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42519984251998/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 08:34 PM
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Purge week!42519984251998/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:20 PM
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Purge week!42519984251998/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:11 PM
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According to fbi criminal victimization surveys the vast majority of men name male perpetrators for violence, women are more likely to be victims then perpetrators of violent acts the opposite is true for men. The crime victimization survey has a sample size of 135,000 people, again if women are more violent then men, then why do men name male perpetrators at a much higher rate then they do female? Shouldn’t it be 50/50?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 03:17 AM
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Uh nowhere in the study does it say most women murdered by their partner were abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 03:07 AM
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Women can easily get over their weak body strength by using guns the great equalizer yet they still commit as many mass shootings as men. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 02:53 AM
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Then why 90% of homicides and mass shootings committed by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 02:52 AM
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That’s sounds like a personality disorder they developed after being abused as a child. That is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 05:41 PM
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The same studies say that women with 2 sexual partners are more likely to divorce then ones with 3-9 sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 08:57 PM
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Sexual history is not a large enough of a variable that effected the results. As another researcher who didn’t control for sexual history still found the same results: So, in my model I used women in their first marriages only, and controlled for marriage duration, education, race, Hispanic ethnicity, and nativity/citizenship. This is similar to models I used in this (shock) peer-reviewed paper. Here are the predicted probabilities of divorce, in one year, holding those control variables constan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 08:41 PM
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48 percent of those who marry before the age of 18 are likely to divorce within 10 years, compared to 25 percent of those who marry after the age of 25. 44. 60 percent of couples married between the age of 20 -25 will end in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 07:39 PM
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Younger women are more able to love unconditionally, older women are cold calculating monsters. Is that why young couples have the highest divorce rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 07:07 PM
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I said that men probably prefer younger (teenage) girls to older girls Ok so would be ok if your hypothetical teenage daughter dated was pursued romantically by an older man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 10:20 PM
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I have a theory, when men on here claim that men unlike women are less picky because they find a larger percentage of women attractive, by ‘women’ they mean women ages 18(perhaps younger) to maybe 25, not women in general. I am not here to criticize anyone on this front, but I think guys should be more honest about what age group of women you are talking about as that would make many conversations on here easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 09:37 PM
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Well are you going to answer the question? Since teenage girls by your own opinion are preferable romantic partners for most men versus women over 20, would you be ok with a grown man pursuing a romantic relationship with your teenage nieces?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:42 PM
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So you would be ok with a grown man pursuing a romantic relationship with one your underage nieces?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 07:10 PM
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She has large eyes, a round face, big forehead, small nose those are all neotenous traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 04:11 PM
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Actually people are suggesting that women look more masculine now than ever a Really? Because when I look at older pictures it looks like the women were more hard faced in the past compared to today.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 04:09 PM
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That’s not really a good example of a neotenous face, someone like Christina Ricci is probably a better example to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 04:04 PM
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Popular sexual fetishes by gender: https://twitter.com/_AlastairX_/status/1289586915960688643?s=20
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:12 PM
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Dude, just go date your legal young women, stop making neurotic posts about it every other day, nobody is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 05:22 PM
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Well there is a correlation between height and intelligence so maybe those women are just thinking about their future kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 05:08 PM
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-let alone a females. Why I am not surprised that you post in the subreddit r/IncelsWithoutHate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:55 PM
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The whole women lie about their sexual experience talking point on here is rooted in their desire to make themselves more innocent since a high n count in women is seen as more negative then it is in men. However, there is no such double standard when it comes to bestiality, so what reason is there for women to lie more and for men to be more honest? It’s not like bestiality is considered acceptable if men do it the same way promiscuity is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:55 PM
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Sex with an animal is taboo for both men and women, so the fact that men admit to it more says something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:47 PM
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There have been cases of rape victims having to share custody of their children with their rapist too: A convicted sex offender who raped a Michigan woman when she was only 12 years old has now been granted joint custody of his victim’s 8-year-old son, according to a report. Christopher Mirasolo, 27, was awarded joint legal custody — and shared parenting time — with his now-21-year-old victim after DNA testing established the child’s paternity late last month, the Detroit News reported. https://…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:46 PM
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Majority of bestiality is committed by men: Studies published between 2002 and 20161,16,17 indicated that most individuals who self-reported having sex with animals were white males ranging in age from 16 to 78 years, most of whom were gainfully employed and were, or had been, in an intimate human relationship. Animals most often chosen as sexual partners were dogs, horses, goats, cats, farm animals, and fowl, followed by wildlife and exotics. http://jaapl.org/content/early/2019/05/16/JAAPL.0038…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:36 PM
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My first source is literally from 2011 and you didn’t address my second point that the statistics only look at parents who even bother to try to get child support, many do no not so the statistics are misleading. Only 50% of custodial parents which includes divorce parents have any type child support agreement, while 50% do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 10:45 AM
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Huh? According to your own link the majority of custodial parents don’t receive full payment, and by single mothers we are talking never married mothers custodial includes divorced parents. Only one third of single mothers receive any child support, and the average for this is about $300 a month. https://books.google.com/books?id=hnipAZkbVi8C&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=%22+Only+one+third+of+single+mothers+receive+any+child+support”&source=bl&ots=JABeUWXl28&sig=ACfU3U0JYzFxtXSBMNCcvfUdGf6z8mo9WA&hl=en&s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 09:29 PM
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Who would thought that expecting not to be assaulted daily on the job makes you entitled?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 07:40 PM
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The majority of single mothers don’t receive child support payments. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 07:38 PM
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Men regularly have drunk men assault them to the point they have to stay at from work for a couple days to recover?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:46 PM
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Not just dangerous because of infection which one shouldn’t take lightly in view of the COVID pandemic but also workplace violence often at the hands of patiences. But really, you are just gatekeeping what’s a real job and deciding that low income female dominated professions are easy and life on easy mode despite the poor pay and benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:38 PM
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So this about you gate keeping what constitutes a ‘real’ job, even if all women in those occupation make average to below average wages and nursing/health aides being statistically one of the most dangerous jobs in America. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/news/2018/10/04/the-most-dangerous-job-in-america-it-aint-what.amp.html
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:14 PM
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You grew up working class yet you don’t know that the leading occupation for women are pink collar jobs such as nursing, cashier register, waitress, house cleaner and secretarial work, not cushy well paying office jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 05:55 PM
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Holy shit are you clueless. Yes most single mothers live in luxury yet somehow they have the highest poverty rate. I love how you think most women work cushy office jobs when the majority of Americans work in jobs that require them to stand and walk the majority of the time, it really shows what type of class bubble you are in and how clueless you are about lives of working class folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 05:31 PM
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Except the study I linked is not self reported. In the study, the researchers looked at U.S. Census data from 2,800 counties in all 50 states, focusing on the relationship between each county's gender ratio (the number of men relative to women) and certain markers of family stability that researchers commonly use in research like this, such as marriage rates and the percentage of households with children who were headed by single women. For example, the data showed that a county composed of 55 p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 10:17 PM
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Yeah, you guys statistically are a small minority of church goers, so finding your female equivalent is going be tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:38 PM
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Yet there is no shortage of single moms, 30+ leftover women, etc Well the people who regularly attend church are more likely to be older which includes 30+ year old women and women with children who are more likely to be older then women are childless. Seems to me women go to church to find beta males mostly now as a "social" interaction with their "religious leader" telling them to "man up and marry" them. You seem to be assuming that the men who attend churches aren’t in the same boat. It’s li…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:27 PM
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Didn’t you just make a thread on this topic? Imao, I have no idea why you expected to find a bunch of single women in their twenties at churches, religiosity among young people is at historic lows, this well known, churches are mostly going to be filled with older people. Even my sect of Christianity (Mormon) where there is a lot of pressure to continue practicing and going to church most young people abandon the practice after they move out their parents house.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:10 PM
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Right so you are just going ignore my research which points to your assumptions being wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 05:22 AM
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Did you read the article? When men out number women, women have a higher market power in dating game thus the female imperative rains sumpreme but the opposite is true when women outnumber men. If it was truly male desire to settle down and marry early and women were the ones ruining that because they wanted to sleep around we would see that in gender ratios where women outnumber men, marriage rates would be higher because it gives men more options to find someone to settle down with. But the op…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:36 PM
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If men are so desperate to settle down, then why does research show when men outnumber women, marriage rates are higher and median age for marriage is lower while the opposite is true when women outnumber men? Why do colleges that have more men then women have less of a hookup culture then those with other way around? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/55892-how-gender-ratio-affects-marriage-rates.html
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 03:41 AM
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The number of women being killed by their intimate partners is rising, while for men its declining. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-games/201909/the-number-women-murdered-partner-is-rising%3famp
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:03 PM
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Or the man in question could be young, wants to enjoy his youth and not be tied down with responsibilities like marriage or kids yet when he is still trying to kickstart his career or focus on his studies. Most men don’t fall into the two narrow categories you listed, bad boy alphas or love starved incels. I live in state where plenty of men want to get married and have kids because of their religion, and guess what, the vast majority don’t want to get married or settle down in their early twent…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 08:10 AM
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From my experience not experiencing an orgasm really dampers your enthusiasm for sex. I didn’t start to fully enjoy sex with bf until I was able to climax. But that’s just my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 12:26 PM
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Not from my experience but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 09:09 AM
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Lol where do you guys live where the majority of men in their early twenties want to settle down and get married already. Not even in my conservative Mormon state do most men (Mormon included) want to get married in their early twenties. Stop lying, if you did a survey asking young men when they want to get married that vast, vast majority would not say their early twenties. Your friends are either odd or you are making stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:34 AM
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Statistically women are less likely to orgasm for a casual sexual encounter hence why it’s seen as less pleasurable for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:25 AM
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So you have no actual data or statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:17 AM
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Not it’s not: https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-many-women-earn-more-than-their-husbands/amp/ But these numbers, which come from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, are sort of confusing — a lot of those women are earning more because they’re the only member of the marriage who is earning anything at all. When the BLS looked instead at marriages where both partners are in paid work, it found that only 29 percent of women earn more than their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:26 AM
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Not true. According to data I read in 13% of marriages the wife works while the husband does not. That is far from rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 12:27 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 10:45 PM
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Ok fair enough. I actually don’t consider myself a radical feminist but sometimes this subreddit can cause people and myself included to devolve into unnecessary tribalism because of the constant gender war nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 07:14 PM
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Have you ever thought that obesity may play in role in that? I see it constantly brought up that female obesity as a reason why a lot men are dissatisfied with the dating market and what holds women back from a having a more successful dating life which believe or not I agree with. But rarely do I see people on here acknowledge that male obesity can be a reason why some men are romantically unsuccessful, in fact people downplay it and try to make seem only women’s weight matter. While I don’t do…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:41 PM
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Hahaha, I knew it you are going to make excuses for them. I can’t keep track of your logic, one minute you are saying women have sex drives similar to men and rape/sexual assault others in similar numbers as men, the next minute women can get any man to have sex with them just by existing, which is why they don’t have to resort to using online dating to cheat, which implies men are way hornier then women for that to be possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:59 PM
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The statistic you cite is by 1% which any statistician will tell you is statistically insignificant. I guess Ashley Madison proves men cheat more? The largest infidelity site was revealed to be overwhelming male by a hacker, so much so that they had to pay female bot accounts to increase the percentage of women. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/ashley-madison-hack-6-charts-that-show-who-uses-the-infidelity-website-10465498.html%3famp I can only …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:32 PM
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I knew what a shit test was in high school in the mid 80s, well before any PUA or RP anything was written. It was common vocabulary with men. “Jump through hoops” was also a common version of the phrase. Simp used do be called pussywipped, but shit test was always shit test. Even guy knows what a shit test is. It is not RP unique. So playing hard to get? Isn’t that want you guys want women to do? Nearly every other posts on this subreddit is crying about how promiscuous and slutty women are and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:08 PM
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Do you understand the difference between allowing sex workers the right to work their job without fear of law enforcement and violence, and saying the solution to a social problem such as dissatisfied angry young men, is laying it on sex workers to fix, so the rest of us don’t have to deal with it? Even sex workers themselves have spoken out against this attitude: https://theoutline.com/post/4407/sex-workers-won-t-solve-the-incel-problem?zd=1&zi=s5uobw3p
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 11:42 AM
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Are you aware the opinion I expressed is something sex workers themselves have publicly said?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 11:24 AM
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Where did I specifically say incels can’t pay for sex? Do you understand the sentence, ‘shields against violent men or incels’ means?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 11:15 AM
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Can you point to me where in the post I said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 11:05 AM
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First off, sex workers are no different from used car salesmen. They sell a product and an illusion. That doesn’t mean treat them like crap. The important distinction being that sex workers have one of the highest job fatality rate of any other profession. https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/prostitution-in-the-united-states-30997 As far as pedestal goes, American women absolutely are on one. I’ve dated across cultures and lived in different cultures. The biggest challenge with flirting with Ameri…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 11:01 AM
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My point was that sex workers should not be used as the solution alleviating the problems of incels, violent men or by petty gender grievance warriors. I have friends who work in the sex industry and they find this attitude, that they are suppose to be the sacrificial lamb to help quell dissatisfied angry men without their thoughts or feelings considered offensive. This especially true after the Toronto terrorist attack where an incel killed a sex worker. And by incel I don’t mean virgin or sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:42 AM
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Your answer conveys that you really don’t give a shit about the well-being of sex workers but instead see this issue through a petty gender war lens, your ‘takes women off their pedestal,’ sentence demonstrates that. Sex workers are not here to be tools for your gender grievance project.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:35 AM
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Where did I say incels can’t visit sex workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:33 AM
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Hey sex workers are human beings too and they should not be used to score grievance points or as shields against violent men or incels. This attitude really pisses me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:03 AM
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I’ve seen real life, and it’s absolutely does happen. None of these girls hid their pass it was open to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:35 PM
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Did you miss the part where I said ‘openly slutty’ behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:20 PM
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Well yeah, average looking women whether they are virgins or sluts typically don’t marry Hollywood stars. You guys keep going on and on about how slutty women will hard time getting commitment or relationships because men find them icky but every high n count women I know has no problem getting into relationships. I know a girl who has her own onlyfans account and she gets dating/marriage proposals from men all around the world. Some rich guy in Montana recently gave her $3,000 no strings attach…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:59 PM
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It’s almost like anyone can find any study to bolster their confirmation bias which makes them meaningless and it’s better use common sense and your gut instinct to navigate the dating world rather then pretend there is some type of algorithm that can predict human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:29 PM
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I grew up in a conservative Mormon area, not since coming to this subreddit have I meet men obsessed with virginity, it’s really bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:09 PM
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Chads don’t want to wife high n women either. That’s funny because every ‘chad’ like guy I know in real life is dating his female equivalent. One of the most handsome guys I know just got engaged to an Instagram model. But sure most male models, Hollywood actors and rich dudes are wifing up chaste nuns, I’ll take you word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:08 PM
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The divorce rate is not 50% that statistic has been debunked numerous times.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:33 AM
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It’s not just her who ‘expects’ her partner to work, her partner also expects her to work too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 09:47 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/4933666002
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 09:45 PM
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The number is likely skewed by older couples, where male breadwinners are more of the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 09:45 PM
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If you include women who earn just as much as their husbands then the number is over 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 05:17 PM
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You are ignoring marriages where the woman also makes just as much as the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 05:14 PM
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My friendships with men don’t differ very much then my friendships with women, with some exceptions, like I wouldn’t feel comfortable disclosing personal hygiene stuff to my male friends versus female ones. I was curious about how many people in general have friends of the opposite sex, according to a study I found the majority of people don’t have friends of the opposite sex. Interestingly, men are more likely then women to say they friends of the opposite sex. https://www.aarp.org/content/dam/…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 02:18 PM
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Majority of apps are filled with men, women just dont use them as much. This is something people keep ignoring about why dating apps suck for men, the lopsided gender ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 02:24 PM
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All of this crap was before I, and most of the internet, was even born. You couldn’t even use a credit card in 99.9999% of stores until 1987. That’s beside the point, you were talking about the 19th century which you claimed women lived carefree lives baking cookies while men went to war. I factually countered that ignorant statement. But since you want to go there, recent laws like the abortion ban in Alabama happened in 2019 and most states did not outlaw marital rape until the 90s, and women …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 02:13 PM
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You realize how many generations you have to go back to show women had some semblance of oppression? While women couldn’t get a credit card without their husbands approval until the 70s??? Credit cards didn’t show up until the 80s. Couldn’t own properly until the mid 19th century? Not true. You are the one who implied that women never endured hardships during that time but instead were baking cookies while men went to war. That is a gross and ignorant view of history, which I countered by factua…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 11:38 AM
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Another way to say it is that women in the 19th century got to bake cookies while men worked themselves to death in coal mines, lost arms and fingers in machine shops, and died by the millions in mustard gas clouds across Europe. Are you really this ignorant? Are you not aware that women were also workers themselves, and worked themselves to death in textile, clothing factories, workshops, and coal mines as well? That they had to deal with childbirth, which was dangerous at that time, and prosti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 08:39 AM
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Yes it was women who were in charge that decided these things not the male bourgeois leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:39 PM
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So I am understand this straight, women manipulated and coerced men into preventing them from going to college until the 19th century and preventing them from doing certain jobs up until mid century, thus ensuring men had economic power over women for a period time in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:19 PM
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Honestly I don't give a damn. Why should I? Because people forced against their will to do something is terrible? most women don't care in the slightest about men's issues and are quick to paint all men with the same brush. So your petty grievances and perceived slights prevents you from having compassion for people who are suffering. There are men especially boys who get sex trafficked too, there does that cause you to have smidgen of compassion for victims of this? I don't believe for a second…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 08:09 AM
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Human trafficking of women from developed countries or poorer countries is a huge problem in most developed nations. I support legalizing prostitution but one shouldn’t make light of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 07:25 AM
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Which European country?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 04:19 AM
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Overwhelmingly men outearn women, for instance almost 80% of married outearn their wives. Close to 30% of wives out earn their husbands now. You have to keep in mind those stats are probably skewed by the older generation who are more likely to be married and grew up when traditional gender roles were more enforced. Things may be a lot different for the younger generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 03:44 AM
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What is your deal with FDS? Are you this bitter about subreddits like trp, mgtow, whereallthegoodmanhavegone, etc that negatively generalize women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 07:53 AM
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My brothers range from late teens to early thirties in age. None of them said they regularly run into women with "Karen" attitudes while dating. All my brothers have dated several women, so they aren't naive virgins. Do they run into entitled women? Yes. Is it the norm? Absolutely not. Maybe its because they are young, the Karen meme seems entirely be about middle aged women, which is around your age so maybe your experience is different. Even then it should be easy to find women who aren't like…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 11:09 PM
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Women are worse now than before. Do you have some examples of how? Did you date 15-20 years ago as a comparison? I just asked my brothers and boyfriend when they were single did they have to deal 'Karens' and believe me when I say that my brothers have no interest in pleasing me or being politically correct. They all gave me blank stares and said no. If this is the type of women you keep running into it may be time to expand your dating pool and find better people, because I am just not buying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 10:29 PM
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Well the men I talk to and know haven't indicated what you are talking about. I am really not buying this attitude of prissy white women calling the police on minorities has gotten worse over the last 15-20 years, as society back then was even more racist, so these incidents would have been more common, thats my guess at least. The rise of social media has created echo chambers where people insulate themselves from criticism from the other side. You see a lot of 'men are trash' on social media a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 09:47 PM
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The fact these women are regularly dragged on social media should be proof that people, men and women don't like them. I am not sure what else you want, pretty much everyone universally thought that Amy Cooper women was in the wrong. Thats why she was fired from her job and had to give up her dog. There is no societal shift, entitled people have call the police over any inconvenience have always existed, whats change is social media has captured these incidents more on camera. Just like unjust p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 09:26 PM
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Most non marital break ups are gender neutral. https://blogs.psychcentral.com/power-submission/2015/10/women-and-men-whose-more-likely-to-initiate-a-break-up/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 09:14 PM
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Most people get their ideas how relationships work from watching their parents and peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 09:11 PM
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Men aren't withdrawing in large numbers, get real. Dating apps and online dating are overwhelming male, more men want women then the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:23 AM
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Lol women are no different. You are absolutely clueless if you think that is true. There is a reason why HIV, stds and stis are much higher among gay/bisexual men then everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 11:48 PM
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Isn’t a huge part of trp is the higher a woman’s n count is, the lower her smv is? If woman acted like gay men, that would mean they would have much higher amount of sexual partners then they do now. I have gay friends who tell me that only having 50 sexual partners is considered a virgin in their world. That should tell you something. So the question is, would men be ok with the average women having way way higher amount of sexual partners then they do now as long as they could get easy sex? Re…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 08:59 PM
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So again only anecdotal data, nothing statistical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 07:59 PM
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You have proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 07:58 PM
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Nobody under 30 uses Facebook much anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:57 PM
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The article specifically says online dating not social media sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:43 PM
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No proof again just speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:40 PM
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A romance/erotica of some ugly-ass dude sexually forcing himself upon a woman which somehow ends up getting her all wet and worshiping of him by the end of sexually using her. Because nobody wants to watch that? How many men do you think want to watch a movie about an ugly guy raping and kidnapping a women so she’ll fall in love with him? There is no demand for the type of movie you are looking for which is why it doesn’t exist. Maybe petition somebody in Hollywood to make a script for you or ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:39 PM
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The movie became an all-time blockbuster because the overwhelming majority, who are overwhelmingly young women The movie was also panned has a low score on IMDb and attracted wide spread criticism. Links to most rapists being unattractive? You were claiming most rapes happen by frat guys on college campuses, do you have evidence? Which one of those movies features an ugly male who kidnaps and rapes a woman while being portrayed in a sexy, positive light for doing so, ending with the woman fallin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 10:41 AM
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Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 09:57 AM
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Well it has hasn't it? There has been an increase in the number women not having sex within the past year, based on what I read in the study. More young men live at home then young women, and more are unemployed and out of work. There you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 09:56 AM
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There are 54 million people between the ages 18-29 in the United States, if only 1% meet off instragram thats half a million, 540,000. Anyways, its clear its not common enough for it to be a trend in youth media, books, and movies. Its niche thing, not widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 09:21 AM
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Most young men speak to the opposite sex and girls their ages. If you have really gone five years without doing so, at some point you need to take some responsibility for yourself instead of just blaming society for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 09:17 AM
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Thats not normal btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 09:11 AM
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Nothing you listed is proof. Until you show me statistical data, I am going to dismiss it as a niche phenomena, a couple on articles on news sites means nothing especially they don't offer numbers. The reason we know people fuck from clubs because we it in the media on tv shows and movies. I have never watched a tv show directed at young people which shows them hooking up off of instagram, have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 08:51 AM
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Thats why when people complain about 'kids these days' being more promiscuous than in the past, I always tell them to look up 'The Lost Children of Rockdale County,' to show them they have no idea what they are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 08:46 AM
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Yeah, I agree to many factors pinpoint on one thing. Unfortunately, a lot of ideologues in this thread are going to blame just one thing instead of being nuanced and looking at the whole picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 08:31 AM
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So no evidence, just anecdotal data. I literally just graduated from college and I have never heard anyone hooking up based off instragram.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 08:29 AM
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Its not just stagnated wages, the cost of living has increased, inflation, debt, ect. These all play a role. When you control for inflation younger people make less then there parents did at the same age, are more likely to live at home, less likely to be employed and more likely to be in debt due to the insane rise in the college tuition in the past decade to boot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 08:27 AM
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The study doesn't suggest that. For some reason the women they sampled were more likely to be in a relationship or married versus the men they sampled. 70% of women were coupled up versus 49% of men, that doesn't make sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 08:00 AM
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The number people hooking up off instragram is minuscule, unless you have proof otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 07:51 AM
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They still use a lot less then men which is why 80% of user are male. There are 8 million tinder users, if 80% of male (not including bot accounts which tend to be female) that means the number of women on the platform is 1.6 million which out of 150 million people is not a lot. Even if you just look at 18-24 years old, that is 1.6 million(which includes all ages) out 15 million young women, far from the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 07:50 AM
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Tinder is 80% men (not including bot accounts which tend to female) and according to most statistics men outnumber women 9-1 on most dating sites. Most women including young women don't use online dating. Its time to give this excuse a rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 07:19 AM
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The internet plays a role in stunting a lot of young people's emotional intelligence and growth. Instead of going outside to socialize, many would rather stay cooped up in their rooms playing video games all day, watch tiktok videos, for post instagram stories. Not all, but enough, which is why we are seeing an increase in isolation and depression among young people. I think in particular for young men dating apps, have not been healthy. Despite the fact that online dating is waste a time for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 07:14 AM
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In the US, drivers license among teens has always represented freedom, since most people don't live in urban settings but the suburbs. Less teens getting their license, show less want to be independent of their surroundings. However, it could also be more wanting to use public transportation as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 05:54 AM
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But there is not a single woman in the world unable to sustain the sexual interest of a man, that’s for sure. Really? Even eight year old grandmas? Besides he is also talked about marriage, which not every women can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 05:45 AM
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I had a thread on this a couple days ago, about extended adolescence as a theory as to explain partially why sexual activity among young people was declining. They are still doing it but at increasingly older ages. The decline of sexual activity among teenagers is the most telling of this phenomena along with later ages teens are getting their driver licenses moving out their home, spending more time in school etc. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/gxui5y/a_lot_things_guys_on_he…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 05:42 AM
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France has the Nordic model as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:32 AM
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Several poster called you out and suddenly you changed your tune. People like you really are the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 06:37 PM
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I see you walked backed your claims after some posters called you out, maybe your experience doesn't speak everyone. Ever thought of that? Probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:59 PM
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This has been debunked multiple times, the divorce rate is not 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 05:26 AM
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No offense it was kind of shitty of you to assume any women who has a problem with their brother must be because they are shallow idiots that are jealous their parents are spending money on them instead of buying them shoes and trips abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 05:19 AM
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The issue with muslim immigration is more example of pathological altruism, than anything to do with some type of conspiracy by feminist to have access to chads. In fact some of the biggest people supporting unlimited immigration from developing countries are corporations who want a steady stream of cheap labor to exploit. You see the same thing in the United States with central american immigration, and those men are far from chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 10:11 PM
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Well my brother is a violent idiot who grew up beating me and my siblings up, and continues to steal from us to this day. It's almost like some people aren't lying when they say they have shitty siblings, but I know that is hard to believe for people who subscribe to the men good, women bad, way of thinking on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 09:07 PM
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Or some people actually have shit siblings, but I know here everyone has black and white thinking regarding men and women, believing their gender is always perfect and the other is always wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 08:37 PM
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The links above contradict your point that people are ok with rape and abuse in movies as long as the guy is handsome obviously a lot of people are not. Every day that I'm reading about some woman who says she was raped at some college party or by her partner, I see pictures of athletic jocks or sports player, and I read about those more often than I read about women getting jumped by the Indian Janitor during a park stroll. Links? Most rapist aren’t college students. Based on the sex offender r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 07:40 PM
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A whole bunch of non-dinosaur feminists and a lot of young men in general. Just Google the various critiques and reactions. Links? Can they be aired on netflix like women's porn can be without women freaking out about it? Yes Netflix, literally has thousands upon thousands of movies that are meant to satisfy people’s different niche interest. Like the movie ‘Quills‘ which used to be on Netflix, or ‘Perfume Story of a Murderer’ which was critically acclaimed. I am positive you could find some Eur…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:07 PM
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the critical response is that the fictional behavior turning you on is sick, twisted and illegal Who saying that? Other than dinosaur boomers who think video games cause mass shootings, almost nobody under 35, believes that. should men also not be judged by their fantasy of watching an ugly man kidnap an attractive woman and groom her? Nobody cares if you want to watch porn about ugly men kidnapping and raping women. There are literally thousands of porn movies you can find with scenarios like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 04:30 PM
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Just type in sex workers on the twitter search bar, and you will find thousands of accounts of sex workers openly advertising their services. Ever since backpage shut down, they have moved to social media sites to continue working. I would recommend you not telling any women you want to date in the future about this though. As long as prostitution remains illegal and has a sex trafficking problem, most women are going to be hesitant to date men who has payed for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 06:54 PM
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I mean no? Just do what you have to do, it’s none of our business and you don’t need our permission. Just make sure the escort services you are using are legit and not sex trafficking scams. I recommend using Twitter to find legit escort girls who will give you sex in exchange for money. No women has to know what you are doing as long as you don’t tell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 06:17 PM
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Maybe, but the general trend is the average person is having less sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:49 AM
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Not sure about that, I’ve seen a lot of women take care of fat slobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 03:12 AM
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I already told you that your ‘lived experience‘ doesn’t suddenly supersede statistical data.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 02:41 AM
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So you got nothing useful to say in response, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 02:12 AM
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You can believe what you want, but several studies have demonstrably proven that young people of both genders are reporting less sex and less sexual partners compared to previous generations. The Millennial generation includes people born between 1980 and 1994. The new study, published Tuesday in the Archives of Sexual Behavior, finds that younger Millennials — those born in the early 1990s and sometimes referred to as "the Snapchat Generation" — are 41 percent more likely to be sexually inactiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 01:31 AM
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Social scientist who have studied the sex lives of young people come to very different conclusions. But you are likely to dismiss their work because it doesn’t conform to your confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 10:46 PM
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The media tricks you into thinking everyone is having way more sex then they are actually are, but the reality is young people are not only having less sex compared to previous generations but also less sexual partners as well: “Over the past few years, Jean M. Twenge, a psychology professor at San Diego State University, has published research exploring how and why Americans’ sex lives may be ebbing. In a series of journal articles and in her latest book, iGen, she notes that today’s young adul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 10:45 PM
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People are actually having less sex, this is well documented at this point, don’t let trp make you think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 10:12 PM
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Op is a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 02:30 PM
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Sure, but they are also reporting less sexual partners compared to previous generations as well. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/05/06/why-millennials-have-sex-with-fewer-partners-than-their-parents-did/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 03:59 AM
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I think his larger point is we need more well paying jobs that aren't dependent on having a college education. Having just graduated from college, I can assure you that it has some of most ignorant people I have ever meet, this classist attitude really needs to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 03:43 AM
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I am not really understanding your question, but yes as you get older the chances of you having sex at least once increases. Very few people remain virgins the rest of their lives. Incels imao, have a lot issues outside of not getting sex, some are mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 09:09 PM
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Regardless whether or not you think the girls are lying or not, there has been a noticeable decrease among young people reporting sexual activity. They are still doing it, just at increasingly older ages which fits with the extended adolescence theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 08:12 PM
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It seems more likely younger people are waiting longer to engage in sexual activity due to what I explained above, extended adolescence rather than any conscious effort by women to avoid having sex with 'low-tier men.' "The study found that only 42 percent of girls and 44 percent of boys aged 15 to 19 reported having sex at least once. And Breuner said that finding is nothing new. Going back to 2002, fewer than half of older teens told researchers that they are sexually active, federal data show…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 08:03 PM
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A marginal group of men is having a lot of sex with a large group of women* The rate of sexlessness has increased among women as well: "The team analyzed data from more than 26,000 respondents to the General Social Survey, a nationally representative survey of U.S. adults that includes members of both the Millennial generation and its predecessor, Generation X. Among Americans ages 20-24 now, the results showed 15 percent had no sexual partners since turning 18. Young white people, young women, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 07:49 PM
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Younger people are actually having less sex, not more, so the idea that women are too busy having sex with Chad to settle down doesn't hold water either. In fact a study found that a small percentage on both sides (men and women) have a disproportionate amount of sexual encounters, so the 80/20 rule also applies to women, and its more like 20/50. People are getting married later, but they are also spending more time together before tying the knot. The average couple spends 3-5 years together bef…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 07:39 PM
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The problem with this claim is that while the average age of marriage has grown, so has courtships. In the past, couples would date for a shorter period of time before tying the knot, now the average couple spend at least 3-5 years together before tying the knot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 07:26 PM
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The economics also play a role but so does culture. How many middle class parents do you think would want their children to get married straight out of high school or even college? Most parents when you talk to them about what age they think their children should be at minimum to settle down always say late twenties or thirties in my experience. Thats one of the interesting things I found about redpill theory, they insist most men want women at their prime (16-25), but most fathers you speak to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 07:22 PM
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Most people are still getting married and settling down, they are just taking longer to do so than in the past. The issue of marriage has become one of economics, poorer people are still having children, they are just not getting married, like to did in the past. There is really no proof polygamy is increasing, if that were the case we would see a small number of man having monopoly on child reproduction but that is not the case. The percentage of men and women who have children is fairly even. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 04:42 PM
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I really don't understand how female hypergamy is wrecking havoc on people. As long as a woman's is not rude, why is her rejecting a man because she does not want him bad? The rest of your post is wishful thinking, the number of childless women in their forties is actually less than it was a decade ago. Young people are just taking longer to do 'adult' things like having sex, getting married and having children due to extended adolescence: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/extended-adol…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:45 PM
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No they won’t. They are specifically chosen to look young and youthful, that’s why no of them have beards and all have pristine white skin with a skinny body. Once they age out of their look they will no longer be famous. I don’t find the Kpop look attractive anymore, in fact I am not really that attracted to East Asian men as I was in my youth. I now prefer white/Hispanic men with long hair and beards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 12:29 PM
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This isn’t true lol. Hasn’t it even been proven that when women are younger they tend to prefer more feminine men but as they get older they start to prefer more masculine? When I was younger I used to like the Kpop or boyband look on guys and thought beards/muscles were gross. Now that I am older I find that look cringe and like something different. People’s taste can change, it’s not impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 12:15 PM
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I mean aren’t poorer people more likely to be obese? I’ve been to Bronx and Manhattan, there was a noticeable difference in attractiveness between the men in those neighborhoods. The difference interestingly enough wasn’t that different between women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 08:19 AM
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I don't know, same reason why men leave women for millions of other things. Cohabitation couplings with children statistically tend to be less stable compared to married couples, there hasn't been study into why, but my guess its because these couples tend to be poorer on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 07:43 PM
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Chad is meant to be an attractive man right? So most single mothers are having children with attractive men? Gee no wonder all those deadbeat dad mugshots look like Calvin Klein ads.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:20 PM
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How I am suppose to google if I don’t know what the link says?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:19 PM
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You really haven’t noticed a correlation between wealth attractiveness? Maybe that’s true when everyone is still sixteen but definitely not true as people age. I thought the ‘Chad’ meme was applied only to attractive men not any guy anywhere that can get a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:18 PM
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Having been to this type of neighborhoods and worked in them, attractive men aren’t common at all. Do you see some? Sure, but definitely much less than a richer neighborhood. Drug dealers are usually grimy and ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:02 PM
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The link doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:00 PM
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For what i’ve seen the chad meme is not well defined, and seems to be a catch all phrase for an attractive man. I mean isn’t a huge part of the blackpill ideology is that only looks matter, nothing else, and if you don’t have the right amount bone centimeter you are doomed to a life loneliness unless you are very wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:17 PM
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Sure, but there is some overlap. Most single mothers I know have average to below average looking baby daddies. Men who end up as baby daddies are more likely to come from a poorer socioeconomic background and are less educated. These aren’t the Polo wearing Chads everyone is envisioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:03 PM
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Lol, so now you go full conspiracy theorist. Yes absolutely none of the men being pursued for child support are actually the father, they are all being cucked 🙄. Apparently, it’s male models that are going around impregnating women left and right in every ghetto and trailer park from Russia to nowhere Wyoming. And poor women who need money for their children won’t pursue child support if the man is handsome because... who knows? I don’t think even you believe this nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:49 PM
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Statistics show most single mothers were either in a relationship or married to the father of their children. So most of these arrangements aren’t just the result of drunken one night stands as you were implying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:21 PM
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What are you talking about? My point was most single mothers don’t have children by ‘chads.’
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:07 PM
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No the men were never in a relationship with them. They fucked down one night at the bar, or specifically said they'd be fuck buddies and nothing more because the women were shooting out of their league. How do you know this? Statistics show most single mothers were in a relationship or married to their partner before splitting. Plenty ugly men leave their wives and gfs, that are as attractive as them or more. The idea that men only leave women who are below them in attractiveness is ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 03:52 PM
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You were implying that the reason why those men left those women was because they were too ugly for them or that women were shooting out of their league. That seems imply if they were better looking they would have never left them which is faulty logic. I know it’s hard for some people to believe but looks aren’t the sole reason why a relationship doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 03:46 PM
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So men never leave women or cheat on them if she is better looking than them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 03:40 PM
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One of the funniest things I have read on this subreddit, is the idea that most single mothers end up single mothers because they got pumped and dumped by ‘chad.’ Just imao, have you guys ever seen deadbeat dad mugshots or database, not exactly a male model catalogue. People on this subreddit really overestimate how many super attractive men there are out there. I’ve been to several states, lived in large cities like New York and been abroad several times. Model looking handsome men that incels …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 03:08 PM
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Are you saying there is no skill involved in dancing, and yoga? Because that is false. No offense but I would expect you as a man to not appreciate the effort women put into their appearance. Ever had your legs waxed or eyebrows threaded? Not fun, I'll tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:58 AM
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I am not understanding your comment, are you saying less women work out under bad weather? Because at the gym I go at, I haven't noticed that, I already talked about my observations about joggers. I think it should be obvious that the fact that a majority of men do not find women with muscles attractive is why you see less of them doing intense bodybuilding workouts versus men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:52 AM
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I think multiple posters have repeatedly pointed out to you that the reason why don't see a lot women versus men deadlifting or squatting 200 pound weights is because muscles on women are culturally not seen as attractive. Men have testosterone which makes easier for them to form muscles in first place. Just because you view things like cardio, yoga, jogging, and dancing as 'easy' doesn't make them low effort activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:42 AM
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Yeah, most gyms I have gone to have always been majority men, but women always made up at least 40% of gym goers. I don't where this idea that women don't go to the gym came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 09:29 AM
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So is your point that women don't do more intensive work outs? Because that can be entirely explained by the fact most men do not find women with a lot muscles attractive. Thats why a lot women figure doing simple things like dieting, or activities like dancing, yoga, or running which will help them get a toned trimmed physique more preferable. If more men found muscular physiques on women attractive you would see more women at the gym pumping iron.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 09:23 AM
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Hair removal is not low effort, it can actually be expensive, and if a women is very hairy she might have to shave everyday or more. I have very little hair that I just get waxed every four weeks (cost about $75), one of my friends who is very hairy has to shave twice a day or the hair will grow back as soon she wakes up the next morning. Even if you think things like waxing, hair care, and makeup are low effort, they are necessary to be well presentable. Many companies will not even hire women …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 09:06 AM
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Women do put effort into their appearance. Things like hair removal, dieting, hair care, nail polish, eyebrow waxing, etc can add up. You may see less women at gyms, but that could be simply because more women prefer to work out at home. Most home work out equipment is bought by women for example: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1003272/type-of-sports-equipment-and-gear-people-purchased-last-year-by-gender/ If you look at wellness classes, yoga classes and dance classes, the majority of part…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 08:44 AM
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I live near a college campus and I have not noticed this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 06:59 PM
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Dude wtf? There is no gaslighting scheme going on here. Do you honestly think the majority of men want to settle down and get married in their early twenties too? Because surveys on that question say no. People act as though women are just turning down marriage proposals left and right in their twenties. I already repeatedly pointed out that while the average age of marriage is older, courtships are also longer today. Couples today spend at least 3-5 years together before getting married versus …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 11:20 AM
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You need to chill. It’s well known by people who have studied the issue that the average age of marriage is increasing due to a multitude of factors that are related to economics. More younger people go to college than in the past, have higher debts due to the insane rise in college tuition, make less money then their parents did at the same age when controlling for inflation, live at home longer, and thanks to offshoring, there are less well paying jobs for non college educated Americans. You h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 10:29 AM
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I am not understanding your comment. The average age of marriage is increasing due to a multitude of reason that has nothing to do with ‘hurr durr women are too busy sleeping with chad!’ Even if you believe all Western women are sluts, how do you explain the increase in the age of first marriage in East Asian and Latin American countries? In Japan and Brazil for example the average age of marriage for women is 30. Is also because they are too busy sleeping with Chad? It’s also been pointed out b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 09:55 AM
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Economics does play a role in why people are delaying marriage. While the age of marriage is increasing, courtships are longer. In the 1970s an average couple spent 1-2 years together before tying the knot, today it’s 3-5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 09:50 AM
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Or it could be that more young people go to college, are in debt, and expenses keep rising, could explain why people in the Western world/East Asia are delaying marriage. Most couples who get married usually spend at least 3-4 years together on average before tying the knot. So this idea that women are knocking men on the head and forcing them to take them down the aisle as soon as they hit 30 is asinine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 09:09 AM
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Op you have to understand that a lot people who post here are socially handicapped. Its not this hidden secret from the world that women like attractive men, anyone who is ever watched enough female orientated media would already understand this. The reason why the men here treat it as a shock is because they are socially challenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 08:28 AM
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Men also underreport things regarding their sexuality, like how many have ever paid for sex. I am getting really tired of this notion that only women lie about things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 12:50 PM
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Probably higher for both genders then reported. But given that men have a more positive attitude towards extramarital affairs, its likely they are ones interpreting behavior that would normally be seen as cheating, as not cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 12:44 PM
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I get what you are saying but not everyone who cheats cares about everything you listed. The reason why prostitution remains the world oldest profession because it offers instant sexual relief without having to put any effort. Not every man who is looking to cheat wants a willing partner with emotional attachment often times they just want sex which is what prostitutes offer. Haven't you ever heard the popular phrase 'paying the whore to leave'?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 12:40 PM
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So you have nothing. Got it. The most recent studies on infidelity I can find: "Marital infidelity has been on the rise in the United States since the 1940s. Research numbers vary in identifying precisely how many people are unfaithful to their spouses, perhaps because it is not something one may willingly report. However, studies indicate that lifetime prevalence of infidelity ranges from 20 percent-40 percent for females and 25 percent-50 percent for males. Alarmingly, one recent study found t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 12:23 PM
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Survey estimates of the prevalence of clients of prostitute women are biased because men underreport sex with prostitutes. We conducted capture-recapture analyses of prostitution arrest records in several United States metropolitan areas and found that about two to three percent of adult male residents patronized local street prostitutes during observation periods of two to five years. An estimate from Colorado Springs, based on the prevalence of local prostitutes, the mean number of their clien…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 12:02 PM
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We also have evidence that men underreport things concerning sexuality, like how many have ever paid for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:28 AM
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And men don’t lie about cheating? No evidence just you think so, so it must be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:20 AM
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I’ve seen that link it’s literally by 1% which any statistician will tell you is statistically insignificant. Every other age demographic men cheat more. So what are these reports of ‘experts’ saying women cheat more?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 10:43 AM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 10:40 AM
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You are making the mistake thinking that people only cheat for a new emotional connection when in reality many cheat because they just want sex even if they are happy in their current relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 09:52 AM
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It’s still an option and you can even paid them to pretend to like you via the girlfriend experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 09:30 AM
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Again as long as prostitution exists men have just as many options to cheat. The rest of your posts is just your subjective opinion and not rooted in anything factual.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 08:53 AM
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The op is basically saying women cheat more because they have more options. This completely discounts the fact that only reason anyone cheats is because they want to, not because of ‘options.’ If someone has a desire to cheat male or female they will find a way. Some of you act like it’s impossible for married men to get sex outside of marriage. I pointed out that is not true as long as prostitutes exists. Women care more about lifestyle than love. Of course you think that, you still hold on to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 07:48 AM
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No the point is, if somebody wants to cheat they will cheat. Period. It doesn’t matter how many ‘opportunities’ they have, it matters if they desire to or not. If most men had a natural revulsion against using prostitutes it wouldn’t be a billion dollar industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 07:28 AM
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The site clearly shows that a lot men have the desire to cheat. Whether they followed through is beside the point, it go against the idea that men are naturally more moral and loyal like a lot posters here are outright saying. Men can easily find willing partners to cheat with, they are called prostitutes. Some of them even openly advertise their services on twitter!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:51 AM
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Oh please, if an adultery site with 37 million members was 87% women, you and every trp member would be using that as proof women were disloyal devious sluts. But because it’s men you will make excuses for them. Btw men can easily find willing partners to cheat, it’s called the oldest profession in the books, you just need to have some money to show for. How about this, both men and women can be unfaithful or disloyal. It depends on the individual not their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:39 AM
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Exactly this. 12% of men who have cheated have admitted to paying sex workers. I really don’t know why people pretend no men buy sex from prostitutes just because it’s illegal. It’s incredibly easy not to get caught and many of those women openly advertise their services on Twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:35 AM
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Some women may not prefer men who aren’t virgins but they don’t typically go around insulting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:26 AM
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I think we should all take the time to remember the Ashley Madison data: A big data analysis by data journalism site DadaViz has broken down the demographics of Ashley Madison. Here's what they found: More than three quarters of site users whose gender information was provided were male. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/ashley-madison-hack-6-charts-that-show-who-uses-the-infidelity-website-10465498.html%3famp
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:24 AM
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Only 12% admitted to it, you have been naive if you don’t think it’s higher and stigma is lowering the number of those willing to admit it. If anyone wants to cheat they will find a way to cheat willing partner or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 02:54 AM
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Some of these are grown adults like Roosh v, who has a following not just lonely incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 04:11 AM
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That’s not true. Have you heard of the terms home wrecker , mistress or the other women? Old rich men dumping their wives for a younger model is practically a cliche.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 04:10 AM
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How is that a contradiction? It’s well known that sometimes people who are happy in their relationship can still cheat. Still ignoring my Ashley Madison data I see 🤔.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 03:22 AM
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No, the fact a study contradicts yours shows it’s not a set law as you are making it out to be. Again why are you ignoring the Ashley Madison data?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 03:11 AM
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You have still provided no evidence that paternity fraud has increased. Btw a recent study found a man sexual history matters more in a relationship in their probability of cheating while for women it’s the other way around: "A person's history of sex was a predictor of infidelity, too. Men who reported having more short-term sexual partners prior to marriage were more likely to have an affair, while the opposite was true for women." https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180212190946.htm…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 03:00 AM
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Nothing in your link indicated that paternity fraud is increasing and the link below showed women cheating by 1% which any statistician will tell you statistically insignificant. Just admit you want to add paranoia about women because you want to use as a excuse to disenfranchise them. While we are at let’s take a look at the Ashley Madison site and it’s data on cheater: “A big data analysis by data journalism site DadaViz has broken down the demographics of Ashley Madison. Here's what they foun…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 02:44 AM
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Doesn’t the popularity of onlyfans something trp seethe over daily contradict this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 02:23 AM
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Look up a deadbeat dad mugshots and database, tell me how many male models you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 02:19 AM
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They want to get knocked up by Chads, then have government buxx pay for it. People keep saying this but every single mother I know has an ugly baby father. Have you ever looked up a deadbeat dad data base? It’s hardly what one would call a male model catalogue. The rest of your post is just revisionist history, the sexual revolution was not started by women but by Hugh Hefner who credited by historian liberalizing Americans attitude towards sex by advocating for the bachelor lifestyle and no str…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 02:14 AM
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Ignore him, he is a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 02:03 AM
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Do you have any evidence? At this point it’s just speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 01:49 AM
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Participants were asked to imagine being approached by a member of the opposite sex, described as either "slightly unattractive," "moderately attractive," or "exceptionally attractive," who asked the student to go out, go to their apartment, or go to bed. Students rated on a scale from 0 (definitely not) to 100 (definitely yes) how likely they would be to accept each request. Regardless of the opposite sex's attractiveness, men were more likely than women to accept all three offers. For instance…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 10:23 PM
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You are delusional if you think only chads cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 10:20 PM
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Huh? Cities like Los Angeles have really large obesity rates, especially in the Hispanic community.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 09:48 PM
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You’ll probably get less matches/swipes because women will assume you are a frat douche. Not fat girls or not fat bitches is literally a shirt many of them wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 09:19 PM
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Studies have already shown that men will lower their beauty standards for sex. This has nothing to do with being less shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:57 PM
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You can already discreetly guess their weight by looking at their pictures or asking to see recent pictures of them on social media etc. Stop playing the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:56 PM
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Uh yeah? If them just being virgins was what brought out the disdain in everyone then foreveraloners would also be equally mocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:55 PM
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12% admitted to it, that is nothing to sneeze at.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:53 PM
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And? Men bash women who lie about their weight etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 01:04 PM
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Some of the man I your rank advocate that, don’t play dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 01:03 PM
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I grew up Mormon, so I know that FLDS are different from the LDS Church.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 12:13 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2005/jun/14/usa.julianborger
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 11:23 AM
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If you think ‘virgins’ are less likely to cheat on you, then have at it. Just don’t remove women’s rights and autonomy because you are distrustful of women. Your feelings don’t outweigh their rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 10:49 AM
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That doesn’t make sense. Why waste months/years being with someone only to find out the baby isn’t yours AFTER you take the test? Better to minimize the risks from before by not wifing the town bike I already said you had the right to seek out whatever women you want. The concerns about paternity don’t make any sense since we have dna testing today which can determine if you have been cuckolded or not. That didn’t exist in the past. The women today are more promiscuous than women 70 years ago wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 10:23 AM
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That doesn’t make any sense, there are plenty of paternity tests available today for men if they are concerned about the paternity of their children. You can go out and get a virgin or low n count women if you want, nobody is stopping you and that is 100% your right but that shouldn’t come at the expense of women’s self determination or freedom. Your hangs up sex shouldn’t overrule somebodies else’s autonomy. Period. This idea of modern women being uniquely promiscuous is nonsense as well. The a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 10:02 AM
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Obsession with female purity has historically lead to the disenfranchisement of women. There is a reason why some countries till this day force fgms, burkas, and restrict female movement, it all ties back to the obsession with female purity. Of course women are going to be threatened, this has historically been used to restrict our autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 09:24 AM
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Literally nobody gave a fuck about incels until one of them committed a terrorist attack. Most people mocking the incels have no idea what they look like, they are mocking their writings. Again does fds constantly post about how much bisexual men, male virgins and men who visit prostitutes are bad husbands, boyfriends, friends etc like many posters in this sub do? The poster above was implying women are hypocrites because wouldn’t date men who were bisexual, virgins or sex buyers. I pointed out …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 09:19 AM
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Unfortunately, I can’t find it right now but I remember reading it in a magazine. If I find it again I’ll leave the link below.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:56 AM
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Incels are mocked and bashed because they espouse a dangerous delusional ideology that has shown the capacity to inspire violence, they are not mocked because they are virgins. Just take a look at this post and tell me these people aren’t delusional or hateful: https://amp.reddit.com/r/justneckbeardthings/comments/8c2qbx/it_should_be_legal_for_incels_to_rape_women/ Fds constantly post about how much they hate male virgins, bisexual men and men who visit prostitutes? Are they constantly posting t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:41 AM
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I don’t think sex selective abortion is morally right no matter what the gender. It especially shouldn’t be done over something as trivial as sex. Most evidence shows that when women greatly outnumber men they give up on men and focus on their education. So I don’t think this experiment is guaranteed to make men more desirable to women by virtue of there being less of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:14 AM
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My point is both genders lie about shit pretending only women do is the height of dishonesty. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 07:06 AM
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What movement? Most of the movement regarding slut-shaming came about because a police officer told women if they don’t want to be raped they should watch what they wear, further pushing old rape myths about women having it coming when they are raped. The reality is that throughout history the obsession with female purity has been used as an excuse to restrict women’s sexuality and rights. This is why things like fgm, burkas, and gender segregation exist to this day in some parts of the world. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 06:44 AM
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I know you are lying, because men absolutely insult each other for being virgins. In fact the military got in trouble a couple years ago because a lot of leaders would humiliate virgins by making them do extra pushups in front everybody. Stop pretending that men don’t have their own hierarchies and the stigma against male virgins solely comes from women. Incels are insulted because they encourage violence and rampant misogyny. The incel subreddit was banned from reddit because many of its member…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 06:24 AM
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Are you seriously saying you never seen men insult guys who are virgins? Never in the locker rooms were virgins berated as losers or nerds? I readily admit women slut-shame each other but denial of male hierarchy and intersexual competition makes you sound dishonest. Incels are not insulted because they are virgins they are insulted because they encourage a toxic ideology that has gotten people killed. Hopefully, now that we have had two back to back incel attacks recently, people will stop pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 05:41 AM
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A lot of fundamentalist Mormons already do something like this. They kick out a percentage of their young men, so the older men don’t have to compete with them for young women. Skewed gender ratio allows for the men to continue having multiple wives without any issues. Frankly, I find the whole thing sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 05:27 AM
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The virgin insult is something predominantly used by men not women. It’s much more likely that a man berates a man for being a virgin than a woman. The virgin insult is still far less used then whore, slut, thot, and roastie. Women aren’t the ones going around making up fantastical myths about male virgins body parts or constantly posting the same studies about how male virgins make bad husbands, fathers, friends etc. In fact the funny thing is the incel movement was created by a women who did s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 05:21 AM
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Being against bisexual men would in fact be politically incorrect nowadays because they are a part of the lgbt community. The issue of prostitution likely has to due with it still being illegal so there is a strong chance a man could be paying a sex trafficking victim for sex. Most women don’t spend their time openly insulting male virgins, some may not have preference for them but their is nothing in the mainstream media that suggest women constantly talk about hating male virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 05:06 AM
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The willingness to lower standards to get something means you want it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 04:38 AM
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No halo effect. I know attractive men who treat women badly but most of the men I see treating women badly are ugly/average. All men have an equally likelihood of cheating, it has nothing to do with chances. In my experience men who have a hard time getting casual sex just use prostitutes, my brother in laws friend did this for example. It’s not uncommon as 12% of men who have cheated have admitted to paying for it. So enough of this ‘ugly men are more faithful because they have less options!’ I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 04:34 AM
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Why can women get it on tap though? In order for that to be true men’s desire for casual sexual has to be higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 03:59 AM
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I’m just telling you my experience which is most men I see treating women badly aren’t these handsome sex gods that trp will have you believe. The women I know who are single mothers, have survived domestic violence and abuse all had ugly/average looking bf/husbands. Most ‘chads’ I know were nice men. I am not claiming all ugly/average looking men treat women badly, far from it, but that vast majority of men I know who treated women badly were ugly/average. This contradicts the trp fantasy where…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 03:58 AM
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If the desire was equal we would see an equal number of male prostitutes and online dating apps like tinder wouldn’t be sausagefests.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 03:50 AM
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Many men lie about their height and how much money they make. It’s almost like some people are dishonest and it has nothing to do with their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 03:48 AM
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The reason is because you don’t have subreddits and entire forums by women dedicated to constantly talking about how evil male bisexuals, male virgins and men who visit prostitutes are. Women can state their preference without developing into a neurotic crusade to find studies to justify their feelings and constantly post about it. With some posters here, we get it you don’t want to date women with a high n count, then don’t, nobody is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 03:44 AM
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Look women for obvious reasons are gong to be more sensitive towards slut shaming because it has been used in the past to restrict female anatomy. Why do you think some cultures perform genital multination, force women to wear burkas or prevent them from doing anything without the permission of their husband? It all ties back to a troubling obsession with female purity, that sex taints women. I think a lot men do exaggerate how promiscuous women are though. This isn’t new, during the Ancient Gre…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 03:37 AM
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In my experience a man’s attractiveness had no bearing on how he treated in women. In fact most ‘chads’ I’ve meet have been genuinely nice guys and most men I know in real life who beaten/abused/cheated on women were ugly/average. Seriously, do you think it’s male models who are leaving women in trailer parks and ghettos single mothers?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 02:50 AM
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Don’t care if you don’t believe me 🤷‍♀️.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 10:37 AM
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Of course you don’t have any response 😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 10:09 AM
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I’m already with a guy I find really attractive for over a year. Unlike you I live in the real world where ugly men aren’t sweet and kind to women as a rule, and are capable of being awful to anyone like any normal human being. One day I hope you will wake up for your delusional but I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 10:04 AM
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I can tell your true intentions as well and that is you don’t have women’s best interest at heart, so stop pretending you do. If you did you would acknowledge that men regardless of their attractiveness levels can screw them over, but that works against your narrative so you don’t. The heart of your grievance is that you can’t pump and dump women you think are ugly. Why do you care if fat women chose attractive men over you? It’s not because you want to be relationship with them, that’s for sure…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:01 AM
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Proof? Any screenshots of the conversations?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 01:43 AM
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Yeah, having grown up Mormon, I really don’t recognize a lot things being said by the op.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 01:40 AM
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The funny thing is, most single mothers I know have ugly baby fathers. Ever looked up a deadbeat dad database? It’s hardly what one would call a male model catalogue, but some of you guys are so delusional that you actually think only handsome men are capable of pumping and dumping women. You obviously only spread that message because you want to make it easier for you to also pump and dump women who are looking for relationships. Don’t play dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 01:29 AM
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I’m not disagreeing with that, but I wouldn’t dismiss the idea that chemicals and toxins in our food play a role as well. If you looked at the study I linked it shows that a person is still more likely be fatter than a person in the 1980s even if they consumed the same amount food and exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 12:49 AM
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Most people don’t think like you. ‘Oh I better ignore this person showing interest because they are not my look match!’ If they see someone show interest and they have compatibility, then they may proceed to pursue a relationship. Oh and stop acting like below averaging looking men wouldn’t pump and dump women if they got the chance, you guys are just mad that women you perceive as ugly don’t give you a chance to, which is why you lash out. Not because you care about them getting pumped and dump…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 12:31 AM
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Yes caloric intake has increased but the quality of food was also healthier in some ways back then. There was less pesticides and the use of artificial fertilizers. Crop yields today are more enhanced but nutritional values of the crops have diminished. In the 1960s for example the chicken you would could buy at a grocery store was a real chicken, now it’s pumped with additives and drugs, and genetically modified. Beef cows are fed grain or in some cases fed cow guts, hooves, bones crushed up an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 12:22 AM
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How are fat women punching above their weight if they are getting offers from different men online? I’m I to believe that if 200 women of a wide range of attractiveness messaged you in a month, you wouldn’t go with most attractive offer but the one who was your ‘looks matched’ ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 11:54 PM
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The wide spread availability of ultra processed food also is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 11:30 PM
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Here is what I found: A study of people who were tested for various chemicals by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found that people who tested positive for endocrine-disrupting chemicals from pesticides and air pollution were more likely to be overweight. https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/80791/cdc_80791_DS1.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 11:20 PM
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Not enough government oversight is why we are in this mess in the first place. They have allowed food companies and big agricultural to run wild and continue to put harmful chemicals in our food that have been shown to increase the chances of cancer and weight gain. If the FDA were to simply follow the EU guidelines on what food additives/chemicals should be banned or allowed that would make a big difference. Obviously some people are fat because of inactivity and laziness, but chemicals/toxins …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 10:50 PM
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Exactly. That’s why in places where prostitution is legal, trafficking is higher, there is not enough suppliers to keep up with the demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 02:14 AM
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Or men could learn better how to be alone and not depend on women for their emotional support and instead seek out male friends/family members to keep them company. We had a thread dedicated to this, and most guys were against the idea, only gfs/wives can give them emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 07:41 PM
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I’m sorry but the amount ‘not looking for anything serious’ comments I see on tinder leaves me to believe this highly unlikely at least among young men. Other women I know share the same frustrations which is why they stopped doing online dating, it was hard to find any guy that wanted anything but a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:56 PM
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It really isn’t. Unless you have no friends or social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:27 PM
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The young men where you live have no interest in casual sex or hookups? Seriously? I really doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:26 PM
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Femcels aren’t on the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:39 AM
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I already live in a big city the women who my friends introduce me to are single moms or heavy drug users or maybe things just dont work out. This is sounds like a lower socioeconomic area, I find it hard to believe that anyone living in a large metropolitan area with a high number of college grads is having a hard time finding childless women. Maybe move to NYC? Even most 40 year old women there are childless. Racial demographic? Asians are the most likely not to have children while Hispanics I…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:04 AM
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Dude, 10/150 million is 6% not 15%. That is literally nothing. I already repeatedly told you if you don’t want to date women with children to move to areas with a large number of childless women. Yet you continue to ignore my advice. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:44 AM
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And it’s declining, below 40% and continues to do so. 25% of couples who have children outside of wedlock go on to marry. Many European countries have higher outwedlock birth rates then the US yet still lower child poverty rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:03 AM
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Yes there is more childless now but theyre more with children as a percentage. Literally not true, the fertility rate in the US is at record low. You mean there are more women with children not married or in a long term relationship. But there is also way more women without children, if that wasn’t the case the egg count meme and trp obsession with childless career women trope wouldn’t exist. Even then teen pregnancy and percentage of children born out of wedlock is actually decreasing not incre…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:56 AM
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There are also significantly more childless women then before. It really shouldn’t hard to find them unless you live in a lower socioeconomic area. I don’t get trp, one minute everyone claiming most young women childless career cat ladies the next minute everyone’s claiming childless women are rare and every women is a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:43 AM
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It’s not women’s fault that men are so thirsty they clog up the dating sites causing the average women to get thousand of messages if they are not selective about who they decide swipe on. I’ll admit the longer I stayed on tinder the pickier I became, because I found if I wasn’t picky and swiped right on too many men I would get overwhelmed by the messages I got that I couldn’t reply to all them. It was better to be picky so I could at least manage the messages I got. Men outnumber women on tind…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:31 AM
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As of 2018 LESS than HALF were childless. Meaning the other half DO have children. Thats half the women already eliminated HALF. You realize that half includes older women who already have children? The statistics mentioned all women not just 18-30 year olds. Look there has never been more childless women then ever before, if you are really having a hard time finding women without children then move to a large city, an upperclass area, or a place with a lot Asians. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:18 AM
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Your point? If I wrote in my experience I don’t like being honest why I reject men because they get violent, I would still shamed for generalizing and being a feminazi.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:15 AM
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Based on the stats: “In 2018, 96.9 percent of women between the ages of 15 and 19 years old in the United States were childless -- the most out of any age group. In the same year, 15 percent of women between the ages of 40 and 44 years old were childless. Demographics of women without children As of 2018, a little less than half of all women in the U.S. were childless. About 63.5 percent of women without children did not have a high school degree, which is in line with the largest percentage of …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:12 AM
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Here a suggestion, why not meet women off tinder and online? I really don’t understand your guys insistence on using online dating when you constantly complain about: a. The gender ratio being massively not in your favor: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/go71bm/if_tinder_and_online_dating_are_so_great_for/ b. The few women on there who aren’t bots or sex workers, are incredibly low quality. Just meet women in real life, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:59 AM
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It was initially, but the mods and several posts there feel very incel now. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ncYKE6T-5vE
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:35 AM
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The majority of women under the age thirty don’t even have children, childless women are literally the norm in every large metropolitan. Maybe you just live in a lower socioeconomic area.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:31 AM
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You stated that women get aggressive with men they find attractive as if that was a rule. If I said men sometimes get violent when women reject them as evident by murder cases where guys flipped their shit because the girl ignored their cat call I would be called a feminazi and man hater.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:19 AM
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Exactly. They look for outrage porn to make themselves feel better that all the Stacies that rejected them will be sad and lonely at 30. When in actuality they’re sub is just a collection of them making fun of lower class single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:16 AM
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If I wrote something how women sometimes don’t wanna be honest when they reject men because there is a chance they might get violent especially since we have plenty of cases of men killing women after they ignored their cat call, I would be called a hysterical feminazi. But it’s ok for you to generalize women as being aggressive sex maniacs with any attractive men, the double standard of this sub is amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:04 AM
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whereareallthegoodmen has basically been taken over by incels at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:00 AM
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Most girls aren't interested in serious relationships compared to men that mostly are. What world do you live in where most 20 year old men are looking to settle down already or get married? Even with the incel types who are obsessed with finding a gf it’s usually under the pretense of getting regular sex not because they want to be married at 20. Seriously ya’ll act like women just spend their twenties turning down marriage proposals left and right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:33 PM
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Source? Because that’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:30 PM
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No serious redpiller has ever said that “all women” are secretly sluts, but that on average women have more sex than people think. The younger generation is having less sex btw: “Over the past few years, Jean M. Twenge, a psychology professor at San Diego State University, has published research exploring how and why Americans’ sex lives may be ebbing. In a series of journal articles and in her latest book, iGen, she notes that today’s young adults are on track to have fewer sex partners than me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:11 AM
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Nah, I already said repeatedly your experience was valid just not the norm based on available data we have which shows nightlife declining and alcohol consumption down. The only one getting frustrated here is you likely because you don’t like the studies I linked which is why you come up with excuses to dismiss or ignore them. You pretty obviously prescribe to the notion that all women between ages 18-21 are club going sluts, so you are not going to like studies that contradict this idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:25 AM
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I can’t be bothered to link you any statistics, but the figures in the Music Manifesto contradict your claims that the UK music/club/bar scene is dying heavily. It doesn’t just because niche markets are doing well doesn’t mean there hasn’t been an overall decline. If there wasn’t we wouldn’t see the decline of alcohol consumption among the younger generation. I remain unconvinced of your arguments and I can’t be bothered to argue with you anymore. Later. Whatever, your probably just mad because …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:19 AM
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You do realise statistics are often times wrong right? If statistics continue to show the same thing over and over again there is probably some truth to it. For example, you claim bars and such, clubs are on the decline. Yet I’ve spent much of the last two years being continuously reminded that the live music scene (that includes clubs) has actually been growing exponentially in the UK. Certain niche sectors of nightlife could be growing, that doesn’t stop nightlife from declining overall. Besid…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:11 AM
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Nope your perception is probably fine, just statistically an anomaly. In most places across the country, bars/clubs are on the decline and alcohol consumption is down among young people. You have an unusual experience, that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 07:51 AM
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I never said it’s bullshit. I’m saying something is wrong because it doesn’t match the reality I and many other men witness. Nothing is wrong, you and other men’s experience are just not the norm. You probably suffer from confirmation bias which causes you to reject evidence that doesn’t suit your agenda. It’s not a question of narrative. It’s about perception. Yes and this case your perception is wrong or you live in area that’s an anomaly. I really don’t know why you are surprised by this, it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 07:47 AM
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So the numerous studies showing clubs/bars are declining are bullshit? The statistics showing alcohol consumption among young people is declining is bullshit? Just say you don’t like the research because it contradicts your narrative because I can spend all day showing you study after study supporting this. It’s almost like your anecdotal evidence is just yours, and not supported at all by the statistics. This should be obvious unless you think your experience must be the truth above everything …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 07:40 AM
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Well you are one of the posters in this thread insisting that the majority of women between 18-21 are all club going sluts. I’m just pointing out that’s impossible since the bars/clubs are declining because less people are going out. Nightlife in general is on the decline, which is why alcohol consumption has declined: “Sales of nonalcoholic beer and cocktails are exploding. Nonalcoholic-beer sales have grown by 3.9% on average for the past five years, while overall beer sales have remained most…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 07:33 AM
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Your anecdotal evidence doesn’t contradict well established research showing that night clubs and bars are on decline. “In recent years, bars and nightclubs across the country have made their final last calls. The reality is that young Americans aren’t drinking like they used to. Instead of getting wasted at happy hour, Millennials are staying sober at “juice crawls.” This news has bad-boy brands scrambling to clean up their act for today’s straight-laced youths. Although technological and demog…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 07:17 AM
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I am not denying your anecdotal evidence, I am just pointing out it’s impossible that more young women are going out clubbing, when night clubs in general have been on the decline, which night club owners blame on millennials going out less.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 07:04 AM
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Maybe where you go, but there is a reason why sausagefest is a popular term and why nightclubs often have ladies night out and discount entry fees for women. It’s to prevent the nightclub from being overwhelmed by men creating a lopsided gender ratio, by attempting to attract more women. If nightclubs were usually even by gender or overwhelming women then these promotions would not be necessary. Besides nightclubs are dying, less people go out to them because they prefer to stay indoors to be en…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 06:56 AM
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Show me in the first article. You made the claim, so prove it by showing me. Besides the study does not say what you are claiming. You keep harping on about the nbc article, when the study it quoted doesn’t show what you are claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 05:33 AM
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It depends, on the circumstances. If he saw a high class escorts like those ones in legal brothels in Nevada, I would honestly be ok with it. In any other circumstances, like if he was picking up street walkers I would not be ok with it because I would worry about those women being trafficking victims. As long as prostitution is illegal, I would generally be uncomfortable with dating a man who used the services of prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 05:07 AM
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Where does it say otherwise? Please point to me where it says otherwise. Because the study clearly doesn’t say what you are talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:43 AM
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Besides, nightclubs are dying: “There’s a massive trend brewing in America’s nightlife scene. Nightclub and bar attendance has been on a steady decline for the past several years and counting. Nightclubs are going out of business left and right with more being threatened to close their doors each and every day. There has been a massive decline in liquor profits and overall revenue. This trend isn’t only exclusive to the United States; the U.K. has also been experiencing a similar drop in their o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:41 AM
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Those inconsistencies were debunked, the study says no such thing. If you don’t like the article, I’ve linked articles from different sites quoting the same study: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/health/millennial-hookup-culture-may-not-be-a-real-thing.amp https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5070284160001/#sp=show-clips https://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-millennials-less-sex-20160802-snap-story.html?_amp=true https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/20…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:16 AM
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What inconsistencies? You still haven’t pointed them out. The first one you brought up has been debunked as the study didn’t even measure the sexual frequency of couples in relationships. You just don’t like the studies for whatever reason because it doesn’t fit your narrative. GS National Survey has been doing what it’s been doing for decades, it has no reason to manipulate data to show the sex is declining among young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:05 AM
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Lol you should go read your data... or at least the comments I have read it clearly. Millennials are having less sex. If that wasn’t the case why would countless outlets from the Atlantic, New York Times, to Fox News and the National review report the same thing? Are they all misinterpreting the study too? And look, she can do all the research studies she wants... but if they’re tainted with regressive or feminazi bs, they’re simply not worth even a read... feminists believe there’s a wage gap L…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:55 AM
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At this point you are being deliberately obtuse. The first study I linked which you claimed it showed them saying sexual frequency increased among those in relationships, showed no such thing as the study didn’t even measure the sexual frequency of people in relationships. You were either lying or misread the data. The studies are peer reviewed by other scholars, which why they are cited. So now sexual frequency in relationships decreased (5 comments ago it was actually the same/increasing) and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:44 AM
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I wasn’t the one using a regressive-ideological article to justify my point... If you don’t like the article then read the study it quotes which I have linked multiple times, yet you continue to ignore it. I mean if you’re gonna say people in relationships are having more sex but suddenly millennials overall are having less sex then, and now it turns out that they’re actually getting laid less... I’m sorry but that’s contradicting yourself... again It does not say that. Point to me where it says…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:28 AM
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Using women’s behavioral patterns to justify men’s debt ? LOL wat Bruh you’re seriously saying that because women learned not to get in over debt , this mean men get more in debt No, they are saying women take debt management more seriously then men, and more cautious: “Two-thirds of people seeking budget and debt help at ClearPoint Credit Counseling Solutions (formerly known as CredAbility) in the first half of last year were women, compared with just 35 percent of men. Three-quarters of those …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:20 AM
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They are having the same amount of sex while everybody else’s is decreasing. So you’re using outliers as a justification for the main cluster of points ? Lmfao I’m seriously starting to question if you’ve ever taken a statistics class in your life... Did you even read the study? They don’t even look at couples or people in relationships: “Participants The GSS is a nationally representative sample of Americans over 18, collected in most years between 1972 and 2014 (N = 56,859; for the variables i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:10 AM
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Debt burden is higher among men: “As women observed the negative effects of the mortgage crisis and the Great Recession on other women, it reinforced their beliefs to use credit to bridge gaps in income. But perhaps more importantly, the experience of the Great Recession made women more cautious about taking on debt for non-essentials. This attitude of caution is a central reason why their financial position improved relative to the position of men," Erin George said. For example, the researcher…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:53 AM
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Tell me... are people having less sex or more sex ? It’s as simple as that... you cannot have the best of both worlds as both are quantitative methods. People are having less sex based on the surveys and studies that have looked at the issue. “Sexlessness has increased except for those in relationships” there you go, you are creating statistical inconsistencies now... That’s not statistically inconsistent. Less people in are in relationships and marry later, so those in relationship make up a sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:50 AM
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The study you cited, looks at debt in key areas. Overall men hold more debt then women: “According to a recent GOBankingRates study of 2,500 adults, men have three times more debt than women do. But that’s not exactly good news for women. Having less debt is generally a plus, but it may indicate the gender gap in homeownership. When GOBankingRates asked respondents about their mortgages, among other debts, men were more likely than women to report having a mortgage.” https://www.gobankingrates.c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:29 AM
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is a literal statistical incompatibility when they say college graduates in stable relationships report having sex more often. No it’s not. The they say people in relationships report having sex more often compared to other demographics but not compared to previous generations. Which is what this study is about. It’s comparing millennials to previous generations, and finds they are overall having less sex. The rate of sexlessness is higher among certain demographics but it has increased for all …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:18 AM
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They first say non-college graduates are getting less laid to justify their cause... No they say non college educated are less likely to report having sex when compared college educated ones. Not that they are the sole cause as to why young people are having less sex. literally a paragraph later they’re saying now college graduates are getting laid less There is no contradiction here. They are clearly saying that college students today are having less sex compared to previous generations. Compar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:07 AM
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Men do that? I've never seen it. Maybe those men are going to the wrong clubs. A common complaint on pua forums is the lopsided gender ratio. Where do you think the term sausagefest comes from? Why do you think so many bars/clubs give women preferential treatment with ladies night discounts or reduced club entry fees? Or why some clubs won’t allow single men in unless he has women with him? Its an attempt to attract more women and prevent lopsided gender ratios from manifeasting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 01:50 AM
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In none of your rambling have you demonstrated to me how the data is manipulated. You just don’t like the results because it doesn’t fit your narrative, so you are trying to find any excuse you can to dismiss them. I can show you study after study, which all come to same conclusion, younger people are having less sex. Yet you will continue to find any excuse you can to dismiss the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 01:37 AM
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It’s more economically feasible now... No it’s not. In the 1950s by 20 most young people had a steady job, owned their own house and car. How many young people today fit that bill today? Waiting to get married until you are economically stable to does not make someone a gold digger, it’s common sense. You probably complain about single mothers who have kids they aren’t suppose to, yet complain about older childless women who want to wait until they are ready economically before having children. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 01:31 AM
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The samples are manipulated lol How? I showed you a study that solely looked college students which showed less are having sex, and higher percentage are virgins. The fact that high school students lose their virginities later supports this. they literally say millennials aren’t getting laid because of a 2008 Recession that is being compared to the 1920’s DEPRESSION (once again an argument used by the regressive sheeple)... Well yes, the side effects of 2008 crash are still reeling. More millenn…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 01:21 AM
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Lemme ask you... why is it that it’s so complicated to get married early ? Weren’t women wanting to be leaders and bread makers ? Because even if they’re studying for it, all I see is women still trying to leech off men with higher incomes. People married earlier back then because it was more economically feasible. The times where a man without a college education could provide for a family of four with just a blue collar job are gone. Nowadays, if you want a well playing job you need to go to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 01:15 AM
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Since you mentioned the topic of college... And considering that more women are entering college nowadays... Women outnumbering men in colleges isn’t a western thing btw. Even in countries like Russia, Iran and Saudi Arabia, women make up at least 51-60% of college students. Those countries are far from being feminist paradises. Why don’t you see the ratio of engineering//chemistry(science-related) majors vs liberal arts majors nowadays ? I’m sure that women’s study degree earns you more than be…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:57 AM
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Ah, ok got it. Sorry for confusion everybody, I should of said quick marriages are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:49 AM
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Ah, didn’t know that. Here where I live in Utah, people just use it to refer anyone who marries quickly after meeting each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:47 AM
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If you see your potential husband as a wallet and a form of removing debt off your shoulders then yeah it’s unfeasible. Economic stability a plays a role in marriage stability. The economy today is a knowledge based one which means if you want a shot at a well playing job you need to go to college. College cost a lot of money. Not to mention rent and cost of living is soaring. It’s unreasonable to expect young people to marry at a young age nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:43 AM
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Here is the study yourself, you can take a look, the samples they use are meant to be nationally representative of US adult population: http://psy2.fau.edu/%7Eshermanr/SexualInactivityASBfinal.pdf Among high school students there has been a clear decline in the number of having sex: “To the relief of many parents, educators, and clergy members who care about the health and well-being of young people, teens are launching their sex lives later. From 1991 to 2017, the Centers for Disease Control an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:39 AM
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Ok, if you think women become ugly after 26, when do you think they should get married? You realize it’s unfeasible in today’s world to get married in your early twenties for your average millennial/ gen z person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:29 AM
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Utah lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:25 AM
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you seem to think it means a wedding that happens quickly? Yes, where I am from people use shotgun wedding interchangeably with people who marry quickly after meeting each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:19 AM
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It means quick or hurried marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:16 AM
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How are they being treated badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:16 AM
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Late 20’s is the average age when people get married. If the average couple dates for at least 3-5 years before tying the knot, then that means they meet in their early or mid twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:14 AM
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I was trying to demonstrate that that shotgun weddings aren’t the norm based on the available data we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:12 AM
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We mean that when her looks and fertility decline, her preferences conveniently changes to men she previously wouldn’t give the time of day to in her 20s. That also doesn’t make any sense, because most people still get married in their twenties, which means these women were partnering up with these men while still in their twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:10 AM
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there are many studies that prove depression is, and has been on the rise for quite a while now I know and most studies blame social isolation, social media and substance abuse (opioid epidemic) for why depression has been rising not, rampant prosmicuity which you seem to be implying. p&D’s and ONS are the norm, which completely limits the human interaction factor in terms of sexual-connection development People are having less sex, but also more people report having no sex at all, as well as le…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:08 AM
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Unfortunately, there are literally dozens of studies linking teenager-adult promiscuous behavior to depression... and that’s the main point, of course there are other reasons... unfortunately since the point of the conversation is casual sex and promiscuous behavior, then that’s the correlation given Yes but it is not only factor that leads to depression, which is what you were implying. There a whole host of factors that lead to depression including social isolation( due to social media teens a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 11:44 PM
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I'm around 18-22 year olds constantly. Most of them really are social media addicted club sluts. If this is true, then why do men constantly complain about clubs being a cockfest?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 11:34 PM
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why are depression rates in teens-young adults skyrocketing ? There are studies proving promiscuous behavior can lead to depression This is due to social media. Teens today are actually less promiscuous then in the past and lose their virginities later: “The new findings follow similar ones revealed by a 2016 US study, which found that just 44 per cent of teenage girls had lost their virginities compared to the 58 per cent who had 25 years ago. A similar pattern was true for boys too, with 47 pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 11:28 PM
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The gender ratio on online dating is pretty well established. Men greatly outnumber women on tinder by at least 3-1 ratio, with some statistics pegging that number at a 9-1 ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 09:51 AM
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Plus, in a lot developing countries, women are more likely to do sex work, perhaps on the down low due to economics. The only countries were that is not the case are basically theocracies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 10:28 PM
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I’m 22, and even I feel a bit weird being on the site because it seems like at least 50% of the people there are younger then me. Some of the girls and even boys post videos sexualizing themselves, it doesn’t surprise me the site attracts predators. But yeah most interactions go nowhere, I think most people still find it strange to meet people offline from social media. It’s interesting to see how much of teen social life has just moved online. My sister and her friends don’t even go out anymore…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 04:28 AM
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I’ve heard of tiktok before, I’ve never heard of people using it to try to date others though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 04:08 AM
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Never claimed it was dating app, but that it’s used by some to meet or befriend others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 04:07 AM
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I agree it’s cringe, but I would be interested in it from a social science standpoint on how it changes the way younger people meet or date. If you look at the video, they are basically advertising themselves like a product in a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 04:02 AM
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Yep, they are basically advertising themselves in a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 04:01 AM
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which explains why women use actual dating apps less, because they don’t need to. Yes but hooking up or finding a gf/bf still seems to be way less common on social media sites then on dating apps. My sister and her friends (male and female) have gotten interest but none of the interactions have gone anywhere beyond the initial conversation. Men dominating online dating sites maybe a side effect of creepy harassment that a lot women get on online dating apps. With sites like tiktok the interactio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 04:00 AM
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No lol. I am just curious if anyone heard of the app and if you would personally use it to try and date or hookup with people. Personally I wouldn’t but I was curious about other people’s answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 03:22 AM
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I already sent you the stats that said they have risen for all age groups. Again real wages have only increased among the 90th percentile of workers, for everyone else real wages have barely improved or increased. On top of the cost of living has risen faster then wages: “Meanwhile, wage gains have gone largely to the highest earners. Since 2000, usual weekly wages have risen 3% (in real terms) among workers in the lowest tenth of the earnings distribution and 4.3% among the lowest quarter. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 10:22 PM
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“A romantic friendship, passionate friendship, or affectionate friendship is a very close but typically non-sexual relationship between friends, often involving a degree of physical closeness beyond that which is common in the contemporary Western societies.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romantic_friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 10:01 PM
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Why not? Romantic friendships aren’t sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 10:42 AM
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Your painting a false binary, that women only have a choice between men they aren’t attracted to but will commit or men they find attractive but will never commit. It doesn’t work that in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 10:13 AM
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You can’t get true emotional intimacy from male friends. It’s honestly sad you feel that way. Maybe try befriending better people, so it will help you see that you can have a deep spiritual/emotional bond with someone outside of a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:31 AM
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But they still have risen compared to 2008 Only for the top wage earners in the United States, for everybody else wages have stagnated: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/ They take more years in education because we live in an increasingly specialized economy. Even if what you say is true the numbers don't account for a tripling in sexlessness. 1 in 3 men isn't a neet. Economist who have actually study the issue blame r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:23 AM
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The cost of living is rising at same rate as wages, which makes any wage gains useless. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/patrickwwatson/2018/09/25/real-wage-growth-is-actually-falling/amp/ This issue of young men labor force participation rates isn’t solely due to disability either: Something is rotten in the U.S. economy. Poor men without a college degree are disappearing from the labor force. The share of prime-age men (ages 25-54) who are neither working nor looking for work …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 08:35 AM
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The study you keep repeating, despite there being a significantly lower sample size and flawed methodology I pointed out last year. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/b93x9k/people_are_misinterpreting_that_washington_post/ Yet you ignore my study despite it having a larger sample size: http://psy2.fau.edu/%7Eshermanr/SexualInactivityASBfinal.pdf Hmmmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:08 AM
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Firstly, young white people includes both genders, or did that fly over your head? Secondly, this is the words of one reporter who could have and probably did misinterpret the study. I would have to see the full study or a diagram/graph from it to make an informed judgement. The data is all here for you to look at: http://psy2.fau.edu/~shermanr/SexualInactivityASBfinal.pdf This is hamstering. What am I supposed to do with this? I’m going to believe the actual data I see over a biased person tryi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:00 AM
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So, politicians are lying when they say immigration helps to mitigate the issue of low birth rates by increasing the number of young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 05:50 AM
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Dude I am done with this conversation, you can have last word. I am no longer going to respond to your posts because I don’t care anymore. Have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 04:07 AM
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I guess you missed this part: “Young white people, young women, and those who haven't attended college report the highest levels of sexual inactivity.“ I bolded the relevant part. This includes young white men, so no, it doesn’t show the “opposite” Rates of sexlessness among men aged 18-30 are higher than women aged 18-30 This study has a lot of issues I already went over last year: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/b93x9k/people_are_misinterpreting_that_washington_post/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:49 AM
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You are right. The biggest problem is a lot guys are depending on women to get their emotional intimacy from, when they can get that from their male friends as well. We need to learn to not stigmatize close male friendships again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:38 AM
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You seem to be jealous of them, we should start campaign so you can also taste some of Chad’s cock as well. It’s obviously what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:10 AM
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Oh you don’t have to tell me that. Men need sex more because of testosterone, but most do fine without it because they don’t have a choice Why don’t they have a choice? They can go get prostitute if they are so desperate which many do, which is why prostitution is a billion dollar industry despite being illegal. Yet you have way more women than men complaining about lack of sex during the quarantine (80/20 rule proven, since less men are complaining, because most men routinely go more than 4-8 w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 02:55 AM
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This was compared to their projections. Things have improved since 2008 for everyone. Again you are only looking at income and not taking into account inflation and cost of living. Also while unemployment rates on surface may appear to be lower, they are only counting people who are actively looking for jobs as unemployed. Workforce participation rates are down especially among young men. That’s why NEETs have become a phenomena: “In 2016, about 14 percent of 25- to 34-year old men weren’t in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 02:34 AM
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Or maybe, talking online is more superficial since the interaction feel less real.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:41 AM
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You seem to think about Chad’s cock a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:39 AM
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The economy is better in every way compared to when the crisis first hit. That’s the problem, millennials still haven’t recovered from the crisis. “For all the press about how millennials are the future of commerce, there is one big and rather problematic roadblock in that narrative. Millennials are kind of broke – and they might always be. That is the worrisome take-away from a new Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis study titled “A Lost Generation?” By the numbers, a typical family headed by a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:29 AM
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Lmao this quarantine has proven that (single) women can’t even go 4-8 weeks without fucking randoms. (80/20 rule proven - since most men go way longer than 4-8 weeks without sex) Women can go longer without sex then men: “Women find it easier than men to go without sex. An adult woman who is between relationships can easily go for months, sometimes even years, hardly thinking of sex and not minding if she doesn't have it. Men go nuts without sex (or at least some do). A man who loses his girlfri…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:23 AM
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They are still making more money compared to 2008 They are not if if you factor in cost of living and inflation. If what you say was the reason ,the phenomenon would have stopped or at least slowed down. Instead it is accelerating. Because more are living at home, your under this delusion that the economy has improved when it has not: Although other singles are now never more than a right-swipe away, and sex positivity means that many of us feel more comfortable exploring our sexuality—research …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:16 AM
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Do you they know you sit around on reddit analyzing their sex lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:11 AM
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It’s online dating, people are ruder online then in real life. Regardless, yes some get excited after matching with male model since they make up less then 1% of the population. But this sex filled fantasy your creating is not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:09 AM
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So everything we are saying is just speculative, it’s a waste of time then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:06 AM
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And millennial women aren’t also living at home too? More young men live at home then young women: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/08/14/male-millennials-more-likely-to-live-at-home-than-females-2/ Doesn’t matter. It still shows that women are sharing a smaller percentage of men, since more men than women are sexless That’s one study, other show the opposite: “The team analyzed data from more than 26,000 respondents to the General Social Survey, a nationally representative survey of U…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:04 AM
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You area is an anomaly. Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:59 AM
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causing the sexlessness epidemic among men More men are living at home that’s why they are having less sex: “More millennials are still living with their parents than any other comparable generation within the last century, as CBS News reported—and if there’s anything sure to put a dampener on keeping your most recent date up all night, it’s knowing that mom and dad are just next door. “Millennials have grown up in a culture and dating climate that is very different from that of their parents’ g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:56 AM
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Based on your writing, I really doubt you know any women in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:43 AM
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Lol, I’ve seen these incel threads on chad fishing and even most of them admit the women loose interest after a while once the novelty of matching with a male model blows over: Moreover, a Tinder match or conversation hardly measures up to the fantasy of a Chad’s rampant sexual conquests, or even a normal date, as a few incels have complained. “I give them a random address or a time and place for a date and they don’t follow through,” one redditor said of the women he messages as a phony Chad. “…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:40 AM
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Source? Your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:36 AM
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Things like living at home and lower wages, is going to affect your social life as a young adult. The economy may “improved” since 2008 but most jobs created since then have been low wage part time jobs. Millennials also have less wealth, and deal with higher rent prices along with more insane college debt then previous generations. Things are far from fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:35 AM
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Yet men outnumber women on online dating sites 9-1, really makes you wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:31 AM
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But wouldn’t online dating make that easier? Especially for unattractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:27 AM
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You guys made the claim first affirmatively, so you have to prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:26 AM
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I never made the claim it was a trend, it’s up you guys to affirmatively prove it. I have feeling if it was we would at least get on study about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 12:25 AM
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I disagree with the other guy. It’s not that they’re lying, it’s simply because they don’t need it. I understand that’s your perspective, but what perplexes me is online dating apps like tinder should be perfect for trp’s theory of female sexual strategy. It allows them to easily find beta orbiters and discreetly find chads to fuck without having to leave their home. So why aren’t more taking advantage of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:51 PM
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So no evidence just speculation that women are lying about whether they have ever used dating apps, just because. Totally makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:48 PM
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I’ll believe it’s a large scale trend like you guys are making it out to be if, there is statistics on it. For now it seems to be a niche thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:37 PM
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Why would young women lie about something as trivial like if they ever been on a dating site on an anonymous study? Especially since it’s so normalized by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:36 PM
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This is again just anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:31 PM
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Even when you just take into account those that have ever downloaded tinder, the ratio is still skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:30 PM
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Any statistics on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:27 PM
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colllect data on, especially in today’s politically correct culture. Why would that be politically correct? People study the sexual habits of young people all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:10 PM
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Do you have any statistics to indicate this is a trend? Because every time this topic comes up people just list anecdotal evidence as proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:07 PM
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My source on what? The Toronto massage spa incel attack? Just look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:04 PM
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People keep saying this but I have never heard of this happening and I went to a big party school.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:00 PM
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The number of people hooking up off on Instagram is way too small to be a larger trend. I’ve never heard of anyone hooking up from Instagram. Most people will friend or follow their matches on Instagram/Facebook though. That is not true, even among 18-21 year old crowd, the majority of young women have never downloaded tinder. Women across the board are more likely to report having never used online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:59 PM
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Most women have tried tinder at some point in their lives. According to the statistics, that’s not true. Even among 18-21 years olds, the majority have never downloaded tinder. Online dating apps are overwhelming men for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:46 PM
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The poster is right, hookup culture is not nearly as prevalent today as it was in the 90s, or even early to mid 2000s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:14 PM
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The economy has improved since 2008 but the phenomenon is actually accelerating. If the economy was the reason behind it would stop or even slow down. For some it did. More millennials are living at home more then ever, and are projected to make less on average then their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:13 PM
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It doesn’t matter what you say op, the guys on here won’t believe you because it contradict their women are evil ideology. Even that Washington post study which people liked to throw around was flawed and showed the the biggest reason why young men are having less sex is because more live at home. It should be obvious to anyone that partying, going out and drinking increases your odds are finding someone to have sex with. Millennials/gen z are less social in this regards that’s why bars/clubs ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:10 PM
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People keep sayings this, but if that is true why do men out number women on dating apps by a 3-1 or even some studies putting it at a 9-1 ratio? There aren’t three times as many men in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:30 PM
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Isolated incident or not, it shows legalizing prostitution won’t magically make incels more happy or calm. I support legalizing prostitution too, but I caution people in seeing it as a solution to everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 08:10 PM
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How is it weird when you are spewing feminist ideology and talking points? Your team says to never question women but always believe them. So saying not all women lie or get away with bad things = feminist ideology. You honestly sound like you have issues with women you need to work out, that’s why you just make assumptions and jump to conclusions when anyone challenges you on your thinking. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 08:08 PM
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Wasn’t there just a case of an incel attacking a sex workers with a machete in Canada? Yeah legalize prostitution isn’t going to help these guys, their problems are clearly beyond just not getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:55 AM
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In your entire quoting of the study... you forgot an important part... doesn’t matter if you quote other factors, the fact that women do absorb and present DNA cells from other former mates... proves how disgusting it is to POTENTIALLY have a family with a hoe. Except the study does not say that at all. The literally says women may or may not retain DNA from men they had sex through the fetus they had or through a miscarriage and abortion. And this does not happen 100% of the time. Nowhere does …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 03:30 AM
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What a weird question. To answer, no I don’t believe any women just because she says she is raped. I didn’t believe Christine Blasey Ford or Tara Reade because their stories didn’t add up. The exception would be if the women was a close friend or family member.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 03:07 AM
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So using the case of an elite, which represents trillions of dollars and less than 1% of the entire population, to justify how a person who barely owns millions (far away from trillions) is ''the elite''? Dan Bilzerian has a net worth of 200 million, and his father an estimated 80 million, that puts them in top 1% of people on this earth when it comes to money. 1st one... Women holding DNA from previous partners (the more partners, the less your child will actually look like you!!!) Tbh... if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 02:56 AM
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Hmmm. My mother works at a domestic violence shelter, and many of the women she had worked with over the years, have husband/boyfriends that are as far from looking from being attractive as possible. Sometimes women stay with abusive men because she a mental illness like codependency syndrome, she depends on him for security or she is still emotionally attached. I never heard of a women who stayed with an abusive man solely due to the fact he was attractive. I think you are also downplaying how …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 02:36 AM
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My friend, people can find them cringe... thing is they get laid, why? Because women are easy... The average man if he wanted to could also pay prostitutes to pretend to like them. Just lol, if you don’t think those women are hanging around Bilzerian because he pays them or promises them free stuff. That’s probably how he makes any friends bribing them with money, certainly not his charm. Do you seriously believe a guy like Dan Bilzerian could’ve existed in the Victorian era ? Pls Lol, what. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 02:07 AM
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Then why PUA’s are so successful? Lol Who says pua is successful? It’s largely looked down upon and viewed as cringe snake oil bullshit to most people. Why is Dan Bilzerian a thing? Lmao he literally tells women to compete for their friend’s attention. Bilzerian pays Instagram models to hangout with him, which gives him millions of followers because young men like seeing chicks with huge boobs holding guns. The dude is cringe, nobody would be proud that he was their son unless they were a shallo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:46 AM
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Nothing you said changes the fact, that the type of men trp worships chads, alphas, high status men etc, are probably the ones least attracted to their ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 12:34 AM
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It’s a genuine question. Do you honestly think men who have healthy social life’s are attracted to trp thinking? Or all those alpha males they admire like Jason Momoa or Keenu Reeves wouldn’t find their thinking to be strange or sad?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 12:05 AM
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So would you say men who are attracted to trp tend to be the autistic or socially challenged type which is why they need an entire movement to help them navigate social situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:44 PM
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Dude I asked a simple question: How many women do you know to make such a assertion as this: Women don't care and frequently aren't even able to analyze their progress through time. And if you had studies and evidence to support it. So far you have danced around the question and instead try to stir conversation into a completely unrelated topic You can have last word, I’m done with this conversation unless you answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:40 PM
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My motives are as simple as, you made a huge generalization and I want to know if you have any evidence to support your claim, because I suspect it’s purely a huge projection on your part. This conversation is useless because it clear you want to stir into another direction that I never even brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:34 PM
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Sigh. You claimed: Women don't care and frequently aren't even able to analyze their progress through time. I’ve asked you specifically to back this claim up with evidence, instead you gave me a bunch of links to evolutionary psychology studies about long term and short term mating strategies. It’s clear we are not even having the same conversation here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:31 PM
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No offense but why would you need trp for that? Anybody would tell you there red flags in somebody which should cause you to avoid them or to listen to your gut when you are with somebody. If a person has repeated history of cheating people, you should probably avoid, nobody would argue against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:26 PM
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Still waiting on those studies you said you had. Where are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:23 PM
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So you got nothing? So I am right that it’s just a huge projection on your part?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:16 PM
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women are the most depressed they’ve been in history... so all that second paragraph is completely invalidated by the fact that women are the most depressed they’ve been as of right now... Do you think women in the Middle Ages were on average happy with their low life expectancy, hard living and dangerous childbirths? People in general are more depressed due to technology and social isolation, that’s why suicide rates have risen sharply for both genders and why we have an opioid crisis in former…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:12 PM
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Thousands of N in the studies that I've referenced. Cite those studies then. Do you have a point to all this or are you just gonna sit in the spot between soft and hard science and pretend you're doing anything at all? Again you made a huge generalization, I asked to back it up with studies otherwise it appears to be a huge projection on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:57 PM
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You can settle for and find any women you want I don’t care. What don’t like is this very obvious infantilism of women by redpill types where they want to paint any struggle and hardship a women has endured as a sign of as being broken when it’s literally part of being an adult. Be honest, if the genders were reversed in the story above, you wouldn’t have the same reaction. This attitude very obviously stems from the inability to view women as complete human beings instead of objects that can be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:53 PM
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Dude you mad a huge generalization and I asked if you could back it up with evidence otherwise it’s just sounds like pure projection on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:44 PM
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‘Women don't care and frequently aren't even able to analyze their progress through time.’ How is that not a massive generalization, if your going to claim such things at least try to back it up with evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:37 PM
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It’s as simple as that, no man that respects himself will ever take some below average pussy that’s FREE to acquire That’s your problem you view relationships through a transactional lens, in which the man is the buyer and the women is on what is on sell. To you a women who has experienced bad things and struggles is used goods like a dirty car because you don’t view them as human beings but objects. In the real world, healthy adults pursue relationships based on shared interest, chemistry, comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:34 PM
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Women don't care and frequently aren't even able to analyze their progress through time. How many women do you know to make such an assertion?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:29 PM
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What makes her leftovers? Well the relationship last longer then a lot marriages, so I would say they are doing pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:17 PM
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People go through problems and it's completely natural. Nobody is perfect or has the perfect life. I agree, but for a lot on this sub, women experiencing problems and making mistakes makes them “used goods’ or ‘emotionally damaged.’
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:15 PM
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Apparently, she and her husband have been married for eighteen years, that’s longer then a lot marriages, so for somebody who is broken she seems perfectly capable of maintaining a long term relationship according to her words. I think this is an example of wanting to shelter women because I bet if a man had wrote a similar story about how in his twenties he had string of bad relationships due to desperation and emotional trauma from his childhood. Something he was able to overcome due to intros…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:07 PM
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Most people experience some sort of emotional damage or trauma in their life, it called living in the real world. Not all of us are so lucky to go through life without ever experiencing anything bad in the realm of relationships. It really seems like a lot of redpillers basically want women to live like children, sheltered away from the realities of the world and bad experiences, when that is impossible since they are a parcel of being an adult in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:49 PM
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I get that the “he’s such a nice guy” plays into the whole “Nice Guys” and “No More Mr. Nice Guy” deal, but I would describe my husband as someone who is very nice and personable. The fact that she described her husband as nice is what they seem to be hung up on. They seem to think when a woman describes a man as nice, it means they aren’t attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:43 PM
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Based on what she is writing, she likely had codependency syndrome, that didn’t fully go away until she finally let go of the idea that she had to get married and that it was ok to be alone. Once she started to be less ‘desperate’ in her words she started to be wiser in who she chose to date. It sounds like she had no standards before because she was desperate to be in a relationship. To me that just shows character growth and maturation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:41 PM
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I just chose the picture because they reminded frat and sorority kids at my school.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:11 PM
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I thought cc involved sleeping around indiscriminately, here she claims to have been in a “string of very bad relationships.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:07 PM
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Thanks :). Arguing with ppd posters like this is kind of my hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:42 PM
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I feel bad for the murdered people’s families that the person who likely killed their loved one is out living life while they still suffer. If that makes me a man hater so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:40 PM
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I love how much effort you put in denying female privilege exists. How me denying so called benevolent sexism makes me look silly is beyond me. Maybe when you decide to enter reality you see female privilege in fact exists: https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/chart-of-the-day-for-every-100-girls-women/ How does that show female privilege? More women apply to college therefor go to college. This is trend is not limited to Western countries, in places like Iran, South Korea, Russia and even freakin Sau…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:34 PM
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I don’t go to that school, it’s literally a random picture I got off pinterest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 07:58 PM
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What does a chad look like to you? Maybe we have different aesthetics in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:31 AM
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Lol, how does my post indicate any hatred whatsoever against men? If anything I get a much bigger sense of hostility against women from you. It’s objectively true that OJ despite likely killing his wife enjoys tons of twitter followers, and a comfortable life where he can post videos and pictures of him freely doing things in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 07:26 AM
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Love the boogeyman and the denial of female privilege. How is that privilege when it literally states male judges view women through a more paternalistic lens, which is why they are more lenient. That’s literally a form of benevolent sexism, denying it just makes you look silly. It’s the same reason that statistically judges sentence black people longer for the same crimes then whites because they view whites as more innocent thus more childlike. Or studies showing light skin black people get se…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 07:20 AM
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Regardless, he has tons of twitter followers, memes, and is out living life fine despite the fact he likely murdered two people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:36 AM
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The disparity between men and women in the justice system, is due to male judges benevolent sexism. If you want more fairness support more women becoming judges: “The evidence regarding the treatment of female and male offenders by female and male judges is less consistent. Two studies found that female judges imposed similar sentences on male and female defendants, whereas male judges sentenced female defendants more leniently than male defendants. Although these results suggest that female jud…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:33 AM
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Yeah, men have never ever gotten away with murder before 😒. It’s not like OJ Simpson who the op is comparing Carole Baskin to didn’t have a laundry list of evidence against him, yet was still acquitted. Or that the person accusing Carole Baskin, isn’t some bastard who tried to murder her or has a questionable history including animal cruelty and defrauding people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:15 AM
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Most men in the top 20% are attractive by default. What I’m saying is what is considered the top 20 or 10% differs depending on where you live. In my mom’s hometown any man that is not overweight, can keep a steady job and doesn’t have an opioid addiction is already the top 20% of men. But would men like that be the top 20% in say a place like New York? Probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:05 AM
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10% of 500,000 is 50,000 hawt guys to go around for 100% of women. So even 80 year old grandmas, Middle Aged housewives and underage girls are hooking up with chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 03:59 AM
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Really? I’m actually surprised by some of these answers, that I’m starting to wonder if anyone here has actually ever set foot on a college campus or has a very skewed perception of average. The young men above look like your average frat dudebros to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 03:39 AM
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Those women will almost always swoon over him, and every guy who dates those women after Chad has come through will forever be compared to Chad and looked down for not matching up. Unless she was in an emotional long term relationship with him or he was her first love then I doubt that is true. You are confusing love with lust, most women try to forget their hookups since they usually aren’t pleasurable or happen due to embarrassing circumstances, ex: being very drunk. Plus who says guys who are…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 02:42 AM
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I need to know what a chad is to you, because I’ve been getting contradictory answers. Is a chad a simply a very attractive man or any man that is in the top 10% as you put it because in many places just not being fat, being employed or not having a drug addiction puts a man in the top 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 02:25 AM
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So are women hooking up with ‘chads’ in their 60s, 70s?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 12:51 AM
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On tinder, 100% of women consistently rate 80% of men as below attractive, that means that 100% of women are rating only 20% of men as attractive. That’s not on tinder but on Okcupid, which already showed that women are still reaching out and contacting the men who they rated below average. This is also extrapolated in the real world. You see it in colleges where all the women flock to the football and basketball players and the rest of the men are ignored. Back to the math Source? Or just your …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 11:07 PM
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It was good documentary, so it deserved it. I remember watching it in high school as part of our sex Ed class, none us were exactly sheltered but even we were shocked and taken aback by the teens behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 04:18 AM
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There was a good documentary about this called The Lost Children of Rockdale County‘ it shows what happens when you combine aimlessness, boredom, bad parenting, lack of family structure, peer pressure, and general teenage angst. Just an all around mess, I always wondered what everyone who appeared in that documentary is up to. Although I really wouldn’t call Rockdale county a rich suburb, it just didn’t cost much to have a big home back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:52 AM
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My conclusion would be that there is too many factors to take into consideration when measuring the size of the sex industry in any country such as demand, legality, government policies, stigma etc. Places that are more socially liberal may be more ‘open’ about it but that doesn’t correlate to a larger sex industry and more sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:41 PM
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Okay then back your assertion that more sexually conservative places have larger sex industries? I never said that, I said that the sex industry still flourishes in places where sex negative attitudes are in place. But anyways here is some data about countries with the most sex workers per capita. With exception of Germany which has huge problem with sex trafficking of East European women, almost all these countries are developing ones. Some of the data may be inaccurate but nether the less it s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:56 PM
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Huh? I said the numbers for the US and India may be unreliable because prostitution is either outright illegal creating an underground black market or operates in a legal grey area with stigma, sex trafficking, poverty and crime obscuring the scope the of the prevalence. The numbers for Australia and Sweden are likely more accurate since prostitution (at least selling in the case of Sweden) is legal and the problem with sex trafficking aren’t as pronounced.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:38 PM
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How so? Prostitution outside of Nevada is illegal, we have no idea how many prostitutes are voluntary or sex trafficking victims. How many of them are foreign nationals or natives. Also are you going to ignore my stats for Sweden and Australia?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:30 PM
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We have no way of knowing how many prostitutes there actually are in either India or USA since it’s impossible to track due to stigma, illegality and sex trafficking. Sexual attitudes don’t influence the rate of prostitution, a multitude of factors do. Sweden and Australia are some of the most liberal countries in the world in regards to sex yet it’s estimated only 20,000 out 20 million people on Australia are prostitutes that’s 0.01% of the population. In Sweden the numbers are 2,500 out of 10 …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:18 PM
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South Korea: Despite Korea's rapid economic advancement, the country has yet to catch up to the notion of nontraditional families. Single moms are still forced into the shadows of society — ostracized by family members, discriminated against at work and all the while, trying to raise children without a network of support. Production of pornography is illegal, although amateur material known as Yadong exists. Consequently, Koreans mostly consume pornography from overseas, especially Japanese porn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:56 PM
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I'm not sure what the point was of this comment then? I was thinking of countries like India, China and South Korea who despite having deeply conservative attitudes about sex (South Korea bans internet pornography) have a thriving sex industry. Do Quatar, Kuwait or the UAE then. You know that PPP corrects for this also right? I am interested in if your claim above is true. All three countries you listed practice heavy censorship and have a thriving underground sex trafficking problem due to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:30 PM
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Comparing Saudi Arabia, to any country is dumb since it’s literally a totalitarian government that uses heavy censorship. You also have to take into account relative poverty versus absolute poverty. Average person in the US may be ‘richer’ on average then the average person in Saudi Arabia but what is considered poor in either country differs due to differences in cost of living, wages, government benefits etc. With the COVID causing mass unemployment, the student loan debt crisis, lack of free …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:15 PM
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The argument is that the proliferation of this pornographic content is primarily due to cultural shifts away from sex-negative attitudes. Perhaps, but that doesn’t explain why the sex industry also blossoms in conservative countries where sex negative attitudes prevail. The likely cause of the proliferation of pornographic material is economic hardship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:58 PM
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The reason why these things exist is because there is a market for them, if there was no market they wouldn’t exist. Even if women collectively stopped doing porn, prostitution or cam girl work, men would come up with different ways to satisfy their needs through sex trafficking, 3D technology or sex robots. It’s clear demand is what’s driving the sex industry. Just look at onlyfans, it has over 24,000,000 million(!) subscribers versus 18,000-500,000 content creators.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:44 PM
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Sorry but no, if there was no demand there wouldn’t be a supply. In fact, the demand often outweighs the supply which is why sex trafficking still exists even country where prostitution is legalized. Some studies have actually even shown legalizing prostitution worsens sex trafficking because it greatly increases the demand of those who want to pay for sex, while supply of those willing to get paid for sex stays the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:32 PM
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That’s worldwide, that’s literally nothing. Also doesn’t take into account active creators, which according to onlyfans is 18,000 worldwide. Even if you look just at the US population 18,000 divided by 165 million x 100= 0.01% of the female population( not taking into account gay creators since the site is popular in the lgbtq community) that is in an insignificant amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:11 PM
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Don’t play dumb, I know what you are all about. Have good day, this conversation has definitely been illuminating because I now have even better understanding of your type and your agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:22 PM
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Not it’s not, stop listening to redpill dogma.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:19 PM
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That’s interesting. A lot people seem to think men who visit prostitutes are the desperate type that can’t get it anywhere else but your anecdotal shows that isn’t always the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:51 AM
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The percentage of women who do porn is too low for it make much of difference in the general public’s opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:46 AM
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Complaining ≠ wanting to ban I definitely don’t think porn should be ban, but also not one those people who thinks porn has no problems with it. Watching porn can give people a skewed idea of how sex works and problems can arise in relationship because of that, as unfortunately many young people (male and female) get their sex education from porn. TERFs are a fringe movement, their ideas on transgenders would disqualify them from being welcomed in any mainstream liberal/left wing movement nowada…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:39 AM
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There is literally no movement to ban porn, sex negative feminists under the age 30 are pretty much an extinct species at this point, as everybody has swallowed the ‘sex work is work’ mantra. If porn ever gets banned in the US it would likely be do to religious conservatives rather than feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:27 AM
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Lol, most of the people leading the ban porn movement are right wing religious Christians and weird no fap alt right advocates who think porn is an evil Jewish plot to destroy morale of men. Sex negative feminist are basically extinct minority in the under 30 crowd where the mantra ‘sex work is work’ is required thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:21 AM
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The agenda you are advocating for is wrong, I will continue to speak out against it. I am not dumb, I know what posters with your agenda are all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:47 PM
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Did you read the link? “The team analyzed data from more than 26,000 respondents to the General Social Survey, a nationally representative survey of U.S. adults that includes members of both the Millennial generation and its predecessor, Generation X.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:44 PM
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Is 26,000 not a big enough of a sample size? People are having less sex, this is something that social scientists, psychologists, and sex therapists have all noted. Young people today are growing up slower due to a more extended adolescence that’s why risky behavior, such as drug/alcohol usage, teen pregnancy, HIV among teens have all decreased.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:31 PM
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If men want to look at their partners sexual history to find compatible match that’s their right, but I know the reason why you are trying to paint paternity fraud as being more rampant than it actually is, because you want to use it as justification to advocate restricting female freedom. This is an old trick, Ancient Greek society often portrayed women as being more prone to infidelity and sexually depraved in order to justify keeping them locked up in the house while men were free to have sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:21 PM
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Do tell, how can women be at fault for the sentencing disparity between men and women when they don’t even makeup the majority of judges? Who is mostly doing these sentences? I think we know the answer. Your view of the modern gender dynamic is outdated, in most households women contribute to at least 40% of the finances and increasingly more likely to be the better educated ones in newlywed marriages. https://ifstudies.org/blog/a-record-share-of-men-are-marrying-up-educationally Also point out …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:32 PM
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The numbers you posted were unreliable as it took genetic test done in the 70s 80s and 90s when dna testing was at its infancy and less reliable, I have repeatedly pointed this out to you: “A 2005 scientific review of international published studies of paternal discrepancy found a range in incidence, around the world, from 0.8% to 30% (median 3.7%).[5] However, as many of the studies were conducted between the 1950s and the 1980s, numbers may be unreliable due to the inaccuracies of genetic test…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:07 PM
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Young men are bringing the average way down. Nope, the number of sex women are having is decreasing as well, Americans in general are having less sex: “The team analyzed data from more than 26,000 respondents to the General Social Survey, a nationally representative survey of U.S. adults that includes members of both the Millennial generation and its predecessor, Generation X. Among Americans ages 20-24 now, the results showed 15 percent had no sexual partners since turning 18. Young white peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 07:25 PM
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we're seeing a rise in men wanting to be women because of that easy mode that I don't think existed thirty or forty years ago. The rate of transgenderism is rising the fastest among young girls, so there can be several factors why transgenderism is growing. Plus a lot of developing countries like Thailand and Iran have high rates of transgenderism as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:38 PM
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Interesting. However, I never heard of anyone meeting somebody off of Instagram, not saying it doesn’t happen but I haven’t seen it in real life to give it much thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:15 PM
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Or maybe we have different experiences. Is there any data or studies to show how many millennials/gen zers are meeting/hooking up off of Instagram or Facebook, because so far people have only given anecdotal evidence that this is a trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:08 PM
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No, I’m in my early twenties and I have legitimately never heard of anyone hooking up or forming a relationship from Facebook or Instagram. Most girls I know ignore their Instagram dms. I have heard of people friending each other on Facebook or following each other on snapchat/Instagram based off of matching with each other on tinder/bumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:02 PM
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Women use social media such as Instagram and Facebook as defacto dating apps. Most people under 30 don’t really use Facebook. Is there any data to support the idea of people hooking up off Instagram?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:37 PM
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Are there any studies which highlight how many people use Instagram to date and hookup?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:35 PM
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Bumble which has a better reputation has the same disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:22 PM
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But wouldn’t online dating sites like Tinder make that even easier then real life since they don’t have to go through the social situations to get what they are looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:19 PM
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Sigh. I already pointed out data which shows the 10-30% number you continue to cling on to was a biased sample because it was looking at men who already suspected they weren’t the father taking dna tests. I already told you that the 10% number you listed for the Canadian sample was unreliable due to fact that many of the test the number was taken from came from the 70s, 80s , and 90s when dna was at its infancy and less reliable then today. I gave you studies that were recent and when genetic te…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:52 PM
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Of course you are going to make excuses, because the data makes men look bad. If it was other way around with 86% out of 37 million people on a site specifically for cheaters were women you would not be coming up with excuses for them. A lot men have the desire to cheat and will take their own initiative to cheat even if they are happy in their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:49 AM
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Haha, I knew it, you are going to dismiss the data because it paints men in a bad light despite it being one the biggest sites for infidelity in the world. If the data painted women in a bad light you would be all over it. Men also don’t need Ashley Madison to cheat, they can use sex workers which I study I linked showed many do and meet women in real life to cheat with. Any women will tell you of one incident of a married men making a pass at them in real life or on the internet. The data from …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:37 AM
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Whose to say the men on that site are mostly in committed relationships? Um the data? Did the you read the link above? https://i.imgur.com/SfPiYKM.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:20 AM
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I knew you would say that, but I know for a fact if the numbers were other way around, if 86% of the 36 million members of a site that’s sole purpose is to connect you with others to cheat were women, every red piller would be using that as evidence of women’s susceptible to disloyalty. But because it’s men you are going to dismiss it. You are likely going to say the reason why women cheat more is because it’s easier for them to get laid, but that completely discounting the fact that men use sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:45 AM
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Men also get aroused when they see hot women. That’s why I experienced several instances of married men attempting to flirt with me when their wives weren’t around. Men are notoriously disloyal just look at the Ashley Madison, demographics, a site created specifically for cheaters. Guess which gender is the overwhelming majority of users? “The email addresses of around 37 million accounts registered to the site have been leaked, and in amongst them is some pretty interesting information about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:20 AM
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The sexual revolution was started by men, like playboy which in the 50s was advocating for the bachelor lifestyle and no string attach sex. You confuse the feminist movement with the hippie free love when the two were separate. In fact many feminist had a problem the hippie movement because they felt aspect of it were misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:38 AM
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That’s a far cry from the sensational title that “Women absorb and retain DNA from every man they have had sex with.” in truth it appears that may retain the male dna of man who she previously had a child with but even that’s unclear: “A total of 154 girls were studied of which 21 (13.6%) tested positive for male microchimerism. There was a tendency that girls were more likely to test positive for male microchimerism if their mothers previously had received transfusion, had given birth to a son …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:19 AM
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There is no evidence that female infidelity causes more marriage breakdown. Many men get aroused when they see hot women, so your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:12 AM
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Who says men are disgusted by promiscuous women? Um many of the men on here, just read this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/gj4mtx/where_does_this_obsession_with_womens_sex_lives/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:05 AM
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“The significance, in the case of that specific research paper, was that it demonstrated that these male cells — wherever they came from — were able to cross what is known as the blood-brain barrier — a semi-permeable membrane that prevents most chemicals in the blood from entering the brain. The linked study, in fact, does not once mention sexual intercourse as a proposed mechanism. This is as close as you will get from the PLOS ONE paper:” “The most likely source of male [microchimerism, Mc] i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:52 AM
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Study has been debunked: https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/3558598/no-women-do-not-absorb-and-retain-dna-from-every-man-they-have-sex-with/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:21 AM
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There really needs to be a thread about this because many guys seem to have this very black and white picture of history in regards to sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:17 AM
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Uh no. Research has consistently shown that the biggest factor in martial stability, was age, economic status, and education. Poor, undereducated, young people have the highest divorce rate of any demographic group.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:13 AM
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The gap infidelity of 1% is statistically insignificant. Also you may say the reason why women cheat more is because it’s easier for them to get laid, but that completely discounting the fact that men use sex workers to cheat as well: “Another gender difference: Among those who reported having extramarital sex in the past year, men were much more likely than women to have paid for—or to have received payment for—sex, at about 12 percent compared to just 1 percent.” https://www.colorado.edu/asmag…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:06 AM
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I didn’t say that? I’m saying if a man has enough money to spend on prostitutes regularly especially high class one, he’s probably above average financially compared to the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:33 PM
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Then why is male infidelity more likely to be a bigger factor in divorce then female? What about Ashley Madison cheating site where it ended the vast majority of people on the site were men? This image you are painting of women being sex crazed animals that can’t control themselves cheating with every good looking men that comes their way is laughably dumb. Both men and women cheat because they have low morals, no evidence women cheat more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:24 PM
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Most estimate I know put the US population at 330 million but whatever. The 10% was already debunked so I have no idea why you are still clinging on to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:10 PM
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A lot you are claiming it’s desperation, but I would assume any man that has enough disposable income on sex workers probably has other options if he wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:08 PM
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Nah, affairs with prostitutes aren’t anything new. In Ancient Greece most passionate love affairs between men and women were usually high class prostitutes like Hetaerae who were seen as companions and lovers unlike wives who were viewed as just child bearers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:55 PM
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The 36 million you pulled out was either due to bad math or misunderstanding the numbers but already contradicted the number when I took the entire us population into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:50 PM
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That’s interesting. When do you think this happened? I’ve also noticed the trp has moved away from this enjoy the decline mindset when they were focused on sleeping with women and doing their own thing while society collapsed. Now it’s like they have become religious reactionaries, constantly posting outrage porn about how much they hate the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:24 PM
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There are total of 74 million children in the United States under the age 18, 1% of that equals 740,000 which is a lot but far from 36 million. Even if you took the entire population entire US population which is 330 million 1% of that is 3.3 million not 36 million. The consistent thing they found in the researcher is that paternity fraud tends to be higher in places with higher rates of poverty and violence not single motherhood. Average birth rates are about 1.8 and dropping. Do I think there …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:17 PM
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Have you ever talked to a sex worker? It’s actually very common for their clients to fall in love with them. And most of these men aren’t the desperate type either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:35 PM
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It also shows women with 3-9 sexual partners have lower divorce rates then those with only two, which indicates there isn’t a direct correlation between sexual partners and likelihood to divorce. Other factors must be considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:30 PM
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Incel insult literally only came up after one committed a terrorist attack, they weren’t on most people’s radar at that time. Men don’t insult virginal women? Really is that why the word prude exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:15 PM
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Did the read the studies? According to the research women with 3-9 sexual partners are the least likely to divorce, less likely to divorce then women with only two sexual partners, which contradicts the claim their is a link between martial stability and the number of sexual partners, other factors may be at play here then solely sexual history. Also the link on martial happiness showed women with high amount sexual partners having a greater degree of martial happiness then those with medium, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:08 PM
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Not quite, in fact there is some evidence that women with high sexual partners are able to go on and have happy marriages: “Table 1 shows how a women’s sexual biography affects the happiness of her marriage.2 The first column includes the baseline estimates. Women who’ve only slept with their spouses are, at 65%, most likely to report very happy marriages. Thereafter, there’s a decline that’s statistically-significant but modest in magnitude. The lowest odds of marital happiness, 52% in the base…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:33 PM
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That study must be an outlier, as most studies put the number at 1% or less in most western countries. The article you are listing the number 10% comes is unreliable since many of the studies when the genetic test were conducted were in the 70s, 80s, 90s and early 2000s when genetic testing was still flawed and at its infancy. The studies I list above are more recent when genetic testing was more accurate. “A 2005 scientific review of international published studies of paternal discrepancy found…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:21 PM
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You don’t get what I am talking about, I am not just talking about men not wanting to mate with women with high n counts, I don’t care it their right. I am talking about the deep OBSESSION that many men have with this topic. Sure many women don’t want to date men who’ve been with men but you are not going to find entire forums, threads, and subreddits dedicated to figuring out, analyzing and studying how many men have had sex with other men the same way you see obsessing over women’s sex lives. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:03 PM
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Why does a higher number of sexual partners make women rotten or spoiled? What is it about sex that makes women dirty but has no negative effects on men? It doesn’t make sense from a biological standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:58 PM
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Things aren’t as clear cut as you make it. As crookedsummer2019 pointed out their are studies that contradict the claim that those with higher amount sexual partners are more likely to cheat: “Furthermore, commitment, but not sociosexuality, predicted sexual infidelity in the current relationship and this effect emerged even among sociosexually unrestricted individuals (Studies 1 and 2). No additional gender differences were found across studies. These results converge with findings suggesting t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:56 PM
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Why does having a lot sex break women emotionally? Why does sex take such a toll on women if it’s meant to natural?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:44 PM
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The problem with those statistics, is it’s already measuring the paternity fraud of men who suspect they are not the father, so specific population group, not an unbiased sample group: “Recent evidence suggests that seeking out extra-pair paternity (EPP) can be a viable alternative reproductive strategy for both males and females in many pair-bonded species, including humans. Accurate data on EPP rates in humans, however, are scant and mostly restricted to extant populations. Here, we provide th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:28 PM
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Source on 10-30% of women committing paternity fraud? Because most studies I’ve come across have it nowhere near that high: “Another widespread myth has been busted, this time the belief that a large proportion of fathers are tricked into thinking their children are biologically their own. The myth has sustained a thousand talk shows and made companies offering paternity tests rich, but none of that makes it true. "Media and popular scientific literature often claim that many alleged fathers are…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 06:55 PM
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If you go to anonymous male dominated message board most still say they don’t want a virgin and greatly prefer to have sex before marriage. After all the initial sexual revolution was started by men (playboy) so why would they want to go back?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 06:38 PM
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Huh? Young people today are having less sex then their parents. This is well documented social phenomena, just look it up. This image you are painting of everyone partying and having hedonistic sex may apply to your social circle but most college students do not participate in hookup culture. “Over the past few years, Jean M. Twenge, a psychology professor at San Diego State University, has published research exploring how and why Americans’ sex lives may be ebbing. In a series of journal articl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:04 AM
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I already showed you studies that contradict yours which showed the prevalence of violence is by a greater degree committed by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:59 AM
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I’m sorry but what is more violent shooting someone or pushing someone? The fact that men commit the most severe most depraved forms of violence makes them the more violent gender. Mass shooting, gang rapes, drive by shootings, child molestation, genocide, and terrorist attacks are among some the most violent crime and depraved acts committed, and are overwhelming committed by men. Also according to most statistics I’ve read women are more likely to be victims of domestic violence then men, this…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:56 AM
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Most teachers caught sleeping with their students are men, this is despite the fact women outnumber male teachers. Student teacher sex scandals involving women just get more attention from the media: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/03/14/business/media/fox-news-women-teachers-sexual-predators.amp.html “Nationally women make up 76% of teachers. In the latest available statistics, in 2014, just under 800 school employees were prosecuted for student sex crimes, for student sex cri…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:34 PM
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Lol what. Women do get arrested for besality and domestic violence. Show me evidence of police refusing to arrest a women caught committing besality. More men are arrested for besality because they commit it more period. Men are the more sex crazed gender that’s why prostitution remains a rampant and profitable business.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:28 PM
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If you are talking quantity of violence then men take the cake. The violence in Latin America such as Brazil that has more murders then any western county combined are overwhelmingly committed by men. The violence you see in war zones overwhelming committed by men. Most low level violence like assaults, robberies, forcible rape, etc are mostly committed by men. That’s why men are more likely to be victims of violence, is largely at hands of other men. Women on women murders by contrast are far l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:22 PM
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Most besality is committed by men, this is a statistical fact. http://jaapl.org/content/early/2019/05/16/JAAPL.003836-19
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:07 PM
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You still don’t get it, nobody cares about fds because it’s members haven’t advocated for and inspired terrorist attacks. It doesn’t matter if most incels don’t commit terrorist attacks, the ideology has demonstrated its has the ability radicalize individuals to commit violence. Until you show me post where FDS members have advocated raping and enslaving men, I am going to dismiss your claim. Another incel member in the wild: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:00 PM
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More men kill their family members then women. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1725901002 Most attempted murders are committed by men well as deadly assault. Men are more successful at committing violence because they do it way more often. Women are less violent not cowardly, learn the difference. I wouldn’t call those isis male fighters who are raping, beheading and genociding people heroic. They are fucking cowards going after soft targets, just like most violent criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:49 PM
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A small percentage of Muslims commit terrorist attacks in the west, does that mean we shouldn’t worry about radical Islamic terrorism? The fact is the reason why incels are looked down upon and nobody cares about fds is because the former has committed terrorist atracks, it doesn’t matter if a small percentage have only committed violence, the ideology espoused by them has shown capacity to inspire violence which is enough to put people on edge. So much so that the fbi considers them a domestic …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:21 PM
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Bullshit, in fact women are more likely to kill their spouses in self defense then men. Close to 50% of women who are murdered are murdered by a spouse versus 5% of men. Men are more likely to be victims of violence due to the high rates of men attacking them not women. Moreover, most gang shootings, mass shootings and terrorist attacks are committed by men which are not justified violence at all. The extreme violence you see in the third world, mostly committed by men. The rape and murders you …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:09 PM
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You are forgetting about Scott Paul Beierle, another incel who went on a mass shooting spree: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/local/yoga-shooting-incel-attack-fueled-by-male-supremacy/ Also: “At least four mass murders, resulting in a total of 45 deaths, have been committed in North America by men who have either self-identified as incels or who had mentioned incel-related names and writings in their private writings or Internet postings.” r/incel sub was banned from reddit because …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:08 AM
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No just Elliot Rodgers, don’t forget alek minassian, Scott Paul Beierle...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:50 AM
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Men are still more likely to kill their spouses then the other way around: “A recent study examining gender differences and homicide (Fridel, et al.) identified a rise in domestic violence murders since 2014, after 40 years of a steady reduction. In the US, three women used to be killed by an intimate partner each day. The figure is now up—closer to four women a day. At the same time, the number of men who are murdered by an intimate partner has declined.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psycho…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:57 AM
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It’s obviously looking at western countries, which we should care about since we are more likely to be affected by it. And to be frank a lot of radical Islamic ideology has always struck me as a bit incelish.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:13 AM
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Absolute dumb comparison. The reason why incels are more reviled and stigmatized is because many of the people who subscribe to that ideology have gone on mass shootings and committed terrorist attacks. And before you say only a small percentage do, this is what research has found: “In a landmark paper published today in the Australian Journal of Political Science, Incels are determined to have killed at least 50 people and injured at least 58 more since 2014—statistics comparable to the number …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:44 PM
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Yeah it matters because anything that is a fringe leftwing opinion becomes mainstream in a couple years. How many people you think heard of transgender bathrooms rights a couple years ago? When Congress people are proposing resolutions to decriminalize sex work and presidential candidates are being asked about their stance on prostitution then you know the issue is becoming mainstream. https://www.google.com/amp/s/jezebel.com/ayanna-pressley-continues-criminal-justice-reform-work-1839878422/amp …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 06:24 AM
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You are wrong that both the left and right collectively agree on prostitution. This may be true of elected officials but that is changing: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.democratandchronicle.com/amp/1407958001 If you follow any leftist younger circles it is actually taboo to not be pro sex work. Most leftist publications from Jacobin to Vox etc support decriminalization. The attitudes in regards this are entirely a generational one. https://www.google.com/amp/s/newrepublic.com/amp/article/1554…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 06:02 AM
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It’s hyperbole but I have seen many redpill posters dream up these scenarios claiming it would solve a lot problems in our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 02:24 AM
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That’s a good point I haven’t thought of before.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 02:22 AM
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I thought the complaint was about having access to casual sexual partners not about having access to gfs or emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 11:42 PM
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I understand where you are coming from. I think the model that most sex workers advocate for is the New Zealand one which is decriminalization versus legalization. You are right that legalization in places like Germany and Netherlands has increased trafficking but I don’t think that is the case for New Zealand.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 11:07 PM
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Attractive couples are more likely to divorce though. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/seriouslyscience/2017/03/22/attractive-people-are-more-likely-to-get-divorced/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 10:38 PM
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You probably should move if that is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:02 AM
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Where do live? Because while I think both of them are pleasant looking both strike me as unremarkable in appearance, thus why I used as an example as your standard couple where both are of average looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 06:41 AM
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I gonna be honest find it hard to believe that living in a large city you never seen an unattractive couple together, but hey perhaps you have never been to a poor neighborhood or the people in your city above average in attractiveness on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 06:10 AM
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Oh well my experience is different because every time I go to Walmart I see ugly couples all the time pushing their strollers filled with kids to the brim. Ugly and average looking people greatly out number attractive ones, so it just seems logical that most couples you see fall in that category. I live in a large city and really don’t have high standards but seeing a handsome men is not really a common sight. Cute and above average looking yes, but men that are male model handsome? Absolutely n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 05:05 AM
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Take a stroll to your local Walmart my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 04:56 AM
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Shouldn’t couples where the men is more attractive be happier and more stable since it’s the only way a men can get loyal wife. That doesn’t appear to be the case. You haven’t explained why MEN with more attractive wives have higher relationship satisfaction. Perhaps men are in fact the more shallow gender? Given that women with less attractive partners seemed to be more focused on their partners behavior that made them happy not looks. Given that incels have quite literally committed murder and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 03:21 AM
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Btw according to studies it is men who overvalue their looks not women. This isn’t just one cherry picked study, several studies have found this. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/social-instincts/201507/when-men-arent-good-looking-they-think%3famp If women are these shallow horrible people why is age frame from when they find men to be attractive larger? Why is the women’s attractiveness in a relationship play a bigger role in relationship satisfaction versus men’s. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 02:43 AM
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I said happy and content for the guy not girl. Btw the point of makeup is exaggerate feminine characteristics the same way smooth hairless skin does. Given that both women who wear makeup and shaving are cheating, doesn’t it make since to ban them both by your logic? Can we also agree that men are the more shallow sex then as well? If being with a women slightly less attractive then you is an injustice and enraging matter for you doesn’t that reflect a highly shallow way of thinking? I mean if w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 02:07 AM
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To me it appears that you are overly critical of women’s looks versus men. Like most people above would see the couple on my post as fairly evenly matched in looks, the fact that you view the woman as the much uglier partner despite her being fitter then her partner tells me that you give way more leeway to men look wise versus women. You know a better way to look for partner is to simply find somebody you find attractive and connect with. If a 7/10 guy with 5/10 girl is happy and content with h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:56 AM
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Women have a lot more to loose in realm of sex and dating due to them being ones being able to get pregnant, which results in them being a bit pickier this evolutionary psychology 101. I frankly don’t notice a huge difference in attractiveness between the couples I see on day to day basis. But hey beauty and attractiveness are subjective, it appears me that you are a lot harsher and critical of women’s looks versus men’s which why you may be seeing more 7/10 males with 5/10 females versus the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:33 AM
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Most women on a day to day basis don’t wear that much makeup to dramatic change their appearance. Yes makeup makes women more attractive but a women stills needs good genes and some natural beauty to be beautiful it can’t all be an illusion. Which is why you still celebrities like Sarah Jessica Parker who despite having access to the best surgeons and cosmetics in the world is still regarded as unattractive. Not sure what you want to do about suppose injustice. Ban makeup? Better yet why not jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:13 AM
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How did women rig the system, do tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:03 AM
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Honestly it is quite odd that someone who professes to be an incel has such high standards. I thought incels claimed they are incels because no woman including the ugly ones would have them. Yet online incels are often some the harshest critics on women’s looks. I’ve seen them refer to perfectly normal looking women as these ugly pigs. Makes you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:01 AM
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So are you saying men should only have children with women significantly better looking then them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 12:58 AM
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What does AF/BB stand for?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 12:56 AM
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There you go, unattractive do have partners, unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 02:12 PM
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Or if she is emotionally attached to him. Women don’t only fall in love with good looking men, clearly you understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 02:09 PM
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How often who cheats?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 12:51 PM
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You are again going to ignore the fact that the average couple spends 3-5 years together before marrying. You are also I see going to ignore that factors outside red pill dogma like rising college debt, poor job market, housing market all contribute as to why people are marrying later.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 12:50 PM
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This actually makes and the only explanation as to why so many posters here seem to think Chad like dudes are everywhere. Ghettos and working class communities where men wear wife beaters apparently full of chads I’m told.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 05:06 PM
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Have about we not mass demonize anyone based on a few examples? Deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 03:58 PM
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comments on Twitter= all women, got it. I guess these lovely gentlemen represent all men. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/pigging-cruel-new-dating-trend-need-know/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/travel/travel-advice/travellers-stories/woman-heartbroken-after-holiday-lover-says-fling-was-pull-a-pig-joke/news-story/06c8c21d4709888eed5f1caded156312 https://medium.com/@xojai/nojulz-the-mass-silencing-of-black-women-in-america-a33776002a87
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 02:59 PM
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You are the one absurdly claiming that most abusers are Chads or attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 02:45 PM
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So, only women only stay with good looking abusive men? Man some of you are really delusional if thinks that is case because I can tell you it’s not. Source: My mother works in a domestic violence shelter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 02:41 PM
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Tell that all the men in Walmart walking around with their fifty bastard children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 02:38 PM
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So only attractive men beat the crap out of women? Do some you listen to yourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 01:19 PM
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Most women didn’t dial 911, they left to come to our shelter where my mother would try and work them to press charges. In many cases the women were absolutely unwilling to do so even though they knew they should for their safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 05:08 AM
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I am generally wondering how ugly you are that you are getting such a reaction from people? Frankly I live a large city and the only people that cause such reaction from are usually homeless people of both genders due to their smell rather then looks, which I always feel bad about because most of them are obviously mentally ill and people who are severely obese of both genders. Can’t say I’ve ever come across someone who didn’t fit either category that I had a hard time looking at.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 04:59 AM
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The average women does not treat unattractive men as “subhuman.” Also where did this idea that men never mock and belittle women because of their looks come from? I remember having male coworkers who would have inside joke about how ugly and witch faced one annoying female coworker of ours was. I remember high school the boys would come up all sorts of colorful names for overweight female classmates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 04:55 AM
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Working class people are typical less attractive due to having a higher obesity rate, less access to nutrients, less education, having a harder life etc. That is not to see say there aren’t to say there aren’t attractive working class people, but do honestly not think they aren’t less attractive on average?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 04:34 AM
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I saw the guy with my own eyes, he was frankly pretty ugly. Not attractive at all. Mind you I doubt the women he sleeping with were any better, but around here it seems sleeping around only counts if the women you sleep with are attractive as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 04:30 AM
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So what is the definition of a Chad then? Because around these parts is mostly used as a catch all phrase for an attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 01:15 AM
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Sure, often times they are still in love with their abuser as well,
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 01:14 AM
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Interesting, my mother also told about a case where a woman she was counseling husband finally went jail after giving her HIV due sleeping around with different women. Mind you this guy wasn’t attractive at all. What do you say caused him to lash out to the point to abusing his wife and cheating on her?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 01:12 AM
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The number of people who commit terrorism in the name of Islam is low in the West as well, does that mean we shouldn’t be concerned about it? Incels aren’t just a bunch a sad lonely men, they promote a warped ideology that has lead to people getting hurt. I don’t care if the majority aren’t just like that I don’t care if the majority of ISIS members aren’t like that either , they still promote a dangerous ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 12:51 AM
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There are more than that. And frankly any guy that frequents a site where people laugh at women’s misery and have members advocating to legalize rape is not a nice or stable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 12:01 AM
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You claim that unattractive men are less likely to mistreat women because they have less options. I’ve pointed out if that is true then how come working class communities have higher rates of infidelity, domestic violence etc, if a man’s look is the only correlation in how he treats women. Typically speaking people in working class are less attractive due to not taking care of themselves. So those communities should have the least amount of abusive, assholish cheating men, but statistics show th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 11:26 PM
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You know this how? So why are upperclass women more likely to press charges against a abusive ex then lower class? Is it solely do to looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 11:19 PM
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Sometimes these women would go back and drop charges. It was hard for some to leave because they were in love or depended on their husband/boyfriend for support. Many had mental illness, abandonment issues etc. My mother would tell me tons horror stories of women who got aids due to her husbands cheating all the time. So cheating and asshole behavior was very common. The stereotypical Chad in my opinion is an attractive man. Almost none of these men were attractive in fact they were quite disgus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 11:11 PM
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So most abusive men are Chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 11:08 PM
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If unattractive men are more likely to treasure their relationship, then theoretically shouldn’t they be less likely to abuse, and mistreat women? No evidence has been put forth that they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 10:48 PM
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Then can you explain why infidelity, domestic violence etc seem to a bigger problem in working class communities, where people in general are less attractive on average due to not having the resources to take care themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 10:14 PM
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This isn’t true though. My mother use to work in a domestic violence shelter and she would counsel tons of abused women. Let me tell you something, these guys are as far as way as looking like a stereotypical Chad as possible. In fact in my experience abusive men are almost always very unattractive mostly because domestic violence in general seems to be a bigger problem in working class communities as a whole, and people in working class communities take less care of themselves in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 10:12 PM
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How are unattractive men treated poorly by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 10:08 PM
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I see you are also going to ignore the fact that the average couple spends 3-5 years together before marrying as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 01:50 PM
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Hmmm so I guessing you are one of those guys who subscribe to the incel belief that attractive men are all abusive, financial irresponsible playboys who women want to get with just because of their look. While below average men by virtue of being below average in looks are automatically husband material who never abuse or screw women over, only chads do that. Plenty of attractive men are decent human beings who make great husbands plenty are not. Same with below average men. If a woman wants sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 01:35 AM
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Generally educated people marry later, those marriages typically tend have a lower divorce rate as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 12:36 AM
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Like? You honestly think most women marry men they find sexually undesirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 12:34 AM
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I know, it seems to me that a lot of red pillers are convinced that women are sociopaths. They generally seem to believe that average women who marries and settles down secretly hates their spouse oops I mean”beta bux,” and are able to put on elaborate show of being in love with them for years just get married. Some women may be low enough to do that, but it’s not even close to the majority women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:32 PM
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I guess you are also ignoring the statistic I posted that showed that most couples date for 3-5 years before marrying. A women in her mid twenties theoretically as long as she can take care herself should have a lot of decent prospect dating wise. Why would she choose to settle down at that age? Could it be that women generally actually fall in love with these men and it has nothing to do with fact they are desperate to snatch up some beta bux like red pillers assert?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:24 PM
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I am little confused by your answer because I am almost positive that most red pill theory I have read about the wall asserted that most women hit the wall at thirty. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JeESxEViuDU The median marriage age according to the US census for women is 27. https://www.thespruce.com/estimated-median-age-marriage-2303878 The average age is rising that could be do to couple of things unrelated to red pill theory such as rising student debt, poor job market, housing market etc. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:07 PM
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Yes the issue of trafficking in Germany has to do with immigration. However, legalizing prostitution does increase the demand. Just like in the USA companies favor immigration due to labor shortage, in first world countries where prostitution is legal, immigrant women enter legally or illegally to work in the sex trade in order to fill the labor demands. “Estimates by the Danish National Board of Social Services suggests that after prostitution was made legal in 1999, the number of individuals i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 05:55 AM
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Sex workers rights has literally just became mainstream, it would be unheard of two years ago for a presidential candidate to come out in support of decriminalization, yet two candidates have this year. It is not just fringe candidates. “Albany, N.Y. — Several New York lawmakers are planning a push to legalize prostitution in the state. State Sens. Jessica Ramos, Julia Salazar, Brad Hoylman and Assemblyman Richard Gottfried are working on the bill with Decrim NY, a coalition of 20 different grou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 05:44 AM
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One of the politicians supporting the bill has specifically said she does not support the Nordic model. NOW has received backlash for their support of the Nordic model. Social conservatives don’t really have much power in New York so I am not sure they will be looking to please them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 04:04 AM
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I don’t know I am in New York there really does seem to be a push decriminalize it, I don’t think you can say it’s just loud minority when you have politicians now opening saying they want to decriminalize it. Or have well established feminist organizations like NOW receive backlash for not supporting decriminalization. The fact that left has become more intersectional and because prostitutes are more likely to come from protected groups like trans, gay, women of color, immigrants, etc definitel…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:25 AM
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Sex workers rights movement is growing on the left, don’t think you can say for certain that it would never be legalized. It has only just become a mainstream issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:58 AM
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I understand, but I am trying to use red pill logic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:55 AM
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Here were the key points of the study: “1. Countries with legalized prostitution are associated with higher human trafficking inflows than countries where prostitution is prohibited. The scale effect of legalizing prostitution, i.e. expansion of the market, outweighs the substitution effect, where legal sex workers are favored over illegal workers. On average, countries with legalized prostitution report a greater incidence of human trafficking inflows.” “2. The effect of legal prostitution on h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:47 AM
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I agree with most your points here. Here is the study that shows a link between increased human trafficking and legalized prostitution: Does Legalized Prostitution Increase Human Trafficking? The number of men visiting prostitutes won’t increase dramatically overnight, but it would definitely increase over a shorter time span than a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 09:23 PM
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Most of the people pushing to decriminalize prostitution here in New York appear to be women of color although there are some white women as well. That’s why NOW was being dogged online as “white feminism” due to their opposition against decriminalizing sex work. Both the two female politicians pushing to decriminalize sex work are Hispanic. Ashley Judd for example received massive backlash online after she said prostitution was paid raped. She derided for being an example of a “white feminist.”…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:28 PM
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Ok several points... 1. Your interpretation of red pill as to why women engage in behavior that actively harm their sexual market place value, hinges on the idea are unaware that what they are doing hurts their sexual market place value. However, a post wall women by red pill logic should be aware that certain behaviors due hurt their sexual market place value. This is why redpillers claim women lie about their sexual past to their prospective future husbands or try to influence the behavior of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:18 PM
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Several pro sex worker groups like Derim NY have come out against the Nordic model, likewise so has Amnesty international after it was shown it increases violence against prostitutes. NOW received massive backlash from other feminist organizations for their anti prostitution rally and support for the Nordic model. Likewise the bill being written by the two female politicians in New York is not based on the Nordic model. One of them has specifically said they don’t support it. The people pushing …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:31 PM
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I recounted the NOW example because I interpreted your comment as saying that the motivation for feminist to decriminalize sex work in this is driven by their desire to rebuke traditional men or white knights. Likewise one tenant of red pill thinking is that women as they become older and hit the wall, their awareness of their sexual market place value increases due to them becoming invisible to men. So what motivations would a post wall women have in supporting decriminalize sex work? The argum…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:10 PM
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Individual prostitution is definitely criminalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:37 PM
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Actually in many feminist circles there was a huge backlash against NOW( National Organization for Women) for an anti prostitution rally they held, which was interrupted by several sex workers. Most people under twitter post about the rally were upset with them for pushing the Nordic model (which decriminalizes selling sex but criminalizes buying sex). Likewise in Queens, New York several massage parlors had been raided by the police for running a prostitution ring. There was outrage when it cam…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:21 PM
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Looking into a different GSS variable. There are inconsistencies where people say they had a sex partner in the past year but did not have sex in the past year.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 01:02 PM
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That’s not true, I think I’m clear that the error bars are for the 27% stat,
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 12:48 PM
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Uh what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 05:56 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 05:55 AM
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Yeah, since when does having as a teenager make you a “Chad”? Shows you how inconsistent the definition of Chad is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 05:54 AM
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Women’s rates have increased.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 05:03 AM
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If you take a look at Simon DeDeo’s graph it clearly shows that the level sexlessness among young men has remained consistent since the 90s with 2018 being outlier primarily due to being driven by selection effects. You can see this in actual data, DeDeo plotted 95% confidence bars which are actually underestimates because of weighting. Furthermore the GSS does not survey individuals that live in dorms, and considering the fact that the number of students attending college has increased 50% sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 04:19 AM
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Not really the rates are actually fairly similar to the 90s. In fact between 2008-2010 there was huge spike in the number of men reporting to have sex in last year. The data spike between 2014-2019 is driven by 59 men in total of look at Philip Cohen’s analysis carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 04:07 AM
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Exactly. I should also let me people know that the GSS doesn't survey individuals living in dorms and college attendance has increased ~50% since the mid 90s. Considering that fact isn't there increasing risk of bias in GSS measures of sex among youth?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 03:55 AM
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Yeah and the GSS really is not the greatest dataset. They've randomly changed up the survey design, switched to a rotating panel and back to a cross-section, and so on. So I am not really convinced that these rates measured between 2014-2018 are in fact consistent with those up to 2010.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 01:49 AM
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There is no matching to adjust for inconsistent age distribution across GSS years. [IMG]http://i64.tinypic.com/23svipt.jpg[/IMG]
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 01:03 AM
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The numbers are small, if I am doing this right; sqrt(31) would imply an error of ±4%.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 12:58 AM
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Ugh I should be more clear. The error bars I posted are about the claim that 27% of young men are virgins. The raw data is on the claim that 28% of men have not had sex in past year.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 12:48 AM
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If you look at the error bars, the number of men having sex has not changed that much since the 90s. There was in fact a huge drop off in 2008-2010. It appears 2018 based on the error bars is a huge outlier, more studies need to be done to see if the results replicate. For example I mentioned that in 2012 GSS found that only 2%(!) of young men reported not having a sexual partner in the past year. That was due to different wording of the question which is why data points for 2012 are omitted in …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 12:04 AM
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The graph is not mine but Simon DeDeo’s who examined the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:32 PM
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The numbers are weighted raw data puts that statistic closer to 22%. Not having sex within the last year does translate into never having sex in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:31 PM
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Thanks just changed it. I was talking about the GSS survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:07 PM
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Have you looked at the top of post of this week? “US finally catches up to Japan: 27% of men under 30 are virgins”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:00 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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