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Yes. Rape is a viable and natural evolutionary strategy. That isn't just true, it's obviously true. That isn't to say it is good, if people reading along need me to point that out. Morality is just not in the scope of this present conversation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 09:20 PM
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Male gender roles are resistant to change because society depends on them to function. How so? This feels directionally true, as disposability should be directly proportional with instrumentality, but could you expand?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 08:02 PM
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Every birth is the result of a selective pressure. Culture is a selective pressure. We haven't escaped Darwin just because we invented romance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 07:54 PM
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Masculinity studies is a burgeoning field, the highest profile person is probably Richard Reeves, so there's something going on there. He reports his feminist colleagues in the ivory tower are awfully fretful about "the man problem." I imagine as men's outcomes continue to deteriorate, and as men increasingly pose a political problem to the centre left coalitions that entrench feminism, they'll start hiring tokenized masculinity researchers, just like how feminist studies was a little boutique f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 06:54 AM
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Many such cases. I'll never forget the MensLib thread from a couple years ago where everyone was like "yeah this stuff has given me a mental illness."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 03:25 AM
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Abolishing gender will change little when our problems stem from our sex; that is, our physical embodiment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 03:06 AM
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Right, which is what annoys me about the manosphere. They keep pointing young angry men to things like the trades, and denigrating academia. It's exactly ass backwards. They should be pointed to academia, to start a long march through the institutions. The playbook is open, and right in front of us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 02:59 AM
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You're being downvoted, but you're right. There's no one else for the buck to pass to. Inconvenient truths are still truths.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 05:43 PM
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Feminism, yes. Women, no, never. They're just people. There's nothing unique about their flaws. If shitty women weren't women, but men instead, they'd still be shitty, just in some other way. So what does their gender have to do with it at all, really?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/26 08:15 PM
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Not weird. Thank you for your vulnerability. A lot of the impacts of this stuff rot away in the dark because we're too ashamed to be frank about these things, or fearful of judgement and rejection.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/26 08:08 PM
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For sure, I just identify those people primarily as "lunatic Palestine supporters" more than I identify them with "the left" in any serious way. It's not like those people have much positive to say about the left or Democrats when they're not screaming at them to do something.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 04:22 PM
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Why is that femicide and not like, partnericide? Do these guys generally go around and kill pregnant women because they're pregnant women? No, they kill them because they're their romantic partners. China's one child policy is what femicide looks like to me, parents killing girls because they are girls, specifically. It can't be reduced to anything else, they're not killing their children, because they don't kill their sons. They're killing girls for being girls.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/25 08:25 AM
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The 1970s are frequently pointed to by people to show how close we still are to women's oppression, and how precarious that makes their station -- how many times have you heard it that women were still barred from having their own credit cards until the 1970s? I hear that repeated in real life. Conversely, the 1970s for men are pointed to by people to show how distant the draft is, and how secure a station men are in. Fun with doublethink.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 04:48 AM
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Well, you have to give the devil his due. The progressives get it right when they say that all politics are identity politics. Which makes it so that we must be very careful about what identities we are playing with.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 06:01 PM
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I remember you because I have one of your comments saved. Thanks for contributing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 05:58 PM
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But it is women's responsibility, just as it was men's responsibility to build a society that worked for women. That's what we're all tiptoeing around. There is no way to cleave men and women from each other. It's a delusion. It seems to me quite trivial to take this response and provide it right back to feminists. Oh society's not working out too well for women? That's a shame. Not my responsibility though. Disgusting. Solidarity was a fucking scam. Let me turn around so you can pull the knife …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 05:30 PM
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What is the cornering, and what's the challenge? Is saying men are evil a taboo? No, it's a Tuesday.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 05:04 PM
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You say "thank you very much, this is a terrific idea. Now, pursuant to these stated goals, what do you think of [this]?" I'm sure most people here can recall an experience where they tried to engage with women's issues, said something unorthodox or clumsy, and promptly had feminists tear their head off and shit down their throats. How did that impact your orientation towards the movement? If you treat people who are trying to help you with contempt for not getting it immediately right, you are …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/25 05:45 PM
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Sure they exist, but you don't create a model around the outlier. "Sexual health is a component of mental health" is broadly true. Pointing to asexual people is like pointing to people who have a functional copy of the L-gulono-γ-lactone oxidase enzyme and concluding that vitamin C isn't necessary for humans to stay alive. It is. But because of that genetic idiosyncracy, someone with that enzyme never worries about citrus. They are already "whole" and do not experience the selective pressure. Th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/25 05:33 PM
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You have an uncommon intellectual honesty.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/25 12:16 AM
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I’ve seen some of them try to “debate” whether it’s fair to send Ukrainian men to die for the nation Personally I was about offended that this sub threatened the erasure of abortion rights simply so that they can take things like conscription or other men’s issues more seriously The people who monopolize legitimacy and authority in the gender equity space don't advocate for or represent the interests of men. They don't act as if there's some common intersexual good that they have to give a shit …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/25 03:10 AM
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It's especially funny because TERFs are transphobic exactly because they're misandrists. Their problem with trans women is specifically that they have a penis, they're very open about that. They're chauvinists who think the only possible reason someone with a penis would want to wear women's clothes and use the women's restroom is to ogle the women and jerk off, and they're so committed to that chauvinism that they're willing to dehumanize and invalidate an entire minority population just to kee…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/25 04:57 PM
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It's very telling of the fact that Bernie Sanders is an old school lunch bucket socialist. Everything he knows about identity issues is what progressive activists have coached him on over the past eight years to try to pump his electability with black primary voters. That Sanders is clueless about men's issues is actually part and parcel of what people like about Bernie Sanders. He's got one message.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/25 01:09 PM
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I loathe how good this specific Trumpism is. That one and "Thank you Kanye, very cool!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/25 03:44 AM
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I'm an effeminate kind of guy and that was my experience in college, except without the follow up, and it's why I could never get all the way on the progressive boat. It's like meeting a bunch of Christians who never shut up about love turn around and sneer at you for being poor, or whatever. It's hard to walk away and still believe they know what they're talking about. Sniping him on Radiohead was totally fair though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/25 03:39 AM
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I don't disagree. I think "rights" talk in general is a groaner to the general public. It shouldn't be framed like that, not in the name, anyways.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/25 03:21 AM
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Making perfect the enemy of good is a viral character flaw of orthodox progressives that we shouldn't copy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/25 03:08 AM
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I think it depends on the type of war. If you would like to invade Vietnam, yeah, you better pay for a professional army. If you're defending against a Russian invasion, you have a classic tragedy of the commons on your hands; everybody benefits from conscription in a defensive war, besides the conscripts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/25 05:12 PM
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Hmmmm
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/25 01:26 AM
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The objectification is in the depiction of male heterosexuality itself; the pop culture feminist, in always emphasizing themes of violence, aggression, threat, and rape, depicts male heterosexuality as little more than an objectification of her own emotions towards it. There are more forms of objectification than sexualization like how we tend to talk with regards to women. Men are objectified via threat narratives.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/25 07:51 AM
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I'd like to clarify that my lack of empathy is not intended to be directed at men and boys but rather what I see as a particularly entitled and self-serving form of men's rights advocacy that denies or ignores the validity of historical prejudice when considering what is just and fair in the world today Why exactly should we care about the legacy of historical prejudice? Nobody treats the legacy of sexism as important in and of itself, it's always defined by referencing other things that are pro…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/25 07:57 PM
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You have a very liberal temperament. I like people like you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/25 10:43 AM
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Support for gender equality frequently polls north of 90%, while support for feminism languishes in the 20s. Imagine you're an entrepreneur in Myrtle Beach, and you have data that says 90% of people want a beach towel for the summer, and you're the only one who has any to sell. You set up your stall, but you only succeed in selling towels to 20% of the residents, despite everybody wanting a beach towel and you being the only game in town. You either kinda fucking suck at selling beach towels, or…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/25 06:58 PM
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It absolutely will. The introduction of women's shelters led to a precipitous decline in husbands murdered by their wives, because instead of killing their abusive spouse, they could get out instead. And yet they won't do it. Because it isn't about helping women. It's about hating men. Nothing else explains a women's rights movement committing to a position that gets women killed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/25 04:13 PM
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I don't blame you for it, but you should care about women, deeply. Don't repeat feminism's mistake. I want us to be better at this than they are. Because honestly they fucking suck at it. Like it wouldn't even be hard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/25 07:06 AM
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Because once you acknowledge that misandry is a structural force in society, the music stops for basically the entire idpol left and feminism in particular, which with its history vis a vis men starts looking an awful lot like a hate movement. You ever wonder why it's toxic masculinity and not internalized misandry, despite a supermajority of men themselves thinking the first term is offensive and the second isn't? There you go. Anything to delegitimize that concept.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/25 06:37 AM
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Good take.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/25 06:19 AM
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Why does feminism have to fight for men's issues? If it's a women's rights movement, it doesn't. If it's a gender equality movement, it does. The feminist is one or the other based on whatever best suits her goals in the moment. When crafting policy, it's a women's rights movement. When doing PR, it's a gender equality movement. But if we're judging feminists by the worst of feminists, then we gotta judge men by the worst of men. And we commit the majority of sexual assault and violent crime, so…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/25 06:10 AM
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Feminism should conceptualize a version of gender equality from women's perspectives. That's totally fine. Men should conceptualize a version of gender equality from their perspective. Where the models conflict should be worked out and compromised on. Ideally, you'll have a system that makes 60% of people happy. That's equality. Versus "I get everything I want the way I want it and you don't even get to participate in the conversation." That might be feminism, but it's not equality, and I'm tire…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/25 06:02 AM
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5: Equality is something you strive for in good times. In times of crisis, other things needs to be prioritized. (Not even kidding) Oh okay so South Korea's got the greenlight to turn their female population into breeding stock then right
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/25 04:58 PM
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Or maybe feminists have conservative psychological states wrt men. Remember, the conservative worldview is one that is motivated primarily by fear and threat. It's really no great mystery that you can watch a progressive morph into a conservative in real time by bringing up men's issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/25 04:41 PM
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Subtle?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/25 09:29 AM
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"Why are you an anti-feminist?" "Because I believe the feminists when they say women are people, and people, given a monopoly on political legitimacy, abuse that in predictable and self-serving ways."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/25 08:34 PM
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The problem you have to overcome is to get people to care about men at some baseline level. Whether you think men ought to be empowered within this paradigm so they might have a chance to survive the meatgrinder, or you think the paradigm should be changed altogether, largely comes down to how much faith you have in other people. I would prefer the paradigm be changed, but I have seen nothing in other people to suggest it's even close to a reality. I've said this before, but the reason I care ab…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/25 08:26 PM
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It's a dated point, not many passenger ships left. You can make the same point in other ways. How many faceless mooks mowed down in any piece of media that you've ever watched have been women? People use violence against women in media to invoke strong passions. Violence against men is used literally for background noise.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/25 07:54 PM
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That's regrettable then. I haven't voted for the Democrats so much as specifically against Trumpism since 2016.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/25 10:09 PM
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Preaching to the choir m8.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/25 09:03 PM
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Tragedy of the commons. Everyone benefits from conscription, except the conscripts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/25 12:25 AM
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You're correct. It's just going to be perceived as aggression.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 06:30 PM
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It's deeply alienating. I've been trying to have this conversation with progressives for ten years. Men killing themselves, suffering deteriorating life outcomes across domains, just the articulation of pain, a failure to flourish, a hundred arguments appealing to progressive principles, nothing. Not a finger raised. The fighting age demographic swings right? Now the sitting governor of Michigan finds it important to tell men how the government is invested in improving their lives. Shakespeare's…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/25 03:14 AM
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It's an awful solution, because it's not a solution at all, it's a "I'd prefer equality, but that doesn't seem to be happening, so I guess it's a free for all. Sucks, but oh well" tactic. But what I hope it's pointing out is the same Achilles heel all of these 21st century left wing identitarian movements have in common: there's no leverage. You can't force the feminists to allow you to participate in a construction of equality when they run the institutions, you can't force people to develop a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/25 02:50 AM
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Equality with women is complicated by the fact that they can succeed in affecting change for themselves through appeals to empathy and solidarity. Neither of these avenues work for men, as both men and women are biased empathetically to women, people are psychologically comfortable with inflicting institutional harm on men, and this wave of feminism has raised an entire generation of women to feel zero solidarity or obligation towards men whatsoever, even as they demand it incessantly. If you ca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/25 01:37 AM
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One of the biggest turn offs is guys trying to act like they're something they're not. And we can usually tell. You'll have to teach other women that trick, apparently they're calling us worse than bears because they can't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/25 11:12 PM
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I think you're wildly downplaying the prevalence of female on male rape, yes. The stats are wildly underreported, for two main reasons. One, because people generally don't have a recognizable model for what it even looks like, and two, because the shame you will feel from yourself and from others if you admit you were raped by a woman is something many men find worse than just suffering in silence about it, or even squaring with the truth of it. They are also underrepresented, as a lot of countr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/25 08:59 PM
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Calvinist, that's a good one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/25 11:29 PM
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I don’t think militant feminists really see us as on the same side. Take the compliment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/25 04:12 AM
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Many feminists believe they know best when it comes to gender based issues and seem insistent on us only being able to solve the issues men face if we view them through the "Feminist lens" and apply feminist principles to solving our issues. Its not that they don't see our perspective.. its that they are incapable of letting us have our own perspective on the issues that we face. This is what supremacist ideologies do, by the way. Gatekeep the generation of legitimate knowledge to deny who they …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/25 04:07 AM
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I say "classical conceptions of gender roles" or, one that they might give you points for, "culturally hegemonic heteronormativity," which is what it actually is. Stop legitimizing "patriarchy." People use it as a motte-and-bailey to smuggle misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/25 03:48 AM
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You're not wrong about the reactionary threads on this sub. It's best to understand it as a liminal space. Engage with what's worth engaging with.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/25 03:44 AM
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In India, female authority figures physically beat the shit out of male children, so they don't become "bad men." In the West, feminism psychologically beats the shit out of male children, so they don't become "bad men." I'm waiting for some feminist at Purdue or something to connect the dots and go "ohhh, I'm actually a conservative."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/25 03:41 AM
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Feminism is a formally articulated ideology that organizes masses of people across domains with ideocrats who have their hands on the levers of real power. The patriarchy at this point is a suite of poorly articulated, frequently contradictory, unorganized cultural norms and mores. These people may as well be talking about the Jewish shadow government.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/25 03:30 AM
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It isn't, it's just a consequence of accepting the premise as something "real" or "factual."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/25 12:29 AM
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They are both mono-perspective conceptualizations about gender equality that privilege one gender's testimony, prejudice the other, and only allow women or men to generate legitimized knowledge about contested concepts, respectively. I'll excuse patriarchy for at least being an unconsciously constructed system. Feminism has no such excuse for its epistemological poverty.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/25 12:09 AM
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Your wife is right, of course. The challenge you're going to run into is that the modern gestalt is uncomfortable giving women agency, because it undermines the idea of patriarchal realism, and women's choices are rather understood to be a summation of the social forces acting upon them rather than coming from an internal locus of control. This is far and away the dominant mode of thinking, so much so that it has metastasized into earnestly held belief, and the only thing that can be really done…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 03:44 PM
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Idk, delusions of grandeur, magical thinking, feels like a manic kind of thing
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/25 01:12 AM
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The guy who runs that sub seems to be clinically deranged.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/25 08:39 PM
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A lot of queer spaces tend to be populated by or commingle with cis women and what cis women see as "women-lite," ie any queer identity that excludes overtly masculine presenting individuals including transmen who pass as cis men. Almost all of modern queer ideology is derivative of feminism, and so feminism's aesthetic judgements, like the gaucheness of masculinity and man-bashing as a currency of political savvy and group membership, come to colour the spaces. Transwomen generally want to fit …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/25 09:05 PM
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I think it's unsurprising More than a few out transwomen have told me, privately, that they are uncomfortable with these things, but are afraid that speaking up about it would cause ciswomen to like and trust them less. “I play along,” one of them told me, “because in the queer community the only people who defend cisboys are cisboys. I don’t want to give up finally being read as a girl.” Another says “I do the misandry stuff because it’s an easy way to earn queer cred points, but when I think a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/25 08:49 AM
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Because the fumes that get vented are frequently disingenuous, vitriolic, and self-indulgent, designed primarily to save your ego above everything else. If you are in a space where people do that and endlessly validate it then you have punched a one way ticket to a very stupid place. That's the harm. It's poor mental hygiene. It's exactly what's wrong with places like 2X.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:42 AM

Dr. K on YouTube. I've grown past his audience, I think, but he's a doctor who not only talks about these things in a way that's both productive and validating but has weekly hang outs and audiences with this demographic. Seems like a really positive project.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 10:05 PM
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Agnostic of anyone's pet cause for explaining it, I'm deeply troubled and increasingly disturbed by the sociopolitical divergence of men and women. I don't think something like this can happen without materially injuring society. I do not like it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/12/24 10:53 PM
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I do think you can successfully argue that there are hegemonic narratives of heteronormativity. I don't think you can argue that there's a patriarchy in any real sense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/24 11:29 PM
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Have you noticed, when a product is marketed in an unnecessarily gendered way, that the blame shifts depending on the gender? That a pink pen made “for women” is (and this is, of course, true) the work of idiotic cynical marketing people trying insultingly to pander to what they imagine women want? But when they make yogurt “for men” it is suddenly about how hilarious and fragile masculinity is — how men can’t eat yogurt unless their poor widdle bwains can be sure it doesn’t make them gay? #Masc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/24 09:04 PM
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It means I advocate for a kind of masculinity and orientation towards being a man that is not characterized by the dogmatics of traditional masculinity but neither the redemptive, repackaged chivalry of "positive masculinity" championed by the modern left, which is just another box. Modern masculinity must be liberating and not compensatory, transformational and not reductive. You can take a crowbar to that and I will struggle to put into words exactly what I mean, and that's because I lack the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/24 11:01 PM
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This vaults laughable and plunges straight into moral grotesquerie. Labour is looking like a one term government, huh
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/24 10:39 AM
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It's a problem because it isn't even true. More young men identify with the label conservative, and more young women identify with the label liberal, but if you drill down into what they actually believe, the differences are marginal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/24 06:52 PM
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This is pretty outright sexist without any qualifiers. It is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/24 07:22 AM
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I remember Lou Dobbs calling Joe Biden a radical leftist. Joe Biden.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/24 11:19 PM
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Notice how voting or legislation is not mentioned in the definition. What do you think "political power" means exactly And what also does it mean for men to control? Imagine your utopic society, an idealized meritocracy, where sexism is no more of an animating force in the minds of people than Byzantine iconoclasm is today. Say an election is held and men control 55% of the seats. Is that society now patriarchal? Is it the identity of men that causes something to be patriarchal, or is it the end…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/24 03:18 AM
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The four death knells of patriarchy in America were: 1919: universal women's suffrage 1940s: mass entrance of women into the workforce 1960: the FDA approves the first hormonal birth control, making the utility of patriarchal norms obsolete 1974: Equal Credit Opportunity Act, which made it illegal to require women to have a male cosigner when applying for credit cards
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/24 03:03 AM
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A patriarchy is a system of power in which that power is invested in male heads of clan structures. Our society does not have patriarchs. So where's the patriarchy? You may point out that the majority of politicians or business elites are male, but this is only consequential and not arbitrary if those men are using the levers of power to advantage men and disadvantage women. Over the past 70 years, the only legislation that is passed that isn't gender agnostic is legislation that advantages wome…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/24 02:48 AM
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Women are outperforming at the Olympics for the States moreso than the men are underperforming, because the quality of international competition is much lower for women than for the men. The average country invests in and has infrastructure for men's sports if it has them at all. Countries like ours with massive women's sports programs from the amateur to the collegiate to the professional and semi-professional and a culture that openly encourages female excellence are at a huge advantage. It's …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 05:06 PM
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So talk about consequential issues instead of painting us like crying tumblrinas being triggered every time they encounter the word "fireman"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/24 08:12 PM
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This issue is actually the begiinning of Srebreniza, Titanic and so on "Men should open doors" is to Srebrenica as manspreading is to rape culture. Histrionic and chronically online.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/24 08:10 PM
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Thanks for saying it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/24 07:43 PM
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You're overly defensive because you posted a weak ragebait tweet made by some Californian nobody about a borderline meaningless cultural convention that more belongs on tumblrinaction and are trying to highbrow it into being a slippery slope to the UN leaving 10k men to die at Srebrenica while they evacuated the women and children. It's like a feminist sub posting a creepshot of a dude manspreading on public transport with a soliloquy on how it reveals that the True Nature of Men is to dominate …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/24 07:42 PM
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I think that is true for the vast majority of men, but Ninja isn't the vast majority of men, he's the 0.1% of men. The more successful you are, the more attractive a target you are to sociopaths, the more you have to lose. I don't think John from accounting needs to worry about this kind of stuff but I think it's fine if hypersuccesful guys like Ninja find it prudent to cover their asses.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 02:59 AM
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Nailed it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/24 01:45 AM
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Don't be a dick That's it, that's the list
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/24 02:35 AM
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A majority of men who commit suicide are found to have been in contact with mental health professionals preceding their suicide. I think it's around ~55%. I think "victim blaming" as a term has been mostly driven into the ground by casual overuse. I just call it the empathy gap in action, and an inability or unwillingness to think about men with any amount of complexity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 06:45 AM
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The worst, in my opinion, is the oft-repeated line about men choosing "more violent" ways to kill themselves which is used to both paint men as uncaring and self-centered because women ostensibly care more about who might find their bodies and to downplay the undeniable fact that men commit the vast majority of successful suicides as nothing but a consequence of "male" impulsiveness and violence You can always tell something is bullshit when multiple discrete logical steps are being employed to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 06:42 AM
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I think you're exactly right in your description and wrong in your prescription. Assumptions that are deterministic of intent are the biggest social virus we have today and are largely responsible for the absolute degeneration of our large scale social discussions. Feminism, though, is not a minority movement in any sense of the word. It is a majority movement. It has a large degree of penetrance with the broader population, it absolutely dominates the academy and major cultural institutions, an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 06:26 PM
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Ideologies are characterized by statements, things you can rationally subscribe to, and where not by statements, by actions. You can generalize about Christians because Christians, generally, hold things in common, of their own volition. That is a feature of ideology, it's uniting. You cannot generalize about women, because as a class of people women are wildly divergent. Being a woman is not a statement of belief nor an action subordinate to a belief. If I tell you somebody is a woman, I have t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 04:34 PM
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Thoughts on women as a whole? Reciprocal. The flip side of the same coin. Do you think about an all-male society or is that insane? Utterly fucking unhinged. Both women and men are inalienable to the human condition. Do you believe feminism has run it's course? do you still believe some areas need it more than others? Depends on where you're looking. In the west it is starting to become the Oil Lobby for Women, divorced of any earnest transcendental goals, uncoupled from any internal consistency…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/24 08:09 AM
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I spend most of my time criticizing the left because I'm on it and I have a vested interest in it getting things correct. In other words, I maintain my house because I live there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/24 06:38 PM
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I feel like there's a pretty consequential difference between "I'm the reason for racism" and "it's my responsibility to oppose racists" that you're just kind of sleight of hand-ing there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/24 08:38 PM
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Places agency on the social movement to improve circumstances rather than outside groups What movement? There is no movement. You're on a sub with less than 20k members. You can't 1:1 your women's and men's advocacy because women have 1) a sense of class consciousness that has been nurtured for over a century, 2) the backing of the academy, and 3) a political machine that expressly lobbies and legitimizes their specific interests. Male advocacy is in the stone age. The goal of my advocacy is to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/24 06:18 PM
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The media calls them right wing because to the pop soc101 narrative young men are mass shooters, incels, irreverent Discord gamers, and loser manosphere denizens, and these young men tend to be right wing. The rest don't exist, they're inconsequential. John the 24 year old moderate Democrat is not what "young men" means. It's a shell game, watch the marble.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/24 07:56 AM
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When I was a kid I felt like most emotional nudging from adults steered me towards manifesting anger as a way to tackle whatever the other emotion was: sadness, fear, shame, disappointment, get angry about it. Fear the most. I don't think I am allowed to express anger as an adult, though. Which is funny because I'm afraid a lot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 06:03 AM
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I like this space because it doesn't require me to kowtow to a strict feminist lens in a ban-happy environment like MensLib and because it has not been completely subsumed by conservative trolls. Not sure how long that will last, though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 09:32 PM
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"Yes means yes" means that consent is considered absent until confirmed. "No means no" means that consent is considered present until revoked. Small, but important differences. The first one puts the onus on the one "doing." The second one puts the onus on the one "receiving." Which one makes more sense depends on the system it is trying to regulate. Take two propositions. I am going to hit you in the head with a hockey stick, versus I am going to give you a hug. Hitting someone with a hockey st…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/24 05:39 AM
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I think you have agreed with them on several points.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:28 AM
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It is rational. It isn't logical.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/24 07:28 AM
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They show as deleted for me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/24 03:35 PM
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I don't feel safe or unsafe so much as I feel cognizant of danger. I think a lot of women in my life would be surprised to know I follow almost all the same rules they do. I preferentially park in well lit areas. I don't accept drinks I didn't see poured. I scope out and am aware of strange men around me. I have a "you don't want to fuck with me" face and walk that I put on when I'm out by myself. The major difference seems to be that I'm not neurotic about it. I give it as much credit as the ac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 11:13 PM
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But I just don’t understand how things like this go viral. I think mostly people underestimate just how much fun it is to shit on people, how enjoyable it is to be an asshole in a manner that is socially acceptable. I don't know why we can't collectively own up to it. I've noticed it in myself, that temptation. Being even-handed and rational is work. It's not fun. The base levels of my monkey brain would much rather have an emotional narrative that privileges my perspective or experience in some…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/24 10:15 PM
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I don't even disagree that railing on feminism can be less than constructive if you want to talk about positive steps that can be taken for men, it certainly can. But the idea that the only way men's problems can be understood or meaningfully discussed is through an orthodox feminist lens is just absurd.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/24 06:57 AM
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I don't know a word other than tragic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/24 04:39 AM
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you can't be left wing let alone a male advocate for that matter. And here we find the largest obstacle to the left wing ever being able to do a goddamn thing
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/24 06:28 PM
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I’ll also point out that seeing a suicide rate increase of 72% over 20 years is alarming Jesus. Yeah alarming is one word.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/24 08:14 PM
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People have always, I mean always, cared bout sexual violence. It has rarely been a dismissible sort of thing. It is a central feature of the species’ modes of fear mongering rather explicitly towards racist, bigoted, sexist, classist, cultural chauvinistic and tribalistic ends. One of the big lies in feminism and within the broader discourses is the pretense that people don’t care bout sexual violence. People might selectively care bout it, they might use it to target this or that group, but th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/24 06:35 PM
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I guess what I'm trying to say is that the "what is good for people" discussion contextualizes and informs the "what is good for men/women" discussion by giving it a destination and necessary constraints. You cannot have infinite degrees of freedom around what it is to be a man or a woman because men and women do have fundamental differences and society is by its nature collaborative, there are some reciprocal responsibilities that are normative that we have to each other. And when those interes…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/24 11:33 PM
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As with most things, what we have in common far outshines what our differences are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/24 09:32 PM
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I'm so sick of having this conversation 'what is good for women' / 'what is good for men' And I'm really ready to have this conversation what is good for people in general "How would you construct society if you had no idea who you were going to be in it?" That's a question worth our collective talents. Much of my consternation about the dialogue today is that it boils down to "how can I get the most for me and mine while giving the absolute least possible to others?" Too many rights, not enough…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/24 09:31 PM
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I see it more as a reactionary cultural impulse from Me Too. You don't have to go back very far to find a landscape where rape cases weren't politicized enough to even have an emotional orthodoxy attached to them. Today they are like the entire cause of female liberation in microcosm, so people become very emotionally invested when discussing them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/24 04:56 PM
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The article is even worse than the headline. You can't make this shit up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/24 07:06 AM
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I don't think people want men to be guilty so much as they really want to believe women are telling the truth. I think there's a small but important distinction there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/24 07:02 AM
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Btw, it's true: as a man, no one will ever care about your mental health. I've learned to keep quite about this topic as people simply do not care This is not true, they do care. They care that it makes them uncomfortable to hear about, and they care that an expression of suffering carries a social expectation to help, which they do not want to be burdened with.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/24 05:42 PM
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You're not wrong. I've lost two relationships with women because I disclosed my bisexuality. The funny thing is that one of them was also a bisexual woman LOL. You can actually see the disgust in real time. Because femininity is treated as intrinsic, while my masculinity is something I'm liable to lose at any moment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/24 04:02 PM
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Do we even know that arranged marriages are less happy than independent marriages?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/24 06:43 AM
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I don't really get it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/24 01:32 PM
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What happened to equity? Society won't be fair for women until they're 50% of garbage people, the result must be mandated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/24 06:33 AM
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The older gender role only made sense as a way to protect children, women are protected by proxy of a child requiring a caretaker and by being materially worse at making war. Protecting children is still sensible. If you are going to keep conscription, make it unisex but with a waiver for mothers of one or more children, because female infantry does remain suboptimal, so the opportunity cost of not using men is just higher. Those are balanced interests. Has to be one or more children because in …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/24 04:54 AM
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You feel that way because it uses the same devices that astrology does. The self-insert is a tragic heroine, cursed by importance. This is how we like to imagine ourselves, saddled with the world. It's a honeypot, a fortune cookie. Everybody relates to it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/24 04:34 AM
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It's because calling yourself a 10 when you're not a 10 isn't perceived as being confident, it's perceived as being insecure. Confidence is attractive, that's just not what confident behavior is. Is Uncle Rico being attractively confident when he says he can throw a football over the mountains? No, because it's obviously not true. Is the lady in the video being attractively confident when she says she's not perfect in front of a group? Yes, that does take confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:08 PM
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I agree with you, and operate in the world in a similar way, but you can take people in a room, ask them to match with each other, and, absent any other information, they will pair up on similar levels of perceived conventional attractiveness. It's a social reality, something people are attuned to, consciously or otherwise. He's saying there are people 80% of the population are going to find attractive, and people 20% of the population are going to find attractive, and that can be stratified, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 11:06 PM
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I really don't have a particular issue with "whores" exactly, your relationship with your sexual identity is your business, and you're the captain of your own ship and all that. But that goes for me as well. I did the casual and fwb things for a bit in my early 20s and didn't enjoy it at all. Made me feel cheap and fake. If you enjoy it, cheers, that's your prerogative, but I want to be with someone who understands sex similarly to how I understand sex. I want it to mean the same thing to my par…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/07/20 06:38 PM
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Why is a relationship always conflated with just fucking when women talk about "the friendzone" I've always found that pretty demeaning.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/19 12:55 AM
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I worked in the ER for 3 years and dated a couple of them, the work environment is like a high school cafeteria. Gossip and drama and lots of posturing with other nurses and the MDs. If you don't participate you get ostracized. Turns normal people into Mean Girls. Clearly it's not ALL nurses, nothing is all anything, and is probably more true for ER nurses than floor nurses.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/19 10:01 PM
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It's just a tactful way to tell you that they have them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/19 06:29 PM
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You forgot Nurse. Protip, NEVER date a nurse.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/19 06:28 PM
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I've put my dick in crazy many a time. The trick is not to leave it there.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/08/19 04:14 PM
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I mean, being able to write isn't an uncommon characteristic in university educated people.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/19 07:06 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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