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Discrimination8unn3h/r/MensRights10/04/17 08:10 PM
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I know. I've seen too many guys get upset and swear up and down that they haven't lost sensation, even though they were cut at birth.. so it's painfully obvious that they have no point of comparison. It's heartbreaking. But still, we have reason on our side and all the information is available on the internet, so I think sometimes just planting a seed of doubt is enough. It's a hard pill to swallow for sure. Edit: gonna leave this link here, just in case there's anyone reading this who doesn't k…
/r/MensRights16/01/18 09:52 PM
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An unfortunate choice of title, but the main point is very sound: misandry is accepted and normalized even by most men. Edit: Of course, some are more misandrous than others and in many different ways. It's just that negative attitudes and expectations towards men are very rarely criticized.
/r/MensRights16/01/18 06:03 PM
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True. In fact that's exactly why the practice orignally started: to make the penis less sensitive and sex less pleasurable. To quote another MRA(I forget who, sorry): "We sometimes talk about botched circumcisions, but we shouldn't forget that the entire purpose of circumcision is to botch (ruin) the penis".
/r/MensRights16/01/18 05:43 PM
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I think there's a misunderstanding here. The comment above doesn't say anything about women, it's about marriage. You don't have to get married to have a relationship, and I agree that you probably shouldn't. (Even if we put aside the disadvantages, is there any incentive at all for a man to get married?) Basically, you've unintentionally made a strawman argument.
/r/MensRights04/10/17 05:44 PM
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I was actually pointing out that a summation is the closing statement made in a court room. The more accurate word you were seeking was summary. The only thing you offended was my incurable grammarnazism. OH, so that's what you meant! Sorry, it went completely over my head, probably because I'm not a native speaker. Thank you for the correction though, I actually appreciate grammar nazism as it helps me improve! I'm not quite convinced by some of the things you said, but overall I think we want …
/r/MensRights14/07/17 09:25 PM
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This isn't a trial. Fair enough. That part about gender politics was tongue-in-cheek, but I really don't know enough about them to make a judgement. I mostly think it's baffling that they're even a thing. And sorry if I offended, it wasn't my intention. Anyway, tbh, the tweets didn't really pick my attention, but your comment did: you gave a definition of feminism, one of sexism, and stated that "It's also not sexist to respect one gender more than another." I just wanted to say I disagree with …
/r/MensRights14/07/17 04:35 PM
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Sexism is the belief that one gender is superior, not more deserving of respect. According to a bunch of dictionaries (and common use of the word IME), "sexism" means "discrimination on the basis of gender or sex". In other words, you are sexist if you treat people differently because of their gender. So, according to this definition, it's definitely sexist to respect one gender more than another. And feminism is very clearly a sexist movement as it treats men and women differently. If you have …
/r/MensRights14/07/17 12:43 PM
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It's remarkable how Greg feels like he's being "that guy" while K is unapologetically, disgustingly sexist in a way that would never fly if the genders were reversed.
/r/MensRights09/07/17 11:12 AM
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Yeah, I took a quick look at the channel (it's full of clickbait) and I get the feeling their business is talking down to/guilting insecure guys so they stay insecure and keep coming back for more.
/r/MensRights08/07/17 12:04 PM
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'female circumcision' (I hate that name because it makes it sound like its not a big deal) Heh, I can't help but find this a little morbidly funny: it would sound like it's not a big deal because 'circumcision' is what we call MGM, which we think of as not a big deal.
/r/MensRights08/07/17 01:25 AM
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Holy fuck this is sick. Community Media Trust (CMT) – a not-for-profit company that specialises in communication in the fields of health, human rights and gender based violence These people are not idiots, there is no way they haven't done their research. They must know it's bullshit, but they promote circumcision anyway. By shaming men into it, telling them to man up. And notice the "gender based violence" part? I'd bet you anything that they're feminists. This IS hatred of men. From their own …
/r/MensRights21/06/17 06:17 PM
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It's also the sadistic fun the ad pokes at fathers. Other than the title, there's also Su tranquilidad està en nuestras manos "His comfort/peace of mind is in our hands". Which sounds pretty much like a not-so-veiled threat. Idk, am I being too sensitive? Edit: come to think of it, "Su tranquilidad" might be a more formal way of saying "Your peace of mind". I'm not sure, maybe someone who actually speaks Spanish can clarify?
/r/MensRights14/06/17 08:09 PM
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Late 90s in my case. It was in Italy though.
/r/MensRights09/06/17 02:03 PM
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I wonder if this sort of thing is more common than we think. I've seen the same in elementary school (ages 6 to 11): a boy pulled up a girl's skirt, the teacher saw, then she personally pulled his pants down in front of everyone. I'm pretty sure there was at least another teacher present, since it was recess and they used to hang out while keeping an eye on us kids. Imagine if the genders were reversed and it had been a male teacher pulling down a girl's pants. I don't think this is okay at all …
/r/MensRights09/06/17 11:42 AM
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On tv, while crying like an overgrown baby. It's pathetic and disgraceful. I forget who invented it, but "crybully" sounds like the perfect word for these people.
/r/MensRights04/06/17 08:55 PM
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I'm in a hurry, but wanted to drop a quick critique, hopefully it makes sense (also, I realize this probably sounds conservative, but I am anything but: I just want to give a different perspective): It also disadvantages women like Jenny who could have put their brains to use. She will never realise her full potential if she resigns herself to be a homemaker. There was no need for her to settle down and have a child when she was 20 years old. In the era of maternity and paternity leave she could…
/r/MensRights30/05/17 12:39 PM
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DNA tests are an anti-feminist appliance Meaning feminism is not about evening the playing field, but about having the option to take advantage of men. But feminism is gender equality and these bad feminists are made of straw, right? Melanie McDonagh is a leaderwriter for the Evening Standard and Spectator contributor.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 11:27 PM
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Yeah this is insane. "Preservation of peace within the family"? Right, I'm sure a hefty fine and one year in prison will keep the family healthy. Just for having doubts that you may have been cheated into this huge life-changing endeavour that is raising children. I'm honestly having trouble thinking of this as anything other than a bullshit excuse to punish men. Really, preserving the peace, at that point in a relationship? With prison time? For wanting to know the truth? I am speechless. Edit:…
/r/MensRights26/05/17 10:52 PM
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Making people hate is the easiest way to control them. Feminists know this, and they never hesitate to play the hate card whenever it gives them button-pushing power they seek, to control a robotic populace eager to indulge in hate. Very interesting point. The woman you're talking about is Edith Cavell right? The paragraph on propaganda is also particularly relevant.
/r/MensRights23/05/17 12:08 PM
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Just a troll. In fact she's probably an ally, considering how she paints feminism as female supremacy and calls circumcision for what it is. Effective too, given the 1200+ comments! Anything that sparks a discussion is good.
/r/MensRights03/05/17 01:40 PM
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Ha, you know how MRAs are supposedly rape apologists? Well here's a feminist rape apologist! "See my boy, you suffered because of male privilege. She raped you to retaliate against patriarchal oppression. She literally couldn't help it, you really can't blame her". These people are insane.
/r/MensRights01/05/17 03:03 PM
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I mean, sure, but doesn't that attitude create grief and even real discrimination? (Say you're looking for someone to help take care of an elderly relative, or maybe a babysitter. Would you even consider a guy for the job? The vast, vast majority of people wouldn't.) Could that attitude lead to overlooking perps of the opposite gender? But anyway, wouldn't it be more productive to ask ourselves why it's usually a man, so that we can try to make a positive change? No one really does this (unless …
/r/MensRights28/04/17 02:54 PM
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Classic. Another fun one is if you look for the definition of sexism virtually every result says something along the lines of "usually against women" or "misogyny in particular" (misandry is rarely mentioned). Luckily the 4th result(for me) looks like a helpful explanation of why that is! Hell, a few days ago I looked up benevolent sexism and the first result is a bustle.com list that literally has "Men are assholes" as an example of benevolent sexism. I guess this is what happens when an ideolo…
/r/MensRights28/04/17 02:23 PM
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What gets me is that they could simply campaign against genital mutilation without making it gendered. No additional effort required. But no. They would never. That would mean being compassionate to men. No can do. Sometimes I feel like a freak just for sympathising with men. Why are people like this?
/r/MensRights25/04/17 07:53 PM
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Exactly. My answer to your op would be that both MRAs and feminists can be good or bad, after all anyone can claim the labels as long as their ideas have some similarity to what the rest of the group says. However, I think it's vital that MRAs be heard because feminism has dominated the discourse for a very long time and that has lead to real, tangible discrimination against men being overlooked (ie: forced military service, circumcision, prison conditions, sentencing gap, family law, Duluth-mod…
/r/MensRights25/04/17 04:37 PM
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Eh, she's extemely biased. She gives consideration only to men in positions of power, never men who suffer because of prejudice, and viceversa for women. She also treats sexism like a competition for some reason. "Ladies first!!!"
/r/MensRights16/04/17 01:54 PM
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We're conditioned to not be bothered by such things from an early age, while the opposite sex is conditioned to be bothered by it to the extreme, completely opposite set of upbringing. The sad thing is that this applies to violence and abuse in general. People just aren't as bothered by violence against men, it's almost normal in many scenarios.
/r/MensRights14/04/17 08:15 PM
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Yup. I've seen this a million times. The notion that sexism equals discrimination against women and only women, or that when a man does something traditionally feminine he gets backlash because society hates femininity. In reality, everyone gets sexism when they act against their gender roles. Being compared to a woman is bad for a man just as being compared to a man is bad for a woman (tomboy, etc.). Femininity is cherished in women, masculinity in men. It's so obvious, you can see it every day…
/r/MensRights13/04/17 10:16 PM
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I don't actually know what I'm talking about here, but I guess you could argue that the fearless girl statue wouldn't have the same significance without the bull as it has now. In other words she uses the bull to convey her own meaning, so that might be where the copyright claim comes from. Once again though I'm just a nidiot on the internet, talking out my ass.
/r/MensRights13/04/17 01:10 PM
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Agreed. Best of luck to you, brother.
/r/MensRights12/04/17 06:02 PM
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Shit, sorry to hear that. My own mother is not that different, and it took me 25 years just to start understanding how it affected me. I hope you and your son are doing okay. As for OP, if he's for real we can only hope the courts keep him away from the kid. Seeing these cycles of abuse firsthand is the main thing that brought me to men's rights, even if the movement is nonexistant in my country. There are too many ways in which men or boys who need help slip through the cracks, and the same for…
/r/MensRights12/04/17 05:13 PM
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Yeah, it's extremely fucked up. I think I just responded fairly harshly to one of your previous comments btw. Sorry about that. I just think he's not likely to change his mind on the child if all he gets is more hate. Fucked up people need help or they'll just get worse, I have some personal experience with that too. Edit: he might just be a troll tbh. His comments seem so focused on either revenge or being a victim.
/r/MensRights12/04/17 04:36 PM
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You disgust me, man. People like you are the reason people like my ex have personality disorders and mental illness. You probably have one yourself. Poignant. Maybe he does have a personality disorder. Maybe he'll develop one after being blamed and shamed for something he's being forced into that'll change his life forever. He is dead wrong in wanting to take revenge on the child, I'm not arguing against that. But have you considered that you might be contributing to the cycles of hate that fuck…
/r/MensRights12/04/17 04:31 PM
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Your post is full of stereotypes man... You're assuming that the guy is inept and didn't try to have a proper talk with his partner, and that she would care about what he wants. This might be the case or not, but you're just taking it for granted and blaming him. Also He was able to convince her to have sex with him. Seriously, even a feminist would give you shit for this. Women want sex too, why do you assume he had to convince her? Hopefully the attraction was mutual. You also condescendingly …
/r/MensRights12/04/17 04:00 PM
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Maybe even more importantly, boys and men should receive the same help and compassion that women get. And those who ridicule them should be shamed and ostracized as much as if they were doing it to a woman. I doubt it'll ever happen, honestly. The world just doesn't have the same empathy towards men. Just look at all the massive organizations devoted to ending violence against women, like this, meanwhile there are male-only torture camps in chechnya; every day I hear about beatings that would si…
/r/MensRights11/04/17 06:24 PM
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Sounds like you're describing traditional gender roles. I think lots of people here(myself included) object to the term "patriarchy" because it's gendered and negative with respect to men, but in reality gender norms are not man-centric.
/r/MensRights11/04/17 06:05 PM
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It was pretty much the same when I was in high school. It didn't happen all the time, but it's a fact that everyone could come and go from the boys' locker room no matter their gender. Girls, the female PE teacher, school staff, you name it. Sometimes people also had sex in the restrooms, obviously only the male restrooms, because guys don't care or aren't supposed to care. And that's the problem: since elementary school, kids were taught different levels of respect based on gender (it goes beyo…
/r/MensRights07/04/17 02:46 PM
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Ah, ok I get it. Sorry, I'm a bit sensitive on the issue because I see/hear it all the time, but can't really speak up about it with anyone.
/r/MensRights02/04/17 12:24 PM
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Can you share your sources? (No snark intended, I'm very interested in this, but the obvious bias in the article makes me doubt its reliability.) Also, ethical concerns with your comment: I think all men should get this done at the age of 13, and then have a free removal at their own leisure. It should be a choice, not forced. Just as you wouldn't force women to get birth control, especially things like IUDs. You frame the issue as: we, as men, should become the gate keepers of fertility. stop f…
/r/MensRights02/04/17 12:17 PM
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It's not defensible at all IMO. It's prejudice. They just have this preconception that all the big companies are run exclusively by this demographic and that these people "would never do it" for no other reason than they belong to this demographic. While on the other hand "If those companies were run by women, it would be totally different." Which is the same fallacy. You might be used to this bullshit by now (I see it all the time in the media and I'm not even american), but really it's nothing…
/r/MensRights02/04/17 11:27 AM
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My one critique is your use of that greek alphabet ranking of men. Human society and interactions are far more complex than any pack animal and the notion that a less dominant(?) man is somehow inferior is very misandristic IMO. You do yourself a disservice by buying into that mentality. That said, the criteria for competence that you highlighted do seem to reflect that kind of mentality. I bet the criteria for women are vastly different too (they used military tests for men, really?) Also heads…
/r/MensRights01/04/17 11:47 AM
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I gotta say. That sounded very clickbaity, but really it's not. The author is a psychologist and actually a self described feminist, and the quote is from the start of chapter 9 (page 100). I think this is definitely worth reading. Thanks for sharing. Edit: I just realized your link already highlights the quote, sorry! For some reason that didn't work for me the first time i clicked.
/r/MensRights01/04/17 01:01 AM
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Yeah, pretty standard for trollx, but at least this bullshit is clear and obvious. There's another awful concept here that bothers me even more because it's more subtle and I've seen it in many not so radical subs and even heard in real life sadly: men are taught that [...] acting like a "girl" is bad. [...] girls are taught this too, except we're taught that we're inherently weak and bad. [...] ...considering how little we are valued. Basically the concept that society looks down on femininity.…
/r/MensRights31/03/17 05:35 PM
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Thanks for the link, I've been meaning to educate myself on the various feminisms as soon as I have time and uh, brain space. And good on you for trying to have a debate! I don't think reddit is a very good platform for that though, what with the votes limiting the visibility of comments and the community being all over the place. You might have better luck on subreddits like FeMRADebates (I can't really vouch for it though, haven't spent much time there).
/r/MensRights31/03/17 01:19 AM
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Great suggestions. I've been in the same position as OP once (though the topic was that only women are discriminated against) and I can confirm that every single kid either ate up what the teacher said, or they learned from my example not to speak up about it. So this is important. Also wanted to say it's funny you assume the principal is a man; I've never had a male principal in any of the schools I went to (I'm not american though)! I know you most likely did it unthinkingly, but, well be care…
/r/MensRights16/03/17 03:45 PM
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