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DiscussionAFOQTNewbie/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 02:30 AM
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DiscussionAFOQTNewbie/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 04:49 PM
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DiscussionAFOQTNewbie/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:09 PM
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DiscussionAFOQTNewbie/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 10:01 PM
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Question For WomenAFOQTNewbie/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:33 PM
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Question For WomenAFOQTNewbie/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:23 AM
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Question For WomenAFOQTNewbie/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 11:49 AM
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Question For WomenAFOQTNewbie/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 05:28 PM
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CMVAFOQTNewbie/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:43 PM
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DiscussionAFOQTNewbie/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 03:10 PM
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Isn't there a statistic that 40% of relationships begin from OLD apps? Do women get resentful that more "average" looking guys will commit to them as opposed to hot men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 04:48 PM
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I have personally found that most people are usually within their weight range from their pics. 50-100 would be genuinely comedic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 04:47 PM
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You may have a point. Its probably likely
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 04:46 PM
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Shit im still pretty much a novice.
/r/seduction20/08/21 03:17 PM
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What do you mean by mystery?
/r/seduction20/08/21 02:58 PM
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Honestly anything. I like flirting, dancing, kissing and if im lucky then going back to her place to get laid, but its always just that first initial contact that im shaky on
/r/seduction20/08/21 02:57 PM
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I've got gym down and a summer outfit thats a bit preppy, but works i think. Still some things a bit outta my control, but it is what it is.
/r/seduction20/08/21 02:56 PM
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I gotta work on getting more attractive.
/r/seduction20/08/21 02:10 PM
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I mean that definitely seems one way about it, but don't you think women hear that alot?
/r/seduction20/08/21 01:58 PM
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Im not tall. Im bascially around the mean for the US/Canada.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 09:14 PM
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Could that be that western countries are predominantly white?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 09:13 PM
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And whats that trend? That whites have a dating advantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 08:21 PM
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The most successful guy in my friend group is black so I don't think race plays a major factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:57 PM
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If women don't approach a guy then they don't want him? Have you been to a club? Men easily do most of the approaching. Some of those men have success
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:35 PM
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Call it irresponsible, but the night life simply won't return back to lockdown restrictions. Im vaccinated and want to go out. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:20 PM
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I have attractive girls in my social circle too. Maybe not to the level of Russian bikini models, but by all accounts pretty girls that most guys would be happy to be with. They aren't holding out for Mr. Moneybags.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:19 PM
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Exactly my point. Men really should be doing both.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:17 PM
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Lol dude I can't determine if they end up hooking up later. Im not following them around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:16 PM
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Why would attractive girls be single in the first place? I have no idea, but the main point being is I'm literally living proof of someone hooking up with girls that at the very least I found attractive and im all accounts an average looking 5'11 white dude who isn't fat. This whole harassment accusation people talk about is honestly I only hear online and NEVER in person. I wonder why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:14 PM
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Oh no not the supermarket or bus stop im talking bars/clubs/parties. Socially accepted avenues to approach strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:11 PM
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I fully agree
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:10 PM
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Now admittedly if something like that happened to me id be shaken up a bit, but the passage of times nulls most fears and pains for me at least. Something that happened once in 2012 honestly wouldn't phase me much in 2021 from going out and meeting women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 05:05 PM
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I really got to disagree with that because im an average dude and have been with attractive girls that I know would not have given me the time of day on OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 05:03 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 04:03 PM
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I gotta disagree with this. I've honestly never seen this happen. The worst rejection i ever got was a girl shaking her head and walking away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:54 PM
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I have women friends and I enjoy their social company. It can happen
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:53 PM
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Thats more organic and harder to control. OLD and cold approaching are things men go with intentions while dating people you know requires forming a social circle that may or may not lead somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:52 PM
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Yes. Good looking men have a clear advantage, but I've seen guys who are the same height as the girl they dancing with make out on the dance floor so it can happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:51 PM
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You are right that I think the meeting people through mutual friends or acquitances is probably best. I think though the reason I didn't include it is because often it just happens. Like with OLD or going to clubs, you have a goal in mind, but meeting through mutual friends is more organic and harder to predict
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:50 PM
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I personally think its helpful if both parties have similar levels. High n's with high n's. Lows with lows. Where a problem may occur is if the dude slept with 2 women in long term relationships while she's been having multiple guys run trains on her every weekend
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 03:50 PM
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Use protection
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 02:33 PM
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Why
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 02:14 PM
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A casual pump and dump isn't too bad though for a man to look at
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 01:54 PM
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Why would you advise against having a single mother as a casual sex partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 12:35 PM
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That actually made laugh and I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 09:32 PM
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Yeah bar admittedly may be more sketchy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:17 PM
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Thats fair. My thought process really just stemmed from the over done nature that I think dinner/coffee dates seem to bring so trying to see different and more fun avenues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 05:42 PM
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Not sure I understand. It would be a red flag if he DIDNT invite you clubbing with his friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 05:40 PM
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What if he gives a heads up? Would you think that first meetings should always be 1 on 1?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 05:38 PM
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I think that's very reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 05:36 PM
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Which part? The sleeping with over 100 women or spending 200 dollars on drinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 11:33 AM
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Like I said, his body count is over 100 and also would like to include he makes damn good money. He's doing fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:24 AM
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Yeah honestly dinner dates are sorta generic to be honest. I have actually done the mini golf thing and it's more interactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:22 AM
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That last part I fully disagree with. Most men would immediately heed the call to masculinity if they knew they could get a more feminine women. Women are far more likely to resist traditionalism (nothing wrong with that, just stating my observations)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:27 PM
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That's a hot take in its own right, but honestly as an average looking guy, there MAYBE justification lying about wanting a relationship to just be able to pump and dump. Separate topic though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:19 PM
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I won't deny for a second women do foodie calls. I fully believe that, but I feel like it can be more easier to vet. Asking you to spend 100 dollars at a restaurant is immediately someone to move on from.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:15 PM
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You are right and that's why the limits are important, but being able to display that you are comfortable spending your own money on activities and saying "I got this" when the check arrives can only really help with formatting a possible future relationship. 100 dollar dates are out of the question, but 30 dollars? Not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:09 PM
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Splitting checks is the norm that id agree with, but thats why as an average guy, willing to pay may have you be looked on more favorably as a potential partner. I can only see it as a benefit. The foodie call is something that while shitty, requires men to be vigilant. No one should spend 100 dollars on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:00 PM
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Being attractive bascially improves your life in every way imaginable. No question there. However, tradcon shit or not, if you just look at it from an objective standpoint point that a 25 dollar meal can have her look on you more favorable and be more inclined to date further I don't feel is a major sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:57 PM
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Thats exactly my point. Most men on OLD aren't pulling anywhere near the level of attention of even a slightly unattractive women. Id say with given how relatively infrequent it is for most men, paying shouldn't be an issue. You don't want to give her any additional reason to reject future dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:55 PM
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Correct. Its when 30 hits and if women get pregnant that their life time earnings bascially never recover.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:51 PM
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The people on FDS are mostly lost souls. Not much you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:50 PM
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Prostitutes only really satisfy the initial physical act of orgasming, but the feeling of validation is totally absent and its something men want to feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:50 PM
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I think 100 dollar dates are absurd if you aren't already in a relationship. Thats exactly why I state that men got to learn their budget. Do not be exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:48 PM
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Im not quite sure I buy the notion that women preferring men to pay for dates translates to men's wealth decreasing on a large socio-economic scale. Men as a whole earn more than women, particularly after 30 and especially if going to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:47 PM
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You are largely right in so far that yes, hot guys can get away with it easier than average with paying, but even Chad pays from time to time. My one Chad friend whose literally slept with over 100 women can easily spend 200 dollars a night at clubs buying drinks for girls. You just gotta find what your budget and limit is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:41 PM
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I think the fact you offer to split is admirable. I do feel like alot of men are conscious of their budgets and would draw a line to how much they can afford to date or not. Few men will spend 1k a month. For me, that line is 50 dollars tops on a first date. Some may be more, others less, but I can afford that and also tied with my frequency of dating
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:37 PM
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I get that, I do, but I feel like there's something important to remember about how alot of women whether rightly or wrongly DO appreciate that traditional masculine component of showing "provider" traits and if you are an average man you really got to bring those out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:34 PM
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I think by and large the masculine and feminine dichotomy is really enticing to most heterosexual couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:31 PM
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I actually heard of the ben Franklin approach where you ask others to do small favors which in turn trick them to wondering why they are doing it and in turn end up liking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:29 PM
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Im willing to bet the majority of men on tinder or other OLD sites arent getting 5 dates within a week. If in fact you are as a man then you can be far more selective with if you pay or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:28 PM
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Thats why I really think that its important to look at your budget and pick something very low and reasonable costing respective to what you can afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:24 PM
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I think that reasonable too. Definitely don't go big with going out, but 20-30 dollars isn't a huge deal in my opinion. I also haven't personally encountered the foodie call and haven't heard from other friends as well. Now I understand this is all anecdotes and perhaps if I've encountered it I'd be more wary of the future, but if I ask someone out, I'd be in position to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:11 PM
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Men by and large have lower standards than women. This is a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:06 PM
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How common is it for men not to practice basic hygiene? Also what about usage of anti depressants among women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:19 PM
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I think alot of men do indeed have this sort of issue and see women as shouldering more of the burden domestically
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:12 AM
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It is true men work more labor hours and should be accounted for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:03 AM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 09:27 AM
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I think perhaps in that case alot of women may love the idea of companionship more than the end result itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 09:17 AM
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What particular types of photos make men unattractive? How they dress? The environment its in?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:47 PM
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Glad im not alone. Sorry about being in the same situation. Sorta feels like I play pretend when they show more serious emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 05:10 PM
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Where do you even find those ratios? I've been to multiple bars and clubs in my area and its pretty much always 60-70% male to female.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:55 PM
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Would you consider a man who earns less than you if he was attractive and charismatic?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:11 PM
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Would you say your standards are attainable for most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:34 PM
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The requirements I have for casual sex versus a long term intimate partner are different. If its just sex then I largely don't care too much about things like how her personality is, how she treats others or if she's overweight because I understand I can simply move on to someone else without any emotional or financial strings attached. For example, i hooked up with an overweight woman from a bar about a month ago. I couldn't even tell you her name or what she really looked like from a crowd, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:41 AM
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I have sex with overweight women because the opportunity presents itself and im usually in good company. A long term relationship with an overweight woman is out of the question. However, when I've had normal weight girlfriends I've had no issue showing them to my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:18 AM
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I dont think you are right on this one. I objectively would not want a long term relationship with someone whose overweight. No "homoeroticism" will change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:07 AM
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Yes. You won't offend me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:47 PM
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Well not particularly. Why? Because we always have a good time. I get along with almost anyone I meet and can engage in conversations on topics they find interesting. When the conversation starts to include something to the regards of "What are we?". I explain id be a terrible boyfriend. I always mention that I cheated on a former girlfriend of mine and that im fearful of commitment. This usually works at driving them away.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:19 PM
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Honestly man I see dudes at the gym that I seriously considered getting on gear at a few points. Problem is I have no idea what to do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:14 PM
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Lmaoo. Hey physical fitness isn't just attracting women, but also for health and self image.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:07 PM
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I understand that. My experiences so far have been great, but I personally would like to have a monogamous relationship with someone of normal BMI and weighs less than me. Age withers all of us away, but being a normal weight is definitely achievable for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:05 PM
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I think that's very reasonable and it certainly isn't easy being in shape with modern economy and abundance of high sugary and fatty comfortable foods. Id like to ask though, does my strategy of simply dating/having sex with who I can (predominantly overweight women) until I meet someone who im really into be considered using? As someone like yourself mentioned you were big, id be curious on your thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:02 PM
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Im clearly messing up somewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:58 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:08 PM
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That's a bit hard for me to do because I admittedly like trying to rack up my n-count for as absurdly juvenile as it is. I figure once im at 30 I can take it easy and have more standards. Thankfully I usually get up and go home and don't really spend the night and wake up beside them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:30 PM
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I feel I really dropped the ball somewhere along the way. I'm not sure what im doing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:11 PM
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I should have said "equal" by physical fitness standards. I mostly date to see who I can get, even if not particularly attractive until I meet one who i can envision a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:05 PM
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5'11. White. Lower middle class (although that's changing soon). I think a part of it is I really don't stand out. Im very average looking by all metrics. I try going out to clubs and bars, I try OLD. I don't get great results so I make do with what I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:02 PM
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Hmmm, I would say its mostly because I am able to get aroused during the heat of the moment and have sex, but anything long term and the weight would bother me. There have been women I've slept with that admittedly id be embarrassed for my guy friends to know. Sad as it may be, its true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 05:42 PM
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This sub, for all the hate it gets from its users is actually one of the most engaging subs i look at. Don't know if that says alot about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 05:35 PM
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Lol well while I am fit I am fairly average in other departments with regards to height and face. I have been with very attractive women, but its rare and when the opportunity presents itself I cherish the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 05:27 PM
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Well I'm sorry for being dumb I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:57 PM
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I've literally never asked any overweight partner of mine this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:43 PM
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Well I appreciate the credit you have given me. I sincerely do. I may have made the misjudgement in assuming physical fitness being a universally desirable trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:42 PM
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It is not. I've stated on here that I do genuinely like interacting with heavier women because I enjoy company and sex, but I can't really see myself committing to anything long term because I know the attraction thing will be an issue in a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:40 PM
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Im glad you mentioned that. It seems asking someone to lose weight after dating is a really bad thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:36 PM
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Largely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:35 PM
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I believe im wrong on this point. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:29 PM
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Thats more accurate, but not the whole story. I do enjoy my time with the women I come across who are overweight. Going out and having sex is fairly enjoyable for me and I like interacting with people, but I do prefer fit women. Essentially, im playing the field until I meet someone who I am really attracted to. By which point id hope to form a longer term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:27 PM
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Not particularly. As mentioned on here, its largely because of lack of options. I take what attention I can get in the moment and try to play the field until I meet someone im really attracted to. By which point, id hope to have a relationship with long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:25 PM
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Thats fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:22 PM
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The growth of social media has really skewed alot of our perception of beauty and I think its disproportionately affected women, but men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:22 PM
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Never said they "should" im asking if they do. From the answers most women are posting here, the answer is bascially yes they acknowledge a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:20 PM
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I could be dumb, thats very well possible, but as far as I can tell, you assume I'm entitled to physically fit women because I work out? If so, you are wrong. I do not believe that. Im merely asking a question with regards to fitness differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:19 PM
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I dont believe I am no. Whats your point exactly? I'm merely voicing my opinion. Honestly though and without hostility, tell me what you think. Im trying to be polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:14 PM
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The only thing I would change in my post would be defining "equals" as in terms of physical fitness. (Which is measurable roughly speaking). Everything else does not indicate i view them as "inferior". I literally don't even mention to overweight women they are overweight because im polite and cautious of what i say.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:13 PM
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Is that necessarily wrong? Honest question from your point of view? I enjoy sex and am just playing the field to the best I can until I find someone im really interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:11 PM
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Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:10 PM
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I literally did not say anything about not treating them as people. My question apparently hit something personally to you clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:09 PM
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I've honestly seen it both ways. Fat people thinking they are fit or husky and skinny people thinking they are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:08 PM
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Well I'm glad that you have that sense of awareness, but I think alot of men understand context of pregnancy and I personally wouldn't mind at all in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:06 PM
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Oh wow that's fascinating that he's gone down to actual percentages. I hope he's fit as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:05 PM
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Good question i suppose in the context of being in shape by "equal". As for me, I've mentioned my reasoning for interacting with bigger women in an intimate context. Mostly due to lack of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:04 PM
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Honesty is a simple, but noble value to hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:02 PM
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So essentially at no point in dating can you mention to your partner "hey could you lose some weight?". Hypothetically speaking, imagine one partner is really fit, less than 10% body fat while the other has a BMI of 30. Now imagine 5 years down the road, that 10% body fat partner is now at 15% body fat while the one with a BMI of 30 is still at 30. If the heavier one mentions about losing some weight to the thinner one, would it be absurd or justified in your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:01 PM
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I can confirm this. Have sent shirtless pictures to girls im interacting with and they've really liked it and will give compliments on my arms especially when my veins pop.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:58 PM
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I understand that. Nagging is just frankly annoying and can produce alot of tension.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:56 PM
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Admittedly I cant. It's fairly uncommon for a fit woman to be interested in me. Although the times it has happened it's really addicting to get that level of affection. Id say one advantage of dating a heavier woman is that im pretty OK with things not progressing further and just moving on when the time happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:55 PM
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Yeah I think being intentionally rude to someone (especially with a condition) is definitely grounds for breaking up if you've asked them to stop and they keep repeating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:53 PM
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Well if im being honest its largely because its rare for me to do better. I don't think there's anything particularly shameful in admitting that. If I know someone is attracted to me and they happen to be overweight I usually try to look past it to have sex. I know this answer may sound "weak" or rude, but its the honest-to-heart answer to your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:51 PM
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Do you think its ever acceptable for your partner to mention about losing some weight? I have literally never asked this to anyone because im worried they will get super offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:42 PM
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Oddly enough I never really see an overweight man with a fit women unless they are both past age 35. Usually with younger people if there is a difference ts the woman whose overweight from my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:40 PM
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I mean I understand what you are saying for sure. It is a bit annoying to see fatter women dating fit men and the reverse not really being true and its because we humans have an instinctual "apples to apples" comparison we like to make. Even monkeys have it. I am a fairly fit man and I've had to date/have sex with women who are overweight who I know damn well if I had the same BMI they did id get rejected. It sucks, it really does, but at least I don't ever got to worry about pregnancy and the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:15 PM
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I have seen good ones from turkey for 5,000. Maybe be exception but.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:44 PM
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Thats why men need to be proactive and hop on finasteride to slow it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:37 PM
2

Guys largely look better with hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:03 PM
4

Glad to see it's becoming normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 02:38 PM
0

Would you encourage your child if male to get a hair transplant if he was a grown adult losing his hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 02:23 PM
1

Because it does not tell the whole story.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 02:14 PM
2

I think this goes to show that men can not ignore their hair or teeth. Every relationship needs attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:54 PM
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Thats honestly some the tragedies of male physical attractiveness is that things like hair, height, race or face DOES matter to a significant amount of women. I'm not advocating for black pill ideology, but looks are very important to women and some men just objectively are going to have an insane uphill climb.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:40 PM
5

I really wish more women were honest about liking hair on men and that the stigma around hair transplants goes away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:32 PM
3

To each their own, but if you want to stave off male pattern baldness you will need an anti-androgen like finasteride or dutasteride.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:31 PM
5

Very small percentage. From my use, am personally completely fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:19 PM
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I fundamentally disagree. You really won't know until you are on it. If you experience sides then get off of it. Post finasteride syndrome is such an insanely low number that with all probability you will be all right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:15 PM
3

While finasteride can have harmful side effects the majority of users report being fine. Even with a transplant the hairs not transplanted are still prone to miniaturization and would require finasteride.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:01 PM
1

Most men don't experience it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:39 PM
2

To be fair from what I've seen this depends. Younger women prefer hair significantly more than older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:36 PM
3

I think this is probably what most young women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:31 PM
1

Do you actually prefer men who are bald though?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:30 PM
1

Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:30 PM
1

Why do younger women prefer androgynous men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:08 PM
3

This comment actually made me laugh.
/r/seduction04/07/21 07:24 PM
1

Thats exactly why I insisted I wasn't mad and even laughed about the situation.
/r/seduction04/07/21 05:50 PM
2

Do you think I could have played it out differently that night? I think I acted appropriately by remaining calm, but idk.
/r/seduction04/07/21 05:32 PM
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It is not an issue of itself, but when you are a guy looking for a girl, you really need to have multiple avenues as possible: (OLD, clubs/bars, mutual friends)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:08 PM
3

Im not quite sure what this means.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:50 AM
1

I will say from my perspective as a man who is physically fit, but tends to attract alot of overweight women: You can take it and have a brief sexual encounter or FWB while holding out for someone you could conceivably be in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:16 PM
2

This is really accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:14 PM
6

Ugly women can find an intimate partner easier than men. This is pretty well established on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:14 PM
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I agree. Alot of men don't jump unless there's some perception of a "reward" for lack of better term
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:49 PM
1

I cant remember what site exactly, but the number I heard was around 8% more for women than men though this changes in early 30s for women for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:33 PM
1

What would be though best way of actually improving ones self in that time frame?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:32 PM
2

I think I agree with that. Hard to ignore
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:31 PM
2

Can you explain what you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:33 PM
2

Would you say you not having casual sex is a minority viewpoint held by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:03 PM
5

You are right and I forgot to include that but, but this is usually the smallest category of men. Logically it has to be since it requires two stipulations to be met.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:56 PM
1

Interesting! I never would have thought this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 09:17 AM
3

Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:27 PM
4

Genetic reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:18 PM
5

In my honest opinion I feel like men desire LTRs more than women because men understand how difficult it is to form intimacy and so grasp on when they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:36 PM
0

Im arguing purely hypothetical for men's behavior. Its not entirely clear how women would react
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:13 PM
2

Why is this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:53 PM
13

Honestly I think you may have a point. The Japanese situation may be the future in 10 years
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:49 PM
4

But would women choose to be forever single? (Average women that is)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 04:16 PM
1

I can see that. People (most) would prefer relationships than single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:25 PM
1

I think honestly the best bet for average men to get sex is through LTRs. Im willing to bet at the current market, most average men would be content with LTRs and give up the hopes of hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:24 PM
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How so? Women are people as well who have desires for sex and intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:20 PM
3

I think that's why it is contingent on men acting as a coherent unit and have standards, but yeah men will likely break due to thirst.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:17 PM
4

Not necessarily. There are plenty of good looking guys who will have sex with average or even below if opportunities present themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:16 PM
2

I don't understand either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:57 PM
6

Not necessarily happy, but happier? Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:10 PM
6

It could be a compounding issue. Like men who are unemployed are also less likely to be in a relationship which in turn makes them more depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:01 PM
2

Why are these men depressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:58 PM
1

So just from reading this article it says its not as severe as thought, but still millions more men than women. Am I missing something?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 03:26 PM
1

Where has it been debunked? I've heard there's more males than females.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 03:18 PM
1

That 215 is muscle yeah? How do I get bigger without getting fatter? I'm really struggling with this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:50 PM
5

Every intimate relationship needs that initial sexual attraction, but otherwise I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:00 PM
3

In your opinion, what percentage of men meet this? Is it just footballers?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:51 PM
2

So I saw that Jason momoa was said to have a dad bod after filming aquaman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:59 PM
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So I read somewhere the back and forth with height. So men generally speaking prefer shorter women while women prefer taller men. The issue is if you have a tall man mate with a short or average height woman, the problem is you hope the son grows up to be tall, but the daughter doesn't grow up to be too tall. Essentially its a genetic tug of war
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:56 PM
2

Ahh i see. Is it common to find men with this type? I notice this build alot in the gym I go to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:53 PM
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Why is 6'3 unrealistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:46 PM
2

Low body fat + muscles
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:00 PM
6

I've heard that alot with taller women. That, it can be harder finding a guy you are attracted to whose taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:46 AM
3

So as far as I can tell, by dad bod is literally just a bit higher body fat % but still maintaining strong upper body strength. Zac Efron was seen as the example to look to
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:29 AM
1

Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:30 PM
2

No. Its hard to explain through text, but I just find it remarkable is all. In a good way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:03 PM
1

Whats it about men though do you think is attractive? I think its really intriguing what you see that i don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:00 PM
0

Would you date a fat man?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:10 PM
0

Absolutely correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:42 AM
5

To be fair, this applies to men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 10:25 PM
2

I guess one thing im not sure I follow is how do conservative leaders in conservative states making access to abortion increasingly difficult follow the idea that men as a collective (in this case though, low status/unattractive men) should get used to sexlessness, loneliness and no intimate partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 11:19 AM
1

Do you see Roe v Wade getting overturned?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 10:54 AM
3

There really isn't any data to suggest that a growing body of men are less interested in sex compared to late 90s/early 2000s men and are happier being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 09:24 AM
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Please do not bother to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 12:48 AM
2

Im not sure. Thats why I ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 12:01 AM
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Thats an extremely low resolution view of the situation that even you know that's not the whole thing. Its about having someone love you, want you, being by your side. You know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 11:38 PM
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Men and women must live together in society. If there is a problem that is affecting a large minority of either gender I think its important to talk about. Just like I think its important to discuss why suicide attempts are higher for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 11:28 PM
5

There are more important things to life than sex, but id argue and id imagine most people would that it's pretty high up that list. Definitely top 5 for many if not top 3, but I digress. There seems to be data and correct me if im wrong that sex has many benefits for one's physical, psychological and emotional well being. Not even sex, but relationships in general
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 10:59 PM
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Correct. However, I am not convinced that a man in the 20th percentile of looks and status will date a woman whose also in the 20th percentile in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 10:53 PM
1

Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 04:06 PM
5

And? How are women any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:40 PM
2

But to answer your question: I don't think im wasting their time. Why? Because im trying to formulate friendships. Just because im not attracted to them doesn't mean I don't like them as people
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:38 PM
1

Pink pill? What do you mean? I'm familiar with red, blue and black, but not pink.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:37 PM
2

Why? Also people have multiple different friend groups. They probably wouldn't even know they existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:05 PM
1

Hmmm...well you didn't know he was interested in you. Id say if you consciously knew it be different
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:56 PM
0

Friendship perhaps? I personally like meeting people even if there's no attraction. I just get bothered when they like me back because it gets awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:43 PM
2

You see the issue for me is I have been in a situation where I literally could not get aroused. Nothing. It was so embarrassing that I just said it was nerves and not feeling well. Never spoke again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:34 PM
1

I know the EXACT feeling. Like when I get home from the date I think "ya know, I really liked talking to her. Maybe if I just get to know her more who knows?". However when I think about physically touching them I cant get aroused at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:27 PM
1

By optimism what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:12 PM
1

What do you mean "bluepill bullshit"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 01:05 PM
6

You are right. There isn't anything wrong with that. Most simply can't give up and for that I think there should just be kinder to themselves. They didn't screw up, but rather she just wasn't attracted. It is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:02 AM
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I think the problem i was encountering was making the assumption that if I just behaved a certain way, wore the right fitting clothes and worked out enough that I could get a woman's attention. I refused to believe for a long time the sheer obvious that if mutual attraction isn't there, it isn't there. Alot of men have trouble accepting this ive seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:57 AM
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