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I used to laugh things off a lot, and still do at times, but I have found the best method is to make them uncomfortable. When someone says something to you that you don't like, confront them immediately about it to make them feel stupid for even making a negative comment towards you. Most people don't like conflict so will apologize or try to deescelate in some way which makes you in control at that point.
/r/askTRP02/07/20 06:19 PM
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Ok. I feel bad for the person who comes to you and you say "just go off yourself dude, it's no big deal" Disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 03:37 PM
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It still is an act of cowardice to kill yourself rather than trying to fix yourself or the world around you in 99.99999999999999999999999999999% of situations. People have lived in worse conditions for thousands of years. I still think that suicide itself is a pathetic and selfish act. Does it mean the individual was a bad person? No. I still can respect the individual for who they were, but that doesn't mean that the act itself is something to admire in any way. Honestly, too many people are in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 03:10 PM
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Ok dude. I've had a friend and several acquaintances who killed themselves. They really didn't have the best reason to other than stress. Many people have problems that are objectively much worse than what theirs were. I'm not going to advocate that someone should selfishly go off themselves. Most people have more people who care about them than they think. I know that many people have severe problems but almost none of them warrant killing yourself. Your argument about suicide from poor living …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 02:49 PM
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This is just kind of the reality from working with different people and seeing the social dynamics. Maybe, what issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 02:26 PM
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If you have no family / support AT ALL, or you can only look forward to daily pain / suffering or deterioration, then that's not quitting or giving up, and you're simply projecting your own 'man up' nonsense beliefs from your own narrow, foolish and ignorant perspective. I'm not sure how saying suicide is quitting/giving up is narrow, ignorant, or foolish. Someone should go get help if they are in such a terrible situation/mental health. Suicide is not "manly" or cool in any way...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 02:23 PM
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I'm just saying there is bias that treats women as valuable. Denying the bias is bizarre and against reality. Women just have men do all the work to keep their hands clean. They want all of the resources, but don't want their hands dirty. It turns out this relatively safe world was built with a lot of atrocities.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 06:03 PM
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TBH, any time that a woman has an issue I think of it as a bigger issue just because it is happening to women. It doesn't matter if I or another man has any personal stake in trying to have sex with her. There is just this feeling of it being a bigger problem. Like, a woman is upset someone was mean to her at work? Everyone gives her sympathy. A man in the same scenario? People (including myself) look at him like he's a bitch. I'm not sure how you are so blind to this type of a thing. I feel it …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 05:48 PM
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That's not true. Men are taught from a young age that they should die protecting a woman. It has nothing to do with whether or not the woman has any sexual value to him. If a ship goes down and there is only one life boat, it would be filled with women/children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 05:29 PM
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That's true, but I think most decent people will help elderly individuals regardless of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:46 PM
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Hmmm, that's a bit valid, but still pretty weak. Killing yourself is quitting/giving up which is inherently weak. It's definitely not manly at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:11 PM
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You said "no one will give a fuck about you", a common refrain that terrifies the very masculineTM men who weaponize "man up!" against other men. So what if no one gives a fuck about you? A real man can handle death alone. No need to torment men with that thought and have them make a rash decision rushing into a marriage just to ward off that possibility. I mean, it's good to know that no one cares about you. It's not really a big deal, but it is part of life. It's part of shedding away a nasty …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:09 PM
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How is dying by your own hand honorable?... It has nothing to do with being scared. It has to do with living the most satisfying life possible. You have some very odd feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 03:42 PM
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Yeah, I can agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 03:39 PM
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This is pretty true. That's why it is nice to have family when you get old. Otherwise, no one will give a fuck about you. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 03:17 PM
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It has to do with the inherent value of a male vs female. Females always have value no matter what, while people only see males as having value whenever they are high status, fun to be around, or provide some other service. If a male brings nothing to the table, no one wants to be around him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 02:49 PM
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I'll do yard work, fix issues with house/remodel, help out with the kids, and maybe help with some other random stuff. If I made enough money, I would probably just hire someone to clean my house weekly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 11:44 PM
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I expect my wife to cook, clean, and raise children well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 08:29 PM
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I actually think that the average slut is a little below average. This is because some women are actually unable to get commitment so have no choice but to be sluts or go without love/sex. It's only a minor difference between slut and non slut tho because many just choose to be sluts 4 fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 04:28 AM
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Interesting. I'm not a fan of the disrespectful TRP dating strategies, but there is a lot of truth in what they talk about. EDIT: The feminists just seem to hate men a lot and don't listen to any type of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 04:15 AM
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Hmmm, I think like less than a month? EDIT: I've also only really used Reddit for less than a month...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 12:27 AM
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Thanks bro, I was actually asking her tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 12:16 AM
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Lol. Do you attribute it directly to this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 12:06 AM
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AskFeminism, FDS, and the chromosome one were enough to show me. Most feminists aren't actually TOO bad on this sub tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:57 PM
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I haven't changed a ton, but I've been exposed to how toxic feminism is... lol. I never knew how terrible they were before coming here TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:44 PM
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Of course. It's about averages. There are always outliers, but in general, a guy will be capable of getting a more attractive wife by having higher status and higher income. In this study, it shows that the more educated a woman is, the more likely she is to choose a husband who earns more money than her. https://ifstudies.org/blog/better-educated-women-still-prefer-higher-earning-husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 06:00 PM
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Well, I guess your experiences don't match up with mine. I've seen young attractive women choose older men enough to show that it is a thing. It rarely happens in reverse. Men and women make the same where I am from as well, but women still want a man who makes more than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 04:32 PM
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I'm not denying that women have been treated badly in many occasions, but so have men. Men have always been disposable, it was just different roles. You can't blame an entire sex for everything as if women have been stupid/weak throughout history. Women benefited from gender roles in many ways. You just focus on the bad side of humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 02:56 PM
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Yes, they become more psychically attractive due to improved social skills and confidence. Looks don't really matter all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 01:26 PM
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I understand what you are saying, but the truth is that this woman is showing mental instability. Why would she take the high risk that comes along with sex? Does she value herself so low as to just give it away? These traits are not good for a mother or wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 03:12 AM
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I mean, it definitely varies a lot from person to person. Men do seem to have more potential to be high value into their 40s although it is rare. Sorry, I was talking more of the peak. The peak for a woman is in her 20s and for a man it's around 30 IMO. Beyond that, people start losing value unless the man moves up in status a lot. However, a high status man who is 30 is a lot more attractive than a high status man who is 45 or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 09:04 PM
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That study is a bit misleading. It only includes parents who have their child living with them at home. Of course raising a child is stressful and causes some problems, but it's an investment. The whole study also seems to have a major agenda of proving that additional benefits should be provided by the government to help out parents. A lot of the pay off occurs whenever the kids are successful on their own. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2213655-having-kids-makes-you-happier-but-only-when…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 09:00 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean? Are you saying that most guys on this sub believe that a 40-60 year old man is as attractive as a 20-30 year old man? I see most people talking about the wall for a man being around 30 and for women is lower 20s. This seems fair in a lot of ways because many attractive young women actually choose men 10 years older than them... So, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:52 PM
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I made a poll here: https://www.reddit.com/r/polls/comments/gt05n4/question_for_women_do_you_prefer_guys_with_long/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:34 PM
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children equates to happiness and fulfillment despite extensive research indicating that to be untrue. What research have you read that indicates this? I read an academic article that had a study of married European couples which showed the opposite. It said that couples with children were happier on average and that the difference in happiness actually widened as the age went up. The exception in the study was for people who lived in poverty. I'd have to find the paper again. EDIT: Found the ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:23 PM
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As a man, I don't care too much about eye color. I may have a slight preference for brown although mine are green.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:14 PM
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This is the feeling I've gotten from a lot of women when talking about men's hair. It seems to be mostly commented on in negative ways rather than positively.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:13 PM
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How long of hair do you like? Like, do you legitimately think most men would look better in your eyes if they had hair that went below their shoulders?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:11 PM
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If we could make polls on PPD, we could answer this. lol https://chataboutyou.com/long-hair-or-short-hair-men-women Out of 1000 women, apparently only 8% preferred long hair while 48% preferred short. I guess the rest didn't care. I'm not sure if I agree that most women find long hair attractive. They may have seen it on attractive guys, so they find them attractive regardless of their hair, but that does not mean that the hair itself adds any attractiveness to the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 06:52 PM
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I don't really have any other criticisms. It's just my opinion. It has also been cited over ten times more than the other one. When presented with two opinions, I choose to believe the one that seems to have a stronger basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 05:18 PM
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I said they aren't biased against feminism. If anything, they probably favor feminism. I agree that it has been a while and the research is subjective in some ways. I would be interesting to see other stuff, but there really isn't much research to look at. As far as the article you gave, it could have merit. However, it just doesn't seem very thorough when compared with the one that I shared. It was short and written by a single professor and appears to be based on a single, separate dataset. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 04:11 PM
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I can't access that article. I can only read the abstract. EDIT: In the paper I looked at, their numbers were significant. It wasn't a tiny difference that would be chalked up to chance. It's possible that their process was messed up somehow though. They don't really seem to be biased against feminism because in their conclusion they pretty much blame everything but that. EDIT2: They used a lot of data in their research and they found the same trend across all industrialized countries that data …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 02:52 PM
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Haha. Yeah, most research is probably fake in a lot of ways, but this one is pretty exhaustive and done by professors who seem to be smart. I'm not really sure about the one that says single women are happier. I honestly find it hard to believe... but you never know. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 12:41 PM
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Where are the inconsistencies? The ones that claim women are happier are all fake/shody feminist manipulation of numbers. At least the ones that I have seen that make the claims. https://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/pol.1.2.190
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 12:21 PM
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I know, I know. I should have said since the 70s. Back then, women were happier than men, but no longer apparently. It's a pretty significant difference. https://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/pol.1.2.190
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 12:20 PM
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This is ridiculous. Women are already the least happy that they have ever been. Why would you want to create this imbalance that would probably make them more unhappy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 05:36 AM
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The last three points are because many men take care of women. High status women benefit from this type of culture because they are free to pursue their passions without having to worry about making enough money. Men are frequently happy to allow their wife to stay home to raise the kids. On the other hand, the majority of women are not happy to let the man do the same. This is a type of freedom that high status women have. I'm talking in the context of UMC individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 10:46 PM
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Yeah, it kind of baffles me because I've seen so many families where women arguably have more power in the home. From the way some talk about it, there's a giant men's conference where we all get together and decide to figure out ways to maintain power over women. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:46 PM
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I think the question is whether showing vulnerability and being openly introspective about oneself makes you weak. I've always felt it takes enormous strength to show your vulnerabilities and I have purposefully sought out men who do so. I'm a straight woman, and I love it when my boyfriend shows his tender side. He always tells his male friends he loves them, gives people hugs, treats everyone with respect, and talks with me about his struggles and insecurities, sometimes even crying if it's so…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 08:58 PM
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Sure, but it goes beyond the inherent biological differences. It also affects the ways that society will treat him, his ability to obtain gainful employment, and his ability to be successful in relationships. I don't want my kid to be depressed or have other mental issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 08:46 PM
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You represent an extremely biased view very well. lol. It's a world of extremes that people see in America which is perpetuated by both sides of the media.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 06:44 PM
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I kind of agree with what you are saying. However, there is an argument that women are more violent because they are like 10x more likely to physically assault someone in my personal experiences. Whether punching, throwing objects, or scratching, it's still assault. Men are less likely to be violent, but when they are violent it is more severe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:56 PM
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I mean sure, but in essence they are good qualities to have because you can't expect other people to care about you. People are inherently selfish. Violence can be ok in certain circumstances, but it is a last resort. Thirst is just pretty bad overall. Sure, it can motivate, but thirsty people lose out in long run due to lack of self control. You're basically just saying everything is bad in extremes which is obviously true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:49 PM
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Ok, sure, but you said that you shouldn't force a person into a box. I'm saying forcing a child into a box does work. Also, these immigrants seem to maintain stronger traditional family structures for the most part. Middle eastern families are close to the same. The problem is that media is never focused on men and how they should behave. They often portray men as being stupid, self deprecating, violent, and lazy. As a parent, I NEED to teach him to be emotionally strong, competitive, value inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:37 PM
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Sure, if my son says his dream is something stupid, I will push him the other way though. It could backfire, but it's my job as an adult/parent to set him on the best path to my knowledge because he is only a child. Why do you think asian immigrants are so successful in the US? It's because they do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:17 PM
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Violence and thirst are pretty universally bad IMO. Competitiveness and ambition should be pushed on boys. It helps them succeed in a harsh world. Of course taken too far, it could be unhealthy. I just think they are more important for a man in society. Pretty much all of the female behaviors mentioned should be taught to everyone in different degrees. Social dexterity, empathy, and nurturing are all universally good IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:14 PM
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So, you should leave it up to our fucked up media to decide on what a child should act like? lol. It's parents' job to guide their children. If they don't, someone else will.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:09 PM
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If we could make polls on PPD, we could answer this. lol https://chataboutyou.com/long-hair-or-short-hair-men-women Out of 1000 women, apparently only 8% preferred long hair while 48% preferred short. I guess the rest didn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:06 PM
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Which parts? Masculinity has many definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:00 PM
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Well, I would never bank on my son having a decent life without a promising career like I would for a daughter. I don't want my son to end up committing crime, committing suicide or shooting up a school due to deep mental issues/depression. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:59 PM
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So, would you be willing to take care of a man who makes 20k a year or doesn't work, but treats you very well? The answer for most is no. You may be an anomaly which is cool. However, you must understand that you are not the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:49 PM
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No, because then he will end up being depressed. It's for his own good that he must understand the realities of the world. Men and women universally do not respect weak men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:35 PM
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Telling men that they are allowed to be weak is stupid. It will fuck their lives up. Men MUST be strong or they essentially fail in life. Women can afford to be weak and get by because men will take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:30 PM
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I would probably encourage my son to be more assertive because his life essentially depends on it. A man who fails in his career is useless to society and no one cares about him. I guess I would encourage my daughter to be assertive in ways as well, but more of for her own protection. I think a daughter is a lot more free to just pursue whatever she is passionate about without ever having to really worry about much else and be happy. I would rely on my wife to teach her critical woman things. As…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:27 PM
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Yep, but men and women are different and the majority of women want men who act like men. Trying to get boys to not act like men is an extreme disservice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 03:59 PM
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Look up redlining, blockbusting, restricted covenants, Jim Crow, egal sanction of lynching, grandfather clauses, sundown towns, federally subsidized whites only suburbs, sentencing disparity between crack and cocaine, Indian removal act, trail of tears, page act, Chinese exclusion act, the day law, Jesus I could go all day. I'm talking about pre-US. I wholeheartedly believe in racism and that African Americans have been held back since slavery, but what about all of the countries in different pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 03:56 PM
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TBH, I misworded my answer. I only remember girls talking this way in high school who were acquaintances. Other people who act like this are from social media or political figures. I wouldn't ever hang out with anyone who sat around complaining about gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 03:40 PM
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Do you think young boys and girls should be treated the same or differently? Different, because there are real differences between the sexes. Should gender differences be purposefully encouraged to be greater or lesser? I think boys should be encouraged more to act like men, but I don't think there should be some kind of massive propaganda nonsense. Parents should teach their kids these things. What would cause a new generation of boys and girls to grow up to be able to get along better with eac…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 03:37 PM
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I think this is true in a lot of countries, but not in the US. I'm not sure what data looks like for other countries. Anyone can get a chance at college in the US if they don't want to go to the most prestigious universities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 03:26 PM
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Does this take account of the general increase of population over time? It's based on percentages, so it does take the population into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 03:00 PM
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Yep, some people don't even recognize this. All through the education system you are taught that you should feel guilty for being born a certain way. Why should a child feel guilty about anything? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 02:36 PM
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Ok, I guess you know different people, but women who are advantaged do not see themselves as advantaged. They still play a victim card because of the "patriarchy" despite being better off than the vast majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 02:33 PM
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I agree that it can be a privilege that is hard to quantify. I would also argue that the media which is consumed in much greater quantities than history nullifies some of this. I don't know what you mean about their contributions being because they held other races/sexes back. Like, the world was pretty separate whenever they were ahead of other regions in many ways. It's pretty subjective what cultures are "better", but I prefer the west. All this is more about race than gender though IMO and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 02:24 PM
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There probably is, but women frequently don't acknowledge that they have privilege in many ways. Every woman thinks that their life would be amazing if they were born a man. They don't look at all of the men with shitty lives. They look at the top 10% and believe that they would be like them for some delusional reason. I've heard women talk in this way on many occasions. I'm not saying that men have no privilege, but there are plenty of men with less privilege than many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:43 AM
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I guess that's possible, but people literally laugh about the BS they have to write in their papers in order to get A's. You literally have to feed them back all of the nonsense that has very little scientific evidence or else they will give you a bad grade. It's funny that this is necessary when trying to write a college level paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:31 AM
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I forgot college. In college, everything is fine as long as you avoid the social science areas from my experience. Every man I know agrees that the professors in those areas just fuck you over because you are a man and blatantly hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:07 AM
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It's longer than a day most of the time I think and I agree that it deters nothing. The kid just gets fucked over. Also, the kid doesn't give a fuck because he/she is young.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 03:54 AM
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I mean, I have no idea about how to prevent school shootings, but I'm not convinced that suspension helps anything. I know the zero tolerance policy was supposed to help with school shootings. However, it seems to have hurt minority students a lot. I was talking more of the increase in suspensions in general. It's been going up steadily since the 80s/90s according to the link (it has dropped of some in the last several years though). I would guess that this disproportionally affects boys and min…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 03:34 AM
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I'm not really sure if it is even that schools are "hostile" towards boys/men, but the media is as a whole. There are special interest groups (relevant ones) for every group except for boys. It makes a child feel kind of weird. Something I remember overhearing as a kid was teacher who was a woman complaining about how men are portrayed as being stupid in the media so frequently. It seems pretty common to make fun of the arrogant masculine man who is an idiot while the smart woman plays him along…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 03:01 AM
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So you are saying that because men don't take care of themselves they shouldn't expect a woman to take care of themselves? I mean, it makes sense but there is no incentive because women will have sex with men regardless. I'm not really sure that your point makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 09:51 PM
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No? Like, what do you think men should do to take care of themselves? Most women do not want a man who takes better care of his skin and other things than they do. Also, women vary wildly on what they think is attractive. Men are much more universal about physical appearances.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 09:23 PM
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Little girls who act like prostitutes. Grown women want a man, not a little boy. EDIT: If a man is trying to attract teenagers, then it might work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 09:13 PM
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What's lazy? lol. It doesn't benefit men to put on facial creams and style their hair every day. Also, the type of woman that most men want to attract would think you were gay if you went too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 09:11 PM
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From my experience, foreign women seem to like American men regardless. Why would American men waste time on appearance when it has such diminishing returns beyond basic care? I dunno what guys you hang around with, but the ones that I know shower, brush their teeth, use deodorant, don't wear completely shitty clothes when they go out...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 09:07 PM
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I can agree with your sentiment that both genders have problems that the other has very little understanding of, but claiming they are equal is inaccurate. It's kind of subjective and based on the individual's desires and region they live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 04:24 PM
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If this is someone you met recently, why should they put effort in? If it is someone you've known for a while, but treats you poorly, then block them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 11:30 PM
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This is a really dumb question. Grown women do NOT want a man who spends as much time as them caring for their skin or appearance. That's why men don't do it. It's feminine and stupid. Men already talk about exercise with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:22 PM
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Yeah, for sure. I wouldn't have driven to a sketchy area for it. Good luck with everything.
/r/askTRP25/05/20 08:49 PM
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It could be a robbery, but I've had women just tell me to come over and I've had a good time. It just all depends. It's best to be careful.
/r/askTRP25/05/20 08:43 PM
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So you think that there are essentially equal numbers of active men and active women on OLD? I kind of find this hard to believe from my experience (given that was a while ago). Sure, guys send out blanket likes and then don't respond to the ones that they find very unattractive, but women get messages from most men they match with from ones I've talked to. I've known people of both sexes that have done OLD, but decided to never actually meet up with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:18 PM
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You could say the same for women's accounts so that shouldn't really make a difference. You know men are active if you've ever talked to a woman who does OLD. Lol they get like a million messages. The evidence shows that just being above average isn't going to necessarily get their attention. You have an 8% better chance at getting a short conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:40 PM
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As everyone thinks probably wasn't the best wording. It's more that they are not as hypergamous as many on PPD say they are. You should also take into account that there are 4 times as many men on dating apps which should logically lead to hypergamy. However, these statistics don't really show an overwhelming rate of average women choosing above average men to speak with. IMO, this shows that women aren't really that hypergamous. If you have 10 girls message you, you would probably big an above …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:53 PM
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There are a lot of unclear things about this study. It would be more significant if it showed who actually met IRL, but this still shows that women aren't quite as hypergamous as everyone thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 01:49 PM
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There are still way more men than women on them. I would say that this study only shows a slight amount of hypergamy though. 58% chance of talking to an above average man is probably only because of the severe imbalance between the numbers of men/women. Aren't there like 4 times as many men on most dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 01:48 PM
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Very true. This is not supposed to focus on casual sex. From this, we have no idea who ended up having sex and who didn't, but if someone is willing to exchange 5 messages, there's a decent chance that they are willing to meet IMO. Probably somewhere around 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 01:45 PM
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I know I know. If you listen to some people, they make it seem like every woman only talks with the top 20% of guys though. Surely some of these average men are getting it in. Also, who is to say that the 58% of average women talking to above average guys are getting anything from "Chad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 01:44 PM
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True, but it looks like an average man has a 50/50 shot of talking with a higher tier woman if he is a message sender. That's exactly what the odds should be if you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:40 AM
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These numbers don't look as bad as incels make them seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:19 AM
2

Don't some men also have unrealistic fantasies?
/r/askTRP24/05/20 02:45 AM
1

I said in a work situation that those options aren't really possible. I agree it could be useful in some professional situations.
/r/askTRP24/05/20 02:30 AM
1

I agree that people will talk bad about you at some point for sure. However, in most situations, I would advocate either cutting that person off or confronting them directly. I can see how maybe in a work situation that these options would not work. Maybe it could be useful if you were trying to get someone fired. At the same time, if someone is talking bad about you and it is not true, people will see that it is not true and said individual will just look stupid. To each their own though. I sti…
/r/askTRP24/05/20 01:54 AM
1

Can you explain why learning to talk bad about people behind their backs is useful? Men do it all the time, but it's not really masculine unless you would also say it to their face. It is weak and normally unneeded. I'm not saying to lie about someone, but just avoid bringing it up because it normally makes people just sound negative.
/r/askTRP24/05/20 12:50 AM
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I normally avoid complaining about people. I think it is kind of feminine and can make you seem negative. The exception for me is if it is the person is such a pain or so weird that it is really funny.
/r/askTRP23/05/20 11:51 PM
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You could stop reading stories about guys banging women, find things in your life that make you happy, or just go have sex yourself.
/r/askTRP23/05/20 10:20 PM
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It's possible, but I would say that most businesses still don't want that and it is reasonable for them to not want their business associated with porn. EDIT: That's not even considering the fact that the pic was taken at work, probably during working hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:07 PM
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You think it is inappropriate to fire someone who took nude pics at work in their work uniform and posted them on the internet? lol. Why would any reasonable company want their employees doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:00 PM
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If you want to know what women are looking for, then you should probably go to the red pill. Only you can know what type of woman you want. As for the age, I think your range seems pretty normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 10:26 PM
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Yep, I've known so many people that had 3 divorces. Those types of people make the divorce rate go up like crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 07:18 PM
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What makes you think it will stay at 50%? Dude, it's not near 50%. I'm saying we are nowhere near the majority of people choosing to not get married. It will never even hit 50% in my lifetime, let alone go past that number. No idea what the actual number is, different sources give different numbers. Some say 50%, some 53%, some 49%, maybe there is one saying 39% the number is always somewhere around 50%. And that's absolutely not what I call a low divorce rate number. 50% is old numbers. It's go…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 04:42 PM
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Marriage rates are already at an all time low withe the amount of people over 30 never having been married constantly rising. People in the future are absolutely not gonna still get married. Marriage is declining and will keep doing so, especially in the next generations. https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/09/24/record-share-of-americans-have-never-married/ Sure, marriage is going down. However, this is a long way from 50% and I don't see it going past 50% in yours or my lifetime. Divorce rate…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 04:25 PM
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Will most people still get married or will there be large amounts of single men/women into old age? Most people will still get married, but there will probably be more people who grow old being single than past generations due to poor gender relations and demonization of genders. Will there be more divorces? More cheating? This seems kind of doubtful since divorce rates have been going down. It seems like people are being pickier about who they marry because of the high divorce rates of previous…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 04:10 PM
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Yeah dude, I wouldn't show up. These "friends" probably don't like you. IMO, it's time to find different friends. I would never leave a friend out because he was "too attractive." That seems extremely selfish and probably inaccurate.
/r/askTRP21/05/20 09:21 PM
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This ranges from backlash from the community, to being fired from his job, or even threat of government force against you. I think this is the key. Men feel like they are under attack for just existing while others can openly attack men. This probably causes some built up anger because they can't express their opinion about anything without being yelled at about not knowing what it is like because you are too privileged to understand anything. In today's world, women have more freedom than men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 05:49 PM
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Same in the US. People just think that college is the best option. The truth is that trade school graduates earn more than most college graduates these days and is a lot cheaper. As for Europe, it also completely depends on the country. I've known people from Italy who said that an education is pretty much useless most of the time because you'll end up getting paid like shit anyways. They worked retail and had a higher salary than their friends who went to college. Everyone's situation is differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 02:16 PM
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https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/11/gender-education-gap/546677/ I went to college, but statistics tell a different story. Only about 32.5% of men have a bachelor's degree who are between age 25-29 yo. So, sure, more do pursue it, but the ones who drop out don't really follow the script. They failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 02:07 PM
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Can you explain what is wrong with the current script? I mean, it's not like the majority of young men even follow that path. That's the path for a middle class or upper class man. I'm not sure how this script screws over young men. The culture screws over some young men because it pushes them to act in unmasculine ways. However, everyone's experience is different and plenty of people follow the script successfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:57 PM
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Personally, I think you are overreacting unless there are other issues with her. She had one outburst and then apologized? I'm not really sure what the big deal is unless it's repeated behavior.
/r/askTRP21/05/20 03:54 AM
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I don't have anything scientific, but from personal experience it most frequently comes from other men. However, when it does come from a woman, it means about 100 times more than from a man. If a bunch of men told me that I'm weak for not acting in a certain way or whatever, it doesn't mean too much. On the other hand, if a woman that you like tells you that you aren't a man, it would hurt way more and be more likely to be effective. Summary, men do it more frequently, but women actually have m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:59 PM
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Yeah, I guess you could still call it stoic, but it isn't really masculine and shows weakness. I was just describing the way the OPS scenario. I'm aware of toxic masculinity but am not sure if it really applies here. Many women display this type of behavior. I can't tell you the number of women I have seen handle emotions by clearly being upset, but staying quiet and pulling away. Also, I don't really see being masculine as toxic. Someone has to hold themselves together and get shit done if time…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 04:10 AM
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Upper 20s, Merrrica and it would be an issue if my wife didn't take my last name. I think having the same last name makes us family. :) Also, a man who would take a woman's last name is a bitch. I'm not sure why any self respecting man would do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 02:44 AM
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I think you are completely misinterpreting this. She is complaining because the man does not know how to handle his emotions. Becoming quiet and withdrawn is not stoic or handling emotions well. It's blatantly showing that you are upset and can't move through the emotions easily. A stoic man would not give indications of being upset at all. Maybe she would rather have him talk about them, but in reality she would probably prefer that there is no evidence of him being upset at all or that he disp…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 11:07 PM
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The average woman is no more boring than the average man. There are more extremely interesting men than extremely interesting women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 11:01 PM
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I think when people say this, it may mean what you describe. However, in implementation, it can be completely different. Looking at "lesser" guys could open up a woman to meet an individual that they legitimately enjoy spending time with and may develop an attraction for. If attraction doesn't develop, then it wasn't meant to happen and the woman should move on. The same applies for men. People continually downplay the attraction from personality and commitment on this sub. In my opinion, it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 09:55 PM
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https://www.psypost.org/2020/05/men-incorrectly-believe-their-female-partners-would-be-okay-with-them-having-a-futuristic-sex-robot-56759 I think it was actually a real study, but I didn't read the study so who knows? I just read the article. I left the debate pretty open intentionally. I didn't even put my own opinion in the OP. I wanted people to state their own ideas about the findings and see if the community had the same trends as what seemed to be indicated by the research that the article…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 07:18 PM
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I can agree with your opinion because I don't think that having a fancy masturbation toy will cure the loneliness that people feel. It might be fun to fuck a sex robot, but I probably never would even if they were available.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 07:11 PM
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Yeah, the survey was just an attempt to break down the differences between men and women and how they feel about sex robots. I'm sure most people actually don't care, because I personally also don't care. I'm unlikely to ever use one even if they existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 07:08 PM
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The point is that it doesn't matter the number of people who don't care. If 350 million people don't care who the president is, they won't vote and potentially just 10 million make the decision. It's the same with pretty much every issue. It seems kind of useless to discuss a topic with someone who legitimately doesn't care one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:54 PM
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Ok. Thanks. Polls are so much fun though. :'( lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:48 PM
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Will polls never be allowed? Like, if someone wanted to create a poll, could they contact the mods and ask permission for a specific one? It seemed like the post I made had a lot of discussion and had a high percentage of upvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:43 PM
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Maybe I was making too big of an assumption, but I was assuming that futuristic sex robots would be available for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:24 PM
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That could have been useful information, but I was trying to keep the number of options down. Here is a cooking robot that my wife really wants: Thermomix I guess it is replaces a lot of appliances people have in their kitchen and makes cooking easier. It's pretty pricey though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:22 PM
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Yeah, I guess so. The number of neutral people don't really matter though, so if they don't select anything, then there votes aren't counted. If they think about it and make a choice, then that is their opinion. I kind of find that knowing the number of neutral people is pointless. Do we show the number of neutral votes in presidential elections?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:16 PM
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Yeah, someone like you should just not respond or choose what you think is best for the world. Doesn't really matter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:13 PM
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Thank you for giving your opinion. It makes a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:12 PM
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I mean, the fact that it is "scientific" is pretty sarcastic. I'm not trying to trick anyone. I honestly have no agenda with making this poll. I literally only did it because I was bored. lol. I just theorized that it could help out men who are alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:09 PM
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What I mostly mean is that someone most likely would not pay 10k-20k or whatever it would cost to have a robot that folds laundry. Many tasks that robots don't already exist for are harder to automate which means the solutions are more costly. However, I believe some people would buy realistic sex robots even if they are 100k+.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:05 PM
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Hahahaha. This may be a reality one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:03 PM
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Seriously? Is it written in the rules? :(
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:02 PM
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I think you are probably right about overestimating the influence of sex robots. It most likely won't change much at all either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:00 PM
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Sorry, I used the wrong words. If an individual does not care, then they could think about the way it would affect the world. If they do care, then they can determine for themselves whether their own desires are more important than the affects of the world or if their desire is the same as what would be best for the world. It's just a simple choice. If you can't figure out what you think should happen, then don't answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:37 PM
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Yep, I wonder if it will happen in our lifetime. It seems really far off, but you never know. Economic collapse would severely hinder the progress. Many companies still choose to increase cheap labor over investing in expensive automation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:32 PM
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A robot that folds laundry would be pretty nice. However, from my experience with robots, it seems unlikely that it will ever be affordable for the average person to have robots capable of performing every menial task. The price tag will just be too high. At least in my lifetime. The truth is that people are just willing to pay more for a high functioning sex robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:29 PM
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Well, that's for the people to decide through this poll. If people think it would help, then they select that they want them. If not, they select no. If you don't think it would help, then pick that you don't want sex robots. IMO, it would help them have more satisfying masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:24 PM
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Ok, but for a poll, you have to limit choices. If you legitimately can't make a choice, then just don't vote. lol. I dunno what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:20 PM
1

You make a pretty valid point. Why not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:18 PM
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Thank you for the well written opinion. I agree. This is why it is extremely important that these robots cost a lot of coin and are charged as a subscription service or require expensive maintenance. Otherwise, men would become lazy after they purchased the robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:18 PM
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I mean, then go with your gut. I guess it depends on where you place your individual happiness compared to that of the rest of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:14 PM
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Lol. That is a beautiful photo of happy people together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:12 PM
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I completely agree. I can't imagine anything realistic coming around in my lifetime, but who knows? Like you said, maybe if the world made a collaborative effort, progress could be made faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:11 PM
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It could help MGTOW and incels though?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:10 PM
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Nope. You can't be indecisive. You have to look deep inside of yourself to think if the world would be a better or worse place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:09 PM
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I think whoever invites the other one on the date should be the one to pay for the meal. If I invite someone to go out to dinner, I would expect to pay. If you can't afford to buy your date lunch/dinner, then you probably shouldn't ask them to go with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 02:07 PM
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Yeah, the only time it would ever be worth it to fight back is if your life is legitimately at risk. Otherwise, just try to avoid getting harmed. If the police show up, it's going to be you going to jail and charged with a crime most likely.
/r/askTRP18/05/20 05:07 PM
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Should you? No, unless you wanna end up in jail. Does she deserve it? Yes. lol
/r/askTRP18/05/20 05:02 PM
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https://www.esquire.com/uk/life/news/a17209/women-happier-uglier-men/ From my experience, women typically choose less attractive partners for LTR. They only look for Chad when it comes to casual sex for the most part. It makes them uncomfortable when their man is legitimately better looking than them. I mean, I'm definitely uglier than my wife and other people I know are on average uglier than their wives/gfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 04:05 PM
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Well, life is always a learning experience. One problem gets solved and another one pops up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 12:25 AM
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How did you get better looking and what new problems did it start?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 12:12 AM
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Yeah, I kind of agree with a lot of what you said. A mother can also be forced to pay child support if she loses custody, which is probably extremely rare though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 12:10 AM
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I'm still not understanding how the law is a problem if they stay and parent. If they leave, they are placing all of the expenses on the mother alone so they need to pay child support. If they stay, they don't pay child support? I don't disagree with your first paragraph as long as both play equal roles in the additional labor to take care of a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 11:15 PM
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Who's supposed to pay for the kid? I don't get your point. They can still get forced to pay support whether or not they run. I find it hard to believe that most of these men are willing to stay and parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 10:58 PM
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Sorry. I was being a little sarcastic. I think there are actually a decent number of Beckys that don't even have sex THAT much. They may have done it a couple times, but they don't like getting pump and dumped all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 10:54 PM
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I was actually just trying to look up some of the statistics because I'm not sure what they look like when you control for socioeconomic status. I thought for some reason that poor white people are just as bad about a lot of this stuff. The numbers I found show 65% of black kids being in single parent homes. https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by-race#detailed/1/any/false/37,871,870,573,869,36,868,867,133,38/10,11,9,12,1,185,13/432,431 To me, it se…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 10:41 PM
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I hope your experience goes better, but I really don't think being 5'5" is a sexual death sentence. You probably won't get Stacy, but Becky is running around somewhere fucking Chad right now. lol. Seriously though, some women don't care as much or will accept you for having a good, masculine, fun personality. Just look for women who are close to 5'2" or 5'3". Look for Filipino women. They're shorter than that. You'd probably be tall if you went to their country.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 10:20 PM
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I mean, I'm a white man and I don't really like talking about entire groups like black men or black women having the same traits. It does kind of seem like black women get shafted. TBH though, black women are more respectable because it seems like they do all the work to keep the roof over their heads and their kids fed. The men have a tendency to run off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 10:15 PM
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Why do you want casual sex so bad? Just find someone for a relationship. I think fewer women are seeking casual sex than who are seeking a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 10:09 PM
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Who is (((them)))? I mean, I would say feminists would like the traditional family to be broken apart. Feminism was started by the patriarchy though, so who knows what the goals were? I would imagine the goal was to fuck as many women as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 10:04 PM
1

You left a lot out in your conspiracy. Who is spreading the propaganda? China? Russia? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 09:53 PM
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80% of women chase after the top 20% of men I mean, maybe for casual sex? There's no way this is true for relationships because I've heard of women literally breaking up with guys due to the guy being out of their league. Lol. I was being a little sarcastic. Thinking that society will turn into a matriarchy is stupid. It's just as dumb as blaming every issue on the patriarchy. Men and women are codependent and always have been. I think feminism has damaged a lot of stuff, but feminism has also l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 09:43 PM
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I dunno what to tell you. I've met guys who are 5'2" and have great relationships. I also don't really think it is a huge anomaly. Very small frame, probably pretty average looking faces. I just don't know why such a strong focus is on looks for incels. It's almost always social skills. In my life, the only people I've met who were "incels" were men who literally didn't do shit with their lives. Hypergamy is exaggerated. Maybe women will run society? If they do, so what? It's more likely that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 08:21 PM
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I agree about height, skeleton, and genetics. However, your shoulder width can be improved by adding muscle. Also, you are ignoring what I said about incels not actively trying to improve themselves. 28% of men shouldn't be "incels." It's literally because they choose to not even try at anything. Maybe 1% are legitimately incapable of finding a partner. IDK though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 06:26 PM
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Evidence that there is a clear REQUIREMENT? And exercising changes some of your body structure. I really am not sure that it is as important as you make it seem. I still hold what I said about incels. If you justify making zero effort by saying no woman will want you due to your body, you are just playing into your belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 05:52 PM
1

My bad. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 04:30 PM
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I can agree that the inability to find relationships probably shows a bit of a mental issue. However, normal people do also discuss dating strategies, so I'm not sure what your point with was on that one. Maybe people don't discuss it if they've never tried to hook up randomly and have always organically found relationships? I highly doubt this is truly the "norm" though. How old are you and are you male/female? I'm sure it is more common for men to look up dating strategies and for younger peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 01:47 PM
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Anyone can work to improve themself in different ways. I've known incels and I really don't think they ever put a large amount of effort into getting laid. Do you know a lot of incels who work hard to improve their personalities, build social circles, and actively pursue ALL women, even if the woman is not attractive? This would be an EXTREME anomaly IMO. I would feel a lot of empathy for someone like that, but I feel like that is a very low percentage of incels and would mostly be made up of pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 01:21 PM
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I could agree with that. It all depends though. I would say a religious man is probably more likely to volunteer to help out society than a non religious man. The other things is that an alpha convinces others that his views are correct so that they follow him. It should probably take minimal effort, but it still requires something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 01:12 PM
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Plenty of them are fine with you just being straight forward about your intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 04:36 AM
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Oh, I didn't read everything. It seems like he's into some kind of dom/sub lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 03:44 AM
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Lol. How is that even alpha though? If you are so alpha/king, you should have been able to make it clear that she is just a FWB or side hoe, whatever she actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 03:40 AM
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What if they like that? Some men like weird shit like that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 03:38 AM
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I mean, I couldn't really give a shit about that, but if you give off intentions of a relationship to pump and dump women, it's kind of pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 03:14 AM
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Sure, it doesn't mean you aren't a fagget though. I don't really respect people who intentionally hurt others for their own gain. There is nothing alpha or masculine about intentionally hurting women physically or emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:52 AM
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Rollo seems like a douche. It's only responsible to tell men to treat women well if you are going to teach men how to be more attractive for the purpose of having casual sex with women. Who would want to create a group of selfish fuck heads?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 01:40 AM
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I didn't say incels are terrible people. I've known incels and they literally didn't do anything to help themselves get laid. Maybe I don't know enough incels. Do you know a lot of incels who work hard to improve their personalities, build social circles, and actively pursue ALL women, even if the woman is not attractive? This would be an EXTREME anomaly IMO. I would feel a lot of empathy for someone like that, but I feel like that is a very low percentage of incels and would mostly be made up o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 12:42 AM
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TheRedPill insist there is a clear definition of what constitutes an attractive man's behavior, or "alpha behavior". They believe there is a series of attitudes and personal traits that make a man universally desired by everyone at the same time. I'm not a Red Piller, but I believe in most of the concepts. "alpha behavior" can be implemented in many different ways that provide a variety of men who are all alpha. In my experience and in my view, there is no such thing like an universal personalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 11:13 PM
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Yes, absolutely. The man wasn't an incel and probably put at least a minimum effort into attracting them. My point is that incels don't put effort into attracting the bottom 28% of women. They probably act like the woman would be lucky to get their attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 11:08 PM
7

Thanks for the good explanation. I was like, "What the fuck is solipsism?" I have observed this, but never read about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 11:05 PM
1

This is true, but the “completely unnattractive” men are their looksmatch. Why would they give a looksmatch casual sex whenever they have better options? Makes no sense. Any evidence to support that? All we know is that the bottom % of women are having more sex than corresponding bottom % of men, which means they are sharing the men above their league. Remember the sexlessness spike happened between 2008 and 2018, right when OLD and tinder took a foothold. Are you implying that these new incels …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:48 PM
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Ok. That's why I mentioned that women have more access to casual sex with "Chads." This makes them choose casual sex over a man who is completely unattractive. Also, I don't even believe that incels put in any effort to be attractive or impress a woman who is in the bottom 28%. They look at the woman as unattractive so just think that by being "equal" the woman should chase after them or something. They're still women and the man would have to act alpha, make them feel desired, or add something …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:36 PM
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I don't know of evidence to support either option. My personal experience tells me that someone isn't going to want a relationship with someone who is completely unattractive to them though. They have to provide something. Also, I imagine most incels rarely ever do anything. They probably just play video games and jack off, never going to social events or really going out of their way to look for the bottom 28% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:13 PM
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There’s a reason why the rate of sexlessness of men (28%) is larger than the sexlessness of women (18%). I mean, is there any evidence that these men actually want relationships with a severely obese woman? Or do they just want sex? If it is just sex, they could find a better looking guy without much effort most likely. Also, there's the whole thing that these men don't bring anything to the table for relationship value. Are they fun to be around? Good looking? Have money? If they don't add anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:50 PM
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I think this is partially true, but I doubt incels are chasing after 250 lb women? Just like incels see that woman as unfit for a relationship, the bottom 28% of women see those men as undateable. It could be looks, personality, socioeconomic status, etc. EDIT: If it's about casual sex, then the fact that they could get it from a much more attractive man comes into play. AKA Chad. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:33 PM
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I know men pressure women into sex more frequently. I was just sharing my experiences and wanted to hear other's experiences. After reading everything that people wrote, I agree with you that it is about emotional maturity. I think men just face rejection from an earlier age on average so have accepted it, where women mostly face sexual rejection in their first serious LTR, maybe a year in or so. Who knows though? It's obviously different for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:18 PM
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I think some women place all the pressure on the man in bed. Maybe some men do the same thing? I'm not sure. I've liked a balanced level of effort. I don't think a woman being good in bed has a drastic effect on her relationship value. If I wouldn't date her initially, being good in bed wouldn't change my mind. lol. It would be more likely to be a FWB though. EDIT: Something else to consider is that the first time you have sex with someone could very likely be the worst time. The more times you …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 07:08 PM
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First off, I like Jeff Bezos and think he is a genius who has improved the lives of many people. I don't think he mistreats his workers at all. The truth is that Amazon employees get a pretty large amount of benefits and decent salaries for the work they do. He has also eliminated so many inefficiencies and made the best online retail experience for the buyers. He understands that helping customers helps his business. Secondly, I do think the rich have a responsibility to help other people and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 06:58 PM
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True. From my experiences, men figure it out in their early 20s. Before I was ever exposed to any type of dating tactics, discussions took place that reflected Red Pill or PUA tactics. It's obvious that women don't respect "nice guys."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 06:09 PM
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That's pretty logical and normal. I don't think most people would want to be bothered while they are actively focused on grocery shopping or doing some kind of errand unless the individual bothering them is extremely attractive and they are available. I mean, I would be annoyed if random very unattractive women continually approached me when I'm trying to do something (even if I was single).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 06:06 PM
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I completely agree with you. Even the naturally alpha, good looking men I've known understand the realities of dating. The fact is that looks is a smaller factor for women, so when dating, men slowly understand what things turn women on or off. I'm not really sure the guy who has it super easy would naturally be blue pilled. This seems like a very delusional man. Maybe a very low IQ man would be like this? EDIT: Evidence of looks not being everything is the fact of what women actually tell you. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 04:10 PM
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Personally, I would prefer the one who deliberately sought out casual sex a few times because she was not in a relationship rather than the one that is unstable and can't be alone. It still kinda depends to what extent. Like, a different man every weekend? I wouldn't prefer someone like that. I'm assuming the love addict has sex immediately and probably a lot of short relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:42 PM
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I did not cover every scenario. Lol. It's not like guys have some number in their head for the max n count allowed. That's why I said someone who seeks out casual sex as being bad. If it was a frequent occurrence, it's a turn off for me. The main point I was making is that a woman who sticks with LTRs vs random sex is probably a lot safer bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:26 PM
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I mean, if you interpret every post that way? The post is clearly about the ways men and women handle rejection, mostly in relationships. I guess you only read the title?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:17 PM
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I agree with you. I was discussing the pure version of what it means to be alpha. Your definition is the real and practical implementation of being alpha IMO. There isn't room in the world for people who want to be alpha at the expense of others and it is often stupid to be alpha in various scenarios. Kudos to you and thank you for your service.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 03:28 AM
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Do you believe being compliant and doing every stupid thing that the drill sergeants tell you to do in bootcamp is alpha? I agree that they tell you to follow the law and code, but part of the code is to always listen to your superior as long as it is a lawful given order. To me, this essentially makes you a beta if you are fully compliant. Smart, but still beta behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:55 AM
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I mean, I have never randomly approached women in public because of #metoo and "toxic masculinity," but I have heard women complain that they don't get approached before. I guess to each their own. They judge on appearance initially, but most men go with personality after a certain bar is met in their mind. That is just my objective opinion though. How would they know without talking to you if you are in an LTR, interested, or have things in common? What if your normal social group/gatherings/wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:47 AM
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How do you plan to meet Mr. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:23 AM
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I have no idea about the odds of a prostitute being forced into a job or not. I'm sure it has happened at some point though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:12 AM
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Chad doesn't need to approach women because women approach him. Also, Chad has no problem approaching women because they will always suck his dick in the nearest restroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:01 AM
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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 01:38 AM
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Rosie Riveter started in 1940. Although the women's suffrage movement definitely started before then, it is very likely that corporations pushed 1st and 2nd wave feminism pretty hard. I'm not sure how that has anything to do with the freedom of sex movement though. I can't confirm or deny that marketing pushed that one forward because that is a much more touchy subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 01:34 AM
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True, I believe that I don't actually know what happened and the winners write history. The media is clearly controlled by the winners. Hate is way too strong of a word. I don't necessarily like those type of people, but I don't hate them. I definitely don't hate Chad. Ultra liberal professors at universities? I think some of them are pretty bad people to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 01:29 AM
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You're probably right. It's really hard to know though because the media is all biased. Chad could have created it in his lab and then found random mothers in the 1800s to push the movement. lol So, this still would show that it was only pushed by marketing and not started there...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 01:15 AM
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Oh man, I can't imagine the man hours wasted at companies on sexual harassment training. I've wasted days of my own life on it so multiply that by millions I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 01:13 AM
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I'm married, but I wouldn't really approach women in public before marriage because so many women complain about it and seem to actively discourage it. I would only talk if the conversation somehow happened organically. It legitimately was mostly from the large amount of man hate. It's hilarious when complain that men don't approach. Some women also brag about how mean they are when they reject men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 01:08 AM
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That's basically what I was about to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 01:03 AM
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It's already started. All the major tech companies are pretty much nazis.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:58 AM
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lol, I'm not arguing about the fact that marketers sometimes use marketing to promote social movements. I'm saying that they attach themselves with existing movements. The fact that feminism started long before your examples of pushing women to work shows that the social movement already existed. I don't really know what the point is in looking at marketing coursework that talks about marketing many years later to promote the agenda. I'm not arguing with your ability to market. I'm arguing about…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:57 AM
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Probably won't go seek that out, but thanks. The reason your idea is wrong is because the roots of feminism started long before that. At best, marketers capitalized on the preexisting movement. None of your comments prove anything other than them propagating a preexisting social movement. Why would I read a textbook that talks about marketing to social movements? That's already a well understood idea that companies are still doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:43 AM
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Good luck telling modern women that. They all want alphas. Betas are becoming red pilled and either won't marry or are going their own way because they realised modern women don't want them, nor do women appreciate what betas do for them. I mean, it's not about truly being a "beta" to the woman, but if you act delusionally alpha, the woman will think you're an idiot and you won't have a gf eventually. I don't think a bit of weakness to your woman is bad if you are very alpha in other ways that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:37 AM
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They're starting to legislating the long and winding list of verboten "hate speech" now. Add the word "-phobia" to any group, and voila. Hate speech. Prime Monster Justin Trudeau has just implement what amounts to an illegal gun grab in Canada (he's a dictator with a minority government) and his next goal? He's going to get rid of all of the Hate Speech off of the internet and social media. Vans parked outside homes anyone? Neighbors turning in neighbors for saying Verboten things? I'll be an ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:29 AM
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I'm talking about the context of the US as my example showed. I'm well aware that dictators have and still essentially have harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:24 AM
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Lol. I'm literally just asking if you have any sources that say feminism was promoted by corporations before universities. I don't wear any special t-shirts or hats because I think it is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:22 AM
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Actually, your explanation makes a lot of sense for how the message got out. Thanks. So, you don't think it started in universities though? EDIT: This was still well after the movement started so still doesn't really show that the corporations "started" feminism for their own gain, but instead capitalized on an existing movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:20 AM
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I mean, nothing about presenting a slightly different than the average family and showing them with appliances is controversial? Maybe it was more common for average people to live with extended family, but I'm not really sure why that would matter to anyone. It was only natural that as wealth grew and people moved away from farms that more people would have their own homes. I just find it more likely that feminism was pushed in colleges so when people graduated, they may have pushed their agend…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:16 AM
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Do you know if women actually invented feminism? I honestly have no clue about its beginnings. Corporations pushing feminism to increase cheap labor makes a ton of sense and is why I've argued it has disproportionately helped the wealthy. Yeah, rich/elite men have always gotten laid, but if a country is extremely religious, it does limit the full potential since a woman's value for marriage is so dependents on n count. I find it hard to believe that famous people banged as many women in the US p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:01 AM
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I'm not saying that marketing couldn't have helped push the propaganda forward after the propaganda already has a hold. I'm simply saying that marketers have no interest in pissing off their customer base over any social movement. If they didn't think it would sell shit, they wouldn't waste money on ads. EDIT: I agree with your tangential comment though. People find partners in their cause and convince them that it is a good one to push it forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 11:39 PM
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Any evidence that "nuclear families" didn't exist pre marketing? Or was it that marketers used their existence to sell products? As for modern feminism, I'm not sure if there is evidence to support a push from marketers rather than a push from universities or others first. It seems like the main push for feminism comes from universities and marketers simply adapted to the new trend. EDIT: IMO, marketers don't push unpopular agenda, they push what is already accepted by their target customers. At…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 11:18 PM
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Yes, I know. It kind of went on an offshoot. Sex gives a reward to the brain which is to promote reproduction. This means that if he does not get this, it is very hard to be mentally healthy due to missing out on a major goal in life. EDIT: Being upset for not hooking up is just one force that drives people to their goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 11:12 PM
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You're right. That probably isn't a correct claim. There are many reasons that aren't necessarily mental health related that could cause people to avoid reproduction. Unideal conditions (untrustworthy partner, financial concerns, etc.) Negative view of the world can play a role which is mental health in a way I'm sure there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment. Also, I meant animals that aren't humans, which there may be outliers. I'm honestly not really sure and don't feel like r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 11:03 PM
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I honestly can't tell from your first two paragraphs what you believe in. It seems like a lot of sarcasm, but there isn't anything that says what you really believe. lol. I don't follow any of the pills, but from what I have read, I would probably most closely align with red pill. As for the conspiracies, I don't typically believe in any although some may have a little merit. Like, I honestly believe that sociologists at universities would cover up negative side effects of feminism because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:47 PM
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Yeah, it's not like you're automatically an alpha because you choose to be religious, but there also is nothing necessarily beta about it. IMO, the typical agnostic or atheist has a stronger tendency to be beta because he doesn't develop a strong set of standards that he adheres to. If you don't believe in any cause, then it is hard to be alpha. Believing in your own cause that you literally invented is still probably the most alpha, but it is also stupid IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:28 PM
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I agree with you. I think it may be more important for women, but men want to be desired as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:56 PM
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It is true. No matter who started any movement, there were many bystanders or other people who pushed it forward that can be blamed because they were too stupid to recognize consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:42 PM
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Lol. It's men and women's fault. I don't really think a gender should shoulder all the blame. I just made up a likely scenario based on who would have the most to gain from feminism. How do you think the damaging ideology started? I mean, the only group that has legitimately benefited is lesbians so I guess it could have been them who initially started it. I don't have anything against lesbians, they can be free to do whatever they want, but they are probably the only group that has become happi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:40 PM
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I mean, humans are definitely complex creatures, but a combination of history, biology, psychology, and sociology is the best way to explain the realities that exist. I guess it's way smarter to say "muh I don't understand anything in the world"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:32 PM
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The process of anthropomorphising inanimate things begins by assuming those inanimate things have plans, thoughts or goals. One might say that some chair hunts your feet if you stub your toe onto it one time too many. But the chair doesn't actually think, or have plans. Humans however are so well adapted to treating things as having plans and thinking that we assign those attributes to pretty much anything. Animals with brains are essentially chairs. Got it. Your argument is too strong to reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:30 PM
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Lol. No. I'm saying that as a whole, human's goals are to survive and reproduction is part of survival. I'm not really sure how this is such an "out there" opinion. Every animal tries to survive. No mentally healthy animal intentionally avoids reproduction and survival. They would only do this if conditions were not ideal for reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:23 PM
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You're right about being alpha is essentially imposing your views on other people. I was responding to the OP who said the christianity is beta. Alpha and beta are relative terms so I asked the OP what lifestyle he was considering to be alpha when compared with christianity. Chaste is alpha if it is part of your set of values. It's not alpha if you do it because someone told you to and that is the only reason. Having no system of values/morals/codes/teachings/politics is beta to someone who has …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:21 PM
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Lol. Wow, I guess maybe there is something backing it up? I guess it isn't really hard to believe the "great thinkers" would have pushed it as they do now in colleges. I think it is really hard to find evidence for who initially founded stuff like this because feminism is so mainstream. People look at the internet as a free place, but google chooses what links are going to pop up and which won't. People who research sociology would never get hired by colleges if they didn't support feminism. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:13 PM
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Honestly, it's impossible to know which side has the strongest effect on human's nature because they are inseparable. I kind of feel like instincts developed out of necessity and were further enforced by cultures because people are smart. Who knows though?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:10 PM
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It's not necessary. Your comment is assuming that the difference is all based on sociology and not biology. I'm just pointing out that it's not necessarily true to purely attribute it to that. Humans have much more flexibility in their desires and social structures than other animals do due to their high intelligence and lower instincts. However, there still are instincts that exist, so ignoring them doesn't give a full picture of human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:17 PM
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I agree. Context is everything. Would it be alpha to walk up to a cartel leader's wife and flirt with her? Yes, but it would probably be very stupid because he most likely has the power to have you tortured to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:12 PM
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Ok? I'm not sure how it is worship. I'm not sure how you can logically say that living organisms don't have a goal of reproducing. Animals die for it and go through great hardships for it. It's the same in people. You're not really making much of an argument. Do you not consider survival a biological goal? How do you interpret the desire to reproduce and live?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:11 PM
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Ok, your point is valid. I would argue though that the reason they want this is because it is the closest thing to what their evolutionary goal is. Sex without reproduction is a new phenomenon thanks to birth control. They are able to simulate their goals being met without having the responsibility that goes with it so they choose a more selfish approach a lot of time IMO. However, men I know in relationships still want kids (including myself). I can't speak for every man though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:08 PM
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Not true. Healthy men recognize the need for a mother in a child's life. Why would he want to raise a motherless child? Why would he believe that he is capable of providing a good life for a child by himself? There is a division of responsibilities when it comes to a family. He would be stupid to put himself in that position intentionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:48 PM
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IMO, yes. To be completely alpha would be really stupid. Even animals know when to stop being alpha. Dogs might all attempt to be the pack leader, but when they see that another dog has better leadership skills, they defer the responsibility to said dog. Trying to be a full alpha is a useless pursuit and others would recognize your stupidity because they aren't stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:46 PM
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Do you have any evidence to support that they had easier access to harems before feminism? In the US, I don't really see that as being nearly as easy before feminism. Women used to be highly encouraged to be monogamous and not have sex outside of marriage which would have made it hard to find women to give up their value just to get a fuck out of a high value man. If women were known to have been promiscuous, their marriage prospects would have dropped significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:37 PM
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Yeah, they pay for sex because it gives a mental high. This seems like a gross misconception that men don't pay for babies. They actually pay wayyyy more money for babies than sex. How many men fork over huge amounts of money to get a good wife and then pay for her to stay at home to be a mother? The price is much higher in this relationship so I'm not sure how you could say that they don't pay for babies. Beta men pay for sex, good alpha men always pay to have a family. There are obviously good…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:33 PM
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I know what the Alt-Right contingent of the Red Pill would have to say... Lol. Who is the Alt-right contingent of the Red Pill? I literally just made this up after reading his post. I acknowledged to others that the grand conspiracy probably didn't happen and a more logical explanation is many selfish men initially promoting it without there being collaboration necessarily. More selfish men probably saw personal advantages as the ideology progressed though. I'm not anti-Semitic at all. I think r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:26 PM
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I actually only read part of your post. lol. It was TLDR. I agree that most men are massive betas, but I'm not sure that it is negative. The thing about society is that there is only room for so many alphas. People are smart, so they know that being alpha is not always the best strategy for survival or to get what they want. This causes them to act like betas. Also, since men are naturally meant to protect women and children, it would only make sense that they are beta to their woman in some way…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:20 PM
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Sure, anyone can set their own goals in life. I don't think someone setting their personal life goal as reproduction is even a healthy goal. It probably isn't and it certainly isn't mine. However, objectively it is the purpose of someone being alive. People are extremely complex animals, but it does not change the fact that we are still animals and we have biological objectives. Objectively, it is hard to deny the fact that the average human's most satisfying goal IS reproduction and relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:10 PM
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Where did I say that it was objectively good? I simply said that it is what it is. It's not something that is easily changed. Part of survival is reproduction. Unless you are religious, how can you see other goals? The funniest thing is that I'm not even an evolutionist. Clearly there are large levels of microevolution that are observable, but beyond that I don't know. I don't take evolution as a guide to my life in any way, but whenever you look at statistics for human happiness and other obser…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:53 PM
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Has your view been changed? You initially said that women are responsible. If you believe men are naturally the leaders, then how can you defer blame to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:43 PM
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Pretty much yes. Individual selfishness led to negative effects for both men and women. "war against the patriarchy" is just the name it was given so that women would feel empowered. In reality it is war against nature and what makes both sexes the most happy. The sexes were always meant to help each other and be codependent. The nonsense of we vs them is a phenomenon that is damaging. EDIT: How many times have humans created things that hurt themselves? It repeats itself over and over again. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:41 PM
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How can you know this? How can you separate the brain/hormones from social conditioning?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:38 PM
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Then why are men who only pursue casual sex less happy? That does not indicate any design of only pursuing sex. If your assumptions were correct, the happiest men would be those who have massive amounts of casual sex which does not represent reality. Do you know people who have tons of casual sex? I can say without a doubt that men in good marriages/LTRs were happier than people I know who just fucked like a revolving door. There are even studies that prove this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:33 PM
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Having children isn't as big of a deal because the happiness from sex is the brains incentive to reproduce and just jerking it really isn't the same. No no no. This wouldn't work at all. The evolutionary way to ensure reproduction is the brain's reward for having sex. The offspring aren't really as important, but I would say that having children is probably extremely satisfying. I would also say that having 100 partners is not necessarily satisfying because your brain knows that you aren't raisi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:20 PM
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Yep, it runs about as deep as it does in gorillas.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:15 PM
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And I don't doubt that some men thought that way, but that still doesn't make them primarily responsible for the proliferation today. This Chad conspiracy idea is kinda loopy tbh lol Lol. I know. I just made it up after I read your question and it sounded interesting. She is a lesbian I think and her relationship is purely political. I mean, there are plenty of examples of rich cheater's wives staying with them. This is just an example I could think of off the top of my head. If you are someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:13 PM
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I guess it could be uncomfortable because we are extremely intelligent beings. However, we are still animals and if you look at the lives of every animal species, their goals are essentially to survive and reproduce. Everything they do is for that purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:04 PM
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Lol. A vast conspiracy that Chad did this is more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:02 PM
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You could be right. It was definitely pushed by some men who wanted access to a lot of women initially. Women have actually been slut shaming each other forever because of fear that they would lose their men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:01 PM
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Most men "at the top" are married and don't engage in harems. This is true to a degree, but how many powerful people cheat? Would cheating be as accessible if the old strict morals were in place? Think of all the politicians, pro athletes, musicians, and others who live extremely promiscuous lives. Many of their significant others even accept it. Think of Bill Clinton. lol. His wife stayed with him. Who knows how many cheat and nobody knows about it because their significant others don't want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:00 PM
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I disagree. What you describe is being intelligent. A pure alpha is not a follower. He doesn't deliberately disagree for the sake of disagreeing, but the most alpha person is the one who chooses the paths that others follow because he/she chose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:51 PM
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Yes, it is that bad. The only clear goal in a human's life is to reproduce. Everything else is debatable. Having an inability to have sex is the same is losing your evolutionary goal. Having children isn't as big of a deal because the happiness from sex is the brains incentive to reproduce and just jerking it really isn't the same. I tried to find studies that link this with depression, but couldn't find any statistics at all. However, I did find a study which indicates that casual sex isn't a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:47 PM
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What if it was actually the men at the top who wanted this to happen so help pushed the feminist agenda? They didn't like the setup because they wanted the ability to essentially have harems. People are selfish so they wouldn't have even considered the fact that it would damage others. Imagine that these men pushed this agenda as being empowering for women. The fact that it was sold as being "empowering" meant that it would be very easy for a woman to buy into. They look at the world and see it …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:37 PM
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Yep, this indicates that monogamy is probably the best strategy so that everyone has someone. Otherwise society lacks stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:32 PM
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Yep, no different than politics really. Whether you watch fox news and call liberals "libtards" or watch CNN/MSNBC and think every conservative is racist/sexist/degenerate. The idea behind it is to completely invalidate the other sides opinions rather than compromise. I still don't think that these "mainstream" extremes represents the average person. There is a higher number of extremists, but most people still understand a degree of moderate approach. Extremism just involves more emotions/anger…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:30 PM
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You make a good point about submitting to the dominant society. This partially depends on age and who is around you though. If everyone else is rebelling against the "dominant society," how are you alpha by simply going along with them? You can be alpha with or without religion. My main point was that being religious doesn't really force you to be beta in any way. I would actually argue that the average religious man is probably more alpha than the average agnostic/atheist man because of their r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:25 PM
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I mean, I didn't say it was surprising. I said it was funny. I agree that currently the average person from both genders actually kind of sucks. Oh yes, that is the major problem with TRP IMO. They criticize women for acting in certain ways, but then advocate acting in the ways that will only reaffirm the FDS belief. Both FDS and TRP are somewhat hating of the opposite sex in implementation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:35 PM
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To me, this indicates the fact that men are meant to die earlier. They've always been the ones sent to war and the ones who give up their lives if the choice is between the man or woman. It only biologically makes sense that more of them would be born or there would be a large excess of females. Maybe that's why more men become mentally ill and kill themselves? Who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:30 PM
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I actually disagree that being christian itself is beta. What alternative are you comparing it to? Someone who holds to a firm and rigid set of beliefs that they enforce on themselves and impose on others is mostly alpha. Especially since said set of beliefs came from God. Compare this with somebody who doesn't have any rigid set of moral beliefs and doesn't care what anyone else does. That's mostly beta. Waiting for sex because it fits in with YOUR values is less beta than waiting for sex becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:26 PM
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Who needs prostitutes? What people really need is AI powered sex robots like on Westworld (except slightly less human like). Pros: No prostitutes get murdered Young women aren't forced into prostitution Men fulfill their wildest fantasies and no more "incels" Cons: Maybe feeling more lethargic due to loneliness and lack of purpose? No need to make money after you purchased sex robot In order to fix the last con, just make the robots coin operated or a subscription type service so that no men eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:17 PM
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Yes, of course. Failing is not alpha. However, if he was like, "fuck you, I'm not going to run because I don't want to," that would be partially alpha IMO of being alpha. It's all how it is framed. If he was able to get followers to also say fuck the regulations, he would be even more alpha. EDIT: Listening to someone else and doing what they tell you to is full on beta behavior. 100% of the time. To be alpha you have to twist it into your own idea or change it. You always have to be the person …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:57 PM
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You make a really good point about submitting to higher authorities. It is very alpha in the way that God is not a man so the submission is not as "weak" as submitting to a manager at work or a friend in a group. Essentially, this can be a cop out to say, "fuck off, I only listen to God." Another point I completely missed on my first response is that by being a missionary or evangelist, you are essentially making your life goal to impose your views on others. Even at churches, men argue about in…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:46 PM
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True, it is more about being a leader and taking responsibility I would say? Not going with the flow is part of it though. In the Bootcamp scenario, whoever is chosen as the leader is probably the most alpha if people listen to him. However, someone could not fit in and still be alpha. If he stood by his views and did his own shit or argued about different ways to do things, he would be more alpha than all of the people perfectly following what they were told to do. He would still be less alpha …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:33 PM
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By this logic, wouldn't being a serious TRPer make you a full on beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:18 PM
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If I was just on PPD, I would think that most TRPers don't completely understand AWALT. However, that may not be reality. I dunno because I've never been on the TRP sub. My point wasn't about the core values of TRP, but more about the actual implementation of it. In this sub, all of my comments are about relationship value, not human value. lol. Human value is kind of pointless to talk about in the relationship context, otherwise people think they are "owed" a good partner because they are a goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:12 PM
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I think it leans toward beta behavior because it creates a more stable society. You can't have every man acting like a full alpha or chaos would ensue. However, I think it could also be alpha in a lot of ways if a man embraced the morals and firmly stood by them because he would essentially be going his own way against the crowd. Isn't alpha mostly about not being a follower? In today's world, being religious could be viewed as not being a follower since most people are more atheistic or agnosti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:07 PM
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I think a long term relationship is a near need for long term mental health. There may be ways to replace it, but I see it as unlikely because people are less part of their communities than ever. The way that I see a long term relationship being replaced would be with having an extremely well bonded social circle who basically all thinks the same way as you so will not be in a LTR. Maybe accepting to just have a lot of friends could allow a satisfying life? I think people would tend to look at o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:52 PM
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Yeah, the more I think about it, this is probably a scenario that plays out mostly when a woman is in her first "real" relationship. Like either living with someone else or spending massive amounts of time with them to the point where the guy may not feel like it 100% of the time. A more experienced woman would probably understand this reality and not really be as upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:46 PM
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Lol. Won't happen for men or women until they get really desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:42 PM
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For me, it depends how intoxicated and how tired. I think "whiskey dick" can be a reality for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:37 PM
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I mean, ok. lol. Were you agreeing that AWALT can lead to difficulties in finding relationships then? Also: no to this, but feel free to live in your angry and sad world if this is your experience with life. It's not an "absolute" truth, but I haven't known many men who didn't have some kind of bar they wouldn't go below when it comes to physical attraction. Do you deny that men have a bar for attractiveness? Maybe an asexual man is different? EDIT: I'm talking about in the context of dating/rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:35 PM
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My initial question is misleading. I put owed in quotes because obviously no one is owed it. It was more of who feels as though they are owed it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:30 PM
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This makes a lot of sense too. I feel that as a man, you get rejected early on so you have already gone through being pissed off about it. Most women probably aren't used to being rejected when it comes to sex, so it's like their first time and freak out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:28 PM
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Dude, you should probably become muslim and move to a muslim country. Your ideals would probably fit in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:26 PM
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Interesting, it seems like the "incomprehensible" may only apply when a man is completely deprived for long periods of time. IMO women are typically able to go longer periods without having too much problems where men make it their goal if deprived.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:24 PM
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Q4All - kinda? I mean everyone always talking about how men think about sex all day everyday, wanna fuck anything and everything, never reject sex. So in a way you do end up believing that whenever you want to have sex with a man, it’ll be very easy. Yep. I actually think men are much more likely to have sex if they don't feel like it whether in a relationship or not. It's almost like a duty. lol Q4W - I’ve had one relationship where this was a problem and I mean we went from banging like bunnie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:22 PM
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I wasn't even thinking about these circumstances, but this may be more frequent IMO. Like, when guys get drunk and are then unable to perform, I've noticed women's feelings seem hurt when it's really just the fact that the guy is fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:16 PM
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Lol, do you ever get rejected after paying a prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:14 PM
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Yeah, I agree with what you said. Since women do typically initiate less, it seems like they may be more upset when they get rejected whether in a relationship or outside of it. Well, initiation can vary a lot though. I've had relationships where early on the female initiates way more frequently than I would have and then others where I was always the initiator. In the first case it is weird because she asked, "how come you never initiate?" How is someone supposed to initiate when you initiate e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:12 PM
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guy say to you let's have sex, you say no, he says a lot of mean things to you. I'm definitely sure that this happens as well. In my head, this mostly would happen in either an abusive relationship or when a guy is trying to hook up who gets pissed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:08 PM
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Your answer is probably the closest to the accurate one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:00 PM
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I understand that being rejected is a reality for 99% of couples in LTRs and really isn't that big of a deal for most people unless it happens for long periods of time. I've had male friends describe it as scary to reject their gf. lol. I have also experienced similar experiences where even if I didn't really feel like having sex, I normally have because I didn't want their feelings to get hurt. My experience is that women on averaged do not accept it as the man being tired, already had too much…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:59 PM
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Yes, I agree with you that no one is "owed" anything. However, this was more about who "feels" like they are owed sex more. Feelings are different from logical beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:20 PM
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"women are utter worthless shit" How are men different? Men only care about women if they have a pretty face or good body.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:18 PM
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Yep. I think that their brain forces dampens the emotions down because of the extreme pain that was previously felt. It is easily explainable, but I doubt we know everything about it. It seems like TRPers believe all women are incapable of long term love. I know the initial strong puppy love always fades, but there is still love that sticks around. Whenever you always think of it as AWALT, it looks at a female as a robot or something. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:17 PM
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Yeah, it's really hard to say because things like tinder, instagram, and facebook would still be available. Maybe there would be more school shootings?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:13 PM
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Honestly, I don't like it either, but it's the easiest way to talk about dating. The fact is that some people are just in higher demand. Something that probably isn't emphasized enough is the fact that value can vary wildly between different people. People don't ALWAYS find the same characteristics attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:02 AM
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To me, looking reality in the face is being very careful when choosing the right person. You could still get fucked over, but you could also get fucked over by a random woman who tells you she's on birth control. It's just life and you can't worry about things out of your control. People aren't normally happy in platonic friendships. Eventually one will decide that it's a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:56 AM
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Banning porn wouldn't be practical unless prostitution was legalized. It would be too hard for all of the sexually repressed men to cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:41 AM
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I believe in love, but I think the reason others don't is because they loved someone who didn't love them back. This caused them to fall back on the purely scientific definition of love which has a formula and isn't special at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:54 AM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:08 AM
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You're still investing your time/effort... Also, sex is just sex. I'm not sure how old you are, but it's not the complete meaning of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:05 AM
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I think there are still women capable of devotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:00 AM
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I know my critique is not perfect because I am not a TRP expert. However, I believe that taking AWALT too serious can be damaging. If you believe this deep down, you would never be in a relationship. Like I said at the start though, I generally seem to agree with the TRP concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:57 AM
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I've had several friends that had girls on rotation who settled down. I've never had girls "on rotation," but I also wasn't incapable of finding casual sex whenever I went LTR. You do you though if it makes you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:49 AM
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Do you have any evidence to support this? I think the gen who gave birth to Boomers had the most kids, but I'm not sure about a grand conspiracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:47 PM
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Do you know of instances where a man was happy dedicating his entire romantic life to sex on rotation with no commitment? It seems like all the PUAs became unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:42 PM
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Lol. I give up. I think your best option is to be alone or gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:05 PM
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Why do you think every 🍎 is rotten when you can only see the ones on top? Can you explain in your own words?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 07:50 PM
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I never really criticized the core values of TRP. I'm trying to do a CMV by explaining that TRP has many problems with the way it is implemented. Finding TRP is one of the best things that can happen to a man. I could see how finding TRP could actually end up being bad for some men. Imagine a young impressionable man who buys into AWALT entirely and thinks nothing is more important than his own shit. He runs into a young woman who treats him extremely well and he fucks her brains out. Instead of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 07:10 PM
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Yeah dude, you gotta thinking about what apples you pick, why you picked that particular apple, what part of the apple you bit into, etc. There are numerous questions that could be asked which could assist you in having a better first bite out of the next apple. Statistically speaking, many of the apples are not bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 07:01 PM
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I'm just observing the world around me right now, marriages and LTR's past and present, including marriages that didn't divorce but probably should have. But can you know that they would be happier alone? Sure, there are some terrible marriages, but there are also many who stick it through and are probably better for it in the long run. Right, but for most people there should be some quantity of monkey-style fucking, ideally occurring occasionally for their entire adult life (or until the hormon…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:42 PM
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Oh yeah. I would love to see the statistics on how successful relationships are that started with one of the individuals cheating on their initial partner. Repeating is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:24 PM
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Which problem would that be? If you're referring to the sate of dating, I don't think that there is any saving that. To add to what you said though, TRP make sure that the women that they have sex with have an intensive to come back and so they treat them well. It may be hard to believe this after everything you hear about TRP men but men like this probably care a whole lot more about your orgasm than a non-TRP guy because they understand that women value these things. I am referring to the stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:21 PM
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That is the best approach for both sides IMO. All you can do it life is try to be the best you can and hope that you can find a partner who will also invest like you have. There's nothing wrong with holding out because everyone you find has numerous red flags though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:11 PM
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Do you have any evidence that the odds are worse? I've seen that the marriages ending in divorce are down to 39%. I agree that there never were guarantees and never will be, but it doesn't mean that you should just fuck like a monkey for the rest of your life. My point is that I find the general message to be good, but there is too much AWALT and negative messages. You should be aware of the risk, but not view it as insurmountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:08 PM
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I guess. It's a CMV so I am approaching the opposite side. lol. From my angle, it can be a circle jerk of crying that women are hypergamous and will leave you at the first chance at a "better" man so never attempt an LTR because AWALT. That's my main issue with it. The advice about how to attract women all seems solid though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:04 PM
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You are right about me not completely understanding it and that is why I said I didn't in the comment. Anyways, it still misses out on some of the evolutionary aspects of an LTR IMO and over emphasizes the fact that women will all cheat. Maybe that's not the "official doctrine," but it seems to be the implementation. How do you explain oneitis and women's falling in love with whoever takes their virginity? I honestly haven't really read about it, but it seems like that would indicate initial des…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 06:02 PM
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That's kind of the point of it. It avoids throwing away years of life together on a whim. It forces you to work shit out instead of just throwing it in the trash and leaving. Assuming that every relationship with a female will fail is a defeatist mentality. I think TRP exaggerates the idea that women will always leave you for someone "better."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:55 PM
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Yes, I completely agree. "Low value" just means that the opposite sex typically is not attracted to you. Just because you are ugly doesn't mean that you can never find someone who will be attracted to you though and there are ways you can improve yourself. There are plenty of people who are physically ugly and happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:53 PM
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I can understand this, but should it be used as validation? Also, doesn't the TRP pretty much advocate against LTRs because AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:48 PM
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A very key difference between FDS knowledge and TRP knowledge is that TRP teaches men to do things that women are actually attracted to, FDS promotes the opposite, or rather tells women to not feel as though they have to try. And I don't believe that TRP is out of hand at all, they have a lot more recent posts on masculinity than they do on women, let alone labelling women as sex objects. I don't follow TRP, so I can only go off of what I've seen on PPD. As far as things women are actually attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:13 PM
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Doesn't hypergamous just mean always trying to marry up in social status/wealth? I mean, that is pretty evident from everything you see in heterosexual relationships so I don't think anyone will deny that. It doesn't mean that if she is in a preexisting relationship she would abandon her husband for a "better" man at the first opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:59 PM
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Ok, you are making TRP out to be a battered men's group. I know terrible things happen to some men because I have seen it. However, I don't believe it is responsible to advocate this as the best option for all men. It's like women who have been abused circle jerking until they think all men are torturers and rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:53 PM
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So the solution is to never seek LTRs. /s That is a defeatist approach. Why not advocate prenups instead? Or attempt to decipher how some couples last and others don't? You do you. It isn't the dominant strategy though. Men who don't marry aren't happy in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:43 PM
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My argument to these points is that TRP simply provides knowledge. It doesn't encourage manipulation and it doesn't encourage viewing women as sex objects. I can agree that this does happen but it's not what TRP wants to push. Many men simply use TRP knowledge to maintain sexual attraction in a relationship and to hold frame. How is this different from FDS then? Strong red pillers should control the narrative. There are young men or dumb men who will not understand this if the sub is out of hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:38 PM
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Ok. I understand what you are saying now. What is your evidence that this is continually happening though? Do women cheat more than men? Why have divorce rates gone down if hypergamy is such a problem in LTRs? Sure, I'll acknowledge that women lose their desires for sex in monogamy, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are going to instantly go cheat on you. So, to actually answer your question, move on with your life. You had a failed relationship. What else can you do? You're a man so s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:29 PM
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That's odd. In the US, I have never been around females who said they found their gay friends attractive. They may give them compliments as friends, but the gay men have unattractive behavior for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:19 PM
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What you are saying is why I think Red Pill has problems. You don't believe it is possible to select a good wife despite divorce rates falling in recent years. Why do you assume that the woman you select will leave you? I'm not saying that there is no chance of it happening, but why can't you find someone that you trust? It's simple, red pill tells you to never trust women. The best outcome in life is to find a high value woman who supports your goals and you support hers, but red pill doesn't s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:14 PM
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You're probably right. The majority of couples find a balance or slowly resent each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:10 PM
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See, that is my point. The goal of TRP is just to fuck as many women as makes you happy, when most men are better off finding someone that they can love. Look at old people who followed this life style, none of them are happy. The best option is to secure the highest value female that you mesh with at a reasonable age and settle down. It's not easy, but simply attempting to manipulate women into fucking you for the rest of your life isn't going to really benefit you all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:07 PM
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I agree with lots of your critiques of PUA/TRP, because I have known men who I thought acted pretty stupid because they bought into it too much. I'm not sure if they were getting laid or not, but I thought they looked like fools. The best advice that is easily implemented are things that they say not to do. Things like simping or acting like a female is "the one" and no one else will ever match up. IMO, the best advice is to take what not to do from TRP and the self improvement stuff, then just …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:02 PM
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I believe red pill is better than the others I have seen, but I'll go ahead and argue against it anyways (please correct me if I'm misinterpreting the red pill). The Red Pill encourages men to manipulate women to get sex for validation. If you can't find validation without women, then you probably won't be validated just because you have a woman. The Red Pill looks at women as simply sex objects and nothing else. They don't give any value to a special woman so it would make it hard for a man who…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:34 PM
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I actually don't think we have that much of a difference of opinions. I find it crazy that people want to immediately put their kids on ADHD medicine as the first solution to a child not being able to sit still in class. I feel like they don't explore other options for ways to control it enough before just prescribing a kid drugs for life. I agree with everything you said. Here is one last thing that I found which shows women feel less happy on average than they did in the 1970s despite thinking…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:20 PM
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I still kind of disagree about the trades. Strength can help, but the majority of the time when someone is struggling in a situation like you mentioned is when they simply do not have the right tools. A professional has the right tools for each scenario to get better leverage or some type of mechanical advantage. Sometimes things like getting bolts off requires liquid wrench or an impact wrench. There are tools for everything. It's mostly in common household scenarios where you are forced to use…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:09 PM
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I wouldn't really care. However, like I saw others mention, if she watched porn and masturbated and denied sex, I would be annoyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:44 PM
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I have conflicting information that is from 2017. https://www.statista.com/statistics/241530/birth-rate-by-family-income-in-the-us/ The fact that trades are in such high demand is new due to just a huge imbalance of people choosing 4 year degrees. I'm well aware that they are actually better off than probably 80% of people who get a BS. Many people in those areas make surprising amounts of money. How are women locked out of those fields though? You don't have to be physically strong to be an ele…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:26 PM
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Yep, I'm sure it is way more common than you think because literally everyone that has slept with more than 2-3 women has probably experienced being asked this. If that is how many are straight forward enough to ask a guy they just met, then how many want it, but are too nervous to ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:56 PM
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I guess so. You could say to fight for better work from home and things like that will help. However, where does this leave the poor people? IMO, women's rights should probably go behind many other issues that are more pressing. Poor people still have 3, 4, 5 kids on a consistent basis. I would argue that the larger workforce has partially contributed to poor people having harder lives. Having both men and women going to college and being more successful when they come from already well off fami…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:53 PM
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Probably 50% of women? I dunno. Every guy who has had a sex life seems to have experience it being asked for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:42 PM
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I think your entire view is flawed. When have people really ever been allowed to "be themselves" and also be successful? I typically see the argument of not wanting to change from someone who is just using it as a crutch because they are scared. Has anyone ever said before a job interview, "If I can't get this job by being myself, then I don't want it." Maybe if you already have a good job, but if you don't, you are going to try to essentially manipulate them into hiring you if you want the job.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:40 PM
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Fucking Chad ruins everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:51 AM
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Lol. The horror of not fucking Chad. It's truly unfathomable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:35 AM
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You are probably right. Most men don't befriend women for friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:10 AM
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Yeah, I can see your point, but as a man it isn't a healthy relationship because the man will always be hoping for a chance deep down and it's torture. If the man knows that he isn't ok with just a friendship, it is better to end it in order to avoid future complications.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:54 AM
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I hold by the initial statement even though men obviously have problems as well. Reddit users give a skewed view of what men want (including me) because they do tend to overplay sex a lot when in reality, after they are in healthy relationships, it is not all about sex. I think it may be that it is masculine for men to act like it was just for the fuck or whatever and downplay emotions. When I think about my friends from high school, 3/5 best ones are married or in a very long LTR where they liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:49 AM
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Some guys are legitimately friends with girls. I don't see how it is wrong for a man to end a friendship that he knows will bother him over time because he wants more though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:30 AM
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Things like this can really only get worse for the one who likes the other one. It's an unfortunate situation that happens all too frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:01 AM
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As a man, it is hard to believe most women don't like that type of porn since it is essentially all they ever ask for if they want anything "different."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:17 AM
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Yeah, I'd cut my losses. It's the only actual chance you have. Saying you would stay friends is being a weak cuck. There's a small chance she could change her mind, but you can't worry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:10 AM
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Why do women always ask men to choke them, spit on them, etc. then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:06 AM
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Money? Protection? Still valuable having dual income when trying to have a kid. Sex? I don't think sex has ever been a huge factor for women in marriage. Emotional support and love??? Men are more selfish and self-centered than women! You could also say men are more generous in relationships because they are much more likely to support a wife at home. It just depends on how you interpret selfishness/generosity. Can you provide any sources that show women do more emotional labor? I find this term…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:03 AM
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I'm saying to withhold from Chad. That's kinda my whole point. Be happy with who is at your level.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:33 AM
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I would like to hear about this as well. I must ask though, why has so much more progress been made with monogamy than before it? All the other cultures died out or live in terrible conditions. It's extremely new in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:31 AM
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This is pretty funny. I don't like FDS at all because it seems too man hating and delusional, but if the collective goal is to deny men sex outside of relationships, I actually agree with it. I think it would benefit society as a whole if the majority of women practiced this. There would be less incels and probably better LTRs. EDIT: I also probably fall closely aligned with red pill beliefs in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:13 AM
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Oh, my bad. lol. I didn't really look at the comment above mine. Just the one I made.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:08 AM
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Yep, I agree with you about unions and feminism. Things that used to play a role, but have kind of turned to be more damaging than good. I've seen factories that almost went bankrupt from the unions. I haven't heard any valid arguments about feminism having a net benefit to society. The only group it helps is lesbians/lifelong single women while hurting every other group. This is the reason that most women have abandoned the message entirely. They know what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:04 AM
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This is completely off topic. How does that relate to any of the fake stats that are used on a continual basis to support modern feminism? I've heard them dozens of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:51 PM
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This is easy. A high n count is probably less of an issue than physical attraction for most men and whenever someone is so desperate to have a partner, they accept what they can get. Other cases where men marry prostitutes or what not are outliers. The average man does not desire a high n count with all other things held equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:33 PM
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Yeah, I don't think men and women are that much different when it comes to n count. Some care and some don't. It's just feelings, but on average I believe women seem to look past a high n count for LTR more than men are. Some women almost seem to be attracted by a sexually experienced man when I don't believe men see a woman who has slept with a hundred men as more attractive in many ways. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:21 PM
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Over lifetime it is more believable, but I also question how much different the numbers look for men over lifetime. I mean, little boys probably get molested/raped all the time and never get reported. No one really knows because men on average are very unlikely to report something like this due to shaming. I personally know a guy who was raped as a child by a female and never reported it or really cared that much. He was too young to understand what happened until later. It's hard to quantify wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:16 PM
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It has never been natural for women to have massive numbers of sexual partners unless you want to go back to the time of monkeys or failed societies. How do you see it as natural?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:51 PM
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I'm sure it is trending downwards. It is still far more acceptable for a woman to marry a man 10 years older than her than it is for a man to do the same. Do you have any recent trends on marriage? I can't find any at the moment. I can only go off of what is available and personal experiences of seeing successful women choose men who are much older occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:46 PM
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Like others have said, communication, common goals, and common morals are probably some of the strongest indicators. Something that others haven't mentioned is bonding with your significant other's friends and family if they have strong connections with them. I think some relationships struggle if they hate the other ones family/friends. Seeing how respectful they are of you and others is probably good too. Determining if both of you are willing to make compromises on things that come up rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:37 PM
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I buy into the biological reasons for mating strategies where traditional roles were in place for a reason. However, I have never had any fetish of wanting a virgin necessarily? I've always wanted low n count though. I'm not going to slut shame a woman because she had sex with her boyfriend in higher school and another guy later on. Who gives a fuck? At the same time, if this woman is someone who clearly seeks out casual sex or has banged the whole town, it is a bit gross. It seems unnatural in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:31 PM
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Yes, this is true, but the fact that 32.3% of marriages are men being at least 4 years older is a large enough portion to show that the preference for similar age may be less important than other factors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships It says the general trend is the same for the US, UK, and Australia.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:10 PM
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True, and to that I would say in the 40s. Women find most men to be unattractive anyways so it seems like an unimportant question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:06 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:01 PM
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Do you have any sources for this? I'm just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 06:09 PM
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Well, when stats aren't in your favor just lie about them. Am I right? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 06:09 PM
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You are right about my main point being with relationships because people are social beings who desire a companion. It's not only about men not being able to find relationships, but for women as well. Feminism has made sex free for above average men so they don't feel a need for a LTR anymore until they get bored. Women consistently want LTRS on average, but are incapable of finding good men due to this scenario. I don't think men are hit any harder than women. It's pretty much the same for both…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 05:02 PM
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I can see your opinion being true as well if the younger guy also had an equal career. I mainly see older men as being advantaged because of how many young women will go wayyy up in age. Like, I've known several women who are perfectly normal and in their 20s, but chose to marry men in their 40s. That is extremely rare in reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 04:42 PM
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Yes. If you think about humans as a whole, women are far more useful. Every man could die but one and that one man could create hundreds of new babies if the women are available. If every woman died but one, it would take massive amounts of time to recover in comparison. This is why men are meant to die in place of women/children. They inherently have more value by existing. As far as relationships go, you could argue that being a perfect mother is far more impactful to society that doing whatev…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 04:15 PM
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I read through one of the articles, but didn't read everything. Considering there's been this much of a wild change in men's fertility and health, what about men's libido? Have men's sex drives also changed and become reduced to a portion of what they used to be? I do think that it is very possible that men's libido has decreased due to things like less exercise and unhealthy diets but am unsure about the reliance on sex. Do you think that the average young man has less desire to have sex than o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 04:00 PM
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I argue men hit the wall around 40 where women hit it closer to 30. However, both of them could remain high value if they are well taken care of. A woman in her 30s can be more attractive than the vast majority of women in their early 20s, but most are not. The other thing at play is that men who make more money are clearly more valuable so it makes it easier for men to maintain their value until 50s. 50s is the hard wall IMO. I think the average men starts to have an advantage in dating wheneve…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 03:45 PM
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They're useless if they don't take care of their children/wife. What the fuck is the man doing if he just sits on the couch at home? The man has to ensure the family is protected so that the woman can worry about sanitation, food preparation, and kids. I don't see what value a man could provide. He can't get pregnant to make future generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 03:23 PM
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Lol. I'm just stating facts. It's just life. Many animals do the same shit. The male has to put on some display and fight and shit while the female just sits there waiting to get fucked by the winner. Complain to evolution/God if you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 03:22 PM
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Yeah, men are basically just slaves for women. It's the natural order. Women can't simply give up their slaves for the sake of their own freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 03:13 PM
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Women aren't nurturing for useless men. Why should they be? It wasn't good for evolution. Men would have become children instead of protectors, providers, etc. From my experience, women have some kind of a bar in their heads for socioeconomic status or future potential. They don't want to be with a man who doesn't want to make money. For men, the bar is physical beauty. I don't really see men or women as being more accepting of low value partners. There are always exceptions to what I stated, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 03:06 PM
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Could you amplify on the economic incentive? I mean, they would still make more money with the woman working. Just because they move into a higher tax bracket doesn't mean that much. The % tax increase is only paid on the income above that level. EDIT: You could say that because that additional income is going to be taxed at a rate of 37% there is less incentive to work compared with the 12% or 22% at lower incomes for federal taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:59 PM
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I agree that if a partner literally though "I'm settling" whenever they chose an LTR would be disturbing. However, reframing your mind so that you don't expect a man to be "perfect" can open up women's options to love someone that they may have never given a chance. Setting standards too high can be harmful for both men and women because almost everyone has to compromise to really find the best partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:44 PM
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I believe that most women work because they were told to work by society and they must do it for security. Once they have married a man who makes that much money, their work is pointless unless they are also extremely successful. Since most women hate their jobs (like everyone), they would quit because they no longer need money. IMO this statistic shows how the rich have disproportionately benefited from feminism. They benefit by utilizing the larger workforce, but they still get to give their c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:25 PM
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So you think that more children were growing up with messed up childhoods pre feminism? Feminism promotes selfish behaviors and has destroyed the way relationships are supposed to work. How can you claim that societal structure was not built primarily through evolution? Also, if not through evolution, how can you legitimately say that men created it? As a man, I've had far more pressure to be masculine from females than other men. I believe most men feel the same way due to not being respected u…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:12 PM
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Thanks, I thought some women would agree. It feels wrong to me that the stigma exists where if you are just a mother you aren't worth much. I've heard it from plenty of women and think lots of men probably feel the same way. I'm not really sure if there is any way to reverse it though. It seems like an attempt to make it valuable again may have a negative effect due to an increase in early pregnancies. In the current state of things, these women would simply be abandoned by the baby's father in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:46 PM
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Yep. That's the main reason I think feminism is bad. The tides have already shifted to favor women, but the ones who want to be activists just create lies in order to gain support from the average woman who feels bad that other women are being mistreated. If they knew that there is no wage gap and 100,000 young women aren't being pressed into slavery in the United States, maybe more women would abandon the nonsense. It's created a lot of negativity in the world. Women look at it as a we vs them …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:41 PM
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I mean, I wouldn't go around to everyone I know randomly mentioning facts that are anti feminist or I would probably be reported to HR for sexual harassment. However, if someone mentioned one of these to me, I would tell them that the claim is not supported by reality even though angry feminists conduct almost all of research in sociology. EDIT: The truth is, women don't really care whether it's true or not. In their minds it is true so they will continue to repeat these and men won't stop them …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:32 PM
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To me, it also depends on how you define sexual assault. If it means that a man is attempting to use physical force to make a woman perform a sexual act, then I would say it is probably much lower than 1/5. ESPECIALLY when the statistic is supposed to be saying over the period in which a woman is in college. Doesn't 1/5 while at college seem high? However, if you considered it to be sexually assault every time a man touches a woman without permission, then in reality it could be 1/5. Who knows t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:29 PM
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I know right? IRL, I've never met another INTJ. I don't really ask everyone I meet though or really ever talk about personality types. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:19 PM
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"Men" didn't build gender roles. Lol. Evolution did. How would men invent the rules where they consistently die at higher frequencies. I don't really feel like writing a long explanation of my beliefs, but you can look at my other comments if you care. I love women, but I don't think feminism has helped men, women, or children. I actually think it has been especially damaging to mothers and children who grew up post feminism. Could you explain how this ideology has any net benefit to society? It…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 04:21 AM
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Lol. They'll be back there eventually! Actually, forcing a guy to let a gf be around friends and family is probably one of the best things to do in order to prevent him from just playing a gf for sex. I don't think most men would be willing to do this without some level of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 04:02 AM
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Sure, you could call it toxic masculinity. Couldn't you also label it toxic femininity? I don't think it is "bad" for a man to stay home as a father, but at least 90% of women would not tolerate it. How is this a man's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 03:59 AM
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Yeah, to be honest, modern day dating kinda sucks. Maybe looking at someone's family helps? It's so hard to say what is important though because you can't just judge them on their family either. One thing that sucks is that if women don't give out sex, they will feel lonely because young guys will move on, but if they do there is a lot of risk in just getting screwed over.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 03:18 AM
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The purge is over?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 03:03 AM
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I haven't read everything about the pills but the dumbest seems to be black pill IMO. The closest to the truth seems to be red, but I don't think it is entirely perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:35 AM
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Yeah, very true. If you read the feminist subs you would think half of men are in waiting to rape any woman when the guard is let down. You would also believe that 1/4 of men keep caged women in their basements.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:18 AM
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Yeah, that may be true. Honestly, I typically avoid women in the working environment or treat them exactly like I do men. I've never tried to game women in any way in a working environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:15 AM
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Do you think morality is always a handicap? I can see it as a handicap if you are talking like the top .5% or something, but when you consider UMC, being a moral individual seems to still be valued?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:56 AM
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Yeah, I would have to agree that a man sitting at home when the wife runs free is at risk of it. Women don't typically like supporting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:42 AM
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Lol, what? Are you saying they are cucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:30 AM
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I've never seen it. It's legal today though isn't it? The thing is, I've just never heard feminists complain about the fact that there aren't enough women in these areas or mowing lawns or whatever. They are still fields that are very disproportional, yet they focus on tech. Why? Because the jobs suck in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:26 AM
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According to google, 7% of dads are stay at home dads. It looks like the number was at 10% in 2010, but then went down. I personally think that if you average the empathy men and women feel for both sexes, the average man has more empathy. The women I've been around in my life just aren't as generous or sympathetic to people who are struggling unless it directly relates to their personal struggles. Who knows though? https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/women_more_empathic_than_men This …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:24 AM
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True. I intentionally search out facts to validate my own belief about the world. lol. However, I don't really consume media that only validates my views. I am also an INTJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:12 AM
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He probably is at the top. Followed by AOC, Bernie, etc... They all use misleading statistics consistently, even after the media correcting them. Then the politicians get mad that they get fact checked. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:05 AM
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Yeah, it is kind of slander about men and the statistic is everywhere. That one and the one about 1/5 women being sexually assaulted in college. It makes people believe that there's this incredible risk due to an extremely high proportion of dangerous men when it is from a questionable study. Like the whole belief that every man should be guilty until proven innocent is kind of a joke. I've seen that repeated in feminist subs the few times I've looked there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:03 AM
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Chivalry simply does not work and I don't think it ever has. The only case I can imagine it working is with a guy who is a giant cock to everyone which is evident to the woman, but then nice to her. Women typically don't respect men for being nice to them. They'll look at you as a weak pushover. Maybe they'll like it after they are in a relationship, but I'm not really sure about that. I feel like women always have to know that you aren't weak or they will hate you for being weak. I'm not really…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:57 AM
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I've never read the book. That does make a lot of sense though because it seems like when you hear stories of predators, they are always "helping" someone. What you say makes complete sense and could probably happen to any woman. I think it is the hardest if said partner is unwilling to work things out. I do believe people who are married should attempt to work through their issues. As far as vetting a partner, the tried and true method works IMO. If a woman makes a man wait a long time for sex,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:49 AM
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True. I had some guy at my work a long time ago literally start crying after Trump got elected in 2016 (I didn't really care who got elected). I asked him why he was so upset because I said it was unlikely to affect his life. He went on to say that women only make 77 cents for every dollar a man makes and blah blah blah. I just kinda laughed and said that every woman we worked with made the same wage as the men. It always seemed pretty fishy to me, especially since there is literally a chapter i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:30 AM
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My bad. Thanks for the correction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:19 AM
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9 9 7
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:16 AM
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Yeah, it is kind of hard to know though? Like, who knows the average salaries of every worker or even a large enough sample to say women make 77 cents for every dollar a man makes doing equal work? It wasn't something anyone could know on their own. For the sexual assault thing, it only really seems believable if every woman has a revelation after having drunk sex and then calls it sexual assault. I always found that one to be pretty hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 11:34 PM
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This probably depends on how you define incel. lol. If it means that a man doesn't have a hoe on speed dial then you are probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 11:25 PM
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Done
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 11:03 PM
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The facts support a message that it is unfair for men to be CEOs. When women don't care about equality in work is when jobs really suck. No one complains about the imbalance of workers at slaughterhouses, mines, power plants, or any other job that is demanding. It's just one of many double standards that are "equality."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:58 PM
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The truth is that women probably do about the same amount of labor, but most of it is very easy and not physically intensive. Things like folding the laundry while watching tv or cooking. Many people actually enjoy cooking, so comparing that to things like being a construction worker, heavy equipment mechanic, warehouse worker, etc. It is kind of a joke. Their work is mostly done on their own time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:47 PM
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edited
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:41 PM
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I agree. Women have so much trouble finding adequate men that when they find someone they deem adequate, they bend over backwards for them. EDIT: Or "simp for Chad"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:27 PM
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Yeah, maybe there is a disproportionate number of bad men. I dunno because I've never tried to date men. lol. There are good ones too though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:23 PM
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Maybe literally nothing has changed except people are free to leave relationships rather than being forced to stick them out. I kinda find it hard to believe it is only men though because I know plenty of good moms and dads. I also know a guy who ended up with a wife who repeatedly threatened to falsely accuse him of child abuse and of abusing her while putting him like $40000 in debt. He was wayyyy too nice of a guy honestly. It's was pretty sad. Men do complain about their wives and children w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:30 PM
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I really don't believe most men are salty. Maybe incels, but others are just sad of what our society has become. Women get mad when they think men are trying to put them in chains or something whenever the truth is that average people are living less satisfying lives despite being very wealthy and having high standards of living.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:01 PM
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Yeah, I find it hard to believe that the average woman doesn't have a higher n count than the average man. Like, Chads have the highest of any group, then average woman, then average man, and then incel. You have to take into account all the guys that literally have no sex. Surveys of women's n counts are proven to error on the low range while men's are proven to error on the high side because of social constructs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:58 PM
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Yep. Both sexes are engaging in selfish activities that don't give as much long term satisfaction. Particularly at younger age ranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:50 PM
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True true. Women may have always been underappreciated in some ways. I think men also feel underappreciated at times as well. I kind of wonder if it got worse with modern economies. Like, a man making 150k thinking what he could do with all that money if only he didn't have a wife. Where in the past there probably wasn't that much to think about doing with his 50 shillings or whatever he was bringing home. lol. You know what I'm saying? The average man can look at his salary and then become rese…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:27 PM
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Actually, what is your definition of a pick me? I don't know the formal definition. I'm not saying moralizing will work. The fact is though that any slightly above average man can jump on the internet and find sex in a week. What is the incentive for men like this to push women to be pick mes in order to have sex? Why would he push any agenda? He can have sex on demand so his life goal is accomplished until he gets bored. This is like a race to the bottom type scenario. Everyone is looking out f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:11 PM
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I married a pick me. Also, I would say that since men are driven mostly by sex to find relationships, women fuck each other over by giving out sex with no commitment continually allowing high value men to get what they want without ever needing to be subjected to other obligations. To find a good relationship, many women now have to settle for beta men because alpha men are polygamists until they get tired of it. They don't want to settle for a lesser man though. This creates a problem. In the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:48 PM
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Yeah, I would say this. I actually don't think most men care THAT much about ideologies unless the woman is obnoxiously annoying about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:31 PM
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I would say the ones who at least have some attractive qualities do, but what about that REALLY fat nasty one that is loud and obnoxious. No half respectable man would be with her, but she still wants love from a real man. If she finds a confident little man, she might want him as a pet?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:28 PM
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I have an idea. Why wouldn't a man like this find a really ugly rich female and finally give her love? She may be so happy to just be loved that then you can live off of her and have a fun life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:11 PM
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Why would you give up instead of finding a low value female?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:06 PM
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True true. I got banned during purge week for downplaying mansplaining. lol. So I'm not really sure how the sub is normally modded. Do you think banning for using logical fallacies would help? I think those are just part of arguments and if people buy it then they buy it. If not, then they tell them it's a stupid argument. Banning for generalizations also seems to be a bad idea because everyone uses generalizations in gender debates. Saying that everyone should dismiss arguments that do not have…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:04 PM
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I feel like all the bans you mention seems to allow a lot of subjectivity. This just creates an environment where people are going to get banned because the mod disagrees with their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:46 PM
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Refer to other comment about biology
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:33 PM
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Here is a simple explanation about why there will NEVER be a (large) men's rights movement. Humans' goal in life is to reproduce so all the differences between men and women push towards that goal. Men - work through harsh conditions, fight in wars, and build things so that safety/comfort can be achieved for themselves/women/children. They are expendable. They go down with the ship. They die to defend women/children. Women - raise children and help make men's focus on outside work possible. Also…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:31 PM
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So it basically sounds like you agree with me. My point wasn't for just women to value being mothers, but for men and women to value it. I'm not really sure if just talking about it even matters because it seems so ingrained in everyone that career women are the way to go. It was more of a what if. I believe that if it was possible to convince both sexes that being a mother is extremely valuable, maybe men would care more? I dunno. I view women's problems as pretty much being the same as men's p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:02 PM
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Probably to both. I dunno. Are you going to watch the new little mermaid? I'm probably not going to watch it. I wasn't going to see it before and changing the little mermaid to being black didn't really change my mind about wanting to see the little mermaid. lol. Was it your favorite movie or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:27 PM
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Because most feminists have nothing better to do than shutdown things they don't believe in. Most people who think feminism sucks work normal jobs so don't have time to deal with protests and nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:21 PM
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I completely agree with everything you said. I can't understand how women look at men vs women as if it's like 2 different races/cultures/creatures whatever. Men and women coexist and have different roles. Being a male rights activist is the opposite of masculine and would fuck over his entire life because most men and women would look at him as pathetic. Even if other men agreed with him, they would probably just insult him because he appears weak. EDIT: Also, I can only imagine how being a MEN…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:15 PM
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Yeah dude. Women only care about personality. Haven't you seen all of the old men with attractive women? How else could this happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:56 PM
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Dude, Michael Jackson changed to white so why can't the little mermaid be black?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:49 PM
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I think extremely ugly women have it off worse than extremely ugly men. The main reason I believe this is because women put so much emphasis on personality where men look at physical attractiveness most. Therefore, an ugly woman has to pick from guys who are real dickheads for the most part because all of the good looking women took the men who have good personalities. For ugly men, there is a better chance that their partner has a decent personality to live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:43 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:39 PM
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Honestly, I wrote this because I was bored and am not really sure I entirely agree with it. It was more about what if people actually believed motherhood was just as important as anything else. Really a pointless question because I think praising mothers more is probably more likely cause harm than good. I thought about things like teen mom that probably influence young women to think it is ok or cool to get pregnant in high school and I have always hated those shows. The facts are that no one d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:34 PM
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You asked if they were ever respected for being housewives. You realize women always say they aren't respected right? I could ask the most accomplished woman ever who is always treated perfectly and she would say she didn't feel respected. Women don't feel respected no matter what they do. On the other hand, I could probably find 10 guys who work in a warehouse who would say they feel respected. It has to do with estrogen I think. I mean, the most accomplished women seem to complain more than an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:24 PM
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Why did you feel the need to specify human pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:30 AM
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How am I being a hypocrite? I didn't say women shouldn't work. I said they should be able to also stay home and raise their children. Ok, I'll concede defeat that a working mom vs stay at home mom probably isn't that big of a deal. Also, apparently 17% of dads are currently stay at home. I don't know any stay at home dads. lol You asked if they were happy being housewives, which technically they were not housewives since both worked the majority of their lives outside of staying home with kids. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:25 AM
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I dunno. I got banned and I'm not even an incel. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:33 AM
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Maybe in UMC it is valued in some ways. I've lived there and still see it as typically taking second place to career. I'm not saying to force anyone to do anything. I'm saying that overwhelming feminists push a message that goes against what is best for men, women, and children. How is saying that there should be a stronger focus on mothers demanding that anyone do anything? I'm just saying that being a mother is not as highly valued in the current era and it is probably due to feminism in the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:25 AM
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I guess so. It may be ok for some people. I only imagine this being common with elderly or obese couples who are incapable of having sex. I think a regular sex life is probably healthier for men and women. It reaffirms the bond and makes both people feel desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:03 PM
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Lol, that is true. The evidence about single women being the happiest was a misinterpreted statistic by some random author of a book who I don't believe is any type of researcher.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:01 PM
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Lol. Literally noone IRL. Just on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:42 PM
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This is a debate sub. Who would constantly take things out of context and argue about it in reality if they aren't debating? I thought the point was to have fact based discussions about topics, but no one supports any claims at all. Woman: "All men are rapists and want to torture little girls" Me: Shows link to porn search statistics Woman: Shares link that in no way shows most men watch that type of porn Me: Points out that it doesn't show that an average man would ever watch that Woman: Silenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:37 PM
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Partially. I also think that people are naturally social creatures who desire the opposite sex for companionship. Along with that comes sex because it's what is special about a male/female relationship. It's unique to the two of you. EDIT: I don't think most guys want to just get off in reality. They would be much happier with someone who loves them and they love.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:28 PM
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As a man, I would say that if I was sexless at 30, I would be EXTREMELY depressed (probably even early 20s for that matter). It really isn't about the sex itself, but society looks at you as a failure. The fact that every one of your friends is probably in a relationship or having sex would compound the loneliness. Also, when someone has never had sex, they glamorize it a lot. It's not that it isn't good, but they make it out to be some mysterious thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:25 PM
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I'm gonna go with yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:39 PM
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Lol. Can you go into detail about how males seeking out better looking females will lead to the degradation of western society?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:36 PM
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This is very true. Maybe this is why there are so many people who grow up with mental issues these days. lol. They neglected future generations in favor of the short term gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:24 PM
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I say that modern feminism is the voice the propagates it. Older women seem to value mothers more than younger women. I think there is a very strong wave of propaganda from LGBTQ/Extreme Left that kind of wants to do away with traditional ways of life because it benefits LGBTQ overall. You could blame feminism completely, but you could also argue that essentially they were forced into it due to poor treatment or generally too strong of a message about men's accomplishments that made them feel we…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:22 PM
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Meh, I think it actually happened before that. I would guess the degrading value of a mother was probably at play when feminism started. The women probably thought their best choice was basically to just become men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:13 PM
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How is having kids a selfish endeavor? I don't understand at all. Popaganda/protesting what? I'm emphasizing the fact that so many people complain of terrible childhoods. It's simply not fair and I believe social constructs are causing children to be raised in unfair environments. What is selfish is for people to choose to father/mother kids without being able to provide them adequate support growing up. Why do so many people suffer from mental illness? Do you understand child psychology at all?…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:09 PM
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I know. I was agreeing with you. lol. I was saying they definitely shouldn't have to work now because everything is more efficient these days. Control could be a possible reason, but there is still a need for jobs. A larger labor market simply drives wages down as well. I'm kind of exaggerating. I'm saying that when given the choice between promoting the idea of women are successful when they raise good children or being successful when being a CEO, engineer, doctor, etc. society chooses to emph…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:03 PM
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I think the happier is a lie overall. There's no evidence that feminism has helped anyone be happier. It's just based off of individual experiences and how they were socially engineered. It's not really their fault, they were brought up in this type of society like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:58 PM
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But look at the comments from women. Have you been around circles of women who actually look down on women who aren't career oriented? I have. Is it really looked at the same as a woman who become an electrical engineer? Or whatever? I'd say that it is definitely looked down upon in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:56 PM
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You are proving my point. The fact that you think it is insulting to praise someone for spending their time and energy to raise the next generation IS damaging to children. Do you really think that raising children is a waste of time? How is it not more valuable than whatever job you are probably doing? It's more valuable than my job IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:29 PM
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Yes, they do have to work. They really shouldn't both have to work to have a moderate living style considering how much more efficient manufacturing, farming, and everything else is. Because we don't give a fuck about mothers or kids, society doesn't give a fuck about mothers being able to raise their children in a good way. The most efficient society could be to place a stronger emphasis on future generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:27 PM
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I don't think we overvalue mothers. Sure, Karen might act like a lunatic and demand respect for being a mother, but overall there is very little focus on them. The fact is that people don't BELIEVE what is said. It's all lip service. I'm not hating on working moms, poor moms, or single moms. I'm saying they shouldn't be put in this situation and having a culture which puts a stronger emphasis on mothers could make it better? I dunno. Yeah sure, in modern society it is hard to imagine revising op…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:24 PM
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Calm down, I'm sure you understood the intention of the options or you are stupid. You don't think that the way mothers are praised in the modern era is lip service in comparison to what it should be?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:56 PM
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I mean, people could argue all day against who constructed all of modern society. The fact is that men and women have always coexisted and taken care of eachother. It's part of life. Sure, some men raped and what not, but women are not entirely perfect. To think that women did not benefit from having the freedom to raise children while men provided protection and resources seems a bit naive. And yes, I agree that men and women are both at fault for the modern problems. I argue that some of these…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:52 PM
1

It's funny that a similar post was made in the pinkpilldebate because I have never been to that sub before. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:32 PM
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Exactly. In today's world, women who shouldn't be having kids are having the most kids while the women who should be strong mothers are instead choosing to work. This is because of the value that society is placing on roles. I was honestly hoping feminists would comment though. I wanted to hear why they don't like this approach. Children are the future of the world so IDK why it is frowned upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:22 PM
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Lol. It's kind of equal responsibility. Both sexes praise men's accomplishments too much, leading to a feeling of worthlessness from women which translates to them demanding to do what men do. Forgetting the fact that being a mother can have a far higher payoff than anything else. It's not a useless position.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:18 PM
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Interesting. You seem to have the feelings that I imagine many women have and I have seen. I think women are smart and they did not unwilling endure being mothers for all of history. I really believe that many societies simply placed more value on them than is currently placed. If men and women legitimately viewed being a GREAT mother was the same as being an entrepreneur, doctor, engineer, etc. it would be beneficial to both sexes. Women would be more "free." Sure, women could still work, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:15 PM
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This wasn't really meant to "blame" women for the problem. I'm saying that men probably were controlling the narrative and ended up placing wayyyy too much value on man's accomplishments instead of praising the mothers of society which are really more important or equally important. You could blame men for the change just as easily as you could blame women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:11 PM
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See, I'm not really sure if it was intentional. I think at some point in history the narrative got twisted and people forgot about the value of being a mother. Modern feminism is just the result of growing up in a society that overvalues male accomplishments. What happens when noone wants to be a mother anymore because the narrative is so one sided? Like, think of the damage that a terrible mother can do. She could raise ten kids that could go on to be rapists. On the other hand, a great mother …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:08 PM
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I can't imagine anyone actually believing the blue pilled ideology you described. They would have to be unaware of themselves and never watch relationship dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:57 PM
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For sure. I wouldn't want to date a mother either. It's easier not being involved with the drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:55 PM
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Lol. The problem is that when you are a kid and become a teenager, most people don't agree. Then you lack confidence in highschool and are introverted so don't find any meaningful relationships with the opposite sex until you hit college and become more confident. Even though you've had adults and older females tell you that you are desirable, you don't understand because you are stupid. I mean, I had a lot of fun until I realize girls mattered (somewhere in my teens), then life got more complic…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:41 PM
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I felt like the odd one out with most people when it came to killing bugs. Girls didn't really care whether people needlessly killed bugs either, so I dunno if it was really a man thing or not. That's pretty neat. Solar energy is a pretty good option, but I'm also a big believer in nuclear power. I also like meat. Have you ever been in a slaughterhouse though? I went to one a while back and it was fairly disturbing. I didn't get sick, but the whole thing just kind of made me think about the proc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:31 PM
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True, I think women definitely want a man that they believe would do basically anything to protect them. But knowing that women actively look for, and encourage violent behaviors, do you still hate men's nature? I'm a bit curious about how many men are naturally cruel vs learned behavior. I've gotten in fights when I was a kid over people killing random bugs I liked. Lol. I was a weird kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:24 PM
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Lol. You are probably right. I also knew a kid who literally hung is dog on a fence by his leash. I think the dog lived, but it was pretty disgusting. Do you think it is a sign of psychopath if they enjoy crushing bugs? Even though they are just bugs, it always pissed me off when kids wanted to just kill them for fun. Like not mosquitos or wasps, but just random bugs walking about their day. It always confused me why they would want to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:17 PM
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It could be a symptom of misogyny. The other thing is that probably over half the women I slept with wanted to do shit that made me uncomfortable (any guy I've talked to about this has told me the same thing). Like they've asked me to choke them with my hands, dick, piss on them, spit on them, etc. I have never wanted to do those things and other guys I know have said the same thing. I refuse to do anything but put my hand on a woman's neck, but why do they even want this? It seems extremely com…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:13 PM
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Lol. You sound bitter for some reason. Doesn't a dad who actually sticks around for his kids demonstrate good qualities though? I mean, the fact that we're talking about one with kids I'm assuming that he is part of their lives. You don't really know how he ended up being a dad. A woman could have poked a hole in the condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:02 PM
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Your mother is probably ashamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:00 PM
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What were you before and what are you now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:59 PM
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Do you like your MGTOW life better than normal life? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:59 PM
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That's nice. I bet more people are similar to you than blind followers even if they write ridiculous shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:58 PM
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Good for you. Do you think men are naturally cruel? When I was in my teens, I thought men were cruel compared to women. However, later on in life, I felt like cruelty was more evenly distributed between genders. The reason I thought men were more cruel was mainly because some guys would brag about things like blowing up animals with fire crackers or drowning a cat. I like animals so it made me want to punch people like that in the face. The reason I thought women were cruel is harder to describe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:57 PM
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Was he homeless or just some random guy going to work at 7-eleven?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:23 PM
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I mean, I still want to know. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:58 AM
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I agree. People are basically just monkeys without them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:48 AM
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Guilty. Also, tons of guys I know are guilty of the same thing. It is probably because of these individuals that there are so many incels. Men continually fuck women that they would never consider dating when bored/desperate. It's too tempting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:39 AM
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I agree with you for the most part. I don't many people realize how harmful much of modern social engineering is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:26 AM
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That is true. I've really had an ideal girl. My thoughts were the need to pass a minimum level of physical attractiveness and then just see if you get along with each other. Everyone is different so I didn't want to think about the perfect match having too specific of traits. I think I may be different than most though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:22 AM
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For love? I'm sure not every incel is that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:09 AM
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Is there a sub where incels can meet femcels? It might help solve the problem. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:23 AM
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I haven't seen the movie, but from what you describe, it is pretty rare. I would also guess that the looks and personality are extremely sought after although not a "bombshell." Probably at least a 9 to most men. A lot of guys prefer the cute type look over the sexy look.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:58 AM
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I guess I would tell the same thing to an incel? Or someone who used some experience to justify racism? I guess I see large groups of people all spreading hate as being a negative thing. They actually delete any posts that aren't manhating to silence any who have differing opinions. I also feel like you shouldn't sugar coat the truth. Are they children? It is more hurtful for someone to not call it what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:44 AM
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I mean, I know that it is a coping strategy. I just don't see it as being beneficial if women actually take advice from other people who are also bitter from their experiences. They should find people who are more positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:03 AM
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I'm sure that he will most likely leave her too eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:43 AM
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They insult women who imply in any way that a man may not be in the wrong. They also consistently say that men have no value. Seems kinda toxic IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:49 AM
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This is pretty true. Most women strongly project a progressive image, but are just as racist/homophobic, if not more than any man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:40 AM
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Is it hard to find a man with kids? I've heard men with kids can have a hard time dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:35 AM
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Because it is a fact of life. A man who is personable, confident, and of high socioeconomic status has no problem with finding Stacy even if he isn't physically attractive. Women might say that he's physically unattractive, but it might be only 20% of the equation. Moderately attractive women will turn down top looking men at times just because of personality. Men don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:27 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 09:35 PM
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You aren't denying what I said is true though. I'm not angry. I'm criticizing it because I don't think it works and the posts look pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:08 PM
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I said that educated women overwhelming marry men of higher income. This becomes a problem down the road when the average woman is more educated and earns more than the average man. Maybe I'm completely wrong and it won't cause any problems, but there seems to be many symptoms. I mean, an individual experience doesn't really seem to indicate that the philosophy benefits society. To clarify, I'm mostly against 3rd wave feminism and a bit of second wave. It's the media and social pressures that se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:22 PM
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This applies to most of them, not all. I think it is because they push a message of hate equal to the alt right, nazism, or racism. The only way these types of messages stick are through blissful ignorance, anger, and hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:32 PM
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So, in your opinion, the ideal dating strategy for women to get high value men is to treat them like shit and continually repeat to yourself that they have no value? The repeated message on the sub is: Men have no value Women are all queens and don't need to change Leave your man Everything wrong with your life is probably because of man I'm not sure if this is the official message, but it is what the member have chosen to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 05:55 PM
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I agree that men need to do better, but it simply is not in man's social nature to push back against women on these kinds of issues because it is not masculine. For a man to take up a cause like this, he is viewed as weak and women know this. I argue that hate groups should be disbanded and true equality should be accepted by both sides. I agree that people are adapting, but the problem is nowhere near reaching its climax. It has really just begun. Didn't you see that women who are educated actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 05:50 PM
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First off, women's sexual preference built the patriarchy. Women have always been better at manipulation and have superior social intelligence. It has been an advantage throughout history to be able to have men available to build infrastructure, create modern medicine, conquer lands, and design comfy homes. This was all done because women consistently valued men who participated in these activities. What's the advantage of going to work, voting, or fighting in wars? Women were intelligent becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:43 PM
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Yeah, I would say the happiest men and women are in good relationships. The least happy men and women live lives of loneliness and solitude with a close followup of those in bad relationships. In the middle is probably single people who actually interact with at least some other people. What I'm saying is what I've seen and also very close to what studies seem to indicate. My point is that I don't know why people would advocate being single forever. I would further argue that single people becom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:23 PM
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I don't disagree with the methods you stated. I do disagree with the sub repeatedly stating that "men have no value." It seemed like a weak defense mechanism to try and cover their pain which was obviously caused by a man who had value to them. It is also hateful rhetoric with no basis in reality that unintelligent people could believe if repeated enough. My point is that it functions very similarly to a hate group although the name implies it is about dating strategies. It was also funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:18 PM
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Telling women it is ok to have high n count is the same as telling someone it is ok to go do drugs. There is no shame in it because it is perfectly acceptable behavior. In reality, promiscuity has gone down because high value men don't want the average woman anymore because she is lower than ever before due to having many masculine traits and not desire of a family. All low value women seem to believe that they deserve a high value man, so there is this huge mismatch that leads to loneliness. Ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:08 PM
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I've never read TRP. I think it is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 05:17 AM
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Lol. That sounds a bit annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:33 AM
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"you" as an I used the state to enforce patriarchy. Lol. As if men have some widespread conspiracy. There are plenty of women who support the patriarchal model and plenty of men against it. I think freedom and equality is good, but the standard family has been the best model for society as a whole. Here are some large studies that show marriages are the happiest situation: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/living-single/201303/marriage-and-happiness-18-long-term-studies https://www.psychol…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:31 AM
1

I completely understand if you have to walk around at night or live in a bad area.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:12 AM
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Can you explain to me what it preaches then and how it benefits the women? It seems to lack a reality check from anyone on the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:05 AM
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Stop being so pessimistic. Love exists. Lol. It may not be with Stacy, but there is a Becky somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:04 AM
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I don't know the exact percentage of men that could provide that. It partially depends on the female as well as far as the %. I don't really get the "worth being bothered." And sure, you could get sperm from many men, but what you really need is a father to help raise him. So, I've seen multiple studies that do not support the claim in that one article. The article you gave doesn't even show any evidence. It's just some professor blathering. I honestly don't believe what many sociologists believ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:02 AM
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I've only looked at it once, but I also found it quite humorous. The advice that they give each other comes from a lot of miserable women and is jaded by their terrible experiences. None of them know how to get or keep men of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:47 AM
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Nahhh. That's not really true. Only if they are a hoe. There are plenty of women who never leave their man even though there are "better" options running around out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:43 AM
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#1 love #2 give you a child #3 take care of you while you raise a child Those are probably the biggest things. Also, women who have men are just happier. It's part of nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:42 AM
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I think women love men and practice hypergamy. I don't really feel like they are constantly looking for men if their man makes them happy at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:37 AM
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Yes, but the name of it is Female Dating Strategy. Why not talk about ways you could control men? The forum seems to just be methods that push men away. You could control men by maybe cooking him a nice meal or doing other nice things for him. Give a man compliments that makes him feel good. If you make him feel good, you could probably control him. It's really stupid to think that by just being mean and expecting good things that you will ever get a decent man. EDIT: Also, teaching never to com…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:31 AM
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Yeah. I'm not really sure how any woman would think this works. It doesn't for an average woman. It would really only work for Stacy, but whatever Stacy does works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:27 AM
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I agree that it is not only about treating men better, but also the ability to filter out men who actually are trash. I don't really know what men cutting women's vaginas in Sudan has anything to do with FDS or me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:25 AM
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Random posts of circle jerks. Mostly patting each other on the back about leaving a man or how they need to make men work. I never saw anything about taking any responsibility for their actions or looking for ways they should treat men better in order to get high value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:17 AM
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I read it very briefly and I thought it was funny because the posts were so stupid. It was like, "For the last month I drove 45 min to Chad's house, picked him up pizza, and then sucked his dick every night. I left him." Then everyone posts what a good job she did. I thought, "what type of nutcase would be doing that to begin with if they got nothing in return?" I then read further comments and it seemed like an echo chamber of men being terrible and women deserving better. Basically, every man …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 02:49 AM
4

Wow, you convinced someone to have your baby murdered?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 02:30 AM
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Yeah, they should probably find something to do with their lives instead of sitting on reddit all day. The fact that all they do is sit around and feel sorry for themselves is probably the reason they are so lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 02:26 AM
2

What kind of pathetic man relies on his male friends for emotional support?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 02:24 AM
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This is pretty standard leftist behavior. Bernie: "We need to take everyone's money and redistribute it" Also Bernie: Gives less to charity than people I know who probably make like 1/10 his salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 02:19 AM
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Great job. It's nice to hear that people actually choose to work on themselves instead of complaining about how everything is fucked up about the other gender. :) :) :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 02:02 AM
1

I used it in the past and I've had friends who used it as well. It's nice for someone who works a lot. There are some decent women on there, but mostly just hoes or really desperate women. I had a couple FWBs from there, random hookups, and also awful dates because they basically were catfish. I thought it was kind of fun, but I didn't really expect anything out of it. I figured I would click with someone eventually or meet a woman some other way. I eventually met my wife in a different way. Fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 01:52 AM
3

I think this is 99% of men on this sub. Are you available for LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 01:22 AM
1

Why not just removing toxic from it entirely? I honestly don't see it as toxic, but being natural and practical. Men have to suck it up and take care of shit. If they don't, will the person crying in a corner, feeling sorry for him/herself do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 01:01 AM
1

I just read FDS for the first time and it is hilarious. I kept seeing all of the posts making fun of it, but it is really funnier than anyone can portray without actually visiting the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 12:47 AM
1

There seems to be a bit of a debate around who Chad is. To me, Chad is basically just the guy who fucked your girl. He's most likely better than you in probably every way, but you don't see it. Chads are smart, athletic, and resourceful. Women would flock to Chad for protection. Thugs would simply kill most of the incels around them and rape the women, but not Chad. Chad knows that he needs them. He uses the women and his superior leadership to convince the incels to form a militia that ultimate…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 12:29 AM
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Lol. I mean, the idea is pretty hilarious. They may grow to love each other. It may be the best option to reduce crime rates
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:29 PM
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So, you think incels would out perform Chads in an apocalypse. Lol. Being socially dominant means that they also have more friends and are better at uniting people. They may become leaders of small tribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:03 PM
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How is there an incentive to divorce for money? You could argue that there is an incentive to marry AND then get divorced for money. This means going into the marriage with that intent. This is precisely why people should think it through before doing it. A woman could take a man's money by simply fucking him and having a kid. She never even has to get married. I'm not against alimony in general because I think it is needed to protect women in some scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 10:23 PM
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Lol. Are you gay? EDIT: IMO these pictures are extreme examples that don't represent my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 10:18 PM
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Nah. Chad would still fuck all of your women mercilessly. He is probably superior to you in every way. The only difference is he would be more open about it because women would flock to him for safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 10:02 PM
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But it's nowhere near dead. It's just that people are mostly waiting longer. Marriage seems to be a good thing. Commitment is good. Making it hard to simply pick up and leave is good for stability and raising kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:55 PM
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Lol. Whaaaaaaattt???? I thought this was IRL??? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:17 PM
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UMC people? But can't anyone get married? I kind of feel as though liberal culture has glamorized the single life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:15 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/alarming-facts-about-divorce-in-the-us%3famp Even when adjusting for less people getting married, the overall divorce rate is going down. It used to be that over 50% of marriages end in divorce. This article says that it is now closer to 39%. So you are still wrong. Maybe the problem is that too many are egotistical and unwilling to "settle" in an LTR with someone of their own value? I would contribute it partially to media and partially to fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:57 PM
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Yeah, that's probably true. I would say average women get the most benefit from makeup whenever they hit 30s+. I still think a lot of women end up wearing more than needed. It definitely looks best when they are able to apply just enough to cover blemishes while maintaining a realistic look. I think it looks crazy when women wear 🤡 makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:39 PM
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Honestly, these kind of posts should probably be deleted even though it is purge week.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:28 PM
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Ok, but when you are with a woman after she showered or wake up next to her, I'm pretty sure there is no makeup on. Lol. I'm not gonna deny that women can add a few points on with makeup. However, there are woman that put makeup on who actually look almost the same without it if they take care of their skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:27 PM
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How is this post propaganda? It's an IRL story. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:24 PM
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Divorce rates are actually going down? Your post makes no sense. Married people are happier. There is a reason that marriage has been around for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:23 PM
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That is sad to hear. Hopefully they are able to get therapy and move forward with their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:17 PM
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A lot of women are pretty without makeup. At least in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:12 PM
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Do women really attempt to be unattractive to avoid attention even though it also causes good men to avoid them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:50 PM
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Ok, but that doesn't show that your average guy likes or watches teen porn. It said one of the most popular searches but what does that mean? Top 20, top 50, top 200? I have no idea. This shows in no way that average guy likes rape, teen, or torture porn. EDIT: This answer stands for all 3 links. There is no evidence that even 1% of men actually like this. A tiny fraction of men who really are into sick shit could cause these videos to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:41 PM
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Man, this is my biggest fear. I'm worried my son will grow up to be like this. You can't protect them from all of the extremist propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:31 PM
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https://www.pornhub.com/insights/2019-year-in-review Here are the search statistics from 2019 on pornhub. I don't see anything that supports your claims. And I'm pretty sure amateur means that they aren't pornstars, not that they are young. I could be wrong about that though. What I do see is that femdom is above any type or rape or torture porn. Where is your information from? I've never had guy friends who talked about rape or torture porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:25 PM
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I can see where you are coming from with them seeing American women as sexier. However, the American women they would typically see are the top 1% in media or the top 10% through tourism since wealthy people are better looking on average. This is very deceiving since the extreme problem with obesity in the US and that so few women look like models. I don't think they would find the average American woman attractive physically, but would have fantasies about the top % as all men do. To me, all ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:16 PM
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I'm not really sure about your perspective. That seems to be a purely western, feminist perspective. Have you been to any of those countries? Sure, white women still have sex appeal, but conservative men in those countries would never want to be with a woman with high n count or who continually tries to dominate men in public places. It would simply make him feel weak and unmanly. It's what you would probably call fragile masculinity but it is part of their culture. Also, American women typicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 06:13 PM
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Couldn't you make almost as much money doing Webcam stuff? Why would you choose to do sex work instead? Would you rather choose who you have sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:58 PM
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I think it really depends on what country we're talking about. A man from an African country or Middle Eastern country would probably only be with an American woman for immigration purposes. I think what you are saying is 2nd or 3rd gen immigrants who have lost their original culture may prefer white women because of Westernization.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:54 PM
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Do you think most men masturbate to human torture? I find it hard to believe. Don't many women watch rape porn or have rape fantasies?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:50 PM
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As far as looks go, women are more likely to date down because they value confidence and socioeconomic status more. They also like being of a higher value for LTRs because it makes them feel like they have control and more secure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:37 PM
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As a man who has been with foreign women, foreign women really like American men. They thought American men are probably the best out of any country. They are masculine, have good genetics, confident, and hard working. The women thought American women suck and age really poorly for the most part. American women try to act like men, who wants a masculine woman? EDIT: Foreign men feel less masculine when American women try to control every aspect of life. Foreign women know how to make men feel go…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:34 PM
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I mean, it's not really that big of a deal. I'll probably go back to rarely using reddit after quarantine
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 04:38 PM
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If you aren't Stacy, you can't expect Chad to be interested in LTR. You have to feel the guy out and determine for yourself if he is just looking to fuck or would be interested in LTR. Some things you could do to make sure he wants a relationship is see if he will bring you around friends, family, the public, or if he is willing to invest time in you without sex. If he gets frustrated that you don't want to fuck him the first night, he probably didn't want you for a relationship. EDIT: Most men …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 04:30 PM
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I'm not an incel and I've had a friend kill himself who also was not an incel. I think they were 19 or 20. It was sad. I don't think about killing myself. This post is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 04:24 PM
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Yes, I agree that choices are good. I don't understand why feminism still exists though. Could you explain to me what they are working towards? It seems like it mostly is having negative effects. Here are a few more reasons I see modern feminism as bad: Encourages promiscuous behavior Encourages women to be alone The feminist subs I've visited are shockingly similar to what I would imagine would be in any extremist group. They push hate. It's even mainstream with the feminist influencers. Why wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 04:13 PM
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https://reddit.app.link/WWSXd13Nl6 I mean, the fact that it is purge week makes me believe that this hit too close to home for the mod and she got really triggered so banned me for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 03:43 PM
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Lol. This is an alt a made yesterday because the mod was triggered I made a CMV about mansplaining and banned me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:50 PM
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Hey, you can always find completely inaccurate information somewhere on the internet? Amiright? I've been around unmarried females and they don't ever seem happy. Really a lot worse than older unmarried men. I wouldn't care about the issue at all because I am married, but I may have kids that are forced to live in this harsh environment that may push them to live miserable lives. Maybe tomorrow I'll go to the second or 3rd article in the Google search. EDIT: Why would you want to live longer if …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:02 AM
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I'm also married. I don't depend on game to keep my wife in line. Lol. I had to look up awalt. I think awalt is true in a way, but there are definitely women of different values like there are men of different values.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 04:46 AM
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8" cock
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 04:38 AM
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I know. I have hooked up with women before and it is a red flag if she just throws herself at me. If she can't wait a month or two to find a man who she is compatible with personality wise before sleeping with someone, why would I believe that she wouldn't invite my neighbor over while I'm traveling for work? Or try to fuck my friend if they are left alone together for 5 min? It just is a red flag. I personally think women should make men wait for at least several dates. Who gives a fuck if he g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 04:37 AM
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I think that at least half of men are pussywhipped. Also, I would argue that not being allowed to do things typically led to happier lives. Having the ability to purely focus on children and taking care of a home was more satisfying. The stresses of school, work, and politics have made them miserable. I think some women still know this. Although they do want the option to plot their own life, they would rather live a lifestyle with standard gender roles. I would further argue that these women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 04:28 AM
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Then why do most women hold onto it so much? I think women are different than men and prefer a woman who holds it down until LTR. Why would I want to be with a woman who can't wait a little bit until they can find someone worth fucking? I'm pretty sure that promiscuous women are less likely to be happy in LTRs as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 04:12 AM
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Yeah, but why didn't she wait longer to figure out if I even cared about her in any way? Why would she give up her power so quickly with the risk of pregnancy and raising her n count? It just doesn't feel special if they give it to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 03:48 AM
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Yes, that is true. And I'm arguing that women played a larger part in building these constructs since they are superior in social intelligence. If a woman said she would suck a man's dick for wearing a thong, men would wear thongs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 03:46 AM
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Ok. Stop being so logical! I didn't take the time to write this post for the sake of logic. It was about theorizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:20 AM
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Yeah, but I know I'm not that hot. How many other men did she randomly bang without knowing anything about them? What happen when she sees Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:18 AM
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Well, I basically told you all the article says anyways. I think it causes unhappiness because it tries to force women into acting like men to be perceived as strong. Women are happiest as mothers and they should have a man to take care of them. I'm not against women working, but they should be able to raise their kids. Deep down, women like masculine men. Feminism drives masculine men away. Also, eliminating the wage gap causes nightmares for female professionals. No woman wants to be the bread…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:15 AM
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I'm on my phone, but if you Google "least happiest demographics" it should be the first thing. Apparently the least happiest group is an unmarried 42 yo female who earns around 100k/yr. Seems to me like she listened to feminism and ended up lonely as fuck with no kids. The happiest was a 39 yo male manager with kids who earns 150-200k. His wife works part time and he has a young kid. It's from a psychology magazine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 01:59 AM
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why do you think guys send copious amounts of dick pics? If you get her number, she wants a dick pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 01:53 AM
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Yeah, but why is the least happy demographic middle aged female professionals? Also, why are young people so lonely? Breaking apart gender norms seems to be destroying dating for many people. Is there any evidence that feminism has made any demographic happier?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 01:43 AM
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I also probably wouldn't ask. It's more of the woman giving off a feeling of some type of selectiveness. Did she fuck me on the first date and is not a virgin? I would never date someone like that. Does she seem like she's banged every man on tinder? Also not interested. Fucking a few men is whatever. Couldn't really care less. However, someone involved in hookup culture is simply undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 01:35 AM
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I'm really sorry to hear that. I had a good friend kill himself when I was 20. It was probably the worst thing that has ever happened to me. It led me to being depressed for at least 6 months and still makes me depressed if I think about it. This is what I did: If you exercise, keep exercising. If you don't, then start. It helps. Talk with people about it. Not like every person you know, but maybe your parents or other people who knew him. Talk to a counselor if you need to. Just wait out bad fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:58 AM
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The title of the post is slightly misleading because the main claim that I was making is that they are smarter in almost every social situation. Clearly women suck at inventing shit. All they do is focus on social situations, which is an extremely powerful type of intelligence. It's not hard to argue that manipulation is more important than a scientific/mathematical intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:50 AM
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I don't think I have a pill. I preach a more traditional view on marriage. I also think men set an attraction bar based almost solely on looks before they are willing to consider a woman, while women set their attraction bar based 95% on perceived status.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:41 AM
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I'm not scared of feminists at all. However, I think it has lead to a huge decline in happiness throughout the centuries. Women and men are less happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:39 AM
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Man, I've never seen such a fag. How can anyone rate you without seeing your dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:22 AM
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You forgot the type that desire mentally stable women who would never undertake the kind of risks that high n count women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:20 AM
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I think you should take full advantage of your privileged position. If you want to fuck Chad, go for it. If you want to hold out for someone special, go for it. If you want to mess with incels, go for it. IDGAF
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:18 AM
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Lol. It could be. I've been out of the market for a while. I still feel like there's probably some woman just waiting for you to blow her mind and blow inside of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:13 AM
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Yes, and they get exactly what everyone wants. They get pussy and loads of money. Why would a smart person not do that? Everyone knows they trick people, but they still pay them taxes. Isn't it smart to be able to get what you want without doing things that suck for it? I completely understand your argument about creating things and understanding the world makes you smarter, but that is not the full story.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:09 AM
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What about radfems that think all men should be neutered?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:05 AM
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Lol. I think being an incel is worse than being average. Average guys could go on a rampage with piggies if they wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:04 AM
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So, you are saying that creating and improving society makes you more intelligent. Are politicians smarter or dumber than engineers? All over the world politicians convince everyone to just give them money for giving speeches all day. This is what women do. I guess I see that as being smarter in a lot of ways. Think of the story where a kid makes painting a fence look fun and then the other kids want to do it so he ends up just sitting there and watching them do it. Are the ones doing the painti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:02 AM
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I mean, I think incels need to suck it up and get over their ego. They typically think they are higher value than they are, won't work to improve, and are miserable. They should just find some obese woman from FDS and marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:52 PM
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I actually also view the arrangement as a fair exchange. It was more about the historical point of view for gender equality. I would argue that currently, feminism is making women's lives much worse on average. Less happy and less fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:50 PM
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I like your messed up example and that is the way that women want men to think. They want us to think that it is all our choice. We love them and like to make them happy. In reality, we were bred this way through social constructs to take care of women. Think of how men treat women. They open doors for them, feed them, give them big houses, etc. Imagine spending more money on your dog than you do on yourself? Also, women disproportionately benefit from these social constructs. Every woman has va…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:46 PM
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I think there are major difference. A cat is clearly just a cat. Women have used social constructs to make men view them as almost child like, when they are not. You completely underestimate what they are capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:41 PM
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That is a very good point, but isn't the best slave a willing one? Here are some good slave qualities that have been bread into men through social constructs: Never complain Work hard Don't be a pussy Be competitive Be willing to die for me So basically what a woman gets with a man is a free psychiatrist, money, and dick. The man basically just gets pussy and a little bit of house work done. I mean I love women and will continue to be a masculine man, but it's more about theorizing. About women …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:39 PM
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What is the black pill? Is it the one where you believe that looks determine everything? I don't really think I'm a black piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:31 PM
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Lol, but what if it is? What if your whole life is a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:28 PM
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Lol. That was easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:03 PM
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Karen is the epitome of female intelligence. She fully utilizes her white privilege to get her way all the time. She's ugly as fuck, but exerts her authority on low socioeconomic individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:03 PM
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I'm not arguing IQ. They focused on having political intelligence. Their slaves were made to be more intelligent in areas so they would be productive. The harder these men work, the more they are rewarded with sex. What they created has slowly went away due to mentions posted in the main post. Like, how was it so bad for the average woman that she couldn't go out and get a job? It would be great to have a society where everyone just expects you to basically stay at home and relax. If you do anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:01 PM
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Do you know this? It seems like they just ban men who promote facts while leaving incels to look like idiots. EDIT: This leaves a group with extreme bias in their favor. If some random dude pops in, he'll say to himself, "Dude, men really are idiots and men's rights are dumb. I'm feminist now." This is because they slowly eliminate strong men by flagging them as "incels" and banning them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:53 PM
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How does women dying from childbirth have anything to do with their social intelligence? See, women used your sex drive against you. They have slowly created less and less violent societies which give women an advantage compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:52 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:50 PM
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Yes, but what do these high IQ men do? They look at ways to get better so that they can have sex with women. When they choose a woman for an LTR, she gets all of the advantages that this man had to work hard for. Who is smarter in this scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:47 PM
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Yes, men are better in math and science. These are tedious tasks that women never really wanted to do so just had their men do it instead. They get all of the benefit from major breakthroughs in science, but never have to do anything. EDIT: Yes, men do love women and defend them. Women always use this to their advantage. Another example of them being smarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:44 PM
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See, they keep the stupid ones around. This is evidence!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:43 PM
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I'll give you a delta because you are the only person who actually gave a reasonable response and your story is probably true. I guess IRL past jobs I've been in an environment where competent women seemed to be treated fairly, but there were a couple females that would bitch about the way they were treated all the time when they were treated the same as men who sucked at their jobs. Like one of the females was a risk to everyone at our work and thought she was discriminated against for being tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:10 PM
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Hmm. It sounds like he has some kind of control issues. Do you have other examples? What led to you believing that he was only doing this to you because you are a woman? In my mind, most men would consider a woman to be more competent when it comes to folding clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:23 PM
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I mean, was it his shirt? I feel like women do the exact same thing in that scenario. My wife is very particular about the way her clothes are folded so gets triggered if I fold them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:16 PM
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Yeah, I feel like the world looks down on the US for voting Trump in because he is an idiot, but doesn't really understand how crazy some things are in the US. I mean, I may be exaggerating a little bit about how bad things are, but there are many stories and personal experiences. Like one of my friends step Dads failed a black guy for a pilot exam and had to go through a 6 month long investigation. I promise you he isn't racist. He was perfectly fine with his daughter being with a black guy and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:07 PM
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Thinking that other people believe dogs are overrated makes me triggered. Dogs are superior to every other pet (except maybe tigers). I could never trust someone who thinks dogs are overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:57 PM
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It may be a matter of time or maybe not. I've been to Canada a decent amount, but don't really know much about their politics. American media is always extremely one-sided which leads to individuals being extremely radical because the media has such a strong influence. It seems as though the PC police are winning out though. In the US, you could lose your job for saying anything that could be twisted into racism/sexism at most companies. On the other hand, minorities or women could literally say…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:52 PM
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If you don't know about it, that's cool. I said this is aimed at women who complain about mansplaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:46 PM
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I guess the CMV is a failure. I was really hoping to have my mind changed by some kind of evidence. :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:44 PM
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This is the conclusion that I have come to. Since people know that this is true, they choose to ban people instead of arguing with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:38 PM
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It's a CMV. I guess everyone agrees with me? I got banned for making this so it seems to have triggered some.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:37 PM
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Sounds like American life. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:33 PM
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She banned me because she felt like it. lol. I guess she was triggered by a rational content man's thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:29 PM
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They may not know the extent of your evil though, or that it is caused by feminism. If you would have been raised by a good family who enforced traditional values you would be happier and would never have taken on this terrible feminazi form. The problem is that feminists act against their own best interests and make everyone unhappy. The reason they do this is because the core group pushing the agenda are lesbians, fat women, and whores who have been pump and dumped so many times that they no l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:28 PM
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No, not butthurt. The world should know that it isn't a free reddit forum. It's run by nazis. Say you live in the United States, wouldn't you want to know if random women were being abducted by the government and murdered? I would so I could form a revolution and rise up against them. If no one says anything, no one knows about the issues at stake. The internet is supposed to be a place with unparalleled free speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:24 PM
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She banned my other account because she was so triggered that I said mansplaining is fake and women should ask smarter questions or not ask them at all. LOL. She seems pretty unstable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:16 PM
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I thought incel shit was hating women for not wanting to sleep with them. a) That's ok. I don't expect to have a "real" debate, but at least something. b) I don't think I've ever leaned on black pill ideology unless I just don't know what black pill is? Isn't black pill saying that all that matters is looks basically? I'm probably not going to go to my other account and message you because I'll probably get banned later anyways or quarantine will be over.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:12 PM
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That sounds kinda like mainstream left in general. There are plenty of left men who don't think that way, but if they ever were to publicly question the privilege that white men have in society, they would be crucified by everyone on the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:03 PM
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I thought the sub was for debates? Does a debate have to be funny? Does purge week make the sub no longer fulfill its original purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:58 PM
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Nah. What's on that sub? I don't really feel like reading it. The only subs I've ever visited are information subs, a couple feminazi subs, bernie sub, trump sub, and red pill briefly. They all seem pretty dumb because they are so one sided on everything. Really just giant circle jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:56 PM
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So, you are saying that you did not ban me due to being extremely triggered by me saying mansplaining is fake? I find that hard to believe considering I've only made a single post a day, while others post pics of trannies and just random shit posts non stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:52 PM
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11: It's purge week and what have I said that is incel content? 9: I agree that you should probably ban this account. My old account wasn't super fresh? I just never really use reddit much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:48 PM
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This is a comment? I'm quarantined so have nothing but free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:47 PM
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Yes, it has gotten rid of me. Good job. +1 for feminazis destroying the world and spreading unhappiness everywhere!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:44 PM
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No, I am married, and would it matter if I was an incel? I guess I was an incel in high school. Does that count? EDIT: I haven't really been an incel since then. I was just socially awkward when young, like many.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:42 PM
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