846hpo Archive

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1	How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is real I initially brought up my relationship as one example to counter the “men are always bothered by this” narrative you and other commenters were touting, along with other non personal points. You responded to this by singling out the anecdotal point and issuing weird challenges to me and saying I probably wasn’t correct about my own experience. Why would I not defend the personal points you were addressing? We can speak more generally if you like. I agreed quite a while ago that it does matter to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/21 07:11 AM
0	How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is real there’s no reason to react that strongly to any body count, unless you’re super insecure. And insecurity shows up in other ways, if that were the case, it wouldn’t just pop up from this one thing after years. I don’t blame anyone for getting into those situations, since a lot are frog in a boiling pot type of build up, but in this case, I can safely say there are no warning signs that would be the case. I can’t speak for other people/relationships, but you seem to have a hard time believing that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/21 06:41 AM
1	How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is real Surprised, maybe, but no I don’t think he would react badly at all. But think of it this way. You’ve been in a happy monogamous relationship for multiple years. No one is straying or expressing a desire to sleep with others. 5 years in, you find out they slept with 50 people. Different scenario, you find out you were their first. Does either one change your lived experience of the relationship and whether your current relationship goals align with your partner’s? No. You knowing that information…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/21 06:19 AM
2	How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is real I’m not gonna do your request because I’m not going to lie to someone I love and play weird games to prove my point to a Reddit stranger. I respect him too much for that. if you don’t believe I know how he feels about this topic, despite knowing nothing about our relationship, how long we’ve known each other, or what conversations we’ve had around sex, because apparently you think men are a hive mind on this topic, then so be it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/21 05:48 AM
2	How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is real What? What would that prove? My point is, if it mattered to him he would have asked by now. I already know it doesn’t matter because he hasn’t asked or implied any sort of insecurity on that front in the years we’ve been together. If he had been overly concerned about it early on, that would have been a red flag to me and we would never have made it this far.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/21 05:31 AM
2	How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is real Regardless of how cultural norms continue (and I’m not so pessimistic to think body count won’t get less important, as it already has somewhat over the past 50 years) , there will be plenty of women who choose to buck conventions and do what they want. Women are used to being scrutinized for their choices. Believe me, we are aware how people perceive us for things like that. You don’t have to date them; they don’t have to date you. And it’s not your or any other man’s job to give them guidance o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/21 03:07 AM
1	How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is real I’m not saying they ARE seen the same if they have many partners, I’m saying they SHOULD be. Having lots of partners is looked down upon by men and women in our current society. But in reality, the number of people someone sleeps with prior to their current partner doesn’t affect anyone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/21 11:39 PM
1	How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is real Your last sentence needs citations Edit: the median numbers too, curious where you found that stat, as most I find are on averages, or don’t have that wide of discrepancy. The thing about medians, is all you need is one outlier at the high end of your sample and it shifts the whole median up. If you look at averages, it’s about 7 for both men and women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/21 11:37 PM
1	How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is real Sure, but like you said, someone with that many partners is more an outlier than a rule. And I don’t know this person’s specifics, but the mental health issues may or may not have been related to why she had 300+ partners, and one didn’t necessarily cause the other. But in general, yes a lot of the people that accuse women of being “promiscuous” are talking about people who have 10-30 partners. That might be like one a year. I also am not claiming people change at the drop of a hat. Anyone who j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/21 08:31 PM
0	How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is real You say this like it’s fact, but how often does this actually happen? The closest I can think of is cases here and there where a woman is in a bad relationship but lacking the push to leave, meets someone else she sees fairly often (like a coworker or something), and over time, because of seeing how the new person treats her in comparison, gains confidence about other options and leaves. I don’t think I’ve ever heard about this happening in one evening, and never when the relationship was solid …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/21 05:59 PM
4	How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is real Jeff Bezos’ wife divorced him because he was cheating. Loyalty doesn’t mean blindly staying with someone who no longer respects you or your marriage vows. It’s not like people go into a marriage anticipating a lengthy, painful divorce. They also married a year before he founded Amazon, so the marriage wasn’t for his money...	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/21 05:52 PM
4	How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is real I would caution against blanket labeling a woman as “promiscuous” or saying any person is “by definition” anything. You’re implying that if someone slept around a lot at one point in her life, that’s an indicator of her priorities and personality for the rest of her life. Plenty of men sleep around a lot in their 20s and then want to settle down in their 30s or so, and they don’t get labeled as “a bad investment” or being likely to cheat. People’s desires often change over time and circumstance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/21 05:39 PM
1	How can loyalty exist if hypergamy is real I think you’re under the assumption that sex is the most valued thing in a relationship to women. I don’t agree that it would be difficult to get caught cheating, but to play along, let’s assume every woman can go to a bar and have a fling with zero chances of getting caught. There are still tons of reasons not to do that: - she loves her partner - getting caught aside, it’s still something generally considered wrong, and would probably make her feel guilty - not worth stds, pregnancy, some stra…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/21 05:30 PM
2	Will women really make a guy waits months for sex in order to “develop an emotional connection”? Idk, I think there are lots of reasons some women want to wait to have sex (religion or just generally traditional upbringing, past traumatic experiences around sex making it take a long time to get comfortable with each person). And people may have different feelings and experiences around this at different points of their lives. I don’t think that not having sex right away = not attracted, and I don’t think sex needs to be held up as this major sticking point in the early stages of a relations…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/21 09:00 PM
1	Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown” No. I mean, the stat was that women with prior sexual partners are more likely than men with prior sexual partners are to cheat in a long term relationship. It’s not the greatest overall indicator of infidelity (studies on this topic list primary indicator as poor communication or lack of emotional connection). So if by consequences, you mean men may turn down a woman because she has previous partners, I personally think it’s a bit silly, but it’s within everyone’s right to turn down whoever the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/21 03:12 PM
0	Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown” Yeah, I don’t care how anyone “reacts to these choices”. And oh no, you ruled me out as a marriage partner (despite knowing the number of partners I’ve had). Woe is me. Let’s break this down. You said yourself that there are other factors besides premarital sex, but we are talking about one study and one factor related to divorce rates. You said feminism must be at odds with science. You said this in response to me saying the feminist statement is to not have a strong opinion on amount of premar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/21 07:32 AM
1	Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown” I think you’re lacking basic reading comprehension. I never said the data that was presented doesn’t exist or is wrong. I’m questioning the intentions of the post, the assumptions and claims it gives as reasons to showcase this particular data, and what you and OP drew from said data as the conclusion. You are making an assumption that your ideas are supremely rational bc you thought them up, but there are other factors and context at play here, which I am pointing out	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/21 07:11 AM
1	Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown” It’s ok, it happens. Happiness is a tough word in English. We use it for short term happiness, long term satisfaction, glee. There’s probably a better word for my point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/21 07:01 AM
2	Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown” No. No good marriage ends in divorce. It’s not like anyone goes into a marriage expecting it or wanting it to end, but life happens, people change, and relationships become toxic. Obviously divorce is difficult and often sad, but nothing is morally wrong with it, and it’s often to the benefit of both parties. So, X thing causes less divorce. So what? A better measure would be if X thing causes greater happiness /satisfaction/quality of the couple while married. Otherwise, those higher rates of m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/21 06:54 AM
-1	Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown” No, dude. You aren’t just recognizing a fact. You’re fixated on one factor correlating with divorce rates and posing that as the signature problem. Several other things to consider here: Why is it important for men to care about factors related to divorce rather than women? I’m assuming this is related to some perceived idea of men losing money/alimony/child support in divorce. Ok let’s look at other solutions: don’t get married sign a prenup don’t have sex with unmarried women (takes two to tan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/21 06:47 AM
0	Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown” I don’t see what this has to do with my point. “Marriage is supposed to be [insert opinion here]” is always subjective, and I’m referring to the couple’s overall reported happiness with the marriage, not what they were or weren’t trying to gain when they went into it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/21 06:32 AM
0	Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown” There can issues with divorce in an institutional/legal sense, yes. But the concept of divorce is not morally wrong. It’s just a breakup.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/21 06:29 AM
-2	Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown” Let me be clear: I am saying the feminist position in this would be to not make a fuss about how many people women sleep with, whether it’s someone saying it shouldn’t happen or should. I am saying OP is overstating the frequency that feminists argue that women SHOULD sleep around before marriage to reduce cheating. That’s not a common argument at all. The reality is more that feminists say women CAN sleep around before marriage, and shouldn’t be judged for it. There isn’t really a benefit to tr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/21 06:26 AM
16	Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown” Yeah I’ve never heard this as a common argument. I have heard things like “number of past sex partners shouldn’t matter”, which I personally agree with, but to feel so strongly about how many people women have sex with, whether you’re advocating for 0 or 100, seems antithetical to feminism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/21 02:47 AM
9	Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown” What’s wrong with divorce, though? Lack of divorce does not necessarily mean higher rates of happiness in marriage. There could be other factors such as religious conservatism causing a stigma against divorce. Your statement is just correlation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/21 02:43 AM
1	Woke college educated women should date down men in terms of income and status. Fair enough!	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/21 03:15 PM
2	Woke college educated women should date down men in terms of income and status. I agree that communication is a big part of relationships and agree with your point mainly. You mentioned that you feel like college educated people are throwing in big words to be difficult - My mom is from a low income, rural, farming family and she was the first to go to college. She has a bunch of degrees and works in academia now. She’s somewhat estranged from her family now bc they all say she thinks she’s better than them and can’t relate as well. It’s not true, she just really loves lite…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/21 02:25 PM
10	Woke college educated women should date down men in terms of income and status. So, your prompt implies that this never happens. That college educated women don’t ever date blue collar workers or people who make less money than them. It also implies that the electrician men in this situation are waiting in the wings for a lawyer girlfriend, which may or may not be true as well, and implies that the women are solely making this dating decision rather than the men having a say if they want to date these high achieving women or not. [insert common complaint about men feeling t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/21 02:12 PM
5	Missing out and making up for it I didn’t say that 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/21 04:47 AM
4	Missing out and making up for it I’m not convinced you actually read what I wrote, but go off dude. 👍	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/21 04:35 AM
4	Missing out and making up for it I’m just making a comparison to the same experience from different genders’ perspectives. This is a debate sub, no? Also, I didn’t use the word victim. Women being the physical property of men was a literal legal reality in the past, and my argument is it caused certain aspects of gender dynamics today. This includes a sense of entitlement towards sex and relationship from men (hence why , and it also includes things like women expecting financial support in relationships from men. Neither of th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/21 04:31 AM
7	Missing out and making up for it I mean, I (f) didn’t date until half way through college, much less high school, and I don’t have some complex about being owed a relationship to make up for it. Yes, there is pressure in media and real life for depictions of perfect high school romances, but I’d argue that pressure is just as much on girls as boys - to have a perfect prom date or promposal, to have all the romantic milestones when your friends do. I know it’s anecdotal, but there doesn’t seem to be a major movement for this phe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/21 09:54 PM