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This didn't need multiple paragraphs. It's true. I can't believe it got downvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:40 PM
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honestly, just some real basic things -dressing modestly. -being nice/having a pleasant overall demeanor -being completely disconnected from clubbing/nightlife -being able to talk. For some reason men get all the heat for not carrying a conversation, but the vast majority of women literally just sit there like a brick wall and have no idea how to talk to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:51 PM
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I've asked this exact question plenty of times and usually people that are strongly anti-manosphere or anti-redpill will rage quit the conversation, because they haven't actually thought about that. They never think about what's the alternative. And usually (and i've seen a couple posts in this thread) just tell men to revert back to blue-pill stuff like "just be yourself and treat women like queens...yadda yadda yadda....you'll get one eventually".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:29 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 01:59 PM
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"social skills" don't really exist. Most of the time people treat you better or worse depending on how good-looking you are. Even with platonic context. Attractive men are usually describe as having all the good social qualities without having to do anything, while men that aren't as attractive have to actually prove it. some people like the concept of "social skills" because everybody wants to feel like they're actually doing something that they worked on or created. It's not impressive to say …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:44 PM
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you're looking at it wrong. Those men have so few options that they are trying to make that one option work. It's hard for people that aren't average men to understand that for some reason. Most women and attractive men seem to think these average (aka "ugly") guys are just doing it wrong and need to just talk to more women and just have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:07 PM
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"Holding other men accountable" is stupid because women will still go back to the other men. It's basically like when you see those DV situations and some "white knight" tries to step in, what usually happens is the women starts attacking the white knight too, defending her shitty boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:17 PM
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An even tougher job...Captain Step Father...to Toxic Man's children.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:15 PM
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Don't attribute this stuff to Andrew Tate. Guys like him just use RP information to build a platform. He, like a lot of other youtube fake RP guys, is really just a white supremacist using RP stuff to appear logical. I've said it before and i'll say it again, alot of RP information is pretty accurate, and there's a reason most people stick to debating the extreme goofy shit that people like Andrew Tate add on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:27 PM
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pre-selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 07:11 PM
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this is what women tell themselves. And this is what women try to force men to care about. always acting like your jobs and degrees matter to a man, they don't. And I said it in another post, but a lot of you women are speaking about tippy top 1% guys like Bezos. A wealthy or well off man isn't really worried about whether she comes from some upper middle class background. Just whether she acts the way he wants her to, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:05 AM
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I think a lot of people are focusing too much on the Burger King example and not the point, but you have a good point. Alot of woman consider their male co-workers beneath them even though they make near the same salaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:09 PM
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You're only looking at rich business men. Rich entertainers/athletes pull from the lower middle class all the time. Some of these women literally become famous for being nothing other than being the girlfriends of these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:59 PM
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The point is men for the most part aren't accounting for her job, money, "clout" level, etc...so whether she works at law firm or a fast food place, there is no heirarchy with that type of criteria for men. The exception being sexworker related jobs...exotic dancers, OF, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:57 PM
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A lot of the redpill information is correct. But you also have to keep in mind many of these people use redpill content for ulterior motives. Don't follow the man, follow the information. Don't follow they extreme shit either. But yes, again, alot of redpill content is deadly accurate. There's a reason people often respond by calling men "incel" then running off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:53 PM
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too picky and not picky enough. this is just another way of saying women use double standards. the inconsistency. Attractive guy doesn't have to really do anything Average/Below Average guy has to be perfect at all times for the entirety of the relationship. He also has to overcome the mistakes Attractive guy committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:09 PM
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a good majority of current "redpill content" is videos of women talking and a man just presenting it so other men can see how women are thinking straight from the source. And those women aren't making those videos for men, they're literally having online discourse for other women to consume. So I agree with OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:17 PM
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you're correct, BUT when people have disagreements with men or when people want to talk about a man's status level...THE FIRST THING THEY USE TO MEASURE THAT MEN IS HOW SUCCESSFUL HE IS A GETTING WOMEN. people will immediately start calling men some version of an incel. so it's not JUST men, focusing on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:12 PM
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anecdotal. and i'm not going to go into adults speaking on a teenage looks. That's something i'm not even trying to talk about, respectfully. edit: dumb question though...when you started partying did you become a "mean girl"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:58 PM
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Derrick Jaxn built a whole platform off of it. He makes a lot of money doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:53 PM
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it's entry-level pandering.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:51 PM
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you are making up strawman arguments then telling me to "do some research". SMH You're backtracking on the: not only attract women with existing baggage (ie. childhood trauma, a poor relationship history in her teens, a bad personal history), low self worth and self esteem, as well as with potential mental/personality disorders You're clearly saying that RP tells men to seek out "broken" women, when it doesn't. As a matter of fact, what you're describing is like extreme 70's pimp bullshit. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:49 PM
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where does redpill tell men to specifically search out women with low self esteem? these blatant strawmanning posts are funny. they keep one upping each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:37 PM
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you're projecting this idea that men are attracted to "exciting" women like most (not all) women are. Men and women look for different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:33 PM
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men care about easiest access to sex, not a women being as sexy as possible. Of course, there is a floor to that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:28 PM
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if a woman is NOT ugly she is receiving attention. Hell even ugly women receive attention. Regardless of what her demeanor is. Don't just say stuff because you think it sounds equivalent to men. Your post sounds like your views are coming from watching teen shows on the CW with all this "guys skip over the nerdy girl for popular mean girls" stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:23 PM
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this is pure projection. it's the commonly used "men do it too" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:18 PM
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I've brought it up multiple times. LOL. Toxic men are basically never single. There's always another woman lined up to receive his toxicity too. It's a huge reason so many good guys end up "redpill". They see clearcut trash-men pulling all the women, yet the message they get told is "just treat women with respect...yadda yadda yadda queens....be yourself". And no, i'm not on that goofy "be an asshole" stuff. Don't lower yourself to that type of stuff over some woman, keep your morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:16 PM
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For some, yes. Think about the Mike Jones song "Back then they didn't want me, now I'm hot they all on me"...how would you look at somebody that didn't want you when you were "in progress", but once something about your life greatly improved, all of a sudden they want to talk to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:50 PM
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you seem to have it figured out a lot sooner than other guys. A lot of this chasing stuff and "self improvement" stuff on the men's side doesn't really matter. Women like what they like, and they are going to do what they want to do at the drop of a hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:42 PM
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Dating, growing up around them, working with them, conversations, comparing what the say they want with who they actually date, listening to what they, living in society. There seems to be their silly notion floating around that if a man is not dating women that the rest of his life he spends around men all day every day. Like the whole "men are invisble" thing is more true than people think. A lot of women think men don't exist outside of attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:35 PM
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OP seems like one of those people that think the men on those extreme shows are searching far and wide for broken-women or paying these women to look bad. It's denial. Most women simply don't understand how bad they sound until they hear their own rhetoric be questioned. Most of these women think they are spitting facts when they're in their all female echo chambers, but when they see basic pushback they start realize how it makes women look and still can't help but blame the men. And yes, i thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:29 PM
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why do women preach "accept me as I am" and "body positivity" but men are constantly told to improve?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:18 PM
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this post is the epitome of strawmanning.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:09 PM
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Most men and women are both ''hypergamous'' in the sense that they prefer and desire a partner with higher mate value; however most relationships are assortive, meaning both partners are similar in attractiveness level, education and socioeconomic status. [1][2][3] i'm so tired of this myth that men are hypergamous. People only say this because they don't want women to look bad. LOL Men are not constantly looking for the best woman on earth, constantly monkey branching upwards to the next "bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:08 PM
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this is exactly what i said in another post. Men take the path of least resistance, not "let me compete for the hottest models on Earth". A lot people on here, mainly women, believe men think like women. They think men use hypergamy and seek out the "best woman possible".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:07 AM
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A "Chad" isn't worried about "inferior" or superior or whatever language you use. A Chad is dealing with women that he comes across in his daily life that are easy to smash that are decent looking. This is what a lot of people here don't get. A Chad is the guy that is "sexual harassment" proof at his job and can fuck the 5's- 8's with zero effort. He doesn't have this female mindset of getting the best women possible and "holding out". LMAO. Yes, Chad is smashing those 5's and 6's. That's why th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:03 AM
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this is a very insulting way to say men are more realistic in their expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:39 PM
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then the RP is wrong to suggest that men should make women chase them? is the RP wrong for suggesting that men should be the centre of attention strawmanning. RP is just learning the truth about things and acting accordingly. It's not PUA bullshit, or "make her chase you" bullshit, or pure misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:58 PM
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we all have horror stories about trying to have a conversation with a woman and she just sits there like a brickwall.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:37 PM
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exactly. If women just flat out said "we're going to treat different men differently" there would be nothing to discuss. But women try to flip it into "standards" and those "standards" only show up when it's an unattractive guy or a guy who's average at best. But anybody who's aware, knows that women always have to make themselves appear to have moral highground so they end up saying one thing, but their actions often times are completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:25 PM
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What men say is different from what they do. this is projection. Women are the ones that say they have standards, then show up to Thanksgiving introducing their family Neck-tat Prison Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:19 PM
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it just goes to show that you don't REALLY have "standards". It's all just goofy bullshit you use for non-attractive guys so you don't look like the ruthless asshole you really are towards average or below guys. If all men have to meet 1 standard their is nothing we can say. I can't believe this has to be explained, and I can't believe people are still even trying to make men wrong for clearly pointing out the usage of basic double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:15 PM
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LOL...nice try. LMAO...women still don't communicate with AFFIRMATIVE WORDS "consent". This is the world men have to live in because taking a risk like grabbing her ass can still have legal consequences down the line. Let's not play stupid. This is the current "MeToo" world women have established. And let me say this...most men are NOT trying to disrespect women, that's why the guy in the OP felt like a creep because without directly saying it, he's showing what's it like to straddle the line be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:36 PM
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that's the thing, modern women will never collectively tell us what IS acceptable or not. They want us to guess and take risks. Then they get on her telling people "its so easy".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:10 PM
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part of the problem is HE GUESS STILL HAD TO TAKE A RISK AND GUESS. women don't communicate shit to men about what is respectful and what's not. The guy is correct to feel like a creep doing that because believe it or not men aren't trying to disrespect women. yes in 2024 doing what that guy did on a 2nd date is "bad boy things". 2nd date is not "his girl".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:06 PM
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it's about controlling the sex AND his sexual pleasure. In some cases, if the man handles "it" himself he's taken her sexual power away.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:21 PM
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This is why i hate when these youtube idiot "redpill" guys constantly use the word "submissive". In most people minds, the immediately imagery is slave. Most guys just want a woman that is easy to deal with. Not an employee. Are we on the same page? Or is she going to argue any and everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:57 PM
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It's super disrespectful and the guy in these situations will be gaslit and called insecure for clearly seeing her act "different" around an attractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 03:44 PM
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despite what people claim, most men aren't THAT caught up on women having a certain body type. People see "just don't be morbidly obese" and they flip it to "you said you want a skinny supermodel". Two different statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:40 PM
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all this is exactly how i feel about RP. It's not this "go work out and level up bro" shit. It's simply about recognizing the reality of the world, like you said. People keep trying to lump in fitness plans, or get rich quick schemes, or PUA bullshit into it. Oddly enough i see that stuff as more Blue Pill because you're telling men that if you check off some kind of social status boxes you'll be entitled to the women you want. Its no better than telling men "just be nice to women, call them que…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:13 PM
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i didn't know it was something to "practice". To me "redpill" just means accepting reality. Accepting the nature of men and women and being done with delusion. Like the metaphor suggests, it's simply about "waking up". All the silly shit about working out or making more money isn't really what RP is about. It's filler to sell lifestyle plans to gullible men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:06 PM
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nah, i like the topic. It shows how stupid people have become choosing a bear. I want them out in the open wearing this stupid scenario like a scarlet letter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 05:57 PM
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Another way to put it is: Don't think being a "good guy"..."nice person"..."kind person"....will ENTITLE you to getting the women you want. You do that because you are supposed to just be a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:56 PM
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the whole topic became a temperature check to see which men were simps and panderers openly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:53 PM
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exactly. people want to be have it both ways. Somehow "redpill incels" never have contact with women, but also in relationships "manipulating" women. They can't make up their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:45 PM
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i tried to point this out in that other thread. People keep trying to imply that men date women based on power and oppression. It's one of those things that goes to show that SOME women have no idea what men want, even though men are extremely simple. high or low self esteem in a woman doesn't matter to men. any man telling women this is pandering to them. edit: also another element to this that i notice is if women see a woman with a man that they deem is "below" her in looks, she'll assume the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:38 PM
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high and low self esteem doesn't matter. Men tend to deal with women that are easy to deal with or show "cooperation" as they say. Her level of self esteem doesn't matter. I see other posts on here pushing that stupid idea that men are running around looking for women to "control" or "wield power over". Men are looking for the smoothest path to sex and/or relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:27 PM
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so men shouldn't use their "advantages" in dating? Most passport bros i've seen aren't dangling green cards because they have no plans of bringing those women back to the states. Many passports bros try to become ex-pats. And believe it or not, not every person on earth want to leave their home countries to come to the US. Let's not be arrogant. my god some of yall makes up a lot of made up narratives against those men AND WOMEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:53 AM
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how is it racist?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:44 AM
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again, MOST passport bros are pulling average women in foreign countries. The problem people like you have is that you've been told that average women are all "10s". Your (our) optics are completely destroyed in America. You see 2 average people, but you get on here calling the man ugly for being average. Yall can't help it. Those guys aren't going to foreign countries pulling Giselle Bunchen's like Tom Brady did, they're pulling average looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:34 AM
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the difference isn't money though. this is people trying to apply an american "standard" to a foreign country. The difference is women treat them better in those places. People keep strawmanning and bringing up money because despite the lies people tell on here, American women go for either Chads or money. The whole "those women just want your money" thing is a projection. The best part is American women and simps constantly call me broke, but all of a sudden "they want you money". Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:30 AM
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what are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:27 AM
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how is that any different than* western countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:03 PM
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most passport bros aren't going to these people getting women better than them, they end up with women on their level. American men have just been told that average women are levels above them. Most passport bros are just pulling average women in those countries, our visuals in the west have been completely destroyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:07 PM
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I see no problem with it, myself. But most people's real issue with passport bros is that it destroys what people have been taught about average men in western countries. For decades people have been told that men make up any and all errors in dating/relationships/society. All of a sudden these men go overseas, and end up boo'd up with some cute Phillipina or some thick Colombian woman...it makes certain people question reality, because these men are supposed to be trash worldwide according to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:03 PM
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Sounds like The Boy Scouts just wanted to gain some relevancy and make some headlines. Nobody really gives a fuck about the change in semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:53 PM
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This post wreaks of "men who've never struggled with dating don't understand men who do struggle". I heard it on some podcast (i know, i know)a while ago. But it's true. This post sounds like "you're just doing it wrong" coming from a guy who's probably attractive and never struggled with dating. He had the privilege to be picky and he thinks he found "the secret". But really he has never seen the dating world through the eyes of average or below guys. Those guys don't have the luxury of excludi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:35 PM
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2nd photo uses flattering lighting (a little Rembrant lighting).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:15 PM
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what men mean is you shouldn't rely on makeup to make you a completely different person. A lot of women start believing they really look like the mask they put on everyday and it inflates their ego. Now combine that with one of the common sentiments you see on this sub-reddit where women claim they look better than their males counterparts or "i see these gorgeous queens out in public dating Shreks". It really does effect how SOME women rank themselves. Start believing you're better than the guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:12 PM
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the whole "envious of Chads" is clearly about average guys. read
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:53 PM
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this is what i said yesterday. Next time yall go to the zoo, ask the zookeepers to put all the men in the bear enclosures, and let all the bears roam freely around the zoo with the women. all i got back was a snarky response.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:27 PM
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I'd feel safer in the woods with a bear than a man. the random man is paralyzed from the neck down in a wheelchair, but i'd still choose the bear!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:26 PM
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this seems like somebody burner account trying to provide ammo for women. nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:22 PM
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it's called strawmanning. edit: but to add on...the word "entitlement" gets thrown around because some men start asking questions about inconsistencies. One guy puts in zero effort and gets laid, 2nd guy puts in max effort and doesn't get laid...2nd guy starts asking "why is zero effort guy getting laid, when you tell us that you want effort?"...people respond with "entitlement" babble. It's a real slick way to get out of explaining inconsistencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:56 PM
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This sounds like another attempt to villainize average guys so women don't feel like they're the actual a-holes for rejecting them. this whole passage here is ridiculous: The covert narcissist is someone who is jealous, passive aggressive, and withdrawn and anxious. It sounds oddly like the red pill man, who is envious of “Chad” and who feels like he deserves “raw animal attraction”. He’s highly self critical so he doesn’t believe he’s attractive enough for alpha treatment, so he becomes insecur…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:50 PM
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OP's logic is childish and has some gigantic flaws. -If women are allegedly choosing purely via love more women should be married now, because they have all the leverage and choosing power in dating. Why aren't they choosing to marry the guys they love? -Why have financial standards for men gone through the roof if you're claiming women today are choosing with their hearts? Women in western countries are also making more money than ever, if they really wanted to choose with their hearts, they'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:30 PM
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stuck as in no way off the island or stuck as in shipwrecked and we're going to have to build a raft? if we're stuck but it's possible to work to get off the island by building a boat or raft, i'd rather be stuck with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:59 PM
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The average guy for the most part accepts what he can get. This idea of majority of men having a large amount of choices is laughable. and that story in the OP is kind of silly. The guy showed that she wasn't being a weirdo and dating his celebrity crush's archetype. Sounds like she just didn't like the guy and needed an excuse to get rid of a good guy without making herself look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:55 PM
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People aren't telling women to date unattractive men. What people are saying is the stuff you claim you want needs to actually match up with your choices. Women will list off Mr. Rogers, then show up to Thanksgiving introducing everybody to Prison-bae. Then when people point out the inconsistency..."you keep telling me to go after unattractive men".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:07 PM
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"not obese" doesn't mean "supermodel"...and strawmanning "not obese" is how some women intentionally play stupid about that low ass standard. "not obese" covers a lot of different body types. But here yall come trying to make it seem like men want stick thin Cindy Crawfords.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:37 PM
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this is kind of how i feel. I think there is red pill information, then there are people on youtube that pretend to be "red pill" and say a bunch of shock extreme crap to go viral. in my opinion most redpill basic information is deadly accurate, but people usually debate against extreme people like Tate or FnF.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:30 PM
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The best thing about the "soft guy era" jokes is the men don't have to exaggerate what the women are saying. You literally just switch genders from the stuff that sprinkle sprinkle lady and others say and the ridiculousness is right there in plain site.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:19 PM
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it's one of those things where women literally state something and men repeated right back to them then they deny it when they hear how it finally sounds outside of an echo chamber. women on this subreddit routinely state how they don't find most men attractive/"never settle"...then when you repeat it back in the form of 80/20...."this doesn't exist!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:12 PM
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withholding sex is manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:52 PM
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She had checked out from sex with him for a long time spelled out in clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:25 PM
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He cheated. But she 100% used manipulation by withholding sex before that. And no, one is not worse or better than the other. Both are equally wrong. Let's not sit here and try auto-blame the man. Also, if this story is being told from a woman's perspective best believe she left out alot of stuff she did that was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:53 PM
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I was going to type up a whole post but i'll keep it short. The only benefit to having female friends in relation to dating is pre-selection. All that other stuff is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:26 PM
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It's just reciting certain talking points that women make and simply changing the gender. People then realize how stupid some of these statements are when the genders change.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:14 PM
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A lot of men already are MGTOW, they just don't call it that. And alot them just aren't perpetually online complaining. RPers that are online are actually a small minority of vocal men. Also, the OP post is missing a key element. The vast majority of RP content is for other men, it's not an "attack on women" or whatever. A lot of women are just so self-centered that you think guy making RP video is for you. It's not most of the time, its to inform other men. Just like most Passport Bro content i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:11 PM
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Exactly. The guy who's around women and they sort of validate him, will get more women. Some women will deny pre-selection exists, but they'll more or less say it in other words. "He needs to have a better social circle"..."a guy who's been single for a long time is a huge red flag...what's wrong with him".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:06 PM
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I'm not one of those red-pill guys that speaks on "high value". I hate that the phrase was ever created. I know my "flair" say red pill but i think i'm within reason. So i'm not going to speak on the goofy "high value" nonsense. But it sounds like you're trying to equate women and men as the same in dating. We are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:01 PM
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pre-selection is a real thing. You say "experience doesn't make him more attractive"...this is where you're wrong. Pre-selection makes a man more visible to women, not more attractive. Alot of guys' major issue with dating is literally just being seen as a dating option, pre-selection makes guys visible all of a sudden, especially average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:57 PM
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that's just one scenario. the pre-selected guy doesn't have to meet strangers, the women who are lined up in waiting will make themselves known. even average looking guys will tell you that when they are single, they are invisible. when they are out with a woman and if it appears they're together, all of a sudden other women "see" him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:44 PM
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Not really the actual "body count" but being pre-selected by women basically gets them more women. Some people try to deny pre-selection, but it's a real thing. Guy who's always got women will have more women line-up, guy with no women will be seen as a red flag. "Something must be wrong with him". LOL, i already know somebody will respond with some lie or anecdote about marrying the most extreme quietest male introvert ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:25 PM
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Claiming that men and women have the same sex drive is tied to this idea that women have more self control sexually. Accepting the reality, that men have way higher sex drives, would change that argument. And there's a deeper argument to be made about the contradiction to how SOME women blame some of their behavior on "that time of the month", but men can't blame behavior sometimes on "well, you see the way my sex drive works..."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:50 PM
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LMAO...nice try. When people like you pander to women it shows that you argue on behalf the IDEA of a perfect woman. You don't know any real women. If you did you'd know how much they pattern themselves after female celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:25 PM
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if you consider pro athletes celebs, then i guarantee you know men that follow the lives of celebs. Let's not give men too much credit there. LOL But what i think you mean, is you don't know any men that pattern themselves after the lives of celebs. I do think a huge portion of women believe they celebrities in waiting or they pattern their whole life around a Kardashian or Beyonce as examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:27 PM
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if you consider pro athletes celebs, then i guarantee you know men that follow the lives of celebs. Let's not give men too much credit there. LOL But what i think you mean, is you don't know any men that pattern themselves after the lives of celebs. I do think a huge portion of women believe they celebrities in waiting or they pattern their whole life around a Kardashian or Beyonce as examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:27 PM
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The issue for a lot of women is women throw around words that imply criminal things when they try to paint their exes in a certain light. Biggest example is the word "abuse". "Abuse" has legal definitions behind it, and it's used to often imply the guy was physically abusive. Hell even a word like "harassed" or "harassment" have legal definitions and can be used to imply things. They casually throw these words around about their exes and people just take it as some kind of "believe all women" ty…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:32 PM
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as a redpill leaning guy the virgin thing is extreme and mainly used as a topic for youtube/social media content. No normal man expects a normal american woman to abstain from sex until marriage. this is one of those topics where i feel like normal guys who might lean redpill need to pushback on the youtube idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:43 PM
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this is one of the worst posts i've ever seen on the sub. none of it makes sense. why do people keep over-analyzing men. Men literally just want sex from one woman that is easy to deal with. All this other goofy stuff about power dynamics and violence comes off like projection. The vast majority of men, i'm excluding clear mental cases, aren't sitting around thinking about "sex-violence" or manipulating a woman or "power".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:37 PM
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I disagree. I think a small portion of men have already "gone their own way" or "got their passports". And a lot on top of that might still date but stopped cold approaching and women are already feeling the impact of it. They aren't just quietly watching men walk away. They are making those "why won't men approach anymore?" videos regularly. Women may not want to have sex with, date, or be in relationships with those men, but that decrease in attention does raise their antenna.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:27 PM
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this stuff is not hugely popular. reset your algorithms.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:33 PM
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More "just be confident" babble.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:35 PM
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women still get non-sexual/non-romantic boyfriend stuff from their male friends. Women can cobble together a lot the things they want from "A" man from their friendzones. This is why i think men need to get out of these friendzones, aside from the men developing anger towards her, the men are also helping to keep her single. It's enabling to the situationship culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 03:35 PM
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People can't fucking tell, if they did there wouldn't be so many women abused by their toxic ex, so spare me the bs. Funny how women's personality detector suddenly goes off if the guy is hot. this has always been the big joke to me. Women can tell when an "ugly" guy has personality flaws immediately, but somehow the attractive guy manipulated them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:47 PM
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men typically end up in the friendzone. Women end up in the situationship zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:36 PM
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overlapping.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:34 PM
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whole comment section went full "red pill". Everybody sees the clear flaw in the bluepill "just treat her like a human and be yourself" type of crap. Well played OP. People didn't even pretend to defend it. LMAOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:29 PM
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I've always found it weird that people will tell men that sex isn't everything or that sex shouldn't be the first thing you seek, but lack of sex will often times be the first thing people attack a man with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 07:49 PM
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Everybody that's not an average* man in the western world can't identify with how bad average men get treated in western countries. All these, "you're just doing it wrong...you just need to talk to more women...you just need to blah blah blah"...if it were that easy there would be no "red pill" or "manosphere". ​ People have cognitive dissonance or something. They will listen to woman after woman say that they don't want average, don't want to settle, etc...but then turn to the average men and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 07:44 PM
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secret account is worse. a pre-nup is up front and honest. a secret account is stealing money in my eyes. Also, having a secret account basically gives that person a nudge to leave a relationship over any small thing. Also, that person is operating with nefarious purposes the whole time. That person is operating in bad-faith under the fake excuse of "just in case". Also, most women don't get screwed in divorce court. Why would you need a back up with courts usually give you more than enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:27 PM
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"situationships"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 09:38 PM
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many of you cling to the extreme goofy stuff youtubers say as you claim that the whole premise of RP. It's not. Many of you strawman stuff that nobody ever says. Most of the stuff you describe is literally goofy ass PUA stuff, but people like to put all this stuff under 1 umbrella. And like i said, the irony, is the stuff you listed is exactly what a lot of women like. All those games and manipulation is the toxic stuff women like. i see what you did all the time on here, people strawmanning the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:30 PM
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LOL...sorry, i'm just an older guy yelling at a cloud.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:07 PM
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my god "Don't save her she don't wanna be saved" is from Project Pat not J. Cole.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:59 PM
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none of this is "redpill". To be honest, this sounds like the type of toxic behavior SOME women are deeply attracted to. Redpill is merely telling men the truth about attraction/dating/relationships/etc... Once you give men the truth they should act accordingly. One example is telling an average guy the truth that the women he's chasing have him in a friendzone or that he never had a shot at that girl he likes because she like the "Chads." It's telling that guy that women simply like what they l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:52 PM
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this is not about shaming women. men can do that for free. it's about the fact that actual money starts coming out of men's bank accounts. Actual things happen to the men, this isn't some issue where men want to "stick it to women"...lmao. ​ I can't believe has to be explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:42 PM
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Safety matters to men too. Men get set up all the time via dating apps or whatever. The fact that women think safety in dating is a completely one-way lopsided issue is exactly the point. If the question is "who faces more danger in dating", you might have a slight edge of an argument. But, 99% of the time the question is about who has is it easier or harder and the context is always about the normal stuff like options and treatment, not danger. And we all know men, average men, have it the wors…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:17 PM
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using "danger" is just one of those things women use to win dating debates. It's like launching nukes during an argument over a parking spot. People starting talking about "who has it worse in dating?"...clearly it's men because of lack of options, so they hit the nuke and bring up "danger" when that was clearly out of the context of that debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:36 PM
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Men are looking at it from a perspective of "if i had that many choices, i would easily find a wife". It's men viewing it from the perspective of literally living with limited/zero choices. We see it as women wasting their "good years" not being serious about dating/marriage. I'd say a huge portion of women have never not had choices in dating, but they go around acting like they have it just as hard as an average guy with zero choices. It's like watching a rich person complain about money probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:57 PM
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the complaint is that women's standards only apply to men they don't find naturally attractive. The naturally attractive guy doesn't have to meet her "standards" while average and below guys have to "bring more to the table".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:53 PM
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on #1...the sleeping with you instantly thing is more of an extreme talking point for the social media guys. but there is truth "the sooner the better". As a man, you need to make clear up front you're trying to fuck, (not in those exact words) but trying to semi-friendship date a girl will just make you snap as a man. There does need to be some clear intention shown from a woman extremely early on that it's going to happen. You shouldn't be 6 months in still wondering if it'll happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:04 PM
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It's amazing how much people flipflop and pick-&-choose when physical attraction matters. If men talk about physical attraction it's shallow and/or misogynistic, when women talk about physical attraction it's "we shouldn't be forced to settle". Life isn't fair, you don't just get everything you want. You are going have to settle compromise. Marriage and kids are supposed to be about picking the partner that matches up with your values and will be a good person to co-parent with. Not this selfish…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:53 PM
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the vast majority of yall aren't settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:16 PM
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Sorry but, most assholes i've seen (edit: this came out weird) almost always have girlfriends and wives. It's actually kind of a mindfuck if you're like bluepilled and unaware of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:12 PM
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80/20
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:57 PM
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getting sex from a woman is an extremely explicit guaranteed expectation that men have in relationships. I can't believe this is actually like a argument being used here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:20 PM
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but they're also more open to connecting with these "below average" guys. this is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:32 PM
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leverage. in the US, women have ridiculous amounts of dating leverage. there's always a guy a DM away. of course, they can have you over the barrel of a gun (metaphorically) the whole time you're in a relationship and the constant threat of leaving is always on the table. because what are you gonna do a man...leave? They know the vast majority of men don't have options waiting the batter's box.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:17 PM
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The way women approach is to give signals of interest. So they don't approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:08 PM
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it's a generalization. you're situation is just the exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:11 PM
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you're overthinking it. Most women want an attractive guy. they'll make themselves believe he's whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:43 PM
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I think this comment section proved that outside of "RP" advice, dating advice for men is complete trash. it all keeps coming back to stupid shit like "just be yourself" or "get abs". LMAO I've asked the exact same question from the OP and people get really weird and quiet. Or you get the snarky "if you're a grown man and don't know how to talk to women" stuff. Basically, a lot of people would rather (average or below) men be kept "dumb" when it comes to dating. They'd prefer men be stupid littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:34 PM
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"single women keep other women single" ​ also, men do other men the courtesy of NOT dumping our problems on our friends. Aint nobody tryna hear my problems everytime we hang out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:26 PM
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Locker room talk is largely sports, cars, cool gadgets etc...it's huge myth that men sit around discussing who we had sex with or what GF/Wives do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:23 PM
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exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:55 PM
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Having "good social skills" and not being physically attractive makes you a top friendzone candidate. Attractive men appear to have better "social skills" because the women treat them better and actually participate in the conversation. I forgot what the name of this effect was, but somebody once broke it down to me on here about how attractive men were always described as being more confident or having better "social skills" than average or ugly guys. People would lie and try to attribute the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:53 PM
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Opening up to a woman is just giving them ammo for the next argument yall have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:32 PM
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I've used this analogy before: Men complain about not having water in the desert Women have a stock pile of water in the desert, but they complain because the water isn't flavored. Therefore the water is "undrinkable" to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:24 PM
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I admit there’s some weird thing regarding this case, it's weird because painting him as the aggressor has left a million holes in the case. The moment you see her as the aggressor ,like she really was, all the holes are filled and everything makes sense.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 08:06 PM
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didn't slap her. didn't break her finger. driver even said "the girl was doing everything" don't just spread false info.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 08:03 PM
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the law basically just told men, that if a woman is violently attacking you, then you have to just take it. If you push that woman away, it's assault. If she steals your property and you retrieve your own property, it's harassment. if you run...."guilty".
/r/MensRights19/12/23 08:01 PM
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if you're attractive just walk into the room. you don't have to act a certain way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:35 PM
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"treat women as human beings" is code for "worship women". it's supposed to be vague for plausible deniability, but it is not literal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:58 PM
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-men live in the desert. there is one spring that only a few men get to drink from at a time. -women also in the same desert, but sitting on a stock pile of regular bottle water, but they also have flavored water. the women won't settle for the regular water. so they complain just like the men about how "we don't have anything to drink either....yeah...but it's regular 'undrinkable' water".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:41 PM
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I'd say about 80% of "redpill" content is deadly accurate. The other 20% is what each individual "influencer" adds which usually silly or extreme. That 20% is usually what people argue and they pretend that silly or extreme stuff is the whole of "redpill". As a man, once you can decipher the extreme stuff from what actually makes sense then you should be in a better spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:58 PM
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they don't think good guys are gonna play them. ​ they think good guys are too structured and boring. what they really want is for that toxic exciting guy to also be loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:51 PM
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​ women: "i make my own money!...i need a man to match my level!" also women: "why am i expected to pay for dates...what gave men the idea that i'd be down for 50/50?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:37 PM
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Change the thread title to "TOXIC Men don't actually like good women" and the thread makes more sense. The OP and most of the comments are leaving out the context of women wanting the exciting/toxic/bad boy types to like good women and "change" for her. The men who like and value good women are seen as boring or unattractive to yall, until you get older and "now, i have standards" kicks in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:29 PM
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these "rules" are strictly for the undesirable guys. take them with a grain of salt. if the dude is attractive enough she'll be flirting with him at a funeral.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:17 PM
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Monday morning: "Women are not a monolith, we are all different" Monday afternoon: "Here is the one way to approach all women" ​ this is the type of babble men get and are supposed to take into serious consideration. On an extremely basic level it's contradictory goofy nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:02 PM
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A lot of women would straight up never get a date if they were men with the same personalities. most women would never date their male-selves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 08:05 PM
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right thread title, horrible examples. an easy basic example: Woman openly flirts with another man in front of her boyfriend or husband. The boyfriend or husband is supposed to "not be insecure". Man openly flirts with another woman in front of his girlfriend...world war 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:26 PM
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If a dude is attractive the women will make it easy for him. The women will laugh or fake laugh and actually participate in dialogue. If a dude is average the women will act completely different, you might as well be talking to a brick wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:19 PM
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One of the biggest issues with the premise of this thread is women like to view themselves as individual unique snowflakes and they all think they are the only one with this special set of standards. While on the outside looking in, men see all the same standards listed on the vast majority of the lists from women. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:51 PM
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I've had friendships with women over my lifetime and when you befriend a woman she is going to want boyfriend benefits from you, even things like cuddling. I was going to type up this exact sentiment. Women get alot of non-sexual boyfriend-duty stuff fulfilled from their male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:36 PM
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I've always thought it would be a funny idea for somebody to read a woman's profile back to her but in a male version just to see if they would date themselves. Like if somebody did it as a youtube dating experiment or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:08 PM
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I didn't get it at first, but the text explains it well. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:06 PM
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No offense but "raising standards" is delusional women-logic. LMAO This is like asking someone who doesn't have a doctorate to "increase their standards" and apply for doctor level jobs. It's delusional. You tell them..."hey, you'll find more offers and better results if you aim at what you're qualified for".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:13 PM
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the term is "fiction". Men aren't built like women. Men don't hold out for the best possible woman on earth. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:07 PM
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it's a spin-off question from another thread. It's a related but different issue than that thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:33 PM
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i've never seen single men try to convince their happily married male friends to get a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:06 PM
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"Single women keep other women single" -the book of Samuels. people hated this man but it's amazing how the stuff he said plays out daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:03 PM
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woman: "I need you to take an STD test before we have sex" man: "are you accusing me of having STDs?" woman: "no, but i can't just take your word for it" man: "but i thought we were using that 'trust' thing?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:55 PM
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If you apply for a job and they require a drug test before hand, are they "accusing" you of being a junkie? Or are they just doing their due diligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:43 PM
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10% at best edit: in America
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:33 PM
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Post like this just remind me of some random dating panel youtube thing i saw once and the guy was talking about how people who basically are NOT average men (women, and men in the top 20%) can't identify with average men. Like they have no idea how it is. They have no idea that average men get treated differently than the other groups. They have no idea what is like to be "invisible". They have no idea what it's like to truly struggle with dating. And struggle meaning you don't get anything out…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:50 PM
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threads like this just prove that alot of people flip these issue around the wrong way to always make it seem like men are doing something wrong instead of just speaking on reality. Men who are attractive have great social lives because people want to be around attractive people. Men that are average at best in looks stop going out because it becomes a gigantic waste of time going out and being an "extra" in the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:33 PM
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truth. these posts where people say "if you just check off these boxes you'll be guaranteed to get some" are horrible. It creates men that believe they are entitled to sex, then when that sex isn't there they violently snap.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:21 PM
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Why can’t women be more honest about the fact that their standards for physical attraction are very high and very few men are able to meet them? this is really what the issue is. Women are not willing to admit how shallow they are about looks. They say all this stuff that makes them sound like hallmark cards, then in reality they will be willing to share an over the top attractive guy before just settling with a decent looking average guy. Its funny at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:16 PM
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People (mostly women) spend billions on looks yearly. We don't even have to get into opinions to debunk this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:10 PM
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we're supposed to accept women as they are, but as men we are supposed to be perfect in every possible way. equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:08 PM
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My man, when you are having casual sex, as long as you are charismatic and funny what your face looks like is extremely irrelevant as long as you look remotely passable. false. LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:18 PM
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looks get you the job interview. personality gets you the job. ​ the problem when discussing this is attractive people believe they've exercised some kind of high level social skill when really they just look good enough to get the "job interview" every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:14 PM
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80/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:09 PM
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its not "men would fuck anything". Men are just more realistic. Men don't get to live in that delusional realm women get to live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:09 PM
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what you missed is that after the women come back down to earth and date guys in their range THEY RAISE THEIR STANDARDS. now the average guys are still stuck behind the 8 ball.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:04 PM
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the vast majority of anti-RP responses are some insult. Usually based around the word "incel" or they'll just say that person is some form of a follower of some infamous redpill youtuber. ​ I've hardly ever seen actual geniune attempts to debunk or disprove redpill talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:32 PM
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I can't believe this has to be explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:25 PM
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so many?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:33 PM
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So it's okay for men to also judge all women by one incident. gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:58 PM
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this has never been what that meant. It was always said in the context of women being "mature" in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:02 PM
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"women mature faster than men" "men dating younger women is weird"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:40 PM
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it's fictional. Like all those Judd Apatow movies where these sloppy looking dudes have model wives. It's fiction. And as another just pointed out it's actually a "blue pill" delusional thing. The idea that simply being the nice guy will eventually land you a model is not something "red pill" talks about. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:36 PM
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What's even worse is a lot of women know the guy already has multiple children by multiple women and they line up to be the next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 08:32 PM
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Initiating "moves" would mean women would have to be held accountable to whatever goes on romantically/sexually after that. Women like being in the position to say "he did this to me" or "this happened to me" rather than "I kissed him" or "I made the choice to do that". ​ But i get where you're coming from because men are told to risk it all and make a move while also trying to avoid assault charges.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 08:10 PM
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Their standards differ from man to man. Which means there is no standard. If a dude is attractive enough, he doesn't have to do all the stuff their have on their lists. The list is just for average or ugly guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:53 PM
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even on anonymous surveys women will lie to protect "womanhood". It's THAT strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:04 PM
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This giant post is posited on the fact that women are not lying when they tell researchers how many men they sleep with. this. women will always say stuff to make themselves look good, but their actions may not line up with the words.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:02 PM
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Another way to look at it is MANY women get into relationships for their own selfish gain, they consciously or subconsciously see relationships as something FOR women. But if the relationship ends and it seems like the man got more out of it, then women will say he was a predator. Even if he didn't necessarily screw the women over in any way. American society has taught people that men are supposed to sort of leave relationships worse than how they started and women are supposed to take a little…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:53 PM
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i'll just say this, if you were apart of that group of men that struggle in dating, you would get analytical too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 08:35 PM
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the "men have high expectations and picky" lie should be called out every time. It's a projection and it shows that modern women literally have no idea what an average man goes through in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:53 PM
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It's only "controlling" when the man is 100% right and there's no other way to flip it into him being wrong. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:30 PM
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they do...they just overlap date and find ways to blame the broker and/or uglier previous guy on the break-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:05 PM
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All its going to take is for that first company to come along and combine all the different things into one. -porn -VR -AI -modern sex toys controlled by apps -those new sex dolls that went viral a few years ago -etc... as soon as somebody starts combining these things, s*it is really going to hit the fan. It's going to be weird. I'm kind of trying to be funny, but people are seeing all these things independent from each other so people are downplaying VR by itself. But the combination of all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:52 PM
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all facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:41 PM
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a lot of women simply don't have hobbies. And i don't count "going out" as a hobby. The best they can do is "work out" or "go on hikes". and i'll just say it...this is part of the reason men have trouble having decent conversations with women on dates...many women have nothing going on in their lives outside of nightlife/dating. Then men are told we don't know how to talk or communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:39 PM
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I am a man btw, but I dont know anything about dating or how the S word works. But, the red pill, for any man who has any sense, would drive him into wanting to be sexless, because it reduces sex down to a thing you scheme, and trick, out of women. ​ This part sounds like you're confusing "redpill" with like pick-up artist stuff. Redpill mostly is just telling men the truth. If anything "redpill" teaches men that there are no gimmicks or tricks to getting women. That women simply like what the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:08 PM
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I don't fully agree that it's about "desired by other women". Part of it is "do other women approve of our union?" with women. I think women place an extreme amount of weight on whether of not other women approve of who they're dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:01 PM
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yes they are. what you're missing is women that are 5's don't call themselves 5s. LOL Most women's self-ranking is highly inflated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:33 PM
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it's easier for "mid-women" because you can still get something regularly out of dating and you still have huge amount of options. And you can always have the sexual need taken care of. ​ a mid-guy might as well be ugly. average can have years of their lives where they get NOTHING out of dating, and nothing includes sex. like nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:27 PM
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"are we dating the same guy" is just the 80/20 concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:17 PM
1

In my opinion, this obession over purity, virginity and bodycount is some that has been perverted and exaggerated by TRP. I agree. I think bodycount matters within reason. It's reasonable to expect that a woman has had multiple sex partners. I think virginity and purity is extreme and mainly just used on places like youtube as like a shock-jock type of take for conversation purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:15 PM
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-he already has kids so the whole "looking for youth and fertility" is off the table -she most likely has other qualities beyond sex that he values -she also already has kids so they probably connect on that level -she also has already dealt with another high-status man, Tony Gonzalez, before Bezos so she probably doesn't come off thirsty like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:16 PM
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for 18-25 men...stop wasting time chasing women. either focus on your future career or focus on your hobbies that make you happy. women will come and go. ​ also, women will make things extremely easy if they like you for real, if they are making you "work" for "it"...you're just like a placeholder then and you should walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:05 PM
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Men show love via providing whatever resources we have, not through sex. put it like this, even if a man wasn't having sex with another woman, it would still be viewed as cheating if he was paying her rent and bought her a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:09 PM
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If you wanna open up as a man, go to your male friends or father/brothers facts. first of all a woman is usually not even built to handle the type of problems a man has. 2nd of all if you open up to a woman expect that stuff to be used against you later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:01 PM
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what they mean is men should open up in women approved ways, I disagree. When women say they want men to open up they just want men to provide them with "ammo" for future arguments or for manipulation. Most men will tell you they get into an argument with their lady about one thing and she brings up something he was crying about that's completely unrelated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:59 PM
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Why would they call it a relationship then? coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:55 PM
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this sounds like Pick-Up Artist babble. Relying on "tricks" to catch her slipping. Doing too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:49 PM
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this man doesn't like "bitches" he's just chasing the one woman that gave him attention back. It's amazing how yall completely misreads things about men. Like basic things are completely misread.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 08:56 PM
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this. people try to downplay it but yeah. as soon as you out with a woman on a date or if you and her even remotely look like couple, women start falling out the sky to talk to you and flirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:22 PM
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i suspect alot of gaslighting about preselection will go on in here, but most men will tell you when you have a woman on your arm all of a sudden other women "see" you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 09:03 PM
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"if you're an older man, and you don't date older divorced bitter single mothers...you're a predator for preferring younger women...or you're an i_cel"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:01 PM
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Almost all of the well know high value men are either dating or are even married total sloots though. this is false. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:02 PM
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the incentive is that the men that most women want desire a woman with a low body count. the incentive is that having a high body count doesn't yield the results these women say they themselves want long term. ​ also, what tends to happen here is this is when the conversations become "well you're not the man i want, you're average". And this is where i say, most average guys are NOT as strict on the body count thing as guys higher up the totem pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:56 PM
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oh i thought you were disagreeing with me. we agree somewhat, then. I misread the tone of your post. my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:42 PM
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what do you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:31 PM
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Simping isn't really about one man loving one woman. Simping is more about that man pandering to women. Simping is about that man being the male-attack dog "on behalf" of what he thinks will get him points with women. Simping is about being "yesss queen" type of man. Simping is the guy that gets on message boards and social media trashing other men all day for the sake of appearing like a male-feminist. It isn't about a man loving his gf or wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:10 PM
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please stop with the "it's just confidence" stuff. Its looks. It'll always be looks. Guys that naturally look better will appear to have better confidence because they get treated better and always have better outcomes than average or ugly guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:05 PM
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leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:37 PM
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"how come RP content for men isn't catering to women's ego?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:36 PM
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from a male perspective, you are not competing with men in your area, you are competing with every man on earth because of the internet. it's like how people talk about a "global economy"...it's now a global dating market. You have to compete with some guy with a blue check mark in her DMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:55 PM
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The average women don't know they're average. They believe they are 10's mainly because they get sexual access to male-8's, 9's, and 10's and because there is a whole cosmetic industry built around selling them products to make them "10's". ​ Then they project this delusion on to men with the "you all want super-models" stuff. No, the vast majority of men want a woman that's reasonably within their range.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:40 PM
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they don't want to look shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:11 PM
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wish this were only about "asshole women" but it's not. Asshole women are just the few that say it out loud. Most women like the OP said, basically say one list but then show up to Thanksgiving with a completely different guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:06 PM
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this works in a major city like New york. But in a B-Tier city or a C-Tier city you can be "that" guy by the whole community real fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:10 PM
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men that are attractive are perceived to have better "social" skills because they look better. It's that simple. An attractive guy and an average or ugly guy saying the exact same things come off completely different. And also, most "chads" don't even have game like that. They aren't saying anything spectacular to pull women. It's one of the reasons average guys get confused...average guys get told to "just talk to women"...we get told this advice by Chads. It leaves out the "and be attractive" …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:01 PM
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this sounds like what a woman wants a man to think. LOL. A woman who feels she doesn't need men will have never truly commit because the moment anything goes wrong she'll exercise her "independence" and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:00 PM
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The issues have always been there, men are just now saying it outloud.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:57 PM
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being aware of things is 100% a benefit. A man will believe he's crazy if he's average or unattractive and isn't aware of how women really feel about those types of guys. He will eventually snap or go through life confused the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:56 PM
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Men are the same as we've always been. What changed over the last few decades is the internet/social media/dating apps have given average women sexual access to men at the top, and women end up believing their "level" is the top. Those guys at the top never consider these average women to be wives, but in this "manifest it girrrl" society women believe they can just wish for a top guy real hard and make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:28 PM
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"being a good little simp helper" means a guy will be a friendzone guy who is expected to never ask for sex and be some woman's assistant. This is the advice women give out. "just be a good guy with a kind heart blah blah blah..." meanwhile the a-holes and toxic men are never single.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:21 PM
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guys are trying to find a wife and mad that women are giving misleading advice. Women say one thing, then date another. It's pretty simple. It's the reason so many men get confused, we actually listen to the words that women say, then their actions don't like up with the words.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:18 PM
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lol...the biggest issue is women say they want a guy whose morally and ethically on Jesus level, then the same woman is getting her back blown out by a tatted-up muscle-head ex felon. women's dating advice leads to more confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:16 PM
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No women lie as to what they want in a guy so they don't seem shallow. THIS!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:12 PM
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Asking women for dating advice is futile because women will just instruct a man to being a good little simp-helper for women in general. Women just say a bunch of stuff that makes women sound like they care about morals and values, meanwhile women will show up to thanksgiving with a toxic "attractive" guy. Also, following women's dating advice is partly why so many men eventually turn red-pill. The men follow women's advice and don't get results, and the men end up making that "why do women like…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:11 PM
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Men's standard are already scrapping the underside of a dumpster.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:02 PM
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men don't seek out "women who have no jobs"...men seek out women who are attractive, that typically ends up being women who are younger and younger women tend to not be deep into a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:00 PM
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you're assuming men want to basically date woman who has the traits of a man. ​ also, women are not built to take care of a male spouse long term. Unless it's some rare situation where the man had some kind of gruesome accident or a illness or something. But women in general are not going to be providers for a man for long term. THAT debate will come up. Men are expected to provide for the WHOLE family including the woman. It's built into us. So asking why men aren't seeking female-providers is …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:53 PM
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keeping people single easily be explained by one example. ​ Family=1 house bought and everything purchased inside of it. Broken "Family"=2 houses bought and everything purchased inside of 2 houses.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:04 PM
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Dating on apps for men is hard because average guys are in direct competition with tippy top guys. All the internet did was bridge the gap between average women and the guys at the top. People thought it would create more option for average people of both genders but it just created a pipeline for the guys at the top fill in their slumps with average women. Imagine if average women had to compete with true 8's, 9's, and 10's on dating apps...and those 8s, 9s, and 10s were dipping down into the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:16 PM
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Ugly guys pump and dump too. no they don't. I hate when yall just say stuff just to go against something that makes women look bad but it'll be true. So now we're supposed to believe ugly guys are running through women sexually. LOL STOP
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:10 PM
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many will claim they do, but in reality they just go stand near him. then they get online saying "i approached a guy today and nothing happened" then blame him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:30 PM
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perhaps if you're having trouble on both ends, it's you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:18 PM
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thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:17 PM
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No. Women are not built to use said money said career to provide long term resources to a man. Women will provide for their kids, but not a male spouse. Many will claim they do just for the sake of argument but those relationships never last. Men know this and we know that a woman talking abut her career doesn't mean jack-sh*t. ​ If anything a woman having a strong career just means one-day she'll get promoted at work and believe she's "leveled up" on her man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:09 PM
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most mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:04 PM
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NO....lmao....no. you guys want men to have blue hair and be out of shape?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:41 PM
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why don't women accept men as they are like men have to accept "body positivity"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:37 PM
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The manosphere is largely birthed from the fact that "betas" were gaslighted into believing women like "what's on the inside" when it reality women, for the most part, still just want hyper masculine toxic good looking alpha males types. ​ The manosphere hates they were lied to. "if you just be yourself and be a good guy you'll find love someday and all that matters is being a good person blah blah blah". All these men go on THAT internet search one day because they aren't getting results they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:44 PM
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The fact that those groups are even a thing should be an alarming issue. Its wild that women don't see the issue with them ending up with the same small pool of men in a metropolitan area.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:34 PM
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Men have tried everything. At some point, people need to acknowledge that there might be something wrong with modern women. ​ "just be around more women" is not a viable solution. LOL. Women are around men everyday all day and average/unattractive men are damn near invisible to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:47 PM
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I believe women are seeing declines in the amount of attention they get. And the women are actually looking for answers. You can hear the "how come men don't approach anymore?" comments start to become more frequent. Women lurk around redpill content all the time. Women stay commenting on things like "Passport Bros". They are seeing declines in men in their DMs. LOL ​ So to answer the question, women are seeing a change so now people are snooping around men's content.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:45 PM
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you mean a friendzone?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:50 PM
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this. people keep saying "they bring on certain types" but it doesn't matter. the OF girls and the degree'd girls typically have the same views on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:48 PM
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i dont even like Fresh and Fit but the women embarrass themselves. a lot of women have never had their dating-beliefs questioned before. People are use to seeing men cave-in when talking to women about dating and relationships, so anything outside of that is "picking on them".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:38 PM
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Most chads don't dress well or have game. They are usually just maxed out on natural looks. Most "chads" i've known didn't say anything special or have special pickup lines or special clothes. The just showed up and the women did all the work. And it was completely baffling to me as younger adult because they didn't do anything different than the average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:09 PM
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We'll believe you care about "improvements" when you all stop giving "Chads" unlimited sexual access and you force "Chads" to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:03 PM
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the point being, putting yourself out there for a man can go far beyond one face-to-face rejection. And a nice guy that ONE woman finds unattractive can be labeled a creep by her and in turn he will be a "creep" to all. It's not worth the risk anymore for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 09:56 PM
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it's funny, most of the comments are just "men gain weight too". ​ The equivalent from the male side would be Jake spending lavishly on his previous non-relationship sexual partners and treating them like queens, then when he gets to Sarah he says "i don't want to give you all that stuff i did when i just wanted to hook-up...i'm going to slow down and not lead with my wallet with you...you just get 'me' and not my money and lifestyle". ​ Sarah would ask "why am I getting less?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 09:40 PM
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people will be obtuse about it, but there all kinds of private women's facebook groups where they share information about specific men. just one example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 09:29 PM
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They say they do, but really they don't. And if you're a man opening up about your feelings to a woman expect that information to be used against you in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:30 PM
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women are saying "accept me as i am" while telling the men they aren't acceptable as they are and that the men have to show, prove, and do stuff stuff. Of course there is resentment from the side that actually has to put in work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:27 PM
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alot of women share men. it's the reason they think "all men cheat". They share the attractive guys with all the options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:25 PM
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one thing that is rarely talked about is that a lot of women have no idea whether or not man is a good catch outside of looks. for example, the "less attractive" man might own his own plumbing company and makes 200k a year and has a great personality. A lot of women are extremely short sighted and shallow when it comes to men, so he might be bald and 5'9 so they don't see "it". Meanwhile the "attractive" woman in reality might be the one dating "up".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:03 PM
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They see those men as backup plans that should be waiting there for them after multiple "hot-girl summers". When the back-up plans are leaving all of a sudden they lose that leverage they had over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:39 PM
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wanting equality in society but also wanting the men they date to be better than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:24 PM
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A better way to look at it is if you're unattractive, everything you do can be deemed unattractive. Attractive guys get away with ALL the bad stuff. All the stuff listed in the OP will be turned into a positive for an attractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:21 PM
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MOST of the college seats are not reserved for non-white males. please stop. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:16 PM
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"step up and be better" is intentionally vague and meant to just be almost like a slogan used for debates. Even in your definition, other vague verbiage like "grow up, develop some emotional intelligence" is used. None of this stuff has any concrete meaning or definition behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:14 PM
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Women demanding equality while also wanting the men they date to be better than them will always be funny to me. They don't see how the two are connected and contradictory. ​ "i want to make just as much as a man, but i also want MY man to make more than me and pay for everything". ​ It's like they haven't realized that equality also comes with equal responsibilities, including financial responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:09 PM
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we want you when you are in your physical prime, not after things start to physically decline. For what the average man desires those are your best years, not when 30+ or 40+. ​ Why is this a hard concept for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:23 PM
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