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Field Report4everrekt/r/TheRedPill23/07/20 05:25 PM
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Question For Women4everrekt/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 02:49 PM
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If your emotions will be used against you, it’s better to act without
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:34 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:02 PM
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Something else has taken priority for her, leave it be
/r/TheRedPill06/10/22 04:23 PM
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Women are the ones choosing, why would they act differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:33 PM
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I think I understand, and you’re right, didn’t occur to me at all
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:02 AM
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Garbage post. Men would prefer to fuck 20 year olds. Trying to maintain something with someone who really doesn’t relate to you, which is typically the case with a large age gap, is torture of a different kind
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:17 PM
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I think when people do that they are correlating some aspect of the interest that “lends” itself to promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:41 PM
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Relatable, though I will mention that not needing to ask for help turns very quickly to not being able to ask for help
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:12 PM
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You’ll get better and more consistent results being the fun guy that people like being around. Sooner or later said man would have to transition that interaction to somewhere where sex can happen, and that is exceedingly difficult to do that with a sober, mentally healthy woman if there hasn’t been sufficient trust/rapport built. Realistically, volume and logistics pose greater challenges than physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:50 PM
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Till death do us part
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:40 AM
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Simple. Men tend to view sex as a reward, women tend not to. For an average woman, a guy who isn’t worth investing into long term but is moderately attractive is a disposable dildo. The guy she would want a relationship with (which she truly values) would see prolly her as easy if she smashed the first night, so she “can’t” sleep with him immediately. Men tend not to have the same set of experiences or values, so they can’t relate nor can they empathize. They tend to write it off as women being …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:57 PM
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Jumped on the thread to suck yourself off, love it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:35 PM
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This is whiny af
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 09:53 PM
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People bash Pete Davidson for his looks, while also disregarding how he can literally change people’s mood at will, which ultimately has a greater impact on a man’s ability to make and maintain relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:22 PM
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None of those things build rapport with men, they are all self focused
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:32 AM
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Late answer, but in short, listening. I only go places where it’s possible to have a conversation. When I get there, I either politick with people I know (host if possible), or the first person I meet. In that initial conversation, they key is building rapport by listening. They’ll say something, I’ll repeat the sentiment and they’ll elaborate, going into more detail, making the conversation more meaningful. At some point, people in earshot find ways to interject or join our conversation as it g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:26 AM
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Ask her do to things. Ask her out on a date, if the date is going well, ask her back to yours. If ol girl is interested in you, she’ll make sure she has the opportunity to be around you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:14 PM
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There are settings to disable friend requests from people who are out of your network, and also to filter messages from those same people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:12 PM
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Yeah, with this the more you push, the more resistance you’ll get, we can’t reason with people who are that emotional. Conversely, what may be effective is making him look like a pussy in front of her. Dude’s gotta be insecure about something and getting a whiff of that weakness will degrade the image of him in her mind. If you could somehow plant a seed of doubt in her mind, her neuroticism will likely take care of the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 09:02 PM
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Make your attention the most valuable that it possibly could be, make it worth a lot. If it’s demonstrably valuable, many women will throw pussy at you because they think it’s their best chance at getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 06:29 PM
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Definitely sounds like a you thing here. More specifically, the fake tits girl satisfies your hedonistic tendencies more and currently you value sexual gratification more than emotional connection, which is fine. As your situations progress, you may notice that the fake tits girl just becomes too much of a headache to deal with and start to value what the bookish girl offers more. For me, after having a girl that was devoted to me and my cause, it would be difficult to enjoy being around a girl …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 02:29 PM
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I argue niche. It’d be in his best interest to be with a girl that is compatible with him specifically, which require he figures out who he as a unique individual is. If he were generic, he’d be easily replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:46 PM
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I'd have to hear both of them talk first, but from your cursory description, left. Two things I didn't see mentioned here: 1. Who has time to have their brains fucked out daily, practically speaking? 2. Which one is likely to be less of a headache during the long term?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:25 PM
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A two parent household (along with a supportive network of friends and family) is the best for raising kids. I wouldn't recommend getting in bed with the state though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:03 PM
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Agreed, thankfully we can now see how acerbic some women can be
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:27 PM
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Ah yes. Let me, a human being, proudly reduce the value of my entire gender to a series of holes. Goofy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:00 PM
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I don’t think they care too much, associating with a loser is a liability for women (for people in general). Online, really all you have to go off of is looks, which is a domain that women dominate. Through OLD, you can’t really evaluate a man based on his vocal tonality, eye contact, or body language, which are arguably the best tools in a man’s arsenal for attracting women in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 08:40 AM
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You don’t, but I’ve observed that promiscuity and impulsiveness are positively correlated, so look out for impulsive behavior. Also, you can be on the lookout for the girl’s level of tolerance for that behavior. You could mention a story about how a friend of yours did something slutty, but in a neutral way. Inevitably when Ol girl shares her opinion, you’ll get a sense of what she does and doesn’t deem acceptable behavior. A girl that’s more sexually conservative is likely to indicate disgust/r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:29 AM
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Rip engineering majors
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 08:52 PM
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You didn’t lose anything. “A prospective client cancelled a meeting with me and is now upset that I am trying to complete a project with a client that is more serious.” Do you see how goofy the above sounds?
/r/TheRedPill24/09/21 08:16 PM
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There’s an element of mutual necessity when people are working toward something bigger than themselves. I imagine that’s different that needing someone for survival. To your point, when a woman wants you bad enough, it tends to be expressed as need anyway, that’s the underlying point of “genuine burning desire”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 12:49 PM
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Haven't seen this point raised yet: you're evaluating the quality of someone else's life by metrics that you value. In this case, it'd essentially be like being jealous of a prostitute. There's an abundance of men willing to trade their time, energy, attention, resources for a chance to fuck her. Not bc they want to get to know her, know bc they want to listen/understand/relate to her, not bc they care about her goals/dreams/life story, but bc they want something to fuck on. A lot of these girls…
/r/TheRedPill02/09/21 12:35 PM
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If a guy had said this, I’d call him a loser, what a pathetic mindset. If you want to implement the life that you designed for yourself, you must better yourself. Guys who “self improve” solely to get puss lack principle, are unworthy of respect/admiration, and that’s a big reason why women don’t like them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:02 PM
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First, don’t do anything that you don’t feel comfortable doing. I wouldn’t recommend telling a guy you’re a virgin. In the future, what you can do is try to ask questions that are open ended, and look for the traits responsibility and/or foresight. Questions around career goal, relationship with younger siblings, team activities, or any ones that require working well with someone else typically give a good indication of that person’s values, and you can see if they align with yours before procee…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 12:54 PM
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Very little time. Casual sex is similar to fast food in that, while it may be enjoyable in the moment, you end up feeling empty afterwards. After having enough McDonald’s, a home cooked meal becomes a lot more appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 01:06 PM
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In general, I think the answer boils down to the woman being generally pleasant to be around, which depends on what the man values. Most men tend to value loyalty, agreeableness. In terms of looks, I personally would say slim and a nice smile. If we’re talking about being with someone long term, you’d want to make sure that you can work well with them, that you values are compatible, and that you both are effective at conflict resolution and communication
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:37 PM
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A man has to know his woman like a salesman knows his customer
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:27 PM
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I would pull back and allocate more time to my goals. Like, what possible positive outcome would her actions result in? I think it’s likely that you haven’t properly communicated your standards and boundaries. Either that or your values are misaligned with hers. If you were esteemed in her eyes, she would be trying with all her effort to keep you and wouldn’t do anything to jeopardize your relationship/bond. The fact that she feels comfortable bringing up another guy to you indicates either she’…
/r/TheRedPill25/08/21 11:25 AM
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I lean towards 2 and 8, mostly because 2 has been true for me in some way at various points in my life and I have experienced 8 multiple times. A big issue imo is that the average man doesn’t have goals/purpose. If they had something specific to focus on and work towards, they’d only consider people/activities/things that could help them in pursuit of that goal. Since they don’t, they typically don’t have standards and will accept anything, driving down the value of male attention significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:40 PM
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If it’s cold approach vs OLD, cold approach is better imo for an average guy bc you can leverage aspects of personality and build rapport easier in person. Like in sales though, a personal referral is best for conversion. If you can’t get that, taking advantage of the mere exposure affect is a good strategy, which I would argue is easier in person. Realistically OLD is digital cold approaching imo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 09:49 PM
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Goofy advice. Instead of designing a life based on your values and desired outcomes, nah bbygirl, ride the CC.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:00 PM
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Finding is for the seekers, I don’t advocate snooping. By the time you have to snoop, you should be planning an exit strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 01:00 AM
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Stop the cap, 1/3 of women admitted to going on foodie dates. And that’s only the ones that admit it. That is the main contention. If 80%+ were straight up with their intentions, it’d be less of an issue. But that’s not how the game go baybeeeee
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 11:06 AM
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Not an effective strategy. In this case, the guy would be yet to develop rapport/bonds with any of the women, he’ll still be some rando to them. Also, the women would be able to tell by the way the escort and the guy interact with each other. It’ll be clear that there’s no rapport/bond there, and in all likelihood, it would’ve been the potential for emotional connection that would’ve galvanized the woman to action. It’d be easier to figure out which men in the environment are movers/shakers ad p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 11:02 AM
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Just bc they can doesn’t mean they do. Unfortunately, it seems to be the case that if the typical woman found you desirable, she’d be trying to have you for herself. If a woman wanted to, she could introduce herself to a woman you were interested in, and after bonding/building rapport, she could say, “Hey, you should meet my friend, x!” That personal referral would be way more effective than any game the guy could run. So why is it the case that instead of playing an active role, some of these f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 10:54 AM
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Promiscuity portends impulsiveness, which is a quality I’d want to avoid in an LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 02:36 PM
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I don’t think so. For most women, rapport would still have to be built, likely from common interests/values. This video highlights a woman successfully getting to the Awareness step in the AIDA funnel. I, D, and A are still to be attained. In practical terms, the creator would have to build rapport, set a date, hope the girl doesn’t flake, etc in order to progress things. Given the creator is a stranger at that point, if she were to try to set a date, any random event in the other girl’s life wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:49 AM
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Almost daily
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:13 AM
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IME, women display tremendous attention to detail. If your girl holds you in high regard, she learns you, what you like/dislike, what your interests are, what your goals are, and they typically act on that information, IME. Second, women tend to be better socially calibrated than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:11 PM
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The optimist, she likely comes with a “can do” attitude, which makes me think that we can work well together long term. The pessimist sounds like a pain to be around imo I actually know a girl that reminds me of the pessimist, almost to the T. not someone I wanted to spend an extended amount of time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:08 PM
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Nah, not accurate. If you’re a guy and ugly, you can get women by being funny or being rich. If you’re an ugly woman, gg no re mami, it’s gonna be tough out there. Side note: a lot of “ugly” dudes are ugly bc they don’t present themselves well. They don’t wear clothes that fit, colors that complement their skin tone, don’t have good hygiene/grooming, and don’t have a good physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:03 PM
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Sure. If 80%+ of women were up front and straightforward about their intentions, this would be a non-issue. However, since 1/3 women admit to going out with men they were not interested in for a free meal, men have developed a sort of counter strategy against that. Also, generally if a woman had a "genuine, burning desire" for a man, he wouldn't need to take her on a date in the first place. When women are really into you, they make it easy for you. The men you are disagreeing with have personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:28 PM
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Simple. Conflict resolution is generally easier with men than it is with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:46 PM
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OP wants both parties to experience difficulties in dating, essentially to know how it feels. Inaccurate. Direct quote from OP, "The men who embrace this competition, regardless of how fair or unfair it might be, inevitably become better men. Competition among men leads them to become more ambitious, passionate, and fun to be around... I think if women were forced to compete like men they would become much better people." Imo it is better to eliminate the difficulties as much as possible Fantasy…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:18 PM
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Doesn’t sound like you’re disagreeing with OP tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:49 PM
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For most men, sex is the thing that is most scarce, so it’s the thing that is focused on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:47 PM
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What benefit would it bring to a man to do that? I personally wouldn't think it's okay, if any of my 4 wives were to try that shit, I'd divorce them immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:52 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:22 AM
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Where do you think that apprehensiveness stems from?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:17 AM
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Agreed, that's a very good point. My assumption was that men were setting their own standards, similar to your second paragraph, though in hindsight u realize that may have been errant/unclear on my part
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:40 AM
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Isn't it accurate to say that these men should set and strive toward their own standard of achievement?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:34 AM
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IDK about that one chief. I'd argue the cause of the self esteem issues is not getting the outcomes that they want/think they should have. Men should strive to be their best, reasonably speaking. You can be average if you want, but when average constitutes being overweight and living paycheck to paycheck, I'm not sure that's something to be content with
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:28 AM
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"badly boy" usually translates to to some guy that's assertive. Assertiveness will be perennially attractive in men, generally speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:40 AM
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Keep your head up, just try to look approachable be pleasant to be around and you’ll be fine. Social media is a facade, I promise you don’t want to compete with the young women bc what you’d win is not something you’d want in all honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 09:50 PM
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Not true, a man’s problems can be solved by becoming a winner. Women by comparison are trying to find the winning lottery ticket. When you play the passive role, many times you’re selecting the default option, which is undoubtedly not the optimal option. I would argue it’s better to be in the active role. Also, the paragraph on the expectations of men gave me a visceral twinge of disgust from how pathetic it sounds. As a man, you should be determining how your life is going to play out, independ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 09:40 PM
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Men shouldn’t be responding, too many men give attention to these goofy women as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 09:16 PM
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Casual sex has diminishing returns, really not worth it if you have something else worthy of giving your time/attention to. Not sure what is beta about starting a family if that is what you want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:02 PM
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Horniness overpowers pride in men 9/10 times, so I don’t think men en mass are refusing to date down. I think men typically have higher standards when they gain viable options and have to choose between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:52 AM
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The penultimate sentence seems to be an example of the last sentence, would you mind clarifying?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 08:22 PM
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I’d learn to speak well, particularly focusing on being charismatic and making an emotional connection with my audience. I’d then try to find an environment where I could interact with my target demo, like a church if I was going for black women, a Zumba class if I were targeting Latinas, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:13 PM
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Yeah, it's nice. I have an active enough life to not really notice, so I think content is a good word. The only real time I would consider myself “happy” at not being an LTR is seeing some guy going through it with his gf,
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:05 PM
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Not being considered desirable hurts the ego too much. Like it or not, many women feel judged on their looks before other things, and if you're an ugly woman, your self esteem takes a big hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:26 PM
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Based response. Something to note is that previously the roster of candidates was relatively finite, whereas in recent times, female mate selection has become an instance of the Secretary Problem, which has its own drawbacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 12:19 PM
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Those are good questions, and you may be expecting a logical/rational answer, but rationality stops at arousal in my observations. Men are quite capable of loving their wives and have sex with other women. Not hurting feelings does enters the equation, otherwise the men would openly cheat and not try to cover tracks. For the record, I don't support cheating bc I think it's weak and also unnecessary. From my observations, the act itself isn't the worst part for women. However, lying about it, bre…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 11:50 PM
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Disagree, the guys who get less affection typically aren't esteemed (from the wife's POV), so their wives do not respect them and treat them accordingly. Priorities for women change as women age, as they should. For the men in these situations, it seems like they do not prioritize having a wife that respects them or one that is pleasant to be around, or otherwise are conditioned to just deal with the disrespect. It's for that reason that levels 1-5 of the 12 levels of dread center around getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:00 PM
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Nah, most of their userbase just wants a guy they can respect/admire and that is looking out for them. Unfortunately many of the people giving advice are bitter, undesirable individuals. I will agree that if someone embodies their rhetoric literally, they will attract men who are easily manipulated. In some ways, FDS draws parallels to TRP and this realization has compelled me to re-evaluate some of my beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 09:46 PM
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We have a couple beds open at the nunnery
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 09:40 PM
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I think looks and lifestyle are the “bait” that women and men use respectively. In either case, you would have to have a level of compatibility for that relationship to work long term. The sentence in bold is a little dehumanizing imo. When you’re in a fulfilling relationship, the other party tends to “learn” you over time. They develop a sense for what you like, what may make your life better/easier, and they’ll try to add value if they can. Also, not sure if women have a similar experience, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 09:30 PM
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I’d argue it makes more sense to cheat. Why would I leave my wife, who I am more compatible with overall, for a woman with whom my only interest is sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 09:19 PM
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Jokes aside, I agree with the commenter above. Women want the best they can get, as they should imo. If you’re a guy and you’re not striving to be your best, the last thing you should be doing is focusing on women. That’ll bring you a whole lot of stress that you really don’t need and are likely not prepared to deal with. What’s unfortunate is men not valuing themselves enough and trying to validate their worth through external means.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 09:15 PM
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I'm not sure if there is a study, or if a study is needed. Typically, something else becomes more of a priority. It could be a critical period in work/hobbies, they may be going through a bout of depression, or may have found another option they want to explore, while not outright rejecting you. Also, while this may not be applicable for your case, guys can go for months or years without communicating and still be on good terms with each other. Maybe that’s why they think nothing happened. Somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 09:00 PM
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I see what you're saying and am inclined to agree. Having done some retouching in the past and being conflicted on what is and isn't ethical, the guidance given is to remove distractions, but keep in features characteristic to the subject. While I appreciate that there's more brands deciding not to airbrush, I understand that if an A/B test were run with a non-retouched photo and a retouched one, the the retouched ones are probably more likely to drive sales. The exceptions I've found are when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:41 PM
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One of those is basically a necessity. The other just has Bluetooth
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:32 PM
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If you're a US woman that is in shape, you're automatically at least a 7
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:29 PM
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I think so. From my observations, ads that are highly sexual typically are marketed toward men. Also from my observations, ads effective with women feature products/service that help the woman fit in with other women/a trend or to help the woman stand out and be "better" in some way
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:27 PM
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I think we're better as friends
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:17 PM
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The short answer is feelz. Possible scenarios for this “archetype”: guy has her mind/emotions in a vice (similar to the plot of Casino) that guy may be the only one taking her seriously and she doesn’t wanna look low value by being alone, especially if she’s feeling pressure from her social circle she may have legit abandonment issues and picked a guy she knew wouldn’t leave she has convinced herself that she should be trying out the guy with the “good heart” or similar she may be unaware of her…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/21 08:16 PM
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You mean to tell me Axe Desire won't get me big tiddy goth gfs 🥵?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 04:25 PM
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Depends on what metric is being used. If you're dummy rich, time becomes more important than money by a long shot. If the goal is to bang as many good looking young women as you can in the shortest amount of time, the sugar daddy is winning. If the goal is to find a girl who "likes you for you", the sugar daddy route doesn't seem to be the best choice
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:15 PM
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To answer the question in your title, yes they are imo. It's a waste of time to argue, and they typically aren't debating, they're arguing. I'd say that many men who consider themselves RP haven't gone through the 5 stages of grief and are operating off of emotion. It's really cathartic to tell someone off. Also, it's common to hear "facts don't care about your feelings." IME, if you're a guy arguing with a girl, her feelings definitely don't give a fuck about your facts haha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:09 PM
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There’s not enough info to tell, and in reality it doesn’t really matter tbh. She’s making an emotional and likely irrational decision.
/r/askTRP20/06/21 01:51 PM
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Valid, though they tend to just switch strategies rather than giving up trying to pursue women. The latter gets into the mgtow category. Some might say that PUA was a precursor to TRP, mgtow, black pill, etc. It really was influential and an interesting aspect of online “culture” Edit: For example, PUA tactics center around the concept of DHV. Whether you’re negging or hitting the gym or flashing money, each of those is an attempted DHV
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:56 PM
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Organizations tend to work better when people play their roles. In relationships, each party gets to determine their role. Typically things work when each plays their role to the best of their ability and adequately meets the expectations of that role. I think the premise is flawed in your post, it’d be like saying swing dancing radicalizes people bc men typically lead and women typically follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:51 PM
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You’re right boss. There’s only toxicity on TRP, and there is absolutely no analogue on FDS
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:45 PM
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They might say they want husbands, but it’s questionable if their actions support that. Qualities and characteristics that may incent a reasonable man to invest in them are labeled “pick me”. To be fair, you can say the same about TRP labelling taking care of your girl as “simping”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 02:23 PM
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People tend to value things more when they have to work for it. As a guy, imo, your most valuable resource is your time/attention. If you’re giving that away freely, it’s likely not valuable. Most of the time, when a resource becomes scarce, it automatically becomes more valuable and consequently more “worthy” of being pursued. In a completely oversimplified sense, that’s why pulling back tends to be effective on women. Not all, but a significant portion. Most of the time, I think this is uncons…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:48 PM
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Inaccurate, there will always be a demand for strategies on getting women. The name may change, but the concept will remain for eternity
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:28 PM
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Everybody wanna be Theon, but deep down we know we’re Reek 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:43 PM
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What comes easy is not valuable in most cases. Even with the rampant sex going on in the gay community, it doesn't compare to the magnitude of options that women have without even trying. In addition, women have more to lose when sex gets involved. In addition to the risk of disease, the risk of pregnancy is still present. This has been the case for millennia, the last 60y have been a blip in human history. Also, especially now, if you slutshame gay people, you'll be labelled homophobic and canc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:24 PM
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90% of guys are trustfulness most man are no rapist or hit women. So mentioning that first is dishonest. Inaccurate. While most men are not rapists nor abusers, most men (most people) are opportunistically exploitative. In other words, they are very willing to give you a bad deal if it means that they can get what they want from you (puss) in the short term. Is this someone that you trust to be looking out for you? You primary must "admire" them, means he has to have a combinatino of outearning …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 03:07 PM
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IME, knowing, liking and trusting comprise a significant portion of that emotional connection. Trust is probably the biggest concern, there has to be a sufficient level of safety/security for them to feel comfortable around you. Being liked comes down to developing rapport. IME, the woman has to respect you, and it typically helps it they admire some characteristic/trait/attribute of yours. The knowing part is interesting. Obviously they have to know enough about you to have something to admire,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 03:30 AM
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Damn, imagine someone competitive hating losing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 02:58 AM
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This is an interesting take. Specifically, when a woman is asked on a date by a man, a lot of the time, she has no real investment in that man. That is to say, she doesn’t really know him, like him, or trust him at a high level. That being said, the date is often used as a chance for the guy to build rapport and to get some level of investment from that girl. If the girl has still has low level of investment after the date, why would she come out them pockets? Them paying is a pretty clear indic…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:32 PM
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The Muslim, Mormon, and Mennonite communities would like to have a word with you. Besides, who's actually asking for that? Most men don't require the woman be a virgin, most men just ask that she not be a ho. Now what that means is up to interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:37 PM
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Apparently afternoon in Australian slang
/r/askTRP07/06/21 12:06 PM
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Who let Rolf in here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:15 AM
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You seem like a rational individual, however women tend to be very emotionally driven. The main thing that you have to offer is your presence, which is hampered by distance. As great of a relationship as you may have, not being able to be physically next to you is something that will chip away at her. The feeling of trust and security that comes from an embrace with someone they respect and admire is an irreplaceable feeling, and is something they will inevitably long for. There are plenty of wo…
/r/askTRP06/06/21 03:27 PM
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Earning potential is not the only thing that counts, I agree with you there. That being said, earning enough to be able to afford a comfortable lifestyle is likely the biggest stressor in the lives of most people. All I’m saying to is that saying women are “more educated” isn’t informative enough imo, and is not something I would use when making an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:48 PM
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The more educated part is always interesting to me, I don’t think that statement is informative enough. Like, I’d rather be the engineer with a BS than a PhD in some social science, given the difference in earning potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:35 PM
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Nah, but if you’re a woman who is using OLD, it makes more sense to opt for a site where your matches can provide a better lifestyle, instead of tinder which is full of losers that want to use you like a semen receptacle. Regarding why young men would go for sugaring, I could see it being a timesaver. Regular dating is time intensive and if you’re the average guy, probably low ROI. If you worked in tech and made $100/hr, it may make sense to just shell out the dough. For some reason, sugar babie…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:23 PM
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This sounds like an optimization for the short term. Long term, any self-respecting individual would abandon you if you're insufferable to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 12:56 PM
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Breh, you will continue to feel this for as long as you have your self worth tied up with women. Focus on what you want to do with your life, Independent of anybody else, and optimize for those goals. You’re feeling disappointed bc you did all this “self improvement”, a bunch of superficial work to impress some superficial bitches, and then are surprised when said superficial bitches don’t amount to anything of substance.
/r/askTRP04/06/21 01:32 AM
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This is inaccurate. If someone were to charge 1K/hr for a consultation and was trying to build a stream of long term clients, there is absolutely incentive to be telling the truth, specifically if they were trying to attract clients that could afford that. Also, you don’t seem to be refuting any arguments he’s made. If it’s the truth, it shouldn’t matter who says it. Also, that first sentence makes assumptions that are unsubstantiated. The first 3y of content was directed to men’s self improveme…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:59 PM
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Interesting take. If we were able to aggregate the "average" set of standards into objective metrics, let's say the 3 6's, we could quantify the percentage of men that meet those standards. For example, only ~1.5% of US men are 6ft+ and make over 6 figures. Is it realistic for a woman in the 50th percentile to expect a committed monogamous relationship with a man in the 98th percentile? You sound great from your description, and theoretically should have no issue attracting the men you find comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 12:20 PM
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Inaccurate, there are plenty of women with reasonable standards IRL. It's only the crazies that stick out online. Only about 7% of US women use OLD, most meet men through their social circles. I wouldn't even call them standards, because those women cannot enforce those standards for a relationship in all likelihood. Ofc the SJW landwhale wants the 3 6's. In what world is she gonna lock that down though? The options aspect is overblown. Yes, women have an infinite number of men willing to use th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 05:02 PM
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Plus I still don’t even think the comparison makes sense. Literally if I wanted to get a free meal every night this week I could do that without having sex once. If you wanted to have sex every night this week without taking a woman on a date I doubt you could do it as much. That is correct, they are competing goals. You could max out on investment with little sex given. You are also correct that it would be difficult for me to do so. This doesn't refute what I was saying though. Majority of wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:50 PM
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It's not a surprise, most men aren't giving an incentive for women to want to associate with them, speaking from experience having been one of those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:34 PM
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Disagree. If you're a guy with standards, you're vetting women to see if they're compatible with you. If you're putting women on a pedestal, you're communicating that they are inherently better than you. This is a mistake for many reasons, one of which is that it creates pressure for the woman to live up to an expectation that she can't hope to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:31 PM
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This is a concern for men with low self worth. You have to understand who you are as a man, and what you offer. If you legitimately are "that dude", the woman would be dumb af to leave. Men who put pussy on a pedestal are willing to compromise their principles for something that every woman has. It's pathetic and repulsive, because they have such little self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:27 PM
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Haha, not that different. At the outset, our short term strategies are not necessarily cooperative yet, for various reasons. If I can get dem cheeks without having to take you on a date, that’s what I’ll try to do. Similarly, if you’re not necessarily sold on me, but still want the experience of going out on a date, that’s what you would try to do. This is where the game begins
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:39 PM
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You’re talking about a situation wherein a set of conditions has already been satisfied, I’m speaking in general. Men suffering from porn addiction at a higher rate than women are, and women suffering from social media addiction at a higher rate than men indicates that the sexes assign different values to sex and attention. A canonical case of women trying to get investment without giving up dat ass is the 1/3 of women that admit to going on dates just to get free food. You’re essentially saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 11:23 AM
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If I was ghosting, I wouldn’t want the person I was ghosting to start sporadically showing up in my life. I read some of your other comments where you referenced the guy’s father dying. I thought this was info that should have been included in the post. Losing your dad as a guy is potentially devastating, and I could imagine that other things in his life would be deprioritized as a result. Idk how old you are OP, but “casually (read planned) showing up at a place to get a guy’s attention” seems …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 11:08 AM
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Sure they can, women are just more selective with having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 10:55 AM
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If you’re talking about trading sex for attention, they are adversarial goals. For guy, get max sex with min investment. For women, get max attention with min sex given
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:05 PM
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You’re right boss
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:53 PM
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I get what you're saying, I'm saying that they make sacrifices that stunt their relationships with their family, which I'd argue is more important. Imagine missing key developmental aspects in your kid's life because you're busy making some corporation rich. Married or not, husband keeps the career he likes I think it is interesting you used that phrasing. The majority of men (and women) work jobs that they absolutely do not like, to be able to make sure their family's needs are met. Women are p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:27 PM
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There’s more eligible women than there are eligible men, defined by what each sex finds desirable in the other. There’s significantly more young, good-looking, and cooperative women than there are financially solvent and responsible men. You’re saying that the average 32yo woman would consider starting a family with the average 25yo man? Stop the cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:53 PM
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I agree with what you said, but none of it is refuting my comment. The commenter above me made it seem as if men don't have to make sacrifices, which I considered errant. Imo, a man shouldn't be thinking of starting a family if he isn't stable enough be able to do the things you mention.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:59 PM
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Less options than who?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:50 PM
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I'd argue the guy is remarkable in some way, he'll get attention
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:25 PM
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This is probably true. There’s a saying that goes “the odds are good, but the goods are odd” If you’re a man that wants a family and wants to thoroughly vet a woman before marriage, it makes sense to go for a younger woman
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:15 PM
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Men don’t have to choose between career and family? Traditionally men have sacrificed family time in order to be able to provide for the family. It’s very common for people to resent their fathers for not being around enough when they were growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:08 PM
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Omega neg, bold strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:03 PM
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While I see what you’re saying, your comment reveals that in general, women are the sexual selectors
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 12:58 PM
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I asked if you could substantiate that claim, which you haven’t. Your perception is likely skewed. I could understand if you were saying that elite choreographers or performers, which may disproportionately fit that stereotype, but if you’d drop into an intermediate bachata class for example, you’d see your claim is incorrect. Many women consider dancing foreplay
/r/askTRP30/05/21 01:32 PM
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Congratulations on med school. You’re becoming a winner, everyone wants to be around winners, try not to be jaded.
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 01:01 PM
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Can you substantiate that claim? It doesn’t seem to hold true when considering partner dances.
/r/askTRP30/05/21 11:02 AM
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No need for the hostility, it's a separation of concerns
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:40 AM
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As you get older, peace of mind becomes more of a priority. The pussy ain’t worth the headache
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 09:37 PM
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Doubt, status is more difficult to replace than looks are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 09:46 AM
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Cheeky Nando’s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:30 PM
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People pursue that which is valuable. She would only be pursuing your attention if it was worth something, and this is gonna sound harsh, but it’s probably not. The reason I say this is bc if it were the case that you were focusing on your goals and making your life better, ol girl would’ve came correct bc she would know your attention and time are scarce, and thus, valuable. Invest time in yourself man, get really good at something, become reasonably well respected and admired for that thing, a…
/r/askTRP19/05/21 03:52 PM
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You've already lost bruv. She is not attracted to you, she only told you those niceties so that you don't flip out on her and/or damage her reputation. You wouldn't be dominating anything, you would be mate guarding. She's told you directly that she doesn't want you and you're on here talking about your "connection." Move on man, even if you were somehow able to steal her back, your relationship would fall apart, bc she won't be able to be with a man who doesn't respect himself enough to leave w…
/r/askTRP19/05/21 03:01 PM
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Disagree, I think it's interesting that you describe it as being forced into boxes, instead of as "being allowed to specialized in specific traits." For the most part, humans are sexually dimorphic, i.e., complementary. Would it make sense to remove the concepts of masculinity and feminity in whole, which are mostly guidelines, at the risk of the people in relationships becoming redundant? Even in homosexual relationships, there's typically someone who is top more often than not (gay), or someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 01:56 PM
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You don't think assortative mating by caste would account for that? As in, if you're a woman in Viasya, you can't reasonably expect to be matched with a man from Brahmin, since the man's family would be actively opposing that union and also actively trying to find suitable women from Brahmin.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 01:34 PM
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Obviously. The issue is when there’s a blurry line between what is creepy/not creepy or okay/not okay. For example, one woman may reject you at first to see if you’ll “try harder”, whereas for another the first no is an actual no. The issue is that you don’t know which is which bc one frequently looks like the other
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:59 PM
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I’m saying
/r/askTRP18/05/21 10:36 AM
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I don’t understand this post. Ol girl is putting in 15 hours of drudgery every other day, presumably to be able to afford to live, and you’re worried about getting your dick sucked lmao. She has no incentive to be fucking you bruv.
/r/askTRP18/05/21 02:00 AM
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Bc they don’t have to. How clear did you make your expectations?
/r/askTRP18/05/21 01:33 AM
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Leave on read or tell her to come over. I’d vote for the first
/r/askTRP18/05/21 01:32 AM
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Do you mind elaborating? You have an actual teammate working together with you toward shared goals. How could this be improved?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 11:18 PM
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Yes, absolutely. I also encourage every strong independent woman who don’t need no man to do the same, and broadcast it so that everyone around them knows they’re HVW.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 08:07 PM
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Leave on read, it’s not worth replying to. As an aside, her ego+neuroticism May make her do some irrational and childish things, but you have better things to do than to worry about some goofy girl
/r/askTRP16/05/21 12:22 AM
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The Bible as it was written Which one of the hundreds of English versions are you referring to? Proverbs 27:15-16 15 A nagging wife is like the dripping of a leaky roof in a rainstorm. 16 Stopping her is like trying to stop the wind. It’s like trying to grab olive oil with your hand. Tell me that's not based af, maybe I'm misinterpreting the message there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 12:09 AM
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Agreed. I specified the Bible instead of Christianity bc I thought the same as you. Sone would say the books encapsulate the teachings of a religion, but the differences in implementation between Christianity in the West and other regions proves that not to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:43 PM
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Personally, I think I’d be more equipped to deal with the issues that arise when dealing with sons more than I’d be equipped to handle the issues that arise when raising daughters. For example, I would argue that not fitting in with the group is a bigger deal to teen girls than it is to teen boys on average. I’m confident that I could get my son to leave a toxic social circle, but I fear that trying to convince my teen daughter to do that would be ineffective. Even more, I fear that wanting to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 04:40 PM
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The Bible is redpilled af, especially Proverbs. Islam is a tradcon man’s dream
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 04:21 PM
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Some people are upset about being evaluated on a metric they don’t possess. Not sure about having money being an attractive feature, moreso being able to provide an enjoyable lifestyle. Many of those rich nerds are unattractive bc they approach situations with women as if the women were prostitutes. Essentially, “I have money, you should want me.” You can ask the same question about men being upset that being physically fit is an attractive feature, and it could be answered with the same opening…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:59 PM
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Women’s preferences for men seem to follow a Pareto distribution, based on the various okc and tinder studies. I think what’s not being discussed enough is the influence of the environment on women’s evaluation of men. The context under which women are approached is just as important as the approach when talking about effectiveness. You can be fat, bald, broke, and ugly, but if you’re “the man” in a particular environment, you’re getting women. Regarding how difficult it is: In a social setting,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:52 PM
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Most people care about things that can benefit them. I don’t think those men see a woman’s career as something that benefits men in and of itself. You broke down why certain professional women may attract certain men, mostly because of the traits those women would possess. It’s the traits that are important, not necessarily the career. The career is an avenue for those traits to be expressed. If the woman can express those traits via different avenues, her job title may be moot. I would imagine …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:26 PM
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Sons are seen as easier to raise
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:57 PM
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This is a question that has been asked since Marcus Aurelius was the emperor of Rome, and it’s a topic he discusses frequently in Meditations. Basically, because they don’t know any better, if they knew better, they’d do better. However, their choice of actions are independent from your character
/r/askTRP09/05/21 10:40 AM
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Not enough context to know, doesn’t make too much difference either way. Maybe they have boyfriends
/r/askTRP09/05/21 02:27 AM
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There are women use so much makeup that they are unrecognizable when the makeup is removed, and no one wants to be deceived. if we as a society have made these demands of women Who makes these demands? Is it men that are setting these standards, or is it women that identify and then subscribe to a trend set by other women? There’s a trend developing where some women will wear large and obviously fake eyelashes, or have these impractically long acrylic nails, and I’m wondering which council of me…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:18 PM
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I agree, although I'd add thst just because he has a plan for himself, it doesn't mean he has a plan for me. I love this reply, it was the one I was baiting you into. With all due respect, I think this is indicative of either not knowing how men typically operate, or only dealing with a certain demographic of men (LVM as FDS would say). To use an economics analogy, a woman who understands what I am trying to do and can contribute to it is an asset, and as a reasonable individual, it would behoov…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:07 AM
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Talk to em, OP. Shout out to you for keeping it real
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:32 AM
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Relationships are transactional. The only reason two people would associate with one another is if they have incentive to do so. Despite all the flowery language in your post, you would still desire someone who brings value to your life. A continual exchange of value is what keeps relationships, both in business and in personal dealings, together. Some snippets I would like to respond to: Looking for a partner, whether for an LTR or a fling, is akin to shopping. For women, it is. For men, initia…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:19 AM
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In my experience: For NSA: I’m above average in looks for my area (tall, in shape, well groomed, well dressed), and I’m funny. For medium-long term: They like the direction I’m going in and would like to come along. Most of these women I meet through hobbies, and as we build rapport over a period of weeks/months, I think they start picturing themselves as a part of my life. By the time I finish verifying we’re compatible to some degree, they’re typically okay with me inviting myself over to thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 02:18 AM
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Nah bro, if you knew how some of these chicks get down, you’d think twice about it. A girl was telling me about sometimes when girls get cream pied and even after doing all they could to get the cum out, a day or so later, a bit of it starts leaking out. With it being more common now for women to be dating multiple dudes, I’d be wary of muff diving before being exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 01:20 AM
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Casual flex, no context. Love to see it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 06:06 PM
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Yes, absolutely. In a specific scenario, certain events do indeed happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 11:16 AM
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Yes, I agree. Generally speaking, one party makes the offer, and the other accepts/declined. In heterosexual relationships, generally speaking, the guy is the one that offers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 09:46 AM
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No disagreements here, I think the friction is commonly generated when getting into the discussion on accountability. For example, you mention the myriad of risks, but aren’t stressing that it is women who decide whether sex is happening or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 03:06 AM
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I was good friends with and FDSer, and we talked about her stance on it. She empathized with the subreddit bc to her it seemed like a bunch of women who’d been hurt before and use FDS as a defense/coping mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 02:52 AM
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I think that quote is mostly concerned about opportunity cost. For the avg guy, with the level of time and effort put in from sourcing to smashing, you’d get a better ROI doing almost anything else. An exaggeration, but after all the work to get some puss, you have nothing to show for it. I agree that if your time isn’t particularly valuable, then it’s not an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 11:24 PM
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Idk man, you say that til Big Bertha come over and put that grande WAP chafupa on you
/r/askTRP04/05/21 09:57 PM
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The universe is indifferent. Set some independent goals for yourself, you curb this feeling by winning.
/r/askTRP04/05/21 09:30 PM
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Shout out to you for knowing what you want. I don't agree with the second thing you said, but we may be thinking about it from different angles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 01:15 PM
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I don't think that is accurate, I think women typically are more into commitment, and tend to be more selective as a result. The men you're referencing are committing out of necessity. If they could maintain a harem, they definitely would.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 11:13 AM
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That line sounds like a joke tbh, with the humor coming from its absurdity
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 01:43 AM
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An analogy: imagine being a business man. You want to get into business selling a product or service. Like a reasonable individual, you survey your target demographic, really getting to know the problems that they’re facing, and what they would want/desire. You make sure that you get a good understanding, do the R&D, come up with a solution and a marketing strategy centered around what your target demo says they want. Lo and behold, them MFs don’t buy 😂 Seeing an account of men’s experiences wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 06:49 PM
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If you knew the answer, why did you ask? I mention lifting because it's fundamental and is often a catalyst for more positive change. The physical benefits are obvious, and there are mental benefits as well. I'm being brief out of respect for your time. I'm not sure why you're approaching this as adversarial, I'm presenting the perspective that explains a phenomenon that you've observed. You're talking past me and arguing against points I didn't make.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 06:55 PM
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I’m not sure that’s accurate, I’d be more inclined to agree with it being for men in general however
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 02:07 PM
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They should have kept it player. 1st case: If he was an "alpha", he wouldn't have to say it. He's not alpha, he's a shitty salesman, tryna convert a sale on something that nobody wants to buy. 2nd case: Imma keep it a stack, I agree with the sentiment of his first paragraph, but there’s no need to say it. Personally I would’ve ghosted, but because the girl and I are probably not compatible. If he did that, either the girl would come around or leave him alone. Instead, he’s being shared in the gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 02:00 PM
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To answer your first question, "yeah". It's one of the reasons lifting is (was?) emphasized so heavily. Re: your second question: For some reason, men who are drawn to TRP tend to go through the stages of grief, without fail. Before they get on the forum, they're in Denial. Then they have the negatives experience(s) with a woman and after googling, they find a community of men that have been through the same thing, so it's not just them. After some period of time they realize that their upbringi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 01:40 PM
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You've had experience with a volume of women, sufficient enough to filter and select for one woman. TRP's audience is men who do not have that abundance. It'd be like saying, "money doesn't bring happiness" to someone who is living below the poverty line.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 01:24 PM
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You care too much bruv. This girl is living in your head rent free. In the last 6 months she has contributed absolutely 0 towards the goals you want to achieve, who cares what she’s doing?
/r/askTRP02/05/21 03:12 AM
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Patrice O’Neal has a funny segment titled, “If your girlfriend left you, what would you miss?” that you may want to check out. If you’re drawing blanks to that question outside of sex, you have the answer to why you may be indifferent. Would you mind elaborating on how she was proving herself as LTR worthy? Also, this girl will probably want to get back together with you, and you may have the opportunity to gain a great assistant. The point of contention between you two seems to be that she does…
/r/askTRP30/04/21 10:21 AM
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You’re preaching to the choir, I personally agree wholeheartedly with what you’re saying. That being said, I also understand that there are legitimate issues with the suggestions you give. Most notably, young people typically don’t have valuable skills that bring in $$$, and the path to success is typically ambiguous. I see what you mean, I actually wasn’t talking about OF. Good looking girls that can make it to the explore page on IG regularly get offers to get paid for pics of their feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 10:00 AM
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Some are into polyamory, most aren’t. Just after I wrote that comment, I scrolled past a relationship_advice posting where the guy couldn’t look at his gf the same after finding an old tape of her having an MMF 3way, and I think that is representative to how most men would respond. Regarding most men being monogamous: I’d say they are monogamous out of necessity, yeah. If they could have more than one woman, they would, which is why some men in the manosphere obsess over Chad and his soft harems…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 03:12 AM
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Most men are repulsed by the thought of someone else having sex with their gf
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 03:01 AM
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Disagree, a sense of community and belonging is critical for women’s happiness, IME. As men get older, peace of mind becomes a priority, which solitude provides. An issue is that hyper successful women don’t want men who they see as lesser than them. Most would love a relationship with a man they respect and admire, but their Pool is small and the kind of men they want might not want them. You’re talking down on the average Joe making 70k mid 30s. There’s plenty of women in their 20s that would …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 02:59 AM
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You could see it as sad, but there’s other valid perspectives. Why would I bust my ass working 40h/wk at some company who’d replace me in an instant, when I could instead monetize what is inherent to me (my looks), with a captive audience (horny men)? It’s hard to have sympathy when there are women making bank from pictures of their feet. These women aren’t victims, they’re businessmen, doing business
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 02:47 AM
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Billy Beta is too afraid to approach, and not secure enough to be selective
/r/askTRP29/04/21 10:22 AM
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This is gonna sound harsh, but if the man is family oriented, he’d probably prefer having kids that are his and would optimize for finding a wife that could give him children. That being said, there are men that feel that adopted children should have a loving home with a mother and a father, and would be willing to accept the arrangement that you’re proposing. Some examples: men who are sterile, men who are themselves adopted/orphans. Also, there are probably men that would prioritize their rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 01:20 AM
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Unfortunately, I think your analysis is accurate and representative of a large swath of men. Not something that has made the most sense to me. I chalk it up to immaturity because it makes more sense to prioritize a woman who makes my life easier, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 01:13 AM
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Whatever works for you is what you should do. There are points of contention that arise in cases like yours, though, typically around conflicting lifestyles. A question that Kevin Samuels likes to ask women is, “what percentage of the bills do you want to pay for a lifetime,” or, “Do you want to have to work to pay significant bills while you’re pregnant?” These tend to be eye-opening. If a woman making 100K and her lifestyle reflects it, and her bf makes 50K and his lifestyle reflects it, she w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 01:07 AM
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Feels good. Whenever you can get an established dynamic flipped in your favor, you’re in a good position. It’d be like if I was a salesman and having customers coming up to me and proactively asking me to buy my wares, or if I was at a job interview, and I was the one asking them to prove to me why I should work there. Furthermore, a woman willingly coming out them pockets is her demonstrating to that she values the relationship more than the money (or what it represents, like time, security, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:52 AM
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Interesting. The comment I initially replied to seems to indicate that women long to have someone who is genuinely interested in who they are as a person, let’s call that personality. In my experience, women tend to be open to sharing their personality freely. If I’m a guy, and 8/10 women are willing to share their personality with me, but only 2/10 (more than likely less if I’m the average guy) are willing to have sex with me, why would I not focus on getting what is more scarce to me, which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:37 AM
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These are good points. Do you think there is an analogous feature in women that is abundant?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:15 AM
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Sure it does. But sex is what’s most scarce for many men, and thus more focus is given to it. The things you mention are given to men in abundance by women who just want to be friends with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:00 AM
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There’s levels to it. I’d prefer “natural looking” to “glamour” because I find the latter garish. However, I must concede that if I saw a woman without makeup and a woman with minimal makeup, I’d probably find the one with makeup more attractive, probably because I don’t typically see women without makeup and don’t have a solid frame of reference. On the vetting aspect: I’m not sure if this is what you’re saying, but I would prefer someone authentic, as in I would like to see who she really is. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 11:57 PM
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Hmm, I think you’re telling on yourself. The average guy does not have the things you listed as standards. Most men know if you don’t pay for the first date, there most likely won’t be a second date. Similarly, most men wouldn’t dare implement a 3 date rule because they don’t have the options available to do so. If they make that ultimatum, the girl’s just gonna move on in all likelihood. Similarly, most men know that if the girl’s not happy, she’ll leave. TLDR: 8/10 men don’t have the standards…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 10:16 PM
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Men's standards boil down to: Be decent looking Be pleasant to be around. Even these are negotiable for most men. Ask a woman what her requirements for a relationship are and be ready for a laundry list. Preferences are different than standards, and you can still argue that men's set of preferences are simpler than women's set of preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:05 AM
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Follow up: how do you evaluate which advice is valid/accurate?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 08:00 PM
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Context: I think I've heard some of my female friends dating lives' and I always wonder who they're getting their advice about men from. I've heard of books like the Rules or Why Men Love Bitches, but I'm curious to hear your perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:51 PM
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Question: if you're a woman, who's giving you game on selecting men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:47 PM
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Hmm, which would I, a reasonable individual, prefer to invest in long term? A woman who is an asset and is trying to add value to my life, or a woman who is adding unnecessary complexity with little tangible benefits? Hmm 🤔 Jokes aside, I think the "chasing what you can't have" phenomenon is more common with younger and/or les mature/experienced men. It gets tiring after a while, and hard to justify. That being said, the response depends on the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:42 PM
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Interesting. I’m glad that you find that fulfilling. I wanted to clarify which women weren’t putting themselves first and how. Doesn’t have to be super in depth either, just want to clarify
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 02:27 AM
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Elaborate on the final sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 02:06 AM
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Note that I said attractive and not necessarily good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 02:02 AM
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I disagree with the first sentence, maybe leaves the door open. Dealing with multiple women at a time comes with its share of frustrations. If someone is continually contributing to your life in a meaningful way, it makes sense to prioritize that individual. What you’re saying sounds good in theory, not sure it’s that cut and dry in practice. Typically by the time the girl’s seriously asking, “what are you looking for,” or “what are we,” they’ve already made enough of an emotional investment tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 02:00 AM
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This was an informative, balanced, and well organized reply. I like how you broke the parts down into categories, which made for a more nuanced perspective. I’m also a big fan of the self awareness at the bottom, I am glad that you included that discussion and it is clear that that you’ve done a lot of reflecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 11:22 PM
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Thank you for sharing your perspective. I find it meaningful. I’m not sure why you mention us not being compatible. Edit: I ask these questions because I think the perspective is valuable. I think there are a great many women that think some arbitrary number of dates determines the level of investment on the part of the man. I personally don’t think that is informative enough and like to allow for people to talk about why they think they way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 10:58 PM
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I think some men do. The issue arises when nuance is interpreted as disingenuousness, which happens often. That example that you give is particularly egregious and unnecessary, I agree. For the record, I agree wholeheartedly with what you’re saying. It is more polite to tell a woman that you want to be “friends first, maybe more”. However, if the girl is more relationship oriented, she may perceive this as “a relationship is on the horizon” whereas the actual intent may have been closer to “fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 10:51 PM
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This was very thorough. Question: How much do you think rejection concerns women? I would argue that for many women, being rejected would cause them to think that there may be something wrong with them personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 10:28 PM
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Sounds good, doesn’t work. If you’re not attractive, ol girl’s not gonna want to be in a relationship with you. If you were sufficiently attractive, most would have sex with you regardless of whether you’re in a relationship or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 10:20 PM
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Cap. “It just happens” is from the woman’s POV, the guy’s been plotting on that pussy for a min.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 10:18 PM
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Maybe, I think the level of bluntness and directness that men give to each other may be deemed misogynistic if directed toward a woman. It makes the “honesty” more interesting. For example: A guy may ask another guy why he is struggling with women and may be met with this response: “You’re out of shape, and you’re personality doesn’t make up for your looks.” Imagine trying to give a woman feedback that is that candid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 10:13 PM
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But it is though. We can model dating as a set of circumstances that has an end result based on the actions of decision makers. It is absolutely a woman’s prerogative to do what she wants with her own body. Question: how confident are you that your approach selects for the best partners and not the best pretenders? How would you distinguish?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:58 PM
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The main one is cooperativeness. Being supportive is great as well. “What do you want to do, and how can I help?” is a question that would serve many people well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:42 PM
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That won’t help the delusion, they’ll just think OP in particular is an asshole. I imagine it’s a clusterfuck from the woman’s perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:35 PM
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Answer to your first question: doubt it. The dating game, as you’ve identified it, is adversarial. I’m not sure if FDS’s approach is the best imo. I think it optimizes for a man that is easily manipulated. Re: the waiting game This approach is interesting. Sometimes it frames the interaction as if coochie is a prize to be won, which seems like the wrong frame if you’re optimizing for a productive and mutually beneficial relationship. What are your thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:25 PM
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This is very informative. I think that guy’s actions are grotesque as a whole, especially not being able to take rejection. Unfortunately this recounting kind of gives credence to the idea that the most effective means of sleeping with a woman is to sell them a dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:56 PM
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The Overton window is determined by a what is acceptable to a representative group of women, at least in western countries. There’s a lot of money to be made by pandering to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 07:01 PM
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Riding the unstoppable tide of Islam
/r/askTRP23/04/21 05:54 PM
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Being a strong independent woman is in vogue RN, and if you are one, you're looked at in a favorable light, bc that’s what Western society is pushing rn. Back when having a strong physique was considered strictly masculine, you wouldn’t catch most women in the gym. To this day, I know women that won’t do arms bc they think they’ll get broad shoulders like a man. I’m not sure if it’s that they enjoy being small and weak, but maybe moreso they enjoy a man that is larger and stronger than them, bc …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 02:32 PM
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I think it’s because they don’t have a strong enough “why” for being successful and independent past a certain point. If you were to ask them why they wanted to be (financially) successful, a common answer would be so they don’t have to depend on someone. If you asked why they don’t want to depend on someone, there’d be a myriad of answers, but it would essentially boil down to not wanting to risk their security to being compromised. However, if they’ve reached that 80k or whatever threshold whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:28 PM
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Yes, you have an ironclad agreement with a woman whose wants or whims will never change. She’s gonna try to wear you down. At some point she’ll be talking to her social circle and will feel some type of way about you not committing, and then exert pressure on you to commit, and one of the tactics will be to say smth like, “But I’M faithful to YOU, lifeintraining.” You asked why would she do this, ol girl thinks she’s scoring points with you and will to try to cash in later.
/r/askTRP21/04/21 01:51 AM
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She’s gonna bring that up during the What Are We speech
/r/askTRP20/04/21 09:57 PM
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Depends on what you want, but I would argue the first characteristic to vet for is cooperativeness. If they go along with your jokes/references, they open up about themselves and also take an interest in learning about you, when you suggest something you’re interested in doing, they’ll try to include themselves and suggest how they can do their part. Of course, this is all dependent on you. If you have nothing going on, you can’t expect them to want to join in on that.
/r/askTRP20/04/21 10:54 AM
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I was referencing DARE when talking to women, the absurdity in saying “bigger than yours” comes from women not having a penis :) For a guy, you can just get quiet for a bit, look at him directly, and continue talking, who cares what he has to say? Re: finding worthwhile women Join hobbies where the women have to be cooperative and competent to be successful. Examples include salsa dancing, improv comedy, rock climbing, photography, martial arts. In these, there’s typically roles that individuals…
/r/askTRP20/04/21 03:35 AM
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You can Agree/Amplify by asking yourself what is the most absurd thing you can respond at the moment. e.g.: “You have a small dick” - bigger than yours If you’re not witty, you can Deflect by just ignoring and continuing in with whatever you were talking about, Repeat whatever you said that was worthy of attention, or Exit the situation. It depends on the girl you’re dealing with. The real key is to only invest time in women that can be assets to you, women that you think may be able to act on y…
/r/askTRP20/04/21 03:14 AM
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Always DARE, never DEER.
/r/askTRP20/04/21 01:50 AM
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They’ll use whatever insecurities you have against you breh. Most guys are insecure about dick size, height, and income.
/r/askTRP19/04/21 01:45 PM
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I don’t think it’s RP specific to think women live life on ez mode when it comes to dating. That’s more of a complaint of an average guy who has no game, wanting someone else to do the difficult work for him. It’s very difficult to imagine someone turning down an opportunity for something they were actively looking for though, so I think there is info missing from your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 12:50 PM
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Check out the modest man on YouTube. Start with the minimalist shirt, pants, and shoes vids. That is a good base. There’s a webcast on dressing for your skin tone and contrast level as well. Those should be a good base, then you can start experimenting.
/r/askTRP18/04/21 03:11 PM
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I don’t know if hate is an accurate description, but it seems like the visceral responses come from men who have dealt with single moms and their experiences trigger strong emotions. The most triggering experiences tend to be: - having responsibility over a kid, but not authority over the kid - breaking up with the woman, and having to sever the bond with the kid - baby daddy drama - having low/insufficient priority in her life
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:42 AM
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I’d say the biggest thing is cooperativeness. It’s especially nice when you’re trying to complete a goal and a girl takes it upon herself to figure out what she can do to help, and do it unprompted. It makes me want to return the favor and also prioritize her needs being met.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:35 AM
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The selector will almost have higher requirements than the suitors, typically because the selector has the leverage. You can have high standards as a heterosexual man, but good luck trying to enforce them. Similar to how someone looking for a job may have preferences for their potential employers, but if the person needs a job bad enough, they’ll take what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 07:09 PM
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They will, and they have. You’d be surprised how many women would have and would tolerate tat arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 05:29 PM
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I see what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 03:58 PM
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Real men see their worth and create their worth So, they prove themselves. If they had done nothing, how would they create their worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 03:38 PM
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Is it? Most men find most women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 03:35 PM
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I’m inclined to agree with you, which is why I said it sounds good in theory. In practice, it’s not so cut and dry is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:29 AM
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Again, sounds good in theory. There’s a clip from a youtuber couple called the Ellises where they’re discussing their sexual history over the course of dating, living together, having kids, and getting married that is representative of the experience that many men have Link: https://youtu.be/NwnH17o_lQ4 As rational as your approach is, there’s no reasoning with fluctuating hormones and emotions. A common example is when antidepressants/anti anxiety meds/ hormonal birth control kill a woman’s lib…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:15 AM
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I’d argue yeah. If her fav celeb offers a chance at experiencing a coveted lifestyle, she’d be foolish not to take it. Same with an A list celeb, same with a B list celeb. Most (not necessarily all) people can be bought for a price. In other words, if the other guy is clearly a better option than her current guy, it’s a wrap. I don’t think most women would cheat though. I do think there’d be coincidentally more arguments in the relationship until they break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 12:39 AM
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I don’t think it’s inherently man hating, I think it’s realistic. The opposite is not true, a woman will be valued just for being attractive, something she got naturally. I don’t necessarily like it, but that’s the way it is. I don’t think the second paragraph is intellectually dishonest. Money is made where value is created. In the most efficient manner possible, the richer guy is more valuable. That being said, I don’t think that it is only money that bestows that value, it’s just an objective…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 12:31 AM
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Question: will that 45yo woman be more likely to respect and admire a 25yo or a 50yo? Who would it be easier for her to look up to? Older men tend to be more emotionally stable and navigate the trials and tribulations of a relationship than their younger counterparts. Would the younger guy actually make her feel younger? When she references things and he has no clue what she’s talking about, she’ll feel older. Also when they can’t come to a common understanding because of vastly different life e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 12:26 AM
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No. Men must prove themselves, as evidenced by the many male rites of passage across various cultures. There’s not a particularly good one in the US/West, so finances and ability to provide are the default. Money is a proxy for other desirable qualities in men. If you are able to significantly expand your wealth, you’re likely ambitious and/or intelligent and/or competent and/or have good social standing. Typically these aren’t characteristics that drive men’s attraction to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 12:16 AM
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Sounds good in theory. Unfortunately the way you say it as a guy and the way she’ll receive it are likely 2 different things. Your second point doesn’t account for the bait and switch. Many men experience sex frequency decreased after moving in and also after marriage. Men tend to take the direct route when problem solving. If it was that simple, we wouldn’t be having this discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 12:09 AM
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You don’t give yourself enough credit. It’s not a dumb example, it’s a pretty representative situation. I don’t agree with the flattery part, it doesn’t seem to be sustainable long term, and it doesn’t get to the core of the issue imo. Sure thing, doesn’t respond to the point I was making. Your initial comment centered around niceness and honesty, and disputing the idea that women don’t like men who are honest and nice. What I was saying is essentially that many men see being nice as being less …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 11:30 PM
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While I agree with your sentence, I’m not sure that the example you gave supports your point about niceness and honesty, and this may be a difference in the way men and women typically communicate. When it comes to honesty, many men feel as if they have to choose between being genuine and getting women. The example you gave is one in a set of many where the typical guy would feel like he has to edit himself to fit in line with what the woman would find “acceptable”. I’m not sure that that this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 02:33 PM
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I interpreted it as meaning that sex happens inside the woman’s body and/or the baby grows inside the woman’s body, and consequently bc sex is more risky for women than it is for men, women should be more selective
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 02:02 PM
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Why are you in an LTR with a woman you don’t like? Your time is valuable, you should prioritize spending it on things that enrich your life.
/r/askTRP12/04/21 11:30 AM
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Absolutely. It’s less so about the gender and more about the role that the individual plays. It’s trite to say that you should listen to the fisherman vs the fish, but in general I’d argue that there’d be better analysis from the one taking the more active role.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 01:55 PM
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You can (in)validate against your own experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 09:22 AM
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What do you mean by unintentionally approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:34 PM
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I’d be careful with that. A lot of women trickle truth when talking about negative past experiences and tend to minimize their part in creating them so they don’t look bad. Also, women are reactive compared to men, who are typically more active in the pursuit. For example, you’ll see women complaining about men continually using them for sex before ghosting, but when they go into their history of ONS, all of the stories include “it just happened”. Another scenario: say a woman has an ideal relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 07:46 PM
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Regarding empowered: over time in the west, things that were taboo for women are becoming empowering. At some point, any negative thing about a woman will be flipped as a positive and pushed out to the media as such. Reminds me of how women try/tried to reclaim the word “bitch” or “slut”. Also, shame is a big inhibitor for women. If you can market a product such that it removes negative stigma, women tend to flock to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:01 PM
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The men don’t simp this hard in places where prostitution is legal. Hard to use sex as a bargaining chip when your man can fuck a woman who looks and fucks better than you for fiddy dalla
/r/askTRP03/04/21 01:32 AM
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Interesting response. Dancing offers women plausible deniability when expressing themselves. just like on TikTok, they can thot it up under the guise of “just dancing”. Regarding being able to talk, I would argue it’s more about listening.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/21 10:32 AM
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You care too much. Relax my man, if you would do something because it’s who you are/part of your character, do it. Otherwise, don’t
/r/TheRedPill31/03/21 10:21 PM
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Not the way some men present it. They are trying to be covert and won’t be straight up, mostly to their detriment. They’ll try to pretend to be the girl’s friend and then be salty when they get friend zoned
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:54 PM
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I’m inclined to agree with you, however: - most men go about it in a roundabout way instead of being straight up, trying to friendship their way into some pussy. Are they approaching with romantic intentions, or are they primarily trying to smash? The guy knows nothing about her, so it’s doubtful that it’s the first. If it’s the latter, why would the girl be down for that? Since most men don’t have a good answer for that question, they try to be sneaky with their intentions. It’s somewhat simila…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:47 PM
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Interesting response. I think the point was to be talking to people when they are relatively idle and are open to communicate. It would seem more awkward for me to not acknowledge the other person at all, but I could see how a woman may find that situation trapping, especially when not everyone can read the room
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:36 PM
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I don’t think that comment was tinfoil hat time. Most online services that are “free” generate their revenue via ads and purchased upgrades. As a result, they are incentivized to keep their users on as long as possible, the Social Dilemma covers this in depth
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 05:04 PM
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I disagree with the second paragraph, it’s not considered weird to cold approach. The weirdness comes in when someone approaches with an ulterior motive. In addition, I don’t think women as a whole like or prefer online, specifically bc of the logistical issues it presents. First, regardless of filtering strategy, most women will still be inundated with options, and trying to sort between those options is extremely difficult. Second, say there’s some man they would find ideal, it’s likely that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 05:00 PM
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I think they mean a 9-10 has the (online) dating game on ez mode, to the point it becomes something to do as entertainment. Shout out to you btw
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 04:50 PM
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I encourage you to explore that view that you hold, and to think about why you think that. While you may see try hard, some girl out there sees them and thinks the guy is “mysterious”. Typically the main benefit from a B&W photo in general is the high contrast. Definition and smaller details pop out more, and more focus is given to the subject compared to a color photograph.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 04:45 PM
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Another commenter mentioned love languages, maybe hers is gift giving. On another note, I imagine it’s common for a woman to invest in a man she respects and admires, financially might be the easiest way for her to do so. Women who are really into men tend to enjoy doing things for those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:26 PM
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You probably want to get off dating apps OP. It doesn’t really make sense for a thoroughly solid guy to be on dating apps. While I personally consider the behavior you pointed out as excessive and grotesque, it is also polarizing. Fortunately you were able to find that you weren’t compatible with these men during the first date, rather than investing months into a guy that’s pretending to be a certain way so you’ll sleep with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:00 PM
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I see what you’re saying about the cherry picked studies. I think what ends up being more compelling are the accounts of the bad experiences that the men have had. Many of them are relatable to many men, and it’s like, “if so many men are facing the same issues, it can’t just be me.” I think effectiveness depends on the expected outcome, which for TRP seems to be getting more women. I would argue implementing RP is more effective toward that end than men’s default strategy, which is simping. Tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:28 PM
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Maybe. Most men who find RP found it after a bad experience with women and after reading page after page of the forum, they realize that they’ve been misled their entire life about how women actually are. They then go through the stages of grief, and some men never make it out the anger phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:42 PM
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The point was that trying to give pussy right away to lock down a highly desirable guy is naive and ineffective. If you’re a girl and try that, whats to stop you from getting pumped and dumped after giving away your biggest bargaining chip? Most women are fucking men from their social circles, and while their are plenty of women are willing to fuck on date 1/2, the vast majority of men don’t have access to these women. The “make him wait” strategy is still highly effective against most men, poin…
/r/askTRP21/03/21 11:30 PM
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Re relationships: “Haven’t seen the need”, “I’m extremely selective”, “It doesn’t align with my goals” Re sex: You could frame it as wanting to resist temptation and how it’s hard but you’re strong blah blah, some will try to fuck you just bc they see it as a challenge
/r/askTRP21/03/21 10:18 PM
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I don’t think so, that strategy would be naive. It makes more sense to withhold sex to get the guy to invest more and build a bond before having sex. If she fucks him before building that bond, she’s lost leverage and there’s little incentive for the guy to continue getting to know her. Plus, every girl has a vagina, what would stop that guy from abandoning her if someone else offered to fuck him
/r/askTRP21/03/21 09:14 PM
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Maybe you care too much. You gave a good description of you and her, but didn’t really describe your relationship. Her fucking you, bragging to friends, showing off on IG, and being submissive are likely inherent to her personality. They’re easy things to do for a woman, what would be different is if you had her working and doing things for you to stay in your good graces. That level of effort and investment would be harder to walk away from.
/r/askTRP21/03/21 09:08 PM
3

Yeah, there’s 3x as many men as women on apps. The women you’re swiping on probably don’t even see you being inundated with so many other men. Nothing comes free, either approach women IRL where you have the best chance statistically, or deal with the reality of getting piss poor results from a method that is so easy that every man can do it
/r/askTRP20/03/21 05:54 PM
1

It’s not that hard to imagine. If you intern at a DoD contractor, your coworkers are likely to all be 40+ married with kids. Similar in the finance field
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 02:23 AM
1

Interesting perspective. It would seem difficult for this to occur on a “massive” scale bc they’re aren’t enough men that are “worth” being in a harem for. However, women sharing men does seem to be common, especially when you’re considering non-western societies. I think something that is overlooked is the necessity of that kind of arrangement and the role of the man in that arrangement. Chad maintaining a harem of concubines for sexual pleasure is a fantasy for the average American male. In so…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 01:29 AM
3

Optimal depends on what your personal goals are. FWIW, stoicism is more likely to help during hard times.
/r/askTRP09/02/21 07:16 PM
1

You’d cover all 4 by prioritizing your goals (independent of your gf). For any action, asking “does this bring me closer to my personal goals” helps a lot. You’re going on a journey, and she’s along for the ride so long as she’s bringing something to the table.
/r/askTRP09/02/21 04:15 PM
1

Reading your reply, I wasn’t able to get a clear answer on what you’re looking for. How do you think your perspective will impact your relationships moving forward?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 01:26 AM
7

Exceptions don’t make the rule. That kind of rationale allows unhealthy individuals to feel justified in their unhealthy habits. There’s undoubtedly some guy out there absolutely decimating a lunch buffet of a couple thousand kcals , who thinks it’s not that bad bc he’s doing it only every so often. Besides, Michael Phelps eats like 6000 a day.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/21 02:15 PM
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OP’s audience is not a forum of serious athletes, he’s speaking to the average joe, who is likely consuming many unnecessary cals and too much processed sugar.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/21 02:06 PM
1

She’s trying to get you to believe that she is one thing, when in reality she’s something else. The reason we say to watch actions and not words is bc they’ll tell you one thing, and do something contrary.
/r/askTRP06/02/21 11:31 PM
2

Easy answer: TRP doesn’t inherently benefit women, and typically people don’t support something that doesn’t benefit them. OTOH, it is very likely for a man to post defending TRP, bc it’s a strategy that benefits men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 03:43 PM
1

I understand that, I was using the subjunctive mood to explore a hypothesis. Your second sentence said not make reponses personal, so I thought it would be be understood that I was using the generic “you”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 03:35 PM
5

I disagree, feeling threatened by TRP is similar to being wary of a religion. An analogy: If you were a woman, it’d make sense to be wary of Islam, after getting a glimpse of sharia law. In countries that practice it, may seem like women are being treated like second class citizens, and who would sign up for that? However, there’ll be people that say, “But that’s not true Islam, the people who do that are not Muslims.” To the individuals implementing that practice, they absolutely are Muslims pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 02:48 PM
1

I understand what you’re saying, but it doesn’t answer the question. A woman with long, wavy hair cuts it very short or bald. Generally speaking, is she considered more or less attractive? While there are individuals that prefer shorter hair, the vast majority of people find the longer, more wavy hair more attractive. When a company is trying to sell a product/service and feature a woman in the ad, 9.5/10 they choose a woman with long, wavy hair. If you’re a woman, who is most likely highly exte…
/r/askTRP06/02/21 02:31 PM
1

But she has. Ol girl is living rent free in your mind. They love attention, and you’re spending your day overthinking about her, so much so that you’re asking randos on the internet if you doing something you wanted to do was the right move. What do you want out of your interactions? Why do you care about a spark of mystery, if you’re getting what you want? What does that do for you? The mindset you’re operating under is a mindset similar to the boxers that were wrecked by Mike Tyson in his prim…
/r/askTRP06/02/21 01:57 PM
1

She was definitely lying, what she was saying just didn’t add up. Not sure about the rest, it’s moot to me
/r/askTRP06/02/21 03:05 AM
18

Birds of a feather flock together. If you LTR that girl, she’s liable to act just like that friend. She’s distancing herself from that woman and disapproves of what her “best friend” is doing? She sends you a pic of them in lingerie together? Breh, if the girl you’re talking to really disapproved of that woman, you’d be able to sense a visceral level of disgust when your girl talks about her. This girl is running game on you
/r/askTRP05/02/21 11:50 PM
2

Is she doing the things that you want her to do? If so, what is the issue?
/r/askTRP05/02/21 11:06 PM
8

More precise question: If you’re a woman, and you have the awareness to know that a lot of the time you’re judged heavily on appearance, how would cutting your hair benefit you?
/r/askTRP05/02/21 10:56 PM
1

They'll always say/do things to make themselves appear more valuable to others around them. I had a girl who worked try to tell me she met Leo DiCaprio and that he didn’t impress her. This same girl works a minimum wage job and doesn’t plan out life past the next month. Either there's some guy she actually finds desirable and she hopes that guy sees that and treats her better, or she’s trying to flex on other women who are in her social media circle, or she’s saying/writing it as a coping mechan…
/r/askTRP05/02/21 07:50 PM
2

Give her something to do that requires focus. You can literally just peel items off your to do list, say that it's important to get them done, and ask if she wants to help. If she says agrees, you have a new assistant that talks less. If she balks, you can excuse yourself to finish those errands yourself.
/r/askTRP04/02/21 10:42 PM
1

Ah, I see. I misinterpreted the paragraph started with "And so" to be making a legitimate recommendation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:38 AM
3

A weak man is a liability to a woman. The inherent disgust your friend felt towards a man she deemed weak is a feature, not a bug. The advice you're giving sounds good in theory, but doesn't work in practice, generally speaking. Pragmatic advice for men would be to see reality for what it is, focus on the things in one's control, and approach situations trying to get the best reasonable outcome given the constraints. Say these women were to exist, why would you want them around as a guy? If I’m …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:29 AM
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(Using “you” in the general sense) Idk if disgusted is the word I’d use. To be honest though, it doesn’t seem to be productive to share problems with someone who can’t help you solve them. How’s she gonna help you with your emotional turmoil when she can barely make peace with her own? Your male friends, who are more likely to face similar issues, can better help you with that endeavor. Conventionally, as a guy, you’re supposed to be her rock. When things go awry, you’re supposed to figure out w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 03:26 AM
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If it crossed a boundary for you, you did what you thought was appropriate. That being said, if your gf is attractive, it’s guaranteed that she will have multiple orbiters. If you’re willing to fill the role that those orbiters play, such that she doesn’t need/want them, have at it.
/r/askTRP01/02/21 03:23 PM
1

May you clarify who you were trying to reply to?
/r/askTRP24/01/21 08:10 PM
2

Nobody’s telling them otherwise, and who would be there to do so?
/r/askTRP24/01/21 07:03 PM
2

Just leave her alone. She’s no longer supporting your goals, there’s no reason to speak to her. Most people live lives that are extremely boring. When she fails to find a replacement for the feels you gave her, she’ll be back to get another hit of dopamine. If you noticed, she’s also telling on herself. The fact that she continues to remark on your maturity and mindset indicates she doesn’t experience that in her everyday life, which is interesting. She dates and interacts with men her age and o…
/r/askTRP24/01/21 12:27 PM
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Neither of those will stop her.
/r/askTRP23/01/21 10:59 AM
1

wgtow represent
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 12:06 AM
2

Bro, there’s more to life than women. Worry about yourself and getting your life back on track, take a break and really enjoy your life independently. You got bait and switched by a likely bipolar woman who you met on a dating app (if she’s a great girl, she’d be getting approached irl, pandemic or not). Be glad that she left when she did, that kind of girl would’ve brought you more misery the more you spent time with her. Good pussy really do break a nigga
/r/askTRP22/01/21 02:25 AM
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You’d get better answers with a more specific question. Are women attracted to older men? Depends on how much older. When I was a freshman, there were freshmen women going for senior guys, when I was a senior women were going for guys in college. I could imagine that that trend continues after college as well. Specifically a guy who’s further along can “provide” a better lifestyle than a guy their own age, and I think that is a compelling factor. If I’m a 19yo woman, I’m choosing to hang out wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 12:00 AM
1

I don’t think I’d want women’s sexuality to be like men’s. Maybe in the past, but it would be bc I didn’t match their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 10:53 PM
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Depends on how you go about it. I wouldn’t use the words that the above commenter used, but the principle is the same. Essentially “<x behavior> is a dealbreaker for me, you can do it if you want, just not in a relationship with me.” You can go the u/DerekMorganBAU route by saying, “You’re talking to Chuck? Is that what we’re doing now? Aight.” Or you could imply that <behavior not conducive to a functional relationship> lowers her value in some way. For example, when you learn about Chuck, you …
/r/askTRP20/01/21 02:39 PM
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To add: a lot of the time, when you verbalize the reason, you give them ammo to drag you into an argument.
/r/askTRP20/01/21 02:27 PM
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Anger phase, it’ll pass. It’ll take a while to internalize, but once you understand how and why they play the game, you’ll spend less time being angry and more time maneuvering effectively. There’s no need to be upset at the women, they’re likely a product of the environment. The reason you’re upset is bc you (like many of us) felt like you were lied to about how women operate. You thought that if you did that romcom shit, they’d like you (“bitches love romcoms, so lemme do that, and boom, now I…
/r/askTRP20/01/21 11:19 AM
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It’s the environment. You’re not gonna meet a girl that spends her weekend nights reading at home, partly because they’re not on the scene on the weekends, they’re at home reading.
/r/askTRP19/01/21 02:12 PM
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So much cap in this thread. When I saw the video “women react to ripped men”, I deadass was in the gym 5x/wk, so probably like 50%. I think validation seeking behavior is very intrinsic to human beings. Over time the source of validation is likely to change though. For example, accomplishing some task after 3 months of toil and getting to look back and see how far you’ve come is a feeling that nobody else can give you. I imagine chasing that feeling is what people mean when they say they “do it …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 04:39 PM
3

The relationship is coming to an end. Be stoic and think about what you have really “lost”. An ungrateful woman who will likely bring you misery if you choose to stay. When you break up with her, be vague. “This just isn’t working for me,” or “I’m just not feeling it,” suffice. She’ll likely bring up the height thing (prolly as an insult, since you breaking up with her injures her by implying there’s something wrong with her). When she does, be empathetic. While height isn’t an issue for you, ma…
/r/askTRP17/01/21 01:28 PM
1

Fair enough, though there is a difference between codependence and interdependence
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 08:23 PM
1

Example of women being respectful, curious, and empathy towards men? Latin American and Eastern European culture. Examples of a lack of empathy from men to women? An innocuous example, OLD. Guys get triggered when a girl doesn’t respond ASAP after matching. Meanwhile, ol girl’s inbox is literally inundated with messages. In addition, say there is a particular type of guy she is interested in. Every one of those men in the dms are masquerading as that type of guy, many of whom don’t have the best…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 06:48 PM
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I wouldn’t describe you as pessimistic based on this discussion. You’re sharing legitimate concerns and considerations. Re: no reason for genders to remain: In a western society, this is accurate. While role assignment based on gender may not be optimal, at some point in the relationship, expectations should be set on each individual in order to progress effectively. If both individuals perform the same exact role, they risk redundancy and a potential lack of polarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 06:39 PM
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I think this depends on whether the individual actively chooses to play the role or is just accepting the default. The “benefit” of gender roles is that their is a clear-ish set of expectations that each member of the relationship is expected to fill. It is difficult to optimize when those expectations are not set. An analogy: in just about every partner dance, the man leads and the woman follows. As a lead, your responsibility is to keep the couple on time, and give clear signals as to what mov…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 05:49 PM
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Depends on where you go, I find that is more likely the case in the US/UK, and particularly online. IRL, outside of the university scene, I rarely run across the kind of radical feminists you see online, and if I do, you clearly see them coming. Edit: forgot to say you’re welcome. Also, to be fair, many men don’t really make an effort to empathize with what women are going through.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 05:41 PM
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Yeah, you present a representative scenario on the household chores part. Incompetence would have me worried; I think there is a legitimate difference in detail oriented-ness between men and women. I say so having to have reviewed several versions of a ppt that only differed by a couple shades of colors on the themes. I was responding mostly to the “set about solving problems” part. For some women, if you imply that it would be nice if something were done (literally as vague as that), they take …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 05:25 PM
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Re: the edit I’ve noticed something similar, and I personally appreciate it. My theory is that they recognize if they’re not bringing something to the table, they might lose a guy like you to some other woman that will, good men being hard to find and all. Either that, or it makes them feel fulfilled to do something that someone cares about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 01:17 PM
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This is interesting. Why do you think that is? As in, why do you think these women are incentivized to be in relationships with these men? It may not be financial, but surely these guys are offering something desirable to these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 11:16 AM
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Yeah, you’re right. In your situation, it doesn’t sound like you changed anything about you in order to get some girl. What happens a lot of times I think is that men will try to “buy” that affection, or “prove themselves”. Like, “If I do this, then she’ll like me,” which unfortunately doesn’t quite go so well in practice. That is how I interpreted Rene’s comment.
/r/TheRedPill13/01/21 09:02 PM
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It is forever though. You essentially had to wear ol girl down until you could convince her that you are worth fucking, when she no longer feels that way, it’s you who’ll take the L. When you take her to Ruth’s Chris, she’s head over heels, then baseline, then head over heels when you buy the new car, then baseline, then head over heels when you buy a bigger house, then baseline. During all of this, nothing about your intrinsic value has changed. You’ve been more or less the same guy, so why tf …
/r/TheRedPill13/01/21 08:49 PM
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She’s neither conservative nor religious. This woman is sexually repressed. As easy as she came, she’ll go even easier. Good luck
/r/askTRP11/01/21 11:47 PM
2

Consider the quote, “Women are human beings, men are human doings.” Pretend to be a girl and evaluate yourself through this lens: “What can f0ster91 do for me?” If you’re drawing blanks to this question, it’s likely they are as well. This is probably why you’re getting those responses. Whether they have a bf or not, if they thought their life would be better by hanging around you, they wouldn’t be able to get enough of you
/r/askTRP11/01/21 08:35 PM
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Prolly broscience, but I think this is interesting. Men are able to impregnate multiple women, and some would say their biological imperative would be to “spread their seed” and other assorted euphemisms. In contrast, women can only get pregnant by one man at a time, generally once a year. In this case, it would seem to be the case that optimizing for quality over quantity makes the most sense. I guess you could say that racking up a high number of partners would lead to a hypersensitivity towar…
/r/askTRP10/01/21 06:51 AM
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Some time ago, there was a post by LastRevision on trp regarding tinder dates. The majority of the time he just said something like, “seems like you could use come company, I’ll bring <x>,” and it tended to be effective. If she’s into you, or is bored and willing, she’ll make it that easy Edit: If not, doesn’t really matter what you say, bc it ain’t happening
/r/askTRP09/01/21 09:04 PM
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Same way as another woman. Set boundaries. If they don’t cooperate, don’t pay them an ounce of attention. It’s their biggest weakness. If you’re living at home at can’t stand the rules at your abode, move tf out, point blank. Edit: to add, don’t argue. It’s a waste of time, they won’t change their mind. Just say, “I feel you” or some other neutral comment and go about your business.
/r/askTRP09/01/21 08:12 PM
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There’s a disconnect between what women find valuable (or what he thinks they do) and what he has to offer. Not a slight against the other commenter either, just saying those Venn diagrams don’t seem to intersect all that well
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:11 PM
1

Bruv, you’re in a very good position. You have enough security to allow you the freedom to explore other options, be glad. If I were you, I’d take a dance class like swing, tango, or salsa. They’re typically honey pots and can be good learning experiences for how to be a good leader, and how to pick a good partner. Otherwise, I’d suggest looking into some hobbies that pique your interest that require collaboration amongst a group of 2+ people. In addition, I’d recommend a public speaking club. T…
/r/askTRP09/01/21 05:31 PM
0

Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 04:41 PM
1

I agree with your first sentence. Regarding the rest, I’m not sure how accurate it is. I believe if you start with the question, “What can I do for this person that they would find valuable,” you can get a lot of insight into what would constitute an “attractive personality” for a given individual. For example, many women like to dance. Most men don’t know how to dance. If you can lead a partner dance well, as in, if you can make a woman look good in front of other people, the likeliness of said…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 04:37 PM
0

Would you mind elaborating? As a guy, I’d prefer to be judged by what I can do, since I can always gain skill/experience. This is in contrast to how women are judged by their looks, which is something that fades over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:25 AM
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No worries. In general, it’s all about value to them, and unfortunately they tend to be externally validated. If you imply that it will raise their value to do <thing you believe is right> and lower their value to do <thing you believe is wrong>, you can almost predict which action they’ll take
/r/askTRP07/01/21 11:55 PM
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It was a shit test, if she thought you were by far the best option, she wouldn’t risk saying something goofy like that. Regarding how to handle it: I think Patrice O’Neal’s take on the black Phillip show sums this up nicely. If they’re threatening to leave, chase em out. I’d respond with, “I’m not sure. A lot of guys think girls with boyfriends are the easiest to sleep with, since there’s only one guy to compete with. He prolly thinks he has you in the bag haha.” Not only am I not bothered, but …
/r/askTRP07/01/21 11:32 PM
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Yeah, you’re spot on. What I was trying to draw attention to is that while you could spend the time figuring what one woman in particular finds valuable, if you have a life that you enjoy, it’s likely you’ll attract people that are compatible
/r/TheRedPill07/01/21 10:36 PM
1

Good job linking the study. Imo it’s simpler than that. Many times confidence is derived from being demonstrably competent
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 07:08 PM
2

This is a good point. Social circle can be a huge obstacle regardless of age. If her friends think you’re a loser, it’s an uphill battle. Something I notice is that if the people around her genuinely want the best for her, they tend to sign off on the relationship if he’s actually improving her life. If the social circle has irreconcilable conflicts with the guy, typically she has to make a decision. Where it gets sad is when the woman chooses a shit guy over a very supportive network, or choose…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 03:57 PM
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TL;DR: it’s about the value you can provide. If you’re demonstrably the most valuable guy they have access to, they can’t get enough of you. What a woman finds valuable, how to display said value, and where you can locate women that are receptive to the value you provide become more important variables later on. For now: focus on making your life one that you enjoy and are fulfilled by.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/21 03:39 PM
6

Paying extra in taxes and for healthcare will likely be cheaper than a divorce. If you’re not trying to have kids, signing a marriage certificate puts you in a risky position. If you watch the documentary Divorce Corp, it goes over how there is tremendous incentive for a woman to marry for money, wait it out, then divorce the man and live on alimony. It’s a racket. The mistake men make is thinking that they are good enough to tell the difference between a woman who would do such a thing, and a g…
/r/TheRedPill07/01/21 02:48 PM
2

While I agree, that men shouldn’t be hoping for pussy Nirvana when they’re older, there are definitely benefits for younger women who are dating older men long term, and I’m saying this as a younger guy. A lot of comments here mention looks, which seems to be more important for casual relationships and flings, though long term, the focus seems to be on what a man can do for a woman. Some points of disparity between younger men and older men, that I’ve noticed: life experience and ability to prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 11:59 AM
3

From Viktor Frankl: “When a person can’t find a deep sense of meaning, they distract themselves with pleasure.” It’s easier said than done, but finding something worthwhile to occupy your focus solves the issue, at least temporarily. Sex is great and all, but it pales in comparison to great achievement ime. To stand at the top of a mountain that you spent many difficult months climbing feels better than busting 1000 nuts
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 11:43 AM
1

Personally I’d respond, “how would that benefit me?” Most of the time they ask something goofy like that, they can’t answer the question. I tell them I like women who do “x, y, z”, bc that’s the kind of stuff I care about. If she’s not tryna do that, what is there to talk about?
/r/askTRP05/01/21 10:06 PM
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If you continue to associate with this woman after she has shown you that she makes these kinds of decisions, you are very worthy of the misery she will bring you. Eventually, she will make a poor decision that you will suffer for. It will all be for some puss from a girl that doesn’t have anything else to offer. You’re better than that bro, that girl needs therapy
/r/askTRP04/01/21 07:54 PM
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No worries, you'd learn (and hopefully internalize) it with more life experience. The key is to figure out who you are, what you value, and where you're going in life. Without firmly establishing these, it'll be difficult to determine who belongs in your life
/r/askTRP04/01/21 01:31 PM
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To answer the question in the title, you can't. There's a saying: Your girl may not cheat, but she always knows who has next. They'll always have a backup guy, it is in their biology. The only thing you can do is be the far and away best option she has access to, such that the if she were to jump to another guy, she'd end up thinking of you whenever that guy has the occasional slip up. After that, all you really have to do is figure out which direction you're going, let em know that they're welc…
/r/askTRP04/01/21 11:59 AM
2

Why people commit suicide? That's easy, they're in a situation where they don't think things can get better, regardless of what they do. Is it better to continue suffering in vain? Not saying I agree with that mindset, I personally think you gotta give it a chance to get better, but to these people in a situation where they feel helpless, I can definitely see the end of suffering being the better choice.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/21 01:32 AM
11

The honesty on display by this man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 01:29 PM
21

You answered your own question. “I’m happy to see you in person, but I’m just not into texting.” You could also add something about how she has a personality that can’t adequately be described over text, or that it doesn’t phase you bc you know she has more to offer than just her body. These sound a bit cringy, but it builds comfort to keep plates from breaking, assuming they're mentally stable enough. I'd respond directly to the shit test about other guys, since she thinks that'll move you. "To…
/r/askTRP02/01/21 02:35 AM
3

I wish you luck man, the two things you mention are critical. In your life, you'll face many more challenges that make your current situation seem like no big deal.
/r/askTRP25/12/20 04:57 PM
1

I see what you’re saying and I’m inclined to agree. However, it still doesn’t provide sufficient incentive for the individual to change their behavior, which is where a solution would lie. For as long as my (and others) individual interest of not wearing a mask pervades the over stopping the spread of covid, we’ll likely continue to be ravaged by covid, it’s the same principle. That being said, the only thing I have control over is myself. All I can do is what I am supposed to, and hope that oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:40 PM
1

For as long as you continue to react with emotion first, women will have control over you because they can make you react a certain way. I choose not to partake in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:15 PM
2

I’m not letting women push me around, I’m highlighting the reality of the situation and dealing with it. Your letting your emotions get in the way of your rational thinking. Personally, I don’t deal with the type of women you’re complaining about because I’m not in the environment where they congregate. I’ve worked to attain a certain level of success, which comes with a certain lifestyle, which includes a certain caliber of people. I don’t deal with “low quality” people because I don’t live a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:11 PM
1

You're taking this too personally, it's not that serious. Eventually you'll come to realize that these things are not worth the indignation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 01:51 PM
2

I am keeping those things in consideration, I just don't want to write a novel in the comments. I wrote the comments to give you perspective, bc it seems like your perspective is heavily influenced by the culture in the US, where feminism seems to be most rampant. If you traveled to eastern Europe or Latin America, the average woman doesn't really subscribe to feminism, in part they rely on a man for quite a lot. Regarding expectations of the women you're complaining about, why should we care? T…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 01:45 PM
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I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but consider the context: only about 10% of women are on tinder. Are these the top 10% of women? If so, would they really need a dating app? Good looking, desirable women are approached multiple times a day, even with covid. Given how vile men tend to be on OLD, for a woman to have to resort to apps is not a good sign. These girls seem to be desirable from the outside, but no one in their real life tries to keep them around? Interesting. These are the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 01:16 PM
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Because they add value to it, point blank. The majority of women don't want their equal, as you've noted. They desire someone better than them, someone who can make them better via association. Ideally you figure out what you want to do with your life, prioritize that, and the women you allow into your life contribute in a meaningful way. For as long as they're contributing, they can come along for the ride. The reason a relationship isn't equal is because the man traditionally has greater oblig…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 01:09 PM
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Basically yeah. We can be salty about it if we want, but these girls want the absolute best, and why wouldn't they? It's engrained in their biology to want the best. They have no real choice but to hone in on the top x%. And that's fine, they can want what they want. If you're a guy, be glad that you're a guy. While you can work on things other than looks that you can fall back on IRL, women must be good looking, and many rely on their appearance, which diminishes with time. The main reason dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 12:50 PM
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Some perspective: you're overreacting way too much. A suggestion: work on your mindset. Look into stoicism, starting with either Aurelius or Seneca. Basically, we want to get you to a point where the only things that affect your internal state are the things within your control and the actions you take on those things. In addition, it may be helpful for you to change your perspective on some of the things that have transpired. Your post title is, "I have been humiliated beyond belief, I have nev…
/r/askTRP25/12/20 11:50 AM
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It's less so jealousy and moreso loss aversion imo. Most guys can't handle the thought of their girl getting railed by someone else. Though this is a mostly emotional reaction, there's a bit of rationality to this response. Time is the most valuable resource you have as a man, and it's a real pain in the ass to invest a significant amount of time and other resources in someone/something only to have it sprout legs and walk away. It'd be like a company taking a new grad, putting said employee thr…
/r/askTRP25/12/20 10:56 AM
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Reading this post, you’ve yet to rid yourself of the mindset that makes you feel like you have to prove yourself to other people. A note on frame: you should be prioritizing yourself first and foremost, 100% of the time. Spend time gaining gratification from your own efforts, and not from external events. The things that “went right” are things that should happen when you prioritize yourself and your goals. Things start going wrong when you start letting the external affect your internal state, …
/r/TheRedPill24/12/20 08:28 PM
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She sounds young, 18-22. They're goofy af in that age range, prolly bc they haven't really been held accountable by life yet. If she's been a year or more out of school, this is unacceptable. Two pertinent questions: 1. What did she expect would happen? 2. What kinda dummy jeopardizes a relationship so frivolously? Demote her to goofy bitch in perpetuity. They know how to act right, and also how to treat people that they respect. Regarding hooking up: I wouldn't do it. Ol girl thinks she can off…
/r/askTRP24/12/20 05:29 PM
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Part of it is validation, also to check to see if you've become a winner in the meantime. If the guy she's seeing was clearly better than you, she prolly wouldn't reach out. They can't help but wonder if their current guy is the best they can do. Try not to get emotional when dealing with her.
/r/askTRP23/12/20 11:47 PM
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She'll get you eventually, all she has to do is repeat the cycle of bawling and fucking your brains out. It's unlikely she'll stop pushing for commitment. How many iterations do you think it'll take? I think what'll do you in is after a few more cycles of this, in addition to a slump in your rotation of plates, you might think it'll be better to just say fuggit and LTR this girl. If you let her manipulate you via emotions, she'll continue doing it bc it's effective.
/r/askTRP23/12/20 07:56 PM
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I think the premise here is inaccurate. Typically when people say men and women can't be friends, both genders realize it would be difficult to be relegated to friendship when you find yourself attracted enough to the person to desire a relationship. Most of the time it's men feeling that way toward women, imo bc men don't really have the abundance that women have. If a guy were to have the plethora of experience with women as women tend to have with men, it may be a different story. Specificall…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:39 PM
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I think some comments here are missing the forest for the trees. With women, it's about chasing value in some form or another. At least this woman is explicit and clear with her expectations. Usually they just imply things and hope you get the message.
/r/MGTOW20/12/20 04:48 PM
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Polarity is frequently discussed in Deida's Way of the Superior Man. For relationship dynamics, the Rational Male is relatively exhaustive.
/r/askTRP20/12/20 01:10 PM
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Bold of you to assume a woman would be interested in me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:00 AM
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Something I don't see being addressed too often: what percentage of this massive income is saved/invested? 78% of people in the US live paycheck to paycheck, not because they don't earn enough money, but mostly because they spend almost as much as (sometimes more) than they earn. This is even the case for multimillionaire professional athletes. Sometimes we think of what we would do with this kind of money, but in all likelihood, these girls are blowing it as fast as they can make it.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/20 03:32 AM
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Thank you, your perspective is appreciated. At the risk of making a generalization, I think your view in character is shared by many. It’s like, “you were doing so well, why’d you have to go and say that.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 08:10 PM
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Agreed. What would you rank those 3 in order of importance? Does your answer change when considering short term vs. long term? If so, how so, and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 06:57 PM
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Agreed, my bad if the context was unclear
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 06:53 PM
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Agreed on the first point. I may be desperate for cooch here, but I could see the benefit of commitment as a guy. If a woman is doing everything she can to make my life easier, I would want to incentivize her to continue doing so. Not tryna demoralize her via infidelity. I see what you mean, and it may depend on the environment. Like it’s pretty sweet in the West, though i imagine women in developing countries are definitely looking at things like physical stature, earning potential, and social …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 06:17 PM
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Relatively, no. A lot of times kindness is just politeness, which I expect. Occasionally there’ll be women who will be particularly kind, but at that point, I label it as compassion or empathy, as I think those words form a more apt description. It’s worth mentioning that I was plenty nice to women who weren’t attracted to me. The reason being I had nothing other than kindness to offer tbh. I wasn’t good looking, had no money, no social status, I couldn’t show/teach them anything, in short I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 06:01 PM
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Lmao, I’ll be the first to be an ISO42069, type 2 asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:30 PM
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It’s interesting you bring up gender dysphoria. As I am very unfamiliar with it, excuse my ignorance in the following question: Is it only being treated like a woman that you dislike, or could it also be the case that being treated in a way that you don’t feel you deserve brings forth feelings of guilt, for lack of a better word. The reason I ask: there are aspects of the way people treat women that I personally would not want to deal with, but if someone told me I would be valued and taken care…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:29 PM
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I feel that. To be clear, there are people that are nice bc they have nothing of real value to offer. A woman who weighs more than me can be the nicest in the world, but bby girl finna be just a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 03:47 PM
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I did realize, I tried linking the sub and using "stereotypical" to make that doubly clear. I actually did see your comment in the other thread and found it insightful. Your point on female pedestalization is similarly insightful. It seems like those women you mention are treated like celebs in their daily life so much so that they come to see that as "normal" behavior. Would you say that the pedestalization makes you uncomfortable? If so, why do you think that is? If there is a better adjective…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 03:44 PM
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Society favors simping. To have men be incentivized to be productive has always been a good thing. There's a lot of visceral reactions when talking about onlyfans and twitch thots. It's unnecessary imo. The market will regulate itself. If onlyfans becomes a legitimate option for many, many will opt in. At that point the market becomes so saturated in supply and the price of goods gets driven down as a result. At that point, onlyfans is no longer a viable option. Then they gotta find something el…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 03:43 PM
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You can't avoid goofiness, especially in younger girls. All you can do is anticipate certain actions, and set boundaries when situations arise. I try to have empathy for them. They’ve likely not seen an example of a functional relationship.
/r/askTRP17/12/20 11:53 PM
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She gets drunk and impulsively offers anal? Never had that experience. She’s using drunkenness to avoid potentially being called a slut, plausible deniability on her part. Unfortunately for you, if she ever switches up, it’s your ass. When sober, she doesn’t want to acknowledge potentially being a slut. She’s trying to “make the good guy wait”, but has already revealed she’s willing to sleep with you. She thinks you’re dumb enough to fall for that poorly executed plan. Among women, there are “Th…
/r/askTRP17/12/20 10:53 PM
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She got you bro. Women are very detail oriented, it’s no coincidence that she’s wearing see through clothing, and then doing the most ostentatious exercises in the middle of the gym. Your reaction is normal. Sex appeal is the best tool in women’s arsenal. If you want to get past it, you can change your interpretation of her actions. Instead of being mesmerized, you can consciously think of how sad it is that she likely has nothing of value to offer than her looks, something that is mostly due to…
/r/askTRP17/12/20 07:08 PM
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True, they tend to coincide
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 05:46 PM
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If the women we are attracted to are heterosexual, there’s some guy out there they desire, bc of traits (x, y, z). It’s just not us bc we lack those traits. Is this invalid? Edit: we lack the traits, or are not doing a good job demonstrating those traits. Ofc, it’s possible the women could just be poor decision makers and/or can’t see what’s in front of them. Do we still want those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 01:59 PM
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I agree this is generally true, though if you’re clearly near the top in your “dominance hierarchy”, women will put themselves in your orbit. The rub is that you have to be near the top to experience this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 01:56 PM
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Perspective: if you are generally attractive, women in general will find you attractive. If you’ve met a variety of different women with a varied selection of wants, and not one of them has shown any interest, the problem is not those women, the problem is likely you. I think “wanting to bone” is the thing the disagreement is based upon. They may not want to be physically intimate (for a variety of valid reasons), but if the majority of women you’ve met find you respectable and admirable, it’s v…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 01:49 PM
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I don’t think you get what I’m saying. You mention checking off boxes on some checklist. They don’t know what they want. You present an option (yourself) and if they’re not able to see what value you bring to them, it’s their loss. For as long as you believe what your comments are claiming, you’ll constantly be qualifying yourself to some woman. Break free of that mindset, improve your life, and only allow people in it that add value.
/r/askTRP16/12/20 01:10 PM
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With all due respect, reasons like this are why mindset is important. They can perceive you to be whatever they feel like. If you have a strong enough frame, either they fall in line or they stop associating with you. An extension to your experiment: purposely make your appearance as bummy as possible and approach women with the arrogance of a celebrity.
/r/askTRP16/12/20 03:37 AM
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Pragmatically: it does you no good to share problems with people who cannot help you solve those problems. A lot of women have issues dealing with their own emotions, how are they supposed to help you with yours? Get a therapist bruv, preferably male. Hang out with men that you can respect and admire. Don’t expect a woman to act like a man, and you’ll have less issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 12:24 AM
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I respect this, though this is easier said than done in some instances
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 09:21 PM
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Set some goals for yourself, independent of women or anyone else. Figure out how to enjoy your own life before wanting other people in it. As a man, no one is coming to save you. You must work for everything you want. You said you try your hardest to do everything right. Do you have a job that pays enough to live comfortably, do you have your own car, and your own place? If not, you really shouldn’t even be focused on women. They are the least of your problems and will likely add more difficulty…
/r/TheRedPill15/12/20 05:59 PM
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I see what you’re saying, and I am inclined to agree. Something you don’t mention in your reply is how much you personally value having those pictures taken. I’m sure that if you mentioned that it was important to you, he’d find some way to accommodate, or at least try, because he wants to do something that would make you happy. I agree that things don’t have to be “fair”. That being said, a woman who is sufficiently into you will do anything she thinks may make you happy, or at least try to acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 05:09 PM
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I see what you’re saying. While I can appreciate the role simps play (they drive the US economy tbh), I don’t appreciate some regular degular girl treating me like one of them. On the bright side, experience is the best teacher. I’d rather be a guy and work for everything I have than be a girl who is “given everything” from the outset. In the former, I have the knowledge, in the latter I’d rely on fortune. Massive level cope, but it gets me through the day
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 03:07 PM
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This is a straw man. Not sure how you get “women should be stripped of their rights” from “women don’t have incentives to provide what men want”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 11:13 AM
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Watch and learn from Craig Ferguson clips. Essentially purposefully misinterpret what they say, and act like they were coming into you
/r/TheRedPill13/12/20 05:57 PM
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Agreed, the couple on the “Deadass Podcast” is another representative example. They went into great detail about how their sex life went through changes from when they met in college, to moving in together, to being married, to after children. What you said is 100% correct, and I’d say most men would be understanding of that, it is what it is. Nobody purposely signs up for a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 05:06 PM
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It’d be interesting to discuss where that “perception” comes from. There’s plenty of accounts on r/relationship_advice of men finding out there sexually conservative wife’s wild past, typically in the form of either a friend accidentally spilling the beans or said man finding his wife’s sex tape. The issue: sex is important to men in a relationship, point blank. Many men cannot reconcile their SOs sexually full past bc to men, an SO that’s sexually free with past partners but not them treated th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 03:53 PM
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Write out a list of goals, and a plan for attaining them, and then prioritize doing things daily than bring you closer to them. This may seem obtuse, when you’re actively focusing toward accomplishing something, not only do you have something to talk about, but you lessen the anxiety that comes with having to “perform well” in a social interaction. You could also try joining a public speaking club, seeing which speakers are most engaging in your opinion, and take notes from them on delivery, con…
/r/askTRP12/12/20 08:18 PM
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regarding giving advice: You may have a similar experience in this realm. Unfortunately it seems like free, unsolicited advice isn’t really seen as all that valuable, unfortunately. We could make a 5 bullet point summary of what 95% of guys would find desirable. The first thing that would happen is that either people argue with us or straight up don't heed the advice. Disagreement is fine, since it helps us better understand and find what information is correct, but you find a lot of bad faith a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 04:49 PM
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Gotta have some compassion. The girls you're talking about don't seem to get the truth from people around them. Specifically: if you're going after the ideal guy, who has a lot of options, the competition is fierce. As a guy, it's relatively evident that you’ll have to compete (implicit or explicit) against the other guys in the girl’s life. It seems like women don’t necessarily have a good understanding of how to compete for an LTR with the man they desire. I imagine it’s difficult, what do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 03:26 PM
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Facts, I agree wholeheartedly with what you’re saying. What I’m saying is that the action serves as an easy filter. As you’ve noticed, you enjoy the women around you, and one of the main reasons is they add value to your life. OP asked how to not get distracted by a girls looks (essentially), finding something else to evaluate them based is an effective alternative. It seemed more valuable to provide an example of a concrete action instead of some subjective characteristic (e.g. is she kind/comp…
/r/askTRP12/12/20 12:32 PM
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focus on something else. I recommend against evaluating someone based on things they can't control. For example, I personally want to know ASAP if the girl is willing and able to make me something to eat, so I steer the convo there as quickly as I can. Whether we're talking about careers, hobbies, school, etc, I’m gonna be asking some form of “do you know how to cook,” bc that’s some shit I care about. To each their own, but for me a girl would have to be willing to invest in me somehow for me t…
/r/askTRP12/12/20 06:00 AM
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Nobody wants to be seen as weak.
/r/askTRP11/12/20 09:36 PM
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Sounds great in theory. If you’re a desirable guy, they most likely will desire you. This opens up the possibility of them becoming vindictive if their advances are rejected. There is too much outside of the guy’s control in this scenario. I’d argue a masculine guy’s best ally would be another masculine guy who wants to get shit done, or their manager.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 04:50 PM
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You mention receiving and giving love. Calling it a transaction is a bit sterile, but it seems like you understand and agree that there must be incentive for you to do “x”, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 07:35 PM
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Facts, this was a perspective I did not consider in my first reply. Thank you for elucidating
/r/askTRP06/12/20 08:28 PM
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Something that may help kill that: take a partner dance class. Something ballroom like swing, tango, or salsa. They're typically more women than men and a good time in general since you're interacting with a bunch of women regularly.
/r/askTRP06/12/20 07:33 PM
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If you spend time getting better at solo activities (lifting, running, photography, etc), you start enjoying those activities more. At some point, you realize that you don't need anybody to be fulfilled, which is convenient, bc no one on this Earth can give you fulfillment. Somewhat related: spend time working towards goals. If you're 18-25, you should be focusing on that since: 1. As long as there's water on Earth, there will be plenty of beautiful women around. 2. The aforementioned women will…
/r/askTRP06/12/20 07:03 PM
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I didn't say anything about fucking her. Reread your last comment brother, it's rife with emotion. Not saying people don't have emotions, but getting emotional doesn't help you make better decisions. Like I said, I'd have her do things for me. If we're being honest, you probably didn't require her to add value to your life during the relationship. Bc there wasn't investment required on her part, she didn't value the relationship. People value things they earn. In this case, she'll be doing thing…
/r/askTRP06/12/20 06:56 PM
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Women will occasionally check back in to see if you've become a winner since they left. If not, ghostville again. If so, they'll try to slide back in. The strategy is impeccable, and hella effective. Whether you go to her or she drops them off at your place, when she asks questions trying to figure out what you're up to, be vague af, but mention how much fun you're having. She'll get FOMO, and her hamster wheel starts turning. If I were in your position, I'd have her drop the clothes off at my p…
/r/askTRP06/12/20 06:06 PM
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If you’re speaking from personal experience, you should re-evaluate your choices in women. A good woman is like a lieutenant to a worthy captain.
/r/TheRedPill06/12/20 11:45 AM
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Take time away from dating in order to develop yourself and competence in various areas. Bruv, if you’re jacked, rich, and popular in your community, it is difficult not to see yourself as highly desirable. In addition, get comfortable with and enjoy your own presence. The only thing a random girl can manipulate you with is that you won’t get some pussy, but if your response is indifferent, they tend to either fall in line or stop hanging around you.
/r/askTRP06/12/20 12:06 AM
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Focus on what’s productive, steer the conversation back towards that when there’s deviation. Also, what you may see as manipulative can also be considered traits of a good leader. A good leader challenges and gets the best out of their subordinates. It may be uncomfortable, but as CTO, if the bottom line is negatively affected, it’ll be much more uncomfortable telling a bunch of people they won’t be able to feed their families after the company goes though layoffs. Another thing: it’s always ez …
/r/TheRedPill04/12/20 06:38 PM
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Is it that men don’t enjoy doing things for their partner, or that the examples often presented are things women enjoy doing for men? Women typically enjoy cooking for their SOs, we know this. What do men enjoy doing for their SOs? Asking about their day, showing/teaching them things they don’t know, solving problems when their SOs bring them up. Men and women are different, and value different things. They bring different things to the relationship, and play different roles. Otherwise one would…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 08:08 PM
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What should she do in the future? It sounds like this is a repeated behavior. Tell her what parts of what she did are unacceptable and why. No feelings involved, just "when you do <x>, this doesn't work". "You want <x>, and I want you to get <x>, but in order to do that, you must do <y>. Help me help you. You can do <z> if you like, but <something unfortunate> will happen. Again, up to you." Say she has some emotional outburst. This doesn't work bc when people scream at me, I am not incentivized…
/r/askTRP03/12/20 06:22 PM
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Yeah, agreed. Experimenting with psychedelics puts this front and center. At some point, the concept of "you" means nothing in that altered state of consciousness
/r/askTRP03/12/20 03:03 PM
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Yeah, I think generations before us have come to a similar conclusion. Victor Frankl and Marcus Aurelius address this and similar concerns in their works. In essence, your last freedoms are in choosing how to perceive a situation, and choosing how to respond. Some circumstances you neither have control nor influence over, so it makes sense to just focus on the ones you do have control over. This seems to be the most productive approach.
/r/askTRP03/12/20 11:43 AM
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True that. Remember: they know how to treat a guy they like. If Brad Pitt (or fav celeb) asked her to be somewhere, there would be no discussion. If she valued you enough, she'd unfuck her life for at least 30 mins to see you.
/r/askTRP02/12/20 06:49 PM
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The points that you're hinging on mean nothing. she texts you all the time, always texting first = she's bored and has nothing better to do, hits you up for entertainment she says she misses you = means nothing. If she misses you, she'd find a way to see you maybe/I'll let you know = no. Someone with high interest would move mountains to see you. Best case is that she lives a disorganized life, which is the case for a lot of young people. This is a waste of time for you, and will only frustrate …
/r/askTRP02/12/20 06:40 PM
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Shit test, leave her on read. They know how to act, don't accept this kind of treatment
/r/askTRP02/12/20 06:34 PM
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Say you're trying to become a clergyman and are trying to resist temptation. For some reason, they take this as a challenge.
/r/askTRP02/12/20 06:32 PM
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It took you 5 hours to get this girl butt ass naked and you are her out? Gonna keep it real and say that if you got it that easy, some guy that's better than you probably recently creampied her. She's nexting you as politely as possible after giving you a pity bj "I don't think I'm ready to date right now", but she was ready to have your dick in and around her mouth? Make it make sense
/r/askTRP02/12/20 06:28 PM
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You're playing a dangerous game here. If she ever feels bad about your interactions, she'll go to HR and you're out of a job. Edit to add that her feeling bad can be due to any number of things. Her friends/flatmate calling her a slut, an argument with the BF in which she reveals she's been trying to cheat, her BF doing something nice for her causing her to feel guilty, you deciding to tone it down (interpreted as rejection), you making innocuous banter with another female (jealousy).
/r/askTRP02/12/20 06:21 PM
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That guy is not your friend. Moreover, his GF will leave him when she realizes she can do better than a guy who compromises his morals for some girl he barely knows. Specifically, you can thank him for his input, and never speak to him again
/r/askTRP02/12/20 06:19 PM
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Make sure a specific time and place is established. If that was the case, next her
/r/askTRP02/12/20 06:14 PM
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Too much talking on your end. When she says "I'm gonna lay on your leg", it's her being as obvious as she can without being a slut that she hopes that pp get hard and you pull that thang out. If she's uncomfortable, she'll actively resist. Ol girl came over with the intention of getting her back blown out. In the future, you can ask, "do you want me to stop," as you escalate and calibrate accordingly. If she's not reciprocating, pull back and let her sit there by herself. Either she reengages on…
/r/askTRP02/12/20 06:12 PM
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These words were real in the moment. Good luck trying to hold her to them when you're arguing and she tells you she hates you and your little pencil dick. In that moment, she means those words 100%
/r/askTRP02/12/20 05:58 PM
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No sense talking needed here. Just imagine her fucking someone else, which she most likely is. Y'all had amazing sex, you think that is reserved to just you? Imagine she came to you after getting dicked down by some rando. Imagine she tried her best to clean out the creampie but didn't quite get all of it. You're fingering her and you're surprised to see she's "extra wet" today lmao. You have no idea if the girl you're making out with has just taken a load to the face and mouth by the guy who's …
/r/askTRP02/12/20 05:54 PM
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A girl who is highly interested in you wouldn't be acting this way. You're making rationalizations for her in your post and have waited a month. She's got you on a string. Turn your read receipts on and let her sit in silence. She'll try a bunch of BS to get you to respond, and will use (the hint of) pussy as the trump card. Then she'll have you on a string again. This assumes you're worth it to her. If you're just another orbiter, she might not give a fuck.
/r/askTRP02/12/20 05:48 PM
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But it’s not though. While you’re gone, they’ll be in the vicinity of someone on your level or better than you (not a dig against you, college aged guys have less to offer than older men). If you ever happen to glance through their messages, you’d be appalled. At least 100+ unread messages of guys trying to give them the world. All you can do is hit em up when you’re in proximity. Trying to keep attraction via text is a slippery slope into neediness
/r/askTRP02/12/20 05:32 PM
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Not quite an LTR, but I’ve had a girl who ghosted me reach out after almost a decade as if nothing happened. Long story short, we chatted, met up, had sex, and went NC shortly after. They’ll always come back to check if you’ve become a winner since they last left you. If so, they slide their way back in. If not, they disappear again
/r/askTRP02/12/20 05:28 PM
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Epiphany phase, you’re the best option for a BB. It’s not real, you’re being set up for a bait and switch. Just make ridiculous requests until she decides she wants out. Specifically, imply your goal is to have a harem of women and that nothing else will do. She will either: A. Introduce you to women, as in literally bring women to you to fuck B. Decide you’re an asshole that she never wants to see again Hoping for B. In addition, A is not limited to bringing other women. Any big goal you’re wor…
/r/askTRP02/12/20 05:23 PM
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Agreed, I was repeating for visibility. The unfortunate thing is that ranting doesn’t reverse the trend. The only hope is to be exemplary, and hope that other men want to follow what you’re doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 04:42 PM
8

Somewhat. It’s always about an exchange of value, and always has been and will be forever. For any individual, find what they value, offer it to them for something you value. If there’s an equivalent exchange (or some outside circumstance), you have a deal. That’d be the case even if you were an altruist, bc doing good for others would provide that inherent value for you
/r/askTRP02/12/20 04:39 PM
1

This comment amounts to “well, yeah”, but I wanted to add the following: Something I see often is people blaming/referring to “society”. When we say “society”, inherently we’re talking about popular opinion. Since it seems like women are more likely to share the opinion of the group, a lot of the times when we say “society”, we can swap it for “A representative group of women”. In that case, “society” will trend to whatever opinion a representative group of women hold. Of course it’ll be lopside…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 04:34 PM
15

You might hate me for this comment: the difficulty depends on who she thinks you are. If a woman thinks that contributing to your success benefits her, and that by betraying you, she directly harms herself, you will have more than a companion. You’ll have a first class lieutenant. It sounds like you’re on the right path
/r/askTRP02/12/20 03:24 PM
20

More like an addict replacing the negative habit with something else. I’d imagine ppl here are tired of the whole “get on your purpose” trope, but if you get serious about life and start actually winning (with tangible results) outside of getting puss, you develop a sense of ambition and are fulfilled by whatever it is you’re winning at. Eventually that thing becomes more motivating than sex, which temporarily dulls that ambition. At that point, it is very difficult for women to manipulate you w…
/r/askTRP02/12/20 03:06 PM
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Try to think about it from a girl’s perspective. If you’re a woman and you’re trying to get a guy to commit, you’ve essentially lost a position of advantage after y’all have sex, especially if you (the girl) have nothing else of value to offer. However, if your pussy is good (like 95% of guys tell you), if you pull back, the guy will most likely chase after so he can get that pussy again. At that point you can impose requirements upon him. We can argue indefinitely about the ethics/stupidity/etc…
/r/askTRP02/12/20 01:09 PM
1

To add to the other comment: your life should be constantly improving. Some people think that they can grind til some arbitrary point and then coast. Real life is not like that. Someone who has a strong sense of self and is driven to make his dent in the universe is particularly attractive. It's who men want to be and who women want to be with. Elon Musk is the quintessence of those qualities. That may not be you, you may just want an average life with some arbitrary girl (I doubt you’ll want on…
/r/askTRP01/12/20 03:02 PM
1

I think I understand what you're saying. What I interpreted your last comment was that you'd yeet a hobby just bc some girl decided she didn't like it, e.g. you'd try to learn piano bc some girl said she didn't like guitar. I know that would be absurd, but there's some guys that would do that, and I couldn't co-sign my bro compromising his principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:48 PM
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You might want to rethink that, or you'll fail a lot of shit tests. Women worth pursuing will test to see if you are who you present yourself to be and will take jabs at your interests to see if you'll stand up for yourself, or if you'll kowtow at the first sign of dissent. If you're truly desirable, it doesn't matter what your hobbies are, she'll want to be a part of your life regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:00 AM
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Unless you're in some fatal accident or a suicide pact, we'll be dying alone regardless. Too many people are in miserable relationships because they think it is better than being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:52 AM
17

It's not her doing that, they're jumping on a trend bc TikTok rules the minds of young women. There's no way they actually think they'll find Mr Right, but they can find a BB.
/r/askTRP30/11/20 01:15 AM
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You're high value to you. If we ever met, you would have no idea what I nor anybody else would find valuable/desirable/interesting, so those attributes you listed would be worthless and ineffectual as you alluded to. To answer your question, all you have to do is ask. To make great conversation, just listen and talk about stuff the other person is interested in. Asking how someone spends their time is a good start. Then if you have something you can add to their answer or something you can comme…
/r/askTRP30/11/20 01:11 AM
1

Gonna keep it real, you have a weak mindset. If you were a desirable man, you could get an abundance of women, and then mold/guide them into a woman who adds value to your life. You probably should take a break from women, something is amiss if you're actively looking for women like the ex you described. Ultimately it's up to you, though if you continue to pursue that, you would deserve the misery in store efor you dealing with a girl like that.
/r/askTRP30/11/20 01:04 AM
1

Who's "people" in this context? I can't imagine a guy asking "what's wrong with you" to a girl that's a virgin. Now I could see a girl thinking that of another girl
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 12:54 AM
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You may need a mindset shift. It’s not clear why you’re so caught up in getting laid if you “rock natural game”. After getting a certain amount of girls (particularly ONS), you’ll probably become indifferent to most of them. It’ll be like near-permanent post nut clarity. “I’m doing all this for some pussy, from a girl who is so incapable that she cannot unfuck her life for long enough to decide what she wants for breakfast, and meanwhile I have to spend 6mo in the gym, get a new wardrobe, get an…
/r/askTRP27/11/20 06:10 PM
1

Elaborate please, I don’t want to misinterpret what you’re saying. Specifically, “they’d be with you because they love you”. The thing about that statement is that it assumes that both parties have the same idea about what love is. People have been trying to define love since time immemorial, and we’ve yet to get a conclusive answer on what it is. You bring up a good point on dependence. I’d argue the difference between dependence and interdependence is both parties understanding they have the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 03:15 PM
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I see where you’re coming from. My apologies if I made it seem like we should be blasé. re: being worthy of disdain and disgust: I’m not sure they’re worthy of any type of emotional reaction at all, which is what I was getting at initially.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/20 12:54 PM
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Nice, avoid refuting the point and instead call him an incel. Totally rekt him
/r/PussyPassDenied26/11/20 12:46 PM
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That’s why you’re the leader homie. You get paid to make the tough decisions. Of course she’s gonna cry, bc it’s effective against men. She has 4 kids and instead of focusing on providing for them, she is busy groping multiple members of your staff? Wonder why she’s divorced🤔 Be glad those employees aren’t vindictive, bc an opportunistic lawyer could wreck your shit. Hopefully ol girl doesn’t open up a wrongful termination suit out of spite, bc even if you win, it may be expensive to deal with. …
/r/PussyPassDenied26/11/20 12:29 PM
2

Agreed, you’re spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 10:01 AM
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You’re leaving out responsibility and performance in your comment. Traditionally men are expected to provide, and a man’s value is judged by what he can do. Of course a man’s gonna go where they’re needed. If you don’t need me, why are you with me? The woman being more educated or making more money isn’t necessarily emasculating, insecure men would feel that way bc they have nothing else to offer. There’s no issue being a “strong independent woman who don’t need no man”. That being said, the one…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:52 AM
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Is everything okay? Why have such a visceral reaction to a guy on the internet that you don't know? You may hate cheating, but you probably know as well as I do that if our girl thinks she can snag her favorite celeb, she'll sleep with him to do so. She'd probably do the same with any A Lister, B Lister, C Lister, etc Where she draws the line is up to her, but pretending that people are bastions of morality is delusional. Similarly, if a 10/10 decided she wanted you or I to blow her back out, in…
/r/TheRedPill25/11/20 07:01 PM
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Disagree, you're not a clown meant to entertain her. You let them do all the talking because you want to evaluate whether they'd be worth investing in. If not, just move on. Besides, being interesting is typically a function of being a good listener. You have to know what they care about in order to be interesting to them in the first place. For example, some women (most likely teachers) would find your story of teaching kids in favelas really endearing. If they don't give a shit about education…
/r/askTRP25/11/20 02:38 PM
3

Think as you wish, but act like everyone else. If you’re pressed about it, just say you’re trying to become a monk. Took this out of women's playbook, undebatable plausible deniability.
/r/MGTOW24/11/20 05:08 PM
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Factual. Question: which do you think gets closer to understanding the other? My gut reaction is guys bc men spend so much more time trying to get women than women do men. You mention the simps, but I am confident in saying those men simp bc they think it may be effective. Specifically seeing women fawn over the actions of men in romantic comedies or Cinderella stories. If those same men thought that James Bond is the ideal man according to women, them mfs might get an Omega Seamaster tomorrow
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 04:05 PM
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Part of TRP is seeing reality for what it is. If you’re a women and 95% of men who talk to you do so bc they want to sleep with you (and think a relationship is an easy way to do so), why wouldn’t you assume that this guy is the same? There’s nothing particularly special about you, or me, or most other men. They just see us as average guys, and the average guy is trying to sleep with them through various means, most often by trying to befriend them.
/r/MGTOW24/11/20 02:37 PM
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Good frame control, though the number is somewhat inconsequential. That type of girl likely has 110 unread messages. Better than nothing though
/r/askTRP23/11/20 07:29 PM
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Find a worthwhile way to occupy your time.
/r/askTRP22/11/20 02:23 PM
2

Maybe to you, it doesn't necessarily serve as a conclusive proof though. Again, it depends on why the individual makes those choices. If you don't really understand that person's decision-making process, you're playing a risky game. As much as I would like to go by numbers (objective and efficiently gathered data), they don't always give me enough information to make a good decision. If the individual is hedonistic/impulsive by nature, their n count doesn't matter to me. Eventually they'll make …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 01:48 PM
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N-count is not descriptive enough, and lead to conflating causation and correlation. Specifically, it doesn't cover the "why". E.g., if there was a girl who had an n count of 0 at 24 vs another who had an n count of 7 at 24, it would seem like the comparison would be ez, but if the former had 0 partners bc she lived in bumfuck, and the latter had approx 1 bf every year since 17, this is a completely different story. I'm not particularly disagreeing with you, I'm just pointing out that the "reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 01:08 PM
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That mindset is unproductive
/r/MGTOW21/11/20 09:34 AM
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Commenting to stress the importance of being understanding. Women are not men, you're fighting a losing battle if you try to rationalize w someone making an emotional decision. Specifically, the feeling of being abandoned (e.g. not being shown any attention) at sometime in the future is an instinctual fear for women. You can show her that Jenni Lee video (porn star that now lives in the London underground) to further make a point. Don't get emotional, don't let her drag you into her emotional tu…
/r/MGTOW20/11/20 07:00 PM
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Not seeing a lot of practical advice here. My recommendation is to empathize and try to talk to her. If we're being honest, there's nothing you can do to stop her and if you try to force her to do anything in particular, she'll get defensive and do exactly the thing you want her NOT to do. Something that works for me when I am advising someone not to do something: I try to understand where they're coming from, I tell them that they can do whatever they wish as I can't stop them, but if it were m…
/r/MGTOW20/11/20 06:51 PM
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I thought that point was implied from my first paragraph. I can't imagine a guy reading that and saying, "Yeah, that's what I would like to be." I agree on the internalization part. IMO, internalizing it is easier if you have shit to do, i.e., are legitimately busy.
/r/askTRP20/11/20 11:52 AM
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You didn't fuck up man, you learned via experience. It's not a permanent thing, her emotions shift and eventually she'll come back to see if you've become a winner. Don't hope for it, but almost all girls do it, in my experience. Just keep doing your thing and improving your life.
/r/askTRP19/11/20 04:59 PM
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It's not a trick. If they want to cooperate, they will and won't hesitate to do so. If not, they'll play around and you'll waste time and be frustrated.
/r/askTRP19/11/20 04:09 PM
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Don't get caught up thinking that women are men. They think and act differently than men do. They can text, argue, and emote for infinitely without batting an eye. She's nagging, but is she taking action? If you focus on the words, she'll run circles around you, and me, and all of us. You gotta let her know she either gets right or get left. Decide what you find acceptable, and don't accept anything outside those bounds. You: come over Her: something not an enthusiastic yes You: read You: when a…
/r/askTRP19/11/20 04:02 PM
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Ghost, say you're busy, respond with "I'll let you know" or "We'll see". Granted, it's what girls do but they do it bc it's foolproof. It's an un-arguable strategy, and can't make you the bad guy
/r/askTRP19/11/20 03:37 PM
1

Leave on read, not worth responding to goofy shit like that
/r/askTRP19/11/20 03:15 PM
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They could in theory, in practice it's a lot more messy. The kind of girls that hookup on a moment's notice indiscriminately are the kind that flake indiscriminately. If they see long term potential with you, they try to delay sex. Time is the most valuable asset here, since there's always more time to make money, but never enough money to make time
/r/askTRP19/11/20 03:12 PM
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Figure out what you can do to improve the situation, and then do that. It sounds simple, but that's the only way. Really figure out what the core of the issue is, deconstruct it, and devote 100% of your energy to solving the core.
/r/askTRP19/11/20 03:07 PM
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She got you bro. "I understand if you don't want to see me", this is not the statement that a highly interested girl would say, they'd be basically begging to see you. You should've fell back at this point. When you didn't, she got you pegged as a bEtA cUcK. A respectable man would have left on read, because he only invests in what benefits him. She confirmed your lack of options when you were immediately available the next day. At your job, a no call no show may mean immediate termination. Two …
/r/askTRP19/11/20 03:04 PM
2

Yeah, specifically if they enjoy cooking and if they have connections. She can introduce me to the 45yo investor that's orbiting her.
/r/askTRP19/11/20 02:57 PM
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This is the answer, both men and women
/r/askTRP19/11/20 02:49 PM
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It depends on your lifestyle. If you have nothing better to do than to text a girl you don't know all day, you can text her whenever. If you're legitimately busy, you'll only text for logistics. The latter isn't particularly ideal for her, but if she's sufficiently interested and her choices are logistics texting or not communicating with you at all, which do you think she'll choose? Edit: Sufficiently interested is a big if here. If she thinks you're a loser, it doesn't matter which approach yo…
/r/askTRP19/11/20 02:46 PM
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Turn your read receipts on and don't let her come back unless she invests. Being good looking is not enough. You: "Yeah you come thru if you make a pot roast or something" Her: "Are you serious?" Or some other thing that's not 100% agreeing You: read Eventually... Her: Hey I can make a pot roast and bring it over tonight You: don't forget the tater salad Obviously don't follow a script, but the idea is that you decide what you find acceptable and and nothing less will do. You can't make anyone d…
/r/askTRP19/11/20 02:41 PM
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Whether this is a rejection or not, if a girl is into, they move mountains to make it easier to be around you. "Yeah we might die" conveniently gives her an out without her having to take accountability for saying no. It's foolproof bc you can't logically argue with it. "I could've seen you" gets you thinking emotionally about her, when rationally, you know damn well she can see you now. Even if it wasn't in person, she'd be asking to FT to see you or hear your voice. That girl's not into you li…
/r/askTRP19/11/20 02:29 PM
1

Flakes are common in general, the girls you're (we're) meeting are living disorganized lives. When you ask, they are absolutely 100% down for it. When the time comes, they feel a different way, due to any of a million different reasons, especially the young girls bc they're trying to figure themselves out. My advice would be to develop hobbies that you can enjoy by yourself, that you can potentially include a girl in. When you invite a girl out, invite her to that thing. If she flakes, you've lo…
/r/askTRP19/11/20 02:15 PM
1

I see where you're coming from, thank you for clarifying. You make good points in your last paragraph, especially in it being easier to not pursue vs reject. I assume you're using "you" in the general sense, and you're absolutely right about the bias aspect. Some clarifications you may find insightful: The "Chads" that are chasing women are chasing them for sex. Men that are notably "high value" (Keanus?) are generally indifferent towards women in my experience. As in, they have a lot going on i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 01:06 PM
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True that, you're absolutely right. "Fun to be with" is subjective though, I'm sure you've met plenty of people who think that they have wonderful personalities, when in reality they are th— lemme not finish that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:15 PM
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We’re in agreement on your last point. To say that promiscuity has zero to do with being a good partner in a relationship, I do not agree with that, based on what I said above. I understand that you may have run across people implying men with high n counts make good partners. Personally, I am not saying that. There are indeed attractive men that don’t sleep around. What I’m saying is that a man who is unattractive to women in general most likely will not have the ability/capacity to sleep aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 01:09 PM
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I think the answer to your question lies in the part where the commenter mentions discrimination. Yes, hot guys get easy sex, as do women. For a woman to not be discriminating in who they have sex with, especially when sex is riskier for women than it is for men, is a troubling sign. In terms of a relationship, people who have really high (open to interpretation) n-counts seem to be more impulsive, which does not portend good things about their decision making capability. Obviously if you intera…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 10:47 AM
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Are you being facetious? While the cash/prize has some utility, “for fun” indicates impulsiveness. Either way it’s sex being traded for something, wouldn’t it be more prudent to trade for something with tangible value?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 10:30 AM
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It seems like more women tend to lean towards selecting for long-term rather than short term. For a LTR with a man, what he's capable of is far superior than what he looks like, typically. You may scoff at this, but if you take a trip to eastern Europe, where the average woman is modelesque but married to a very schlubby looking guy, you'd change your perspective. Life is very good and relatively free from turmoil in the West, compared to other places. This allows people (both men and women) to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 03:53 PM
1

The second, re: girl. Gonna get straight to the point and say that you’re fortunate to have experienced this early enough in your life that you can learn from this: The mistake you made was not showing emotional weakness, but in telling her about a problem that she cannot help you solve. This girl is likely a loosely held together bundle of emotions, she looks to you as her rock and to help her deal with hers. She may mean well by telling you to open up to her, but in reality, wtf is that actual…
/r/askTRP15/11/20 10:44 AM
1

Two things: First, how to deal with the situation with your mom. There's a philosophy called stoicism that I think you should look into. "This too shall pass," is a representative mantra, as is the Serenity Prayer. The goal of this philosophy is not to never feel emotion, but to see reality for what it is, to handle it accordingly, and to have the resolve to do what must be done, especially during hard times. I'm sure you realize that your mother may die soon, and you MUST be prepared to deal wi…
/r/askTRP15/11/20 10:18 AM
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Lemme smash that fantasy for you. You want a girl, but why? To bust a nut? Get a hooker. Companionship? Friends/dogs. Emotional support? A therapist will be cheaper. What does a woman bring you that you can't get yourself? What does one specific woman bring you that the others can't? It'll be hard to find a conclusive answer to both of those tbh. A common issue with modern relationships is that they're started during "good times", as in, times of relatively little turmoil. Imagine you were in a …
/r/askTRP14/11/20 07:44 PM
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Haven't heard this answer here, but try studying stoicism. You're asking this question as if you don't already have everything you could ever need, and will struggle with fulfillment for as long as you keep that mindset. Really hone in on rejecting external influences. If you're not motivated by pleasure nor deterred by pain, nobody can manipulate you into thinking you need anything they can offer you. Especially when whatever they could offer is likely not that important in the first place. It'…
/r/askTRP14/11/20 06:11 PM
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Be careful here, what happened in the past doesn’t matter, they’ll evaluate your actions in the moment. You can spend your entire life pleasing a girl, the moment she gets mad, she’ll say, “you never show me you care” or something. Always DARE, never DEER. Her: “you’re lying, you’ll be with another girl” Deflect: “nah” Agree+Amplify to Absurdity: “close, I’ll be with 200 girls” Repeat: “I’ll be with Mike.” Exit: leave on read bc she’s saying some goofy shit Either of the above are fine, but don’…
/r/askTRP13/11/20 09:35 PM
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They’re likely sleeping with either extremely good looking or high status guys. For the former, apparently women are really horny after they get off their period and seek out the hottest guy they can get during that week or so after. For the latter, social status is probably the most compelling factor for younger women. Get a blue check on Instagram and watch them jump in your dms.
/r/askTRP13/11/20 09:22 PM
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Meh, imagine you're a girl that has had to majorly repress their sexuality/keep it a secret for the entirety of their life either due to parents or not wanting to be viewed negatively by society. Ironically, it only fuels the urge to fulfill those desires and when they get the chance, they wild out like Bangerz-era Miley Cyrus. At some point they may realize living like that is a miserable existence and that those days are over. Or not. I think the thought of someone else having sex with your gi…
/r/askTRP13/11/20 01:08 PM
3

From ESPN. Really shitty story all around tbh
/r/TheRedPill13/11/20 10:51 AM
5

There are women who don't frequently orgasm from their sexual experiences, and use various forms of pornography to pleasure themselves. Are these women low IQ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 11:45 AM
1

That's a bit complex NGL. Simply said, the 20yo looks better. If you're a guy and have the choice on which woman you approach, you're more likely to feel compelled to approach the woman who looks better
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 11:38 AM
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I dunno about age being irrelevant chief. You probably care about more than just looks, but like you alluded to, the average 20yo woman is probably gonna be better looking than the average 40yo woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 11:26 AM
1

Genuine question: what percentage of those women can he keep around for longer than say, a month?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 03:10 AM
20

Be careful bro, some of these dudes are crazy, especially over a girl as hot as the one you're talking about. For reference, you can look up the story about Christy Mack. Long story short, some guy thinks he's about to have the time of his life fucking a well known porn star, when her pro MMA fighter ex boyfriend gets in the house (via key she gave him, I believe), and nearly murders both of them.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/20 06:37 PM
1

Maybe, all I can say is from my experience, I get less resistance when I try to escalate if I have some clout. We hung out for a couple months, went out/stayed about once every 1-2 weeks. She had 3 months before she went back to school out of state, so we made the most of it before the expiration date. Also, you can validate this IRL if you want. If you take a partner dance class for a month, learn the basics and how to confidently lead the moves, and get a reputation for being a good lead, even…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:15 PM
1

Your issue is most likely your mindset. Check out Marcus Aurelius's Meditations for an intro to stoicism, learn and internalize it, and you'll have less issues. Basically, the way you perceive things going on around you is having too much of an impact on how you feel internally.
/r/askTRP11/11/20 05:26 PM
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You're still in the anger phase. No need to be emotional man, it is what it is. With all due respect, the main reason you were simping for these girls was because you found them physically attractive. Keep it honest, there wasnt really analysis of compatibility with most of them, you primarily wanted to get your dick wet. Specifically, there's nothing of value that any woman can bring you that you couldn't get by yourself. Eventually you'll be able to discern between women that you truly want ar…
/r/TheRedPill11/11/20 02:09 PM
1

I agree, we may actually be saying the same thing. IME, you don’t have to be a mega-superstar. Being a “local celebrity” is good enough. Specifically, if it’s clear people in your immediate environment/community respect and admire you, women definitely take notice. I’ve talked to one girl for like an hour with no rapport being built, and it was a night and day difference in her demeanor when some (3-5) of my friends came through. She asked how I knew “so many” people. In reality, I only knew tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 01:54 PM
1

Probably means a guy that is better than her in some way(s), most likely status.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 11:29 AM
1

Bruv, you just got a haircut. Girls will take their cues from you, if you don’t make a big deal out it, chances are they won’t either. If they do, treat it like a shit test and DARE
/r/askTRP09/11/20 11:59 PM
9

Hit the recommended routine from body weight fitness. Only reqs are a pull-up bar, a place to do rows, and a place for dips
/r/askTRP09/11/20 11:07 PM
3

You’re letting ol girl and her orbiters live in your head rent free. With all due respect, your time and attention are way too valuable to be spent on this, you’d get a significantly greater return on investment focusing elsewhere. Specifically, if you treat work as “get in, put in the time, go home”, you’d most likely progress quicker. If you’re saving money and researching side hustles/investments, you can chart out a plan for financial independence. If you’re working on gaining competence in …
/r/askTRP09/11/20 12:46 PM
1

Are you still ambitious in other parts of your life?
/r/askTRP06/11/20 08:07 PM
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Sounds good in theory. In practice, even if you do let them know from the jump and constantly reinforce that it's just casual, if the girl's into you, they'll angle for a relationship. In regards to the phrasing of the text, it could be that she's just using specific words to make the situation sound better than it is. It's hard to imagine a girl referring to herself as a fuck buddy, even if that's all you ever do.
/r/askTRP04/11/20 10:25 PM
2

What outcome are you expecting? If it is a shit test, just DARE. If she legitimately has to think about when she's free (young girls live extremely disorganized lives), she can just get back to you when she has a day. A response isn't necessary here
/r/askTRP03/11/20 08:30 PM
1

Difference in interpretation of the original quote. I took, “if I could be a kind of guy that can...” to mean that there is something about that guy that a bunch of women would find desirable. It seems like you interpreted it to mean that there’s nothing particularly compelling about the guy or what he has going on in his life, just that he happens to have endless puss. I did not interpret it like that because it sounds so far removed from being realistically possible, to me. In terms of bare ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 07:41 PM
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Turn your read receipts on, and leave her alone with her thoughts Edit: The only way she’ll learn is if she FEELS that she did wrong. She’ll most likely argue with you if you give her any reason, unfortunately. The majority of people aren’t comfortable alone, and will do nearly anything to escape the feeling of boredom
/r/askTRP01/11/20 07:04 PM
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On social media, an average girl is treated like a celebrity.
/r/askTRP01/11/20 01:58 AM
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I feel you. Wanna clarify that I meant no ill will towards you, though I was a bit harsh. I’d say regardless of the medium, it’s definitely worth it to find some way to resolve issues in your life, whether it be stoicism, yoga, therapy, journaling or whatever. You’ll need a way to process and move thru the bad shit, since as a guy, you’ll probably be dealing with a lot of it. Also, it’s 100% okay to be frustrated, though as you point out, there’s probably a more productive way to respond it. I k…
/r/askTRP01/11/20 01:55 AM
1

This is really just opining by you tbh. I understand the sentiment, but it is very unlikely that a guy who has tonnes of women after him won’t have at least a few of those women have feelings for him. You’re telling me that this guy, the ideal man, the guy that every woman says demonstrates that they desire, doesn’t have several women trying to lock him down? C’mon now, are these women dumb? This is likely a 1 in a million guy we’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 06:22 PM
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Bro, you need therapy. What is the point of your life? As in, it sounds like you have no purpose that you’re trying to accomplish, and instead are distracting yourself with women. Most women come and go, why waste time trying to get their validation? The right woman can add tremendous value in your life. Once you know who you are and what you’re trying to accomplish in life, it becomes much easier to vet the people that should be in it. You won’t even be able to see the ones that don’t fit. You …
/r/askTRP31/10/20 03:05 PM
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Some answers I haven’t seen: Logistically women have a great advantage. Apparently 7% of American women are on tinder as opposed to ~17% of American men. That’s basically 3x the amount of dudes. Prolly the more interesting point. Men and women evaluate potential partners differently. While a guy can immediately identify a woman he wants to sleep with (and most likely commit to, since most guys have few options), it seems like the opposite is true for women. Ofc, there are some women that are loo…
/r/askTRP29/10/20 10:18 PM
1

It seems like vidya provides an opportunity to work/grind towards a clear objective. Sometimes with a cooperative element
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 10:03 PM
1

Ah, I see. Just curious, have you ever lived with a woman? if you had a sister you lived with while growing up, expect it to be similar to that. Try to remember to establish boundaries on what clean means in shared spaces, what's okay in terms of noise, what the protocol is for borrowing stuff, etc. Typically with a guy you'll have the same idea of what is and isn't okay, but that may not be the case with your new roommate.
/r/askTRP27/10/20 11:30 PM
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You’re asking for trouble with this one. I personally don’t see the upside here, but the downside is monstrous. Ask yourself: what can this woman do for you that you couldn’t do for yourself? Follow up: what does this woman in particular do for you that any other woman couldn’t? All the details in your question indicate you’re trying to shit where you eat. You’re risking having a place to rest your head over a bundle of emotions that has already shown that she cannot sustain a relationship with …
/r/askTRP27/10/20 10:32 PM
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No worries, I didn’t assume any ill will. Just legit confused haha. I think I was also lacking context on your perspective. It seems like everyone on TRP is banging hot 22yo, so my assumption was that we were talking about younger girls. I could definitely see older girls taking more interest in increased effort. Hope your day gets better my man.
/r/askTRP24/10/20 03:03 PM
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Not sure why you chose to respond to me like that. I’m glad that you wouldn’t actually send that, but I’d have no way of knowing whether you would prior to commenting, I don’t know you. There may be some guy on here that is inexperienced and might try some wild shit like that haha The reason I said trying too hard is bc from the POV of the girl, it’s like, “Why is he saying all this?” It’s obvious from your perspective that you’re taking the piss, but you’re giving ol girl too much information. …
/r/askTRP24/10/20 02:35 PM
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Trying too hard
/r/askTRP24/10/20 01:39 PM
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Gonna be honest, likely nothing’s gonna come from this. It seems like you’re thinking there’s a bonanza of gilfs dying for your Jimmy Dean. Even if they were the type to go for a cub, they’d see you coming, hunting for cougar puss from a mile away. I’ve been approached by women in a yoga class before. Each time I was just minding my business, having fun sucking my down dick in plow position. I think you should evaluate why you have a thing for older women in the first place. Edit: realized I did…
/r/askTRP23/10/20 09:22 PM
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Nah it don’t work like that. If the exposition is off topic, there’s no incentive to keep reading
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 01:19 PM
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I'll go against the grain and say don't bother asking for their numbers. You'll be in a position to decide whether a girl can have something she values (going to the bar and having a fun time). You don't think they'll realize that and try to "persuade" you into making sure they get benefits? What'll likely happen is girls will offer to exchange numbers with you without your doing anything. Specifically, most of them aren't doing it bc they like you, but to text you to see when you're working so …
/r/askTRP17/10/20 11:05 PM
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Listen to Uncle Vas. If she wants to leave, tell her it's unfortunate and you wish her the best. It's easier for you to find someone like her than it is for her to find someone like you, no?
/r/askTRP13/10/20 08:23 PM
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Seems like their not used to guys calling their bluff
/r/TheRedPill07/10/20 01:10 AM
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Hate to break it to you, but that’s bc you accept that. The first time they try to make you their therapist, gotta nip it in the bud. Sooner or later they either get the message or stop associating with you. Both good options imo
/r/TheRedPill05/10/20 03:41 PM
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That’s not her father. That’s her sugar daddy. If you’re tryna save the most time, go up and chat her up. You could ask some basic qs on what she’s doing there, what her plans are for later, or if you have something you’re interested in doing at the resort, you could invite her to that. If she ain’t interested, she’ll let you know pretty quickly. Otherwise, you’re effectively on the same level as those guys thirsting over her. What’s the point of ignoring her? She’ll find some guy that’s fun to …
/r/askTRP04/10/20 10:55 PM
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Touché
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 04:49 PM
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Although that may be effective, this approach might be interpreted as insecurity. If you’re not a guy that is touchy-feely in general, and you’re suddenly like that when this particular guy is around your girl, it may communicate that you perceive that guy as a threat. Otherwise you’d probably just ignore the guy, as if he wasn’t a serious threat/not even worth thinking about.
/r/askTRP12/09/20 10:04 AM
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Not sure if others would agree, but Zac Efron in Neighbors, Brad Pitt in Fight Club, or Cristiano would be good ideals. Basically otter mode if you remember that from the BBF days
/r/askTRP11/09/20 10:00 PM
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Why would you want to? If I were you, I’d focus on finding some purpose/mission in life that was worth my time and attention. As you progress with that, people who are compatible and/or can contribute to that purpose naturally start gravitating towards you. The other option is to spend that valuable time/attention wondering why you can't be bothered with women that contribute nothing to your life other than being attractive.
/r/askTRP06/09/20 12:28 PM
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You pretty much hit the nail on the head, but in plain English, you give her an option, “Either you accept being in my life in this role, or accept that you won’t be in my life at all.” Ofc, if you’re a loser, she won’t give a fuck haha
/r/TheRedPill03/08/20 02:42 PM
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Understandable, if you spend your entire life being valued for simply existing, why wouldn’t you expect to be given 10k+ for something every woman had? Besides, if one guy balks, there’s infinitely more men waiting in the wings. I also think sustainability becomes more of a factor as people age. Typically, for both men and women, people start shifting their mindset toward long-term benefit/life strategy.
/r/TheRedPill26/07/20 03:51 PM
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Same, I thought it was horsehit. You live and learn, I guess. Sounds like you're doing things right man. IDK if I'd buy it when she tells you her friends said that. Girls will be the first ones to tell you "it's hard to find a good man," so when she's telling them about how great you are, you don't think the friends wanna find out for themselves?
/r/TheRedPill25/07/20 12:02 PM
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This is a well written reply. I agree if I were to think about it personally, it'd be a pretty big blackpill. However, as the sayings go, "nothing comes free" and, "all dudes are paying for it somehow" Re: enjoying the decline You're absolutely right, though I will add that a woman never was/would never be the center of my life, and is only a complement to it. She and any other girl could leave at any time and will if she's properly incentivized. But it be like that
/r/TheRedPill24/07/20 03:46 PM
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Bruv, do this: 1. Go on seeking.com 2. Make a free account w/ some garbage email 3. Set the search criteria to 18-24 You will not believe just how many girls are on there looking for Johns sugar daddies. The average girl is 2 missed paychecks away from selling their bodies haha
/r/TheRedPill24/07/20 12:02 AM
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Respect to you for acting ethically. I think the majority of us experience trauma in our lives, and I agree that it's bonerkilling to see someone obviously down and out like that In terms of dating, not really looking for all that relationship jazz, just like hanging out with someone while I'm not working/training. As long as we're both having fun, the train keeps rolling. Besides, if she decided she didn't wanna hang anymore, she'd drop me without hesitation, and I know that, so I'm enjoying it…
/r/TheRedPill23/07/20 10:29 PM
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Agreed, though it should be common sense by now so I didn't think it would be a valuable thing to point out. Similar to how people just like to repeat, "Money can't buy happiness," or, "Winning isn't everything." Those all go without saying. To your credit: I could have done a better job in communicating my intent
/r/TheRedPill23/07/20 10:21 PM
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Agreed, I see what you mean. To clarify: the lessons are embedded in the side bar. I just hadn't seen them exemplified so blatantly in front of me before.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/20 07:41 PM
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Well yeah, it's unreasonable to believe that every single woman on the planet is the exact same. That being said, it is also inefficient to address the case for each and every woman, so we have to generalize at some point. In terms of her demeanor, I wouldn't say she deviates too far from the mean. Of course, I could be wrong.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/20 07:29 PM
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Agreed, to add onto what you're saying: I think incentive is important to consider as well.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/20 07:24 PM
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Fair enough, I see what you're saying. Inb4 "All RelAtiOnSHiPS ARe tRaNSACTioNAl". I don't know if I'd use "normal" there, maybe "naive".
/r/TheRedPill23/07/20 07:22 PM
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