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They were trained with social media data Not just any social media. ChatGPT was specifically trained on reddit. AI is trained on social media that censors anybody who supports gender equality. It is programmed to be misandrist, which is why LLMs discriminate against males in hiring
/r/MensRights25/07/26 11:31 PM
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LLMs are being used in hiring now and research shows that they all discriminate against men Despite identical professional qualifications across genders, all LLMs consistently favored female-named candidates when selecting the most qualified candidate for the job. Female candidates were selected in 56.9% of cases, compared to 43.1% for male candidates
/r/MensRights25/07/26 11:29 PM
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You're right. The fact that women never wanted to switch places is proof enough that they weren't oppressed. Ask any feminist today if she really wants to switch with a male worker 200 years ago. Or if she wants to serve in the wars women were protected from. They deflect by saying it was "patriarchy backfiring" but that doesn't change the fact that even feminists know that women weren't actually oppressed.
/r/MensRights25/07/26 11:26 PM
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And MRAs have never been about equality, they don't care about men's issues, they just want to shit on women and feminists. now if you're just going to lie like this then why should anybody engage with you? You want an example of the lies that aren't working? This. It's objectively false and what's worse is that you know it's false. But you said the lie anyway hoping you'd get away with it. MRAs have never wanted to shit on "women" and MRAs were originally feminists, and only became anti-feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:22 AM
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Have you ever tried checking your female privilege? Or do you just prefer to complain about the minor annoyance of your female privilege backfiring? Because you wouldn't have to deal with that if you accepted gender equality and rejected traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 03:00 AM
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you don't ask men out on dates because you think a real man should ask you out. You don't approach men because you think a real man should approach you instead. You would never date a man less assertive than you are because he's not a real man. but then you will also turn around and complain about traditional gender roles and demand equality. And you're too brainwashed to even understand the contradiction. Either you want equality or you don't. You obviously don't so you could at least admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:57 AM
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what happened to A movement is judged by what it consistently promotes, attracts, and becomes—not just by the description its members prefer Now you only want to judge feminism by the description its members prefer? You don't think feminism should be judged by what it consistently promotes, attracts, and becomes? Just the dictionary definition that it hides behind? The feminist movement consistently promotes misandry, attracts misandrists, and became an anti-equality misandrist movement 60 years…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:13 AM
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red pillers/MRA those two are not the same and shouldn't be put together. And MRAs still just want their voice to be heard and to change laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:36 AM
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A movement is judged by what it consistently promotes, attracts, and becomes—not just by the description its members prefer I agree. Now do you want to apply that same logic to feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:20 AM
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Technically Harris said she believed Biden's accusers. Of course that might actually be worse than if she didn't say anything lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:47 PM
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Most people already accept basic ideas like equal rights the lack of support for MRAs and especially the hostility from BP feminists says otherwise. In fact, your opposition to equal rights is what drove so many men to give up on equality and turn to RPers instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:44 PM
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At the very least, therapy's effectiveness is exaggerated especially by feminists. Whenever men's mental health and suicide comes up, feminists say that men should just go to therapy and that the patriarchy and toxic masculinity prevent men from going to therapy. But most men who commit suicide did seek help. There's a limit to what talking can do. The OP is below arguing that therapy is "real" medicine but looksmaxxing isn't. If a fat guy is depressed because no woman will get with him, then ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:39 PM
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the rest are not really political issues dating is literally the biggest issue of RP/BP. Not everything is "political" but if you're specifically talking about RP/BP then you're talking about dating and relationships. How could you spend so much time typing up the OP and replying ITT when you know literally nothing about any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:31 PM
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There are no blue pill influencers for men because the lies don't work LMAO it's funny that this title is actually completely accurate, you're just too blue pilled to see what lies aren't working. Conservatism thrives on fear, uncertainty, doubt, and anger Good thing nobody on the left is saying that Trump is Hitler or that Republicans are Nazis. Are you too young to remember before the modern Red Pill shit when a lot of young men were just MRAs who wanted equality? When men simply said that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:28 PM
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remember when feminists complained that office air conditioning was sexist. You just can't win.
/r/MensRights09/07/26 05:10 PM
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A lot of MRAs, especially female MRAs, are ex-feminists. They are raised to believe that men are privileged and don't have any issues, but once they actually accept reality, a lot of women are empathetic. The tricky part is getting them to accept reality. It's not any different with men, like you noticed even men have a hard time accepting reality. But most people regardless of gender leave feminism once they actually accept reality.
/r/MensRights22/06/26 03:04 AM
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I obviously understand what feminism is a lot more than you do. Let me guess, you think feminism is about equality? Because you've never actually done any research.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:25 AM
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It wasn't over in the 90s. In fact you can see this video from Warren Farrell on Oprah in the 90s and watch how women in the audience react The argument is mostly over now but only ended 10 years ago (in the US) and that was because of anti-feminist men finally standing up to the hypocritical feminists for demanding equality while still wanting men to pay. And it's still not entirely over, there are still many women including feminists who still want men to pay for the first date. Feminists stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:41 PM
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I don't understand why men refute women saying "my female privilege is derived from other female privilege" by pointing out that women are sexist hypocrites Men didn't say that in the 50s. They started saying it when feminists started lying about gender roles and equality. Men are pointing out hypocrisy and feminists have no argument against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:36 PM
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and then somehow those exact same women (including a lot of Blue Pill women on this sub) claim that it's actually "the patriarchy" that "forces" women to be passive. They tell you women don't want traditional gender roles when they only date men who take initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:34 PM
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Feminism is an anti-equality movement which protects sexist double standards that benefit women. The reaction of feminists and women in general against MRAs is all the proof anybody needs that women don't want equality. Men generally embraced women's rights while women generally opposed men's rights. The fact that the number of men who wanted equality is so much higher than the number of women is all the proof anybody needs that traditional sexism benefits women more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:18 PM
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what? No, men are more likely to want to get rid of all traditional gender roles and double standards. As opposed to women who almost all are either feminists or tradcons. There are very very few female egalitarians.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:56 PM
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women do choose that though. Because it's easier than being the breadwinner. Those women could have just worked and supported a stay-at-home father, but women know the female gender role is the easier privileged role which is why they choose that role and make the father work instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:51 AM
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Your wage gap source did not control for hours or anything else. The CONSAD wage gap report concluded that "there may be nothing to correct. The differences in raw wages may be almost entirely the result of the individual choices being made by both male and female workers." If this is your first time seeing this then you really need to do more than cursory research. There's a reason even feminists abandoned their wage gap arguments. Pink tax substantially similar lol do I even need to say it? 11…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:45 AM
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Accurate information is that those micro aggressive situations are extremely common and 100% of women have been through several of them. So you feel a little uncomfortable and in exchange you're guaranteed a loving husband with almost no effort. I'm sure most men would put up with a couple weird dates if the exchange is that he gets a loving wife and doesn't even have to put any effort into getting one. you have to ask why men work more hours than women? female privilege. Women could work 80 hou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:25 AM
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You're right, and women believe that being a wageslave is worse which is why most would rather marry a man who earns more than she does, instead of supporting a stay-at-home father. It's also why you want men to pay alimony and child support after divorce while wanting women to get custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:16 AM
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Those tradeoffs demand more from women than men what are you basing that on? The fact that men are significantly more likely to support gender equality and want to get rid of traditional gender roles seems to contradict your assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:15 AM
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Paternity fraud is legal and several countries have banned paternity tests. Which women's issue is comparable to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:13 AM
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EDIT: Feminists constantly downvoting objective facts just proves that feminism is against reality. 1 in 4 women and 1 in 33 men across the USA have been victims of rape or attempted rape FYI, feminists are in charge of these studies, and since feminists believe that women can't rape men, the male rape victims are severely underestimated. Your specific statistics come from the NCVS, and the feminists in charge of that study only count rapes if the victim is penetrated. Since a woman raping a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:09 AM
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that's the really ironic part, feminists say shit like that yet they still choose to date dangerous men instead of nice guys
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:04 AM
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There are very loud self-proclaimed internet feminists who'd say they don't give a fuck about these men except it's not just the "very loud self-proclaimed internet feminists." It's all of the feminist organizations and feminist politicians and institutions like the United Nations. Very, very few feminists support protecting vulnerable men and very, very few feminists support MRAs in general. Your movement is anti-male, regardless of what the dictionary told you. Most of those young feminists yo…
/r/MensRights16/06/26 03:15 PM
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Have you tried telling feminists that? Because if feminists actually believed that then they wouldn't be fighting against MRAs so hard.
/r/MensRights16/06/26 03:13 PM
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Obviously you understand that when most men fail with women it's because he is treating women like equals which most women hate. So you are saying it is wrong for a man to feel "entitled" to being treated like an equal and not having to live up to traditional gender roles. Thanks for being another example of a feminist who says that opposing traditional gender roles is anti-feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:55 AM
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The average dude could get all of those things if he settled for a 400 pound selfish piece of shit who abuses him and you think this is the same as telling women to stop rejecting men for being nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:53 AM
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On my old account I got banned from MensLib early when that subreddit was first created. I replied to a mod who was claiming that feminism has always supported equality for men and that MRAs just hate women. Just blatant lying and then banning people for correcting the lies. The subreddit is modeled after Michael Kimmel and NOMAS which for those who don't know are very toxic feminists who openly say that men's issues aren't real, men can't be victims of domestic violence, etc. Reminder that the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 09:20 PM
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Pizzacake is one of those people who has the right idea no she's not. She has a comic where she rapes a male critic. And another where she dismisses men's issues. She's a misandrist who panders to insecure redditors.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 09:11 PM
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Reminder to fellow MRAs: Please don't just downvote comments like these, one of the goals of this subreddit is to educate people about MRAs and misandry. Downvoting somebody who is simply asking questions doesn't help anybody. To the user above: You don't even know what the "manosphere" is because it doesn't really exist. MRAs hate Red Pillers and Red Pillers hate us. Misandrists lump us together because they don't have valid reasons to oppose MRAs. rising among men around my age the misogyny yo…
/r/MensRights11/06/26 07:46 PM
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whether they have been molested by a man this. A lot of feminists use this as an excuse to be misandrists. Being raped by a Black man is not an excuse to hate all Black people so why would it justify hating all men?
/r/MensRights11/06/26 07:28 PM
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Internalized misandry is a real problem. They are conditioned to believe that they should ignore their own problems and put women first, and are taught that putting other men down for being "weak" will make him a real man who women will respect. It's most common in young men, a lot of men grow out of this white knighting shit.
/r/MensRights10/06/26 11:35 PM
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I understand where you're coming from, but half of /r/mensrights is made up of ex-feminists. Eventually a lot of feminists get it. Cassie Jaye made a whole documentary about leaving feminism because of talking to MRAs. So even when it comes to feminists, don't give up on them.
/r/MensRights10/06/26 11:33 PM
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To me, it represents an admission by Democrats that misandry is a losing tactic. I don't believe Whitmer believes what she's saying or that she cares about men, but the mere fact that she felt the need to say that means she recognizes that misandry is becoming less popular.
/r/MensRights10/06/26 09:52 PM
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yeah, this is a good quote if I thought she actually believed it. But it just sounds like a Democrat who is trying to run for President in 2 years and realizes how much her party's misandry has cost them male voters. Did she give a shit about men 5 years ago? Or did she just start pretending to care when she became a potential candidate for President? Let me know if she denounces feminism and actually criticizes her party's misandry, then I'll consider supporting her. Until then, this isn't the …
/r/MensRights10/06/26 09:48 PM
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This. Moderate conservatives who have some progressive views (like gay rights like you mentioned) are the most egalitarian women I've ever met. Most leftist women, even moderate leftists, are feminists to some degree so obviously they don't support equality. And more rightwing Republican religious conservatives are tradcons. There are a few leftwing women who are anti-feminist (Shoe0nHead is an example), but mostly stick to rightwing women who are socially progressive on other issues like gay ri…
/r/MensRights10/06/26 09:45 PM
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don't forget that, at least in the US, the "official statistics" for rape intentionally exclude female on male rape. Feminists are in charge of the NISVS and NCVS (the two official federal rape surveys) and both studies exclude women forcing men to have sex because feminists think it's only rape if the victim is penetrated. If you include all forced sex, women are 40% of rapists
/r/MensRights10/06/26 08:36 PM
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at least she got something. Britain is the only country that actually prosecutes and convicts women like this, in the US and most other countries they wouldn't even bring charges against her. Sad that the country that is harshest on false rape accusations still gives us these results though, and feminists will still tell us this is too harsh.
/r/MensRights10/06/26 08:33 PM
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AI is literally trained on the status quo. ChatGPT was trained on reddit. People who quote ChatGPT are just quoting reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:19 AM
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Are you really trying to argue that the United Nations and Obama and NOW are just fringe feminists? How many feminists have you met who oppose them? How many feminists have you met who support MRAs? How many feminists have you met who support IMD? I’ve argued with plenty of anti-feminists who think women shouldn’t vote. We aren't talking about all anti-feminists we're talking about MRAs. How many MRAs have you met who think that? And most of those anti-feminists only started saying that because …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:44 AM
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NOW lobbying against equality for fathers. Obama refusing to create a White House Council for Men and Boys. The United Nations' HeForShe. Feminists protesting Erin Pizzey. The Duluth Model. Feminist opposition to MRAs. That's just the start. I'm guessing you're probably young, because this was much more obvious 10 years ago when feminists were more honest about how much they hated men. Now do you have any examples of feminists actually supporting equality for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:56 AM
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At some point you’re going to need something stronger than “trust me, most feminists are like this.” I gave examples of the United Nations, Obama, the feminists who oppose IMD, and the feminists who oppose MRAs. That's a lot of feminists. We can add NOW since you think "more involved in fatherhood" is supporting feminism when the largest feminist organization fought against it. Where are your examples of feminists who support equality? At some point you're going to need something stronger than "…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:51 AM
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I gave facts and examples. You didn't. You're just illustrating the point that people who continue to defend feminism have no idea what they're talking about. Where are the feminists who opposed HeForShe? Where are the feminists who demanded a White House Council on Men and Boys? Where are the feminists who supported MRAs? You say most feminists did all of those so where are the examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:31 PM
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It doesn't. But it does mean OP is apparently incapable of engaging with the content. People who just paste from AI are NPCs and aren't worth discussing anything with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:07 PM
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ChatGPT is great at translating. Or just Google Translate. what's wrong you're an NPC
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:06 PM
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They do a lot of virtue signaling about wanting a man who is emotionally open, then when he is? Ewwww. I wonder how many of those women are even aware. I think a lot of those women honestly believe that they want an emotional vulnerable man, but then when it happens she can't help but be turned off. But the problem starts WELL before that. It starts when the man has to initiate first approach and absolutely has to present confidence, which in turn signals emotional stability, resilience, and inn…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:05 PM
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or maybe we paid attention to the history of feminism specifically fighting against equality for men and maybe we have had countless interactions with feminists about men's issues, virtually all of which were negative. If you're going to tell me that only "some" feminists are dismissive of men's issues then you clearly have no idea about feminism. The number of feminists who support men's rights is trivial. Feminists who actually support equality, like CHS or Karen DeCrow, were fringe feminists.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:26 PM
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some feminists the vast majority of feminists are dismissive of men's issues. It wasn't just "some" feminists who supported the UN's HeForShe, or Obama refusing to create a White House Council on Men and Boys, or mocked International Men's Day, or mocked the very concept of a men's rights movement. That's not "some" feminists it's the vast majority. More involved fatherhood until after divorce, when feminists fought for the man to be nothing but a provider who had almost no involvement with his …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:26 PM
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feminism and patriarchy aren't the only two options, a lot of men just equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:44 PM
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Feminists have been arguing for decades that it harms men too. Funny how those exact same feminists also argue that we should never ever try to do anything to change the ways that this "patriarchy" harms men, going so far as to call us misogynists when we even mention those problems. Funny how after decades of progress on women's rights, there has been very little on men's rights, and the few changes that have come about (such as more equal custody rights for fathers) happened despite feminists …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:23 PM
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I don't know about "better" leaders, but certainly more willing. Being a leader is tough. It's a lot of work and you take a lot of shit. Also women are the majority of voters, so in a democracy, women are the ones with the power regardless of what gender the politicians are.
/r/MensRights06/06/26 02:14 PM
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Feminists are against Russia. They all support Ukraine drafting men and forcing them to die though, because feminists aren't capable of seeing men as humans. Name ONE feminist who has called out Ukraine for human rights violations against males. Name ONE feminist who has acknowledged the severe systemic misandry happening in Ukraine.
/r/MensRights06/06/26 01:53 PM
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in a world ran by men which gender are the majority of voters in most countries? Which gender enforces gender roles? Which gender says that gender equality is misogynistic? Governments only care about white rich old men source? I live in the US where the government cares about women more than men. the war in Ukraine how does the feminist United Nations feel about the draft in Ukraine? What about female world leaders? Feminists in the US? Most women voted for Biden and he's a feminist, how did he…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:59 PM
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how common is that? Millions of men have been forced to war with hundreds of thousands of them dying. If women flee the country are they welcomed as refugees? Because the EU is currently considering excluding male Ukrainians from refugee status because the feminists at the EU think that men are disposable.
/r/MensRights05/06/26 11:34 PM
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can you prove that women are paid 77% of what men are for the same work? Or do you admit that you started by lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:40 PM
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Does the Afghanistan government kidnap women off the street and force them to die? Because that's what Ukraine does to men.
/r/MensRights05/06/26 07:42 PM
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you misread. I was comparing women in Afghanistan to men in Ukraine.
/r/MensRights05/06/26 03:25 PM
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If you want to go international then women in Afghanistan are still treated better than men in Ukraine.
/r/MensRights05/06/26 03:02 PM
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I don't know about the UK, but in the US, more money is invested in women's health. People also donate more to women's health than men's and politicians care more about women's health. You wanna talk about sexism in the justice system yes, if you had any idea what you were talking about you'd know that this is a perfect example of systemic misandry. the male perpetrators go free and female perpetrators never do? You're delusional. The judge let them go free as he didn’t want their lives to be ru…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:04 PM
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Okay. Those issues where misandry kills men doesn't address that misandry doesn't kill LMAO! Your casual dismissal of deadly misandry is an example of you being a misandrist btw. that's the men voting for it Idk about Ukraine but every other country I can think of women are the majority of voters. And most women in the West, especially feminists, support Ukraine. And the men who care about this are usually called misogynists by women like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:12 AM
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It tracks that you started your argument with an obvious lie and can't defend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:09 AM
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Crack open a history book lmao, so you're going to pretend that the draft was never a thing? Your history book never told you about that? You don't even need a history book, it's happening now in Ukraine. Go ask feminists how they feel about that. Or how men were expected to work dangerous jobs, sacrificing their health and lives for women? Or violence against men always being more acceptable than violence against women? Men being viewed as disposable? Women's emotional well-being valued over me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:08 AM
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You used statistics on intersexual crime to justify your point. I asked you to apply that same logic to interracial crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:05 AM
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You're getting your information from a few men on an obscure subreddit. Whereas we're referencing the actual mainstream views of feminists. Or are you going to try convincing me that most supporters of Egalitarians/MRAs are women? Do you even support equality? I'll at least give you credit if you can tell me you personally support MRAs in fighting for equality for both men and women. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:02 AM
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nobody says that go ask women about MRAs but that's because MRAs are misogynists!!! yes, that's my point. A movement of men who objectively just want equality are called misogynists by most women (including, presumably, you) statistically more men are conservative than women are conservatives the only people who oppose equality? Tradcons oppose equality but so do feminists. Egalitarians/MRAs support equality, and guess which gender overwhelmingly supports them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:45 AM
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Have you told that to the men in Ukraine? Did you miss the BLM movement, and did you ever ask yourself whether White men or Black women are more likely to be killed by police? Did you ever look at suicide rates, and especially suicide rates after divorce? Have you looked at life span vs health funding? Or life span vs how WEF gender equality reports value life spans? Your "why" is because you don't care enough about men to do even basic research on this. Misandrists told you "misandry sucks, mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:39 AM
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The United Nations is not "a crazy woman online." Neither is almost every leftwing party in the Western world. Or the people who run the very website you're using. Or the academics at most universities. You really don't have any idea what you're talking about, do you? Men still dominate positions in power Not men as a whole, just individual men, who overwhelmingly cater to women. Feminism is far more common among powerful leaders than misogyny is. Name the powerful leaders and institutions who o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:32 AM
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Men have who cares who did the action? A man killing a man due to internalized misandry is still misandry. The men dying in Ukraine are a clear example of misandry. And men have internalized misandry in part because women want men to have internalized misandry (just look at how much most women hate any man who supports gender equality)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:30 AM
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Are you an "intersectional" feminist? Do the racial analysis on that and tell me which race is oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:28 AM
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Why are you talking about individual actions? Why not talk about systemic examples, like sexism in the justice system, sexism in health research (women getting more funding even though they already live longer), etc. Look at how Ukraine's government treats men vs women. but men do that to men! internalized misandry is real and it's usually caused by men trying to pander to women, who want men to have internalized misandry. And feminists especially support these double standards, for example here…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:26 AM
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It’s still sexism traditionalist sexism wasn't misogyny, because it was sexist to both women and men. Women and men both had gender roles and neither was really privileged. Compare that to modern feminism which still wants the older ways of thinking for sexism against men, but not for women. That's misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:17 AM
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Black people have historically raped and murdered White people more than the other way around. Does this mean you believe racism against White people has always been the bigger problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:15 AM
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No, the older ways of thinking are also misandry. The difference is that blue pill feminists successfully got rid of most actual misogyny while you also fought to protect misandry because it benefited you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:15 AM
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You might as well say that Black-on-White violence being more common is proof that racism against White people is more prevalent. Now ask how many men want a "Violence Against Men Act" and how many women want a "Violence Against Women Act." You point to a handful of extremist men, but the vast majority of men view those men as wrong. Whereas most women support misandrist DV policies. Men think it's wrong for men to rape women, most women support misandrist rape studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:13 AM
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wage gap LMAO I'm not even going to bother reading the rest of your rant if you're going to bring this myth up. Women getting equal pay for equal work is not misogyny, it's equality. Why do feminists believe women should get equal pay for less work?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:11 AM
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meanwhile the women say that any man who supports gender equality and wants to get rid of gender roles is a misogynist. The simple fact that men are so much more likely to support gender equality than women is proof enough that misandry is the bigger problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:09 AM
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your female privilege is showing. You clearly haven't talked to many male victims of DV if you don't know how often victims get arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:17 AM
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Yes, definitely. I should have clarified better, but the MRA stance is "domestic violence should be taken seriously regardless of the genders of the perpetrator and victim." Which is also an anti-feminist stance (just look at Erin Pizzey)
/r/MensRights02/06/26 11:44 PM
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Hilarious that these are just objective facts • ‘Many allegations of sexual assault made by women are false’ This is an objective fact. • ‘Sometimes a woman can make a man so angry that he hits her when he doesn’t mean to’ Why the gendered language? I'm betting more women would agree with "Sometimes a man can make a woman so upset that she hits him when she doesn't mean to." I've seen plenty of feminists defend this by saying that women who hit men aren't doing it to be abusive but because she's…
/r/MensRights02/06/26 03:16 PM
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Could you just take 1 or 2 days off every single week by saying it's a mental health day? That's a lot of days off and that's what Americans would do with it.
/r/MensRights02/06/26 12:49 AM
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tradcon women do push gender roles too, but I've noticed that whenever men oppose gender roles or support gender equality, feminist women are always the ones fighting against it the most.
/r/MensRights01/06/26 10:42 PM
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how does that work? Do they include mental health days? In the US employees regularly just take their sick days whenever they feel like, it's basically treated the same as vacation days. What's preventing people in France or Germany from just using all of their sick days as time off?
/r/MensRights01/06/26 10:41 PM
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Disgusting. Literally the most vulnerable people on the planet, and the EU doesn't give a shit. Feminists will blame the patriarchy for this shit but which feminists have ever supported Ukrainian men here? The UN is feminist and they only give a shit about Ukrainian women.
/r/MensRights01/06/26 10:33 PM
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I'm a feminist so I don't understand statistics and math lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:14 AM
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and it grows with age as women abuse their female privilege to work soft jobs while men are pressured to work jobs that they hate. Feminists blame the patriarchy while also defending women who do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:46 AM
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Have you forgotten that women also have jobs that they're often not passionate about? A lot less common than men. Did you actually believe feminists when they told you the wage gap is caused by misogyny? On average men choose jobs they hate to make more money, women choose jobs they like even though they pay less.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:39 PM
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"men bad" is a summarization of you misandrist ranting. I can't defend my misandrist hatred so I will cry to the mods because you pointed out that I just went on a misandrist rant about how I hate all men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:38 PM
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you didn't make an argument you just angrily ranted about how bad men are. Presumably because you are bitter and angry after a lifetime of choosing the bad boys while rejecting all of the good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:30 PM
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who cares that the side effects for men were much more severe? They should just man up and quit being pussies! -Feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 01:18 PM
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you sound like a woman who has picked a lot of shitty men and is now trying to avoid responsibility for your shitty choices. Is that why you're so bitter and angry?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:39 AM
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They weren't the same rate though, severe side effects were significantly more common than with the female pill. Also one guy committed suicide and another attempted. But tell me more about how feminists want men to man up and the guy who killed himself just wasn't a real man I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:34 AM
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Everybody advocating for LPS also supports abortion rights, so jurisdictions like Texas aren't relevant. That's the difference, people who support LPS are pro-choice for both men and women, while feminists think that only women deserve a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:29 AM
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The fact that women are not legally required to tell the father that he is the father is not biology, it is systemic female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:25 AM
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How does she have any more emotional burden in an adoption than the man? They are both legally surrendering their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:24 AM
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The mother doesn't even have to tell the biological father that he has a child in the first place. He might not know he has any parental rights because he might not even know that he is the biological father. There's also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe-haven_law
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:23 AM
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Unless the woman doesn’t know who the father is. if she knows who the father is she doesn't legally have to tell him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:46 AM
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Which doesn't matter because even if she does know she has no legal obligation to tell him because of female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:39 AM
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LPS doesn't dump the kid onto the mother unless she wants it. If she doesn't want it she would either get an abortion or give it up for adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:38 AM
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You said: Men can choose not to have children. They can choose not to have sex Did you not know that male rape victims can have children? Did you not know that male rape victims are forced to have sex (although feminist rape statistics do not call it "rape"). Did you know that male rape victims have to pay child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:09 AM
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what if a single mother gives the child up for adoption and never even told the biological father that he has a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:06 AM
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No, cuz she is forfeited all of her legal parental rights and has no access to the child whatsoever. how is that different from LPS? A man not having the child up for adoption with a woman he had sex with is still legally required to support her. do you even know what this thread is about?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:05 AM
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A woman doesn't even have a legal obligation to tell the biological father he even has a kid, yet more of the female privilege that the feminsits ITT ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:44 PM
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So adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:44 PM
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Paying 18 years of child support is a lot more expensive than paying for half of an abortion (with the father obviously paying the other half which is how LPS would work)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:43 PM
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you can't control where your egg goes what? How many women get pregnant without sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:42 PM
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Under LPS, the man would also have to pay half the abortion cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:42 PM
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Male rape victims can choose not to be raped a lot of compassionate feminists ITT. I need to save this the next time feminists blame "the patriarchy" for male rape victims not being taken seriously. Or did you not know that male rape victims also have to pay child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:41 PM
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Women who have children are also legally held responsible for the child's expenses and if she chooses not to pay, sje is arrested for neglect. Wrong. She could give it up for adoption with no responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:40 PM
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Not everyone who legally can have a biological abortion wants to get one. and not everyone who could legally have legal parental surrender would do it. The equal of a man getting a financial abortion is a woman getting a financial abortion and dumping all financial and caregiving responsibilities you mean like adoption and safe haven laws? Which women already can do without having to pay child support? LPS is just giving men these same options. Or do you think women who give the child up for ado…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:39 PM
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while only one part pays the VAST majority of the price The main reason for the wage gap is men working longer hours at shittier jobs so the mother doesn't have to. when a couple decides what happens when only the man but not the woman wants a child? What happens when only the woman but not the man wants a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:38 PM
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it is a matter of responsibility for a child who already exists. If a single mother gives the child up for adoption, should she have to pay child support to the adoptive parents? Because that's what you're arguing men should have to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:20 PM
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Right let’s punish the innocent child caught in the cross fire I assume you are pro-life since that is the exact line they use. Nobody supporting LPS is against abortion, so your comment is irrelevant because LPS would only be in jurisdictions where abortion is also legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:19 PM
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if a man gets raped it's his fault let me guess, you're another one of those feminists who tells us that feminists care about male rape victims?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:18 PM
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paper abortion FYI the proper term is Legal Parental Surrender. While reproduction is not naturally fair, the current system at least keeps some balance between men and women It literally doesn't though. The current system gives women all of the power and choice and none to men. Women can literally rape an unconscious man and force him to pay child support. Women can get pregnant and give the child up for adoption without even telling the father he has a child. Biologically, it's easy for a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:14 PM
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It is according to every feminist organization and academic feminist and all the other feminists who fought against MRAs. If you don't think feminism is about hating men then maybe you should have spoken up when feminists fought against MRAs. Red pillers only became popular because feminists fought against MRAs and convinced men that they couldn't have equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:55 PM
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No it's most. Most women including most feminist women still won't date a man who's less assertive than her. Feminist women still want the man to take the initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:45 PM
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Look up the death toll in Ukraine. Look up male suicide stats (divorced men are 10x more likely to commit suicide than divorced women btw). Look up males killed in the workplace. Misandry is obviously more deadly than misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:27 PM
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I have rejected men for not initiating enough because I was the one doing all the initiating have you ever even talked to a man about dating? Literally every relationship I've ever had was me taking the initiative early on. That's what all men have to do. You won't date men who treat you the way almost all women treat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:17 PM
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feminists spend decades openly hating men and fighting against all men (and women) who support gender equality Why do you interpret feminism as being against equality? Men view "I hate men" as a personal insult because you are insulting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:09 PM
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RP did not become popular until after decades of feminists opposing equality for men. If you didn't fight against gender equality then you wouldn't have to deal with RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:53 PM
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Do you have videos from Saudi Arabia kidnapping women off the street and forcing them to die for men? Because I've seen videos of that happening to Ukrainian men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:51 PM
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Do you have videos from Saudi Arabia kidnapping women off the street and forcing them to die for men? Because I've seen videos of that happening to Ukrainian men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:51 PM
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Do you have videos from Afghanistan kidnapping women off the street and forcing them to die for men? Because I've seen videos of that happening to Ukrainian men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:50 PM
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red pill sexism is a response to women's sexism. The "manosphere" used to be dominated by MRAs who just wanted equality. Women especially feminists fought against equality, which is why MRAs are a lot less influential now and have been replaced by RPers. If feminists didn't fight against MRAs then you wouldn't have RP sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:29 PM
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Do you ask men out on dates or do you expect them to ask you out? Do you take the initiative early on or do you expect him to? Have you ever lost interest in a man because he waited too long to make a move? Have you ever rejected a man because he was less assertive than you? Idk about you but the vast majority of feminist women are still enforcing those gender roles. And as for paying your own way, that's great but even that is recent. 20 years ago most feminist women still expected men to pay a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:24 PM
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Most feminist women still expect men to be assertive and take initiative and not be vulnerable. Until recently most of them expected men to pay for dates too. What makes them worse is the hypocrisy and dishonesty. All of those feminist women claim to be against gender roles when they enforce gender roles that benefit women. Conservative women are at least honest, and support traditional gender roles for women too to balance it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:18 PM
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Feminism's opposition to MRAs is exactly what caused the modern RP wave. You used to have a lot of young men who supported gender equality and feminists (not a "tiny fraction" but almost all feminists) hated them and fought against them. Based on your flair I'm assuming you were probably one of them. Congratulations, you successfully defeated MRAs who supported gender equality and now young men follow guys like Tate instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:07 PM
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You've never heard "the bar is in Hell and men still can't reach it" or "trying to find a good man is like trying to find clean water in a swamp" or "if lonely men weren't such misogynistic assholes then they would easily find a girlfriend"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:05 PM
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Good point, we know that all women are against the Ukrainian draft. I've never seen a woman supporting Ukraine and all of the female world leaders have condemned Ukraine's treatment of men. Even if that were true... so what? Internalized misandry is still misandry, and pressure from women is a big reason why so many men have internalized misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:57 PM
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They do but they close the locker room. And male janitors will clean the women's locker room and also close the locker room. Idk at least at my gym this isn't an issue and it happens both ways. If a woman was in there when I was in there though it would definitely bother me, I think that's one of those things women assume doesn't bother men but it does.
/r/MensRights29/05/26 08:54 PM
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lol, above you talk about using statistics. Statistically speaking, which race is more likely to commit violence against the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:31 PM
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It was balanced. Historically there were sexist double standards against both men and women, with each sex having their own privileges. Once women got the right to vote they began removing the double standards against women while fighting to maintain the double standards against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:29 PM
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The men in Ukraine chose to be in that situation The men in Ukraine should just stop paying attention
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:57 AM
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Come back when women's internalized misogyny is so bad that they kill other women and even themselves to the degree men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:56 AM
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Although male POC tend to be a specific target, when it comes to the legal system, which comes with a certain prejudice of both sexism and racism. Mostly sexism more than racism though. White men are treated worse in the legal system than Black women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:55 AM
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It is like trying to equate racism against black people to racism against white people. the biggest racial issue that's been discussed in recent years is BLM and discrimination against Black people in the justice system. Did you know that sexism against men in the justice system is so bad that White men are actually treated worse than Black women? Did you know that White men are more likely to be killed by police than Black women? Why is racism against Black people in the justice system consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:53 AM
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it's consequences are pretty much harmless Tell that to the men in Ukraine. Tell that to the men killed by police. Tell that to the men dying in the workplace. Tell that to the men committing suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:50 AM
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some faster than others weird how it's the women's issues that are getting undone a lot faster than the men's issues. And the little progress that has been made on men's issues (such as equal custody rights) was actually opposed by the same feminists who claim to be dismantling the patriarchy. It's almost like you can't just keep telling men "just dismantle the patriarchy and your problems will go away too"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:47 AM
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Internalized misandry is definitely a real problem, but even that often comes from women's expectations on men. Men feel pressure to be internally misandrist because if they advocate for equality then they face huge backlash from women. There is nothing less attractive to a woman than a man who advocates for true equality, and we can see on this very board many women saying that any man who does not have internalized misandry is a misogynist. And ITT you can see feminists dismissing misandry bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:42 AM
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Who are the majority of voters? Who upholds the idea that men can’t be abused and sexually assaulted and they should just man up and stop complaining? feminists. Feminists are the ones claiming that DV is just "violence against women." Feminists created the Duluth Model. Feminists are in charge of the rape studies like NCVS and NISVS which exclude men raped by women (because feminists don't consider that real rape). Feminists are the ones who spread these misandrist statistics. Feminists are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:33 AM
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he said in the world. Have you looked at how men are being treated by the Ukrainian government? There is no country on Earth that treats women as poorly as Ukraine treats men. And how does the rest of the world react? The feminist United Nations is so misandrist that the only thing they have to say about Ukraine is that the war is reversing progress for women and girls. Feminists at the UN hate men so much that men's lives have no value at all to them. And while you obsess over abortion restrict…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:26 AM
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I recently had this conversation on another sub: Feminist: There's no such thing as sexism against men. Men don't face any disadvantages due to their gender What about in the justice system? Black men are mistreated because of their race, not their gender That's not true, in fact sexism is a greater factor and White men are statistically treated worse than Black women LMAO that's not true! Yes it is, here are the statistics and sources Feminism is the solution (to this problem that feminists lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:24 AM
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Because white people are inherently racist just like men are inherently misogynistic. mask off lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:19 AM
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That's why i've been told that i'm incapable of thinking Studies show that the majority of women would never even consider dating a bi man. Feminists try to blame the patriarchy but it's women themselves who are disgusted by men who aren't "real men" in their eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:34 PM
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Warren Farrell is still alive you know. NCFM is still the largest men's rights organization and its philosophy hasn't changed. You hate MRAs because you oppose equality, and you lie about MRAs because you oppose equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:14 PM
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99% of feminists oppose MRAs, and their reasons are always rooted in misandry. Remember MRAs did not become anti-feminists until after feminists became anti-MRA. MRAs were feminists who wanted to work with feminism, it was feminists who decided that supporting equality is anti-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:11 PM
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I said objective facts. Maybe you don't know as much as you think you do because you get all of your information from echochambers. NOW fighting against equal custody rights for fathers is not "personal vibes." NCFM having to go all the way to the California Supreme Court to force the state to help male victims of DV was not an "online argument." Try actually learning shit before assuming you know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:47 AM
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Notice how MRAs always have specific examples while feminists can only be vague? Why don't you give specific examples of specific issues MRAs and feminists disagree on? MRAs fight against feminists feminists fought against MRAs first. MRAs started out as feminists and never wanted to fight against feminists. MRAs only fight against feminists because feminists fight against MRAs. And feminists fight against MRAs because MRAs support equality, which feminists are against.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:40 AM
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Wrong. Try doing actual research. MRAs were feminists. Why did they stop being feminists? What specific issues did feminists and MRAs disagree on? Notice how MRAs have specific examples while feminists can only be vague?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:39 AM
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idk what your point is but the mod I cited is the feminist who created menslib.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:41 AM
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“99% of feminists are against equality for men” is one of those claims people throw out with absolutely nothing backing it besides personal vibes and online arguments. You're young. You're too young to know what you're talking about. Feminist organizations lobbied against equal custody rights for fathers. They fought against male victims of abuse being taken seriously. They said men can't be raped by women. They said it's okay for women to impose rigid gender roles on men. You didn't know that b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:43 PM
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I can't answer you because I'll be banned. Go to a site that doesn't ban the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:35 PM
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Why do MRAs and feminists oppose each other? You don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:34 PM
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Why do MRAs and feminists oppose each other? You can't answer that because you don't know. I do know the answer which is why I'm an MRA
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:33 PM
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Can you prove it, or is it just another lie? go ask any feminist you know what they think of MRAs. Is that why almost every feminist sub has a male mod? You mean male mods who say misandry isn't real? and misandry doesn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:11 PM
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Then name a popular branch of feminism that supports MRAs in their fight for equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:10 PM
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where's the lie? Go to a site that doesn't ban the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:56 PM
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Boy. I love my female privilege. I am a feminist because I love sexism thanks for admitting it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:54 PM
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Where are the feminists who support gender equality? Every feminist who supported gender equality became an anti-feminist. Go look into Warren Farrel or Erin Pizzey. Go watch the documentary about MRAs. Feminists who support equality for men are hated by all other feminists. Edit: Downvotes but no answer. Typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:46 PM
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I have never researched men's issues or feminism and I can't feel empathy for men but I've been brainwashed to hate men despite not knowing why ok misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:42 PM
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Except all of those "radical feminists" support "patriarchy" when it benefits women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:40 PM
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You're right Donald Trump Jr. used the same analogy about refugees and feminists thought it was unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:39 PM
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The shuttering irony of trying to state that feminists are responsible for their absolutely worst examples, while going on to whine about the fact that 90-97% of serious acts of violence like permanent maiming and death are caused by men in d.v situations is lost on you I assume? Feminists are being judged by 99% of feminists. Feminist organizations, academic feminists, etc. How many feminists do you know who support MRAs?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:38 PM
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Your race is a disadvantage, your gender an advantage. and her gender is more of an advantage. I posted sources above but statistically speaking a Black woman is better off than a White man. But feminists will never check their female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:26 PM
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Did you know that as a Black woman, you are treated better than a White man?. Check your female privilege. Some of those links are dead now. Here are current links that I recently dug up in a similar debate with another feminist (he ended up claiming that feminism would solve this even though he didn't even know this was a problem until I told him, just like you didn't know that Black women are privileged): The first link is dead. You can see similar numbers on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.or…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:25 PM
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The gender pay gap exists because women impose gender roles on men. If women do equal work they get equal pay, but most women want men to do more work. Why do women do the vast majority of this? Because it's more rewarding than working a real job. Women are the ones enforcing these roles not men. You could work and find a stay at home husband but you don't want that because you think those men are weak. Health inequalities for women are widely documented. Women’s medicine is treated a joke. I su…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:17 PM
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If you actually delved into feminist discourse, you would find numerous discussions and debates about radical feminists and whether their ideas had merit or if it was unproductive extremism. Comments like this are how you can tell feminists are just parroting what you've been told by other feminists. Every popular branch of feminism is anti-equality. The only branches of feminism that don't hate men are fringe branches like Equity Feminism. You are never discussing, reviewing, updating, or reass…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:04 PM
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We want equality Name a western country where that is true of most feminists. It definitely isn't true in the US, UK, Canada, or Australia. I don't know about globally but in the anglosphere, only misandrists or ignorant cultists call themselves feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:38 PM
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I don't know anything about MRAs and I'm too lazy to research it so I will just hate men instead
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:37 PM
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Feminism is not one centralized ideology with a single doctrine. It’s a broad political and social movement with competing schools of thought. those "competing schools of thought" don't disagree much when it comes to men's rights though. The only feminists who support equality for men, like Equity Feminists, are extreme fringe feminists that 99% of feminists are against.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:36 PM
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Men are born that way, feminists choose to join a hateful cult. If you're too much of an NPC to research that hateful cult before you defend it then that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:34 PM
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Most feminists support misandry. Whereas misogynistic MRAs are so rare that whenever feminists are asked for examples you always either pick men who are not even MRAs, or you claim that anti-feminism is misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:33 PM
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I will get banned from reddit if I explain the difference. Go to a less cultish site if you want an honest answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:31 PM
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but at the same time they will pressure partners sexually, Women pressure men more than men pressure women, most of you reject men who aren't sexually assertive. Why do you think casual sex only became normalized recently when feminism took over and women had all of the power in dating? How common was casual sex in the 50s? ignore consent cues wtf does that mean? If the answer is no then say no and almost all men will respect it. Stop giving "cues" that most women want men to ignore anyway becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:25 PM
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Men overestimate how many of you actually are "good" ones. no we don't, if anything we underestimate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:22 PM
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How did you feel when Donald Trump Jr. used the same analogy about refugees?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:21 PM
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There are misogynists under the “men’s rights” umbrella, Very few though. Misandrists are the majority of feminists. Every feminist organization, academic feminists, etc. In any feminist community, misandry is the dominant view (including every feminist subreddit, where all of the mods are misandrists). Whereas misogynists are so rare among MRAs that when feminists are asked to provide examples of misogynistic MRAs they usually either pick men who are not MRAs (like Tate) or they claim that anti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:17 PM
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the "manosphere" is a weaponized term because it is used dishonestly to target MRAs by lying and saying that MRAs are the same as misogynistic parts of the "manosphere"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:04 AM
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Women reject men for not being dominant more than men reject women for not being submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:03 AM
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When MRAs accuse feminists of misandry we always have sources. But when you accuse MRAs of misogyny you don't and you ignored my questions: Where has Warren Farrell (the first man to serve on the Board of Directors at NOW) advocated against women's rights? Where did Karen DeCrow (former president of NOW) advocate against women's rights? Where did Erin Pizzey (founder of the world's first battered women's shelter) advocate against women's rights? When has NCFM (co-founded by feminists) advocate a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:44 PM
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No, I call you a misandrist because you pretend that all of mainstream feminism and all major feminist organizations and academic feminists are a "boogeyman." Anybody who isn't a misandrist knows that misandry is the dominant view of feminism, not a boogeyman. The few feminists who actually support equality accept that most other feminists are against them. CHS even calls herself the "anti-feminist feminist" because she knows most feminists don't agree with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:24 PM
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except MRA MRAs used to be most of the "manosphere" and feminists pushed the idea of a unified "manosphere" specifically because none of you had any valid reasons to oppose a movement that genuinely supports equality for both men and women, so you had to lump MRAs in with misogynists. MRAs might be dying out (due to misandrist opposition against them which ironically drove young men into actual misogynist movements instead) but MRAs are still relevant and I still see feminists say things like ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:19 PM
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"manosphere" is a collection of ideologies that are opposed to each other and makes as little sense as putting feminists and tradwives together. "Manosphere" is primarily used by feminists who hate MRAs because MRAs support equality, but feminists know they can't just admit that's why they hate MRAs so they lie and say these other ideologies are the same. It's not a new thing, feminists used to claim RooshV and Elliot Rodger and /r/TheRedPill were MRAs because they couldn't find actual misogyny …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:15 PM
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Tradwives have basically nothing to do with the rest of them you mean like how MRAs have nothing to do with TRPers and PUAs and other parts of the manosphere? Yet misandrists lump them together because you need an excuse to justify your hatred of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:09 PM
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NOW and Feminist Majority Foundation and NOMAS are boogeymen Women's Studies professors are boogeymen Feminist politicians like Obama are boogeymen The UN are boogeymen lmao you misandrists really do some gymnastics to justify your hatred of men I can almost instantly find people blaming everything on women, advocating against women’s rights, and claiming that women are always lying or seeking to manipulate anyone they can. Where has Warren Farrell (the first man to serve on the Board of Directo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:04 PM
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Every other day on this sub is a new complaint about misandrists and? What's the problem with that? Feminism is a misandrist ideology. MRAs are not misogynists which is why feminists have to pretend MRAs are lumped in with groups that hate MRAs
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:01 PM
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Lumping the different male ideologies into "manosphere" was pushed by feminists specifically to attack MRAs. MRAs just want equality for men and women. Feminists obviously hate equality, so they oppose MRAs. But feminists couldn't admit that the reason they hate MRAs is because MRAs support equality (because then that would shatter the lie that feminism is about equality). So feminists started lying and saying that TRPers, PUAs, etc are the same as MRAs so they could pretend that misandry isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:55 PM
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and yet women are obviously a lot more interested in casual sex than men are, which is why casual sex became common once dating dynamics favored women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:10 PM
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and yet you don't have enough fingers to count even 10% of the guys you rejected because he wasn't dominant enough. Those are the men who would have gladly gone down on you, but you thought men who eat women out aren't manly enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:43 AM
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only because women want it that way. It's easier for a woman to find a man to eat her out than it is for a man to find a woman to suck his dick. But women want dominant men, not a man who will go down on her. Women have no right to complain about their own choices. Any woman who wants a guy to go down on her gets that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:42 AM
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Who told you women are opposed to hookups? Women are the reason for hookups. Before modern feminism, hookups were extremely rare. They became standard once modern dating dynamics gave women all of the power in dating. Women love hookups, otherwise they wouldn't keep rejecting relationships in favor of hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:38 AM
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I'm not allowed to link the subreddits but there are two different subreddits for supporting rape victims. Both subreddits used to automatically ban anybody (including male rape victims) who posted in /r/MensRights. When it got discovered, one sub said that it was one moderator who did it without the others knowing. They apologized, removed that moderator, reversed the bans, and said that their subreddit is also for support of men raped by women. But the other subreddit doubled down on their bel…
/r/MensRights22/05/26 09:21 PM
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Support free speech organizations: https://www.fire.org/ https://ncac.org/
/r/MensRights22/05/26 11:23 AM
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they lie about everything on that sub and then ban anybody who comes with actual sources. /r/mensrights doesn't ban people who come here criticizing us, we just correct them and provide actual information. The fact that one sub can only handle criticism by banning while our sub is happy to debate and provide sources really tells you which one is on the right side.
/r/MensRights22/05/26 11:20 AM
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The encouraging part though is that the UN is always blasted in the replies on Twitter. You can scroll the feeds of UN and UN_Women and see them regularly do this, but the replies are always calling them out for the misandry. Here's a recent one where the UN got ratioed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/26 01:06 PM
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What did UN Men post?
/r/MensRights20/05/26 10:05 PM
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Feminists oppose men's rights so I should oppose women's rights this is child's thinking. You're a child. And definitely not an MRA. If you want a movement to mimic feminism, start your own movement. Stop trying to hijack a movement that you have never been a part of and do not understand. EDIT: The PMC grifters are trying to recruit me in another thread because I had one of the top posts for the month on this subreddit. These grifters do not know anything about MRAs and reject everything we sta…
/r/MensRights20/05/26 01:10 AM
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I've been supporting Pizzey for 30 years. You didn't know she existed until 3 years ago. We've heard Farrel and Pizzey's names for decades it feels like. You didn't hear their names until 3 years ago. Because you're a child with no history in this movement. NCFM took California to court AND WON because they wouldn't help male victims of DV. And you say that NCFM are not real MRAs. What have you done? All you've done is attack the one movement that has actually helped men. And then lied about it.…
/r/MensRights20/05/26 01:02 AM
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You're a child. You have never been part of the MRM, you do not undestand the MRM, and that's why you're now trying to pivot to Zionism. Because you know you're a child who didn't even know MRAs existed 3 years ago. You say Farrell and the NCFM are not MRAs because you're an ignorant child. EDIT: The PMC grifters are trying to recruit me in another thread because I had one of the top posts for the month on this subreddit. These grifters do not know anything about MRAs and reject everything we st…
/r/MensRights20/05/26 12:55 AM
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LMAO you PMC fuckers are in another thread shit-talking me because you aren't actually MRAs and don't even fucking know what MRAs stand for. Let me be clear: I have been an MRA for over 30 years. I have more experience and know more about MRAs than all of PMC combined. MRAs are egalitarians. We advocate for men's rights but we support women's rights too because we are egalitarians and support equality for both men and women. You PMC assholes are in the other thread telling me that you are not eg…
/r/MensRights20/05/26 12:47 AM
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MRAs support equality for both men and women, and many MRAs including Farrell, Pizzey, etc. fought for women's rights too. The fact that you repeatedly refuse to say you are an egalitarian and refuse to say you support women's rights means you aren't actually an MRA and you don't understand our movement. EDIT: The PMC grifters are trying to recruit me in another thread because I had one of the top posts for the month on this subreddit. These grifters do not know anything about MRAs and reject ev…
/r/MensRights19/05/26 01:40 AM
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yes I have. I've been to MRA conferences. You're some fucking kid who thinks you can take over a movement that you obviously don't understand. This isn't a male supremacist movement. It's an egalitarian movement. We stand for equality for both men and women. MRAs were feminists who left feminism because feminism was "pro female." Why would we want to just be the same thing in reverse? Warren Farrell is not "pro male" he is just pro equality. But you don't know anything about him or the origins o…
/r/MensRights19/05/26 01:35 AM
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still not answering the question. So you are not an MRA and you do not even understand what this movement is. You're a grifter trying to co-opt a movement you aren't part of. I've been an MRA since the 90s. I've actually fought for men's rights. But MRAs are egalitarians for equality for both men and women, not a gender-swapped version of feminism like grifters like you want. EDIT: The PMC grifters are trying to recruit me in another thread because I had one of the top posts for the month on thi…
/r/MensRights18/05/26 10:39 PM
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You didn't answer the questions. Are you egalitarians? Do you support women's equality too? Or are you just a gender-swapped version of feminism? EDIT: The PMC grifters are trying to recruit me in another thread because I had one of the top posts for the month on this subreddit. These grifters do not know anything about MRAs and reject everything we stand for. They will attack me in one thread and try to recruit me in another because they don't even know what an MRA is.
/r/MensRights18/05/26 10:22 PM
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The name is concerning. Are you "pro male" or "pro equality"? MRAs are not the male version of feminists, we're egalitarians. Your name sounds like you're just as bad as feminism but for men. Are you, or are you true egalitarians who support equality for both men and women like MRAs do? EDIT: The PMC grifters are trying to recruit me in another thread because I had one of the top posts for the month on this subreddit. These grifters do not know anything about MRAs and reject everything we stand …
/r/MensRights18/05/26 10:05 PM
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Intersectional feminists don't want to address the fact that gay men face more persecution than gay women.
/r/MensRights18/05/26 10:03 PM
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Feminists have always been really good at gaining institutional power, including the UN. They've been a feminist organization for a long time.
/r/MensRights18/05/26 09:58 PM
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previous statements by the UN make it clear they think men are disposable and only care about women in Ukraine though
/r/MensRights18/05/26 09:56 PM
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since social media. It's a common verb on Twitter and YouTube referring to when a reply gets more likes than the OP
/r/MensRights18/05/26 09:55 PM
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Where is UN Men?
/r/MensRights18/05/26 09:55 PM
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no, clearly men have too much privilege for that /s
/r/MensRights18/05/26 09:50 PM
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"gynocentric patriarchy" is sometimes used to refer to the fact that historically men had a lot of power but used that power to benefit women because they believed that women were more important than men.
/r/MensRights18/05/26 12:56 AM
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lol ask any feminist about the Ukraine war. Feminists want Ukraine to draft men.
/r/MensRights15/05/26 01:09 AM
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show me what UN Men says then
/r/MensRights15/05/26 12:20 AM
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I upvoted you because you shouldn't be downvoted just because you're pointing this out. But, you'd have a point if this were an isolated tweet but this is a pattern from the UN of always focusing on female victims and ignoring men: Ukraine: Three years of war reverses progress for women and girls As Hurricane Melissa made landfall in the Caribbean, our thoughts are with women & girls affected. 11% of journalists killed are women
/r/MensRights14/05/26 11:57 PM
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flaired "Progress" not because of the United Nations tweet but because the reply calling out the UN for misandry has 5x more likes than the original tweet. Feminist institutions like the UN might hate men but the public is not afraid to call them out for it.
/r/MensRights14/05/26 11:33 PM
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Public universities also gave college credit to Women's Studies majors to edit Wikipedia with a feminist bias That said, OP is also focusing too much on opinions and not enough on facts.
/r/MensRights14/05/26 08:32 PM
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I appreciate your work and hope you keep at it, but Wikipedia is very clear about argumentative language. Statements like The men’s rights movement (MRM) is often dismissed as inherently misogynistic, yet this label obscures the very real struggles faced by men in today’s society. From soaring suicide rates and educational disparities, to family court bias, higher homeless rates and workplace fatalities, men confront systemic issues that rarely receive mainstream attention. are never allowed. My…
/r/MensRights14/05/26 08:30 PM
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There was a college that allowed anonymous rape accusations from anybody not just students. So MRAs started falsely accusing the feminists who made the decision along with fictional characters
/r/MensRights14/05/26 08:04 PM
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you clearly haven't talked to many feminists about male loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:38 PM
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This is a great post, I wish posts like this got more upvotes instead of the clickbait titles that get hundreds of upvotes here
/r/MensRights10/05/26 10:17 PM
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"Women are afraid men will kill them, men are afraid women will laugh at him"
/r/MensRights09/05/26 09:03 PM
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literally just talk to men instead of fucking them. Any woman who has trouble dating is rejecting men who want to talk to her because she thinks those men are weak. She wants the dominant men who only want to fuck her and thinks men who talk to her are boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 09:48 PM
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Do you mean Are you rejecting a man because he's not assertive and dominant? Reevaluate what's important. Women who end up with bad men usually reject good men just because he is not assertive enough. She values traditional gender roles more than she values a good partner. This includes feminists btw, feminists would rather get played by a traditional man than have a relationship with a man who treats her like an equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 07:10 PM
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Are you attracted to him because he's exciting dominant and assertive? Step back and look at his other traits. Are you rejecting a man because he's not assertive and dominant? Reevaluate what's important. Imagine it's your sister that's the problem. In the past, women were encouraged to go for guys that her brother or dad approved of. Now they choose the guys that her dad would hate because she thinks it's exciting. You can also just talk to men instead of fucking them, and stop rejecting men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:40 PM
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engaging in casual sex when you could choose to have a serious relationship instead is not the same as wanting casual sex instead of a serious relationship yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:13 PM
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go ask your grandparents how common casual sex was for them before feminism changed things. It's obvious that women are the ones driving this because any woman having casual sex is rejecting committed relationships in favor of casual sex while men who want commitment are often rejected. You're objectively wrong for thinking otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:59 PM
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Most men don't want that. Women are the ones who want casual sex. Before modern feminism gave women all of the power, this didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:41 PM
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and yet we just keep hearing about how Tate is turning boys into misogynists. No mention of how feminists turning women into misandrists is obviously the bigger issue
/r/MensRights15/04/26 09:52 PM
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I'm ready for my ban lol you're so used to your cult that you think everywhere else is also an echochamber. MRAs don't usually ban people because we actually have facts on our side. Your feminist echochambers have to ban people because they're lying to you.
/r/MensRights13/04/26 01:49 AM
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This is an old issue. Trudeau started this like 10 years ago. Canadian MRAs tried to get him to include men and boys but he refused because Trudeau is a feminist.
/r/MensRights11/04/26 02:29 PM
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So when men get cheated on or end up with toxic partners, is that their fault for not spotting it early? men don't have the options that women have. Men have to settle while women get any guy she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:09 AM
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They don't open with cheating or abuse they open with obvious red flags that anybody who isn't an idiot would see. So are you implying that women are all fucking idiots?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:52 AM
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wrong doing who says it's wrong? The woman he fucked obviously doesn't think it's wrong, because she chose him instead of men who wouldn't cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 01:54 AM
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Date guys who are obviously nice. Reject guys who are obviously shit. Women who do that usually don't get abused or cheated on and usually end up married to a great guy. mind-reading powers lol are you implying that women are all fucking idiots? Because most of the time you don't need mind-reading powers to tell the good guys from the bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:04 PM
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It's actually INCREDIBLY obvious to other men when a guy is an abuser or narcissist. This is true, but: Women just tend to think they can fix him or get dazzled by how hot he is there's more than that. The women who end up with guys like that will date a short bald guy because he's an asshole. They want the shitty guy not to fix him but because they think it's exciting. They think nice guys are boring and will reject an attractive nice guy for an ugly asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:51 PM
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lol it's almost always obvious as fuck. Women date those guys because they think it's more exciting than dating a nice guy. Abusive women men don't have choices. Men end up with abusive women out of desperation because he doesn't have any other options. Women choose abusive men while rejecting 100 non-abusive men because she thinks nice guys are boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:49 PM
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Most women who get cheated on think players are exciting and loyal men are boring. How is it the man's fault if he's just being the kind of guy she's attracted to? If he valued commitment she never would have been with him in the first place. Women who get cheated on had other men to choose from. She didn't want them because she thinks it's boring to date a man who will never cheat on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:47 PM
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Agency means making your own decision. 99% of the time a woman gets burned by a man she rejected a guy who would have treated her better but she thinks those men are boring. Women who genuinely want an actual nice guy almost never end up getting abused or cheated on. It happens, but very rarely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:45 PM
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statistically you're wrong. A common "abuse" situation is a woman hits her husband, he hits her back, and then she cries to the cops. If you remember Ray Rice, that's what happened. She kept hitting him in the face repeatedly until he finally snapped and hit her back. Feminists called MRAs misogynists for saying that they were both wrong. Feminists said it's misogynistic to say that women shouldn't keep hitting her husband in the face if she doesn't want him to hit her back.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:44 PM
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whatever led to the divorce is probably something that's bad enough for someone to not want to live with on their own. the most common reason for divorce is the woman getting bored. IE she wants to go back to the dominant men who treat her as a fucktoy instead of the stable guy who is emotionally stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:38 PM
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lol. Most of the time women know which men are good or bad before they even have the first date. But you think that men who just want to fuck or who will abuse you are exciting, while nice guys are lame. Women openly mock nice guys because of how unattracted you are to men who value love and commitment and mutual respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:36 PM
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OP did not blame feminism for this specific issue, you brought it up. But feminism does tell MRAs that we shouldn't talk about any men's issues (including this) because we have too much privilege. So even though feminism didn't cause this problem, feminism does prevent us from fixing it.
/r/MensRights07/04/26 09:39 PM
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another gem from the UN: Ukraine: Three years of war reverses progress for women and girls
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:37 PM
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I don't agree with you, but I respect you because you're honest. At least you admit you don't believe in equality instead of the feminists. None of them believe in equality either but they all lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:36 PM
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There are different varities of feminism, you cannot lump all feminists together when 99% of feminists oppose equality who cares about the other 1% However, I believe that many women do that as a reaction to the horrible red-pill ideology that dismisses the opinion of a person only because she's a woman bullshit, red pill didn't start until feminists opposed equality. A lot of red pillers are former MRAs who left our movement because feminists fought against equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:22 PM
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equal rights movement this thread is about feminism, a movement which everybody agrees opposes equal rights. So why are you talking about equal rights movements?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:22 PM
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You're also a woman. Can you admit that women use your female privilege to impose harmful sexism on men? Do you admit that you benefit from sexism as a woman? Will you as a woman try to dismantle the sexist systems that benefit you so men can be on par with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:19 PM
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I'm sure this sounded real smart in your head but it just makes it obvious you don't know shit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:17 PM
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almost all MRAs used to be feminists. Feminists say that MRAs hate women and want women in the kitchen but MRAs are just feminists who did the research that other feminists won't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:16 PM
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Like the fact that people even openly talk about men being sexually assaulted is because feminists spent decades normalizing that kind of conversation. WHAT THE FUCK!!! How can you fucking lie like this??? Your misandrist movement controls rape research and you hide female on male rapes. Anti-feminists are the actual reason people are finally starting to care about male victims that your movement told us didn't exist. Here are the statistics your misandrist movement shares. Feminists are the ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:15 PM
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When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression this explains why feminists hate MRAs. Privileged women feel oppressed by men who want equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:12 PM
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If men care about the women in their lives they should support misandry can you elaborate why you think men have to hate themselves in order to care about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:10 PM
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Yes, women still expect men to adhere to gender roles when it benefits women lol you can say that and not understand why no man thinks your movement is about equality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:10 PM
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I saw a video and it had a quote that fits perfectly. It said “Equality feels like oppression to the privileged” that explains why feminists all oppose men who support equality and say that MRAs want to oppress them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:08 PM
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they are too oppressed, only privileged males have to ask for permission to leave the country
/r/MensRights05/04/26 02:21 AM
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How does it benefit women that men take initiative? It makes dating easier for women than men which is why women all enforce this gender role even though they know men hate it. I have never met a woman who wants men to bottle up their feelings, generally every woman I know is begging the men in their lives to get therapy cause their feelings negatively impact everyone around them, so they certainly matter. lol no, women sometimes say that and then reject men who actually do it. There's a reason …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:22 AM
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It's reality. Are you a teenager? Women rarely date less assertive men or ask men out or take most of the initiative. That's reality and only misandrists pretend otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:30 PM
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for dating women expect men to take initiative, be assertive, be in charge, accept that his feelings don't matter, make the first move, etc. Outside of dating you want men to protect you and be disposable and do more work. You all deny it but then you call us misogynists whenever any man is against that. And none of you would ever date a man against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:28 PM
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and find a partner who shares your lifestyle women who support gender equality don't really exist because feminists taught women that it's okay for women to be sexist. I'm just here to say that I support sexism that benefits me same as all women. You don't want them "both to be happy and comfortable" because no woman wants that. You want to pressure men to give in to your sexism while they pretend they don't mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:15 PM
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flair is woman my problem is that it's usually a woman saying this to make excuses for the fact that men always had it worse with traditional gender roles and especially now that feminists got rid of the gender roles that are bad for women while defending gender roles that are bad for men. Why do women get to benefit from gender roles but men don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:49 PM
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You're making things up to defend your misandry because reality is against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:06 PM
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So your "sources" are just feminist lies lol. And men “consistently perceive a greater degree of sexual intent in women’s behavior” compared to women. why only in women's behavior? Why not men's behavior? Men are more likely than women to endorse myths like “rape accusations are often false” LMAO that's not a "myth" it's a fact. Feminists make up fake statistics like "only 2% of accusations are false" which is the real myth. Women use their female privilege to force men to take initiative so wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:37 PM
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women don't want equity either. Do they want equity in relationships? The justice system? Do they want equity in Ukraine? Equity or equality, women hate both because women know they are the privileged sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:01 PM
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That's why women are better at understanding consent wtf? Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:04 PM
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or they could abuse the legal system which is exactly what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:03 PM
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I've never seen them say equality is misandrist. They say it's not natural but I have never seen them call equality misandrist like feminists all say that equality is misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:38 PM
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Whether women agree with the specific examples, his point that most women think equality is misogynistic was proven objectively true by how women especially feminists reacted when MRAs wanted equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:00 PM
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which men see equality as misandrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:58 PM
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"Feminism is Patriarchy in pink lip stick." -Karen Straughen aka /u/GirlWritesWhat
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:55 PM
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whenever equality shows up, a lot of women see it as misogynistic. how can anybody possibly disagree? The hatred MRAs got for simply wanting equality is proof of that. MRAs were feminists who fought for women's rights but as soon as they started talking about the other half of equality they were villified and subjected to lies and smears. Feminists have made it perfectly clear that their movement thinks it's misogynistic to get rid of gender roles and double standards. That's not an opinion it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:55 PM
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If you don't hate men you're a misogynist how?
/r/MensRights12/03/26 12:37 AM
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You expect your husband to do those things because he's a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:16 AM
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was she like that when they first started dating? Or did she test him to make sure he was assertive first?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:15 AM
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they've all heard of it, they just lie because lying is the only thing blue pillers can do when they get exposed as hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:55 PM
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Why, oh why. Do we continuously see men telling everyone what women want? because women keep lying about what they want and men notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:54 PM
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expecting men to do it more than women is sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:51 PM
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Yes you do, you just dismiss it because you agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:31 PM
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feminists are the ones who invented the phrase "benevolent sexism" and they use it exactly the way OP did.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:31 PM
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sexist gender roles that benefit women isn't benevolent sexism then wtf are we supposed to call it? You're the ones who came up with this "benevolent sexism" bullshit in the first place when the rest of us wanted to just call it what it is: Sexism against men and female privilege. But you don't want us to call it that and now you don't want to use "benevolent sexism" either. You have sexist expectations and you use your female privilege to impose those sexist expectations on men. What should we …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:05 PM
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I like people who have agency, who are assertive, confident, decisive. You hold men to a higher standard on all 3 of those qualities. You are not as assertive, confident, or decisive as you expect men to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:02 PM
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patriarchy lol. And there are a lot of men who want a true egalitarian relationship, while no woman wants one. The tradcon men are willing to also uphold the male sides of traditionalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:53 PM
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being assertive and taking the lead in the relationship is a big one. Even the most progressive women I've known don't want an egalitarian relationship, the want the man to take more initiative and be the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:51 PM
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You're illiterate. Blame the single mother who raised you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:38 PM
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You're barely literate, obviously you don't understand how much privilege women have
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:08 AM
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shitty police work it's feminist police work. Your movement is the reason police are trained to believe that women are never the bad guy. false accusations are rare they aren't And these 19 examples prove it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 02:27 AM
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Is woman are supposed to know straight away if a guy is going to be a future abuser/cheater/pump n dump etc But guys are allowed to ignore glaring red flags in a first date, like she insists on a 3 course fancy dinner that you pay for, she asks for money in advance. Because poor men never get a chance If men had as many options as women do then you'd be right but women have 1000 men to choose from. Men get rejected by 1000 women and have to settle for what he can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:12 PM
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Many men have saved themselves from false accusations of rape or DV thanks to having videos. And given how many female abusers use false accusations as a weapon, these users are also victim-blaming male victims of domestic violence.
/r/MensRights07/03/26 04:30 PM
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which will just result with a woman getting pumped and dumped. men's dating advice to women is literally to not date those guys. The only women who get pumped and dumped are women who ignore men's dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:30 PM
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Men's dating advice tends to be a lot more honest and actually works. Women's dating advice is terrible and leads to men who can't figure out why women just want to be friends with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 05:37 PM
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no, it's most men that you want to have sex with because you think other men are pussies because you're sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 02:44 AM
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that still doesn't make half of rapists women it only makes 40% of rapists women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 02:43 AM
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that's great, congrats! so my advice is: Take initiative and show a man that you actually care. Most women are too sexist to do that and expect the man to do everything. If you want a relationship instead of a hookup then make it clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:38 AM
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That's amazing!!! Great job
/r/MensRights04/03/26 03:35 AM
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We aren't big enough to split the sub, especially now. People are free to ask MRA questions on this sub.
/r/MensRights04/03/26 02:33 AM
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I don't care about this issue enough to research it so I asked ChatGPT
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:48 AM
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Every feminist I see supports Ukraine so they are part of the problem.
/r/MensRights03/03/26 02:21 AM
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Most feminists support Ukraine. Do you?
/r/MensRights03/03/26 02:20 AM
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because MRAs don't have any voice in debates. The left are feminists and the right are tradcons and both feminists and tradcons think men are disposable
/r/MensRights03/03/26 02:19 AM
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>But that still doesnt make half of rapists women. but it does make [40% of rapists women](https://imgur.com/zOmQ0UO). Feminists won't tell you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:04 AM
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lmao you're an actual NPC and don't even understand what you just copy/pasted. Regarding sexual violence, authoritative crime and victimization data consistently show that the majority of rape perpetrators are male. Broader survey categories such as “made to penetrate” show that men can also be victims and that female perpetrators exist, but this does not support the claim that half of rapists are women. Most people other than feminists believe that "made to penetrate" should be considered rape,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:02 AM
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no there isn't much overlap. OP only wants to date the men who want sex on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:36 PM
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there are men who want the latter, and most of the actual "husband material" guys would be fine waiting 3 months. OP's problem is that she's either fat or she doesn't like the type of man who cares about relationships more than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:31 PM
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You're either fat or you're not putting in even half the effort the man does and aren't actually showing him you're interested. He's interpreting it as you not wanting him. My advice: If you're fat lose weight. Otherwise: Make it clear that you like him and find him attractive, but you don't like casual sex. If you do online dating put it in your profile that you have never believed in casual sex (if it's for religious reasons that will turn a lot of guys away but be upfront). And take initiativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 10:50 PM
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I'm not flaired as "red pill" because as an MRA I want equality so I obviously don't agree with red pill or blue pill. But: If you date bad boys because you think men who are respectful, want commitment, and treat you like an equal are boring then it's your fault when it backfires.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:19 PM
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There are many, many women who will date a fat bald guy who will disrespect and cheat on her over a more attractive man who treats her well and wants commitment. A lot of women think good guys are boring and will even overlook physical attractiveness to be with the shitty guys because they're exciting, and then when it doesn't work out they blame men instead of themselves. Women will seek out the cheaters and abusers then refuse to take accountability for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:12 PM
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Women want men with experience. Men faking it helps them gain experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:50 AM
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I'm too busy to moderate one but it would be a good idea for somebody to create if there isn't one already. Just don't make it an MRA sub, because 1) other men also want to rant and 2) some of these "no-filter" rants will inevitably be things we don't want associated with us.
/r/MensRights17/02/26 11:33 PM
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here is how the United Nations responds to Ukraine forcing men to die in their draft So no shit they don't want identical treatment for women.
/r/MensRights17/02/26 11:32 PM
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This is the head of UN Women As Hurricane Melissa made landfall in the Caribbean, our thoughts are with women & girls affected. @UN_Women is working with national governments & sister @UN agencies to ensure their safety & well being, & to mobilize resources for early recovery, protection & livelihood support and another post by UN Women: https://i.imgur.com/aMy0v6B.jpeg And yet another one, about Ukraine drafting men: https://www.ungeneva.org/en/news-media/news/2025/02/103512/ukraine-three-years…
/r/MensRights16/02/26 10:41 PM
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Last I checked, most feminists support Ukraine drafting men. You're happy to watch men die while you enjoy your female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:01 AM
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Actually a really good example since 99% of the people dying are male. Stop buying misandrist propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:00 AM
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Men: "I want a woman is is not obese and is not a selfish piece of shit" OP: "WTF there are very few women who meet those standards!!!" telling on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:34 PM
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Seems like masculinity isn’t really as important as everyone here likes to claim. until SHTF. Ask Ukrainian feminists how important masculinity is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:32 PM
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There are no feminist women who expect men to ask them out first There are no feminist women who expect men to make the first move There are no feminist women who expect men to take more initiative There are no feminist women who reject a man if he's not assertive enough the fact that every feminist has to lie about your beliefs means your movement is fake. Women want equal partners, not traditional gender roles. Traditional gender roles only exist because women (including you) refuse to date me…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:29 PM
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Gen Z men are. Gen Z women are more leftist. And this tracks with the fact that feminist women are more likely to enforce traditional gender roles that benefit women. Conservative women prefer men who are strong and assertive but are willing to make exceptions, while feminist women feel more entitled to only date dominant men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:42 PM
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and it's obvious who those 3 are. But women reject them for being boring because to many women good guy = boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 08:37 PM
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There is no difference between how pumpers and dumpers and relationship seeking men behave nobody believes this not even you. It's usually very obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 08:36 PM
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but women don't filter super well. Instead most women actually filter to choose the sex seekers, deceivers, pumpers and dumpers because women find those men more exciting. Either that or she filters so hard that her standards become impossible. Fewer options would force women to settle down earlier and maybe choose an honest guy who wants love instead of a deceiver who wants sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:52 AM
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I see this from the Right as much as from the Left. Even Andrew Tate says that men are supposed to protect women. Everybody except MRAs thinks that men are just disposable and are supposed to risk our own lives for women we've never met.
/r/MensRights10/02/26 02:24 AM
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this, MGTOW is a good lifestyle choice for those who don't mind being forever alone, but the movement definitely has toxic misogynist parts that don't belong in the MRM.
/r/MensRights09/02/26 10:39 PM
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because women want players. Maybe women should stop choosing those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:00 PM
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You seem to be under the impression that men have the same options women do. I didn't need to see your flair to know that you're a woman because only a woman thinks that. If the average man had 1000 women to choose from and men consistently chose bad women then you'd have a point. But men don't. The average woman does have 1000 men to choose from so we can criticize which of those men she chooses.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:59 PM
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There are many self proclaimed "traditional" men that ridicule men who fight for their rights and call them pussyys you do have a point, it's true and a lot of conservatives have insulted me for wanting equality. But while they call us pussies, actual Republicans in charge are not actively fighting to prevent men's equality the way Democrats are
/r/MensRights08/02/26 09:35 PM
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The right does not support MRAs. But they don't fight against us either. The right is neutral on men's equality while the left is openly misandrist. Republicans don't give a shit about me but Democrats actively hate me. I will side with the ones who are neutral over the side that fights against me. Most MRAs including this sub used to be leftwing until the left fought against equality.
/r/MensRights07/02/26 11:10 PM
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Most feminists believe this. They usually phrase it as "he wasn't listening to her" or something, but they make excuses for it. Same with why men yell at women vs why women yell at men.
/r/MensRights06/02/26 11:42 PM
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Women check out of dating until they get older and then they want to date the men they rejected before. And don't forget that men pay taxes which go to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:53 AM
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See my other comment here. The government is purposefully discriminating against men. They thought they were discriminating against women, so they tried gender-blind hiring, but then when they found out that gender-blind hiring lead to more men and fewer women getting hired, they stopped.
/r/MensRights30/01/26 05:36 PM
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This is intentional btw and the Australian government is aware that they are discriminating against men. Feminists thought that Australia was discriminating against women in the public sector. So the Australian public service switched to gender-blind hiring. Except that ended up benefiting men. So Australia stopped the gender-blind hiring because they wanted to go back to discrimination once they knew the discrimination was against men. "We anticipated this would have a positive impact on divers…
/r/MensRights30/01/26 04:18 PM
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I don't know anything about gender issues but feminism has given me a false sense of confidence also I hate men so much that I mock you and roll my eyes at men's lives being treated less than women's lives typical feminist. And you really need a citation on gender gaps in the justice system? Fine, here you go you ignorant misandrist. Now go do some actual fucking research instead of being a sexist asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:17 AM
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Because misogyny is obviously less common than misandry and women obviously have it better than men. Sometimes people have a tendency to dismiss uncommon problems, so while misogyny does exist, it's natural for people to ignore it because of how insignificant it is. The fact that supporting gender equality is the most common example of "misogyny" that feminists give isn't helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:27 AM
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If women want to be politicians and leaders, let them. they don't. What they want is to pretend to be oppressed because other women also don't want to be politicians and leaders. Being a politician and leader is a hard thankless job where people insult you. Women don't want that. The women who do enter politics (like AOC and Hillary Clinton) usually complain that they're treated the same as male politicians.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:44 PM
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The US did that 100 years ago. And so far feminists have only sought to increase the "patriarchy" wherever it benefits women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:39 PM
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The draft. The justice system being so sexist that White men are worse off than Black women. Women expecting men to take the initiative in dating. Male disposability. Lack of support for male rape victims and DV victims. Of course I don't think any feminists whining about "patriarchy" give a shit about any of those issues. Inequality does exist, it's just that the feminists your post was directed toward are the ones fighting to keep that inequality alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:38 PM
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How do you feel about the fact that most "Blue Pill Women" are feminists and, obviously, feminists are the ones fighting against fixing discriminatory laws, attitudes, and practices? Do you ever challenge feminist blue pill women for their defense of discriminatory laws, attitudes, and practices?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:35 PM
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Minimizing gender roles would this include specifically teaching women that it's sexist against men when they expect men to take initiative and reject a man for being less assertive? Most Blue Pill Women I've met make an exception when it comes to gender roles that are sexist against men. Apparently gender roles are fine when women are the ones enforcing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:28 PM
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well r/AskFeminists bans anybody who is not a feminist because they don't actually want anybody asking real questions. I was shadowbanned from there before I ever even posted there presumably because of my posts on subs like /r/mensrights that they don't approve of.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:18 PM
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In my opinion the majority of allegations of rape made to the police are false. You're entitled to your opinion but IMO it's probably around 20-25%. Still you're right that it's too easy and there aren't consequences.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 08:25 PM
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Especially the part about gender roles, most women are pushing away from that yet guys here are convinced feminists want it lol what? The VAST majority of women including feminists still expect men to take more initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:48 PM
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Legal Parental Surrender. Sometimes referred to as a paper abortion, even though it's really more similar to adoption. Which women have the right to do without telling the father and without paying child support. Men just want that same right.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:05 PM
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Weird how this "the child's rights matter more than the parents' rights" only applies to men. Women can give a child up for adoption without paying child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:04 PM
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No way would I oppose it the law exists to prevent infant murder. so if men start killing their child to get out of paying child support, would you support legal parental surrender?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:03 PM
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I assume you see no need for women to have abortions then right? And are fine with Republicans banning them as long as they don't also ban birth control for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:01 PM
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The side effects were significantly more severe and more widespread than the side effects women go through. But the same feminists who blame "the patriarchy" for telling men to man up told us that we should just man up because REAL MEN could handle far worse side effects than what women have (including a man committing suicide during the trial btw).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:59 PM
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considering its training dataset likely contains numerous feminist texts A lot of ChatGPT's training was on reddit. OP's post makes it look like things have improved but I remember early versions of ChatGPT were very biased against men and didn't recognize men's issues or sexism against men. Google Google is an extremely feminist company. They would intentionally design their AI to be misandrist.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 11:56 AM
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I remember feminist teachers telling us that women earn 77% of what men do for the same job. The "men are privileged and women are oppressed" narrative and "feminism is about equality" were treated as fact by the school. There wasn't any room for debate or discussion, those were just presented as basic facts that we were all supposed to accept. Women's issues were emphasized and often exaggerated while men's issues were downplayed or never even talked about.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 11:51 AM
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You're wrong but you still shouldn't be downvoted. Let me give you some real info: https://imgur.com/zOmQ0UO Those are the stats for rape if you include female-on-male-rape. Feminist rape statistics don't count men raped by women.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 02:07 AM
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He can also take the precaution of not being raped You're probably a feminist aren't you? I'm assuming since usually when somebody tells a man that it's his fault for being raped (like you just did), it's a feminist.
/r/MensRights23/01/26 01:59 AM
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It's your fault for choosing to be raped let me guess, you're a feminist?
/r/MensRights23/01/26 01:58 AM
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Oh I see, just a man-hating feminist telling male rape victims that male rape victims don't count
/r/MensRights23/01/26 01:54 AM
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13-year-old rape victims should have just not let themselves get raped typical feminist response. Next you will tell us how feminists care about male rape victims
/r/MensRights23/01/26 01:50 AM
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In what world do hookers cost $525 an hour The US. Most large cities now it's probably around $400/hr, so $525 would be slightly above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:51 AM
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even in first world countries, the mere fact that so many women choose to do sex work even when she could do the same jobs men do is proof that sex work is good work for women. If not, they would be in the factories.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:50 AM
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"sex work" is not just prostitution. OF, strippers, etc. are all sex workers. Sophie Rain makes $50million/year by posting bikini pictures. You think a man is getting that money? You think a 5/10 man is getting $2,000 in a single weekend at a strip club the way female strippers can even if she's not in great shape? Female sex workers not only get paid much more but also have much lower standards. A mid skinnyfat woman with no game can be a sex worker. Male sex workers are often tall and athletic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:35 AM
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How many men's rights people are just open misogynists? it's so rare for MRAs to be misogynists that feminists have to frequently lie about MRAs and point to people who aren't MRAs. While feminists who support equality are so rare that MRAs were forced to become anti-feminist simply because they support equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 10:04 AM
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We should all have those rights. But feminists are against that. So maybe if feminists have to experience what men go through, they will gain empathy and stop fighting against rights for everybody.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/26 12:19 AM
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Male rape victims have to pay child support. When an adult woman rapes a 13-year-old boy, he has to pay child support. Women also don't even have to tell the father she's pregnant. A woman can have a child and give it up for adoption while the father doesn't even know about it. Or she can trick another man into raising it because women are allowed to lie about paternity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/26 12:17 AM
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The right is immature and body shames both men and women. The left is immature and sexist because they only body shame men. took away your reproductive rights I'm guessing you're a woman? Because men never had those rights to begin with. Excuse me if I don't have a lot of sympathy for women complaining about losing rights that you always denied to men. Feminists have only themselves to blame because if they didn't keep fighting against men's reproductive rights then they probably would have had …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 02:10 AM
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Her fiance is like 6'3" and she was definitely short-shaming him because a lot of women think 5'10" is short. She backpedalled when she got called out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 02:05 AM
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The AOC thing was like 2 months ago. How did they forget already?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 08:39 PM
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lol what? I'm pretty sure literal chastity is common among femdom circles and men still have to pay for that. Why are women so reluctant to admit that you're the ones insisting that men have to be dominant?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:38 PM
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Yeah, I mean, the penetrator is risking 18 years of child support (even if he was raped) while the latter... ummm.... well I guess now there are a few Republican states that started treating women like equals after 50 years
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:36 PM
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Nothing you said is accurate. women dont enjoy hook ups that much hookup culture literally only exists because women want it. It didn't exist before Second Wave Feminism. Many men told women to stop hooking up and were called misogynists. Hookup culture became standard once women got all of the power in dating. Every woman who is hooking up also has men who want a serious relationships. Yes, obviously surveys show that women aren't happy, but they're still the ones choosing it. All you're doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:35 PM
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There was a thread on reddit about unconfirmed anectdotes LMAO I wouldn't expect anything else from a blue piller. It's a fact that most women are very shallow about height. And almost all women expect the man to take more initiative and be more assertive because 99% of women love traditional gender roles when it benefits them. Which is why almost all women would be single if held to their own standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:20 PM
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are you American? European feminists tend to have more egalitarian views on circumcision, but American feminists usually dismiss any complaints about circumcision. Recently some young American feminists are becoming better but that's just because America as a whole is becoming less accepting of circumcision.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/26 12:23 PM
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it never made sense to me because women are the majority of voters, and the politicians themselves have a tough job where everybody hates them. Female politicians can't handle even mild criticism. AOC can't even handle being called AOC. Women aren't in politics because they are used to being coddled and given special treatment. So they vote for male politicians who want to help women but not men. Also it's important to mention that plenty of Men care a lot more about women than their own gender.…
/r/MensRights10/01/26 10:40 PM
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I'm sorry you're being downvoted for this, I upvoted you because questions should be encouraged and I want people like you to be welcome here. This is a documentary about MRAs. It was made by an anti-MRA feminist and she planned on making it an anti-MRA documentary. She changed her mind once she actually interviewed MRAs and feminists and did the research. This is a history book on men's rights from 1970-2000. You can also look at more recent history, such as this 2012 speech by Warren Farrell w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/26 01:31 AM
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that was one isolated example. Compare to how often Trump made fun of men like Marco Rubio or Mike Bloomberg. It's not the same.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/26 01:20 AM
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The right will bodyshame any sort of man when they think they're a bad person, they'll body shame any sort of woman as well. That's the difference. The right doesn't discriminate, despite the accusations of them being misogynistic. But AOC would never mock a female conservative for having small breasts. The right bodyshames men and women because that's what humans do. The left bodyshames only men because that's what misandrists do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 11:00 PM
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Leftists say that if a man struggles with women it means he's a bad person who is clearly "deficient." Nevermind that height is one of the most important things women judge men on (AOC's fiance looks well over 6 feet tall)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 10:52 PM
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you can say that, but every single leftwing space except this one is feminist. Including on reddit. Here's the Socialism subreddit saying that feminism is more important than socialism And LateStageCapitalism saying that the MRM is a gateway to White supremacy. Their mods have also endorsed the extremely misandrist MensLib sub. Like it or not, every leftist space except LeftwingMaleAdvocates hates men. AOC is the most popular leftwing politician and she's a misandrist. Bernie Sanders was the bes…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 10:48 PM
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10 years from now you will see people in progressive groups openly talking about misogyny and misandry in the same way as if it’s obvious communal knowledge. Maybe even 5 years. As an MRA who was around since the 90s and saw the shift of the MRM from overwhelmingly leftwing to gradually becoming rightwing, I don't think it's going to be as big as you think. So far I've seen mostly insincere "patriarchy hurts men too" shit from the left. You can't genuinely support men's equality without acknowle…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 10:43 PM
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the go to insult for leftists against any man. That, and calling a man a virgin incel because a real man would be getting laid all the time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 10:27 PM
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feminist idea of men gravitating towards "macho" politics. it's so cringe that feminists think this is how things work. Remember the White Dudes for Harris ad targeting White males? Democrats actually thought this was the way to talk to male voters. And then the viral I eat carburetors for breakfast ad. Men don't give shit about being "macho" we care about one of the nation's most popular Democrats saying that short men are not manly and should be made fun of.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 10:24 PM
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feminists opposing male reproductive rights has nothing to do with my claim that women having equal reproductive rights is proof of the patriarchy this is why nobody who supports equality calls ourself a feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 09:06 PM
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I promise you I have read far more about feminism than you have and know far more about it than you do. Nobody informed about feminism actually thinks that movement is about equality at all. You should read about the history of MRAs and why MRAs became anti-feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 07:27 PM
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I have not read that specific book but I have read other things by Hooks and I'm not impressed at all. She doesn't outright hate men, that's it. She still downplays and dismisses men's issues and promotes the myth of male privilege. The fact that she is the one and only feminist that feminists ever use in these discussions, and she doesn't even actually care about men's issues, says a lot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 07:26 PM
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Okay what about now after Roe v Wade has been overturned? Male rape victims have to pay child support and women have no obligation to tell a man that he has a child. Feminists support these laws and call MRAs misogynists for wanting to change those laws. MRAs want women and men to both have rights, feminists want only women to have rights. And feminists like you are completely blind to how many issues men even have.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 07:24 PM
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I believe that due to societal norms men are expected to be chasers in a relationship and how do you feel about the fact that feminist women also have those expectations and most will mock any man who speaks out against it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/26 02:49 PM
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And egalitarian and feminism are not at all mutually exclusive. I don't understand why you'd say that. Because most feminists say that egalitarianism and feminism are mutually exclusive. If you want to call yourself a feminist I won't stop you. Christina Hoff Sommers still calls herself a feminist while being an egalitarian, so you're not alone. But 99% of feminists hate egalitarians.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/26 02:31 PM
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Isn't that how relationships are supposed to work? You meet a girl, be friends with her, get to know her, grow feelings for her, ask her out, get married, have 2.5 kids. What other method is there to start a relationship with a woman? Am i supposed to start relationships based on looks alone, or worse, online profile pictures? That seems insanely shallow and a recipe for disaster. women want shallow men. Women want men who are sexually dominant and just want to fuck her. That's exactly why most …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:42 PM
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in countries where women are the majority of voters and where women dictate traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:32 AM
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poor people and racial minorities I never understood how feminists say they're intersectional yet ignore this. They say they hate men because men commit most crime yet ignore the classism and racism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/26 11:34 PM
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WOW you are a horrible piece of shit. And an incredibly sheltered misandrist if you've never talked to a man in Ukraine or South Korea or many other countries who have complained about conscription. Or even in America, where there are Vietnam vets who became MRAs due to the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:45 PM
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Men in the US still have to register. Men in Ukraine are being forced to die, and feminists support it. Men in South Korea are conscripted and Korean feminists mock them. Men in Finland are conscripted and Finland is considered a feminist country.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:43 PM
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I have yet to meet a feminist who opposes Ukraine's draft. They always said that feminists are against the draft... and now none of them care when men are being forced to die.
/r/MensRights01/01/26 10:39 PM
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sort of but that has more to do with female privilege and the fact that women have a much larger dating pool than men to begin with. So when it shrinks for single mothers, they get closer to what men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:26 AM
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your female privilege is showing. A woman doing a few household chores is not the same as a man having to work long hours at a shitty job to be the primary earner. Most women still refuse to marry a man who earns less than she does because women know that it's easier to make the man work harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:22 AM
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you haven't spent much time in MRA spaces. MRAs do bring up the fact that men are more likely to be victims of violent crimes, are drafted, etc. Feminists dismiss this by saying that men are the perpetrators but MRAs don't care who the perpetrator is, we care about the victim
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:15 AM
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involve women not having a right or alleged right that men don't have either I see this so much. Feminists complain about female victims of DV or rape not being taken seriously enough, as if male victims are taken more seriously. Or feminists complaining about abortion while male rape victims have to pay child support.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 08:21 PM
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and it's especially annoying how many young feminists try to tell me this never happened. I was fighting for equality when those kids were in preschool and now they want to tell me that feminists never fought against equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/25 11:37 PM
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lol at you describing somebody supporting gender equality as an "undercover feminist attempt to drive division within the men's rights community." You're obviously not an MRA and you have no idea what the MRM even is.
/r/MensRights22/12/25 03:40 PM
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no views are really banned from here. Even feminists sometimes come and debate. I like that we welcome others to come learn about MRAs and hopefully change their minds. But we still need to make it clear to them that the men's rights movement is against traditional gender roles and traditionalist sexism.
/r/MensRights22/12/25 03:38 PM
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Tradcons resurgence is the price society pays for ignoring men. this. 10 years ago, a lot more young men were supporting MRAs. Feminism's opposition to MRAs is what turned so many men away from trying to fight for equality. So now we have tradcon shit. I don't like tradcons, but at least they're honest about what they want unlike feminists.
/r/MensRights22/12/25 03:34 PM
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They probably don't know what the word 'incel' (involuntary celibate) even means. I saw a feminist call Trump an incel. I don't even really like Trump but... how are you going to call him an incel lol
/r/MensRights20/12/25 09:48 PM
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You're the one who has cause and effect confused. If you have two equally attractive men, most women will go for the player who just wants sex over the man who wants to get to know her and wants a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:01 AM
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sexism of any kind harms us all Warren Farrell once said "All women's issues are men's issues and all men's issues are women's issues." It says something that MRAs all agree with that and feminists hate us for it.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 12:38 AM
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because I'm not misogynist the men's rights movement was started by feminists. MRAs fought for women's rights first. That's why it's so ridiculous that feminists claim MRAs hate women.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 12:19 AM
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it’s the most misandrist cesspool in the world ? to be fair it's got a lot of competition for that. The UK might not even be top 5 honestly.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 12:11 AM
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hookup some men just want relationships, not getting their dick wet. The fact that women prefer men who want casual sex over men who only want relationships says a lot though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:51 PM
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I personally have never started off not being attracted to a woman believe it or not, most other men actually care about personality and compatibility, not just physical attraction. Maybe you just want to fuck women, but most men care about more than that which requires time to get to know her. And that's where men and women differ, because despite how many women claim to care about that, most women actually just care about sexual chemistry which is why they lose interest in a guy who waits too …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 12:53 AM
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I don't know about Britain, but in the US it's mostly because people really don't realize how much misandry there is in the Democratic party. When Biden took office, he refused to give COVID aid to businesses owned by White males (he was sued and lost). But whenever I bring this up I get told I'm making things up. Hillary played the woman card against Bernie, but then when Trump called her out on it people acted like it never happened. There are so many examples. Obama refusing to make a White H…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/25 10:34 PM
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A Canadian man once changed his legal gender to woman to save money on car insurance since car insurance companies discriminate against men. A man could do the same here.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 09:00 PM
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Most individual feminists are not evil, just ignorant. The feminists at the top (the ones running feminist organizations, feminist professors, etc) are evil misandrists. Their followers are just naive and ignorant, and many have good intentions. It's why we should welcome discussions with feminists here.
/r/MensRights15/12/25 01:04 PM
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a 1% commenter the fact that you think this means anything at all means you're a troll. Are you in fucking high school?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:10 PM
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All of them are biased because they are trained on mainstream views, and mainstream society is biased against males. That study looked at gender bias in hiring from 22 LLMs and: Despite identical professional qualifications across genders, all LLMs consistently favored female-named candidates when selecting the most qualified candidate for the job.
/r/MensRights14/12/25 02:32 PM
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Feminism has always been open to debate and progressing ideas within the movement You're a troll because nobody would actually say this seriously. Feminism has a history of censoring anybody who supports equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:41 PM
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Feminists have lost on multiple issues so badly that they now have to gaslight and pretend they never opposed MRAs on those issues. Fathers should be treated the same as mothers for custody Male victims of domestic violence exist and should get the same support female victims get A woman forcing a man to have sex is rape Male suicide is a real issue that deserves attention Men have real problems and men's issues shouldn't be ignored Traditional gender roles are bad and we should get rid of them …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:07 PM
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this. Feminists brag about being intersectional until it comes to issues like this. Everybody deserves respect. Race, gender, etc don't have anything to do with it.
/r/MensRights13/12/25 08:49 PM
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You would support an official government policy of teaching Black students to respect White students then... right?
/r/MensRights13/12/25 08:47 PM
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The sub follows the general trend of MRAs and the fact that the left has become increasingly misandrist. MRAs used to be mostly leftwing. Having Obama as a feminist president with misandrist views started to change that, but most MRAs were still leftists. 2016, with Hillary's feminism and the woman card, changed that and MRAs (and /r/mensrights) were 50/50 then (Warren Farrell endorsed Hillary and /r/mensrights mods were split FWIW). Since then, as leftists have continued becoming misandrist whi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/12/25 08:28 PM
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lol are you trying to imply that /r/mensrights is "far right"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/12/25 06:42 PM
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P.S.: Even MensRights subreddit isn't a safe place from misandrists... lol no the problem is that you're a child with no understanding of how the justice system works. Cut your bullshit about me being a "misandrist" because I've been fighting misandrists since your parents were in middle school. People don't go to prison without a conviction and that doesn't happen without a trial or plea deal. Neither of those have happened yet so calm down. Grow up and learn to understand the world before you …
/r/MensRights12/12/25 11:29 PM
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are you 13? Or just not American? Do you have any idea how the justice system works?
/r/MensRights12/12/25 11:25 PM
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Careful about using the term "manosphere." That is a very broad term that includes egalitarian MRAs who just want equal rights and toxic misogynistic red pillers. The manosphere is several different movements, and it's mostly feminists who try to portray it as a single movement to undermine MRAs. We don't have much in common with some of the other manosphere movements. EDIT: People downvoting this just shows how far this sub has fallen. First, it's just a fact that there is no such thing as "The…
/r/MensRights11/12/25 11:29 PM
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they've admitted it before. When Canada launched an investigation into missing and murdered indigenous women and girls, Canadian MRAs pushed the government to include indigenous men and boys. The feminist government decided to keep it exclusive to women and girls even though most of the victims were male: Statistics Canada data on murdered Indigenous peoples over a 29 year period (1982-2011) show that over 70% of murdered Indigenous Canadians were men and boys.
/r/MensRights11/12/25 11:55 AM
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Divorced men are almost 10x more likely to kill themselves than divorced women Saying that men should talk about their feelings or whatever is missing the point. The underlying issue needs to be addressed but that would require acknowledging that systemic misandry is real, and society isn't ready for that.
/r/MensRights10/12/25 11:59 PM
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I'll agree that a lot of feminists are "good people" but they are still incredibly uninformed and are supporting a bad movement. Sometimes good people support bad ideologies.
/r/MensRights09/12/25 09:25 PM
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In the 2016 Democratic primaries, Hillary repeatedly interrupted Bernie. Bernie finally said "Excuse me, let me finish." Then Hillary supporters accused Bernie of being sexist. In the general, Trump was called sexist for interrupting Hillary, even though Trump had interrupted male opponents a lot too.
/r/MensRights09/12/25 01:56 PM
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99% of feminists give the others a bad name sorry but that's not going to fly here. Keep lurking on this sub, learn more, and learn the history of MRAs and feminism. The feminists who fight against equality are the mainstream feminists. If you're looking for an introduction to this, watch this documentary about MRAs.
/r/MensRights09/12/25 01:28 PM
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being self sacrificing, family oriented, and defending women/children is an "innate" feature of men It is an innate feature. We're biologically programmed to put the lives and safety of women and children above our own. This innate self-sacrificing nature is a significant factor in why it's so hard to convince even other men to support men's equality. I'm not saying it's good or that we shouldn't try to change it, but it's a biological reality that men evolved to be self-sacrificing for the good…
/r/MensRights08/12/25 07:53 PM
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this. OP's asking "Why does an institution which is run by people who hate men ignore men's mental health issues?" 10 years ago, MRAs had convinced the University of York to officially recognize International Men's Day and specifically to acknowledge men's mental health and male suicide. Feminists were outraged and after hundreds of feminists, including professors, pushed back, University of York cancelled it. The decision came after 200 academics, alumni and students at York - most of them wome…
/r/MensRights08/12/25 06:53 PM
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South Korea has been having a bit of an anti-feminist turn. Feminism was big a few years ago but the pendulum is starting to turn as a lot of young men are fed up with being told to check their privilege in a country with forced conscription for men.
/r/MensRights08/12/25 02:59 PM
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Have you ever tried having a conversation with those feminists that was deeper than "do you support equality"? You obviously haven't. Are you even aware that all of these "well respected professors" think that men can't be raped by women? These are the rape statistics that your friends are always citing and that only anti-feminists ever oppose. Maybe this is a thing with younger women If anything it's more common with older feminists. Gen Z feminists at least pretend to support equality while ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:59 AM
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equal custody rights, support for male victims of DV, support for male victims of rape, equality in the justice system, equality in health, equality in the value of our lives, equal gender roles in dating, etc Got any more smug comments, misandrist? Or do you want to try to defend how much you hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:38 AM
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regardless of how unattractive they themselves are seriously, the number of obese women who have inflated egos and think every man is trying to sleep with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:45 PM
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multiple comments are being upvoted for providing details. Your comment is even upvoted. Compare that to a feminist sub which will post lies and ban anybody who corrects them. This sub has its problems and maybe it has gone downhill from what it used to be, but people will still provide details and facts even if they go against the narrative.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 12:23 PM
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The laws are different in Europe. At least in some countries, an experienced climber leading an inexperienced climber can be liable sometimes, even if he's not a professional guide.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 12:21 PM
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In the US you'd probably be right but I know some European countries have different laws regarding experienced people being responsible if they're leading the group.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 12:18 PM
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In case I’m not understanding, how are you defining ‘equality’ here? Feminists say that misandry isn't real and that men's issues don't matter and society should only care about women. Feminist rape statistics intentionally exclude female on male rape. Feminists only talk about violence against women because they think violence against men is okay. Feminists fought against equal custody rights for fathers. Feminists defend traditional gender roles like men having to take all the initiative in da…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:24 AM
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NOW, Feminist Majority Foundation, United Nations, Obama, all Women's Studies professors, /r/TwoXChromosomes, /r/Feminism, /r/AskFeminists, etc. Do you have any examples of feminists who don't oppose equality? Do you even know what feminism is or are you just a teenager? How involved in feminism are you actually? Do you really not know how much feminists fought against equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:06 AM
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Men are net taxpayers, women are net negative taxpayers. Taxes are stealing money from men and giving it to women. And then there's divorce settlements, alimony, child support. Feminists use their female privilege to steal money from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:00 AM
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Women did not "reject equality" yeah they did. MRAs wanted men and women to be treated like equals and get rid of traditional gender roles. 99% of women were against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:47 PM
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LOL it's all about sex XD MRAs wanted to get rid of traditional gender roles and have men and women be treated like equals. Women and especially feminists fought against that. Feminists fighting against equality is the reason why guys like Andrew Tate are popular now. If you supported equality he wouldn't be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:46 PM
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MRAs wanted to get rid of traditional gender roles and have men and women be treated like equals. Women and especially feminists fought against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:46 PM
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They're getting paid for doing their job and then their paycheck is being stolen. Which is not the same as you, since you're the ones stealing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:20 PM
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so you're another woman who opposes equality. Thanks for admitting it, and yes your opposition to gender equality is going to backfire. I know you love your female privilege and you don't want equality, but what's coming is even worse than being treated like an equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:15 PM
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Men are much more likely to be avoidant in relationships compared to women but okay any source for this? Especially a source that adjusts for the fact that women want avoidant men, so avoidant men are more likely to be in a relationship in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:13 PM
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men have the same power. You need men to eat or have electricity or clean water. I guess the biggest difference is that men do those things because men are good people while women are apparently more selfish than men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:03 PM
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And that's based on? sorry, based on your replies I assumed you were a feminist. I did not realize that you are an anti-feminist MRA. Since you are an MRA who opposes feminism, why do you think that women's rejection of equality is not going to backfire?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:56 PM
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Where is this heading? it's heading to men rejecting gender equality (which I support btw, unlike you obviously) and instead increasingly supporting guys like Tate. And it's probably going to get worse than Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:24 PM
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you're either the dumbest woman I've met or a 10/10 troll
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:04 PM
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no, results being that men who follow TRP are more successful in dating than men who listen to either feminists or MRAs. And you should probably be less smug about this because I don't think you're going to like where this is heading. Women should have embraced equality instead of rejecting it and pushing young men into people like Andrew Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:55 PM
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If women only have power because they steal money from men, what does that say?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:32 PM
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Because womens biology they are leading factors on who and what will have access to sex, relationships, and everything else yeah, and most women decide that who and what will have access to sex and relationships are dominant masculine men who take charge in the relationship. IE exactly what The Red Pill tells men and the opposite of what feminists tell men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:32 PM
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Gender roles are already equal, do your part or die alone. lmao what? They were equal or at least close 100 years ago. Then feminism got rid of all the bad stuff about being a woman and still insisted on keeping all the double standards that benefit men. You're the ones saying that you don't want any responsibility and that men should have to do everything. That's why 99% of the people advocating for actual equality for men, while women usually mock men who dare to support equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:30 PM
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If TRP didn't give results, it'd die long ago I'm an MRA, not a TRPer, but I think this is the main reason why MRAs have lost 90% of our support while TRP is more popular than ever. I've even talked to Red Pillers who were ex-MRAs and basically told me that MRAs weren't getting anything accomplished and that's why they left. I still believe in equality and still think we can fight for it, but I really can't blame the men who turn to TRP instead of MRAs because like you said, TRP gets results.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:19 PM
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Dating sucking for men predates the red pill becoming common. And men only started turning to guys like Tate because women rejected equality. 10 years ago MRAs just wanted equality and feminists said no, so now not a lot of men support MRAs anymore and men are turning to TRPers instead. The misogyny you're seeing is a direct response to feminism's misandry and opposition to equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:15 PM
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well some of those stats show that conservative men are the most likely to be married and liberal women are the least likely, so the Blue Pill cope that "if you weren't a rightwing Nazi Trump supporter you wouldn't have problems dating" is proven to be false.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:11 PM
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That's in the OKCupid survey. It showed women sent the vast majority of their messages to men with a mean rating of average or lower lol what? No. First there's the study where women only rank 7% of men as above average (another 12% are average, so 81% are below average). And then there's the study showing that the most attractive men are getting about as many messages as a fat woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:09 PM
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A lot of men don't really take pictures of ourselves or have others take pictures. I'll take pictures of the things I do and places I go, but I'm usually not in those pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:59 PM
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if BP feminists actually did this, they would find a fit guy and get him matches with morbidly obese women and then say "See??? If men just had realistic standards they'd have no problem!" I remember a discussion I had with a female friend about how much easier dating is for women. Her counter was that I had rejected her 300 pound friend so maybe I was too picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:57 PM
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I'm confused by your flair, because your comment has to be sarcastic right? But it's the type of sarcasm that a red pill man would make. Are you just a red pill man who's trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:56 PM
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Does anybody know who supports/opposes this? Like have there been any polls showing what percent of men/women support it, which political parties support/oppose it, etc? Have German feminists weighed in?
/r/MensRights05/12/25 07:25 PM
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according to most women it is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:26 AM
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yeah, you're right, men aren't shallow and judgmental like women are
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:56 PM
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he was socially awkward and nerdy. Socially awkward nerdy women have no problem dating, but women's sexist standards mean that a skinny man who is awkward and nerdy has a hard time. Until he looks like Zyzz, then he doesn't need to approach women because women come to him
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:16 PM
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looksmaxxing, roids Zyzz was a skinny incel who got ripped and became a gigachad with a ton of hot women who wanted him. Sadly he died because of the roids. It's sad that so many men have a choice of being an incel or risking death like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 09:56 PM
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Studies have found that AI Hiring Favors Women Over Equally Qualified Men. Most AI is programmed by pro-feminist companies and trained on feminist material
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 09:17 PM
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this sub supports equality. None of the feminist subreddits do. Go talk to them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 08:55 PM
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feminism is basically just about turning the tables it's not. Feminists don't want to accept the male half of those tables. They want to turn the tables on the half of double standards that benefit men but want to keep the double standards that benefit women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 08:41 PM
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From the official United Nations twitter account. Fortunately a lot of the replies are calling them out on this. The UN has a history of misandry.
/r/MensRights04/12/25 07:45 PM
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this sort of feminism is causing a lot of divisiveness that is leading to men checking out of society, reinforcing male disposibility, and could cause violent backlash when young men feel they have nothing to lose. The UN isn't doing anything about the mass conscription of men in Ukraine and instead is [talking about women's rights in Ukraine](www.ungeneva.org/en/news-media/news/2025/02/103512/ukraine-three-years-war-reverses-progress-women-and-girls). I'm not convinced that the UN is really doi…
/r/MensRights04/12/25 07:42 PM
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Look at how much backlash Trump got for "Quiet piggy." Now look at how little backlash he got for all the times he mocked men for being short or fat or ugly. Look at AOC mocking Stephen Miller for his height while her feminist supporters cry about women being bodyshamed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 05:43 PM
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Fortunately many of the replies are calling the UN out on this.
/r/MensRights04/12/25 12:00 PM
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I like how you ignore the systemic misandry to justify your hatred of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:59 AM
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you're welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:55 AM
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Yes. I don't know if I would say it is completely taken over though, I think most here are still like you and I, but there are definitely too many tradcons and conservatives. Hopefully users like us can continue to contribute and help /r/mensrights go back to what it used to be.
/r/MensRights03/12/25 11:35 PM
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yeah that's not the issue here and if you think it is then maybe you should just go
/r/MensRights03/12/25 11:27 PM
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I read the article. It didn't say any of that. You literally didn't even read the headline. And feminists where? everywhere that matters You do understand feminists is not interchangeable with women, right? the only people who don't understand that are the feminists who claim that opposing misandry is anti-woman and the fact that most women are in prison for petty crimes that are not a danger to the public the number of men in prison for crimes like that is far more than the number of women. Whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:00 PM
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the conviction rate we are starting with a guilty person lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:11 PM
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LMAO systemic misandry is hilarious 😂 are you one of those feminists who pretends feminism is about equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:34 PM
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Black women already have more privilege than White men in the justice system. Equality means you would be treated a lot worse. Stop letting yourself be brainwashed by feminists, and check your female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:29 AM
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You also have the 98 percent of actual rapists who serve zero time in some jurisdictions [citation needed] inb4 bullshit source Show me a source that actually shows that those 98 percent of men are "actual rapists"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:25 AM
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Of course the imprisonment rate would go up the more people view women as humans capable of consciously inflicting harm. How do you feel about feminists at The Guardian saying that it's a crisis for women to go to prison? How about the feminists at the United Nations agreeing with them? What about the feminist campaign from Hillary Clinton and her feminist Women's March? What does it say that any mainstream feminist says that it's bad to hold women responsible because feminists think only men sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:24 AM
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lol, most women ARE already held responsible for what they do not like men are, and you need to check your female privilege if you didn't already know that the justice system doesn't treat women the same as men and the gender bias is even greater than the racial bias. Not sure what the point of your post is probably that ignorant women like you have been so brainwashed by misandrists that you are blind to your female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:21 AM
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So cheating is rape because Remember Gamer Gate? Part of what made Zoe Quinn get targeted is that she had apparently made that argument before, and then she cheated on her boyfriend.
/r/MensRights02/12/25 10:27 PM
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Anywhere except Tumblr and I would assume that's satire. But with Tumblr it's 50/50
/r/MensRights02/12/25 10:17 PM
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If a woman flirts with a man to get a free drink it's theft. If she pretends to like a man to get him to do things for her it's slavery.
/r/MensRights02/12/25 10:16 PM
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/r/mensrights has fallen far from where it used to be. I guarantee a decade ago that comment would have been buried in downvotes,
/r/MensRights01/12/25 10:09 PM
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A lot of men are fit to be good partners. You just think men who make good partners are boring which is why you refuse to date the hundreds of good, safe and compatible men who want to be your long term partner. Because you think it's more exciting to be cheated on or abused. Feminists are the ones who taught women that they should look for excitement and whatever makes you wet instead of going after the good safe compatible men. Feminists are the ones who insult the good safe compatible men. Fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 11:14 PM
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no, women choose a lot of ugly men because those men are bad too. The real problem is that women like you think that bad partner = hot man. You see an ugly bald manlet but if he's a piece of shit who will probably cheat on you, that makes you think he's hot. And you see a tall handsome man but if he's nice and loyal, you think that makes him boring which according to women like you means he's not hot. Stop choosing shitty men, and if you keep choosing the minority of men who are shitty stop blam…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:58 PM
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We can choose between lazy slackers, cheaters or abusers… you forgot the other 90% of men though Good men are rare. lol Most of you are self centred p*icks. The average man is far less selfish than the average woman as can be seen every day on this sub. Women wouldn’t want to opt out if you were genuinely good and empathetic people but it’s not the case Women are literally opting out of men because those men are genuinely good and empathetic people. That's why shitty men still have no problem wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:52 PM
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when they are 21 nobody said that. What he said was that men don't want to date the type of woman who spent her first decade of adulthood rejecting 100% of men who take relationships seriously. Why would any man who cares about relationships want to date a woman who clearly doesn't care about relationships? Ugly girls don't have 1000s of options either Men are not as shallow as women, so women who choose not to be obese do have 1000s or at least 100s of options. And obese women can just choose n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:50 PM
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But women don't face that struggle? Women find those partners every day. Their struggle is that they let feminists brainwash them into rejecting all of the men who make good partners and instead specifically choose the men that obviously are not good, safe or compatible. That's not the same as men's struggle at all. And it has a very easy solution: Just pick one of the literal hundreds of good, safe and compatible men who want to be your long term partner instead of rejecting those men in favor …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:47 PM
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I also think that men are blind to women's struggles and i'm just sick of them lecturing me without any experience and knowledge School, university, the media, politicians, the UN, fucking everybody constantly talks about women's struggles (real or imagined). We know all about them. Meanwhile the average woman knows nothing about men's issues which is why it's still common for feminists to pretend that men are privileged or that misandry isn't real or that only women's issues are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:19 PM
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It's still common for leftists to not know that Rittenhouse was carrying a fire extinguisher when he was attacked, or that the people who attacked him were arsonists trying to prevent him from putting out their fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:35 PM
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to say we shouldn't drag a man's name through the mud off of an accusation inb4 the standard feminist line of "it doesn't matter whether this accusation was false, the important thing is that we started a conversation!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:36 PM
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it's called intersectionality, something that feminists care about just as much as they care about equality
/r/MensRights28/11/25 07:50 PM
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I found the study. I don't have time to read through it now but something interesting is that out of nearly 30 authors who contributed to the study, 0 from the US, 0 from Canada, 0 from Australia, and the only Europeans are 3 from the UK, 1 from Norway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 06:26 PM
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It makes me wonder how research like this moves through peer review because when weak methods are used to support strong conclusions Gender Studies is purely driven by ideology without any regard for facts or rigor. I found the study. I don't have time to read through it now but something interesting is that out of nearly 30 authors who contributed to the study, 0 from the US, 0 from Canada, 0 from Australia, and the only Europeans are 3 from the UK, 1 from Norway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 06:24 PM
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I’ve seen on r/MensRights that it’s starting to resemble a more radical version of feminism. I also agree that feminism is more flawed than the men’s rights movement. Yes, the MRM has things it needs to improve as well, such as not equating all women with feminists and not dismissing women’s issues. I've been an MRA since long before this sub even existed and have been part of this sub for 15 years. You have a point. /r/MensRights didn't used to be this bad btw, it used to be a very egalitarian …
/r/MensRights28/11/25 12:59 AM
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"Feminism is patriarchy in lipstick" -Karen Straughen
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:51 PM
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This. And like OP says Patriarchy began with early biological tendencies—such as different reproductive roles, average physical strengths, and hormone-driven behaviors The fact that gender roles exist in nature is evidence that it's about biology, not oppression. And the fact that females often refuse to mate with males who don't conform to their species' gender roles undermines the feminist claim that men are responsible for "patriarchy." And finally, the fact that currently almost everybody wh…
/r/MensRights27/11/25 12:04 PM
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Is that money and power used to benefit women as a whole or men as a whole?
/r/MensRights27/11/25 12:01 PM
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it's caused by societal problems. Society (including feminists) condition women to believe that a real man is dominant and that women should only be with real dominant men. What are the steps? reject both traditionalism and feminism, and teach women that there's nothing wrong with a man treating women like equals. Tradcons and feminists will be angry about that but if you teach girls that from a young age, they would grow up to be women who reject both tradcons and feminists and instead support …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 09:46 PM
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Also, some studies have found that men actually experience more online abuse. There's this study on UK politicians which found that: In the full set of 2017 politicians, male MPs received around 2 abusive tweets in every 100 responses (σ = .0261), compared with women MPs’ 1.3 (σ = .0139). Click "Download full text" to see the study
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/25 07:23 PM
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During GamerGate, the United Nations invited Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian to speak. IIRC, they said that people saying mean things online is the same as physical violence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/25 06:16 PM
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what? What are you even trying to say? Which men are doing that? Those 0.01% of women are never single anyway because of how many men want the rare woman who will actually accept a man who doesn't conform to gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 12:41 AM
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there's no consistency with individual women either though. Feminists will complain about gender roles and say they want men to treat them like equals, yet those same women will reject any man who isn't more assertive than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:18 PM
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You really need someone to be clear with you that not all women are the same or want the same things? if 99.99% of heterosexual women want men to take more initiative and be more assertive than her, is it really worth talking about the other 0.01%
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:16 PM
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"Men should reject traditional gender roles and treat women like equals" but also "I will never date a man unless he takes more initiative and is more assertive than me"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:15 PM
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it's easy to tell which men are genuine. Women know which men want a relationship, and any woman complaining about being "fucked by men" is a woman who chooses that type of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 12:20 AM
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I specifically looked for and found #2 both times. you found them because it's easy to find them. Any woman who didn't find those guys is a woman who didn't want them. matched energy in my relationships no you didn't I swapped off paying for dinner okay but that took years of anti-feminism for women to finally do that. But you still expected men to take most of the initiative to get those dinners and to get more dates after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 12:10 AM
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Yes, but if we say that men only want sex, men here call us misandrist. because most men don't just want that There are two types of men: Men who want sex, and Men who want sex + relationship. At the start, the vast majority of guys are 1. They want sex. Wrong. You just think that men who want relationships are boring. Over time dating you, they may decide that you are cool enough that they are 2. or they wanted a relationship from the beginning and you think men who want relationships are borin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 11:16 PM
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that women choose to get fucked by men that she knows don't want a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 11:07 PM
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It's obvious what a man wants. Women who reject men who want casual sex have a 99% chance of ending up with a guy who isn't using her for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 10:56 PM
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Oh course they never published a paper on how it works. Feminism is a chimera designed to hide its true mandate- full throttle narcissism for its members. I don't know about publishing a paper but basically 95% of Canada's foreign aid funding was exclusively for women and girls. Just blatant misandry. But remember, feminism is about equality!!!
/r/MensRights23/11/25 07:39 PM
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you're right that most people will not give positive feedback. But even if 1 person does, it's a win.
/r/MensRights22/11/25 11:56 PM
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It's insane how common such policing is on platforms like reddit I'm banned from most subs that reach /r/all. And /r/AskFeminists shadowbanned me even though I never even posted there. They had a thread about how MRAs are misogynists who hate women. I tried to correct them with sources but I had already been shadowbanned even though I never posted there before.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 10:05 PM
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that post coming from the UN is bad but on the bright side almost all of the comments are calling her out. The institutions like the UN are still controlled by feminists, but a lot of regular people are starting to reject feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 09:42 PM
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Defeatist mentalities are not going to help up. nobody Most people won't care. But some will. And who knows, some of those people might become future politicians.
/r/MensRights22/11/25 09:40 PM
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But also, if it ends up getting published. If there’s any kind of oversight, it’s likely it won’t be allowed OP says: So I write for my college newspaper's Culture section, and I can write about anything so long as it is related to student backgrounds, opinions, etc If /u/Try_Again_2495 gets censored, his next step might be to contact the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE), a free speech organization that especially focuses on censorship in education.
/r/MensRights22/11/25 09:38 PM
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Yes. I regret not speaking out more when I was younger. Yes, it will definitely definitely hurt you socially. But in hindsight as an adult I don't think it's that important. I will say... a lot of teens and young adult MRAs aren't always the best advocates simply due to not being as informed or experienced. I would make sure you really really know your shit and make more posts here both looking for facts/sources and testing your opinions before publishing it. I have written about LGBTQIA+ rights…
/r/MensRights22/11/25 09:34 PM
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“I’m not familiar with this so it isn’t true.” this is basically every conversation with a feminist. You mention facts or stats or history and instead of them admitting that they don't know anything about the topic, they just say it's not true. Feminists are basically a cult where they believe they are the most informed about everything while never actually doing any real research.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 01:29 PM
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or some civil-war-torn nation in Africa After the Rwandan Genocide, 70% of Rwanda's population was female because of how many men had died. We never talk about that. You never learn about it in school, it never gets mentioned when the Rwandan genocide is talked about, we're just supposed to ignore it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 01:27 PM
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That's a good response with good sources, thanks for posting. draft feminists during Vietnam were telling men to check their privilege. South Korean feminists complain about male privilege. The United Nations complains about the Ukraine war setting back women's rights and feminists overwhelmingly support Ukraine and are against Ukraine accepting a peace deal. I haven't found anything that proves that women get off crimes easier than men despite there being the same evidence. I'd argue that privi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 01:25 PM
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use DuckDuckGo
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/25 11:25 PM
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ironically UN Women has tweeted about IMD before... to celebrate men who fight for women's rights. The UN feminists treat it as another day to talk about women's rights
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/25 10:31 PM
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/r/mensrights used to get users to do this a lot. While Google always ignored it, we should keep doing it. The people who read the emails are not the same ones who read them 10 years ago, and eventually somebody will get that job who actually cares. Especially if we get more and more people to email.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/25 10:29 PM
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Men started treating women like equals and there is nothing less attractive to women than a man who treats her like an equal. Why do you think traditionalist men are so much more likely to get married than male feminists? Women still want a man who takes charge and is assertive. Most women would rather date a guy from the 50s than a modern male feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 10:32 PM
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You know those people... "Men die, women most affected" Sadly this cult has a lot of influence. Here are a couple examples from the United Nations: this recent tweet from the director of UN Women when a major hurricane hit the Caribbean. And the United Nations complains that men in Ukraine being forced to die is bad because it's setting women's rights back. Yes, the feminists at the UN believe the REAL victims of a male-only draft are the women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/25 03:28 PM
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Feminists will pay lip service to opposing conscription until it happens in a war they agree with. The standard line from feminists was always "well I don't think anybody should be conscripted" but now those same feminists praise Ukraine for forcing their men to die.
/r/MensRights14/11/25 01:03 PM
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of course! And somehow feminists are under the impression that everybody would support unrestricted abortion if men got pregnant
/r/MensRights14/11/25 01:01 PM
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Men are more out and talking to more people. Why do you keep dodging the point to justify your hatred of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 02:30 AM
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Lmao. Y'all want us to give up our female privilege too or what? yes. You want men to give up our male privilege so you can give up your female privilege. But you won't because you know your female privilege is more valuable than my tiny male privilege that you pretend means something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:08 PM
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Why are you defending it? Why do you think women should hide in the dark?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:02 PM
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studies have shown that fathers wish they could work fewer hours and spend more time with their kids. Married gender roles are also because of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 10:01 PM
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Feminists only oppose the draft when they oppose the war. Where are the feminists opposing the Ukraine draft? I see MRAs opposing that, but where are the feminists? You support drafting men in Ukraine because you support their cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 10:00 PM
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women asked for equality in areas where women were being treated worse but refuse to accept equality in areas where women were being treated better. And you call them sexist hypocrites? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 09:59 PM
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Feminists: We need to get rid of traditional gender roles! Men and women should treat each other like equals. Also feminists: I would never date a man who wants to get rid of traditional gender roles and treat me like an equal You: Why is this a problem? I see nothing wrong with tradcon women wanting men to take initiative. But it's obviously a problem when feminists cry about traditional gender roles and then refuse to date any man who rejects traditional gender roles. Feminists need to check t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 09:57 PM
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If a woman isn't confident enough to talk to a man why would he be interested? try giving me an answer that doesn't rely on traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 09:55 PM
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Sorry but I cited sources, you did not. Do your research. Click the links I posted (in this and my other comment). It wasn't just NOW either, I also cited NOMAS. And the vast majority of feminists say MRAs are misogynists because we opposed that. There's a male feminist sub who defended NOW's position even after NOW deleted their old posts. The feminists who fought against gender-based assumptions in custody decisions are feminists like Karen DeCrow and Warren Farrell, who were kicked out of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 09:40 PM
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Gender equality in family law. they fought against that Feminist organizations have pushed for laws and reforms that remove automatic assumptions about mothers being primary caregivers, advocating for shared custody or joint parenting where appropriate WHAT THE FUCK!!! Feminists not only fought against this but this is LITERALLY the biggest reason why feminists hate MRAs. You really need to learn your history because this is the worst possible example you could use. Even worse than domestic viol…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 09:14 PM
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but that’s usually because a lot of MRA spaces don’t just talk about men’s issues, they bash women not true at all. You're either a misandrist or you fell for misandrist propaganda. But saying most women or feminists in general fight against men’s equality is just not true Copy from another comment: If anybody really wants to learn the history of MRAs and how much feminism has fought against equality for men, Uneasy Males is a great book available free here that covers the history of MRAs up unt…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:44 PM
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Imagine this same discussion but about Black kids doing worse in schools, and you saying "So what I don't have empathy for Black kids they should just do better". The only difference is most teachers are feminists but not White supremacists so it's a lot more realistic for there to be a feminist bias in schools than a White supremacist bias. and then "most prisoners are Black so that's why they behave bad"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:03 PM
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and approved by the mainstream this. Feminists opposed any custody rights for fathers until MRAs successfully changed public attitudes about it. Now feminists are finally relenting on that issue, but only because the mainstream now approves of fathers being more involved with their children's lives. Back when most people were okay with mothers getting sole custody, feminists lead the fight against MRAs on that issue. Circumcision is another one. American feminists thought male genital mutilation…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 04:40 PM
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getting real White supremacist vibes here lol. And there is a clear feminist bias in schools, and the way schools are set up favors girls. The single motherhood epidemic that feminism created also hurts boys more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 04:34 PM
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You care about individual men. You listen and care about their individual problems. But the widespread feminist opposition to MRAs talking about DV, suicide, discrimination in the justice system, father's rights, etc proved that feminists (and most women) not only don't care about men's issues but they actively fight against progress on men's equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 04:32 PM
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hypocritical this. Very, very few women are willing to take as much initiative as they expect men to take and most will reject a man if he's not more assertive than her. Even women who think they take initiative are still taking less than they expect from men. It's even worse that most feminists are like this too. So they expect men to reject traditional gender roles and blame it on the patriarchy, yet they also refuse to date any man who doesn't conform to traditional gender roles. Most men mee…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 11:56 AM
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gynocentric and misandric policies have been put in place by both men and women. this. "Women" are not the problem. Feminists are. There are women who support equality and there are male feminists. We all know which of those we agree with and which ones are against us. although other parts of the "manosphere" do blame women a lot, but that's why I stick to MRAs.
/r/MensRights06/11/25 11:29 PM
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my knowledge about feminism look no offense but you don't have any knowledge about feminism long experience you have no experience Gonna just copy paste my usual response: If anybody really wants to learn the history of MRAs and how much feminism has fought against equality for men, Uneasy Males is a great book available free here that covers the history of MRAs up until 2000. And look at the documentary about MRAs that was made by a feminist. Cassie Jaye was a feminist who was trying to make an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:35 AM
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I have personally never seen a woman mock a man opposing feminism (which is an anti-equality movement) then you need to pay more attention
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:32 AM
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Women have a much greater in-group bias so the elected leaders care more about women's issues than men's issues. You can see for yourself which issues get attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:57 PM
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How can you confuse women mocking egalitarian men with men who hate themselves? because they are clearly different
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:55 PM
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I suggest you do some actual research on this. Including the specific examples I gave.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:54 PM
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feminists and women in general are the leaders in all social issues, including helping men and breaking gender roles. Women and especially feminists have been the leaders of fighting against MRAs (who are the movement actually supporting gender equality)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:53 PM
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this "feminist shithole" has been one of the strongest anti-feminist communities for 15 years. We just also oppose misogynists like you. Gender equality for both men and women is what this sub stands for.
/r/MensRights03/11/25 10:15 PM
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Both are terrible things, both feminism and Tate like ideas are terrible. You're right and a decade ago your comment would be heavily upvoted. Your comment being controversial is just a sign of how far /r/mensrights has fallen. Half the people here aren't even MRAs now. But I'm glad people like you are still here and I hope you keep promoting actual equality here. We need more people like you here.
/r/MensRights03/11/25 10:07 PM
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The UN also recently had this statement about the hurricane "As Hurricane Melissa made landfall in the Caribbean, our thoughts are with women & girls affected."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 06:54 PM
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I don't think she can keep the identity politics out. Even if she tries, she could probably be baited into it pretty easily. And her supporters definitely won't keep it out, which will drive people away.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 06:49 PM
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Men are rewarded for upholding the patriarchy, and punished for going against it By women. Including feminists. Just look at how feminists reacted to MRAs pushing for gender equality. Look at how few women will date a man unless he's more assertive than her and takes the lead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 06:33 PM
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And why do feminists fight so hard to maintain all of the things about "the patriarchy" that they claim hurt men?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 06:24 PM
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and the worst part is that they pretend this is somehow the patriarchy oppressing women. I believe there's a study which shows that most working fathers wish they could work fewer hours and spend more time with the kids. Working fewer hours and spending more time with the kids is privilege, not oppression, and women are the ones imposing these gender roles on men more than the other way around.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 06:21 PM
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the Men's Rights Movement was started by those Second Wave feminists. 50/50 custody was the biggest reason they were kicked out of feminism. Karen DeCrow, who was once President of NOW, gave an interview in the 80s where she talks about how her support for equal custody is the reason she wasn't welcome at NOW anymore. So a lot of early Second Wave feminists supported equal custody, but by the 80s those feminists weren't welcome anymore which is what lead to MRAs becoming anti-feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 06:20 PM
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On or about December 18, 2021, Defendant Martinez emailed Christmas gifts to all team members. The gift was an annual membership to Step-Up, a company that supports only women in leadership. that's so blatant that this alone should be enough to win the case
/r/MensRights02/11/25 11:24 AM
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men’s rights will get more successful and normalized sadly, idk, young men are moving away from supporting equality and more and more heading down the Tate path. I think feminism's misandry convinced a lot of men that equality isn't realistic so now MRAs are a fraction of what we were a decade ago while the red pill part of the manosphere keeps growing. I don't think the Tate mindset is healthy for men, but unfortunately feminism drove men to believe that the equality MRAs advocate for is imposs…
/r/MensRights01/11/25 08:06 PM
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This is a great post, thank you. It's sad it only has 10 upvotes. This is the problem with this sub (and all of reddit). Ragebait about a random internet feminist gets hundreds of upvotes but a thread about serious academic feminists barely gets noticed. We need more posts like this because this is the actual problem with feminism, not some random crazy on the internet saying she hates men. We draw on Messner’s (1997) model of men’s movements to reflect on the limitations of the Intactivist move…
/r/MensRights31/10/25 11:13 PM
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Males created patriarchy Feminists keep telling me that "patriarchy" means any sexist double standards and gender roles in which case I need a citation for your comment since modern women are 10x more likely to support gender roles than men. your systemicaly priviledged source?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:34 AM
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'2. Feminists being misandrists who hate men and think men don't deserve human rights is actual misogynistic yeah I don't need to read the rest of your comment to know you're a piece of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:31 AM
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I am a misandrist who believes that men's issues don't matter and should never be addressed ever and this is patriarchy's fault ok
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:28 AM
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Feminists fight against those groups for men. You probably aren't old enough to remember Ryerson feminists fighting against MRAs trying to make a men's group. Or when feminists at York University in the UK shut down an Internation Men's Day even that was focusing on male suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:26 AM
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The patriarchy was created by men the fact that modern women are much more likely to enforce "patriarchy" than men makes me doubt this. The patriarchy is hurting both men and women. then maybe women should join men in opposing it The patriarchy needs dismantling tell that to the feminists who claim it's misogynistic to oppose what they call "the patriarchy"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:19 AM
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But why do you fight so hard against men's rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:14 AM
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women are far happier to call out non-misandrist women than men are to call out non-misandrist men this isn't the win you think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:13 AM
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Why should men have equal child custody? All of the work to bring that child into existence fell on the woman. She is the one who had to go through the pregnancy and horrible child birth. All he did was shoot his shot in a moment of pleasure. I appreciate the feminists who are honest about this. 99% of feminists agree with you but 98% of them lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:12 AM
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And I don't hate the opposite gender. I just save my sympathy for the ones who hate themselves for being men lol You don't get to proclaim me as your enemy and then wonder why I don't care about you feminists are incapable of self-reflection
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:07 AM
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there are countless examples of MRAs not being misogynists and being called one. Warren Farrell lead marches with Gloria Steinem for women's rights. He was such an ally to feminists that NOW put him on their board even though the organization wouldn't even let men join. This is the speech he gave at U Toronto in 2012 and this is how feminists reacted. Tell me where the misogyny is in his speech. of a man who was not misogynistic it's not just men. Erin Pizzey founded the first battered women's s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:02 AM
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Women are the majority of voters, in a democracy, with a far greater in-group bias. Women have far more institutional power than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:40 AM
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though when look it at r/mensrights, for example, Ive not seen much woman-hating at all I've been an MRA since long before /r/mensrights exists. The sub did not used to have any misogyny. The rare misogyny was always downvoted. That said, as an MRA since the 90s, it's disappointing that there is, now, some misogyny being upvoted in that place. I still think the sub has a lot of value but I encourage other MRAs to be vigilant and speak out against (and downvote) the misogyny that was never there …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:34 AM
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Man: "All women's issues are to some degree men's issues and all men's issues are to some degree women's issues because when either sex wins unilaterally both sexes lose." (literally an exact Warren Farrel quote) Every feminist: "OMG you're a rapist!!!" you're the problem. You're the feminist we're talking about when we say feminists hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:31 AM
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We need you to at least stop fighting against us
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:29 AM
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feminists achieving their goals would help men also Mainstream feminist goals include: Preventing divorced fathers from being treated equal to mothers Preventing male victims of DV from having support Denying that a woman forcing a man to have sex is "rape" Defending male disposability Defending double standards in the justice system Defending women imposing gender roles on men and many more. Can you explain how these goals help men? Or did you just not bother to research feminism before you def…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:29 AM
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Or at least "feminism is for men too" to mean "feminism will not do everything it can to fight against equality for men"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:26 AM
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Idk but maybe you could not actively oppose anybody (male or female) who gives a fuck about men? Can you answer me why you just hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:25 AM
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Not only do men do that but feminists actively oppose men who do that. And that includes male feminists, most likely including /u/anewleaf1234 himself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:24 AM
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ummmm actually male victims of rape and abuse consented to feminist women saying that men can't be raped or abused next time just say "I hate myself for being a man"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:23 AM
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hold a majority of positions of power The US is a democracy and most voters are members of the privileged sex. Also men have an outgroup bias while women have an ingroup bias. Especially younger men who are so desperate for female approval that they'll agree with anything women say. And more specifically: why do you expect women to help you instead of helping yourselves? No bootstraps to pull up? Men helped women. You repay the favor by mocking us and fighting against any man who supports equali…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:15 AM
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Pro choice means pro choice for women. Any kid born out of wedlock in a pro choice jurisdiction is a woman's choice. The man is often blamed. DV that's caused by women is often blamed on men. Remember Ray Rice? His wife kept hitting him in the face until he finally retaliated. Feminists blamed him and said his wife was a blameless victim. Same with Chris Brown. men who rape The Columbia mattress girl had consensual sex with a man then texted him "fuck me in the butt" before having sex with him a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:06 AM
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If the hyperbole of "all men" is the problem, then surely you must have noticed how often men use "all women" when saying women are gold-diggers, whores, bad drivers, irrational, emotional, stupid, and so much more The number of men who think it's okay to abuse women is a lot less than the number of women who think it's okay to be gold-diggers. And not many men want to date gold-diggers. If the average man had a choice between 100 women who were not gold-diggers or 1 gold-digger, not many men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:04 AM
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HAES types think the gym is toxic masculinity and misogynistic. And most Blue pillers are fat and lazy. There's this notorious picture comparing an /r/incel meetup vs /r/inceltears
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 10:02 PM
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She constantly played the woman card (and then called Trump a misogynist for calling her out on it) Hillary implied that Bernie was a misogynist for disagreeing with her on gun control Hillary supporters accused Bernie of "mansplaining" There were a lot of other examples too.
/r/MensRights25/10/25 10:00 PM
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While that's true, even those conservatives at least acknowledge the sacrifice. Conservatives who support Ukraine drafting men will at least acknowledge that the women are privileged for not being drafted. Whereas feminists act like the men are privileged for being forced to die.
/r/MensRights24/10/25 09:32 PM
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Bernie Sanders was smart enough to stick to discussing the economy, that's why the establishment rigged the primaries and installed Hilary as the nominee. I actually liked him and was sad to see how the DNC and Hillary weaponized feminism against him.
/r/MensRights24/10/25 09:29 PM
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a surrogate is like $100,000, grow up and realize how the real world works because if you get a surrogate most women will expect the man to pay for that $100k+. And expecting your wife to get pregnant is not at all the same as her expecting you to ask her out and take all of the initiative. Women are biologically just as capable of doing that as men, they just don't because almost all women are sexist and love traditional gender roles while more men prefer gender equality. Which is why even wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:56 AM
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men expect women to get pregnant and give birth and breastfeed I know I'm skirting reddit rules by acknowledging biology but... that's biology, not gender roles. The other shit you mentioned are just bullshit, any man who isn't involved in those is a man who just doesn't care about holidays and birthdays and would rather they not happen at all, so the woman isn't helping him at all. Meanwhile women think men have to ask them out and be assertive and take initiative. Those are actual gender roles…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:18 PM
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Somebody else downvoted you and they shouldn't have, as an old MRA one thing I have a problem with on this sub is downvoting people for asking legitimate questions. But here is a graphic with sources cited
/r/MensRights23/10/25 10:04 PM
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Men do not impose 1/10 of the gender roles on women that women impose on men. But thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 09:52 PM
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there is a lot of overlap between bluepill and HAES
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 09:51 PM
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It is not difficult for me to imagine a conservative person to be against the idea of allowing gay men to raise children 20 years ago yeah, but now? You can find some conservatives with those views but I doubt most conservatives have any problem with it today.
/r/MensRights23/10/25 09:21 PM
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Conservatives are not our friends but they also are not our enemies. Conservatives are neutral on men. Leftists are expressly anti-male. I would rather side with people who are neutral on men's rights than people who are actively fighting against men's rights, and many conservatives are at least open to discussions on men's rights.
/r/MensRights23/10/25 09:20 PM
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It's funny because MRAs were originally leftwing feminists and MRAs were historically leftist. MRAs only became more conservative in recent years when the left became all about misandry and claimed that supporting gender equality is "conservative."
/r/MensRights23/10/25 09:18 PM
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One of the earliest issues the MRM prioritized was equal custody rights and general discrimination in the family court system. Gender roles in dating/marriage was another issue. Gay men aren't really affected by those issues. Double standards in DV/rape also don't affect gays as much. In addition, feminism was an early ally of gay rights so they feel allegiance to them. Nevermind that MRAs were also feminists when the MRM started. On a related note, Justin Trottier, the founder of the Canadian A…
/r/MensRights23/10/25 09:16 PM
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I'm a few days late to this thread but I just want to emphasize how important she is. She is absolutely a very mainstream and influential feminist, despite some feminists trying to gaslight about her. She's so influential that when Biden was a Senator he sent her a letter thanking her for her help on VAWA
/r/MensRights23/10/25 03:59 PM
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You're right, and as somebody who came here in 2009, it didn't used to be this way. This sub used to align with Warren Farrell. Now, I still think most of the sub is egalitarian, but there are definitely actual misogynists here who would have been downvoted a decade ago. But I hope you stick around, we need good MRAs to keep fighting.
/r/MensRights22/10/25 10:52 PM
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I don't think so. You're right that ChatGPT is anti-MRA (ask it about "misandry" and then ask it about "misogyny" or ask it about "why do women yell at men" and do the gender reversed, or any number of double standards). But, this specific OP doesn't really seem like AI.
/r/MensRights22/10/25 10:47 PM
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it sucks your post is downvoted and I hope you stick around such as higher rates of sexual assault, rape, and domestic violence The stats are not what most people think they are. In fact even a lot of young MRAs aren't aware of the stats here. The higher rates of rape are due to feminists in charge of rape studies refusing to include rapes where the woman forced a man to have sex. Feminists don't consider that rape. As for DV: The most comprehensive review of the scholarly domestic violence rese…
/r/MensRights22/10/25 10:37 PM
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as if any of them have ever set foot in a gym
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:16 PM
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because unmarried women are statistically happier than married women This is actually a myth spread by feminists. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/high-octane-women/201109/meet-the-least-happy-people-in-america And the unhappiest profile?: Female 42 years old Unmarried (and no children) Household income under $100,000 In a professional position (doctor, lawyer, etc.)
/r/MensRights22/10/25 11:17 AM
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Yes, it is sad that feminists fought against the egalitarian MRAs even after MRAs fought for women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 01:13 AM
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whatever makes you feel better about your obesity
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:36 AM
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Maybe it's because men don't want to fight for a better situation for men MRAs did exactly that but feminists have so much more power and fought to defeat MRAs who just wanted equality (and even fought for women's rights)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:35 AM
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The time to be misandrist was 100 years ago or so even then, as you say it was equally hard for everyone. Women had as many female privileges as men had male privileges. And then feminism got rid of male privilege while fighting against MRAs (who had helped feminists fight for their rights) so they could keep female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:31 AM
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This is what stunted my early dating/sex life. I thought women hated gender roles and wanted equality. Little did I know that feminists lied about that and women actually still expected men to take all of the initiative and be the dominant assertive man. And back then, even feminists wanted men to pay for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:29 AM
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MRAs had many events. Misandrists protested them, even pulling fire alarms to shut them down. BTW, MRAs helped lead women's rights marches.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:25 AM
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But no woman actually most women supported this. Even today most women are against gender equality. I'm guessing you're one of those women, you sound like a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:24 AM
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So... men did it? and women supported and encouraged it. And today more women than men support the traditional double standards that harm men and benefit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:23 AM
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This!!! Sub-Saharan Africa has higher birthrates because everybody is rich there
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:21 AM
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They had to go to wars before, they had to work longer hours with even less pay and worse living conditions Still do, check your female privilege. Men work an average of like 8 hours more than women per week (this is the actual reason for the wage gap). Men who used to live in houses are now living in apartments. As for war, go talk to men in Ukraine or Russia. And even in other countries like Finland and South Korea male conscription is required while feminists in those countries tell men to ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:20 AM
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6'0 Average height for a man in America is 5'9" and there are plenty of women who will reject a man for being below that. Definitely a lot more than the number of men who would reject a woman for having below average breasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:09 AM
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it's objectively true. Why do you think obesity was so rare in the past? Did our genetics change?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:08 AM
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Nobody who eats clean is fat though. Unless they only recently started eating clean, in which case they will stop being fat if they keep it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:36 PM
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There are no complicated bits. Obesity is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:26 PM
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and not on the person as a whole Somebody who chooses to be unhealthy is judging them on the person as a whole. It's not shallow to reject a woman because she's a smoker.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:26 PM
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Tinder recently added a height filter for premium users. Bumble (the preferred app for feminists) has always had a height filter. Hinge has a height filter. Most websites like Match and OKC have height filters. If a woman wants a tall man she sounds shallow anyway. that's the point: Women are more shallow than men because it's very common for women to reject a man just because of his height.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:19 PM
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or no one could be fat while losing weight. Okay then change it to "100% of fat people eat too many calories or used to eat too many calories"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:16 PM
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Also lots of fat people do not binge junk food all day, but I’m sure you know that. But 100% of fat people eat too many calories, but I'm sure you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:10 PM
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it's literally impossible to not lose weight if you burn more calories than you consume.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:09 PM
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then don't eat excess sugar? There is sugar in ketchup so don't eat ketchup. Like holy shit how fat are you that you think fucking ketchup is a necessity? Almost everything in the US has excess sugar My advice: Go to a fitness forum and ask for advice because you clearly have no idea how to eat. Vegetables do not have excess sugar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:08 PM
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But yes, I totally chose to have an unhealthy diet you did
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:06 PM
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how ignorant men are on here your fake victim complex doesn't mean men are ignorant it means you are. Literally just don't be fat and most men will find you attractive. Nobody gives a shit about your nails and most men are not shallow enough to judge women on their breast size to the extent that women judge men on our height. Dating apps have a height filter but not a breast size filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:06 PM
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Junk food is not cheap so stop making excuses for the fact that you choose to be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 05:20 AM
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It is a choice. How many obese people were there 200 years ago? much of our food then eat other food. There's plenty of healthy food.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:46 AM
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Rejecting somebody because they smoke or are a drug addict is not shallow. Rejecting them because they won't stop eating junkfood is also not shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:44 AM
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guys are just as shallow too. no they aren't A man’s attraction to women is binary based on beauty. It’s either hot or not, there’s no in between but men's beauty standards aren't as shallow as women's. The most important thing men care about for a woman's looks is not being fat. Obesity is a choice, so it's not anymore shallow than rejecting somebody for being a smoker. As long as a woman isn't choosing to be fat, most men will find her attractive enough. Compare that to how much women judge me…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:14 AM
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This is a good post except I don't know why you mentioned race. Stats show that White women are treated better than Black women who are treated better than White men who are treated better than Black men. Stick to the facts and statistics.
/r/MensRights18/10/25 08:37 PM
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maliciously try and get the man into trouble I remember an old post on TrollX where OP bragged about joining with other women to get a male coworker fired because he was socially awkward and didn't talk to anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 02:21 AM
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The only reason men earn more is because men work more. And the only reason men work more is because women demand that men work more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:11 AM
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that's a lot of words to say "I believe that men should do more work to support their family than women"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:53 AM
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How many divorces involve the woman doing chores for her ex-husband? Less than 10%? And what about child support including divorces where the man wanted more visitation but couldn't get it because feminists like you prevent divorced fathers from seeing his own kids? And what about the splitting of assets where the woman steals the man's assets that he worked for?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:51 AM
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It’s that your partner doing something that actively makes your life worse (not doing their part of household chores) builds resentment and yet you have no problem with a woman spending her husband's money (and even forcing him to pay her after divorce which you blue pilled women love)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:12 AM
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How do you feel about alimony? Could you imagine if men demanded sex from their ex-wives the way that you feminists think women should demand money from their ex-husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:09 AM
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This. Men are doing more actual work and earning more. Feminists aren't happy with it because even though men are objectively doing more than women, they want men to do more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:07 AM
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men are still stuck in traditional values lol most women still want a man to ask her out and make the first move and earn more money. All feminist women support traditional values when it benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:06 AM
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but they don't want to share the burden of actually supporting the family. Most women expect a man to earn more than she does yet want him to do equal chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:04 AM
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after the marriage, these women happily accept alimony and a divorce settlement and yet what effort does she have to put in after the marriage? The man was always putting in more effort which is why feminists expect him to continue putting in effort after divorce. She divorced him because he was only putting in 20% more effort instead of 50% more effort. And now that she's divorced she (and literally all feminists) still think that he should put more effort in and give her free money just becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:53 PM
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pregnancy what are the risks for pregnancy in pro-choice jurisdictions? A woman who gets drunk and has unprotected sex has an abortion. A man who is literally raped by a woman has to pay child support to his rapist for 18 years (thanks to feminist child support laws because feminists don't care about male rape victims). Who actually has the greater risk? Check your female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:47 PM
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Just because you see an article praising casual sex and 5 women agreeing in that article, doesn’t mean that thousands of other women are doing what the article says. casual sex wasn't a thing until feminists made it a thing. How many men in the 50s were having one night stands?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:45 PM
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working harder and making more sacrifices works in their favour no statistically, men really don’t mind when a dynamic shifts in a way that makes them do more work and make more sacrifices also no. Women are the reason these gender roles exist which is why every time it comes up you have men saying women should do more work and feminists making excuses for rejecting men based on income.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:44 PM
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Because the financial differences aren't because the woman just doesn't want to pay. 99% of the time they are Blue Pill Man lol, yeah flair checks out you live in a fantasy world where men are refusing to let women pay instead of women taking advantage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:43 PM
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and what about how many of these relationships have the man as the primary breadwinner? She's okay taking his money but not okay with contributing anything in exchange?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:41 PM
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and he just did that out of nowhere with nothing preceding it? you're a misandrist because you ignore women abusing men because you think it's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:03 AM
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I think of Ray Rice in the elevator abusing his wife you mean his wife that was abusing him first? And even after seeing the video of her hitting him misandrists like you you still think she's an innocent victim? These videos just show how common it is for misandrists to side with women who abuse men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:46 AM
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the century-long gender equality movement Which movement would that be? Surely you do not think we are stupid enough to believe that feminism is anything like a "gender equality movement"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:15 AM
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The term "friend zone" used to mean more than just rejecting a friend. It used to be more about the fact that many (not all) women will lose interest in a man who she initially found attractive if he becomes her friend and gets to know her first. So if he asked her out early when they just met she would have said yes, but after they become friends she rejects him because she wants a manlier man who would have been more bold and assertive, and who doesn't care about getting to know a woman first.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 09:10 PM
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it's more than that. Ana Kasparian took the leftist side on Kyle Rittenhouse and then after the trial she admitted she was wrong. She's been gradually turning against wokeness and I think she realizes that the wokeleft is wrong.
/r/MensRights10/10/25 10:47 PM
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people on both sides call their opponents crazy and stupid regardless of gender. That's not sexist no matter how much feminists pretend it is. But Republicans do not mock female Democrats for having small boobs the way AOC mocked a male Republican for being short.
/r/MensRights10/10/25 10:18 PM
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Definitely didn't 😂
/r/MensRights09/10/25 11:32 PM
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LOL I was just pretending to be a misandrist!!!
/r/MensRights09/10/25 11:31 PM
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I'm 5'4" and my self-esteem is so low that I will simp for a woman who mocks short men like me this sub exists to help men like you. Lurk more and hopefully learn to stand up for yourself.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 11:30 PM
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after the entire other side has been shitting on women for about 10 years now is a waste of time lol what? AOC doesn't hate men she clearly does and this isn't the first time she's shown it.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 11:28 PM
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Okay. I did a quick google search. I cannot find any examples of AOC mocking a female Republican for having small boobs. You obviously have a lot of examples so can you provide them?
/r/MensRights09/10/25 11:27 PM
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Cool cool cool, so you personally believe that men who are short or even just average height deserve to be mocked and bullied because they aren't real men according to you. Why are you on this sub again if you hate most men just for their height?
/r/MensRights09/10/25 11:20 PM
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Which Republican Congressman has mocked AOC for her teeth? Because that's the closest equivalent here although even that isn't gender-based like height-shaming men is. And when has AOC ever mocked a female politician for her looks especially genetic things like height? Has she ever mocked a female Republican for having small boobs?
/r/MensRights09/10/25 11:16 PM
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hippies communists stupid lol imagine thinking those are the same as mocking short males elderly white those are wrong although I really doubt that you actually care about anti-white racism. And AOC definitely doesn't care and she herself is an anti-white racist.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 11:15 PM
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can you show me an upvoted post on this subreddit mocking a female politician for having small boobs? Or maybe you're just strawmanning.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 11:13 PM
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this. I'm not a big Trump fan but the left hating men is what turned me right. This isn't the first time she's had double standards like this either.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 11:12 PM
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Trump also criticizes male politicians though (Little Marco, Mini Mike) so there's no sexism when he does it. AOC would never mock a female politician for having small boobs. In fact AOC even said that she shouldn't be called AOC because she's a woman; it's okay for male politicians to be called by first names but female politicians should be referred to by official titles.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 11:06 PM
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Could you imagine how she would respond if a male Congressman mocked a female politician for having small boobs? She and the left would get a lot more support if they could stay away from toxic feminist identity politics. This isn't the first time she's made misandrist comments and supported misandrist double standards. A lot of people like her economic views but her clear hatred of men turns people away.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 11:01 PM
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This. The MRM used to be a mostly leftwing movement, as recently as 2008 you had most American MRAs voting Obama. But the left built their entire identity around feminism and now most men, and women who don't hate men, are turning right. The right doesn't even really do much for men, but the right doing nothing is better than the left actively trying to fuck us over.
/r/MensRights08/10/25 11:16 PM
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In the western world, in the past 20 years at least, can you think of a more sexist legally enforced double standard? well if you're asking, there's Ukraine/Russia with the draft and beyond that several other countries that have mandatory military service for men even in peacetime. But outside of conscription you're right I can't think of anything more sexist. How close is this to being real? Last I heard it was just a proposal, is it still just something some politicians are proposing or is it …
/r/MensRights08/10/25 11:07 PM
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Women aren't rejecting men for body language. yes they are. You reject men because the way he sits doesn't project confidence. Because his tone of voice isn't confident enough. Nothing to do with "trauma dumping" you're a shallow judgmental misandrist who thinks that real men shouldn't have feelings, and that's why you reject them. Punching holes in walls isn't vulnerable. Trauma dumping on a first date isn't vulnerable none of that has anything to do with what anybody is talking about. That's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:30 AM
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your wife is an exception Having insecurities is normal. and most women expect men to hide those normal insecurities. Most women aren't rejecting men who have "constant insecurity" they're rejecting men for subtle things like body language. Women will reject a man because they think the way he is sitting is insecure. I'm happy you found a rare exception but most women are a lot more judgmental than your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 12:23 AM
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constant insecurity women's standards of insecurity are way beyond "constant insecurity" though. Modern women dehumanize men and hold them to standards of insecurity that no woman could meet. Normal healthy humans still have some degree of insecurity, that's being human. And women reject it in men because feminism taught women to stop seeing men as human. Women reject men who have half the insecurity she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 12:07 AM
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no, I did not read your comment then let me educate you Straus, M. A., Kaufman Kantor, G., & Moore, D. W. (1994, August). Change in cultural norms approving marital violence from 1968 to 1994. Paper presented at the American Sociological Association, Los Angeles, CA. (Compared surveys conducted in 1968 <n=1,176>, 1985 <n=6,002>, 1992 <n=1,970>, and 1994 <n=524>, with regard to the approval of facial slapping by a spouse. Approval of slapping by husbands decreased from 21% in 1968 to 13% in 1985,…
/r/MensRights05/10/25 11:33 PM
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they are still happily married. This sub for obvious reasons attracts doomers, but happy marriages do exist.
/r/MensRights05/10/25 10:34 PM
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you to act like domestic violence was not worse during a time did you even read my comment? Domestic violence against women was worse back then than it is today, but it was still overwhelmingly viewed negatively and was not at all the norm like feminists claim. Domestic violence against men has not changed because feminists have fought against helping male victims. a reoccurring statement was about the traditional values of the time, how the women believed the man should have authority over the …
/r/MensRights05/10/25 10:03 PM
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cartoons did you even read my post? Check the first source I posted. Comics showed far more female-on-male DV than male-on-female. And the other sources show that most people did not view either as acceptable and viewed both as equally unacceptable, whereas in modern feminist society female-on-male is seen as more acceptable than male-on-female. Feminists blame patriarchy for this but this divide did not exist in the past, it only developed after feminism convinced people that violence against w…
/r/MensRights05/10/25 08:43 PM
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I'm sorry you had shitty parents but my mom was not a manipulative controlling woman with a god complex. So I can observe my own parents' marriage to see that you're wrong.
/r/MensRights04/10/25 02:27 PM
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There are many different reasons. Rejection is a common one, EG the Columbia Mattress Girl was angry that the guy she hooked up with dated another woman instead of her. Other reasons are attention, money (the woman who accused Brian Banks made a lot of money by suing the school), revenge, regret, to cover up cheating (by claiming the man she cheated with raped her), etc. There's no limit to the reasons. I remember a story of a woman making up a story about being raped because she needed an excus…
/r/MensRights04/10/25 02:19 PM
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Do you have a link to the source?
/r/MensRights29/09/25 10:49 AM
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what? The sexual revolution was feminism's idea. Hookup culture has increased as dating shifted more in women's favor. Men aren't driving this, women are. When dating was more equal and balanced, hookups were frowned upon and men and women preferred relationships. Once women had all of the power, that's when casual sex became the standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 11:27 PM
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Create a dating visa. Like a marriage/fiancee visa but just for dating. And make it easy and quick to obtain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 11:51 AM
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A lot of ugly assholes also get women just because those women are attracted to his red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:25 PM
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Every man who cheats on a woman has at least two women who want him. And usually both women know what kind of guy he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:24 PM
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I've never dated a woman who wasn't suggesting ideas for dates by Date #3 or 4. I've never dated a woman who wasn't suggesting ideas for dates after I passed her sexist shittest lmao imagine thinking this is anything other than proving that I'm right. Didn't bother to read the rest of your comment since you already admitted I'm right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:33 AM
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And feminists will still say that false accusations don't cause any harm
/r/MensRights17/09/25 12:44 AM
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In defense of the British government, they are the only country that actually does sometimes not only prosecute but also give serious sentences to women who falsely accuse men. Obviously not in this case, but Britain at least has a better track record of prosecuting false accusations than the US or any country really. There have been multiple instances of women getting >1 year in prison for false accusations in Britain, I can't think of any other country that does that. It should definitely be h…
/r/MensRights17/09/25 12:43 AM
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and then I end up spending my whole life being sexualized my men, being approached by men who only want to have sex with me, isn't it reasonable to develop an aggressive hatred towards men? You also spend your life being approached by men who want more than sex. And it is better for society as a whole including women when women are taught to choose those men instead of chasing after players and becoming a single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:17 AM
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because men are not as shallow and judgmental as women are, so a woman who asks out a man of equal attractiveness is unlikely to get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:06 AM
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Planning dates is an advantage, not a disadvantage This is such an obviously stupid take. If that were remotely true then women would be planning the dates. Women who want to do fun things on dates often need to sit through a million lousy dinner dates because if they actually like the guy, they don't want to be seen as rejecting him by saying "your idea sucks, bro, I wanna go out with you, but can we at least do something fun instead of staring at each other while we eat, separated by a table, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:01 AM
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lol no, maybe you're swampwater but the vast majority of men would meet his own standards. No woman meets her standards though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 11:56 PM
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feminists refusing to check their privilege again as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 11:55 PM
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Most women starve and maintain their appearance, well into their 40s more bullshit excuses from women to avoid acknowledging your privilege. Bodyfat obesity rates for women are higher than for men in the US. So try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 11:55 PM
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22 years is not a light sentence. I also don't see anything about the judge giving the sentence as opposed to the jury. Judges are allowed to reduce a jury sentence but they can't increase it, so if the jury gave her 22 years, then the judge can only reduce it he can't give her anything more than that.
/r/MensRights15/09/25 09:16 PM
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He was an alleged rapist. He deserved due process. how this fits this sub how many times has a woman who was accused (not convicted) of rape been murdered? And would you support it? We think of lynching as a racial issue and it is but it was more of a gender issue. Black women were not being lynched but some White men were.
/r/MensRights15/09/25 09:14 PM
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MRAs did a great job of raising awareness of important men's issues and are the main reason why feminists will now actually concede that men have legitimate issues (something feminists used to deny). Of course, misandrists like you will always do whatever you can to stand in their way and unfortunately misandrists like you eventually lead to the MRM being a lot smaller now than it used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:53 AM
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MRAs were making good progress on a lot of men's issues and changing the public perception on men's issues. Feminists fought with everything they had to spread lies and undermine the movement and ultimately the MRM withered away due to the strong opposition from misandrists. You can still see ITT people continuing to spread misandrist lies about MRAs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:51 AM
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Nobody is denying that men have their issues that was the standard belief of feminists until MRAs worked to change public attitudes about men's issues. But so fa they think it's women's job like we're collectively their mommies what? Who said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:47 AM
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MRAs, men’s help gurus, and so on all seem to be more interested in talking about what women are doing and attempting to put a limit on that rather than actually advocate for programs that help and support men. if people like you could actually bother to look into MRAs instead of blindly repeating the propaganda told to you by misandrists then maybe MRAs could have made more progress. they come advocacy from women themselves women like Karen DeCrow, who was run out of the movement because she th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:46 AM
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who is "they"? anybody who wants girls to not be sent to young offender institutions but is fine with boys being sent there because they only care about girls
/r/MensRights11/09/25 09:20 PM
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no, there are fat bald broke drug dealers getting attractive women because those women want a guy who is a violent piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:31 PM
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female teachers You underestimate how many male teachers are male feminists. Tradcon teachers (both men and women) are also a problem, but obviously feminists have the most influence in teaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:52 PM
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this. MRAs won this issue so hard that feminists have to gaslight and pretend that they never fought against these laws in the first place. Even though the fight over these laws is what caused feminists to kick MRAs out of their movement in the first place. Karen DeCrow, an MRA who was the president of NOW in the 70s, said in an interview that this was the reason she wasn't welcome at NOW anymore. And now feminists lost this battle so badly that they have to pretend they were never against us.
/r/MensRights08/09/25 11:41 AM
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also most single fathers are just regular guys, while single mothers tend to be the type of woman who chose to get knocked up when she was 20 by a random guy she never wanted to marry. So most single mothers are women who make poor decisions in general.
/r/MensRights08/09/25 11:37 AM
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Shit ain't a vacuum Women's choices ain't a vacuum either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:44 AM
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weird coincidence that it happens to nice guys a lot more than it happens to assholes though. Almost like physical attractiveness isn't actually the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:22 PM
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what a coincidence that nice guys are a lot more likely than assholes to get cuter after they turn 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:42 PM
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what a coincidence that nice guys get cuter when they turn 30 while the assholes are less physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:28 PM
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you can also unkind your way out of ugliness. There are fat bald guys who are successful with women specifically because he's a piece of shit and while not all women want a guy who's an asshole, the number of women who want a guy who's an asshole is a lot higher than the number of men who are assholes so men who are assholes tend to do well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:15 PM
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Shaming men for not meeting women's sexist and hypocritical standards is absolutely a feminist principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 11:40 PM
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but always with an underlying commitment to traditional gender roles so you obviously haven't done any research on MRAs or their origins either. No offense but maybe you should stop just believing things other people told you and stop posting about things you haven't researched. Nobody who knows anything about Warren Farrell would ever accuse him of being committed to traditional gender roles. Check out some of the links in the comment you replied to if you actually want to start researching thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:28 PM
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Not quite true. There were many feminists in the 60s and 70s who supported true equality, such as Warren Farrell, Karen DeCrow, Christina Hoff Sommers and Erin Pizzey. However they were kicked out of feminism and became the Men's Rights Movement, so while at one point there were feminists who supported gender equality there haven't been mainstream feminists supporting equality since the 70s (Sommers still calls herself a feminist but every other feminist hates her)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:33 AM
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MensLib the subreddit was founded by a feminist who says that misandry isn't real and that he hates himself for being a man. And that subreddit was founded to follow feminists who say that men shouldn't get custody after divorce and that men can't be victims of DV. If you actually support gender equality, do some actual research instead of following a subreddit based on lies and gaslighting. If anybody really wants to learn the history of feminism and men's rights, Uneasy Males is a great book a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:31 AM
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I think some women are genuinely arbitrary about height, but that seems rare Are you American? It's mostly American women who are obsessed with height. If you're not American then maybe you don't realize how bad the height fetish is in America. Selective traditionalism Most feminists finally are willing to split the bill (although they used to expect men to pay). And feminists still think men should have to take the initiative and do the work in the relationship. But I don't know any men who tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:24 AM
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Are cishets discriminated against in the justice system and does Pride protest to keep it that way or make it worse? Do cishets have shorter lifespans and does Pride want to keep it that way or even make it worse? Does the government erase rape and abuse by LGBTs against cishets and does Pride protest to keep it that way? I could go on but the point is you have no fucking idea what you're talking about kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:17 AM
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why is it so? https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/ https://www.news.com.au/sport/football/womens-national-team-humiliated-71-by-u15-boys-team/news-story/93e87b0dcac51e1d8146eddbb716f3f1 https://www.foxnews.com/sports/former-uswnt-star-carli-lloyd-admits-losing-to-under-15-boys-team-yes-its-true
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:15 AM
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Feminism doesn’t care about men being virgins or not. There are no stance of feminism where they say “men shouldn’t be virgins”, “virgin men are losers” Feminists constantly use "virgin" and "incel" as an insult and tell men who can't get laid that they are bad people. Women don’t discriminate based on height, it’s their dating preference, and you’re (men) entitled to yours too, feminism doesn’t say you have to date fat women. Body shaming isn’t about dating at all. Being fat is a choice. Being …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:11 AM
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then you shouldn't be offended says the woman who is offended when we point out the simple fact that virtually all feminists oppose equality for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:02 AM
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Have you spoken to every feminist on earth? More than you have by a lot. Do agree with the definition of feminism or not? Of course not, since any honest definition is "a movement that spent 50 years fighting against equality for men" Do you agree with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:01 AM
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Why do I get a feeling you're a brainwashed Zoomer who never spent any actual time doing deep research into how feminism deals with men's issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:59 AM
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Fighting against it is akin to a fish fighting water then why are you supporting a movement that spent 50 years fighting against gender equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:54 AM
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revenue and it gets even funnier when you look at profit instead of revenue. The WNBA literally loses money (and gets subsidized by the NBA). If feminists wanted fairness, WNBA players would owe the league money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:53 AM
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Also can we stop talking about these dinner dates are you young or just a misandrist? It wasn't that long ago that feminists thought men should pay for dates. Finally after enough resistance from anti-feminists you finally started splitting the bill... but you still expect men to take the initiative and ask for the date in the first place, so the point remains: Feminists want traditional gender roles in dating when it benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:50 AM
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Stop with the dictionary definition bullshit. If 99% of feminists oppose equality for men then feminism is an anti-male movement. If you have a problem with that, tell feminists to stop opposing male equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:49 AM
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Yeah, feminists don't virgin shame lol what? Feminists including on this subreddit will use "virgin" or "incel" as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:47 AM
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modern feminism kicked egalitarian MRAs out of the movement 50 years ago. It's been that long since feminism supported equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:46 AM
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This. I've seen other feminists make this argument and it never made sense. Like, okay Darwinism says that I should rape women and forcefully impregnate them. Is that really the argument she wants to go with? Or does morality suddenly matter more than Darwinism when we bring rape into it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 12:04 PM
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there are gaps in the system yes. Specifically there is a 5-year gap in retirement ages. Maybe if we didn't have such a misandrist system, men wouldn't have to pretend to be women to get around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 11:14 AM
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Are they pushing hard for equality and equity in every other area I don't know much about Argentina but I highly doubt that, every country I know of is either traditionalist or feminist. Nobody supports equality for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 11:07 AM
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this trans thing is creating all kinds of loopholes around sexism against men. A few years ago a Canadian man changed his gender to woman to get cheaper car insurance. I hope we see more of this. An end to female scholarships, affirmative action, women's programs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 11:06 AM
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Lowering retirement for men to 60 could cause a shortage of experienced workers. And I doubt you would get many women onboard with raising their retirement age to 65, removing female privilege has rarely been a wise move politically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 10:54 AM
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I'm an adult, that's my proof who is the authority on who is nice and who isn't? idk I think that men who beat women are not nice. You think men who beat women are nice, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:53 PM
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the more men someone has met dated the more likely it is that they were assaulted by a man how young are you that you're too stupid to pick up on that? The more women that someone has dated the more likely it is that they'll be assaulted by a woman. But the real point (that you missed because most of your generation is illiterate) is that women who choose toxic men are more likely to be abused than women who choose nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:17 PM
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Would you rather be harassed by creeps and people who "didn't know" your age since childhood and have some social interactions be tainted by trauma even as an adult or go without any sexual attention at all? in this example, you realize the first person also gets to have sex/relationship/marriage whenever she wants with no effort? I think most incels would take an occasional creepy comment if it came with the guarantee of sex/marriage that women have. know many will counter this by saying, "But …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:35 AM
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I know many married friends and family members on them it happens but statistically single women are a lot less happy. The GSS results showed that for women 18-55, married women were happier than unmarried women. While the majority were “pretty happy,” the difference for “very happy” women was dramatic: “40 percent of married women with children were very happy, compared to 25 percent of married childless women, 22 percent of unmarried childless women, and 17 percent of unmarried women with chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:20 PM
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Hetero women date men at a higher rate than Bi women, given that Bi women are also into women, so they have less time getting involved with men, than Hetero women. Yet bi women experience almost double the % of IPV caused by men? That's nonsensical. The numbers and logic don't add up. A lot of "bi" women aren't actually bi. She kissed a girl once and now brags about her LGBT points. There are also political differences. Bi girls are more likely to be liberal while conservative women tend to be h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 11:31 AM
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I’m so glad feminists are doing away with all the things that set women apart is this sarcasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:36 AM
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nice cope, I'll take that as you admitting you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:59 PM
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Most men care about women beyond a hole to fuck. Your problem is that you are only attracted to men who see you as a fuckhole. Then you complain about those men using you as a fuckhole instead of reevaluating your own standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:49 PM
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the vast majority actively sought out abusive men and deliberately rejected the nice guys because they see those guys as boring. It's very rare to meet a woman who was abused who didn't also reject multiple men who were equally attractive and never would have abused her. She likes the drama and she likes dominant men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:45 PM
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I've never met a woman who has been cheated on or abused or pumped and dumped I don't believe you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:40 PM
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but they are. In face women will even reject more attractive nice guys to date fat bald assholes. Then complain about those assholes and come to this subreddit to claim that it's not her fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:25 AM
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You're kind of right but it's not quite hatred or misandry. It's more that women want the best of both worlds. She wants most men to be nice to her so she tells men to be nice. But she is only attracted to the pieces of shit, so she dates the few men who are pieces of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:08 AM
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The motive is that women benefit from most men being kind, while she only wants to date the assholes. Most women reject the kind of guy she wants men to act like, because she wants most men to be nice guys but is only attracted to assholes. Every woman who complains about being mistreated by men is a woman who chose to date assholes and rejected nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:07 AM
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BUT being an asshat definitely makes you less attractive. Ok, (can't believe I have to explain this), but that's obviously bullshit and there's no way you don't know plenty of women who deliberately seek out shitty guys so why are you lying about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:02 AM
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bare minimum but if that's true then why are so many women flocking to piece of shit men while rejecting equally attractive nice guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:01 AM
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Ukrainian men are literally being kidnapped and forced to die by their government. The United Nations says that the real problem is that Ukrainian women are losing progress on women's rights so yeah I'd say men are treated as disposable by both the left and the right. Nobody except MRAs give a shit about male lives.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 09:16 PM
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PDF File the fact that you type like this makes me think you aren't even old enough to be a "PDF File"
/r/MensRights25/08/25 10:11 PM
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my research is called living in the real world and having a social life. You should try it. Go observe how many shitty men never have any trouble with women, even if he's not that attractive. Go look at how many of your female friends reject 20 good guys until she finds a guy who will cheat on her or treat her like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 07:57 PM
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The Pay Gap has nothing to do with a waitress or a doctor or a teacher doing a completely different job, It literally does. That's exactly how feminists got their 77% number and that's exactly what feminists mean when they talk about the wage gap. your talking rubbish! and you're a naive kid who fell for the propaganda of a cult. Research this shit next time, and keep lurking because this isn't the only propaganda you fell for.
/r/MensRights25/08/25 12:11 PM
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weird how the fat guys who behave like shit are more successful with women than the thin guys who are nice. Almost like women actually want the men who behave like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 10:12 PM
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Not even then. Unless it's a hot guy who has a fat fetish, he still has to take the initiative and be assertive which contradicts the advice of "treat women like equals and don't follow traditional gender roles"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 10:02 PM
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lol what? Feminism (a hate movement against men) is an extremely large and powerful movement that women have used for decades to oppose everything from support for male victims of DV to equal custody rights for fathers, and fought to preserve traditional gender roles that benefit men. There is NOTHING on the male side that comes even close to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:51 PM
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Construction workers making more money than a waitress is not because the patriarchy is oppressing women. The gender pay gap is about paying two people the same salary if they are hired to do the same job. no it is not, feminists lied about that. Feminists compared male construction workers to female waitresses and determined that the only reason female waitresses are paid less than male construction workers is because their employer is discriminating against them. Feminists demand that female w…
/r/MensRights24/08/25 03:43 PM
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feminism spent decades fighting against 50/50. This is exactly why MRAs became anti-feminist. This was a major issue for decades and feminists only recently started backing down on it because MRAs were winning that argument. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and are clueless about the history of the cult you keep defending.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:05 PM
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okay you're obviously a troll, not bad I guess 5/10 bait
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:31 AM
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Lmao. No, you would reject yourself for not being manly enough and not taking enough initiative and not being assertive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:21 AM
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why are you joining this conversation if you don't have any idea what you're talking about? Feminists fighting against joint custody is literally why MRAs became anti-feminist in the first place. Karen DeCrow was literally the president of America's largest feminist organization. Here she is saying she was kicked out of the organization because she supported equal rights for fathers. Warren Farrell (who was the only man on the Board for NOW) has said similar things. You should really actually re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:20 AM
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voting isn't real and laws have never been changed k
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:16 AM
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Where is all the male chest beating over “men gate keep relationships?” idk, check the male feminist subs since white knights are the only ones claiming that. Are you literally 15? Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:10 PM
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Blue Pill Woman incapable of understanding basic math Hmm. For every woman who wants a lifelong marriage based on love and commitment there are 10 men wanting that. Changing his standards isn't going to fix basic math but if you understood basic math you wouldn't be a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:10 PM
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Choose better! what does that mean? Choose to stay single lol, when men tell women to choose better it's because there are countless good guys that you could choose. But apparently there aren't good women so your advice is to "choose to stay a lonely virgin for the rest of your life and never have kids"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:51 AM
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most women still do the bulk of the childcare for you imagine arguing that women getting custody is somehow a bad thing for women. If that were the case then why did feminists fight so hard against joint custody?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:47 AM
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That depends on if you live in a community property state or a common law state, it's a good idea to look up the law before signing a marriage contract how is that relevant at all? The discussion is that the law is biased. Responding with "OH YEAH WELL THE LAW IS THE LAW!" isn't exactly an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:46 AM
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men choose no they don't. Men don't have 1000 women to pick from. And since women choose men who earn more, men are usually stuck with a woman earning less. Now check your privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:44 AM
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You would be an incel if you were a man btw
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:05 AM
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most of my male friends who are succesful at dating tend to be the most cheating, aggresive, and kinda douchbag-type people. this. The men that women complain about also happen to be the men that all of those women want to date. And they wonder why other men want to act that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:59 PM
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you are already far behind and what advice does anybody else have for those men? "Just treat women like equals because women hate gender roles and want to take as much initiative as men have to"? or "Just give up you will never be happy so just kill yourself"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:48 PM
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no, women give terrible advice and tell men to be the type of man that she would never date. This is literally why the phrase "the red pill" is used. I'm an MRA and not a TRPer but TRPers are actually right about some things, especially the fact that women will never date a man who doesn't follow traditional gender roles no matter how much feminists try to convince you otherwise. Women want a man to make the first move and be the leader. TRPers will tell you that, feminists won't and even a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:41 PM
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it's the difference between "liking and being nice to all women and men" and "liking and being nice to the women you are attracted to and not to any men" guess which type of man most women including feminists prefer? Not the one any woman will admit. Any feminist says that the men who treat women and men the same is a misogynistic incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 10:32 PM
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although the UK has insane feminism like this they also had the most prominent politician of any country who supported men's rights. Philip Davies was unfortunately recently voted out but before that he was an MP for 20 years and raised awareness of male suicide, discrimination against men in the justice system, international men's day, etc. and wasn't afraid of all the feminists (including others in Parliament) who kept calling him a misogynist for caring about males. He did get voted out last …
/r/MensRights13/08/25 01:12 AM
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You want men who are more assertive than you. You want men who take all of the initiative. You refuse to take as much initiative as you expect men to take. If you were a man you would be an incel because no woman would date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:40 PM
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none of you meet your own standards. So if the problem is that men aren't acting good enough for your standards, what does it say that you don't meet your own standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 10:33 AM
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I don't think any women actually believe that. The reason women don't ask men out is because it's easier to make men do all the hard work. But women don't like admitting that they're the ones enforcing sexist gender roles out of selfishness and entitlement, so they pretend that "the patriarchy doesn't let me approach men!" no matter how many times men tell them that's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:00 PM
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and also should prefer to be the guy who gets rejected during his 20s while women are choosing the hookup material guys, then when he's 30 he finally gets a chance with women over 30 once they decide they want a "relationship material" guy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:56 PM
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Bodyfat percentage takes that into account. Men are considered too fat if they're over 25%, for women it's over 32%. Even with that, there are significantly more women over 32% than men over 25%
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:53 PM
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Neither are women. How many men have profiles saying "swipe left if you're smaller than a D-cup" and how many women have profiles saying "swipe left if you're under 6 feet"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:49 PM
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without tripping on a land mine that is an abusive man is certainly not what I would call no effort lol at you implying women are actually trying to avoid those men. Women actively seek out abusive men because they find those men exciting, then want sympathy when it backfires. A woman who actually wants to date nice guys finds one with no effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:26 PM
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this really just speaks to how men are held to much higher standards than women though, because no woman is considered ugly just because she is "skinny/under muscled"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:25 PM
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Fitness is by far the single most important part of being attractive and men care a lot more about that than women do. Fat women with good fashion and haircuts are still fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:17 PM
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and both men and women are roughly evenly represented this is actually only true if you use BMI, which overestimates obesity in males due to men also feeling pressure lift weights and build muscle. If you use bodyfat percent then women are significantly fatter than men. This is also easily observable so anybody surprised by this is just confirming that men are held to higher standards than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:11 PM
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Family Guy actually did this joke the other way, with Lois's dad offering Peter a million dollars to leave Lois. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9n3aQboBeM&ab_channel=SuperLegendary
/r/MensRights05/08/25 02:20 PM
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This sounds like a joke. Family Guy actually did this joke the other way, with Lois's dad offering Peter a million dollars to leave Lois. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9n3aQboBeM&ab_channel=SuperLegendary
/r/MensRights05/08/25 02:20 PM
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men can have one-night-stands with fat chicks after a lot of effort and rejection and that is the same as women being able to get a serious long-term relationship on demand with no effort k
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 09:44 PM
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lol online dating (which now makes up the majority of relationships) firmly put your myths to rest. Women have proven to be a lot more shallow than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 09:04 PM
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Women's standards are totally fair none of you meet your own standards. How can your standards be fair if you don't meet your own standards? None of you are assertive enough. none of you take charge enough. And that's the argument with consistent standards: You keep saying you want men who treat women like equals yet no woman ever wants to date a man who actually treats you like an equal because that would mean you have to take as much initiative as he does and none of you are okay with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:45 PM
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It's big in America too
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/25 10:56 PM
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I donate to NCFM and the Suicide Hotline. I've thought about adding Movember to that, glad I never did. I've promoted them for years though so definitely disappointed to hear how much they've changed.
/r/MensRights03/08/25 08:55 PM
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look at how many feminists have the Ukraine flag in their social media profile.
/r/MensRights30/07/25 10:11 AM
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go tell the men in Ukraine that sexism against men is just hurt feelings
/r/MensRights30/07/25 10:10 AM
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Weight is so hard to use to determine if someone looks unattractive because everyone carries it so differently found the fatty
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:40 AM
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20 years ago it was 10 years ago ask your parents I'm probably older than your parents kid but nice projection from somebody who doesn't even remember 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:13 AM
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At the time the study was done the men using online dating were normal men while the women were fat. So it would be even worse now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:03 AM
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For any guys reading this, her comment makes more sense when you remember that men on OKCupid rated average women as average while women on OKCupid rated 80% of men as being below average. And OKCupid had a lot of fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:12 PM
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The women are mostly obese while the men are normal looking men and even some fit guys. The fact that you compare a 250-pound woman to a fit man and think the woman is more attractive is the best proof of hypergamy I can think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:13 PM
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The guys who think “women” are all dating bad boys are completely uninterested in good girls. Wrong, but the number of good guys interested in good girls is just so, so much higher than the number of good girls interested in good guys that the odds are not in the good guys favor. Whereas the number of girls who want the bad boys is higher than the number of bad boys which is why those bad boys never have trouble pulling women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:19 PM
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It's not about specific "red flags" so much as just a general sense of whether a guy is an asshole or whether he is a nice guy, whether he is a player or if he's the type to want commitment. It's really not hard to tell these guys apart. “well you wouldnt have been abused if you date good guys who werent hot” or if you date good guys who are equally hot. Let's be clear: These women are not choosing assholes and players in spite of them being assholes, they are choosing assholes and players becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:08 PM
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my husband says he complied with my demands of traditional gender roles because I made it clear that I would accept him complying with traditional gender roles this isn't the win you think it is. Thanks for admitting that you're sexist as fuck though and based on you dodging the feminist question I assume that I was right and you are a feminist who is just as sexist as every other feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:36 AM
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But you expect the man to move forward 10x more than you do. Because you are a misandrist who thinks men have to do most of the work. Your flair makes me think you're a feminist, are you? Because that would be typical for a feminist to support traditional gender roles and try to make excuses for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:37 AM
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no it doesn't. Which is why men have to actually take initiative while privileged feminists like you sit on your ass and make the man do all the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:21 AM
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and if a man merely "smiles back" does a woman then ask him out on a date? Or does the man get rejected for not being assertive enough? There's your answer. You just want an excuse to keep your female privilege without admitting how sexist you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:17 AM
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Women don't see it as solicitation either. If a man took that much "initiative" with a woman, would that be sufficient or would she dismiss him as not being assertive enough? There's your answer. You just want an excuse to keep your female privilege without admitting how sexist you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:56 PM
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see, when women like you get cheated on by a player, why are we supposed to feel sorry for you? Nobody is saying you should take all of the initiative btw, 50/50 would put you ahead of any other woman. But there is nothing less attractive to you than a man who treats women like equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:48 PM
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It means your great-great-great grandparents were 3rd cousins or something, but spread out over thousands of generations. Some of your male ancestors appear multiple times in your family tree especially if you were able to trace it back to pre-historic times.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:22 PM
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I believe it was actually banned in Europe because of their privacy laws. The app was basically women doxxing men behind their backs which is regulated in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:21 PM
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I don't know the specifics but I know that the basic app was free but there were other extra things you could pay for in the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:20 PM
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it's more about why so many women are specifically attracted to the type of men who cheat. Women will reject 100 loyal guys and then date the guy who will probably cheat on her. Then she uses that to bash all men instead of looking at how she judges men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:20 PM
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Women get asked out by lots of men, and reject most of those men in favor of guys like this. And nothing is stopping her from asking men out too. Most relationships start online anyway now, so it's less about other guys not asking her out and more about her thinking that normal men are too boring and wanting a more exciting guy. he is low in anxiety maybe women should stop rejecting men who aren't like that then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:13 PM
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It also results in arguably the most important trait that a man is judged on being how assertive and aggressive he is... which isn't necessarily going to make for the most caring and loyal partners. Women would benefit a lot from ditching traditional gender roles, but they're too short-sighted to realize how much their own sexism is harming them (and in more ways than this)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:12 PM
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any woman who doesn't understand why women keep dating cheaters and abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 10:05 PM
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Wow. I hadn't seen that. I'm honestly not the biggest Trump fan, and I don't know how much of that he means vs just pandering, but at worst he's at least pretending to care which is more than you'll see from Democrats. Philip Davies, a British MP, is the only politician I know of anywhere who really took men's rights seriously. He spoke up about issues like sexism against men in the justice system, and pushed Parliament to recognize International Men's Day (feminist MP Jess Phillips mocked the i…
/r/MensRights26/07/25 08:37 PM
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this. Before she was famous, she was a family court judge so she knows how it is.
/r/MensRights26/07/25 08:33 PM
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Even Warren Farrell himself says things like "I'm a feminist if feminism is defined as equality for both sexes" and then acknowledges that most of modern feminism isn't really like that. Christina Hoff Sommers still calls herself a feminist. Karen DeCrow did too until she passed.
/r/MensRights26/07/25 08:31 PM
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no awkward selfie with a copy of your ID/driver's license after what just happened with the Tea App there's no way that's going to fly lol
/r/MensRights26/07/25 05:54 PM
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Are you saying something like, "Someone who plays with matches should not complain if they get burned by them?" yes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:22 PM
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lol you can literally read this thread to see that you're wrong. Gender roles exist because of women which is why men are the only ones who want to get rid of gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:19 PM
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, but I just know you will share nudes on it instead of warning your bros to stay away from the crazies and women use apps like this to share graphic details of sex with a guy and out his fetishes and kink-shame him. Apps like this aren't popular among men because we think it's shitty to do things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:02 PM
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damn talk about victim blaming. You're literally in another comment talking about how you're such a good woman that an app like this would benefit you, then you come here and defend false accusations and victim-blaming men. Lucky for you this comment won't end up on an app because I can't imagine very many men being okay with this level of toxic misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:53 PM
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Plenty of women have falsely accused a man just to get revenge. The Columbia mattress girl was a well-known example of a woman falsely accusing a man and leading a harassment campaign against him just because he didn't want to date her. Look at how easily women believed her too. A lot more women will be willing to do this behind the safety of an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:52 PM
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This isn't the first time women had this app, there was a similar one 10 years ago. Men never got one because men don't have the same desire to gossip and we aren't naive enough to trust random strangers ranting about their exes the way women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:35 PM
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he's a feminist though so in his case he deserved to feel the wrath of his own movement. The Columbia mattress girl was the first one I thought of. She was willing to publicly harass a man like that just because he didn't want a relationship. Imagine how many more women are willing to privately do something like that to a man on an app like this. And we saw from that case every woman believed her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:26 PM
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The tea app is for random strangers. Men don't trust what a random stranger says about their ex which is why apps like these never became popular with men. Why do women find random strangers so trustworthy that this app has millions of women sharing gossip?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:17 PM
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if the #1 app in the app store was an app where men called their exes crazy bitches, the app would be banned from the app store.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:16 PM
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Men act the way women want us to act, what's the problem? The real question is, why are so many women immoral even when men want women to be moral? You are immoral even despite the rewards for being moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:08 PM
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No, because women will reject even the men she's attracted to solely because he's not assertive enough. It's a gender role and one that 99% of women rigidly enforce. It's also dishonest to reduce it to "horniness." Men are also more interested in romantic love and serious relationships than women. And women take advantage of this to impose sexist and selfish gender roles on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:00 PM
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Women put enormous pressure on men to be bold and assertive. Yes, sometimes this results in uncomfortable situations. But we can't keep punishing men for not perfectly navigating the gender roles that women unilaterally impose on men. For every unwanted kiss there are 10 men getting rejected because he wasn't bold enough to kiss her so she rejected him for not being manly enough. If the unwanted kisses are actually a serious problem then the obvious solution is for women to stop rejecting men wh…
/r/MensRights25/07/25 01:25 PM
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That's right, you're trying so hard to find a good sweet loyal man and darn your bad luck you ended up with another douchebag!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:27 AM
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Getting exactly what you want isn't a reward how so? The woman obviously wants a toxic relationship with a toxic man (otherwise why would she choose the toxic man over the hundreds of non-toxic options?). And the toxic man is getting a relationship while the non-toxic man is ending up alone. So how are toxic men not being rewarded here, and who is the loser aside from the non-toxic man which is what this thread is about?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:12 AM
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Nobody judges them and says “maybe they shouldn’t be toxic” Why would we? How am I going to tell a man "maybe he shouldn't be exactly what women want him to be"? If you want him to be toxic, then what's my place to tell him not to treat you the way you obviously want to be treated? If women stopped rejecting nice guys in favor of toxic men then maybe we could have a reason to criticize toxic men. But as it stands, women made it clear that you want men to be toxic. So why criticize toxic men for …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:58 AM
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"Why are dudes so toxic?" says woman who intentionally dates toxic dudes. Idk maybe date less toxic men and then men won't have such an incentive to be toxic? That's literally what this thread is about, women like you reject nice guys because you think toxic men are more exciting and then you cry about men behaving exactly like you taught them to behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:54 AM
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because women reward men who behave immorally. Men want moral women, women want immoral men. If you don't want men to behave immorally then you need to talk to all the women who teach men to be immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:52 AM
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the women who reject non-toxic men in favor of toxic men are the ones teaching men that they should be toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:50 AM
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People aren't actively seeking out red flags millions of women literally do exactly this. Like find any woman who has been cheated on or abused and 90% of the time it's a woman who actively seeks out red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:46 AM
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women aren't just having sex with toxic men. They are pursuing serious relationships with toxic men too. While a lot of non-toxic men are lonely. Which one should men choose, being non-toxic and lonely or being toxic and having a lot of women to choose from for a relationship? And if women are specifically choosing toxic men because they want toxic men while rejecting non-toxic men because women think they're boring, what incentive is there for men to not be toxic?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:45 AM
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Why do you believe that "traumatized" women should reward toxic men? Why don't you want these women to date good non-toxic men instead? And how does rewarding toxic men not just encourage more men to be toxic?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:43 AM
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it's rewarding for the toxic man you date. And not very rewarding for the non-toxic men that you reject because you would rather date toxic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:41 AM
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So you do not have a source that Uber/Lyft are treating Black people the same way they treat males? Thank you for admitting that this policy is just misandry and has nothing to do with safety.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/25 10:47 PM
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Who invented these gender roles, males did [citation needed] We both know that women are the ones who continue to enforce these gender roles (literally just look at this thread). So if we all know women are the ones enforcing the gender roles now then why do you claim that men invented these gender roles that women enforce now?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:40 PM
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but that's not what this thread is about. There is a filter allowing women to filter male drivers and passengers but no filter for race. And drivers also get penalized if they refuse rides for any reason except misandry
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/25 09:21 PM
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Please give me your source that Uber and Lyft allow White drivers and passengers to add an automatic filter to exclude all Black drivers and passengers like they are doing with male drivers and passengers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/25 08:40 PM
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Women, not men, determine which gender roles we follow. How is that not privilege? And how are gender roles which benefit women and make dating more difficult for men, and which are enforced by women against men's will, not privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:55 PM
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the problem is this would never fly with race. If a White driver said they don't feel safe picking up Black drivers, then neither Uber nor Lyft would tolerate that. I have also heard that Uber/Lyft even penalize drivers who refuse rides in dangerous neighborhoods. I am not a driver so I can't confirm that but it's what I've heard from other drivers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/25 07:50 PM
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tradcons and feminists both think men are disposable
/r/MensRights24/07/25 03:12 PM
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So get mad at Chad for lying/obscuring to women that he is pursuing other women lol it's not hard to tell which guys are players and which guys are husband material. Women are choosing the players because they think it's boring for a man to be husband material.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:08 PM
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MGTOW arguably got more hatred than either MRAs or TRPers. I think women know how much of their privilege comes from the fact that men are willing to bend over backwards and put up with misandry just to try attracting women. It's also why incel and virgin are still common insults: Women have to make it so men believe that the worst thing he can do is fail to attract a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:06 PM
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and the government doesn't do that Men are net taxpayers and women are a net tax burden. Taxes are just a transfer of wealth from men to women. Then you have alimony and child support too. And affirmative action in various government programs. Mind you, the "pay gap" is literally just the result of women taking advantage of their female privilege to work easy jobs while men have to force themselves to work shit jobs to try to impress women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:55 PM
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ironically women choosing to stay single is one of the reasons the cost of living is so high. In addition to individual women being able to split rent if they moved in with a man, if this happened on a large scale then rent would be down across the board. We don't talk enough about the fact that one of the primary things driving up housing costs is the fact that every previous generation cohabited and now for the first time ever men and women each need their own place. If young women got married…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:50 PM
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marriage rates are at historic lows and even the men who get married are increasingly having to settle for obese single mothers who were rejecting him when he was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:48 PM
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women are still putting great effort into maintaining their appearances Women have significantly higher levels of obesity (use bf% not BMI) and that's especially true at the higher ends. Obesity matters more for her appearance than clothes or makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:44 PM
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it would seem pretty awful to introduce a race filter This actually used to be a real problem where taxi drivers would refuse to pick up Black passengers because of stereotypes about Black people being violent criminals. Everybody acknowledged that was racist but nobody cares about the same stereotypes against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/25 09:30 PM
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Uber treats drivers as independent contractors, not employees, so it might make a lawsuit like that difficult. As for the customers, the Federal Civil Rights Act only prohibits discrimination against employees for gender, not against customers. Discrimination against customers due to race is illegal, but not gender. However, some states like California do have state laws that companies can't discriminate against customers based on gender so it might be an issue there. The law in California (The …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/25 09:28 PM
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The Federal Civil Rights Act only prohibits discrimination against employees for gender, not against customers. Discrimination against customers due to race is illegal, but not gender. However, some states like California do have state laws that companies can't discriminate against customers based on gender so it might be an issue there. The law in California (The Unruh Act) is actually used a lot by MRAs to end discrimination against men such as ladies nights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/25 09:27 PM
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Women are privileged enough to enforce sexist gender roles for your own selfish benefit while men don't have enough power to enforce the equality that we want. And the fact that women, not men, are the ones who want these gender roles kills your argument that these gender roles are a "curse." If women didn't want these gender roles then they wouldn't exist because you're the only ones enforcing them and you call men misogynists for daring to oppose gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:18 PM
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It never ceases to amaze me how skilled feminists are at turning a clear example of female privilege and women's sexism against men into somehow you being the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:29 PM
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lol who cares about Black people being killed? It's just Black-on-Black violence. The real problem is that Blacks kill Whites more than Whites kill Blacks. This proves that hating all Black people is justified! yeah definitely not a hate movement
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:17 PM
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Men have a choice. What choice? Women said no to traditionalism and you said no to gender equality. So men have a choice to just accept a deeply misandrist society where men have none of their traditional privileges but women get to keep all of your traditionalist privileges while also adding more privilege on top of that? That's the only choice you want men to have? If you don't like misogynists taking over then give men a real choice. Women need to start standing up and telling men that it's o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:13 PM
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lol no, nobody believes that anymore and if feminists actually supported equality for women and for men then men never would have turned to Andrew Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:54 PM
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For three generations, an increasing number of men said we wanted gender equality and for 60 years now feminists and women in general have made it very clear that you would never, ever, ever let men have gender equality. What are men supposed to do? Just submit to your misandrist cult? Did you actually think that men would just be okay with "get rid of all double standards that benefit men but keep all double standards that benefit women"? If feminists didn't want guys like Andrew Tate then you …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:53 PM
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the federal government literally doesn't even consider it "rape" when women force men to have sex but yeah Trump said that if you're tall and rich and attractive women will allow you to grab them by the pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:47 PM
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"Misandry doesn't kill anybody" *puts the Ukraine flag in her profile*
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/25 03:18 PM
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The MRM was started by feminists, but eventually those feminists were pushed out of the movement. Warren Farrell kept calling himself a feminist until the 90s. Karen DeCrow called herself a feminist until her death in 2013. Christina Hoff Sommers is the best known feminist to support gender equality today, but she is considered a fringe feminist who is hated by other feminists.
/r/MensRights22/07/25 02:01 PM
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and yet South Korea has a large feminist movement complaining about male privilege and misogyny.
/r/MensRights20/07/25 05:54 PM
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this. Always found it weird how feminists can generalize men as rapists and abusers based on a minority of men, but then it's misogynistic to point out that most women won't date a man less assertive than her or marry a man who earns less than her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/25 10:20 AM
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In the past, when young men realized that feminism was a scam and male privilege wasn't real, those men turned to MRAs and supported gender equality. Feminism killed that and told men that they would never be allowed to have equality. So now young men are turning to guys like Andrew Tate. What did feminists expect? Feminists told young men that men are not allowed to have equality, and men listened. I also remember feminists everywhere lying about Elliot Rodger being an MRA and when you asked fo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/25 10:14 AM
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White knights and male feminists deserve plenty of blame, and are often the worst misandrists.
/r/MensRights15/07/25 05:42 PM
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meanwhile even discussing legal parental surrender is against the rules there
/r/MensRights15/07/25 05:41 PM
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This is a great effort!!! I will however copy my comment from the other thread: Let's hope it actually keeps the spirit of the day. The UN did actually tweet for International Men's Day a few years ago... to thank the men who fight for women's rights. Nothing about men's own issues of course. Other feminists have also tried to co-opt International Men's Day over the years. UN Women has been very misandrist over the years (such as the misandrist HeForShe campaign and this comment about killing fe…
/r/MensRights14/07/25 11:08 PM
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you're the one who admitted you knew nothing about this topic and asked to be educated. If you don't want to learn then why ask the question?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/25 10:25 PM
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Not just half. 99%. Just based solely on how much initiative men are expected to take. How many women do you know that are assertive enough to date as a man? None of them, they would all be rejected just based on not being assertive enough, let alone all the other things men are judged on. Which makes it really ironic how much feminists insult men who are unsuccessful with women, when none of those feminists could successfully date a straight woman either.
/r/MensRights14/07/25 07:35 PM
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that included examples and you obviously need a lesson because you're new to this topic. Don't get me wrong, it's great that as a newbie you're asking questions, but you can't expect to learn everything all at once. I just gave you hours of material to work through, if you actually want to learn then go spend your time on that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/25 12:40 AM
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I'll copy/paste my reply that was shadowbanned from /r/askfeminists: MRA here. I'm going to be downvoted and possibly banned for this. But how many of you have actually researched MRAs? Do any of you even know how the MRM started? MRAs did advocate for women's issues because MRAs started as feminists. Warren Farrell lead marches on women's rights. Back then NOW wouldn't even let men join but they made an exception for Farrell and not only let him join but actually put him on their Board of Direc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/25 08:56 PM
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Let's hope it actually keeps the spirit of the day. The UN did actually tweet for International Men's Day a few years ago... to thank the men who fight for women's rights. Nothing about men's own issues of course.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 03:23 PM
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this. We don't like it when feminists make generalizations about men and we shouldn't be making them about women.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 02:35 AM
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accurate statistics are thought to be around 40% Which is not the majority let alone the "vast" majority. I am not disputing that false rape accusations are a lot more common that the 2% that feminists believe. I personally believe that around 25% are false. And I won't object to you saying that 40% are false, that's a believable number based on my research. But I was responding to somebody who said that the "vast" majority are false meaning what? 80%? 90%? That comment should not be upvoted and…
/r/MensRights11/07/25 10:43 PM
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It is irrelevant if most claims are true or false, what is relevant is getting a justice system that actually investigates the claims and clear them up. THIS!!! Obviously false accusations are a problem and are definitely a much bigger problem than feminists want to admit, and we need to take them more seriously than we do now, but saying that "the vast majority are false" is as wrong as what feminists say.
/r/MensRights11/07/25 10:37 PM
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Andrew Tate does not care about men's rights. I hate feminism more than he does, but never let yourself think he cares about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 10:33 PM
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Misandrists often treat men in the very same ways they themselves would find offensive if the roles were reversed there used to be a satirical movement called "meninism" which mostly just took things feminists/women said about men and flipped the genders. Feminists thought it was very misogynistic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 05:12 PM
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this. If anything reddit feminists are less hateful, and many of them only call themselves feminists because they haven't read feminist laws or academic papers. Mostly because all of the feminist subreddits censor and ban anybody who has actually researched feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 03:52 PM
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I was shadowbanned despite never posting there. There was a thread saying that MRAs don't care about women's rights. I tried posting in good faith to point out that MRAs started out as feminists who fought for women's rights, and that they only became anti-feminist because feminism was fighting against men's rights. These are pretty objective, undeniable historical facts. However I found out that I had been pre-emptively shadowbanned despite never posting there before. That really tells you all …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 03:50 PM
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Only misandrists ever claimed that Andrew Tate is an MRA. He has never claimed that he is one and his views are obviously very different from MRAs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 03:44 PM
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Given how upvoted that comment is, I can safely say this sub is as bad as 2XC It wasn't always this way. I've been here on and off for years and unfortunately the sub is the worst it's ever been now, but it used to be better and I'm hoping it can be good again. It's also lost like 90% of its users. Comments like that would not have had 100 upvotes a decade ago and I would not have been downvoted for my reply. I'd encourage you to stick around, use your own votes to try helping fix this sub. And …
/r/MensRights11/07/25 03:30 PM
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I agree with that for sure. It should be a severe felony.
/r/MensRights11/07/25 11:03 AM
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Most of those subscribers are not here anymore. This sub used to have posts getting thousands of upvotes and occasionally reaching /r/all. It has slowly died out and has a tiny fraction of the activity it used to. Go look at the top posts of all time for this sub and you'll see that they were all made over 5 years ago. It's dying partly because of the lies that feminists spread about us, partly because feminist opposition to men's issues has driven men away from MRAs and toward TRPers like Andre…
/r/MensRights11/07/25 10:24 AM
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I believe that the vast majority of rape allegations are completely false what are you basing this on? Certainly many are false, a lot more than the 2% that feminists often claim, but "the vast majority"?
/r/MensRights11/07/25 10:16 AM
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Outside of 1984 societies, language almost never evolves due to an intentional effort by the establishment to redefine words for political reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:24 AM
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yeah, three female teachers did this to a male student and the article was almost avoiding mentioning this.
/r/MensRights10/07/25 09:43 PM
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Just like it wouldn't be okay to avoid someone who has an African or middle eastern sounding name. This actually used to be a problem with taxis. Black men would have a harder time getting a taxi because taxi drivers were racist. People who defended this used "safety" as an excuse back then too.
/r/MensRights10/07/25 09:41 PM
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FYI your link didn't work right, it looks like it's typed fine so maybe try again start with []() then fill it in. Your most recent comment is also deleted. They shadow-deleted them so you wouldn't know unless you logged out. Apparently the mods of /r/confession are hardcore misandrists. Keep an eye on future comments there, they might have shadow-banned you.
/r/MensRights10/07/25 09:39 PM
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tres doritos despues three doritos later? What does this actually mean?
/r/MensRights10/07/25 12:21 AM
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That's a copout, and is not how the term "woman" was historically defined.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:48 PM
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There's a man who had plastic surgery done to make himself look like a tiger. Most gay men and heterosexual women are not attracted to him. Does that mean that he is a real tiger? Or is it just that being mentally ill with a lot of plastic surgery to make yourself look unnatural makes you unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:45 PM
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It's not just men. A lot of lesbians have complained about transwomen in lesbian spaces, and a popular lesbian subreddit (/r/truelesbians) was banned by reddit because they believed that same-sex attraction is real. Similar comments will get lesbians banned from any lesbian subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:43 PM
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This is male privilege!!! -feminism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/25 09:16 PM
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A link would be helpful for posts like this
/r/MensRights09/07/25 07:04 PM
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you should consider actually listening to MRAs instead of basing your opinion on what feminists told you.
/r/MensRights09/07/25 01:21 PM
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I think that a lot of young men delay having a family and settling down too, actually maybe, but it's definitely not nearly as common as it is for women to delay it. There are a lot of men in their 20s looking for a future wife but can't find one because too many women that age are not taking relationships seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:50 PM
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This. Either that, or Denmark will never use the draft again. Does anybody really think Ukraine would be using the draft if 50% of the people killed were women? Or that the US would have done it in Vietnam or any other time? No country is going to send that many women to die, they only send men to die.
/r/MensRights02/07/25 11:07 PM
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This. I even upvote a lot of anti-MRA comments here just because I think it's nice that somebody actually wants to have a discussion with us. We should be welcoming of people who come here, most MRAs originally started out as feminists / anti-MRAs.
/r/MensRights02/07/25 04:34 PM
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"You're the man. You're meant to be the Alpha, the provider." I don't exactly agree with this and it's not really in line with MRA philosophy, but that's the problem. Since feminists fought so hard against what egalitarians and MRAs stood for, there aren't many spaces left telling men that they should just get rid of traditional gender roles and be equals. So now, boys only have two choices: Feminism telling them that they are toxic oppressors who deserve to be mistreated, or these people who te…
/r/MensRights01/07/25 08:05 PM
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No, it's not. That just instantly makes you look like an angry 15-year-old. Be an adult and debate them like an adult. The word "feminist" is an insult enough to anybody who understands it.
/r/MensRights01/07/25 08:03 PM
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You're picking an edge case. He's also a man who has nothing but money going for him. Look at Trump, Tom Brady, Leonardo DiCaprio, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:11 PM
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plenty of women are choosing a man because he's a "bad boy" or because she's excited by how shitty of a person he is. Plenty of women are rejecting men who would make good fathers because she thinks it's boring for a man to be stable and dependable. Very rarely do women who actively seek a nice stable man end up as single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:33 AM
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men aren't rural americans? disabled? veterans? lgbtq? this is the problem that the left just doesn't understand. You only care about men to the extent that those men are also members of other groups that you care about. Whereas you care about all women and you care about women's issues. Not men's. war Biden told Ukraine to draft more men, Vance pointed out that Ukraine wasn't using volunteers and needs to stop forcing conscripts to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:38 PM
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Most leftwing spaces promote feminism and feminism is a movement which has historically fought against men's rights and even outright denies that men have any significant issues. When the Democrats go out of their way to say they serve women but never talk about men, when Obama created a White House Council on Women and Girls but never one for Men and Boys, when the UN had HeForShe, that's feminism. Your ideology is based on the belief that only women should be helped. Remember when Biden refuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:17 PM
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Until recently the Democrats had a "Who We Serve" page. Women were on there. Men were not. men don't have wives and babies they don't want to die because abortion laws have increased the maternal and infant mortality rates in those states men notice how common it is for "we care about men" turns into "here's how we help women and since men care about women that means it's good for men!" None of you would support abortion if men got pregnant, just like right now you seem to think it's okay to for…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:10 PM
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It's a myth that rich people don't pay taxes https://smartasset.com/data-studies/taxes-top-1-percent-2024 The top 1% of earners typically pay much more in taxes than many other Americans. Nationwide, this group contributes 45% of total personal income taxes collected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:33 PM
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I think there's a problem with assuming that every Democrat agrees with the Democrats on everything or that every Trump voter agrees with him on everything. This is where people get it wrong when they automatically refuse to date any Democrat/Republican
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:30 PM
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Men work longer hours and a lot of men work physically grueling jobs and/or dangerous jobs. I think a lot of occupations need far better safety standards and working environment or better control of these things. one of the biggest female privileges is simply that everybody recognizes and cares about your problems. You can bet that if 93% of workplace deaths were women, we would have those far better safety standards pretty quickly. If women have feminism to push for liberation from their gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:36 PM
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MGTOW started from actual legitimate grievances. 4B started from misandrist entitlement. But other than that, you're right, although I wonder if it's just that we never see the types who don't complain like that because they're just off minding their own business.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:26 PM
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this is pretty much why societies went with monogamy though. Because the alternative is violence and rape like they did in the caveman days.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:22 PM
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I think you're taking those the wrong way. For example the point about Chad is that women don't care about a sense of humor as much as they say they do. And with validation, it's a complaint about how many women on dating apps are less interested in actual dating and more interested in just knowing that there are a lot of men who want to date them. Women IRL do this too sometimes, they'll flirt with a guy she has no interest in actually dating or sleeping with just because she likes the validati…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:21 PM
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How can a middle aged woman type the way you do and not feel shame? A happy woman your age does not type the way that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:19 PM
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there are a lot of attractive men who struggle. Men also have to be assertive and take initiative, even attractive men are not getting asked out on dates by anyone except fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:14 PM
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The population of South Korea is going to get halved before the end of 2100 at these rates This. Look at countries with high birth rates, that's the future of the world. North Korea's birth rate is double South Korea's. Countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria have high birth rates. If anything, the experiment is freedom and that experiment is showing to be a failure. 100 years from now free societies will be dead and replaced by restrictive societies. The West is going to die due to Darwinis…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:12 PM
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reading this comment, you do not sound like a very happy person to me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:59 AM
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To each his own, but statistically you're wrong. Married people are happier than single people and that goes for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:53 AM
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women are choosing not to take it when they're young but many end up regretting it. Look at how many women in their 30s and 40s are trying to have relationships with the same type of guy she rejected in her 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:48 AM
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the alternative is a decent looking man who is loving and caring and supportive. And statistically, no, single women are not happier. Especially single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:47 AM
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Lifelong romantic relationships with just one person? We're already at the point where you can't say the "vast" majority of young people will do that and in another generation, if things keep going like this, it won't even be a majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:45 AM
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explain why most married men are Republicans and most single women are Democrats. Hint: Read your comment and see how obnoxious your personality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:43 AM
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good point. Men as a group are net taxpayers and women as a group pay less than they benefit. And that's not even getting into alimony and child support. Women are not "independent" they just married the government and use the government to force men to keep supporting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:41 AM
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The men on this sub who seem repulsed by the idea of giving their girlfriend validation, who complain that they don’t want to have to be good company, or have a sense of humor, or even carry a conversation on a date are basically saying “I will make a terrible partner, dont expect anything nice!" where the hell are you seeing that? I only see men complaining that relationships and dating shouldn't be a one-way street.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:38 AM
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before the nuclear family the only difference was other adults (grandparents, adult children, etc) living in the house too (a nuclear family only has the mother and father and kids). Marriage was still the expectation for both men and women. There is no point in history where this many adults were single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:34 AM
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How did it fail? By what metric are you saying that we're better off now? Men and women are both lonelier and more depressed now. Married men and women are both happier than single men and women. Crime is higher (due in large part to single mothers). Schools are worse (also single mothers). People can't afford rent (it would be easier if men and women lived together). You destroyed the nuclear family and now everybody is worse off. Men, women, and children are all suffering because feminists tau…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:30 AM
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did you know most teen moms didnt have teen boyfriends who got them pregnant? most teen moms were 18 or 19, so not a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:26 AM
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you missed the point. Women are choosing the men who are not interested in parenting their children. These women are deliberately rejecting any and all men who would be interested in parenting their children. If a man was interested in parenting his future children, she wouldn't have children with him in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:17 AM
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Do you know how easy it is to tell which men are more likely to cheat or beat their wife? These women aren't being tricked, they are choosing these men because they think it's exciting to be with that kind of man. We all were better off when girls were taught at a young age to date the nice guys and judge a man based on whether he will make a good father.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:36 AM
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Before modern feminism it was very rare for kids to be born out of wedlock. Single motherhood is a problem created by feminists and the fact that women today are told that it's okay to chase after the bad boys and reject nice guys who make good fathers. if men gave a fuck about their kids there is no shortage of men who would give a fuck about their kids. Every single mother had the chance to reproduce with dozens of those men. She didn't want it. She wanted the players who would not stick aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:30 AM
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yes. You can say Chris Brown went too far, but Rihanna started punching him while he was driving. Ray Rice was a similar story, his wife kept hitting him in the face. I had many feminists accuse me of victim-blaming for saying that if women don't want men to hit them, then they shouldn't hit men. The public reaction to both of those stories is a great example of the type of mainstream misandry we're told doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:31 AM
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Just as violent/ abusive men and chronic deadbeat dads find victims, so do violent / abusive crazy woman find victims. I think there's a difference. Many men want a nice girl but settle for the crazy because of how much harder dating is for men so his only alternative is to be alone. Whereas with women, the women who end up with those guys usually had a lot of other options to date nice guys, but she's specifically attracted to the crazy toxic aggressive type of man. Loneliness isn't driving wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:28 AM
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is it still "Niccccccceeee" when the underaged boy has to pay 18 years of child support? Because that's the law.
/r/MensRights26/06/25 08:04 PM
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yeah, you're right. I don't care what the crime is. Murder, rape, whatever, the goal should be rehabilitation. Now obviously this should apply equally to men and women, but everybody should have a chance to redeem themselves after a mistake even if that mistake was a serious crime.
/r/MensRights26/06/25 07:42 PM
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Yeah, I mean I'm not going to deny that she's hot. Crazy obviously, but very attractive. Shit I don't know if I ever had a teacher as hot as her. And like the other user said, that means that almost any man her own age would date her. So she specifically wanted an underage boy. She was rejecting tall, hot, fit men her age who had good personalities so she could fuck a 14-year-old boy. And as a reminder for any new users here: If she gets pregnant then her underage victim has to pay child support
/r/MensRights26/06/25 07:37 PM
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People tend to forget that the overall goal of feminism is equality then why do the vast majority of feminists fight against equality for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:58 PM
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Why do you think a common talking point of feminists is “patriarchy hurts men too? because if you want to find some way to pretend to care about men even though you obviously don't. "Patriarchy hurts men" is only ever used to deflect and undermine people who actually support gender equality, you never use it in a way that means you want to fix men's issues or even agree with the people who fight for men's rights. Discriminatory custody laws, lack of help for male victims of DV, the idea that men…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:52 PM
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although the outside thinks of the "manosphere" as a collective, it's actually different factions that don't get along (MRAs are the egalitarian faction who just want equality for both men and women). Red pillers definitely used to make fun of incels (and MRAs) back in the day.
/r/MensRights26/06/25 11:42 AM
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lol, good luck, but remember that even saying "Kill all White men" is not against the law in England. In practice, hate speech laws in England don't apply to males
/r/MensRights26/06/25 11:40 AM
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The common argument from feminists was always that men can only have problems due to factors other than them being men. EG, a poor man struggles because he is poor but not because he is a man. The idea that men have any problems because they are men is one that feminism pushed back against hard and is a significant reason why feminists have historically been against MRAs and egalitarians. Some feminists might be changing, at least they claim they are, but the gaslighting from them and the fact t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:32 AM
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FYI Andrew Tate is not an MRA at all and he and MRAs generally disagree about a lot. Tate is more of a traditionalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:22 AM
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lol, /u/Blue__Ronin is in another thread arguing that feminism cares about men's issues. Then he comes in here and tells you that men don't have any issues. It's the same typical of COURSE feminists care about men's issues! Or we would if you had any issues, which you don't because men are privileged and only women matter
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:21 AM
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Since women judge men a lot more harshly than men judge women, there aren't many female late bloomers. Most women single after 30 are women who simply don't value serious relationships. Women who wanted a serious relationship in their 20s but couldn't find one are very rare. You're basically just talking about women who were obese in their 20s and lost the weight later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:20 AM
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arguably the most common reason for a young man to fail with women is that he's not taking enough initiative, not being dominant enough, and not taking charge. A lot of young men make the mistake of treating women like equals (because that's what they're told to do) and take too long to learn that women want the man to be the leader in the relationship. It's also easier to conform to women's expectations if she's younger, because if a man is dating a younger woman it feels more natural for him t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:18 AM
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I still can't quite understand the mental process behind this. It's all just about the obsession with wanting to date a "real man" Women judge men on masculinity way more than men judge women on femininity. Women think that a man who has sex with another man is not a real man. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:13 AM
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feminists literally is pro-men's issues. it's literally not and we have decades of history to prove this. the problem is, that you guys in the MRA seem to only bring up men's issues in conversations around WOMEN'S PROBLEMS completely false, you're now just spreading lies to justify your own misandry. THATs the problem feminism has with mra the problem you have is that we talk about men's issues, period. Here is the full speech from Warren Farrell in 2012 that was the target of a feminist protest…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:04 AM
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and yet, the subreddit still thinks MRAs were wrong to oppose feminism and feminists were right to oppose MRAs. Nobody who supports equality would say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:00 AM
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Except thats not what they mean when they say "violence against women" . violence against women is a phrase used to describe a specific kind of violence, whether its domestic or not VAWA is called VAWA because feminists think that only women are victims. Most feminists who are informed on the model are aware of the problems of it, and don't use it to ascribe ALL abuse but instead abuse directed towards women The Duluth Model originally claimed that women couldn't be abusive because they lacked p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:57 AM
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Why do you hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:06 AM
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You make the point that men can be victims of domestic violence today, and you'll get an overwhelming reply of "yes men can become victims of it". Can you go into a feminist space and say that it's wrong to use the phrase "Violence Against Women" to refer to all domestic violence (like with VAWA)? Can you go into a feminist space and say that feminists were wrong for supporting the Duluth Model and MRAs were right to oppose it? Can you go into a feminist space and say that feminists were wrong t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:46 AM
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You're obviously not aware of the history. DeCrow spoke at MRA conferences and was a top lawyer for NCFM in the 80s and 90s. You're a self-hating misandrist in denial and no amount of historical revisionism will change that. I mean have fun hating yourself for being a man but stop lying to the rest of us because your self esteem is so low that you're afraid to do even basic research on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:37 AM
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You gave no details in this post, what are we supposed to be talking about? How can somebody upvote this when nobody knows wtf you're even talking about?
/r/MensRights25/06/25 09:47 PM
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Half of MRAs are ex-feminists. Now, not all feminists are true "misandrists." In fact I'd say most feminists just don't understand what they're supporting as opposed to them truly hating men, and most feminists who become MRAs make the change once they start doing the research and learn what their movement actually stands for. I have known a couple actual misandrists who changed though. Social media has been really interesting because I can see the people I knew back in school grow up and evolve…
/r/MensRights25/06/25 08:16 PM
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Is it possible that things aren't as dire as you imply? marriage rates are basically the lowest they've ever been. Is it possible that the dating "market" often shifts, and what we see now is temporary? it has never shifted this badly, it has never been this unbalanced, and every indication is that it's going to keep getting worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:43 AM
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The thing is they may not have met 10 years ago he met women like her 10 years ago, tried to date them, and got rejected. She met men like him 10 years ago, they tried to date her, and she rejected them. They would both be happier if those rejections didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:33 AM
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some feminist advocate for equal child custody a feminist who was kicked out of the movement specifically because she advocated for equal child custody. More of the modern feminist I've seen also support equal child custody arrangements do they really? Ask those feminists whether they think MRAs were justified in being anti-feminist. Because child custody is the biggest reason MRAs became anti-feminist and you won't find many feminists who agree that MRAs were right to fight against feminism. Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:38 PM
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lots of men want to have a relationship more than sex. The problem is that most women reject those men for not being assertive and dominant enough. If any woman has any trouble finding men who will wait, the problem is her own sexist standards. Stop rejecting men who aren't sexually aggressive and you won't feel any pressure at all to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:32 PM
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the split wasn't about who they blamed. The split was about whether men had any issues at all. Kimmel, NOMAS, and the pro-feminist faction believed that the men's movement should exclusively support women's issues because men were privileged and don't have any issues. For example there wasn't any need to help male victims of DV because men were not victims of DV. MRAs only started blaming feminists after it became indisputable that feminism was against men's equality. Have you ever looked into t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:11 PM
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Can you go into a feminist space and say that it's wrong to use the phrase "Violence Against Women" to refer to all domestic violence (like with VAWA)? Can you go into a feminist space and say that feminists were wrong for supporting the Duluth Model and MRAs were right to oppose it? Can you go into a feminist space and say that feminists were wrong to oppose help for male victims of DV in California and that MRAs were right to sue California over that issue? Can you go into a feminist space and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:44 PM
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sorry, you sounded shocked at the idea of a woman keeping her legs closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:29 PM
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Studies have shown that women with lower body counts are happier and have higher quality marriages than women who have a lot of casual sex. It turns out feminism isn't actually best for women's happiness and the old way really was better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:38 PM
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The problem is that women's standards are so high that they're unrealistic, so now we have women rejecting literally thousands of men and ending up single in their 30s. Many of those women would be happier if they had "settled" for a decent looking guy with a good personality who wanted to date her when she was 24. Even the women who do manage to find a relationship in their 30s typically end up with the same type of man they were rejecting before. If a 32-year-old woman ends up with a 32-year-o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:26 PM
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Get more custody of their kids Are you lying or do you just not know what you're talking about? Equal custody is literally the reason that feminists forced MRAs to leave their movement (MRAs started as feminists if you didn't know that). Here's an interview with Karen DeCrow from 1984 where she says she was no longer welcome at NOW because she supported equal rights for fathers, something NOW was against. Learn your history before you have these conversations because you obviously don't know wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:08 AM
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giving women special privileges shouldn't take away from equality of the sexes it does equality of the sexes, which is what most feminist advocate for name a single feminist organization that advocates for equality for men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:40 AM
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Men only tell boys that because girls will reject them. Men are saying "Girls will reject you if you cry." Men telling boys about women's sexist standards is obviously still women's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:05 AM
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agreeable wtf does that mean? Men want an equal partner fit You mean non-obese. That's not a gender role you fat fuck. in her twenties 100% of women in their 30s used to be women in their twenties. So where is the pressure?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:04 AM
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I don't understand what you mean? There are like 100x more men than women who are against gender roles. Gender roles only exist because of women. Are you actually trying to argue that men won't let women ask us out on dates? Are you pretending that men reject women who take initiative? lol, everybody knows who enforces gender roles including you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:27 PM
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Most men will date their female equivalent. No woman will. Make of that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:43 PM
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It's a cycle men have never had the sexist one-sided standards that modern women have though. Men and women get rejected for not being attractive. Men (some) get rejected for making less than a woman. Women (some) get rejected for making more than a man. Men (some) get rejected for being too short. Women (some) get rejected to being too tall. Women have lots more options for sex than men because men (some) have low standards. lol you have to be trolling if you think these are happening at the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:19 PM
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You reject men who take less initiative than you do. You won't admit it but you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:04 PM
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Good thing I don't expect any of that yeah you do. You just lie about it, even to yourself. You aren't as egalitarian as you tell yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:47 PM
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ummmm there's no governing body officially defining hypocrisy so it's okay for feminists to hold contradictory views lol The dating market is an extremely free market in which one side holds all of the power. And that same side lies about what they want, pretends to want equality, and then calls you a misogynist if you actually want equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:45 PM
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Many women embrace gender roles and basically zero women who oppose them. It's almost like gender roles benefit women and feminists are all lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:42 PM
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No, I don't know as much about MRA history as you do. The short version is: MRAs were literally feminists. And I mean actual feminist leaders. Karen DeCrow was the President of America's largest feminist organization. Warren Farrell marched with Gloria Steinem fighting for women's rights and was on the Board of Director's for NOW when NOW wouldn't even let men join, they made an exception for Farrell because of how much he had fought for women's rights. Erin Pizzey founded the first battered wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:45 PM
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Want to know one difference in this conversation? I never personally opposed gay people and I never spread any lies about feminists, nor have I ever opposed equality for women. Whereas based on your comments ITT I think it's safe to say you were one of the people opposing equality for men and spreading harmful lies about MRAs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:25 PM
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Because MAGA had conservatives backing them. Conservatives didn't support MRAs so when feminists spread toxic lies about MRAs, MRAs eventually fell.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:10 PM
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MRAs were obviously of good faith, the misandrists who lied about them to undermine their movement (like you) were not acting in good faith. And misandrists like you, who continue even now to spread blatant lies about MRAs, are the reason MRAs didn't become "of consequence." The left, not the right, were the ones spreading misandrist lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:09 PM
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When feminists oppose equality for men, just ignore them Would you tell Black rights activists to ignore White supremacists? Would you tell gay rights activists to ignore homophobes? Do you know anything at all about MRAs? Can you explain what the primary issues were that caused MRAs to turn anti-feminist in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:08 PM
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You obviously weren't following them closely. The former President of NOW was extreme right wing? The only man allowed on NOW's Board of Directors was extreme right wing? The woman who founded the world's first battered women's shelter was extreme right wing? Even in 2016 Warren Farrell endorsed Hillary over Trump. Where do you think the Proud Boys came from? not MRAs. Seriously the fact that not a single anti-MRA knows fuck all about the movement is pretty telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:06 PM
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found the misandrist. See, this is what I'm talking about. Go into a conservative space and start saying that male victims of domestic violence need more support and you won't get this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:05 PM
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MRA shit is inherently conservative. It demands a return to historical norms of male domination. what the actual fuck are you talking about? Do you know anything at all about MRAs? What you said is completely false, go look into the history of the movement. It was created by feminists who believed that equality for both men and women was necessary. As Warren Farrell put it "All men's problems are women's problems and all women's problems are men's problems, and when either sex loses both lose." …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:04 PM
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He is not real, he does not exists outside reddit he actually has a pretty big social media following and his podcasts have a lot of views.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:49 PM
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There is no social/political movement of consequence that advocates for men in good faith the men's rights movement was on the verge of becoming mainstream 10-15 years ago. Feminists fought against that far more than anybody on the right did. Yeah rightwingers would call MRAs pussies and tell them to man up, but it doesn't come close to the hatred feminism had for a movement advocating for men. You can blame the Right for not supporting MRAs either, but the real reason MRAs lost steam was becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:47 PM
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I would say the left actually hates men, while the right just doesn't care about men. While the right doesn't support men's issues, they aren't actively fighting against MRAs like the left does either and you can at least get sympathy from some people on the right. There's a reason that MRAs (who were traditionally leftwing) have shifted to the right over the last decade. If you bring up men's issues and challenge the bullshit "male privilege" narrative in conservative spaces you at least won't …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:33 PM
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make whatever excuses you want to cope with it, but it's a choice who you date and men aren't hiding it as well as you're pretending. Women who want to date genuinely nice guys have no problem dating those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 07:41 PM
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drinking underage is illegal and they do get penalized
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 05:29 PM
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Many women do purposely select dominant and aggressive men who have a ton of red flags. Many women reject men just because the man isn't aggressive enough and is too "nice."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 05:27 PM
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I don't know any women who wouldn't be incels if they were men. I mean literally every straight woman I know would be a virgin for life if she were judged like men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 02:58 PM
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the case of Daryl Kelly from New York is particularly bad. Drug addict mom pushed the daughter to falsely accuse the dad of raping her and even threatened to beat the daughter if she didn't. Dad got convicted based on testimony even though there wasn't any physical evidence. The worst part is that New York still kept him in prison even after the daughter grew up and said it wasn't true, and she was actively trying to get New York to let him go. But last I checked a few years ago they were still …
/r/MensRights21/06/25 08:38 PM
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This. Feminists will claim they support a gender-neutral draft in peacetime but nobody is arguing for Ukraine to draft as many women as men. The EU has feminist leaders, and none of them care. Ukraine and Russia both have feminists, but none of the feminists in either country want equality here.
/r/MensRights21/06/25 03:33 PM
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what part of his comment gave you that impression?
/r/MensRights21/06/25 01:15 PM
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He also didn't actually have any examples to back his claim up. Where are the "White knights" he's talking about? There are a small minority that push back against MRAs, but does he want to become a total echo chamber?
/r/MensRights21/06/25 01:13 PM
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it was a light-hearted joke, it's not that deep. Democrats say a lot of things that men should be upset about. This isn't one of them, stop being dramatic.
/r/MensRights21/06/25 01:11 PM
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The Warren Farrell quote that always gets twisted out of context is when talking about "no means no" and he said "Before we called it date rape, we called it exciting." Feminists twist that out of context to make it sound like he supports date rape. But remember this was over 30 years ago and back then it was common for women to say "no" when they meant "yes" because they wanted the man to push her and take her. Women themselves were the ones who thought it was exciting if a man kept pushing her…
/r/MensRights20/06/25 01:15 PM
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"We're here because too many men are dying too young from largely preventable causes," Catherine Corriveau of Movember Canada said at a news conference on Parliament Hill on Thursday. Suicide was the fourth leading cause of premature death in males after cancer, coronary heart disease and accidents. Three in four of the deaths by suicide in Canada were men, Corriveau said.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 11:10 AM
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I think they are much more rare than feminists want to admit but for the extremely few women who do that, I support it. 99% of women are sexist as fuck so I will give credit to the 1% that aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:30 AM
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yeah but the difference is other men also write shit like "we should get rid of gender roles and treat each other as equals." When have you ever seen a feminist woman say that and mean it? If you were a man you'd be banned from reddit because reddit admins are feminists so it's against the rules to talk about women the way feminists like you talk about men. Reddit admins admit that hate speech is allowed if feminists agree with the hate speech
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:24 AM
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I would love to throw away gender roles but I realize how much privilege I get from gender roles so I want to keep them most honest feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:22 AM
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If that were true then selfish players wouldn't keep getting laid. But they do, while generous inexperienced men keep being rejected. Because women don't give a shit how generous a guy is, you just care about whether other women also want to fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:22 AM
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You like to tell yourself that but actual reality disagrees. Go talk to the women who are rejecting men for being bad in bed. Look at who the men they reject are. Women aren't rejecting selfish players. They're just rejecting inexperienced men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:21 AM
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being selfish is the main cause it's not. Being inexperienced is the main cause. Which is why women reject those men: You are turned off by dating a man who isn't desired by other women. A virgin who will go down on you is inexperienced but not selfish. A player who fucks you hard but won't go down on you is experienced but selfish. We all know who most women choose. Edit: I see women on this sub complain about men judging women for their body count. Women do it too, just in the other direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:47 AM
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data Here is a survey of men and women on prostitution. Men support legalizing prostitution, 51% to only 36% against it. Women are against it 50% to 30%. That's a pretty significant gap. And the question was about whether it should be legal for the prostitute to accept money. That means even for the 30% of women who want it legalized, it includes a lot of women who support the feminist Swedish Model where it's legal for the woman to accept but still illegal for the man to pay. Speaking of the Sw…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:12 PM
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We should teach both boys and girls emotional regulation. What you need to do, especially as a Blue Pill Woman, is teach women and girls that it is wrong to reject a man who is vulnerable or otherwise exhibits "unmanly" traits (such as being less assertive, not taking initiative, showing even a hint of insecurity, etc). Women are saying they want equality and then rejecting any man who acts human around her. Then blue pill feminists blame toxic masculinity and the patriarchy and absolving women …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:46 PM
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I'm not, and have never lost a male friendship due to opening up. This. Every time I see men enforce the "man up" shit, it's meant to help the man. Usually by pointing out that if he doesn't man up, women will reject him. A man pointing out that a man should man up so women won't reject him is obviously not the same as the woman who rejects the man. This is why all the feminist bullshit where they claim talking about "toxic masculinity" is to help men is bullshit. Feminist conversations about to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:29 PM
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