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10	Can you call yourself intelligent if you can’t deduce, breakdown, and understand interpersonal dynamics? I don't think that tracks. I was in the 95th percentile plus of every standardized test I ever took, did great in school, then went on to cognitively make millions of dollars starting from scratch (no connections, first in my family to finish college, etc.). None of that makes me taller or less ugly, nor can money or applied intelligence fix it. A completely average woman has dozens or hundreds of options. I might be better than some of them, on a good day I might even be top half or top third. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 02:53 PM
–	Men who have given up on dating, why? Reddit cliche over here, bad with women and great with computers. Nobody cares about how ugly the computer programmer is. And this has been hypercharged by AI, I'm more productive than ever while putting less and less effort into my job. I'm already at the point where I could never work again and retire to Thailand, but I was born in the USA and it has a lot of things I like, the plan is to keep going until I have enough that I can never work again and remain here. It's only a matter of time and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/25 12:17 AM
–	Men who have given up on dating, why? I'm affluent but not attractive. I started with nothing, but worked hard and made millions, but with only sporadic relationships. After a dry spell, I started seeing sex workers. My only regret is that I didn't do this sooner. It's easier, I get to do what I want to do, everything is on my schedule, and I can be with a much more attractive woman than I could score organically. The kicker is that it's also cheaper than dating, the amount of money a well-off guy ends up spending on a girlfriend ad…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/25 11:41 PM
–	Why do some men use terminology towards women like they are going to war? The "average" man isn't the one driving up the body counts, it's a small percentage of men who can and do bed a lot of women. Admittedly, many more men would do this if they could. I've never blamed women for this dynamic, if that's what they want to do then that's their prerogative.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/25 11:37 PM
4	Why do some men use terminology towards women like they are going to war? I think in large part you're just seeing a difference between how men and women experience romance. The average man has to work very hard and think strategically to even have a prayer at the romance game. The average woman can sit back, passively wait for men to compete for her attention, then decide who if anybody wins her attention. It's the same reason there's deep strategic language about how to play chess, but there's not deep strategic language about how to eat a cupcake.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 02:56 PM
2	What would actually make a positive change for you men? Not outright deformed or burned, but asymmetrical, squinty eyes, big nose. Like I could spend 50 grand fixing it and my face wouldn't even be that much better. Coupled with height, I'm playing at a pretty severe disadvantage in any dating context and am always one of her least attractive options. No woman has ever appeared to disagree with this assessment, making any progress with a non-pro is long and arduous. I've kind of made peace with that and just hire pros but I wish it was safer for her …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 12:04 AM
5	What would actually make a positive change for you men? My body is in good shape at this point, but I'm only 5'6" and ugly. They don't make a gym machine that fixes your face/makes you taller and plastic surgery is a lot more limited than popular culture would lead you to believe. They also don't make clothes that help with that. Believe me, if there was something to buy to fix me, I would.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 09:25 PM
8	What would actually make a positive change for you men? Not the person you responded to, but I'm similarly situated. If you can name it, I've tried it-- gymmed up so I'm one of only the 1/3 of Americans who ISN'T overweight/obese, got some minor plastic surgeries, read some books, and then hit up every kind of event you can imagine (the apps, speed dating, matchmaking, singles mixers, meetups explicitly aimed at dating, meetups not explicitly aimed at dating, charity stuff, etc.). No woman I've approached has ever been interested and of course I've n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 07:26 PM
8	What would actually make a positive change for you men? Yeah, I didn't mean to lose the genetic lottery. But I did and romance isn't in the cards for me. I'm fortunate in other areas of life, though, and make plenty of money and it's not like I have a wife or children to spend it on, so of course sex workers of various kinds are a frequent target of my cash. It's safer for her and for me if I can simply purchase from a willing seller without any legal risk to either of us. The Zona Norte in Tijuana is great, there's no reason we couldn't do that here…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 07:23 PM
1	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks I also linked to a survey-- if you just outright ask people more men say yes to the decision tree that codes childfree. There are both more childless men than childless women and more childfree men than childfree women. I linked to both in my survey data. Yeah, I know. That was my point, which for some reason you wanted to argue with You're missing the point. A childless woman is more likely to be childfree than a childless man. But there's still more childfree men because there are many more ch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/24 02:34 PM
4	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks At least for purposes of the United States of America, 76.5% of men become fathers but 84.3% of women become mothers by the 40-49 age bracket; that will move around a bit by end of life, but not much as not many people become first time parents later in life than that: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr179.pdf I'd say that's the gold standard-- what people actually do tells you a lot more than what they say on a survey. But if you ask in a survey, you get similar results: https://journals.p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/24 03:08 AM
8	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks Average women who are putting out for a coffee have hundreds of options and most of them are more attractive than me. To the extent they want to flex their independence, they'll be doing so with a more handsome fellow than me. I've tried all that and have nothing to show for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/24 01:03 AM
7	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks I never wanted children which is part of the problem-- empirically speaking, there's a gender mismatch for both desire to become parents and who actually becomes parents. Which means women can struggle to find the right man to have children with and men can struggle to find the right woman to NOT have children with. Upshot is that men who want to be fathers and are plausibly good candidates crush it in the dating market, as do women who don't want to be mothers. The dating market power of a woma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 10:20 PM
13	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks Things work differently when you're a high earner and hence high spender. Very few women could afford to go half on my lifestyle even if they wanted to, when I've had normal relationships it always involves paying for them to also have access to the things I normally do. If I'm less flashy I don't get anywhere with women, so while I recognize that some men have price for the cup of coffee, that's not an option open to me, they're just going to pick someone hotter. If you're fortunate enough that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 10:19 PM
8	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks I’m curious what you meant by song, I am a music fanatic myself it’s also what I want to do with my life sadly, be a music artist… Oh, I was with this same girl a few times and it's not all just sex, sometimes you get to talking. She loved stage productions and wanted to see The Nutcracker but couldn't afford it on her own. I basically negotiated with her and bought us some seats in the center of the first row of the Dress Circle. Dinner and her ticket was my Christmas gift to her and she wasn't…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 08:35 PM
16	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks They might infer what I'm up to because how many rich 40+ guys are single and NOT paying for sex in one way or another? But they know nothing and I always hit up hookers at off peak times. You can get better availability and pricing on a Tuesday afternoon than a Friday night, do you know what your friends are up to on Tuesday afternoon? Probably not. On the money: I lost the genetic lottery in a lot of ways, but I got very lucky with earning potential, I earn six figures without breaking a sweat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 07:37 PM
34	Studies consistently show that women do not all perceive the same type of men as physically attractive, that a high majority of women prefer long term relationships and that a man’s social status/abilities and economic security are far more important than his looks If you're a man who can only attract women with money-- and I'm one myself-- you should strongly consider whether it makes more sense to do so the old fashioned way or to just hire pros. I've done it both ways and I find it's more efficient, fun, and even cheaper to just deal with a professional. I've started caring a lot less about the dating market since I got into the sex worker ecosystem and can have sex more or less on a whim.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 06:24 PM
6	Prostitution should be legalized I’ve heard this before. I can’t speak for other men, but the reason I’m using these services is that I can’t attract a woman in the first instance. The knowledge that hiring sex workers makes me an ineligible bachelor to large swaths of the fairer sex is like telling a quadriplegic that marijuana smoking makes them ineligible to be an astronaut. It’s true, but it’s also irrelevant because they’re not getting in the space shuttle no matter what they do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 10:10 AM
6	Prostitution should be legalized It’s like signing off that I could never find any woman who would willing to be with me. This is in fact what is happening. Women have so many options that I’ve yet to find one when I’m her best candidate. But I have money and can buy sex, hopefully from someone who loves it as a career. It’s not really what I wanted out of life, but what else are leftover men supposed to do? On a planet with 70 million more men than women, we’re inevitable. Somebody has to lose and I’m pretty sure I got one of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 09:48 AM
10	Why did so many Modern women decide they don't want kids? They (not me personally) want that person to be available to have children. A woman who already has children is much less available, if at all, to have children with. If somebody opines that there's no good jobs out there, telling them that you have a good job is non-responsive; what they meant is that they want a good job that's hiring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/24 05:39 PM
13	Why did so many Modern women decide they don't want kids? I was going to say. At least for purposes of the USA, 84.3% of women are mothers by the end of their fertile years, in contrast to only 76.5% of men. It's quite challenging to find a woman who doesn't want children; if you do, she's not single; if you do, and she's single, it's probably because she wants to be. The dating market power of childfree women is off the charts because they're so scarce, and there's 5 men for every 3 women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/24 03:50 PM
6	Question for those that "gave up." Living the cliché, nobody cares about your appearance or soft skills if you're good at programming the computer. Also at my age most people have children and I work with several people who make the same as me and support a stay at home wife + kids off the money. Of course it's plenty of money for one person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 01:10 PM
26	Question for those that "gave up." This is basically me-- after a couple decades of futility, I realized short/autistic/ugly was never going to get anywhere in the dating market. I was dealt a bad hand, then I played it badly, and now it's too late because in the 40+ dating market nearly every lady is spoken for or a single mother. Per Pew, if somebody makes it to the age of 40 having never been married, their chances of getting married are only one in four. There's nothing I can do about that, my window was barely ever open and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/24 03:55 PM
–	What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution? I'm three inches shorter than the average male, uglier, and have worse "charm school" skills. In moth other ways I'm average-ish or worse. The only edge I have over the average man is money, which isn't as helpful as you might think (obviously helps with hookers, most women aren't that mercenary). She'd have to value courage a lot. Hasn't happened yet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 06:48 PM
–	What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution? Normalization and legalization of sex work. If some men can't attract a woman organically no matter what they do, then some women willing to engage in sex work for pay and men willing to pay is a natural next best solution. Or, put another way, we're highly unlikely to be the first generation that doesn't have prostitution; let's at least make it safe and legal for all involved. Men being better friends to each other, trying new activities to grow their social skills, etc. etc. is always met wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 06:01 PM
–	You Can’t Argue your Way to Success in Dating And for the rest, making money goes a long way to compensating for lack of attractiveness Eh. Speaking as a guy who can't attract women and has money, it doesn't really make sense to use money to entice a woman into a relationship. At that point you're just hiring a hooker with extra steps and it's more efficient to just drop the pretense and hire a hooker. I've done it both ways and the outright hooker is more fun anyway.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 08:53 PM
7	A lot of men who are chronically single get immediately rejected, not ghosted after they showed their character Being shy or introverted is not being “yourself”. I assure you it is, or at least is for me. I've also tried the "fake personality" tactic, but that's impossible to keep up and I'm not a good enough actor. For some men we were just born into checkmate and it's highly unlikely a woman will ever be attracted to us. As I mentioned elsewhere in the thread, I mostly go with escorts these days. They don't care if you're shy. I encourage other men to at least try it, it's way easier to not care about h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 07:06 PM
9	A lot of men who are chronically single get immediately rejected, not ghosted after they showed their character It is kind of obvious, but a useful corrective to the deluded thinking that you should just "be yourself." This is disastrous advice for men where being "themselves" means being shy or introverted, but sometimes taken seriously.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 06:31 PM
25	A lot of men who are chronically single get immediately rejected, not ghosted after they showed their character You could argue financial success, but I'd argue that's just someone willing to put up with you for money, rather than loving and lusting after you. Fairly autistic and turned that autism into becoming a millionaire and your comment is all true. It's crazy to me that I have less SMV than some broke guy who is serving time for robbing convenience stores, but that's the reality of the situation. At a certain level of plutocratic wealth this ceases to be true, but effectively those men are just hir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 05:02 PM
0	Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago. I'm old enough to have seen the change too. It used to be possible to meet people organically and, who knows, sparks might fly. Those days are long gone, because now you're always in a shadow competition against the other thousand guys competing for her attention on her phone. Even if she's not an app right this minute, she surely knows she could summon a suitor swarm with a picture and a paragraph (paragraph optional). I might be better than some of them, on a good day I might even make top hal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 01:01 PM
–	What's your dating hot take? Something you believe from your own dating experiences that this sub would typically disagree with? Keep in mind that sex workers can see multiple people a day and also increased demand would encourage more people to enter that line of work. We're nowhere close to the point where interested workers is the problem; I'd characterize it as a buyer's market especially in off-peak times. You might have trouble finding a worker on a Friday night with no notice, but if you get a hankering on a Tuesday afternoon, you'll be able to see somebody within a few hours.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 08:31 PM
–	What's your dating hot take? Something you believe from your own dating experiences that this sub would typically disagree with? Men who can't win the dating market should just buy sex, which is probably pretty easy where you live. It's easy to care a lot less if you're having as much sex as you want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 08:20 PM
–	Is it easier in 2024 for an autistic man to make a fortune than get into a romantic relationship. I'm an autistic man who made millions of dollars. Sure enough, in tech. When I was young and broke, women wanted nothing to do with me. Now that I'm wealthy, women still want nothing to do with me; respect for keeping it real, ladies. I didn't find making money difficult, if you line up a good job and don't have a woman or children to spend money on, finances are easy. Throw some money in index funds and I became a millionaire essentially on autopilot. The good news, such as it is, is that it's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/24 05:42 PM
1	CMV: Women who proclaim "where are all the good men", "there are no good men", "I will never settle" etc are actually red flags and are the loud minority. In a world without language barriers, it's strictly a woman shortage-- every woman has a man, but the deficit guarantees that there aren't enough women. In a more complicated model where we acknowledge language, cultural, and political barriers it's more complicated, it's different but still worse for men. A surplus of men and deficit of women guarantees that there's a women deficit. To the extent barriers prevent theoretically possible couplings, then there's 65 million surplus men, then for ev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/23 04:25 AM
3	CMV: Women who proclaim "where are all the good men", "there are no good men", "I will never settle" etc are actually red flags and are the loud minority. Any article you see published about this subject will bluntly acknowledge that there aren't enough decent male partners available for straight women. What articles would those be? Every time I've seen this, it's either (i) anecdotal ("I was on fifty tinder dates and they were all trash!") or (ii) comparing American women and men populations but (a) counting all women against employed men or (b) comparing college-educated women against college-educated men, kind of fallaciously assuming every man…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/23 09:54 PM
6	Do you think that being rich helps men in terms of dating and finding relationships etc? If so do you think this is to do with the status that comes along with it or the lifestyle and wealth? By most standards, I'm a rich man and single. Six figure income, net worth in the millions, I have no plausible way to spend all the money I earn. Obviously it helps with hiring sex workers. It does no help at all with real relationships, because most women aren't that mercenary. A woman might spurn a man she was otherwise interested in if she finds out he's broke, but if she's decided she's not interested in a man, the revelation that he's worth millions won't change her mind. So not having mon…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 04:40 AM
1	The only reason women have the extreme upper hand in dating is because men are way hornier; simple supply and demand. Nope. Quartz article discussing, but the data ultimately comes from the World Bank. Men on earth now outnumber women by 66 million (qz.com) The media will occasionally run "man shortage" articles. But they're always either a) comparing all women to employed men or b) considering only people with college degrees. Single men are inevitable because there's a massive amount of surplus men on the planet. If they were their own state, they'd be even more populous than California. If they were their ow…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/23 02:50 PM
–	As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you? Did you install Tinder and what was your swipe right rate? I strongly suspect that unless you live in a nuclear silo, you could have 40 matches within a week now, let alone at your prime.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 04:17 PM
–	As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you? I've never seen a woman with fewer than 40 options. I've seen a woman decline that many options and declare that they don't "count" based on her extensive list of demands. That's her right, but what's happening here is that men are interested in her and she's not interested back. On the opposite side, the men she's spurning have literally no women interested in them. They're both single, but for opposite reasons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 04:15 PM
–	As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you? Yeah, it's really sad. I know literal dozens of girls who are either single and actively dating because they can't find good partners, or at an actual lack of potential dates because the men around are just so... Disgusting to be around. So it's not an actual lack of options, it's that they're spurning their potential suitors because they've deemed them not good enough or disgusting. That's of course their absolute prerogative, but there's nothing I can do about this. The spurning judgment is br…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 04:14 PM
3	The only reason women have the extreme upper hand in dating is because men are way hornier; simple supply and demand. There's also ~70 million fewer women on the planet than men. There is a man for every woman and most of them have multiple options. There's not a woman for every man. Some men are going to lose for the same reason somebody is going to lose each round of musical chairs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 04:10 PM
8	As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you? Man you men only go for the absolute hottest women (absolutely you are doing this if the women you date off of there have 40 men thirsting after her). Thats your problem This is a fundamental misunderstanding of OLD. Every woman has 40 men thirsting after her. 40 is probably on the lowside, perhaps what would happen for a woman living in a truly desolate area. If she's willing to entertain one option, you must be her top option. If she's willing to entertain two options, you must be one of her t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/23 04:18 AM
14	How hard do you think it actually is to date as a heterosexual man. you still have to put in basically all the effort to attract / get dates. Seeing the inside of a woman's tinder inbox is eye-opening. You might be in the top half or even the top third or top ten percent. Doesn't matter. If she's only willing to entertain one option at a time, then you have to be her top option, if she's willing to entertain three you have to be in her top three, etc. A merely average man is never going to be a woman's best option. Especially considering she doesn't have to make…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/23 02:01 AM
18	How hard do you think it actually is to date as a heterosexual man. The average woman is attractive, IMO, so that's not necessarily a mismatch.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/23 01:58 AM
2	CMV: Older child free men are rarely miserable. The romance implications are unavoidable-- there's many more childfree men than childfree women, so some childfree men are going to miss out on a relationship. I appear to be on the losing side of that. Other than that, though, life is great-- no stress, I easily stay in shape, I make more money than I know what to do with, good social circle, tons of fine dining/travel, hire a sex worker whenever the whim strikes, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/23 04:14 PM
1	It is hard for wealthy and successful men to find good women for love and marriage Thanks, I will definitely consider that if I can find an open relationship woman interested in me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 02:42 PM
1	It is hard for wealthy and successful men to find good women for love and marriage True, but per the CDC, "In 2015–2019, 84.3% of (women) aged 40–49 had ever had a biological child. Among men, 76.5% of those aged 40–49 had ever had a child." Now, granted, those are American statistics but I'm an American and there's no reason to think other countries have substantially different figures. And some of those "childless" men probably do have children they don't know about, but that makes them childless for purposes of the dating market. So the 15% of women who DON'T have a baby by…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 02:27 PM
2	It is hard for wealthy and successful men to find good women for love and marriage I save a ton but I also spend a ton-- I work with many people who raise a family (spouse + 2-4 kids) on what I earn, so of course it's playing on easy mode to spend that much money on one person. I have a large three bedroom house, one I use as an office, one I sleep in, and one is now a guest bedroom but can become "her" remote office if there's ever a her in the picture. I'm frequently at fine dining restaurants or events and the gender ratio is actually pretty good, from a male perspective. T…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 11:56 PM
0	It is hard for wealthy and successful men to find good women for love and marriage It depends but probably not. I'm 40, so I'm reaching the point where people around my age have the kids out of the house (if they started early). That's potentially workable if little Maddie and Hunter are off to college so she's basically a free woman and we can fly to Paris for a week on a whim. I've had bad experiences with this in the past, though, because by the time a woman gets the last kid out of the house, her first one is about to make her a grandmother. At which point, she becomes fre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 07:35 PM
1	It is hard for wealthy and successful men to find good women for love and marriage Built in activity companion and life partner would be great regardless of children. Short term is fine too if that's what happens. But even for short term dating, this is a challenge. Childfree women have a full dance card if they want one, mothers have too many obligations to be feasible partners, childless women who want children someday are looking for the father of their children and generally won't entertain being with a childfree man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 06:42 PM
2	It is hard for wealthy and successful men to find good women for love and marriage My problem is related but distinct. I'm childfree both for selfish and pragmatic reasons. There's a massive mismatch between childfree men and childfree women, with childfree women being extremely rare, so they can basically demand whatever they want and probably get it. She doesn't have to settle for rich, she can have rich and handsome, their market power is insane, even moreso than the regular dating market. Which is funny when you consider that all a woman has to do to be in that position is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 05:51 PM
19	It is hard for wealthy and successful men to find good women for love and marriage When I was ugly and broke, women weren't interested in me. Now that I'm ugly and rich, women still aren't interested in me. Respect for keeping it real, ladies. A woman might stop being interested in a man because he's broke-- most women aren't looking for a man to take care of. But most aren't mercenary enough to spend their life with a man solely for money and, if they are, they're better off being one of many women supported by an ultra-rich man rather than some guy who's "just" a millionaire…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 04:37 PM
1	How do you treat telemarketers when they call you or DM you? I actually see both sides of this-- in my professional life I'm successful and have to constantly dodge recruiter calls. I'm happy with my job and hoping to never change, which makes recruiters a nuisance. "I have to dodge people trying to place me in six figure opportunities" sounds like a strange whine, but it's true. In my romantic life it's the other thing, and I totally get it from the lady's perspective. Even if she's single at the moment, she gets a lot of offers and I'm probably among th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 07:07 PM
17	Escorts and strip club should be normalized for people who have no other options This is the correct take, you're paying for a service. The waitress doesn't care about you either, but will make chit chat as part of the performance. I'm pro sex worker and hire them myself, and I don't understand guys who get mad at them for doing the thing they're paid to do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/23 05:17 PM
0	Escorts and strip club should be normalized for people who have no other options Not the person you're person you're responding to, but I'm 40 and in the same boat. There are literally more men on this planet than women and for the childfree, the men vastly outnumber the women. Somebody has to lose, there's a man for every woman, but there's not a woman for every man. We're unlikely to persuade people to just go their whole lives without any form of physical intimacy, so that leaves sex workers as really the only option.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/23 05:16 PM
11	Why do men not like women "settling" for them if they are doing the same thing? I can't speak for other men, but: I'm 40 and this doesn't sound depressing, this sounds realistic as time marches on. The best-case scenario is settling for somebody who's settling for me. And that's the best-case scenario, things get worse from there. If there's women out there ready to settle, then I can't wait to meet them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/23 09:02 PM
0	Men are far more accepting of neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating That's fair, and I partake myself. Enforcement is light, which is good, but the notional prohibition creates headaches for both buyers and sellers. In the event of a scam or violence, an escort has basically no recourse, which naturally makes her more cautious. The caution turns into headaches and expense for the buyers. Both parties would be better off if going in to buy sex was as risky as going in to buy a haircut, but for the most part we don't live in that world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/23 01:36 PM
3	Men are far more accepting of neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating Legalization and regulation of prostitution. Men who have no prospect of natural sex or romance can at least hire a professional. Either the Nevada or Amsterdam model would be great, but most of the world has banned this. So the transactions occur on the black market, making it riskier for both buyer and seller.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/23 02:57 PM
2	[Wall Street Journal] Dating Apps Put a Hefty Price Tag on Finding Love [x-post from /r/Economics] “I realized that in the few months of checking who liked me, I maybe only matched with five of the guys,” said Evalen. So she got a flood of interest, only liked five of the guys, and none of it went anywhere. Even assuming good faith on the part of Tinder here, I'm really not sure what they can even offer her. Either she's interested in the guys that are interested in her or she isn't. Sounds like she isn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/23 11:53 PM
13	[Wall Street Journal] Dating Apps Put a Hefty Price Tag on Finding Love [x-post from /r/Economics] is examining user interest in a plan for Tinder nearing $500 a month. Who is this for? If you're willing to spend $500 a month on a 'plan' that by its nature guarantees nothing in particular, just think of it as the hooker budget and buy sex as you want it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/23 11:50 PM
1	Question for Red Pillers It persuaded me to just see hookers instead. Even if it works, it's far more effort than actually just being good at my career and earning the money to buy sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/23 07:48 PM
5	Women are more logical with relationships, men are more emotional Women by necessity have to filter and select-- they can't say yes to every suitor, otherwise they would do nothing but go on dates and have sex constantly, then they'd still have an overflow. Obviously they have other dreams and goals, hence they have to be highly selective. They don't select their suitors randomly, they select their top options. Even if they're amenable to seeing four guys at a time, it's not four random guys, it's the four options that she thinks are the best in her candidate …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/23 03:11 AM
4	There are no benefits to having kids as a women I'm not here to change your view. As a childfree man, I would be delighted if more women agreed with this viewpoint. Alas, it's the other thing, the revealed preference shows that women are for more enthusiastic about children than men. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr179.pdf For women aged 15–49 in 2015–2019, the probability of having had a birth was 11% by age 18, 64% by age 30, and 82% by age 40 (Figure 3). For men, the probability of having fathered a child was 3% by age 18, 47% by ag…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/23 02:15 AM
–	How are men supposed to meet women? I asked myself the same questions. Then I started seeing sex workers. I feel much better these days. If you can afford it, then I highly recommend it-- still haven't found a relationship but I care a lot less. If it's just recreation before a relationship then great, if it's the choice between sex workers or nothing then might as well get started with the sex workers now. Deep breaths, she's a professional and you're not the ugliest guy who ever hired her (probably). There's a whole online ecosy…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/23 03:33 PM
5	If a man struggles with dating, romance, or sex, why is the default assumption that he is misogynistic or at least has problematic views on women, and that he doesn't see women as people? This doesn't help-- a woman born today will never be age-appropriate for me. We're ~70 million short just in aggregate and the childfree niche is even worse. Surplus men are inevitable with the current demographics and it's never going to get better for people who are already adults. By the time the situation improves, I'll be dead. Something similar happened after the World Wars in reverse, enough men died that lots of women had to figure out what their life looked like without a man in it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/23 06:38 PM
3	If a man struggles with dating, romance, or sex, why is the default assumption that he is misogynistic or at least has problematic views on women, and that he doesn't see women as people? What do you mean just a girl? Like, you don't care about her personality, morals, values? I can only speak for myself, but I'm short and childfree. There is a massive shortage of childfree women-- 85% of American women have a baby by 40 but only 75% of men. The very common preference for height and the childfree thing means I can't afford to be picky about a third thing. So basically yeah, if it's possible to even find an unattached childfree woman I have to seriously consider it as a possibilit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/23 06:31 PM
1	Does paying women for sex automatically make me a “misogynist”? I can cook for myself too, but sometimes I'll pay a professional who can do a better job than I can and head to a restaurant. Pretty much the same thing, especially seeing the same lady a few times so she knows what I like. It's very difficult to simulate a talented woman giving a blowjob, you basically need a talented woman giving a blowjob. Aftercare is similarly impossible to simulate, sometimes I'll spend the tail end laying on my back with her laying on her side, one of her arms wrapped aro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/23 12:02 AM
2	Are some people fine with going without love or a long term relationship? There are some aro/ace (aromantic/asexual) people out there. I am so extremely jealous, my life would be much easier if I had no desire for a lady in my life. Obviously, they have no need to pop into this subreddit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/23 01:14 AM
3	What is an "below average" man ? how do these men differ from average men? Yeah, I'm aware, I'm just fortunate to not be in that position. I have a good remote job and nothing really to spend all the money on. So I can't attract a woman, but I can hire a sex worker whenever the mood strikes. Really not sure what I would do if I was ugly AND broke.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/23 10:07 PM
13	What is an "below average" man ? how do these men differ from average men? Phew, thank god I'm not poor, came close to running the table there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/23 09:58 PM
3	Does paying women for sex automatically make me a “misogynist”? I'm not saying he should give up and I was older than that when I did (about 35). But I am saying if he does give up, I understand it. And that if he does get in a relationship, he shouldn't lie to her, but he also doesn't have to tell her everything. Something like, "I've only had a couple of relationships, a lot of one night stands, and I'd like to get serious with you" would be the truth even if it's an incomplete truth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/23 04:53 PM
-1	Does paying women for sex automatically make me a “misogynist”? many women don’t want a man who sleeps with prostitutes. I question whether a guy has to disclose this, any more than a woman must disclose every previous sexual partner she's ever had. But OP is going to prostitutes because women don't want him anyway, so even if this is both a mandatory disclosure and a red line, it doesn't matter; he has nothing to lose. What's more, he's already done it, so if it's a red line for a woman then it doesn't matter because it's already too late. As someone in the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/23 04:42 PM
5	Does paying women for sex automatically make me a “misogynist”? But I just can't wrap my head around having sex with someone who doesn't mutually desire you. I believe sex is 50% receiving pleasure and 50% giving pleasure to your sexual partner. Sure, I would rather have a loving relationship than a string of prostitutes. I would also rather be the Chief Engineer on the Starship Enterprise than have my current job, but that's not happening either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/23 04:39 PM
11	Dating apps are not designed for women Yeah, this is one of the things that makes dating apps so futile for average or worse men. If a woman is serious about a relationship and willing to settle for average or worse, then she can easily do so. Much like the winning powerball ticket, somebody has to win, but it probably won't be you. The women left are either not serious or holding out for better. Or, put another way, if a woman spurns a thousand suitors because they're all mediocre, there's not much point in being suitor 1,001. She's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/23 04:12 PM