MEN!”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 09:24 PM
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You said “silent”. I don’t see “silence” here
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 05:27 PM
2

Well, thanks for taking the time to answer, if not in total good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 10:01 PM
1

What’s “the right way”, pray tell, and how can it be achieved ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 06:29 PM
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“Needs need to be met in the right way” eh? We gonna have laws about that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 06:09 PM
1

This (admittedly old but famous) experiment seems to show that a drug-like pleasure rush is more important than sex, food, children, and socializing, at least as far as rats go https://www.huffpost.com/entry/compass-pleasure_b_890342
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 05:47 PM
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Of course not. Money isn’t going to make a boring, selfish, or lazy personality go away. But good news, there are still women who will put up with it. Especially if you put in some love bombing and old fashioned courtship bull. Look at the abuse/relationship subs — there are tons of them!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 05:32 PM
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“Also, you cant enjoy life without sex, as sex is literally by design, the most pleasurable activity our brains can experience.” Really? I know a few people that drugged themselves to death; don’t know any that sexed themselves to death
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 04:57 PM
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We know what you guys mean, sheesh. Do you think we don’t understand what “glow up” means either? Do better, feel better; this isn’t a novel concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 04:24 PM
2

Says you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 02:27 AM
1

In dating, money is an indicator In marriage, money is an asset
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 12:11 AM
1

I suppose lying, snobbishness, and callousness are traits that would become apparent in a relationship eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 11:19 PM
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In theory, I wouldn’t reject a man who employed sexual services unless he: Degraded, insulted or otherwise looked down upon the person(s) who provided the very service he requested (what does that say about your needs, dude?) Didn’t care about or made no effort to vet for abuse/coercion Utilized said services while in an exclusive relationship and/or lied about it In practice, however, these things are hard to verify, so I’d probably just pass altogether
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 10:57 PM
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I picked mainstream porn fetishes for a reason. The point wasn’t “does it make you hard?” but “do you want to do it in real life?”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 07:26 PM
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Other people already explained this. You keep asking, so I guess you must have some sort of agenda. I hope someone feeds you the answer you want soon!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:54 PM
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Testosterone. I believe trans people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:52 PM
2

Transgression is hot. Why else do you think the slutty catholic schoolgirl/preachers daughter is a trope? Everyone has already chimed in on this very basic quirk of human sexuality but you don’t seem to believe them for some reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:48 PM
2

You answered your own question in the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:39 PM
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Isn’t that your op? “Why are women engaging in fantasy? Are those desires based in some real life connection?” I’m sure you don’t ask this about men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:36 PM
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I can’t believe we actually have to entertain these questions. Men are always saying “it’s just a fantasy! I don’t really want to anally rape Cambodian children!” but for some reason can’t extrapolate that to the other half of the human race. Unless they are lying about the fantasy part
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:32 PM
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Fantasies are not real life. Do you actually want to have a middle-aged dwarf lesbian milf stepsister gangbang with scat play?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:27 PM
2

Please stun us with your intellect, then
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 01:49 AM
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Is anything they said incorrect?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 01:38 AM
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Porn sex sucks Porn addicts prefer porn to sex Limp, temperamental dick sucks Porn portrays neither respect nor affection nor love Aren’t those enough reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 01:01 AM
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Why don’t you visit your local police station and tell them they should stop being so hard on poor, innocent men? I’m sure they will agree with you. And if women get victimized by men? “Why were you female in public? You should have known better and been suspicious of men!! You can’t expect them to not murder/rape/steal/molest!” (See: Islam) I’m not saying it; society is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 08:50 PM
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When women kill, rape, molest, steal and destroy as much as men do, then people’s attitudes will change. I don’t carry a weapon and have a security system in my house to protect myself from women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 08:42 PM
2

If you look at porn from a woman’s point of view, sure seems like men hate us
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 08:41 PM
1

Most people are not egotistical enough to consider their genes some sort of awesome, sacred thing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 08:40 PM
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You should start a campaign — CIRCUMCISION (I would hazard a guess, performed by male doctors as much as female doctors) IS RAPE!!!! I’m sure the mainstream audience would find it very convincing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 08:38 PM
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You should start a campaign — CIRCUMCISION (I would hazard a guess, performed by male doctors as much as female doctors) IS RAPE!!!! I’m sure the mainstream audience would find it very convincing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 08:38 PM
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“I am the special one, the only person he treats nicely”. This is also the basis of hybristophilia, the fetish for serial killers and other criminals
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 07:17 PM
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Having a lazy dude who never picks up after himself, plays video games and ignores you, can’t be bothered to socialize or plan outings, and is meh in bed is a net negative, no matter how much $$$ or other stuff he brings to the relationship. Juice, squeeze, you know the routine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 06:45 PM
0

Everyone has argued with you that, by definition, attractiveness is relative — that is, determined subjectively and not objectively. Do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 06:08 PM
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Men want to fuck women more than women want to fuck men. Thus, women are more attractive to men then men are to women. Is this, like, news to you all? I thought everyone knew this. And that unicorns are not real
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 03:51 AM
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Sure seems like that’s what you’re getting at
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 11:24 PM
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Let’s put it this way: once in a while, I eat at mcdonalds. I know it’s bad for me and I shouldn’t do it, but i don’t deny my agency in choosing to purchase it. I do assume that the people working there aren’t well educated, are immigrants, or have made some bad choices and have limited options because of it. What I don’t do is think they are bad people, insult them or act like I’m better than them because they are providing a service/product that I have sought out and chosen to purchase
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 11:23 PM
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Just because men would slut it up if they could doesn’t mean women will. Projection at its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 11:15 PM
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So, only virgins then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 11:14 PM
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You should be responsible for the things you post voluntarily (and anonymously) on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 10:14 PM
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A justified action which has the unfortunate side effect of enabling an exploitative industry whose members are unfairly demonized and degraded
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 05:01 PM
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Waste of electrons, what’s new?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 04:50 PM
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This is not a good comparison. A better comparison would be, what if half the men in the world were gay, were stronger and more violent than you, and held most of the wealth/positions of authority — how would that affect your life as a straight man?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 04:12 PM
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Oh no, you might have to make an effort, communicate, and give a shit about your partner! You can’t just plug 1/2x +4y into the woman unit and make it happy, it’s unpredictable! How awful!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 12:04 AM
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Crazily, people still live happy lives without dictionary-definition “unconditional love”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 09:52 PM
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What is this insanity ? Blue pill = demisexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 05:42 PM
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Said earlier: Society pushes a lot of narratives that aren’t true for the majority of people. “You are special and unique” “It’s what’s on the inside that counts” “All lives matter” “Go to college, get a better job” “Get a good job, secure a stable life” “Our corporation cares about you, the consumer/customer” “Blood is thicker than water” “Anyone can become anything if they try hard enough and believe” “Meritocracy” “Equal under the law” “People are good/bad” “Unconditional love” “For the child…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 12:12 AM
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You wouldn’t answer the question, so I prompted. I guess you’re not gonna regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 12:04 AM
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Ok, then what primarily “female” hobbies/interests are shallow and boring? Social media? Fashion/cosmetics? Crafts/decor?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 12:00 AM
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What do you consider “worthy” interests or hobbies? And why are interpersonal relationships considered a “worthless” thing to be interested in? I find it hypocritical for the manosphere/pills to bemoan the loneliness of men while deriding social exchanges/discussions based on relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 11:50 PM
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Also, “I’m special because the Beast loves me, Beauty, and only me. He’s shitty to everyone else!” It’s a tale as old as time...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 09:04 PM
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Exactly. We can’t afford to be naive about reality or we get abused, murdered, and raped
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 06:59 PM
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“Quit whining” but with more shame I don’t agree with it, but, like mocking virginity or dick size, it unfortunately seems to work as an additional humiliation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 05:06 AM
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Not my fault that some dudes don’t know how to connect their critical thinking skills to their senses or prefer to cling to a fantasy. It’s sad, really. Privilege is a bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 12:41 AM
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All one has to do is look around and see that ugly, good-hearted people get picked after hot people. Again, most people manage to pick up on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 12:32 AM
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Au contraire, red pill’s whole raison d’etre is “we were not spoon fed the truth!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 12:19 AM
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Society pushes a lot of narratives that aren’t true for the majority of people. “You are special and unique” “It’s what’s on the inside that counts” “All lives matter” “Go to college, get a better job” “Get a good job, secure a stable life” “Our corporation cares about you, the consumer/customer” “Blood is thicker than water” “Anyone can become anything if they try hard enough and believe” “Meritocracy” “Equal under the law” “People are good/bad” “Unconditional love” “For the children” “What you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 10:55 PM
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Most, in fact almost all, the people I know fuck. We’re old though. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 10:48 PM
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Do you think the majority of people are having orgies and anal? I invite you to try the following with your next new partner, unprompted, which are all normal behaviors in porn: Calling her a slut/whore/sister/mom/milf Slapping/choking/spitting/facials Anal without lube or prep Constant switching to camera friendly positions Heaving your partner around to achieve said positions Jackhammering for 30-45 minutes Wailing away on her clit like a controller Literally flicking the bean with your tongue…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 10:38 PM
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If you think porn portrays real sex, I don’t feel sorry for you. If you think rom coms, Bollywood films and Disney movies aren’t fantasies, I don’t feel sorry for you. And if you need to be explicitly told that looks matter most in dating success, I really don’t feel sorry for you. Even the red pill says, watch actions, not words. The truth is all around. Attractive people of both genders are the prize, regardless of their other qualities. I promise you that the vast majority of people in the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:33 PM
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Because attraction based on looks is right and natural for men, but not for women. I can’t believe this is a widely held belief, but there you go. Because Quasimodo got the girl, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:28 PM
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My point is I have no sympathy for the “we were lied to!” crowd. You shouldn’t have to be spoon fed reality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 07:03 PM
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Society and the people in my life told me that all men want is sex, men will hurt you if they get the chance, I’m less than a man and should serve them, and that I’m expected to lay down and just take it for the good of all. Guess what? I went out and experienced life and realized that wasn’t true! I guess I am just special and amazing for using my brain and senses!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:41 PM
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Women’s choice = tyranny over men Ok, dude, if that’s the hill you want to die on, I guess I don’t have anything more to say to you. It’s sad that you see yourself as so oppressed and powerless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 10:53 PM
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Yup, that would do it. Either that or Ayn Rand
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 10:38 PM
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Didn’t we just have a couple of posts establishing that most people on this sub are just here to gawk/troll? Even most users here don’t believe it is a pressing issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 10:36 PM
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Do you believe that situation is the norm/majority of hetero relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 10:34 PM
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Believe it or not, some people (some men, even) are just fine being alone. Should that not be an option? Also, hypergamy is a result of autonomy/choice, so where would you like to go with that, hm?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 10:13 PM
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Nobody wants me for me. Why should they? This doesn’t cause me anguish and rage, it’s the way things are — for everyone. I’m not special.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 08:08 PM
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I would never want a man to be with me because he had no other options, let alone because I was extorting him or something? I’d let him go for someone who really wants him no problem. When dudes equate a “no, thanks” with “I hate you and want you to suffer”, it’s kind of...unreasonable and off putting. And untrue. You equating women’s choices and behaviors with malice (what effort!) doesn’t seem to be resonating with many here. Seems a bit...victim-y, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 08:06 PM
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Rabbits? Really? The posts here recently, man — it’s worse than purge week. And I hated purge week. So dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 05:09 PM
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The average man isn’t happy with what “tries and puts effort” gets him. This is the case for both genders though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 05:08 PM
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People of either gender don’t respect the desperate or doormats. Those who trust and give blindly get taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 04:13 AM
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Most mature and confident people play a little game called “don’t ask, don’t tell”. Some things, especially in the past, don’t need to be dragged up, examined, and agonized over, and yes, I am referring to both genders. This is also in conjunction with making sure their partners’ words and actions line up. You know, “trust but verify”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 09:25 PM
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Yes, most of the interesting stuff was created by men. Who didn’t have to waste their time raising kids. Also, most of the destructive & evil shit in the world, like say, war, rape, murder — also men! I’d say it balances out in the end
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:24 PM
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As far as I can tell, men in modern Western society are free to court/proposition any woman they like for sex or relationships. And women are free to accept or decline. Doesn’t sound like a prison of inequality to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 03:23 AM
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It’s not “dick is cheap; make them pay”. It’s “dick is cheap, so no thanks, I don’t want it” It seems pretty evenly unhappy to me. You’re jealous of me, because I can run out into the street and get a homeless dude to fuck me whenever I want (awesome, wow), and I’m jealous of you because people aren’t constantly trying to to get into your pants and only your pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 12:41 AM
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I have lots of sympathy for dudes. I sympathize with their crazy, unquenchable sex drive, their need for validation and of that. I have lived my life trying to adjust to their issues by dressing conservatively, curtailing my freedom of movement, holding back my friendliness to avoid “leading them on”, and dating/fucking men I’m not totally attracted to in favor of their other qualities. It’s similar to the sympathy I have for true pedophiles who are unfortunately attracted to humans who cannot t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 07:57 PM
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I agree. I’m all for sex robots and VR
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 06:22 PM
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“I want women to realise how they negatively impact men with how they exercise their power.” I want men to understand how their violence and disdain for my gender outside of vagina impacts women. We can play this game too!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:41 PM
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Yah. Country that has given women autonomy vs country that hasn’t. Let’s go!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:36 PM
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Idk about you but I’d take any modern first world country in a straight up brawl with 19th century Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:22 PM
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You can enforce this “freedom of men” by taking away “freedom of women”. I’m sure you see how well it works in other countries. Then, your society/country can get stomped by societies/countries that don’t waste their energy on restricting the movement/autonomy of half their populations. I mean, I’m kind of convinced that, if you don’t have wealth from dead dinosaur sludge, the more effort you need to expend to keep your women in line, the less energy/attention you have to have free lines of comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:50 PM
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82% of the custodial parents are women because they are the primary caregiver. This is usually by mutual agreement. There is NOTHING stopping men from being the primary caregiver and getting those oodles of child support riches
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:49 PM
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I’m going to bet that women are not being “forward” with you when they find out you are attached, they just feel they don’t have to hold back to avoid “leading you on”. That’s what i do, in any case. Unless they are full on saying, hey sexy, let’s bang.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:46 AM
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Of course I wanted to bang them —- just not as often as they wanted to. And yeah, they all pouted and were shits when they didn’t get it; you can guess how that made me feel. This is pretty much the norm for heterosexuals, have you not read anything around here ? The guy who wouldn’t help out taught me that there’s no pleasing men sexually. You fuck them more, they want anal; you do anal, they want threesomes or you don’t care about them. If they don’t cheat, they expect the circus — and thats n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 09:05 PM
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I had a partner who I fucked a lot, so he would be happy. But when it came time to put in half an hour of cleaning a week? “That’s not how I want to spend my time”. I had another partner who would never communicate with his family. For any reason. And would then be mystified when they didn’t contact him about holidays, events and milestones. Yeah, I cracked and started doing it for him. Did I get a thank you for managing his family in addition to mine? I had/have friends with partners with vario…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 08:44 PM
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Life’s unfair. You wish you had an inbox full of hotties drooling over your dick; I wish I could travel solo/walk alone at night/not have to carry a weapon for my own safety/not screen my dates vigorously and tell people where I am going and with who before I meet up/not have to justify to a guy that “I’m not attracted to you” is sufficient reason to not see him again/not have to explain to my sister that she doesn’t have to do anal, no matter how much her boyfriend whines about it /not have exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 08:33 PM
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Pump and dump/fwb is a thing ya know. Or maybe if they don’t just want a fuck, they want a therapist/mommy/bangmaid. No thank you, I’m better off on my own. Sex on its own is not a draw for women, at least not anywhere near the rate that men want it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 08:18 PM
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Again, men are throwing themselves at us to fuck them. We don’t want to fuck them, we want a relationship and friendship. This is like if I were to say, “gosh, you can have so many platonic friends instead of people just trying to get into your pants! I’m so envious!” Would you feel bad for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 08:12 PM
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And I want to fuck 30 men a day as much as you do. I don’t want sex. I want a relationship, which will make sex appealing and worth it. Do you think my attitude is crazy unrealistic for a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 07:57 PM
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Women can buy all the oranges they want! Even if they aren’t fond of oranges and really want apples! Comrade, you can have any car you want... as long as it’s a black 1980 Yugo! Yes, I could fuck 30 men a day! And so could you! But I bet that you don’t want to, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 07:54 PM
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Men here claim over and over again that they sure can separate love and sex (and women cannot) which is why n count is irrelevant for men while of utmost importance for women. And they also say they will never be satisfied with a single person and will always want VARIETY. They even have a fancy name for it, “the Coolidge effect”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 07:52 PM
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People say that to avoid despair. I mean, with a 1:1 gender ratio it is technically true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 07:48 PM
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You just said “women will stick anything ‘in there’”. Was that bullshit? Did you mean their buttholes? I’m just going off your words
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 07:45 PM
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Again, men here claim they want “validation” and to be thought of as sexy and a winner. So, like, the opposite of socialism?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 07:35 PM
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O rly? I thought that the complaint was we aren’t throwing the pussy around enough. Our standards are too high! It’s not fair! 30% of men are sexless!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 07:33 PM
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No, I meant that in theory (like communism!) a true free sexual market sounds good as far as buying/selling goes. But the abuse that will eventually result (children/extreme violence, trafficking, coercion/blackmail) because, you know, human nature, makes it not worth the risk to women IMO. Sorry, I should just delete the above comment — I was sloppy there. The hostility of men towards sex workers just makes me feel that legalization will not protect them, at least in the current reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 07:29 PM
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Or men could... adapt. Improve. Overcome? Nah! That’s too hard and women suck! That’s pretty much what all the manosphere is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 07:01 PM
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I thought men will fuck ANYTHING?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 06:58 PM
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I find it weird that they insist that sex is validation on one hand, and then have no problem taking women’s rights away so they have no choices. Pick a lane, dudes! I thought women were the irrational/illogical ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 06:56 PM
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But they’re “just kidding” brah! It’s the “anger phase”! They can’t be held responsible!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 06:33 PM
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Of course. Poverty is the great leveler
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:22 AM
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This isn’t askReddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 02:39 AM
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Wtf? Is this due to MGTOW being banned? I prefer purge week, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 02:36 AM
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r/lostredditors For god’s sake, are the mods all dead?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 02:35 AM
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Well, have fun. Don’t clutter my inbox cuz I don’t care and I haven’t needed to use the block button yet
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 10:09 PM
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Like I said, you are free to pick this unlawful bone with whoever you want. You’re not gonna do it, though, cause arguing is easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 09:59 PM
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Yes, as others have pointed out, Reddit does in fact enforce policies unevenly. You can take it up with them if this is an issue for you, along with the tens of thousands of other people who have legitimate bones to pick. I’m sure your particular grievance is of utmost importance right? More than users/subs who actually are violating the law (felonies, even!) and providing evidence that they have done so? Or, you can petition the government to take Reddit to task for violating their terms of agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 09:54 PM
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Probably Reddit is going by the government definition of protected speech, because, ya know, they don’t wanna deal with the government. Who is probably telling them, “take care of your shit or we will do it for you”. This is the real world, dude, not a computer algorithm. Stuff is messy. A bunch of dead people trumps whining about sluts and whores any day of the week.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 09:40 PM
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Speech is protected until it results in death or bodily harm When a woman who is active in FDS or a feminism sub goes on a rampage or threatens a public figure with death or bodily harm, those subs will be quarantined or banned. I would not hold my breath if I were you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 09:06 PM
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When a woman who subscribes to FDS or a feminism sub goes on a rampage or threatens a public figure with death or bodily harm, those subs will be quarantined or banned. I would not hold my breath if I were you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 08:26 PM
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Nope, you’re not missing anything. It’s the men who are missing it. Probably due to laziness, lack of empathy, and thirst — the normal motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 08:18 PM
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3 when I’m not trying at all 4 if I level up for human interaction/work 5 if I really try and also turn on the charm. That is exhausting, so I obvs don’t do it often I’m not white, so I don’t know exactly how that affects it; too complicated to speculate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:07 PM
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Did you write this comment just to call her a braggart posting in bad faith? See? We can play this game too!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:03 PM
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“The blue pill” is “the status quo”, and the whole point of “the red pill” (like in the Matrix, you know, the movie where the concept comes from) is to argue that the status quo is a lie. So...no, I don’t think that is true. Why do I think this? Because if you push red pill adherents to defend their sweeping statements, they will quickly equivocate. “It’s just the anger phase, we’re not serious” “We’re just talking about sexual strategy, not all of life” “Red pill is just for men” “Red pill is j…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:58 PM
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You contradicted your own OP in this comment thread, so go off I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:54 PM
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So women stuck in abusive relationships with broke assholes, and who cling to them like a limpet, don’t exist? How strange. I see a ton of women on the relationship subs write desperate pleas to help them stay in these toxic relationships every day. I don’t think they are lying, because that sure is a humiliating thing to admit to. Also, the vast majority of men, like the majority of women, actually do have jobs. I’m sure the interwebs can help you look up the “real unemployment” of your country…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:46 PM
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If that was true, broke/unemployed men would never have sex. I assure you that is not the case, otherwise no one would complain about it. Even men, in this very sub, whine about women dating lowlife, cheating, abusive losers instead of good, high-earning, responsible men. Are you saying those men are lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:40 PM
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They expect sex in return. It’s called casual sex; I know you’ve heard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:37 PM
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Oh, I guess those guys I dated didn’t exist then. Or were actually post-op transsexuals. Who knew? Women, there are apparently a ton of us who have accidentally dated women and didn’t know it!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:32 PM
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Survival. If you don’t pick up on cues, you ded girl. I’m not saying they are “accurate” cues, mind you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:30 PM
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Men are the ones putting women in the “human being” box, so don’t blame us for that. I mean, if you tried to sell a woman as a relationship prospect to a man (and I have), all he would want to know is “is she hot?” If I tried to sell a dude to my friends, I would have to give a ton of information on his relationship history, education, political leanings, personality, interests, job, family, etc — “who” he is, as well as “what he does”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:26 PM
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Because some women are shallow? Just like some men only care about their partner’s appearance and nothing else?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:10 PM
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Exactly. Quite a few people in the investment, banking, legal, and sales industries (I’m sure there’s others) in large cities can do that easily before 30. If money is the only thing you have to offer women, the ones who will take you up on that will be..only in it for your money. What a concept?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:09 PM
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I do sympathize with men and their unquenchable sex drive. Just not enough to fuck one I’m not attracted to or tolerate rude, dangerous and selfish behavior. I already calibrate my behavior/appearance and limit my freedom of movement/choices to accommodate their desires. I’m a person, not a sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:55 PM
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Your OP is the equivalent of “a black guy mugged me once; how can I protect myself from black people?” And that’s how I treated it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 02:42 AM
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It sure looked like you were arguing in bad faith. You asked a lazy and leading question (“Are women worth anything beyond their vaginas?”) that has been bandied around forever, so much so that people are just pasting their previous answers. Do you really think that the single relationship you described is worth extrapolating from?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 02:06 AM
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Nope! I threw myself at him big time and wasn’t shy about it. He was either gay or bi and using me to try and make his best friend jealous. I had sex with him and everything
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:19 AM
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The vast majority of people can use their experience and imagination to answer your question on their own; is that beyond your abilities? I mean, I’m working with some 3rd graders right now doing visualization exercises and they have no problem with it. Or are you trying to do a “gotcha, women suck!” type move here?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 12:33 AM
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This was a good question; I’m saving it for future reference. Behold the dysfunction!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:20 PM
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Let me put it this way, I know you’ve read the responses to your post — that is how people are going to interpret it. People suck ok? They are competitive and self interested. Communism sounded humane in theory, the gender segregation of some extreme religions sounds potentially harmonious in theory. Reality and life are not tidy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 05:11 PM
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Like someone further down said, men don’t respect anything they stick their dicks in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 05:05 PM
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Oh, you were serious! Let’s examine the argument. “Men and women are not equal, therefore...?” Now, there are two main responses to that. 1) it is ok to treat them as legally, ethically, and morally different, regardless of individual rights 2) we should try and balance the difference but without infringing on individual autonomy Hmmm. I wonder how following each of these solutions will go?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 05:02 PM
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That’s where people are taking it, and I’m pretty sure you knew where it would go. You’re not the first and will not be the last. In fact, you do know that’s why it was removed, right? Even Reddit won’t accept pushing for gender Jim Crow
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 04:52 PM
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Ahahaha! Yes, very good! I knew the “separate but equal” argument would come up sooner or later !! I wish the sub would leave it up so everyone could bask in the glory! It’s not fair, men and women are “different”! Therefore we should be subject to different rights and laws!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 04:47 PM
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Exactly. Very succinct
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 04:43 PM
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I am fine; other women are not. That’s the problem to me. I’m not a psychopath who says I got mine, fuck you. I’m not predisposed to be unsympathetic to men, but their arguments are not convincing to me. Unfortunately for men, their fulfillment requires another person, and must therefore take into account that person’s autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 09:23 PM
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You can only get sexual attention from people you already know ? Or you can get only get sexual attention if you accept it? Please clarify. Because I’m pretty sure it’s not necessary for sexual interest to be reciprocal, and that you can get sexual offers from strangers. Or, perhaps I am a 1 or 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 09:05 PM
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Try zero. If you mean strangers minus the aforementioned homeless guys and construction workers. And that’s how it should be, with the way I dress and carry myself. I am not open to meeting or interacting with strangers and never have been. I have plenty of activities, jobs, friends and the like that I don’t need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:46 PM
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God, I know
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:11 PM
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Unfortunately, the cold logic does not carry over to my intellectual abilities :(
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:32 PM
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No trauma; I have always been introverted and on the insensitive/coldly logical side. My life has been “fair” but I have also worked to make it so. Possibly due to overbearing parents which made me adaptable instead of sheltered. Here’s another thing — I never believed things that were preached to me without referencing reality first.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:23 PM
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I also don’t act or dress to attract attention, just to fit in and not stick out. I am introverted and have resting bitch face, or at least “resting blank face”. I avoid people who look/seem dangerous or annoying. Most people will not bother you, male or female, if you do this, because people are fucking lazy and risk avoidant. Unless you’re counting whistles from homeless people and construction workers as “attention”. I do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:13 PM
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“I’m doing what nature makes me do” is pretty much never a good reason to do anything. Nature wants you to: Eat fat and sugar until you explode Live in family groups of 20-100 in constant conflict with your neighbors Die when your body begins to fail physically at the age of 35-40 Nothing about human society in its current form is “natural” — it is based completely on suppression of our biological blueprint. You think women/men are shits? They’re nothing compared to that ruthless bitch Mother Na…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:08 PM
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I believe it. Look at smaller, closed, hierarchical societies. Rape has been documented as very prevalent in the Yanomami, the Sami, Papuan tribes, the Pitcairn islanders, most religious sects, many Native American tribes, etc. There’s a recent article out on rape within Amish families. Workers, servants, slaves, and family members are raped all over the world today. Wherever there are power imbalances, there is rape and coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:58 PM
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This is the root of all the problems. We don’t need to have pills if people just accept and work around this simple fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:52 PM
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No, it’s that “women” means “women who make my dick hard under normal circumstances” — i.e., young, attractive and sociable. I’m not young now, but even when I was, I was still of average attractiveness at best and trust me — you are invisible to most men. Which I did and still do like. This is why I feel no sympathy to people here whining about being unloved and unwanted. I’ve gotten little to no sexual attention my whole life and somehow I still have people who like to be around me, and from t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:45 PM
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None of them were jerks/assholes/abusive because I wouldn’t do that. Only one of them, however, was I all gaga over, and that crazy fixation only developed after a few months. Thankfully, he was not that into me and was also sexually confused, because he could have done/coerced me into anything. He was, strangely, the least attractive of all my partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 12:16 AM
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I have no problem with either sex lusting after teens. Acting on that lust, however, puts you on par with sickos that fuck animals and the disabled. Teens are dumb and naive, and perving/grooming/touching/fucking them is preying on their stupidity and ignorance
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 02:14 AM
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Men who ask for custody (shared) almost always get it. How many are actually doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 10:10 PM
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Women don’t have the luxury of being blinded by lust — it’s too physically risky. It’s about affection and validation. Look at all those relationship/abuse subs. Go through some of the traditional courtship rituals (lovebombing, etc) and some women will stick around for an astounding level of disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 09:58 PM
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Oh, and what do we get in exchange for empty balls and full stomach, eh? Money and 5 min of jackhammering? I got a job and a vibrator....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 09:48 PM
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There would be few marriages if both or even one of the partners had to be “strongly” let alone “maximally” attracted to each other Everyone settles, ya whiners. Even hot people
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 09:18 PM
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Not attracted to them despite other compatibility Or Shitty behavior despite attraction Or Not attracted AND shitty behavior You know, like the vast majority of women in the world, despite what the men here believe. This isn’t rocket surgery or brain science.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:36 PM
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Cheating bad, not cheating good Also, frequenting low quality/sketchy sex workers who were probably abused
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 03:13 AM
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Well, YA dystopia fiction is usually overwrought, simplistic and self-centered. Like the teen reader it is aimed at.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 12:49 AM
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The relationships in my life make this place look like a YA dystopia
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 11:54 PM
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As a woman, these answers are depressing. I’m surprised so many depend on their partner/SO to make them feel secure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 11:14 PM
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And the same applies to women! Equal dissatisfaction!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:55 PM
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Ooh, ooh, we can play this game too! Men’s need for endless sexual variety makes everyone miserable. They can never be happy with just one women, they always want more. “The most beautiful woman in the world always has a guy who is tired of fucking her”. They want sex, which is risky and often unfulfilling for women, way more than is necessary to reproduce, often as a source of validation and entertainment. They get bored with their partner and want different and more extreme sex acts. They want…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:30 PM
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Men are free to become primary caretakers, so I don’t feel bad about them paying child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 04:53 PM
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Again, please point to where feminists say the “incel” stuff. There is the femcel sub; I don’t see calls for sex slaves, suicide, government intervention, taking away legal/human rights and the ability to function in society for men, and calls for violence against men. If that stuff is there, it takes a pretty deep dive to find it. And nowhere in the past have women perpetuated any of those things against men (denying autonomy and choice); men are the people who oppress other men, not women. Hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 03:03 AM
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That’s weird, the definition of feminism seems to be about equal rights and opportunity. You know, to vote, buy/rent/inherit property, have personal and medical autonomy, hold jobs and such. I didn’t know it was about letting women threaten men with bodily harm for not having sex with them, forbidding men from divorcing, restricting who men date and marry, and demanding that the government provide women with husbands and male prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 02:37 AM
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I didn’t say child support was rare, and it’s not meant to be paid to “the woman” but to the “primary childcare provider”. Who could be male. And the standard is generally accepted to be to “provide a stable environment for the child post divorce” not “to fuck daddy over”. Intent matters ya know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 02:26 AM
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When is rage and hatred ever considered acceptable within a society? Incels should get special “fuck society” passes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 02:23 AM
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I don’t care about the “sexlessness epidemic” because male sexuality is fundamentally unreasonable and unsatisfiable — men will be pissed no matter what happens. It would be reasonable/satisfiable if the gender ratio was 100:1 or 1000:1, or, even better, 10,000:1.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 02:20 AM
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Alimony is awarded in 10% of cases, and usually only when the woman hasn’t worked during the marriage. Now, if you are begrudging “child support” that is, you know, ostensibly for the child, that would be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 02:12 AM
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Incels are hated for what they say, not for their sexlessness/virginity. There is also another sub on reddit called “ForeverAlone” (currently at 100,000 subscribers) they do not talk about rape, violence and misogyny so they are pretty much unknown. There is also “DeadBedrooms” (250,000 subscribers) which also discusses sexlessness; it too has never drawn much attention. I wonder why...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 02:09 AM
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Yes, once something is legalized, it will no longer be as desired. It will be the illegal experiences (violence, children & infants, animals) that will become sought after. Look at porn for where that will go. There will be more casual, next-door-neighbor sex workers, but also more of the depraved stuff to feed bored dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 01:57 AM
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Amazon exists
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 01:51 AM
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I can’t believe I bothered replying to you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 01:49 AM
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I also don’t get “promote monogamy”. Monogamy is the default pretty much everywhere. Even in Muslim countries. Weddings and engagements are huge deals in most cultures, probably the largest event/party held in the honor of an individual milestone in life. And what is “enforced monogamy”? Divorce is hard or impossible to get? Slutshaming? That kinda already exists. I don’t think anyone in modern society doesn’t know that divorce is extremely expensive at the very least and involves (ew!) lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 01:38 AM
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That’s not my opinion. But if you read around this sub, that seems to be the consensus. N counts are a huge topic. Men want endless sexual variety Men don’t want to be rejected Men want every woman they fuck to be a virgin These would be reasonable demands —- if the gender ratio was 17,000 women for every man. But it’s not, alas. Most women would prefer around one relationship per lifetime, so who are the ones being unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 01:29 AM
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The correct number of partners for a woman to have is 0
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:07 PM
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It’s sad that destruction is more appealing to dudes than improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:24 PM
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Ok Korea, China and Singapore are all having the same issues. This is a sizeable portion of the world population
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:08 PM
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That doesn’t seem to be happening in East Asia
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:01 PM
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Women will surely love and think men are worth marrying and fucking then!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:18 PM
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Please, I invite you to call your female SO a “filthy whore” or push her around outside the bedroom. I’m sure that will go down well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 06:43 PM
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Fantasies are best when they subvert reality. That is precisely what makes them appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 06:36 PM
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All these comments here are proving the point. “No! I don’t wanna give a shit! It’s pointless! I don’t wanna try! I’m gonna just give up!” So alpha and attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:30 PM
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Awesome proposals, guys! Unload negativity on women! Restrict their choices! That will definitely make them feel positively and horny towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:24 PM
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Exactly, entire movements (the alt right, etc) have risen up because men can’t take women being critical of them. It’s just a joke, brah! I’m shocked that he didn’t use “panties in a twist” or “don’t worry your little head, doll face” somewhere in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:48 PM
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I’ve spent a lifetime hearing what men really think about women. When you look like an immigrant and/or cleaning/wait staff (or just someone not important), people feel free to let all that ugliness out. It has evaporated any sympathy I have. When I hear men laughing about fucking teens and babies, complaining about how their amiable wives are stupid and ugly, making rape jokes, hating on children, describing and drooling over painful sex acts, not even mentioning the homophobia, racism, anti-im…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:24 AM
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We get the benefit of the doubt because we aren’t raping, thieving and murdering, and do thankless shitwork including caring and nurturing. We earned it by not being violent and destructive. Who’s causing and fighting in all those countless wars? Who runs gangs and illegal operations? Do you think I have weapons and a security system at home to protect myself from women? Please, go ahead and walk into any police station and tell the officers how costly, dangerous and menacing women are. I’m sure…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:12 AM
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Parents hide all sorts of things from their kids, duh! Do you think my friends’ kids know that they do drugs, swear, have sex toys and fetishes, gamble, listen to gangster rap, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:36 AM
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“Life on easy mode” amirite!?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:23 AM
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Aren’t you happy about it? Women are making an effort! I thought we all just wanted to lay back and do nothing...except educate ourselves...and work...and have a nice lifestyle...and take care of our bodies, minds, communities, friends and families...and birth and raise the next generation...and take care of the older generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 02:12 AM
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Men could change that. I hope they do, unless “change” means “only validation, no self improvement”. I’ve heard a lot of guys go to therapy and then quit when the therapist says “maybe deigning to wash a dish every now and then might make your gf less annoyed with you?” I mean, to my knowledge couples counselors and sex therapists usually tell women to suck it up and just fuck your partner for the sake of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:47 AM
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Women tend to make up the vast majority of therapy patients; I wonder why men can’t sign themselves up? “Well, my partner will lose respect for me” — that’s why you outsource, duh!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:33 AM
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No, this is ridiculous. Women have been wearing cosmetics for centuries. And men used to as well. People still fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:14 AM
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Any time I think I’ve found a decent dude, something lewd, insensitive, bigoted or selfish eventually worms its way out of his mouth. At least I can say no ragrets at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:08 AM
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Gods, what whining. Ok, men and women are actually having sex! But it’s not sexy ENOUGH! There’s not enough desire! Every encounter must the best and most feely sex ever! Every man must feel like a king! Women, there’s no satisfying dudes; just give up. I feel like my standards are pretty normal for a woman — be mildly attractive, quid pro quo/pull your weight, and don’t be an asshole. I don’t want to be expected to pull a circ du soleil in bed or be a therapist or a mommy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:02 AM
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I am dubious of the claim that initial attraction can be negotiated — because outward appearance drives every initial encounter with a stranger. But subsequent interactions can be affected
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:12 AM
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I’m sure you initially approach women based solely on their inner, unseen qualities and not at all on their outer wrapping mmm? But I do believe that both sexes can negotiate attraction somewhat
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:59 AM
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Well we are all over 30 and I didn’t want to list the things that require some money like flipping houses or motorcycles or classic cars or being in a band What is worth your time then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 12:42 AM
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Ok, but most of their activities are well within reach of non professionals. Rec league sports or clubs are not expensive. Volunteering at habitat for humanity, shelters, museums, airports, libraries, political events and special events you have an interest in is free, and you can learn skills there. There’s free performances, book clubs, events/classes at many colleges and universities are affordable...even basics can be interesting if you bother to talk to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 12:38 AM
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True, most of them aren’t. How many people in first world countries do manual labor though?And what is considered sufficiently “strenuous”? Does that only encompass physical exertion? I know a few surgeons who do 12-hour cardiac operations, lawyers that pull 15-18 hour days consecutively, theatre directors who stay on site for a week nonstop — is that not hard core enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 12:25 AM
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The people I know are professionals with kids in a super expensive city. Somehow these people pulling 10-hour days still manage to enjoy the arts, travel, dine out, volunteer/run charities, manage/facilitate their children’s interests AND have their own hobbies on top of that. And we also find time to get together and discuss all these things we are doing, recommend things, exchange tips, etc. There are endless things to talk about
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 12:13 AM
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Again, the red pill world view states that women are irrational children who like playing with fire and being selfish. So, being attracted to bad things (criminality, violence, destructiveness, negativity) is a manifestation of their immaturity and illogic. That’s why they talk about the “dark triad” traits as if it were some universal attractant. This plays into the victim mentality that it’s women who drive the negative aspects of dating, by choosing or pursuing sociopathic men. For people lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:59 PM
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That is not what the discussion a few weeks ago seem to conclude. If a women really cares about a man, she will put all her desires and feelings to the side and do whatever you want. This seems awful to me — the person who supposedly “loves” you and “cares” about you wants you to engage in acts you doesn’t enjoy so you can feel like a “conqueror” or something? Wow, sign me up! Jim Jeffries put it best “Men love anal....because you hate it”. Suffering = love, or at least winning
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:53 PM
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O rly? Incels were all about “government girlfriends” and “sex charities so we don’t go crazy and shoot up places”. Even here there’s a lot of fantasizing about societal collapse so that men can do what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:48 PM
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A few weeks (months?) ago there was a bunch of threads about this exact topic. Just like n-counts, your past sexual acts are very important and relevant to what a man expects from you. Anal for one means anal for all, or you don’t really love a man. It doesn’t matter how you feel about your history or sex. Men have no problem putting their feelings above their partners
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:44 PM
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Do a search for this subreddit. These questions have been asked multiple times over the years
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:41 PM
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They do it to make the argument that women are bad (for “liking” bad things). There’s a point for setting up this world view
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:31 PM
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I think selection bias is operating here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:29 PM
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Yes, seriously. I’m living my life; want to join? Sounds like a great plan....unless your “life” isn’t that interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:28 PM
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It’s hyperbole. Also, if women like bad people => women are bad too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:24 PM
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Maybe this is more an online thing. There’s a lot of interactions there which certainly seem like — oh, you swiped on me; therefore you must want to see or talk about my dick! Or in real life, how confused some guys are with rejection — I wanna bone you, what do you mean you’re not down with it? You were ‘looking’ at me! Sure seems like there’s a lot of confusion over assumptions and communication. Tinder is not Grindr
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:18 PM
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Once men are attracted, that’s all that matters. I don’t really think they ask themselves, ok, I like her —- but will interacting with her be pleasant or interesting? Am I likely to get an orgasm out of sex with her? Any signs that she is mentally unstable, pushy or violent? These are all questions that women usually need to answer before they will have sex with a dude, hence the “getting to know you” part of seduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:55 PM
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Well you are just superior then. Good for you. I think you should shit loudly on everyone who likes it though, so they know
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 04:27 PM
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News flash — doing stuff is more fun than not doing stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 04:19 PM
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You think it’s boring. There are entire industries catering to people who think the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 04:18 PM
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That would be fine if all it addressed was getting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 03:23 AM
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For men, at least No, I’m not hating on men. I am using their own words. You don’t sex the men, then you don’t love the men, that’s what they say over and over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 01:46 AM
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Well, you cited it as proof that married people are NOT happy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:27 PM
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If she’s looking for a boyfriend then no. “Hey, you’re a really good friend, but I’m not interested in dating”. Totally fine, right? They should be happy, they have a friend!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:23 PM
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Are these swingers unhappy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:09 PM
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This is the thing that kills me. Why are you guys all upset that your female partner doesn’t treat you like a jacked druglord or, I don’t know, a firefighter, when you ARE in fact a system manager or account representative? I sure as hell am not upset that I’m not treated like an underwear model or Instagram influencer because I’m not! And if I did want to be treated like a hot chick, I would try to become hot, not sit around on the internet and complain about it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:03 PM
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Yay, finally an answer that makes sense! This ties back into the discussion a few weeks ago that if a woman has ever done any sexual act, regardless of if she liked it or not, she had better grit her teeth and endure it for you or SHE DONT LOVE YOU. Love is pain and sacrifice and PUTTING OUT above all else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 09:56 PM
2

I feel like he learned his lesson? And hope he won’t backslide?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 01:53 AM
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That’s what the user who replied to me said. I didn’t choose to hang out with him
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 08:39 PM
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If the only way men can be happy is by doling out violence and oppression, then I will have no issue with humanity going extinct. Unfortunately for you, most people in the world have not come to that conclusion yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:18 PM
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Porn expectations. Violence and abusive behavior. Dissatisfaction and depression. I don’t expect men to be happy about it. But, you know, you can’t always get what you wa-ahnt It sucks that most men will not live their sexual dream, but unfortunately their sexuality involves another person. I feel that my sexual ideal is equally unattainable but I’m not getting pissy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:00 PM
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Because it affects my life and the men in my life. And other women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:55 PM
2

Really? I think you are commenting in bad faith if you don’t see all the whining about standards and looksmatch in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 04:33 PM
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I know! And all day I cackle and rub my hands with glee thinking about all the pain and suffering I’m going to cause by denying it to men! That’s what all us women do! We’re evil!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 04:20 PM
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How dare they withhold that life-giving pussy from men who deserve it!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 04:15 PM
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I am the safe option, and so are all the first wives that I know
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 03:48 AM
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I “police” male sexuality to preserve my bodily autonomy and integrity; I certainly don’t care who or what they fuck/fantasize about fucking unless someone is getting hurt
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 03:06 AM
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Are you upset that women don’t find you RAWR? If not, congratulations, you are not a hypocrite!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 03:01 AM
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Men here talk about how it’s worthless to be in a relationship unless you are the best/most attractive lay she’s ever had. So, uh, by definition, “average” is not the best. The favorite solution proposed by men here is “let’s restrict female autonomy so that little or no comparisons are possible, so that average becomes the best”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 02:54 AM
1

Please let me know where any city would like to house a large number of single men, many of whom have mental illness and substance abuse issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 02:50 AM
1

WE SHOULD BE SO GRATEFUL MEN AREN’T TAKING OUR RIGHTS AWAY AND THAT THEY MADE EVERYTHING EVER AMIRITE
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 02:47 AM
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Fine with me. I got stuff to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 02:44 AM
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Obscenity aspect aside, women don’t need to display either of those things to inspire lust
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 02:36 AM
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Exactly. The sex act in isolation is not very satisfying for most women, hence why we aren’t super motivated to engage in it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 02:32 AM
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“Why should men be overjoyed that some woman who isn't even attracted to him will saddle up with him just to use his him?” Why should women be overjoyed that some man who doesn’t care about her personality, experiences and feelings will use her body for his own sexual gratification?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 02:29 AM
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Then why don’t dating apps let guys post their dicks if that is the thing that inspires lust?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 02:23 AM
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“Dedication” makes women lustful & horny? Probably just as much as “agreeable” makes men pop a boner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 02:22 AM
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Ok. So how many men on here think they inspire this RAWR?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 01:31 AM
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There won’t be any good faith answers because there are none
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 01:19 AM
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That is a misrepresentation of the OKCupid study. But it’s not surprising that this “statistic” is flung around everywhere if it validates this victim mentality. I have even seen dudes called out on this misinterpretation rebut with, “well it feels real, so that’s what I believe.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:24 AM
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“Except it’s only pushy and obnoxious when they guy isn’t attractive” This is so untrue. Anytime I find myself even somewhat attracted to a man (which is not ideal since I am not single) in real life, all I have to do is hang around them long enough. At some point, without fail, the man will either: Say something perverted or rude. Say something bigoted. Act selfishly or inconsiderately. Success! Attraction instantly torpedoed! Maybe dudes don’t understand this because once they want to smash, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:03 AM
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I don’t know any person who would think weak = positive/good trait, so my first point stands. And everybody settles. At different times, for different things. I’m sure even the sultan of Brunei hasn’t had his every desire fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 11:32 PM
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I’ll say it again; the people who have happy, successful, satisfied lives..... are too damn busy to be whining on the interwebs!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 11:25 PM
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Then why is betabux considered a bad thing here and in the pill-related subs? If you’re not an alpha fucks, why get upset about being “settled for”? Do all the male posters here consider themselves Chads who are being denied their rightful due?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 09:30 PM
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It’s not a straw man. Sexy people get treated sexily. Stable people get treated like accountants.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 09:21 PM
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Yes, and they all complain when they are treated “fairly”. Why won’t my wife jump on top of me like I’m a square-jawed fighter pilot after 20 years of low-effort marital cohabitation and multiple kids? I was LIED TO and SETTLED FOR!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 09:02 PM
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Exactly. If you want to be pursued and sexually desired, you have to put yourself out there and be...sexy. Do you think those frat bro’s are getting laid because they are studying public policy or social work and hanging out in the library?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 08:55 PM
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Really? I would think that all these women who “do it regularly” are in fact overwhelmingly dating straight men and not LBGT people; ergo, men are also getting to “do it regularly”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 08:48 PM
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I contend that lots of average guys are jerks too, not just chad. Just browse them relationship subs for the horror stories like “my bf won’t bathe” or “my bf doesn’t lift a finger around the house”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 03:57 AM
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My fate doesn’t bother me. I did a little something called “lowering my standards” and everything worked out great.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 03:53 AM
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Life is tough. I wish I could be a self-centered, lazy, vapid hot chick and have men fawning and scraping for a crumb of attention from me (ok, not really, but you get my point), but guess what? I’m not hot and/or charismatic enough to warrant that treatment, and it is totally fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 03:47 AM
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And so do men! Equality !
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 03:43 AM
3

Some might say if the outcome is the same then what’s the difference? I can easily see the bitter posts. But if you are enjoying yourself then by all means indulge
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:57 AM
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Well, what will you think of them if they don’t fuck and/or date you? Will they be super cool then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:32 AM
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I hate to pull this out, but I have done this in real life, and it has been most instructive. When I have a gender based debate with men, I ask them, “what if you woke up tomorrow, and you were still straight, but half the men were gay? And not just half of men, the bigger, stronger, more aggressive half. How would your life be different?” Boy, do they get mad at me attempting to put them in our shoes! I don’t do this often, but if you ever want some entertainment with people you don’t need to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:10 AM
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Men are thirstier than women. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 03:03 AM
2

So, the rise of internet-based entertainment, including gaming and freely-available porn, has had no appreciable effect on people staying in and not socializing — it’s just those slutty slutty sluts slutting it around?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 02:55 AM
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So free love, the 60s and 70s, even the 50s blood type study indicating a sizeable minority of babies being illegitimate — that sort of sexual environment — is dwarfed by the hedonism today? This all sounds a bit hyperbolic to me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 02:08 AM
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I don’t understand what you mean? Is it the most attractive man, the man who is most sexually compatible/skilled, or the man who is most compatible overall who “ruins” a women for other men, in your opinion? Because those are usually not all the same man, you know. Also, this amounts to the rapunzel solution — lock her up so she doesn’t have the ability to compare you to anything else. Sounds awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:39 AM
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So, women never cheated or desired another man before the internet existed?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:38 AM
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You are not a hypocrite. But there are an awful lot of dudes that think that their sexual desires trump those of the human being they wish to inflict those desires on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:30 AM
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So your answer to the OP is yes, men are aware that women are not attracted to them and should therefore bypass their pesky sexual autonomy through various forms of coercion, i.e., the tradcon solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:24 AM
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Fair enough. I just get annoyed at the hypocrisy regarding attraction and desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:17 AM
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The OP was about sexual attraction. Hypergamy is not about sexual attraction, unless you really think that women masturbate to the thought of financial stability and compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:10 AM
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So, sex but no relationships would be better than lowering your sex standards for a relationship? Not snarky, I am just trying to clarify.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:08 AM
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How would you feel if you could get people to have sex with you, but as soon as they did they wanted nothing to do with you? Would that be better?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:00 AM
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Exactly. “Let’s make it hard for women to not be dependent on men” will not make us hot for them. For all the talk of wanting women to desire them, a lot of men seem more focused on the opposite. It reminds me of a post a couple of months ago where someone asked the men here why a woman would want them, and very few could answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:56 AM
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I would think the average prostitute is somewhat above “I want to close my eyes and pretend I’m somewhere else” — I mean, isn’t that why they exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:51 AM
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I just adjusted my standards accordingly — you know, lower. Way lower, at least looks-wise; higher for character and personality. And since men claim they will fuck anything, well, wouldn’t it be easier for them to do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:41 AM
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Again, that is enforced betabux. I find it weird that you would support something considered anathema to the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:34 AM
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Every person (male or female) I’ve been attracted to on sight has been way out of my league so I never tried. This is a fact and causes me no discomfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:31 AM
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Than why the aversion to sex workers? Is it really better to close your eyes and fuck someone hideous than pay a better looking professional? If the point is some biological discharge and not feelings, like so many dudes here claim, why does it matter that “she wants you”?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:28 AM
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That will not make a woman hot for you, just for your resources. And isn’t that considered the worst thing ever by men here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:26 AM
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Thanks for explaining that my own experiences, which match up with the advent of widespread internet porn AND are widely echoed throughout media and other communications, are misguided and wrong. I am not unhappy or unfulfilled in my sex life, and did find partners who were considerate. But I feel bad for all the women I have read about and personally talked to who have resigned themselves to “the way it is”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:28 AM
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What do you think is more likely to affect sexual expectations and desires — vague religious beliefs that are not held by the vast majority of the population OR media which is consumed almost ubiquitously? I haven’t had many sexual partners, but the change between the 90s and the 00s was jarring, to say the least. Spitting, slapping, choking, degrading names, anal/anal play, threesomes, constant changing of positions, trouble staying hard or finishing...and the worst part was that eventually ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:09 AM
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So all those people (including children) who talk about being coerced, trafficked, raped, drugged, etc...they are all lying and no harm was done to them? It’s not ALL of it, no, but what percentage of it is ok then? Please, go on pornhub and do a top video search. How many of those videos show degradation and at least the outward form of assault and abuse? Are you willing to state that all of those were consensual acts? If not, how much damage is acceptable to getting your rocks off? I am old en…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:33 AM
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The creation of erotica does not involve another person, ergo it does not harm another human being. Like I said right in my comment, I am against the physical abuse, rape or coercion of ANY gender/orientation in service to the gratification of ANY gender/orientation
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 11:31 PM
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If being against the abuse, rape and coercion of any gender in service to any sexuality is anti-male...then I guess I am anti-male? Not to mention the effects it has on its consumers?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:58 PM
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Not treat them like a sex vending machine — you know, basic respect? Don’t just walk up whenever you feel like, squeeze a few body parts and expect us to say “yes, take me now” Seriously, I don’t expect gifts, dates or courtship bullshit — just considering my feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 09:18 PM
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Having grown up in a majority Asian area, I find Asian men the most physically attractive. Unfortunately, cultural issues were often a deal breaker with them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 08:59 PM
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It is depressing that living our lives and minding our own business is seen as an affront by a lot of men. How dare we not acknowledge their unwanted thirst! And if we are wary of interacting with men due to our own experiences (and being blamed for “leading him on”), it is seen as malicious and cruel, just for protecting ourselves. Can’t win, ladies. I remember several threads here asking men if women should be nicer to them/compliment them more and the overwhelming response from dudes was “no,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:32 PM
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Both sexes play the field in their prime. Goose, gander, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 01:32 AM
7

Why not Zoidberg?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 12:58 AM
1

Whenever there is discussion of sex workers here, or anywhere on Reddit really, money is probably the least concern, after safety, diseases and ESPECIALLY ego/validation. That is what I just don’t understand — if women are so trash, why is validation from them (via sex, not a relationship) so important?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:31 PM
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Not a sex doll, a sex worker
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:07 PM
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Then why are so many guys averse to getting one? They whinge and whinge about bitches and how they suck but are aghast if you suggest they get guaranteed sex with a woman who’s probably hotter than they could normally pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:41 PM
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Blacklisting is a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 07:35 PM
1

Then, sex worker. Or sex doll.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 07:24 PM
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This is why VR and sex bots are needed. Men like this want a woman-shaped sex toy. They don’t want a human to have relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 07:24 PM
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I think your (male) friends will be sympathetic with venting, up to a point, since unrequited feelings are universal. You don’t have to bottle it up. Or have you already done that and are in danger of going overboard? The only thing that ever worked for me was no contact, time, and distractions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:13 PM
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You’re just going to have to make yourself hate her for not fucking you. Isn’t this what you are fishing for permission to do? Well, you have my permission — hate the bitch for not liking you back if it makes you feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 05:58 PM
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Sex AND service. That mammoth carcass isn’t going to dress and cook itself. Throughout history, women have been captive mommy bangmaids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 05:53 PM
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That’s it, all the pills can shut down now. This is all that needs be said
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 04:17 AM
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You should make your own sub then. Because I can feel my brain cells dying and screaming to get off my lawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 07:50 AM
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