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Feminism8nother_throw8way/r/MensRights15/01/18 06:49 PM
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And you've presented no evidence for this view, unless you want to say that hormones are the only factor in behavior. I've provided counterevidence and you haven't addressed it. No I don't believe hormones are the only factor. I know genetics play apart in behavior. But I didn't read anything in your article that specifically talked about certain races being more aggressive than others. If I missed it, can you point to where that is? Also I'd wanted to know what type of difference. Cause there a…
/r/MensRights24/03/18 07:46 AM
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I guess I should have been more clear. I was typing on my tablet so I try to keep things as short as I can. I meant specifically talking about behavior, aggression and risk-taking attitudes because the whole point of this conversation is to say that I think there is a bigger difference in the behavior and aggression between men and women than there is between a black man and a white man(genetically). I think the reason why there are 3 times more black men in jail than white men isn't because bla…
/r/MensRights24/03/18 06:54 AM
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Wait - what race argument do you think I'm making?
/r/MensRights24/03/18 06:35 AM
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Here is a study that explains how much our hormones effect our choices, aggression, and behavior. Hormones are dealt out to us mostly by gender. There might be some slight differences between the races as we talked about earlier. But I hope you'd agree with me that women and men have very different hormonal levels. Our hormonal levels are really important and can change our choices. This is why steroids can cause a lot of violence in its users.
/r/MensRights24/03/18 06:23 AM
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Yes, I was suggesting that the difference is negligible. I don't see how it is relevant. The testosterone levels in men are around 600 and the levels in women are around 60. With only a 19% difference in black and white men, compared to women's 60 isn't much at all. So the difference of testosterone levels in men of different races IS negligible when comparing the levels of men to women.
/r/MensRights24/03/18 06:02 AM
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This would depend on what specifically we're looking at. When it comes to my risks of skin cancer and certain diseases then race comes more into play. When it comes to hormone levels(which have a huge part to play in aggression and certain life choices), strength, and certain skills then biology is more important. I'm looking at aggression and risk taking behavior cause that would be more likely to indicate violence and criminal activity. The gene difference between races wouldn't contribute to …
/r/MensRights24/03/18 05:51 AM
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Aww thanks. Hey if I could increase men's life expectancies I would love that. The idea of out living my husband is not even something I want to think about. But I don't know if that's in our control. Just like how little dogs out live big dogs.
/r/MensRights24/03/18 05:16 AM
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I agree that women getting lesser sentences for the same crime is ridiculous and unfair. And I'm sure that they are let off more than men too, which is also unfair and would increase their numbers in jail if they weren't. But when the jails are 93% men (I'm in the US), that's too big of a difference for there still not to be way more men in jail than women if you take into account the women they're letting off. I mean I don't have the stats for how many women they let go for a crime that a man i…
/r/MensRights24/03/18 04:56 AM
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a study in the UK revealed that if women were treated like men in the criminal justice system, half of all prisoners would be female You said IN the criminal justice system. So they would already have to be in jail and the way they're treated in jail makes the difference. That is saying something completely different. The way most prisons treat their criminals only makes them more likely to stay in the system. Not only are you wrong You never gave proof to how I'm wrong. You gave an irrelevant s…
/r/MensRights24/03/18 04:21 AM
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Well to me it feels like the comic is saying that if black men are in jail more than white because of them being oppressed, then that must be true for men in general. But like I stated early I disagree with that. I love to treat men and women equally, but we can't just be blind to the fact that there are some biological and genetic differences. Men are better with spacial navigation, women can see more colors and have a better sense of smell. There are some exceptions, but generally there are a …
/r/MensRights24/03/18 03:59 AM
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No I'm not a lawyer or anything like that. I just know a lot of people who felt the same as you (not being overlooked cause they're a man, but from their race or age) and if you can't supply real proof then how can you prove it? You don't have good enough proof. You seem slightly more qualified, but not enough to where it's not implausible that they just liked her answers better. The case you linked to is a bit different because it wasn't an interview, they were both already employees. It's much…
/r/MensRights24/03/18 03:33 AM
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I didn't saw there wasn't any difference, just not as much. I know there will be some. I've heard of that study before and maybe it has some part to contribute to the numbers of white vs black men in prison. But men have about 600 Testosterone level compared to a woman's 60. So a much greater difference than a black man's to a white man's.
/r/MensRights24/03/18 03:18 AM
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This comic is so stupid. There is a difference between race and gender. Biologically there isn't much of a difference between a black man and a white one. But there is a huge biological difference between men and women. Men have more testosterone than women which makes men more aggressive. Scientific studies show men are more likely to take chances than women. Both of those things can contribute to more men committing crimes than women. Scientists have also discovered many violent men(psychopath…
/r/MensRights24/03/18 02:43 AM
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There are a lot of people who feel they deserved a position and may have been denied due to gender, race, religion, age, or sexual orientation. But unless you have something more to offer to prove that there is nothing you can do. And really you could be wrong about your assumption. Employers look for more than just education and experience, they also look for personality. Don't underestimate the importance of personality in an interview. These people have to work with you, they want to make the…
/r/MensRights24/03/18 02:17 AM
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interesting link First off using a source from a site called Judgy Bitch doesn't invoke a lot of trust in it's journalism skills. The way they write and how they are consistently stating their opinions and throwing the word feminists around, as if they can speak for all of them is just really really bad journalism. Good journalism stays objective and just state facts. I don't know if the stats are correct. But if that is true it makes sense in the regards that most millionaires and billionaires …
/r/MensRights08/03/18 01:04 AM
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I cannot help that I infect others or get infected by STDs. Actually you can, by not having sex or not having safe sex. How about you don't eat? That's a ridiculous counter argument. Sex is not necessary to stay alive, food of course is. Can men and women really refrain from sex? Why should they? Here I absolutely agree with you. We have condoms, and other options available, why not enjoy sex? And yes, women can equally refrain from sex. It shouldn't just be placed on men to refrain. What does t…
/r/MensRights18/02/18 11:11 PM
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It's basically the "Women, can't live with them, can't live without them" joke but reversed and more extreme. Didn't say I thought it was funny. Just that, I think it's obvious that she doesn't actually want to kill all men. Sounds like she just had a really bad experience with a man and is making a generalized joke about how upset she is. Lots of people say, "I'm going to kill you" as an exaggeration/joke to show displeasure.
/r/MensRights27/01/18 07:29 PM
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True.
/r/MensRights27/01/18 07:17 PM
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I'm a feminist and I think that idea is fine. Its not a ton of protection but it could possibly help. Anything that can help prevent rape is never a bad thing. I mean I think a passed out or over drunk girl isn't able to consent to sex so it should be obvious that having sex with her would be rape, but there are a lot of idiots out there that could use an extra reminder.
/r/MensRights23/01/18 06:36 AM
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Unemployment rates between the sexes is pretty even, so her gender has nothing to do with it.
/r/MensRights23/01/18 06:23 AM
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It sounds like she's completely kidding. People in this sub take everything so seriously.
/r/MensRights23/01/18 05:55 AM
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Well I think the only point it might serve is to remind people of what society was like not that long ago. How that generation, which is still alive, treated women. I personally don't think it accomplishes a lot, but I can see the point the artist was trying to make. I do think the artist may have misjudged the way he could get his message across. I don't think today's men are so dense to not realize the sexism in those ads without the role reversal. I think it would have been a lot more effecti…
/r/MensRights22/01/18 05:46 AM
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Well I disagree with it being a hate movement. The movement was created to give women equal rights, not to put men down. If some women went crazy with it and use it to hate and do harm that's not feminism that's just crazy. Just like a Muslim bombing a building because they claim they did it for their god, well that's not real Muslim faith that's crazy. We can't just say things are different from their definition because some did what they wanted with the word.
/r/MensRights21/01/18 10:16 AM
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I think respect should be given on a case by case basis of what each individual does. But you can judge(stereotype) people however you want. I never said anything about people getting certain points because of how they were born so I'm not sure where that comment is comming from.
/r/MensRights21/01/18 09:38 AM
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Yeah I know the history. I didn't say I agree that logic should still stand today.
/r/MensRights21/01/18 02:12 AM
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Well, the point is that emasculating men is terrible. You're not supposed to look at the reversed ads and be okay with them. You're supposed to be outraged at how sexist they are. Because you're feeling the same way the women felt when those ads really were out there. But I don't feel like the reversal is really that necessary. The reversal is really for those men who can't empathize for the women depicted in those ads unless they got to feel the sting themselves of what it might be like. But I …
/r/MensRights21/01/18 01:11 AM
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And you just generalize and stereotype people.
/r/MensRights21/01/18 12:59 AM
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I really disagree with this. The metoo movement isn't at all about priding yourself as a victim. It's to shed light on how prevalent sexual assault is. A lot of women have faced sexual assault or harassment in some way. The movement wasn't meant to make it cool or to equate being a victim as empowered. It's just saying, hey this is a major problem when 80-90% of the women we all know have been assaulted. It's meant to help change societies outlook on what is acceptable treatment of women. Grabbi…
/r/MensRights21/01/18 12:55 AM
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I think the real issue comes down to the safety of society and whether it's believed that the man might commit more rape/assault once released. He had a lot of victims and serial offenders should be scrutinized closely for the chance of them returning to that lifestyle.
/r/MensRights21/01/18 12:19 AM
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Of course there are male feminists. But it puts a completely different perspective on it when a guy holds a sign like that compared to a woman. But I do disagree with that sign. I do believe children first. But women and men should be equal and that saying is too old fashioned for today. Yeah, the marches are huge and it's kind of hard to organize them more clearly and to monitor everyone's sign to match. Like I said they're all individuals with some varied ideas. That's kind of what the march i…
/r/MensRights21/01/18 12:13 AM
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You guys do realize that's a man holding up the "Women and children first" sign. Also each person there is an individual with their own specific thoughts on issues. The woman holding the equal rights are human rights sign might disagree with the man right next to her. It's possible.
/r/MensRights20/01/18 11:57 PM
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I'm sorry I misunderstood you, that's easy to do when typing to strangers on the internet. I agree that men and women civilizing humanity is amazing. We still have a lot of work to do to make the world more fair and less violent. But I hope we can work together to get there. PS, saying, "feminist frenzy" is pretty rude. That would be like me saying you didn't here me over your "man rage." I think we'd all get along better if we didn't resort to finding small ways to put someone else down.
/r/MensRights20/01/18 11:34 PM
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You're saying, men were in fact slaves, in general? Because they were penalized for not providing for their wives? Okay, first most men in the 1880s were not forced to marry. It's their choice whether they even wanted to enter a marriage. I guess there were probably exceptions for some elites/royalty where it was very expected. I've never heard of this penalization for not providing for their wife, I would very much like a source as I couldn't find anything online about it. And to what extent do…
/r/MensRights20/01/18 11:27 PM
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Wow you sure know how to twist something in a really weird way. It sounds like you're justifying violence as an okay thing to do. That you can beat someone and be justified in that action. I can't stand by that. The state punishing society for law breaking is much different from a husband hitting his wife for talking out of turn. The state is in a superior status and it's their responsibility to maintain order. But I don't believe it's right for the husband to be superior to the wife in that reg…
/r/MensRights20/01/18 10:02 PM
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If women were a "precious resource" then why was is legal and common to beat them? This isn't feminist bullshit, this is actual history we're talking about.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 11:49 PM
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I didn't say they WERE slaves, I said they were similar. When you're thought of as the property of your husband and not your own person, then that's pretty close to slavery. If your choice is to be continually abused and raped or starve on the streets and have your children taken from you, well that's not a life filled with a lot of choices.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 11:47 PM
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no one would win in a gender war.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 11:41 PM
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I never said that women didn't face any disadvantages or inequalities, I just didn't want to get into a contest of which gender has it worse because I think that's ridiculous. Every group has some sort of disadvantage they face. I didn't want this conversation to turn that way cause to me that's not the point. The point is feminism was born in a time when women suffered a lot of inequalities, we needed feminism. It did grow and change a lot and some people took it one way and some took it anothe…
/r/MensRights19/01/18 06:40 PM
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OOhhhhh, so you're an asshole and a hypocrite. Okay, I get it now. Why you would want a gender war is beyond me. I truly believe you must be a sociopath so I won't respond to anymore of your comments. I only want to talk to sane people that actually give a fuck about other people and aren't mentally insane. I'm really sorry that you weren't held enough as a baby and this is how you turned out. Later Troll.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 06:08 PM
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The term feminism means its only meant to help women become equal to men in political, social, economic, and legal areas. By definition it's not a service to aid men. BUT you can believe in women being equal on all those fronts AND still help men. It wouldn't be feminism technically. But you can be a feminist who wants to help men, you can also be an equalists. This woman in the video is an equalist feminist, which I think is a great thing.
/r/MensRights19/01/18 06:03 PM
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I would agree that both men and women would have little say in arranged marriages and both could be miserable. But women did have fewer rights in a marriage and that was something feminism helped fix. I agree that women need to be taken care of to have a society prosper, but I would disagree that women were taken care of fairly in many cultures. There is a bare minimum of what is expected for women to survive with their children and what is actually fair. Women just had very few choices and say …
/r/MensRights19/01/18 05:58 PM
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No it didn't remain her property. The husbands got to keep the dowry and anything that was the woman's became the husbands and the woman wouldn't always be able to keep the item even after the husband's death. I suppose it's possible that we're talking about different times and different places, where the rules would change. But I'm talking about Europe in the 1800s. You say daughters had the right for a husband. But really daughters didn't have much of a choice. In many cases they weren't allow…
/r/MensRights19/01/18 05:47 PM
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A lot of men didn't even have to marry if they didn't want to. It was possible for them to be a bachelor or remain one for much longer than a woman. Plus marriage between men and women were very unequal. It was very common for men to find sexual relationships outside of a marriage, where a woman definitely couldn't. Men could divorce women for adultery but women couldn't divorce men for it. Many men had mistresses or visited prostitutes and their wives couldn't stop themselves from receiving STD…
/r/MensRights18/01/18 06:46 PM
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This claim is so far divorced from reality that it doesn't have a hope of seeing its kids again. Hey-o! A femme covert was still allowed to work and earn money, money which she could do whatever she wanted. It was the husband's duty to provide for her needs, and if he made her spend her own money on her own needs, that was a punishable crime. Yes, he was responsible for managing whatever estate she might have, but that was only done so because such things were seen (many would argue rightly so) …
/r/MensRights18/01/18 06:28 PM
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In the 1800s women had little to no say in who they would marry. They were handed off from their father's care to their husbands. They couldn't own property, vote, run for office, or work in most fields. They could be beaten and raped in their marriage with no aide or legal actions to take. There is a mountain of other inequalities they were faced with, but those ones sound pretty close to slavery to me.
/r/MensRights18/01/18 06:08 PM
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I see her as a feminist. You're definition of a feminist is not what I consider the right definition. That's why I'm trying to spread CHS about, so we can change this. The start of feminism wasn't toxic, and I don't want it to end that way. We need to push for more equality feminists.
/r/MensRights18/01/18 06:06 PM
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What I'm trying to say is SOME feminist might have an anti-male view points. I can't deny that they're aren't toxic feminists out there. But I'm not anti-male and many other feminists aren't either. It's like how a lot of people hate Muslims because they think they're all terrorists. Well a few are extreme and did bad things, but they aren't all like that and it's not right to condemn the whole lot of them when that's not what the religion is about. But, I do have to admit, I'm very turned off m…
/r/MensRights18/01/18 06:03 PM
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Not as much hate as the word "man" attracts. This is a perspective. I, personally, would disagree with you. I don't feel like "man" is a hated word. But the real thing to keep in mind isn't, which of us is right and which of us is wrong. But why do I feel the way I feel and you feel the way you feel and how can we change that. We're both on the defensive and defensive people tend to not hear the other side too well because they're focused on defending for the attack they believe is coming. You h…
/r/MensRights18/01/18 05:50 PM
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Women have been disadvantaged in those ways. Sure feminism was more in need some years ago when we couldn't vote or hold office, etc. We're doing a ton better, but we have some areas where we're still having a tough time. Even if society was equal for all of women's rights, you can still claim to be a feminist in the sense that you're just saying you agree it should be that way. It's ridiculous to get into a 'which gender has it worse?' argument because we both have really terrible shit to deal …
/r/MensRights18/01/18 05:37 PM
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SOME feminists have done damage. Some go too far. But it's not all feminism or feminism itself. It's kind of like how people use religions to justify killing others. The religion itself isn't necessarily bad (lets please not get into a religion debate) but some people go too far with it and use it to hurt others. Some people will grab anything they can claim as justification to do the damage they want to do. I don't agree with the feminism that hurts anybody.
/r/MensRights18/01/18 05:18 PM
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I'm sure you're right in the fact that they are a minority in their behavior (sadly). I'm really hoping to have a positive equality feminism emerge. I know some of the history of feminism. Mostly that the term feminism was created in the late 1800s by a french man. He noticed the very little rights women had. That they couldn't even speak out of the rape and physical abuse that went on in their marriage. He helped women and he created the term with the meaning that women should gain equality in …
/r/MensRights15/01/18 08:43 PM
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I'm sure you're right about a lot of the issues having existed longer. I hope now that they're started to get noticed the next step is change.
/r/MensRights15/01/18 08:29 PM
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You can never say, "ALL" when it comes to anything. You have never met all the feminists in the world. You haven't met me. I believe in women having equal rights in social, economic, legal and political areas. But I also think that it's possible for men and other groups to suffer from issues as well. I don't want one group to suffer because of the aid of another. Feminism is just about helping women get equal rights. It really has nothing to do with men's rights. But I happen to also care about …
/r/MensRights15/01/18 07:58 PM
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I really feel like if this is the case the legal system should switch it's focus to the bar being the criminal. I think it's reasonable for a guy to assume a girl is 21 if she's at a bar. If something happened and he got in trouble for being with her, the bar should take the blame for allowing a minor in and thus deceiving the legal patrons. It's unreasonable to expect guys to ask to see a girl's ID before sex and to be able to spot a fake ID.
/r/MensRights15/01/18 07:50 PM
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It feels like "Feminist" is a really bad word now a days. And I get the hate. There are some extremists who take feminism way too far. They gave a really bad name to feminism, which was a movement initially started by a man to help women achieve equal rights in a time when they were basically slaves. We've come a long way and I think that is so awesome. We aren't equal on all fronts, but we've made some amazing progress. But with these improvements for women, there are men that need help too. Th…
/r/MensRights15/01/18 06:55 PM
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