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On an individual level it’s fine and there’re zero moral issues with it. In fact, it’s better for everyone if women acknowledge the importance of physical attraction from the start than deny their own feelings, enter relationships in which attraction isn’t there and eventually become unsatisfied in the relationship. On the other hand, it’s hard to deny that there’re negative societal consequences that come with it. Men have always openly cared about looks, but they find a much larger share of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:40 PM
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Scammaxxing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:29 PM
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Anecdotal of course, but the question is asking for personal experiences: in every white-collar job I’ve had the women get treated significantly better by male bosses than the men. In all fairness, the opposite has also been true in my experience: women colleagues get treated worse by female bosses than the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:45 PM
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Yeah, I genuinely find arguing with strangers on the internet fun. It’s obviously not a productive activity, but it’s also not necessarily “toxic” or damaging to one’s mental health anymore than watching reality TV or watching a sports game is. I think many of those who smugly tell others to “touch grass” or leave the sub are projecting or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:38 PM
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> Agreed, although the next question is how to tell if a man has "serious intentions." I would say that if he is willing to introduce you to his friends and family; and willing to wait for sexual intimacy, then it's pretty likely he has serious intentions. Traditionally, women didn’t give sexual access to men until he had courted her enough and committed to her. Nowadays, as women typically are willing to give sexual access early, it’s essentially a process of trial and error: a) Ask him and hop…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:33 AM
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As a man: the kind of woman you can consistently attract. As a woman: the kind of men who consistently pursue you for dating with serious intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:17 AM
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Yes, with caveats: I don’t think I’ve ever heard useful dating advice from any of my women friends, except for more simple stuff such as date planning ideas, etc. Not mentioned in this post but typically done by those who advocate for female friendships, the idea that they’ll set you up with their friends is highly overstated; no matter how good friends you’re with a woman, she won’t help you out with her friends unless she considers you to be a worthy attractive man - so if you aren’t having su…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:57 PM
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Understandable, sometimes parents (especially in certain cultures) can rely way too much on the teenage children to help with the younger children, but based on what I’ve seen I think it can be done in a healthy way that doesn’t require giving up their childhood/adolescence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:32 PM
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In most big families I know (4+ children) the older siblings tend to have a major role in supporting the parents in raising the youngest ones. That, or they’re rich and have nannies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:24 PM
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Yes, “rich guy and Starbucks barista” is a myth propagated by poor men who have never been around wealth people. OTOH, I have lately been noticing that it has become surprisingly common for rich women (or from rich family) to date and even marry non-rich guys (not necessarily poor but anywhere from slightly less rich to middle-class). Purely anecdotal and may just be happening in my area/circles, but I’ve certainly seen a lot of such cases in the last couple of years in a way that I remember onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:51 AM
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The story is obviously fake lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 09:39 PM
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Only if her cannons are better than my wife’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:53 PM
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Sex is enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:13 PM
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Weirdly enough really hot women ( hot as in attractive and not sexualized valley girl nonsense ). generally have lower body counts and mental issues. Definitely true for “body counts”, good looking women typically tend to have higher standards for men, are often in less need of validation (not saying promiscuous women do so for validation/insecurity, but it certainly happens with some), and are often judged very harshly by fellow women so are more wary of doing “wrong” things out of fear of bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:26 AM
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Ideally, I don’t think it should be a percentage as much as an entry ticket: first there must be genuine physical attraction, from there on, other aspects are to be considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:11 AM
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True, and for a more controversial take I’d add that: Not caring about looks at all=shallow too. Entering a relationship without genuine physical attraction is shallow, selfish and a disservice to the other person. Doing so means entering a relationship for pure convenience (whether because the other person is “nice”, has money, is fun or whatever) while forgoing a fundamental aspect of monogamous relationships - the sexual component, which to succeed, requires physician attraction otherwise the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:02 AM
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Yeah, rational/intellectual explanations from both sides about attraction to young women are always absurd - whether it’s “young women are nicer and have less baggage” or “evil old man wants young woman to manipulate and/or can’t get one his own age”. The explanation is actually rather simple: young people are hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:22 AM
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The even bigger challenge is that it’ll probably disappear because it can’t compete in popularity with The Black Pill amongst the youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:26 PM
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Claiming that men, on average, have low standards while individually maintaining high standards is not a contradiction in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:16 PM
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If you’re an average citizen of a developed country, you have to largely rely on very silly arguments to prove that you “have it hard”, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:42 PM
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False analogy. In your example, you're not into bestiality yourself so you won't come across as a hypocrite if you reject such women. The point is that it’s not a rational or logical exercise nor supposed to be one. In the bestiality example, the attraction is lost regardless of me intellectually being okay with it, her fetish having no impact whatsoever on her lifestyle or relationship and me having nothing against those who are into such thing. A bisexual woman is someone who indulges in bisex…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:07 AM
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You’re literally comparing bisexuality to beastiality and trying to claim you aren’t biphobic I’m comparing them insofar as to make the point that a person’s sexual preferences or tastes, valid as they might be, and as irrelevant to their lifestyle, can affect one’s perception of them as an attractive individual. That doesn’t mean that I have anything against women who are into animals (provided they don’t act on it); just like a bi woman who can’t be attracted to bisexual men necessarily has an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:30 AM
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So? If I became aware that a woman I'm dating is also into dogs I would geniunely lose all attraction towards her instantly even if she had never engaged in bestiality. Even if I deliberately wanted to, I have a hard time believing I'd be able to be into this woman. It'd be irrational because her fetish has no "material" meaning in this scenario but I can't force myself to being attracted to her while posessing that knowledge about her - it's something I can't control, not a decision I made. Jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:17 AM
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A person's non-physical traits can enhance or diminish attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:33 AM
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Maybe, the point still remains the same. Whether natural or socially imposed standards, as an individual you don't choose who you are attracted to; and who you find attractive or not can't be hypocritical because attraction is inherently non-logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:17 AM
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Social norms greatly affect human sexality. Im sure at one time it was looked down upon for women to explore homosexuality aswell. Sure, but at the individual level you’re going to have little choice on what you’re attracted to - whether it’s due nature or social norms that have been imposed upon you. It’s a fundamentally irrational process. However female bisexuality has been normalized to the point where it's promoted and seen as cool. Is it? I think most men find bisexual women “hot” and “coo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:15 PM
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Attraction is inherently based on raw nature and/or emotions, it is not a choice or a belief-system; it is not hypocritical to not find someone attractive solely they share certain characteristics with someone. Unless the woman in question also believes that said bi guy is immoral or worth less as a person, it is not hypocritical to simply not find him attractive and thus unwilling to date him. Likewise with the fat person example - nothing wrong with being fat and finding other fatties unattrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:01 PM
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Men want to have sex with the attractive women? I can’t believe it!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:49 PM
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Dad comes from a very wealthy family so always had money and my mom comes from extreme poverty. Their marriage is one of the very rare instances of the “rich man - poor barista/waitress/gas station attendant” meme actually happening, and the even more . So I definitely grew up upper-class. OTOH, I was always very close to with mom’s side of the family and due to rebelliousness and hobbies grew up with less privileged friends. It may sound like an attempt at being edgy or something, but I do cred…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:36 AM
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Did it? I think it just got mainstream and people who aren’t “in the know” like the media and general public use The Black Pill and TRP interchangeably. There is of course a much bigger focus on looks in TRP and lower in “game” than back in the day, but I think anyone who considers themselves to be “RedPilled” would believe in the importance of status, “keeping frame” and being “Alpha” to have success rather than reducing everything to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:01 AM
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This is… indistinguishable to TRP except for the prostitutes part.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:58 AM
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If they believe so, then it’s reasonable for them to not want American immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:16 AM
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Sure, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume that those who suscribe to liberal values are less likely to be inclined to do so than those from extreme religious or uneducated backgrounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:47 AM
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Sounds like you agree with me then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:44 AM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:35 AM
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It is an implicit assumption that such an event is sad, I don’t know what writing the same would contribute. There’s a reason why “thoughts and prayers” as a response is always mocked. instead of instantly complaining about open borders I did not complain about open borders. My point is that the most I can do about the situation is, as a citizen, to try to prevent men from places where these things occur from coming and potentially doing the same here. The lack of empathy men have for women is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:29 AM
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When men think they will escape repercussions, far too many choose sexual violence. Did I ever claim the opposite? The law and the State exist to keep a significant share of men from engaging in violence and hurting others one way or another. I don’t think anyone would disagree with that statement. With education and cultural progress the number of men inclined to engage in those acts is reduced, but there will always be plenty with such inclinations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:09 AM
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Yeah, men coming from uncivilized places should not be allowed to migrate into the west, barring exceptional circumstances that demonstrate they fully commit to western liberal values.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:51 PM
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What more is there to understand? There’re bad men in the world, often fueled by backwards ideologies or religions, such as those committing these acts in Ozoro, what am I, or any other normal human being in the west, is supposed to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:46 PM
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We should ban immigration of males from cultures where these sort of soccur regularly. I don’t know what else am I expected to say or do that would prevent such atrocity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:40 PM
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It’s not MAD when one side loses little or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:45 AM
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The only thing more embarrassing than your wife cheating on you must be your wife trying to cheat on you and getting refused.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:44 AM
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Arguing with strangers on the internet is fun though
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:34 PM
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It is generally assumed that if you, as a man, can convince a woman to have sex with you, you are more likely than not to get her to stay with you for a relationship if you were so inclined. The implication, therefore, is that a promiscuous woman has been unable to secure commitment from all those men despite giving them sexual access. Accordingly, it’s not that she chose you over the rest, but that you chose her while the rest did not despite her attempts. One can disagree with that, but that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 12:17 AM
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I think you’re confusing one’s “type” with one’s “league”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:45 PM
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In my experience, a significant amount of young men believe that what you can “offer” doesn’t matter - because what ultimately matters is whether you’re one of, or a combination, of good-looking (which roughly translates to the “BlackPill”), charismatic, ability to manipulate, have status, etc. (which resembles TRP). Therefore, there’s little point or reward in trying to “offer” more. As for the demands, the general idea is that if you’re from the select group of men who are able to consistently…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:41 PM
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True, that’s what I attempted to say in my last paragraph but you summed it up much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:58 PM
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This is a weird internet piece of advice that I’ve never seen play out in real life. The men I know who get the most women are obsessed with them. To the point that I’d argue that chasing women, and dealing with the drama that it entails, is their main hobby. What they are not is overly agreeable or trying to be liked in the safe “NiceGuy” kind of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:10 PM
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I feel like this is an issue made-up on the internet. Besides bars, parties and nightclubs, when was that time when approaching unknown women in public was that common? I feel like it was always a very rare thing, just like it is today but nowadays women romanticize it because they’ve seen happening in RomComs starring attractive actors and men use it as an opportunity to complain about the excesses of #MeToo and feminism (“see we would approach but you made it impossible because of #MeToo!”).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:36 AM
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Im not even sure what point you’re trying to make, are you saying that caring about looks in a potential dating partner is the same as being obese / pro-fat acceptance? If so, it’s a bad analogy because being morbidly obese is objectively unhealthy whereas physical attraction is necessary for a successful romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:36 PM
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Sure, but that’s not the case here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:30 AM
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The standard BP stuff I see online on the subject is: To judge women who care about looks and call them “shallow”. Claim that such “shallow” women are a minority amongst women. Since they’re supposedly a minority, a man should not worry or be discouraged at being rejected by them because they’re not worth it - “you dodged a bullet” being a typical cliche I see online. None of those things are true: 1) caring about physical appearance isn’t shallow; 2) women do care about looks; 3) It’s okay to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:37 PM
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Religious people tend to marry young. Above a certain age, the only single religious people are going to be converts or those who “came back” to religion, likely after a wild past that led them to “find God”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:19 PM
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This has to be one of the craziest posts I’ve seen on this sub, and that’s saying something. One can argue that the risk of paternity fraud is highly overstated for fearmongering, even misogynistic if you want, purposes on the “manosphere”; but to claim that when it does happen is no big deal because of some DNA percentages is a clinically insane position.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:08 PM
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I don’t know a single man, and I know many, with highly promiscuous pasts who struggle dating. Even if she’s bothered by it, any man who has been able to have sex with so many women almost certainly has something that makes her compromise on that (whether it’s straight up sociopathic manipulation skills, looks or status). I don’t actually think women are lying or virtue-signaling when they claim on the internet that they don’t want men with high N counts; I think they do believe that theoretical…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:58 PM
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The most attractive men I know happen to also be well-off. They have zero interest in 50/50 or getting paid even if they theoretically could work - which I don’t think it would, at least at the early stage of dating; even for “Chad”. Honestly, I think most normal men are just genuinely not wired to be interested in such an arrangement. The few I know who tend to pull stuff like that, tend to be grifters or con artists in the general sense - I have an acquaintance who is good looking but not “Cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:52 AM
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People can ocassionally make jokes or laugh about the opposite sex without it necessarily meaning that they dislike the other sex. The same goes for the online right-wingers who get offended at any "men suck" joke made by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:53 PM
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Honestly, I don’t think this would work the way women think or hope it’ll do - regardless of one’s opinion on this. Above-average men with options would just stop using these dating apps, and only desperate unattractive men with no choice would go around paying “deposit fees” for dates. I genuinely can’t imagine any of the men I know who are attractive/wealthy/high-status going through all this trouble just for a first-date with a random woman; or wanting to deal with a woman who charges a “depo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:29 PM
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You generally can’t, but: It’s a theoretical discussion like a lot of the debates and hypothetical scenarios we see on this sub, you can’t also know precisely whether a woman has a high “body count” or not but there’re thousands of questions and debates about it on this sub. A lot of relationships arise from people who are in the same or connected social circles, especially at a younger age, so both persons generally can have at least a rough idea of the other person’s dating and even sexual his…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:52 AM
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Generally speaking, the problem men have isn’t that a woman won’t have sex with them on the first date; it’s a woman that has sex with other men on the first date but not with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 12:52 AM
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No, and even the most degenerate/misogynistic men I’ve come across don’t do it tbh. Assholes do often share intimate pics of women they’re hooking up with casually or their exes (“revenge porn”), but I’ve never heard of men sharing intimate pics of their girlfriends/wives. In general, I think most women would be surprised at how little men share details of their sexual lives with other men when it comes to their LTR, especially compared to women and their friends do lol (there’s a very good HIMY…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:06 PM
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This is like a sitcom There’s actually a Modern Family episode like this
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:07 PM
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Courting worked in the past because women were expected to hold off sex for everyone - including the guys they were attracted to - as giving sex without commitment was socially shunned. Courting wasn’t a strategy to get her to find you attractive; it was a strategy to convince her of your commitment and value as a long-term prospect and thus she could feel confident and safe in acting on her attraction and sexual desire by having sex. Nowadays when there’s little societal pressure against casual…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:35 PM
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Because being friends with someone you desire romantically is going to be frustrating, if not psychologically destructive. There’s a huge difference in a normal friendship and a “friend zone” kind of friendship, which tend to lead to a massive imbalance. Like imagine turning up to the club with multiple women Yeah, unless you love one of those women and now you’ll spend the night seeing her flirting and dancing with other dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:46 AM
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The real conclusion of the scenario is that in both instances you’re almost certainly going to be fine and people should stop being afraid of things they shouldn’t be. The chances that: You’ll encounter a random man in the woods. Said random man is a rapist/killer. He’ll decide to act on it in that moment. Are incredibly low. Likewise, the chances that you’ll encounter a bear and said bear will attack you rather than leave are also extremely low (unless we’re talking about a polar bear). You are…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 10:05 PM
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Courting existed because societal expectations were such that a woman would have to always “play hard to get” - even when she was attracted to a man, she couldn’t just give herself to him because she’d be socially shunned; said man had to court her even if he was “Gigachad”. Fortunately, nowadays that’s largely not true, women have the freedom to engage romantically and sexually with whomever they want. Therefore, if you have to “court” a woman, it almost certainly means she’s not attracted to y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:07 AM
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It is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:45 AM
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Yeah, I genuinely don’t know which “Third Spaces” existed 30 years ago that don’t exist these days besides suburban malls - and even then, it was teenagers who socialized at those places back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:32 PM
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I think that the sleep around/don’t sleep around advice and internet debate is a bit moot. My experience is that the overwhelming majority of women are wired to be into it or not - no in between. Those who are, aren’t going to be swayed by conservative advice or culture and those who are not won’t be by these types of people. Be it as it may, I don’t think the advice is good. While there’re plenty of good men willing to marry a woman with a promiscuous past (unless you were a literal sex worker)…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:48 PM
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Besides the gym and skincare, there’s not much you can do to improve your looks. And even then, the improvement is unlikely to be dramatic unless you were obese or extremely skinny. Rarely does plastic surgery actually help.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:53 AM
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I don’t know, maybe I’m misunderstanding the point, but have you never met gay men? They have incredibly easy access to sex and yet they remain obsessed with it and highly value it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:53 PM
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You should absolutely work in your personality, it’s just that the personality traits you should work on aren’t the same as the ones recommended by BluePillers and online feminist women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:49 PM
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Being attracted to beautiful people isn’t shallow, whether it’s men or women doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:06 PM
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I would say there’re three types that get women the most: A) Rich / attractive / high-status: goes without saying or need to explain. B) Men whose social circle is sort of typical or “normie” in the sense that they go out to parties, bars, meet each other’s friends, etc. and are thus constantly meeting and surrounded by women and constantly practice talking to women. This sort of sounds like TBP in the generic of “put yourself out there”, but this is only a very specific type of context - rather…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:33 AM
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Unpopular opinion but being poor in America is largely a choice or a consequence of bad decisions or mental health issues. Being lower-middle class or working class, OTOH, is definitely not a choice and not an easy experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:45 AM
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Lack of violence is one of the reasons why competition amongst women is so brutal. Amongst men, the option for violence is always there, and even the most powerful can’t just torment the weak or pick a beef with anyone because even if low, the risk to one’s physical integrity is always present. An example is the usual cliche of the bullied kid defending himself, and even if he gets the shit kicked out of him, the bully usually stops and moves to another target. Violence works as a pressure relea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 08:02 PM
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Though a pointless discussion for obvious reasons, I can agree on 1, 2, 4. Skeptic but open on 5. However, Number 3 is absurd. Ego competitions and power struggles are way worse and more vicious among women. It’s not even close. Anyone who says this either hasn’t spent enough time around women and is under a serious case of “Women Are Wonderful Effect”; or hasn’t spent enough time around men and deeply misunderstands how male relationships and hierarchies work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:28 PM
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I honestly just don’t see or hear about this outside the internet, when I go to places I see just as many men as women. Only exception would be if you go to upper-class areas during work hours when all the SAHM’s are hanging out, while their kids are at school and the husbands are at work. As for why men don’t approach at a cafe, has that ever actually been a thing rather than a movie/TV trope? Unless you are extremely attractive, I can’t imagine most women being comfortable with that (not just …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:23 PM
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Who says you shouldn’t be overly upset at 10 kids dying senselessly?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:18 PM
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I’d rather she had been upfront about it and wouldn’t be thrilled but it wouldn’t be an “unforgivable” offense if I found it she was bi. Even if she had been having sex with women while on the relationship, I don’t think I would care that much - it’d raise suspicions that she may be a lesbian and is using me as a beard or something, but assuming that can be cleared up, I could see myself overlooking it. Cheating with another men is unacceptable under any circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:02 PM
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but in US states that allow lump-sump payments it must be by mutual agreement, it can’t be unilaterally imposed except in certain extraordinary scenarios with the approval of the judge if he deems it in the best interests of the child. As for your points: You can’t force fathers to maintain non-financial ties to their child. If a father doesn’t want to have ties with the child, it won’t make a difference whether he has to wire money to the mother monthly or not. She can …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:53 PM
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Yeah I’ve never seen this scenario happen in which the friend isn’t acting per her wishes. It’s always: A) Woman is bothered and signals the friend to get the guy out of her way. B) Woman is too drunk (and horny) and thus receptive but the guy is clearly not attractive so the “cockblocker” gets him out of the way knowing that the friend will regret it and wouldn’t be open to that guy if sober. While the B) may be open for “abuse”, when hanging out with women, I’ve never seen that scenario play o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:59 AM
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It’s a major violation of freedom of the press and freedom of speech. It facilitates secret detentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:17 PM
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This isn’t really a gender or even a dating issue. People overestimate risk from strangers while underestimating risks from friends, family and even acquaintances who they aren’t particularly close with. See “Stranger Danger”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 06:21 AM
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It would be the same as if that happened when hanging out with a friend or family: Pick it up and stand around for a few seconds just in case anyone is clearly looking for it. Offer it to her because she saw it first. If I had seen it first, I would offer to split it, though - would feel awkward otherwise, and 50 bucks aren’t enough to make said awkwardness worth it. Unlike in a normal scenario, I may be inclined to allowing her to pay for the meal or 50/50 (not sure, would just make the decisio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:42 AM
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that you don’t have to do much of anything to get anything But the question many men, reasonably or not, are asking themselves is what does the latter “anything” mean that makes the former “anything” worth it. The issue many men have isn’t that they want the “Treasure at the End of the Rainbow” without working for it, but that they suspect that there’s no treasure at the end at all, making the journey worthless. If you go deeper into TRP and BlackPill thought, the premise is even worse than that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:51 PM
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90% of rich men I know are married to women who come from rich families, and are well-educated and intelligent but their career was never their main goal. The standard path of these women is: Grow up rich. Go to a private or prestigious college. Work as sort of a hobby for a couple of years in their 20’s whether in a 9-5 or something they are passionate about (say, a business subsidized by dad or a low-paying job that they love). Marry rich guy in their late 20’s and become stay-at-home wives an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:14 PM
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When I say attractiveness, I'm not talking about looks . It's way more than that. Maturity, wisdom, life experience, self-confidence, etc. These are very attractive traits! Very controversial take (even most on TRP would agree with your premise but argue is irrelevant), but is this actually true? Most single women (and admittedly my experience is limited because I’m younger) I know in their late 30’s and 40’s aren’t particularly better on those areas than well-adjusted women in their mid to late…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:16 AM
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I don’t see how it has to be one of either. If you achieve status through other means, it will significantly improve your attractiveness. If you are physically attractive already or have sexual/dating success for whatever reason that in itself will improve your status.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:44 PM
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You have a right to feel whatever you want, but being bitter is a waste of time and is probably the most socially repulsive trait a person may have - nobody likes being around bitter people. Anger is probably a more useful emotion than bitterness, as far as negative emotions go.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:54 AM
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Absolutely, befriend an extremely physically attractive man and you will witness it yourself. Honestly, one of the most interesting and learning experiences you can have. Two weeks ago I was partying with a friend who would, in internet terms, be described as “Chad”. He literally got groped by some horny girl he had no interest in, nor had any previous interaction with. While that was a bit extreme, pretty much anywhere he goes he gets stared and seen by women in the same way as men look at attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:49 PM
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I don’t think huge age gap relationships are a good idea, unless the relationship is casual, however: There's no way that a significantly younger person will sign up to be a caretaker to someone much older. People in the West barely take care of their own parents and you think they'll take care of your old ass? Even if things go well and you get married, they're going to divorce you when they're in their 40s and to you're in your 50s or 60s. Heck, we even see this in rich celebrities like Kevin …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:30 AM
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I know plenty of SAHM who leave the kids at home with a trusted family member and go on vacation once or twice a year. Admittedly this is a stretch, but for the sake of argument, you could argue that if you work extra hard in raising the children, you will get a bonus on the long term as they are likely to have success and may share the rewards with you. If finances are already well-taken care of by the spouse, why is that problem? Most people’s dream isn’t to climb the corporate ladder for its …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:06 AM
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Rare, but I’ve seen it in three types: Extremely attractive guy to the point that most women don’t think he would go for them thus don’t even try (rejection is even more humiliating for women than men); but taken women assume they have some plausible deniability (“if he doesn’t bite, then I can just pretend I was being friendly as I have a husband/BF so why would I even be hitting on him?”) Funny charismatic, not necessarily physically attractive, guy with a relaxed and carefree vibe, who provid…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:02 PM
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Women celebrities posting pictures of themselves looking hot? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:48 PM
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Pre-pandemic TRP AFAIK acknowledged that: Most men already had some TRP principles instilled or understood, at least the basic framework, and TRP as a movement/ideology was mainly for men who never got them because they grew up with bad parenting, lacked social and dating experience from an early age, mental health issues, etc. and most men, while they would do better with TRP, didn’t need it as much. The goal of TRP wasn’t to get you from incel to Chad, but for the most part from normal to more…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:01 PM
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There are definitely certain groups of people that cannot function in a civilised society. In the natural state, might is right. Me after getting off my Spirit Airlines flight.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:09 AM
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No, they are negative rights as the State can’t prohibit you from engaging in them or revoke your “license to date / have sex”. You have an inherent right to associate with another man/woman, meet up and do whatever couples do, declare love and exclusivity for each other and go to a Church of your choosing and have a marriage ceremony without the State preventing you from doing it. They are not positive rights because in order to be provided of them, you would inherently have to violate other pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:20 PM
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They are rights as they are covered under freedom of speech, association, peaceful assembly, religion (in the case of entering a religious marriage) and right to equal treatment under the law. There is no right, however, to be guaranteed any of those things. Just like in the United States you have a right to own a gun, but you don’t have a right to be provided of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:39 PM
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Young Adults aren’t as smart as they’ll ever be, but they generally should: A) Be smart enough to decide who to sleep with. B) Not be traumatized or permanently damaged mentally if they regret sleeping with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:53 PM
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Only casually Yes, as long as she respects that I do enjoy drinking and doesn’t try to change that If she’s able to remain attractive, yes Yes, though I wouldn’t date someone who is hyper-politically engaged or an activist - regardless of which side she supports Yes, though same principle as above applies Yes No No Yes Only casually Only casually No Only casually Maybe Yes Same deal as 4 and 5 Tbh I’m ignorant when it comes to Buddhism, so I’ll leave it at maybe Yes No Yes No Probably not but ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:29 AM
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Yes, I don’t find certain races physically attractive though, so that would preclude some. Yes, I’m agnostic, but I don’t care, unless her beliefs bar her from engaging in premarital sex. Tobacco? Yes, unless she’s addicted to the point she smells badly or interferes with her life. Weed? No, I find potheads annoying and don’t like the smell - I can deal with my pothead friends, but I wouldn’t like it for someone im dating. Yes, unless she’s against premarital sex. No, how would you date someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:55 PM
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Me in high school
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:16 PM
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It isn’t necessarily lying, just that people say they would like all sorts of stuff while their actions are actually the opposite without necessary realizing the contradiction, just look at the concept of Revealed Preference in consumer behavior. People love claiming all sorts of stuff to look like good people. I don’t think most women push hard for it, it’s mostly a terminally online feminist/progressive phenomenon. Many women who do push for this are often fantasying about a very attractive or…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:12 AM
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Anyone who claims status doesn’t help in building genuine attraction is just as delusional as those who say looks don’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:24 PM
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There is nothing “shallow” about being attracted to good looking people and wanting to date them. It’s a terminally online talking point by: a) bitter men b) Ironically, “blue pill” types and feminists who pedestalize women to a point that they pretend they are not human beings who are also horny and want to be with good looking men, and claim that if a woman wants a good looking man then she is part of a “shallow” minority and a man “dodged a bullet” by her refusing his advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:17 PM
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I agree that these “abusive Chads” don’t actually exist, and if anything, I’ve seen more abusive guys being ugly than the opposite. I definitely agree that they might even be less likely to be abusive because they often lack any insecurity, and are more well-adjusted because of more ample socialization. However, as far as faithfulness go, I have never met a young man who is very attractive and is able to remain faithful to his girlfriend. Once they are older, have less free time and more mature …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:23 PM
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Nobody gets unconditional love.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:53 PM
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Bullying between girls, or from girls against boys, is complicated because there’s no culmination point or off-ramp. Women aren’t likely to engage in violence, and boys aren’t going to retaliate against girls through violence. With boys, there’s always the possibility or danger of escalation into violence. Most boys are aware that if they mess with others they better be ready to engage in violence at some point - so it serves as a deterrent. So even if you are a dick, you most likely avoid being…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:32 PM
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I don’t want the tax money I’m forced to pay to the government going to enforcing this law. Your relationship isn’t my business. A person shouldn’t have their rights and freedom removed because they chose to have consensual sex with another adult, even if that might hurt a third person’s feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:02 PM
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Mostly insecurity/excessive need for validation, trust/jealousy issues (ironically, I guess) or mental health issues. All the promiscuous women I know are happily married. That’s fair. As I said, that’s just what I’ve seen. Everyone can have different experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 11:04 PM
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Maybe, but every single woman I’ve met who is or was highly promiscuous (including some who are friends) has some serious personality issues that would make for a bad dating partner or end up cheating at some point. It’s anecdotal data and could be a coincidence, of course, but that’s been my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:12 PM
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People are dumb and for the most part don’t know how to distinguish between someone who is pretending and someone who’s for real. People will fall for anything. This isn’t just in dating but it goes for anything else: just look at the corporate world and how often idiots get promoted because know how to pretend they know what they’re doing. The real problem with that advice is that not everyone is able to be a BS artist; it’s probably something that develops from an early age and for the average…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 09:15 PM
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IIRC the numbers aren’t as clear-cut in favor of the man as a lot of men make it out to be and there good statistics that back up opting for the bear, but this is an incredibly dumb talking point. Raw numbers of attacks tell us nothing because the overwhelming majority of people won’t encounter a bear, but in the question such an encounter is guaranteed if you choose the bear. If I were to ask you whether you’d rather contract rabies or the flu, the smart answer isn’t the flu just because it kil…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:30 PM
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I'm sorry this is not true. Looks get your foot into the door mainly. Money might get you noticed for a second but as soon as they don't like your face (within moments), your chances are gone immediately. If you are poor you are going to live in a poor neighborhood, have poor friends, go to school with other poor people, work with other poor people, go to bars/clubs/restaurants/events/churches/parties/[insert any place where people meet] with other poor people, etc. Wealth inequality is overrate…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:24 PM
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Having money absolutely gives you access to more attractive women. It may not make them attracted to you, but it will get your foot on the door. As wealth inequality increases in the western developed countries, so will class segregation. Anyone who has lived in a developing country can attest to this. The higher the bracket you are, the more attractive women you will be surrounded by - be it because their beauty allows them to climb a bit, or because they come from privileged backgrounds themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:35 PM
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Besides those directly related to safety or health like those you mention, none, really. Terminally online feminists might love and defend each other even when they may be on the wrong, but in real life women tend to be pretty shitty with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:30 PM
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This happens on the internet or with average men dating other average women, or below average women. When a truly attractive man dates a woman seemingly below his league, women love to shit talk the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:28 PM
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Young women tend to be more physically attractive than older women - thus, many men will rather date younger women if they are able to. It’s not that deep or complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:38 PM
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And you brought up Disney so well, but what about all those shitty TV shows and "high school" movies where the nerd took the prom queen from the "bad boy"? You haven't forgotten about that shit, have you? Isn’t the point of them that they are often comedies or ‘feel-good’ stories precisely because they are not realistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:46 PM
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Those standards aren’t considered gold digging by most normal people in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:26 PM
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In my experience, most rich successful men date women who come from well-off/rich families. Not necessarily women who are successful themselves/career driven, but definitely not the Starbucks barista (as the manosphere cliche goes) either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:25 PM
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Prostitution should be legal because my taxes shouldn’t be wasted on investigating and punishing people exchanging money for sex. I’m skeptical that things would change significantly. I don’t think for most men the decision to see prostitutes or not is based on legality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:36 PM
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This is one of the few issues I’m totally “Blue Pill”. I’ve never heard of a woman who cares about this in real life. If you have a legit issue (micropenis) then it probably will be a problem; but just a small penis, never heard of any woman complaining, let alone rejecting a guy because of it. I’ve heard women I know talk about the importance of height, looks, money, etc. but I’ve never heard one caring about penis size.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:57 PM
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I think it’s a matter of age and maturity. Almost every attractive man in his 20’s I know who has tons of options is a cheater. Even with attractive girlfriends, they often cheat if they have the chance. I know, however, tons of wealthy good or decent looking men in their 30’s and 40’s who were serious womanizers in their youth, and could easily get women if they wanted, but have settled down and don’t cheat nor have any interest in any women besides their wife. So to answer the question, based …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:30 PM
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I’ve never seen any man being actually shamed for being sexually successful outside the internet. Ok maybe I’ve seen some women attempt it (mostly angry exes/hookups), but: a) Most men will take pride on it or laugh it off rather than be shamed by said attempts, unlike a guy who gets mocked for not getting any or a woman who is “slut shamed” in which it generally affects the person being targeted. For many guys, especially the kind who sleeps around, getting shamed for getting laid too much is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:40 PM
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Its about them having a limited threshold for what they find attractive and having a broader threshold for what they find as a turn off. People can’t control what they find desirable or not, as I mentioned in another comment, having a strict numerical standard as in your example is weird and psycho behavior, but having high standard in terms of looks isn’t shallow or wrong (maybe delusional if you also aren’t that attractive, but that’s a problem for the person with the high standards). You shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:42 PM
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You’re certainly right about the looks part. Though some get upset that there’s dishonesty around the topic, not that women care a lot about it. I guess. Perhaps we are in a contrarian loop in which: nice guys and incels claim that all women care is looks and nothing else; then blue pill types go to the other extreme and claim women don’t care at all (and the very few who do are shallow and not worth pursuing). Then, when the former keep encountering women who care about looks they get even more…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:28 AM
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Nah this is common “blue pill” talking point: telling struggling men that if a woman isn’t attracted to them because of their height, looks or whatever other physical attribute you can think of, they “dodged a bullet” because said woman is shallow and part of a small minority. Same on the opposite side with nice guys and blackpillers claiming that women are evil for caring about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:29 AM
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There’s nothing shallow about women wanting to date an attractive man and not wanting to date someone they find ugly. That’s an absurd internet talking point, propagated both by men who want to find any excuse to hate on women and by delusional feminists/blue pillers who like to pretend women are perfect angels and only a few are “shallow” beings who take stuff like physical attractiveness as a consideration (which isn’t wrong at all). Everyone, regardless of gender, cares about looks. As for mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:15 AM
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Who says women are not entitled to safety? We are forced to give a substantial amount of our paycheck to the government. If that doesn’t entitles us, men and women, to safety, then why the hell are we even paying taxes for?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:04 AM
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Do poor people “need to accept” that financial security and a decent standard of living may not be on the cards for them? Isn’t that how humanity has always worked, and still works?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 07:45 PM
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Absolutely. Ironically, all of them are either quite rich or very poor, but I’ve seen plenty. Among upper-class families, in which the husband brings the money and the house and children are largely taken care by staff. The woman usually spends her time socializing with other rich ladies. The women aren’t the stereotypical trophy wives (young hot bimbo), but mostly highly-educated women who also come from wealthy backgrounds. My sister is a perfect example: husband spends all day working, the ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 12:57 AM
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Your average “normie” Democrat is likely more fit and likely to go to the gym than your average “normie” Republican. Your highly online, actively politicized Republican is probably more likely to be fit and go to the gym than your highly online, actively politicized Democrat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:33 PM
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There’s a tendency in political discussion in which one side pretends that the other side is “obsessed” with something or someone from their side. This is an example of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:42 PM
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My comment will probably be disliked by both sides, but I think most men hate promiscuous women because they are often actually harder to access for an average or below average man than non-promiscuous women. The promiscuous women I know tend to spend their time engaging in short flings, hookups or casual relationships with high status / handsome / wealthy men and they rarely hookup with average dudes. They are highly “hypergamous”, to use online terminology. For a lot of men, a non-promiscuous …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:13 PM
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Idk this sounds way too weird and probably something only someone who has had some previous issues regarding sexual consent or who is way too online and paranoid about false rape allegations would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:23 AM
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You’re not entirely wrong, though I’d say: NFL in particular? Sure, they tend to turn out badly, though I would say that has more to do with their lack of financial education and brain damage, not their views on women or dating. My point was about men in the top tier of social status, which is everything from athletes to celebrities to the sons of UHNW individuals and high-level politicians - most of them turn out pretty good, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:25 PM
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I’m friends with a former NFL player. The guy’s a multimillionaire with a great physique and an active social life. He has opinions of women that would make Andrew Tate blush. I don’t totally agree or buy fully into TRP (hence my flair) but if you ever become friends or are close to men in the top tier of social status, most internet “blue pill” stuff becomes almost comical.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 09:55 PM
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Being an asshole doesn’t make you powerful, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:05 AM
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That a man can leave his Wife or GF when she has Cancer or an Ailment. After all ,she isn’t entitled to a relationship right? And if he doesn’t want to stay he can leave right? The same applies for a Woman as well ,she can leave her Ailing Husband if she desires according to you right? I think marriage is a higher level of commitment which should only be broken in extremely circumstances, but I wouldn’t blame anyone for leaving a boyfriend/girlfriend with a serious illness. A man can ask sex fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:02 AM
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Is there actually an issue? It seems like it’s an internet thing. People IRL at most think it’s goofy or funny but I’ve never seen anyone actually consider it “problematic”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:59 PM
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No, I pay for a couple of sports streaming packages and would love to get one as a gift.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:42 AM
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Not at all. Even if you’re interested in signaling wealth (real or fake), there’re better ways to do it than a car. There’re basically two options: A) Driving an expensive car while you clearly don’t have the wealth to justify it: you’ll end up looking worse off since not only are you not rich, but also fake and insecure about your status. B) Driving an expensive car while actually being wealthy: the women will have known you’re rich expensive car or not. Even for “gold digger” types, it’s irrel…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:45 AM
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Maybe in very poor countries, in the developed west it’s an indication of poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:01 AM
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I’m pro-choice but I think this seriously overestimates: How much the average person cares about politics The impact policies have on people’s decision making even when they are aware of them People’s ability to think long-term when making decisions, particularly about dating and sex Not to mention, you still have a significant share of the population living in blue states (which also happen to be the most culturally influential states in the country) which aren’t impacted by the ruling; plus so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 05:18 AM
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Yeah, this idea that successful men don’t care about a woman’s career or social class only comes from people who have clearly never spent time in upper class or even upper middle class circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:18 AM
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This is one of my biggest disagreements with TRP and certain masculinity types who peddle this (often to make normal guys insecure) because the premise is just not true. It sounds like something that might be true because most middle class and poor men genuinely do not care about a woman’s socioeconomic background, but if you ever spend time in circles of wealthy people you would realize how not true it is. The idea that attractive women (unless we are talking model or actress tier levels of att…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:54 PM
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Consumers choose scammers over legitimate options all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:58 PM
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The presidency is such a unique and exceptional position that it tells us nothing about America. It’s a single position that is elected two or three times per decade and getting there involves a confluence of factors and forces that makes it essentially a crapshoot. It’s simply impossible to establish any causation or pattern. To analyze the role of women in politics and find potential discrimination, it’s more appropriate to view their participation in state legislatures, Congress, governorship…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 08:51 PM
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That’s racial/ethnic discrimination, not gender discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:12 PM
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A dude I know once told me that before going to a girl’s home he would put some dog food on his hand so that when/if her dog showed up the dog would smell his hand, love him and it would the girl more likely to trust him. I’m not sure how serious he was but it sounded hilarious.
/r/seduction28/09/22 09:57 PM
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Even if we assume what you’re saying it’s true, there’re tons of benefits of being what you describe as a “good men” and literally no cons.
/r/seduction06/09/22 02:52 AM
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I will go against the consensus and say yes if being a virgin bothers you so much, it will be awkward and you won't enjoy it much but it will mentally help you by taking that off your mind and will make sex seem less of a big deal for you which will give your more confidence in the future. As for losing your virginity to a prostitute, no one needs to know.
/r/askTRP05/03/20 04:22 PM
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Jesus Christ this isn’t about TRP or not, any sane person should run. Maybe call the cops or her parents.
/r/askTRP12/02/19 12:14 AM
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