| Upvotes | Title | Category | Author | Subreddit | Date (UTC) |
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| 9 | An Open Response to Why No Blue Pillers Participate in this Sub; Or Why I'm No Longer Posting OC Here | Discussion | AMuseXD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 11:27 PM |
| 3 | On Safe Spaces, Trigger Warnings and Male Exclusivity | Discussion | AMuseXD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/15 07:03 PM |
| 2 | Common RP Arguments: One BP's Responses | Debate | AMuseXD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/16 12:36 AM |
| 0 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it. | CMV | AMuseXD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 12:02 AM |
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| 1 | How does your physical appearance, race, or gender influence how you traverse public spaces?Her name is Alberta, she lives in Vancouver... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/16 07:03 AM |
| 1 | Q4women: would you date a guy who doesn't have a driving license?lol all other factors constant I'm choosing the person I want to be stuck in a car with in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/16 07:07 AM |
| 0 | can the top dogs of trp be trusted? how much of a parallel is there between them and old school PUA snake oil salesmen?... to have its "congregation's" best interests at heart? JK it's red pill, man up and find out for yourself, amirite? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/16 06:51 AM |
| 2 | BPers, would it be fair to say you mostly lean left wing? What drove you in this political direction?The irony... you do realize how snarky it is to basically contribute "shoot homeless people" in order to solve socioeconomic problems, do you not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/16 10:43 PM |
| 4 | BPers, would it be fair to say you mostly lean left wing? What drove you in this political direction?No, going on the internet and advocating for shooting homeless people to solve socioeconomic problems is how "badasses" try to prove that they're better than everyone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/16 10:42 PM |
| 0 | Red Pill Men in LTRs - How do you feel about your SO?Thanks for the insight, it's definitely easy to get overworked when it comes to this kind of stuff. Part of me has to accept that these views aren't simply born in a vacuum and there's context that makes it legitimate to them, just as you or I might find the opposite to be true. But I also think that it's important to call people out on what they say, whether it be online or in person. Granted, in-person discourse would probably be much more subdued and civil, but for PPD... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/16 07:02 AM |
| 0 | Red Pill Men in LTRs - How do you feel about your SO?It's not awful, and technically doesn't prove me wrong :P | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/16 06:57 AM |
| 1 | Red Pill Men in LTRs - How do you feel about your SO?No, I see this as "this is how misogynists view women" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/16 06:55 AM |
| 3 | Red Pill Men in LTRs - How do you feel about your SO?Everyone is AWALT to various degrees. The entire concept is bogus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/16 06:55 AM |
| -1 | Red Pill Men in LTRs - How do you feel about your SO?You take this example way to far. No, you mentioned it as a concrete idea in a paragraph in the text response. It's exactly what you are/were getting at, regardless of your actual "intent". I'm not reading between the lines, or putting words in your mouth. This is what I and every other person reading your post will take away from it. Question for you: What is the role of your significant other? To have their own life, enjoy the time that we spend together, she supports me in my endeavors just a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/16 09:00 PM |
| 3 | Red Pill Men in LTRs - How do you feel about your SO?Read the rest of my post man, I spell it out nice and clear: we have the mental capacity to build skyscrapers and program computer games. Apes don't. We're not in the same league. We're so far removed from any "natural state" that your "call to nature" as an excuse for acting like an ape doesn't work on me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/16 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill Men in LTRs - How do you feel about your SO?Why is that the most important aspect of their relationship for you? That seems so narrow minded. It's not. I don't have the willpower/time to type out all of my thoughts on gender relations in every comment that I make, so I pick and choose based on the context. Intelligence is a part of what makes people... people regardless of sex/gender, but it's simply that this opinion that women even have IQs, nevermind a higher one than men, is such a radical departure from conventional RP thought. Do le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/16 08:48 PM |
| 3 | Red Pill Men in LTRs - How do you feel about your SO?Sigh... we have active consciousness, we reject living in nature and being hunter-gatherers for the benefits that "civilized society" and domestication of other animals brings us. We are well aware of our biology, and we are so far removed from every other living being on this planet that the "call to nature" argument simply holds no ground. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/16 08:42 PM |
| 0 | [Discussion] What is the actual prevalence of sexual harassment against women in the work place?Your logic is insane. Anything that is done to a woman can just as easily be done to a man. We're not different species. Of course men can be harassed just as much as a woman. The question prompts readers to give anecdotes/cases where male bosses hit on females that work under him (read the OP), and /u/belletaco did just that. OF COURSE IT CAN HAPPEN TO A MAN, THAT'S NOT THE POINT. IT'S VALIDATING THE STEREOTYPE AS BASED IN REALITY. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/16 08:38 PM |
| 0 | [Discussion] What is the actual prevalence of sexual harassment against women in the work place?You're disregarding her extremely relevant, well-made point with the mere idea that it hypothetically could happen by a female boss hitting on a male intern and that this is equally valid. Of course it is, but you didn't comment on this thread to gain insight into your own perspectives, now did you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/16 08:35 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] What is the actual prevalence of sexual harassment against women in the work place?Well when in male-dominated workplaces the jokes come at the expense of women (usually sexually), is this really that surprising...? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/16 08:26 PM |
| 7 | Red Pill Men in LTRs - How do you feel about your SO?And has very little to do with TRP. I'd love to see RP members say that their wives have more/comparable IQs to their own, or even that they excel at anything. If they did, I'd eat my shoe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/16 08:17 PM |
| 8 | Red Pill Men in LTRs - How do you feel about your SO?I don't get that animal example, isn't that playing into our hands? We see animals as something inferior, yet we love them, care for them and try to make their lives better, all a cat has to do is be there and bring joy to our life simply by being how they are. I find this idea abhorrent. It takes away the fundamental nature of humanity from women as human beings. I love my dog and care for it like nothing else in the world, but it's still just a dog. It's a product of my training (learning wher… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/16 08:12 PM |
| 2 | The success of Donald Trump - sign of an increasingly Redpill society?Does a bear shit in the woods? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/16 12:35 AM |
| 0 | The success of Donald Trump - sign of an increasingly Redpill society?I'm not responsible for other people's racism, or trump support, or this op. Agreed. I will laugh at his antics and the hurt feelings of PC fagarios though. Way to put yourself above political discourse. How's the air up there on your high horse? A little thin I'd imagine, at least based on your responses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/16 11:44 PM |
| 3 | The success of Donald Trump - sign of an increasingly Redpill society?Ummmm... Even if the underlying assumptions are dodgy, the math at least is in the ballpark. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/16 11:41 PM |
| 2 | The success of Donald Trump - sign of an increasingly Redpill society?Wow, even now you're blaming sjws for the racism of "normal people". Whatever happened to taking responsibility for your own actions? Self-autonomy? Y'know, core RP ideas? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/16 11:36 PM |
| 1 | The success of Donald Trump - sign of an increasingly Redpill society?Shouldn't it be worrisome that this post is currently 83% upvoted and a lot of people are basically agreeing with the idea of white supremacy hatred spewed by op? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/16 11:28 PM |
| 2 | The success of Donald Trump - sign of an increasingly Redpill society?shhhhhh with your logic shhhhhhh it's not the same shhhhhh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/16 11:24 PM |
| 5 | The success of Donald Trump - sign of an increasingly Redpill society?I like how you like very many RPers on this sub turn to these childish insults when presented with nothing but hard evidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/16 11:17 PM |
| 2 | The success of Donald Trump - sign of an increasingly Redpill society?I like how people commend him for being an amazing businessman who has the financial strengths to lead the country, when in fact he's a terrible businessman; he's gone bankrupt like what? 3 times? Got it all from his father (earned none of it). The only thing I can commend him for is pulling himself out of bankruptcy the amount of times that he has. Which is a pretty low bar to set. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/16 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Which gender do you genuinely believe is more oppressed in the west?Somehow I doubt your ability to "hold frame".. we all know how angry red pillers/mgtows get about everything.. That's why it's so fun to piss you guys off. The biggest irony is that "the anger phase" is literally built into RP theory xD too bad you're too dim-witted to get just how ironic that simple fact is in destroying your argument.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/16 11:36 PM |
| -3 | Treat woman like Queen's to keep them..........lol WTF?! Thank God for red pill.READ for entrainmenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ6FfGeIsbg | /r/MGTOW | 28/01/16 11:12 PM |
| 1 | Which gender do you genuinely believe is more oppressed in the west?Nah, this is fun for me. It's like playing with a small dog and watching them bark at you, trying to be all intimidating and bigger than they really are. It's cute, really :P | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/16 11:11 PM |
| -14 | Treat woman like Queen's to keep them..........lol WTF?! Thank God for red pill.READ for entrainmentMore abstract, made-up equations = mindless feel-good self-validation | /r/MGTOW | 28/01/16 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Which gender do you genuinely believe is more oppressed in the west?No... I'm saying that you're whining like a child. You're complaining about women, and then turning around and saying that children complain. What does that make you? edit: I'm not whining, I'm trying to get you to understand logic. Do you get the difference? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/16 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Which gender do you genuinely believe is more oppressed in the west?Oh please, everyone making posts/commenting here are complaining that women aren't how they want them to be. It's the exact same bitching that you say women do. You want women that don't "whine like children?" Maybe they want a man that doesn't whine like a child. Better yet, go to a country where you can buy a wife from her family. Maybe they offer warantees. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/16 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Which gender do you genuinely believe is more oppressed in the west?Am I right or am I right though? For someone telling women to stop complaining because they have it easy (compared to the rest of the world), how can you sit there and complain in the exact same manner? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/16 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Which gender do you genuinely believe is more oppressed in the west?And my way would be for retarded red pill/mgtows to shut up and stop whining about ask their failures in life.. Red pillers/mgtows aren't oppressed, they are just simply inferior edit: not all red pillers, just the holier-than-thou stuck-up pricks like you. I don't like to generalize if I can help it :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/16 10:03 PM |
| 1 | This sub keeps failing, here is whyI think this place is doing a great job of allowing a wide range of views to be expressed. Well if the sole purpose is to have ideas expressed, then this sub should be a link to the red pill sub and whatever sub the blue pill is associated with (satire aside). This is a debate/cmv sub and no one is (truly) debating/changing their views. The OP is the most accurate assessment of "debate" in this sub: it doesn't happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/16 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Which gender do you genuinely believe is more oppressed in the west?Funny. How many times do you complain about women on this subreddit? You don't think that it's extremely juvenile to complain about women when, comparatively, you have it hundreds of thousands of times easier to sleep with one (you can even pay) in this day and age than ever before? Maybe you're the child that's complaining the most in the hopes that you get your way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/16 09:30 PM |
| 2 | Which gender do you genuinely believe is more oppressed in the west?Classic RP argument in a nutshell: stop complaining because people have it worse out there than you. How many times does this argument need to be broken down before people finally understand that it's pure baloney? People in the world that have it worse than you is not an excuse/reason to trivialize very real issues in developed countries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/16 03:16 PM |
| 2 | Is TRP directed at straight, white, males from the Western hemisphere?What's that a reference to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/16 06:39 AM |
| 1 | Is TRP directed at straight, white, males from the Western hemisphere?No, but staying on topic and not using a joke to avoid the argument is something that apparently "only the anglosphere understands" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/16 06:37 AM |
| 0 | Is TRP directed at straight, white, males from the Western hemisphere?You're the one making claims; it's not my responsibility to make sure that what you're saying is true or not, it's yours. If I said that "90% of men are rapists", it's not your job to find those statistics, it's mine. When you write an academic paper, it's not the professor's job to fact-check your statistics, it's yours to include it. I don't understand how you can't grasp this concept. Do the research that you're making claims from, then we can discuss my research. In Southern Nigeria to my kn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/16 06:36 AM |
| 1 | Is TRP directed at straight, white, males from the Western hemisphere?You do understand how upvotes work, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/16 12:09 AM |
| 2 | Is TRP directed at straight, white, males from the Western hemisphere?Yay, congratulations to you for making even RPers ask if you're joking and ignoring the argument in order to pass it over with (what I can only assume is a pitiful attempt at) humour. Seriously, what to you is so funny about Australians not having electricity? Like it's not even racist or immature humour, which I could at least understand someone finding funny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/16 12:06 AM |
| 0 | Is TRP directed at straight, white, males from the Western hemisphere?to be honest I would rather leave race out of the conversation No, you can't do this because it's pivotal to your argument. This whole thread is based on racial differences and you mentioned them in your comment. Culturally speaking many African and Middle Eastern societies tend to have ideas of masculinity that are practiced and reinforced that tend to align with TRP thinking. Again, what are these ideas, and how are they practiced and reinforced in a way that aligns with TRP thinking? And how … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/16 12:01 AM |
| -1 | Is TRP directed at straight, white, males from the Western hemisphere?Do elaborate what you mean by african and middle eastern men being "familiar with many of the concepts of trp due to their different cultural norms regarding sex": what exactly are these different cultural norms? Additionally, why are asian men lumped in with "western" men (I assume you mean white men)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 11:38 PM |
| -1 | Is TRP directed at straight, white, males from the Western hemisphere?Mighty convenient, ain't it? Allows you to defend the easy parts while simultaneously avoiding real criticism because you ignore addressing the morally-dubious/reprehensible stuff. Nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Is TRP directed at straight, white, males from the Western hemisphere?Oh please, the commenter said that abortions were easier to get in Australia and you seriously made the argument over multiple comments that you denied this FACT because Australia didn't even have things like electricity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Is TRP directed at straight, white, males from the Western hemisphere?I don't have statistics on this, but I'm fairly certain that a low percentage of Asians prescribe to TRP because it has regular tendencies to be racist. Look at how it encourages men (you can be inclusive all you'd like, but let's be real: this advice was for white, cisgendered straight males) to find Asian women because they're "more submissive". There's even threads on a regular basis on this subreddit where RP men will ask "why is it not ok to have an Asian mail-order wife?" I'll go into an a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 11:27 PM |
| 2 | Is TRP directed at straight, white, males from the Western hemisphere?Originating groups do not necessarily line up exactly with target demographics. True, but this is identity politics. What do you think happens when a solely white, American, cisgender group of males get together and speak about women, people of colour, queer people; basically everyone but themselves? Of course their target demographics don't have to line up with the originators of the group itself, but are you seriously going to say that TRP is inclusive of the groups that I listed above? Say wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 11:14 PM |
| 3 | Is TRP directed at straight, white, males from the Western hemisphere?Correct me if I'm wrong here, but afaik its origins stem from white, cis-gendered American males reacting against second-wave feminism. Which makes its target demographic white, straight males from "the West"? Not a value judgment, but doesn't this kind of mean that it is directed at whites, if not explicitly then pretty blatantly implicitly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 08:35 PM |
| 3 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?You sound like someone who has an unfulfilled life outside of reddit so you go on the only forum that allows you to rip on a group of people deemed to be worth less to you in order to get a bit of a high. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 05:49 PM |
| 0 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?We're talking about rapists here... people who sexually assault people (in this hypothetical, women) WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 05:39 PM |
| 3 | [discussion] are you happy with your life?Did you read my comment? I have empathy for incels because they get shit on by a lot of pop culture and modern society. However, I don't pretend to think that wallowing in it and lashing out are the most effective actions in the long term for people like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/16 11:59 PM |
| 4 | [discussion] are you happy with your life?Hey, just want to let you know that you're a really perceptive dude and most of the other people commenting on your post are right: you've got a lot of self-awareness and insight that you're putting to use in the wrong places. It's nice to put it all on reddit and there's definitely a sense of community in this place where there's very little repercussion for expressing how you truly feel, but it's still a website and will leave you just as hollow when you finish as when you started. It's kinda … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/16 10:21 PM |
| 6 | [discussion] are you happy with your life?Just my 2 cents, but most ecstatic people I know (who are truly happy) aren't constantly concerned about bringing down their "friends'" relationships and belittling them when they don't really understand what's going on (let's be honest here, you're not in their relationships so how do you know everything that they might be going through. Also, affection can be shown in so many different ways, so there's that to keep in mind as well). If the only way you can be happy is by making fun of people t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/16 10:09 PM |
| 5 | [discussion] are you happy with your life?I have to side with you in the sense that incels get very little love from the mainstream. However, I can't bring myself to support RP because it takes extremely nuanced situations that lead to incel life and distills it down to a single, absolute truism: you're upset because of women. It's finger-pointing, and latches on to peoples' base instincts to place the blame on outside forces that they can't/have never controlled. It's like what Bernie Sanders says about Trump finger-pointing at Muslims… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/16 10:03 PM |
| 1 | [discussion] are you happy with your life?cough man slut cough ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/16 09:53 PM |
| 3 | Does TBP really not believe in the concept of a "Sexual Market Place"?The medical condition that occurs when reading something so truly awful, revealing so much about human nature, so disgusting in this day and age, that the idea alone makes you want to vomit. Basically, pretend RedPill lingo is this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/16 09:38 AM |
| 2 | Have you ever been shamed for your number of sexual partners? If so, how did it make you feel, and what did you do about it?mrw reading that exchange | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/16 09:30 AM |
| 5 | The First Law of FeminismWell you'll have to forgive me, I didn't get to the end of your comment. So it could have turned around from where I stopped, but I just couldn't take reading it anymore. It's absolutely fascinating to me how sexist and racist actual people can be towards others, especially given that they don't understand it in the first place. Dude, you're going to look back at this point in your life someday and realize that you had some real issues going on. If you don't, you'd better get used to being a soc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/16 09:25 AM |
| 4 | [CMV] Men are not, as RP asserts, the more romantic sex, who love idealistically and unconditionallyWhat even? I don't have a tumblr account. And is it so despicable that, as an Asian, I should let it slide when ignorant people try to pass off the statement that an entire country is a "beta loser factory"? Are you seriously going to reply to my comment without actually watching the film? If you spent one thousandth of the time it took you to type out your response to make a search in reddit, you'll see that everyone that has seen the film agrees that it defies conventional description (i.e. no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/16 09:10 AM |
| 6 | [CMV] Men are not, as RP asserts, the more romantic sex, who love idealistically and unconditionallyIdol culture is so successful in Japan because Japanese culture is a beta loser factory Funny enough (and not so subtle racism aside), at least Japan tries to address this. Ever watched the movie Mindgame? It's on Netflix, I highly recommend it. It talks about this "beta, entitled" mindset that so many young men (not just Japanese men, but entirely applicable to American youth as well) feel and has an important lesson when it comes to how to treat both yourself and others with respect. And befor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/16 11:13 PM |
| 5 | [CMV] Men are not, as RP asserts, the more romantic sex, who love idealistically and unconditionallylol that's ironic, coming from you xD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/16 11:11 PM |
| 2 | "men who love women, are loved by women"I'm just sayin' if you're gonna be a Stan then own it edit: why'd you go and remove those screenshots, man? "Don't participate if you can't handle replies" xD the irony, man. the irony. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/15 09:22 PM |
| 2 | "men who love women, are loved by women"Yo why you gotta follow me around to different threads, bro? Quit ridin' my dick | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/15 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Hypocrisy in RedPillYet salesmen sell far more cars than secretaries or mechanics. ... well it's not exactly in a secretary/mechanic's job description to sell cars, so I don't know where you're going with this. Sure it works, but you can't be surprised when people don't like you for doing it. You also can't be upset when customers come back a month later bitching at you with a shitty car that you sold them knowing that it was defective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/15 08:21 PM |
| 1 | "men who love women, are loved by women"No, because "other men" (non-naturals, using your terminology) don't know how to surround themselves with people whom they might actually get along with. They have lofty goals and even loftier conceptions of their own "SMV" that they look down on the people whom they would truly get along with in the hopes that they can "score" with women that the "naturals" get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/15 08:14 PM |
| 2 | "men who love women, are loved by women"... and the rest of the world is looking at TRP and scratching their collective heads wondering "how in the world has this group of people complicated relationships to this level?" Here's an idea: ditch SMV, dread game, whatever other technical games you like to play and just surround yourself with people that you enjoy being in the company with. That's essentially what it's saying, and as "feel-good waffle" as it is, so many people don't do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/15 08:12 PM |
| 1 | "men who love women, are loved by women"I wholeheartedly disagree. RPers and insecure people have conflated ideas of their "SMV" and what they are "worth", trying to surround themselves with really attractive people that they have absolutely nothing in common with and hoping that they can "fake it 'til they make it". Being comfortable with yourself (attractive or not-so-attractive) and surrounding yourself with like-minded individuals will net you the most success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/15 08:08 PM |
| 2 | Hypocrisy in RedPillFunny you mention that: not very many people like salesmen because of this (and the fact that you are consistently on guard so you don't get manipulated by them for their own, selfish gains) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/15 08:04 PM |
| 1 | What's worse?Haha still bitter about the sex scandal, huh? ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/15 08:02 PM |
| 6 | Why do Blue Pillers find the Red Pill to be manipulative?Just a dude on the Internet who gets what he wants out of male-female interaction with limited conflict. What am I supposed to do with this information? Am I supposed to see you as a role model in relationships? Because I think we've both established that we don't see eye-to-eye on this matter. Even the way you just phrased that screams "look at me, I get what I want without conflict or hassle! Do what /u/AMuseXD does and you have to actually put in effort!" Sigh. You need to deconstruct more. S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/15 08:51 PM |
| 5 | Why do Blue Pillers find the Red Pill to be manipulative?Who are you to tell me what is optimal for me as a person? Nice metaphor, but I don't see how being manipulative and lying because "that's how the world is" is considered a "source of nutrition" by your standards, while my efforts to care for those around me and treat them with respect is "junk food". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/15 08:41 PM |
| 4 | Why do Blue Pillers find the Red Pill to be manipulative?This reversed world you're describing out of sarcasm doesn't exist, as mentioned by /u/jacksambuck and /u/PemBayliss Sorry, I don't accept either of your two ambassadors/ECs/whatever title you want to give them as people who surpass my own knowledge/experiences in this world. I pave my own path. If this world DID exist, TRP wouldn't exist. If you actually fall in line with the world you're describing, which I don't think you do, then you're ignoring reality and only living in a Don Quixote fanta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/15 08:38 PM |
| 3 | Why do Blue Pillers find the Red Pill to be manipulative?No, because I realize that your/other RP conceptions of masculinity are rigid and are as follows: men hold frame men are sole providers/caretakers in a "family unit" men drink beer, scotch, lift weights, are into cars, etc. I reject all of these established, preconceived notions of masculinity in my own life, and as such embrace your and other RPers' need to react to my brand of living as "too much misplaced empathy" (which means absolutely nothing to me as an argument, btw. I don't know what pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/15 08:28 PM |
| 6 | Why do Blue Pillers find the Red Pill to be manipulative?Because working through them is exactly what I want. Call me any name in the book, I realize that my existence in this universe doesn't make me the center of it. I'd rather make compromises, be disappointed on occasion and feel more personally fulfilled living in cohesion with others than to reject everything that don't result in immediate gratification. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/15 08:16 PM |
| 10 | Why do Blue Pillers find the Red Pill to be manipulative?Sorry I have to clarify this, but I oftentimes forget which sub I'm on: I wanted to be in these relationships, and they were nowhere close to being "shitty partners". Sure we had/have differences, but for me at least, working through them honestly proved much more helpful than __ insert any RP strategy here __. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/15 07:15 PM |
| 2 | Why do Blue Pillers find the Red Pill to be manipulative?Yeah, we should all just be pacifists because "life ain't fair". So when your house gets broken in to and the police don't come and your insurance doesn't pull through, you're SOL and should "get the fuck over it" because "it's not inherently wrong" when people rob and murder for fun. You have a fucked-up sense of both human nature and masculinity if your response to all of the hardships that you might and will face in this lifetime is to "get the fuck over it". Honestly, I'm sorry that you don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/15 07:10 PM |
| 9 | Why do Blue Pillers find the Red Pill to be manipulative?The countless men, who undoubtedly surpass these manipulative women in terms of numbers, who manipulate women into marrying them so that they're provided with sex (synonymous with enthusiastic blowjobs to your average RPer), a loyal housewife/maid (also synonymous terms to TRP), child/children, everything they (the men) ever want in return for a sex-crazed marriage (for the man) while he may or may not ride Sally at his office aren't manipulative? I'd say men are MORE manipulative in nature than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/15 07:08 PM |
| 11 | Why do Blue Pillers find the Red Pill to be manipulative?All of the advice, if worded differently and in a different tone, would be agreed upon by normal people in the wild. Here's the problem, you can't separate tone and content as being irrelevant. I could either swear and hurl obscenities at a child for throwing rocks at passing cars or I could be calm and stern. Both might stop the behaviour, but in the former I would have to accept the protests from other people if I chose to act irrationally DESPITE my intentions. Worded differently, you might b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/15 06:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women get killed less because they don't "defend" themselvesno u | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/15 12:22 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Women get killed less because they don't "defend" themselvesYeah, if men are so stupid that they think it's a good idea to join gangs then they either a)deserve to die or b)should be placed under more supervision so that they won't join gangs. Because fuck trying to change the status quo, that's just the way things are! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/15 12:21 PM |
| 1 | Curious on what red pillers think about this post. Does this accurately represent your community?I love how an endorsed contributor to trp is so dense that he doesn't a)know what a state is, b)is so ethnocentric that he can't fathom people living outside of the US, and c)makes fun of Australia for not having electricity when they're clearly well-past that technical milestone. If you're going to make fun of a country, at least do so in a way that's accurate to them. Making arbitrary insults about non-sequiters is not funny. It's pitiful that you can't even be funny when you're trying to be m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/15 09:03 AM |
| 8 | Curious on what red pillers think about this post. Does this accurately represent your community?I don't see how this defends the original post... You're still making a huge assumption about women, namely that they are "willing to go nuclear and burn your whole life". If that is meant to be taken literally, you'd might as well use this quote instead of the one in the op. Where is the crucial context behind the "they are willing to go nuclear" comment? You're using an assumption to back up an assumption here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/15 08:58 AM |
| 3 | What do you think is causing the Herbivore Men phenomenon in Japan? How can it be fixed?Please stop reading into comments to make them about you and your own narrow viewpoints. wtknight was making a point that in popular culture/porn in Japan, women are basically universally submissive, tease-y caricatures with very little actual character... because they're created by Japanese males catering to a work-intensive male population disinterested in pursuing "real" relationships with women. Hence they don't reflect the realities of relationships, and people can't adapt. As to your fat a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/15 08:51 AM |
| 2 | On Safe Spaces, Trigger Warnings and Male ExclusivityI have mixed feelings about this. I am willing to concede that trigger warnings can be used in a way that doesn't help survivors overcome the trauma that they experience. But at the same time, in public spaces it can be important to make sure that people are sensitive about the subject matter so they're not going to be saying things like "I think that depressed people should all be institutionalized" when they haven't experienced it or are conscious of the magnitude of what they're saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/15 07:33 PM |
| 2 | On Safe Spaces, Trigger Warnings and Male ExclusivityRight, well then we also reserve the right to call you an asshole and downvoting you to hell for spoiling a movie (in theory). You're well within your rights to not give a shit about others because you don't understand (ignorance) and don't care to try, but you have to understand that people who have lived through these experiences will resent you for it. Also, I don't believe for a second that you haven't at least seen a tv show or movie that has a rape in it. 99% of the time the rape survivor … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/15 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Redpill: How do you have TIME to.manipulate women and people?What kind of proof would you need? I'm not exactly going to post a video with both of us in it like GLO does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Redpill: How do you have TIME to.manipulate women and people?I'm actually in a relationship :) So no, not in this case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 04:08 AM |
| 2 | Redpill: How do you have TIME to.manipulate women and people?Lol the majority don't have relationships and are on reddit, probably on PPD most of their free time (myself kinda included here). But a lot of people here are dedicating hours of their lives to this. So if you ask me, the majority of people here aren't in a relationship and just enjoy theorizing/complaining/what have you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 01:35 AM |
| 2 | What's the point in staying at home as a married woman if you don't have young kids?What's a SIMP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 01:29 AM |
| 1 | CMV: SMV is relative and therefore generally useless as a metricExactly. And the pattern applies pretty much universally to the TRP demographic: 15-25yo cis, white, men with "traditional" relationship values. Which is why it has so much support here and no where else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 01:22 AM |
| 1 | CMV: SMV is relative and therefore generally useless as a metricMost movie reviews and restaurant reviews are pretty stupid too. Think about how much personal preference goes into them. I personally don't think that Blade Runner was a great movie. I can admit that its aesthetic was vital in popularizing the science-fiction genre as we know it so it holds cultural significance, but as a movie standing on its own? Not as flawless as everyone makes it out to be. Still, it holds a +90% like rate on rotton tomatoes. I'm also not the only one who thinks this. Rest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 01:18 AM |
| 2 | CMV: SMV is relative and therefore generally useless as a metricI think that if we took reddit as it currently exists, it's easy to see that most people on this sub in particular are white, cis males probably aged 15-25 or somewhere within that range. Most identify as pretty traditional, so they're going for a very similar aesthetic when it comes to women; so in that sense it works for TRP because most of them are very similar. Applying it to the rest of the world? Not so accurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 01:09 AM |
| 2 | CMV: SMV is relative and therefore generally useless as a metricYOUR OPINION IS INVALID AND YOU SUCK AS A HUMAN BEING... wow, I actually can't believe that I agree with this. Hit the nail on the head for me, at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 01:06 AM |
| 1 | What's the point in staying at home as a married woman if you don't have young kids?Well thankfully (for both of you) you're not in that relationship so it really is none of your business, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 01:00 AM |
| 0 | Does Casual Sex Make People Happy?How so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/15 12:22 AM |
| 3 | Does Casual Sex Make People Happy?I'm sure if we all completed an honest survey for age, education levels, race, and other factors it would really make sense how people can have this kind of "logic" when criticizing college-goers for being "inexperienced" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/15 12:22 AM |
| 1 | Does Casual Sex Make People Happy?Which thread? Said by who? Why is it so freaking difficult to get a source or context around here??? "original comment from another thread" just doesn't cut it -_____- | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/15 12:14 AM |
| 3 | Does Casual Sex Make People Happy?Is that a book? I tried google searching it but got business strategy books instead... anyways, that quote has little correlation with your claim that "casual sex is empowering". It suggests the benefits of exploring dating different partners as good life experience, but it doesn't say anything about how casual sex is empowering to women. Also, a lot of feminists would probably have problems with this quote in particular. Source? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/15 12:12 AM |
| 3 | Does Casual Sex Make People Happy?Sorry, I'm not in tune with regular posters/contributors to this sub that your claim that /u/iforgotmybucket being a spokesperson for all of feminism kinda doesn't mean anything to me. Again, make concrete references. From feminist sources. Telling women that "casual sex is empowering" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/15 12:05 AM |
| 6 | Does Casual Sex Make People Happy?Care to make reference to where you're getting this idea? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/15 06:02 PM |
| 6 | Does Casual Sex Make People Happy?Love the content of your original reply post, but care to source that quote? Putting it in quotation marks doesn't automatically make it infallable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/15 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Telegraph article talks about hypergamy. Women are substantially more picky than men in 20 different areas and more sexually selective, a recent university study of 5,500 singletons from around the world finds.And where does this "something is better one floor up" train end? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/15 03:57 AM |
| 9 | Telegraph article talks about hypergamy. Women are substantially more picky than men in 20 different areas and more sexually selective, a recent university study of 5,500 singletons from around the world finds.Wait, is this supposed to prove a point or something? Because I can see the exact same joke except where the genders are reversed and it makes men look equally-absurd in their expectations of women.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/15 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Local feminist says "you are either for all women getting abortions without conditions or you're a prick." 80 Likes on my Facebook, how does PPD respond?http://i.imgur.com/Pi4aoKR.jpg | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/15 06:48 AM |
| 4 | The "half night stand" is becoming a common occurrence for younger ladies: Does this confirm the TRP compared to BP?mhmmmm, shit's the bee's knees. Wait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/15 06:02 AM |
| 0 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?So am I lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 03:32 AM |
| 5 | GayLubeOil Girlfriend Video Interview!Ugh nice cop-out. Too bad no one else is calling you on your bs so they believe it and create threads to affirm what they believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 03:12 AM |
| 3 | GayLubeOil Girlfriend Video Interview!Sorry, I don't think you heard me correctly: Where does anyone dismiss his gf "BECAUSE WOMEN'S OPINIONS DON'T COUNT"? Don't give me any shit about them making fun of her, because your post says (collective) WOMEN'S OPINIONS DON'T COUNT. Because that's what you said BP was doing and I don't see it. Are you going to admit that you just said that because it's what you want to believe, or are you going to prove me wrong? I'm holding you to what you said. Prove me wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 03:03 AM |
| 6 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?Thanks for bringing some sanity to this thread. I feel like reading through RP comments actually subconsciously tells me that 100% of rape cases are false accusations and that consent doesn't even matter (especially when married...) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 03:00 AM |
| 6 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?It's ok. I was in an argument with an RPer earlier on where he thought that if we allow people to identify how they want (opposed trans people and not imposing gender roles on children like boys getting trucks and girls getting barbies, etc.), the world would fall apart and humans would go extinct because men wouldn't have sex with women and have children if we don't tell kids that's how the world works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 02:59 AM |
| 0 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?This is simplifying the case so ridiculously | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 02:53 AM |
| 5 | GayLubeOil Girlfriend Video Interview!I don't know why this is so difficult for them to understand... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 02:48 AM |
| 10 | GayLubeOil Girlfriend Video Interview!The BP position is that people like you assert yourselves on others without considering the possibility that there is a whole spectrum of relationships that don't confine themselves to the constraints that TRP has. Not knocking it or "jerking off into space and eating my creamy sauce" (your words, not mine), but /u/mstpp8 gave a very clear, non-aggressive and legitimate point of view and you're choosing to attack her personally due to these differences in beliefs. Excuse me if you can't understa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 02:47 AM |
| 7 | GayLubeOil Girlfriend Video Interview!That site/app is horrible for video playback | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 02:42 AM |
| 2 | GayLubeOil Girlfriend Video Interview!https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/3ql7sc/glo_with_his_girlfriend/ Where does anyone dismiss his gf "because women's opinions don't count"? Because I certainly don't see it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 02:41 AM |
| 2 | GayLubeOil Girlfriend Video Interview!It's not even the best of him. She doesn't seem to have a single original thought on the subject matter, just repeating what GLO wants her to talk about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 02:36 AM |
| 7 | Why do so many guys claim to be RP and then perform cunnilingus?"I won't believe your lies" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 02:15 AM |
| 28 | GayLubeOil Girlfriend Video Interview!I don't understand why you decided to post this. All this video is is you asking leading questions, to which your gf seems to just be repeating what you ask her as an answer (i.e. "talk to them about how we work out" "well we go to the gym and squat" "tell them how you wouldn't go out with a dude who squats less than you" "I wouldn't go out with a dude that squats less than me") You prompt her to talk about a topic and she talks about it. Honestly, it reminds me of how my uncle and aunt need to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 02:02 AM |
| 3 | AMA Day: I'm transgender.No it's not, but again: you're projecting your greatest fears in places where they don't exist. How can you be so deadset on a single outcome in the world when you didn't even know what the difference between transgender and transsexual was coming into this thread? I'm not making a personal attack here, but you've gotta really look into this stuff before making definite conclusions as to how things work. The majority of children will still identify as their gender at birth and people will contin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 07:51 PM |
| 1 | AMA Day: I'm transgender.To the end that women would be seen as submissive and needing to be saved by men and not having their own lives (look at how old Disney movies subverted fairy tales to show princesses always being saved. We have a lot of female-lead movies now, is the world or "our" society falling apart because we don't know what role(s) women occupy in the world now?) For the purpose of saying "this is your place, don't question it and accept it as canon". I don't think we're worse off if we abolish gender rol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 07:47 PM |
| 1 | AMA Day: I'm transgender.They exist because we created them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 07:42 PM |
| 3 | AMA Day: I'm transgender.You know what you sound like? Religious fundamentalists. You don't trust humans to figure shit out and not be dicks to each other without having a codified structure telling them that this is how the world works and this is your place in it. Sure, they tell you to love thy neighbour and don't murder each other but you still celebrate a holiday stemming from a polytheistic paganistic ritual where men would have copious amounts of sex with each other while lighting a tree on fire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 07:41 PM |
| 1 | AMA Day: I'm transgender.Again, I think you're seeing monsters where none even exist. How archaic do you want to go here? Should all women wear corsets? Should they be housewives and cook for their husbands, not be able to vote because otherwise everyone will become "confused, disheartened individuals"? You're making pretty huge claims with little evidence or nuance to back it up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 07:37 PM |
| 3 | AMA Day: I'm transgender.If we live in a completely androgynous society Which we don't, and will 99.9999999999999% never exist (if it does, you can quote me on this). If we accepted all trans people today, would you stop being cisgender and heterosexual? I wouldn't. I'd still be attracted to women. And the majority of people wouldn't either, because that's just how we are, regardless of what society tells us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 07:32 PM |
| 1 | AMA Day: I'm transgender.Really? If we don't give barbies to little girls and toy trucks to little boys society would fall? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 07:28 PM |
| 3 | AMA Day: I'm transgender.If we "let" genderqueer people do their own thing without recourse, it will not lead to the end of humanity. Making a mountain out of a molehill much? Cisgender heterosexual people will still exist as the majority, and the people who don't identify as their sex, well they're probably not going to be interested in you anyways. If anything is going to make us go extinct, allowing people to identify how they feel certainly won't be one of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 07:27 PM |
| 2 | AMA Day: I'm transgender.in my opinion Well there you are. Are you telling someone who's extremely aware of how their sexuality/gender identity functions, has probably researched it extensively, is living it, and telling you that it's their "map" not pointing in the right direction, that all transgendered people that you've met have an atypical upbringing is a more complete argument against becoming transgender? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 07:18 PM |
| 2 | AMA Day: I'm transgender.You realize that you're still asserting that you understand the root causes of wanting a sex change/"becoming" a lesbian and projecting your views onto the lived experiences of millions of people, right? Nothing about your post is even remotely scientific, and you're trying to say that abuse is the leading cause without a)actually knowing the people, b)not considering that there are other factors involved besides sexual assault (which I don't even believe is relevant), c)their trauma is perhaps … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 07:06 PM |
| 2 | AMA Day: I'm transgender.They never identified with the "I" they were born as in the first place. Hence, the change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 07:00 PM |
| 1 | I support feminism. AMA.don't be fat So it's ok for tv shows to have an fat dude with an attractive woman, but not a fat woman with an attractive dude. no tattoos So when a man gets a tattoo it's cool. It's a display of masculinity or whatever, huh? So why is a woman not allowed to get a tattoo? You seriously need control over the autonomy of someone else's body in order to feel secure in a relationship? ear lobe piercings I don't know if you're trying to say that they should/should not have ear lobe piercings... Eithe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 06:49 PM |
| 1 | I support feminism. AMA.back page of Reddit I didn't realize a sub with 55000 subscribers was considered "back page". Since you want to be difficult and get semantic over these things, here's a new link: 3,971,228 subscribers to /r/twoxchromosomes talking about sex trafficking Can we move on now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Why do you fear equal relationships so much?the most popular and influential feminist magazine in my country It can't be that hard to link to this magazine, can it? (I read it when I was in a masochistic mood) Wow, you're so brave -___- we have some feminists in here who advocate an Animal Farm-style interpretation of the concept of equality We have some MRAs/TRPers who advocate for the status quo in the Animal Farm story. Feminists see these people as the pigs in the story - seemingly for equality and whatnot, but ending up in positions … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 06:30 PM |
| -1 | I support feminism. AMA.Yes, you do need to link to these statistics. How do I know they're not from biased MRA websites with little actual unbiased research being put into acquiring the data? Of course it would be Canada, the feminist paradise. So given that Canada is, as you put it, a "feminist paradise", isn't it kind of worrying how skewed the statistics are in terms of women being the victims substantially more than the men? If I were to follow your argument (which is a moot point by the way - you calling a countr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 07:46 AM |
| -1 | I support feminism. AMA.Are you sure that YOU, my feminist friend, are not the white guy in your analogy? First things first, nope! Mostly because I'm supporting the black people in this hypothetical. Secondly, it's kind of impossible for me to be that white guy, because I'm asian ;) That being said, you certainly listed a lot of things without giving sources or number to back them up. I know you were being sarcastic, but I digress. This link has a ton of really interesting statistics which apply to many of your argume… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 06:12 AM |
| 0 | I support feminism. AMA.... But feminists don't advocate these points. If you saw any legitimate large-follower feminist websites, they all exclusively criticized Harper's campaign against Muslim women. However many feminists do support removing legal protections for accused rapists and have successfully passed bills (primarily aimed at colleges since they blatantly violate the constitution and would be shot down in real courts) that push such beliefs on real people. There's different ways at looking at different piece… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 05:44 AM |
| -1 | I support feminism. AMA.Really now? So the original facebook (or whatever it was called at the time) wasn't a group of men rating women based on their looks? Please think about the absurdity of your claims before passing them off as gospel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 05:31 AM |
| -1 | I support feminism. AMA.No, in this circumstance MRM would be white people complaining that despite black peoples' struggles, they still have it worse in society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 05:27 AM |
| 2 | I support feminism. AMA.What is with your obsession with sex trafficking? Feminists deal with it all the time, but if you just take feminism to be what you see on the front page of reddit of course you're going to end up with a shallow viewpoint on the whole movement. https://www.reddit.com/r/Feminism/search?q=trafficking&restrict_sr=on Tell me more about how "modern feminists" never talk about sex trafficking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 09:14 PM |
| -2 | I support feminism. AMA.I have no respect for modern feminism and I can't see why anyone else would. Well that's where we fundamentally disagree. I don't think I can do much to convince you otherwise and I'm certainly not budging much on my position, so this is probably pointless to continue. That being said, despite the fact that I'm deeply and utterly opposed to TRP, I at least have sympathy for men and can acknowledge that many men go through a lot of shit in terms of gender relations. However, feminism has addresse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 09:09 PM |
| 3 | I support feminism. AMA.Quick google search: http://www.canadianwomen.org/facts-about-sex-trafficking-in-canada http://www.feminist.org/global/humantrafficking.html http://www.alternet.org/story/98645/the_strange_relationship_between_feminism_and_sex_work You're seriously going to tell me that feminists don't address sex trafficking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 09:00 PM |
| -1 | I support feminism. AMA.How about asking questions that assume respect for the opponent's positions and tries to achieve understanding through reflection rather than provocation? The way the question is posed is like watching political debates where they all yell "Do you hate America??" at each other all day. Sure, it's a legitimate question but no one with any sense tries to pass this off as actual debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Why do you fear equal relationships so much?Haven't you heard? There's now oreo-flavoured oreos. Which means black&white/gray filling. Boom, QED | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 08:51 PM |
| 0 | Q4RP: Why do you fear equal relationships so much?A feminist for example who sincerely believes that women always got the short end of the stick throughout history and who would rather chew her legs off than meeting her partner halfway, leaving compromising to him - do you really think such a person would describe the power dynamic in her relationship lopsided in her favor, or rather tout is as exemplary and equal? Since you posed this as a pretty leading question... no? Neither would most mainstream feminists in relationships who don't go to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Why do you fear equal relationships so much?Can we please stop with the personal anecdotes (both sides)? I mean they make for great stories (who doesn't love humblebragging about getting hit on?) but if any of you seriously want to project your own experiences to the lives of hundreds of millions of other people, please stop trying to sound like what you're saying is more than exactly that... personal experience. Because I continually need to post this on this sub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvD9TawMqCY | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Why do you fear equal relationships so much?Because... wait for it... not all women are feminists! Your experiences are, as you put it, dealing with women "who fit the idea", but don't actually "self-describe" as feminists. You're trying to project your interactions with the non-identifying "feminists" in your life to all women of all ethnicities/age/sexual orientation etc. as one of the women in your case, who has probably looked at gender relations less than you or I. It is what it is. Not every woman alive is a feminist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 08:38 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP: Why do you fear equal relationships so much?lol looking at Forbes for feminist advice xD To make it 100% clear, I know absolutely 0 feminists who read Forbes for any advice whatsoever (and I go to a liberal university). It's like if I tried to say Roosh is the spokesperson for all MRAs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 08:34 PM |
| -1 | I support feminism. AMA.How do you feel about men ruining women's lives and careers for a sweet sweet blowjob paycheck? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 08:22 PM |
| 0 | I support feminism. AMA.Why are MRA/RP men so ugly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 08:19 PM |
| 1 | I support feminism. AMA.Did you actually have a question in this "Ask Me Anything" thread, or did you come in here for the sole purpose of pushing your own beliefs on other people without considering opposing viewpoints? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 08:19 PM |
| 0 | I support feminism. AMA.Read up on Malcom X's speech "The Ballot or the Bullet". I know it's not a direct answer to why feminists are so "bitchy" (I'm ignoring the presumptuous connotations of your comment), but being part of an oppressed group historically will push you to resort to anger when calm negotiation hasn't gotten you anywhere. Something people in privileged positions can't/won't understand until they actually experience it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 08:08 PM |
| -2 | I support feminism. AMA.No... You don't think they oppose it because you haven't taken more than 20 seconds to look into what feminism actually entails. Now this is going to come as a shock to many of you, but... wait for it... r/tumblrinaction is not feminism! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 08:05 PM |
| 3 | I support feminism. AMA.Well there's a leading question if I ever saw one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 08:04 PM |
| 2 | I support feminism. AMA.He was talking about one particular issue when it comes to feminism. Of course the first thing to be brought up will be western society's unfair standards for (both, I might add) genders. Sex trafficking is equally, if not more important, to most feminists. Just because he doesn't address an issue that you see as important doesn't mean that he's the sole spokesperson for feminism and that he's against everything that he doesn't address... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 07:59 PM |
| 2 | I support feminism. AMA.This is but one issue: women are held to pretty high standards of beauty compared to men. I know that men are held to similar standards, but it's pretty clear that you can have a "conventionally-attractive" female lead paired with a "less-attractive" male lead in a movie, whereas the inverse rarely occurs. Now that I think about it, it makes sense that so many guys "date up", so to speak, because that's the norm in most consumer culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 07:55 PM |
| 0 | I support feminism. AMA.ITT: leading questions out the wazoo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 07:50 PM |
| 12 | Do BP people understand what analogies are?No, I understand perfectly what analogies are. I'm struggling to understand how you can even begin to correlate online-reported scores on a 15-question segment of a test as evidence for any conclusive findings concerning analogy understanding. If you had an issue with the way an RP idea was interpreted, share it in your post and let us respond to it. Don't go around under the facade of "science" in an attempt to appear intellectually superior to other people, because this post fails at that spec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 09:01 PM |
| 13 | Do BP people understand what analogies are?Sigh... Analogy: "a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based: the analogy between the heart and a pump." It's an analogy made MANY TIMES by many RPers that claim women are comparable in quality/function to: plates children animals Under the DEFINITION of what an analogy is, it's fair to say that people understand where you're trying to draw the comparison, and choose to disagree with it based on nothing else than a difference of opinion concerning the pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 08:54 PM |
| 5 | Do BP people understand what analogies are?(I agree, btw) lol this "test" and entire thread is a shitshow xD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 08:40 PM |
| 10 | Do BP people understand what analogies are?the miller analogies is an entrance exam for graduate school, along with the GRE I think you give them too much credit. Taken in a vacuum, this analogies test is much more a vocabulary and trivia test. I see no correlation between results on this test and understanding analogies, especially from TRP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 08:36 PM |
| 13 | Do BP people understand what analogies are?You know what your problem is? You want to have your cake and eat it too; you and all of the other upset RPers here. Freedom of speech and opinion =/= freedom from consequences. Everyone understands the analogy that RPers use when it comes to comparing women to plates. It's not exactly the most obscure concept to grasp, don't give yourselves too much credit for being clever with your wordplay. I'm just sick of Rpers acting surprised when that leaves an unsavoury taste in most non-RPers mouths. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 08:31 PM |
| 10 | Do BP people understand what analogies are?This post is shit. What exactly was the point of this? To circlejerk about how smart you are when it comes to relating obscure concepts and a wide vocabulary? I'm actually really confused by this... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 08:25 PM |
| 3 | Do BP people understand what analogies are?YOU WILL TAKE YOUR 12 AND YOU WILL ENJOY IT. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Can the Blue Pill consider itself the dominant ideology given the massive disparity in subscribers compared to TRP?And neither of these people exist in the capacity which you would like... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/15 06:43 AM |
| 2 | Do men feel insecure about penis size because of women or because of themselves?Shit man, I need pics of that nohomo edit: no really show me pics of that dick | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/15 05:05 AM |
| 4 | Do men feel insecure about penis size because of women or because of themselves?lol me too! I was totally having the sex with a real life woman and she was all like "wow your cock is so big" and orgasmed like 12 times because my penis was so good at the sex. Did I mention that I had sex and my penis is big? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/15 05:01 AM |
| 2 | Challenge my view: All hobbies are not similarly attractiveI don't think that's fair. Going on nature walks with someone knowledgeable about bird species is pretty damn cool, from personal experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/15 04:51 AM |
| -1 | CMV: White privilege is a real thing (Video Discussion)No, you have a fundamentally flawed understanding of what "SJW-ism" (which is a term coined by TRP, I might add) is. Besides the fact that SJW is a term made by anti-feminists (NOT feminists), the difference is that feminism calls for EQUITY vs. EQUALITY (which is what you think feminism calls for). Simply put, it's the image near the end of this article. The problem with your argument is that you're looking at the entire complex system in a very narrow perspective that blames black people for a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/15 05:13 AM |
| 0 | CMV: White privilege is a real thing (Video Discussion)OK Also, I'm pretty sure your post is in violation of rule 1 of the sub. Also, it's just flat-out racist. Which is not allowed on this sub, I'm pretty sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/15 06:15 AM |
| 0 | CMV: White privilege is a real thing (Video Discussion)Because regardless of white privilege, America is still a first world country. Billions of people in the world would trade places with your average black guy (as long as he's not in jail). I absolutely hate this "reasoning" that I see all the time on this sub. You can't just say your argument is "PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD HAVE IT WORSE THAN YOU SO STOP COMPLAINING" because the way I see it, you all need to stop complaining about men being oppressed by feminism and all of the (frankly) nonsensical … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/15 06:13 AM |
| -1 | Would you join a fitness group if it had outspokenly racist members, even among group leaders, and none of the other members spoke up? Would you defend them to other people?How can you quote NWA and then go around saying that it's ok to throw around the n word? You realize that they would agree with my point on institutionalized racism, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/15 07:06 AM |
| -2 | Would you join a fitness group if it had outspokenly racist members, even among group leaders, and none of the other members spoke up? Would you defend them to other people?So your entire argument in response to mine is that "its fucking stupid." Nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/15 06:59 AM |
| 8 | If no one cares about me being made involuntarily celibate, why should I care when women are involuntarily made to have sex?... no, it's only "not even really debatable" because you don't want it to be debatable. I didn't even go to another page, all I did was scroll down to the "Criticism" section, and lo and behold the position of sex in the hierarchy is highly criticized as being inaccurate at best. At least read the article before linking to it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs#Criticism | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/15 06:51 AM |
| 1 | Would you join a fitness group if it had outspokenly racist members, even among group leaders, and none of the other members spoke up? Would you defend them to other people?Correction: why is it still accepted by most people that you shouldn't use the n word? I really don't think that black people are being SJWs or being "too politically correct" when they get upset over the fact that it's used by white people who want to sound cool in front of all of their other white friends. I say whatever I want as long as long as I can get away with it Ooh, we've got a real badass over here. Cause who the fuck cares about some idiots feelings? If someone calls me a guido goomb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/15 06:46 AM |
| 1 | Would you join a fitness group if it had outspokenly racist members, even among group leaders, and none of the other members spoke up? Would you defend them to other people?I'd say "yeah, me neither they are generally degenerate whores who would make poor long term relationship prospects." No, this is from the reply to you below - /u/MoneyOverSluts in response to you asking him what he would feel about dating a woman that's "been with a nigger" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/15 06:25 AM |
| 1 | Would you join a fitness group if it had outspokenly racist members, even among group leaders, and none of the other members spoke up? Would you defend them to other people?Really, now? So why don't people use the word nigger? Are we all so scared of SJWs who are telling us it's not ok to call Chinese people chinks? Or calling gay people faggots? Or women cunts? AGAIN, why are we so obsessed with freedom to say words when we're not affected by the history that goes along with it? We don't live in a society formed in a vacuum, so why do you keep pretending that we do? Should we stop having remembrance day because fuck soldiers and Jews, WWI and WWII were a century a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/15 06:21 AM |
| 0 | Would you join a fitness group if it had outspokenly racist members, even among group leaders, and none of the other members spoke up? Would you defend them to other people?OK, maybe that was an exaggeration. Personally, I'm not too familiar with his standup work but from what I've seen on reddit at least, he's not exactly a conservative comedian. Do you have any response to what I've said besides pedantic nit-picking? edit: JK, after reading your response to /u/coratoad, it appears as though you're extremely outspoken as a racist and don't bother responding because I won't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/15 06:14 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Most BPer's are sexually reserved and do not desire casual sex, therefore have a hard time sympathizing with RP.I don't know, there does seem to be a fixation by BPers on accusing us all of putting too much emphasis on sex, or being unable to form true connections with women. Often at the slightest implication of casual sex or even just wanting sex at all. If you ask me, I think a large number of RPers put "too much emphasis on sex" and can't form "true connections with women" Certainly seems to me that many RPers on this sub have this problem, and I just found this on the front page. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/15 06:10 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Most BPer's are sexually reserved and do not desire casual sex, therefore have a hard time sympathizing with RP.a.k.a. I can use AWALT when it suits my argument, and deny AWALT when it doesn't suit my argument... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/15 06:07 AM |
| 2 | Would you join a fitness group if it had outspokenly racist members, even among group leaders, and none of the other members spoke up? Would you defend them to other people?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi8zeaxtB-w Maybe we're oversensitive, but do most people that throw the word "faggot" around understand the history of the word and its context? I don't think so. Personally, I think that respecting peoples' aversion to words is more important than my uninhibited freedom to toss them around. Why? Not because I'm a politically-correct wet noodle, but because I don't associate as a member of the gay community so I don't fully understand the pain associated with bei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/15 06:00 AM |
| 14 | If no one cares about me being made involuntarily celibate, why should I care when women are involuntarily made to have sex?Where are you getting the idea that sex is both a) a "basic need", and b) a "fundamental right"? Because last time I checked, no one owes sex to anybody else, because consent. I understand that you're upset over what seems like insurmountable odds stacked against you in the dating pool, but you're approaching the entire situation from the wrong angle. Rape victims have it worse than incels, and I don't even want to hear any arguments that you might have to the contrary. 99% of humans (regardless… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/15 05:51 AM |
| 1 | CMV: r/TheRedPill has become ridiculously extremelolnope. At least I can come out of r/aww in a good mood and smiling. As in, sometimes there's stupid stuff that doesn't make me smile, but at least there's the chance that I will come out of the subreddit happer than I went into it. I wish I could say the same thing after browsing TRP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/15 07:14 AM |
| 3 | TBP, how do you explain the multiple women on Reddit who admit to wanting a dominant Alpha male? Are they ALL damaged, and insecure, you think?A 5+ long comment chain praising a dude's physical description... If this isn't a sign that TRP should just all be gay with each other, I dunno what is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/15 08:21 AM |
| 3 | Any history-making women?... so you choose to dismiss the wartime heroes because a politician has a quote about how women are, and you're choosing to see that as a representation of all women? I can't even... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 08:16 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Redpillers are complete and utter mother fucking subhuman scum 99.9% of the time"You are not you, you are now us. We are the only ones that you can trust." cough CULT cough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 08:05 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Redpillers are complete and utter mother fucking subhuman scum 99.9% of the timeNaw man, those kind of people aren't real RPers, just poseurs! You don't understand TRP... fuckin' AWALT's a guideline, not a rule! It works when I want it to, and doesn't apply when I don't want it to! What? That's intellectually dishonest, you say? But my man-feels! Real RPers are nothing like this! Stop trying to tell us how we are! Angry posts on TRP are just from guys going through the anger phase! TRP is really filled with loving, supportive and happy people! Trust me! Why you gotta hate m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 06:08 PM |
| 5 | Lets talk about the possiblity that BPers could be making fake accounts to "stir shit" with on TRP.... Are you seriously so dense as to think that TRP is so fundamentally sound that the only way that non-TRPers can cope with being so intellectually inferior is to create new/"fake" accounts just to "stir shit"? What even was the reason for you to write this post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 07:23 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist.... except for the fact that a large proportion(and I mean that seriously) of the TRP userbase seems to consistently upvote and submit posts that express heavy amounts of vitriol and general hatred towards women. As in, if-I-was-a-woman-I-would-feel-unsafe-about-my-physical-wellbeing-meeting-up-with-one-of-these-people-in-real-life kind of worrisome behaviour. I hope I don't need to remind you of the single mothers debacle, but that's just one example. I don't think people are at all in the wron… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 07:13 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The NiceGuy(TM) is a Caricature, a Cartoon Villain Created as a Boogeyman. He Does Not Exist."NiceGuys" are just as imaginative as your "Chad Thundercocks" and whatever female equivalent exists in the TRP doctrine. They're convenient when you want to prove a point without having to deal with the intricacies that come with acknowledging that these extremes are exactly that... extremes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 07:01 AM |
| 17 | Does TBP really believe that ALL of the guys on TRP NEVER get girls, EVER?Well once again, the top responses for a question for BPers gets an overwhelmingly RP response (top 2 responses at the time of this post are from non-BPers speaking for us)! Surprise, surprise! To add in though, most other BPers have it right: it's a satirical sub! No one's going on it to have meaningful discussions unless it pertains to the extreme and laughable content TRP provides. Stop getting your knickers in a knot because you want to humblebrag about "sexual strategies" getting you naked … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/15 07:44 PM |
| 2 | Does TBP really believe that ALL of the guys on TRP NEVER get girls, EVER?praise =/= compliments. This isn't a zero sum game. No relationships last where one person compliments their SO all the time to the point where it's meaningless, and no one doesn't compliment their SO at all (if they could even hope to be in a somewhat LTR). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/15 07:34 PM |
| 0 | [SuperBeta] Pills, what are the benefits of a Red Pill relationship?Are you just going to call it bullshit, or do you have an actual response? Is it really that unreasonable to think that people who have absolutely nothing in common should make terrible partners in a relationship, REGARDLESS of how they look? I think you're confusing infatuation/physical attractiveness with consummate love. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangular_theory_of_love#Mixed_support_for_the_triangular_theory And because you mentioned it, I don't think that my argument is in any way sta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/15 06:30 AM |
| 1 | [SuperBeta] Pills, what are the benefits of a Red Pill relationship?In regards to /u/Xemnas81's comment, A++ I have absolutely no desire to lift weights in gyms. I prefer physical activities that involve chasing a ball/running/etc. In the same vein, I have absolutely no attraction, as a heterosexual male, to Megan Fox. I don't think we have anything in common and would pass up sex/being in a LTR with her for my ex if given the choice. You base your argument on the conditional "and it would all work out well", and I hope you realize that you can't just use that a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/15 11:32 PM |
| 5 | [SuperBeta] Pills, what are the benefits of a Red Pill relationship?What if I told you that a fat ugly guy might not desire a "super-fit hot chick" because he doesn't want to be in a LTR with someone who has nothing in common with him? What if he just wants someone that understands him and can appreciate similar common interests or something like that? Physical attraction is not the only factor that determines a relationship's success now, is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/15 07:18 AM |
| 3 | Are there any benefits to dating white women?Prime Pussy is my nectar. http://33.media.tumblr.com/abfca4769c33d40e8249e29c7a16e87e/tumblr_inline_ndcj6uFRgR1t09k6m.gif | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/15 06:58 AM |
| 1 | An Open Response to Why No Blue Pillers Participate in this Sub; Or Why I'm No Longer Posting OC HereThe whole bluepill subreddit is an attack on the character of redpillers The whole red pill subreddit is an attack on the character of blue pillers ("betas") and feminism. This is a group of peers. There is no professor figure here. That's what I'm getting at. I'm looking for professional and academic discourse, not peers who I don't know spouting information that I don't know if they learned yesterday or spent hours or years researching or thinking about. It's a problem inherent to the anonymit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 06:42 AM |
| 1 | An Open Response to Why No Blue Pillers Participate in this Sub; Or Why I'm No Longer Posting OC Herea requirement for CMV is that the people who respond must disagree with you. Really now? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3csrdx/why_is_there_a_trp_is_misogynist_group_and_not_a/ would disagree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 06:36 AM |
| 1 | An Open Response to Why No Blue Pillers Participate in this Sub; Or Why I'm No Longer Posting OC Here... Because they have the freedom of speech on this sub where they will get down-voted to hell anywhere else they get mentioned on reddit? It makes sense that the only places that promise that TRP can say what's on their mind, they will flock. edit: also, like /u/PetticoatRuled mentioned: echo chamber and confirmation bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 06:33 AM |
| 1 | An Open Response to Why No Blue Pillers Participate in this Sub; Or Why I'm No Longer Posting OC HereI'd argue that TRP is more ban-happy than any feminist message board/website I've seen, but that's neither here nor there. And thanks for proving that I can predict when TRP will call me pathetic/resort to personal attacks. I clearly stated in the OP how I felt, and if you can't see how it's a waste of time for me to be on this sub, then I don't care to explain it to you again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 06:31 AM |
| 1 | An Open Response to Why No Blue Pillers Participate in this Sub; Or Why I'm No Longer Posting OC Here... it really doesn't matter to me whether or not one side is "bigger on reddit" than I am. It's never been about having more people on my side, it's been about having honest and intellectual conversation for me. And there's no honest and intellectual conversation when this sub is an echo chamber for TRP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 06:29 AM |
| 1 | An Open Response to Why No Blue Pillers Participate in this Sub; Or Why I'm No Longer Posting OC HereI'm offended by TRP because they offer racist, sexist, homophobic and (in my opinion) archaic views of relationships. In my opinion, they offer great things like personal improvement, improvements in self-esteem and exercise/health regiments which are all great, but then decide that it's for the pursuat of women at which point it goes downhill. People see improvements from the first part of TRP manifesto, and it encourages them to continue on an unhealthy path to treating women like lesser human… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 06:25 AM |
| 1 | An Open Response to Why No Blue Pillers Participate in this Sub; Or Why I'm No Longer Posting OC HereHe grossly misinterpreted the point of the video, saying that the man was sincerely laughing at rape jokes when it is clearly obvious to anyone who actually watched it that he doesn't find them funny, and has to laugh because it was socially acceptable and he had no other healthy coping mechanisms. And sorry, but I'm pretty sure /u/CisWhiteMaelstrom is basically a local celebrity on this sub and it would surprise no one that he's making these kinds of comments in the first place. FYI, all respon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 06:20 AM |
| 1 | An Open Response to Why No Blue Pillers Participate in this Sub; Or Why I'm No Longer Posting OC HereHow do I "make this sub good"? Do I keep bashing my head against a brick wall hoping that eventually I'll break through to the other side? I care about this stuff, but I don't care about this sub enough to continue. There are a plethora of other places both on and off reddit that I can get honest, face-to-face and friendly discussion. It's just unfortunate that this sub isn't one of those places for me. That's really all that I'm getting at. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 06:11 AM |
| 1 | An Open Response to Why No Blue Pillers Participate in this Sub; Or Why I'm No Longer Posting OC HereYou said: "He laughs at rape jokes. You've gotta finish the video." Fine, you didn't laugh at the video. But you grossly misinterpreted the point of the video: being that rape jokes are not funny to him, he has to laugh at them because it's the only way that he can cope with the trauma that he experienced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 06:08 AM |
| 1 | An Open Response to Why No Blue Pillers Participate in this Sub; Or Why I'm No Longer Posting OC HereThat's a fair point, but think about this then: I was the only one responding/commenting on the blue pill side. Only one other person commented in response to all of the red pillers, and both of us got down-voted to hell. So fine, even if it's totally reasonable and justified that no blue-pillers chimed in on the initial post, you can't see that it's a little off-putting that one other bper was present in the entire comment section? Also, think about this: all of the posts questioning blue pille… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 06:05 AM |
| -1 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.Dude, you edited in the part where you went back and read it. Don't even tell me that you "clearly said you went back and read it", because the original post that I REPLIED TO was you saying that you didn't feel like reading the rest. I'm only engage in debate when it's worth it No, you only "engage in debate" (if this is even debate and not arguing over semantics) when you want to let everyone else know what you think without absorbing what the other side says! Like /u/octopus_sushi said, compa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 06:48 PM |
| -1 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.But for every one video of women treating men like scum/toys, there are 50 more where men are treating women like scum/toys! No one's arguing that we shouldn't respect each other as different genders, but let's be real here: women are the subject of more objectification in popular culture and media than guys are! Just purely number-based/statistical, no bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 03:22 PM |
| -2 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.What if I told you it's a ridiculous argument to say that because other people in the world have it bad, we can't complain about how things are here? /u/octopus_sushi said it better than I could or can right now: Oh look, it's the good old "we're better than ISIS" argument. That's some sky-high standards you're setting for yourself there. No, I am not going to join ISIS. No, my hypothetical daughter is not going to join ISIS. Yes, the west does have a rape culture. This is like saying "if you th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 03:20 PM |
| -8 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.And yet, that wasn't the fucking point at all. Yes, that was "the fucking point at all"!!! His entire first point was telling me "Send your daughters there. I dare you to." And if you're not going to read, why the fuck are you on a debate subreddit which is supposed to challenge your views. Your abject laziness does nothing to make me respect your character, or your opinions. I'm sorry but this is a really stupid analogy. Actually, all your analogies were ridiculous now that I've gone back to re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 03:13 PM |
| -3 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.Nice argument. Instead of attacking people and saying that they're idiots, why don't you actually engage in the content of the argument? I'm sure you could accept someone getting bullied in school being reprimanded, so why are you so adamantly defending people that harass others online? Do you seriously think that youth are being "coddled" when they complain about nude pictures of themselves being spread and want them taken down? I think we're past this kind of thinking, unless all RPers just wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 03:07 PM |
| -3 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.Yeah, but think about the ratio of abused men to abused women. If you read through all of my other responses or just look at any credible website, women are abused more than men. 1 in 33 men are sexually assaulted in the US, whereas 1 in 6 women will experience sexual assault at least once in their life. That's just a fact. Openly, we can all accept that women are abused more than men. If you can seriously dispute that point, do so. So that being established, why do you oppose the idea of femini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 03:02 PM |
| -2 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.I'm still figuring out my thoughts on comedy/humour and free speech in relation to the offense that it causes some people. So to be honest, I would love to hear some thoughts on it. We're not people hell-bent on controlling what everyone has to say, but we want to be considerate of everyone's past when saying things that might bring up unsavoury parts of peoples' current or past lives. I really enjoy this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-55wC5dEnc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 02:56 PM |
| 0 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillReally? I'm the one who's wilfully ignorant? I dunno about you, but I was on the front page last night and guess what article was there: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3f87p1/ronda_rousey_on_do_nothing_bitches/ I will happily admit that I would get my ass kicked by her. Because she's a trained fighter and an athlete. I'm not a trained MMA fighter and I am totally OK with that! It doesn't affect my masculinity in the slightest! Do you have any other personal attacks, or do you have any … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 02:47 PM |
| 0 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.A legitimate debate would involve some kind of respect of the two positions This is the most interesting point to me when it comes down to debate between red and blue pillers. And I think you're right, there is no way to really have proper legitimate debate, which is really unfortunate. It means that both sides just get stuck in an echo-chamber reinforcing their own opinions and any views of the other side become "bogeymen". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 04:22 AM |
| 0 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillLol, yeah, that's exactly what facists always say. ...What even is this argument? Are you seriously comparing feminists to fascists? Actually respond to my argument! Who, in an actual feminist space, says that they control who can and can't speak? Why do you care? Does it make a difference in your life whether or not you have a voice in a feminist circle? I don't think so. So why do you oppose it? I'm not interested in watching a Star-Trek panel at comic-con because I'm not a fan of Star-Trek. D… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 04:11 AM |
| -4 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.Fair fair, what works for you works for you. I would never try to project my experiences as dogma, and maybe that's the issue that I have with some of the posters on TRP. But like many people have said before, there also seems to be a bit of an extreme view that gains traction there like nowhere else. But I think it's fair to assume that many RPers are relationship-inexperienced, well at least most of the lurkers I can assume. I can't say numbers, but if you look at how desparate most redditors … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 04:02 AM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.ALL of the men I know in my life have at least one firsthand experience of violence. Physically attacked by strangers who just wanted to beat somebody up. Do we live in a "violence culture"? Yeah! That's fucked up, man! We should actually do something about that. I'm not committed solely to feminist theory here. I think the concept of ghettos in the US is equally, if not more so, fucked up than feminism. But I don't like to rank them because it's just not how these things work. We need to re-eva… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 03:56 AM |
| -5 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.Indeed. The thing is that this is now the air we breathe, so it seems "normal", while pointing it out seems "misogynistic" or "angry" or "whiny", precisely because this kind of demonization of typical male sexuality is now in the air we breathe. Sorry, you set yourself up for this ;): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMTkedIUX8U As to relationship advice, I tend to ignore both sides because they're both toxic and manipulative. I go my own way and have done pretty well for myself if I don't say so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 03:51 AM |
| -5 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.He laughs at rape jokes. You've gotta finish the video. I stopped reading after you wrote that. I saw the whole video. If you can seriously watch it and the only thing that you get out of it is that he laughs it off and thinks rape is sincerely and not ironically funny, then I have absolutely nothing else to say to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 03:43 AM |
| 0 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillWhere are your facts? I see it as a result of incredibly biased hiring practices that attempt to ensure equal outcomes instead of equal opportunity. Here's one against your "fact": http://gender.stanford.edu/news/2014/why-does-john-get-stem-job-rather-jennifer Got any other "facts" you'd like to share? I think millions of men throughout history have been told "no" and still succeeded. Maybe, but trillions of women throughout history have been told "no" and look at who succeeded there. Speaks vol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 03:37 AM |
| -5 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.So you don't think that it's at all unfair that college guys can go on rampant drinking sprees and rape and pillage all they'd like, but women need to not get themselves in these situations? Sounds a lot like victim-blaming to me. And are you kidding me? You don't think that we as a society need to say "stop this bullshit" when guys are raped in locker rooms? Where is his out? Not playing sports? Hiding in his room because he's mitigating the most risk this way? That argument just frustrates me … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 03:27 AM |
| 1 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillThis proves your fundamental lack of ability to debate the topic. This is a theory based on GENERALIZATIONS and AVERAGES. Of course you can find a woman smarter than you. The point is that ON AVERAGE men are smarter, faster and stronger. The top, top of the geniuses will always be men. But is this inherent to the human race? Do you think centuries of telling women that they can't vote, fight in wars, have jobs, must stay home to raise children have anything to do with this? You don't see the inc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 03:17 AM |
| 1 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pill"I control who gets to talk because I'm in charge" "I control who gets to talk because these people are not usually allowed to talk - and I define who's 'not usually allowed to talk'" Said absolutely no one ever! Go look at who's actually talking in these spaces. It's a mix of the same dominating people who were dominating the conversation before everyone got tired of them incessently going on and finally got them to shut up, and the extremely submissive - who are now allowed to talk only about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 03:07 AM |
| 1 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillThat's because your "ideology" is rooted in feels Care to use more technical language? I know this is reddit, but saying things like that don't help to advance proper discourse. You really want women to be as capable as men. No. No, I know that women are as capable as men, both intellectually and physically. Personally, I know women way smarter than me, and some that are way stronger than me. Does that threaten my "manliness"? No, not really. It's a moot point, tbh. Do I really need to pull out … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 02:59 AM |
| -3 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.Experience is all we've got. Feminists have spent 80 years begging women to pretend they've been raped and then telling them how to feel about their nonexistent rape. Numbers are gonna reflect that mass bullshit campaign. So you're going to refute the Canada government stats I posted as well? Well in this case, I really don't have anything else to bring up if you're going to say that all professional/peer-reviewed reports/government websites are false and perpetrated by nasty feminists whose sol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 02:52 AM |
| -7 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.Stop trying to use personal anecdotes to defend your point. I can just as easily come back and say that I've been in a few relationships, and all of them ended amicably. Some I'm not in touch with anymore, but in no way am I resentful for how it ended, DESPITE who was the one who initiated it. Take the time to grow and reflect instead of venting to online strangers intent on taking advantage of you in an emotional mindset. Maybe it's because I'm not an inherently confrontational person, but I li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 02:26 AM |
| 3 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillOh, that was you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 02:19 AM |
| -3 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.I agree, many people in the subreddits I listed also were likely to suffer from some mental illness or the like. But what about the sane people who decide that TRP telling them to assert their dominance over a woman and let her know her place? The last thing we need is men on the "upper end" of the spectrum perpetrating these ideologies. Well if you want to adopt a Darwinist approach, I guess you can say that. But we're not a species that relies solely on physical strength or attractiveness to d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 02:18 AM |
| -6 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.No, but that question is largely irrelevant to the point of my article. I know where you're going with this, but the fact of the matter is there will always be violence. There will always be people with less than others. My argument is that we live in a society with so much (assuming you live in North America like I do). We have so many opportunities and the capability to treat people equally and accept the experiences of others as legitimate to their identities. So why do we oppose the existenc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 02:05 AM |
| -1 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.Well there's nothing I can do to help you there :/ A lot of other people commenting seem to suggest otherwise, but hey. This is reddit and I don't need to please random commenters online with my thoughts if you don't want to hear them. If you ever feel like engaging in debate, feel free to post/shoot me a PM and we can go from there. Also, I'm not at all tied down to a single position. Give me enough information/evidence and I can be convinced otherwise of my views. But I guess we've both wasted… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 02:00 AM |
| 4 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillWell my ideology is rooted in the idea that women are just as capable mentally and physically as men, whereas TRP's core principles seem to suggest otherwise (unless I'm sorely mistaken). I would love to see arguments against what I just said (truly), but almost every post on the subreddit suggests in one form or another what I just described... And this is good! It means that we're coming to somewhat a consensus as to what we agree upon! You dislike the extreme femi-nazis and I disapprove of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 01:56 AM |
| 7 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillAaaand this is why no one wants to engage in adult argumentation with RPers who act like you. For as much as you like to pretend that you're mature and have all of the arguments at your disposal, 95% of the time you end up attacking the person, not the argument. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVFK8sVdJNg Ironic that I'm calling you out on an ad-hominem attack when TRP claims that all Bloopers do is use it, huh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 01:50 AM |
| -3 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.No, the first is physical rape. The second is sexual harassment. They are categorically different. There are varying degrees of sexual harassment/assault, and I'm saying that the second kind that you listed is very much prevalent in today's society, and that it's seen as acceptable and even encouraged by most media and cultural outlets. That's problematic. That and TRP telling its members that the only way to "get the girl" is to act in a way that conforms to the view that women are capable of b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 01:46 AM |
| -4 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.Oh goody, this one is gonna be fun... So being a mature adult is just resigning yourself to the fact that there will be harassers, rapists, total scum of the earth and all of the victims of these heinous criminals should just "have a thick skin"? That seems pretty harsh to me. And before you go off ripping me a new anus saying that I need to grow a pair of balls and man up, I sincerely believe that the world doesn't need to just ignore these people and their victims/crimes in order for us to sol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 01:37 AM |
| -8 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.Did you also read my post? No one is trying to argue that we validate rape in NA. Try engaging in my actual argument, you and I might learn something today yet! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 01:17 AM |
| -5 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.Nice response. Did you read my post? I know the title is pretty flashy, but the post lists my thoughts on the whole thing. Try reading it and engaging in conversation, who knows you or I might learn a thing or two! :) I know it's easy to just deny the existence of rape culture (easy upvotes, yada yada yada) but use dat noggin to argue, not formulas! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 01:16 AM |
| -6 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.These comments contribute to women being harassed online and in the real world because the people who believe this stuff go out and treat women like all they care about is where they get their next fix, be it sex, money, or whatever else! Which is largely in personal anecdotes and the subreddits/general culture of reddit that pervades the front page. It doesn't go into details about women being normal people who cheat just like men do, with desires and thoughts and vulnerabilities that shouldn't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 01:13 AM |
| -2 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.:/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 01:07 AM |
| -8 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.Don't mistake personal experience as an indication for universal trends. I know I half used it in my OP (albeit with a disclaimer saying exactly this), but to say "Nobody with any experience with rape or trauma victims and half a brain would prescribe a safe space" is wrong in my experience, which I would say is just as valid a perspective as your own. Thankfully, successful arguments don't rely on these kinds of arguments, right? She craved responsible exposure, normality, and understanding, no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 01:06 AM |
| -1 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.Thanks for being reasonable and not getting angry in your response! :P Like any movement, I think that TRP has some redeeming qualities like the ones you listed. And perhaps I'm getting caught up in the extremes (I listed some particularly eggregious quotes in another response) but it just seems so... distateful the way that most of the active contributors of that community seem to address women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 12:54 AM |
| -4 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.That seems like such a cop-out answer... In that case, we can't really know anything because everyone has some ulterior motive behind all of the information that we get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 12:51 AM |
| -1 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.Well I guess there's nothing I can really tell you if you're just going to deny the legitimacy of these subreddits. Not to say that you're wrong as I can say that a few posts are probably sensationalized, but to deny the experiences of all of the stories posted seems a little much, to me at least. And feminists take this problem seriously. The whole idea of safe spaces is to help actual rape and sexual assault victims and provide them a place to share their experiences and support each other. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 12:48 AM |
| -3 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.Well what are we supposed to use????? I can't use statistics because "the powers that be" want to keep us in the dark, so I just have to accept that rape culture doesn't exist because I can't trust any information telling me otherwise? That sounds fucked up to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 12:39 AM |
| -5 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.We're online. 99% of what I read on here is not to be taken seriously. Really now? So why do most governments have laws concerning anti-harassment and online bullying? I disagree with this point entirely, and all you really have to do is look at people committing suicide over online bullying, not JUST women. Your perception of TRP is flawed, but that's another topic. Give me a specific examples of how TRP contributes to female harassment online or in the real world. "There's no such thing as a s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 12:37 AM |
| -5 | CMV: TRP not accepting the existence of rape culture/female harassment exacerbates the problem more than addresses it.women rape men too Yes, this is an issue. Yes, it's horrible. Yes, I have seen both this and this. Yes, I think that we need to do away with the shaming that comes along with men being sexually or physically harassed/assaulted. As to proportions, I'll let the statistics do the talking: https://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims Let's not kid ourselves here, women are much more susceptible to this kind of behaviour than men. If they called it sexual harassment culture… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 12:26 AM |
| 2 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQoRXhS7vlU | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 12:14 AM |
| 13 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillOr we can try and address this issue like adults and not attack the personalities/emotional fragilities of people as the sole reason for the lack of participation on this sub? Also, how are feminist or female-dominated spaces "authoritarian"? Feminism and safe spaces at their cores are rooted in the ideology that people who are not usually allowed to speak/feel comfortable speaking have a place to talk and be among like-minded people. In what way is this even vaguely "authoritarian"? And don't c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 12:13 AM |
| 6 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillJust submitted a post. Come at me, red pillers! :P | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/15 12:03 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about mansplaining? Is it misunderstood?And you could just as easily, if not more so, find equally difficult people on the red pill side who will use every fallacy in the book to come out as the debate winner. "You can disregard what this person has to say, she's a woman" or "You can disregard what this person has to say, she's not rational/too emotional/unstable." It very conveniently sidesteps the need to present a convincing argument when the basis of your own argument is to say that the other side is irrational. Every time someone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 11:18 PM |
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