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Equal application of the law?? You mean that a man removing his condom without the woman's knowledge would just get a suspended sentence (no prison time at all)? Yeah, you can dream... There is nothing 'equal' or 'historic' in this judgment that denied any justice to this man and made that woman pay no price at all. Either I'm missing something here, or else this is a totally unequal and disgusting judgment. This should be in "r/pussypass" not a "r/pussypassdenied".
/r/PussyPassDenied05/05/22 11:15 PM
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I agree with that statement too, lol. I get it. But that doesn't make it right. That's exactly what feminists use to perpetuate the idea that men and boys cannot be r*ped because "they all want it anyway". That's why men teachers lose their jobs while women teachers are presented as quasi-victims for the same act. Even that boy here who says "it would be cool" is just "a regular horny 14yo" as you say, but as often happen, he (or many other boys to whom it happens) might have serious repercussio…
/r/PussyPassDenied15/08/21 12:14 AM
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Good that you bring it up. But I hope you're not ignorant enough that you don't know how it usually plays out. I can't count the number of times stuff that is 100% called r_pe when a man does it is absolutely NOT called like that when a woman does the same. So really, you've made your point but it's somewhat of a disgusting point to make considering the reality of how the media treats these things 99.9% of the time.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/08/21 07:29 PM
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It tells a lot about you. Minors are called minors for a reason. Thanks for encouraging the r#pe of boys because YOU think it sounds cool.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/08/21 07:25 PM
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She should want to meet as much as me, else we don't need to meet at all. Only the man paying makes no sense initially when nobody knows if this has any chance of going forward. If she can't spare some money to meet me, she's obviously not really interested. It's a great filter. Always worked for me.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/08/21 05:36 AM
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I agree. But still... Something is VERY WRONG with hearing your wife/girlfriend saying mostly that, well... —"your dick is 'okay', nothing to call home about of course, a bit normal and boring, nothing like a real big dick like I've experienced and will forever remember, but fear not honey, your dick is still nice to have..." I really can't see any positive in that message. It's awful.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/21 10:43 PM
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Not sure about your cancer and pituary gland. I think you describe a normal man's needs, really.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/21 10:13 AM
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—I'm not trying to date someone who makes less money than me Indeed. That's something so many men still have to learn! The laws make it dangerous to date down financially. Then again, having a partner that makes a lot more than me would pretty much guarantee failure of the relationship, so it all becomes a catch-22. Oops.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/21 10:10 AM
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—So as a woman, boyfriend dick is preferred. I certainly think this is true, as everything you wrote here, but gosh, how profoundly damaging to say what she said out loud. These are the kind of "truths" that once said can never be taken back, and no amounts of 'explaining' will fix the damage. The funny part: Even being convinced myself that this statement is entirely true and logical, and even with a very healthy and strong "sexual ego", I'm pretty sure my relationship would end soon after hear…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/21 09:54 AM
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For sure. Help your abusers. Good strategy. Looking at the last 50 years shows pretty clearly what people like you have accomplished. /s Of course there is some truth to what you say, being a good person sounds great, but then thinking a bit further at the facts and the trends, you can possibly start wondering if some different action might be needed at some point, taking into account that one gender only is being thoughtfully decimated after 50 years of one-side-takes-all and all-around double …
/r/PussyPassDenied06/08/21 06:55 PM
4

They can usually revert the vasectomy, but that's a good idea also.
/r/MGTOW201/08/21 10:44 PM
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I didn't "hear". It's a fact, in Canada at least, that doctors will question your choice, heavily so the younger you are, and even refuse to do it if you are young. They give the excuse that you might change your mind, and the risk that you might sue them. Maybe it doesn't apply to the USA at all, but I would double check that... We have a lot of similarities in laws.
/r/MGTOW201/08/21 10:42 PM
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Children: But then my guess is that even in the USA, you would probably be screwed, even if not married, simply through the existence of a child. I doubt she'd get 0$. I also am VERY surprised by what you say, regarding only 7-8 states taking cohabitation into account. Are you sure? I'm not an expert on USA laws, for sure, but that seems to contradict a lot of things I've been reading about men getting screwed. Are you sure men don't get screwed "in some ways" when not married but cohabitating m…
/r/MGTOW201/08/21 10:38 PM
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I definitely agree, MGTOW monk is the safest bet. I'm my post, I was not even referring to false accusations. I was saying that even a nice woman who doesn't falsely accuse you and is a nice, moral person, would STILL be a huge risk for a man, because the government thinks she's earned the man's assets and even future salary, "just because she was there". In that sense, moving from one woman to the next, at most every 6-9 months, is much safer, against government abuse. But if you take false acc…
/r/MGTOW201/08/21 10:31 PM
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So important. So important. And be persistent, because doctors will try to stop you from getting that vasectomy, even refusing to do it. Just one more abuse against men.
/r/MGTOW201/08/21 05:14 PM
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Because a steady woman leads to all kinds of complications, only one of which is the LAW, after barely a year around her. In most places you don't even need to marry, only cohabitating puts you on the hook and as a judgement in Canada has proven, not even cohabitating at all you can still be on the hook for millions. The risks are forever growing. Enough said.
/r/MGTOW201/08/21 05:11 PM
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Fair enough! It's not that it was not a good question. I think it reflects the fact that men have no place to hide nowadays, no place to talk between themselves etc, hence this "trying to reach out to other men" which is indeed so very lacking.
/r/MGTOW201/08/21 01:11 PM
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Not sure for how long any "would-be MGTOWs" would be looking at a MGTOW reading the newspaper.... It would take someone who does very interesting things, to keep the interest going. In a way, this already exists. I'm sure a lot of MGTOWs (and even married men who are dreaming of escaping their lives) are already looking at all the videos of other men building their cabin in the woods? Or those "primitive" building skills, like the one where the guy builds pretty much everything from primitive ov…
/r/MGTOW201/08/21 12:50 PM
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Your message is exactly the reason why the laws allow women everywhere to R#PE a man without ever going to prison, or even having it called "r#pe" at all. Even tying him to the bed and forcing him inside her with a gun and making herself a kid. You're really not helping men.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/08/21 11:49 AM
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Well, you're right that feminism has been a big business to benefit the government, by making individual men pay for stuff "the government" would have paid otherwise. But something even worse is beginning to make governments nervous around the world for many years now: denatality. I've seen it in a report from the UN or other big international organization, I forgot which one, over 30 years ago. It went something like this: —there is a problem of denatality and the solution is immigration. Which…
/r/MGTOW201/08/21 11:21 AM
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I wouldn't know I guess. Years ago when I've decided "I'M OUT!", I didn't even think of searching for a group of men doing the same thing. But for what I know, I would tend to disagree that the original group of MGTOWs were any less good than those of today. Actually I'd think today is less coherent.
/r/MGTOW201/08/21 12:41 AM
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See, that's the thing. You might be trans but you're not an idiot, you respect others and they respect you back. So easy. As far as I'm concerned, I'm not surprised at all that you say the MGTOW community is very accepting. Why not? When you think of it, I feel the MGTOW community is very much about freedom.
/r/MGTOW231/07/21 11:57 PM
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Go Your Own Way. Know why you're doing it. It's not about women. It's about the laws. A vasectomy can solve half of the problem. Not cohabitating can solve the other half. Life is a game. Play to win. You define 'win'. Rules are good: make your own. Happiness comes with pushing your limits. Feel lazy? You don't need a detailed plan, but you need a compass. You can't control others but you can control yourself. The world is imperfect. That's why you're needed. If you don't move, you're not going …
/r/MGTOW231/07/21 09:29 AM
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Oh!!!!!! Now I get it. Indeed, that is exactly the reason I decided going my own way, years ago: to regain immediate control over my life, not waiting on the government to come back to its senses. Being in control of ones life is important to men. Thanks.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 01:16 PM
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Questions, questions, questions. No feedback whatsoever. No opinion. Just emotionally detached questions asking for clarifications. I don't believe for a second that you're 'some random dude' who 'stumbled opon this group and is curious'. Not that i care but, just saying...
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 10:55 AM
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Your book must be old. "A flat line" for pleasure? Really? With the trillion things that make men happy, from videogames to building a cabin in the woods to becoming a master at whatever they like... I don't your line still holds true for a modern man.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 10:44 AM
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It definitely seems to be hugely hard to grasp because government, "journalists", "feminists" and anybody who comes up with studies and lists of reasons "why men no longer marry" or why "natality is going down" all come up with every stupid reasons imaginable, while never mentioning "the elephant in the room" ever. Well, that's exactly the reason I went my way: to not have to wait 50 years for them to even just "identify" the problem. These things take generations to turn around and I'm just not…
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 10:38 AM
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Get rid of your TV, get involved in stuff you like that keeps your brain or body active, such as sport, learning a musical instrument, and so many other things. Once you get really involved in a passion, loneliness will be a very small thing in your life. Never entirely disappears, but many people in relations are very lonely too. Everything is a trade-off, you just take the best one.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 10:20 AM
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Simple. A woman prosecutor decided not to send another woman to prison, because it's only a man's life that was ruined, nothing significant.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 04:33 AM
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Well obviously it's not that every women do that. It's that all women CAN. Obviously, a man who has no assets or earns equal or less than his woman is mostly going to be fine. In any case, I have nothing to sell! So whatever suits you is perfect for you! That's the good thing about real MGTOW: we don't recruit :)
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 04:04 AM
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You should have paid then ;) My recovery was like nothing happened. A really fantastic private clinic. It was worth the 300$, if you tell me it was not painless for you. In any case, it's worth the suffering, lol.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/21 03:58 AM
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Well I live in Canada too and it was definitely not free in Quebec. I think 300$ if I remember. You must be in another province? The real question I have: I am extremely surprised doctors let you do that so young. As far as I know, they would literally refuse any young men a vasectomy upfront, for fear of being prosecuted later if it cannot be reversed. As I understand things, the government has always been extremely against this idea of men being able to control their contraceptive measures in …
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/21 01:42 AM
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Seriously, at 18? I really think that's the best thing a young men can do nowadays. You are totally ahead of the game.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/21 12:08 AM
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You missed the point: the laws of today makes you lose all control over your own life when you cohabitate, marry, or worse of all have kids, with a woman. Women have ALL THE CARDS, 100% of the control, and partner with the all-powerful and men-hating government. YOU, as a man in a developed country, have nothing. Please research this and take the time you need to reflect on the power dynamics, the advantages/disadvantages, the risks to you (and ONLY to you the man). No woman was ever bad to me a…
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 12:02 AM
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What are you talking about? Incels? Neither MGTOW nor Incels even existed as words when I've decided one day "I'm out!" after the government passed one too many misandrist law putting men's assets and freedom at high risk. It's got nothing to do with ones ability to get women. I've been married (before men became 2nd class citizens), had kids, had long term relationships with women in many countries and probably helped push the official "sex statistics" counts UP, all by myself. Those who think …
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 10:02 PM
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Listen, you will not find the magical pill that will make it easy. You have hormones, dreams and so on. Whatever you decide, to be alone or to be with a women, you will have ups and downs, positives and negatives. That said, you need to consider some important factors. For example the laws, which are maybe the number one reason, unless you like to have your life destroyed. In many countries (pretty much all developed nations, where feminism is entrenched) they have extremely abusive laws targeti…
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 03:07 AM
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You are describing something that existed before, not now. Women (like men) had to respect a lot more boundaries then, which led to longer lasting relationships and stuff like you describe.
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 02:37 AM
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The problem is (or one of), the child will never see this non-biological "dad" as strongly as the real biological mommy, and neither will the state. The state will recognize this man 100% though, but only for the financial responsibility side of it. And even if, as you say, "sometimes it happens," that is utterly irrelevant. This man is an idiot who doesn't know anything about statistics and facts, as well as, I'm sure, having serious lack of self esteem.
/r/MGTOW27/07/21 12:14 PM
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Why even pay 10-20$? Never did. I pay for my stuff, they pay for theirs. Never had a complaint and was quite successful. The idea is to not doubt it, but rather be confident that this is normal. Which it is.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/07/21 04:04 AM
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The one who seems most butthurt is you. I'm really sorry about that. I guess you probably focused on the 4 words "get off your ass" instead of what I was saying in it's entirety and in context. I'll agree with you that it wasn't my best 4-words choice though. I mostly agreed with your post and my post was mostly referring to the last part of yours, which i disagreed with. Maybe you missed it, but it makes no sense to be mad at me for telling you all the good stuff that's out there "because you h…
/r/MGTOW227/07/21 01:00 AM
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Those who like it, like it. But many things in life are just temporary fads. What's your gain? Personally I think it's dumb. A man needs release, period. Your body wants it, and why would you want to ignore what your body wants? Some will say it lowers your productivity, while I'd say it's the best way to instantly lower stress, have a small nap, restart with a clear mind, ready for challenges with your mind focused on the right thing! Some say you will become an addict if you satisfy yourself t…
/r/MGTOW226/07/21 10:25 PM
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I'd much prefer the Russian government have my data than any of the 5-eyes countries so I vote for Telegram. The guys who developed it needed privacy for themselves and I doubt the government has any access. They are rich and have enough money to the "Telegram foundation" that they don't need to become corrupted of sell themselves out to corporations just to survive. They are already amply funded. Telegram's private chats are probably the most accessible there is, developed which such high quali…
/r/MGTOW26/07/21 12:45 PM
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If you can't believe the words of those who actually lived those experiences, maybe you can start by looking at the opinions of a few lawyers maybe? Go read a bit on realworlddivorce.com about the USA and Canada, from a legal perspective (and they barely touch the surface)... It's not only about "women being bad". Women are women. Men are men. It's about a "system". It's about laws. It's about real-world judgments. It's about extreme bias in society.
/r/MGTOW25/07/21 10:20 PM
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Great information but also, some specifically for Canada instead of the USA as usual, so this is gold. Keep the posts coming. Don't you have a channel? The Canadian "off the grid" market is not over-crowded yet...
/r/MGTOW25/07/21 09:49 PM
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What you're saying only makes sense in a world where laws, society and everything is not heavily stacked against men.
/r/MGTOW225/07/21 02:59 PM
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—I don’t have a crushing need to nut ten times a day. That's good news because she probably wouldn't let you. Not in the long term anyway...
/r/MGTOW225/07/21 02:54 PM
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Sorry about that, English is not my first language so I need to learn about "spinsters" still, 🤭
/r/MGTOW225/07/21 02:03 PM
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Well that was an interesting read, thank you. A lot of people must be really unhappy if the statement "We are driven by deep motivations to stay connected with friends and family" in the current world with so many people without "significant" friends/families...
/r/MGTOW225/07/21 01:05 PM
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You haven't tried yourself, clearly, because you'd have realized that society has many laws and concepts in place to prevent you from actually "going out of society". Society wants to force you to stay on the plantation. Even just getting a tiny house legally is a challenge in most places (entire Canada) in the US they are going after people living in deserted areas, making it illegal to live in your camper etc. So where do you suggest to understand this experiment of yours? What you are saying …
/r/MGTOW225/07/21 12:45 PM
1

I always hear that one, about humans being social animals. At some point I should go check it up and see what this oft-repeated argument is actually based on something real. So many baseless things are being blindly repeated by people who don't have a clue. Often you go read the actual research paper and what it says has been completely twisted and misinterpreted. In any case, whether it's true or not, my point is that in today's world a LOT of people have proven that they can be pretty happy wh…
/r/MGTOW225/07/21 12:31 PM
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Amish? Sit around and pray all day? If you don't see anything else you can do with your time when not watching TV, you really need to get off your ass and realize all the fantastic options out there for self fulfillment.
/r/MGTOW225/07/21 12:11 PM
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Although it's true, it won't be true for much longer. Society doesn't care only as long as a minority do it. With the number of "future tax payers" dwindling, you be sure that changes are coming and bachelors will be vilified.
/r/MGTOW225/07/21 12:04 PM
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Indeed, and I can imagine other reasons. I'm pretty sure it could also happen after "a particularly intense" session of fun, or a particularly long one, for example.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/07/21 04:24 AM
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This is actually a pretty good come back. Not over-the-top, in fact it's "almost polite" but extremely effective. Still, once you're finished saying it, the next step STILL must be to ditch the relationship though.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/07/21 10:31 AM
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I've indeed had women telling me this first hand. I mean, directly say that they loved that feeling of hurting between the legs when they walked the following day after a wild night of sex with me. These were not one nights but not LTRs either, just short term. It's nice when you're on the receiving end of this as a compliment (actually wasn't a "compliment", they just stated this matter-of-factly), but pretty sick when your "loving" long term partner would be comparing you to such experiences w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/07/21 09:59 AM
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Are YOU "packed up and ready to live in the wilderness" ?? And how would that really help anyway?
/r/MGTOW223/07/21 04:14 AM
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You are definitely well informed is all I can say. All truths.
/r/MGTOW222/07/21 08:59 PM
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Women generally age faster than men. They also have much more baggage even when not-so-old. There is literally zero up side to doing such a thing. You have found one??
/r/MGTOW22/07/21 05:11 PM
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It's nothing to do with wrong society or wrong planet. Simply, the fact that "you think for yourself" is a sure way to feel as you feel, no matter at which time in history you would have been born.
/r/MGTOW222/07/21 10:46 AM
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Fact checked as false. https://factcheck.afp.com/no-being-unable-find-sexual-partner-will-not-make-you-disabled-under-new-world-health-organization
/r/MGTOW222/07/21 10:26 AM
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At some point, I accept that if everything turns against me, I'll let the government handle the rest of me. In the mean time, I WILL LIVE.
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 09:09 PM
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I'm not sure life is best lived planning for worse possible case. What do you think happens to those with Parkinson and no money?
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 08:19 PM
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I think you missed the (highly probable) sarcastic take on society...
/r/PussyPassDenied21/07/21 10:45 AM
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I think it's the wrong question. No matter if you'd be able to find a nice woman, matching your standards and all, the problem is that: -people change -the entirety of society is pushing her to change, in the wrong direction, according to what you say you want. -she has all the societal and legal power and you have none. All the societal respect and you have none. So finding such a woman might be possible, but you are still putting yourself in a highly imbalanced, heck, "dangerously imbalanced" …
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 09:54 AM
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Don't know why but small towns are nicer than bigger cities. Because less people means that most of them know each other, directly or indirectly. This has a tendency to keep people in line with the community more than an anonymous city. Because people know each other.
/r/MGTOW21/07/21 09:33 AM
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This you will find a real challenge. I do understand what you are looking for and why. I share the pain, but the solution is highly elusive and is definitely not about a particular neighborhood.
/r/MGTOW21/07/21 09:27 AM
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If you think you will gain more freedom in a "higher class" area, you are sorely misled. Laws and standards will definitely be applied more. That's the reason it's clean, organized etc, and the people living there, just like everywhere, are nicer with the people who don't make waves and match their standards and priorities.
/r/MGTOW21/07/21 09:22 AM
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Kids can survive divorce. Think of yourself too. Try to get 50/50 custody. In any case you are right about a sexless marriage: this isn't a life. Make a decision and solve the problem. The dinner, the better.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 09:56 PM
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You know, we can wish for the world to be different all we want, but at the end of the day life is a game, and if you want to win, you need to adapt to the rules of the game and the current state of the game board. For example, I'm happy that I've had kids. I wanted them. But if I'd be young in today's world I would get a vasectomy instead of kids, whether I'd want to have kids or not. Because the rules of the game have fundamentally changed and now having kids is the single most potent high-ris…
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 04:34 AM
2

I don't even know that any "real man" EVER cares to ask society or anyone whether they agree with his choices. I know I couldn't care less. Do you??? Men should never let themselves be bullied. Ever
/r/MGTOW13/07/21 09:29 PM
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Be a man. That will be a better option in the long term.
/r/MGTOW13/07/21 09:23 PM
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Well, yes I get you. But with boys of 15 who can be r*ped by their teachers or any women and they end up having to pay child support, I wouldn't think my point to too moot either... Not that it happens every day but it's the fact of how the laws are applied against men and boys no matter how outrageously.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 09:13 PM
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But the thing is, these men didn't risk being transformed into financial slaves or to lose their own kids. Yes you can theoretically "make it" but if you just "hope" the misandry of the courts and society isn't going to destroy your life, you're quite a gambler....
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 09:09 PM
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So true. I lived an entire life of incredible experiences just in my 50s. Life as a man on his own can be totally awesome once you embrace it!
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 09:00 PM
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The best plan for a young man today is to get a vasectomy and forget about it. Sadly, having children is the most dangerous thing a man can do nowadays. Marriage and cohabitation are the next most dangerous.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 08:46 PM
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Pretty unorthodox solution. Well-done. I had a business with full 50/50 custody and I loved it, but my business definitely suffered but I didn't really care. It was all a lot of fun! And of course, with zero alimony/child support. Vasectomy is THE MOST IMPORTANT THING a man should do. If I'd be young today, I'd have one at 18 years old.... The risks/costs of having kids is just not worth it anymore. I'm happy I could have kids before the laws became so abusive of men.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 08:42 PM
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He really got me there. At first I thought only a "head" had been photoshopped on top of his (real) ice cream.... Started reading the comments and had to go back to the pic...wow...
/r/MGTOW11/07/21 11:56 AM
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Well, one thing needs to be taken into account. I decided to drop relationships years ago when the laws became clearly dangerous for men. So in effect "I invented MGTOW" all by myself, just like so many other men have done. My point is, a ton of men didn't go their own way because of discovering a YouTube channel or anything. They just did it, on their own, because it made sense. How many of these men didn't make it to YouTube yet? How's many still don't know it's called MGTOW and couldn't care …
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 01:23 AM
1

I'll take the view that a good life is a life which will make you fulfilled when it's time for you to die with no regrets. For me, it's about living a life of adventure, never settling too long in a comfortable situation but rather "pushing the limits", taking on the next challenge that I set for myself, constantly becoming a better and more accomplished man through my successes and failures. It's about self-growth. It's about being active, not passive. It's about being a producer, not a consume…
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 02:09 AM
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You are mixing different things. Staying single and going off-grid are two independent things. You could perfectly go off-grid as a married couple. You can also always "accidentally violate some laws" as you say, when married too. So as far as being a tax target as a bachelor, I believe it's possible. What to do? Well, as usual it will depend upon how they implement their laws. There is no point in trying to plan too much in advance, but if you really want to, you could keep assets in gold, bitc…
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 10:55 AM
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The "point" is whatever you make of it. That's called freedom. You are talking like "having a house", working oneself to die or drinking pińa coladas all day on a beach are the only options. You seriously need to look around you and open a few books. The world is filled with so many passionate things to do, I could live 15 lives and not be done with trying everything. I do understand that life offers little solutions for men who's only goals involve being with a woman though, with the current an…
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 01:59 PM
2

You're talking as if "being gay" was just a choice, as choosing a different brand of shoes. In spite of the "advantages" you mention, attraction is not really a choice.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 01:51 PM
1

Thx!
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 03:56 AM
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Damn... English is not my native language and I missed the reference in "Boss B"... Why is that funny? What does it mean?
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 05:21 PM
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Lol, ive never said only men should have the decisional power. I said the imbalance, which is "woman 100%; man: 0%" is disgusting. If she wants the baby and the man can say "then I'm out", it would be an acceptable trade-off. The deeper thing you don't seem to see is that this women 100% vs men 0% thing is constant, across the board. Men are abused. That's a problem.
/r/MensRights01/07/21 04:23 AM
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I don't know how a woman not having to go through the painful and tiring process of having a child she does not want infringes men's rights. Because the man will be forced to pay for it during 25 years against his will and will be forced to bring a human being who's a part of himself into this world, without his consent. Women: none of that. She singlehandedly decides everything. Even if she'd rape the man it would change nothing. If you can't see the obvious imbalance of decisional powers at EV…
/r/MensRights30/06/21 07:14 PM
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—They suppress any research on sex differences violently if necessary. Not really true. They only suppress those studies that put women at a disadvantage. The money is there for studies, scientific or not, that promise to show women as victims in any way, that's why we've been getting only one message for decennia (women good, men bad) which on it's own merit would a statistical impossibility. For example, the few studies of the justice system that were made long ago, all showed the clear anti-m…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/06/21 04:57 PM
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No. The best response is to never be "in the life" of someone else's children. Never treat them like your children, never support them. Sad, but that's the only legal and "safe" way. They expect you to be unable to not care for children in your relationship that aren't yours. Men will need to prove them wrong. If you absolutely must be in a relationship, stay uninvolved with the kids. Keep proofs.
/r/MensRights27/06/21 10:02 PM
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When I say "safe" I really only mean that's it's "less automatic" that a man would lose everything and become an economic slave, possibly lifelong. Of course I could still bring up a long list of other ways for the man to get seriously abused, including false allegations and so many misandrist laws, procedural ways, biases and so on. Also the fact that many men who were already divorced have been re-abused yet again, years and years later, when their financial situation changed (lottery, busines…
/r/MGTOW16/06/21 10:28 AM
2

Well I'm doing the same thing more or less, although I started later than you but I'm almost done now. Still, seeing other men successfully "applying the plan" is a great motivation. I'm at the point where I'm trying to decide how I'm going to live. Buy a piece of land and build a tiny house? Move to Asia where it's so cheap, but far from family (who are busy anyway so...) Buy the smallest condo in the city? Move to Latin America for the same reason as Asia, but nearer to Canada? Go to an older,…
/r/MGTOW16/06/21 02:02 AM
21

Pretty much no women wants a men who earns less than they do. They want a provider, EVEN when they make big bucks. On the other side, a man can ONLY be safe in a relationship with a woman who decisively out-earns him, so that she can't take him to the cleaners upon divorce. But what "real man" is going to feel happy with a woman who out-earns him and so takes the lead, etc? Society has setup men-women relationships in a lose-lose situation. Not going to end well...
/r/MGTOW16/06/21 01:30 AM
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It's interesting that you ask. I'm a software developer and I've had that idea for so many years... But men are a tough bunch as far as "making friends" go. I'm pretty sure there's demand because so many men are alone, but then again, men are so independent and often socially challenged. It's a wild bet developing an app like that for months and months and try to make it at least self-sustaining financially. Also how to make it resistant against those not really looking for friendship so much (l…
/r/MGTOW216/06/21 01:22 AM
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It wouldn't be so funny if it wouldn't be so true...
/r/MGTOW16/06/21 01:05 AM
1

This is so true. I think some men really don't think it through.
/r/MGTOW16/06/21 12:59 AM
2

Don't want to know you're personal details but I really wonder what for you is financial freedom? Was it like, saving 2000000$? Is it through real estate you rent? Passive income business? Investment interests? Living extremely frugally from your saved money? Living in a cheaper country? Can you share more details about your approach?
/r/MGTOW16/06/21 12:55 AM
1

Congratulations. If you can make cookies, you can probably make more good and easy to cook meals than you'll ever need. I mean, a chicken sauteed is easier to do than cookies...
/r/MGTOW213/06/21 07:49 PM
1

With infinite money, you can get ANY WOMAN you want for the month... and even if she's imperfect and will take you to the cleaners, you don't care: you can still move on to the NEXT woman next month since you have infinite money for alimon. Sounds like pretty much the best trade-off.
/r/MGTOW13/06/21 07:46 PM
1

both man and women get very promiscuous, and tolerate eachother beyond my understanding. I learn something new every minute of my life. I'd never be able to tolerate that. If you get there, as a couple, why stay together at all?? to watch it burn to the ground first. If I get to live that long, I will certainly miss the internet. I'd love to see it all burn to the ground, but not to see my retirement savings burn to the ground too, ha ha. But I've been thinking in that way since I invented MGTOW…
/r/MGTOW09/06/21 04:40 AM
1

Thanks for all the hints about Kazakhstan. Anyway with all the Covid thing, it's not going to happen this year. But it's good to know this information. What you say about women in kazakhstan totally confirms all that I've learned about it on YouTube and elsewhere. In any case I'm not sure if it would help in any way relative to a long term relationship, would it? The man would still end up being abused in 10, 20 years, as laws evolve for the worse, as everywhere in developed countries. I've only…
/r/MGTOW08/06/21 04:23 PM
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Я счастлив. я всё понял что ты писал по-русски без словаря :-) I actually want to go across Kazakhstan on my bicycle (I travel the world on my bicycle) and that's one more reason for learning Russian. I want to do it in Cremia, Russia, and other Russian-speaking places. When I went across Vietnam, it was exactly as you mentioned about Asia: a few places had more Russian than English! I agree that Russian is useful ...and also beautiful. As for women, I know that some extremist feminist ideas hav…
/r/MGTOW08/06/21 04:31 AM
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You mean "Siberia" as in ... Siberia, Russia?? Я начал изучать русский язык год назад :-) I've done pretty much what you are doing now: work more and save like crazy. Even became minimalist lifestyle. Still, I'm not cheap on the things that count, I just cut the crap out of my life. I'm at the end of this now, and planning my exit at any moment. Just delayed a bit by covid. I love the idea of living off the grid but laws make it difficult in Canada. Good luck!
/r/MGTOW07/06/21 11:37 AM
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Be it "manchild" or whichever name they come up with to try and shame us, the reality is that only an insecure man will be affected. Real men couldn't care less what other people think. The number one attribute of real men is that they think for themselves. I'm almost retired and live like a king: video games, guitar, painting... whatever I want, whenever I want, for as long as I want. Of course that kind of FREEDOM is guaranteed to piss off some people. MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW07/06/21 01:54 AM
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Maybe he's stupid. But you ignore the whole system that is built around bullying men into relationships, marriage, and the every ways in which the real outcome for men to get abused in divorce is downplayed and hidden by the media, the government and just simple everybody out there except a few men outlets that get censured and demoted etc. Short story: there's a lot of reasons that many men can't believe how the system "really works" until it happens to them. They might be to be blamed, but hey…
/r/MGTOW05/06/21 06:13 PM
1

It all depends on which country/state you live in. BUT, you also need to use your brain and look at TRENDS. The situation of how men are treated in a divorce court has only been deteriorating in ALL developed countries. Period. For over 50 years straight. Let me give you an overview of what's coming your way... In countries like Canada, prenups have the value of toilet paper, seriously. The woman will get a completely disproportionate amount of your assets, present and future, no matter what she…
/r/MGTOW214/02/21 09:41 PM
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Well, being much older by now, I can tell you that everything you wrote here does NOT match up with my own life experiences at all. As far as health goes, the statistics are clear: the more you do it, the better for your prostate. Also regarding "energy", my own experience clearly demonstrate that my "productivity" went through the roof after getting release, if only because you can actually stop thinking only about sex and focus on the stuff you really care about. Another thing many noticed, is…
/r/MGTOW224/01/21 07:04 AM
2

It's all outside of your control. Accept it and then go do something else. You don't have to follow the current rules of the game. Go play another game. Make the rules. Be happy.
/r/MGTOW223/01/21 01:51 PM
3

I really see no point to "nofap". Why??
/r/MGTOW223/01/21 01:42 PM
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I certainly found that answer very impressive, and you did it in a single message. You're a pro 😎 On the bright side, women like that save real men a lot of time as you can ditch them quickly and efficiently.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/21 01:37 PM
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Maintain "frame" as much as you like, the fact is that she has all the real, legal power of the state to crush you if she decides to. She can be as shitty to you as she wants and will face zero consequences. You will still lose. In fact you will lose even if you're being a good little puppy that licks her toes every day. What kind of relationship is that? With such a total imbalance of power in the "relationship", does it really make you feel better about it because you might survive it by "main…
/r/MGTOW23/01/21 01:00 PM
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I think the Brave browser doesn't do a bad job.
/r/MGTOW17/01/21 02:56 PM
3

It's totally possible to have the same "performances" in your life than a lot of "mainstream porn" shows. It doesn't mean that you "have to". It doesn't mean that you "always" have to. And if you can't perform like that today doesn't mean you can't perform like that tomorrow. Porn is a tool. Porn can control you, but you also can control porn. Porn can affect your self-esteem or not, it's all in how you use it and what purpose and meaning you assign to it. It's all in the mind. Porn is what you …
/r/MGTOW17/01/21 02:21 PM
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You are pretty much answering your own question. What is to be despised is that marriage is now a tool of the state to control the man and the man only (simple cohabitation does the same, in many jurisdictions) I was surprised that you almost said a truth that I realized long ago but have never really seen explicitly written anywhere: "Only women are guaranteed divorce." Men THINK they can always divorce. But even once you have the divorce papers in hand, are you really divorced if: -you not onl…
/r/MGTOW16/01/21 01:04 PM
2

Cambodia is just one of many possibilities I have for myself. But generally speaking, I love Asia. Being from Canada, Asia is so disorienting, so different, I love the feeling that "a new world is awaiting to be discovered". I can't have that feeling when going to the USA, London, or such developed western countries. They're all "somewhat the same" in too many ways, for a north american. And they're all going insane and more abusive to men by the day. I much prefer to be in a poorer country that…
/r/MGTOW16/01/21 03:39 AM
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I didn't know the guy, thanks. What I find unbelievable is that he ends up in South east Asia too, and even Cambodia as I am thinking myself. There's no chances that any weight lifting would turn my body into something that resembles his, ha ha, but I'll listen to the video where he talks about budget for sure. In any case, from my perspective it's all about freedom and self-respect. Developed countries have been fully working against men for a long time now. As a result (I believe it's a direct…
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 12:25 PM
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I tend to agree with your plan. Except I don't plan on making myself a victim and living a lowlife lifestyle. I'm FULLY into the final financial realization stage of my plan right now, having lived as a minimalist and prepared for an acceptable level of financial freedom. Then my next step, within 2 years, is to leave with my brain, my money and my passion to restart a new life in a country that wants me, such as Cambodia or other possibilities. My strength is that I made myself fully fluid and …
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 03:57 AM
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Well, if I'm any good example, government has lost thousands and thousands of dollars in taxes because of all this. Instead of working like crazy as I did before, I've been quitting my jobs and traveling for about 4 months every year, mostly paid for by my tax reductions. My life improved, and the government's taxes have shrunk by 30%. I'm not alone. A lot of men are "disconnecting" in various creative ways.
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 03:43 AM
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It could have been true, but it's not happening. Statistics (and also feminists' complaints about it) show that "men are not stepping up". In particular the younger crowd. So it seems men have instead chosen to say "f*ck it" instead of "I need to work harder". Which, if you ask me, is good.
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 03:37 AM
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If you stay focused and on your own, you'll recover from the financial mess faster than if you'd stayed married, and definitely happier and with 200% more freedom. It's a long time ago now, but I remember how I was making a ton of money and my wife did too, but we were ALWAYS in the red. From the very first day I moved out and divorced, I never crossed the red line ever again. It's only been up up up from there... And I haven't been depriving myself of anything: just that I made choices of what …
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 03:26 AM
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You mean that you're still not sure it's true that the laws allow the woman to get all the money she wants from you while together, or else the government, laws, courts, will make sure that she gets it when divorcing you? It's not that it happens with every woman, it's that it happens with every woman who wants it to happen. She has absolutely all the cards and you have none.
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 01:27 PM
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I have no idea where you got this idea that "post nut clarity makes us feel worthless", why? I really don't think this is common for most men because I never heard of read anything about such a thing. PNC is a fantastic tool with zero drawback, as far as I know.
/r/MGTOW07/01/21 02:19 AM
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Aside from "pornhub is your friend", here are a few hints: Have friends. Have passions and hobbies. Open your mind. Try things. Accept that IT'S NORMAL to feel lonely at times! If you think you're never feeling lonely when you are married or with a girlfriend, think again. Put it into your mind that living a life alone is not perfect, but neither is living in a relationship. Life is whatever you do with it. The important keyword is "DO".
/r/MGTOW201/01/21 04:48 PM
5

You put "value" into this house, so even if it's not yours, you probably are owed some money back. Ask the lawyer.
/r/MGTOW230/12/20 01:26 PM
2

This post summarizes the situation well. Even the last paragraph.
/r/MGTOW230/12/20 01:22 PM
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Well, it's not that it's bad advice but these 19 steps are a bit much for me. Seems overwhelming before you even start. I'd really simplify to what's really important: STEP #0: Go see a lawyer before anything else. Seriously. And forget any of these following steps, listen to the lawyer instead. If you're married you'll need to anyway (I don't remember if you are.) But if you don't want to, well, ok good luck and these steps are the minimum to protect yourself a bit. Don't say anything. Your goa…
/r/MGTOW230/12/20 01:18 PM
4

-stop spending on women -never get automated payments nor any subscriptions! -stop buying crap that make you happy for 1 week -determine a list of things you REALLY care about, those things you ALWAYS come back to. For example, for me it was a computer, a travel bicycle, an electronic piano or guitar, a few paintbrushes for doing watercolors. That's pretty much ALL I really care about. So I buy the best price/quality for these and skip everything else. -live in a nice but cheaper place then you …
/r/MGTOW29/12/20 06:29 PM
1

Absolutely not. I'm not good at learning languages as I have terrible memory! Also russian is a category 4 language which is supposedly estimated at about 1100 hours of learning for an English native. First, I'm not an English native, and second, I don't think people are "fluent" at the end of these 1100 hours at all. I'm still trying to learn from children books. I'm still trying to assimilate the Russian 'cases'. I'm still learning words. I can feel that I have a lot of "latent knowledge" that…
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 01:25 PM
3

I don't know about him, but I'm working on my fourth language right now, Russian. I think you can definitely learn a language for free nowadays, but why? If you invest a tiny amount of money, you can make it more enjoyable and possibly faster. Personally, I use a multi-faceted approach. For example on russian right now: -I found many incredible websites that give great grammar, tips, translation, dictionary etc, for free. I still paid for a Russian dictionary that works offline on my phone, beca…
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 05:20 AM
2

Thailand.
/r/MGTOW215/12/20 01:16 PM
3

All true!!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/12/20 01:39 AM
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Start by not doing anything. Then THINK whether you really want a house and a car, and why? Think and think again about what's really important to you and what you actually want to do in life and in your future. Houses are overpriced pretty much everywhere and although they are a better investment than a car, they both are the biggest money-suckers you will ever get (aside from a woman). It's none of my business and I frankly don't care, but I'm just saying this because sometimes we do things be…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/20 04:08 AM
1

Very simple: I day trade inside my RRSP, which is a retirement savings account in Canada — no tax on anything until you withdraw it from the account. I don't know if you can do that with an equivalent account in the USA. Just like you say, it takes the hassle of taxes and paperwork out of the equation. Anyway it's not like I'm lacking "contribution room" to my retirement account so putting that day trading money in there doesn't affect my capacity to invest in retirement in any way. In fact, it …
/r/MGTOW213/12/20 12:56 PM
4

Day trading can be great. As many things, it depends on many factors. Personally I've settled into doing quick "get in, get out" where I see an opportunity, invest usually 25000$ to 50000$, for between 10 minutes to a few hours, and get out of it with between -200$ to 1000$+ dollars usually. I don't do it often because I only target the best technical charts I can spot and because I'm working a day job but every week I try to make at least a trade. The way I see this, if I can learn to be succes…
/r/MGTOW212/12/20 08:08 PM
1

I find the concept of a "married MGTOW" a bit ridiculous, since a marriage is the exact OPPOSITE 'definition' than 'living for yourself'. So as far as I see this, if your goal is to stay married, then you should definitely head towards the redpill sub. Then again if you really want to live the MGTOW life as a married man, which basically means you will put yourself first, pretty much exclusively, you can imagine that it will affect your marriage dramatically, and pretty fast. I think it could go…
/r/MGTOW205/12/20 01:13 PM
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I would tend to agree, ... In a free world. But we're not in a free world. With the huge forces of governments squarely working against men, it takes a foolish man to put himself right into the crushing hands of governments by marrying or having children. Doing this is the same as knowingly relinquishing your freedom, which is pretty much the inverse of what seems to be the core value of your message...
/r/MGTOW203/12/20 11:57 AM
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I don't know what you're waiting for. Sex IS important to you? Leave. I know I did... As someone else here mentioned, with today's "evolution" of the laws in many countries, mixing repeated requests for intimacy together with talks of divorce has the potential to be interpreted as coercion. Be careful with that. Anyway, at the point where you are I don't see why you would even try to fix things up. If she had any intentions of fixing this problem she would have done it long ago. Saying that you …
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 11:50 PM
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I think saying "I don't date fat girls" to a woman might be effective, but is the best way to get into trouble sooner or later if she gets mad and makes it known to other people, at work for example. Triggering people and making them feel attacked puts you at risk of direct or indirect retribution. In today's world, it could leave you seriously bruised, as a man, whether you are right or not. I think it would be more effective to approach this in a more covert way. Personality, I make fun of it …
/r/MGTOW202/12/20 12:32 PM
1

I'm not sure what is your message exactly. You devalue yourself and think your life is in ruins because you can't start a business and will need to work a day job and come across women during your day? Really? What do you mean, "I won't be able to stay MGTOW"? Being MGTOW is not about where you work. It's about how you think. Come on man. You need a reset on your understanding of what MGTOW is all about and what a man is all about. I started multiple businesses in my life (small ones) but right …
/r/MGTOW202/12/20 05:37 AM
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It's a common dilemma for men. The system is built in such a way that you won't even know what happened to you... You love her and she doesn't seem like a bad woman at all. Why break up? Here's why... The best reason to break up, assuming you live in a developed, feminist country, is that ALREADY she will be given alimony. Is not too bad right now, because it's been only two years. As a rule of thumb, you more or less have to pay for half the length of time you've been together (it definitely ca…
/r/MGTOW201/12/20 08:13 PM
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What's hateful and sexist are all the LAWS pushed successfully by ...women, which make relationship potentially dangerous to men. Both sexes have problems, but women's are all recognized and protected by law, while none of men's are. "Women" are not bad, I totally agree with that, but they have been given seriously abusive legal power over men. It's got nothing to do with "women being generally more attractive". It's about a profound imbalance of power where men are at the mercy of women, societ…
/r/MGTOW201/12/20 03:35 PM
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-"never trust women is psychotic" -"never take care of another man's child is monstrous" Not so, when you realize and take into account the FACTS that: -women have significant LEGAL, government-enforced power to destroy your life with pretty much just a phone call. Government, journalists, social media, all sides of society always instantly side with the woman, and will even excuse her behavior of she's ever found out (many even lied in courts, were found to have lied, suffered no retribution). …
/r/MGTOW201/12/20 01:35 PM
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That's quite an aggressive half-truth... Men have to be "capable of standing for themselves" and most would, IF there weren't a 2000 pound gorilla (government) fully siding with women to abuse men with its overwhelming power. The problem is not women, it's the laws. Laws that make women the "enemy" because they have disproportionate (100%) power against men.
/r/MGTOW201/12/20 12:40 PM
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That's why they have women-only gyms, but won't allow men-only gyms (at least in Canada). Society wants to force temptation onto you. Why do you think they dress in the way they do at the gym? Look elsewhere... When your attention is driven towards a woman body at the gym, immediately think of false accusations or the years of alimony you could get and that will train your brain (so you'll really be training your whole body at the gym ;) )... Masturbate right before going to the gym... You'll ju…
/r/MGTOW229/11/20 02:17 PM
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Relationships are an exchange. Assuming women want affection as you say (incorrect), it doesn't mean men have to want the same thing. If what matters to men is sex, they have as much "right" to it than women would have to affection. Whoever does not receive whatever it is that they want out of the relationship is perfectly allowed to get out of that relationship. Women do it all the time (80% of them start the divorce process) and men are perfectly in their right to do the same. Society approves…
/r/MGTOW23/11/20 11:18 AM
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As the "fact checkers" like to say: "partly true." I mean, MGTOW is simply what it means, and the "problem" is not "women", it's the laws. BUT, the message of warning men about women is still absolutely needed, not because they are all bad, not at all, but simply because the GOVERNMENT is now women's official and totally biased legal executioner. Through decennia of pressure coming from feminist extremists, laws were passed, false narratives were developed, and in the end governments have become…
/r/MGTOW221/11/20 09:07 PM
4

Asia is better than any developed country. BUT it's not perfect and is slowly deteriorating. Also, an Asian woman can STILL bring you to court in your home country and they will judge you with their laws: alimony and all. As far as I know, it's already been done in the USA. I believe there is pretty much NO safe solution to have kids or marry, anywhere. Since you can't become naturalized in Asia, then you can't renounce your US citizenship either. You can still "work around the system" and it wi…
/r/MGTOW220/11/20 11:27 PM
2

I wish. Maybe "upcoming" was misleading (English is not my first language). I just meant that I'm trying to find and focus on a business I can handle from anywhere. I will be traveling the world over long periods on my bicycle, stopping in various countries for 1-3 months at a time to enjoy the place and be able to work more intensively. Since I'm a professional software developer, the idea of coming up with a Saas product seems like a given. It would be a perfect match. But I'm just starting wi…
/r/MGTOW216/11/20 04:47 AM
1

You are severely entrenched in your cult. Men rape statistics are profoundly manipulated in most countries. First they don't count prison rape, like in the usa. Then the FBI definition didn't count a women forcing a men to penetrate her as rape, no matter if it's done at the point of a gun, if he's drugged or otherwise. Women can do no bad. They worded the law so that a man can only be raped if he's penetrated... A woman can even impregnate herself by force and make the man pay alimony to his ra…
/r/MensRights16/11/20 04:04 AM
1

Cool. I'm reading books about micro and macro economy :-) I read them in spanish so as to brush up on my Spanish at the same time. Also books about statistics. It's great to be a geek. Lol...
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 10:02 PM
1

I am a bit older and I've tried it all. I'm very sexual, always been, and I disagree with a lot of things that are being repeated everywhere. I somewhat discussed this in another related post, but let me tackle it again here. First, you need to think about YOUR needs and YOUR value system. What's a solution for one man might not work for another man. I sincerely disagree with the suggestions about "semen retention", or "nofap" etc. Regular ejaculation is directly linked to a REDUCTION of prostat…
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 10:00 PM
1

Solid advice.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 09:14 PM
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You need to think about YOUR needs and YOUR value system. What's a solution for one man could be disaster for another man. I don't see men who seek "professionals" in a bad light, but I would never want to do it for myself, it just doesn't fit "me". I sincerely disagree with the suggestion here about "semen retention", or "nofap" etc. Regular ejaculation is directly linked to a REDUCTION of prostate cancer risks. So make sure to exercise your machinery... The more often, the lower your risks (wi…
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 08:55 PM
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Don't worry. Focus on improving your own person, your own life, your own future, find your passions by trying new things, strive to spend much less than you earn by not buying shit you don't need, by finding what exactly makes you tick for real. Ditch your need for external validation. Be bold. Guaranteed happiness.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 07:20 PM
1

What's Econ?? I don't get the reference, maybe because English is not my first language... Economy???
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 07:13 PM
2

A lot of the same things you do yourself, it seems... . Practice guitar and piano . Continue learning Russian . Do the outline for a MGTOW book I want to write . Think about my upcoming Saas business for when I ditch my job after covid and become a nomad . Go bike for exercise
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 06:27 PM
1

Pretty damn good analysis.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 01:04 PM
3

Not at all. WE decide to go on a date.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 12:56 PM
1

So obvious to anyone who's not "needy".
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 12:54 PM
2

I never paid on the first date ever. Will never do. Never had a problem with women about that. They might be disappointed having to pay their own coffee or drink, but I think they also fancy a man who's clearly not "needy". Society's expectations are irrelevant to me.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 12:50 PM
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It's for you to decide. How many men do you want to be compared with? Do you care she's had sex with more men than you had with women? Were these one nights? What age is she? Do you care she's had a threesome and you didn't? Had very well-endowed men and you're not? Did she cheat? Etc etc etc. I'm not saying the above questions are things you MUST be concerned about. Just giving example questions of things that DO affect many men.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 12:27 PM
2

The anti-men laws do. The anti-men culture does. Don't put yourself in deep trouble.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 12:24 PM
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I so totally agree: asking questions is my #1 strategy. I apply it successfully in ANY context where I face people who have cult-like beliefs. It's the only option your have when talking with people who reject facts and where "the mob" will attack you for being a "non-believer" in their false narrative. That definitely includes pretty much everything having to do with men/women relationships these days. Never attack feminism directly. Instead use the softest voice and the most innocent-looking f…
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 12:11 PM
4

As a minimalist, I'm all-in with you on this. This "no cable tv", "no LTR", "no this", "no that" is completely life changing. It's a hugely applicable and useful strategy.
/r/MGTOW213/11/20 05:58 PM
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You have a super original idea, to say the least. Driving a TANK through a building! I love it, ha ha. Me it's because I will ride my bicycle across the Russian-speaking countries. That will take about a year and so will give me time to brush up on my Russian as I go and meet people along the way, but I want a good headstart so I'm seriously learning it already. Also I may retire in Ukraine or something like that, if not in Asia. Wherever laws are less abusive of men (certainly not Australia!!!)…
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 11:28 PM
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Cool! So I'm not alone learning Russian? What made you want to learn it, is it related to MGTOW?
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 10:15 PM
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Just to contradict everybody, I'd say if he's really a good friend, it's worth it for you to at least give it a "safe shot". For example telling him "did you ever hear about the red pill?" The "safe" part requires that you don't push it further if he's not interested, and even if he's interested you don't try to convince him but rather points him to relevant information for him to discover on his own. I agree you can't save someone who doesn't want to save himself. But what are real friends for,…
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 06:34 PM
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Women are not the enemy, the laws are. Then again, it's women who destroy men through these laws. As for the above video, I see nothing but a big men-hating bubble, "women right, men wrong, and if you don't agree with us you are part of the problem." It all brings into focus the point that MGTOW is the only solution because it's obvious there is no reconciling the two diametrically opposite line of thoughts. MGTOW is the only and best way for men to stay safe and thrive, not losing their preciou…
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 06:10 PM
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ты ли русский? мой русский друг в Москве, кажется, не понимает MGTOW. (извини для мои ошибок, потому что я только начал изучаю русский язык девить месяцев назад.)
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 04:43 PM
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Listen. Once you understand the world well enough to go MGTOW, you shouldn't CARE what women or society thinks or wants anymore. Seriously.
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 04:41 AM
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I understand your thinking, but I'd dare say you could make a potentially serious mistake for yourself and your son by acting in the current world using the rules of a world bygone.
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 04:01 AM
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I really feel the same regarding the younger guys. I'm happy I've had a family when I was young, but I realize that in TODAY'S context, that option would have been out the window and I would have missed on that life experience. In today's world, I would get a vasectomy very early, for my own safety.
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 03:57 AM
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How can feminists pressure you?? For sure one shouldn't publicize the fact that he's a MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 03:49 AM
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It's really a great satisfaction when you get to this point, isn't it? It's also a potentially dangerous stage, because it attracts "derailers" who won't let you be so happy alone... They try to convince you that your life is imperfect and would be better with a woman, kids, etc, implying that you're missing something. I think many men can fall for that, not realizing that NO option is perfect. Yes one can be lonely without a woman, for example, but one can also be lonely WITH one. Life alone is…
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 03:48 AM
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Do not forget about developing passions. It's at least as good as friends for a satisfying, fulfilling life.
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 03:37 AM
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Sounds like truth to me...
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 03:19 AM
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I'm at the end of my career and I'm just finally getting there, so I can only tell you to be optimistic and focused. There is so much more knowledge out there nowadays, such as "FIRE" and minimalism, and you are so very young, I'm sure you'll succeed at a much earlier age than me :-) In any case, I had to come back from my trip across Europe/Asia on my bicycle because of the virus so I'm back yet again in a boring job saving $$$ until the world reopens again. We always have to readjust our plans…
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 03:18 AM
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It's for nobody to decide what is okay or not for you to do. But if you care for the MGTOW acronym, it's well documented that there are many levels (up to "monk".) I absolutely do not dislike women either! My "official girlfriend" lives in another country where I go when I please, usually a few months at a time. Then I go back home or travel to other countries for sporty adventures. At home I don't want too many women around, so as to maintain complete focus and productivity and freedom. I LOVE …
/r/MGTOW210/11/20 08:35 PM
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No place is perfect and this is a huge question I've been investigating over years. And it's constantly changing. But generally speaking, the best places for men to be free are more to be found in: -secluding oneself (whether off-the-grid or otherwise) -becoming a minimalist in order to need less and accumulate your freedom money much faster (it's UNBELIEVABLE how fast you can save money as a minimalist with no woman) -then when you have enough cash (or some remote job), moving to southeast asia…
/r/MGTOW210/11/20 03:26 PM
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People said a lot of things. What to add? Masturbation however often is not a problem in itself. It only becomes a problem if it takes control of your life. Real sex is not the same as masturbation. I disagree with those who think that it can be. But life is not what you want, it's what it is. Even when in a relationship you DON'T get sex when and however you like (in fact, you might be much worse off than single and free to go get it when you really need it) You are what you do. I mean, you are…
/r/MGTOW210/11/20 12:43 PM
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I don't know why you think being ugly would be the only reason for being MGTOW in today's world. Of course some MGTOWs will be, and using MGTOW as a means for self validation. But most men are coming to a MGTOW lifestyle for real, practical reasons. I'm older, had kids, marriage, divorce (before it became a men-hating sport), plenty of women (pretty good ones, to be frank), but the context changed. Context of men-women relationships changed and can now be summarized as follows : IF the woman wan…
/r/MGTOW210/11/20 12:10 PM
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Freedom rocks.
/r/MGTOW210/11/20 11:52 AM
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I'm not proud "to be a MGTOW" per se, as MGTOW is just a tag. I'd say it's more about being proud to have a good reading of the world around me AND to be intelligent enough to come up with an appropriate response AND to be man enough to act in my best interest IRRELEVANT of what the whole society or anyone might think. I mean, there's nothing to be "proud of" in disconnecting from women and society. It's not a goal in life, is it? If society wasn't so evilly abusive of men, I would never have in…
/r/MGTOW210/11/20 10:53 AM
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