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I can see how to people who arent too social this is an odd concept, since even social people can't always explain it well (just the word chemistry is werid if you don;t know exactly what the person is talking about, which they don't) But the same thing exists in all personal relationships, even friendships. Surely everyone experienced how you can talk to someone who on paper really matches your interests, intelligence etc but somehow the conversation is hard for both sides. It just doesn't flow…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:47 AM
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Lol reddit, how is 30 not young?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:35 AM
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I'm totally speaking from my assumptions and making some connections, because I don't really personally know women like that, but I think people in general just hate working because it sucks for most people, and some women see this as a possible option to avoid it. I don't think it has much to do with any traditions or gender roles, just looks like a way out of dealing with stuff you don't want to deal with I also find it annoying when people here point out that women aren't happier when working…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:12 AM
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Very curious what the target group was. This seems like a trendy way of talking with very vague substance. However most of these social studies don't mean anything and have very poor scientific value, its mostly for redditors to feel they can substantiate dumb arguments. You can find any idea supported by a study. What does dominant in bed even mean? Taking initiative and effort to please? And how does that translate into a person being submissive? If you look at real masochists they are usually…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:13 AM
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Your insistence is based on your fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:46 AM
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Neither does your insistance
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:17 AM
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I'm a girl and my best friends were always girls. And yeah in Elementary school it could be hard, but no, I definitely have no issue maintaining friends with girls - considering I am friends with girls I get along well with. The whole thing about not talking for a while and reconnecting, I think this is just about age, I also reconnected with a lot of high school friends after not being in touch for a few years. And I think most adults get that you can not always maintain the intensity but stay …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:56 AM
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Women have children out of marriage just fine if that is what they want. I find this non stop obsession people have with fertility rates and why they are dropping trully bizarre. How is it so preplexing for people to understand why practially NO ONE wants more than 2 kids and some don't even want any, it's really not that big of a puzzle. But they scratch their heads and think is it finances, is it marriage... I don't get what they don't get
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:49 AM
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This actually makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:42 AM
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No, maybe they like people they can relate to Who says they want the person to lead them? It could be that this character shows a mix of traits they like seeing on others and in themselves such as outspokenness, bravery, good ideas etc I also feel like its only Americans who obsess about this as an attractive trait, I never in my life heard a woman say she likes a dominant man until I started reading reddit If im doing a work project , and I have the choice of teaming with a outspoken / loud / l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:40 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:38 AM
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Why are people on reddit constntly assuming women are submissive in nature, it's so gross. Just that word gives me the ick
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:32 AM
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I am not sure if people exaggerate these things online or if Americans are just very different this way in general, but all the men I ever knew always opened up to me about things and talk about things just as much as women do. Some people have temperaments that like to dwell more and like to complain, some like to approach it as an analysis, some are more emotional, but I really see no gender difference. Overall the way I like to talk about problems the most is in a form of analytical conversat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:29 AM
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What is the link to the exact thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:36 AM
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I think this is a pyramid scheme, we need to be able to sustain longer lives and reduce the population rather than just make more people.It's horrible for the environment and not compatible to the modern lifestyle and aspirations. Automation and AI Investing in older people - people will live longer and be healthier longer, accommodating that and focusing on improving the quality of life even further will keep people involved in society longer rather than see them as burdens Immigration - not po…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:47 AM
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I think people have vastly different deffinitions of the word. To me the word implies you're not with the person you want to be with the most, you're with the person you were able to get and you may not really love them romantically to the full extent, but you can live with it. I've seen some people twist it to mean that even when you love someone so much you'd pick them over anyone else in the world, they are a flawed person so certainly you are settling for some things. Yeah but I would never …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:27 AM
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Yes, before he met Beauty. Beauty falls in love with him as a physicially beastly guy she connected with over another arrogant but very good looking suitor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:24 AM
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I don't know if i'm not getting the cultural impact of Disney fully but I am amazed by how often I see this on reddit (or the idea rom coms brainwashed women, but that's a bit different). We're talking about cartoons that really don't have enough complexity and a feelgood message It's been a long time since I watched B&B for instance, but the Beast is definitely not shown as an abuser, isn't the point of that message to love a person for who they are inside? As much as you can nitpick many dumb …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:31 AM
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I think that's kind of intrusive, I don't really encourage or discourage just hear it out and give my opinion (e.g. my brother likes to report how his attempts at approaching went or if he went on a date, how did it go.) I noticed there's often not much you can advise, it's kind of up to him if he wants to do it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:48 AM
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But it was weird, they didn't even know him and he pulled a sob story on cue and performed right there. It looked so scripted and not like a genuine human emotion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:33 AM
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I just saw it and it seems pretty clear the bigger issue was his promiscuity. Even the guy whoo was initally voted the most attractive dropped to the bottom after showing a tendancy for promiscuity and non monogamy Although displaying emotion by crying in superficial settings like this seems so "on cue" it comes across as very fake If anything the guy they all chose on top was portraying himself as sensitive (e.g. his comment that women aren't numbers for him, but even low key signaling like bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:30 AM
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I'm replying very late but thanks for the tips!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:03 AM
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I don't see it as essential but I would never be with someone who wants to have sex with another woman, I am monogamous
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 12:28 PM
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I think if you had 3 good long relationships that ended when things stopped working (like really stopped, you grew apart etc) is so much better than having one life long relationship mostly spent in misery and apathy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:07 AM
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Good example, and also, how dumb are they? Not only is even irrational fear something understandable, but this couldn't be more rational lol I get that some girls think this consistutes as banter, I've been guilty of it too at times (lightly mocking someone for their issue with something Im cool with but usually they'd play it along and it was nothing really personal ), but its really childish and this is even an extreme example
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:04 AM
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This is really insightful, thanks 3)Dismissal of what I'm feeling or actually saying. Deeming my feelings and needs as "wrong" and as something that "should" not exist because she doesn't understand it or doesn't care about the same thing. Can you give some examples with this one opening up about how your partner has done something to hurt you, and then having to comfort your partner because they are upset that you are upset, which feels very uncomfortable. Heck even if it's not about something …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:58 AM
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How do you throw someone getting physically abused in their face? Like, you're such a jerk no wonder your parents hit you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:54 AM
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Who was the girl to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:50 AM
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I still don't see how that sentence has anything to do with showing vulnarability, it shows that she wants one thing and you don't, which is the cause of the issue. You may be perfectly right in your judgment, but her issue has nothing to do with any vulnerability from your side, that's not even the topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:45 AM
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So was it fiscal restraint or your emotion towards having your trip cancelled? Did she say something that makes you think this was the reason? In the second scenario, I was told to "man up" and stop crying after three days. She grew distant and then withdrew and told me that she couldn't handle me being such a punk about it when we broke up. Wow that's brutal, have you seen that side of her ever before? Really crazy to tell someone to stop being a punk about their loved one dying, what a jerk!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:44 AM
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Hm, this doesn't seem like an example of emotional vulnerability being an issue but the girl clearly not thinking the guy loves her enough or wanting different things in life, either way simply two different wants clashing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:57 AM
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I reacted with some sadness, as I had to cancel a trip I had planned and budgeted for. So if I understood correctly, you told your acquaintaince you're sad over cancelling a trip after which she stopped talking to you? When a loved one of mine passed unexpectedly and I cried over it, my girlfriend left me within three months over it. She said she was leaving you over it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:56 AM
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How do you react for example in the situation with car repair/bill, can you describe? and who is the woman to you in the scenario, how close are you etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:48 AM
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I think being vulnerable is life removing your mask and sometimes people don’t like what they see or realize that they only liked the mask and not who you really are. Exactly, how how being honest doesn't always mean you'll get a positive response, but the lesson isn't to lie. Simply, any intimacy means that you're putting more of yourself out there, if someone doesn't like it the problem isn't that they don't like you being intimate/honest but that they don't like the content of that reveal. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:19 AM
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The exact situation and the exact behavior, this says absolutely nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:18 AM
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Honestly sounds like something perfectly fine to talk to your gf/bf/friends/family about but people are different
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:16 AM
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Ok but you can still explain the situation and her behavior about it or afterwards well enough
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:15 AM
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I mean it's totally normal for people to share their thoughts and issues with those close to them, therapists shouldn't be there just so you don't "burden" your loved ones by talking to them. What kind of things did she find particularly burdensome about the stuff you shared (i assume from your comment she told you this is the issue)?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:14 AM
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That's intersting, you were just friends before that? Were you very close?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:12 AM
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Ok but it matters why you cry, the context is relevant. Not all tears are a serious deal and crying can definitely be annoying and egocentric (and I'd argue female tears are often shown this way). People cry from frustration, tiredness, anger, pettiness, sadness, panic attack/breakdown, being emotionally moved (e.g. by art or a movie), stress.... all these ways of crying are different and carry different connotations about the crier, likewise can be judged and perceived very differently by the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:10 AM
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What do you mean, the main question is for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:08 AM
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Can you explain the situation a little, what particular moment made your wife laugh and in what way did she laugh (confused laugh, somethign specific you said, the very concept that you cry over something she didn't deem important for some reason)? Did you react to it and did she backtrack or explain why she laughed? Another time I was upset because my mother had a heart attack and my wife started drama surgery me after that What is drama surgery? BTW I am not asking these questions in some atte…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:07 AM
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but their sisters or moms and talk about how they get weirded out and never see them the same way ever again. I honestly never heard of this, even on a level of stereotype I believe it's much more commonly said that moms care deeply about their sons emotional reactions and get overprotective every time he shows displeasure
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:49 AM
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This kind of sentiment is why I am really interested in a case study. Again not doubting you at all, but it would be more helpful to analyze when you know exactly what happened and what about it turned her off as "showing emotion" can mean plenty of things and have a negative reaction for many different reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:48 AM
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That's true, even as kids you get made fun of for crying over small things regardless of your gender. Outward demonstration of emotion, and rational explanation of an emotion are very different, and first one can be uncomfortable, scary, alienating etc. to people. I mean there is also a stereotype about women being hysterical and emotional, which would mean that no one would take them seriously. It's not exactly like the fact that you're more expected to show emotion gives you more respect when …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:26 AM
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I think that people are different and not everyone is that keen on relationships. I am definitely not much of a relationship person although I end up in them and here are my reasons for being really hesitant and not to keen until I really love the guy: relationships take free time and I'd rather do my own thing or hang out with friends I don't want it to be weird to travel just with friends because I love to do that sometimes you need to compromise when I don't feel like it still deciding what I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:08 AM
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Firstly, Relationships are NEVER 50/50, because people fluctuate. I feel very lucky about my family and growing up with two people in a really egalitarian relationship who also somehow never really fought about who is doing more (both do have some specific points about cleaning they'll comment about but nothing that suggests one is doing more than the other). When my mom has something big at work or was finishing her phd my dad was basically doing everything naturally. When he was sick or had mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:41 AM
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While I'm sure it's mostly hormonal, life also seems to tend to suck after having kids for everyone, so imagine dealing with it while feeling fucked up about your body, and recovering from the physical and mental trauma of giving birth
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:40 AM
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Has bluepill ever been a real thing, especially off line? I saw it just as a term people used to counter the red pill, bordering on a pejorative term red pill (and maybe black pill) used to describe people who use certain cliche advice that in its core wants to promote equality but can be misguided, as well as just normal people who disagree with them. Cliche because it represents normal and common set of beliefs. I assume since the term was mostly used to just group the counters to red pill, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:37 AM
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HUGE desire, of course. Who doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:19 AM

I do find it odd to try to have a friendship when there is attraction or romantic emotions. One, it's not really fair to anyone's partners, and two, it just doesn't seem enjoyable. I agree that you can be civil, get along socially etc. But I think the word friendship implies a strog, lasting and special bond and I think for everyone's sake it only works if that bond is platonic by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 08:50 AM
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A recent male character I related so much to was Kendall Roy haha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:06 AM
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For me, verbally destroying, punching, using special powers, even murder can give me that sense. But action movie/super hero fights never.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:01 AM
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I identify with fictional characters more than actually want to be like one, I rarely feel the latter. But when I identify with someone, or recognize parts of myself in them, demographics are totally irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:00 AM
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I don't really see it that way, I identify with characters based on personality so I often identified with male characters, and experienced excitement when "My" character does well. But often I don't want to be a character, I just find that when a character is well written and I understand their motivations, they make sense. I think it's kind of childish to watch something wanting to be a fictional character, it's more children who look up to roles, and yes as a kid I did it easily with male cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:34 AM
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I don't know, things are really different today. Most people I know who are in their mid to late 30ies are single with no kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:44 AM
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I don't think the issue is that women assume other women are great but that when hearing about a situation we're removed from, we can sympathize with the female side. This can be for many reasons - a simple bias where you project yourself on the rando woman rather than the rando man; sympathy because the removed situation matches something you experienced and so you believe you can give the perspective others/the guy is not seeing (I think this is especially common on forums that attract a speci…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:37 AM
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"Sniff.. bring your fleshlight, I'll bring my dildo..sniff, and lets talk about movies all night long"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:52 PM
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On the contrary, as Zizek would explain to you, I'm dissing you to express my appreciation. I'm Slavic, fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:41 PM
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Ok the guy I'm talking about just really wants a girlfriend and is trying to approach girls but doesn't have much luck, although honestly there's nothing wrong with him. But there were two times when he told me he had a chance with a girl, but because the girl was just visiting from somewhere else he didn't see any point in pursuing what could have been a successful hookup. I found it a bit surprising but I'm not going to shame him for not wanting casual hookups either or act like it's weird
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:39 PM
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. Also, no hard feelings, but it is pretty disgusting that you think rape is less explicit if it doesn't involve penetration. Sorry but it is, I don't care if it's not PC to say it but not all rape/assault is the same. Being penetrated is a completely different level of physical violation The CDC has stated that 43.8% of lesbian women reported experiencing physical violence, stalking, or rape That doesn't say anything about woman on woman rape being common, as rape is put together with physical …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 09:32 AM
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It's not really love, a lot of these queens or concubines were really young and this man from the beginning is an authority figure in a society where he is to be blindly obeyed. It makes psychological sense to accept this since you can't change your fate, and look up to him, but this isn't anything like a romantic bond free people strive for today. It's like some bizarro father figure you also have to have sex with. It's sick really but people have to cope with their situations and obvioulsy fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 09:05 AM
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I think it's a way to get regular affection and sex without having to date different girls. For a lot of men dating isn't really fun I was actually surpised how different the old stereotype about men is from reality. When I was growing up, the popular stereotype is that guys like to mess around, flirt and stay uncommitted while women just want relationships. My life experience is totally the opposite. Like to the point where I know guys who are really starved for love and who will still not use …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:47 AM
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I just know that I'm eating from a trash can. The name of this trash can is this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:39 AM
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Not because they loved the king so much but because they a) had no choice, and b) it was simply a lifestyle that came with some status in what's usually a shithole of a country where a woman wouldn't have much if any freedom anyway. Shit, if you're forced to marry someone and reproduce with them, this might even be a good thing as at least you have company and he leaves you alone some of the time to focus on other people, it's not like you'd want to have sex with him. The emperor/king here is ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:35 AM
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Of course that people want a system that benefits them the most and will try to rationalize it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:32 AM
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It's extremely rare, maybe less explicit if it doesn't involve any penetration, and easier to fight off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:31 AM

Many many times since I was a kid. It's mixed, it can definitely give you confidence and be nice. It can also be vulgar and irritating, or worse. I normally smile at the first and give the figer to the latter, ignoring the in between. I don't know, I think it also matters where you're from, things are not that bad now but in the culture I was growing up in some guys were really unhinged (including guys trying to grab you and shit). But in a way, I think a lot of girls ended up just learning to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:30 AM
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Freedom hurts. Ok Zizek
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:22 AM
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From my experience, smaller age gaps (during the younger years where it matters more) are often not planned and happen when two people go to similar places and do simiar things while having an age gap. Especially 20ies lead to people having very different experiences, where a lot of us still de facto live as kids - live with parents, going to school, haging out with friends... then to varying degree some of these factors change. So someone beig 25 doesn't necessarily make them much more mature t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:20 AM
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What are you protecting her from? What do you even mean by stability?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:05 AM
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Everyone should have standards, but the nature of romance (love, falling in love) is not based on a person meeing the standards. That's not to say that stadards aren't a frame that can make being with someone impossible, or make falling for them impossible, but you never experience love as a satisfied checklist. You fall for a whole person. That is also how people want to be loved, as a whole and not some external attribute that isn't intrinsic to them but something they do to "earn it". Love ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:04 AM
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With all do respect to people who are going through it, it's usually NOT from nowhere. They stick with the guy even when he is obviously bad and rationalize away the behavior. Why? I don't know, every situation is different. I am not talking about women who are tied to a guy fiancially and with kids and have no family or friends to help them, that is of course different, or victims of such physical abuse who are genuinely terrified. But some seemingly normal girls from nice families with nice li…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:24 AM
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A guy who wants me to stay at home and not work doesn't respect me, and I don't respect that mentality so I wouldn't even like him. His money is not my money, and I'm not interested in losing independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:21 AM
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Forced to work, it's not interferring with my private sphere
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:36 AM
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Humor varies, not all guys like toilet humor either
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 07:24 AM

All my friends from high school still look the same at 35+ or even better. I mean I am sure we look a bit older, but not really that much different. I think back in the day women would change radically how they dress and style their hair as they became adults. Or, the fashions changed so drastically that by 30is they looked dated. But that's not really the case anymore. People in their 30ies and 40ies today look good and youthful
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 07:21 AM

But why would I make the second move? I am not the one who's interested, he is, that's why he approached me. But he kind of approached me to tell him that I can approach him?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:53 AM
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I mean same with stuff you wear on a night out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:52 AM
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Girls with their friends are often open to chat to a cute guy who approaches (if she's single etc) and it's even easier as it can be played out among two friend groups with some banter and isn't instant "do you want to go for a date with me, a stranger, or not?" And a girl is more confident too because she has friends who have her back during the night (more confident in a sense she can let go, drink, have fun and have some laughs with a guy without fear)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:52 AM
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Why? In my country people still are a lot but I also heard in the US it's not really a thing. But even here, for example I would go to pub with friends and it wasn't hard to meet a group of guys or have a guy approach me even then. Whereas my brother (younger gen) says he doesn't stay talking to a girl he approaches because she's with friends and it's easier to just meet separately. But he has very low success rates and I keep thinking this is the reason, if she's receptive to give her number/in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:50 AM
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Pubs aren't obnoxiously loud, it's where poeple talk. Most bars either. You're talking about clubs
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:31 AM
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Y'all really are just team sports on this subreddit I swear. What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:31 AM
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Isn't that super unhealthy to such extents? But I guess with potatoes it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 10:17 AM
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No, because you can ignore someone's call and what can they do then? If you have instagram you probably post about yourself and they can see your photos, name and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 10:17 AM
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Not that good of an impression, it's just like, I'm glad he handled it this way so I don't have to turn him down. But what is the motivation to call him? It requires me to put a willing effort without any reason to. If I'm single and in some kind of crazy mood, he'd be more successful to chat me up then and there. Even if I though he's cute, I would totally lose incentive it takes to call him and arrange something for a later time. If that momentum is there, which is rare, better use it to estab…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:50 AM
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I don't even think this was ever a friendship, people really use the term loosely. What's the point? I think some women like to act like nothing happened because it kind of sucks to feel someone wants nothing to do with you anymore because you had to reject them. I think you're thinking of it too deeply. Sometimes acting hurt about you not continuing the friendship is a way to equalize the situation, because it's not nice to feel you hurt someone (even though of course its not your fault to reje…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:26 AM
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Right, I don't think anyone wants to be a safe option. I also don't think anyone really wants a safe option, people want the person they love to also be safe for them because they love them back. Nothing else works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:23 AM
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I guess it depends, if it's purely aesthetic, I think he's too vain for me and I'm a bit turned off by that in guys. It's also a bit cultural, I kind of grew up thinking men should absolutely never give a shit about their looks, and women shouldn't either but should make sure to look good while at it. I'm coming around from this mentality to an extent (hair transplants) but I still get turned off by men who are obsessed with their looks. But I can understand it if it was a really bad feature, de…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:18 AM
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I just don't believe in these stereotypes. When I was younger I would feel so complimented when someone said I had "male brain" (cause guys are so rational right and I'm not like the other girls) until I stopped to think that this shit doesn't reflect how people are at all. People are above all individuals, there are some superficial mannerisms connected to culture and gender some can display to bigger or lesser extent. I mean just think of how many girls you know, or knew, whose whole thing is …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:13 AM
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Pretty much though often there are these gray zones where a guy just seems really interested in hanging out with you and you just decide to play it off as normal as it would be weird to treat it as something more, but you also on some level know it usually is. It's tough to navigate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:09 AM
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But why in a gym? Bars and pubs still exist, and I'm pretty sure people meet there normally just the same. I mean you need the right atmosphere when people are relaxed, socializing, having drinks.. Do people not do pubs anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:08 AM
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sustain on eggs Haha what? Do you only eat eggs?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:06 AM
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Oh shit. Can't they fix that surgically?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:05 AM
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It's so weird, my brother told me he just approaches girls and asks for their insta, my thought process was why would she share it with you it's personal, plus what if she doesn't have one? Isn't it better to ask for number? But apparently this is now more normal. Not that it works great for him but I guess it's not the reason why But my main comment is always, how much do you expect to get by just getting someone's contact? You need to connect with her then and there. And he doesn't get it, I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:00 AM
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It's less annoying and doesn't burden the woman on the spot, so great for that. But I don't think it works unless the guy also manages to make a great impression AND is just lucky to do it in the moment where a girl is maybe more open to do something spontaneous simply put, even if the guy is hot and seems great and i'm single, I just have no incentive to give him a call back if all I have is his approach and number. Plus, I sort of don't want to have to do it. So it's thoughtful but probably no…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 08:59 AM
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Probably that too. Though I don't necessarily see it as a bad thing, I see it more as a huge pressure on women, or that women put on themselves, to be over the top involved parents. Come on, back in the day parents would have a life and let the kid play by itself or with friends outside for most of the day. What was wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:46 AM
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Tha's not really a big percentage though, isn't it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:19 AM
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Whenever guys talk about it on reddit they love it and they get all kinds of personal hobbies and interests done along the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:04 AM
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To be fair I think it's a weird ambition for anyone to have
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:04 AM
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Anecdotal, but I don't know any stay at home parents of either genders in real life so reddit is my source - I noticed that women who are SAHMs usually talk about how much work they do, it seems their main goal (whether they complain or own it) is to show how they do a lot at home and with the kid Stay at home dads who say they love it (I almost never see them hate it) usually talk about how it's not so hard and how much they enjoy their free time that usually involves a lot of things they do fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:03 AM
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I’ll also note here that the rate of childless/childfree women has remained consistent Has there though? I am not sure about the country but both anecdotally very few people I know are having kids even in their 30ies and I constantly hear about how low the birth rate has fallen in most developed countries. Are you sure the ratio isn't just offset by immigration or something, assuming you're in US, cause in most European countries I believe definitely more women are cf
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:08 AM
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I see people jumping on that term babysit and I just don't think it always means that the parent doesn';t see themselves as a parent, it might just mean that in a given moment they're the only ones watching the kids and it's their main task in that timeframe. Women can use it too. Context matters, people easily project the worst idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:07 AM
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My cynical read would be: The guy marries a "wholesome" girl because he has double standards and continues cheating on her. She is either a doormat and sticks around until he dumps her for a better wholesome girl, or she finds out and is absolutely shocked because she ignored all the very obvious signs in order not to be a jealous and insecure type of girl. He wanted to get out of the partying lifestyle and the wholesome girl chose him exactly because she wants to get into it, she just never had…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:30 AM

Most people dont want to be sunbissive to anyone, women included. Men who are really attracted to a woman love her for who she is and her individuality. The creeps who are attracted to submissiveness look for a servant to lift up their ego. Whats so surprising about women not being interested. Shockingly, women have their own egos and lives to live, submitting to someone else is for slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:22 AM
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Ideal man is generally impressive, it is cool being him, he's cool in everyone's eyes. Ideal woman (at least what these conservatives consider to be one) is someone who is useful to another person but would be an absolute nightmare to be. Just a disgustingly servile being with no spine or ego or life of her own. It's just a role no one wants to play when given a choice to be literally anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 08:30 AM
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Wow, this is a really great point, that men at least usually want to be the "ideal man" but no woman in her right mind wants to be this type of "ideal woman"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:57 AM
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I'm thin, I'm fine with sharing my weight with anyone, but I wouldn't date a guy who asked me that question (I assume in an online situation, otherwise - you've got eyes). It's just so tacky. And yes, I would consider it tacky to ask the guy his exact height for the same purpose. But if it's part of some kind of context in a conversation it would really not be an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:53 AM
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You're right, its fucked up. I guess my memory softened it up with time
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:15 PM
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I hate how everyone's a body language expert today. These aren't facts, people can seem insincere to you because any outward expression of emotion can be contrived to some extent especially when aware you're being watched, taunted and recorded. And people can get their composure back fast in some situations, I don't know what's so weird about that, her tears weren't deep personal grief but frustration
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:56 AM
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I think the biggest case was that Central Park Karen and I almost feel bad for her too, I mean she was a bitch but the guy was an asshole too. I don't know how much she was racist and how much she was just trying to threaten him effectively so he'd leave her alone. It was still super over the top and ridiculous from her side too but I think she was really scared for her dog irrc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:44 AM
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Tbh I normally don't follow Karen videos because the whole thing seems a bit contrived, but the ones that got through to me recently are usually the ones where Karen looks like the normal one or at least the less assholish one in the story. Just yesterday there was one where Karen outstretched her arms when two people on bikes came her way on the sidewalk, the guy avoided her and the girl brushed her arm. This caused the guy to block Karen with his bicycle and physically threaten her in an angry…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:42 AM
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Yeah but isn't it also a bit of a generational thing, we forget that just because they look like middle aged moms now they were growing up in a culture that was, for the lack of a better word, ruder than today. Or differently rude, i guess, since recording people and goading them is also not very nice. When she was younger her elders reacted harshly to her and were socially allowed to do so, most probably. She still comes from the time when your elders need respect and are granted some leniency,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:37 AM
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upper middle class
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:33 AM

I think like with many things, people overthink this or overfocus on the meaning of emotional, when it really stands for not wanting emotionally closed off men. I don't like stereotypes because both genders can be this way but I think women on average struggle a bit more with men who don't say much about what is happening ever (I think men are slightly more likely to interpret silence as "all is good" and women as "all is fucked up".) I don't think it's so much that women want a man who cries ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:47 AM
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Yeah that's why I gave the example: a lesbian friend and an engaged woman. Right but that is not platonic for you. What I mean is, you might still find them attracted, what's preventing the realization of it is an outside factor. Some girls might be perfectly fine with that, but i can understand those who wouldn't - but then again it's also fair that you pick the former. . And I did see some of my bi-friends were not treated well by both hetero's and gay's I get that it must be hard because you …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:22 PM
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welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:12 PM
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I also think when you're in a relationship with someone else, she won't be keen on your friendships where you're attracted to the girl and the thing that keeps you away is that she's the one who isn't interested/dates someone else. I mean, maybe not, some people are cool with that, but a lot aren't and imo that's fair. I understand it's harder for bi people and it takes more tolerance all around. I just find it easier not to play with these blurred lines. Because even if a guy gives up trying, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:19 AM
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Well first, it was before her abortion and if you check the time stamps none of the posts shown followed after one another but at very different intervals from right to left. Second, she aborted via pill, she didn't even have a formed fetus or any connection to the specimen she got in her lab. There's virtually no connection except that someone pulled the two and put it together so that if you don't read carefully you get a wrong idea. That's a developed fetus not someone's abortion Someone ment…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:11 AM
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I'll be honest most of the time when a guy would connect with me he would have romantic feelings and attraction too. I would at best suspect it but not want to be presumptuous or would just be glad he isn't being open about it so I don't have to turn him down. It doesn't offend me as I genuinely believe they were interested in our conversations and whatever, which is what also led them to fall for me. Should I be angry they find me attractive? I don't think it's manipulative, I see it as a guy e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:53 AM
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I just think it makes no sense to be friends with someone you want more from. And it will also make things more confusing later as you move on, who wants their partners to have friends they used to want to be with?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:47 AM
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Hmm, an adult had a life, connections with people and developed sense of self, seems much much worse than a dead fetus tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:02 AM
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Ask yourself why people, even on a gore site, may not take too kindly to this... It fits a gore site perfectly, it isn't even gory tbh Also, you get that it's not HER aborted fetus lol, the way the shot was framed shows her mentioning abortion and then this image but its totally unrelated. She aborted with a pill, this is a fully formed dead fetus from formaldehyde her lab received. Totally unrelated stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:00 AM
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Well first, I'm not whining about incels but I don't see how this woman connects to them? Many people are into morbid stuff one way or the other, this fetus was brought to her lab and she clearly doesn't look at it emotionally as why would she necessarily? Do you know there are medical museums where people come watch really bizarre things in formaldehyde, it's just a curiosity. I don't get your moral angle. we just learned she works in a lab. Having said that it's perfectly fine if you're put of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:58 AM
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People who have sex both inside and outside of a relationship and use protection can still get pregnant. They don't have sex to have kids but for the pleasure of having sex. Both sides. It would be ridiculous to expect a woman to have children she doesn't want or isn't ready for. Most men support abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:53 AM
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Ok, I actually looked through this cause I assumed it was some crazy story but it's really not. The post with the short guy is chronologically the latest update here, and before that she posts about how she'll get out of a relationship with a guy she isn't into to be with a guy who turns her on. So we can assume the guy in the pic is the guy who turns her on. We learn she had an abortion via pill which is not a big deal, and before that she likes morbid things which isn't a big deal either. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:18 AM

It’s a myth that bisexual men are less common than bisexual woman I agree but I think it comes from the time in like early 2000s - 2010s and probably before where a lot of straight girls made out with other girls to attract guys because men like it. Or as a way to do something "wild" that's also attractive. Men never got groups of girls applauding them for making out with a guy during a party. Many girls also said they're bi but really only be into men and male attention, but it's a way of being…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:51 AM
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I think it's more that certain traits matter less to men/women and get imagined in their most ideal way, socially speaking I can see that a relatively asocial and introverted woman can seem mysterious and appealing to guys. But if we break down this "socially retarded" or borderline autistic to include some other, embarrassing social behaviors displayed around family and friends, or even around the guy himself, it would be a huge turn off I can also see women being more negative about the idea o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:23 AM

I don't think watching movies counts as a hobby. I'd say learning about filmmaking and filmmakers and the history of the craft might count, but really I'd say it really.becomes a hobby when you start trying to make.or at least write amateur films yourself. I don;t know, it's an interesting one. I also don't consider just watching movies that come on TV a hobby but if someone has a huge interest in movies or a genre and searches for and watches obscure movies that fall there and it's an important…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:53 AM

Does anyone even consider that a hobby lol? I meet friends for coffee or beers a lot, I don't call it a hobby...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:50 AM
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I agree with shared interests in a sense of conversational topics, we should be able to talk about ideas and things that interest us to each other. This comes from similar mentality and way of processing things or similar ways of discussing ideas But in a sense of doing same things? No, besides anything I do as a hobby is completely solitary, I never thought I needed a partner or a friend to do it with me. And it's rarely a conversational topic for me. This is why I also often don't connect with…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:46 AM
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I just looked up the dictionary definition and it def means just walking in nature. However it still felt weird to me that for years I felt confident that I understood this word, when I didnt, so I did a google translate to my language and it literally translated to "mountain climbing" weird But haha all these years I took reddit's favorite hobby as much more serious than it was
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:56 PM
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Oh I thought hiking meant mountain and otherwise its a walk (not a native english speaker, big TIL for me today)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:54 PM
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Ok that definitely seems cool but yeah you can't do that thing too often (depending also on where you live etc). but seems awesome for sure For me, Im extremely lazy in terms of planning, i never go out of my way to do anything (even in non physicial sense, I just dont have the nerve to prepare organize or execute anything that isnt simple). But I love this type of shit. I spent like 10 days in Slovenia just hiking every day for hours. I can do it but its not something I could plan and execute o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:00 PM
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Now that you put it in kg it's pretty obvious it makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:48 AM
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Still, overweight or not, it doesn’t make her ugly or mean it’s ok to bully her for not being thin. That's my point too, she is overweight but why would she not be on the cover, why is Peterson compelled to explain that she isn't beautiful - wtf? Who is forcing him to see her as such in the first place. Is he so concerned about covergirl appearance standards because it's a socially important issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:46 AM
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I think BMI is a bit shit and leans towards heavier side in their normal range But I also think there's a difference between visual and medical, so maybe she is not of an unhealthy weight but it's not wrong to say she is fatter looking (please don't think I'm saying this in support of the idiot Peterson)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:44 AM
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I think Jordan Peterson is a moron for that comment because what the fuck? But at the same time, she is overweight, there's no confusion there because this is determined visually
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:43 AM
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I feel ya, when I read about reddit's ideas of diet and exercise it seems some people wake up at 5 am to spend 3h in gym as only way to stay fit and a way of life... and here I am (consistent 167cm and 50kg), zero gym and no special diets, love carbs but I probably walk more than Americans. It would have to be much more though I find it so abstract then to say I really don't value gym as activity or want a partner who is gym obsessed cause it sounds like a really boring way to spend time and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:39 AM
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Sorry, will remove now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:39 AM
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So technically if a girl had a great body and a relatively healthy lifestyle (walking yoga etc) but hated sports, gym, had no athleticism or coordination, you wouldn't be a good fit, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:38 AM
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How often do you realistically hike? Also what do people really count as hiking? For example in my home city there's a small mountain next to it where people (including my fam) go on weekend morning usually to walk. It's not some steep walk, you find a path and just walk in nature for about 2-3h. Is that hiking or do you mean like steep mountain hiking? How long do people do it for?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:36 AM
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I'd be so happy and so comfortable., like 100x more
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:58 AM
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This is kind of similar to the thread I just had. Yes I agree most people dont talk about average distribution but what falls between the best looking they've seen and ugly (and while humans can be really deformed in many ways I dont think that weighs down the scale because these are more seen as flukes outside of the scale than an actual 1s, or can just be all grouped together at the bottom but then 3 will already be someone you can actually see in real life) It's not a wrong way of looking at …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:59 PM
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Basically Im saying there are two ways to interpretat average looks (or two scales) One is the actual population average. So for example if the general population gets fatter, then fat becomes the average Second is beauty average where the average is what falls on scale between beautiful and ugly even in a society where in theory more people leaned towards ugly. Which is what I use when I talk about looks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:42 PM

To point the obvious, if thats what they treat average men, then its not especially insulting for men to be treated that way. If however a girl keeps seeing other girls getting better treatment than her, of course she's bitter Not saying this is on men to fix but just that human perception of their reality works in comparison with others - like that joke about a guy who had one wish but his neighbour would get twice what he gets, so he asked to lose an eye. If youre treated as an average or abov…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:56 PM
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See for me someone fat (more than just a little chubby) would be below average. Theyre a statistical average on the scale of what an average person looks like but its not what average attractiveness looks like - thats my point Also I think fatter people are 40+ so its maybe not average for younger demographic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:49 PM
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Maybe it's not that women want that to happen to them, maybe they just hate other women :) Lol, I don't know tbh. I'm a woman and these things super turn me off so it's hard to say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:04 PM

Hm no idea. I think at one point people crave their romantic life because it builds their ego, it shows them they are loved, wanted etc. So when we're younger and more insecure it takes a lot of our focus as it builds us as people, both men and women. But the reality of being in a relationship surpasses that and becomes a lifestyle, and this lifestyle can be a burden and it seems more so for women (particularly of the post menopausal generation), while at the same time she becomes more secure in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:29 PM
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Reject him for not wanting cheese in his burger. I actually checked out the article, she rejected him because he was discouraged from getting the cheese he wanted by the fact it cost 3 dollars more, and then complained to her about it. Now maybe her angle was just that it seems like he's broke and she doesn't want that. I think that's a bit materialistic, but there's something just off putting about the fact you're counting a few dollars on your date. Just seems like someone who'd bitch about ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:24 PM

Yeah most cat ladies are pretty social girls who seem very happy about their life and doing whatever the fuck they want lol I also noticed that "single man, his dog, and a glass of whiskey" lifestyle looks very attractive to a lot of guys but "single woman, her cat, and a glass of wine" is a joke for misery? Why? And I ask this as a girl who likes both dogs and cats, and whiskey and wine... that's not my point... just the whole "me, my animal and my drink" as opposed to "me & my spouse (one "uni…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:16 PM
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I completely agree, this is how I see it too
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:41 AM
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Can you link to an image of a guy you'd rate as a 6 and a girl you'd rate as a 3 just to have a reference point (I'm not even sure why I'm asking, just curious because I am imagining 3 as very hideous and even rarely found in normal social circles)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:46 AM
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It's simply a matter of who wants whom more. No one likes to approach etc like OP said for example, but if anything is to happen, one side has to. The side that does wants it more. There's no unfairness, no one is forcing you to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:11 AM
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Yeah I think the way most people improve is a natural progression through life which means being uniquely shaped by our decisions, experiences, paths we chose to follow etc. So any improvement in those areas feels like "ours" - I am a person that was good in drawing, I practiced and now I'm much better, but it's me. On the other hand what guys push to each other as improvement for dating just sounds like negating yourself to be a generic idea of something - one personality, one phisique etc. I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:05 AM
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It's just how I am, I don't want to even be naked around random people let alone have sex with them. The guy can be the hottest man ever, I won't instantly want sex with him. I think I am just a bit of an inhibited person, I was always much less comfortable with nudity than a lot of people around me since I can remember. I would never get naked around female friends for instance and even when I was younger the idea of a gynecologist was traumatic. Don't get me wrong, I can dress super revealing,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 07:47 AM

Steven Crowder or Jonathan who recently said that women have to ENDURE physical abuse. Holy shit did they literally say that? I saw that horrible video with Steven Crowder but I thought he was still trying to bullshit that it's not so bad. Wow. But yeah I totally agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 11:52 AM

Yeah, she's overweight (not the american morbidly obese way but still), facially average. Not sure what she looks like on her profile though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:25 AM

Are you sure? I think the only difference between attitudes in 2012 and 2022 is how many people are using social media and in what ways. What girls discuss with their friends is simply more accessible to everyone to hear. Having said that of course not all women are obsessed with height or have same preferences, but it's true that very short men won't have a great time unless they have a great face and a well proportioned body. No one wants to date a midget, but tons of girls would not mind some…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:44 AM
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You're right. I'm not from the US and for a long time I thought my country is more chilled about these things and people are more normal around each other, but when I talk to my brother it seems tons of his "normal" friends never had any experience with a girl. Not sure why because it's not a first hand experience but it definitely seems to become more common now. Either that or people talk about it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:44 AM
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It's not common but it's not hard to catch up on things in your 20ies, I think it will get hard if you neglect it now. You're right that the chances of some girl randomly noticing you despite you not talking or doing anything to get her attention, and then trying hard to get you out of your shell are zero. It;s not so bad that you didn't have any experiences before, like someone else said, even very normal acting guys sometimes go without until when they're in their mid-late 20ies. That's becomi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:25 AM

I'm really not an expert because I don't use it and I also think the attitudes might vary depending on location. But I feel like people who use it are super scripted or just want some sex talk right away, i think it's both hard for people to act natural in that kind of setting which is why normal people who want to just act natural avoid it, or if they do use it they come across as very bland and just want to meet right away. For example if I was looking to date and having issues irl I would pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:13 AM

I never used OLD but I recently talked to a friend who just started it and it was hilarious tons of guys just have dick pics or body pics without a face most of them send some super cliche identical grandiose oneliners like "would you make me the happiest man on earth today and talk to me" when she tried a few times to find something normal to start conversation about based on whatever they listed as interests, it would fall flat. For example she'd see a guy mentioned he's into star wars (I know…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:48 AM
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Split the bills and groceries - yes, of course. Charge rent - no. Same with genders reversed, they're your partner you want to live with, you're not their landlord.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:20 AM
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Haha except as a woman I find beards so ugly 98% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:20 AM
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Those people who do very facially transforming make up normally only work on photos or like stage performances for celebrities, you would not walk like that in public and it would be very obvious and weird irl. The deception is only digital. At one point all these people have to be seen in real life, and if someone dates them, they'll see them without make up, so the advantage won't be much help I reckon
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:19 AM
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I know many women who don't get male attention. As an adult, it's harder for me to tell because I am not non stop involved with personal lives of people I spend time around, but in high school and college I'd say most girls didn't get much male attention at all. I don't want to sound full of myself but very few of us would get a lot of male attention, then there'd be a few girls who wouldn't get active male attention from "general public" but would at some point get a steady boyfriend, and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:03 AM
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Where are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:51 PM
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Because a muscular body really isn't a big plus for most girls Some girls prefer thin, some prefer dad bod, some like more muscular but overall if you have a well proportioned body, are not obese and have a nice face, you'll look good. If you don't have a great face or body proportions, then muscles won't really do anything. And big muscles can be a real turn off
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:05 PM
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I'm not married but I'm romantically satisfied (don't really feel like getting very personal here) but I just enjoy the debates and perspectives of what's going on in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:22 AM
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I'd never give up my animal for a guy or even like a guy who doesn't like animals even if I had none. Total turn off Having said that, I don't like "dark triad men" either
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:59 AM
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Yeah you have a point, but I wouldn't say this is a new thing. We didn't have social media but we had MTV and magazines, this thing always existed but just on a much smaller scope... your beauty was defined by how you're perceived by the groups of people you were physically around. Now you can put your pictures online and get attention from a much much wider group which I'm sure distorts reality a lot. But I'm just saying in terms of fashion being revealing, did things really change that much fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:56 AM
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I am as baffled as you are about the vast amount of women online sharing that they are deeply scared of men in general. That's how I feel too, not sure if it's exaggerated or simply a result of living in a different environment I definitely always felt it's normal to walk alone at night, sit in a pub alone if I want to (e.g. am waiting for a friend) etc. IT's weird to hear some women would never walk alone at night. But then some places are more dangerous than others
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:38 AM
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I am not living in a constant fear of men and neither are most untraumatized women. A lot of women had traumatic experiences with men during their life that made them wary of certain situations or maybe even generally scared, sexual harassment is very common and to varying extents almost all women experienced it. Even without a huge personal trauma, we are all aware of bad situations and are taught to be careful of being alone with strange men but this usually doesn't manifest as "constant fear …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:34 AM
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It's a mix of inborn and learned, I think you're born with a sense of what is attractive for the most part in terms of symmetry, proportions etc and this is very universal. Your surroundings and upbringing can expose you to some preferences in details such as the types you prefer, certain looks and styles, fashions and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:31 AM
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I do think it actually stems from few decades back but I don't think it was promoted by women at all. I feel like it was a male fantasy that they are visual and attracted to any hot girl (so men cheat) while women are so emotional and need to bond with a guy and just care about personality and romance (so they won't cheat). It wasn't even made to make women look good but to justify men cheating and create a fantasy world. It was I think even older than 70ies where a lot of women had less of a fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 08:50 AM
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I think in these convos people on both sides always confuse an important distinction. And that is that you're not doing it for a specific man or a specific agenda with a man, but doing it for "society" certainly includes men in general. Of course everything anyone does to look good is because we want the world to perceive us as attractive, better looking than others etc. And to an extent it is true we do it for ourselves too because the way humans perceive themselves is through the gaze of the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 08:41 AM
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It would depend on why he refuses that but I don't think I'd want to be with a guy who refuses it in the first place. Of course the fact he did it with other girls would be particularly traumatizing to my ego to hear so no, I wouldn't be with him. I mean if he enjoyed it with them but doesn't feel like it with me, that says something about how he sees me and it's not the way I want to be seen to say the least But if he has some particularly traumatic experience from doing it with these other gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 08:24 AM

I understand if you're referring to what you were told in an in depth convo with someone you know and who can see you. But most of the complaints read like... if you see a guy say "I love dark hair and green eyes" can't you naturally fill in the "on a well proportioned body and an attractive, symmetrical face" (and I mean women too, everyone talks like this)? People often dont spell out the obvious part but the part pertaining to them and their unique taste when asked about what they like. So yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:17 PM
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Right but we can focus on growing in so many different ways, and a lot of growth isn't even purposeful. So by being yourself, you pick what you actually care to focus on and that's where you'll grow. Not everyone sees the same things as important.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:56 AM
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"Women don't care about looks" who actually says that?? I agree that women talk about personality a lot when giving advice which a lot of guys ridicule, but in most of those cases I rarely see them saying "looks don't matter one bit". It's more like, looks are mostly fixed, so you can't really get a new face tomorrow, assuming you're talking to an average guy and he asks for advice you're going to focus on behavior. And another point is, of course personality does matter, there's no lie or big c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:54 AM
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I think conversation is very important but I don't really talk about things like hobbies which I feel gets a lot of attention on reddit. But interests I guess matter, however we don't have to come with the same knowledge, I think it's easy for me to get interested in stuff if someone is able to talk about them in an interesting way. I would say for conversation, it doesn't really matter what the person does or knows, as much as it matters whether they're an interesting conversationalist. Like, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:48 AM
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Zagreb is Eastern Europe to you lol? Maybe it's culture that we don't really value fancy looking guys or gym guys, but I think you're also not judging them objectively. A lot of guys from the places you listed look good but they dont put effort into looks which girls there like and you think is unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:20 AM
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I really don't like the idea of elaborate dates, I don't want things I need to be in a special mood for. I like good conversations over beers or coffee in a caffe
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:18 AM
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Not sure about these cases, but often there is a sufficient public evidence the person is guilty but either what they did isn't criminal or the case got old, some evidence/testimonies can't be used in court etc. Shit even Cosby is out although he did get convicted. Not to mention often the cases that go to court are parts of private litigation and not focused on overall proof of innocence or guilt For example the two cases I am more deeply aware of in the last few years are Marilyn Manson, who s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:01 AM
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I mostly agree with you but I don't think that having more awareness about their own raking would make people more interested in dating within the same range - I don't think your own attractiveness affects how you see others. Two ugly people will be two ugly people to each other too I assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:52 AM
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I don't really care for it. I can understand it in some context were it makes life you'd have together anyway legally easier. For example if you're from different countries or if one of you needs to work abroad, or if you have medical concerns you won't trust your family with, or if you spend your lives together and want to make sure they inherit if you die... there are privileges to married people that in some relationships might be more relevant than in others. Therefore based on the personal …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:27 AM
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I don't get the point. Commitment isn't trapping yourself with someone so you and they can't leave. commitment is shown through time when neither of you chose to leave even though you could. I mean, why would anyone want this? No matter how much I love someone not only do I always want to be able to leave, I would always prefer to be left than to have him stick with me because there's no way out even though he doesn't love me - that would be so brutal I couldn't live that way. In fact I would wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:11 AM
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I still believe one side usually sets the tone and the other responds, even if they initiate on a different occasion. E.g. imagine if your partner calls you names like moron, idiot etc. You start responding in kind. Now that the tone is set, one time they do something and you call them a moron first - are you actually abusive or are you talking to them the way they normally talk to you? Because if it's an abusive relationship, I don't think you can look at each occasion as a totally separate thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:13 PM
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I thought most reciprocal abuse is actually one person being abusive and the other reacting to that in a way that isn't meek. E.g. if someone insults you and you insult them back, hits you and you hit them back... I wouldn't say both are abusive when one is certainly justified in responding in kind (obviously breaking up after would be ideal but unfortunately people get themselves stuck)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:45 AM
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Not because they were too nice but I lost interest in men who were too censored, like they would never argue and debate or express a strong opinion, everything they say is so safe. I like to debate, it's boring to me when someone doesn't seem enthusiastic or passionate about any point but maybe they do it to be nice in case we disagree or don't want to come too strong? That doesn't mean I like people who debate aggressively, it should all be fun and respectful, but I want some spark and openness…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:01 AM

So are women who don't want or can't have kids as "innately invaluable" as men? And women's value is making kids - dude, somehow this doesn't sound as powerful and appealing but rather reductive. You're making women sound like tools, so who cares about "value" if it reduces you to a purpose beyond your own self
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:51 AM

Why are men not innately valuable?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:50 AM
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Say they want young women but most guys actually date around their age I think the guys who say that are not average guys so there's no contradiction. Say they want a natural woman but go for girls with heavy makeup They want someone who looks good and can't always tell that it's a result of make up. They would like a natural look so that they can be sure it's "real" but don't always recognize make up. I don't think they're actually lying because it's not that they want make up, they genuinely d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:32 AM
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I think it would make people even more equal and removing "ulterior motives" from relationships, they would be even more based on reasons like mutual connection and love. It is always better when people have more freedom and are together (or apart) by choice, not necessity. I assume no person today who truly loves their partner does so because of their ability to have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:23 AM
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I think it probably makes the most sense for people with disabilities to date each other as it would be really hard for a non disabled person to be with someone who is very different than them and has special needs. But of course if a connection happens and people are willing, why not, I am just saying it's probably not likely to aim for and it would make more sense to focus on people with a similar disability, whether it's physical or mental
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:20 AM
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And how many women who are married with kids cry because they feel stuck and wish they had careers and more freedom and had more fun in life If men can have kids and careers so can women, why should that be an issue for one gender and not the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:42 AM
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isn’t the man supposed to be the provider We're in 2023... this hasn't been a thing for decades now
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 08:42 AM
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Who wouldn't feel completely normal about this if you're both renting??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 08:42 AM
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But people are not obliged to use them in weddings, most probably don't. So what else can you do to update them, no one is forcing them in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:02 AM
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Vows are not obliging in any way, it's just a part of a certain type of ceremony. Everyone knows divorce is an option. It's not that deep, they're just ceremonial not any obliging agreement
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:19 AM

I think some people just hate the idea that women don't get their meaning and purpose by serving someone else and actually, like men, prefer freedom and living their lives their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:16 AM
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I don't know THAT guy, but I know many guys who are not very attractive and have girlfriends. A lot of them just found their niche in interests and life and don't really compete with some Brad Pitt types in their surroundings. E.g. I have a good friend who's really into cosplay and all the geeky shit, and whenever I'm with her circle of friends all the guys are kind of similar - not to tall, a bit fat, some beard, clearly no attention to fashion. And they have girlfriends who look average to ok,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:11 AM
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And the thing is, it is being nice. I don't get his epiphany that she doesn't actually want him being nice, what he describes is exactly being nice. Just less vague way of saying it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 07:06 AM
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How is that not being nice though? It's definitely more specific and clear, but I don't see any radical difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 07:04 AM
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I think both are friend zone
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:39 AM
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Yeah, the hardest period for a dog is when it's a puppy because of the excitement and eating everything and keeping it away from eating things that could hurt it, but even then it's manageable, you still have tons of free time when the puppy sleeps, and soon enough it becomes a best friend totally in tune with your lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:34 AM
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I really like animals, always wanted dogs but I love cats too.. I just love them. I never cared for kids. I hated kids when I was a kid. I'm at best at "distant tolerance" as an adult. I have no maternal instincts or desires, when I see a baby or a child, I don't feel any urge to care for it. When I see an animal I do have an urge to connect. PLUS: having pets isn't that hard, especially for a woman. I don't want to be pregnant or give birth. I don't want to play a roulette with what kind of per…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:33 AM

Alternative aesthetics existed way before that. It was actually a very big deal when I was growing up, where on one hand you had the alternatives (metal, punk and other) vs what I can best call "posh" kids who listened to either a horrible type of local music or general shit on the charts like rnb and pop. The two clans absolutely despised each other as I was growing up. I went to a high school that was much more alternative, and people would really look down on you if you were dressing posh or …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:22 AM
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Lol some of these are huge turn offs I guess: good looks (but please not hollywood lol) is romantic but not the way you described it, more like absolutely in love and loving to me. doesn't need to write poems incapable of cheating doesnt want kids but that's just basic boring compatability matter good humor though for me I care more that he works well with mine and finds me funny too rather than i care to be a stand up audience... and shouldnt joke all the time so it can get bad. But yeah good h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 03:51 PM
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Attraction is not just observing what someone else is like (looks/projected IQ/job or whatever it is you factually know about them), but how you are together, how they click with you. Flirting is a way to see if there's mutual attraction, how you bounce off each other, how easy/comfortable it is to talk to him, how your humor connects, how you feel in his presence etc, without putting anyone on the line or making some premature proclamations. I can see a hot guy who seems cool but that doesn't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:50 AM
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truerateme scale What is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:19 AM

People are getting better, and education makes a huge difference
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:40 AM
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A lot of people aren't that smart, and didn't grow up with good examples or role models. We can wonder why so many women AND men fall for frauds and liars but these are the people some circles create, and these people are stuck in those circles. Not saying it doesn't happen outside too, everyone can get fooled but in some environments it's seen as so common they don't even make a big deal out of it, it's just how guys/girls are, and so instead of being appalled they joke and commiserate with oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:58 AM
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Outside of US we can all go to bars and have been for years by the time we're 19
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:40 PM
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I mean it wouldn't bother me even if it was a choice. I don't see what's the big difference
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:08 AM
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They met under natural circumstances I am also not hardcore against this and I dated older guys in the past without absolutely any power imbalance or shadiness (not to the level that I think is weird but come on, people now think that 25 dating 19 is weird) I think a factor for a lot of people, is that a lot of people today have kind of similar lifestyles and interests. Like, you don't turn 25 and suddenly ditch your jeans for a suit and have it all figured out, you don't turn 30 and suddenly st…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:49 AM
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I feel like another difference is that compromise is about some exterior things and indicates an active agreement that maybe neither side is thrilled about but can work with. Settling in this context pertains directly to the person you're with. Basically, he/she can be a perfect person for you and you love each other like crazy, but since you both want to live in different cities you had to compromise and live in the one that works for both - this is a compromise you made for your partner but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:18 AM

It's pretty much impossible to align perfectly on two different people making the same money and even what your salary will be like at different points in time. If you get a raise, your partner shouldn't be penalized by having to do more chores especially if you work the same amount of time, wtf. If you have money then get a maid, your partner shouldn't have to work more at home just because you happen to have good salary at one point. IF you think they're dating you for money then don't be with…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:59 AM

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:11 AM

How does a relationship give you legacy? Even a child is simply a different life, what does it do for your mortality? Nothing Unfortunately everyone will die, nothing we do will change that. Being old is unpredictable, it can suck even if you have the best life now. IF anything your odds are slightly better if you have time to care for yourself Just to clarify, I think relationships and family are fine things for people who get actual enjoyment from them. I don't think they give life meaning or …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:18 AM

I mean I think you can compare the difficulty of two actual jobs but if two people work as hard and the same amount but one is paid more, I think for all purposes the work their put in counts as the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:13 AM

we'd be in counseling I see this so often on reddit but what can counseling really do here (plus it's an expense when you're out of one income!) that you can't figure out for yourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:11 AM

He was so progressive on so many other issues I just assumed this wouldn't be different but damn was I wrong. I'm just curious, did he approach this like a rationalized belief he had, or was it simply that he hated and was shit at caring for kids so he just conveniently made excuses once he realized?\ I think the problem here would be simply that a lot of people can't predict how they will feel about things in years time, especially things they never experienced before. Not excusing this guy at …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:08 AM
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It's true that a lot of male behaviors are kind of explained as simple by society (meaning both men and women) and female as complicated, even when they're the same. For example, I know that the old boomer-ish stereotype often referred to the fact some men cheat as a very straight forward thing - men just like women, they want to have sex with as many, but hey they'll go back to their girl so all is good. The fact some women cheat was always seen as complicated though, and of course there was no…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:34 AM
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I think confidence is a bit of a vague term that means different things to different people, from charisma to "please don't be like my annoying insecure ex". We can probably all think of a few very not conventionally attractive guys who still were attractive to us, but it's very hard for people to define why that was the case, especially in a way that can be used as some general principle or advice rather than a very individual combination of traits that ended up working, so you call it confiden…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:02 AM
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Probably arrange marriages, it may sound odd but it's done even among 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants, let alone first. I noticed a lot of people from such traditional places can seem totally westernized in every way when there, but then go home and get arrange married (or even have it arranged in the new country)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:39 AM
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I also think a lot of people think just if you communicate about something, it's automatically making it right and emotional responses to communication are always wrong. I don't know, i notice these weird expectations for human relationships online where it's all form over substance. As long as you say something calmly, sitting another person down, over a cup of tea and with a soothing tone, it's great. And if you react by getting angry, not wanting to talk for a while or in any way that isn't p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:06 AM
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I remember one saying to put an ice cube in your mouth while sucking his dick
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:06 AM
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Oh wow I remember that. I never really seeked out advice about these things (I don't think I ever had a talk with my mom about dating... ) but I did read the magazines as a kid and younger teen. In my country, a lot of the advice in teen ones seemed more focused on telling girls to only do things they're comfortable with and not get pressured. I think there were like 3 most common sex questions and answers - 1. I did (insert act that isn't sex) with a guy, can I get pregnant (answer: probably no…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:04 AM

There is also something a bit unappealing about people who are very into "self-improvement" (by this I don't mean the general concept of bettering yourself in different ways which is a natural strive, but this self-help, commercialized idea of it). IT's so generic and deliberate. It kind of tells people what to be, and if by the time you're an adult you're not an individual but someone following a 7-step programme by some (usually extremely off putting) self-help guru, it's kind of ew. I like mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:19 AM
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I feel like today people age better than ever before. 30ies look very young and hardly different from late 20ies for a lot of women. Especially the demographic that didnt have kids That's a pretty young age and people get into new relationships at all ages since even older relationships and marriages end. There's no age where you can no longer date, fall in love or start a new relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:30 AM
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Ok yes makes sense in the context. i guess it depends. I can understand not being over the top or going out all the time etc. But if your normal is very apathetic coexistence, I genuinely think the other person is correct in reading is lack of real love and connection So yes these cases can be very attention seeking people who need constant stimulation vs a more down to earth partner eho just wants to have a nice quiet evening but is still interesed in talking, hanging out even if its low key, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:12 PM
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well in my opinion ...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:00 PM
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I also don't believe in fighting for a relationship but you are not considering all situations and I feel like you're coming across as totally uncaring and blaming the person who wants to leave, because it seems they are just being manipulative in this scenario. But you might really be to blame, I want to explore that scenario. Maybe you did change and can look at yourself and not think "this is who i am" but rather "I was being an idiot, this isnt me and who i want to be like" However even then…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:41 PM
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Even without other men it is more enjoyable to be single then in a dead relationship. But I get your point I think maybe just very solid couples who were together for a long time have enough foundation to go for a while being so low key if they have something preoccupying them but even then Im sure they pick it back after a while, so they know they're ok and its just a phase
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:26 PM
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Well if you only start acting that way once the relationship ends or is threatened it just doesn't seem sincere. Why would she think you suddenly genuinely have more interest and engagement if all this time you showed none? It is clearly fake
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:44 AM
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Some girls would like to go out more. Some are ok being at home but would still want some kind of active engagement - having drinks together and good conversations, watching something, whatever. I feel like there's something so fundamentally sad about those old married couples who barely talk about anything that isn't purely practical ("We're out of milk!") and I think most girls desperately don't want that I also don't think the case is that women don't like men, but if you present yourself as …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:02 AM
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A lot of times I feel that the quality of life in a relationship kind of goes down for the girl. I know so many friends who after break up really felt free and rejuvenated because all the compromises within the relationship just left them worse off. And it's not that their boyfriends were abusive or some huge jerks, but it's just small things done out of consideration (like not going out with friends all the time anymore) that just don't get replaced with something better (e.g. going out with yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:38 AM
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This is a theory I heard about the topic, and I think also related to why women initiate more break ups in general, which kind of seems possible when I think of anecdotal examples I've seen and some stereotypes. I don't think of course this is true for many people and maybe represents older generations better than ours, although I did see it with some friends too The idea is that men put a lot of work at first but then stop, because that's not their natural behavior or personality but just them …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:15 AM
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Right, sounds psychotic. But to be fair in both cases
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:02 AM
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Nope. He puts too much effort into jerking off, it's weird. and yeah sex dolls are creepy as fuck, aside from humor value the idea of a guy using it is instant attraction killer
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:02 AM
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I don't know if today's make up (depends on the amount) makes skin look bad, or the fact you have bad skin makes you wear it. My skin goes from really good to getting zits or looking mildly irritated, and in that case I pick on it. If I'm in the latter stage I put some concealer to cover it which makes me look like I'm in the first stage. Both stages are my accurate looks. You don't look exactly the same every day I know some women really go out of their way to use make up in a way that changes …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:07 AM
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This is spot on. I think everyone feels good when they look good to themselves, but that joy is tied to the fact that when they look at themselves in the mirror, they look at themselves from another's eyes and they enjoy how the world will see them. By they I mean me too, probably everyone aside from some people who genuinely seem not to care about their appearance. I think this very absolute refusal to say you wear it for others actually came from the fact that you'd be accused of wanting a spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:57 AM
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Not to me, the guy made for an amusing story you sometimes tell when having conversations about freak encounters. It's fun and in general it's odd if you only remember profoundly important things, I'd get that checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:46 AM
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It depends. Lets say it was a great date and you had so much to talk about and made your own jokes and shit and on your way back or that night you continue the convo, send somethibg relevant to the topic (like "btw i just checked and youre right about xyz fact"..) or crack a joke you were both making... and even a simple "I had an awesome time" is a great thing to say when you clearly both had loads of fun Id be a bit disappointed if I met a guy and we clicked so well during the evening and then…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:58 PM
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I would love to go from discussing ancient greek philosophy to fucking without bothering with all the stupid flirty nonsense. Exactly!! When your mind is stimulated and the intellectual chemistry is there it can be so energizing and exciting. My idea of a great date is a 3h discussion about Stalin over beers haha And when that click is there, the other person can really trigger your mind the right way and the ideas and theories start flowing, you're making up stories together, reaching new concl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:00 AM
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I am sorry in advance for playing the "who has it worse" shit, but this is about something I always noticed. I think everyone who's ugly really has shit luck in life But I noticed that female looks ALWAYS get brought up no matter who the woman is and what is her relevance, as if calling a woman ugly is the worst insult. She can be a politician, a random person you disagree with, a professor, an artist... somehow her looks will always be discussed. Actually not even if you dislike her, even just …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:04 AM
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I also never used a dating profile because I meet people in person, though I heard funny stories from my friends and god these profiles sound abysmal. I think if I did opt for a dating profile, anything that sounds like marketing himself or listing demands is gross. I would probably go for a profile that seems like it was done by someone who is really not into it (like me) and is feeling awkward to even be doing this (like I would). So he'd put something very simple, a bit dry but normal type of…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:28 AM
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Because a topic came up he's a great representation of. I don't know how your memory works but I remember things pretty well, doesn't mean they were important to my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:22 AM
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Well if you're sociable and don't have any inherent physical restraints and inhibitions (I don't use these in a bad way), it is natural that at a point in your life when you're going out a lot you'll meet many people of the opposite sex, if you're fun and talkative you'll get closer to them and hook up easily. A night can be passionate but it doesn't mean you're looking for a relationship especially if you're focused on other things and have other plans, and enjoy doing it again. There's a rush …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:01 AM
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So... how does that make independence a negative trait?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:51 AM
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Women have an ego too and probably arent interested in being with a man who requires them to lose spine to make him feel superior. it is that men need to be better than you at everything because your attraction to us depends on it. Seriously, ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:32 AM
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I have dated women who had this weird idea that they need to be independent, successful, educated, and assertive in order to attract a man who is all of those things. Couldn't it just be she was all these things and liked being them? I personally find it extremely weird that you'd associate these things with being a man even if you aren't particularly attracted to them - I have no such association, so curious about where you're from. I prefer being these things than having a man, but I never had…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:30 AM
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What is the point of being with someone who is only with you because they literally have no escape? That person doesn't want you, they are just out of options, how does that feel good? An independent person with options chooses you, and they are with you because they want to - that is the definition of love. Want, not a need or desperation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:15 AM
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I don't really see ghosting as that terrible unless people are already in a relationship and it's not abusive in any way like you said. If two people are just going on dates, I don't think it's a problem and i think it's self explanatory. You don't know the person well enough and don't want to bother going on another date and having to explain yourself and deal with their responses (sure you can "break up" over text instead of ghost too but it depends on the context) I also assume that for most …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:54 AM
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I kind of get this even as a girl, of course this puts me in a very different situation because most of the time guys will put the effort but I also understand what you're saying. For example, I am really not a physical person, it occasionally even made me feel awkward around girls who were by nature very touchy and physically affectionate with friends. I think it's no coincidence that all my close friends are very similar to me and we never really hug or touch. But some women are very physical,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:34 AM
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Naturally for sure. The learned behavior is off putting Having said that I don't think your description of the naturally attractive guy is the same as mine, I don't like flirts or huge extroverts, and I'm ok with a more withdrawn, thoughtful and introverted guys as long as he has no interest in changing and following these idiotic tips I'm also confused about the premise because your title made me think you're talking about looks, where again I'd choose natural any time because I don't like men …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:25 AM
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What is a sink? Gen Z women seeing reality for what it is What is that? promoting a traditional life with a husband. Really? No idea if that's a thing or not but I do wonder why and in what way do you mean traditional?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:41 AM
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I'm just gonna say, I highly doubt most women consider their boyfriends better looking than them. In fact I'm pretty sure most women feel their boyfriend's being attracted to them is a sign they're attractive...not that she's dating "above her level" even if you think she is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:40 AM
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A woman can have an experience where (in rough terms) a 9/10 guy wanted to commit to her but things didn't work out for some other reason, and where another 9/10 guy didn't want to commit to her. Men are different too. Hell, she could experience a loyal 8/10 who wanted to commit and a 6/10 who cheated on her or didn't like her that much in the first place. I am not disconnected from reality to say it's all subjective but a reasonably good looking woman will have some men fall in love with her an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:37 AM
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But is not wanting to date bi men phobic in any way if we have no issue with them as people, their rights, sexuality etc., but just don't want to date them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:14 AM
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I honestly would not enjoy a too extroverted guy with tons of friends. Maybe i won't even like all of his friends, if it's just a few good ones there's better chance I'd get to know and like them, the more they are the more it all seems superficial and annoying. I also like that the can be focused on building deeper relationships with few people as a personality type, rather than constantly need new people. I will prefer someone who prefers seeing someone they've known for 10 years 5 times a wee…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:49 AM
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Nah I dont think the two are competing. I think those against it are so because of religious, moral or other ideology that isnt related to their own gender many women would be disgusted to be with a guy who slept with prostitutes but legalizing it wouldnt change much here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:42 AM
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I know Im sounding like "no you" but I have to respond because this is actually something that has been pissing me off tremendously from the other side I feel whenever womens EQUAL rights are discussed a point needs to be made about how it benefits children or society in general (I mean if women are half of society than even something just benefitting them benefits society... so is society men?) Like "children of educated mothers actually do better" Like its not enough to just say 50% of humanit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:14 AM
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It depends, if you don't put that much value on sex or even extremely dislike it with strangers, it's not really any fun you're missing on or anything you're wasting. I definitely think experiences are important for personal growth but not so much just sex alone. I can't really say i see a random sexual encounter as my idea of fun or time well spent, I put much more value on sweet moments or deep conversations i had, not the act of sex really Also, I really don't want to sound conservative becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 08:14 AM
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Yes of course.. but for me sexually attracted doesnt mean i actually want to have sex right away. I can be physically turned on but not really want sex itself if that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:50 AM
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I mean yeah it would depend on how you'd look like as a man but the premise of the post is that we wouldn't be able to manage it personality-wise. in that sense if you turn into a really hot guy or a really ugly guy there's not much to do either way
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:24 AM
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hate and lust wtf I mean the whole comment is wtf but this especially
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:03 AM
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God no, never!!! I'd never date a guy who'd ever ask that of me in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:52 AM
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Eh I disagree, my stepbrother used to chat with girls online and then ask me for help with what to say, and they'd all end up LOVING me after I'd talk to them. I think as a girl, I'd be much better at flirting with girls than an average guy I actually found it really fun. And btw aside from pretending to be a guy, I didn't lie about things e.g. pretend to be rich or have accomplishments I don't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:48 AM
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I don't know if this is a result of social pressures on women or what, but I really always did care about being seen as pretty. Looks were never something I seemingly obsessed over or my main thing but from when i can remember I needed affirmation that Im pretty, that I look better than other girls etc. So many times when men approached me or catcalled me (as long as they weren't pushy), I actually got some elevation from it, no matter how many times it happened, no matter how much I knew Im pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 08:44 AM
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I'd say today both men and women peak in their 30ies
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 04:11 AM
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I don't think so, but women are also all individuals and it's normal that everyone doesnt always like each other, both as people and groups of people/types. I also dont like that pseudo feminist pressure that women all need to support each other - ill like and support people i personally like, men or women. As for working with women and for women - my experiences have been great, and I've seen men doing all the stereotypical things women are usually accused of in the workspace. I know this is al…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 04:08 AM
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Not at that point, they're the ones getting seduced
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:06 PM
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I think its not because of money but because it shows how grateful and interested he is
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 03:51 AM
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It's important if it's bad but irrelevant if it's good. It plays no factor in my attraction or connection to person. But id never date someone who wants me to support them. As long as he can take care of his own existence i dont care. I also don't see relationships as a way to improve my own finances so i don't care about that. I dont like men who are obsessed with making money as people so that can also be off putting. Id always rather be with someone well educated and knowledgable about things…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 03:50 AM
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I think plots focused around two guys who have a special, often dramatic or even antagonistic friendship where there are some gay undertones but it's not fully realized, just constant hints and material for fantasy. Im not the only girl who always loved that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:10 AM
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I guess it will be harder but you should stil keep friendships completely platonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:08 AM
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Americans always sound like they can't stand each others families and want to be as far away as possible. In my country involved grandparents really enable parents to have freedom to live their own life, while the kid is happier to have many people who love them around. Seems like a win win. I certainly wouldn't like to be with anyone who doesn't respect and love my family or who has an issue with having them as active parts of my life
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:47 PM
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Hm not exactly but I once grabbed a random guy and kissed him without having had any previous interaction with him before, kind of like on a self set dare
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:55 PM
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If your negative is that you can't be superior to 50% of population.. sorry don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:25 PM
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Ignore the whole gender thing for a bit. If a person, any person, says they want to be pampered and receive gifts more than they want to pamper someone and give them gifts, you may be fair in assuming they're egotistical or unfair (however if they're able to get the desired treatment, then why not want it?) But how does it follow that the same personality would want to be unequal and "under" the person who pampers them? You're saying that's how it was before for women, but that's irrelevant. Mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 07:30 AM
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It's like with secrets - sometimes you can say something to a complete stranger because they don't know you so it doesn't matter, or you can say it to someone you know and trust completely. But you can't say it to someone you're just getting to know, who will be in your life tomorrow but you don't fully know or trust yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:15 PM
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Seems like something niche
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:28 PM
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Because that depends on the woman. Who makes you happy depends on your temperament, intellect and personality. One girls dream guy could be totally lame to a different type. But safe to say someone who matches you well and brings out the best in you, who makes you feel good and with whom you have a great understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:29 AM
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Well the line "and you prefer to be alone" is the key. Maybe the woman in question isn't feeling she needs to be in a relationship so even if her standard for one is high, she's not harmed by it because she likes her life. Whereas if she got with someone her life would be less good because it would have to accommodate a person she's not very keen on
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:27 AM
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Hm I also think that high libido people who don't have a chance to have regular sex might not be that high libido as they are desperate and without any outlet. And I do have a feeling that its often unattractive people that seem to be into kinky stuff which feels a bit like overcompensating Simply put, when you can have sex and with people you're attracted to and who are attracted to you, normal (vanilla) sex is a pretty passionate act. You don't have anything to prove. You also don't need to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:26 AM
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In my language there isn't really a wide use for the word "date". We have some terms but they are anachronistic or awkward (think slang no one uses). You'd say something like "go out with" like "I went out with Luke yesrerday". Same can be used platonically although here you more often go with "I met" as in "i met with Ana yesterday". But it's not like saying that you're dating and both can be used. You don't use it when asking someone out though When you ask someone out you normally ask them di…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:45 AM
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Dude i also checked your pic in your history and am also not trying to be mean or put you down but i don't consider you attractive and I wouldn't assume you're broadly considered attractive (e.g. I don't consider certain people hot but can see that they would be seen as such, not so much here.) For the niche you're fitting in with your physique and style you have very rough facial features, big ears, broad nose etc. The hot gothy type is normally more elegant with very classical facial features.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:12 AM
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One example. Elimination of gender roles has brought no benefit at all to society, it was nothing more than a idealistic idea. Dude you're tripping. I'm so happy I'm living in the world where feminism got me equality because I wouldn't want to live in any other one. There is no life with dignity in that, it's like saying world was better with slavery I don't see a single negative in an equal society (unless you find it positive to be on the side that is held superior to other people by keeping t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:39 AM
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A mix of that comfort and excitement to just talk and click intellectually, exchange ideas and inspire each other. Like you can't wait to talk again, there's always something to say and share and recommend, you want to know what he thinks about something, you need to tell him what you think, the more you talk the more doors open to other topics and it seems endless, like both of you want to know everything in each others minds and every day just adds more to that list Loving myself through his e…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:02 AM
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Well first of all, i think 30 is a very arbitrary age. Maybe it depends on where someone lives but women in their 30ies and 40ies today look great, what do people assume would happen suddenly? But in your 30ies you're more confident, you're not trying to imitate cool behaviours to impress (be the "cool girl" for example) because you see through it, you know what you like and what you don't, you're knowledgeable and not easy to impress by posers. I was talking to my friends about this recently, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:51 AM
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This has nothing to do with feminism and it affects girls too. It's just a different view of parenting, perceived dangers, more talk about things like social anxiety and other conditions... I'm kind of divided, I don't want to say that being more aware of psychology is a bad thing, in some ways it's very good, but I do think the line between a disorder and simple personality is way to blurred. I mean it's normal for many temperaments to feel anxiety when having to do something new, meet new peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:40 AM
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when i was young, the spergy kid was forced out there, his awkwardness be damned This is so true. I mean same with girls, socialising isn't naturally easy for everyone. I was an extremely shy kid when it came to meeting new children or groups, I always just wanted to hold on to one friend in a comfort zone. But that's how it was, you had to go out and play and figure it out for yourself. As much as I hated it sometimes I'm glad because I honestly believe that if I was a kid today, my parents wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:15 AM
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Just some theories but I think the overall socialisation is lower and anxieties are higher. When I was a kid (and maybe this is still somewhat true for my country) you're just pushed out to play with other kids alone, you can be shy but you end up having to overcome a lot of these things in the process and just end up being able to socialize. I was a shy child. I hated having to meet new kids, I just wanted to have one friend and a comfort zone. But you just end up rolling with it. If I was grow…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:01 AM
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Of course, that's how connections are made. Besides I hate flirting and flirts. Its boring The best is to have a real good conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:38 PM
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I just see it as a part of my shower routine. It doesn't bother me much Clearly my aesthetics were influenced by this being a social norm but at this point I don't like having hairy legs or armpits because I don't like how it looks and feels But overall I don't see the big deal, I don't feel oppressed by this or wish hairiness was more attractive I've also never dated anyone who'd ever have an issue if I skipped on shaving for a bit for whatever reason, but tbh I just don't like to. Even if I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:56 AM
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I'm using this out of convenience because there's so much more but look at this twitter thread and just keep scrolling : https://mobile.twitter.com/liliandaisies/status/1557081058461581312 It aims to debunk with evidence some popular misconceptions and it includes parts about physical violence. There is evidence about his physical violence. His assistant had a conversation over text with Amber about how Johnny kicked her on a plane and how bad he feels about it In several recordings between them…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:23 AM
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What is so obvious here? Most people, including tons of women, absolutely hate her guts and blindly support Johnny
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:54 AM
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Well the public heard it too and that's what the jury is, just a bunch of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:53 AM
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Literally looking at the evidence is what got me to change my opinion from the impression I got based on public commentary. The moment I actually looked into it, I realized he was a fucked up and abusive guy and I ended up feeling bad for her. Before that I blindly accepted that she's some psycho and he a victim
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:52 AM
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Not true, pretty much everyone was blindly against her and women overwhelmingly support Johnny. I was very passively following the case (you can't avoid it) and just accepted that she's a total monster. Then one day after youtube for no reason sent me the millionth video about something horrible she did/said I had the urge to play the fevils advocate and actually look a little into the case, not even thinking she'll come out looking ok but more like " is she really that stupid, what was even her…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:39 AM
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him talking about raping exes with Marilyn Manson wasn't allowed into evidence, What was that part, I missed this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:54 AM
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Hmm I think Depp was much worse than Heard from what I've seen even though she lost the case. I don't see her as an abuser at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:53 AM
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It depends if its dirty or not, although I'm not sure if the former should even count as compliments (guys probably would) I actually don't mind getting compliments in public but only if there's no expectation that I need to reply or engage with the person giving them But then you also have to think that these people probably do it all the time so it's not a very special compliment Just reminded me, there is this one local song about a girl in a village who is so hot that apparently whatever nor…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:32 AM
2

I don't want to marry either so if i must I'll marry A but nothing will change about our relationship, we'll be roomates who signed a piece od paper
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:39 AM
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A lot of people wouldn't want to date someone with friends they're/were ever attracted to - I certainly wouldn't. I also don't see those friendships as real friendships. If someone is attracted to me our dynamics is different and I have boundaries I don't need with platonic friends. If I'm attracted to soemone I don't want their friendship. I get that some people are different and want different things but I'm just saying for a lot of people from different perspectives, it is a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:40 AM
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Yes! I think a lot of more obvious mysoginists really do have very little connections and experiences with women or come from very traditional backgrounds and also don't have connections with modern women. They're kind of unaccepted and unaccepting. They don't come across as charming. But maybe in their defense some even treat people close to then well and don't have abusive temperaments (probably some do of course), they just express their general frustrations through their views. Then when som…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:28 AM
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Well I wouldn't put up with someone's female friends either. .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:17 AM
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but it’s short sighted in the long term. I don't think it's short sighted. What good can come from mixing friendships and attraction, even if no one acts upon the latter? At one point you will fall for someone and want a relationship and how will that person feel about this kind of friends? I just think it's much sounder to have only completely platonic friendships and if that means same sex only (with some exceptions that are completely self evidently platonic, e.g. family, age difference, them…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:16 AM
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I don't think people should be friends with anyone they're attracted to in the first place. I'm not saying men and women can't be friends because there are contexts where it works, but it can't be the same pure friendship and is likely to come with complications
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:12 AM
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Well like I said I don't mean it in an extreme way where a woman is completely cold. But I'm more likely to think a woman is losing her dignity if she reaches out first, gives more of herself, tries a bit harder etc while for a man that threshold is higher, I expect him to take more care of the woman's ego without seeing it as undignified for him. I just expect men to be a bit more grandiose, a bit more soft to a woman, a bit more romantic. I expect a woman to have this side of her that is pride…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:54 AM
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grew up really egalitarian and for the most part I think i have no different standards but I did notice I have a few biases I definitely expect men to be more outwardly interested and complimentary towards the woman they like/love, while I expect the woman to be a bit more cool. Basically a man who is very nonchalant and doesn't extend special attention and maybe validation to a woman he is with comes off to me as very cold, disinterested, even rude. I think he doesn't love her. If he is giving …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:20 AM
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I never did, the idea of taking hormones really freaked me out and it seems like too much investment to have to take it daily all the time just for sex. I prefer that my boyfriend just uses a condom and IUD is a more solid option moving forward. And I like oral sex more anyway It certainly makes no sense to be on the pill when you only have sex semi-regularly, keeping in mind it's a daily commitment. But I feel like many people assume girls are. My periods are regular and painless, so i don't ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:32 AM
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It's not really something I ever noticed or thought about since I don't follow them, but I think it's weird as fuck and would never take such guy seriously (even if the reason is that he finds these girls genuinely interesting - no comment about his taste...) It's REALLY embarrassing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:12 AM
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I don't give my "sexual best" lol as if it's some kind of gift. I do what I feel like doing in the moment, what feels good to me and i do enjoy satisfying whoever is my partner within the activities I'm comfortable with doing. I think I'm good at sex but I'm not going to go out of my way and do anything I don't want or don't enjoy personally. I do get satisfaction from turning a guy on and making him come and I know how to achieve that without giving more from myself than I'd like If it didn't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:50 AM
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No respect for it, don't do it myself
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:27 AM
2

Why are you saying he only defended himself when there were so many instances when he physically abused her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:27 AM
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Ok well for us majority in urban areas this really plays no role in our daily lives. I don't notice any difference in skills between men and women I know I also assume women in rural areas had to learn more shit as well, at least from what I've heard. Life of peasant women was extremely rough and filled with hard manual labour (I mean it must be much better today but just saying this is more of a regional and lifestyle difference, I'm telling you the reality for my generation and urban life)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:54 PM
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Neither of us do these kinds of things, we live in an apartment. No guy I know including my dad does these things, they get a service like everyone else Except taking out trash but what woman doesn't do that? As for bugs, who ever is less afraid. We're afraid of different bugs but if there's a roach we're calling a third person in (my parents thought both aren't scared of that) Lol seriously show me an average guy who does carpentry and plumbing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:58 AM
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She is clearly not phsyicuslly comfortable with sex and has inhibitions for whatever her personal reasons are. You pushed too far for her comfort and she wants to back off the whole thing because she's not into you anymore and it's too much
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:53 AM
6

Isn't the logic - some men pay hookers because of sex and some pay them because they leave after
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:40 PM
4

Actually I'd always advise guys to test the waters rather than just randomly ask a girl out. I don't really think it's a good advice at all
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 01:12 PM
4

A hamster? Sorry but if I know a guy and spend some time around him and he shows no indication of being into me why the hell would I ask him out? People show interest
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 08:33 AM
4

I have sex later on not because of any games but because I just don't feel comfortable having sex with someone I don't know well. I don't attach many emotions to sex or anything it's just a privacy thing. Many of my friends are totally different than me. I have no moral issue with girls who like one night stands and easily engage in sex and I am not experiencing any social pressures towards either side. But I have my inhibitions and I have no issue with them I guess I can satisfy myself and don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:58 AM
3

He probably isn't that into you if after knowing him and liking him for a while he still didn't do anything that would make you feel sure he's into you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:49 AM
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Of course, people can feel in love with someone they never had sex with, there's nothing friendshipy about that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:47 AM
1

Once I randomly kissed a stranger guy because I said I would as a dare or something, but that was quite a while back. He did end up being my boyfriend at the time But never asked a number
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:45 AM
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I had maybe 3-4 times, most notable one time I was alone in a coffee shop doing something on my laptop and this guy was leaving, he approached me with his number and said something like how he noticed me and liked me and hopes we could get together for some coffee. I thought it was really clever because he did it on a way out and I didn't need to say yes or no to his face, but I did tell him I had a boyfriend. I would never really do it either way but that guy was cute
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:44 AM
1

I'm not going on a date if we can't go somewhere and have some drinks and talk, what do you just go to people's homes or sit on a bench? Not ideal ..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:03 AM
3

Look, I believe it's fair to split. I was taught to split, and rationally I can't argue it at all, at best I can see some merit behind that idea that the one doing inviting should pay but that makes more sense if we're talking about inviting a person to something otherwise expensive or exclusive where they wouldn't go themselves. Just going for drinks, of course people should split. Having said that, here is my bias. I always always was ready to pay for myself, and I'd insist, but guys always go…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:01 AM
1

I literally know what I'm talking about, I had religious education and am quite familiar with the way Church operates. Masturbating is a sin let alone any sexual act that can't lead to procreation, not having sex is never a sin
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 01:10 PM
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That's a very undefined saying that doesn't translate to having to have sex lol, how do you even interpret that. Plus it's a part of a wedding ceremony, which doesn't even have anything to do with religious definitions of sins. Sins are very clearly defined by the church. What I listed are sins, there's no confusion about it because the church considers them sins. No such thing about having to have sex with anyone even your husband. A priest would advise you to so that you can procreate but as l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:44 PM
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It's not a sin to not have sex, even very strictly speaking. It is a sin to have protected sex, oral sex/handjobs or do sexual acts that don't lead to the chance of having kids. So if you don't want any more children and you follow religion strictly the only thing you can really do is not have sex. Obviously majority of even quite religious people don't follow it that strictly but that's it is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:33 PM
-1

Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 09:01 AM
1

Wow, is woman "giving" kids to a man? I thought she was having kids with a man...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:52 AM
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I can respect people's religion and I know how it is, but even so religion allows you to get a divorce. It can be a bit complicated as the pope needs to approve (at least for Catholics) but it's regularly done. She liked the idea of being religious I mean, she isn't committing a religious sin by not having sex if she doesn't have more kids. I think I get the issue very well now. They were both religious so they think contraception is a sin. They have 2 kids and she doesn't want to get pregnant a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:50 AM
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Wow that's messed up. He should have divorced her right away. Weird though that she'd wait the whole relationship and not one but two kids to say that and such belief never came out before... (or maybe was new). Still seems something went wrong with her/them but obviously I can't say what
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:01 AM
3

You can get emotional support from friends of the same sex, family, mentor figures etc where there is no confusion of those platonic connections and romance
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:56 AM
1

And I love when the euphemism for that is sexual exploration, like your girlfriend isn't willing to "explore" because she won't let you do something to her she might find viscerally disgusting like anal sex My logic is, if I'm having a sex with a guy I want to do things to him that make him feel good and I want him to to things to me that make me feel good. If he wants me to explore by doing something to his body, sure.. but lol you're not going to frame doing something to another person that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:37 AM
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But unless she said she never did it before, what is the lie? She might have been doing something she hated or realized she hated it after doing it. What's so unusual about that, if she was into it she'd be wanting to do it still
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:31 AM
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I guess 2 kids can really physically or mentally mess up a woman. I feel bad for her even more, since she also clearly can no longer enjoy sex. I don't praise people for not cheating - divorce is an option, I don't care how they were raised
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:27 AM
5

As a housewife you only answer to your man Which seems like a pretty big issue to me... who wants that in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:32 PM
1

Wait is that a bad thing? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:27 PM
1

Why is it your dream? Is it more the not working aspect or is it being with kids all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 01:19 PM
3

Thats also a good point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 01:05 PM
3

Is there no state in US where daycare is free or subsidised? Are people asking for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 12:14 PM
3

Yeah I find it so common for grandparents to take a very active role to everyone's enjoyment- grandparents are beloved by their grandkids and stay close to their children, helping with lunch and childcare, parents feel supported and have more time for work and leisure, kids adore having different adults in their life loving them and being close to grandparents.. But when I hear Americans talk about their parents or inlaws uts like they can't stand having them around, and if so they have to say a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 12:10 PM
3

The nanny state can take away your freedoms whenever they want, What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 11:58 AM
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I went to a kindergarten, it's so normal here that literally everyone does it and did it, and grandparents babysitting is also super normal. It never occurred to me to think of kindergarten teachers as parents, I didn't even particularly like them but it is an important experience for kids to socialize with other children and to also experience being around adults whose life doesn't revolve around them. I can say that although I didn't like kindergarten it was good because otherwise I'd be spoil…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 11:56 AM
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Ok sorry in my country kindergarten and daycare are synonymous, it's the place little kids go to while parents work before school age
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 11:52 AM
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But what about it full time is so fulfilling you're willing to risk your independence and ability to earn? What I mean is, even a working parent is still a parent too
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:45 AM
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I think it's kind of crazy in cases with billionaires because come on, the stay at home moms who probably had to do the least as they had servants and nannies are entitled to 50% whereas other SAHM get much less for doing much more (I mean obviously since you can only get paid from what the husband made). It's just weird. I totally understand alimony after learning more about US and why women there still stay at home but I would put a cap on it, you simply can't say it earns someone millions..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:40 AM
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I find that so weird. I find it perfectly normal that parents would use daycare and grandparents, for one it's a way for the kid to socialize and interact in other environments, especially kindergartens where they're around other kids the same age. It doesn't mean the parents aren't raising the child but they don't need to be with it all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:35 AM
3

Majority of teachers and nurses are women that doesn't mean that majority of women are teachers and nurses
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:31 AM
1

That's so sweet. Why did they get divorced if you don't mind me asking, just curious?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:30 AM
4

I really think being a stay at home parent is a VERY stupid decision
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:29 AM
2

That's so crazy to me since when you're employed is when you need subsidized insurance the most, what happens with Americans between jobs who break a leg or get cancer?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:25 AM
5

That sounds really scary. Are you sure that is the right choice for you, is there no way to work even a more relaxed job (from home or part time even) that doesn't pay that great but can help you switch easier if you need it later?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:24 AM
1

Does it get subsidized for retired people?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:17 AM
4

For guys who aren't really into dancing and loud music but more into talking, pubs are also a great option. People are relaxed with drinks and groups can merge together easily, you can have a good, fun chat and take it to the next level. It's less instantly physical like with dancing but it's a good way to connect with the person quickly and drinks and fun still build good chemistry Its also a good way to meet someone you end up dating
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 08:22 AM
1

I prefer jeans and tshirt over fashionista guys ... the latter are so not my type
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 06:47 AM
4

increase in marriage age, You say it like it's a bad thing. People have much better quality of marriages now that are real friendships and partnerships so they spend more time together before marriage and spend more time growing up . It means people actually want to be together as self assured adults and not just as naive and often pressured kids Divorce rates were the highest when it first stopped being a taboo so many got to leave their shit marriages (past marriages lasting long says very lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 06:31 AM
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Uh this is infuriating. Presumably if he got angry and tried to take her camera away or yell at her to stop recording (which I'd do) she would post it and he would look mental (he wouldn't but I can see why he would fear that). So he has to accept an outrageous privacy violation from his own wife, while trying to get her to stop, and even then she posts it and frames it as if he's the one acting ridiculous It's pretty sadistic and sick, what's wrong with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 06:26 AM
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This is psychotic and the fact she actually went and posted this is insane. Yes he is quite literally feeling ashamed and uncomfortable and upset about having his privacy violated. He tells her. She doesn't give a shit as she forces a clearly personal topic and pretty much laughs off his discomfort as a joke and silliness and later an issue on his end. Was this after the Oscars?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 05:43 AM
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And it's not always about literal cheating, it's also about respect. Imagine your partner spending time and attention on some girl/guy who thinks they have a special relationship with them or what not? It doesn't matter if they have sex or not, that alone is not ok
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:07 AM
1

Aren't you part of "the society"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 05:59 AM
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I mean honestly it seems you're both on the same page and she's been in the awkward situation before where she doesn't want to be rude when someone is imposing but is uncomfortable about it. So I think if you're both cool with how you're socializing, it's respectful to each other and it's more comfortable for both of you, it makes good sense. You can always let more loose when you're both together That was definitely a shit (ex) friend with an agenda
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 05:51 AM
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Actually that's really fucked up from that friend's side . Even if your wife was single, you don't just change the social dynamic without checking with the person - you have to let people know who will be there etc. I'd be so annoyed For me cafes are usually not places where people interact with other tables, it's like a restaurant, each group for themselves at their table. Just because you can drink alcohol doesn't mean it's a party atmosphere it's more of a conversational atmosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 05:34 AM
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You don't know any guys who don't talk about sports and booze? I never felt like I needed friends of whatever gender to fulfill the need for a specific conversation topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:53 AM
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But I'm not talking about men, just female friends. So you seriously wouldn't be OK with her going to her best friends place for example, drinking alcohol and talking to girl friends until late hours? Or going to a cafe/bar and sitting at a table with her friends talking over drinks in the evening? That's basic social life and doesn't involve other men or any strangers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:50 AM
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In my mind, I don't care if someone wants to fuck their ex, I simply don't want to be with a guy who has the need to meet and drink with his ex in the first place. The act itself to me is a break of trust and pretty disrespectful Plus people dont need to trust blindly if the actions of their partner sends the opposite message. I never understood that idea that you trust someone enough not to have sex while putting themselves in situations that are inappropriate, at that point does it even matter…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:45 AM
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Well you can be up until 2 am drinking with friends without hanging out with guys and grinding on anyone. You can go to pubs or friends place, drink and talk - what most people do when they socialize
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:42 AM
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I actually see this on both sides, a lot of girls want to be cool and self secure but when you hear them trying to rationalise the behaviours they accept from their boyfriends it's just really sad I've seen it said to men too of course so I understand what you're talking about I generally agree, you're not insecure for saying "I don't want this in my life/relationship" and standing by it. You're more insecure when you talk yourself into playing cool and inside you suffer, and this is usually the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:37 AM
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Because the only real answer is bars and friends and with op removing that option what can you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:27 AM
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I think love is the key, the main point, without it a relationship doesn't make sense. But yes, on top of it other things like compatibility are important too, and while love won't always prevail it is easier to sort out practical issues when the desire is real. However, no amount of compatibility will make up for lack of love and true connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 08:05 AM
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Sorry but I don't know anyone who is in love and has flings with other people. Maybe they liked being a "power couple" to other people, they certainly weren't each others one and only, which is a quality essential to showing just how in love you are
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 07:59 AM
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I am annoyed by unreasonable jealousy and possessiveness like everyone else, I am talking about the more poly view where desire for monogamy itself is negative because you want to "possess your partner" etc. But that need for exclusivity, that line that you want to be the only one for this person, that stems from the same passion that makes romantic love what it is. Someone who is so enlightened that they're perfectly fine to be with other people to me isn't really in love, those couples are so …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 07:16 AM
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I don't agree with half of your points but some of it is true, I worked abroad for a while in a very multicultural city in Asia where political corectness isn't a thing and my boss would often tell me very directly (funnily it wasn't a dig at me at all) about how he needs to hire someone from xyz job but it should be a guy because he needs someone he can bother at any time And look is true. The married moms have their personal life and don't want to be bothered after work hours. There is also a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 06:39 AM
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It's a complacent and cowardly choice, not a grown up choice. A grown up can manage a divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 06:23 AM
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I think parents would teach their children something important by showing them they have self respect and desire to pursue a better life and relationship than staying with someone who cheated on them. And show you have control over your life and its never too late to start again. Honestly today using children as a reason to not get divorced is a bit pase, it's no longer some big trauma, most kids parents are divorced. People who are so mature they can stay together in a shit marriage and act rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 06:20 AM
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And honestly even for the cheater, they should not get back together because no matter how "bad" they feel now they'll have to constantly prove themselves and live like the bad one in the relationship. Not that I have sympathy for cheaters but really I wouldn't want to be with someone who thinks I have to prove myself to them either, it will get so tiring because the relationship balance would be so distorted. Imagine getting back together but now you're scrutinized on every step
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 06:18 AM
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But isn't the full story that they had an open marriage and presumably he cheated on her many times, we don't even know who started it but he is the famous actor in the couple so...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 06:14 AM
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Yes... I feel anger on their behalf and then at them, I want to shake those people up and tell them to get a spine. It is very hard for me to see someone accepting this kind of treatment and that weakness in them irritates me I even find it hard to respect people who are into open relationships and polyamory because all I see is that someone is ok with their partner having sex with other people, and I think they have no self respect
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 06:06 AM
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while continuing to look for an 'upgrade' to trade them in for is unethical, and worthy of shaming. Ok agreed I guess my pov was that I thought op was oversimplifying why people do it But yes now that I think of it some people are just monsters really
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 05:36 PM
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Yeah, but that still doesn't negate the fact that the person who was used and then dumped had invested their time, emotional well being, and possibly their money into the person for potentially x amount of years. Sunk cost fallacy, let's not have them invest more into someone like that. It's not like such a person can feel anything more at best what you're saying is them just sticking in there out of duty
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 05:24 PM
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I agree but then I'd just say someone who's always looking for something better doesn't really love the person he's with and it would again be a win for his partner if they left them in the long run. Like, you shouldn't be with someone because you're doing the smart thing in spite of your instincts, you should be with them because you don't want to do anything else Personally I'd always rather be dumped than be unaware that I'm with someone who doesn't really love me the way I want to be loved. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:56 PM
1

I'm aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 11:21 AM
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Sure, ignore the rest...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 11:06 AM
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Yet women have this "body positivity movements" "you are good queen with your curves", if the women can't hold a man, the responses are, "oh he is a looser it must be him that don't know what he lost, it never can't be that you did something wrong". Do people really not understand that NO ONE actually means this, it's just something you say to be polite and silently thank god you don't look that way... It's just commonly understood bullshit. A simple social ritual some engage in not much differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:55 AM
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Sure, ignore the rest...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:53 AM
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My evidence is being human and spending my life around other humans. My evidence is knowing what its like to love and be loved. And even if you don't believe me about the basic experience of romantic love for normal humans capable of true emotion (wow), what point is it to claim you romantically love two people when those people don't want to be "loved" like that and want someone who will love them alone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:45 AM
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If you are, you don't love either. And if you had respect for either one you wouldn't have them continue being with someone whose love isn't for them only. Most people have a great need to be loved exclusively. By staying together you're actually hurting them and disrespecting them rather than leaving and waiting until and if you find someone who can have your full romantic love
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:36 AM
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If the relationship is going well you don't fall in love with another person. You wouldn't even have this thought or dilemma. If something is going well in a pure sense that you don't fight and are compatible about some practicalities or what not, and you fall for another person, then clearly you're not feeling it. Be honest to yourself and end the relationship, it can be functional as hell but if the feelings aren't there what's the point? If you even have to consider staying or leaving to purs…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:10 AM
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"Upgrade" sounds awful if that's how you approach it, like I'm replacing person A with person B because they're better at xyz. It's usually genuine emotions, lack of connection and happiness in a relationship or marriage, the click with someone else that reminds them that things could be better. A man I respect and love immensely had that happen to him with his first wife, he wasn't happy, they got together young, had kids though, but it wasn't right. He fell in love with another woman. He was h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:07 AM
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It's a nasty and selfish thing to do to someone. How is it good to stay with someone you don't love that way, like are you so amazing that you're doing them a huge favour for sticking with them although your feelings aren't there? I'd respect them enough to set them free to live their life without me or find someone who loves them the way people want to be loved
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:01 AM
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Society shouldn't care, I want people to be with someone they love and who makes them happy. I don't think you're doing a person any favour by being with them unless they're the only person in the world you want to be with. You're not being a good person by sticking with someone you don't love. At least respect them enough to figure they'll figure out their life without you, I mean who do you think you are that just being with you is such a huge blessing you can't remove from them? I also think …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:00 AM
1

Having some loss of identity and some restrictions on freedom in a relationship is natural. I really have an issue with people/friends who are like that. I think if a relationship restricts your time with friends and makes you lose your identity then you have a personal problem. But sadly it does happen to many people For me, my family and friends stay important in every relationship. If a guy has an issue with it, I don't want him. For me it doesn't come naturally to lose identity or neglect ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 08:02 AM
1

Isn't that a bias towards those who actually get to the point of breaking up? The ones who actually do it are in the worst positions. What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:49 AM
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Wife. Sorry, I corrected that. I don't get your last point. You constantly refer to your friends as sexy and attractive. Clearly for whatever reason you and your wife can live with it and I don't expect you to make changes because of me, but I'm telling you that there are many of us who would never want to be with someone who thinks like this. I find it so disrespectful to your wife, and I don't see this as friendships at all when you clearly think of them as uber hot. But then some people are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:34 AM
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I know some sexy people. Some folks just gotta vibe. yeah see, to me and most people I know this is fucked up and not a friendship at all. I feel so bad for both you and her to look at other people this way, but I don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:14 AM
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I mean just grabbing while making out. I'd grab their ass or dicks, slide my hand in their pants and all that, rub my leg against their groin... Actually I had no issue with hand jobs but I just don't think I did it irrc. Normally I'd just blue ball them while making out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:12 AM
1

Every time anyone I knew broke up a long relationship she was much happier, more herself and had more fun than when they were together.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:06 AM
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Sounds like you're making excuses because you're scared of change. It's also important to learn to be alone and self-reliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:05 AM
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Is "starting a family" worth being unhappy? Yeah, I just don't see anyone's joy of life going up by having kids in an already not so great relationship. If you want kids so much be a single mom and live close to your parents. Then at least you don't have to deal with a person you don't even like. I'd also add - people might get through this financial/life maturing together, but it's really not such a big deal to then proceed on your own, what you learn still stands. When two 40 year olds meet an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:02 AM
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I was blue balling guys like crazy until I was 19. I just didn't really feel like I wanted to have sex but then I decided it was time and if I keep postponing it ill end up with a phobia so I just did it. But I touched men everywhere, seen them naked and all many times. I had wild make out sessions, dated and teased guys a lot, but sex was just a no for me Most girls I'd say have sex around 16. It's not crazy to be a virgin in early 20ies but definitely less common, otherwise normal girls who ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:52 AM
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I think there's a huge stretch from having a passing thought that some character in a show is hot and considering your friends attractive (and the way you described them - omg). Or that you'd expect your wife to find your friends hot - what the hell, who thinks like that? I believe most people would find that incredibly fucked up, I sure would. It's not the type of love I'd want to have for sure but hey to each their own
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:38 AM
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You guys are weird but hey if it works for you both then what can I say. But damn... I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:30 AM
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See for me the fact that you find them hot is enough to think most women wouldn't want to be the girlfriend in that scenario. It's super disrespectful
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:48 AM
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Yes in a situation where like two couples are friends or a man is a friend with a woman through his girlfriend and vice versa. Because then there is an added excuse I think the problem is that even if a man or a woman isn't attracted to someone of the opposite gender, on some level they usually still want to be seen as attractive. That's not to say they want anything or that they want the person to make a move, but being around someone who doesn't find them attractive will not be enjoyable eithe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:47 AM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:06 PM
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For me personally the idea of meeting someone with the goal to potentially date just kind of kills it. I can only get interested irl and then start seeing a person, I find the approach to romance like it's shopping for items is such a turn off. I also find it kind of pathetic to advertise myself to some strangers. It's just too.. commercial. I don't know. I couldn't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:09 PM
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1.)Do you think most people stop trying to impress the opposite sex after a certain age? Or they always do but how much effort they put into it just declines? It depends, some seem to try more and some stop giving a shit, but I think the latter case can be deceptive. They often didn't give that much shit when younger either, but they looked nice, so if they didn't age that great it looks like they're giving less shit but actually they're giving same amount of shits. 2.)Do you think women and men…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 07:30 AM
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Yup, I'll never be the first to take it to the next step, I'll just provide opportunity and play off his escalation. I can make a "formal" first move like kiss a guy suddenly if I already anyway know 100% sure he is super into me and it's sweet how he's shy about it, but I'd never take chances, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 07:20 AM
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Nope, I'd never make an open first move or be the one to escalate to next level. I'd just explore the situation to see if he likes me and let it take it's course - e.g. reply to his interest with mine, be friendly to create opportunities to do more together, if I have to turn down a "friendly" offer next one is mine, etc. It can be a fun slow burn but I'll never rush to that place myself, it's two people playing off each other until you're both so sure you like each other that the next step is e…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 07:19 AM
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I agree but then how can a parent today opt out of it especially for you in US when it seems like if you send a 6 year old out to play alone or to go buy some grocieries someone will call CPS. not to mention there won't be other kids playing out alone i imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:39 AM
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From everything I've read (usually people don't say this in person), it seems after having kids is more likely. Because kids cause permanent physical damage often, PPD is common, and really affect the quality of life so that some lose any sexual desire. They also make parents resent each other if the labour isn't divided equally I think the negative effect of children on women's lives is very downplayed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:35 AM
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Yeah for me a good example, even if really unpopular, is the difference between Bill Burr and Jimmy Carr. I know everyone adores Burr but I've seen his acts that were just not funny at all to me because he just said something like "so I told feminists that women should be in the kitchen and then they reacted (insert some over the top hysterical reaction)" and that's supposed to be funny? To paraphrase Jerry Seinfeld, Im not offended as a woman, I'm offended as a person with a sense of humour. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:38 PM
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I can totally understand that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 01:25 PM
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I think everyone can organically fall in love with whomever they want and humans + human bonds are much more complex to reduce to some "SMV" concept. If two people love each other it's not up to an outside observer to pick some of the most insignificant traits about who they are, like income, and decide one is above or below the other in their human value. If they love each other they're equal, because love only exists between two equals (I mean two people who see each other as equal) What I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 08:43 AM
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What a weird question but I feel like playing haha. I found this image for the guys: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0pI2oGWUAkv_FD.jpg They're all average-below average except for maybe bottom left guy and he definitely looks much better than he would if he wasn't surrounded by all the other guys. For girls I found this: https://www.tvfanatic.com/gallery/red-team-hells-kitchen-s20e1/, it's hard to tell but the first row is below average, the second row is maybe above average, the bottom row is ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 08:30 AM
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goes to great lengths to make sure that ANY woman in his circle is taken care of. Does that not irritate you? (sorry I know this is off topic)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:51 AM
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I would definitely have an issue with someone who is trying to moderate or censor my speech or jokes in any way. If someone knows me they should know the context of me saying anything, so it shouldn't be an issue making a joke or using any word in front of them. I love dark humour, however, that doesn't mean that just saying something offensive automatically makes it funny because you dared. Like it has to be a good joke, don't just say some dumb stereotypical shit and then pretend that you're s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:48 AM
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Yeah I hate that expression. Why would today anyone "have to" opt for any type of life, why should it only count as adulthood if it sucks and is filled with work and sacrifice?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:19 AM
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I think there are many women children too , and I don't earn use the term in a derogatory way. We live in a world where adulthood can look very different, we don't have to all follow the same script. Many of us have supportive parents into adulthood, schooling took longer, and many don't even feel like adults in their 20ies. Even when we do, we can decide how much responsibility and burdens we want in our life Your source shows man child as someone primarily unable to sort out their career. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:17 AM
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I think there are many women children too , and I don't earn use the term in a derogatory way. We live in a world where adulthood can look very different, we don't have to all follow the same script. Many of us have supportive parents into adulthood, schooling took longer, and many don't even feel like adults in their 20ies. Even when we do, we can decide how much responsibility and burdens we want in our life Your source shows man child as someone primarily unable to sort out their career. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:17 AM
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Do you never just take a bad pic? When exactly a moment later you could have a nice one. I'm not over defending her beauty, I don't like her look that much but I find it silly that one pic is some proof Not to mention that the same person can have perfect and bad skin days, hers just looks kind of oily and the whole expression isn't that flattering
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:11 PM
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In my circle there was always this idea that yes looks matter, but also look low maintenance because a very made up girl is kind of seen as fake and not attractive (so I guess we were more alternative). So in a way I always cared a lot about my appearance but never thought loads of make up and expensive clothes and overly made up look is the way to go, and even today when I see girls with those fake eyebrows and visible surgery to me it just looks ugly. Like, care about yourself, some make up is…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:43 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88uUfBO6_AQ I actually don't find Scarlett Johansson attractive at all at her best, but that pic is not fair game. It's not that she's so ugly or different looking without her make up, it's also kind of a shit photo and a bit of a dumb expression and it seems even some camera distortion. Everyone can take a photo where their face looks kind of shitty, every time anyone wants to say she looks bad they use this pic like some ultimate proof. If someone took photos of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:25 PM
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How did Trinity possibly seem indifferent to you??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 10:29 AM
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I think that's just hygiene but unless you have some condition spending so much on it is just silly and naive. You can order awesome Korean cosmetics online so cheaply especially when compared to like a single western brand cream you get at Boots or wherever. And they're better
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 10:13 AM
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I am personally not super attached to this topic - I wear some make up and everyone who knows me/general public also sees me without it a million times. I like how black eyeliner makes my eyes pop or I like some lipstick and of course I'll cover a blemish but I am pretty simple compared to what I read some girls do. I don't take the topic too deeply, I find the obsession with make up weird but I also find it odd that you insist on not wearing anything if you're going out on an occasion (its ok, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 10:05 AM
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That's fine, I'm just commenting that she doesn't look great
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 04:21 PM
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I don't care about her mentality/lifestyle, I just legit think she looks really ugly, very fake and plastic, not beautiful. Most guys I know hate that look. Her features are weird. I'm not saying there's not worse out there but this really doesn't look nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 03:57 PM
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Really? I find her so ugly!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 03:36 PM
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I'm a straight girl so maybe that's what clouds my judgment but I'd put it differently, to me men can look attractive without being typical/pretty but women just can't. I'm not trying to push that myth that what matters in men is personality blah blah, or that looks don't matter, don't get me wrong - but it's more likely to see a man whose features really arent pretty in any way and still see the attractiveness, an aesthetic character in him .. I think with women what is attractive is much narro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 06:14 AM
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I'd rather commit to an average person of this day and age than any time in history if I absolutely had to pick
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 06:09 AM
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From an average man, yes. Both want the same average things and neither is better or worse than the other
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 06:07 AM
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Perfectly honestly, I'm not. Which doesn't mean I'm anti either just that I am only interested in relationships and sex with someone specific. Without a person I want to be with I really don't long for a relationship or sex in an abstract way. It jusr naturally happens when I connect to someone but I don't seek it out
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 06:05 AM
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Uh maybe that's why my rule with jobs was always no sales! I can talk to different people but I wouldn't do it in normal situations. It was fascinating for me in US how talkative everyone was with strangers, took some getting used to. Many do flirt though but I guess us is one place where I'd never be sure if someone is approaching me to flirt or is just being American lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 06:02 AM
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I know some women who say this. I think what really matters is what is meant by bad and why. I'm sure this depends on the person but I'd say the point is that many women enjoy being "bad" too aka doing things considered fun, light and selfish rather than being saints who do virtuous things all the time. So is it bad to go and get drunk (I think it's stupid to call that bad but some certainly think they're being very rebellious doing it), or doing some drugs? Or maybe being socially bad, telling …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 05:58 AM
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I'm constantly in public areas talking with women But... why? What kind of public areas? Are you from US? when I was there I noticed that people are so chatty with strangers but I don't think this is very normal to do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 05:45 AM
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Unless there is some good motivation to talk to me aside from attraction, yeah I'll bet it's attraction. But socially ill play along a pretense that it's just a normal conversation unless something crosses a line
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 05:44 AM
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I wouldn't do it now but I don't regret doing it at the time because I really don't have any bad feelings towards my past boyfriends. I'm just not interested anymore, don't see a point (plus I'm seeing someone so..) I never went back to anyone though, I think when I'm done I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 05:41 AM
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That's not true because the country isn't strong because of a forced draft but people who willingly fight when attacked. Despite this rule Ukranians have shown they want to figut and defend their country. Croats did too in 1991. Compare that with Soviet Invasion od Czechoslovakia in 68 where the country basically surrendered. Throughout history we see examples of countries reacting to invasions with incredible zeal, and countries who don't. Sometimes both get crushed and sometimes both survive l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 06:21 AM
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Which burning subjects?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 06:06 AM
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I always feel I'd come across as very full of myself to assume every guy who talks to me wants more, so in order to seem like a nice person I normally respond friendly to any conversation as long as it's technically platonic. You have no idea how many guys in my life call me naive for this (I mean guys who do know me but witness such interaction with another guy), and how many times such platonic friendly convo progressed to him putting his hand on my leg in a "platonic friendly" way so that its…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 06:04 AM
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I find it really weird that people would talk to strangers unless they're flirting but it's very cultural. When I visited US I was blown away by how chatty everyone was
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:57 AM
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Life goes on, when things get bad people should end them. Also what's this shit of "giving youth" ? Like every being in existence you had a youth and lived through it one way or another, it was your youth and your life goes on from there lol its not like you magically gave it away and lost it, you lived it As for kids, it was presumably want you wanted to do with your life and they are still there, they're still yours, and your relationship with them is independent from their father
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 05:27 AM
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I'm kind of cool with it, it's sweet unless it's said in an obviously condescending tone (but I don't really experience that)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 06:51 PM
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Now what do you do? Is this for real? Most sane people would leave
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 06:49 PM
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I'm a feminist and while I feel for Ukraine and have tons of admiration for people who choose to stay and fight - or even go there to fight Russia - and there are many of them who probably until recently didn't even know they had it in them, I'm against draft. I would not want men I love to fight for their country, I'd want them to be alive. In fact, I don't think I would stay and fight for my country which I could do as a woman but I don't know for sure I don't judge anyone for not wanting to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 06:09 PM
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For me it's pretty interesting how similar me and by brother's lives are. If there's anything I had harder it's not related to gender but to the time I grew up, but aside from that I feel like everything he does I could easily do and vice versa. Even in the ways we were raised, socialized, taught - its the same thing. I'd say my elementary school was socially more dramatic and I witnessed and experienced some of that horrible female group mentality, but from high school level onwards and a diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 03:57 AM
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Apart from appearance and fashion I have no idea why any personality trait would be masculine or feminine. So zero, I value same things in men and women, I am just physically into men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:26 AM
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Exactly. All the reasons why people did it before are gone and it's a good thing. Expecting people to do the same for completely different reasons is irrational
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:01 AM
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Why are people so worried about these things? I want to live in a world with less people and higher individual quality of life and longevity. And who cares if families are not traditional anyway, I'd hate to live in a society where getting married and having kids is the only way to be
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:58 AM
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Duh, the women who want to do that want citizenship because they come from poor or shitty countries, but I'm talking from a POV of an European from a liberal country, and discussing people, not a green card and status Wanting to marry an American is not a compliment for gods sake, it's literally women trying to use you for ulterior motives.. did you seriously not know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:42 AM
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Do you think she meant it or was she trying to hurt you? Though probably both..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:30 PM
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I fully agree with you. This is why I'd never think of male buddies as "friends" on the level of my female friends and I have boundaries. Even if you're both in a relationship and the guy knows it's not practical at all to start something, doesn't mean he doesn't feel certain attraction and what would otherwise be normal becomes a type of subtle flirtation. Things involve a different type of self awareness that doesn't happen in platonic relationships because I believe, as controversial as this …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 07:03 AM
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I think the bi argument is poor. Not only are they a minority but obviously different considerations would be applied. Not everyone is comfortable dating a bi person. Just because some people don't mind their partners having these kinds of relationships as long as some clear line isn't crossed doesn't mean that the attraction dimension doesn't exist or that everyone should be fine with it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 04:49 AM
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I think where there's interest there is usually some kind of attraction at least from one side. It's just human nature. Maybe if a person is very ugly there isn't but even then... It doesn't matter if you're "not compatible", attraction doesn't care about that and you get a slow burn in someone's head. On the other hand even when there legit isn't attraction I think there is always an awareness or an assumption of the potential of it. You always know that charm in this case is always crossing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 04:47 AM
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Honestly I've never been in that situation but my point is that I don't want to be. I feel bad for every person who has to deal with trying to suppress jealousy in order to be cool and reasonable. I find guys with close female friends or many women friends shady. I know those girls would annoy me. So I won't put myself into that situation Most people in that situation don't feel very good
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 04:39 AM
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I’m single and free to “party” with my male friends every weekend but I don’t because I have better things to do. I mean it also depends on what people see as partying. I find it common for all age groups, even much older people, to go meet friends over drinks in pubs and cafes. So it'd not like getting totally hammered on tequila in a club but more like sitting over beers and talking for a long time We also often go to friends place to have drinks, watch shit moves or just talk, we can get pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 04:37 AM
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I agree, even without the added context this is not cool to do with members of the opposite sex when you're in a relationship. I'd stay away from people with those kinds of "friendships"... Lunch is ok but I also think your partner should be cool with the person
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:00 AM
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For me friends should have had any attraction, it is a name for a platonic relationship. I don't understand people who want to be friends with people they were in any way attracted to or vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:56 AM
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I don't try to insert myself anywhere. I let people come to me I always got along well with all my boyfriends' friends. But often after a while it would get into some blurry territory at best. There were some solid guys who I don't think would have crossed any lines. Sometimes we had pub friends who were mostly guys with same result- we got along really well but there'd come an awkward moment with some of them where it seems they had some feelings or ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:26 PM
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Shit, that's hardcore. I wouldn't be friends with anyone who requires this much work either .. I have a short friend who asks me to change her lightbulbs and that's about most work I'll do for anyone lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 01:16 PM
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I have yet to meet a woman capable of doing what I described above for any human other than their own children. Hey for some people, mum can be a best friend ...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 01:07 PM
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What kind of favours for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 01:04 PM
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Love isn't real. It's a face saving excuse for transactional relationships, or other crass realities. It's sad that this is your experience in life Would you still feel that way if you had several small kids? I don't want kids but yes. I'd rather be alone or with a different person who is mad about me than in some shit marriage that exists just for kids. Parents are still people with their own lives and needs. And i'd rather show my kids that you choose your circumstances and you don't have to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:38 PM
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That's how marriage works. You stick it out. That's not something I care for. I care for actual love, not commitment to commitment or marriage for ulterior reasons like children Compared to a guy who didn't divorce and would stay with you no matter what? Well he divorced someone else. I'd rather be with someone who'd divorce me if he doesn't love me than someone who will just stick in a shit marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 12:09 PM
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I don't want someone to stay with me if they don't even love me anymore just for the sake of sticking with it. If the relationship turns bad and people dont love each other then they should leave. I'd rather be left than be in a shit marriage I wouldn't have any bad stigma about the divorce, like with any break up it just matters why it happened. I respect more someone who got divorced than people who stay together and cheat or hate each other, or are simply totally disconnected and cold
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:27 AM
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Well then there are tons of suckers out there because both men and women get divorced and get into new relationships and marriages... it's pretty much standard And the idea of ride and die in any circumsrance is not loyalty, its stupidity
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:16 AM
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Not if you can abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:15 AM
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Even contraception can fail. I tend to agree that it's not fair for men to have no way out in countries where abortion is available without much obstacles. Obviously it needs to be established that the woman understood that the man wouldn't support the child when she decided to keep it, and the father should lose all rights to interfering in child's life in the future On a moral, human level I think it's a decent thing to do in such situation and not demand money from the guy On social level I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:08 AM
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People split up, things change it has nothing to do with loyalty. Most men seem perfectly fine dating divorced women. Maybe 4 divorces are weird for either gender but just being divorced today is pretty standard...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:58 AM
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Yeah I agree. It's just much more relaxed. I also agree about the rounds, it's in much better taste and warmer to take turns with rounds than to coldly split the bill
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 08:35 AM
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Oh OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 07:32 AM
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Hmm I'd assume the point here is more about dating with no romantic interest being ok (and food/drinks is just a common way to date) rather than saying food is the main objective here. People sometimes go out on dates without having too much interest for attention, it makes them feel hot, builds self esteem and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 07:27 AM
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Huh, tons of people are divorced and create new relationships after just fine. Even if divorced people only dated each other they'd still have a big selection
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 07:24 AM
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You'll still get drinks though...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 07:19 AM
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Huh 1/4??? That sounds unreal
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 07:19 AM
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I'm not saying this is some common thing women do at all but for arguments sake I'd say that women who do talk about doing it aren't so much motivated by free food and drinks (let's not forget drinks!) but also the whole rush of it. It can feed the ego to date, and stuff like buying food and drinks can be seen as something the guy does for her, which means she's very desirable, and that feels good even if she has no serious intentions with the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 07:17 AM
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There is a subset of women out there who, for whatever reason, want to make every request a game of "Why?" As in, "Why do I have to do it?" "Why can't you do it?" "Why are you making me do it?" Can you give me an example because I think it's a bit weird to request another person to fo something without giving them a reason, especially if you can do it yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 06:24 AM
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I have a godmother who is a religious catholic. To be fair her husband is a really sweet man and they always seem very happy together. He is a protestant but he accepted her catholic ways before they married and as far as I know that was the biggest relationship issue they ever faced and I heard she even left him when they were just dating because of his prothestantism lol. But back to the point... Catholics have unprotected sex and see many kids as a blessing. She had like 5-6 kids which to me …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:07 AM
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In countries where abortion is banned plan b is usually banned. It's not abortion but from their pov it is similar, because it can prevent fertilized egg from developing further/attaching to the womb.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 07:45 AM
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I know I'm being melodramatic but seriously if I was put in a corner where I can't get an illegal abortion or just travel out of the country, I think I'd go mental and really do whatever it takes. There are probably smarter ways to do it before swallowing rat poison though haha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:54 AM
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Holy shit I think people should go to prison for that. How can you do this to a person? So psycho
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:50 AM
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When I approached op's question I assumed for the sake of the argument that even going away for an abortion is impossible, and that in the society that bans abortions you probably can't get permanent sterilization either for a man or woman. It would also mean plan b is banned I would not risk sex with condoms or pills if I can't do anything in case of an accident. I really hope I never have to have an abortion because it seems very uncomfortable as well (unless it's chemical) so I'm very careful…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:49 AM
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Some women don't want children, regardless of whom it's with. Some women want children, regardless of whom it's with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:43 AM
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I wouldn't have any sex, even in a committed relationship I would just stick to oral. We can do oral a lot. But I won't risk getting pregnant. For me the fear is not about having a child with the wrong person, for me the fear is pregnancy and having a child itself, and I think it would be even worse the more it is with someone I care about. Even in this scenario I could still give the existing child to adoption so it would be preferable to have it with someone I'm not close to who won't get in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:39 AM
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Come on, it's a perfect place to promote your sex doll business - "she never has migranes"; "at least she's quiet"; "the best qualities of a woman, minus that annoying personality" ...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 07:50 PM
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maybe I'm not paying enough attention but don't advertiser's choose populated subs anyway and relevant topics? Haha I can actually think of lines of business that would benefit from that exact target audience
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 07:01 PM
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I didn't know that happened to them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:30 PM
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But won't a bunch of people leave because they are pissed that this content is banned, while people who don't really participate in it will still keep coming for other content (and won't visit those subs). There may be people who are especially bothered by it but even for them I doubt that they'd leave in any great numbers as opposed to being drawn to criticise and argue Just seems to me you lose more people by banning. But maybe I'm wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 10:43 AM
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I don't really see how it brings more profit to reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:27 AM
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I believe neither should be banned. Just because I don't like the type of people who go to those places doesn't mean their opinions are so dangerous they shouldn't be allowed to talk about them. Imo that is a weak approach. Either challenge or ignore, but people should have the right to talk about what they want with likeminded groups
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 06:59 AM
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My sexism is against women and often projected on men. In what sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 06:56 AM

submitting Wow. What a "reasonable" ask...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 06:46 AM
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I'm a sex neutral girl. I don't think everything is great just because it's sex but I dont want to restrict people from doing what they want in any legal sense. I have my judgments but on a bigger level it's live and let live. On a personal level I prefer more inhibition and don't like overly sexual people
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 05:58 AM
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My issue with Americans (clearly generalizing, I actually know some really cool ones) is that they're so absolutist. It's like they lack some light heartedness and ability to enjoy, when you hear Americans talking about anything it's so extreme and restrictive on one end or the other. And they're also so "corporate" minded about things that shouldn't be see that way at all. Like when Americans talk about their relationships, my god it's like reading about a business deal. Even something as munda…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 05:56 AM
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Ok, I personally find that amount of dedication weird and gross. I wouldn't want to do anything with guys who pay for porn or go to strip clubs even when single because I see it as very pathetic. My point with charity is that instead of supporting a business like this one, if you have money to give, spend it on something that's actually good. No one spends on these things because they're such moral people, they do it because they're desperate and clearly overly obsessed. I don't mind pirating mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 05:44 AM
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Justin Bieber and Chris Brown But who the wants to date them aside from absolute morons?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 05:41 AM
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Most non-Americans are not interested in dating Americans. For real because American men are imo weirder than American women. If American women are a but calculating and corporate in their mentality, men seem 100× worse
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 05:36 AM
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I'm from Southern Europe and where I feel a big gap is this idea that women look for a provider still in men, that women will be housewives and male income is very important. It ranges from exaggerated accusations by guys who think women are all about resources, to rationalizations from women about the practical importance of having your shit together and the overall income goals of a couple Where I'm from that mentality is considered very tacky, there are women like that but they're pretty much…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 05:35 AM
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I generally consider it gross to be fair. I don't mind spending on your dick/vaigna but supporting a sex worker like that is just a bad taste for me. Like donate to a charity or give to homeless if you're acting out of goodness of your heart, this just tells me someone takes porn way too seriously, and it is pathetic behaviour I'd feel the same about women who are paying to guys like that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 05:22 AM
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It may be a business but not the one girls should be OK with their boyfriends supporting...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:31 AM
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There are better charity causes a person can invest in, and it is certainly not the place of anyone's boyfriend or husband to support a sex worker...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:15 AM
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All of this is cheating lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:10 AM
3

World leaders are hardly a showcase of height, physical strength and vitality...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:32 PM
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Dude no one cares about this anymore outside from maybe people in ghettos or extreme blue collar circles. Most guys today have never been in a fight
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:55 PM
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Wtf if one of the tons of men who aren't strong or good at self defense gets attacked by another man, he would certainly expect the cops and the legal system to protect him. He would expect protection in public places and would not assume he needs to be able to know how to fight to go about his life Most men aren't incredibly strong or skilled in fighting. Our whole civilized society is based on protecting individuals from having their rights threatened by someone who happens to be stronger or m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:48 PM
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Hm I think there definitely are friendship butterflies when you click with someone, and friendship longing when you want to discuss and share certain things with your closest friend. I almost agree with the OP that there is a weird social factor that makes people have to prioritize their relationships over their friends so some people end up falling apart with friends once they get into a relationship. But a friendship can be just as intense in terms of emotional closeness and click
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:17 AM
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I'd be very surprised that men around J Lo wouldn't consider her extremely hot. She looks pretty much the same For Leo, I can definitely imagine that there are fans out there of all ages who still find him pretty hot, but his girlfriends might also have ulterior reasons which I don't think bothers him anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:39 AM
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But none of Hefners women is attracted to him, there isn't even an assumption of that! An old rich woman who can help hot young stupid guys make some money, live luxuriously and maybe get some exposure could do the same thing and surround herself with gigolos but I think most people would see it as pretty embarrassing and pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:35 AM
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Actually the first guy I had sex with... but the issue was I had so much anxiety about the first time that I kind of didn't want to do it with anyone I liked... if if makes sense. I was too busy posturing So as much as no one who knew me would believe me,: my first time was when I was 19 and the guy was at that point no longer attractive to me but I picked him for a reason. I was sure he'd not know anyone I'm close to, was 100% into me, and proved how far he'd go , while at the same time I knew …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 09:38 PM
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I'm going to ask a really impolite question. Was the traumatic childhood event perhaps something not everyone would see as that traumatic or feel for you in it? You don't have to say what it was of course. A less bad question is just, did you have any indication that she's like that since you've been with her for a while before?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 12:50 PM

My anecdotal evidence is similar tbh. I think it's a bit of a compensation on their end, they need to get one up on better looking people so they push this fetish thing, like "I'd be OK with doing all this, I'm so wild and not vanilla" What I find ironic is that to me missionary with either person on top is the most mutually active and passionate way to just have sex with someone who attracts you, whereas most of these kinks seem very contrived and ritualistic. But whatever to each their own. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 04:32 AM
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I can only be really close with other women because with men there is always another dimension present. That doesn't mean I don't have guy buddies or cant get along well with guys: - I do, but there is always a boundary i need to keep so they are not the same level of friendship as girls are, more like group friends, pub friends, circumstance friends...not true friends. whenever I get close to a guy I inadvertently start giving him ideas. I am very selective about my close friends. None of them …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:38 PM
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I feel like for a lot of men and women sex is very psychological and they fullfill all kinds of other needs through it, so perhaps some of it wears out the more the person they're doing it with becomes a set "character" in their life. I find it really hard to relate because for me sex is kind of just about orgasm, and in that sense I don't understand getting bored of it, or of the person (I'd say the more they do it with you the better it is), or needing to constantly add to the "excitement". Fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:58 AM
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Ok, but I'm just saying that most people don't want their partner to find many other people of their gender sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:21 AM
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I don't know about that... Most women already look good just by being slim, if we have well proportioned bodies. We don't really need muscles for aesthetic purposes. I've just personally been working out more recently but I am not doing it to lose weight, but just for physical fitness since I'm slim already - I'd say I'm amazed by how quickly I'm already getting toned and trust me I'm not very strong or naturally good at sports. Seriously, I can see my endurance/balance/strength increasing in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:14 AM
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i don't even get whats bad about not finding most men attractive. Why would you want to be with someone who finds most people of your gender attractive? Wouldn't everyone want to be with a selective person who wants them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:09 AM
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A lot of guys take it for granted that hanging out with a guy who's attractive to girls will give them the same success by association. Not only is this wrong but by keeping someone hotter next to him the guy basically negates the effect of his own looks. I noticed for example both on me and my friends that we normally always mentally allocate the most attractive spot to one guy in any group. For example if I'm watching a show with many average or awkward looking guys and one is maybe objectivel…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:47 AM
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I disagree with a lot of people here on that. I think activities really take focus away and I also think it's much harder to be in a mood to do stuff with a person you don't know so well yet. It kind of restricts you also. I'm not big on food dates either but I think simple drinks in a Cafe or pub are ideal Perfect way to just talk and focus on the conversation, drinks help both relax and make convo flow easier, and a setting is nice. If all goes well they can keep on going and both people can b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:37 AM
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I'd say stop trying to force something from the start and see dating as some job interview you need to pass or stop towards your bigger goals. Just have fun with it, don't try to instantly see how it fits your version of the future. Feel free to talk about anything, debate, have some drinks... there is so much advice to men about how to restrict yourself, and yeah maybe some women will react weirdly to your "true self" - your humor, opinions etc. But you probably won't enjoy them anyway and on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:34 AM
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I really can't speak on behalf of all women and it depends on the individual but I am motivated by compliments. If I feel I'm a potential or a hidden talent, I want to prove more and more. Criticism crushes me and makes me want to say fuck this. That doesn't mean I can't take some constructive criticism ever but really, often it's not a good thing thing for me and it should really be "constructive" then and said by someone who gets me in the first place. Fear and pain make me angry at the cause …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:30 PM
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I'm totally different. I definitely have more lust with familiarity I really wouldn't want to date someone with your mindset because that is so sad to me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:11 PM
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Honestly for me my relationship status never played any role in my appearance. I always want to look good for myself because it makes me like being in my own skin and enjoy myself which spills into everything I do. But I also agree with you, I like the feeling that my guy would see me and think "wow, you look great" in different ways. It's something that really matters to me and I could never be happy in a relationship where someone doesn't acknowledge my looks or feel top attraction. If your pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:52 AM
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One thing that genuinely shocked me in that recent thread about "realistic" relationships is how many people really see it as ok to stop lusting after each other. And I HATE the common idea I see here that women are like these realistic side that totally gets that it's normal and ok to not lust after someone you're with for a while, and men are I guess these babies for not agreeing. Dude! I would NEVER EVER want to be with someone who doesn't lust after me. If we're together for 10 years and he …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:21 AM
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A relationship is not a deal My god you americans and your corporate mentality lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:15 AM
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I find it a bit ironic that you're basically asking what women should concede to help men not concede their terms. But it's pretty simple, don't settle for less, no one is perfect but the feeling is either there or it's not. If something isn't worth it to you then don't force it just because you can't be alone. But if you're so desperate then of course you'll be conceding, no one can help you with that. You can't always get what you want from other people so you can either be ok by yourself in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:14 AM
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masturbation is usually associated with male sexuality. Everyone masturbates. Im a woman and I'll still masturbate daily on average in a great relationship but i don't need porn for that Luckily most men aren't doing that That I agree with but I feel like for many people who "defend" porn online (not so much irl) the line gets blurred, people go to such extreme to show how porn is great that you realise they're super into it. I'm just saying, I wouldn't want to be with anyone like that personall…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:08 AM
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What I don't get is why does it seem that masturbation = porn (at least on reddit, I didn't even think this before I noticed the common connotation) ? I think it's perfectly fine to get off by yourself REGULARLY whether you're single or in a relationship, often you just want to do it yourself. But I don't think that requires always watching porn, let alone actively collecting and being "into" it (as in, knowing names of porn stars, being subscribed to porn sites etc, not even mentioning people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:04 AM
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Don't they get bored?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:59 AM
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I’m not going to have kids I’m going to have a family What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:53 AM
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I don't want children :) But here is what I'd say are some reasons of women who do : They don't really think about it too much, it just happens to them and they assume it as a fact of life Social and partner pressure (this one pisses me off). Apparently no matter how much damage having a kid can do to a woman, a woman is often told she has issues or is vain and selfish for not wanting to do it They genuinely love children and feel something special and irrational but valid when thinking of havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:51 AM
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This is another reason for me. Imagine even if there is a clear reason like the one you mentioned, what would happen? The guy would hear your reason and then want to respond because maybe he thinks that if he can just explain why he used the phone, he might have a chance again. Maybe if he promised he would not do it again or convinced you he is normally not like that at all and totally agrees with you but this was an exception because whatever story. Or, he disagrees with you because in his exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:41 AM
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Yeah exactly, they'd get hurt, insult the girl back and storm of at best
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:36 AM
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Aside from what some comments already covered well, it is also a huge imposition on someone who isn't really interested in you to suddenly have to confront you with some personal feedback. I'm not comfortable telling other people what they should be like. Who says that what I like is the person you want to be in the first place? Yeah if it's something easy and obvious, especially something annoying, it could be easy to say it, but I'm not going to get stuck in some conversation about whether or …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:34 AM
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I think I was too much of a contrarian at the time it blew up that I got more kicks from not playing along, and then practically, aside from LinkedIn, I really never needed a profile and in fact got props for not having it so... it just never became my thing to get into I mean it was more of an amazement that I don't have one than I would have benefited from doing it (since I'm not the type to invest into keeping up the content), so I'm really in all these years not experiencing any negative eff…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:22 PM
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I honestly just never used it because... I'm simply not interested in what other people do with their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:16 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:55 PM
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Yeah they do...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:47 PM
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Exactly - bar or pub. I don't get how people in US don't appreciate that a bit of alcohol is always a positive Seriously I'm amazed by how much people here talk about hobbies, intriguing activities or whatnot- for gods sake just go out for a pint and chat a girl up! I don't want to talk during a yoga class. Maybe in the evening over a beer though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:46 PM
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Um you can rape someone in any type of relationship if you force sex on them.when they don't want it. Many people who got raped have no proof, because how can you prove something no one was there to witness? It doesn't mean it didn't happen. It doesn't mean it did but I wouldn't consider them being in a relationship as any assurance either
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:36 AM
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How do you know he didn't rape her? I don't know the case but I don't understand your point, are you saying that just cause they were together he couldn't rape her?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:04 AM
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Yeah but then they fuck each other up even more lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:46 PM
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Woah
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:32 PM
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It's not gendered. It's the human psychology that certain personalities get more impressed by someone who treats them badly and then occassionally graces them with a little attention than by someone who is open and loving to them just like that. It's that Groucho Marx joke “I don't want to belong to any club that would accept me as one of its members.” Some people simply value more what they have to work for obtaining, and think low enough of themselves that anyone happy to be around them must b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:30 PM
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I hate that I actually agree with this :-/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:09 PM
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Well from what I've seen, it's because people started using very "clinical" terms for commonplace, but not ideal, human behavior. On reddit I've seen people referring to walking out on someone in a fight, silent treatment etc as abuse. I've seen people refer to any type of raised voice or open frustration or anger as abuse. You slam your fist on a table and it's abuse. Then there is the idea that when two people disagree about something that happened, which is quite normal and common, one is bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:07 PM
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Why are you assuming that work has anything to do with it. Most mothers today work, and only US as a developed country still seems to have the whole stay at home mom thing going but even there most mothers work. So it's not like most women who don't want kids don't do it because they don't want to leave work when they can do both just fine. They may have many reasons to not want to spend the enormous time and energy on raising a kid, including that they simply don't want one. You don't have to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:21 AM
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People also need to note that many species get destroyed by procreating and so to think that having kids needs to imply a better future life for the woman who had them (e.g. better physical and mental health) is simply a wrong premise. Based on everything we know it seems it's more that having kids (as natural as it may be) can severely hurt a woman mentally and physically. Remaining the way you always were in return shouldn't cause any changes by default
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:13 AM
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But I think the people you're describing are too fucked up to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:07 AM
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No way. You can be fond of them but you clearly don't love them enough, which to me means it's not real love.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:05 AM
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Perfection
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:24 PM
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I don't know, you're offering good reasons and I think i could do it forever if I love a person and understand that he wants to have sex with me but simply can't. The thing with me is that I'd be fine not having sex, I can take care of myself, but I do need a consistent sexual attention and attraction in a relationship which is why I'd break up if someone stopped having sex without such a dramatic reason. But if I'm getting compliments, admiration and other type of attention that confirms that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 11:56 AM
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I mean yeah I do that. Sometimes if I'm single I like to flirt but it takes me a while to want to have sex with someone. I am not even tempted, I could be drunk and go over to the guys place and spend the night and I'm not going to have sex with him (of course I make that part clear). Luckily the guys I had experiences with were always total gentlemans about it so it never hit me that anyone would see it as doing something wrong on my part...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 11:52 AM
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Oh I definitely agree that it would be bizarre to meet a total stranger without any kind of conversation but I'd definitely prefer text over calls. Somehow a call feels weirder to me than just meeting a person. In normal life I'm not crazy about texting and people who are on their phone all the time (aside from logistics, like to whasapp if I have something funny to say or ask but not to carry out long conversations unless it's with people I already know well). But why would anyone even meet a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 11:49 AM
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a screaming uterus. Ok that would make a crazy horror movie title! Wtf though 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 11:04 AM
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How many students have any realistic idea how much they'll make? The father should better care about his daughter caring about her studies, not asking other kids weird future questions
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 11:02 AM
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Show me his shotgun. That was weird. Omg that happened to me too except I guess I was surprised by it so I was a bit interested (not in him but in the shotgun, cause it's not like I've held one before)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 11:01 AM
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How did you meet that first guy? Haha the last one I actually feel bad for. Did you go out with him again after that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 10:58 AM
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And is one of those people always on their phones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:25 AM
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I would feel very weird having a phone call with a stranger. If honestly rather just go for a cup of coffee
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:17 AM
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He looks pretty strong, more than just natural body you get by being kind of active and eating well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:07 PM
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To me looks high maintenance (as an athlete, that is) and someone who clearly does this seriously. The fact that we might not all find it that attractive is another thing. I'm more impressed by skinnier and less muscular bodies but I can recognize he works hard and sports are clearly a big part of his life. I just don't find that necessarily attractive (either the looks of it or as an interest)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:05 PM
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The guy in your post looks very obviously like an athlete, so I think a fair assumption would be that he does sports for a living or trains something regularly because he is quite big It's not the physique I like though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:39 PM
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Isn't op's thesis the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:37 PM
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Haha well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:37 PM
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Ok but we're allowed not to find his body hot. I personally find him too big
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:36 PM
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Yeah just as many men as women are sensitive, emotional, take things personally, need some sugar coating and tact etc. Many men are emotional and overreact. I've never in real life seen that men in general are more rational than women or that women are more emotional tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:19 AM
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You know what, this just reminded me of what a fried said. We're a friend group, all girls, who know each other for years. When we get together at my friends place we always talk for hours, have very passionate discussions, crack jokes etc Recently we remembered another girl who is a friend of one of us but not really a part of our group, and we told her friend while talking about her to also invite her next time. She said "she won't come. she's so timid and quiet that in groups like ours she ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:32 AM
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Right but how much of it could be that they're the ones behaving differently I also wonder, how much does the fact that they are trans and that usually people do see that play into this change
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:18 AM
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But most of the people who interruptions sometimes do it to everyone and won't mind if you do it to them. I don't even think it's always a big deal, it's one thing to interrupt to totally shut someone down and change the topic and another to just interrupt during a dynamic conversation to throw something in there If you wait for everyone to be perfectly silent and give you the podium just to speak up in a discussion it will never happen but not because you're a woman but because discussions don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:09 AM
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I honestly think today in the western world it's pretty equal and it just depends on individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:25 PM
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I also think this is either fake and they both know it or fake from her end. Even if she had that mental illness to need to have someone to take care of, he would be an odd choice. I was sceptical when I read this post but when I clicked on the link... I'd bet anything on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:15 AM
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Same here, those 3 are the only ones who could be OK but the whole exercise feels kind of pointless without images because people can have very different ideas about some of these descriptions, which are really not very good
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:12 PM
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For me love means everything. Marriage can be a legal backing of that, but it can also be something shitty. It's all about what people feel for each other and not their legal status
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:08 PM
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Erotica and porn evoke the same reaction in me - laughter. I see the comedic value in both, I can't take either seriously. I just don't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:02 PM
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The women I know who are now in their early to late 40ies are good, they look pretty youthful and the ones closest to me are all very extroverted types with tons of projects and activities going on. They do date I also know one old woman like that (80ies) who was my neighbor and she was fit and very active/engaged with things But I know some women who really were always in that "husband and kids movie" and I feel like they're the ones who like to complain or think of themselves a bit as some Bri…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:00 PM
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Huh? This has nothing to do with anything I said in my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:57 AM
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I just said this to my high school friends recently- they all look the same in their 30ies just better. No one got fat, no one's face changed but the styles got a more refined with maturity (people learn to care for themselves better and what suits them, outgrow dumb passing fads, get more confidence which shows in how you carry yourself etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:31 PM
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You can't be 8 (9, 10 whatevee) at 36? Wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:14 PM
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Guy 1 I guess but I probably won't notice either unless they approach me. I dont really like clubs and dancing, I'm a pub person. I like some live music and I like to sit and talk over drinks. I just find good convo more stimulating than dancing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:07 AM
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Guy 1 I guess but I probably won't notice either unless they approach me. I dont really like clubs and dancing, I'm a pub person. I like some live music and I like to sit and talk over drinks. I just find good convo more stimulating than dancing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:06 AM
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I know these red pill people would disagree because they like to act like women don't age well in order to make them feel bad, and on the other hand it sounds I'm being kind of victim-blamey, but I genuinely don't believe most normal men do this because their wife/gf simply aged. Yeah maybe some millionaire playboys who are anyway just using girls to show their status and never had a real connection. But what I've seen happen is more that people lose spark and start really nagging, and to some e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:16 AM
1

I never thought a person is particularly graceful for being cool and normal about being turned down for sex because the other isn't in the mood. Like, it's common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:01 AM
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But would you say no all the time going by what you're in the mood for?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:00 AM
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I don't get how anyone can want to have sex with someone who isn't in the mood in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:59 AM
2

God no! Why would you even want to have sex with someone who is just forcing themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:59 AM
1

For me even the first guy is way too much. I just don't like it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:50 AM
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If anything it's the other way around! If you're sexualized then others are focusing on you, you're not focusing on them which is the core of the betrayal to me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:45 AM
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I kind of agree with you. I can understand just quickly looking up some porn act to get off but actually focusing on other women and being into it is so bizarre to me and very disrespectful
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:44 AM
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I feel like it's much better to have other people fantasizing about you then for you to fantasize about other people when you're with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:43 AM
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To me thats on the high side. So I agree with the other comment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:42 AM
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That is what a monogamous exclusive relationship is and what most people want. I'd even say op is very laid back in her approach
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:41 AM
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If they have major flaws I have to settle with, that’s just life That's so fucked up. You can't just be alone? Why would you have to do anything is what I don't get
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:41 AM
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Are you biphobic for preferring not to date a bi person? There are many people whose lifestyles and preferences I have zero issue with and think are perfectly fine, but wouldn't want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:18 AM
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I come from a very leftist circle (to clarify to americans - pro socialist, socially liberal) and I find people in it to be relatively educated, sensible etc. But then among leftists there's a divide to old school leftists and the "American-style" woke culture which are not two compatible things. Stability is more of a temperament thing than beliefs thing, and can be found or lack on both sides. Here conservativism is often connected with ideas like nationalism but in a psychotic way that is foc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 06:00 AM
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Oh wow I kind of skipped through the comment after that first line of the paragraph, I actually missed this. Haha, now I think the guy is trolling for sure, who talks like that!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:45 AM
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I can be super attracted to two guys together (e.g. characters on a show) as an observer, but I just would feel weird being with a bi guy. Maybe it's my issue but I believe life is easier when half of population can never be anything but platonic to you. I have not participated in homoerotic acts although I did kiss a few girls as a teen for a show. Then I realised I was really just doing it for attention and it's a really cliche move so I turned it around and would get guys to make out with eac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:39 AM
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Right but he had them under false premises, which is really wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:37 AM
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I also don't understand why op and people replying are more pissed about her telling him than everything she did! Telling him was probably the only right thing she did in the whole story. So messed up, if he was someone I knew I'd tell him to leave her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:36 AM
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I settled for my wife (she’s just good enough) This makes it clear to me you don't love your wife. You're just scared of being alone. It makes me really feel bad for her
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:21 AM
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I feel like people who think like you have never loved. OP said it well when they said you love the person as a whole. Someone who settles accepts a person among many who satisfied some standard, they see them like a check list of traits and characteristics and they are good enough But if you love someone you never think of it as settlement as they're the only person you want to be with. You can still think this or that trait is annoying, you can see their individual flaws but you don't think an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:20 AM
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They look like Picasso the artist or like a Picasso's painting?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:11 AM
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I agree with this, I just don't see people youre sleeping with as "friends". I feel like people who say that are just using the word freviosuly and call anyone a friend. I really consider friendship to have to be in its nature platonic. There are people I hang around with who maybe like me (I just don't hang around people I had sex with, those are exes! I can be cool with them but I won't hang out either) and perhaps for a while it won't bother me but I won't call them my friends or hang out in …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:32 AM
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This is the core of it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:37 AM
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Do men care about Cardi B and Nicki Minaj rapping about how useless men are? From what I've seen some really do. You should see Ben Shapiro talking about Cardi B haha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 08:42 AM
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But pro sterilization activists never want to acknowledge the tale as old as time: Young people are MORE LIKELY to regret their younger self decisions. This is ignoring the fact that many people do get pregnant in early 20ies by accident and regret the mistake of keeping it... Let's not even talk about all the other life changing choices people do when young. In the end we just all have to take responsibility, make our decisions based on the facts we are dealing with and realise that regret is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:48 AM
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I don't really like rap ( I used to like old Eminem stuff) but I think in songs it really depends on the context. Not every venting against a woman is misogynistic, then there are songs where artists can play characters etc I listen to lyrics though so I am bothered by very dumb lyrics in general. The songs from singers who present themselves as some hot players are so ridiculous to me but same goes about female singers, but not even because of some ethical issues but because it sounds so dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:09 AM
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However this is a choice a woman has. She doesn't have to play along and I don't understand why so many do, I'm saying this as a woman. Of course if you want a child that part us not avoidable but you certainly don't have to sacrifice career or give it the guys last name. And there is also adoption, surrogacy (although that's probably expensive)...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:04 AM
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What I don't understand is why would doctors in these cases be under any greater risk of getting sued than let's say any plastic surgeon? How can there even be a case to sue a doctor if you sign a form that you agree to the procedure Seems like a weird excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:24 AM
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The law can't protect you from the fact that people lie unless you're making legal contracts or someone is directly endangering your life that way. You know that people lie. You have to be careful. On the other hand if you like someone you just met and you want to have sex with that person, I doubt it's really because of one specific lie he or she made... then just accept it that you can have a good night and good attraction but you really don't know if their personal stories are bullshit or not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:09 AM
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Well laws aren't policing it now because it's really too messy. You can't demand people to always share everything accurately about their personal lives or evaluate to what extent it influenced another person's decisions. It's clear when the lie directly endangers someone's life or cheats them of money. But you're talking purely about social and sexual/romantic interactions and this is so vague. Almost everyone lies to some extent socially, if simply to avoid getting into private details or to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:54 AM
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I'm not saying there aren't some women who care about femininity but for many of us it's just some outdated behaviour code that was imposed on women rather than any intrinsic identity. At best we care about looking good and feminity on the level of fashion. But I'd say most women who weren't brought up in traditional and oppressive environments and who have self respect not only don't care about femininity but actively despise it. To me feminity always looked like telling a person that their "tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:17 AM
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In all fairness I don't think law should be involved into shit people say to each other about themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:14 PM
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I think there probably isn't someone there for everyone because, let's be real, even if you put two shitty people together they won't be into each other. But isn't it better to be alone than with someone who requires so much effort and constant pretense? I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:12 PM
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I think literally every advice in a form of a one liner can be nitpicked either to break it apart or to give it depth and defend it. However, here it's all about how you see relationships. If you see them as some goal you absolutely need to obtain then you get into this thing people here do, which is faking something. If you only care about being with someone who loves you the way you are, and are fine being alone, then you have nothing to worry about. The reality is that some people are effortl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:10 PM
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I mean you can lose the same without marriage if you're talking about family or things you built together - one way or another it will have to be split. I understand that a very rich person risks a lot in a marriage with someone who isn't as rich and I totally understand why those people would get prenups or avoid marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:00 PM
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Why would they take any name, they have their own. You're getting married, not changing your identity (and why should one person do it anyway)?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:57 PM
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Sorry I misunderstood you! Right, fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:20 PM
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I guess you know a lot of weak women...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:19 PM
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Yes, pretty much every man I know. My mum has her last name, none of my boyfriends care, my brother doesn't care/d if once his marries his wife has his last name, male friends and guys I talk to say the same... pretty much most guys I know agree it's weird and unfair. I know a lot of married people with their own names
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 01:45 PM
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No, I think from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. People have ups and downs with jobs and salaries I really don't believe a relationship should be a financial transaction. But I also think people should keep separate accounts... So let's say I make more than a guy Im with, I trust him, we can split some stuff, I can contribute more to big stuff, but he can't just go to my account and use my savings etc. I also don't think people need to do more chores if they work t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 12:03 PM
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Not pushing marriage, but why would you have to change your name just cause you got married? It's a sexist outdated tradition, and just because a lot of women still do it doesn't mean you have to, more and more also don't. I'd personally avoid any guy who even thinks that way
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:51 AM
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Hm, I'm not into marriage but I would find it weird that someone would be so insisting that we never get married, because that means something is lacking between us. My attitude is that I don't need marriage because it doesn't make a difference to me emotionally, but let's say I'm with someone I love and trust for a longer time and suddenly we have a practical reason to marry - maybe I'm going to work abroad and I can only take a legal spouse, or he gets sick and wants me to make sure his health…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:49 AM
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It ignores the impact of academia and the mainstream media on shaming men into a corner while gleefully deconstructing masculinity. I personally see this the same way I see women being told how to behave, it's something individuals should rightfully be annoyed by and discredit. But there is a big exception Since me too movement there was a really big acknowledgement about sexual harassment that a lot of women used to play along with out of discomfort to speak up and seem difficult. Even many wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 07:07 AM
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No one loves out of duty. They either love or don't. It's not a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:35 PM
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None. Both sexes have a duty not to comit crimes against each other obviously. They have a duty not to do harm. But they don't have the duty to do or give anything. Which is common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:35 PM
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Well yeah I think there are some small behaviours and responses that a person can easily rationalize as not a big deal, but someone who was in an abusive relationship can see in a bigger context and recognize the personality behind it. Or out of precaution avoid any similar traits, e.g. maybe they no longer want to be with anyone remotely controlling, jealous or outwardly angry etc while someone else can easily get over one or two overreactions because they never experienced them in a pathologic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:15 PM
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It's a two way street, it's about connection! You can passionately agree or passionately debate and disagree and sometimes be amazed by each others thoughts, but a good conversation is for me the most exciting interaction two people can have. You see it, the excitement of the other person, the dynamics, eagerness to share thoughts and hear thoughts of the other, humour clicking... it's a beautiful thing. It can be so inspiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:52 PM
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someone who could discuss different things But isn't that exciting?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:09 PM
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For me exciting is very intellectual, it means good and energized conversations. We can sit over beers in a pub I don't need to go ziplining. But the conversation has to be stimulating and passionate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:13 PM
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I'd say no guy ever really hurt me But overall I'd say no, they're just more intune to signs that define the personality type that maybe they were oblivious to before
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:12 PM
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Even though my country isn't very rich, most people end up owning their own apartments they get from parents/grandparents or directly inherit. I assume even in US at one point you will inherit some place to live from some family member, or some land will get sold and your parents can divert it to an apartment for you As for lifestyle, there are senior activities people do. For example when my grandpa died, my grandma joined senior aerobics and ended up with like 2 suitors and a really cool boyfr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 10:48 AM
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So I'm a pretty liberal woman and I really don't overly judge other people for what they do sexually, but even I find the way some people talk about sex a bit off putting - maybe I am a prude inside. What I mean is, while I agree that human sexuality is not something shameful and that couples should be able to talk openly, and some "odd" thoughts and feelings are normal, I think some people push it to the point where they lose tact. They get so far into the healthy aspect of sexuality that they …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 07:12 AM
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I dont want children so no. If I wanted kids then I would, provided I get along well with the kid, because I'd get a kid without having to go through the physical nightmare of pregnancy or the paperwork and stress of adoption (which is still better than the former).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:53 AM
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Why though? I don't understand this line of thinking. Living like that seems just awful to me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:29 PM
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The thing is, no one needs a "pragmatic" relationship void of romance. People are perfectly fine being by their own. We dont need to bring families together to establish peace or produce children to take over the farm or whatever. If we get in relationships it has to be because we feel love, we feel better together than we do alone, and most people today/in Western society feel fine alone. So I dont know what is your definition of a fairy tale but yes, it takes a special person and a special lev…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:05 PM
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That sounds so weird, why would you want to be with someone you consider average?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:00 PM
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I'm a woman who doesn't really care about marriage so I can just say I understand them. In many cases it's really not needed. I think in a practical sense it's usefulness depends on case by case basis and I reckon there are many similar issues when people split after a long relationship that happen after the divorce too. But I just don't see it as something that means anything more than that, it's just two people being together, what is the difference I also feel like the only thing that should …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:55 PM
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I am. I grew up watching law & order SVU with my parents.. and I'm still a sucker for all crime stories. However I am not exceptionally paranoid or fearful in my personal life I just like playing crime psychologist or solving puzzles (also loved Agatha Christie's books as a child and I'm always up for a good British crime series) Edit: just realized this is fictional crime and true crime means real cases. But I also have interest in that of course From the top of my head it's hard to name any pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 06:55 AM
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I mean the person deciding has all the control, the person who put themselves on the line at anothers mercy is not... I don't get how you're spinning this (but either way I don't see this as a matter of dominance either way as no one is ruling one bit over the other, still the one asking is the one who wants something the other can give, the one accepting or declining is in the higher position quite clearly)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:33 PM
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I think dominance has nothing to do with it but I definitely see the person who doesn't bother at all while the other is going out of his way to get her to like him as a more dominant, yeah...which is the actual advice. Who cares less is clearly more in charge..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 12:29 PM
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We're told that we should be submissive and follow the lead of men Are we though? I know about the advice that men should make the first move but it doesn't at all go with being submissive. Quite the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 10:18 AM
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I feel that's a similar thing to what happens to guys who base their view of reality on stuff people say online. A girl who keeps reading about how men would practically fall down on their knees and worship any woman who is original enough to ask them out will probably feel incredibly disappointed when the reaction is "no thanks".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 10:17 AM
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I often feel like people here see that as expectable reality. Truly even if I look back at my mum's generation I don't know any housewives, save for women or men who are mentally ill and have problems holding jobs. Even in my grandma's generation it was not exactly a standard. But my gen or younger... that's just an odd lifestyle choice. I do understand that in US some things are harder which pushes people in that direction but I still think it's not a good solution
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:33 AM
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That aside, what difference does it make? It's like these guys discovered that women have eyesight at the age of 20+ and that traumatized them so much they went into really weird ideas of entire female psychology while feeling they spent their lives in a matrix.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:05 AM
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What difference does it make if those are their beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:33 AM
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I just think it's ridiculous you have to be a part of a whole belief system to understand concepts like it's good to better yourself in some way, try to lead a healthy life, take care of your appearance... You'd expect a functional adult human to be able to do it in their own way without needing a culty online support and in depth pseudo evolutionary psychology analysis of every stupid interaction in their life and how it relates to that .. it's just weird as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:33 AM
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Jake Gyllenhaal Oh my god how did I leave him out of my list. Yeah!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:12 AM
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Matt Bomer. He's cute, I just watched him in Saint. Really annoying character, but cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:12 AM
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i been reading some of the stuff and it sounds like we life in completely different planets. Same, sometimes I don't know if people here are older or if Americans are just weird but I feel like many are describing some imaginary dynamics from like 50ies US? I don't even know adult women who are housewives!! And that word, "provider", my god... And then the other part of it I think comes from online dating which is I guess where they see people put in specs about what they want in a partner which…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:02 AM
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I kind of cant stand the whole "head of household" concept no matter in whose favour it goes. We're not a one unified creature, we are two free individuals living together. I care about fairness and consideration but I could also not live with some system where each of us has to do the certain amount of chores like an obligation. I mean, if you need a plate then wash it, dont expect the other person to do anything and dont to things as a martyr. I'd rather be with someone who doesnt care about s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:32 PM
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Same. But Im pretty sure most guys dislike high maintenance or overly feminine look in my experience. Hot, but effortless is what works. Most guys dont really care or like girly clothes and accessories either
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:38 PM
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I cant do that and dont think I need any specific person to protect me because I live in a relatively safe society. In a crisis I'd call cops, not think of my boyfriend as a bodyguard. Sure, crime happens and shit happens but so does cancer and car accidents to much greater extent, I dont really live my life actively thinking about all the ways I can die or be harmed I simply see no need to be able to lift heavy things or beat people up in the world we live in. I feel the same for men, it's a po…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:34 PM
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Hm, while obviously most people still do have kids, I agree with OP. What makes a good parent changed today. Before it just meant being able to reproduce (well maybe not the "good" part, but it sort of didnt matter.) People had kids because it was hard to avoid it and for practical benefits (working on fields or elsewhere, helping at home, taking care of them when old, sending them to army...) while good parents and parental love always existed, there was virtually no social pressure on people. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:34 AM
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Why did you keep on dating him? What did he look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:50 PM

I think it can Fyi I'm not an american
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:49 PM

Clearly this is a friend you knew well and you could tell whether his actions were pointless or even destructive or just benign enjoyment of life. There are cliches in all directions - a party person who needs to find meaning with a family. A mom/dad who finds meaning in their hobby or escape from family construct. A business person who ends up quitting for family or travel. A traveler who settles into a steady job and life... What makes meaningful experiences? I guess what you do with them, wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:37 PM

How exactly is the guy you're describing morally bankrupt? Because he's single, sexually active, and has a lot of money he spends on traveling? I also think its excessive money to spend on traveling since you can do a lot for much cheaper, but it's not really a morality issue and it seems he can afford it (still dumb but...). At best I'd give him a lesson over how to achieve the same or better and save money, it's so pointless to want to travel to a new country just to be in a pricey hotel, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:08 AM
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I feel like when men (especially the ones on reddit..) think of insecurities, they think of someone who is frail and shy, who needs them, who won't go out to other people for attention, and to an also insecure guy that sounds ideal. He thinks she will be appreciative of his attention, try hard to keep it, and all will be good for him.... but this is just a fantasy I think the side of insecurity women experience more often in reality is much more tyrannical. It's being with someone who is always …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:03 AM
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This is why I always say a lot of women just aren't lovable. If you go in with a list of expectations you aren't actually looking for a human to connect with, you want an employee you can basically fire At Will if labor isn't kept up. I think this is one of the things where I have the biggest disconnect to people on this sub, men and women. Sometimes it seems like people online never really experienced the simple concept of love. No one falls in love based on some bullet points on a list. What m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:32 AM
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Christian Grey does all kinds of antisocial sh*t, he stalks her like crazy, Is that what red pill tells guys to do when they like a girl, stalk her like crazy? Show her how much they need her? and in the end they break up because she can't tolerate the pain level he wants to take it to. I might be wrong because I only read some parts of the book (with the summary of the whole story included, someone just kind of did a recap and highlighted the funniest lines, which seemed to still be pretty much…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 07:22 AM
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Although I hate those stories/characters and know countless of other character types women I know love in fiction, sure, these books have their large audience, no denying. However how "red pill" is that? From all I know about the book, Christian Grey is supposed to be a super attractive millionaire who is acting literally obsessed with this average female protagonist. Yes there's some weird bdsm stuff, but to me he is almost the opposite of everything I know about red pill: he is a naturally att…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:59 AM
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But people/women also whine about relationships...I think the idea is that people usually are more expressive when they have something to complain about, or at least it makes for more interesting (and visible) content Another thing is, I think everyone's ego needs to feel wanted and liked, so people who can't have anyone attracted to them are clearly miserable. On the other hand it doesn't mean that those same people are happier in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:38 AM
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I have a friend like that, but I feel the pros are that she has time to do what she wants and controls her own life, whereas I notice that as soon as people get into serious relationships they get more restrained and compromise so much (men and women) Realistically, I would say that her life is more enjoyable than the one of a married friend with kids, because she simply has more time and freedom to do whatever she wants whenever she wants. If I had to choose with nothing in between I'd pick her…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:34 AM
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But also people need to keep in mind that the people in those countries actually benefit from having kids, their thought process isn't "can I afford and give this child all the effort, time, resources etc" but it's expected that the child contributes to the household in many ways - older siblings raise younger ones, do chores, often work, are expected to support their family as they grow up.... It's not like people in poor countries are just more selfless than us individualistic westerners, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:28 AM
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But why do you think they should do something they don't actually want?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:25 AM
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What's wrong with it though? A person today really doesn't need a relationship, so unless it's the specific relationship they want, it is certainly better to be alone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:24 AM
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Jeans are always good and grey is a nice colour.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 05:03 AM
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Honestly I PREFER men that don't care about fashion. I am super turned off by fashionably dressed men who care. That aside most men I know are like this - they don't care about fashion but they have clear preferences, it's just that these are so simple it looks like they dont care. E.g. a guy who loves his normal green all stars so much he will wear them as they fall apart - looks like someone who doesnt care but its coming from the place of care. Or my brother who will only wear monochrome dark…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:51 AM
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No, great guys but when I dont want to be with them anymore I dont get the point in maintaining a relationship. I just dont think romantic/attraction dimension and friendship dimension are compatible even if they dont happen in parallel. If we had that, then to me we cant be just friends later. And I simply dont care much about what goes on in other people's lives unless it has some relevance to me I dont know, I have a life and more engaging stuff to do than keep tabs on what another person im …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 09:52 AM
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Idk I think I really have zero interest in their lives once I'm done. Its not like I have any reason to even know if they're with someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:10 PM
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What is WLW? No I'm straight but I think I just never saw a reason to be friends with exes even when we stayed nice to each other. Just dont see a point, I have enough friends and it feels a bit wrong to go out one on one with someone who might still have some feelings when I'm seeing someone else. I just think it complicates things I dont mix romance and friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:08 PM
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Do we? I don't. I think this entirely depends on the type of person and context of the relationship and break up, whether they're male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:51 AM
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It depends. I can definitely feel for depressed people, but I don't think I could be with one because I think it would end up making me depressed. It's not his fault but I know myself, and I know I'd take his feelings personally and it would end up frustrating me and depressing me. Regarding anything that causes big changes in behaviour and even potentially threatening behaviour like PTSP or bipolar disorder, I don't really want to experience that in my life. Some other things like anxiety or OC…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 06:39 AM
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It's not like we will see a guy in a bar and think about making friends though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 06:32 AM
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Similar here, but overall it would be a negative-neutral factor, not positive. I don't want to be with someone who's dealing with competition, it would do more for me if from the moment I walked in he had eyes only for me but at the same time, wasn't pushy or a creep about it. I have no interest in flirty men. I do have to say though that when without any effort from my end, a man who is being chased by other women makes a blatant point that he is only interested in me, making them jealous, it d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 06:29 AM
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I'd so like to try Kyle's vineyard
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:09 PM
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To stay true to my username, I think that Special Agent Dale Cooper is in every way the most perfect human being. He is special, full of joy for life, makes people around him feel special, has childlike enthusiasm about even small things, is super intelligent and perceptive and drop dead gorgeous. Not only is he the character I'm attracted to but also a role model about what type of person I want to be like (especially those parts about joy for life, appreciation for good things, ability to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:40 PM
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Nobody in any circumstances should get anything more than what they brought into marriage if a divorce occurs. I agree with that for the most part. I also think it's insanely disproportionate, even when people point out how much a stay at home parent works. For example, let's say you have a poor family and a stay at home parent who really has to do a good deal of work, the manual work and chores they do is probably similar to complexity of the job their partner has and they deal with kids and al…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:25 AM
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I think the biggest difference is that attractive men are very rare so they really stand out, whereas attractive women are not that rare and really above a certain level of attractiveness you don't get much of a difference between a very good looking girl and a perfect model in terms of how much their looks are appreciated by men. But a very attractive man is quite rare and probably always stands out in most environments I don't know if it brings out any dislike and competition from other men, r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:53 AM
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But I don't think this has anything to do with gender roles, some people want to be chased after and take the most that they can out of others. As long as they find other people who will agree to it, they will act in a way that benefits them. It's like a very hot guy who dates women who buy him meals and fight over him (gigolo) - no one is twisting this narrative to say that he wants to play a gender role that carries all kinds of other meanings with it. They just say he's a user. So is the woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 09:04 AM
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I honestly don't like either scenario. The money you earned is yours. You can have some joint budget to contribute to life but no one should have a hold of your money,especially because they chose not to work and you had to support them for a bit. I'm all for separate finances anyway. However, I feel horrible for women from traditional backgrounds who basically were made to be housewives by some controlling husbands or society, and in those cases I definitely think they need alimony because how …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 08:55 AM
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I think people care more about what's in the head of the person they're with and not whether or not cheating is viable. E.g. it doesnt matter if the other person wouldn't do it, you dont want your partner to want to do it, or even think of the person in a way that involves attraction even if they wouldn't act on it. It's not just that people think they'd literally be cheated on but also they dont want even moments of attraction and fleeting thoughts like that because it's still different than a …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 08:48 AM
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I think a lot of people simply dont even get their jealousy tested like that. I always thought I was a pretty cool headed person but realistically I was never with a guy who was as close to a female friend as he was with male best friends so I never had to think about it. Same with me, i have many guy buddies but my close friends are women - a guy who dates me would hang out with these guy buddies but my one on ones are with the girls. So I think a person can think of themselves as perfectly nor…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 08:10 AM
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I think that realistically despite many exceptions, most people have the closest circle of friends of their same gender. And although it's in theory frowned upon it's also very common that a lot of guys and girls get jealous if their bf/gf is too close with someone of the opposite sex (unless the person is totally unattractive). As much as that mentality is getting more criticized it is also perfectly common and gets a lot of understanding irl. So I think with bi people, the issue is that there …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 07:47 AM
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I assume by the rules of this question he'd feel that way forever
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:59 AM
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Of course I'd say neither but having to choose, I'd go for thinking my looks are amazing. I dont really care what he thinks about my personality but my ego needs to be his top in looks. Plus it's about attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:59 AM
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My issue with framing it as being about choosing is that it's simply wrong - a choice to depend on someone is not merely a personal choice about what you do for yourself. It involves an enabler
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:56 AM
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I think most women /feminist women want an equal partner who is a friend and someone they can relate to rather than a roles division. I dont want kids personally but if I did, I would never want to be a stay at home mom..not sure if I'd understand stay at home dads either. I'd rather have grandparents involved and have us both working for practical and mental health reasons. I don't think it's good to live like that I also wouldn't want to be liable for some alimony or splitting my money after d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:53 AM
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Both are a no from me because both have some fatal flaws. The A guy makes me more indifferent and the B guy has more pluses and worse minuses, plus also. Person B would be more annoying although I'd have intellectually much more in common with him. Person A would probably be likable and fun to hang out with. Wouldnt date either but could casually hang out with them without sex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:50 PM
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You can donate to charity or spend on things you care about while alive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:16 AM
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Same here, dont care what you beleive, and not convinced at all. I have my experience, you have yours. Glad we live in different worlds
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 06:05 PM
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Yeah I know myself and girls I'm friends with, and no one sane is into that type of shit. I really think guys online push an agenda because I have no idea where all those people are. No, I dont believe anonymous guys online. Guys I know also dont practice that or try that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:53 PM
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I cant imagine many normal women being like what you're describing. I dont know a single friend who is like that and to me that's gross. So I assume it's a circle of prople or a trend where you are... I only see people acting like this is commonplace on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:42 PM
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I support people who do this differently or get prenups. I think the person deserves their own money and not everything is mutual. I think each person should have their own property as well as whatever is shared. I like the idea of people contributing to mutual budget or one person buying something and the other something else, but I also think each individual should have their own money, their personal possessions and savings.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:53 PM
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I'm not an american but I'd say the same thing just substituting work with free time and enjoyment of life. Pregnancy is horrifying. However women in America definitely seem to have the most disadvantages when having kids. Here you get a very generous paid leave time, father can take a leave, grandparents are usually involved and helpful, daycare is subsidised, education on all levels is free and merit based so you dont need to have tons of money to have kids, and generally parents arent seen as…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 09:27 AM
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I can't help but to think so because even for my generation that sounds so bizarre. I dont even have female friends who'd be into anything like this. I just see people suddenly talking about it a lot online for the last few years
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:27 AM
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I think he also just wasnt that into the girl he was seeing The other thing is, he is trying to force himself to want what he doesnt really need right now so he turned dating into a chore. Of course he'd rather stay at home. It's totally fine that he's good by himself, that's not an issue to overcome. If he causally met someone he really likes one day, he'd be motivated. If not- he's ok But he has some mental issues he mentioned here so I guess instead of being normal about this, he tries to pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:01 AM
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No one is a mind reader. This is common sense based on the contexts this pops up in
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 07:01 PM
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The guys who need to degrade or dominate a women to get off are really sick. It makes sense then that it's usually a certain type of men that has this complex, but women should avoid that like plague
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 10:19 AM
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People still approach each other all the time irl. But there has been more awareness about where, when and how to do it to not make the girl uncomfortable. For example, although approaching a stranger is a long shot either why, if you approached her when leaving and just told her you know it might sound weird but that you'd really like a cup of coffee with her sometime, if she's open to it here's your number (write it on a napkin or something) - and leave , would be a much better thing that to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 10:02 AM
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In my experience women are perfectly open and.vocal about the fact that both is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:44 AM
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Even though this question is more a male caricature of successful women and not really what women say, what it means for girls who do say something like this isnt that men should be drawn to their success but more like "how am I so good at everything but suck at love/relationships" (in my opinion there is some self depreciating irony there, not so much "men dont want me" but "my choice in men sucks, and I'm supposed to be smart/good at reading people otherwise")
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:43 AM
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In fact I would not like to be with men who are attracted to my money or status. I'd like to be with men who'd love me just the same if I lose my job and am going through a bad phase in life. But, for my self of course I want to be accomplished, successful and make the money I need for my current and future needs because... who doesnt want this for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:39 AM
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I think people here would see this as unimaginable but from everything I saw in my life, men sometimes simply fall in love with a woman who happens to be a single mother (or vice versa) and give it a shot, and maybe even though it's not something they planned end up loving the kid and loving/accepting that side of her. They just like her as the individual she is, their mental process isnt "I'm settling for a single mum cause I'm this level on sexual market" but rather "im in love with this woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:52 AM
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My wife is not a model That's really cold... do you not find your wife attractive? And if so, why would you be surprised others do too?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:14 PM
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Kind of but I think this is the issue with guys - you have "regular" guys who just arent into their own looks at all, as in they don't think about what they look like or that it matters. Some of them can be pretty naturally attractive but they would always call themselves average because they don't care or do anything about looks. They underestimate themselves I guess because they're unaware of where their attractiveness comes from The other group are guys who care about their looks and they rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 09:19 AM
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What do you mean unpack? I'm not suggesting anything extreme still just talking about looking, not touching (getting involved) lol. I just mean, i never had an issue showing a bit of a crush to an older man but I wouldn't exactly be silly with guys my age since .. it's not becoming? Haha. They need to come to me. I'm not giving universal advice, its just how I am
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:17 PM
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If I'm alone I barely notice but when I do then I just check him out as a whole I guess. When I'm with my friends I definitely like to comment. That's in situations where I dont want anything more than just watching haha I always feel more comfortable making it it obvious with older guys, but I am completely keeping it hidden with guys my age because I guess I don't want them to get arrogant
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 04:23 PM
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To be fair I never consciously wanted a relationship, they always just happened to me. I definitely went long periods without liking anyone but maybe maintaining some flirtation or gauging who likes me without wanting it to go anywhere concrete. Actually I find it very hard to fall in love, so I very rarely really crush on someone, but in a more lighthearted way I guess most of the time I have a little flirtation going with many, when I'm totally emotionally uncommitted to anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 08:09 AM
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It never happened to me, but I wouldn't deal with that, I would lose all interest in that person and relationship. I need to be the one they like the most from the start, it's just how I am, so I wouldn't judge anyone who feels the same way, in fact it makes sense. People need to be loved the way they want to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 08:05 AM
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he calls her 'semen incubator'. Oh my god I missed that, how gross! That kid is going to be such a fucked up person, he'd be better off without that dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 08:27 AM
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I don't really agree with this view that kids should never be made to share anything and their boundaries come above all. A lot of people put emphasis on these values that you don't owe anyone anything, but I don't like that at all, I think sharing in the household and being good to your siblings are important values. I am not sure how reasonable this mother is in enforcing this correctly though, not much to work from here. I think it's fair to own something, but if its as big as a console in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 08:23 AM
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None that I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:20 PM
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To be the best father, men have to be fucking miserable too I so much disagree with the idea that either of the parents should be miserable to be a good parent. Unless your child is a sociopath they actually want you to be happy. And since they will be modelling a lot of themselves based on their parents, there's no better rolemodel than a happy and fulfilled person with varied interests and aspects of their life aside from just being a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:19 PM
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I completely disagree. I am very happy that I grew up with a mother who had (and has) a life, interests, career, friends and is a real person to me, not some martyr. I remember I was talking to my aunt about how as a kid sometimes I'd sleep over at her place or at grandmas and was always happy about it if my mum had to travel, and she said something that stuck with me, how I was raised to be happy that my mum is happy and not think about it from the pov of losing attention. And if I was raised t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:12 PM
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Ugly AND annoying based on the description. So you have a not very attractive guy, but instead of at least being chill or interesting to talk to because of some other factors, his focus is going to the gym and obsessively trying to cultivate a fake personality. You get the worst of both worlds - someone who is obsessed with his own looks (boring quality) but isn't even good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 05:46 AM
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I find Michael forced, annoying and boring. I don't see his hard work as anything positive, he is just super focused on things that I find boring. I don't see it as a positive to spend tremendous amount of time working out, "cultivating a personality" (instead of just having one) etc. Nothing about Brad makes me like or dislike him since you're only talking about things I am not that interested in, but Michael just seems like a huge pain And this is ignoring the fact that Michael still looks bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 05:41 AM
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I think the obvious difference is that porn is other people and toys are just a physical stimulant no one feels attracted to. Maybe if women found their vibrators attractive that would be one thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:47 AM
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I think its really weird that someone just gives you a list of what they want or even the angle where it's done through a mature conversation. Its bizarre. Things need to happen naturally and develop. It's like reading the first page of the book and then making expectations of how the story should flow. How can you in advance commit to all these things, it's ridiculous? And totally impersonal like who you are individually has nothing to do with it and wont affect him, this is just a clear job ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 08:34 AM
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Once I read a book where the main character was thinking about how most people bond over shared flaws, and I realized there is a lot of truth there. I guess it can validate or explain something in ourselves, give us a type of release and a sense of revolt, like "good, you get me, let's own it" But that's more personality flaws.. physically, I guess sometimes a unique trait can make someone more personable and be an endearing quality but it's probably more unorthodox than ugly..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 08:12 AM
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That is so messed up.evoking group solidarity on the basis of skin colour to put the responsibility of their reputations on women telling the truth, rather than on themselves acting right. And if there is a collective responsibility for individuals, what about women's responsibility to other women to report sexual abusers? Even if there is a real issue of false accusations of black men (I guess then it would be by white women?) I dont see why the real issue of real assault of black women would h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 08:05 AM
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I think it's really important. So many women as individuals felt they can't do much aside from ruin their careers or come across as difficult, annoying, unable to take a joke or handle themselves if they complain about some behaviours (whether professionally or socially). That they just need to toughen up. To be honest, when it all started I was even critical and skeptical about some stuff, sort of "hey I can handle these situations, complaining is weak." I heard that similar train of thought in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 08:29 AM
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Is it not a good thing? People who were untouchable are being taken down and the standards of what is acceptable are changing. It made people really think about how they are acting to others or what kind of environment they are tolerating. It's actually pretty amazing to think how many people went along with Weinstein knowing what he did because he was too powerful to take down, how many men and women were complicit. And that was just one example. I know people got backlash for much less clear a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 08:08 AM
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True, it really depends. I had this weird situation with a guy. He was not very emotionally close to his family at all but they quite liked me and he always wanted me with him when he had to be around them On the other hand I get along very well with my family and while they like him, we just have our own dynamic and I'm not very needy of having him there for most hang outs, maybe just some occasions. I'm buddies with my family members so it's a bit of "worlds colliding", I like my own time in b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 08:29 PM
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Really not my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 05:22 PM
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Yup exactly... plus men are really different between themselves just how women are. I can divide people into social types but not based on gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 05:20 PM
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For sure, some people wear their looks with style and make a weird feature seem interesting or even attractive. I am sure that usually they are better looking than they seem in ways harder to describe for an average person, like the overall proportions etc. I also find that looks are more than just attractive vs unattractive. Certain features suggest some traits, like some people look kind, or intelligent, or funny.. and some look mean or dumb. I think people who arent classically beautiful whos…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 05:14 PM
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Sure. I don't really feel like I'd be compromising to do it though if it interests me or if I'm "sure why not" about it. But if it's something I actively dislike or suck at then i just wouldn't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 09:04 AM
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The only compromise I've had to make with my partner is who's family we do holidays at. Honestly, I would rather do holidays apart if we live together anyway and make sure I'm with my family, I don't really need us to be together all day and I think our families anyway care most about seeing their own child. No way am I not being with my family on days like that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 08:16 AM
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I would compromise on hobbies, I like discovering new things so I would be fine with going to try hobbies they would enjoy but I've never done. Am I weird for not being keen on doing hobbies with someone I'm with? I like to do my own thing, I am not really into the idea that we share hobbies. Unless people count any activity as a hobby, including watching a show and other entertainment or going out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 08:13 AM
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I am an atheist and my partner 100% needs to be one as well. I have had relationships with religious/spiritual people in the past and it has gone very, very badly. I'm just curious, how do you feel about those many people who believe in some god but don't follow any religion, or people who go to Church on like Christmas Eve and call themselves Christian but believe in reincarnation and "energy", and have none of it play any role in their actual lifestyle? Cause I find most people are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 08:11 AM
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In my language we have two terms that mean lady(like "lady" and "mademoiselle"), actually even 3 since one has two popular variations without any difference in meaning. These are often used with a bit of humour or sarcasm but also as a form of politeness. Maybe English uses the term "ladies" a little more often but I think we use it pretty regularly as well. The terms for sir and madam are used commonly if speaking to an older person or someone who is an adult whose name you don't know. We also …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:43 AM
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Losing someone you love in your life vs simply not finding the romantic partner is a completely different thing. It's like saying "no one needs a sibling" or "no one needs an aunt" because a person literally doesn't need one, but telling a person who has one they love that they'll be losing them will obviously mess them up since there's now an actual individual there to miss. A good relationship means you have a very important person in your life you're attached to, it's not "the relationship" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:34 AM
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I would not compromise the life I want for myself as an individual or who I am. E.g. I definitely wouldn't have kids for my partner, I wouldn't live somewhere I don't want to, I wouldn't give up on a great opportunity, and I'd NEVER sacrifice my family or friends (like spend less time with them, have someone interfere with my relationship with them) ... I also wouldn't change myself as a person, if someone has a problem with how I do things then they should be with me. On the other hand I'm pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:03 AM
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What do you mean, for me as a person, or for women in general? But what I would say for ANYONE is that standards only matter when you're trying to have a general discussion and it's a very rough outline that in no way says anything about how you will feel for the person who meets them. In the end you deal with an individual. I don't believe anyone should lower their standard in the sense of being with someone they feel they are settling for. That makes no sense to me. Why, what will happen to yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:18 AM

Does this really happen? I am not a great extrovert or anything, but I have people I am close to which involve my friends and my family and I like hanging out with them and talking. I also like to be alone and need alone time, and I don't really need people to "do" things but I do enjoy having a coffee or drinks and discussing anything. I like alcohol which doesn't mean I'm a huge drunk or anything but I will certainly enjoy some drinks with friends, either at a cafe or one of our apartments. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:09 AM
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I feel like if she knew she doesn't want to keep the pregnancy then what is there really to talk to you about? It's fair that she told you after the fact, but you simply don't have the say since you're not going through what she'd be going through. I'm not saying you don't have the right to feel what you want and break up with her (in fact you should since what's the point in continuing with resentment, for either side). Just that what she did simply makes sense from woman's pov. I never underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 08:13 AM
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I just find it weird to think that a woman would go through with an unwanted pregnancy just because she has people willing to adopt - people are always willing to adopt newborns. But women will abort to not have to physically (and mentally) go through it. I'm not saying you're lying, I'm sure it's possible that someone was on the fence and this made her change her mind, but adoption is really not a simple alternative for abortion for most women because it doesn't address the main reason to abort…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 08:09 AM
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I think the two are connected and feeding into each other. Because for a long time there was this ditzy stupid girl image that was so connected with the feminine culture (and still is in many circles), there was always a backlash that absolutely saw this person as the epitome of stupidity. I was also raised with the stereotype of this vapid nails and make up girl who we should separate ourselves from, sometimes too aggressively where we were quick to judge even hints of that behavior as a sign o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:36 AM
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I disagree. I have not experienced that I relate more to other women's dating problems than I do with men's. It's more about personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:55 AM
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I dont think a group of random women even experiences same.difficulties in dating men because they are all different people and dating different people. I cant even say that I experience same difficulties in dating men if I compare my own two past relationships because again, people are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:16 AM
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The premise is so stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:14 AM
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So you're saying its women who think that (which is why bi women prefer to be with men)? I didn't quite get you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:14 AM
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I dont beleive genders make for different people that you need to date men to emphasize with a straight woman and vice versa. We're individuals. I don't think I'd really be thrilled about dating a bi guy to be fair, but objectively I dont think they have any special insight unknown to others. They're also different people with different personalities who happen to have a bisexual preference..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:12 AM
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And you seriously dont know just as many men who fell for abusive or fucked up women, and loved them by suffering for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:00 AM
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Somewhere along the line, the comfort a man provides seems to kill passion for women. Why do you think of all things its comfort that kills the passion? Maybe every unhappy marriage is different but if I think broadly of the cliche relatable issues that happen to people, isnt a lot of it quite the opposite from comfort? People fall in love, get together, feel that love and comfort. Then down the line they take each other for granted. Or life together brings forth expectations one or both conside…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:56 AM
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Why don't we have more literature showing happy adult people living out content lives with zero conflict? Because people look to stories for excitement and tension that doesn't happen in their daily lives, a boyfriend with issues is how that tends to manifest in romance. This is exactly what I was going to say. Plus there is literature by men written about problematic women and some guy suffering over them as well. I also want OP to define bad boys. I read lady Charterlay when I was in high scho…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:46 AM
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I mean, the point of flirting is to be ambiguous. Exactly, I feel like all the people complaining about it are totally missing the point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:33 AM
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It's like saying that freed slaves fucked themselves up because if they had a decent master, they had a nice life with stable working activity (usually physical work that keeps you active), a place to live and food they didn't have to worry about, and they lived in large and beautiful property. Well, now many are stuck in small apartments, worry about bills and rent, face uncertainty about employment and sit behind the computer all day for work instead of all that fresh air, and shit, see how ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 01:52 PM
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No, if I was alive before feminism or living in any non western society I'd probably kill myself, whoever I have to marry, or be considered insane. Or I dont know I'd try to avoid it by being a nun although I dont think they had much freedom either but at least I wouldn't have to have a family. Most likely id try to marry a weak old man and manipulate him, have lovers and exploit men, and I'd be a horrible person because I'd have to be just to make it. Either way, I'm so thankful to feminists be…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 06:08 PM
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. She's told me multiple times, If I can't get off I don't see the point in doing anything for you. Mind you any time we actually do have sex she always cums first. A lot of times she cums twice. So you take very long to come? That might be really frustrating
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 06:07 PM
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Well what did you want to do, was she just in a lazy mode or is it like a thing? Or are you very complicated/take long to come?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 06:04 PM

Exactly, no one does so what is the incentive for a girl to play someone's maid? If she's the type to fish for high earners I reckon she wants her own maid. If she isn't, I reckon she already has a better job to support herself with and doesn't need added chores
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:31 PM

No I'm saying that the very idea that a guy in today's world provides any meaningful protection is funny and thinking it should be balanced by a daily maid sefive is hilarious. Dude, good luck. All I'm saying. Us girls don't need to worry about it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:30 PM

Yeah we take modernity Still many guys will be soooooo protective just because they like it... oh well. The choice is ours I guess :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:20 PM

Omg "let's role play theres anything relevant you can protect me from cause we both like a bit of fantasy (where you matter), and in return I'll be a live in virginal maid although I have a more interesting life sans that crap and many better alternatives..." LOL Babe, if I thought I was in danger I'll get me a bodyguard
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:18 PM
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A pedo would certainly not have a blast on an oil rig
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:02 PM
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How do you know she's just not in the mood
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:30 PM
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That's nice actually. Thin lacey material shouldnt leave lines
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:43 PM
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Plenty of women do ask u/mackenzie013_02 in this thread. Eh it's possible. Don't have a strong opinion either way, all I can say is that it's not my preferred choice but I believe the concern over panty lines isn't just made up because people do think about that aspect. I guess ask a girl and she'll tell you what her reason is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:06 PM
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Wait I looked into this again, some images look ok but from what i see in most pictures is that no, that wouldn't work. They seem mostly very loose, how will you wear that under tight trousers? It would wrinkle and look even worse than just a line But what I discovered and only this year is that if you can find some made of a very thin material (usually I prefer a cut like this which also came under French knickers but I don't think is what you had in mind: https://www.yamamay.com/media/catalog/…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:02 PM
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Oh god I'd rather die than wear a thong, it feels so disgusting and awful and imo it looks so stupid, but when other women wear that it's usually because they want to avoid panty lines. Just cause you're not concerned about them doesn't mean that the person in question doesn't notice it. I notice it sometimes because we wear tight trousers with light material where they can show, I just simply prefer panty lines over thongs, or sometimes girl-boxers help (but then you still get lines). I suppose…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:03 AM
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I don't find that normal or common to be fair. It would make me super uncomfortable. Maybe it's a cultural thing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 10:49 AM
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It's one thing to grab someone's hand if you're directing them or for whatever reason and another to sit, watch movies and hold each others had. That's just so weird!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 10:41 AM
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I agree with op that its partially motivated by men finding it attractive and it's a good way to mess with guys. Plus I feel like these generations of women (that I belong to as well) got so tired of the stereotype that used to be prominent that we all hate each other and are jealous of each other, that I think some take it to the other extreme to prove the world how ok they are with another hot girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:50 AM
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If two male friends are watching a movie together, it's unlikely that they will hold hands or that they will cuddle. If two male friends live together, it's unlikely that they will sleep in the same bed together and if for some reason they do, it's unlikely that they will get undressed and spoon with eachother. As a woman, I can't imagine any of my female friends doing it and I'd be EXTREMELY weirded out by any women who do this. Where is this normal??? It seems completely romantic to me, if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:48 AM
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It seems common that women withhold sex in relationships to get something from their man. I feel like this stereotype is kind of falsely representing a situation. I noticed that many times the issue the story goes that the woman is upset about something and wants the guy to do/not do something so she withholds sex. It is framed as a very manipulative tactic to get him to act. But when I hear some concrete examples I just think, she is clearly pissed off or very upset, the relationship is bad bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:47 AM
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Its clever to use an actual person as a reference. I tried to think from that pov rather than make a list of traits, and I realized that even if I write some specs here, my top 5 - 10 best looking famous guys would not only majorly not meet those specs but there's also no or very little consistency between them. And for the universally attractive I'd probably think someone generic like Bradley cooper (haha sorry don't hate me) whom I don't find attractive at all so it's hard to answer Ultimately…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 04:10 PM

If a man asks for a specific boob size or says "no fat women" he'll be BANNED from that dating platform. Really? Dating platforms allow saying "no short men" and ban guys who say "no fat women"? I'm asking again to be sure that I got it right and there isn't some other thing like a phrasing requirement that plays a role, I genuinely had no idea about this. I thought both lines simply irritate people whom they refer to, or can be found rude by some outside observers, but I didn't know that bannin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:38 AM
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What are you talking about, I never mentioned love. We're talking about going out with someone, of course i wont stop loving someone because they like a bad movie. But it takes me a very long time to love a person and it means I know them inside out. That's totally unrelated to this topic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 06:26 PM
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When you dont really have any special attachment to someone then small shit can turn you off or show a person in a different light
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:50 PM
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If you want to get paid for it then talk to the pub manager and see if they want to hire you as a bouncer. If women keep coming to you with this demand I'm sure you can make a case for yourself. Alternatively suggest the girl in question to pay you for the bodyguard service and her reply will show you if there's any demand for you in this line of work or not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:35 AM
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Yeah I remember not being able to get past someone's favorite movie or taste in music
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:33 AM
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It's more like when you start seeing someone and get to the point where your feelings for him are largely surpassed by the stage you're at in terms of knowing each other. Like, you had some interest and that was good for first three dates but now its 2 months and he's in love and your feelings didnt develop at all, so you realize at this stage you don't have any desire to continue, although nothing technically happened or changed. Then you feel icky. Of course it can be that some stuff actively …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:31 AM
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Yes, there are people who are either publically or privately employed to provide security, they work in security companies, as bodyguards, bouncers etc. Give it a try as a freelancer or submit your resume to a company. It might be a good career choice if there's demand for you, good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:28 AM
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Huh? How and in what way is this related to me too? By high value men you mean people like Weinstein? I don't really get your point or the connection
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:49 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:43 AM
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average and below-average women think they are above their league in terms of looks match when they are not. Question- do you want to date women you consider to be average and below-average? Also, what is screwed up exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:20 AM
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I actually love that song. And I dont think you need to be rich to have fun at all, but people who never do anything and just save money and work are simply bores.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 08:56 AM
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I noticed one thing though. Some women grew up having to tough it out and were totally alone in a society that was in some ways sexist. If they complained they got mocked by men and shut down, even other competitive women were glad to jump in and show they're better. So these women had to take some shit, stand up for themselves in some ways or manipulate their ways up. They had to laugh to some stupid jokes like it doesnt concern them, strike the right attitude when someone crossed a boundary to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 08:53 AM
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Who actually bashes you for it? I don't know about people here but since I was a sentient child I understood that romantic relationships involve people finding each other beautiful. Yes, even the most childish fairy tale versions of romance made it clear that you find someone beautiful as a part of why you fall in love with them (let alone what sexual attraction entails) I mean maybe there are women out there preaching how men shouldnt judge them for whatever or how "fat is beautiful" etc but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 08:40 AM
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Why is it surprising that most of us prefer having fun over messing up our bodies and freedom to make kids. Luckily we are intelligent beings, we can choose
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:05 AM
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Sure, why not haha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:59 AM
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I like my balance, I don't mind my job but I need free time too, so I prefer to balance it than to work like crazy just so one day maybe I retire early. I'm not even thinking about that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 09:47 AM
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I work 50 hours a week and still have the time to work out, clean up, shop, cook, and do repairs on my properties. You may technically have time to do it at the expense of your free time, but most of us would prefer to use that time for ourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 09:46 AM
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I think there are many ways to hire a maid who isn't a professional maid. E.g. a nice retired lady who wants some additional income and who can come make food and do a little cleaning - that's what my parents did. We're not rich at all but most people know someone who can recommend someone...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 09:45 AM
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Although I'm F and don't want kids, if I had a hypothetical daughter I'd want her to be with someone who is good, who deeply and madly loves her, admires her and respects her, who makes her happy and who likes and respects me a lot too so that we can all get along. I definitely wouldn't want her to be with someone who'd weaken or interfere with her contact with her family so he needs to deeply respect that and not be demanding, controlling, alienating etc.. he needs to respect her family. Overal…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:38 PM
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How do you reconcile that your friend, a person you like/think well off, is able to fall for an asshole? Just curious, what type of asshole is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 02:28 PM
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Does she drink? This is my pov but others might disagree. Have her meet your 1-3 best friends first on separate and more intimate occasions over drinks (and have your friends understand that it's the occasion of them meeting her.) If you do it in a too big group she might just get overwhelmed or feel shut out depending on her personality and its unlikely anyone will get to know her well anyway. But if a friend joins the two of you for drinks, he'll get to know her and she'll get to know him. Onc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:32 PM
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Oh for my friends that's the main thing we do, it's usually our core group together with occasional extended gatherings
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 04:32 PM
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If it's a one off, sure, but otherwise we have our group and dynamic and I dont appreciate someone just introducing another factor. If it happens spontaneously and we all like the other person and gradually add them thats fine. But someone's boyfriend isnt another friend, he automatically is closer to one of us than the rest. I feel it's not really something we want. I also dont force it on my friends unless the circumstance is better. But if a friend wants to meet me or me and another friend fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:29 PM
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It's not about gender, I also wouldnt appreciate a friend bringing another girl friend in the group just like that. Of course I have some more open gatherings but in terms of getting together with close friends I just dont like to have a change of dynamics and have a bit of a "intruder" mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:24 PM
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We actually had that awkward moment where one couple split up and she just didn't leave the group, that was 2018 Damn did you want her to leave the group? though my ex is my best friend so a little less weird Did his girlfriends or your boyfriends ever have an issue with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:23 PM
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I’m going to be honest. I HATE when I invite one of my girlfriends out for a one-on-one meet up and she brings her boyfriend. I feel ya. Even when I'm in a relationship and all, i totally get annoyed when a friend starts dating some guy and spending so much time with him! I dont want him around or anything lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:13 PM
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If a friend of mine never brought her SO around I'd assume she was embarrassed and/or he was a huge weirdo. I think I'd just be glad...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:11 PM
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The long-term partners of friends were eventually included in WhatsApp groups Oh wow. Do you still have groups without them though?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:11 PM
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If I ever had a boyfriend that I didn’t have a much fun with as I do my friends I would break up with him. I act the same with or without a boyfriend I didn't mean you and him vs you and your friends, but you + friends vs you + him + friends. Sometimes both of these can work separately but put together they're just not as good
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:57 PM
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No, same thing. I obviously didnt answer this question with an unattractive guy in mind lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:04 PM
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Boring - he doesnt need to do everything with me anyway..I dont need him to hang out with my friends or travel, maybe that's even nice, but I appreciate a reliable constant in my life and gravitate towards those types of people always (even in friendships)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:02 PM

post racist cartoons about me Jesus, what the hell?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 05:55 AM
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Indirect, but not in a "play hard to get" sense, more in patience and enjoying the moment sense. If I am just getting to know someone and we have a good thing going, I don't want to be instantly faced with direct questions that will define what we are and what we want. I feel like it also kills those beginnings where everything is just sweet and possible. Plus if I realize I'm not really into him then indirect approach allows me to easily back off while maintaining a sense of normalcy I also fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 05:38 AM
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I never really think like that at all. When I interact with him, I can see his interest, and if we don't click anyway then I am not really interested. For me part of my interest comes from how we are together, how he makes me feel. If our interaction doesn't spark anything then I just won't care. If it does, he is interested in me anyway. I have no desire to convince anyone of anything. I never really think about what he is offering me or what I am offering him. We either love being around each …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 05:32 AM
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It's harder for me to understand her pov than his.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:07 AM
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Exactly, you put it so much better than me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:49 PM
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Never in my life. Zero interest. That type of mentality alone is a worse turn off than any quality you listed is a turn on. The premise is contradictory in its essence
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:48 PM
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Yeah I'm not either of the groups. I think it's weird but I dont condemn it I always liked older guys and I don't care who likes whom. But in this case I think of my younger bro and I think early 20ies are too young for a relationship with someone who's 40. But also live and let live
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:04 PM
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Sure its anecdotal. But from what I've seen at any age there is a lot of people who want to be around people their age who get them and they all still want love, romance, connection etc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 04:56 PM
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To be fair I always felt that guys were very impressed by intelligence and knowledge too. Of course I doubt that if a girl is unattractive it would make her attractive or that their first reason to be interested wasnt looks. But can say for sure that men fall in love with the intellect, and it's never overlooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 03:31 PM
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I'm not talking about the global reality or denying anyone's experiences but luckily for me and everywhere I've been, I never felt there is any advantage I'd have if I was a guy that I dont have as a girl. Maybe I'm really lucky but there's really nothing I can think of Maybe in those 2 years around the beginning of puberty I just think girls have a more dramatic time and worse (more intense) social groups but that does change soon enough
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 03:27 PM
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Oh it sounds cooler than it is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:54 PM
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My grandma too in her late 70ies after my grandpa died. The woman had: The guy who loved her since high school contacted her, now he is filthy rich and wanted her to be with him and travel the world together. She respectfully declined A flirty grandpa at the aerobics class who competed with another senior gentleman for her affection The aerobics guy she eventually ended up with in a really sweet and very romantic relationship Seriously my grandma would meet me for coffee and discuss her suitors …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:51 PM
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True. I was just talking to a girl whose 40 and dating a 22 year old which I do find weird although she's a cool person
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:48 PM
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I'm no expert and besides this things vary locally (where I'm from women have kids very late, and there's always a good number of single people of all age groups) but I think that if you dont want any kids your position is pretty great. There are women who also dont want kids and you can date them and know they actually mean it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:46 PM
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What is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:44 PM
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Wait I always thought purple pill was just a name of this place because blue debates with red. What is a purple pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:43 PM
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I wouldn't take any pill haha I guess blue in as much that it's an opposition to red, which is gross, but I dont like what's considered blue pilled either. Like, just be a person dont subscribe to a movement here
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:42 PM
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I don't really feel like these 3 groups are like each other much but I read such horrible things about FDS all over reddit and really when I saw it it was underwhelming. To be fair maybe I missed something but to me it seems a bit tongue in cheek, like a reaction of people who saw too much of TRP and feel understandably antagonistic although a bit disconnected from real life Sort of the type of stuff you need to say to a friend who is a bit dumb and on her way of being a doormat so you need to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:52 PM
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Nothing in particular, same that's involved in being a wife - love for the person you're married to, compassion and care, true friendship, decency, faithfulness, and a good dose of understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 06:39 AM

The best way is to ignore her and act pretty ignorant. Let her enjoy her crush from a distance but don't get close to her or involved with her too much, just shrug her off. It's not that deep You are way overthinking this and her feelings of invalidation lol, you're an adult, you don't need to be the one to validate her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 06:36 AM
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if a man expresses that he would like a traditional male-led relationship where he makes the decisions and his woman is expected to obey, he will be mocked, ridiculed, and castigated as a dinosaur, an Archie Bunker, a misogynist. As he should be
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 04:12 PM

I can have an opinion. This is the place for sharing and discussing it. Problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:17 AM
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Even some women admit they desire a wealthy provider man. That's like saying you desire to win a lottery. You think those women are thinking abot romantic feelings? Let alone desiring to serve that guy. It's simply a way for them to say that they want easy money someone else is giving them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 01:24 PM
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Speak for yourself. I’ve never had a problem finding men who didn’t need to feel like a superior, sure some do want that, but not all. And I bet there’s even less women that want a boss instead of a partner than men who want to be one. Seriously, some people here seem to live in an imagined past
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 01:22 PM
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No, it's the way towards resentment and total lack of mutual understanding and sympathy. People love each other the most if they relate to each other and intellectually connect, experience similar issues etc. People who are with a friend are happy. People who are assigned to a role aren't, either way it will seem the arrangement is unfair to one or both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 01:21 PM
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I agree. A lot of people arent undateable but you just know there's no person in the world that will ever be crazy for them because they're just not special in any way, as bad as that sounds. Or maybe I'm just a horrible person thinking that of others
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 01:17 PM
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Nah I'm with you on that. I think people can use their discretion on case by case basis and ghosting is a perfectly fine option. It speaks for itself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 10:55 AM
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That's fine too, I dont know why you guys are assuming it needs to be some deep break up conversation. Whatever it appropriate whether it's a text or just lack of talking from both ends, to an actual chat about it if there was real connection. Point being you're no longer going out with this person
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 10:47 AM
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I'm definitely not having any different standards for men and women and I understand why you'd do it if you beleive your date is doing it to. In that context you almost have to do it because no one wants to be the faithful one while the other person dates others. Ironically if you go into it assuming the other person is seeing other people, you're practically forced to do the same even if you dont really care to, just to play the same game But the problem is in that kind of setting, I understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:55 AM
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He only cared if I "worked enough" Hahaha Well put though, I totally agree! Someone's thought process and analysis of the world means so much more than... which job they have and what their hobbies are. That's why Its so hard to relate with many things on reddit that's dominated by americans. Like this doesnt even exist for them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:33 AM
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Yes, of course he is. If he wants to have coffee with the other girl then he wouldnt go out with this one. If he went out with her but wants coffee with another girl, then he'll just stop dating the first one .. it's not complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:29 AM
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Yeah exactly. Do americans think that if you want to stop dating someone you have to undergo some kind of ritual and get their approval? You just tell them and start seeing someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:27 AM
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Either way if you're going to stop seeing a person you have to tell them something. You dont have to be boyfriend and gf but as long as you're seeing them, why would you see other people? If they're not enough to hold your attention then just tell them you dont want to date anymore. How is that complicated?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:24 AM
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Americans sound like lawyers "did you clearly communicate your boundaries and expectations of fidelity..." listen, someone who sleeps with other people while seeing you is not crazy about you and doesn't respect you. How can you excuse it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:22 AM
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I agree with this, but want to add that exclusivity doesnt mean seriousness. I feel like Americans approach dating as a job interview. They have this clear goal in mind, they measure everything, it's not a fun process for them so of course they keep seeing others too because otherwise their precious time and effort would be wasted if it's a wrong person Whereas at least in my experience, we date people we like because its enjoyable. It doesnt always have to fit into our greater life goal, it's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:20 AM
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That's really interesting. You're a cop?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:48 PM
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Man I'm central and southern European. Kazahstan is asia
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:31 PM
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Is it? It's odd. Growing up in what can be considered Balkans I never encountered the idea that women have submissive personalities. Last 3 years online it seems so many women refer to themselves this way which every fiber in my body sees as degrading. I dont get it but in my personal experience it's a relatively new thing. Let's be real, aside from this sub in most western counties women have been equal since 50ies or so. Even socialist societies like mine strongly believed that... so I dont kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:56 PM
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Yup. Look it's the same for all of us, male or female. We like good looking, but no one likes looks obsessed high maintenace mentality as it is inherently uninteresting and self involved. There's nothing nobile in looking good. It's just eye pleasing. So when you turn it into a lifestyle it's off putting. When you're jeans and tshirt , couldnt care less but still hot.. yeah, we'll take it And I confidently say both genders are pretty much aligned about this
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 06:03 PM
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I also think, and yeah this is just my personal preference, but guys shouldnt approach appearance the way some of them do. I am so turned off by men with groomed hairstyles and beards and fashionable clothes. It looks so bad. I want the guy to be clean and I want him to wear nice fitting jeans instead of something awful like cargo pants but I dont want to see him in those rolled up pants with fancy shoes, that just looks so snobby and off putting. I want him to look like someone who doesnt care …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:50 PM
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I know guys like that. They'll flirt with you in front of your boyfriend. Sometimes you can get sucked in because it seems like they're just fascinated with what you're saying and you're not really doing anything to lead them on so they keep on going, but really it's good to draw lines. A respectful guy will involve your boyfriend in the convo with you, just how you'd do to another girl. Maybe this is a bit off topic but just my advice, don't encourage those people
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:35 PM

I think the only women annoyed by it are women who settled for a guy Honestly to me the idea of someone "settling" for me sounds so disrespectful and gross But I noticed that on this sub people claim its unrealistic to just love someone and have it last in a way that isnt transactional, and men here think that way too so I dont know why you're pointing at women The only issue I see is with those guys who take any previous experience as a sign that the woman is now settling for them because she m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:31 PM
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I don't know but I definitely noticed that guys think being single is worse. I know some older single women who to me seem to have really good lives, but the men who also know them always make comments to me about these women like "poor her, do you think she's lonely, should we hook this one up with this single guy we know of the same age although they have nothing in common etc..." like we perceive two totally different realities. On the other hand I'm very sensitive about the idea of unhappily…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 01:50 PM
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Just ignore them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:12 AM
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I agree, in my country American bragging sounds borderline insane and very childish
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:11 AM
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I don't think that people who call themselves ugly on reddit are same people who post their pics on FB and Insta
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:10 AM
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Damn ok. Respect for your adventurousness
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:32 PM
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Well I think its just that conservative is the limiting factor. So of course you can set your boundaries within an open field but you cant set your open field within boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:26 PM
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Plus I had never really been with anyone with her body type before and I only realized how big a problem it was going to be until we had sex the first time? Isn't it just common sense, like do you need to try it to know if you like it or not? I'm not dissing her or anything but in general terms, we dont need to actually try every type we're not into to know whether we're into them or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:33 PM
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I noticed that reddit goes into two extremes on this. On one hand are guys who act like the only thing that's not nasty is a woman with nothing on her face dressed like crap because I assume it sounds obtainable. On the other hand are women who make it sound like an average girl wears make up 24/7 and some really elaborate shit too like fake eyelashes, fake nails etc., and any woman who looks like she isnt wearing it is actually wearing even more Look in reality most women occassionally have no …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:02 PM
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I'm kind of divided on this issue. On one hand I agree in theory that going dutch is fair..in practice though, all the men I liked and was with really wanted to cover the bill. We'd always argue because of course I'd offer to pay too and eventually we'd say I'll get the next one but then again he'd go out of his way to get it until maybe we were already in a relationship and then going Dutch was easier to accept, and even that not always. These were guys who are enthusiastic to spend time with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:20 AM
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Why were you even trying to force yourself to be into someone you weren't into?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:01 AM
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I disagree with you about this being a woman thing but I agree with you in general. Yeah, you fall for a person fully, you're not looking at it as any compromise. I have some things I'd never want in a person I'm with because there's no spin that would even make those things ok. Theres no compromise there. But most of the stuff listed here seem like just tendencies or preferences, so if you happen to meet someone who is an exception to the usual and you fall in love then nothing is being comprom…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:59 AM
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I think every sane person wants someone to be with them because they're the only person they want among everyone else, not because they're desperate (plus isnt it so insulting that someone thinks they were the only available choice, meaning others are better.) Oh my god, I cant imagine a person hearing this and not breaking up and committing suicide or having a fucked sense of self after, that's awful. I cant understand why you'd be ok with that??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:58 AM
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Good point about the movie theater
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:33 PM
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I guess if they want to buy something that's in the mall
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:33 PM
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I think the amusement park is great just not as a first date, especially if you can get alcohol. You have adrenaline and fun. Political rally is a good date just not first date. Theres also adrenaline involved and after you can go for beers and have a heated discussion A casino could be fun if you're not gambling like an idiot but just playing around and having drinks The rest I agree with 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:32 PM
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My point was, there's a whole life outside of work either way, of course job isnt the "point" but not one thing is. You can do all kinds of things and change them through time. But maybe I just dont get you or you actually do want kinds and I misunderstood where you're coming from. I'm just thinking that if the reason is boredom, there are so many more interesting things you could do, unrelated to work - but if having a kid is what's interesting for you, then of course that's another story
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 07:48 PM
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But wouldn't this be just another monotony? Cant you do something more enjoyable instead? A job is just a job, way to make money to support yourself. It just seems like you're only attributing importance to uncomfortable things, if that makes sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 07:11 PM
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Cant you just Netflix, read a book or try kickboxing or something? I never understood people who said they want kids because you'd get bored otherwise. I cant imagine anything more boring than caring for a child Btw I'm only speaking so openly because you dont want kids either
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:21 PM
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From what I've seen men still go out and spend money on things they enjoy, but as soon as a woman leaves a baby with the father and goes out, they call her and want he I really wish those women would stand up for themselves and hang up on him. I think many just let themselves be guilt tripped. If a guy can go out drinking with his buddies than how can she not do the same? It makes me pissed on her behalf, I think all parents need to have a social and a personal life and have some fun or else the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:39 AM
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Why would this eat anyone's soul? Theres nothing incredibly significant about having a child either, just seems like a pretty stupid way to try to get "meaning" if you already are an empty person (not saying that this is all parents, just those who think this way - many parents love their kids but would not agree that's what gives their life philosophical meaning). Having children consists or many activities that take up your time and a new relationship in your life that varies with individuals.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:19 AM
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This is a generalization I'm very confident making and I'm sure any woman here will agree, but women banter and joke all the time between ourselves. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:53 AM
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I really see men described on this sub as if they're all marines, i get that groups like that exist but what special activities is a regular guy having? Literally every bloke I know socializes with his friends by going for coffees and beers and talking, maybe watching a game
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:52 AM
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In my experience women point other side too. It really depends on the person you're talking to and their intelligence/comprehension skills more than anything. I dont know, I can't relate this to men and women in my life. I think both do both of these...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:49 AM
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First, it's very easy to find women with communication style more suitable to yours. I disagree that men dont want female friends, I just think men will naturally develop romantic interest towards a woman they like as a friend, and will want to come close to a woman in the first place due to sexual interest. As for women, I don't think they have any particular need for male friends aside from 2 reasons: 1. Male friends who are also interested in you can be very nice for the ego, but that's not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:46 AM
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True, I pretty much just have my friends and any new friendship happens by itself, I dont think of making it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:41 AM
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Dude let's be realistic, most average men dont do any of these things whereas almost all of us wear some make up at some occasions. I just disagree with the notion that normal usage of makeup is equivalent to a facial alteration makeup pros do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:10 PM
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Yeah for sure. If it's good there's nothing to talk about. It's only interesting if it's funny, meaning bad
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 11:34 PM
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I think women. At least I can think of some broke unattractive men who got a lot of admiration and respect for their intellect or talent and exactly the fact that they weren't rich bastards or pretty bastards. They can be almost elevated figures. Genuine, intellectual, artistic, philosophers... Women can maybe get more pity among the pitiful but who wants that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:53 PM
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Sexual for sure, romantic attraction takes a long time. But it doesnt mean I want to have sex with everyone I'm sexually attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:48 PM
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Hahaha nothing. Really though I just had a very interesting thing happen. Pp definitely subjected me more to the views I wouldn't find in my real life groups of people, and it made me think more and focus more on the whole gender relationship kind of thing (I guess before that I'd say I'm gender blind or something) But just now I was reading this book (I got from my dad) from one prominent feminist in my country based on her articles made in late 80ies early 90ies. And omfg she is discussing cri…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:38 PM
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Seeing someone- no idea. I'm often seeing someone. But having sex, maybe a year or more. I can see people and not have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:34 PM
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I feel like a lot of men dislike women as a group (not saying you can or should love a broad group of people, but there is definitely a negative association ) so a woman not liked by other woman is maybe free of that stigma Like Cinderella and ugly step sisters. Speaking if which, a lot of guys think all women have is their looks so they imagine an ugly woman simply logically has to be desperate and jealous of the truly beautiful women (and maybe often this is true with both genders but I know m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:32 PM

I feel like a lot of men dislike women as a group (not saying you can or should love a broad group of people, but there is definitely a negative association ) so a woman not liked by other woman is maybe free of that stigma Like Cinderella and ugly step sisters. Edit: I thought of one other thing. A lot of guys think all women have is their looks so they imagine an ugly woman simply logically has to be desperate and jealous of the truly beautiful women (and maybe often this is true with both gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:32 PM
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When I choose what to wear I am focused on how I look in it. I If my body looks good in something that shows it off then I'm happy., it makes me feel good about my own skin. In no way did that take away or even have anything to do with my personality. Wearing baggy or conservative clothes also doesnt substitute personality any more than a tight top and a mini does
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 04:11 PM
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Cant he bleach it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:21 PM
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Exactly. I've seen guys who on paper were all wrong and felt attraction because something worked, I've seen good looking guys where one ugly element kind of ruined it for me. And I'm not saying its personality etc, I'm talking purely about the physical. Maybe one bad part stands out more while few bad parts can create a certain look that is likable and pleasant even if not classically pretty? But yeah it's hard to say, it either just works as a whole or not. Of course nastiness like orange teeth…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:20 PM
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There is a certain need for attention and involvement with what others are thinking and doing that I find annoying in activist types. Even if I respect what they do, it's not what i need in my life plus they are already subjecting everything to a cause. Plus I think they care about the bigger cause more than they end up having energy for individuals imo I'm not saying you have to not give a shit but I prefer people who care and focus the most on individuals they know and love
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:08 AM
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Yeah but I don't think it's fair to give 50% of money. I think it's a bit unfair that someone is entitled to millions because they married rich while actually having a much easier life than a poor person who didnt work. There should be some compensation tiers based on ability but one person doesn't deserve more than the other. However it should be ensured that these people will be taken care of enough not to stay in bad marriages or worry for survival and there should be some national programmes…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 05:56 PM
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No worries, I wasnt insulted at all, it was just a little friendly banter. I just didnt know what to respond since I can't exactly contradict your experience. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 04:19 PM
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pays attention to what his partner like Exactly this. People are different but it isnt rocket science. I mean if I start playing with the guy's ear or sucking his neck I can see right away if it's a huge turn on or not based on how he reacts. Doesnt mean that people cant vocalize, especially if something is really uncomfortable or a big no to them, but it's not hard to see what to do more of and what to move on from If you're performing a "winning move" but are too dumb to see that the other per…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:04 PM
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I dont know about every woman but I certainly expect the guy to listen to me instead of assume what I like. And it's no issue to say what works and how, in fact that's how it should be. That doesnt mean the act is mechanic and he is just performing the directions, of course all this can be done with some feeling and passion. But like, dont try to take creative liberties
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:02 PM
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I feel like they age the same, but it's just that certain aspects of aging don't look bad on men while women's appearance suffers more from the same thing. For example wrinkles, they don't really hurt the look of many guys (some even suit them). Grey hair looks nice on men but most women will look better if they colour their hair. Some men can even age objectively badly - get bald, fat etc and still have some sex appeal about them like old Jack Nicholson. Not all attractive old men have to be so…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 01:45 PM
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Yeah, that type always sounds so scripted. But I feel like it's also maybe a bit of an American thing (sorry) They all seem like they constantly have to prove themselves and always try to put a value on everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 12:52 PM
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I think the fact that most of the time people will discuss and rate those who are famous and relatively good looking. So of course its possible that some of us don't get what is a big deal about a certain person's looks, we just don't see him or her as that hot, which creates an impression that things are relative. But in reality we are just saying that a relatively good looking person doesn't do it for us, or your 8 is my 9, these differences are on a much smaller scale than they seem to be whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 12:35 PM
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Would you really say a dwarf couple are not attracted to each other just because neither of them objectively are beautiful? I could imagine that they maybe don't find each other physically attractive but know they can't really date a person who doesn't have dwarfism so they simply focus on what's at hand. I don't know how those fat fetishists work, thinking about it I wonder if they actually find fat beautiful in the sense that we would normally use that word, or if it is exactly the deformity o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 12:22 PM
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Honestly, I don't feel like gender roles are deeply affecting my life or personality in any way. I was never really pushed to be a certain way just because I'm a girl, I never thought the society would ostracize me or that anyone whose opinion is worth a thing has any such expectations. I remember even as a kid if I ran into some traditional opinion about women it would be something I would mock and proudly argue because I always knew I had a full freedom to dismiss whatever I don't like and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:16 AM
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Wow that's young She liked to party and slept with quite a few dudes. I mean, that's what kids do (I'm not defending her, I almost find it absurd to comment on her because we're talking about teenagers). You guys were so young! How did your parents let you get married! But good for you that you're over it al and better now Do you know what happened to her and what she's doing now? Did you leave her when you found out or what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:18 AM
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Was she like that even before the kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:15 AM
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he had developed a secret meth habit If you don't mind me asking, how did that happen for him and why? Was it through friends, was he in a bad place, or did he just think why not try it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:13 AM
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He drank so much and would embarrass me in front of our friends or my coworkers. What would he do? Did he ever got it under control after you left?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:11 AM
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I think something is lacking about that person. And of course they are desperate, since they put more stake on being in a relationship. For me the problem with those people is that you don't know how much they just need to be with someone, and how much is it about loving one specific individual. If you're always fine being alone, then it means you only date someone because you want them. But if you're not, then you do it because you want a relationship in general...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:10 AM
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I agree but I also think its important to understand that in the end you either love someone or you don't. Someone can check all the standards and you still won't feel it. Someone can not match your on-paper standards but you just love the person and realize it has nothing to do with it. I'm not saying love is so unrelated to your normal preferences, or that it just happens randomly, of course the person you feel it for will likely have a lot of qualities that are important to you. But people ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:08 AM
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I think it's a mix between too vague and too specific that makes it very hard for anyone to feel they'd belong to that list
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 07:43 AM
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I think some of the things OP listed could be intimidating if you overthink them. I'm a girl but if I was looking at that list wondering if I'd match it, it would make me overthink some parts in a bad way. E.g. when she said "cares about environment", seeing it pointed out like that I'd wonder to which extent. I care about environment conversationally but how much investment is this person looking at? Similar plans and aspirations - I have no idea what her plans and aspirations are but clearly s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 07:14 AM
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Honestly I just think of the act of sex. I dont put myself into the fantasy, I never think of people I know or famous people, I dont even imagine men I find attractive (I imagine attractive men in other contexts but its not connected to getting off), faces are irrelevant, it's not beautiful, it's just anonymous bodies having sex. I wouldn't even call these fantasies because fantasy is something like a wish, this is just mental stimulation Sometimes I dont even need to think of anything but get o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 05:54 PM
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I really have no interest in either. To get off I just need to physicially stimulate myself and I have my imagination I find erotic books and romance really uninteresting and at best a good comedy material and porn also mainly makes me laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:07 AM
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I dont really have an end goal as much as a list of what to avoid. I just want to enjoy myself and see as I go. Not all who wander are lost and all that. The idea of a set future I have to reach terrifies me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 05:53 PM
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Yeah, right after sex my urge is to get up and shower and be alone (not in a sad way, just do something else). I have an intense need for isolation, like I reached the maximum that we can do together in that moment, now get lost for a bit. It doesnt mean I completely and permanently lose interest though. However that feeling also happens but it isn't prompted by orgasm but by literally anything. Sometimes I just wake up one day and it's like my perspective is shifted and I have zero interest in …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 02:56 PM
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Aww you watch girls too? I just got into the show recently and I am surprised by how much I like it. Its actually good. I started thinking hed be annoying because of how he was in first few eps and ended up loving him quickly - and yeah he's super hot and likable Better example of unconventionally attractive would be that Ray guy. He really doesnt have a good looking face but I like his cynical style
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:41 PM
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Not true, tons of kids have good lives with divorced parents, and many wish their parents would get divorced. If you can't civilly divorce you're probably not going to have a great home enviornment either, plus is your goal being a role model for misery? Theres nothing noble about staying together for the kids. Its not fair to yourself, to the other person (both whose lives are important), or to the kid who should learn that being an adult doesnt mean being miserable and mistakes can be fixed. J…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:52 AM
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Doesn't have to be. Get divorced and be free of a lame marriage, you'll still have your kids. Its just weird to me that you're mentioning people without kids as worse because they got divorced more (meaning also those who didn't are together for each other), contrasting it with sticking it out for an ulterior motive (as if that was then more worthwhile.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:03 AM
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I've seen enough marriages where both people let themselves go physically I also think when you go outside, you dress ok and look good. Many people the moment they walk in change to pajamas. Doesn't make them necessarily look bad but you definitely feel different and project different energy depending on what you're wearing. This is why I think people need to going out for dinners and drinks regularly so that they get to see the "outside" person and not always the home casual edition
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:48 AM
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Marriages with kids just tend to make both stay in each other's company for more time for the kids sake. But how is that better? It just means they're stuck and not that they have a better marriage. Why would you want someone to be with you for a reason that isn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:41 AM
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I wonder how much of this idea comes from the fact that when you date someone, maybe see them 2x per week, go out, drink, come back and have sex 1-2 x per week, it seems you have a great sex life cause all your interactions are sex charged. But lets say you marry them and see them every day, still go out about once per week and have sex 1-2 x per week - nothing changed except the increase in non sexual time together. So it seems your sex life is suddenly worse (I am not saying anything about tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:40 AM
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they just rather watch Netflix every night. That can be nice for work nights. But not like, every night.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:37 AM
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" Meaning that as soon as women realize you're 100% committed to them (which isn't that the point of marriage? At least from an emotional stance) they aren't interested in you as a sexual being anymore. Could it be that men let themselves go and relax in marriage so women lose interest? Im sure both apply depending on the case. Broadly I think everyday life doesn't really create sexually charged situations and people get tired. If you don't live together and took specific time for each other, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:35 AM
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Lol I think a woman is more empowered when she doesnt have to manipulate anyone in getting her way because she already is an adult able to support herself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:18 AM
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Yeah I agree with you. If you have a job you can support yourself through, then you can stop and wonder why being married to someone richer than you would have to make YOUR life harder if by living alone you'd have less chores and same job. Makes no sense. It's not your problem the other person chose the job they did
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:16 AM
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Susan is very beautiful imo. I get you. I'm just saying the college age look isn't a pinnacle of good looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 08:01 PM
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Thinner hair is also manageable when long without too many touch-ups while short hair always requires styling. I have friends too No I dont have kids. But I cant believe opting for cutting off my hair over just trying it in a bun especially because I like having longer hair and it's always been a consistent thing in my life. I cant imagine a simple practically just rolling over your personal aesthetics
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 07:56 PM
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Like, hmmm... whenever people tell me I look like a specific movie star, it’s always one of the movie stars where you’re like, oh... thanks I guess. Like who? I'm sorry for being annoying I didnt mean to say your looks are that important but I was just saying that theres no reason to think your best looks are in the past. You have the same face, you can have million different styles, you have everything ahead of you. Especially women who are more handsome than typically pretty tend to look reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 07:15 PM
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But I'm not leaving it long because I think I'll ever be able to look like a sexy appealing 20 year old ever again. Those days are gone. Get out of it! Why are you so negative? Of course you can look amazing. Maybe you're just not feeling it now but I'm early 30ies and I dont think I'm any less attractive than in my 20ies and I think the same about all my friends - many are even better looking now. Including those who had kids. I know women in 40ies, 50ies, 60ies etc who manage to look mad good.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 06:11 PM
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Oh I totally get that. I was kind of anti kids for the longest time because i dont want any, but when it comes to my friends- they are people I love. Of course I will love their kids and be involved. It just seems natural, because they are someone important to them so they will be important to me. I also think that having different adults involved with your life is a great thing. You get to have different relationships, people who understand you or inspire you in many different ways, and how nic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 05:42 PM
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immediately after pregnancy, a lot of your hair falls out all at once, and a shorter hair cut can disguise thinner hair. TIL. Oh wow Point 2 - you can tie it up Point 3 - I find it so much easier caring for long hair. I have a lot of hair and short hair always puffs up pr looks weird when not styled or straightened. Long hair pulls itself down and I dont have to do anything but wash it for it to look decent I think short is harder to style unless super short and that's just not a happy way to be
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 05:37 PM
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Oooh right. Yeah that did come out badly I was more referring to it in general, the having no life but your kids part. I gladly have ZERO idea about their sex life, I just think they're a good couple. But I mean more, I grew up seeing my mum make career achievements, travel, hang out with friends, have stuff going on in life. And she was an involved happy parent, a person who always wanted kids and puts her kids first yet it never meant she was a slave to me or she didnt have million other ambit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 05:31 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 05:10 PM
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I just dont get why and how some women allow this to happen to them. I was a kid when I knew I'd never let that be me (my mom wasnt that either and I'm very happy for that) Like fuck all if you made a mistake to have a kid with a guy who doesnt do shit then dump him and go live with your mum or literally anything just dont be a fucking martyr. Better to be a single mum than to also benefit some moron in the process. And I dont buy that whole "if I dont do it then it will never get done" either -…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 04:15 PM
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I think so but I also think it's important how these friends match with the new gf. For example I have enough sense that when I meet a girlfriend or a wife of some guys I'm hanging out with in a group, I totally focus on her and make her feel welcome. I dont talk about inside jokes or ignore her cause she's new and I definitely dont go into long deep conversations with her guy.In fact I get into good talks with her. If shes in the same place I get her number and call them out through her or make…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 08:49 AM
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What if you're slim and very fit looking but you aren't athletic at all and dont practice any especially healthy lifestyle (doesnt mean you're unhealthy - you might eat ok and move but it's not something that takes your focus, time, energy or interest)? It's totally possible to look good without being interested in it dragging a whole "lifestyle" behind it either for you or the person you want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 05:04 AM
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I dont understand? Who should people explain themselves to? Its between the two people, if one wants out it's over. What does it matter why. They aren't prisoners
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 08:21 PM
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Is there anyone who doesnt know about the existence of divorce? No? Then I assume no one really believes that marriage means someone is stuck with them for life no matter how crappy the relationship becomes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:23 PM
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Aside from the whole thing where people were miserable but couldn't really get divorced, how is that a good thing? I'd rather be unsuccessful and get a few great years, sincere emotions and a breakup than a life sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:20 PM
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I believe if people want kids but aren't in love with anyone (separate issues) they'd be much better off being a single parent and raising the kid the way they want 100% with support from their blood family than marrying some person just to fulfill this purpose. So unnecessary and just a drag really, isn't it annoying that someone you're not even with just for yourself has a say in how you raise your kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:50 PM
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Yeah I seriously doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:56 AM
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Abuse it, neglect it, not love it...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:55 AM
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Where what isn't self evident? That many guys on this sub aren't aware of what average guy is really like (because that's the topic of the post)? Or the reality that every normal person with social contacts is aware of, which wasn't supposed to be "thought provoking" but rather contrasted to unrealistic views described by guys on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:52 AM
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Relevance?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:51 AM
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Right but they dont need a husband to have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:35 AM
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It's still good advice - I dont see it as a goal that women should just get with any man. I would never advise any woman (or man) to lower her standards or settle, if theres no mad love then just be single, it's no big deal. At least it's better than some lameish relationship that comes with compromises and is by definition pointless. Having said that I dont think women of any age should have difficulties based on many women I know and see. That's a bit weird. Most have only higher standards wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 03:11 AM
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I mean love is an emotion. If something forced two people who loved each other apart, they can love each other without doing anything. I'd maybe say it's more than just an emotion you constantly and actively feel but more of a fact that defines a relationship. I have people in my life I love. I feel different emotions towards them or with them at times but love is the underlying foundation of our relationship, although I dont have to constantly have my heart filled with love to know that (I mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 03:06 AM
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If you at any point no longer love the person you're with then you should break up because what's the point. Being "in love" defined in the sense that you always feel the crazy intensity is of course something that ebbs and flows since you simply have other things in life to focus on as well.. but that shouldnt mean that when for example you're more preoccupied with work or more chilled you have any doubts you love the person romantically, and them alone. I dont think it should be normal at all …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 03:02 AM
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I think for a lot of people, they are. Otherwise its self interest
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 02:58 AM
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You owe your child an ability to live up to standard. You dont owe them a percentage of your salary. You dont owe them a million because you as an individual happen to be rich. How is that connected?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 06:15 PM
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You owe your child an amount of what you make To me that makes no sense. Why would you owe that to a child but a poor person's child apparently isn't owed that in their life (because apparently all the burden is on the parent and then that's supposed to be fair?? How is that system fair to the poor kid?)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 05:02 PM
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Dude, this is so sad. Why are you still with this guy? Can you just get the hell out of there and go to some family or something until you get back on your own feet, I'd be so happy for you if you threw this guy out of your life and made him regret being himself. Theres no excuse for him, he is just a shit person and shouldnt get any benefit from you ever again Seriously reading this... if I could hurt this guy on your behalf I'd do it, I want to punch his face and I dont even know him!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 07:16 PM
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It just so happens that vast majority of women don’t have fundamental understanding of mechanics, for example - which is something prized by men. So I know tons of guys from different aspects of my life and barely any of them have any knowledge of mechanics, interest in it, or an appreciation for it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 04:20 PM
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The sexes have different definitions of respect Women see respect as equalizing Men see respect as elevating What? Since when is this a gendered difference? It's a contextual difference. Every person is aware of both meanings of the word I'd believe
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 04:15 PM
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Who do men respect, and why? Are women capable of having those traits? Wouldn't that depend on the man? And why not? I definitely dont notice any shared concept of respect between women, it's not like all women respect the same people or same traits. It's highly individual
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 04:14 PM
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BTW OP, I like twin peaks too, but season 3 was shit. What's wrong with you!! It was a crazy trip I love it all including fire walk with me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 02:39 PM
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Nah this convo was about personal respect towards individual people. I dont mean "do you respect female gender" - that means nothing. But apparently there's an idea that men are unable to respect an individual woman by default
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 12:46 PM
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Well read my comment. I said there are different types of respect. But actually yes, I definitely respect animals for their individual qualities and abilities I'd say I respect someone as a whole more if I love them as something separate from their individual actions, and just respecting an action doesnt make me in awe of someone either. I have people I dislike as human beings but whom I respect in some regard. But then I also disrespect them in another regard by not liking them so its confusing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 12:43 PM
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I guess there are many different types of respect. I also dont need to respect someone to love them but I'd say I respect all people I love because I love them - and because they love me (which is a different category of respect than how i respect role models or people I intellectually admire or people who underwent an extreme hardship I cant comprehend but can "respect"... and different yet from basic human respect). I'd definitely say I have respect for love itself so a sentence like "I love y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 12:39 PM
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The thing is women themselves were taking this premise for granted even if they discussed it as something negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 12:36 PM
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To see what as attention whoring? Are you maybe in a wrong thread (something about cutting etc)?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 08:33 AM
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I definitely KNOW that many men respect many women. I am more interested in why so many people here seem to think this isn't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 08:10 AM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 08:09 AM
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I think in this particular topic people were talking about how men don't ever respect any woman, so not in a general social sense but that you'll never respect a woman you love, or other women in your life who might individually be pretty impressive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 08:09 AM
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In what world do men by default not have supportive friends? Almost every man I know has male friends who talk to them about same things we do, I notice they're usually much more emo than my group of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 07:00 AM
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That they don't have to lose their hair. I am so happy to be a woman for this reason. Im so attached to my hair and I'd be totally devastated if it started falling off
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 06:58 AM
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I never fully understood this. As a girl whose been to many different cities, its really not that unthinkable to walk alone at night, usually its very easy to always be among people and places unless you really go off into dark allies. And there definitely are cases of guys who got into fights or had someone beat them up for whatever reason, so I think certain neighborhoods are just bad news for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 06:57 AM
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How can anyone be jealous of that!!! If I wanted kids, I'd be jealous of men for not having to go through something that awful (but ok, you can always adopt). I can't think of many things more bizarre and revolting to me than pregnancy and birth
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 06:55 AM
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I don't know, I'd rather be respected than loved. Love without respect means nothing to me, and I am not interested in being anyones complement... I doubt many are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 06:43 AM
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I dont know, you can masturbate 5 times per day without a material, so who is more addicted
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 06:49 PM
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I honestly mostly find porn hilarious If I'm in the mood to masturbate it's because I'm horny, so what's the porn/erotica for? And if I'm not horny I can't imagine thinking "I need to get horny so I can masturbate." Exactly!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 04:31 PM
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Weird question but why does it seem that everyone needs material to masturbate? I dont know if its cause I started very early in life or what but I completely rely on fantasy, actually even less, sometimes physical urge is enough and i can mentally consume something totally not sexual with my mind just randomly flicking some materials here and there (other times I can have my own elaborate fantasy of course). I'm not saying nothing I see or read can EVER sexually stimulate me, of course it can b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 03:34 PM
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I think no one who looks at their partner and sees them as "somewhat attractive" is truly satisfied or in love. On the other hand I know women (and men) who are head over heels with someone I dont find the least bit attractive but if you ask them you'd think they're describing the statue of David...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 03:29 PM
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I've been in relationships where I was completely emotionally uninvolved and so I didnt need to get over anything. Not every realtionship is a big deal Then there are relationships that already died long before breakup so when people finally pull off that band aid everything is already long healed But if you have feelings left, then dont start relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 03:26 PM
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I think I'm hotter but I think they're hot too and I don't consider it dating down - if I like him, then I'm not dating down, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 08:07 AM
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I would only be with someone who is madly in love with me but I don't care about the relationship future and don't like pressure. For me wanting a future isn't really the same as the expression of fatal love - many people have their plans that involve a relationship and are looking for someone who fits that without too much passion. i'd rather be with someone who is in love then, DESPITE the fact its impossible and impractical (no future, for whatever reasons)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 08:04 AM
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Nah I like to be the one that gets compliments about looks from the two of us,and I want him to hear all those stupid "congratulations" comments. Its so primitive, but its what I like He needs to be attractive to me, sure, but in a unique way. I need to be the classically pretty one
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 08:00 AM
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Its a must
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:59 AM
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I don't find it that complicating, I guess because men find me attractive but I'm certainly not chasing behind anyone even that 2%. Its what I find attractive, and mostly its from the men who already made connection with me themselves. It doesn't mean that every girl would agree about what my 2% is and I certainly don't see those guys as anything special in itself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 08:59 AM
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If you're not, it might be unpleasant but it certainly can't be shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 08:52 AM
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I don't think your partner needs to have any involvement with your masturbation habits either way, but yeah, no need to feel ashamed. I still would find it really irritating if a guy started to "encourage" me to masturbate, what does he think I am? Its a personal thing, self-service... I can't imagine a girl having to supportively tell her boyfriend that she definitely thinks he should masturbate and is very proud of him for doing that. Either way, there is something disturbingly sexually offput…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 07:38 AM
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Oh ok, yeah that makes much more sense. Still don't see what about it is causing such shock and is worth constant discussion, as if people can't pretty much conclude the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 07:37 AM
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If she's open to it, encourage her to self-pleasure. Why does he have to encourage her about it? I'd feel really weird if a guy tries to give me advice about my masturbation habits, like, thanks, I got it. Don't kill my enjoyment by now making me connect it with your sappy encouragement
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 06:22 AM
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Why does maturity matter, you can be mature and still decide it makes you unhappy and isn't worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 06:21 AM
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I don't even see whats so shocking here. I even find it a large number, I personally probably find 2% of all men I see attractive, and that's generous. Most people aren't very attractive. Average isn't attractive. Quite above average is attractive by definition and so I'd say it makes sense for that range to be about 20 or 10 %. Its a special thing to be attractive, if just anyone was attractive it would have no significance I think we live in a world where everyone needs to be beautiful, but re…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 06:18 AM
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That sounds more like a mixture of lust, idealization and infatuation. Bare minimum as a starting point...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 07:26 PM
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I'd rather die than arranged marry lol. Of course there are soulmates..its not about compatibility alone but about love. You sound like you dont understand that people have the capacity to fall madly in love with each other and then stay in love together... if you'd ask that person if they had a soulmate of course they'd say yes. Why want anything less than that? Being alone is not a tragedy, but settling is so sad. And unnecessary in today's world
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 07:43 AM
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Why is it retarded? You go to work because you want to be a self sustaining adult, ready to support yourself and your family at any time, and don't want to lose your employablility by not working. Not to mention people have careers they actually care about. No one needs to be with the kid 24/7. If they have a good alternative source to watch over the child, then parents get more variety in their lives and so does the kid Why would women have to be the ones to stay at home anyway? All your argume…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:00 PM
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I don't know, I was never really into clubbing or raves, I don't like dancing or loud places. But I would (and still do) go out with friends regularly for drinks. Now we also do it at homes a lot but we always had cafes/bars, pubs, hell even park benches. Of course if you're open to meeting people and hooking up to various levels, being drunk helps both sides. I can imagine that clubs where people dance instantly get very physical whereas I would normally get into an intense long drunk conversat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 11:59 AM
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What was so horrible about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 06:26 AM
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Women, by and large, didn’t want jobs. They still don’t . Look at how many women flip to the SAHM desire right around 30. And you link to some random woman complaining online? How many women want to flip to SAHM really, I don't know any? The fact that people, male and female, often aren't very satisfied with their jobs and complain about their jobs doesn't mean they want the SAHM alternative - most people would be happy to be rich enough to not have to work or to choose what to do. Not many peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 06:12 AM
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It can make you happy but that's not the topic exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 03:42 PM
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I was never interested in any of these things either BUT I cared about being seen as naturally beautiful. I never tied what you call performative femininity to natural beauty - the idea is to look like you don't care, but still be really beautiful. I can say my mood is very much tied to feeling attractive (and more attractive than others, I have that horrible competitiveness in me) while at the same time I am also totally disinterested in high maintenance rituals, because I don't associate that …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 07:47 AM
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For example, Clare and Dale from the bachelor. He broke up with Clare and based of his social media didn’t seem like he cared too much. Clare was suffering. As she started to move on, Dale posted how much he has been suffering and even started crying on Instagram. Unsure if he made the right decisions How can you consider anything from a reality show to be real lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 06:47 AM
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I'm not from US so we have a different attitude about money and paid schooling (being rich isn't tied with being educated here and our intellectuals often see the rich as trash class) but I think for people it's more about a set of attitudes and conversation you can have with the other person than money/degree. But a set of beliefs and worldview an urban university graduate has are usually not matched by someone who isn't also educated (with some exceptions). Simply, being religious, not having …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 06:40 AM
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Family matters (at least blood) but family is still other people. Their lives are their own. Your life is your own
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 06:24 AM
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". i dont perceive my life "as a woman" just seems like more tranny ideation from men Well that too lol. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 03:05 PM
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Oh god that's so not any kind of fulfillment for women. Its what guys with unfulfilled female partners tell themselves lol. It's the stereotypical unfulfilled resentful woman you're describing who will then look for fulfillment in another man who convinces her shes special
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 03:05 PM
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It's awful and I will kill anyone who tries it but of course its sexual (not sexy, but as in, the person who does it is motivated by the need to touch you) unless its little kids or some of those very touchy feely people with the same gender. To be fair if another girl tickled me I would feel its inappropriate, let alone a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 07:47 AM
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Women I know geek out about things... more than men (but it could be just exposure) On the other hand most people's jobs are not a great topic or their main interest in life. They are geeks about other stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:09 AM
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I think it's essentially a fantasy coming from the same place but women just make that transfer from wishing she was the protagonist in her violent and murderous scenarios to wishing she was with the man who does it, where he becomes the tool through which she accomplishes the same with a level of separation
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 05:35 PM
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Everyone has a dark side and most people think they are more extraordinary than those around them. People watch movies or read books with characters who are extraordinary and often that is accomplished through evil, and on a basic level feel connection and sympathy as if they also have the ability to do these things locked in them. (To elaborate, many people cant identify with real life super talent because they simply lack that talent. But the ability to destroy seems like someone everyone can …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 04:10 PM
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No, I wouldn't. I am not from US, you'd probably call me a socialist. Especially considering we will all get old one day and no one can predict the type of situation we will be in, even if you lack human decency and mercy it is in everyone's self interest to support senior welfare, decent pensions and support systems and even euthanasia when required (when the patient wants it).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 06:58 AM
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I definitely am a spoiled person with options! So? Everyone should be. Why would anyone purposefully give up those options and have it rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 06:38 AM
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I just don't see how being forced to share the best decades of your life with a person you don't love, the burden and emptiness of it, can even begin to excuse the possible need to have someone around in a crucial moment when you're old and sick - an alarm or a roommate at that point in time make more sense. I agree that lonely elderly reflect a very sad reality but the irony is that they belong to generations that mostly were married and have families. So what happens - partners still die at di…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 06:37 AM
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And your spouse could have been elsewhere in that moment too. There are many ways that you keep people around if you like without being married to them, including having a roommate or for older people, those medical alarms. Really doesnt justify loveless marriage In the end maybe it's better dying since at some point you will then spending decades so close to someone you're not really in love with hoping that they'll help in a case of emergency... There really isn't any common ground, and b is m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 06:11 AM
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It could have a been a neighbour or a friend. Simply having the presence of a human being there in some crucial moment at the end of your miserable life doesnt really make up for the fact your life was ruined to be with them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 05:57 AM
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I cant think of being more jaded towards the opposite gender than if your life is interrupted to marry with one and you have to suffer forced intimacy and act a certain way with them, have sex with them etc instead of live your own life. Death sounds more appealing. All I can think of is festering hatred
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 05:56 AM
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