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Graph pet peeve: You put “very satisfied” at the bottom of each graph, but at the top of the key… and used very similar colors for them all. Some of your base are color-blind. Myself included. Result: as far as I can tell, this graph says that people are better off being cut. Fix your graph. Use higher-contrast colors… and if you’re doing vertical alignment, stack your key in the same order you stack your data.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/25 03:49 PM
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"White Imperialism" - Deflection. Feminism is to blame for this one I don't think it's intentional, but this is also deflection... because the described problem predates feminism. It didn't create the problem, it can't have. I will absolutely agree that the direction feminism went on the whole means that it compounded the problem - it made it worse, and even validated it/excused it on a broad social level, making it harder to address... But the hard truth is that even if pointing fingers were va…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 05:34 PM
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Nothing happened all at once- some states earlier, some later- but the rough timeline is this: By 1856: vote extended to non-land-owning white male citizens. Some states still require tax-paying status (so those under the poverty line had no right to vote). By 1868: citizenship is finally guaranteed to all persons born in the US, except for native tribes By 1869: some states begin allowing women to vote. Many still do not. By 1870: federal law forbids states from limiting right to vote by race. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/22 09:47 PM
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This is exactly the opposite of accurate. Voting rights were originally delegated to the states… and they universally set voting rights to either: 1) land-owning whites 2) land-owning white males 3) tax-paying white males (land-owning or business-owning) 2 was most common, and in total, it’s estimated about 6% of the population could vote. Over the next century, some states got MORE restrictive, not less. Others went back and forth a bit. It wasn’t until the 1900’s anything we’d call progress st…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/22 05:31 PM
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Except what he did (if he did it) is a criminal act- sexual assault. Male, female or non-binary… adult or child- that’s a crime. Should it follow him the rest of his life? Maybe, but probably not. Good thing he’s a minor and would be tried as one… so even if convicted - it wouldn’t follow him into adulthood at all. As for the he-said/she-said, lack of evidence, etc… well. Again, that’s a good place for courts to weigh in. If he didn’t do it, or if the only evidence is her word… then courts aren’…
/r/MensRights12/09/21 04:00 PM
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Which is why, when minors commit crimes, we try them as minors (and that record is expunged when they reach adulthood). Aka- it doesn’t haunt them the rest of their lives. We don’t give them free passes at the time.
/r/MensRights12/09/21 03:13 PM
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Admittedly, you’ll find variations in the definition of any complex idea, depending on where you look. Some sources will describe socialism exactly as you did above- but modern economists dislike that definition. A common one that they are ok with - and that anyone can find, very easily, is: “a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” If the “community a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/21 03:27 AM
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Slight tweak, and you’re right- State Socialism has never been attempted large-scale, as a total system. It’s been tried small scale a bunch. And many nations have tried it within specific industries while others remain capitalistic (aka, universal healthcare would be State Socialism within the healthcare industry). And regular socialism (non-state) is actually pretty rampant. Major cities and urban areas get their electricity, water, and telecoms from the government or a private (capitalist) bu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/21 01:58 PM
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I would say this is a problem with definitions. The important distinction is that socialism is premised on the idea of collectivism... ultimate power has to reside with the workers. You are correct that a state can be an intermediary - managing the business on behalf of the workers... but that's only socialism if the state/government is working on behalf of the public AND answerable to them. If the workers have no control over the state, how can they be said to control production via the State? …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/21 05:49 AM
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I’ve heard reserved but expressive? They’re more engaging on the small stuff so it doesn’t get big, and therapy/help groups/emotional support is more common.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/21 06:06 PM
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It varies? I mean. Maybe? We don't really have any good examples of countries that went through the Industrial Revolution without Capitalism (USSR/China don't count - they can call themselves Socialist, but they're classified as State Capitalism. Names mean nothing, IMO - North Korea call itself a Democratic Republic, after all.)... And we can't say for sure if a country like Norway is more emotionally progressive because of their culture, or because they're a hybrid economic model. But... maybe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/21 04:36 PM
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Yes, but maybe no? I can't think of a single country that's gone through the industrial revolution that wasn't Capitalist at the time - or something worse like State Capitalism (FYI - that's what the USSR and China are classified as - just because they call themselves socialist doesn't mean anything. North Korea calls itself democratic, and that's clearly not true either). But the driving factors I mention COULD be independent of capitalism. No matter the economic system: Early industrialization…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/21 04:32 PM
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For historical context... used to be that public shows of emotion were considered manly. That changed during the Industrial Revolution. There are stories about knights publicly weeping when they was called to service - because it meant they would miss a tournament they’d been preparing for and looking forward to. Stories of whole armies breaking down in tears when a popular celebrity warrior died. And guides on gentlemanly behavior discussing how such shows of emotion - as long as they weren’t f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/21 02:42 PM
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Yeah. Contrary to common intuition... Given a random sample, 250-500 people is plenty for definitive results. But it needs to be an actual, reasonably random sample. Besides where it’s shared, there are some red flags in the group demographics. 80% male... average age 49 (90% between 36 and 62). That does NOT sound representative of a random sample to me, AT ALL.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/21 08:00 AM
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1- let’s not tunnel vision on male-rapist/male-victim dynamics. 2- both experience a loss of self-determination, personal security and power, in a very intimate way. You’re focusing on “ability to protect or appear stoic” but... so what? That’s just one narrow element of self-determination, personal security and power that YOU happen to stress because it’s YOUR personal metric for having self-determination, personal security and power. My metric for having those things may be different. Your met…
/r/MensRights04/11/20 05:54 AM
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No. It’s more efficient to maim. Physically, that takes out the fighter AND whoever then needs to focus on getting them out AND whoever then needs to focus on caring for them. You tie up way enemy more resources maiming the enemy than killing them. Mentally... it shakes morale throughout the entire unit, and erodes it throughout the entire army. Killing someone makes a martyr and can improve morale. Maiming them makes a reminder why you don’t want to be here, fighting this fight.
/r/MensRights03/11/20 02:31 PM
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It isn’t biological. It’s recent. Stories abound (prior to 1800’s) of men crying in public and receiving care and even praise... over things as big as the death of a king, or as minor as missing out on a tournament you’d been hyping yourself up for. ... and old manuals on how to be a good/noble/noteworthy man mention talk about it too- that a man being moved to tears is a sign that he’s noble and honorable, and the thing that moved him to tears is important. It changed in the industrial revoluti…
/r/MensRights03/11/20 02:27 PM
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Maybe we can stop with the bullshit entirely and admit it doesn’t emasculate men anymore than it defeminizes women. It dehumanizes people - and if, by chance, part of their identity is built up in gender or gender norms, that’s included.... but still not the fuckin point. It dehumanizes. Period.
/r/MensRights03/11/20 02:18 PM
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Legal definition for sound mind more or less means you can’t claim loss of control or faculties. Manslaughter in the UK is meant more for temporary insanity and crimes of passion. A sociopath will still get a murder charge, but can plea insanity and go to an institution for life. Temporary insanity gets you downgraded to manslaughter, and you still go to jail. Her gleeful smiling while stabbing him is probably the key piece of evidence that got her temporary insanity.
/r/MensRights23/10/20 07:58 PM
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I think in this instance, the reports of her gleefully smiling while casually pulling the knife out got her what amounts to a “temporary insanity” plea. Which just tells me if I ever need to kill someone in the UK, I need to make sure I look like a cartoon villain while I do it.
/r/MensRights23/10/20 07:54 PM
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In the UK- murder doesn’t have to be premeditated, but it does have to be intentional and of sound mind. In this case, the jury is accepting her claim not to have been of sound mind at the time of the murder.
/r/MensRights23/10/20 05:02 PM
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In the UK- murder doesn’t have to be premeditated, but it does have to be intentional and of sound mind. In this case, the jury is accepting her claim not to have been of sound mind at the time of the murder.
/r/MensRights23/10/20 05:02 PM
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In the US: Murder 1- intentional, premeditated, sound mind Murder 2- intentional, sound mind Voluntary Manslaughter - intentional Involuntary Manslaughter - unintentional but gross negligence/recklessness that any reasonable person sees could have resulted in death UK: Murder- intentional, sound mind Manslaughter- intentional Involuntary Manslaughter - same as US
/r/MensRights23/10/20 05:01 PM
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This is close. In the UK- murder doesn’t have to be premeditated, but it does have to be intentional and of sound mind. In this case, the jury is accepting her claim not to have been of sound mind at the time of the murder.
/r/MensRights23/10/20 04:57 PM
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For the US, you can get life if you steal a candy bar, as long as it’s your third conviction, and one of the first 2 was an assault.
/r/MensRights23/10/20 04:56 PM
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This is close. In the UK- murder doesn’t have to be premeditated, but it does have to be intentional and of sound mind. In this case, the jury is accepting her claim not to have been of sound mind at the time of the murder.
/r/MensRights23/10/20 04:55 PM
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This is close. In the UK- murder doesn’t have to be premeditated, but it does have to be intentional and of sound mind. In this case, the jury is accepting her claim not to have been of sound mind at the time of the murder.
/r/MensRights23/10/20 04:55 PM
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This is close. In the UK- murder doesn’t have to be premeditated, but it does have to be intentional and of sound mind. In this case, the jury is accepting her claim not to have been of sound mind at the time of the murder.
/r/MensRights23/10/20 04:54 PM
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One extra layer if I may: The aggrieved does get to decide if they need help. If they experienced a trauma. What it means to them. This can mean that a clear-cut assault may not be seriously traumatic. It can also mean that something that, legally, was definitely not assault was traumatic, and they should have access to mental health care and support without shame or mockery. Their subjective experience is still... theirs. What they don’t get to decide is anything past that. The evidence, the la…
/r/MensRights08/07/20 05:41 AM
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This specific law in France still requires penetration (non penetrative sexual assault is a different crime in their laws)... but this change allows for the person doing the penetrating (the penetrator or the “author” - actor would be a better translation) to be either the accused or the victim.
/r/MensRights03/07/20 11:22 PM
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Better translation would be actor. So, “Sexual penetration of someone else by the actor or on the actor by someone else, by use of violence, coercion, threat or surprise.” Sexual penetration of someone else by the actor = Person A penetrates Person B without B’s consent (because A used violence, coercion, threat or surprise.) Sexual penetration of the actor by someone else = Person A penetrates Person B without A’s consent (because B used violence, coercion, threat or surprise.)
/r/MensRights03/07/20 11:19 PM
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This is closer to fair. For a number of reasons... not least, it takes longer to recover than die, so it’ll often be the case that deaths surge early, and recoveries catch up. That said - deaths aren’t being accurately reported either. We’re pretty sure China under reported deaths by ~40,000... and several nations have noted a spike in pneumonia deaths about the same time they identified their first Covid cases. As long as we acknowledge that the official numbers aren’t the whole picture, that’s…
/r/MensRights12/04/20 03:48 PM
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I would like to point out that the UN and WHO’s mortality calculation is also bullshit. They’re taking deaths / cases. It should be deaths / resolved cases (deaths and recoveries). Imagine I plan on flipping 100 coins, one at a time every minute. After 10 minutes, the current run is (HHTHTTTHHT) - 5 heads and 5 tails. If I divide tails by total coins, I can say definitively that tails only comes up 5% of the time, can’t I? But that’s wrong. The coins I haven’t flipped yet shouldn’t count... beca…
/r/MensRights12/04/20 06:14 AM
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Agreed on it being disgusting... but another case where it's worthwhile to point out that there's more than one kind of equality... the good kind, and the awful kind. I'm not sure how regretful it is. Custody and Child Support cases... well, there are guidelines, but judges are allowed to express discretion. Maybe these judges don't want to rock the boat - going with the guidelines is easier, and going against them creates ripples, as your decision is going to get cited in future cases. But I've…
/r/MensRights02/04/20 05:18 AM
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To the courts’ credit... those “comparable” examples happen sometimes too. Alabama had a case in 2019 hit mainstream coverage... the girl was 13 when her uncle first got her pregnant, but despite being clearly rape in the eyes of the law (incest, underage) he was never charged. She couldn’t legally get an abortion without parental permission - and her parents in fact forced a marriage. After divorce, he sued for visitation, and courts sided with him. Michigan had another mainstream case in 2017 …
/r/MensRights01/04/20 06:58 PM
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No legal loopholes necessary. One of the cases of this that I’ve researched, the woman actually was convicted of rape, and went to jail. She gave birth in jail and was moved to house arrest as a result of standard policy regarding inmates and pregnancy. And the victim was still held liable for child support (his parents will have to pay it until he turns 18). The judge acknowledged the special circumstances, but made a statement to the effect that they don’t change the boy’s responsibilities.
/r/MensRights01/04/20 02:38 PM
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It’s weird. This question - or something very close to it - comes up on askReddit or AskMen probably every 3 weeks or so, and gets lots of attention every time... ...and yet, also every time, everyone is surprised. Surprised this happens. Surprised how much it happens. Surprised at society’s response. Surprised it’s getting so much attention. Surprised when a week later, it’s forgotten again.
/r/MensRights24/02/20 06:33 PM
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It was a Supreme Court ruling, that the laws violated the Right to Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amendment and over a century of Supreme Court rulings (like, for example, the one that said the Violence Against Women Act had to be changed to be gender-neutral in 2000). Your guess is 100% accurate.
/r/MensRights09/12/19 07:00 PM
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There are also, FYI, multiple forms of MGM. FGM has 4 classifications, with 2 subclasses for whether the clitoris is affected or not. MGM has 4 classifications. (look them up at your own discretion - definitely NSFW) When people claim they aren't comparable, it's because they're trying to compare the worst forms of one to the most common forms of the other... which. I mean. We all see the problem with that, right?
/r/MensRights09/12/19 06:54 PM
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I don’t disagree with any of that. Just pointing out why an 8-yo post with handful of anti-circ comments in it wouldn’t be very satisfying for anyone here... And why, even if that is the best course of action, most ppl here will see it as a fool’s errand. I mean. Just search circumcision on the sub, and tell me the title of the top(all time) result. Not saying THAT’s indicative either, especially given the content has nothing to do with circumcision, but... I mean... my point is: Your one exampl…
/r/MensRights03/12/19 03:24 AM
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There’s something to looking at the larger trends and opinions. Searching the sub for the term “circumcision” only showed 1 post this year mentioning circumcision, and the highest upvoted post EVER mentioning it (a mere 26 upvotes) was complaining about how implementing male circumcision in an African country was causing an uptick in FGM. Given the low comment-count, I parsed through a dozen or so of them and found, generally, most commenters were against both (occasional exceptions for religion…
/r/MensRights02/12/19 05:41 PM
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It's not so much the age of the data - although I will say that I don't think it's fair to trust old data to the exclusion of new - so much as the source. My first data source was the 2012 NCVS. Yours was the 1973-1977 NCVS as sort of vaguely confirmed by Nixon's FBI. I don't trust Nixon's FBI on racial issues. Could be because they've explicitly stated after retiring that they explicitly and intentionally waged a PR campaign against the hippy and black communities. Which I need to come back aro…
/r/MensRights23/11/19 02:08 AM
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I can't trust a study from 2012, because it's based on self-reporting, and probably skewed! We'll use this study that combines self-reporting from the 1970's! Gee. Seems awfully sketchy there. I mean. Being a math teacher doesn't make 50 year old data valuable. Especially in the context of race OR crime, much less race and crime. (Side note, since you seem to think credentials matter to your argument, I'm a physicist currently working as a professional researcher and computer programmer for a da…
/r/MensRights23/11/19 12:05 AM
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Oh. I see what you're trying to do. Unfortunately, you got a step wrong. There are in fact *not* more total crimes in poor black neighborhoods, in raw numbers. See my pt #3 above. From the Bureau of Justice Statistics, Figure 4. Below the Poverty Line (White) - 46.4 violent crimes per 1,000 people (~17,137,000 people, so ~795,156 violent crimes) Below the Poverty Line (Black) - 43.4 violent crimes per 1,000 people (~5,698,000 people, so 247,293 total violent crimes) So, out of context, poor blac…
/r/MensRights22/11/19 04:38 PM
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You’re mixing contexts. 1: There are more poor white neighborhoods, yes. 2: There are disproportionately more poor black neighborhoods. 3: There is more crime in poor white neighborhoods. 4: There is disproportionately more crime in poor black neighborhoods. All 4 statements are true, but you’re trying to use #1 to say that #4 is a misrepresentation... when #1 is about raw numbers with no context, and #4 is about proportionality.
/r/MensRights22/11/19 03:24 PM
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Because there are way more white people than black people, period. By raw #’s with no context, you’re right. But only by raw #’s with no context... which is a really stupid way to be right, because among other things, it validates mainstream complaints about the wage gap entirely. Shit, man: By that argument, because more rats die every year than cheetahs, rats should take their place on the endangered list. According to the US census- 5.4% of all white persons are under the poverty line, and 10…
/r/MensRights22/11/19 03:11 PM
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Maybe it is all about class. Problem being that those poor, high crime neighborhoods? Intentionally primarily black. As in, the people who did districting and zoning have admitted to setting things up to create a class divide along racial lines. Repeatedly. So sure. It’s 100% about class. But class is often about race.
/r/MensRights22/11/19 05:43 AM
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True. But also- I was actually taught this exact thing, in seriousness, as a kid. Schools in my area were pretty bad, and I got bullied a lot, Sosa one point my parents decided to try to send me to private school. Private Christian school. They regret it in hindsight. The bullying just came from the teachers instead. One of the core lessons was that: 1- women are pure, beautiful, angelic creatures that just want love and marriage and kids 2- men are disgusting, nearly-unredeemable animals who on…
/r/MensRights25/10/19 06:13 PM
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Memory is malleable. Like... very, very malleable. This is especially true for events that you retell (or relive) over and over again. The story you tell isn’t reliable, and starts to change the memory. Men have strong social pressures to retell their stories a particular way. Women, strong social pressures to retell their stories another way. Say a guy wipes out trying to jump a ditch on his bike. He breaks his wrist. It hurts a lot, and takes months to heal. But how long before he’s talking ab…
/r/MensRights20/10/19 03:23 AM
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Self defense laws are pretty clear about if the aggressor retreats. Unfortunately for him, that means they both committed assault.
/r/MensRights28/09/19 04:52 PM
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By this logic, then it's also ok to say that the clitoris is NOT removed in Type 1 or Type 2... because... well... that's not the same as saying it's NEVER removed. Right? Look. I appreciate your attempt to dissemble, but... you're bad at it. When you follow a claim that Type 1/2 FGM is comparable to Circumcision with "No it isn't, because the clitoris is removed in Type 1/2 FGM..." it's pretty clear what you meant, regardless of what you said. If you had SOMEHOW meant "the clitoris is removed i…
/r/MensRights19/09/19 03:09 AM
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You stated in your first post on this thread that: The external clitoris is removed during Type 1 and Type 2 FGM. OP assumed all Type1/2 was 1a/2a. He was wrong. You assumed all Type1/2 was 1b/2b. You were wrong. You’re both wrong... but yet, you justify wishing mutilation and cancer on him. And defend that stance by wishing for MORE RAPE in the world so people who haven’t been raped can understand it? Maybe you’re a decent person IRL... but here, today, with everything I’ve seen of you... you’r…
/r/MensRights17/09/19 04:11 PM
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Says a woman who insisted that all FGM involves the removal of the clitoris. I have about a dozen good reasons not to take you seriously at this point, and you just keep digging deeper. I corrected him on his comparison. If he’d specified that Type1a/2a were equivalent to common-practice male circumcision, he’d have been 100% right. If you’d specified that Type1b/2b were worse, you’d have been 100% right. Instead, you both generalized, each making the assumption that most benefitted you. Neither…
/r/MensRights17/09/19 03:34 PM
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Yes I will tell sexual assault victims their experiences are not as bad as full on rape. Obviously. And then tell them to suck it up, shut up, sit down, and that you hope that they get cancer? You’re happy to rank everyone’s subjective experience of harm, label them, and then shame them for their feelings on their lived experiences, simply because someone somewhere else might have it worse? If I was actually raped, and a sexual assault victim was telling me what happened was just as bad, yes of …
/r/MensRights17/09/19 05:22 AM
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Just as an FYI, there are some pretty brutal, damaging forms of MGM as well. They happen to be rare, and aren’t practiced anywhere in Europe or America- but then, a lot of equality movements tend to be shockingly tunnel-visioned on those two continents. Definitely NSFW, and I don’t recommend looking it up unless you’re into body horror, but subincision is the one I would say is probably closest to Type3. Anyway. Serious question: why should we focus more attention on the things that are worse? S…
/r/MensRights17/09/19 05:12 AM
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The only anatomy falsehoods in his original post are where he lumps Type1a and Type1b together. That seems to be a common problem though. It happened in another reply to one of my posts this very night.
/r/MensRights17/09/19 04:56 AM
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I’m sure you mean well, but your post here gives me the impression you didn’t bother to read mine, and assumed ignorance on my behalf without even bothering to check first. This doesn’t help anyone... and in fact, does your counter argument a severe disservice. I’m well aware that Type 1b involves removal of the clitoris exactly as you describe, and covered that in my original post. Type 1a on the other hand doesn’t touch the clitoris. Here’s a link to the World Health Organization’s classificat…
/r/MensRights17/09/19 04:53 AM
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If men think being treated like humans is weird... maybe treating them poorly isn’t the solution.
/r/MensRights17/08/19 04:34 PM
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I get it. I’m tempted to agree. However, that’s the same stance that justifies Patriarchy Theory... among other problematic justifications.
/r/MensRights17/08/19 04:24 PM
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Right. That is a problem. The people I know personally who call themselves feminists explicitly don’t claim to have all the answers or be the only path to equality... they support my identifying as an MRA, because they know that means I can solve problems they can’t. That said, that’s just a half dozen people I know personally... and compared to how many of the ideology’s louder voices speak, only goes so far with me... much less with any of you.
/r/MensRights15/08/19 12:12 AM
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Yep. Basically. As I said at the end- your mileage may vary. I know several people personally, who call themselves feminists, who support my work as an MRA (and my right to prioritize men’s issues). But a LOT of the most prominent feminist voices are genuinely awful people. Sexist, or even just inhumane. So. You know. Not an assumption you can make either way, and be 100%. (I’m going to decline to comment on how sure an assumption either one is, because I know my personal experience means nothin…
/r/MensRights15/08/19 12:08 AM
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If someone wants to prioritize women’s issues over men’s, that’s fine, and they can call themselves a feminist and still be pro-real-equality. I mean. I don’t know about you guys, but I sure as hell have limited time, and can’t manage to dedicate myself to every cause 100%... and if I spend an hour providing support to male abuse victims, it doesn’t mean that I’ve stopped caring about the draft... or climate change... or police brutality... or on and on. I acknowledge all those problems, and I c…
/r/MensRights14/08/19 09:46 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3175099/
/r/MensRights10/08/19 06:41 PM
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Which means they realized it needed to be changed... and went: “you know what? Nah.”
/r/MensRights10/08/19 06:41 PM
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Seconded. Google is failing me, because there are too many headlines like this. Edit: Google image search, however, did the trick. Sorry to say, guys, this seems fake, wherever it came from. The woman in the image came up all right - but while she's been arrested (5 different times) for seducing and drugging men to rob them... she's never been a teacher. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article83123192.html https://www.local10.com/news/crime/rolex-robber-accused-of-tar…
/r/MensRights10/08/19 02:26 PM
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By many ppl’s standards, it probably is, for the following reasons: —he knows who/what she is, and she blatantly pressured him into a sexual exchange, going so far as to ambush him with images of her naked. —he’s clearly hesitant and nervous going into the scene. Although he smiles once when they start the sexy role play... there’s an implication that he got strongly pressured into this. By most ppl’s standards, as well as legal standards, it definitely is, for the following reasons: —it doesn’t…
/r/MensRights04/08/19 07:54 PM
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There’s some crossover because of that though. I may explicitly consent to safe sex only. If I am then subjected to unsafe sex... that’s no longer consensual. Being more clear though- legally, some kind of violence, coercion (physical or otherwise) or incapacitation is required under the law, for it to constitute rape, or even sexual assault... deceit- including omission- isn’t enough. Which is exactly why states have a separate law for intentionally exposing someone to a disease.
/r/MensRights01/08/19 01:03 PM
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Don’t get me wrong- I for sure think that comparing #2 and #4 should include any negotiated benefits. However, the women are saying “we get paid less for the same work”... to which the USSF literally replied “No... actually, you get paid the same for more work.” Which. Um. Isn’t a win.
/r/MensRights01/08/19 12:43 PM
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Yes. Exactly. That’s why the data is terrible. There are 4 categories: 1: Women’s Income from USSF for League Play 2: Women’s Income from USSF for International Play 3: Men’s Income from League Teams for League Play 4: Men’s Income from USSF for International Play If you want to see the difference in pay for League and international play, compare #1 and #2... same gender, same source of income. Only variable is the work (League vs International). If you want to see difference in pay for gender, …
/r/MensRights01/08/19 05:47 AM
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That entirely misses the point. The women agreed to get paid two salaries for two jobs from one source. The men agreed to get paid two salaries for two jobs from two sources. Comparing salary/job to salary/job tells us one thing. Comparing salary/source to salary/source tells us another. When someone is complaining about one, pointing out the other is meaningless. I hate hot weather. Telling me that my shoes are nicer than yours may be true, and awfully nice of you, but irrelevant.
/r/MensRights31/07/19 11:17 PM
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For the record, I want to separate out 3 points: 1- Profitability of the two leagues is, and should be a factor. If, for example, the Women’s World Cup paid the same prize money as the Men’s, it would go bankrupt and there would be no more Women’s World Cup. Similar logic may apply here... and I support that argument. 2- Negotiated pay differences (women getting a secured salary no matter how often or well they play, while men get paid per game with bonuses for performance) are something everyon…
/r/MensRights31/07/19 08:22 PM
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Thanks for clarifying. Regardless, the USSF’s response invited complaints that it wasn’t a fair appraisal, precisely because it did this. I also agree about the negotiations being intentionally different.
/r/MensRights31/07/19 07:05 PM
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There are some accounting issues. The biggest being that the players in the report aren’t just part of the US international team- they’re in the local US league on various teams as well. The report includes women’s pay from the international team AND the national league. But it only includes pay from the men’s international team, because the men’s league pays for itself.
/r/MensRights31/07/19 04:32 PM
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Context question group 1: dunno. Not terribly interested in the show to start with. Less now. Question group 2: doesn’t matter, and shouldn’t. She’s doing it in a sexual situation, with sexual intent, and getting sexual pleasure from it. The mouth and ass aren’t sexual organs either, by the way.
/r/MensRights31/07/19 12:26 PM
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The women’s team spokesperson also says that league-level numbers aren’t representative because it includes women’s pay for the national league, but not men’s pay for the same (the women’s national league is paid for by US Soccer, whereas the men’s national league is paid for by franchise). Which may be a fair complaint. I still think the whole thing is absurd, because it’s impossible to balance the two separate ideologies. Men get paid for games and more for wins. Women get paid for weeks on th…
/r/MensRights30/07/19 04:08 PM
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No argument... but there’s more than one way to get there... and sometimes it’s best not to jump straight to the end. One of the universals of science and math education though is... that we teach it wrong on purpose. Every year, every new, more advanced study of a thing starts with “Remember what we taught you last year? Technically wrong. Here’s the truth.” Only to have the next year do the same thing again. Why? Because your average first year student isn’t ready for 4th year stuff... so you …
/r/MensRights29/07/19 02:10 PM
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Not a point I would even try to make if you want to win anyone over at all, if I were you. It’s a very hard sell, and even harder to do without sounding callous... which they’re going to be primed to expect you to be. My point being- the misunderstanding she’s having comes entirely from the assumption that all Type 1 is 1b, all Type 2 is 2b.
/r/MensRights29/07/19 01:58 PM
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For clarity: Type 1a and 2a are comparable. Type 1b and 2b are the ones that involve removing the clitoris... and while intentional removal of the glans is pretty well unheard of, accidental removal or scarring does happen often enough to bring up. Type 3 does have a sort-of male counterpart, actually, called subincision. I do NOT recommend looking up any pics- but... best way to describe it: If the penis is a pipe- this involves cutting it so it’s a half-pipe instead. Only a few remote tribes p…
/r/MensRights29/07/19 05:49 AM
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"her kind" refers to "her and only her"? Sure. Yeah. You betcha. Any other parts of the english language you want to completely redefine to support your bullshit argument?
/r/MensRights26/07/19 09:06 PM
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“her kind” No assumption necessary. They made a blatantly sexist comment. Also, it added exactly nothing to the conversation and movement... and, if anything, gave those who oppose it ammunition with which to demonize us.
/r/MensRights26/07/19 07:42 PM
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Which is...? The image cuts that off. It’d be good to know who we’re praising.
/r/MensRights07/07/19 03:09 PM
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Of course- they applies the other way too. To jail someone for a false claim, that claim must also be provably false, and either malicious or grossly negligent. Standards go both ways on this.
/r/MensRights25/06/19 04:53 PM
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Oh boy howdy did you pick a stupid fight. So. You find the only astronaut in NASA history to be arrested for a violent crime.... which... proves... what exactly? That it can happen? Sure. But let's look at details. She was selected for NASA in 1996 for a single flight that got delayed until 2006. A lot can change in 10 years, but whatever. She went up in 2006. After that, although she was still technically on NASA's flight records, there were no plans to send her again. She was a one-off special…
/r/MensRights24/06/19 06:38 PM
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I’d love to see source (I have no reason to doubt you, but still. Source > “I think there was”)... but still: You know why? Random sample. NASA is super selective and tests for this shit.
/r/MensRights24/06/19 03:54 PM
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There are ongoing studies about this. First off- women seem to be more resistant to the kinds of radiation astronauts are exposed to past the Van-Allen belts. Not a lot more, but enough to matter. Second- they seem to handle long term close-quarters confinement better, although this likely has to do more with social conditioning than any biological factor. Third- if you want to base your imagination here off the worst-case stereotype, let’s go whole hog and talk about how weird it is that a bunc…
/r/MensRights24/06/19 03:52 PM
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Without knowing what you mean by that, I'm not sure where to take it... So... I thought I'd ask - what exactly is your meaning?
/r/MensRights18/06/19 08:12 PM
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I personally am completely against procreation and marriage so..... Well then, you and he should have a problem there. He's in favor of marriage, just against GAY marriage. As for procreation - while he's obviously not interested in procreating himself, he seems to think everyone straight should. I however have never seen him support the draft or conscription of any type I didn't expressly say that he did. Perhaps he doesn't. Personally, I find it telling that he's taken time to come out against…
/r/MensRights18/06/19 08:11 PM
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He had a few articles and public speaking engagements pointing out the growing education gap. Got posted here a fair bit in the wake of that. But his stance on almost everything is (depending on context and how much good faith you’re willing to extend) either very confusing or absolutely terrible. Examples: Publically opposes birth control of any kind. Thinks they’ve led to a rash of promiscuity, among other things. Opposes women in combat. Thinks only men should be forced to die for their count…
/r/MensRights17/06/19 08:05 PM
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Tribalism is a big problem though. Everything looks like a monolith from far enough away, outside of it. Your average Southern Baptist would struggle to tell the difference between Catholic and Anglican - much less Sunni and Shia Islam... but could probably lecture you all day on the differences between them and the nearest rival. Elam did a lot for drumming up outrage, and feeding the movement’s early boom, but crossed a few lines and we’re seeing that now. We even, briefly, embraced Milo, beca…
/r/MensRights17/06/19 06:17 PM
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I agree. I think part of it comes down to simple tribalism though. It’s just much harder to really understand a group from outside of it. Your average, right wing, Southern Baptist can lecture you for hours on the differences between his church and the next one over, and at least knows that Lutherans and Methodists are different, even if he’s never been to either… But can’t tell the difference between Shia and Sunni Islam (as significant a divide as Catholic and Protestant), and might not know S…
/r/MensRights13/06/19 02:13 PM
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Of course, it also doesn’t help that most ppl lump us and Roosh/Milo/etc under the same umbrella. Feminism isn’t a monolith but I guess MRM is?
/r/MensRights13/06/19 01:42 PM
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For the crime in question (sexual misconduct with a minor), if she’s over 21, it’s a lvl 4 felony. 12 years is the max sentence in Indiana. That said, if he’d been 14, not 15, this would’ve been a lvl 1 felony, with a minimum 20 yrs (40 max). Why? The criminal code for sexual contact with a child 14 or under specifies: —normally class 3 —class 1 if: ——accused is at least 21 ——accused threatens or causes serious bodily harm ——accused uses a drug ——it results in the transmission of a dangerous STD…
/r/MensRights10/06/19 02:11 PM
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The kid, too, now.
/r/MensRights10/06/19 02:03 PM
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It seems like she’s saying that the quotas accomplish nothing, if they’re being fulfilled by self-interested assholes. Aka, the problem is mostly class, not gender.
/r/MensRights06/06/19 10:22 PM
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Both of the cases you listed, the accused was a woman, and a US citizen, not to mention different states... and still got convicted and spent years in jail before appeal got them out. There’s a significant conviction and sentencing gap at play between men and women. I can pretty much guarantee he would’ve gotten convicted, too. Appeal would’ve been possible, but harder for a Hispanic man and non-citizen. And through all of that, the plea system is stupid broken.
/r/MensRights29/05/19 12:47 PM
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Hey, guys: the actual article isn’t taking it easy on her (other than avoiding calling it rape). It stresses that BECAUSE she’s young and a woman and a newlywed, this is even more horrifying, because why would someone who has everything go and do something so awful, ruining kid’s lives. Decent article. Shit headline. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox2detroit.com/amp/news/local-news/rochester-special-ed-teacher-charged-with-having-sex-with-2-students
/r/MensRights27/05/19 06:36 PM
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The real problem is that she’s told 4 different stories, according to official docs. One of them would absolutely qualify as rape. One is fuzzy, but probably not. The other 2 definitely aren’t. Guess which of the 4 stories is the one that the campus is treating as the true one?
/r/MensRights09/05/19 09:12 PM
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Addendum: actual article says that her plea deal included a recommendation to the judge for a suspended sentence... ...and the judge doesn’t like it. Says she was cruel and callous, wants her to go to trial, and see jail. Hearing is on Monday. So she hasn’t skated yet.
/r/MensRights18/04/19 12:27 PM
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Ok, so... after reading the article... headline has it backwards. She was charged with 21 sex offenses. She plead for a lighter sentence- the agreement was a 6 year suspended sentence (aka, 6 years to be tacked onto any future offense in the same time frame) and 5 years probation. The judge said “hell no” and sent it to trial anyway, on the basis that, reviewing the case, says her crimes “involved great cruelty and callousness.” Basically- she got a no-jail plea deal, but the judge is saying it …
/r/MensRights17/04/19 05:06 AM
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Not in those 4 comment snippets, no. And sure... those snippets do represent the most-upvoted top-tier comments in the post, but they’re also SUPER debated comments if you look at the actual content & replies.
/r/MensRights15/04/19 07:19 PM
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I mean. She also raped them. The first victim to come forward says he passed out during foreplay... and woke up with a used condom. If we believe him, that’s rape.
/r/MensRights30/03/19 06:31 PM
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Or... or... I meant that everyone sells their body (or part of it) in one way or another. Construction worker? Sells his body for money. Math teacher? Mostly only sells their mind, but that is, technically speaking, just the most important part of their body. No matter what you do - if you work for a living, you're selling little pieces of yourself... of your time, which is the only thing you really have... of your life... of your body. Course... the ones who are independently wealthy and don't …
/r/MensRights22/03/19 03:03 AM
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“Selling your body for money” is what pretty damn near everyone does.
/r/MensRights17/03/19 04:33 AM
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Cursory google search can find the name and date. 2013, apparently. Account, if it was real, has since been deleted... but can be found on the waybackmachine
/r/MensRights28/02/19 04:27 PM
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I’d love to have full rights to my body.
/r/MensRights25/02/19 08:21 PM
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Posts like this one really confuse me sometimes. All those things? Built on our bodies. On male disposability. Which is at least one thing I thought we did want to change... ...right?
/r/MensRights30/01/19 07:02 PM
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Yeah. It clearly comes down on the side that men have problems... and pathologizing or demonizing masculinity won’t help. Maybe you linked the wrong one?
/r/MensRights26/01/19 09:16 PM
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Stocks are almost exclusively traded by bots anymore. Unless the bots are checking the right related words or YouTube upvote v downvote counts... it just looks like they’re trending... which tells it to buy up. Until something in the numbers tells the bot to bail, anyway. Say, when the backlash actually results in some financial change.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 07:44 PM
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Well said. Let me add- if, perchance, you agree wholeheartedly with Gillette’s take on masculinity, or even just see a need to overhaul restrictive male gender norms & roles... Is it really a good idea for corporations to get to define masculinity? How is that a step in the right direction? What? “The patriarchy set harmful, restrictive gender norms on both men and women, and should be abolished! Let’s have profit-motivated corporations do it instead!” Yeah. Right.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 04:51 PM
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I agree. There is a framing issue though. If I do want to talk about sexual abuse in a non-gendered way... what forum exactly do I have to do that, where the gendered version of the conversation isn’t already happening? I don’t want to dismiss or derail. I want to feel like I’m not being pre-dismissed and pre-derailed before I even start. Cause... that’s sort of what happened. The term “rape culture” was initially coined by men trying to talk about prison rape. They later invited women to the ta…
/r/MensRights07/01/19 09:42 AM
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Here you go. Less an article, and more a weekly half-page advice column... which is like an editorial with less intellectual drive. It’s also one that is deliberately poor and inflammatory, according to it’s own author. Not satire, but not intended to be the best advice. The column is called Work Friend, and the author says “At best, after all, a work friend is someone who says something alien and upsetting and objectionable, forcing you to plumb your own values.” Commentators meanwhile point ou…
/r/MensRights31/12/18 04:22 PM
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Agreed. The thing to stress is that everyone has problems, by and large. There are ways in which men do have it harder than women. This lists those. There are also ways in which women have it harder than men. Those are pretty commonly known, I think.
/r/MensRights30/12/18 04:34 PM
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Not necessarily. The main body of the law specifies a victim age 16-18... but apparently the law is considered a statutory crime, and has been brought to bear with children under age of consent, where the other differences (listed below) apply. Age of consent seems fuzzy in Indiana anyway- with AoC being 16... but only if the other person is under 22? Anyway. The key differences between statutory rape and seduction of a child appear to be the accused’s relationship to the victim- they have to be…
/r/MensRights30/12/18 04:01 PM
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Honestly, the repost is better. The original had a couple on it that were pushing things a bit. Like- enough so that plenty of ppl here were calling it out. This is more focused, too.
/r/MensRights29/12/18 11:18 PM
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Biology almost certainly plays a part, yes... hence why I mentioned it myself. But I don’t think it’s fair to underplay risk-taking behavior and health norms that are learned. It seems obvious to me, at least, that both play a role. After all, when has any human issue ever been simple? I mean... hell. You’re an actuary. Just look at car accident rates. You could make a case for biology, but it’s a stretch for multiple reasons: Data actually suggests testosterone tends towards more emotional extr…
/r/MensRights17/12/18 09:12 PM
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I was also simplifying... perhaps a bit much. The Y-Chromosome has noticeably shrunk over the centuries, which makes our gene expression less stable as we rely more and more on our single copy of the X. It is also more prone to mutation, IIRC.
/r/MensRights17/12/18 09:01 PM
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On average, women live 4-10 years longer than men. It varies by location, and can be somewhat misleading though, so be careful with that statistic. For example, if you make it to 50, your life expectancy is already higher than the average because you’ve already managed to make it past all the guys who died young and drag the average down... Someone in their 20’s has to make it past a lot more accidents and suicidal thoughts and violence to make it to 72 than you do... much less 80. For sure thou…
/r/MensRights17/12/18 04:38 PM
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No argument there. Even if it is pretty blindly worded, you’d have to be truly dense not to know how this would be taken.
/r/MensRights26/11/18 03:18 PM
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Reread the poster: Lifetime rate of violence. Of any kind.
/r/MensRights26/11/18 01:31 PM
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Honestly, marbles in a bag is probably a better example. Given 10 marbles pulled out of an infinite bag, the odds of pulling all blue marbles is pretty low unless you cheat... or the bag is mostly blue marbles. So, bigger samples do provide more certainty, but it’s diminishing returns. 500 people chosen in a truly random fashion gives you pretty good certainty. As an example: If your sampling determine 50% of people were X... a sample of 500 actually says something like “I’m 95% confident that 4…
/r/MensRights14/11/18 03:27 PM
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The sample size is fine... but more studies are always welcome. Assuming a truly random sample (no selection bias), you only need a couple hundred to get valid data. Think of it like this: If you flip 100 randomly chosen quarters, and they come up heads 80 times... there are 4 possible explanations: 1- quarters favor heads in general 2- trick quarters that prefer heads are common 3- trick quarters are rare and your random sample managed to find every single last one of the bastards in circulatio…
/r/MensRights14/11/18 07:28 AM
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The overall disparity in sentences is a bit weird too. The girl with the $500k bail got probation and community service. The one with the $200k bail got 3 years. Both got off way easier than the guys, but... I feel like I need to know more.
/r/MensRights12/11/18 04:44 PM
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It was a joke, but she’s also a pretty terrible person from whom this is ALMOST believable. Example: she was on the senate commission that was involved in investigating sexual assault on campuses. One of the actions she took was sending out a letter and survey that said (among other things) that colleges should do more to encourage women to come forward with their experiences if they wanted to keep their funding. Included among the things she said colleges might do to discourage women from comin…
/r/MensRights07/11/18 04:34 PM
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So, part of what's key here is that lifetime numbers always seem high. Example: roughly 20% of all women will get breast cancer at some point in their life. Does this mean that 20% of all women have it right now? No. And if most of the women you know are under 50, odds are you may not know ANYONE who has breast cancer. Any given year, the number of people experiencing severe DV could be as little as 1-2%, and a 25% lifetime rate is plausible.
/r/MensRights05/10/18 03:36 PM
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I regret working for my last boss. Was I a slave?
/r/MensRights03/10/18 03:11 PM
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The man kinda gets raked over the coals by someone either way, too. If he does change for her- he's whipped, etc.
/r/MensRights20/09/18 06:36 PM
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Speak for yourself. "We" only did this to ourselves if "male controlled congress" = "we". I feel confident that it does not.
/r/MensRights19/09/18 02:54 PM
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It's not just legal, it's protected by federal law as an option.
/r/MensRights07/09/18 05:50 AM
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Strange given how much more invasive, costly, and risky one of those is.
/r/MensRights09/08/18 12:32 AM
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The handful of actual laws on the issue are pretty reasonable and common sense for an elective surgery with lasting consequences (not permanent, but reversal is a bitch). NY has a minimum age, psych review, and waiting period. But there aren't any laws protecting men's reproductive rights either, so if the wife didn't know about it... she can raise hell, legally, over not being informed. Viability of a lawsuit against the doctor is rough to guess at- probably depends a lot on the state, judge, a…
/r/MensRights09/05/18 04:22 AM
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Right. Exactly that. A few states have laws requiring mental soundness and a waiting period (NY is a solid example), but very nearly on par with that for abortions, or other electives in that state. The argument is that it's elective, but a major decision- even if reversible, has significant lasting impact on a major life function (procreation), and shouldn't be undertaken lightly. (NY specifically has a minimum age, psych eval for mental competency, and waiting period.) What I was referencing h…
/r/MensRights09/05/18 04:17 AM
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US too, depending on your state and doctor. (In most states, the law allows the woman to sue the doctor for performing it without her knowledge, so they won't without her permission.)
/r/MensRights08/05/18 07:44 PM
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Right- but I assume they vary a bit by office, and I'm curious to see the guts of this one.
/r/MensRights25/04/18 01:23 PM
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Any chance we could get a link or full scan?
/r/MensRights25/04/18 05:43 AM
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Thanks. Even if you're right (and perhaps I'm just too much an optimist to admit it)- I'd still rather do everything in my power to slow that crash. Because then at least we will have tried not to commit the same sins we're angry at them for committing.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 10:16 PM
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And I'm telling you that the "fuck it, we can't stop a few extremists from getting in so we may as well not even bother" mentality is turning potential recruits away. For all we criticize feminism- the root cause of everything we complain about comes down to them not policing themselves very well... after decades of that, you have the fuzzy boundaries and definitions, the rad-fems and NAFALT, and on and on. All of that came from them losing focus, and failing to police their own. And now I'm see…
/r/MensRights16/04/18 04:57 PM
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Whenever you're posting or sharing an idea from someone that you know is bloodstained in your audience's eyes - or the general public's eyes... maybe take that into account. Realize that you now have a lot of people watching who won't be able to hear the message because of the messenger. And that if you care about the message more than the messenger, you can either let your message fail... Or do something to help get their attention back on the message where it belongs. In this instance, it woul…
/r/MensRights15/04/18 11:25 PM
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Objectively, the idea matters. People aren't very objective as a rule though... so depending on who you're talking to, you might need to remind them of that. That's what I've been saying this whole bloody thread, but apparently, suggesting that maybe some members of your audience might need a reminder to focus on the message rather than the messenger is just... asking too much?
/r/MensRights15/04/18 11:18 PM
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I think you need to look up the definition of censorship. I'm not stopping you from saying anything- I'm pointing out that you could be more successful by saying more... But hey. Whatever. I'd also be super-impressed by that subscriber count if I thought it meant much of anything. Polling on the internet is grossly unreliable, and subscriber accounts on a free platform doubly so. Meanwhile, if we do treat it as important, it still just tells me that the message is succeeding less than feminism's…
/r/MensRights15/04/18 05:57 PM
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Here's a question- do you want to talk about these issues, or do you want to be heard? I'm asking honestly, because it matters. Is your goal to get the message out and raise awareness and change things, or just to bitch? Cause if you just want to bitch, then fine. I am genuinely wasting my time. But if you want the message to be heard, then... yes, how you pitch it matters. You have an idea for where you want them to end up on a given issue, and that's cool... but if you don't know where they're…
/r/MensRights15/04/18 05:37 PM
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All of them. Just kidding. I mean, you seem to have this very specific idea of what I stand for, why would I ruin that for you? I didn't say don't post him talking about real, good issues. It just might be in our best interests to make sure we've put a disclaimer on that we don't appreciate his racist remarks (which are a matter of record, and for which he is currently famous), lest someone use this as an excuse to label the movement by extension, by his inclusion... Which, you know, is wrong of…
/r/MensRights15/04/18 05:26 PM
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Right. Fuck PR then. I mean, if the only people we want to hear our message are eachother, what's the point?
/r/MensRights15/04/18 05:14 PM
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It's not about censorship or about appeasing the left. It's about not giving our opponents too many opportunities to say "See? We told you they were just bigots. We were right, they're just a hate group." And for reals- we seize every opportunity to scream and cry and rant whenever anyone who calls themselves a feminist says something we think is bigoted- so if fair is fair... we'd either better be prepared for them to return the favor (only with a better platform, demonizing us far more success…
/r/MensRights15/04/18 04:30 PM
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Right, but for all we try to hold feminism accountable for bad actors, we need to be super careful about who we make our mascots, right?
/r/MensRights15/04/18 05:49 AM
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Sources on which part? The FBI and CDC definitions? Georgia's batshit law?
/r/MensRights02/04/18 01:34 PM
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Depends on the state. Most of them have done away with rape laws entirely, switching to sexual assault laws explicitly because of this (primarily because of pressure over LGBT inclusion). A few states still have rape laws on the books, though, that definitely exclude MtP, and (depending on the judge) may exclude even other forms. Georgia is a good example of this, where Rape (which carries a 20 yr min and possibility of the death penalty) explicitly excludes male victims or female offenders. MtP…
/r/MensRights01/04/18 10:34 PM
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We have plenty of inactivists, sure. So does feminism. How many people call themselves feminist vs how many donate money to stop sex trafficking? How many vote their ideals vs how many wrote letters to their congressional rep every month? How many show up for the occasional rally vs how many volunteer at shelters? As for the specific case listed of prison rape- feminism hasn't done shit. Maybe there's some documented action on their part against it, but they've largely turned a blind eye to it..…
/r/MensRights19/03/18 01:54 PM
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Maybe it's time to go through that same thread and tag her on every one of those stories, along with her own quote. (Some disclaimer that you disagree with her maybe necessary.)
/r/MensRights19/03/18 01:46 PM
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Appears to still be on the books: 14-33(C)(2) (c) Unless the conduct is covered under some other provision of law providing greater punishment, any person who commits any assault, assault and battery, or affray is guilty of a class A1 misdemeanor if, in the course of the assault, assault and battery, or affray, he or she: (1) Inflicts serious injury on another person or used a deadly weapon (2) Assaults a female, he being a male person at least 18 years of age (3) Assaults a child under age 12 (…
/r/MensRights20/02/18 09:43 PM
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This seems to be correct. I can't find anything specifically addressing this, but it lines up with the legal age of consent in Iceland, and requirements for patient consent on cosmetic surgery.
/r/MensRights13/02/18 07:47 PM
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The breakdown of types of FGM in this article are... only loosely correct. Type 1a is removal of the clitoral hood only Type 1b is removal of the clitoris Type 2a is removal of the labia minora Type 2b is removal of the labia minora and clitoris Type 2c is removal of the labia majora and clitoris Type 3a is the sealing of the labia minora Type 3b is the sealing of the labia majora Type 4 is everything else 1 is nowhere near equivalent to the removal of the testicles- 3 is. 1a is (roughly) equiva…
/r/MensRights10/09/17 05:55 AM
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Good Bot.
/r/MensRights07/09/17 04:30 PM
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PASK? I seem to be missing it too XD
/r/MensRights01/09/17 01:00 AM
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Full props to u/imnotmrabut for the full version. They did study female on male violence as well... Even better, the study references several others, with, among other things, this gem: 26-33% of gay men, 32-44% of lesbians, 9-29% of heterosexual men and 20-35% of heterosexual women have experienced IPV. They do specify violence, not just abuse- so they're restricting to physical abuse. Broadening to emotional abuse provides the skew we're more familiar with where female abusers outnumber male a…
/r/MensRights01/09/17 12:16 AM
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To be clear...Canada had: 161 male teen suicides in 2003, which has dropped to 101 in 2013. 55 female teen suicides in 2003, which has risen to 66 in 2013. Those numbers boggle my mind 3 different ways. 1- I wouldn't be surprised if NY has more teen suicides by itself. 2- overall, suicide has gone down for all teens, by about 1/3 in a decade. (1&2: what is Canada doing right, jeez?!?) 3- the sample sizes are so small a change of 20 would be hard to find statistically significant... much less 11.…
/r/MensRights11/07/17 05:39 AM
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Starter Pack of sources A couple of the links are dead, but you can find them on google. The largest of those links is a meta-study with a sample size of 371,400 couples. Findings vary somewhat from what he described, but are consistently in that ballpark. And this data isn't new, nor is the problem recent. Gender parity in DV traces back to the 70's at least... and while DV has been gradually decreasing for women, it's been gradually increasing for men. I have more sources here, too... includin…
/r/MensRights27/06/17 01:35 PM
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I am also very seriously confused by the Top 1000 voters. ~2600 votes with an average of 8.8 ~1600 votes were 10, over 2000 votes were 9+, leaving only 600 votes 8 or under... Yet, the top 100 manage an average of only 7.2? Holy crap that's some skew.
/r/MensRights22/05/17 03:05 PM
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Yeah. The claim on it that gets the most circulation has no real data behind it, because it supposedly got scrapped so fast. That said, I've found a couple older research papers that back it up, that have no direct connection to anti-circ as a movement. I'll see if I can dig them up for you.
/r/MensRights12/04/17 03:42 AM
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100-200 deaths a year in the US, in sterile conditions, under medical care. In Africa, circumcisions are often performed by angry mobs in ditches, with whatever knife they can get.
/r/MensRights11/04/17 06:24 PM
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The evidence for the brain damage is, admittedly, limited. Before and after MRI's show that parts of the brain commonly associated with pain, emotional processing, empathy and communication get overloaded and go dark for a while- and seemingly never fully recovering. We need to know more. To answer your question though - I'm not a doctor, much less a developmental brain expert, but based on what I've read, I wouldn't expect a connection to IQ.
/r/MensRights11/04/17 06:22 PM
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Sexual assault would apply to female-on-male... as it only requires sexual touching and is gender-neutral. The violation has a maximum 5 year sentence however. Aggravated sexual assault exists, but in Georgia requires penetration of the victim with an object.
/r/MensRights02/04/17 04:27 PM
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Rape is explicitly defined as follows: A person commits the offense of rape when he has carnal knowledge of: A female forcibly and against her will; or A female who is less than ten years of age. Carnal knowledge in rape occurs when there is any penetration of the female sex organ by the male sex organ. Sentence is minimum 25 years without parole, up to life. Death penalty possible. Sodomy meanwhile is gender neutral, but illegal even if consensual: A person commits the offense of sodomy when he…
/r/MensRights02/04/17 07:40 AM
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Just gonna say, based entirely on the sexual assault laws, Georgia, no contest.
/r/MensRights01/04/17 09:13 PM
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TL/DR- you lose 40% of the nerve endings in your penis, the thing that protects another 40% from overstimulation and keratinization, suffer permanent brain damage, and increase STD transmission over a 5-yr window, all to reduce STD transmission over a 1-yr window and prevent two treatable diseases that affect basically no one. 1- it contains 40% of the pleasure sensitive nerve tissue in the penis (another 40% in the glans, 20% spread out everywhere else). Most notably, this nerve tissue is also …
/r/MensRights22/03/17 08:50 PM
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Edit: less angry. TIL: being drugged and forced to have unprotected sex with a woman I barely knew and strongly disliked (for a variety of reasons), because she thought a child molestation survivor like me needed help "loosening up" so I could have "fun" reliving that... is no more traumatic than a slap on the ass. Thanks. I instantly feel better both about my trauma, and my place in the world. I can only hope you forgive me for being upset that I was abused, and that my initial reaction doesn't…
/r/MensRights21/03/17 04:22 AM
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My family was homeless for several months when unemployment hit peak in the 90's. Despite having degrees, neither of them could find a job that paid the rent. We were lucky enough to land in a shelter that had room for a whole family... and to qualify for housing assistance just as the our time limit at the shelter came up. I was just a kid, and we were among the lucky ones. Still, we were homeless... and dad worked every damn day, often 10-12 hours a day, just like before... only now, with no r…
/r/MensRights21/03/17 02:21 AM
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Presumably a library. Maybe a YMCA or shelter. The homeless population is highly variable. Chronic homelessness is defined as being homeless for more than a year, or temporarily homeless for the 4th time in 3 years... and it's relatively uncommon compared to short-term homelessness. The US Department of Housing and Urban Development estimates 2,000,000 homeless per year... but only about 112,000 fit the definition of chronic homelessness. Far more accurate local studies suggest it's a bit higher…
/r/MensRights20/03/17 08:29 PM
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I dunno. They seem to say (literally) that it's hard to talk about suicide. Even if they are saying that men don't talk, they aren't saying why. Could be, they recognize that men don't talk because society (as a whole, women included) is hostile to open male emotion, and they want to help fix that. Could be, they recognize that men don't talk because there aren't any outlets for them to, and they want to help fix that. Could be, you're assuming the worst and over-reacting to your own negative as…
/r/MensRights08/03/17 02:54 PM
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You're correct, and if I knew of a good (and free / public access) database for that... That would be fantastic. Best I could do was look up some of his more publicized cases, and he seems to favor harsh sentences as a rule... but the sample size is small, and the cases being so publicized means he may have been under pressure to make an example of someone. For example, a vehicular manslaughter case where 2 people died, resulted in an 18-36 year sentence... when it was appealed on the grounds of…
/r/MensRights07/03/17 09:59 PM
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Put another way, while it was intended to affect the worst of the worst, it's wildly onerous and still unduly affects a significant number of people it shouldn't. Also, recidivism rates are partly the fault of systems like this... particularly, parole laws. Multiple studies have linked addiction to trauma, life crisis, and isolation... 20% of US soldiers in Vietnam used heroine... of those 95% just plain stopped when they returned home. There is a physical component to addiction, obviously, but …
/r/MensRights07/03/17 08:34 PM
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True... may merit more research later, as I'd love to find a resource on individual judge's rulings/histories anyway... but a quick 10m search finds several significant cases where he seems to be pretty severe (he rejected an appeal on grounds of unduly severe sentencing in a vehicular manslaughter case that earned 18-36 years prison, for example). Not sure. Sample size too small, transparency on these things insufficient for my tastes, to boot.
/r/MensRights07/03/17 08:18 PM
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Well... first, here are the laws she broke, and the ones she pled guilty to. Current Pennsylvania State Statutes The matrices on sentencing guidelines are hard to read, but [here](www.pacode.com/secure/data/204/chapter303/chap303toc.html) 3124.2 - Institutional Sexual Assault is a 3rd Degree Felony, maximum sentence 7yrs 6301 - Corruption of Minors is a 1st Degree Misdemeanor, maximum sentence 5 years Assuming no prior record (at least, nothing but traffic tickets): The minimum sentence for the …
/r/MensRights07/03/17 07:05 PM
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This might be a reasonable sentence as long as it's fully carried out... probation and sex offender registry are no joke. Sex offender registry is arguably a human rights violation anyway- considering you can get it for non-sexual acts, and it permanently restricts a number of very basic freedoms... shit. As a rule, I'm against any punishments that can haunt a person well after they've reformed (if they do). It it not, however, an equal sentence, and that's a problem.
/r/MensRights07/03/17 05:35 PM
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So, here's the thing. We used to be proud of the fact we police our own. It's one of the things that makes us better than feminism, who will just let anyone take up their banner and scramble around afterwards to NAFALT. It lets us keep our focus where we want it. We don't need intersectionality because we don't care what race you are, if you're cis, het, gay or trans... because it's the issues, not the labels, that we care about... if they affect you, then we've got your back. If they don't- it'…
/r/MensRights22/02/17 05:49 PM
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Yet they seem content to lump all MRA/MGTOW/TRP/PUA together under a single banner.
/r/MensRights03/01/17 03:58 PM
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TIL: 2=9
/r/MensRights16/11/16 06:33 PM
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Yes, this is EXACTLY what they did. They compared admission rates for 2015 vs 2014. They are taking the difference in two data points one year apart, ignoring noise, and then projecting 18 years into the future. Yep. Only 2 years: 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015. I mean, if they'd gone back 9 years, maybe they'd have something, but since they only went back every year to 2006, bupkis, am I right? /s Jeez, man... did you even read the full report before you decided …
/r/MensRights16/11/16 06:33 PM
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I don't think you understand how they mapped the data. They didn't say "well, it was 25%, and now it's 50%, so next must be 75% then eventually 200%." The linear projection was mapped on to raw attendance numbers, not rates. Now, as a rule, linear projections are always wrong outside a vacuum... few things happen in a vacuum, and enough forces (physical and social) operate in a non-linear way, and will at least "spoil" those few that do. Acceleration due to gravity is linear, but friction isn't,…
/r/MensRights16/11/16 07:07 AM
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She wants to do away with all science so we can rediscover everything from our own perspectives? 1- she is saying this in a room lit by electric lights, while being digitally filmed. Irony. 2- dibs on rediscovering Newtonian mechanics. 3- dibs on rediscovering Relativity. 4- if dibs are also to be done away with, fine. It's a race, and I have a head start on account of having some really neat ideas about everything being energy expressing itself in a sort of a... we'll call it a field... even ma…
/r/MensRights15/10/16 09:09 AM
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The law also doesn't detail what level of intoxication results in incapacitation... For good or ill.
/r/MensRights04/10/16 01:53 PM
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I have a local informal support group that's been going for a year or two now. We don't meet very regularly, but I'm hoping to begin to grow... in my home city, and beyond. This... is the platform. I plan on taking it live on Monday if at all possible... but am showing you guys first in the hopes of some input, and even constructive criticism. The stuff I'm mostly looking for: Does the site look good? Does it read well? Did I make any editing mistakes I need to correct right now? Are there any o…
/r/MensRights02/10/16 06:22 AM
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As the other guy said- yes, the cops are mostly men... But the policies and training are based on Duluth, which was written by a team of prominent feminists, and is maintained because of social pressure from feminists. And since you mention prison... The Crown Judiciary committee (an official government body) in New Zealand recently recommended that jury trials be abolished in all sexual crimes against women. The Women's Equality Party in the UK, along with several other dominantly, openly femin…
/r/MensRights27/08/16 05:50 PM
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nobody ... is going to listen to shrieking voices. Fighting fire with fire only leads to everybody getting burned. The posture I'm seeing here is identical to the posture I've seen over there. At some point you've gotta drop your guns and figure out the path. You are, I think, absolutely correct here. However, we're frankly scared to lower our guns, because the last few times we've done, we've gotten shot. Others here have gone on and on about how feminism ignores us, demonizes us, demands that …
/r/MensRights27/08/16 04:08 PM
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Guards and staff committed half of all prison rapes according to the DoJ's own annual report. Nearly 10% of all inmates report being raped... But given prison culture (chance of a successful allegation, power dynamics, attitudes towards narcs) the DoJ thinks the rate is probably much, much higher. Various studies have found rates around 21% overall, and as high as 7% per year in the US. In juvenile detention centers 90% of victims of staff abuse identified their abuser as female. This is backed …
/r/MensRights19/08/16 09:13 PM
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Male circumcision does not reduce women's risk of getting HIV from a male. In fact, it seems to increase their risk. By a lot, according to John-Hopkins. And increases risk for both partners homosexual men. Between 18-20.2% of clinical circumcisions and 35% of ritual circumcisions in Africa result in serious infections or other complications. Even in clinical trials with regular medical care for the circumcised individual, the overall reduction in HIV was at most 0.66% over a 2 year period, with…
/r/MensRights16/08/16 11:19 PM
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Or maybe if it's epidemic in 3rd world countries, it's due to poverty: lack of hygiene, sex Ed, and readily available condoms. Correlation does not equal causation.
/r/MensRights16/08/16 01:18 PM
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What the other guy said- but if you read the full report, while it reduces risk of men getting HIV from 0.04 to 0.02, the studies that show that are deeply flawed. Namely, they're all 1-yr benchmarks against a control group that didn't even get sex Ed. So, when you take one group of men, and give them condoms, sex Ed, and surgically alter their junk in such a way as they can't have sex at all for several months... After a year, they show a lower rate of HIV... And you assume it's because the cir…
/r/MensRights16/08/16 01:14 PM
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They register on average 4 years younger, vote more regularly, and live longer.
/r/MensRights16/08/16 01:05 PM
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Awful as she is, in this instance, she's reporting on a recommendation that the NZ Judicial committee (an official crown body) made... So, not just her.
/r/MensRights15/08/16 01:19 PM
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If it makes you feel any better, this is $13M over a 4yr period... Their spending on female victims was $147M in 2015-2016 (a 2-yr period) and this additional funding for men comes in with a doubling of their funding for women. So, $300M/2yrs for women vs $13M/4yrs for men... ...is $150M/yr for women vs $3.25M/yr for men... Or 2%. In other words, just enough to say they're supporting gay men who are abused by other men.
/r/MensRights12/08/16 03:36 PM
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AlwaysBelieve guys.
/r/MensRights12/08/16 12:24 AM
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Worst analogy ever... For one reason. He said no. I don't think anyone here thinks a drunken no = yes. What we argue about most of the time is intoxicated yes's... How intoxicated is too intoxicated, and how an intoxicated man is supposed to tell it apart from one that isn't too far gone, and so on.
/r/MensRights01/08/16 11:17 PM
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You mean like this will ruin yours? Shit man. Your ass is out there in the ether- at least 2 people have pics... The girl who obviously doesn't care for your privacy, and the guy who wants you and won't take no for an answer. How hard would it be for that number to go up? For one of them to share it again, out of spite, when the guy finally gets it in his head that you're not into him, or the girl decides the joke's even funnier with more people in on it? How do you know it hasn't already happen…
/r/MensRights01/08/16 06:20 PM
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Bright side- they have a similar survey for checking if you're abused... Right after it in the self-assessment area. But having them like that is just... Well. Potentially offensive, potentially damaging (gas-lighting). How many women's shelters ask the woman if she's not sure she's abusive? How long would any women's shelter last if they did?
/r/MensRights01/08/16 06:10 PM
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And... So... What? Almost doesn't mean much. And physical strength is hardly the only form of personal power... Hell, it's not even close.
/r/MensRights31/07/16 08:12 AM
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Nerve quantity isn't the only important factor. On nerve density, the clitoris has anything that isn't the clitoris beat, pretty handily. That said, there's also nerve type to consider: while the foreskin contains some 40% of the penis' nerve endings... It also contains almost all of the fine detail sensitive ones.
/r/MensRights31/07/16 08:10 AM
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There's little or no extra info to be found. None of the other stories say anything about the girl- beyond that, apparently, she had the pic for close to a year, and had been holding it over his head (bullying him and threatening to post it if he did anything about it) for several months. The theme in most articles is nauseating, even as a Christian myself... Forgiveness is well and good... But this ventures into some ugly territory, fast: The father stressing how the picture was inappropriate f…
/r/MensRights25/07/16 09:27 PM
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Supply and demand affects workforces too. The gold decoupling almost certainly was a factor, but the total stagnation of the average wage times better with the suddenly larger workforce.
/r/MensRights22/07/16 06:59 AM
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But this is also an opportunity to increase awareness and support for both... By pointing out that all men have a stake in BLM, and that bias of any kind is the enemy here.
/r/MensRights22/07/16 06:57 AM
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The meat of what you said has merit, so... Upvote. That said... If like to point out that anger can be a stopping point on the route to healing (hell- it's one of the classical stages of grief for a reason)... Getting stuck there isn't healthy, but... Anger itself isn't a bad thing, it's how you use it. It's a hammer- nothing more. A tool: For me, my anger is motivation to build what I lacked. For others, to tear down what held them back. A weapon: some do lash out. I won't say they don't. This …
/r/MensRights19/07/16 05:09 AM
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I'd say 1 out of every 8 or 9 is a dud. What's worse is that another 1 out of every 8 or 9 is an instant migraine that puts me out of commission for the rest of the day.
/r/MensRights07/07/16 04:30 PM
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I think because I got an erection it was as if my own body was betraying me; not only couldn't I control the situation or what this woman did to me, I couldn't even control how I myself responded to it. To this day, I still think that's the worst part of all of it. At least, it was for me. You're not alone though... And even if it's slow... You can heal.
/r/MensRights26/06/16 07:51 AM
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So... Yeah. Sure. I mean, it's sort of a drama in 4 parts, not a single story, but hey. I don't mind sharing. I was molested by a babysitter when I was 6 or 7. Her mother walked in on us... I barely remember it, but... Between that and some private Christian schooling my parents ended up regretting, I grew up with a sense of intense shame associated with anything sexual- including private desires. The girl... Well. No real consequences, that I know of. I mean... I was 7, so maybe she was grounde…
/r/MensRights26/06/16 07:39 AM
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The worry is more likely that an accused student will sue Harvard for providing free counseling to the accuser when there's been no ruling, because the accuser sees that as taking sides.
/r/MensRights18/06/16 09:50 PM
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Not sure if enough people are spouting it off... But by misreading it, or reading into it, we're hardly doing ourselves any favors then, are we? Best case scenario, we're drawing more attention to it when you say drawing attention to it is the problem... Worst case, if we oppose the statement, we look exactly like the media portrays us.
/r/MensRights18/06/16 08:47 AM
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Sure- why not?
/r/MensRights18/06/16 08:37 AM
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Therapists aren't- I mean, it's kind of a dumb decision to make, career wise. However, there are some few people out here who are saying that therapists should turn them away, because providing support validates their side of the story without any proof. (I've run into a couple in this sub, but they're uncommon, so... Meh. Also, we do a good job policing our own for the most part.) Harvard is saying that that's bullshit, because proof only matters for justice-seeking, not recovery-seeking. And I…
/r/MensRights17/06/16 04:46 AM
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And note: their statement doesn't say anything about "female victims." Just "victims" (defined elsewhere so as to cover alleged victims).
/r/MensRights17/06/16 04:40 AM
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They aren't contradictory: The first statement is about therapists refusing services. The second statement is about people (which, unless all people are therapists, includes some people not covered by the first statement) who say therapists should refuse services because it validates the crime. This is indeed a silencing tactic, and a dumb one, since it presumes a connection that doesn't exist. As for it being a straw man- well. Still no. They're saying that if someone says that it's wrong. For …
/r/MensRights17/06/16 04:38 AM
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They didn't specify that anyone involved in those services are using it to deny services. They're saying that some people (as in people, in general) seem to think that there's a conflict when there is none- between presumptive innocence and support services. If there were such conflict, we'd have a problem. But there isn't. At worst, providing an accuser with those services gives society an impression of validating her claim... But that's society's fault for being unable to distinguish between j…
/r/MensRights16/06/16 08:42 PM
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Unpopular opinion time... If you bother to actually read what Harvard said, and not just the headline... They're right. Here's what they said, TL/DR version: "Innocent until proven guilty" is a critically important part of our justice system... Doubly so for those who face bias in the criminal justice system. It can be used outside of the justice system to silence victims, however, when used to prevent access to counseling and other systems meant to support and protect potential trauma victims. …
/r/MensRights16/06/16 04:04 PM
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Several states have legally defined "victim" as meaning "someone who alleges a crime to have taken place" or similar... So they're not wrong to follow that definition here... We just need to remind people on all sides that "alleged" is in there.
/r/MensRights16/06/16 04:04 PM
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Unpopular opinion time... If you bother to actually read what Harvard said, and not just the headline... They're right. Here's what they said, TL/DR version: "Innocent until proven guilty" is a critically important part of our justice system... Doubly so for those who face bias in the criminal justice system. It can be used outside of the justice system to silence victims, however, when used to prevent access to counseling and other systems meant to support and protect potential trauma victims. …
/r/MensRights16/06/16 04:02 PM
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Yeah. I'd call that exchange a win. They accepted your point and revised theirs to suit. Done. Good job.
/r/MensRights05/06/16 10:08 AM
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Technically, yes... But I think the general, arbitrary age limit works far more often than it fails, and is a net-positive rule of thumb.
/r/MensRights04/06/16 08:32 PM
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Ish. They'll be tried as a minor, and held responsible-light. Much lighter sentence, chance of no jail time if first offense, no permanent record, etc. If they're tried as an adult, it's because a judge took the time to make the exception- to gauge that particular person's maturity level, and decide the arbitrary age of responsibility doesn't apply to them. Which sounds like we already do exactly what you're asking for. Age of maturity and consent are the same... And we make occasional exception…
/r/MensRights04/06/16 07:08 PM
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An intox confession shouldn't be admissible, but a refusal to test would be hard to throw out on the basis that it's a binary. Either they test you or you refuse to be tested. They can't throw it out and change history, so... I dunno. Maybe it being DUI- and intoxication being a primary factor in guilt- also affects it... If you were indeed too intoxicated to have legally confessed, you were also too intoxicated to drive, and are thus automatically guilty. Generally though, plenty of confessions…
/r/MensRights04/06/16 07:01 PM
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Agreed on all points. I'm just generally aggravated by the idea that age of consent is entirely arbitrary... It is, but it's also meaningful in the sense that it's related to responsibility. Being below age of consent is also a protection from being held responsible for your actions... Claiming that any given boy is old enough to consent is a two-edged sword that most forget.
/r/MensRights04/06/16 03:23 PM
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Actually, that's why they're recorded, and many are thrown out if the confessor feels like they we're under duress, and the video gives any impression of that. It's one of the first things a good defense attorney looks at.
/r/MensRights04/06/16 03:20 PM
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Their ability to be held responsible for their actions. Consent and responsibility are tied together, legally. You can't be held to contracts signed while intoxicated, or under duress... And often not prosecuted for crimes committed under duress. If he's mature enough to consent, he's mature enough to be responsible for the decision. Given that she got pregnant, and only aborted because the it was illegal, and she was scared of getting in trouble... Grant him the legal ability to consent, and sh…
/r/MensRights04/06/16 07:29 AM
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Legally, consent is tied to responsibility. You can't be held to a contract signed while intoxicated, or under duress. Hell, you can't be held responsible for some crimes committed under duress. Age of consent is arbitrary, but so is age of legal responsibility for one's own actions. If the kid was mature enough to be able to consent... Then she didn't break the law. She got pregnant. She got scared of getting caught and had an abortion, but if this had been legal... Would she have? If the kid w…
/r/MensRights04/06/16 07:22 AM
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She got pregnant. She aborted- but not because she didn't want kids... She aborted because she got spooked... this was illegal and she was afraid of getting caught. Did he consent to that, too? Just to be clear- yes, age of consent is arbitrary, but so is age of legal responsibility... And that's not an accident. The two are tied to eachother. You can't be held to a contract signed while intoxicated, or under duress (and even some crimes committed under duress)... Consent = responsibility. Keepi…
/r/MensRights04/06/16 07:14 AM
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By any measure? Sure. By some measures certainly, we could. We can't just ask if someone consented- we have to ask if they were able to give valid consent... And in a power dynamic, say, that between a 25yo law enforcement officer and 16yo kid in juvie... Well. There you go. Consensual, but is not and should not be legal, because the consent is at the very very very best... Questionable. Also, this case is a 13yo kid, with a 24+yo woman, who was his teacher, and who got pregnant. Now, she spooke…
/r/MensRights04/06/16 07:10 AM
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I agree. It just seems like society and the media doesn't care. If she's good looking, they call male victims lucky... If she's not good looking, now they say he's being pressured into regretting it.
/r/MensRights01/06/16 09:09 PM
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So, if a guy is sexually assaulted: If she's good looking, we should be so lucky. If she's not good looking, we're the problem.
/r/MensRights01/06/16 03:24 PM
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Same, re: that tiny bit of extra skin. It's actually the most sensitive spot on my penis, thanks in part to a fingernail-sized scar on the head, just to on side of the urethral. Such scars aren't rare, but not quite common either, and technically type II even if accidental. Generally speaking, I'd compare a well performed (no scarring or infection, etc) circumcision to FGM Ia and IIa... i.e. Removal of the clitoral good and labia, while leaving the clitoris fully intact. The foreskin performs th…
/r/MensRights25/05/16 04:38 AM
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MGM also has multiple classifications, although you won't find them in the CDC's literature. Type I – excision or injury of part or all of the skin and specialized mucosal tissues of the penis including the prepuce and frenulum (circumcision, dorsal slit without closure). Type II – excision or injury to the glans (glandectomy) and/or penis shaft, (penectomy) along with Type I MGM. Any procedure that interferes with reproductive or sexual function in the adult male. Type III – excision or destruc…
/r/MensRights25/05/16 01:29 AM
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LOL climate models are not extrapolations. They are based on the physics of the atmosphere, the biology of plants, the activity of the sun, and the present activities of humans. All of which are, in your own words, just lines some idiot drew through some points on a graph. Multiple lines, through multiple graphs, which combine to draw one picture... But still. Everything in physics is predictive, and predictive algorithms are what you're attacking. You can't have it both ways. Either predicting …
/r/MensRights25/05/16 12:53 AM
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1- I'm trying to describe what's legally possible without a full blown, blood in the streets revolution, nothing more. Unfortunately, if you want to stop Jewish circumcision, you've either got to change the Torah or the Constitution. 2- yes. There are clear limits on what religious practices are and are not allowed. A cannibal cult with a religious duty to make human sacrifices wouldn't last long claiming 1st amendment rights. (Unless their sacrifices were willing, anyway... Then maybe.) But eve…
/r/MensRights24/05/16 09:48 PM
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Mrs. Freud? Is that you?
/r/MensRights21/05/16 05:01 PM
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In the US, it would take a court case going to the SCOTUS... In theory. Of course, any law about it will need to make space for first amendment religious freedom. That said, strictly speaking, only Judaism requires circumcision. For everyone else, it's a cultural choice, not a religious mandate. (For Muslims, it's a grey area... The hadiths of a given sect may be treated by that sect as religious mandate, but they are absolutely not holy texts. For Christians, the issue of mandatory circumcision…
/r/MensRights20/05/16 09:59 PM
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It is propaganda. The news article? No shit, Sherlock. Of course it fucking is. The published journal the article refers to? Is a scholarly article, and is as justified in the predictions it makes as any scholarly review. This "looking backwards at the data and extrapolating forwards" method of yours is not science. Ok then. Global climate change isn't anything to worry about. Moore's Law's predictions have been accurate for longer than you've been alive... But so what? And physics? None of it i…
/r/MensRights15/05/16 06:45 AM
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No. They aren't. Where did you get that idea? The article even mentions 2012 and 2007... Last I checked, that's more than one year. I could be wrong though. The ARTICLE only mentions those, but if you actually read the research paper, it includes over 50 distinct data points going back to 1920 (the earlier data points coincide with census data, and are intermittent. It starts being bi-annual in the 80's, and annual in the late 00's). 2- no one would've made this prediction 4 decades ago, because…
/r/MensRights14/05/16 05:57 PM
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Not really. The data goes back just over 4 decades. Extrapolating forward 1 decade is perfectly reasonable, as long as everyone involved realizes it's an extrapolation. Which they do, because the article said so. They didn't say it like it was written in stone- they said "if the trend of the last 4 decades continues..." I mean... You do realize the economy runs on extrapolations, right? If a trend is linear for 4 decades... Then predicting it continues is rational. In this case though, the trend…
/r/MensRights14/05/16 03:18 PM
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Perhaps this particular extrapolation is... Yet, we're already looking at an average 60/40 split in Europe and the US. Here's someone who took a deeper look at the data, so he could accurately render it graphically. He took 5 sources, each peer reviewed, each containing multiple data points, each going back decades to look for an overall trend. He also looked at level of education (separating masters and PhD) and race, because why not? You're already looking at the data. More to your satisfactio…
/r/MensRights12/05/16 04:29 PM
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The tough thing is... You might be able to help break through to the girls who are doing this (and don't get me wrong, that's huge... The other comments here are right), but you may not be well equipped to help the guys, if it's an issue of being emasculated. It has always seemed to me (and I'm prepared to be wrong here)... That girls grow into womanhood. Boys do not... We're granted manhood. By other men. We never really believe we made it otherwise. At some point, we have to have someone who w…
/r/MensRights09/05/16 12:55 AM
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My god those laws are awful. More than just the rape one. 16-5-27: Female genital mutilation (5-20 yrs) No mention of make genital mutilation of any kind- by the books, castration might qualify as child abuse (1-10 yrs), but lesser mutilations performed for cultural or religious reasons are legal, so long as the victim is male. 16-6-23: Publication of name or identity of Female raped or sexually assaulted (misdemeanor) It's illegal to publish the name of any female who may have been raped or ass…
/r/MensRights05/05/16 04:29 PM
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Sentencing guidelines for misdemeanor are: -Fine up to $1,000 -Up to 12 months county jail -Fine and up to 12 months county jail -Up to 12 months in state institution As a "misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature," the guidelines suggest option 3 or 4. So, on first offense, the maximum sentence for Sexual Battery is 1 year... Not 1-5. Otherwise- you're correct.
/r/MensRights05/05/16 04:01 PM
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Bonus points for including a link to a service that seems to actually serve men in that area.
/r/MensRights04/05/16 03:28 PM
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Oh, for fuck's sake. Since you can't be bothered to scroll up and read my posts, here... Line by line, addressing your point. Again. For the 23rd time. The overwhelming majority of rape claims are from someone they personally knew. Yes. You're right. I already knew this. If such a large percentage of those are being found false, then it's very, very doubtful that they are not deliberate and knowingly false rape accusations against specific individuals known to them beforehand. In which case the …
/r/MensRights03/05/16 04:14 PM
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Oh, for fuck's sake. Since you can't be bothered to scroll up and read my posts, here... Line by line, addressing your point. Again. For the 23rd time. The overwhelming majority of rape claims are from someone they personally knew. Yes. You're right. I already knew this. If such a large percentage of those are being found false, then it's very, very doubtful that they are not deliberate and knowingly false rape accusations against specific individuals known to them beforehand. In which case the …
/r/MensRights03/05/16 04:11 PM
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I already addressed them, and you're still claiming I didn't? Seems like a false accusation, there, buddy.
/r/MensRights03/05/16 01:07 PM
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Done. Read any of my posts. Like, seriously. Any of them.
/r/MensRights03/05/16 12:59 PM
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Yes. I did. "I'm not talking about what you're talking about." "What you're talking about happens. But it's not the only kind of false accusation, and it's not the only type of false accusation in the study, thus, my original statement- that the OP title is misleading, since it refers to all false accusations as lies, when at least some are not- stands." "I would go so far as to say most are not, but that's ancillary to my point. I only need to prove one case to be right... You need to prove all…
/r/MensRights03/05/16 12:30 PM
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See previous posts where I addressed what you said, and you ignored it in order to maintain your sense of self-righteousness.
/r/MensRights02/05/16 02:13 PM
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I addressed it. I told you that I acknowledged some cases are what you describe, but not all. But. Not. All. That is the entirety of my point. The whole damn thing, in a single sentence. I've said it repeatedly, and you ignore it, and you continue to oppose my view. Which means, you think "yes, all." Which means, you don't care what the studies in the OP say... They say whatever you want them to. Which means you're exactly the kind of MRA that gives the rest of us a bad name. Troll, conflict jun…
/r/MensRights02/05/16 05:10 AM
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My original statement (summarized, but you can scroll up to verify): OP title is misleading. Study actually discusses all forms of false accusation, not just lies. Your reply (again, summarized): The majority of claims are against people the accuser knows, so they have to be deliberate lies, because it's dumb to think otherwise. Me: I'm not just talking about mistaken identity. I'm also talking about remembering something that never happened. Provides supporting evidence for this happening very …
/r/MensRights02/05/16 02:14 AM
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Even the Geneva Convention on forced labor (which created the standard, international legal definition of slavery) singles out the draft and prison labor as being ok. It acknowledges them as slavery. And then says "but these two kinds are ok." Because "everyone does it." I wish I were kidding.
/r/MensRights30/04/16 03:31 PM
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Accusing me of strawman? That's brave (and ironic). I answered your refutation several posts back, but you ignored it or missed it. No, I do not claim that women are being raped by someone they know and recognize then mistakenly claiming it was a second person they know and recognize. That's so utterly stupid that it never even crossed my mind. I mean, seriously? Yet, you keep characterizing my argument that way, so you can copy-paste what is apparently the only argument you have. That- that is …
/r/MensRights28/04/16 03:58 AM
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The ability to repeat yourself, verbatim, doesn't make your argument stronger. So now you're trying to claim a deliberate falsification of a situation they directly know to NOT be rape months or even years later should not be considered a false rape accusation? And now I know that you either didn't read my "rants" or can't understand simple English. I said, multiple times, that this is ALSO a kind of false accusation. Is a kind of. A type of. A version or subset of. A false accusation is an accu…
/r/MensRights27/04/16 03:21 PM
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by the fact they maliciously, deliberately and knowingly falsely accused someone of rape they knew was innocent. Oh! I'm sorry! I didn't know you were a telepath! That changes everything! You claim to know for a fact what another person thinks, feels, knows and remembers. I call bullshit. We don't punish people for picking the wrong person out of a lineup. We don't punish prosecutors when they follow the evidence and it leads them to the wrong person. We don't punish false convictions unless the…
/r/MensRights27/04/16 04:55 AM
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Years of psychology has taught us that human memory is utter shit. Now... I'm sure I mentioned the Innocence Project... 1/3 of their cases are cleared because they're able to prove a violent rape occurred but was committed by someone else. Now, if you knew your attacker, and consciously chose to let them slide just so you can spite someone else by accusing them instead... You'd not only have to live on spite, but be an absolute fucking idiot too, to request a rape kit and DNA sample be taken. Bu…
/r/MensRights27/04/16 01:39 AM
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Centrist then. It's a thing.
/r/MensRights26/04/16 07:31 PM
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This is a meta-study, so... It varies a little. As for parameters... A false accusation is any accusation that can be proven false. This can either be because the accuser recanted, or proof surfaced that the accused committed no crime or because proof surfaced that someone else committed the crime. It doesn't have to be an act of malice... It can also be a mistake or bad memory.
/r/MensRights26/04/16 07:26 PM
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Misleading title. Not all false accusations are lies. We need to remember this... If for no other reason than to have he intellectual honesty our opponents lack. Other kinds of false accusation: False memory. The "victim" distinctly remembers the event a certain way, but that memory has become distorted over time, or due to outside influence. Mistaken memory. The event did occur, but some critical mistake on recollection leads towards an accusation of the wrong person. Remember, the Innocence Pr…
/r/MensRights26/04/16 07:24 PM
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In the interests of equality... ...men should be held responsible for the decisions a woman makes.
/r/MensRights15/04/16 06:22 PM
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5+ years of experience. That said, legally, the responsibility is sort of a happy accident of several chunks of the St Louis County Municipal Code section in Police powers and authority. 701.115 details limits and responsibilities... Specifically, security officers have full police powers when on duty in their work area, but no powers otherwise. 701.120 details penalties for violation, beyond loss of license (no more than $1,000 in fines, no more than 1 year jail) 701.200 details police discreti…
/r/MensRights15/04/16 12:30 AM
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Depends on local law. Where I live, even off-duty private security officers have an obligation to report anything they see that's illegal or a potential threat to public safety. Required by law.
/r/MensRights14/04/16 02:51 PM
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It kinda does. You don't clock out and walk away from being a cop. Off-duty is still on-call. I'm not a cop, but I worked with them for 7 years as licensed security. In my city, even being a licensed security officer meant I was on-call 24/7. If I was walking around on vacation even, and saw a crime in progress, and didn't report it, I would lose my license and could be arrested. Far more serious, If I saw a cop in trouble, and didn't render immediate assistance, same- even if doing so would put…
/r/MensRights14/04/16 01:23 PM
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You're generally right... But whatever she witnessed was enough to make her worried for her own safety... That breaks the threshold where she should have reported it. If it was enough to make her worried for her safety, it should've been enough to make her worried for the safety of others.
/r/MensRights14/04/16 12:32 AM
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Maybe it's different in Essex, but I doubt it: the job is salaried, not hourly. Off-duty doesn't mean no-responsibility.
/r/MensRights13/04/16 10:29 PM
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I'm one of the more moderate members around... I think that the real end-game is to find a form of feminism and men's rights that work together, as different sides of the same coin. Part of this involves being open to constructive criticism... And... Well. That seems to be then biggest hang up. Even constructive criticism is often seen as an attack... Which the "attacked" party takes as reinforcing negative assumptions, which then justifies attacking back, which... It gets out of hand. But witho…
/r/MensRights07/04/16 10:10 PM
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To be fair, that is an actual thing. Human memory is so malleable it's possible to have traumatic memories of an event that never happened, because you've convinced yourself it did through repeated vivid tellings. I mean, at that point, she did it to herself, literally... And she should still testify as evidence of the same... But if we're willing to get help for people who attempt suicide, we should be willing to get help for those who do this to themselves.
/r/MensRights06/04/16 04:03 PM
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And men 19-20x as often as women when adjusted for population (a far easier adjustment, too). The unarmed numbers are even more skewed.
/r/MensRights06/04/16 03:57 PM
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Yeah, in some cases... But many may be too immature to know what they want, or make that decision safely or reasonably. Further, wanting something doesn't make it trauma free. Imagine if your first sexual experience was at age 12 with someone 4x you age, with a wealth of sexual experience and confidence... You're telling me that wouldn't mark your sexual development? Shape how you interact with the other gender or romantic interests? You don't even really know who you are before 25, on any meani…
/r/MensRights06/04/16 05:12 AM
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I wish it were so, but there are too many problems with that. So- even if you can objectively measure the damage, it's problematic: if you steal $5,000 from me, should the punishment be more severe than stealing $5,000 from someone wealthy? The loss is objectively less severe for the wealthy man than for me- he can recoup it in an afternoon. But the loss isn't objective... It's entirely subjective, and largely immeasurable. An 11yo boy might have his social, sexual and physical brain development…
/r/MensRights05/04/16 11:24 PM
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No... I have an idea how it should work, but what's that worth?
/r/MensRights31/03/16 06:29 PM
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Which means, according to this reading, college grants for women are now in violation, right?
/r/MensRights31/03/16 05:26 PM
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Maybe. The way it's phrased, I doubt it's 20 / 6... That's an insane amount of paid time to give up. More likely, I think it's 14 / 0 + 6... The + 6 being time that can be used by either, not by both. And while in not going to spit in the face of progress, this probably has more to do with adoptions and LGBT couples than with any of the reasons we've pitched for Paternity Leave. And I'm not going to begrudge women a few extra weeks prior and after actual childbirth, any more than I'd begrudge so…
/r/MensRights19/03/16 10:56 PM
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Maybe, but for that, we're best off sharing side-by-side stories of each, with the disparity clear... Or focusing on highlighting the abuses where they happen, not this stuff. Ideally, we want to improve men's rights and equality, not drag women down to our level on this stuff... And given our (undeserved) bad rep, it pays to be extra careful about how we highlight inequality.
/r/MensRights17/03/16 03:22 PM
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Some hasty research suggests this was... just an accident. An accident, in an area where losing control of your vehicle like that counts as a felony if someone dies as a result... but an accident nonetheless. Sucks, but... moral luck. Why should she be going to jail? For that? The husband meanwhile made his own choice. Not her responsibility.
/r/MensRights17/03/16 03:38 AM
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Granted, and I agree... But they don't see it that way, because that assumes total financial collapse: 1- isn't already inevitable 2- is a likely result of this specific issue 3- is something they've even thought about The bloat market they've turned education into has a lot in common with the net & housing bubbles... And people were still diving into those right up until the very end, because it looked good right up until it very suddenly wasn't. They probably think they're immune to such a bus…
/r/MensRights03/03/16 03:35 AM
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My real emphasis is on the rock-and-hard-place of it. There are cases of schools being sued for finding someone not guilty, too... So they risk being sued either way. The reason they're stacking the deck against the accused is because lawsuit is preferable to lawsuit+funding cuts.
/r/MensRights03/03/16 03:01 AM
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They've been successfully sued... Repeatedly. I saw on here a while back- a single insurance company handles almost all of the university and college legal liability insurance in the US... And in their 2014 press release, they identified settlements with people suing for "violation of civil liberties during a campus investigation" as the single biggest expense they have. There are several dozen cases ongoing, and in many, the judge has already sided with the accused student and ordered a reversa…
/r/MensRights02/03/16 08:21 PM
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You know what most shocks me? She contacted police about a possible harassment case. And instead of opening a criminal case... They directed her to the campus tribunal. That is exactly ass-backwards.
/r/MensRights02/03/16 05:59 AM
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The guy saying these aren't sexual assaults is saying that they aren't sexual assaults because the attack wasn't sexual in nature, and no one got sexual gratification from it. I'm gonna call bullshit on that. Have you ever known a teenager who could handle a long, inch-thick piece of wood and not sexualize it? Now, add in even a pantomime of penetration by such an object, and tell me the act isn't sexual on some level in the performer's eyes? Let's say we take a gay man with no feeling in his pe…
/r/MensRights01/03/16 08:13 PM
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Except they're only "considering" charging the mother with an offense... While they've already arrested and charged him. So... Think for a minute about what that means for custodial purposes: They think the drug addict mother who did this to her kid is less of a danger to the child than the man who "didn't try hard enough to stop it."
/r/MensRights01/03/16 07:40 PM
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Yes, it happens. I know from experience as well. But that doesn't make it common. Social events (including crimes and abuses) tend to cluster... Leaving a few people who see nothing but abuse, while the majority see no abuse. Calling this issue common or rampant is as dishonest as saying it never happens. For that matter- does it have to be rampant for people to give a fuck?
/r/MensRights29/02/16 02:47 PM
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Why the archive?
/r/MensRights26/02/16 02:25 AM
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The particular bit that threw me as a possible boon to the accused is this: Institutions must also implement internal disciplinary procedures for sexual assault cases. They must disclose possible sanctions that may be imposed following a final determination, and ensure that both the accuser and the accused are entitled to - The same opportunity to have others, such as a support person or witnesses, present during a disciplinary proceeding; and To be informed of the outcome of any disciplinary pr…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 02:58 AM
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Now, she plead guilty... But, even so- in this case, that plea reduced her to 30 separate charges (of over 114 originally). Meaning, they ignored 2/3 of the crimes she committed, and for the remainder... gave her 2 days of jail per crime.
/r/MensRights24/02/16 06:39 AM
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What response precisely? "What about male victims?" "You have a shelter now!" "A shelter. Should we send every male victim to Arkansas?"
/r/MensRights21/02/16 04:09 AM
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Worth remembering: this is a civil case, not a criminal one. Meaning, "innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" isn't the standard... She has to either show that they broke contract, or convince the judge that remaining in contract may put her physical or mental health at enough risk to warrant government intervention.
/r/MensRights21/02/16 02:11 AM
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But- and this is a big but- that doesn't matter. These companies don't just get revenue from clicks, they also get demographics. Say SFGate runs 2 articles on a given day... One on how the wage gap is horribles to womens, and the other on how the court system discriminates against men... The wage gap article gets 10,000 clicks. The court discrimination article gets 3. Which kind of article are they going to print more of? Yes, going to their site gives them revenue... But it also tells them what…
/r/MensRights18/02/16 08:41 PM
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Serious injury resulting from DV is 40% male-victim... So... Um. Yeah.
/r/MensRights17/02/16 04:05 PM
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Multiple counts. Each carries a sentence of 2-10 years. She got the minimum for pleading guilty. He got the maximum for making it difficult. 2 vs 10 doesn't seem terribly extreme, but then, multiple counts mean 2x5 vs 10x5. That's just how the law works. Maybe sentencing is an issue society should look at in general, but this isn't a clear case of sexism, any more than the 'wage gap' is. Which is to say, the only argument I could make here is that society tends to prime girls to play it safe, an…
/r/MensRights17/02/16 04:01 PM
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Which is why I advise cutting them off at the pass.
/r/MensRights17/02/16 07:46 AM
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This is my experience as well. I typically address it not as an attempt to recruit them, or call into question any of the good feminism has done... But to point out that it's woefully incomplete and frequently harmful as a result. I also stress that they can be supportive of my causes without co-opting them as feminist issues. That, in fact, co-opting them spoils the entire point. In the end... Allies are equals. They support eachother. If they want me to support them, and don't return the favor…
/r/MensRights17/02/16 01:31 AM
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I have some police training, and several friends who work as campus police at one of our local schools.... They say this is happening everywhere, it's a bloody waste of time, paperwork, and money, and they have to laugh about it because otherwise it would piss them off.
/r/MensRights16/02/16 03:13 PM
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Actually- it is reversible. Still surgery, but reversible. Of course- if we had some decent male contraceptive options, none of this would be an issue...
/r/MensRights12/02/16 02:31 PM
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I'm a little hung up on that myself. The way she says it... I don't know. Is it an admission of how seriously she dreads another pregnancy, or a threat? It seems fuzzy to me. Mind- not good, either way. Either she's being abusive, or she's got some mental health issues. Either way... There's room for nuance a lot of ppl seem to be missing. Threats of self-harm (if that's what that is, and you may very well be right- the more I think about it, the more I lean that way)...? Absolutely abuse. Airin…
/r/MensRights12/02/16 08:12 AM
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Nope. Maybe look up the word sometime. SJWs and feminists misuse it all the time, and we call them out on it. For the love of good, man, be better than that. Coercion: the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats. If withholding sex counts as coercion, then we're stuck... Because suddenly, saying "no" is a crime. Negotiating the terms of a relationship- sexual or otherwise- isn't wrong. It's mature. Voicing your needs, wants, etc, as long as you allow the other pe…
/r/MensRights12/02/16 12:42 AM
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But- and please, let's be clear here... She's not actually forcing him to go through with it. Not drugging him, holding him down, or any such. We talk all the time about how pressuring someone into sex isn't the same thing as raping him... Yet you can't tell the difference between forcing him to go through with a vasectomy and this. Granted- pressuring isn't good either, especially like this, especially in a marriage, but it's not the same as coercing or forcing.
/r/MensRights11/02/16 11:35 PM
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The surgery for women is more invasive, has a longer recovery time, and IIRC, starts menopause ahead of schedule. The surgery for men is practically outpatient. There are practical reasons- but they should be something for them to discuss with eachother... As I said- her decision is fair, her approach to it very much a problem.
/r/MensRights11/02/16 07:07 PM
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There's more out there, but I decided to focus on a site that provides parallel info on both, and has a wealth of sources linked in if you felt like digging. If you want more- I have it, but it can get pretty inconsistent and disjointed.
/r/MensRights11/02/16 05:06 PM
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And to play along: we determine deformities by function and norm. Hare lips are rare, and seriously impede function- breathing and eating both- and are taken seriously. Foreskins meanwhile are the norm... And don't impede anything. Even if you take the claims of circumcision reducing STI and general infection... It still doesn't seriously impede function. Unless your toddler is having lots of unprotected sex, anyway.
/r/MensRights11/02/16 05:02 PM
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The Facebook post makes this a shitty marriage. And... Well, if this is part of a larger pattern of controlling or abusive behaviors, we can and should condemn it as such But by itself, I think the content (and decision) is fair, and one I think we should support at least hypothetically. Get this- the whole idea of Parental Surrender as we want it boils down to "I consent to sex, but not to children... Not even to the risk of children." Thus, if a woman were to lie about being on the pill, or sa…
/r/MensRights11/02/16 04:53 PM
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Sure thing. FGM: wikiGender Ia- removal of clitoral hood Ib- removal of clitoral hood and clitoris (partial or total) IIa- removal of labia minora IIb- removal of labia minora and Ib IIc- removal of labia minora and majora and Ib IIIa- removal and sealing the labia minora (infibulation) IIIb- removal and sealing of the labia majora IV- everything else (including pinpricks and peircings- basically, anything not medically necessary) MGM: wikiGender I- Circumcision (I've seen sites that break it do…
/r/MensRights11/02/16 04:43 PM
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MGM has also been classed into 4 types... Each with 2 subtypes. It would appear that after circumcision, subincision is the second most common. Each type of FGM is also subclassed into 2 subtypes each, depending on whether it includes removal of the clitoris.
/r/MensRights11/02/16 06:34 AM
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Both MGM and FGM exist in a spectrum... Each categorized into 4 types (and each of those into 2 subtypes). Are some forms of FGM worse than some forms of FGM? Obviously. Are some forms of MGM worse than some forms of FGM? Obviously. Saying either one is worse than the other is like saying that cancer is worse than getting shot, because some cancer victims die. Depends on what kind of cancer, and what kind of gunshot. Some forms of FGM are extremely mild (a ceremonial pinprick to draw a single dr…
/r/MensRights11/02/16 06:31 AM
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So, treat it as a single data point... And the others we can find as corroborating data points. We can still use this story, but never by itself. Problem solved. That said- I'd like to see it repeated, and documented, too. As for the research being destroyed- well, we have the Internet.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 03:00 PM
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Yeah- I was just clarifying because the phrasing on the OP sounded more like self-defense courses, when the class actually focused more on clear communication and confidence.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 01:58 AM
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And a Canadian school found that a 12 hour confidence course (on how to say no clearly and concisely, rather than hedge or go for easy let downs) reduced rape rates by 50%, attempt rates by 60+% and general sexual assault/harassment rates by 67%.
/r/MensRights05/02/16 03:02 PM
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Uhm... So, in several cities in the US, various feminist groups are planning on protesting his appearances (so long as they do so peacefully, cool). Those protests are bound to attract coverage. Maybe... We should be there, to finally put this to bed. Make no mistake- he's a men's rights problem, because he helps encourage the common media image of not only our movement as regressive assholes, but our gender as fucking animals. By actively opposing him, we stand to gain visibility, good PR, and …
/r/MensRights04/02/16 03:03 AM
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Well, if you're in the US (immigrants and refugees included), your options are: 1- refuse to sign up for the selective service ----you are committing a felony, and if charged face up to $250,000 fine, 5 years jail time, and loss of voting rights in most states ----even if you aren't charged, are no longer eligible for any federally funded job, program or service. Among other things, this includes admission to any public school that receives federal funding, which is pretty much all of them. 2- s…
/r/MensRights03/02/16 08:33 PM
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The blog was clearly entirely for the class- with each assignment getting a blog post. Given there are only 2, helpfully labeled #1 and #2... We have no real idea if the 2nd is the one that caused the uproar, but neither contain any of the mentioned quotes or content (such as a Hoff Summers video). I certainly have a hard time, looking at those two posts, imagining the same author producing a third that comes across as legitimately threatening. I also have a hard time finding Hoff Summers legiti…
/r/MensRights03/02/16 06:31 PM
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This. Under the selective service, you're required by law to sign a contract. If you do, you're required to serve if called. It doesn't have to be combat (if you're disabled, incapable, or unwilling), but you will serve.
/r/MensRights02/02/16 11:46 PM
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In the US, they're effectively the same thing. One is active, the other inactive. Some people seem to think the selective service isn't the same as the draft, or even related to it. That it's just a list you have to put your name on, and when a draft is called, that's different. Nope. The selective service is just the name we gave to the draft when it's not being actively called. The selective service, if you paid attention, includes a clause that you agree to serve if called. ...Meaning you sig…
/r/MensRights02/02/16 11:44 PM
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California, too. Oh, and in one of them, she was convicted, and he still owes child support even though the state recognized it as a crime.
/r/MensRights01/02/16 06:31 PM
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We are, I'll grant you... But many of the UK's former colonies have shockingly similar legal systems.
/r/MensRights01/02/16 06:20 AM
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The U.K. has equivalences to a sex offender registry that, if anything, are even more abusive than the US. (Sexual Harm Prevention Orders are even more intense than a registry, and Sexual Risk Orders are a lighter version that doesn't even require a crime have been committed, much less a sex crime... just fear of the possibility of one). It's understandable for someone to assume New Zealand would have one, too. Maybe not accurate, but understandable.
/r/MensRights31/01/16 02:54 PM
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This, but I'd say go with an optional donation, to go towards the event itself, or some worthy cause. Some people will be happy to pitch in, so that we all benefit.
/r/MensRights28/01/16 07:41 PM
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This. She was charged with (and pled guilty to) sexual violation... Which they're trying to phase in to replace rape laws, because of a few recent snafu's with the limitations we all know and loathe.
/r/MensRights27/01/16 03:07 PM
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new goal We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal Granted- the Declaration of Independence isn't a legal document we can hold politicians to, in the way that the constitution is... But here you have it. Equality was a clearly stated goal in 1776.
/r/MensRights27/01/16 03:05 PM
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Just looked the laws in NZ up... the crime she plead guilty to actually carries mandatory jail time, up to 20 years... to be waived only in special circumstances. Guess being female counts as special circumstances, because I don't know what the fuck else does in this case.
/r/MensRights27/01/16 04:11 AM
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Complainant just has to be able to describe feeling threatened or in danger as a result of a sexual act that occurred in the prior 6 months. So, imagine a consensual encounter gets... weird. Weird as in awkward for someone who suddenly realizes their in over their head. Weird as in regrettable. Whatever. If you walk away feeling threatened on some level by that person as a result of your experiences, and can convince a judge of that feeling, you get to through an SRO at them. The best example I …
/r/MensRights27/01/16 02:55 AM
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I don't mean the video... I just mean his name. At some point, this kid is going to try looking his mother's name up online... And find this article. Which already exists. As a matter of public record, forever and ever. You can burn every copy of the video in a bonfire along with every circuit to ever have anything to do with it, and a record that she did this to him will still be out there because a judge said she doesn't deserve anonymity (and she doesn't). So... What happens if they never tel…
/r/MensRights26/01/16 08:40 PM
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Personally, abolishing it is my go-to. It's kinda hard to justify forced service (aka slavery) in defense of freedom. But, that said... Registering women isn't the go-to, but it is the backup plan. If freedom is off the table, our nation's also supposed to be equal- there's even something about that in the founding documents.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 04:51 PM
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At some point, the kid may ask what happened to mom... And this being a matter of public record... Hell- in the age of the Internet, do you want the kid finding out because some asshole at high-school googles him, and this archived news page comes up?
/r/MensRights26/01/16 04:47 PM
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Oh, understood... But most people who use that word aren't using the statistical meaning... They're using the "what I think is normal" meaning, which is just plain useless. Makes me wary of using the word at all.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 12:13 PM
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The 2015 totals were ~1139 police shootings in the US. ~230 out of 1139 were unarmed. ~50 out of 1139 were women. (4.5%) 12 out of 230 unarmed were women. (6%) Compare these to the racial numbers for the same categories (general, and unarmed) and the gender bias is consistent even when the racial bias varies. Disclaimer: All above numbers IIRC- I was just looking at them a couple hours ago, via The Guardian's "The Counted" website... But am not at my computer now, so... IIRC. Feel free to double…
/r/MensRights26/01/16 12:12 PM
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I'm not even sure what typical and atypical mean anymore, tbh. I mean... Social norms and the prevailing theories all day the same thing: men are violent, women are victims. Is that typical, because those are the stories we hear most? The studies all say the same things: statistically, gender doesn't affect whether or not you're likely to be an abuser or abuse victim much if at all. Is that typical, because those are the numbers? For that matter, we all hurt and all heal in our own ways, so typi…
/r/MensRights26/01/16 11:57 AM
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No kidding. Abuse is a human problem, not a gendered problem. Anyone here who wants to tear down the support structures we have isn't being aggro, they're being honest. Someone once asked me- why tear down the house when you can fix it? Because, at some point, you realize it's too broken to fix. When the foundation is cracked, you don't rebuild the second floor. You tear it down and start over. The UK recently passed a law requiring DV shelters and services to offer support to all victims, no ge…
/r/MensRights26/01/16 11:51 AM
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Not overwhelmingly. A couple of the studies contained within that big meta-study focus on serious injuries in IPV/DV... specifically looking at those requiring ER visit or hospitalization. Almost every study finds that at this level of abuse, it's usually around a 40/60 split. His other link is a bit more clear, but the breakdown seems to be as follows (based off the CDC study, but all the others have similar results, within statistical margin-of-error): Men experiencing abuse in relationship: 2…
/r/MensRights26/01/16 11:12 AM
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But, by that same token, any men who defend themselves would probably be mis-quantified too. Reciprocal violence is often separated out because it's frankly too messy to make heads or tails of... it's often impossible to tell who initiated abuse, who initiated violence, and so on. That said- some of the studies included in the 270 do focus on reciprocal violence, and dig deeper... distinguishing between self-defense and escalation, and trying to figure out motives behind escalation. It's compell…
/r/MensRights26/01/16 11:06 AM
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What she's afraid of is that some of that "reciprocal" violence is actually just self-defense like she experienced being incorrectly quantified as mutual abuse. And... yeah. That could be the case. But, by that same token, any men who defend themselves would probably be mis-quantified too. Reciprocal violence is often separated out because it's frankly too messy to make heads or tails of... it's often impossible to tell who initiated abuse, who initiated violence, and so on. That said- some of t…
/r/MensRights26/01/16 11:00 AM
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That said, it feels almost like you're belittling the plight of certain victims here, and that's not necessary. You're right. The support system we have right now has been belittling the plight of certain victims here... for 40 years. We're not belittling female victims. We're pointing out that focusing on them and only them for 40 years is unacceptable.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 10:48 AM
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If the numbers were close across the UK, would they even know it, or would such deaths be easily mislabeled?
/r/MensRights25/01/16 03:16 PM
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For all the pessimism here... hey, look... Character growth!
/r/MensRights25/01/16 03:12 PM
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School population ~2-3,000... ~60% female. 291 people at the school believe that letting him come back will put the majority of them at risk. Majority? How? How do they think he's going to, by himself, put thousands at risk?
/r/MensRights24/01/16 09:48 PM
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Check out the other sections of the same act- they're maybe even worse. The writers describe the act as giving police powers to restrict "antisocial behavior" as crime. If that statement alone doesn't give you the willies, and make you oppose anything else they have to say...
/r/MensRights23/01/16 07:33 PM
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But that's not a prerequisite of the order. And thanks to this law, you can also be placed on the sex offender registry for legal but deviant sexual acts, as long as anyone involved can convincingly describe being fearful of you afterwards as a result.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 07:29 PM
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Either way, the case is hugely precedent setting... If the court had found against him... You wouldn't be able to claim innocence without being sued. Which basically makes it impossible to stand up to any accusation, real, mistaken, or false.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 07:27 PM
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No worries... I tried reading through some of the other sections, and if anything, they're even worse (both to navigate, and as overreach). Some of the things that are classified as "antisocial behavior crime" are just absurd. Hell, the term "antisocial behavior crime" gives me the willies. It looks like an SRO can be issued by any magistrate or judge... But can only be appealed through the crown court of appeals in an official case... If that's anything like what it sounds like, 10x harder to l…
/r/MensRights23/01/16 07:18 PM
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The act sets the minimum term at 2 years, maximum at 10. Within those bounds, any magistrate or judge can extend the term at any time, for any (or no) reason.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 03:45 AM
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The act specifically mentions travel abroad... First- the SRO can restrict travel abroad completely at the magistrate's discretion. Second- it looks like if he does travel abroad, he'll still have to make notification.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 03:12 AM
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EDIT: Just noticed... the text you copied comes from the section on "Sexual Harm Prevention Orders." That's the higher-grade version. The guy in the article's not under a SHPO, he's under an SRO. Keep going down to "Sexual Risk Orders." That section specifically dictates that: "For a SRO to be imposed, the individual does not need to have committed a relevant (or any) offence." That's from the actual Act, as passed and as available in the link you gave. Evidence cited to support the order must b…
/r/MensRights23/01/16 03:11 AM
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I went to the trouble of reading the text of the law... Holy shit, this gets seriously, deeply Orwellian. The Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014 introduced new powers to deal with behaviour deemed to be 'anti-social'. For now, I'll focus on explaining the section on sex, as it directly relates to this news story, but any libertarians in the audience will want to look into it further, as similar injunctions can be filed as police powers for "Causing nuisance and annoyance in resid…
/r/MensRights23/01/16 02:51 AM
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Am I the only one who remembers reading The Scarlet Letter?
/r/MensRights20/01/16 07:50 AM
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So, it's comparable to cutting off the clitoral hood and labia then. Which... (Drumroll please)... Is illegal and barbaric. Also, circumcision is just one of multiple forms of MGM. There are 4 classifications and 2 sub-classifications each, of FGM and MGM. They're each a spectrum. And guess what? The two spectrums are comparable, even if any given randomly selected parts of them aren't.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 04:37 PM
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Police are still deciding on whether to charge her. From the video, it sounds like he's the one who's not sure he should press charges. Given he probably puts up with something like this at least once a week... He may just not think anything of taking that kind of abuse.
/r/MensRights18/01/16 03:58 PM
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That's it guys- time to stop making sacrifices for women.
/r/MensRights18/01/16 03:49 PM
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You're right... And as an MRA, no one is forcing you to oppose circumcision. But we have identified it as one of our primary concerns, because most of us do care about it... Because as things stand, genital mutilation is an issue that predominantly affects men (at least in the US, and arguably world-wide, although numbers get sketchy). Well... Police brutality also predominantly affects men. Like... 98% of the time it happens, it happens to men. Hell. Police have been known to show up to a call …
/r/MensRights18/01/16 03:39 PM
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Mea culpa. I didn't look at the numbers before making my ballpark statement, and was way off. I'm frankly embarrassed. I know that the count for this year is a lot more severely racial than the overall trend you mention... But again, my overall point stands: the demographics don't line up to within expected variances. Therefore, there is a racial element (whether you think that element is bias on behalf of cops, or something else). There's a far stronger gender element, but there is a racial ele…
/r/MensRights18/01/16 03:32 PM
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Yeah... I could see justifying a suit for clearing of responsibility... But $4m in emotional damages is absurd.
/r/MensRights17/01/16 08:28 PM
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Ok, I'm going to make this easy. The cop is saying that, in the time it took a man to run 30 feet, he was able to shoot a taser, see that it had no effect, drop the taser, unclip his holster, draw his weapon, raise it, aim it, and shoot the full clip. Running 30 feet takes a couple seconds. This cop is a god-damn superhero. Oh, yeah, sure- if you already have the gun out and aimed as you said... Sure! But... Um... How is it you already have it out... Unless you lied about having used a taser. ht…
/r/MensRights17/01/16 02:37 AM
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Uh... It's not co-opting. This issue disproportionately affects men. (1) This issue disproportionately affects minorities. (2) 1- This makes it a men's rights issue. 2- This makes it a race issue. It can be both. Unless, of course.... You're saying that a gay trans black man named Tom needs a movement for Gay Trans Black Men Named Tom, because they're the only ones allowed to talk about his issues? I mean- I know what it's like to be a man, but I'm not named Tom, so talking about issues that aff…
/r/MensRights17/01/16 02:32 AM
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See also: The Helpseeking Experiences Of Men Who Sustain Intimate Partner Violence Men who call police arrested 33.3% of the time- their abusers only 26.5% of the time. Men who call police jailed 30% of the time- their abusers only 21% of the time. Men who call police charged with a crime almost 20% of the time- their abusers only ~10% of the time. Men who contact support services are also treated so poorly by them that they develop a higher risk of PTSD as a result, much higher compared to men …
/r/MensRights16/01/16 07:03 PM
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The problem is that within 30 feet, guns are a useless weapons unless already drawn and aimed at the target. Bullets are unreliable too, at the calibers used by cops. Officers are taught to empty the clip if they fire at all, because people in a rage (or on drugs) have been known to plow through a shot or two- there's really no knowing if any given bullet will end someone or piss them off, so hit them with everything you've got. But you miss the point. Cop's story is fishy. Either: 1- he fired t…
/r/MensRights16/01/16 06:50 PM
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I know a little something about the range of tasers that makes the whole thing fishy. If the guy was running at an officer, and got shot with a taser at it's maximum range... And kept running... He's have tackled the officer before he could upholster his gun, much less fire it. Hell, at that range, at a dead stop... I could still tackle someone who tried to taze me and missed.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 06:29 PM
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We need to make this clear to anyone and everyone we meet: #BlackLivesMatter is an MHRM cause. Yes, race is clearly an issue, when just over 50% of those killed by police are black, and only 30% of the population is black. But 95-98% of those shot are male, and only 50% of the population is male. This is about racial discrimination, yes... But doubly so about sex discrimination.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 06:26 PM
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Both only apply if MSU employs a single counselor for their entire student body. Also- schools can't give out restraining orders. Assuming the student got a judge to issue a restraining order (or the school did so on her behalf)... Where can the student go? They probably share a professor or two. They probably get their meals from the same places. They probably both pass through the student union from time to time. Messy. So, sure. Assuming there's a restraining order, he can't go to the counsel…
/r/MensRights14/01/16 05:24 PM
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Some of the embedded links in the article are helpful, too... If you're willing to rabbit-trail a bit. Example- First link contains an email interview with a legal expert who reviewed MSU. The university now uses “a modified version of the single-investigator model – in which one person serves as the equivalent of police, prosecutor, jury, and judge, subject only to oversight from a MSU panel,” Johnson wrote in an email to The Fix. That model also keeps the accused from confronting the accuser, …
/r/MensRights14/01/16 05:13 PM
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Opposes prison creep and wants to roll back imprisonment of non-violent offenders (who are 90% male). Add in other concerns with how prisons are handled, and you find many issues there that overlap ours. IIRC, opposes the draft altogether. Little tidbits here and there.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 08:37 AM
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Only once pressured. He was clearly reluctant to open that can of worms. Meanwhile, he's independently (pressure-free) made talking points out of some of our biggest issues, without labeling them as such. So... Do you care about visibility, or progress?
/r/MensRights13/01/16 09:49 AM
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Trump may oppose feminism, but that doesn't mean he supports men's issues. Bernie meanwhile has independently brought up several major men's issues- without labeling them as such. He's also brought up a few questionable women's issues- but only after being pressured. Combined- those two points tell me one thing: he's our best hope, but he still has to play the game. If we want visibility, he's no better or worse than anyone else... But if we want results...
/r/MensRights13/01/16 09:47 AM
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If the keying was a bait attempt... That makes it premeditated.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 08:31 AM
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The US allows conscientious objectors to avoid combat roles... They still have to serve though- as medics, mechanics, or whatever the military needs.... If the only thing they need is combat- they can just shuffle whoever you replace into combat. Sucks for them, but that's how it already works... So I see no reason to exempt women altogether even if there is a logical reason for a given woman to be incapable of serving in combat... So be it. She still should have to serve, if only in one of thos…
/r/MensRights12/01/16 08:23 AM
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And, to be fair, the selective service doesn't require combat service, just service.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 10:04 PM
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They aren't even all reposts or molestors- Remember... 1000 drunk guys, only 112 incidents. And those 112 incidents are assaults, thefts and sexual assaults combined. TIL that even a crowd of 1000 drunk men organized into a massive 3-hour-long rape party can't rape more than a few dozen girls, and keep getting distracted stealing from them instead. That... Or it wasn't a massive rape-party. I dunno.
/r/MensRights10/01/16 04:12 AM
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Not being callous. I'm not saying that 112 incidents is nothing, or that those girls don't matter... But: 112: That's all assaults, sexual assaults and thefts combined. Having worked as casino security for 6 years: given 1000 drunk people in the same place for several hours, 112 incidents is really pretty good. If those 1000 people were actually an organized rape-mob as described, I'd expect closer to 1000 rapes in 3 hours... At least 500.... Not 112 (including non-sexual assaults and thefts).
/r/MensRights10/01/16 04:06 AM
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Wait... What? 1000 men gather in one place with the goal to sexually assault as many women as they can... And only manage 121? If they're all such monsters, they're some of the least frightening monsters of all time.
/r/MensRights10/01/16 01:41 AM
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To me- yeah. You're right. Gender may not be the deciding factor in this case... To figure that out, we'd need to be able to go through the judge's case history, looking at comparable cases for each gender. I'm research-monkey enough that I'd be happy to do so, if there were sufficient info on the judge, and transparency on cases to do so. The key note for me in the article is that the same court handed out a far more severe sentence for a far less severe crime... We also lack details on that ca…
/r/MensRights09/01/16 05:10 AM
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ELI5 on Manslaughter vs Murder She was charged with manslaughter because that's what this would have been, even given her story. They don't need proof of intent, because manslaughter doesn't require intent, just gross (criminal) negligence. And she was convicted, which means there was evidence of gross, criminal negligence. I'll grant you, some manslaughter sentences can be very lenient... and maybe gender had nothing to do with it. But, even if gender had nothing to do with it, the same court d…
/r/MensRights09/01/16 05:06 AM
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Huh. That changed within the last couple months then... I've checked on them semi-regularly, though admittedly, mostly I check the press releases, where they still split them up. http://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/SV-DataSheet-a.pdf But, looking at their most recent, at least they list everything (rape, general, and then mtp)... As opposed to the 2014 press release, which only listed rape and general.
/r/MensRights06/01/16 03:12 PM
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Same. I run an informal group in StLouis- as far as I know, the only one. Feel free to contact me if you're in the area.
/r/MensRights05/01/16 04:24 PM
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My explanation was based off several articles that appear outdated at this point... The FBI FAQ page now specifies that their new definition does cover male and female victims, as well as male and female perpetrators, and they make no distinction between penetrative and made-to-penetrate rape. So, yeah. Mea culpa. They specifically break it down into only three categories: 11A Rape (except Statutory Rape) The carnal knowledge of a person, without the consent of the victim, including instances wh…
/r/MensRights04/01/16 06:26 PM
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Current CDC and FBI definitions only allow for rape as an act of penetration by the attacker- ie, women can't rape unless using an object to penetrate their victim. This prevents male victims of female attackers from being classified as rape victims... Which in turn, tanks awareness and support for them. It also skews social perceptions and justice against such men, and in favor of Duluth-Model narratives. Which, in turn, means even when men do come forward, they tend to get treated like shit- m…
/r/MensRights04/01/16 08:58 AM
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Let's compare/contrast: http://www.wikigender.org/wiki/male-genital-mutilation-mgm/ http://www.wikigender.org/wiki/female-genital-cutting/ Yep. Checks out.
/r/MensRights30/12/15 03:27 PM
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Good news lady... It's your son. You don't have to have sex with him.
/r/MensRights30/12/15 03:22 PM
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For the record: Some of these posters do describe forms of abuse. The offensive bit is where they come from (Duluth), and how they always cast the male as the abuser. Also, a few of them are described in an absurd way. Having complete and total control over the family finances, locking the other partner out can be abusive. "Running a tight budget" is not the same thing.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 01:15 AM
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By that token... Wouldn't he be charged with coercing the wife too, if that's the case?
/r/MensRights22/12/15 08:36 PM
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Unless he can get her to sign a release of parental rights & obligations. That is a viable option... But again, entirely up to her, not him. Best thing to do would be to sell it as "this is what you have to sign unless you want me to have parental rights- medical, educational, the lot."
/r/MensRights20/12/15 10:06 PM
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Saying that MGM isn't an issue because it's not as bad as FGM.. Roughly like saying "Rape isn't an issue because it's not as bad as assault or murder, and I'd rather be raped than murdered, so..." Yeah. They can both be wrong. Also, FGM is a spectrum of crimes- some are way worse than MGM, some are way better. Funny enough- the most common form today is just a ceremonial pinprick to drop a drop of blood... And... Totally illegal, because even though it's basically nothing, it's still under the b…
/r/MensRights20/12/15 09:51 PM
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That... Actually ended better than I expected. I was legitimately expecting a suicide at the end.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 06:08 PM
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Guy, guys... You're forgetting. In the UK, they install Patriarchy(tm) Mind Control in boys at a younger age than in the US. He put me in a submissive sort of mode. I can’t explain it. See? We know it's true because she said it, and we know the victim is really to blame because he's male. /s
/r/MensRights11/12/15 07:39 PM
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I've seen articles written by scholars (not quite the same as a research paper, but still trustworthy) stating that the gender sentencing gap is higher than the racial sentencing gap, but off the top of my head, don't recall by how much. I'll see if I can find them again...
/r/MensRights09/12/15 01:19 PM
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Let's see... Take any market- say, candy. Raise risk in one half of the market, while lowering risk in the other. See what happens. Make companies responsible for anyone who suffers a peanut allergy, and you get disclaimers. Say the disclaimers aren't good enough (it's victim blaming)... And watch Peanut MnMs get discontinued.
/r/MensRights07/12/15 05:48 AM
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Depends on who's talking. What I think happened was: Feminist hears that coercing someone into sex is rape... Thinks that coercion means something different, and then says that convincing, begging, negotiating, or pressuring through non-overtly-threatening means is rape. We then hear that, and respond by saying that coercion is ok... Which it isn't. What we should respond with is "no, that's not coercion," provide the definition and examples, and move on. Any time a legal document, law, lawyer, …
/r/MensRights06/12/15 01:49 AM
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Some feminists seem to confuse them, as you describe... But I've also seen a few people here confuse them to say "coercion is never wrong" in response to a legal statement... When, get this- the legal statement is using the legal definition, not the screwed up one. So yeah. PSA for everyone. Coercion is bad, but it's bad because it doesn't mean what a lot of people think it means.
/r/MensRights06/12/15 01:43 AM
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PSA: coercion, look it up. Coercion is using threats of physical, legal, or social harm. i.e.- physical: I hold a gun to you head, and tell you to have sex with me or I'll kill you. This is coercive rape, not forcible, because at no point did I use violence, I just threatened it. So, the "no coercion" clause is absolutely fair... And I think, can be covered by law. Many people in big movements seem to confuse "coerce" with "convince", leading to some obvious idiocy on both sides as neither under…
/r/MensRights05/12/15 11:13 PM
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I don't even get the logic of the original dismissal. So what if they can't serve in combat? The selective service doesn't just cover combat roles. If a young man is a conscientious objector, and gets selected... He still has to serve, he just serves in a non-combat role- as a medic, mechanic, or whatever position will free someone else up to go into combat. Being a conscientious objector excludes you from combat, but you still have to sign up. So... If being a woman excludes you from combat... …
/r/MensRights05/12/15 10:06 AM
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Yeah. My first question on seeing the prior conviction for drug charges was "how serious?" Something like, what, half our prisoners are for minor, non-violent, personal-use quantity drug charges that disproportionately affect men, and in the current political climate, are utter BS anyway. This was not one of those. Still- I'm unsure whether I think two so utterly unrelated crimes should count against eachother.
/r/MensRights04/12/15 06:56 PM
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Worth noting: In July, the sentences came out- He got 2-1/2 years, she got time served. His previous charge was cocaine trafficking, 8 years, which he served without incident.
/r/MensRights04/12/15 02:52 PM
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Additionally, it's funny how a whole generation of women can simultaneously complain about all the absent fathers, and claim all of men's problems come from other men. Who raised us again, if our fathers were absent? As for why our fathers were absent... Maybe you told him you didn't want or need him... And he believed you.
/r/MensRights04/12/15 07:22 AM
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From a purely business perspective, it's their choice who to believe, and on top of that, to do business with him after the accusation or not (even if they don't believe her, they might opt to distance themselves from a possible PR-risk). The only 2 places where anyone has any obligation to believe anything is: 1) Where healing and support services are concerned- to believe the trauma is real, because even if the event is entirely in their head, the trauma can absolutely still be real, because t…
/r/MensRights30/11/15 09:18 PM
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No update. The names of the students in question were never released, and no one's been able to find anything beyond Prof Halley's statement... Which makes it anecdotal, like it or not. Still, given the source, and Harvard Law's professors- and their consistency in opposing these kinds of violations- and a few sorta similar cases- I'm inclined to believe it.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 04:10 AM
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PSA: Coercion noun /koʊˈɜrʃən/ the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats. Coercion is the practice of forcing another party to act in an involuntary manner by use of intimidation or threats or some other form of pressure or force. For example, if I hold a gun to your head and tell you that I'll kill you if you don't do something, that's coercion. I didn't force you to do anything... I threatened you with force. Other threats may qualify- such as threatening som…
/r/MensRights28/11/15 10:34 PM
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If you confront him, feel free to give him my info. Then again, in on the Internet, so may not be real Do I exist, guys?
/r/MensRights27/11/15 02:44 PM
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When we bring up male rape victims, it's always "but you're derailing. Women are the majority of the victims, so talking about men is unacceptable!" Yet even when men are the vast majority of the victims of a given issue... We're still excluded. And we're the bad guys?
/r/MensRights27/11/15 01:53 AM
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Yes, yes, and yes... Because I know about hat factor. My point, from the very beginning, was that more samples > bigger samples. The problem you now bring up is one remedied by having more samples. If there's clustering in a given area, having a bigger sample from that area doesn't solve the problem. Having a second sample from a different area does. The difference in certainty between a sample of 500 And a sample of 50,000 isn't that much. The difference in certainty between a single sample of …
/r/MensRights27/11/15 01:50 AM
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Article aggravates me. He starts by saying that men are sexually assaulted- "of course much more rarely than women"... But then later admits there's no way of knowing and that it's much higher than anyone thinks, with some studies saying the split is 60/40 (which is definitely not "much more rarely"). Which means, even with the data, he still can't admit parity. W. T. F.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 10:43 PM
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Old, but new to me... and apparently making the rounds on FB. And yeah- it's nothing but an ad, more about the product than the dad... but still. After all the ads that have the dunce dad, and the lifesaver mom... That final line made me that that maybe someone somewhere out there in the ad industry has our backs.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 06:00 AM
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Look up "coercion." Coercion by definition means using threats- those threats can be physical, legal, or social... But they're real threats. A lot of people see to think that asking, begging, or convincing someone is coercing them, but... No. Not even a little.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 07:28 AM
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I've been toying with a similar theory, that posits a simple power in-group and out-group mechanic. In this scenario, there may be more than one out-group... In fact, it's probably best for the in-group. The in-group can then use differences between various out-groups to keep them divided, and less of a threat... Further, the in-group can more or less buy individual out-groups off... Bribing them into passive acceptance, with offerings of various sorts- these privileges we keep hearing about. Ou…
/r/MensRights22/11/15 06:03 AM
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I'm not assuming a Gaussian distribution of victims- that's a binary case, and would be silly. I'm assuming a Gaussian distribution of studies and their accuracies. I thought that was clear, although reading back, I get how it wasn't. My bad. Point is: larger sample sizes increase the likelihood of a sample being representative, but the relation between sample size and accuracy is logarithmic... And sample sizes of a few hundred can represent a high degree of certainty even for an enormous popul…
/r/MensRights19/11/15 03:08 PM
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Eh, to some degree. See, there's still the rule of bell curves. You can do the math and figure out "Let's assume the real number is 25%... What are he odds that a randomly selected sample will show 4%?" "Ok, now let's assume 50%, what are the odds that a randomly selected sample will show 4%? How about the odds with 75 & 4?" And so on. With a sample size of 600, we can say with at least 99.9% certainty that the real number is single-digit. Barring some wild fluke, lightning striking a winning lo…
/r/MensRights18/11/15 07:40 PM
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That particular study was due to selection bias- people who had been assaulted were far more likely to show up than people who didn't care. The guys who ran it even said "stop using our study like this. It's publishable, not accurate." The 1-in-4 Mary Koss study meanwhile included things like getting kissed after having had a drink at any point in the last hour all lumped in together.
/r/MensRights18/11/15 02:20 PM
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True, but at least they tell us how they derived that info (via a 4% report rate among an established survey)... And they use he key words "estimated" and "based on this." Meaning- it's not intellectually dishonest. A bit click-baity, but fair play as such things go. I'd just prefer to see the numbers according to more than just the one study... After all, basing everything off a single small study is how we got 1in5-women and such.
/r/MensRights18/11/15 02:00 PM
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So it's official- a man's life is worth less than a woman's pride or income.
/r/MensRights18/11/15 12:53 AM
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Did not know that... Never mind. Carry on.
/r/MensRights17/11/15 07:10 AM
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Broken drum: even if you don't like the site, visit articles on it that support us like this one... If articles that support us never get clicks, the sites that post them will stop. Then we're back to wondering why they never shed light on our issues.
/r/MensRights17/11/15 06:12 AM
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Seriously- every single premise of her video is flat-out wrong. For example: "The purpose of a democratic society is to be involved to make it better." No, not necessarily. Nice ideal, but it presumes good will in a way that ignores free will. Of course, free will spoils everything this one stands for... So by default, what she needs is a tyranny. Which... Kinda comes full circle.
/r/MensRights17/11/15 06:09 AM
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Having worked in the industry (casinos) dram shop law only requires that the business takes reasonable action to insure they leave safely. There's nothing illegal about getting drunk- even medically dangerously drunk... Just with driving that way. So, even if they can apply this to him, they'd have to show that he both knew she was too drunk to drive and that he thought she would drive and that there was something he could've done about it (even just call the cops) but didn't. Since this is old.…
/r/MensRights17/11/15 06:03 AM
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Hmm... Won't load. Did it get deleted?
/r/MensRights16/11/15 09:32 PM
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yep. That's one of the problems I see... but... to be fair, that's a problem with the current system too. Short of requiring every last report to go to police (which is maybe a good idea for several reasons), no system prevents that issue.
/r/MensRights15/11/15 04:41 AM
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But if a misleading title... The data won't be visible by the public or users. Article says that it's a filing/reporting system... Key features being that You don't have to physically interact with another human You can do it right away, or take your time You can finish the he report and then choose for no one to ever see it You can finish the report and then choose for it to submit only when/if there's another report on the same person You can finish the report and then choose for it to submit …
/r/MensRights14/11/15 10:38 PM
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Actually, they're only semi-anon. According to the article, they're anonymous from the app/dev's side... And anon until submitted. The article specifically states that if the report ever goes to the campus, it goes with your basic identifying info. (You can submit immediately, or set it to auto-submit when/if your accused has other pending reports, they all go together.) I see several potential problems with that delay- but anon isn't one of them. Neither are mobs. The database won't be availabl…
/r/MensRights14/11/15 10:33 PM
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FYI- app isn't for male victims. App is for people who feel the need to anonymously get stuff off their chest in the form of a picture with text. I appreciate the uptick in awareness, whatever the source, but article is slightly misleading.
/r/MensRights14/11/15 10:26 PM
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Corollary of which: remember to go to original articles you do like, even if it's a site you don't like. If/when they inevitably experiment with a viewpoint they don't normally show/use... Clicks = support. Edit: not applicable here, but the reminder is useful. Too often, I see people use sites when they should archive, and archive when we need to support an idea.
/r/MensRights13/11/15 06:57 PM
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Or maybe... Cancer isn't sexy. Correct me if I'm wrong.
/r/MensRights13/11/15 06:54 PM
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Only if the complaints aren't discarded. EDIT: misread final paragraph.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 11:12 PM
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This is basically the best case scenario... Assuming they don't drown him out every time he opens his mouth. That said... We also have an admission that free speech is anti-feminist by nature. Allowing him to speak would "jeopardize the security and safety of students” Sticks and stone will break my bones, but words will jeopardize the security and safety of students.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 08:27 PM
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Problem is, the reason they changed it was because they realized a few years back they couldn't charge a woman with statutory rape, because those laws referred to the rape laws, which excluded female attackers... So she got away with it. Glad to see they closed that gaping loophole.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 03:04 PM
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Relevant, but not particularly helpful. I get it. Satire can be a helpful tool for protest, but it's an unreliable one... Doubly so when taken to extremes as here. Anyone remember when SRS was PC/SJW satire? This will either be justly seen as reducto ad absurdum (and we're better than that)... Or unjustly seen as a sign of how dumb and entitled we are.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 09:00 PM
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Remind her that there's this bowl of MnMs...
/r/MensRights11/11/15 08:41 PM
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than a feminist FTFY
/r/MensRights11/11/15 04:10 PM
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Did something weird happen? I'm seeing multiple, unbiased news reports on male victims of sexual assault today. It's a good thing, but... Weird.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 03:55 PM
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Most US states have fixed their wording to be more general... A few have tried and gotten it awkwardly close to where I'm unsure... Last I heard, only 3 still have explicitly gender-specific rape or sexual assault laws. But letter and practice still differ quite a bit, and those changes are recent.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 03:52 PM
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On the plus side- looking at 3 different such stories on this site, every last one uses the word rape, and just... Gives the facts, in a balanced, direct, unbiased way.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 03:50 PM
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Now they want context? You know what, I'm fine with that... But they damn well better apply that yardstick consistently.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 07:45 AM
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Real or not, important point is this: many of those women call misogynist don't hate women, they fear them. And it's not that crazy.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 10:59 PM
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For that matter... Doesn't anybody realize that 76 is shockingly low? I mean, in 2013, all external causes of death combined were 9,325 out of 148,824 listed deaths. That's all external causes combined. (Homicide didn't even make the top 20 causes of death in 2013.) 9,325... out of a population of 23,130,000. 76 is a very, very small number, no matter which of those you compare it to: population, deaths, external causes of death- you pick. (One might even call it so small as to be... A distracti…
/r/MensRights10/11/15 05:27 PM
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$25M isn't anywhere close to enough to bankrupt them. But it is enough for them to be willing to fight over (plus capitulating could look bad and cost them income, unless they can do it quietly).
/r/MensRights09/11/15 09:26 PM
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But don't you get it? Female domestic abusers are the real victims, because by not intervening, we're saying that they're weak, and they have to violently abuse men to prove it. /s
/r/MensRights09/11/15 06:06 PM
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Holy shit... Someone on 2X recommended he come talk to us. And has more up votes than down, didn't get deleted or banned... I mean. What?
/r/MensRights08/11/15 06:39 AM
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6th one down There are a few other lists as well in our resources sub, which you can find linked in the sidebar, that include more recent data... But this is the one I always keep going back to. Also regularly use this which references the scope of data, and how long, how and why we've been ignoring it (spoiler alert: to benefit women). And this which highlights the dangers of the above, as male victims are arrested more often than their attackers, and treated so poorly by the system feminists b…
/r/MensRights07/11/15 07:33 PM
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Wait... So... 16 guys chosen from the 3 most egalitarian services in a country with DV-egalitarian laws said they were mostly satisfied with their care? I mean, this is a good thing. Tells us where we should be. But any and everyone who posts this needs to make note: this is a specialized, fringe case. This is selection bias stacking the deck to look as egalitarian as possible and still falling a little short. By comparison, in the US, with a sample size of 320 (20x the above study): Male victim…
/r/MensRights06/11/15 05:18 PM
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Agreed. I'd like to see a second source, or the transcript itself, at a minimum. It is worth saying though that "protected sources" are old as dirt in reporting.
/r/MensRights04/11/15 06:40 PM
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They're jealous of us because we feel safe. We're jealous of them because they are safe. Boo hoo indeed.
/r/MensRights03/11/15 06:02 PM
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Why do you assume that "learning from an older man" = sex? Perhaps, maybe, just maybe... This whole "male role model" thing we keep hearing is a good thing... Is... A good thing! And maybe, we should stop discouraging it as a society! Then maybe, society would benefit just like all the psych research says it would!
/r/MensRights31/10/15 04:08 AM
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And my counter argument was that common opinion doesn't matter, thus your question/point was moot. I don't need to counter it, because true or not, it has no application to the issue at hand. None. At all.
/r/MensRights30/10/15 05:13 PM
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How about that we don't convict or set people free based on common opinion, much less broad, sweeping generalizations. The law is, by nature, arbitrary, blind, and indifferent to such things. Its enforcement should be as well. Even if the popular opinion were right... Stealing $10,000 from Bill Gates is probably far less damaging to him than stealing $100 from you- but which one is the felony? Sexual assault is sexual assault. Statutory rape is statutory rape. The individual effects on the victi…
/r/MensRights29/10/15 08:58 PM
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Illinois law is worth researching here. They don't technically have "rape" as a crime... Just sexual assault. However... The definition of the same is troubling. Code Section 720 ILCS 5/11-1.20 Sexual Assault Defined as A person commits criminal sexual assault if that person commits an act of sexual penetration and (1) uses force or threat of force; (2) knows the victim lacks capacity to give consent; (3) is a family member of the victim and the victim is under 18 years old; (4) is at least 17 y…
/r/MensRights29/10/15 02:31 PM
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I'm curious what he was even detained for in the first place? He was going to his birth mother's home, but it was unoccupied. If there had been underage drinking or drugs involved, you'd expect an arrest or the other kids to have also been detained.
/r/MensRights29/10/15 02:06 PM
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An article posted here the other day showed a strong correlation between circumcision and STD infectivity, actually. The sample tests that show a decrease compare a group of men who have been circumcised within the last year to a group of men who haven't... And suffer from obvious selection bias as a result of the timing. Obviously, those who have recently been circumcised aren't going to be having sex, on account of having a raw, painful, infection-prone wound. In Malawi, those same groups, com…
/r/MensRights28/10/15 06:22 PM
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Maybe you've just had bad timing. MGM is absolutely one of the big button issues- both in the sidebar, and regular posting. That said, issues around here surge and fall semi-seasonally, for various reasons. As media coverage in a given topic surges, so do posts on it. In, for example, October (being Domestic Violence Awareness Month in the US), DV/IPV male victims get a big focus. When someone like Emma Watson talks to the UN about HeForShe, the double standards of modern feminism get the spotli…
/r/MensRights28/10/15 06:18 PM
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Or just say "Yeah, I know." And see what they say to that.
/r/MensRights21/10/15 07:26 PM
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And as of just this week, there's finally a shelter for them. But just the one.
/r/MensRights21/10/15 04:46 PM
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Useful resource... Can we get homeless added to The section on transitional and emergency housing?
/r/MensRights21/10/15 07:10 AM
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As a professor, I would do exactly that.
/r/MensRights21/10/15 07:07 AM
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Don't forget, a certain lobby that shall remain nameless is pushing for fraud-rape laws in several states (New Jersey is the furthest along, proposed but not yet voted on). This would make it rape if someone lies to you to get you to sleep with them, if you wouldn't have consented had you known the truth. So... I'm confused again. Who raped who?
/r/MensRights20/10/15 11:50 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks/comments/y0mnx/dvipc_summary/ Whole slew of them... Check all of them out.
/r/MensRights20/10/15 05:58 PM
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Great find... It's nice to see NPR finally sees the problem here. Now, if only they'd catch onto the 1-in-5 being bullshit.
/r/MensRights20/10/15 05:54 PM
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Ish. Let me be clear- I'm not siding with him... But the law is clear here: it would be considered justified. Most people are aware of the "reasonable fear for your life" clause, but it's a bit broader. Local laws may vary, but in academy, we were taught that federal law specifies lethal force is considered self-defense / justified when used to: Stop or Prevent The Rape, Kidnapping, Serious Injury or Death Of yourself or another person ...add in that you're innocent until proven guilty beyond a …
/r/MensRights20/10/15 05:10 PM
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I'd be curious to see her poll ratings... Before and after this.
/r/MensRights19/10/15 01:45 PM
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The comments though are fantastic...
/r/MensRights18/10/15 11:35 AM
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Couple key points on legal jargon. In the US, cops can detain someone on reasonable suspicion of a crime, in order to investigate that crime. They can't arrest you unless that investigation upgrades them from "reasonable suspicion" to "probable cause." Reasonable can be fuzzy here, but having received a report of a crime- even a report of someone matching your description having done something that might be a crime- suffices. Detain can also be fuzzy... Since the qualifying trait of an arrest is…
/r/MensRights18/10/15 11:30 AM
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Thanks for the link. The quote from the judge led me to believe otherwise.
/r/MensRights17/10/15 11:55 PM
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Which, as far as I can tell, neither of them directly did. The article about her says he planned it, she only supported/encouraged it. The article about him says he only supported/encouraged it, and the judge decided that was the same as planning it.
/r/MensRights16/10/15 08:35 PM
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Such data is "best guess." Often, even the participants can't recall the first incident... But when polled anonymously, women are far more likely to say they would respond to verbal attacks with physical violence... While most men respond that they respond to physical attacks with physical violence. The divide in that data, combined with the 70/30 split on single-abuser violence, is suggestive, but not remotely conclusive.
/r/MensRights16/10/15 08:32 PM
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Neither did the boy who got a life sentence. Justice Saunders said that after careful consideration he had decided to impose a life sentence with a minimum term of five years. The judge said the boy, now 15, had played a vital part in the plot by encouraging the intended attacker, supporting him and making sure he did not have second thoughts. So... For encouraging the suicide bomber emotionally, he "played a vital role" and gets a life sentence. How is what she did different?
/r/MensRights16/10/15 04:27 PM
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Well, there was that woman who forced her kids to eat their own flesh...
/r/MensRights15/10/15 02:23 PM
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Initiate, yeah. That's part of the problem in sussing all this out though. Most people seem to have a hard time comprehending mutually abusive relationships as a thing. IIRC our best data shows 50-55% of all DV is mutual, with the initiator unclear (although other, unrelated studies have shown what you say, it's hard to mix data like that)... Due to mutual escalation, this is also the chunk that results in he most injuries, with the 60/40 split I mentioned in ER visits. Of the 45% that's left, y…
/r/MensRights15/10/15 02:21 PM
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This is a case of the way it's being presented being misleading. Let's assume 20 men and 20 women. That would give us 3 male and 5 female DV victims. Which is a ratio of 37.5% male-victim. Even our sources can't seem to agree on anything precise, but generally run between 33% and 50%. I typically use 40%, since that's what the ER records show is the division on serious injury. (1) This is right in that window... So it's pretty good. (1) This is especially useful because it cuts a couple argument…
/r/MensRights15/10/15 12:57 AM
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Protesting her and censoring her are two different things. Post reviews on iTunes taking down her arguments and ratings, by all means. That's taking action, ja? But you also didn't answer my question- has she ever been pro-censorship? If so, I could see this as a just deserts kind of situation.
/r/MensRights14/10/15 02:42 PM
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Let's be more targeted. At any point, has she ever herself pushed for censoring viewpoints she sees as hate speech? If so, yeah, I'll report her. Otherwise... I'm with that guy.
/r/MensRights13/10/15 02:28 PM
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Assuming of course that she also resigns from all higher education. After all- if you can throw someone out for plagiarism... Or something.
/r/MensRights13/10/15 06:53 AM
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Some of them have weighed in. The worst any of them has managed to say is that "it was unfortunate it happened without his consent" "but way funnier because wang" and promptly dove into commentary on it's size like everyone else.
/r/MensRights12/10/15 09:30 PM
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Archiving for the sake of posterity is good... But when someone writes an article that, as you say, represents good journalism... Can I recommend we use the actual link? Yes, yes, the website benefits from our traffic then... But they also track which articles draw people. If the articles we agree with never make any money, because we never go to them, we shouldn't be surprised when the media ignores or misrepresents us. Boycotts only work when you boycott the bad and support the good. When you …
/r/MensRights12/10/15 09:07 PM
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So. Many. Questions. Over the course of my advocacy, I've found myself becoming a focal point and often sole source of social support for several male victims of sexual assault and domestic violence... Mostly friends and coworkers I'd known for years, who'd thought they were alone, and had been hiding it for years before I spoke up. Since approaching me, I've held 1-on-1 meetings with each, on a semi-regular basis... Including a couple semi-emergency cases. I only shared my story with about 150 …
/r/MensRights10/10/15 09:44 AM
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I haven't researched the county she's in- but where I live, yeah- that's the gist of it. And yes, those laws were pushed by feminist groups. Well-intended, I'm sure... But entirely counterproductive. If you want DV victims (men and women both) to press charges more often... You don't do it by forcing their hands or treating them like children.
/r/MensRights10/10/15 09:18 AM
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I misspoke, repeatedly. Apologies. Mandatory Reporting is as you describe it. Mandatory arrest is as I describe it. I haven't checked Florida or he county in question specifically, so if they lack such- then I'm speaking entirely out of place... But where I live, this is the standard.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 11:48 PM
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Pressuring her to press charges is not the same as... No. It's not the same. First they pressure and then they also force. Seriously. In some states, for DV calls, if one person appears injured or in distress, officers are required by law to arrest someone and the DA required by law to press charges on the victim's behalf, even if the victim refuses. Even if the person who called them says "no, go away. You're not allowed to come in." They're required to go in. Even if the person who called them…
/r/MensRights09/10/15 05:21 PM
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No- but frequently, police are called to DV to provide an out, not an arrest... (Which, having been in law enforcement, is dumb.)... And that's how, often, it has worked. They interrupt, the victim says no charges, the cops leave. "No victim, no crime" is a well known saying for precisely this reason... Cops know they're wasting their time if there's no one to press charges. We don't know enough specifics to look up the case, but we know the judge and state. It's likely charges were pressed on h…
/r/MensRights09/10/15 04:37 PM
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No, I know that... But you're missing a link in the chain. She wanted charges dropped. In any other crime, she could drop charges and not show up. With DV, in many states, due to mandatory reporting laws, the state presses charges for her, even if she doesn't want. She had to show up because of the right to face your accuser, as you say. But she was forced to be an accuser in the first place by the state because of mandatory reporting laws, which were pushed by feminism to protect women.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 04:03 PM
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Truthfully- she should have shown up, because letting him walk free and abuse someone else so she can get a 1-week head start on "moving on" is kind of awful. But. She should not be forced to show up either. This is the result of mandatory reporting laws, though... Which we can thank feminism for.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 03:20 PM
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It's a federal crime not to register. I recall something about convicts not being able to vote, at least in several states. And no- it hasn't been called in a while, but On the day I turned 18, I was forced to sign a contract or go to jail. Who the fuck cares what was in the contract... That's. Not. Ok. Given the contract stated that I would drop my entire life to serve the nation in time of war or national emergency if called- like it or not- it's an especially big deal I think. I can refuse co…
/r/MensRights07/10/15 12:58 AM
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Agreed. We can't. The author is as slanted as she is, in the other direction. Former Trump supporter. That said... We're talking about multiple independent sources going back decades, going at least as far back as Governor of Arkansas, all saying the same thing. Many of those sources loyal left-wing democrats. Many of them people who worked for her husband, and you'd expect to support her.
/r/MensRights06/10/15 03:26 AM
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Multiple sources, going back decades, all independently describing the same behaviors. No one here is saying she's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Frankly, this most recent book was written by someone as slanted as she is, and can be generally ignored... But the other sources, not so much. And the more sources there are, the harder it is to reasonably doubt.
/r/MensRights06/10/15 03:23 AM
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Or, that the cheating was an escape? Seeking affection and comfort he badly needed but couldn't get? Well, why not leave, and go get it? Well- that's a valid question for every DV victim ever, and the answer's always the same- the abuser makes leaving seem worse, and hiding/enduring the abuse seem best. Maybe that's giving Bill too much credit in your book- and that may be fair... But at the very least, the cheating may have been a reaction of the "if I'm going to get punished anyway, I may as w…
/r/MensRights05/10/15 03:05 PM
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HeForShe: women need men to help them with their problems, because working together is good for everyone Toxic Masculinity: fix it yourself, why should I help you?
/r/MensRights03/10/15 08:47 PM
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Admittedly, it's long as hell... but exhaustive in the best ways... comprehensive, well sourced and cited, even includes interviews with several experts on both sides of the fence.
/r/MensRights01/10/15 04:20 AM
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If my mother murdered my father, I'm not sure if want her to be proud of me... Anyway- only 15, in the entire U.S., since 1976? Doesn't matter how disproportionate you think violence is- that's unbelievable.
/r/MensRights30/09/15 06:04 AM
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It's worth remembering- the draft doesn't mandate combat service, and it absolutely doesn't mandate special forces service. A good chunk of the military is support services- bureaucrats, mechanics, medics, etc. Men incapable (physically or mentally) of serving in a combat role are shuffled into whatever position they can do. They're not given a pass- they're still pressed into involuntary service. At a desk, or as a mechanic, or whatever... Thus freeing up whoever held that post to move to the f…
/r/MensRights29/09/15 05:57 AM
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1- granted, I didn't read the actual transcript 2- maybe I misread, but the whole appeal was based off the court being hostile, due to the judge's refusal to answer the question. Both appeals ended with a statement as to the answer the judge should have given, with the conviction overturned and remanded back to lower courts (meaning they reserve opinion on his status as either guilty or not guilty, and a retrial is necessary). Thus, it was a mistrial only due to the judge's hostility, due to the…
/r/MensRights28/09/15 06:01 PM
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Statistically, women also apparently vote more often, because they're closer to 60% of the vote... But we can't really hold that against anyone but the ppl not voting.
/r/MensRights28/09/15 08:20 AM
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The final appeal specifically mandated a retrial... And jurors aren't supposed to know anything about previous trials in cases like this... So, yeah. That said- DA's know that the statistical chance of getting a conviction tanks after even one mistrial, and he's had 2... I can only think of 2 reasons we can't find any digital record of the third attempt- either it's currently on-going... Or the DA decided to drop it.
/r/MensRights26/09/15 12:36 AM
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Trial 1- mistrial. Trial 2- guilty. Trial 2, appeal 1- mistrial, but probably not guilty due to precedent. Needs to be re-tried. Trial 2, appeal 2- mistrial, but probably guilty. Needs to be re-tried. Trial 3 isn't mentioned anywhere... I mean, anywhere. I can't find it.
/r/MensRights25/09/15 08:55 PM
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Yes. Not because he was innocent though. Which means the courts have ruled that this was rape, they just can't get this particular guy on it because they screwed up. And given that even the witness says the 2nd guy asked for consent, got it, she withdrew consent, and he stopped within seconds... This is a reasonable debate to have.
/r/MensRights25/09/15 07:51 PM
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Ah, but in this case... There are 3 stages to this event. 1st: she says all three in the car intimidating her. They both say this never happened. 2nd: first guy has sex with her. She says rape, he says not rape, but plead guilty for a lower sentence. Both agree the second guy wasn't here for this. 3rd: the one we're debating here... He-said: they never even had sex, because he was inexperienced and scared, couldn't get it in. They aborted and parted ways amicably. She-said: he asks for consent. …
/r/MensRights25/09/15 07:47 PM
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But in this case, he stopped within seconds. Th conviction was overturned on technicality, not on criminality. So how fast do you need to stop? Is pausing, saying "what? Oh." and then pulling out rape?
/r/MensRights25/09/15 07:36 PM
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Even the victim said he stopped within seconds. The court ruled that wasn't good enough. (The overturned the conviction on technicality only, upholding the ruling in general.) So what is?
/r/MensRights25/09/15 07:32 PM
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Yet, the state Supreme Court (who made that statement) said that they only overturned the original case on technicality, that he was in fact guilty of rape in this case. Given that even the victim says he asked for consent, got it, and then stopped within seconds of being asked to... They are at the very least saying stopping after consent is withdrawn isn't good enough.
/r/MensRights25/09/15 07:28 PM
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I think it's fairly safe to believe her side. Review: she says the second guy asked for consent before starting, she gave it, she withdrew it, he stopped within seconds.
/r/MensRights25/09/15 07:24 PM
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Even the victim said he asked for consent before starting, and stopped within seconds of her saying stop, then left on good terms. The bit that confuses me is the first guy's guilty plea?
/r/MensRights25/09/15 07:21 PM
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This. Read the final ruling- by the state Supreme Court: Withdrawing consent at any time negates initial consent. If you haven't withdrawn by the time she withdraws consent, it's now rape... Possibly retroactively.
/r/MensRights25/09/15 07:19 PM
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It... Sort of got tossed. The final appeal, to the state Supreme Court ruled that the decision to convict him was correct, but needed to be thrown out on technicality.
/r/MensRights25/09/15 07:17 PM
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It got re-appealed, to the state Supreme Court. They upheld the ruling, but overturned the trial on technicality... ie, that he would be guilty but the judge screwed up so we have to let this one go.
/r/MensRights25/09/15 07:15 PM
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The final appeal overturned the conviction on technicality, but upheld it on premise: they said "yes, he's absolutely guilty, and the judge should have told the jury he was guilty, but because he didn't, it's a mistrial." The specific phrasing of the ruling is also troubling. It says withdrawal of consent negates the original consent... Not that it ceases to be consensual, that it retroactively never was consensual. Under one interpretation, if I have sex with a woman for 5 minutes, and then she…
/r/MensRights25/09/15 07:13 PM
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Coolest bit of all this, to me... Every post of this I've yet seen on reddit... Overwhelming support for the MHRM on this. Well, no one calls us by name, but they lay out the issue pretty well exactly as we know it.
/r/MensRights22/09/15 04:53 PM
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No intent, no crime, as a rule of thumb. That rule was tacitly ignored by the judge.
/r/MensRights21/09/15 08:22 AM
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Ish. Maybe. It sounds like the whole sentence is being reviewed, as if it were an entirely new trial.
/r/MensRights21/09/15 08:20 AM
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And that would be the end of my military career right there if I had one.
/r/MensRights21/09/15 04:49 AM
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Please think of visiting those articles that bring up good points, while not visiting those that don't. Archive, for posterity, but visit the ones like this, even when they're from a source that's done us over in the past. They track exactly which articles get hits and which ones don't. Vote with your feet on an article by article basis, and maybe they'll pay more attention to us than they do right now. Ignore these articles, and they'll go in the rubbish bin.
/r/MensRights21/09/15 04:46 AM
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Which is a reason to get a bigger sample size.
/r/MensRights20/09/15 09:34 PM
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Justifies female sexism because of childbirth and other female issues... Offers swap. Ok, sure. You can go die in a war you didn't want. Women aren't the only ones who have unique obstacles.
/r/MensRights18/09/15 05:12 PM
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Affirmative action makes sense for all of about 10 minutes. It is to social inequality what first aid is to a seeping gut wound... Useful in the very, very short term... But damaging if you keep relying on it exclusively.
/r/MensRights18/09/15 05:04 PM
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This is pretty much the ideal situation, as far as proving our point, and undercutting any counter-arguments completely. Same city, same year means no cultural differences... Legal differences or precedence... Nothing explains this. The boy was even younger than the girl, so even though age of consent is somewhat arbitrary, there's no age of consent you can pick at all that explains this away. Yeah. Perfect. Good find, OP.
/r/MensRights18/09/15 05:02 PM
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I have a burner email address too, for initial contact, that I'm willing to share via PM. I'd share it here, but would rather not waste t on some troll observer. Also, I'm less concerned with such issues than maybe wise, due my background... But your guys' advice is well given and well taken.
/r/MensRights17/09/15 06:45 AM
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Saint Louis... Got a group already, anyone local is welcome to PM me.
/r/MensRights16/09/15 06:42 AM
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He's still in the "far more good than harm" camp, by my tally. I'm not a fan of voting for the lesser of two evils... But neither do I demand perfection or perfect agreement before I'll support someone.
/r/MensRights15/09/15 06:41 AM
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We talk about all kinds of ways they can close the gap, by, say, working the high-risk high-reward tasks like we do... Or choosing higher-demand degrees. We also talk all the time about how men should be freer not to need to make the same choices (family and personal life over career) that cost them that 23¢.
/r/MensRights15/09/15 06:39 AM
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At least they're honest?
/r/MensRights15/09/15 06:33 AM
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Alcohol is blood thinner and general depressant, so it can have an affect on things, yes... But not necessarily enough of an effect to matter. That said, when guys talk about their junk having a mind of its own, we're being serious. Arousal can cause erections, but so can any stimulation (up to and including one's own underwear while walking), a full bladder, or just autonomic function (the brain triggering one just to make sure the physical stuff still works). None of this is conscious, under o…
/r/MensRights14/09/15 07:51 PM
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Not only that, but the comments are surprisingly consistent... In a good way. Normally, on this topic, the best we can hope for is inconsistently good.
/r/MensRights13/09/15 10:55 AM
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No real way of knowing, given a few problems: 1- few enough studies actually bother to check male victims. 2- few enough studies bother to check female perpetrators 3- wide spectrum of definitions in use by various studies for "sexual assault" make it unclear what we're actually talking about at times. That said, some decent guidelines exist... 1- check studies on domestic violence. The UK in particular is doing due diligence in the research on male victims here, as of the last year or two. This…
/r/MensRights13/09/15 10:33 AM
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Granted, those comments are awful... But he thread I'm looking at now... Those comments have stabilized right around where you have them. The comments that are up voted into the hundreds mostly advise "document, report, plan an out that will legally work for you as a guy"... For every mid-level comment like the ones you cite, I see several similarly ranked responses along the lines of "he's the victim" and "yeah, right, call the cops. He's more likely to go to jail than her." And so on. I wish t…
/r/MensRights13/09/15 10:09 AM
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No problem, and welcome aboard. I do certainly appreciate that it's not a purely black-and-white issue. Medical need trumps all else... I just don't see it as medically necessary except in a few rare cases.
/r/MensRights11/09/15 02:12 PM
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Sorry to hear that. Like others have said- connection is normal, even some "ballooning" during urination... But for it to progress to a serious infection means your case is one of the fringe examples where there's a serious problem... And circumcision may well be the best way to handle it. Sucks, but this isn't exactly a black-and-white issue... And I'm happy to admit that.
/r/MensRights11/09/15 04:49 AM
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To say nothing of the life-threatening infections, near misses, complete botches that seriously mutilate, and so on.
/r/MensRights11/09/15 04:46 AM
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And, the moment there was an infection (or the immediate risk of one), it became a medical treatment, not a cosmetic surgery. That changes everything.
/r/MensRights11/09/15 04:45 AM
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That doesn't sound that weird. You've also never known anything else. That said, odds are, the girls in question haven't known anything else either. Maybe you and they only prefer cut because (in the U.S.) it's mostly normal, and you and they prefer normal... Or prefer what they're used to. Anyway... Personally, even if it weirded most girls out, I could get over that if my orgasms were twice as good, and had half the down-time afterwards...
/r/MensRights11/09/15 04:43 AM
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Removal of the breast is far more complex than the removal of male foreskin. True, and breast cancer is almost 100,000 times more common then penis cancer… Lifetime risk of developing penis cancer is around one in 500,000. It is literally one of the rarest forms of cancer known to man. Phimosis is equally rare, and by the time a child is old enough to be at risk of getting an STD, you can tell them what a condom is. Lifetime risk of breast cancer, on the other hand, runs around 1 in 8. So even i…
/r/MensRights11/09/15 04:37 AM
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Fair enough... But I might note that you also know no other way to be, and the preference you and those girls have may be a preference for normalcy - which just so happens to be (in the U.S.) cut. In Europe, I'd imagine the preference differs. I'd imagine it would differ here if we weren't doing it more often than not. Even if it weren't- would you consider trading that small change in appearance for a penis with twice the nerve endings, twice the orgasm, and half the recovery time between orgas…
/r/MensRights10/09/15 07:46 PM
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I can compare it to a breast fairly easily: Both are sexually sensitive. Both perform valuable but technically unnecessary roles (protecting the glans, feeding children). Both can be removed preventatively to reduce risk of associated disease (although, as breast cancer is far more common, one would expect mastectomies to be commonplace)... Or to treat said disease. Except in rare cases, neither is medically necessary to remove- any alterations are considered cosmetic. He only major difference i…
/r/MensRights10/09/15 12:43 PM
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I covered most of those, but ok: Easier hygiene... Only marginally easier. As an adult: You pull it back, use soap. Ta-da. Circumcision saves you all of 2 seconds per shower as an adult. As a baby, warm water. Reduced risk of urinary tract infections: yes, but only among those who don't clean at all. Reduced risk of sexually transmitted diseases: yes, but only by about 0.5-1.0%. The risk, as a male, of getting HIV from a woman during PIV is already minimal, and while this reduces said minimal ri…
/r/MensRights10/09/15 05:34 AM
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The foreskin contains ~40% of the penis' nerve endings. It also serves to protect the hyper-sensitive glans from overstimulation. Without it, the glans eventually keratinizes (becoming less sensitive and hardening slightly). Circumcision was introduced to the American public as a means of deliberately reducing male sexual pleasure and masturbation (both of which were viewed as sinful, and to it's American originator- even in marriage, sex was supposed to be a duty not a pleasure). The CDC curren…
/r/MensRights10/09/15 03:05 AM
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Yes and no. Very few people have been both (as adults) to say one way or the other... And of those, it's been mixed results, because at least initially there's not much difference. The foreskin has about 40% of the nerve endings in your penis, so losing that is a hit to sensitivity... But it also serves to protect the smaller hyper-sensitive glans from overstimulation, so at first, orgasms may get more intense as you overstimulate every time... Constant exposure also causes the glans to keratini…
/r/MensRights09/09/15 06:28 PM
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We don't bash on anybody, cut or otherwise. That said... When I was a baby, I had needless cosmetic surgery performed on my junk, that would forever reduce my sexual experience. Seriously- 40% of my nerve endings gone, simply because it was common practice to do the surgery. A surgery which, btw, dates back to a guy trying to prevent teenage masturbation by deliberately reducing sexual experience... Even if my parents didn't realize that was the purpose- the design- of the surgery... They made a…
/r/MensRights09/09/15 01:22 PM
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I must be doing it wrong then. It's the nation's 3rd or 4th largest con, and known for being the cosplayer's con...
/r/MensRights09/09/15 01:15 PM
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Conflicted is fine... In fact, perfect. Cause this is a big deal, and the only person who didn't get a say was you. May I ask why you're glad? Second: Even if it were a good thing, wouldn't you be happier if it had been your choice?
/r/MensRights09/09/15 01:14 PM
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Agreed (to some degree)- but like I said... Those street corners are usually taken by Westbrook-types telling everyone that they're going to hell because Tolkien is of the devil or some such bs. It's good to see something rational in their stead.
/r/MensRights09/09/15 01:03 PM
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Can confirm. I am neither a girl, nor do I have a foreskin... And clearly, I'm not talking about it.... Oh wait. Yeah- you can safely assume that the majority of guys talking about it are circumcised- because the majority of guys in the nations where this is an issue are circumcised. Do you need us to show you our junk every time we mention it, to satisfy your concerns about who's talking?
/r/MensRights09/09/15 12:59 PM
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There were at least 2 groups that I saw, on street corners with these signs... mix of guys and girls. Had to get a pic, and give them props for being out there. They also had fliers, and were willing to actually stop and talk the issue out with anyone who'd listen... but they weren't being aggressive either. Given that the street corners are usually taken by Westboro types... it's a fantastic improvement.
/r/MensRights09/09/15 01:58 AM
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Uh... I'm Midwest. Born in Ohio, live in Missouri. So, uh... Fuck off. And also, fuck off. Your utter devaluing of human life doesn't represent anyone but you.
/r/MensRights07/09/15 07:27 PM
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But one is too many! One man, I mean. /s? (Ha ha sob)
/r/MensRights06/09/15 09:56 PM
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Draconian revivalists?
/r/MensRights06/09/15 01:22 AM
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Conjecture: He didn't... OP said he got a paternity test right away. $50 says he probably thought that was sufficient.
/r/MensRights31/08/15 06:49 PM
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Which is the awkward bit of our semi-conflict status with feminism... They do get some things right some of the time, they just tend to either take it too far, or try to apply the same theory to every problem. They're the living embodiment of "When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail." The article's coverage of the issue as it was addressed in South Korea seems like a solid case for patriarchy theory being applicable, as long as you don't run it into the ground... But the w…
/r/MensRights31/08/15 04:23 PM
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Which is the point where the uneven power dynamic becomes... drumroll Abusive. Unfortunately, the only fix is to walk away. It won't be easy, or fun... but it's the only way to clear your own head, and stop the pattern once it's started.
/r/MensRights28/08/15 02:12 PM
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I recommend going old-school. Unrequited love. Because that's what it fucking is. It's not about sex. Frankly, every time I hear about how I feel entitled to sex, I want to slap someone. Women, hear me: If it were just about orgasms, I. Don't. Need. You. The poets (men and women both) have been writing about unrequited love for as long as there has been written language, and probably longer. Only in the last decade or so have we decided that it must actually be about sex, or bad male attitudes..…
/r/MensRights28/08/15 05:50 AM
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If you look forward to chaos, fire and bloodshed, that's on you. Personally, I do have high hopes for what comes after, but even then, I'm not sure anyone who's studied history can "look forward" to that... Revolutions make things worse as often as better. So, you look forward to rolling the dice in the bloodiest way possible, while we look forward to trying to do everything possible in the right order to make a better world (rather than jumping straight to the screaming and death stage)... ... …
/r/MensRights27/08/15 01:22 PM
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Maybe your quotes would've held more meaning if you didn't apparently feel the need to put everything as quotes. Everything. It comes across as an Appeal to Authority fallacy (whether it is or not)... And undermines your premise. I agree that some manner of revolution is inevitable in my country, but in a general sense, in the same kind of way that people say California's due for "Another Big One" earthquake. They happen from time to time- and are necessary from time to time. I think we're overd…
/r/MensRights27/08/15 12:14 AM
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I suppose so, but given that a couple investigators for a reality tv show were able to turn up sufficient evidence on a second pass years afterwards (and evidence has a shelf life)... It makes you wonder.
/r/MensRights23/08/15 08:58 PM
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It's an argument (although I think you tackled it more directly, and better) that I've used for quite some time, and very successfully. That said, maybe I'm lucky. Most of the people I know who would claim the title of feminist are of the open camp. A couple of them have become convinced to abandon the label... A few others are unwilling because that feels like some sort of betrayal, when they still hope to save the sinking ship... But almost all of them are on board with our issues and frequent…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 04:49 PM
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She told them that he shot himself in the back of his head... And they bought it. For 3 years. ...
/r/MensRights22/08/15 04:40 PM
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Several have tried to do just that... Most famously (around here), a guy in Canada who got his funding cut and eventually committed suicide. The biggest such group in the UK had been incredibly successful until they, too, got their funding slashed. I'm trying in my city- as an entirely informal kind of support group. The extent we can provide anything is through each other... So far, so good, but it's limited.
/r/MensRights22/08/15 04:33 PM
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Damn. I'm sorry man. The real tragic part is... your story is every bit predictable. Multiple studies have shown that domestic violence is close to 50/50... AND that when men are abused, calling the cops is a dangerous gamble. You're almost twice as likely to be arrested as your abuser, thanks to Duluth-based training and mandatory arrest laws... You absolutely need a lawyer. I realize that's an expense you may not be able to manage, but the deck is stacked against you, and this can end up haunt…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 07:41 AM
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Just wait till he owes child support.
/r/MensRights22/08/15 03:05 AM
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Yeah, I've seen other articles that were better about compartmentalize get the issues... Cause really, there are 3: 1- That prison rape happens at all / that we allow it to happen. 2- That some people consider it karmic and/or a deterrent "bonus feature" of the prison system... And many more don't care or can't be bothered by it. 3- And that some people find jokes about it funny. This article tries to cover all 3 at once, and doesn't do a great job of it... And ends up focusing on the 3rd one. T…
/r/MensRights21/08/15 07:54 PM
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How about if, instead of "signs of humanity" the OP had said "signs of consistency"? I mean- we see headlines all the time about women being convicted (or given a pass) for abusing minors, having child porn, etc... Not once ever have I seen any of those articles crack a joke about how much she'll get raped, much less say with a straight face that she deserves to. This article isn't about censorship. It's about the news site in question finally taking male-victim rape as seriously as they take fe…
/r/MensRights21/08/15 03:04 PM
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First- they wouldn't know he older child wasn't his unless they'd done a blood test on the older child, making him a patient. Second- they wouldn't know either child was a non-match to the father, unless they had the father's blood test to compare it to, making the father a patient. (In either case, maybe not a current patient, but the father would/should have legal access to the record anyway) Finally- at what point does the whole thing become absurd? If the child needs a blood transfusion, but…
/r/MensRights19/08/15 08:36 PM
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I like green and the pimp comment. Well played.
/r/MensRights19/08/15 04:30 PM
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The case above though describes both a fetus and an older child, neither of whom are his according t the blood test. While HIPPA may block him from finding about the fetus (as the mother is the only patient involved)... Wouldn't the older child be a different story? After all, the father has legal access to their medical history, and to make medical decisions for the child. If he's not allowed to know the child is or isn't his- how is he allowed access to anything? And if he's legally blocked fr…
/r/MensRights19/08/15 04:26 PM
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Fair. Everyone in this thread seems fixated on the case with the fetus, not the baby/toddler/etc. But the case above includes both- and the ethicist said the father has no right to know for either the fetus or the toddler. Which seems to me a bridge too far. I'll see if I can't hunt down the medical lawyer.
/r/MensRights19/08/15 04:20 PM
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Thanks for the laugh, stranger. Again, I get how, medically, the fetus is considered part of the mother, and thus she's the sole patient. I also understand HIPPA. But with the 2yo kid... When a blood test shows clearly that there's no link- both the child and father having been tested... I think the father has a right to know, and HIPPA probably shouldn't apply, as there are 2 patients in that scenario- neither of which is the mother. One being the father, and the other being someone whose recor…
/r/MensRights19/08/15 04:15 AM
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I understand HIPAA. I'm just pretty sure t doesn't apply: If they tested the fathers DNA for whatever reason they could tell him. They found out because of a blood type mismatch, which proves that he's not the father. They needed a sample from both the father and the child for this to be the case. You're saying they can't tell him because they tested the child's blood, not the father's... But they had to test it against the father's to show a non-match. Meaning, they did test the father's blood.…
/r/MensRights19/08/15 12:47 AM
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But the scenario also specifies an older child who is also revealed by testing not to be the father's... And the ethicist gives the same advice- he's not allowed to know.
/r/MensRights18/08/15 05:14 PM
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Problem: If they can't legally inform him of the state of a child's health, then neither can he legally authorize any medical procedures for that child. Let's be clear- either he has legal authority over his child's health care and record, or doesn't. If he does, he gets to know that the child isn't his. If he doesn't, when the child gets sick or breaks a bone, the father can't authorize treatment for any future injuries. Doc: "Sorry, johnnie, we can't give you pain meds for your broken arm unti…
/r/MensRights18/08/15 05:12 PM
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If you follow the links, this happened in Texas. Assault is a misdemeanor with up to a 1 yr jail sentence, aggravated assault a felony with 2-10 years prison... But attacking a romantic partner or family member ramps thugs up. ("ramp things up", maybe?) DV (either) includes an automatic 5yr ban on owning a firearm, lifetime ban outside the home, automatic protection order, possible mandatory classes and/or paying the victim's legal fees. DV (assault) second offense is a felony with 2-10 yrs pris…
/r/MensRights18/08/15 12:46 PM
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I never said meaningless. I said that calling something more serious because it's more common is inhumane. I believe I even acknowledged that the regularity is noteworthy. So, when I tell you not to dismiss the minority, you respond by mockingly dismiss the majority... Claiming that it shows I'm irrational? Do you see the irony? I'm telling you not to dismiss anyone. No one's suffering is meaningless. No one. I would think any decent human being could understand that.
/r/MensRights18/08/15 12:40 PM
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So... Following the links, they're in Texas. By their law, this isn't a sexual assault... But it is assault, and might be aggravated assault as incendiaries are listed as deadly weapons. Texas law does some extra special interesting things with assault charges where an intimate partner, dating partner, family member or child are involved. ~~~ • Assault is normally a class A misdemeanor, up to 1yr jail • DV: automatic protection order for up to 2yrs • DV: automatically blocked from possession of …
/r/MensRights17/08/15 10:41 PM
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You lost me at "more serious" though. Granted, there is a disparity here, but there's also a strong disparity in abuse- both of spouses and children, where women are overwhelmingly the abusers not the victims. If that made it more serious when a man is abused by a woman, would it justify ignoring women who are abused? Fuck no. Matter of fact, society is fine with ignoring men who are abused even though it's more common than the other way around. More serious? Tell that to the corpse. Tell that t…
/r/MensRights17/08/15 09:44 PM
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That one's a direct link, this one to an archived page... That said- if we really want to encourage this kind of media awareness of our issues, the way to do that is to visit the real page. Even if you don't like the site or source normally- they track which stories get hits, and drop authors and topics that don't get views. In this case, archive view actually reduces our cause's visibility. Go to the other thread, guys.
/r/MensRights17/08/15 06:11 PM
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Right. Point though being that OP is closer than the media. Hell, even the guys who ran the 1-in-5 study have said it was bad... Small sample size in a limited region, lots of selection bias due to setup...
/r/MensRights16/08/15 08:02 PM
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Others here have done that math, and it works out nearly the same... Instead of an under-reporting not rate of 99.92% (only 0.08% report)... IIRC, it would have to be 99.6% (only 0.4% report).
/r/MensRights16/08/15 10:49 AM
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Easy answer: Did the patriarchy build the domestic violence shelters? No. Feminism did. So, when those shelters refuse to support men, or even acknowledge them... it's not the "Patriarchy's" fault. It's feminism's. Maybe they meant well, but the collateral damage is unacceptable. And if they deny the existence of male victims... woooo... throw a few of these at them.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 06:05 AM
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Fair. Thought I'd share something for ppl to chuckle about... And that might give them a quick and easy (& conversation-starting) rebuttal in case this is something they hear from time to time.
/r/MensRights12/08/15 01:10 AM
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Maybe we're not holding a discussion- but this can be helpful. After all- the "if only men..." thing is something feminists say from time to time. This gives guys here a nice, quick rebuttal that could start a conversation outside our circle. That's useful, IMO.
/r/MensRights12/08/15 01:08 AM
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He was 12. He's lucky he didn't get accused.
/r/MensRights10/08/15 11:11 PM
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In this case, the shrink found that she didn't have a specific sexual attraction to children. Apparently, she just regularly forgets that sex isn't how you express "normal" familial affection. Which, if anything, seems worse to me than pedophilia.
/r/MensRights10/08/15 05:39 PM
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That's the big one that flooded the news. There was another, broader one, that covered multiple disciplines in education hiring plus administrative... But it was less publicized, possibly because it showed explicitly that women were more biased than men, as well as that both were mostly pro-women. Unfortunately, reddit's search function is kinda craptastic, so I'll keep looking, but don't hold a lot of hope.
/r/MensRights10/08/15 05:37 PM
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The court psychologist found that she wasn't a pedophile, but instead had allowed her feelings of care and nurturing for the boy to develop into a sexual relationship And failed to recognise her feelings for the boy were completely inappropriate. Yes. Sounds like exactly the kind of person you want having time with their own child. /s
/r/MensRights10/08/15 01:22 PM
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Which, oddly, applies pretty well to female-on-male cis/het abuse too.
/r/MensRights09/08/15 03:04 AM
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Not at my computer, but there was also a huge news story earlier in the year about universities. Huge, mostly, because it showed a 2:1 STEM bias... In favor of women. But detail showed in general that in most fields (exceptions being philosophy and accounting IIRC), there was a slight pro-female bias across the board. Broken down by gender of the recruiter, the women always had a pro-female bias, often a strong one... and the men's biased tended to be milder, and vary by subject/department.
/r/MensRights08/08/15 12:37 AM
1

Yep. Hit me up in PM if you ever want to chat IRL about any of this. They come and go, but I've got about a dozen guys in the group. Quality dudes too.
/r/MensRights07/08/15 03:27 AM
1

There's some fuzziness in the definitions. Sexual assault covers any and all non-consensual sexual encounter, from groping and kissing all the way up to sex. Molestation is sort of a sub-term for sexual assault of a child. Rape is pretty well limited to sex (oral, anal, vaginal, by a person or object) without consent, obtained by force or threat (including no physical threats, such as threat of arrest, social threats if taken seriously, etc) or from someone who is legally incapacitated. The fuzz…
/r/MensRights06/08/15 03:23 PM
7

Convictions, no... Because it happens so rarely that police are even called, or arrest the right person. But here's this: The Help-seeking Experiences of Men Who Sustain Intimate Partner Violence Among other things, it points out that when men are abused and call the cops: 33.3% of the time the man (victim) is arrested. 26.5% of the time the woman (abuser) is arrested. Once arrested, 88.4% of those victims are put in jail (29.7% of all male victims). 81.8% of those abusers are put in jail (22% o…
/r/MensRights02/08/15 08:47 PM
24

Maybe now that it's a race issue we can get some of our cut funding back?
/r/MensRights30/07/15 01:42 PM
12

Look at the sample size. Way more women than men are polled. And you'd have to be a fucking idiot to think the results didn't control for this. If we poll 300000000000000000000000 women and 300000 men, and get "1 out of 5 women are abusive while 1 out of 10 men are abusive" the disparity in sample sizes is odd, but doesn't skew the results as phrased. Less odd, in this case, given the poll was at a college, where the ratio of women to men hovers between 3:2 and 2:1... Making the results an accur…
/r/MensRights28/07/15 09:51 PM
1

It is the right place. This story's been high on our radar since it happened... But this is the first petition I've seen. Don't know if it'll do any good, but I think we can all afford to throw away 30 seconds on the off chance.
/r/MensRights26/07/15 08:08 PM
12

So... In response to them refusing to pay, the state is going to check to make sure they're supposed to pay?
/r/MensRights26/07/15 08:06 PM
2

Assuming I can get who it's attributed to, I'd be happy to tack all mine on to it.
/r/MensRights26/07/15 08:04 PM
12

Because the media told him we were the same thing. Because they couldn't be bothered to do the real research, and probably only checked wikipedia or asked feminism.
/r/MensRights25/07/15 04:51 AM
8

And there's your problem. We are not the "manosphere"... We are not PUAs or red pillers (there may be overlap in individual members, but so what?) We don't care about picking up women or bitching about relationships. We do exactly what it says on the tin... If it doesn't have something to do men's rights, it's not men's rights activism. So, mostly, we don't care if you're gay or straight, unless your status as a gay man means you're being discriminated in a way that gay women aren't. Which is, m…
/r/MensRights25/07/15 04:49 AM
1

One thing to remember: Numerous studies have shown (mostly by way of subjective experience, verified though by FMRI and blood tests) have shown that estrogen is gasoline... Testosterone is jet fuel. This analogy works on so many levels... Gasoline is easier to light because it evaporates more easily (it's the fumes that burn), and burns gently most of the time. Jet fuel is a lot harder to light, but burns hotter and explosively if contained. Rocket fuel doesn't even need to evaporate to do this.…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 05:06 PM
4

Some of us already do... I try to, but it's a minefield, clicking on those "below threshold" hidden replies. As I see it, the downvote is how we police our own. Use it when someone says or does something that: Isn't men's rights- maybe valid, but not appropriate to this sub (try to also direct them to the right place if possible) Fits the feminist/media stereotypes of MRA. Uses a logical fallacy (try to point this out as well) or makes a sweeping statement without evidence. Gets aggressive to th…
/r/MensRights20/07/15 04:38 PM
1

I'm sort of doing the grassroots angle, I guess... But I'm also largely specializing. Specifically, I've been building a support group for male victims of DV/IPV and sexual assault... I've been at it for about a year, and while I live in one of the largest cities in the country, I am (as far as I know) the only such source of support for these guys (there are no shelters or hotlines or anything). Grassroots pros/cons. Con: getting word out. Even after a year, I've pretty much only found a dozen …
/r/MensRights17/07/15 10:16 PM
1

I've seen a number of studies that men actually experience emotions more strongly than women- this based off hormonal checks (blood draw), fMRI scans of the appropriate regions and blood flow, and subjective tests (women going on testosterone). The trade off being that we don't change gears as easily, emotionally. My theory is that our coping mechanisms and much of gender theory follows from this directly... If men feel emotions more strongly, and steadily, control is simply more important. If w…
/r/MensRights17/07/15 07:14 AM
2

/s Derailing! maybe not all black women, but #yesallsomethingsomethingmumblemumbleshutup.
/r/MensRights15/07/15 12:49 AM
5

Well, now that the Cup is over... Convenient, eh?
/r/MensRights14/07/15 04:09 PM
3

There are also certain benefits to our underdog status, we're just not always able to play that card effectively. For example, despite it's name, by law VAWA can't discriminate on gender or anything else... So, if 95% of their funding goes to women's shelters, and we have to fight with the LGBT community for the table scraps... We can call them out on it, to our benefit. The catch is doing so in a way that doesn't backfire. We can't come across as entitled (we're not, but our audience is primed …
/r/MensRights14/07/15 03:58 PM
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It's definitely a "I need some support from other guys" issue... But if he lacks any such support network IRL, I can understand him wanting to come here where he knows he'll get at least a supportive "damn, that sucks." But yeah. The closest I can see it coming to one of our issues is the demonization-of-men (in this case as cheating, testosterone-slaves) issue... When, yet again it's not about men or women, just some people are assholes.
/r/MensRights13/07/15 05:36 AM
2

I love the other Whoopi videos, and generally dislike TYTs... But on this one... This is one we're better off not waving around banner-like. Because as much as I hate to say it, TYT make decent points on this one, especially re: statute of limitations. The statute of limitations exists for a reason, but not to prove or even assume innocence- merely to keep courts from getting too cluttered with cases that clearly didn't matter enough to pursue in a timely way... And also give some acknowledgemen…
/r/MensRights12/07/15 09:11 AM
1

Worked in the industry- they have an obligation to notify authorities if they've served someone and think they're going to drive drunk. If they didn't at least make a token attempt to stop them or contact authorities, they can be held civilly liable.... Not criminally.
/r/MensRights12/07/15 03:56 AM
2

The amount of gold in those comments... No, it'll dodge the delete button because it's making them more money than any other single thread this week.
/r/MensRights11/07/15 09:46 PM
2

It depends on the contract (if any). I've worked at places before that went out of their way to define the employment as "at will" and have me sign off on it- meaning that employment could be terminated by either party at any time for any (or no) reason. Hypothetically, this lets them dodge wrongful termination for anything... anything at all... But it's still ultimately up to a judge, because he can rule that the contract was invalid as written, since termination on certain grounds are constitu…
/r/MensRights10/07/15 11:59 PM
1

Was much lower at the time. Good.
/r/MensRights10/07/15 11:56 PM
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If he'd pressed charges, he'd have a decent case for wrongful termination, too.
/r/MensRights10/07/15 01:27 PM
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When you feel threatened- when someone has used violence- yes. There's always a weapon. Because you always assume the worst. Let's say you assume your attacker is capable of killing you, and you defend yourself in such a way as to make sure they can't (but without killing them)... You find out you were wrong, and someone has a bruise. Let's say you assume they're not a threat when they do have a weapon or the willingness to go lethal. You don't defend yourself and your family finds out you were …
/r/MensRights10/07/15 01:26 PM
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Didn't expect this: A video recording of a 1991 talk show, discussing a social issue... and it's still relevant. My research has found fewer than 6 shelters for battered men, if you're going to be honest. Most of the mythical 6 offer shelter for women- and referrals to homeless shelters for men. I only found 2 that would actually go the distance (one offered separate shelter services from the women, another said they lacked any men's shelters, but would find a way even if it meant paying for a h…
/r/MensRights09/07/15 10:57 PM
3

This needs to be higher up.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 03:08 AM
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Few things: first off, yeah- that's sexual assault. You may not have actively resisted, but this is the one area rape culture theory gets it exactly right- you've been trained out of effectively standing up for yourself against girls... And you did in fact stand a chance of getting in serious trouble had you resisted physically. You said no, made it clear at the very least it wasn't ok to do there... She kept going. I was also molested- age 8, by my 15f babysitter- repeatedly until her mother ca…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 04:42 PM
1

And for our next trick, this trained shark will now jump another shark!
/r/MensRights05/07/15 04:36 AM
1

Two points undermine that: 1- he felt like he couldn't leave... 2- he attempted to resist the girl and failed. At that point, it was going to happen with or without him... Any consent seems coerced to me. The rest is fluff. Drugs played a role, but secondary to those... So whether you're in the "altered mental state = rape" or "does not = rape" camp, it's beside the point.
/r/MensRights02/07/15 04:20 AM
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This is true. That said, I'd love to write the judge a letter asking if he was still convinced she was the better parent, or if he'd consider a retrial. Hindsight is 20/20, and maybe he made the best decision he could at the moment. But then again, maybe he was biased, and will only realize on self-reflection. Either way, it's a learning experience he needs to face. I only hope he does. Edit: lest anyone think I'm being too hard on the judge- days after he deemed her the more fit parent, she put…
/r/MensRights30/06/15 10:57 PM
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I was about to say: "someone got banned from r/feminism? It must be Tuesday." Or Thursday. Or Monday. Or...
/r/MensRights30/06/15 01:22 PM
10

...because of greedy doctors trying to make a quick buck It couldn't be because you're giving someone a painful (and therefore hard to clean) open wound in a sensitive area, in a country with limited sanitation much less health care? Even if you buy into the supposed health benefits (slight reduction in STD transmission during unprotected sex? Just get a fracking condom already)... There's a point where the immediate health risks outweigh them. Also, note: these camps get CDC funding (IIRC).... …
/r/MensRights30/06/15 01:18 PM
2

The market is there, it just doesn't appear to be there, because the feminist opposition is loud, and the male market silent out of fear and habit.
/r/MensRights23/06/15 03:42 PM
3

It doesn't, but after discussing the charge with him, they felt no reason to even arrest him. The order still had to be served though, because it had a judge's name on it.
/r/MensRights20/06/15 12:06 AM
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The law always always comes back to the reasonable man defense. If it's a mistake someone could reasonably make, it's a mistake. If the defense is one a reasonable person finds plausible, it's a good defense. And so on.
/r/MensRights19/06/15 12:31 AM
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Awful as the sex offender registry is, his sentence also includes 5 years probation... With accessing the Internet considered a probation violation. He's 19, going to college for CompSci. Now tell me- the degree is right out of course, but... What school can he even attend with that prohibition? Most decent jobs are probably off-limits, too. The judge even acknowledged that she lied about her age, that it was consensual, and acknowledged that neither she nor her family want charges pressed. All …
/r/MensRights18/06/15 04:40 AM
1

True, but it's the same % as the other unreliable number, which is hella funny.
/r/MensRights17/06/15 05:26 AM
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Most of those got deleted by the time I checked in... And the rest (save one) got downvoted into oblivion. I call this one a win.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 05:59 AM
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Flag on the play: this is a Trans issue. It only incidentally links to us, and in a largely neutral way- We could be pissed on the presumption that trans-women wouldn't get the same ACLU-endorsement and support, and get upset (possibly justifiably)... But be seen (justly or not) as trans-phobic. Or, we can recognize that a trans-man is, you know, worthy of ours given that he is claiming one of the few rights men are granted, making this a men's rights issue. I vote latter. Women have problems. M…
/r/MensRights12/06/15 04:16 PM
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Granted- knowing the total number of cases and total number of victims is important... If you want to know how popular a thing is, you need to know both the frequency per person, and final total. The crime statistics she's criticizing are failing on both counts. Her solution doesn't fix that though, or not totally. Both numbers need to be tracked and reported.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 01:23 PM
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Yeah, but those 277 were all because the man thought he owned the woman, right? If that were true, it would be a sign of sexism. Therefore, it must be true. Right?
/r/MensRights08/06/15 10:49 PM
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Isn't the majority of dating violence in that age group initiated by the female partner? This game is, what, supposed to teach boys how not to be abused? That I could get behind.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 08:14 AM
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Need to shoehorn an r in there... r/trial/?
/r/MensRights04/06/15 11:27 PM
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This was a claim by the state for back-support. She already got her handouts. Essentially, if the state can't find the father, they loan him the money (at a standard interest rate) without his consent to the loan, pay her, and then hold him responsible when/if they do find him.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 01:55 PM
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So silly. Oh wait, he did hang himself? Oh... well I guess the joke's on him. /s The choice of picture for the wife, which ends up being the link picture, given the content... Maybe not that great either.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 01:52 PM
1

In this community, for many, the comfort of anonymous strangers is the only comfort available, and the safest option. That said, I've healed as much as anyone ever does. I'm on to helping others heal. So right back at you, for that matter. :)
/r/MensRights03/06/15 08:02 PM
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You're in the (semi)unique position of having gotten to see both sides of sexism... If anything, that would be appreciated around here, because you're under no illusion that sexism only affects women. Anytime anyone's had the experiences you've had, I feel horror... No one here jokes about sexual assault. When/if we joke about trigger warnings, it's in regard to some pretty extreme and oddball... When an optional, voluntary attendance debate on the prevalence of sexual assault on campus, and our…
/r/MensRights03/06/15 02:32 PM
2

Wait... proof of institutional sexism against men? Whaaaaaaaat? You mean, we've been right all along? Shit. I... I don't know what to... How do we? I mean, even?
/r/MensRights01/06/15 07:43 AM
1

Then call it a step in the right direction. She comes as far as admitting that 38% of victims are male, are ignored, and are mostly raped by women. That's a huge step forward, even if she also says 30 seconds later that we represent 9% of rape victims (this presumably be the "leaving out made-to-penetrate" stat)... And even the 38% leaves out prison (though that got a separate mention)... You're right, I guess I'm just seeing the glass half full... On account of how it used to be empty.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 11:26 PM
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TL/DR for the article. Paragraphs 2/3 were my comments.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 10:56 PM
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A couple of the listed statistics were... Short of the mark, shall we say? It seems like she tried to put everything in, and didn't really quite know what she was looking at in context, so some of it got misrepresented, and some of it that was contradicted got in... But the message was good.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 10:05 AM
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If it was suicide, it's still worth remembering that he'd been a victim of sustained abuse by him for years. In a role reversal, would the police or news be reporting that he drove her to suicide? That maybe the victim new their abuser was getting out of jail, and took the only escape they thought they had left? Would they still hold him responsible? For that matter: I also wonder about her no-contact order. She gets out of jail on bail, and the first thing she does is go looking for him? With a…
/r/MensRights31/05/15 09:56 AM
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TL/DR: increasing social pressure, to conform or excel, has driven women from representing 18% of all suicides to a staggering nearly 20% of all suicides. This increase happened rapidly, over the course of several years, and clearly points to a world rapidly becoming more hostile to women, and we need to do something about it before any more women die. I like how they complain about how suicide is now ahead of maternal fatality as a cause of death for women worldwide. That's not because more wom…
/r/MensRights31/05/15 09:50 AM
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Fair- I wish I could've seen it live. My only concern is that as it stands, it looks like 3 or 4 assholes showed up... And 3 of them got shut down. If that's the metric for a movement gone bad, we have days like that too. In fact, it's a point of pride around here that we police ourselves better than most: allowing the radical elements to speak, but reliably down-voting them so it's completely clear that they don't speak for anyone but themselves. Accurate or not, this archive looks like just th…
/r/MensRights29/05/15 03:40 PM
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Not sure this is the greatest example... Up until Personage1 at the end, anyway. Every other comment in the entire thread denying that this was rape, or calling her a victim, were the same 2-3 posters, and were consistently downvoted... Meanwhile, every upvoted comment (except P1 at the end) shown was egalitarian. Was this the whole thread, or just the dregs? Edit: sentence order change for clarity
/r/MensRights29/05/15 01:56 PM
4

This. Because, of course, he'll still be held responsible for back support once he does, somehow, find out.
/r/MensRights27/05/15 11:56 PM
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There's a name for it because it's useful to be able to discuss this particular quirk of statistics as opposed to any other. For example, if a study provides surprising results, the statistician can say: "geez. What happened? We already checked for selection bias... Sample size is good... What's up? Oh- Simpson's!" As opposed to: "geez. What happened? Oh well, I guess statistics is complicated." Being familiar with the various kinds of statistical error or bias can be immensely helpful in... You…
/r/MensRights27/05/15 01:36 PM
5

Thanks for that. Wish it could've read it on the Tribune... Authors like these deserve the clicks.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 01:12 PM
3

Sit in? You mean group harassment! /s
/r/MensRights24/05/15 08:05 AM
2

Eh... I'd say it's closer to seduction than rape, yes... But when said seduction involved groping and kissing him after he'd said no... "You wanna?" "No." "You sure?" "I'm sure." "How about now?" (Gropes him) "Still sure. Stop." "How about now?" (Doesn't stop) "I said stop." "Don't worry, lighten up, it'll be our secret, please, say yes." "Alright, fine. Yes." Is that consent to sex? Yes. But before that consent occurred, it was also very very clearly sexual assault of some sort... Even if he go…
/r/MensRights23/05/15 08:04 AM
3

Only 33% of the student body are male... But then, how many are white male? At a liberal arts school... 16-18%? 20% at most? Of those, how many are CIS-Het? 12-15%? For comparison's sake... I'd fully expect B/E/Minority women to outnumber Cis-het white men at that point. At what point do they qualify as the minority?
/r/MensRights22/05/15 11:40 PM
3

You're right- you don't have the right to make that decision. But- neither does he. The only person who should have the right to make that decision is your hypothetical son. Sure, parents make medical decisions on behalf of their children all the time... But this isn't medical, it isn't emergency, it can wait. We're talking about something with permanent consequences- if there's no rush... Why take that decision away from someone else? If he wants a circumcision when he's 13... Discuss it. No ea…
/r/MensRights22/05/15 08:37 PM
11

I wonder if we can arrange a fan-film gender-swap... Same lines, same everything. Soccer mom, clearly attractive but a bit unshevelled... 2 very very attractive but twisted guys... First time, no force- just "I can't do this, I'm married- happily." "Yes you can. Just relax, enjoy it. It'll be our little secret." Then, of course, the awful stuff. The question of course being not if it's rape... But when they think it becomes rape. Cause me- I heard a clear and decisive no in that first encounter.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 06:43 PM
3

Because the video looks like he (may have been) defending himself... At the very least, she struck him, he retreated, then she lunged at him, he hit her. In an enclosed space, with no room to retreat any further... That's self defense. But because he's a big strong male, the media would have us believe he's responsible for taking every blow without so much as a hint of self-preservation- and definitely never ever hurting her even to protect himself. They would also have us believe that her not c…
/r/MensRights22/05/15 05:49 AM
3

Rape and then sexual mutilation. And then probably more off-screen rape. I mean, torturers aren't known for passing up such an obvious way of dehumanizing their subjects. Sure, Theon was an asshole. Sure, Samsa's like-able. But seriously. If you didn't check out of GoT a year (or 2 or 3) ago, you have no business complaining about "gratuitous" "rape culture" "etc, etc..." now.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 05:40 AM
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I don't know why... But it struck me of the sudden that in many (maybe even most) of the pictures I've seen of her... She isn't "carrying that weight" alone. Telling, isn't it. So much for rape culture.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 12:50 PM
4

This kind of irony is common, but rarely so... Blatant.
/r/MensRights20/05/15 04:48 PM
3

Specifically, there are plenty that stream upload.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 04:24 AM
1

I'm in.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 03:05 AM
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Yeah, I saw someone say something like: men are more likely to strangle or slam, women to hit with objects or throw things, so that's inherently less dangerous. My immediate thought was: Women are more likely to use a weapon, you mean? The military calls those force equalizers for a reason.
/r/MensRights18/05/15 12:50 PM
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Criminal is black, has long criminal history with multiple convictions, including several for violent offenses, pleads guilty to trespassing, assault and rape. Oh, it's a woman? Not only do they give her a pass with a 9-month sentence... Did anyone notice the bit about the kids? She was pregnant with her 3rd child when she committed the crime and was arrested. She's since had 2 more. That's 3 total, full pregnancies before they resolved her case. 2 years minimum. Out in the world, on bail for a …
/r/MensRights18/05/15 02:20 AM
3

You're right. That said, it's a good rhetorical method to pull the "but if we do it your way, what happens?" game. "Dishonesty during foreplay makes sex rape." "I disagree, but- let's assume that's true... What about when you told me we were exclusive, or the time you told me you were on the pill? If you're right... You're a rapist. Would you like to rethink your stance, now that you see it's consequences in a way that matters to you?"
/r/MensRights16/05/15 11:40 PM
3

Agreed. But pointing out hypocrisy isn't by default the same as "no true Scotsman." Because that's what she seems to be doing. She doesn't say they aren't feminists- she may have a cutesy/insulting name for their particular breed of feminism, but still calls them feminists. She doesn't deny their association with the movement- she in fact says that their association is a problem- ugly and destructive because it betrays what those same women claim feminism is. That's not no true Scotsman. That's …
/r/MensRights15/05/15 01:16 PM
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And if the pope were to excommunicate someone, would that also qualify as "no true Scotsman" fallacy? Feminism isn't likely going anywhere. It's just as valuable to us to have them right the ship as abandon it... To go back to dealing with whatever real issues affect women for the worse, without causing problems for men. Maybe more valuable, if we can get them to go a step further and acknowledge our movement as the other side of the gender-egalitarian coin (even if they don't directly support u…
/r/MensRights14/05/15 07:33 PM
2

/shrug I somehow managed to glaze over you mentioning it in your first post. I was more apologizing if it caused offense than anything else... As far as I'm concerned, on the Internet, everyone is gender-less. (At least, until they make it important... And even then, it's not always actually important.) You still rock though.
/r/MensRights13/05/15 02:07 PM
3

It only happens occasionally often all the time. No, seriously. Extremists hijacking movements is old as dirt. For a recent example, your best bet is american politics, specifically republican > tea party. Once upon a time, and we're talking decades ago, conservative meant someone who favored economic freedom and low government oversight- conservative in the sense of cautious. Liberal meanwhile nearly meant socialist... Though none would admit it at the time, given it was a dirty word: pro-gover…
/r/MensRights13/05/15 01:48 PM
3

Oops- apologies.
/r/MensRights13/05/15 01:29 PM
4

What he said. Also, you rock.
/r/MensRights13/05/15 01:21 PM
3

So... You're saying that people can be flawed or exhibit bad behavior even when it doesn't directly benefit them?!? I'm shocked. Shocked, I say.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 10:50 PM
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It's possible that their numbers are military, not genpop... Namely, with a largely male population on a military base, and women taken less seriously as a threat... The skewed numbers may be genuine- for that population.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 01:35 PM
2

Of course, any male civilians killed get reclassified anyway.
/r/MensRights08/05/15 01:23 AM
11

Because phimosis is incredibly rare and easily diagnosed. Circumcision is rarely medically necessary... And right when and only when medically necessary. For comparison, think about how many women get breast cancer. Way WAY more wen get breast cancer than men get phimosis or penis cancer. Do you advocate cutting out every woman's breast tissue? How about cavities that lead to infections? We don't need teeth... Let's just pull them all out. Best to do it as soon as possible, too, so no one minds.…
/r/MensRights07/05/15 01:26 PM
26

Be sure to pull a photo from a sexual harassment website, not porn though. Completely different vibe.
/r/MensRights07/05/15 04:41 AM
0

Granted- getting the job done is important, especially when that job is saving the day. But being forced to do anything against your will isn't just getting your feelings (fee-fees? Really?) hurt... It's slavery, assault, a violation of self. My point: If anyone out in the wide, wide world finds it upsetting that BW had her control/agency taken away by getting captured... They need to watch the movies again. Way worse than that happened to Hawkeye in Avengers... And she did worse to Banner in Ul…
/r/MensRights06/05/15 12:33 PM
3

It's semi-mythical, but yeah. Prima nocta means first night... Supposedly the idea that a king could call first crack at any newly married woman... Because he could, because no one could oppose him. But while I'm sure some kings were asshole enough to think like that, it would've been pre-Magna Carta, difficult to defend in any divine-right monarchy, would invite rebellion or assassination, and... Well. There's no evidence it ever happened, just conjecture. It's also entirely obscure and within …
/r/MensRights06/05/15 12:25 PM
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There are two kinds of equality: net-positive and net-negative. Net positive tries to raise the bar for everybody, improve everyone's status quo to an equal and generally good level. This is good egalitarianism. Net negative tries to target whoever is reasonably well off, and punish them- drag them down to an equality that harms everyone equally. This is usually vindictive in nature- or the result of "me first" faux-positive equality. On the rare occasion that mainstream feminism actually wants …
/r/MensRights06/05/15 05:07 AM
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There comes a point in every girl’s life when she realizes her breasts – her nipples in particular – are not her own. It’s at that moment that we know anything from a change in the temperature to the “wrong” kind of bra can bring all sorts of unwanted and crass attention from impolite men in our general vicinity. Sounds familiar. You think she'd have more sympathy for guys and our lack of bodily function control, re:orgasms and involuntary arousal... But I know from other material she's written …
/r/MensRights04/05/15 01:07 PM
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Granted, but we're in muddy waters here. Legally, many states don't differentiate- only psychologists really do. Morally, many people don't differentiate either between 12 (pre-pubescent) and 13 (mid-pubescent) as you do- again, only the psychologists really do. The distinction may be important... And clearly is important to you... But is little more than semantics to most. All in all, this is a minor complaint, I think. A valid one, but a minor one. But then, I'm glass-half-full guy, and just h…
/r/MensRights28/04/15 02:22 PM
2

Fair- but what qualifies? Are you saying they needed to actively access and show the pictures to others, then send them, all while on school property? Or is it enough that they brought the pics on property (on their phones), thus having something prohibited in school? I suspect the school would be able to argue the point that they were within their rights to punish the students. Even if it would be a bit of a stretch, thinner connections have made it through real courts. For me, the question is …
/r/MensRights28/04/15 02:17 PM
2

Don't go away. Even if you are a troll (and I have no reason to think so)... Stick around. Lurk even, like others have said... Ask questions as they come up... Form your own opinions about us. Some of us have gotten rather jaded... With reason, but that's still no excuse. You'll note that out of dozens of replies... The only one to respond dismissively to you... Is also the only one to get downvoted into the red. Which kinda means he isn't the guy you should be paying attention to, as a represen…
/r/MensRights26/04/15 07:14 PM
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If the suspensions were because the boys uploaded the private pics to the net, then I can understand... That could be harassment, which is worthy of a suspension, regardless of the nature of the harassment. But as we've seen before, even when the pics are kept private, the guy gets in trouble because... Um, reasons?
/r/MensRights26/04/15 07:03 PM
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Plenty of sources on domestic violence being 50/50. Also, I might recommend renaming "rape" to "sexual assault"- given some legal definitions of rape exclude men, or exclude female attackers... you might be better off. (Also, counting the above... It's closer to 60/40. Add in prison rape, and it shifts even further... But admittedly, consensus on this is hard to find because no one bothered asking, much less researching and reporting until recently.)
/r/MensRights22/04/15 07:44 AM
3

Corollary: when you think you're a nail, every problem looks like a hammer.
/r/MensRights19/04/15 10:31 PM
2

I'll have to post the actual link from my computer later... But I recently found a comprehensive list of alternative DV shelters in the US (shelters that cater to underserved ethnic groups, LGBT, and even men). It was well maintained and constantly updated... But... Well, not great news. Out of the 60 or so listings: The majority were on the list for LGBT (inclusive or centric). A couple were focused on a specific ethnic group. About half of them (28) either claimed to serve everyone (usually wi…
/r/MensRights15/04/15 01:08 PM
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There should be exceptions, or at least an allowance to cut the tie altogether. I agree with the binding together of rights and responsibilities... But this kid had both forced on him. As if that's not bad enough, I doubt he got the full use of his paternal rights that he was forced to pay for- between her controlling interest, the state's involvement, and his extreme youth, I'd be shocked. Similarly, cases of "back child support" ruled against a father who knows nothing of the child shouldn't a…
/r/MensRights04/04/15 06:36 PM
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I see nothing wrong with leaving it blank- that's her choice. But Kansas (and many other states) require the mother to identify a father before they'll release any child support... Which puts this (at least mostly) back on the state, IMO.
/r/MensRights04/04/15 06:31 PM
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This. I work for a large company, on a property worth $400M by itself... And they can't afford a $20 spare part until the main breaks and costs them thousands in lost revenue while we wait for an emergency replacement to get overnighted to us at premium shipping... For all their talk, proactive isn't in their vocabulary. Unless you make a big bloody mess of things, they can't be bothered to even think about your problem, much less actually address it.
/r/MensRights04/04/15 04:33 AM
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We don't negotiate with terrorists. We give them exactly what they want.
/r/MensRights04/04/15 04:21 AM
1

You know what's stable? Jail.
/r/MensRights02/04/15 11:48 PM
4

What. The. Actual. Fuck? 1- guy doesn't want to get married 2- woman does, so threatens his life 3- instead of punishing her, judge recommends he give her what she wants I guess we do negotiate with terrorists.
/r/MensRights02/04/15 11:46 PM
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As several others have said- don't forget the simultaneous movement to normalize abusive behaviors by women against men... Either as justifiable, or even as out and out normal ("everybody snoops," etc). In this specific instance... What I'm seeing is a normal grief response turned dark. How many people have broken up with someone they truly loved and thought the world of... And at some point during the healing process thought they were a jerk/bitch/asshole. It eventually (usually) settles down t…
/r/MensRights02/04/15 03:23 AM
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Absolutely a grey area... But how coerced he is, is hard to tell by this one meager post, from her perspective. Could be he fears losing his kids and income to a messy divorce. Coercion requires threats (active or passive, but real threats)... Those threats need not be physical. They can be legal, social, or psychological.
/r/MensRights01/04/15 05:37 AM
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It does seem absurd, but the study is linked... And seems valid on first blush. Sure, it could be an outlier statistic, a fluke... And those happen all the time in studies of this nature. The only way to be sure is to run more studies with bigger samples, and see if the number repeats itself. Also- worth noting... This could also be a case of nested statistics. Roughly 10% of boys (in the study) reported having committed sexual violence... Of those, 1-in-39 reported participating in a gang-rape …
/r/MensRights01/04/15 04:23 AM
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True, but I figure it won't be JUST viagra. Add some physical stimulation, and who knows. Still- even if it doesn't work... That just makes it attempted rape. She thought it would work... And intended to rape him, even if she didn't think of it as rape.
/r/MensRights01/04/15 04:03 AM
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She has accurately described putting him on a date rape drug. Don't want to have sex? I don't care. Take this, so we can have sex anyway.
/r/MensRights31/03/15 11:10 PM
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No, no- I take that into account with the other studies as well... Each had a small sample, but I'd seen several... In aggregate, enough to tentatively accept the theory pending conflicting info. Which you've now provided. Your info is of only 2 studies (unless you have more), which makes their small sample size more critical than in the dozen or so I've seen... Enough to make me question the validity of all of them, but not enough to make me turn the boat completely around by far. (And no, I do…
/r/MensRights29/03/15 09:45 PM
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Links appreciated, condescension not so much. Those are interesting, but limited studies. I kind of laughed when the one article read "proven the opposite once and for all." Oh, science journalism, how little you know about science. A study of 200 people in only 2 areas, on a subjective field of study doesn't prove anything once and for all. The other studies I've seen aren't much better, mind... These studies don't prove that men have higher thresholds than men- they prove that, well, we don't …
/r/MensRights27/03/15 09:12 PM
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Every study I've ever seen has said otherwise- again, on average.
/r/MensRights27/03/15 05:02 PM
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"Difference in strength"... Ok, so, on average, women have higher pain tolerances, so hitting them hurts less. Does that make it ok again? "Victim blaming"... wtf?
/r/MensRights27/03/15 10:20 AM
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I just had a truly awful thought / possible response to the "on average men are stronger" argument: On average, women have higher pain tolerances... So even if I hit her back harder than she hit me, it doesn't hurt as much, which... What, makes it ok? Edit: for the record, I'm not saying it is ok. But if the gender difference argument is supposed to hold water, it's also going to backfire on those who use it, from time to time. Personally, I think it's BS... But a "by that logic, ..." Argument i…
/r/MensRights27/03/15 10:12 AM
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Victim-blaming is bad, but bystander-blaming is acceptable. She didn't take precautions, but that's her right (and somehow empowering)... and suggesting that she should- or even could- learn to defend herself is wrong. So, meanwhile, we'll train (indoctrinate) boys to put their lives at risk to defend her instead... And shame them if they don't do so. She has no responsibility to protect herself, it's on everyone else.
/r/MensRights26/03/15 09:16 AM
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As it more often as women are reduced to sexual objects, men are reduced to sexual animals. You'll note that many women stand to gain a lot from the former, or we'd have no strippers (to say nothing of reports that the ad industry is female dominated). I've yet to see any man benefit from the latter. Shall we waste time debating which is worse, or admit both are bad?
/r/MensRights25/03/15 11:17 PM
4

"No shit, Sherlock." "Well then, keep digging Watson."
/r/MensRights25/03/15 08:37 AM
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If be kinda curious to see... Best case scenario: If you call the women's helpline, and as a man, they refer you to the men's line... Then you call the men's line, and as a victim they refer you to the women's line... And back and forth... I wonder how many times you could get ping-pinged before they even noticed.
/r/MensRights25/03/15 08:33 AM
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Oops. 36 years.
/r/MensRights24/03/15 09:11 PM
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The safe space was necessary, guys, cause women were being forced to hear all about... Oh, attending the debate wasn't mandatory? Well then.
/r/MensRights23/03/15 08:24 AM
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The strength advantage really only matters in a fair fight. Given a fist-fight between a 180lb muscled bro and a 140lb nerd, I know who I'd bet on... But if the nerd pulls a knife or a gun, I'd strongly reconsider. If the nerd gets the first shot, while the jock isn't looking, I'd strongly reconsider. If the jock can't fight back (restrained physically or socially, drugged or disabled), I'd strongly reconsider. Abuse is never fair. So why do people keep reminding us that men are (on average) str…
/r/MensRights23/03/15 01:49 AM
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Do you know why? When women in Africa go out to get water, they risk being raped. When men in Africa go out to get water, they risk being raped and killed. Sounds like the best response to an absolutely shit situation to me.
/r/MensRights21/03/15 05:05 AM
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I might say absence or mutation of them... But sure, I'll bite.
/r/MensRights20/03/15 04:07 AM
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He was pointing out just how clouded the issue could be, by pointing out something seemingly absurd that's been proven, and could be part of the issue. If we can't suss out how much of the 'gap' is the result of height, how the hell are we to suss out how much, if any, is the result of genitals.
/r/MensRights20/03/15 04:06 AM
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He didn't directly mention it, but it was covered several times over in the links at the bottom, and he acknowledges anti-male bias as a real thing... Just a real thing he never noticed, and still doesn't really bother him enough to fight over, in the "if you choose to embrace a certain treatment, you can hardly complain about others expecting it from you" camp. I can respect that.
/r/MensRights20/03/15 04:05 AM
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Link aside, look at all the female protagonists in that series. Geez.
/r/MensRights20/03/15 03:45 AM
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Note: the guy involved who got a year in jail... Didn't even participate in the torture. He was asleep in the next room, until they woke him up, at which point, he unties the guy, and went back to bed. Still pretty fucked up, but somehow, I think, not worth jail time when the people actually mutilating and torturing someone for lols get community service.
/r/MensRights20/03/15 03:43 AM
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UK actually- this is just the Aussie article on it.
/r/MensRights20/03/15 03:41 AM
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Also notable- according to other articles I've seen, the 3 women instigated, tying him up and torturing him for a while before the man showed up and joined in. All of them also admitted to it. Girls get leniency, guy who wasn't even there for the whole thing gets hung out to dry.
/r/MensRights19/03/15 06:39 AM
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Her PhD thesis was on what now? I think the Internet just hit it's quota for irony for the week.
/r/MensRights19/03/15 12:01 AM
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Also worth noting- any studio that offers this piercing is now breaking the law.
/r/MensRights18/03/15 12:32 AM
1

So... Any idea how many men's DV shelters there are in NY? Google searches keep directing me to homeless shelters. Dropping men's and just looking for DV shelters finds me plenty exclusively for women, and quite a few websites that read gender-neutral (which may or may not mean anything), none male-exclusive. I'm curious, because it seems they've got money to just throw away on small stuff.
/r/MensRights17/03/15 02:04 AM
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"Never generalize until you get tired of taking the time to not generalize."
/r/MensRights15/03/15 01:57 PM
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Now that they're dead, he might finally be able to win custody. Yes, I know how awful a thing to say that is. It's also kinda true.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 03:39 AM
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I may be oversimplifying, and it is a paraphrase, but Justice White did call it part of the burden of citizenship, and reciprocal duty (thus payment in return for) of citizenship. I swear I recall seeing a separate quote of him more directly linking conscription to the vote specifically... But I can't find it.
/r/MensRights13/03/15 02:25 AM
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Ok- so each appeal and SCOTUS case has pages and pages of legalese- followed by a chance for each judge/Justice to write a legal opinion explaining their vote's legal grounds (supporting or dissenting, either). There are several relevant SCOTUS cases, each referring to several (as many as 20) legal documents as the basis for the decision and upholding those cases as constitutional law. It's a lot of research. I recall the relevant quote being in the 1918 case, probably in one of those legal opin…
/r/MensRights12/03/15 11:45 PM
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SCOTUS also ruled the draft/selective service legal in the first place (despite the prohibition against slavery and indentured servitude, which it is) because it was "payment for the right to vote." Which women also have. And don't have to "pay" for.
/r/MensRights12/03/15 07:56 PM
1

Yep. It's little more than a growth on/around the campus... But yeah.
/r/MensRights12/03/15 07:50 PM
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Yeah. 10 years down the line, I'm alright. Using it as fuel to build a support network for others.
/r/MensRights12/03/15 07:49 PM
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I went to that school. Some background: It was an all-girl school until the early 90's. The student body was still 70% female when I attended. The faculty 60% female, and the administration and support (counseling, etc) 80% female. Primarily known as a teaching school. SJW-friendly even in the 90's and early 00's when I was there. Feminist ruled, for that matter. It periodically catches fire (within a month of changing names, every time they've changed name, they've lost several buildings). Unre…
/r/MensRights12/03/15 05:55 PM
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You forgot- said alleged rapist who was killed? Cleared by forensic evidence 2 days after his death.
/r/MensRights10/03/15 05:26 PM
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That was not an apology. "I'm sorry for any misunderstanding, my words were taken out of context." No, we got to read the entire email chain, which was validated, and which you admitted was authentic. There's nothing "out of context" about "I can't accept any Indian men because they're all rapey. Well, not all of course, but I have to think they all are a little bit since they have to have been raised like that for there to be such a big rape problem."
/r/MensRights10/03/15 09:02 AM
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If this is her movement's and website's idea of empathy... I don't want it. Tastes too much like mockery and "I know you hurt, but you're stupid for hurting." Twist the knife a bit, why dontcha?
/r/MensRights10/03/15 01:48 AM
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Overall, I'd say they held up CAFE's claims. "50/50? Not quite! It's actually 6/6.4!... Or, um, 49/51!" "No shelters! Not quite! There used to be one, several hours drive away, but it closed down due to lack of funding!" "4x higher suicide rate? Not quite! It's only 3.3x or so, and remember, women attempt suicide more, but survive and get help!" "77% of child-custody orders favor women? Not quite! That's based on old data: It's actually worse, closer to 80%+, but might be getting better!"
/r/MensRights09/03/15 08:44 PM
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If this is true, it translates roughly to "because women's fears are irrational and overblown." Rape, especially just walking down the street, is excessively rare. Prison rape, common- so much so as to be more common than every other kind of rape. At least their fears are acknowledged, and support is available.
/r/MensRights09/03/15 08:17 PM
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Generally, agreed. Like I said, college is overrated... He has far better options as that goes... And a GED is nothing to be ashamed of. It's stacked against him as far as education goes. The school has no incentive whatsoever to even listen to his side of the story, and a world of hurt if they treat him seriously. Most of the comments are telling him how illegal it is, and how he can/should fight to get back into his school and scholarships. That's where the deck is stacked against him.
/r/MensRights09/03/15 08:09 PM
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It's surprising how many commenters are shocked, surprised, and all "that's not legal!" In today's atmosphere, kid is screwed. It isn't the end of the world... College is overrated anyway. Losing all that hard work would be crushing, but frankly, something plenty of people are put through at some point in their life (layoffs, etc). And of course, if he's set on college... It's still attainable, albeit not easily. But no one in there seems to realize how stacked the deck is against him. That's wh…
/r/MensRights09/03/15 01:54 AM
2

I assume someone has tweeted to let her know we already have that here, and pretty much everywhere?
/r/MensRights07/03/15 11:12 PM
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Was the question submitted by a Berkley Rep, or a user/student/whatever? Cause if some random WBC or KKK asshole got on Harvard's website and posted that... And the response were as you describe... So what?
/r/MensRights07/03/15 11:42 AM
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If low conviction = low crime occurrence, how come the low number of convicted rapists is a problem?
/r/MensRights06/03/15 10:47 PM
3

Blanket statement, no link, explanation, or backup for it? What's up?
/r/MensRights06/03/15 10:41 PM
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"We have no proof you committed the crime, but that just proves you did an excellent job covering it up!"
/r/MensRights05/03/15 07:13 PM
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This. Page views aren't generic... They'll see what kind of content gathers the most views, and hopefully shift gears. Shorting one good author because of who publishes him hurts the author and our cause more than it hurts the publisher.
/r/MensRights05/03/15 12:57 PM
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Most of the replies seem reasonable to me... People defending men, but without getting aggressive. Sure, there was that one "phobic" woman.... But out if a dozen replies that mostly said "Nothing to fear here unless he does something shady..." and "if you trust him with your son, why not your daughter?"... I think this one is a win.
/r/MensRights05/03/15 12:49 PM
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Given the OP article has a time stamp but no date, it could be old... Or just uninformed.
/r/MensRights05/03/15 11:49 AM
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It says the rapists also got convicted and sentenced doubled... What sentence? Do we know? If both victims (male and female) got 6mo and 200 lashes for "public indecency"... I would expect they got far worse. The fact that it's not stated feels like something getting swept under the rug.
/r/MensRights04/03/15 05:28 PM
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Why don't you do it? So he did. And thus was born the MHRM. I mean, seriously. "Feminism is for men too." "So where's our support?" "Why don't you do it?" "Ok, I'll get right on that." "Why do you hate us?!?" Tells you everything you need to know right there.
/r/MensRights03/03/15 04:54 AM
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Actually... I dunno. It made our frontpage. The highest upvotes comments (except for one) are all really positive. Many may focus on "what to do now" rather than simple "I know you you feel"... But they're still supportive and empathetic, and we tend to be much more action oriented here, so that's par for the course. If he didn't feel supported... He cut the account too soon, or was looking at all the wrong (downvoted asshole) replies.
/r/MensRights28/02/15 11:37 PM
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Oops. Lawyer is ill informed then. There's been plenty of case law that applies to this situation, and the charge definitely applies. Manslaughter no, murder no... Involuntary manslaughter yeah.
/r/MensRights28/02/15 11:29 PM
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They're trying to charge me with manslaughter, when they freely admit he killed himself. You can't have it both ways. Look up Involuntary Manslaughter. This is the exact right charge for what you did. You participated actively but indirectly in ending his life. At least Dr Kevorkian had his patients' consent, and both he and they believed it was helping. This was malicious and indefensible.
/r/MensRights28/02/15 05:20 PM
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Then, sir- we're on EXACTLY the same page. The boy who gets a wedgie SHOULD be able to punch his bully (male or female). But, based on my own personal experience... He would get expelled for defending himself. That's a problem. But it's a problem no one cared about until it affected a girl. Not once, not anywhere did I say anything that could be misogynistic. I'm glad the girl defended herself. I'm glad the mother stood up for her. I'm glad the school backed down. I wish they'd never threatened …
/r/MensRights28/02/15 05:08 PM
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Did you bother to read my post above? I said that IF this happened, she absolutely WAS in the right and defending herself. BUT that the school's reaction to her had nothing to do with sexism or any such bullshit- as they've consistently treated boys like that. Imagine, for example, someone gives a 14yo boy a wedgie- just like the girl, grabbing and pulling their underwear with the express purpose of causing embarrassment/discomfort/pain... And that boy responds by punching the bully. Would you b…
/r/MensRights26/02/15 10:11 AM
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Granted- I think the mother's response was exactly appropriate... but... If the boy's behavior and school's attempt to punish her for defending herself is so awful... why do we find it acceptable when the victim is a young boy? Think about wedgies, and give me even one good reason why those are any more acceptable, any less humiliating, painful, dehumanizing, or sexually exposing/harmful than a bra-snapping. Think about any kid who's ever defended himself from a bully and gotten in trouble becau…
/r/MensRights26/02/15 06:25 AM
2

That's men get baseline 100%, women get 60% of what men do? Personally, what I see most often in crimes committed by couples is that they get equal time, but the female has it suspended, so she never serves a day unless she re-commits... Would that count as 0%, or 100%, or somewhere in between? Also- is that sentencing once convicted, or does it factor in conviction rates as well? I have questions... Many many questions.
/r/MensRights25/02/15 04:28 AM
2

Except the sentencing gap would put us back... What? Several years?
/r/MensRights25/02/15 04:17 AM
2

Title says it's news. It's really not.
/r/MensRights24/02/15 04:14 PM
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US is about the same. There are more women's shelters in my city than men's shelters in the nation.
/r/MensRights24/02/15 04:13 PM
1

Given that most MRA concerns qualify as basic human rights, and that was #2 on their list (w/ equal rights for women being much lower), there is a silver lining here.
/r/MensRights21/02/15 03:25 AM
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Or wanted it because he had an erection. Or wanted it because of what she was wearing. Or wanted it because. Seriously, when I read that line, I literally choked a little.
/r/MensRights21/02/15 03:21 AM
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Fuck that. Rape doesn't feminize you- it dehumanizes you. That's where the shame comes from.
/r/MensRights20/02/15 07:06 PM
1

But then you'd think the police report would read "scratches" not "cuts".
/r/MensRights20/02/15 10:51 AM
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This story makes a good counter for all the times we see feminist claim reverse-misogyny- usually to the tune of "when men are treated badly it's because they being feminized and everyone hates women." In this case, every single point at which she was treated poorly, it was due to being masculinized. Dat Matriarchy tho.
/r/MensRights20/02/15 03:39 AM
2

Good takedown. Cannot Upvote enough.
/r/MensRights20/02/15 01:42 AM
2

Scratches imply nails. Cuts imply... More.
/r/MensRights20/02/15 01:06 AM
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Also worth noting- he suffered cuts to his ear and neck. I can see a punch splitting his ear, like a split lip... But cuts to the neck says weapon.
/r/MensRights19/02/15 11:06 PM
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Did anyone else notice... she hit him And he suffered cuts to his ear and neck Ok, so a punch to the ear can split it, maybe, like a split lip, which is sort of a cut... But... She didn't just punch him if he had cuts to his neck.
/r/MensRights19/02/15 11:04 PM
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Look, the reason vigilantism is bad isn't because you might get the wrong guy. The reason we can't tolerate this kind of thing is that vigilante justice tends towards the excessive. I'd say it's both. Any system of justice must be impartial and unemotional. Anything else is a lynch mob. Agreed. And your points are valid. Stories like this are, however, still valuable. For example, when someone tells us how men hold all the institutional power, a story like this displays that, while they may not …
/r/MensRights19/02/15 11:03 AM
2

And they say we objectify them.
/r/MensRights19/02/15 05:11 AM
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If lying to get someone into bed is supposed to be rape... Lying to get someone beaten to a pulp is attempted murder.
/r/MensRights18/02/15 06:38 PM
7

Textbook domestic violence. He cancelled the ambulance for fear of leaving the children with his abuser. At first he claimed it was an accident "I slipped and fell on a knife that was somehow standing point up on the ground." "Sure, right..." Yet, because the victim is male, no shits are given for real justice.
/r/MensRights18/02/15 01:51 AM
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Divorce doesn't seem like enough. Child endangerment, drunk driving, threats of violence, followed by property damage... Someone needs jail, or a padded room.
/r/MensRights16/02/15 04:06 PM
2

Specifically, I'd say this is best in response to the "woah, it's not serious/just a joke/see how it feels" defenses. "Congratulations, your 'joke' may have made someone who was feeling suicidal fall deeper in that hole."
/r/MensRights16/02/15 04:04 PM
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And people say we don't care about Trans issues. This seems like one to me- at least, one that crosses over our sphere quite neatly.
/r/MensRights15/02/15 02:28 PM
1

Yeah, sort of. Our insanity spread quite nicely to bunches of African nation's though, where women now gather in mobs with kitchen knives to circumcise adult men against their will in the streets and gutters: and it always comes back to 2 excuses: they say it makes sex more pleasurable for the woman they point to various american doctors and such who've told them it reduces the risk of HIV Not just "Only in America" anymore.
/r/MensRights14/02/15 05:02 PM
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Admittedly, I missed the cis in cis-sexual up there, but my point was, essentially, that it's bad to assume that any group's privilege is universal, or disadvantage universal. If group A has privileges over group B... It is still possible for group B to have privileges over A or C, D, etc... Or any of them to have privileges over A at the same time. And even if group G has no privileges, addressing their problems doesn't force us to ignore every group but them.
/r/MensRights14/02/15 03:32 AM
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No- it doesn't deter anything, because the schools are getting legislated into a corner. Schools have lawsuits from women using Title IX to say they were discriminated against when the school didn't reach a finding of guilty... Lawsuits from men using Title IX to say they were discriminated against when the school reached a finding of guilty. They have men suing them for violating civil liberties, and legislation from the state's forcing them to violate civil liberties of they want to keep their…
/r/MensRights13/02/15 01:09 AM
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I'll give you the rich. But the gender sentencing gap between men and women is twice the racial sentencing gap between white/black Americans. CDC says men are sexually assaulted slightly more often than women, and usually by women... Same goes for domestic violence (studies with sample sizes in the 371,000+ range). Yet there are fewer men's shelters in the nation than there are women's shelters in my city. why? Because no one has any sympathy for men. Just a couple examples among dozens. We aren…
/r/MensRights11/02/15 09:58 PM
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We're not criticizing you for being a feminist as an engineer- we're criticizing you for piss poor logic and reasoning skills as an engineer.
/r/MensRights11/02/15 09:51 PM
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I could contribute... But I don't think I have the time or skill set to run it. Whoever takes over, feel free to ping me.
/r/MensRights11/02/15 09:47 PM
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True, but this is still a step in the right direction for several reasons: Often enough, women don't see jail at all, getting suspended jail time, time served, or probation. She has to register (permanently) as a sex offender on release. The article headline called it rape. Glass may not be full, but it's not half empty either... Looks to me to be at least 75%
/r/MensRights11/02/15 09:12 PM
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List is longer than I expected, still pretty short since most of them are only hotlines, or "provide support, but cannot shelter men."
/r/MensRights10/02/15 10:01 PM
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Wonder why men are vanishing? Maybe you told us you didn't need or want us... ...and we believed you.
/r/MensRights10/02/15 01:01 AM
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How often does a woman do something that's expected of a man, and get extra praise just because she's a woman? Oh, that's right. Every goddamn fucking day, by SJWs.
/r/MensRights08/02/15 10:42 AM
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Just so you don't miss it- the study that TIL was about is worth keeping bookmarked... And be sure to check out the section about the men who called the cops. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3175099/
/r/MensRights08/02/15 10:34 AM
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When male victims of domestic violence report it to the cops: The male(victim) is arrested 33.3% of the time placed in jail 29.5% of the time charged with assault/DV 19.5% of the time The female(abuser) is arrested 26.5% of the time placed in jail 21.5% of the time charged with assault/DV 13.25% of the time The remaining 40.2%, the cops either wouldn't respond at all, or responded but would not arrest anyone. Source
/r/MensRights08/02/15 10:30 AM
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The study lays a lot of that out. Of course, skewing of the type you mention may be impossible to avoid to some degree, as a targeted study on a subject will always attract those with a passion for it. In this case though, it seems more like he was lucky to get as many samples as he did (302)- as he says it was already pretty difficult getting the ones he got to talk about their experiences. Go figure, trauma can be hard. The link I gave above was more of a power-point style synopsis... A full (…
/r/MensRights08/02/15 10:20 AM
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I cannot for the life of me imagine a sane argument against any of the 3 bills in question. The one requiring the campus to report an allegation to PD I get... I disagree with it, but I get the argument. It comes from a well-intended but badly tunnel visioned assumption that the accuser is a victim, and the victim's wishes are more important than anything. But the 3 shot down this week? Granting individual students legal counsel (on their own bill)... Granting student organizations legal counsel…
/r/MensRights07/02/15 07:21 AM
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Probable cause is actually a lesser requirement. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is "I'm so sure the thing happened, I'd bet my conscience and someone's life on it." "Preponderance of evidence" is "I'm 51% sure the thing happened." "Probable cause" is "did a thing happen? Maybe we should look into it."
/r/MensRights07/02/15 01:38 AM
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May I recommend adding this? http://www.clarku.edu/faculty/dhines/male%20helpseekers%20MH%20professionals%20APA%202009-Emily%20final.pdf Mid-scale study on men who had reported DV/IPV as victims, and their experiences. They had a higher rate of PTSD than women who sought help- higher even than women who didn't sleep help. The majority experienced denial of service, and some were even accused by help-lines and shelters of being abusers along the lines of "no, you can't possibly be a victim... You…
/r/MensRights06/02/15 09:19 PM
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Uh... I derp'd is what. Got my "()" and "[]" backwards.
/r/MensRights06/02/15 08:32 AM
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Buried in among these. Specifically, this one. Edit: fixed formatting. Sub-note: specifically, when people in a mutually/reciprocally abusive/violent relationship were each asked what they were responding to the first time they escalated to physical violence/abuse: 1 answer for men: in response to a physical attack 1 answer for women: in response to a verbal attack
/r/MensRights06/02/15 05:49 AM
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By the power granted in me by a moistened bint in a lake somewhere, I hereby name thee Lord of Understatement. Arise, and serve thy people in goodness and a general sense of underwhelming optimism, from now henceforth. Seriously though... "ray of hope"? What you describe is a Death Star laser beam of awesome. It's basically everything we could possibly ask for from a professional teaching this stuff to the next generation of lawyers. My thanks... And if you get the chance... Thank her for all of…
/r/MensRights06/02/15 04:26 AM
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I guess she wins. For context: mutual abuse typically escalates, back and forth, until someone does it gets out. She escalated farther, faster. I'd be curious to know about prior to her attack- if the abuse was mutual, or one-sided... Statistically, she was probably the first to go physical. After the attack, it was clearly mutual: so there were no victims here. It was still tragic, and avoidable, and she should have been arrested for her attack with the knife, and he should have gotten out afte…
/r/MensRights06/02/15 01:24 AM
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You know... I think I've decided to manspread actively, consciously, on purpose, as a form of protest... To draw attention to the casual mutilation of circumcision. Someone challenges me? That's an opportunity: "No, miss, my balls aren't that big... But the scar..."
/r/MensRights05/02/15 10:16 AM
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Not saying "it's important here"... I'm saying "if nothing else, this alone would make it necessary"
/r/MensRights04/02/15 09:49 AM
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Thought I covered that. The second group, after all, was convinced (with an even higher success rate) that they'd experienced a fictional trauma.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 04:09 AM
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"No shit, Sherlock." "Well then, keep digging, Watson."
/r/MensRights03/02/15 05:56 AM
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That song tho. (cat's in the cradle... Somehow turned uplifting instead of heartbreaking)
/r/MensRights02/02/15 01:10 AM
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Yeah. This is a thing that can happen. The therapist may think they're helping. And your daughter may even believe these new memories are real. Because human memory actually is that malleable. Recommended reading for you and your family: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/01/150115102835.htm People can be convinced- quite easily, in only a couple hours, that they committed a crime (that never happened). To the degree that over 70% then confessed to having committed it.
/r/MensRights01/02/15 12:22 PM
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Not that, specifically... But yes. If you want to share, feel free. Many have, and safely so. We get it. If you want to hear our stories, feel free to ask. Details differ, but the gist is- you're not alone. For mine- I was molested by a female baby sitter as a child (6-7yo)... And raped while incapacitated (and I'm pretty sure drugged based on the 8hr erection and tingly-numb-sluggishness) as an adult. After 1 year of being mocked or praised for it, and 10 years of silence... Knowing I wasn't al…
/r/MensRights31/01/15 12:53 PM
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Good article except for the brief but where he tries to tie it all back into patriarchy and misogyny because of the same old trite "being raped makes you the woman" bullshit. It doesn't feminize you any more than raping someone masculinization you. And if that were the source of your shame, perhaps you're sexist... Not society. Or... Perhaps... Rape is dehumanizing, crippling, and horrible... And the human race has no use for crippled, broken men. That's misandry. I will agree though with the re…
/r/MensRights31/01/15 12:45 PM
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I am stealing this quote. The way you phrased it is sublime sir.
/r/MensRights31/01/15 06:32 AM
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Agreed. The only thing in the article that comes close is buried at the end: "It is a serious issue in that there is a percentage of people who answered the survey who do hold points of view that do not support a culture of equality and respect," she said. Which could mean anything... Say, for example, inequalities like suppression of male victims. "On the other hand, there certainly are some answers to the survey that indicate the University of Ottawa is not different from other institutions an…
/r/MensRights30/01/15 10:54 AM
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Very, very well written. Makes the problem clear, leads you neatly into it, without being at all blatant or aggro about it. This is the kind of writing that (in my experience) actually works in our favor.
/r/MensRights30/01/15 01:07 AM
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crime of passion Apologies- I'm using it as the shorthand common to laypeople while you're using legit legal terminology... But I'm given to understand we're on the same page. I don't want to be assuming, but I think you might be pointing out that it's so bad that it shouldn't be used? Which, again, defense will throw anything to mitigate charges and/or attack the elements of a crime. You assume correctly. Perhaps then a rephrase: not "it doesn't matter" but "it really shouldn't matter legally."…
/r/MensRights30/01/15 12:56 AM
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Many ways: Threat/use of violence: same as any violent rape. While men may be stronger on average, that strength advantage can be overcome or made completely null if the woman uses a weapon (women are 4x as likely to do so) or if he feels unable to defend himself (because hitting a woman is bad!) Of course, there are plenty of non-average cases, where a stronger (or simply more determined) woman forces herself on a physically weaker or younger or whatever male. Threat of legal action: "if you do…
/r/MensRights30/01/15 12:02 AM
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And a decent prosecution would say it's irrelevant- that the only feelings that matter are those he felt while getting stabbed, namely pain and fear for his life. There's no way to qualify this as self-defense, and while you're making a case for mitigation as a crime of passion, it fails to meet the legal standard for that.
/r/MensRights29/01/15 11:42 PM
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I'm aware, but even then, let's say she killed him: this wouldn't qualify as a crime of passion unless she walked in on them in the middle of it... And him Cheating on her says nothing about premeditation. So once again, it's irrelevant. More importantly, he didn't die, and there's no rational reason why that little nugget would downgrade her from attempted murder to assault... The difference there is intent (to kill vs to harm), and given 6 stab wounds, intent to kill seems pretty clear. One co…
/r/MensRights29/01/15 08:17 PM
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Granted- that is a normal human impulse... But it gets in the way here, in a BIG way. And there's a difference between acknowledging she's bonkers and exploring that, and the way it's being reported here. The difference between an explanation and an excuse is that an explanation explains someone's behavior... And an excuse tries to excuse it. (Language really is that simple, sometimes.) I can understand the desire for an explanation. This isn't one. This is an excuse.
/r/MensRights29/01/15 10:44 AM
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Why the hell does it matter if he cheated on her? Do all women have some sort of switch in their heads that causes them to immediately lose control of their actions when a man does something they don't like? Are they really all just poorly programmed robots? No? Then why the hell does it matter?
/r/MensRights29/01/15 05:55 AM
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Innocent until proven guilty is a standard in all western nations. Yet, these kinds of laws still manage to gain traction... And fighting them in appeal on constitutional grounds (incl. Magna Carta) would be easy, but you shouldn't ever need to.
/r/MensRights29/01/15 05:52 AM
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Sure, sure... But wasn't completely shutting down all the fraternities for a month based on an unfounded accusation against a single fraternity "punishing them for being male"? Well, have some equality. Your turn to be punished for being (your gender here).
/r/MensRights28/01/15 11:58 PM
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It is a joke, but an offensive kind. The intent is to show "Look how easy this is. Look how obvious. Stupid men, raping all the time." Which (even if there were any truth to the rape culture myth) is really patronizing, coming from someone who supposes to fight the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights25/01/15 05:00 PM
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For that matter, there are gay and trans men who support the MRM because our issues affect them. There are MRAs who are involved in marriage equality issues, because those issues matter to them. Just because there's a separation of effort doesn't mean we don't care about gay or trans issues.
/r/MensRights24/01/15 11:06 PM
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Keep an eye on this one: I'll be curious to see how his sentence for watching compares to her sentence for doing.
/r/MensRights24/01/15 02:40 AM
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Well, lgbt rights may not be our focus, but we do generally support equality in general. That said, we support the rights of all men. That includes a trans man's rights, and the rights of trans women- as each has a claim to either entering or leaving our sphere of concern, they're part of it. Frankly, I've seen feminists be absolutely fucking awful to both groups. We try to make a habit of learning from their mistakes, so I'd hope we're better about such issues.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 10:49 AM
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Police were actually present. They went on record as saying they didn't feel they could do anything to stop the mob... because they were women.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 03:42 AM
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I'm glad you listed this as satire... I wouldn't have been able to tell, otherwise. Seriously. This kind of shit happens all the time. There are apparently even jails in Australia with full 24/7 child care services just so children can remain with their incarcerated mothers full-time. Not even kidding. All these links based off a quick google search or two, and about 10 minutes of effort.
/r/MensRights19/01/15 10:24 PM
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Yak.
/r/MensRights19/01/15 09:54 PM
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This is, odd as it sounds to say, somewhat of a grey area among the MHRM. That is- if you were incapacitated, it was absolutely rape. If you were impaired.... Um... Need more input: How impaired were you, and how impaired is too impaired (keeping in mind that this varies from person to person)? Such questions have been labelled victim blaming, but are really just an attempt at respectful nuance- everyone is, after all, different... And every case deserves to be judged independently and with care…
/r/MensRights19/01/15 09:44 PM
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Actually, there have been DOZENS if not hundreds of studies on murder/stealing/cheating. Universally, if you were guaranteed to get away with it, 80-90% of people said they would. In cases of theft/cheating, this was shown to actually happen at least the majority of the time (so they weren't just saying it).
/r/MensRights18/01/15 05:43 AM
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I understand, but it comes down to permission. The guys gave permission to have the photos used (after all, they've already gone through hell over this). She wouldn't, likely afraid of reprisal. And so she'll get away without any.
/r/MensRights18/01/15 05:40 AM
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Wow, the Author's experiences of bullying are so unique, I can't imagine... Oh wait. I don't need to imagine... I can remember. I can remember worse than name calling and shaming... Plenty of that, but also outright beatings. So Author can kindly go fuck off.
/r/MensRights16/01/15 11:08 PM
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So, since we're encouraged by everyone not to report it (because the best case scenario is they don't believe us, and worst case is we get arrested for the crime we were a victim of).... Why speak up about it at all? The way he brought it up was very thoughtfully done to raise awareness about the way it was handled by the university, YWCA, etc, and make it clear that there is such a thing as male-victim assault, and a double standard in how people respond to it. Reporting as you ask isn't reason…
/r/MensRights15/01/15 10:54 PM
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Sociologists think it's because of you kill 90% of the men in a tribe, it can recover... Kill 90% of the women, and the tribe is screwed. So, literally, we're disposable. Better we should die for them, than they die at all.
/r/MensRights14/01/15 02:56 AM
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Because they think it's derailing the conversation and/or trying to dodge responsibility for the actions of the group, and rings of complacency (not my problem). Nevermind that they derailed the conversation 2 generations ago when they made a human problem out to be a gendered one, despite evidence that men were victimized as much as women. Nevermind that individuals are responsible for their actions alone, and judging groups like that is definitionally bigotry- some say notallmen goes without s…
/r/MensRights12/01/15 11:50 PM
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Sexist, yes- by definition, as others have stated. Bigoted or wrong? Eh... Maybe not. It is, after all, a naturally occurring statistical imbalance- which is exactly what these companies run on. But by that same measure, a lot of things feminists whine about aren't wrong either.
/r/MensRights10/01/15 02:50 AM
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Links are saved at home, so I'll hit them up later, but yeah. I prefer to include sources and citations as well- just didn't have them with me.
/r/MensRights09/01/15 09:33 PM
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Classic Texas Sharpshooter/Confirmation Bias.
/r/MensRights09/01/15 09:30 PM
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Could be, yes. It is possible. It isn't the case however, as multiple random samples of MtP victims have always reported that the majority of their attackers are female (consistently 80% or higher)
/r/MensRights09/01/15 09:01 PM
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Good news, but worth noting: This doesn't force shelters to accept men, nor does it turn every women's shelter into a battered-person's shelter. It's an internal directive to be gender-neutral in referring to shelters, not a law mandating that shelters be gender-neutral. So male victims of DV/IPV can now benefit from SNAP... But only if they find a shelter that will take them. And there are fewer men's shelters in the nation than women's shelters in my city, so... Still lots of work to be done.
/r/MensRights08/01/15 09:16 PM
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True, although grammatically correct... Quite dangerous where legal documents are concerned. I've heard of several cases where lawyers seized on such language in a legal code to their advantage, and won. This looks more like a non-official FAQ though, so... Yeah.
/r/MensRights08/01/15 09:12 PM
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Fair... Though that 95% includes the two-thirds or so who were outright told that the agency only serves women, and the third or so that were redirected to an abuser (not victim) service.... So I'm willing to call their impression quite valid.
/r/MensRights08/01/15 09:06 PM
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More than "felt blamed"... Male victims of domestic violence have a higher chance of getting arrested than their abuser if they call PD (30% vs 24%. If you consider how often charges are dropped, it's even worse- male victims see jail almost twice as often as their abusers). Men meanwhile who seek support are often told outright "No sir, you must be mistaken. You're not being abused, you're male. Here's a hotline for men who abuse women." That's not "feeling blamed"... That's being blamed. Not e…
/r/MensRights08/01/15 12:21 PM
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I'll have to keep an eye out for that, so I can say "Well, the absolute worst has to be how much she hits me. I mean, the verbal and emotional abuse suck- so does being cut off from all my male friends because 'I'm going to be a father now' (air quotes) but the hitting is definitely the worst. Except maybe the time she drew a knife on me. I don't know? What do you think?" Just to see how they'll respond.
/r/MensRights08/01/15 12:15 PM
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Because only women have gender, obviously. /s
/r/MensRights06/01/15 08:51 PM
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Those. TL/DR: 371,000 sample meta-study shows DV/IPV is roughly 50/50 m/f. With a sample size like that, the data is near unassailable. Multiple studies show something like 20% of couples experience DV/IPV, of which just over half are mutual (52-60% of 20% let me ballpark 11%). Of the remaining 9%, the slim majority are female-perpetrated (hence 5% and 4%). That said, it seems men still do more damage on average, but not by much... One of those studies was of documented DV/IPV-related ER visits …
/r/MensRights06/01/15 01:00 PM
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But we're required to have lower standards, or we're assholes. Meanwhile, they pat themselves on the back for having the higher standards that we're not allowed.
/r/MensRights06/01/15 02:45 AM
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So why do they grow up to be abusers? Simple. The vast, vast majority don't... Or learn it from women. 1- 80% of them don't, never being in an abusive relationship ever... 2- While a further 5% are abused by their partner... But still won't hit her. 3- 11% learn to hit because they're involved in a mutually abusive relationship- more often than not, she struck first... Meaning that they learned to hit women from women. 4- the remaining 4% are assholes, and probably not well represented in your l…
/r/MensRights06/01/15 02:43 AM
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So much bs... She literally says: "Gross things are seen as masculine, and women aren't allowed to be masculine, which is misogyny!" Would anyone like to point out to her that seeing "gross things as masculine" in the first place is misandry?
/r/MensRights06/01/15 02:35 AM
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The actual numbers (if you count made to penetrate, but don't count prison rape) are nearly 50/50 m/f victims, 50/50 m/f perpetrators. If you do count prison rape... Ballpark 70/30 m/f victims, 70/30 m/f perpetrators.
/r/MensRights04/01/15 03:14 AM
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omg... I'm not even halfway through and I'm... Feeling... So many things. Bookmarked because I need to finish this... But also need to take a break from it for a minute.
/r/MensRights03/01/15 06:29 AM
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Granted. Where I think the linked post is right though is that we can afford to do both well... And can't afford to be a movement that only does online activism. Just as we can't afford to only do offline.
/r/MensRights03/01/15 02:09 AM
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That's part of the problem... Probably the bigger part, too. The other is that the UCR (unlike the CDC's death statistics, for example) is completely voluntary, too... So a lot of stuff simply never makes it in, if a given department never reports it... Yet again, another opportunity for bias to skew their numbers. As for better sources... If you're willing to overlook that the CDC classifies MtP under "Other Sexual Assault"- and never lists it on the front page of their press releases like they…
/r/MensRights03/01/15 02:02 AM
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No worries. This isn't a man-cave by any means. Hell, on any given day, at least 3-4 posts on our front page reference women in our movement. You have as much a right to a seat here as anyone... Because that's what equality demands. When we call ourselves men's rights activists- we don't mean that we're all men, or think women have nothing to offer. We mean that we're primarily focused on dealing with issues that affect men. When it comes down to it, most of us are egalitarians... So we don't de…
/r/MensRights02/01/15 02:49 AM
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Looking at their data though, they can't possibly be counting MtP. And the CDC handling of the issue is just awful. You're right though: neither has any legal bearing... Except that both are used to inform media reporting and human bias... Which the affect the DAs who file charges and juries to decide guilt, thus skewing convictions. The laws on most states are general enough to be fair... But the media/public opinion and (from that) police operating biases ruin it for male victims seeking justi…
/r/MensRights01/01/15 09:59 PM
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Eh... No. But we could also do more physical stuff (on the whole, as a group) without cutting back on the online advocacy. Where it's working, we should continue. Where it's not- it's time to seek other avenues. Myself for example- over this last year, I've been very active online... Some here, but 90% of my effort among my limited outreach- friends, family, and Ther friends and family. I've convinced pretty much any of them that could be (fortunately, most of them) but there's no ripple effect …
/r/MensRights01/01/15 09:52 PM
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Which just tells me you're confused... Especially if you think hate was a motivating factor in Normandy. That... That was mostly anger, mixed in with a bunch of positive "let's save France" motivation. I'm sure any number of boots on the ground felt real hatred for the nazi's, or even the Germans in general, but it was the anger over what they'd done that motivated our involvement in that war... Not hatred of the people. Hatred of a people is, though, what motivated the holocaust... See the diff…
/r/MensRights31/12/14 07:18 PM
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Be angry, absolutely. Hate though tends to be a lot less helpful/productive/healthy. You're also expressing it on such a way as to be problematic- it is (or verges on, or seems to be) a blanket statement of the same kind that helps make feminism what we here know it to be. Not kosher. Worse, you state it in a way that would, at a glance, confirm all their accusations against us- in a way that they could use as further ammunition in the media against us. Granted, they may well be up to twisting a…
/r/MensRights31/12/14 11:59 AM
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He writer did admit that many of her bad behaviors were learned from feminism.
/r/MensRights31/12/14 11:46 AM
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Not yet, that I know of... But last I heard, it was projected to pass in Jersey of all places before the midterm elections, and that was last month.
/r/MensRights30/12/14 02:25 AM
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Huh. Odd thought. You know the new "fraud rape" laws being pushed in some states? (If you lie to someone to get them into bed, it's rape.) Does "til death do us part" count? If she asks for a divorce, then she was lying when she said that (in front of witnesses and on a legal document no less!)... Can you then claim that every sexual encounter during the marriage was rape? Hell- the rest of the vows, too... If these laws are designed around "I wouldn't have slept with him if I'd know he was poor…
/r/MensRights30/12/14 01:00 AM
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One would wonder... If the semen- the f'ing genetic material -is no longer his, once it leaves his body... How is it logical to deem the child his?
/r/MensRights30/12/14 12:56 AM
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"Let's give this child to a known sex offender, and then pay them to take care of him/her... what could possibly go wrong?"
/r/MensRights29/12/14 11:26 PM
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Better example would be a victim who was incapacitated, had fragmented memories of the attack, and fingers the wrong attacker (remembering flashes say of a guy who helped her to bed, then being attacked in that bed- not knowing the attacker was a second guy who came in later). This is a mistaken accusation- she was still raped, but not by who she accused, and there's no malice. Randomly pointing to a guy she knows wasn't her attacker is a problem- no matter her reason (malice, self-preservation,…
/r/MensRights27/12/14 04:19 PM
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It was more the former. She's trying to push a bill that uses Title IX to pressure schools into abandoning civil liberties in order to better punish phantom rapists- the statistics she clings to and built the bill on have been debunked, and these new ones are being used to point out that her emergency measures (that violate civil liberties) are in response to a non-emergency- both silly and dangerous.
/r/MensRights27/12/14 05:34 AM
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Everyone assumes you're trolling- that seems likely- but on the off chance you're not... Serious answer: No. Rape is never justified. Even in war. Even in jail. 2 wrongs don't make a right. Executions are on occasion justified because it is form of self-defense on behalf of society re: a person who has proven to be an ongoing threat and who has essentially given up their own right to life by violating that of another. Rape has no such claim. It doesn't reduce crime. It doesn't protect anyone. It…
/r/MensRights26/12/14 04:02 PM
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No gender roles but what you choose, I suppose.
/r/MensRights26/12/14 03:14 PM
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I am absolutely impressed with the fair and even treatment... Less impressed with the numbers, as they can be a bit misleading. The first set especially... "Sexual violence other than rape" seems to include a lot stuff: Some legit like stalking and DV/IPV that's serious but may not be getting quite the right shakedown here. Some that may be noteworthy but absurd to include as "sexual violence" like harassment. And we all know the CDC's history of including things like "have you ever had sex whil…
/r/MensRights26/12/14 03:14 PM
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My libertarian friends call me a "minarchist" who just doesn't realize it yet (they also say that I'll eventually realize minarchy doesn't work, and choose anarchy as the only alternative). I disagree... More a centrist really. I don't see anarchy as either viable or valuable... But neither do I like the system as-is. Needs a serious overhaul, but I'm not up for completely discarding it.
/r/MensRights26/12/14 12:06 PM
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Dammit... Now I've got 20 tabs open, and I've lost an hour and a half. Not the first time either. I love tvtropes... It's like a glass of warm milk sprinkled with cocaine. Still, damn you OP. Damn you! /khaaaaaaan!
/r/MensRights26/12/14 12:03 PM
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Economic Left/Right: -1.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.03
/r/MensRights25/12/14 12:14 AM
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Sub-clarification: the Supreme Court still ruled the S.Service legal on the specific grounds that it was payment for the right to vote- those exact words. A SCOTUS ruling bears as much weight as actual law- so while you're right and the S.Service code doesn't explicitly remove the vote (just a felony, etc, as you describe), it is still tied to your right to vote. Even in states where felons are allowed to vote, the federal government could cite the SCOTUS ruling to strip your vote until you regi…
/r/MensRights24/12/14 05:05 PM
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"Ah," but they'll say, "you aren't being forced- you can opt to lose citizenship, pay a fine and go to jail... No one's stopping you." "And if you do sign, you don't have to be a soldier- just serve the military in a non-war function so we can make someone else serve. See how benevolent we are as we threaten you into 'voluntary' slavery?"
/r/MensRights24/12/14 08:28 AM
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Even then. The selective service allows you to file as a conscientious objector as you say, but that doesn't get you out of service altogether- just out of combat or direct involvement. If they pick your name and you refuse to fight, they can still train you as a medic. If you refuse any deployment, they can put you on the factory floor building tanks. If you refuse any direct involvement, they'll have you posted to a desk, and assign whoever used to be there the front lines. If you're an object…
/r/MensRights24/12/14 08:26 AM
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By the letter of the law, they have to keep looking until they find something you don't mind doing, but they own you otherwise.
/r/MensRights24/12/14 05:06 AM
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Don't be appalled. I think he's saying that using statistics is acceptable if the selection is random. IE, if your hiring process involves hiring whatever names you pull out of a hat, then yeah, statistics matter a lot (but make sure you've got them right). Statistics are valuable, but always trumped by judgement.
/r/MensRights24/12/14 01:06 AM
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In the US, yes, it's just not been activate in decades. Your citizenship, vote, and access to anything government funded or controlled is dependent on your agreement to participate. Kinda sounds like they're ignoring our consent and coercing us into bed.
/r/MensRights24/12/14 01:02 AM
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Mostly no one cares because they don't even think twice about it. Hell, many don't even know. My senior year, when I turned 18, my high school signed me up for me, without even telling me. For those who do know about it, either don't know about the right to vote or don't care... Many fall back on the "so what if it's wrong, it'll never happen to me" defense, and remain blissfully ignorant.
/r/MensRights24/12/14 12:00 AM
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Yes and no. Conscription is worse, because it's active. The Selective Service (aka draft) hasn't been activated in decades, so the current US military is 100% voluntary. That said, a couple of senators are pushing for it, because they think it'll make the nation less interested in war. Last but not least, the Selective Service does allow a couple loose "outs"- namely, you can refuse front-line service as a conscientious objector, but you still have to serve in some capacity... If you object to f…
/r/MensRights23/12/14 11:54 PM
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You hit the nail on the head- except volunteering is mandatory. Registration is a little more than that- it's a database of names, but also contractual agreement to serve (such that if there ever is a draft, and you refuse, it's a crime). And yes- the vote is contingent on agreement to serve in the event of a draft. The Supreme Court actually called the Selective Service "payment for the right to vote" when they upheld it as legal. Basically, you lose citizenship if you don't sign up- no vote, n…
/r/MensRights23/12/14 11:24 PM
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Not hardly enough. But you're right- there's nothing wrong with this charity or its work. They're not doing any harm- if anything, criticize the NYT for not giving equal time to men's mental health.
/r/MensRights23/12/14 02:54 AM
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If said money came from an almost exclusively white clientele, sure. I don't know what in the hell you're selling, but sure.
/r/MensRights23/12/14 02:52 AM
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Article says 8? Also, it neither involved a gun, nor a male attacker, so don't expect anyone in the US to give a fuck.
/r/MensRights20/12/14 01:29 PM
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He has proven this, by default. The article says he has been charged with multiple sex offenses. Either he wasn't convicted (in which case, he was found not guilty, and is being punished despite that finding)... Or he was found guilty, served his time and was released on parole. That "proving you're rehabilitated enough to fit into society" you mention is exactly what parole is about. When he was arrested for the petty theft, it wasn't listed as a parole violation, so he'd completed his parole..…
/r/MensRights19/12/14 09:51 AM
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Can we get a link to the actual law- or at least specific reference to it to search? The 2 links in the article are to investigative reports on DV laws... Not to the new law itself.
/r/MensRights19/12/14 03:52 AM
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Oh, he's done awful things... And served time for them. Getting arrested on suspicion that he (maybe) may one day (maybe) commit (maybe) a crime (maybe) eventually (maybe) is a huge constitutional/human-rights issue. Where it touches on the MHRM is here: FL law doesn't seem to cover made-to-penetrate as a crime, except with a minor (and then only as statutory rape). This issue inflames that one. Sentencing disparity between men and women committing the same crime is already a hot-key issue aroun…
/r/MensRights19/12/14 03:46 AM
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He was put in jail because he is a VIOLENT sex offender... No, he wasn't. He was arrested for petit theft (under $100). In FL, this carries a max of 60 days imprisonment. Instead, he's being detained for life. Not for the theft. Not for a sex crime (yes, he has that history, but had already served his time and even finished his parole... Extending that sentence here would be a violation of double jeopardy). Were he to commit another crime, he could be convicted, and his history would no doubt af…
/r/MensRights19/12/14 03:39 AM
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Although it may have been my lead-in and the bulk of the comment... I want to be sure you know the more important bit is this: you aren't alone. My experience may not be identical, but none of ours really are, because if nothing else, we all deal differently. But you aren't ever alone.
/r/MensRights18/12/14 11:20 AM
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Police will take it more seriously than your ripe crisis center did- because f/f rape is covered by the law, and they're required to pursue any reports made... They're right that it won't likely go to court, but that has more to do with this: The drug isn't in my system anymore and it's my word against hers. That makes it very hard to pursue a case legally, since all she has to do to get out of it is provide reasonable doubt. This, not some 'rape culture' is the real reason conviction rates are …
/r/MensRights18/12/14 03:49 AM
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Do you support woman's suffrage (aka the right to vote) The only time this issue has EVER come up in this subreddit, or even generally among MRAs is to protest the fact that men don't have that same right... Because for men in the US at least, voting isn't a right... It's a purchased ability. In order to be eligible to vote, men have to sign up for the selective service (aka the draft). Failure to do so results in expatriation (loss of citizenship) as well as fines and jail time. I'm not being h…
/r/MensRights16/12/14 10:48 AM
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Finding out I wasn't alone. A little bit of everything, but the big thing was this: my narrative runs almost completely counter to the feminist narrative. Sexually abused as a child by an older female babysitter. Both of us had single mothers who agreed not to do anything about it because they didn't want to ruin her life. Can we say Matriarchy? Frequently bullied growing up by both boys and girls, to varying degrees, until about 13 or so. Got to see the girls get away with it because no one was…
/r/MensRights16/12/14 04:28 AM
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Imagine being a pure moderate. Everyone thinks centrists are the enemy. But nevertheless- thanks for being sane... I really, really do appreciate it.
/r/MensRights15/12/14 10:35 PM
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Honey, rape isn't just about overpowering someone (man or woman)- that's assault. If you want to consider teabag gong your digital opponent "virtual rape" then you're going to need to acknowledge that it's a near-exclusively male-victim crime (as female avatars in such games are taboo). You're also going to have to be an idiot, but I trust you have that one taken care of.
/r/MensRights13/12/14 09:14 PM
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India is just plain kind of awful to both genders, here... You're right, but so is he (lest you forget the mob-rule executions over there for men accused of sexual assaults).
/r/MensRights13/12/14 01:46 AM
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I really don't have anything to add, just wanted to draw a little extra attention to this, as a circumcised guy: Meanwhile, my cut lovers... well, they're fun, but there's something missing. It takes concerted, focused effort for them to finish, and once they're done, they can't be touched for a while afterward. It kind of kills the mood a bit. It interrupts the tempo. For us, too. Orgasms seem to take more work, are more unpredictable, and frequently feel disappointing.
/r/MensRights12/12/14 02:13 AM
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Your math seems a bit off to me... It's ~17-35 per 100,000 reported. Doubling it would make 34-70 per 100,000 or ~1 per 2000, not 1 in 1000. Why stop there, though? Let's give them every advantage, everything they claim and still prove them wrong. Assume all of those are women, and assume only 10% of actual victims report it... That would make ~170-350 per 100,000... Or .17-.35% Still less, on average, than the number of reported assaults... And nowhere near epidemic, or the usual 1-in-X claims.…
/r/MensRights09/12/14 09:22 AM
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This took some serious Google-fu to track down, the story basically dropped off the radar right after this article. Original bill was proposed in 2008/2009 to include female sexual assault of a minor, in response to the sudden realization that it wasn't a crime for a mother to have sex with her 9yo son (this actually happened, and they were forced to pursue a minor misdemeanor sexual exposure charge instead of rape). Knesset (legislative body) said they would pass it if it were rephrased to incl…
/r/MensRights09/12/14 12:19 AM
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This. Ultimately, he's an egalitarian, but one who simply hasn't seen our side of the debate. That's an easy fix. The jokes are nothing new and nothing to get pissed about. His stance here is a good one. As for me- no, I don't like the man, any more than I like any ideologue (atheists are cool w/ me... Radical Antitheists not so much)... But I can compartmentalize the issues just fine. This vid didn't bother me. Anti-Darwinian society is exactly what we're looking for- because frankly, it's evol…
/r/MensRights08/12/14 11:38 PM
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Actively shutting down existing shelters? No- there would have to be some first... And they've done a damn fine job preventing any traction for one. Look up Erin Pizzey- she makes an excellent foundation for any research into this area. After founding the world's first women's shelter, she discovered in interviews that many (if not most) of her victims were also abusers themselves. She suggested opening a men's shelter, and was driven from her own movement- receiving death threats, and being for…
/r/MensRights08/12/14 11:35 PM
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True. Couple prices of advice I can give... Keep your story consistent. This seems obvious and easy, but memory is kinda fickle. If you can, ask for a copy of your original statement, and if pressed, stick by it. If it goes to court, someone will try to trip you up by asking questions that make you seem inconsistent or foolish. Remember: crazy is scarier than strong. The reason cops often side with the woman is because the man seems calm and she seems hysterical, so they think she makes a more p…
/r/MensRights08/12/14 05:35 AM
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See, I'm somewhat fond of things like martial arts (especially sword and spear, cause I'm weird like that), so for me, there's violence, and then there's violence. I've sparred plenty in my life, with male friends, in controlled environments and circumstances. But I've only ever been abused, assaulted, or attacked in an uncontrolled, non-friendly way... by women. Usually because they have social armor- they couldn't conceive of the idea that I might consider that a threat and defend myself. They…
/r/MensRights07/12/14 06:37 AM
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This. Deluding yourself into ego-mania is obviously bad. Deluding yourself into depression and self-hatred is, IMO, far worse. A lot of people are reading this and thinking that this is the former... I see it as a way to fight the latter. A woman hears "You're a princess" and that gives her the idea that she doesn't need to do anything to be pampered. A guy hears "You're a warrior, a prince" and it feeds the idea that he can accomplish anything. See the difference?
/r/MensRights07/12/14 03:25 AM
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Speaking literally... Perhaps. I was more encouraged by the... Well, encouragement. Be proud of yourself. A nice change from the usual demonization and shame.
/r/MensRights06/12/14 11:40 AM
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Look at how feminists complained about the last Tomb Raider... Awesome, complex, strong female lead... But oh noes, an attempted rape/abuse scene?
/r/MensRights05/12/14 10:34 PM
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Not news: it might be easier at this point to get a list of things that aren't sexist, according to feminists. Including women in media? Sexist. Excluding them? Sexist. Not giving a fuck what they think? The most sexist.
/r/MensRights03/12/14 04:20 AM
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If my kid acts up, I hope I wouldn't overhand pummel him with what appears to be a full bottle. There are sufficient cues in this one to show abuse, not discipline... And I'm ok with the message that stopping abuse is good. Equally nice (since it's a projection and such would be easy to manage) would be if they set it up to alternate images every so often- showing various forms of obvious abuse, perpetrated by both men and women.
/r/MensRights01/12/14 02:03 PM
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While it's easy to ballpark some of these... I'd like to see this side-by-side with each sector's average income, and average mortality and suicide rates. That might require a breakdown by job, though, not just sector.
/r/MensRights30/11/14 03:10 PM
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Can't prove a negative. What's been proven is that life doesn't need a Creator to have come into existence. Subtle but significant difference. The rest of your point stands.
/r/MensRights26/11/14 02:39 AM
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One simple reason men should have a say: If it's really her body, her choice... It's her choice, her responsibility. Pro-choice and paternal responsibility are mutually exclusive. If we have no say, no rights, then we shouldn't bear the burden of that choice. At all.
/r/MensRights19/11/14 08:56 PM
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I'll one-up you... Not just women being beaten to death... People being beaten to death. ISIS and Boko Haram don't distinguish between western educated men and western educated women (except that women are worth re-educating, and men aren't even worth their weight in rotting meat and fertilizer). The danger of the "but there's worse stuff to focus on" narrative you're taking is that it, too, can go off the rails in a bad, bad way... Be used as an excuse to ignore serious problems in favor of sup…
/r/MensRights19/11/14 03:35 AM
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A bit on-the-nose, the connection between Privilege and Debt there, no?
/r/MensRights19/11/14 02:20 AM
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It's not just a unified or central code- it's also about having central authority. For example: Westboro calls themselves Baptist for a reason- if they tried that shit in the Catholic Church, the Pope could (and probably would) throw them out on their ass. The Baptist church lacks the central structure or authority to draw the line much of anywhere. Most philosophies exist in a spectrum, but some more than others. Feminism was left deliberately vague and decentralized, and now can't do anything …
/r/MensRights19/11/14 02:14 AM
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It is a plausible narrative, and a fair one to tell... the thing the media needs to be careful about is suggesting that it's a common one as all that. It also needs to admit that it cuts both ways. I find it very odd that it shows the guy in the video drinking in nearly every shot, drinking as heavily as she is... and yet, showing no signs of intoxication. Not "he's less drunk than her"... no. He's completely sober. Walking strait, eyes clear, speech clear... this is a guy who, after a good half…
/r/MensRights17/11/14 12:50 PM
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And that's the pragmatist vs realist debate... Both sides of which have great enough merit that I consider it a personal choice more than anything else. So yeah- your point does still hold merit. If anything, the counterpoint just goes to show how much merit yours has (since the ppl in question are that far gone, that awful and self-centered). Ideally, I'd call try to do both, but that's hard. Start by calling them out on their bad behavior because it's bad behavior and make sure than when you m…
/r/MensRights14/11/14 02:05 AM
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Alternately, the author realizes his target audience is self-serving to such a degree that only an appeal to themselves will succeed. "You're wrong"/"you're harming (some/most/good) men" will be ignored. So, just like when you're trying to get a stubborn child to mow the lawn, you have to point out (or create) consequences for them before they'll pay attention, much less act. Edit: You may be right- I can't speak to the author's motive, but neither can anyone else... And I offer the alternative …
/r/MensRights13/11/14 10:33 PM
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Actually, liberal-anarchist describes libertarians more than anything else. Given how hung up we get on constitutional rights (especially innocent until proven guilty), and governmental meddling, that's no surprise.
/r/MensRights08/11/14 10:54 PM
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Feel free to PM me w/ em- would be easier. That said... No promises. Anger can be good, but... Hatred, not so much. I tolerate anger at feminism among my cohorts- hatred for it not at all... And the same will go for anything you show me. The media has done one hell of a number on the MRM, too... Not just focusing on the angriest fringes, but frequently confusing or mis-identifying vaguely adjacent movements like TRP (which most of us want nothing to do with) as MRM. Last but not least, to be cle…
/r/MensRights08/11/14 12:04 PM
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I've never heard "Get over it" or "Liar" from the MRM. I have, however, heard it time and time again from feminists. The college where it happened was female dominated (70% student body, 60% faculty, 90% administration/support staff, such as the counselors). Their response was nothing but awful. I feel you... but our experiences seem to be very different. That said- I'm one of the moderates in this camp. I see feminism as redeemable, as having a place, and potential... but I see it as needing to…
/r/MensRights08/11/14 06:39 AM
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I like the advice... it's hilarious. "Make a noise" - and startle her, or seem weird. "Or slow down" - thus exposing yourself to more risk of attack, since 80% of assault and murder victims are men, anyway (and like, 90% of those committed by a stranger). "Or something" to make her feel safer at risk to yourself. Shall I walk around slowly, loudly announcing myself every 10-20 feet, like the world's biggest game of Marco Polo? I find the mental image HILARIOUS. "Hello! I don't know if anyone can…
/r/MensRights06/11/14 05:11 PM
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Well said, but BH has been active for over a decade, and killing/kidnapping the whole while. Since it didn't make the news until the kidnapped girls, the logic follows that they've been (largely) getting away with it w/ boys all along. Website needs better sourcing on that particular page, but is generally endorsed by multiple agencies (linked at the bottom of each page), including the UN, as a good fact-checking service for African news.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 09:11 PM
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Given the standard trope being pushed around that all men are animals, this may be ironically appropriate.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 02:20 AM
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I think about rape, because I was raped. Because my friends were raped. Because I keep finding posters in the MRM obsessed with minimizing what rape can do to men and women. So was I, as an adult, by a woman. Unlike feminism, you don't see me labeling all women as potential rapists. Unlike feminism, you don't see me refusing to acknowledge that victims of a given gender even exist. The tools we have today for dealing with these crimes were designed by feminism, and serve to ignore, deny, even fr…
/r/MensRights05/11/14 02:10 AM
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The speech includes a link to the National Domestic Violence Hotline... in which they did a marvelous job of at least writing their website gender-neutral... if anyone knows how their real-world responses are, let me know... But what I found most amusing was this, and this: http://www.thehotline.org/is-this-abuse/abuse-defined/ http://www.thehotline.org/is-this-abuse/lgbt-abuse/ According to their standards, female-on-male domestic violence fits more closely in with the lgbt-abuse model. Way, wa…
/r/MensRights28/10/14 05:10 PM
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Meanwhile, the other 70% either award them equally or award women more. Meanwhile, many sports set lower success boundaries for women, so lower awards make more sense (see, for example, Tennis, where women play fewer and shorter matches, and can take more breaks when it's blisteringly hot).
/r/MensRights28/10/14 04:26 PM
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IF the idea were true, then logically, hating masculine traits in women proves misandry... which kinda undermines the whole patriarchy theory throughout history. You can't have it both ways.
/r/MensRights28/10/14 04:21 PM
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For what it's worth: I see you.
/r/MensRights25/10/14 11:43 PM
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Ok- so instead of two "male gamers" sub "black gamers." The gamers can choose their hobby, but not their gender, and that's the issue being raised.
/r/MensRights25/10/14 11:12 PM
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Of domestic violence numb nuts. No shit, Sherlock. What's your point? Being specific in this particular way doesn't make it any better. I wrote about two pages of context to that comment which you seem to have gleefully ignored.... ... ... 1) only after I asked- ie, specifically demanded context and citation (which you say isn't your job) so you don't get to claim this absolves your original false claim. 2) didn't ignore. Point of fact, I praised your second post as precisely correct. One can cr…
/r/MensRights25/10/14 09:17 PM
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Fair- the justified concern in it though is that it's not an isolated incident... And given the alternating severe/cavalier responses to such in Japan especially... In this instance, the caller was an idiot, the accused was smart, and the cops did right... But given a media that constantly tells everyone about how innately sexual and awful men are... It's one more story (even if a weak one) in a broad and worrying narrative that goes like this: Chivalry isn't dead, it's justifiably scared to com…
/r/MensRights25/10/14 12:08 PM
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Sure- I believe it- I'm just saying it doesn't matter if she is or not... The response is the same, the people making those threats are doing their own cause disservice.
/r/MensRights25/10/14 11:59 AM
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I... kinda think you're both right. Essentially, it doesn't matter, cause the solution is the same. If she's seeking these threats for the sake of PR, not making them cuts her off at the knees. If she genuinely believes these things and getting legitimately terrorized... the people responding need to stay calm and rational, not be dicks. To put it another way: If the threats are something she seeks, knowingly, because it provides her with either PR or some kind of sense of righteousness, then...…
/r/MensRights25/10/14 10:43 AM
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No- your statement was that VAWA made it illegal to help male victims. That is not true. In 1995, if I wanted to help a male victim, buy him dinner, build a shelter, do whatever... I could. Legally. As long as I didn't use VAWA to do it. It's tragic that a gender specific program would become the nation's most powerful... But not really illegal- there are hundreds of private and public grants that are race-specific, but times not racism because taken as a whole, en masse they manage to cover all…
/r/MensRights25/10/14 06:47 AM
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/cough (thought educating people wasn't your job) Nice sources though. The laws in question have given a great deal of lee-way for segregating male and female victims... nor do they require some sort of quota of male victims- merely that the shelter acknowledge their existence and create some sort of response. For them to be closing down like they are... comes down to pure stubborn refusal to help men. So, let them close. It's on them.
/r/MensRights25/10/14 04:27 AM
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It was not illegal to investigate these things, only to use the new source of funding to do so. Yes, it is. Or do you mean this? Second- you stated at the outset that VAWA made investigating male victimization illegal. It didn't. OH, MY BAD, I'M SUCH A HORRIBLE PERSON /s Here, let me fix that. Second- you stated at the outset that VAWA made supporting male victims illegal. It didn't. All better? Way to throw my entire argument out the door because of a single mistaken word that frankly doesn't c…
/r/MensRights25/10/14 04:23 AM
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you stated at the outset that VAWA made investigating male victimization illegal I did not. Feminists actually passed a law (VAWA 1994) saying that it was illegal to help male victims of domestic violence Let's try that again: Feminists actually passed a law (VAWA 1994) saying that it was illegal to help male victims of domestic violence Yep. That's what you said. As for respect- I started out all kinds of respectful, even hedging by suggesting maybe I just didn't see what you saw in the legal c…
/r/MensRights24/10/14 02:22 PM
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This was the nuance I was looking for.
/r/MensRights23/10/14 10:43 PM
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First- much appreciated for the links- not so much the condescension and assumptions. Asking someone to provide their sources isn't unreasonable- so no bitching about how it's my job to verify your statements. Second- you stated at the outset that VAWA made investigating male victimization illegal. It didn't. The closest it came to doing so wasn't even second-hand, but third. Your initial statement was an oversimplification that led to confusion on my part. I brought it up because of that- and a…
/r/MensRights23/10/14 10:42 PM
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That's the fault of the Duluth Model and police training systems, not a specific law. Still not good, but I want to make sure we're addressing the real problem (so we can actually fix it), not a false flag (so we end up wasting our time and looking like idiots/dicks/etc).
/r/MensRights23/10/14 02:36 AM
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Ok- first, I couldn't find specific text on 1994 VAWA. Second- then, specifically, it was illegal under 1994 VAWA to use VAWA funds to investigate male-victim domestic violence or assault... Which makes your statement a nicely misleading bit of sophistry. It was not illegal to investigate these things, only to use the new source of funding to do so. As you say, it became the primary funding source used by any and everyone, but still wasn't the only source available. If a hypothetical millionaire…
/r/MensRights23/10/14 02:33 AM
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Here's 31 boys in June (along with 60 girls): http://www.voanews.com/content/boko-haram-suspected-in-mass-kidnappings-of-nearly-100/1943577.html Here's another 11 boys in August: http://dailypost.ng/2014/08/19/boko-haram-abducts-15-persons-cameroon-village-kills-three/ Drew Hinshaw of WSJ says "Boko Haram has kidnapped hundreds and hundreds of girls, not just those school girls, they’ve also kidnapped hundreds of boys." for PBS, but then immediately goes back to talking about the girls as a poli…
/r/MensRights22/10/14 11:09 PM
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August 10 accounts for the larger group: 38 killed, 25 injured, 97 men and boys kidnapped (presumably for indoctrination as soldiers). Source is CNN (tried to find BBC, most links on google search were buried or via a blog, mixed reputability). http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/15/world/africa/boko-haram-kidnapping/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 Can't locate an article on 60 in June, but there's this at least.
/r/MensRights22/10/14 10:51 PM
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Feminists actually passed a law (VAWA 1994) saying that it was illegal to help male victims of domestic violence... More curiosity than anything else, but source? I'm doing my own research and finding plenty about how it only addressed female victims, and was a generally awful act (still is, despite rewrites attempting to make it gender neutral), but nothing that made helping male victims illegal.
/r/MensRights22/10/14 10:36 PM
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Bitter is bad... but anger... anger is a hammer, and nothing more. Neither good nor bad, you can use it to build something, break something, or just let it sit and rust... it all depends on what you do with it. So... do something with it- something productive, preferably. Plenty of suggestions above.
/r/MensRights22/10/14 07:55 AM
2

Took the words right out of my fucking mouth.
/r/MensRights22/10/14 04:13 AM
2

My personal story runs to sexual assault, not domestic violence, but I'd be willing to share either that or... I decided a year ago that I didn't think it was right to complain about the lack of support for male victims unless I was willing to do something about it. Knowing that there are fewer male-friendly shelters in the nation than female friendly ones in my city, I started working on building a support network for male victims of either domestic/intimate partner violence or sexual assault..…
/r/MensRights20/10/14 12:40 AM
1

Fair enough. Thanks for the citations.
/r/MensRights19/10/14 09:13 AM
26

It will... But it will get everyone killed. A non-volunteer army isn't just going to include the skilled, talented, and strong. A draft only excludes the seriously unfit. If fit men and mediocre men have the same odds of being forced to go to war against their will... Why would fit women be any more of a liability? Edit: worth noting I'm against the draft altogether, but this may be the only way to force the issue. My vote is contingent on my signing a contractual obligation to defend the nation…
/r/MensRights18/10/14 11:50 PM
1

Sort of- I warned you off of putting any more words in my mouth, and using any more obvious fallacies... And noted that after things got this deep (I had to break it up into multiple posts because of char limits), it might be better we both call it... But I left it largely up to you.
/r/MensRights18/10/14 11:43 PM
3

The radicals, likely no- radical anythings are bloody near impossible to turn around or stop... But we can maybe strip them of their voice and make them look like fools. I'm if the (possibly unpopular) opinion that the majority of feminists are people with good intentions, but narrow views bordering on total tunnel-vision. Good people can, after all, do horrible things for good but horribly misguided/ mistaken reasons. Imagine a decent nation invading another based on bad intel that made it seem…
/r/MensRights18/10/14 06:35 PM
3

Um... Higher taxes? Source on this? I mean, specifically, taxes between two people with the same income. Of course given the same bad statistics that birthed the wage gap myth, one would find a tax gap, but I live in the real world. I mean, if it's real, this is another great cause- a very real legal discrimination like the selective service/vote, reproductive rights, etc., but one I'm not aware of any basis for.
/r/MensRights18/10/14 06:20 PM
8

At an all-girl school, wouldn't a trans-man be definitionally the best choice for a diversity rep? Wouldn't a woman be definitionally not at all diverse? Isn't the fact that all 3 competitors were "women of color" suggest a lack of diversity in the diversity board?
/r/MensRights18/10/14 10:33 AM
1

...You're going to tell those men that feminism is wonderful, stands for equality and represents all women. Brilliant. I never said that those men should support feminism- on fact, quite the opposite, over and over and over: I said feminism needs to be fixed, but it's not my job (or yours, or theirs) to fix it. My job (and yours and theirs) is to stand up for our issues and address them- get working on them as publicly as possible- without getting hung up on feminism except to point out the flaw…
/r/MensRights18/10/14 05:58 AM
1

Your idea, from what I can see, is to tell them nobody is to blame and they need to support more feminism, as if none of the past had happened... Not what I said. Not even a little. But I'm sure you don't care. It's much easier for you to argue with me if you assume whatever you want, so you'll keep doing it. What I said though, is that getting fixated on the blame and hate, and getting aggressive doesn't fix anything- just perpetuates a pendulum swing of self-righteousness from both sides. I've…
/r/MensRights18/10/14 05:54 AM
1

Neither are possible while feminism exists because it's the state backed monopoly on gender issues, and it's hate. I don't particularly see either as being likely any time soon, but I disagree otherwise. It's gonna take some work... But I see a lot of MRA responses as being exactly counter-productive. What if you'd had your wish with the KKK? It boggles my mind how you keep coming back to this, even though I've answered it several times, completely and conclusively. Let's for a moment agree on t…
/r/MensRights18/10/14 05:53 AM
1

This was presented as a quote by me. I didn't say that. The ranty shouting all caps stuff and the swearing appear to have been inserted by you. Formatting error, thanks to my phone. I was quoting you and then replying. It should have appeared thus: Again you confuse Nazi/German and feminist/woman. That really is amazingly sloppy thinking at this point in the conversation. And yet you repeatedly take my text and turn it on it's head to presume I mean the exact opposite of what I clearly stated OV…
/r/MensRights18/10/14 05:51 AM
1

You're still contradicting yourself. You're still saying the feminists are like the Nazis at one point in your argument (both hate movements) and saying they are different at another point, by insisting that feminism (but not Nazism or the KKK) can be "fixed". Actually, I said the Nazi's could be fixed, as demonstrated by a nearly identical movement that developed into down thing different and healthy. Doing so would be quite a task, and implausible, but possible. I believed I described exactly …
/r/MensRights18/10/14 05:51 AM
1

So you equate hating a birth group with attacking a political group. I equate irrational hatred with irrational hatred, yes. See how easy it is? More specifically I equate it with fixating on a hatred for a political group. No matter how you cut it, making judgements about an entire social group based off the actions of a few is bigotry. When you excuse that based off personal experience... Still bigotry. Do I really have to tell you how dumb the bowl of MnMs metaphor is? And, all in all, from a…
/r/MensRights18/10/14 05:48 AM
1

You just don't get it. Any of it. Seriously. This stuff is BLINDINGLY obvious to me. How you don't get it is the greatest mystery I've ever encountered... Or it was, until I saw you you managed to take half of what I said and interpret it as the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what I said. OK. Starting over: Your understanding of history is severely lacking. The German Worker's Party (later renamed the National Socialist Party) was elected into power. They had to campaign. We have lots of really solid reco…
/r/MensRights17/10/14 11:11 PM
2

Sometimes, we need more words than the language provides. You say feminism is healthy because it's strong and sturdy. That fits one definition, but then let's call it strong. On the other hand, I say it's not healthy because it is sick, it does not promote health or healthy lives/outlooks in it's members or the rest of the world. This is what I mean by healthy, and it most certainly is not healthy regardless of how strong it may be. So you want to fix the Nazis for example? Godwin already? Alrig…
/r/MensRights16/10/14 05:35 AM
1

"But the first decision was his." And that makes whatever she does all his fault. I remember thinking like that when I was a very young child: "see what you made me do?" Ridiculous.
/r/MensRights16/10/14 12:27 AM
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I don't see it as apologetics- he quite clearly points out that for all their talk of equality for everyone, they've failed in action to give a shit at all. From there, he goes on to suggest that rather than dismantling feminism... We can fix it. As a rule, I'd always rather fix something broken than throw it out, and I appreciate at least keeping the option on the table. Failing a unified egalitarian movement (which is my preference), we're going to need both a healthy, productive MHRM and femi…
/r/MensRights16/10/14 12:10 AM
2

You aren't "supposed" to feel any certain kind of way, whatever anyone says. Yes, it was rape. You at least made that clear. But. How we each deal with that differs person to person. Any question of how you're "supposed" to feel is a problem, because according to society, as a male, you're supposed to be glad, because someone else thinks they would be. Screw that. But just because someone else thinks they would be shattered doesn't mean you should be that, either. Long haul, healing means seeing…
/r/MensRights13/10/14 05:43 PM
1

If you're really worried: Make it VERY clear any time you sleep with someone that you want protection and don't consent to sex without it or to having kids. At that point, of she tries to take the condom off, or take it away, she's violating your conditional consent to sex. And... I hate to say it, but besides being uncommon at worst, some things are just too big to stress over. Your high sperm count makes you about as much of a target for this as a guy with a metal rod in his back becomes a spe…
/r/MensRights10/10/14 05:49 PM
2

he didn't stop me How, exactly, was he supposed to stop her without potentially hurting her, something he's no doubt been conditioned to avoid? Eugh.
/r/MensRights10/10/14 12:51 AM
1

raises hand
/r/MensRights10/10/14 12:41 AM
1

Welp, there goes a lot of art and literature. By their logic, half the Louvre could be out to the torch.
/r/MensRights08/10/14 05:40 AM
1

No, you're right... What they did say though was that the most common reason women made these claims (in their own words) was extortion or revenge. I can only think if a few reasons myself, leading me to believe that of the 1.4k, for that to be the most common, we're looking at at least hundreds of such. In a single month.
/r/MensRights08/10/14 05:37 AM
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Don't forget the unusually high rate at which rape convictions are overturned. IIRC, the Innocence Project has overturned 1/3 of the appeals they've taken on, based entirely on backlog DNA evidence completely clearing the convicted man. Evidence that was collected but never run until they ran it.
/r/MensRights07/10/14 11:34 PM
2

Based on that statement, yeah. Some further digging shows that the "true" cases were ones that are going to trial, having met standards of evidence that a rape at least occurred... Meanwhile, the "false" category represents those that either lacked evidence, or had conflicting evidence that disproved the rape. On investigation, the majority of these were deliberate false claims, but some of them may be cases of the girl being raped with insufficient evidence or raped, but not by who she accused,…
/r/MensRights07/10/14 09:55 PM
3

Keep in mind, this is a country where mob justice is still an option. If a woman is raped and tells her family, they frequently used to band up to hunt him down and either force him to marry her or kill him, iirc. The system they built was intended to encourage these reports go to the state, and justice system instead. It's at least plausible that they get a non-representative number of conclusively true or false cases as a result- Women who know fall in the inconclusive category and know it may…
/r/MensRights07/10/14 09:08 PM
9

She apparently got at least $750k from the school (it was supposed to be 1.5M, but there was a settlement for 750k up front)... assuming she still has that, she only owes the school the settlement back plus lawyer fees, court costs and interest (hence $1M). The other 1.6M are punitive damages, which I hope are going to him, but nothing I can find says. At the very least, the state owes him for his time served (by law, although I don't know the rate in his state, and it's rarely sufficient, consi…
/r/MensRights05/10/14 11:43 PM
1

Think on a broader scale. It's best illustrated with children, however... and I originally got the idea from a child development class. A lot of people these days think that any sort of physical punishments for children are abuse, by nature- because as an adult, you have power, and are using it to vindictively harm a child for doing something you don't like. Granted, if that's what's going on, it's abuse... but: When your 3-yo wants to hug the wood stove or radiator, explore the stairs, or bite …
/r/MensRights05/10/14 02:40 PM
8

Do you have anything to worry about? Sadly, yes. It varies by college, but more and more are turning to the Salem Witch Trials as a guide to campus justice. That said- comfort to ease your mind abounds, too. You aren't alone, and you can fight it. At least get the advice of a lawyer. Past that, refuse to speak to police, even in interview, unless you have one. Same goes for any campus investigation. If you're not a part of that school's student body, they may not even be able to do anything, but…
/r/MensRights05/10/14 11:39 AM
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Still good, as long as there are ppl out there who haven't seen it, I approve.
/r/MensRights04/10/14 08:49 PM
2

OMC blocked it because it was shady- the mods didn't appreciate using their forum to try and run a social experiment. 2XC, no idea, but if you dig far enough down in the thread, someone speaks up pointing out that this was posted on our sub first, and a moderator probably assumed hijinks or brigading... or is at least using that as an excuse.
/r/MensRights04/10/14 08:22 AM
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Fair on all points... But such a statement shouldn't ever be necessary. Punishments aren't about anger or vengeance, or anything to feel guilty about... They exist to prevent a worse natural consequence. Like, say, the man's wife killing this woman. And then the two families slaughtering eachother Hatfield/McCoy-style. Like, say, her getting away with it completely and doing it again or worse. You have nothing to feel guilty for in seeing that the system saves her life and many others.
/r/MensRights04/10/14 01:39 AM
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Prosecutor said "Don't feel sorry for sending her to jail." Wtf kind of world do we live in where he needs to advise jurors not to feel badly for sending a poisoner and abuser to jail? If he doesn't get new kidneys, he will one day die as a direct, albeit delayed result of this action, making it murder (unless something else gets him first).
/r/MensRights03/10/14 07:58 PM
1

Anger is a hammer. Exactly a hammer and nothing more. It can be a tool. It can be a weapon. It all depends on what you do with it... And depending on the situation, either might be appropriate. Don't 'be cool', be in control. Use the anger well, don't suppress it.
/r/MensRights03/10/14 05:26 PM
1

Wage gap? No. I see, however, a potential employment gap issue here. 9% is statistically noteworthy if her sources are even vaguely reliable.
/r/MensRights01/10/14 04:51 AM
11

Direct reply I found in the comments seems to cover it pretty well: 1- same. Statistics show that men are at a much higher risk of being targeted for violent crime, AND of being persecuted by cops, BUT aren't allowed to show any fear- because we're expected to take care of ourselves. Often we aren't even informed of the risks. 2- fall asleep in clean underwear, wake up in sticky, dirty underwear. I mean, sure- most men masturbate often enough not to have to worry about wet dreams, but I'd say it…
/r/MensRights29/09/14 02:17 AM
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Original article's headline has been changed: now it says "pressured him into losing his virginity" They make that rape sound down-right romantic.
/r/MensRights27/09/14 08:33 AM
1

It's worth noting: 91% of known serial killers are male. Some of the research I've seen shows that men experience stronger emotional states than women (we're simply better trained to contain and control it... right up until we can't- where women feel more free to vent it). As such, men are more likely to commit crimes of passion, while women are more likely to plan a murder out over time. Meaning they're less likely to be sloppy about it. That said, that really only applies to murderers, not ser…
/r/MensRights26/09/14 06:48 PM
9

Someone should call Title IX... Oh wait, that's only for women. I forgot that men can't be legally discriminated against.
/r/MensRights23/09/14 12:59 AM
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My only real complaint was her passing comment that rape is something strong men mostly do to women... It didn't even fit her thesis, don't know why it was in there at all... But that's what comments are for. The thesis itself was still sound and well written. If any issue deserves respectful, open-minded honesty and some f'ing nuance, it's this one.
/r/MensRights21/09/14 06:33 AM
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Still, hers is a much better feminism than any I've experienced... That's not really a compliment, though. Just... You know, sad and true.
/r/MensRights21/09/14 06:08 AM
1

I really don't know if I have any questions, you sort of already answered any I might have had... But I would at least like to say, congrats and you rock. You can literally call yourself a self-made man, and that's awesome. On that note- I've always felt like men seem to need affirmation... Like women seem to me to simply become women naturally... But men need to be told (by someone they trust who they see as a man) or go through a rite of passage of some sort (intentional or otherwise- as long …
/r/MensRights21/09/14 04:25 AM
1

Needs more upvotes.
/r/MensRights20/09/14 04:55 AM
1

Which based on the language is reasonable, but still excludes some acts that need to be included (being forced to perform oral on a female wouldn't count as rape, even though being force to perform it on a male would).
/r/MensRights19/09/14 05:17 PM
3

Fair, but those little blurbs between the headline and text don't always represent the actual article. She, for example, debunks 2% outright, putting it closer to 10% dismissed immediately by law enforcement as unfounded. She then points out that a further 25% are dropped by DAs as unfounded, and another small chunk are acquitted... And or all of which could be false accusations. She seems to think most of that total 35-50% chunk dismissed aren't outright false, but that certainly some are... Po…
/r/MensRights19/09/14 08:50 AM
30

What guy would refuse a sexual advance? What guy with heart failure looming wouldn't refuse a sexual advance? I'm sorry, I don't care what kind of magical kingdom you think your vagina is, it's not fucking worth dying over when I'm waiting on a new heart.
/r/MensRights19/09/14 08:10 AM
1

Never said small oversight. Also, I am inclined to be optimistic, especially re: other people's intentions... Innocent until proven guilty, ignorant until proven malicious.
/r/MensRights19/09/14 08:06 AM
1

While that's a good example, it would hardly make for a good sign. Taking the FBI's and removing "penetrative" would do, I think... But yeah, I'm with you... I'm just a bit of an optimist.
/r/MensRights19/09/14 04:23 AM
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She's in favor of male BC, in favor of paternal surrender, against child support as it currently stands... why i will never be a libertarian I can see why that would bother you. /s Seriously though- what exactly about this article do you have a problem with?
/r/MensRights19/09/14 12:30 AM
1

Couple pointers: He could have walked away, but... No, he couldn't have. Small elevator. He retreated as far as he could go, then she lunged at him before he defended himself. He couldn't retreat any further than he did. Also, if you're unable/unwilling to defend yourself, strength doesn't matter a whit, and neither does size. One of your respondents says she couldn't have done anything to him, unarmed. That's bullshit. The human body is surprisingly fragile at times- it takes very little streng…
/r/MensRights19/09/14 12:03 AM
8

By specifically mentioning penetrative and neglecting to mention MtP... Eugh. I'm torn... This is a critically important and unacceptable oversight, but could be an oversight. They seem to mean to include MtP by way of referencing Herero/male-victim, but fail. Perhaps voice a concern over the phrasing? It's as simple as removing the term penetrate. Leave it as a non consensual sex act (oral, anal, or genital) and be done.
/r/MensRights18/09/14 11:45 PM
1

Agreed on all points... Article points out a very serious problem, but suggests a suction that fails to actually fix anything (which is where the bigotry comes in).
/r/MensRights18/09/14 05:25 PM
5

The biological reasons she hints at don't mean shit when a woman is 7x more likely to use a weapon... Equally meaningless if she drugs him.
/r/MensRights18/09/14 04:13 AM
2

But in her OP, she says "my family wasn't abusive, but my mom hit me a lot"... pointing out that she grew up in an abusive home could be what you describe... Or it could be pointing out a very serious problem in her head where she doesn't recognize domestic violence at all. Pointing out her past of abuse could make her relate to him, empathize, and have a eureka moment... "Oh shit, my mom abused me, and I'm abusing him, and ... oh god." One would hope, anyway.
/r/MensRights16/09/14 08:24 AM
7

This, so much this. If you hit her as often as she hit you, would she consider it abuse? Would her friends? Maybe point this out to them when you break it off. Make it clear that you're leaving her because she's abusive and a batterer. Then, walk away. Oh, and if you can, document the conversation and her response, just to be on the safe side.
/r/MensRights16/09/14 08:17 AM
102

What would be wonderfully refreshing is of we didn't need to have a woman stand up for us to be taken seriously. Even when one does, it's hit and miss, as this exchange shows.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 06:20 PM
14

Tech isn't biased against women, it's biased against small people. It might lead someone rational to wonder if miniaturization of a new technology takes time. It might lead an SJW to assume this is being done to women on purpose or because of subconscious male privilege. See the difference?
/r/MensRights15/09/14 03:07 AM
38

A class on how to be a gentleman, taught by a woman... No bias there. In general, women need to stop trying to teach men how to be men at all. They have no frame of reference- it's absurd and nearly always disastrous. Not saying they get 0 input, but input is different than teaching or commandeering, which is what often happens... Because they think their experiences (good and bad) make them experts. It's like a blind man trying to teach a sighted person how to drive because he was taught how to…
/r/MensRights14/09/14 11:27 PM
1

And "enters the building feloniously" would seem to apply here, since she broke in late at night with the intent to commit a felony (rape)... But glass half full, here. The DA may be shooting lower than he could/arguably should, but he's still aiming higher than most of these stories.
/r/MensRights14/09/14 04:17 AM
8

Honestly, if four 16 year old girls came into your room at midnight, would you honestly think they were here to rape you? It wouldn't even cross my mind and I'd just get pissed off at them and kick them out. If they tried using physical force on me, I'd fight back and kick them off me as hard as I can (yeah I'd hit a girl back if they hit me. So what?) Good on you for the "So what?"... But that doesn't necessarily work for all guys. Most are quite well indoctrinated into not hitting girls ever..…
/r/MensRights11/09/14 11:33 PM
1

I've seen a few threads in this forum on Ray Rice... And that article does seem to fit the pattern of said threads... But I'm not sure what we need to own there that's a problem. Reviewing those threads, it comes back to the idea that there's more than one possible narrative here- other than him being a unilateral serial abuser, especially given that the majority of DV is mutual/reciprocal. Sure, that narrative is possible too... Because DV is so messy, the signs of a woman enduring abuse are ne…
/r/MensRights10/09/14 09:46 PM
0

8 is actually pretty solid, too, though...
/r/MensRights10/09/14 03:20 AM
6

Anti-sexism sign is sexist... Yay! Bad grammar aside: For the record "should always be respected"... Nope. Women are a varied group- I don't always or automatically respect them any more than men. I won't, for example, "always respect" Canada's most recent serial rapist because she's female. So much nope.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 03:00 AM
2

Fair. AVfM is a very mixed bag... And I think they know it. That said, I've also seen the MRA's here critical of them and Elam more than once when we felt he was crossing a line, saying something unfounded, or using tactics that ultimately did more harm than good.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 02:54 AM
1

I was specifically speaking of reddit. Truth is, on the internet at large, policing one's own gets almost impossibly tough. A comment like that on this board though has a way of getting downvoted into the ground PDQ. There may be exceptions even to that, but as a rule, we police our own on this board quite well... Hence why I was recommending lurking here.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 02:52 AM
8

As far as I can tell, much of this mentality/assumption comes about because the media's done a brilliant job confusing us with TRP and vice-versa (and PUA, and a couple other radical anti-feminist groups). My response would be to tell them to lurk here for a couple weeks... They'll see that we police our own (as opposed to letting them steer the ship like the RadFems and feminists), actually care about and discuss legal and societal issues that harm men (as opposed to how fixated TRP and PUA are…
/r/MensRights09/09/14 11:53 AM
0

does it matter?
/r/MensRights09/09/14 03:14 AM
3

should we be surprised? I can fake surprise if you need me to fake surprise. I'm surprised! See. I'm really good at faking surprise. You couldn't even tell, could you.
/r/MensRights09/09/14 03:07 AM
2

Everyone else has mentioned fear of being accused of abuse, but I'll add one more. When I was attending college, I was originally set to go into secondary education... But bailed after my first cycle as a student teacher. The biggest reason was all the BS dealing with the administration, but in the few short weeks I was there, I had 3 girls and 1 guy interrupt class to comment on the size of my package. The (female) teacher I was assisting didn't back me up, didn't comment, didn't think anything…
/r/MensRights08/09/14 10:07 AM
1

Nothing about this nation's economy or politics is even vaguely representative... Never has been and maybe never will be. This argument is meaningless because it applies to everything. Less than .5% of the nation are professional/career politicians, yet nearly 100% of politicians are career politicians. Where are the plumbers and electricians?
/r/MensRights08/09/14 09:59 AM
1

Your concern over the word is completely justified. Triggers are associated with guns and bombs. If you'd like, I can report the OP, you, and myself for saying the t-word without a tri... I mean t-word warning.
/r/MensRights08/09/14 09:55 AM
16

And when she inevitably says no... "You mean to tell me a 14 yo girl doesn't want to have an older man pay special attention to her? That's bs." And "I don't give a shit lol"
/r/MensRights06/09/14 12:50 AM
1

Heh... Fair point. That said, experience is relative and subjective. To a 14 yo kid, she absolutely was an experienced adult.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 07:23 PM
3

I wish I could upvote this more than once. That said, there's more than enough blame to go around- between the girl and the state. The position he's in is unenviable in every way- I can't imagine what I would do in that scenario... there really isn't a great option, only bad and less bad. Suing the state is about the only palatable one, but I'm unsure what grounds he has. It feels like he should have a case, but... the law is rarely that easy.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 05:00 PM
2

Issue is, when you have that kind of power divide- between an experienced adult and an inexperienced child- coercion is assumed, and rightly so. I guarantee he didn't go into this in a state of mind to give informed consent, as an equal partner... he probably went in distracted, horny and intimidated. If he had any second thoughts or doubts, they wouldn't have lasted long at all against her. Oh, and tell me- tell me he even considered for a moment the consequences and consented to them... and th…
/r/MensRights05/09/14 04:52 PM
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Except they never will, for 2 reasons: It would cost them money. And it would cost them money. They'd have to pay to pursue the case on their own (they'd be forced to if he pressed charges, but if he doesn't... why waste time and money on it? "No victim, no crime.")... On top of which, they'd suddenly be faced with footing the entire cost of child support themselves if they won.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 05:38 AM
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Seen several articles on this so far... Normally over posting annoys me, but I'm happy to see this getting national coverage from multiple sources... even if the content is nearly identical, it's nice to see it not getting swept under the rug. And, I gotta say, this is the best of them so far, if only because they had the balls to actually call it what it was- rape- in the headline no less. Bravo.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 12:41 AM
29

Does... Does she think men have complete conscious control of our erections? Seriously? I mean, that seems to be the entire underpinning of her viewpoint. Needing an erection doesn't make it more "complicated" for a woman to rape a man. And for fuck's sake- if that isn't victim blaming, I don't know what is.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 03:56 PM
1

Likely.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 10:35 PM
1

Bad privacy management; google-fu + cross posting (ie, if I post something here and on Facebook-public or a blog with my name/face with identical phrasing and such); dumb luck.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 12:15 PM
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I'd prefer to hear that directly from him... But assuming for a moment it's accurate (I have no particular reason to doubt it), there's still the matter of appropriate action. For making a rape threat online, there should of course be some punishment... But the same can be said for death threats, etc... each and every RadFem, Troll, and half of 4chan on a good day would be due. But when you doxx someone, it's entirely out of your hands... And into the hands of each and every person who could pos…
/r/MensRights27/08/14 12:08 PM
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I'm actually quite proud of the comments... There are whole fields of deleted ones in there, and periodic trollinists (femtrolls?)... But a lot of the surviving comments are still along the lines of "to answer your question, b/c people are awful sometimes. You can't solve the problem of evil, not completely, and calling this victim blaming is asinine and counter-productive." My favorite is the one that points out how hard it is to frame rape as a societal problem when society unanimously conside…
/r/MensRights27/08/14 11:46 AM
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"No shit, Sherlock." "Then keep digging, Watson."
/r/MensRights27/08/14 02:38 AM
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Granted. And you have no need to convince me. Like I said- I've been convinced, a long time ago, by the logic of the argument. I don't feel the passion of the argument on a personal level... But I don't need to. Somehow though, offering my support to your cause gets me downvoted by it... Every. Time.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 12:42 AM
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But, of course, women who (having been told they're fat) respond by hitting their husband are just defending themselves. /s
/r/MensRights26/08/14 08:35 PM
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It's almost as if people would, in general, benefit from some sort of legal or moral clause, protecting them... "innocent until proven guilty" or something. Can we work on this guys?
/r/MensRights26/08/14 08:30 PM
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This, yes... But I meant that I now not only have statistical proof that the female wage gap is primarily due to men working harder, longer hours while women favor part-time work... But that among part time workers, men earn less than women. Not only undermining the wage gap argument, but actually reversing it. Awesome.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 03:32 AM
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I don't think the guy is defending circumcision (cause, you know, he actually said as much)... Merely trying to explain why, perhaps, some men wouldn't understand the issue. For example, I was circumcised, so when you say that I'm missing something, I look down and think "um... No. Not that I know of." You say I've been scarred by it and I think "no, not really. In fact, I never once thought about it until you said something, and I still personally feel kind of meh about it." It's like telling s…
/r/MensRights25/08/14 09:21 PM
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I like the reverse gender wage gap. Neat.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 09:09 PM
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Fair on the age- somehow I missed that. That changes things a lot, but not entirely given that similar cases of 17yo girls were ruled much more harshly where a teacher was concerned. As for the other- you're right, and fair point, but the article fails to specify at all. Special needs is limited to mental, learning, or social disability of some sort, so I still think there's something to my point here. Thanks on both counts though. I'd rather have an authentic point of minor contention than an u…
/r/MensRights23/08/14 06:25 PM
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It's a men's rights issue because of the sentencing disparity, which points to inequality. The judge said it would be hard to prosecute because the boys admitted it was consensual... But they were not only under the age of consent, they were fricking mentally disabled... Which tells me that a judge thinks that mentally disabled 14yo males are capable of consent that a 14yo mentally capable girl somehow isn't. That's a men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 09:10 AM
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Exactly this.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 09:03 AM
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